📚┃off-topic

[simple needle]

[sand wigeon]

And how is Discord strange?

[simple needle]

all i know is New Orleans Saints

[sand wigeon]

There’s uhhh

Damn. I genuinely can’t think of a single named football team.

[clear zephyr]

Well, we're strangers. Completely. And I can sit on my couch and discuss how strange global communication is by typing into my phone. I know we are all used to it, but objectively it's basically magic.

[sand wigeon]

I don’t think there’s anything objective about that.

[clear zephyr]

Look at it metatextually for a second. We are having an actual discourse. Ideas. Opinions. Reactions and emotions. All immediate. All effortless. It's nuts, man. When you look at all of human history this would be unthinkable up until very very recently. It's neat. And crazy.

[sand wigeon]

Oh, I do agree that outside of current knowledge it could nearly be considered magic; I don’t believe that the concept as-its-own is objectively seen that way, especially to people who do practice traditional magics for religious purposes.

That’s my main point of contention

[clear zephyr]

Completely fair and valid.

[sand wigeon]

[clear zephyr]

. . . You have sent me a bee.

Cool.

[simple needle]

[clear zephyr]

A human bee? How is this not magic.

[simple needle]

everything is magic if you don't think about it

[clear zephyr]

That's kinda lovely.

[simple needle]

fav NFL team ?

[clear zephyr]

Ravens.

[simple needle]

thats a rare one

True Raven fan

[sand wigeon]

Where ignorance is bliss, ‘tis folly to be wise :D

I don’t really concern myself with the inner workings of my phone, for example, just ‘cause it’s not for me

[clear zephyr]

Yeah, it gets contentious. I'm friends with Eagles fans.

[simple needle]

Raven would be my second favourite team

[sand wigeon]

I do however think that, even if we brought a phone back to feudalism times, they wouldn’t believe it to be magic or anything

[clear zephyr]

There are scientific practices that I don't wikidive simply to remain impressed.

[sand wigeon]

Humans were just as smart then, as now. I think they’d get it was a creation other humans made

[simple needle]

depends on the person you talk to

[clear zephyr]

Who are your guys?

[sand wigeon]

That’s always fair

[simple needle]

New Orlean Saints

but im not even american

[clear zephyr]

Aliens, man. Those cats would think aliens or maybe demons, depending on which medieval folks you're talking to.

[sand wigeon]

I don’t believe so

[clear zephyr]

Saints are also rare.

[sand wigeon]

Is there a football team named the Isopods? They’d be my fave

[simple needle]

people used to call people with dissociative identity disorder being possessed by demons or scientist witches

[sand wigeon]

I’m aware

[clear zephyr]

Baseball team named the Isotopes. Close as you'll get, I think.

[sand wigeon]

Damn

My funny little prehistoric buddies tho

[simple needle]

I remember there were isopod team mascot

[sand wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/isopod-repost-discord-teez-isopods-gif-18078935

[simple needle]

i forgot what sport it was for

[clear zephyr]

Huh. I gotta figure this out.

[sand wigeon]

Isopods are great. I love that if you hold them up, they just squirm about

[clear zephyr]

At one point they were trying to name a hockey team the Rain City B*tch Pigeons.

[clear zephyr]

Where I grew up they call them Pill Bugs. Cool little dudes. Always made me think of Mario.

[sand wigeon]

Nono, pill bugs are one type of isopod

I’m talking primarily about the BIG guys

[clear zephyr]

This is concerning.

[simple needle]

ahh i cant post image

[sand wigeon]

https://www.aquariumofpacific.org/images/olc/Bathynomus_giganteus2.jpg

[clear zephyr]

Already googling, gang. It's a horror show over here.

[simple needle]

https://www.deviantart.com/gabrielsilveria/art/Parasite-Mascot-Costume-698030856

[sand wigeon]

They’re about the size of a cat

They’re adorable

They just wiggle about if you pick them up, and if they’re on the ground, they kinda just chill and scuttle about

[clear zephyr]

Brother, cats are adorable. I'm good with them. But I don't hate these guys. Would be pretty scared if, like, 12 showed up at once and I wasn't expecting them. But I'm sure we would be buds. I'd give them some of whatever they eat and we'd be cool.

[sand wigeon]

Hell yeah

[clear zephyr]

It's not a bad Mascot, really. Team would need a good defense every year to justify it.

[sand wigeon]

I’m just saying, if three of these literal bugs showed up at my doorstep making Eldritch sounds not dissimilar to “KEHSWECHT” I would hand over my soul instantly and be happy with my choice

[clear zephyr]

Respect.

Isspod patron. Could do worse.

[simple needle]

why do eldritch horrors always takes inspiration from the sea

[clear zephyr]

Lovecraft really cornered that market, huh?

And the deep sea is terrifying.

[sand wigeon]

So do you want an extensive history lesson or the tl;dr

Because the tl;dr is that there are two things largely outside of modern human understanding: space, which we observe and know a decent amount about (in theory), and the sea, which we know next to nothing about

And the absence of knowing is the scariest thing to humans

An impressionist view of the unknown has and will always amaze, yet shock humans to their core

[clear zephyr]

Humans fear loss and the unknown profoundly.

[sand wigeon]

We see this in writings of genres ranging from fantasy, to sci-fi, to horror, mystery- anything that allows the imagination to run wild

Which is why Eldritch horror, as popularized by H.P Lovecraft (though as we define the genre today, existed far before in H.P Lovecrafts own inspirations) largely takes inspiration from primarily the sea but also the sky

Fore these are what we cannot reach, and what we cannot reach scares us

[clear zephyr]

I think we did some good work here tonight, gang. Be well. Play games. Dig bugs. Watch football. Goodnight.

[sand wigeon]

Don’t let the pill bugs bite

[sand wigeon]

The reasons behind the sea becoming a primary benefactor to the genre of Eldritch horror typically takes roots in a LOT of different cultures. Almost all of them had sone equivalent of a wives-tale-of-the-sea, sailors leaving and never returning home, the phenomenon of ghost ships, or great monsters from the deep said to sink unruly ships; these all existed before and at the same times that we came to understand the sky and stars. Humans had been intimately familiar with the night-time stars for so many years across our history, both practically and spiritually, that they didn’t always terrify. But the sea- that is something we could not and still do not easily observe, so it terrifies to this day.

[junior oyster]

If it ain't the sea then it's bugss lol

Oh wait you are on about eldtr horrors

[sand wigeon]

[junior oyster]

Lol Momument unique is the grim dawn equivalent of dual wielding shields

[oak bison]

Any electricians here?? I have a question regarding a power outlet change! (Schneider outlet EU) if anyone know please holla and ill explain!!!

[ebon meadow]

Hit me up not actual electrician but I sell them the goodies xd

[ocean rivet]

Not exactly 1:1 of what I've bought but it looks quite similar like this
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcReQ4z8OP5WdGvOt9UziHyrblTVn3q44nn53w&s

[thin wing]

hello

[hexed stream]

holle

[fresh verge]

I had to replay elden ring from the start because my steam cloud save got corrupted somehow and I'm not even at the dlc yet 😭 everything will be nerfed into the ground by the time i get to it

[upper gyro]

Made on bytebeats in NMS if this is your thing.
https://youtu.be/0MLakfv4RAA?si=n89x6iDEO2Z9EcZa

[hasty grail]

last epoch or torchlight infinite - which season to jump into

[sand wigeon]

Minecraft Dungeons

[hexed stream]

39h in and my 1st playthru just managed to kill rennala yesterday

[hexed stream]

answer is obvious, stay away from p2w game, no matter how little the p2w is

[hasty grail]

I did play the last season and it was pretty enjoyable. Lotta good qol mechanics and end game. The mechanics that are p2w are pretty obvious and easy to avoid.

I'd say the only con about the game is that there is non existent build guides or damage calcs

[hexed stream]

Can't wait till half a day later

[hardy crane]

@placid yarrow https://biteswithbri.com/bacon-and-cheese-muffins/

so good

lol

[placid yarrow]

Wth

Those look amazing

[hardy crane]

they are

[placid yarrow]

How is this not a thing here

[hardy crane]

I make a diff version, usually included a lil jalapeno too

and server it like you would a roll

with soup

[placid yarrow]

I gotta try making some sometime

[hardy crane]

or stew etc

om nom nom

ya you should - they're delicious

[placid yarrow]

That sounds lit

[hardy crane]

Muffins can be sweet... or salty

ask me after tomorrow's launch

lol

[placid yarrow]

Haha, I might try making some while I'm at my parents

[hardy crane]

nice 🙂

just saw my parents recently

took our grandsons over to see them

[placid yarrow]

Nice yeah my brother came over to my place on Friday and we're going back to my parents together today

[hardy crane]

my Dad and Mom

[placid yarrow]

Hell yeah, it's nice to spend time with family, I only go there twice a year right now so I always look forward to it

[hardy crane]

we live 20min away

from both my daughter and her family and my parents (and my inlaws)

lol

[placid yarrow]

That's good yeah I'm 5 hours away by car but I usually take a train

[hardy crane]

nice

[placid yarrow]

I almost ended up living wayyy further away to the point where I'd have to take a plane lol

[hardy crane]

ya we left my home town like 6yrs ago

but just moved back last year right before I started at EHG

[placid yarrow]

That's dope, I moved to Gothenburg from Stockholm (Sweden) and tbh I enjoy it more here so I might stay here if I can

[hardy crane]

wanna know something funny?

my Dad grew up in a town called Gothenburg

in Nebraska

lol

[placid yarrow]

Lol what

Haha

[hardy crane]

(my Dad's side traces back to dutch immigrants)

I assume they had a hand in naming the town

[placid yarrow]

It's called Göteborg in Swedish but yeah Gothenburg in English that's funny

[hardy crane]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothenburg,_Nebraska

Gothenburg, Nebraska is named after Gothenburg, Sweden, and is noted for its large number of residents of Swedish descent. Gothenburg, Nebraska, and Gothenburg (Swedish: Göteborg), Sweden, are believed to be the only two cities named Gothenburg in the world.[3]

hahaha

wow

TIL

the town is super small

[placid yarrow]

Ohhhh

[hardy crane]

my Dad's HS class was like 8 people

[placid yarrow]

So it's named after the Swedish one that's crazy lol

[hardy crane]

ya lol

wild

[placid yarrow]

But yeah living in a big city like Stockholm isn't as nice imo, even though Gothenburg is the second largest city in Sweden i feel like it's basically perfect for me tbh

Super calm in comparison

Not sure how much I'd like living In a super rural or small town but I think I'd enjoy it

[hardy crane]

I always wanted to visit northern europe one day

[placid yarrow]

I'd just miss having good internet lul

[hardy crane]

esp denmark

I want to see LEGO HQ

[placid yarrow]

Yeah that'd be sick, I've never been to Denmark myself

The worlds largest Ikea is by where my parents live though lol

Maybe not as childhood fantasy but pretty cool nontheless

[junior oyster]

Diablo 3. No contest.

[fresh verge]

i'm like 40 hours in and even though i've played before i keep getting sidetracked invading and doing things i don't actually need to, tragic. whats your build?

I played at 1.0 the first time, it's like a different game now. Occult scaling works, you get npc locations on the map, the questlines are finished and unbugged

[faint mauve]

having lived in norway its funny when norwegians drive to the swedish border for cheaper booze, while the swedish would do the same for denmark, and the danish to the nearest german border

i used to travel to a small swedish village called Tyrolen for a music festival each year first time the female taxi driver blew on a breathalyzer, some whack stuff in the swedish country

im australian so its all kinda interesting to me haha

[brittle mesa]

ahahah same happens with finnish people going to estonia

[desert jasper]

Yup
And then our ministers wanted a study (totally not laundering money) to why people do that

[junior oyster]

Is LE 1.1 patch out?

[desert jasper]

Not yet.
they've a timer on their site

[ember lake]

https://lastepoch.com/ < --- Launch time!

[junior oyster]

Hmm I'll be at gym around launch time

My best bet is probably to play on the weekend

[magic tree]

anybody looking to get rid of a used video card at a reasonable price? preferably RTX 30xx series? My GTX 1070 has approached obsolescence 😔

[alpine hound]

Hello, did they say if the patch will be released for download before lauch time?

[desert jasper]

It'll be ready for downloading when the maintenance is over.
so no predownloading

[timber dock]

<@&1161418687471956101> #💬┃general message

[hexed stream]

loading act 1 for 10min already lol

[quiet field]

or not

[hexed stream]

at this rate I'm not sure if I manage to log in first, or I go watch football match spain vs france first

[hasty grail]

Lol i just finished getting renown in D4 and topped out at pit 80. D4 is moving on the right direction.

Now it's either LE or TLI for me.

[ashen shale]

Hey can i get any role for being the only one guy in this game who took all perfect character names and no one can do it

[gray venture]

who up yorking they ting

[desert jasper]

Not sure what you mean

[small spindle]

https://imgur.com/8fNribs

[ember lake]

I shouldn't laugh....I shouldn't laugh 😂

[junior oyster]

Hawktuah?

[vagrant topaz]

https://youtu.be/C7tydu_erZo?si=qJKoYiAQTmeZwa3x&t=4

[junior oyster]

Forgotten Knight looks like she is cosplaying an evil power ranger 😂

[narrow token]

A psycho ranger?

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-psycho-rangers-nejiranger-team-squad-gif-15743749

[hexed stream]

lol england, 2nd time in final

[hardy crane]

@waxen nova

[atomic plover]

was that what helped get you the gig at Curse, @hardy crane?

still remember the interview i had there, i had thought it went well, but was fresh out of uni/just got certs, and nervous as f*** haha (may it RIP)

[hardy crane]

Curse and Blizzard and EHG

Haha

[atomic plover]

💪 😄

[atomic plover]

i do miss their mod manager though, is it weird Curse sorta reminds me of Xfire and it's eventual downfall?

suppose that's that nature of the dev/tech world tho'

[placid yarrow]

!support

[wide hound]

hi all

[ember lake]

Does this mean I can bug you for Minecraft modding stuff? xD

[wide hound]

[eternal void]

how to open the forgotten knights faction panel?

[soft fulcrum]

It is a tab in the normal faction interface.

[hexed stream]

had to google for this haha

[jade ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/heyyyy-weird-wacky-gif-13514978

[cyan carbon]

Anyone here good with PC building? Building out parts for a new pc and I'd like a 2nd or 3rd set of eyes

[pallid sentinel]

England is Going Home!

[junior oyster]

Lol

[ebon meadow]

i m half Brit but i live in spain , another cup for my boomer gen to take home after the world one xdd

[pallid sentinel]

so it is Party now 😄

[hexed stream]

too bad without the ball

I feel bad for them about the 3 consecutive headers in the last few minutes, from the corner kick

but spain totally deserves it, personally I got the feeling spain would be the one, after the very first match against croatia, their playstyle this time truly mesmerizes me

now is copa america time =))

[tame dome]

@stable crane Really? Anything in particualar about Mint? Just curious.

[stable crane]

oh just like the repos are not great and i hate cinnamon but i was too lazy to switch to anything i could configure how i like and just like really bad performance

building packages yourself is kind of a nightmare because there is always some random new version of a dependency package that its very hard to find on mint and i use my computer for that stuff for work so it was frustrating for me, but if you just use it as like a browsing desktop and you like cinnamon, it seems fine enough

[tame dome]

I've been using the tkg kernal which is supposed to help a bit with game performance at the cost of heat, though honestly it's a miracle I was able to get the kernal compiled and working given my limited dabbling with such things, lol.

Yeah, dependancies have been the occassional pain point.

[stable crane]

i was just using a vanilla mint iso so there was probably something i could have done for better performance if i really got into it

but for me it just became clear it would be easier to just move to fedora, especially because i wanted to switch from x11 to wayland which is nice

[tame dome]

I've read mixed things about wayland every time I've considering switching to a disto that uses it so far as gaming is concerned.

Never tried fedora. May load it up in a VM sometime.

[stable crane]

ive been using gamescope and it works really well

also i installed from the everything iso and did not install anything except KDE itself and firefox when i installed fedora so as little bloat as possible would be on here

and turning on game mode in hyprland turning off all animations and stuff seems to do the trick

i really want to replace my nvidia gpu with an AMD one soon now that i have left windows entirely since i stopped needing it for work a couple months ago

[tame dome]

Nice. Think I'm using gamescope with lutris? Lutris was broken for me for the longest time until I realized mints repository had an outdated version with an outstanding bug that prevented games from launching. Updated from their github and it's been smooth sailing ever since.

[chilly marsh]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6OyKBwLzq4h15XmxeWf5n4?si=cHEzSRV8SE-OMvo-Sm4W8w&context=spotify%3Asearch%3Acute%2Bei

[junior oyster]

Damn was hoping Grim Dawn xpac would release this year but they releasing it next year. But the new altar and ascendant mode seems cool along with all the other changes that are coming so I don't have much room to complain lol.

[flat quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0xh4qopQpk

[desert jasper]

oh they pushed it for next year?
I thought it's coming out this summer

[hexed stream]

I'm waiting for GD2, on new engine

[junior oyster]

You probably gunna wait another 5 years then lol

[hexed stream]

🥲

lucky TQ2 is out next year or next next

[desert jasper]

Since Wick asked for food pics
here's a cake I baked for a friend's birthday
it's got some chocolate, orange juice & orange peel in it

[south gust]

I made a Lychee cake last week and it was wonderful

[desert jasper]

I'd bake more often
But since I live alone it's kinda... "Do I really want to eat all of this by myself?"
And usually the answer is no

[south gust]

Make baked goods into cupcake sizes and freeze the extra.

[desert jasper]

Sadly my freezer is super small
And is usually full of meat that was on sale + frozen veggies

Just a small freezer box inside an already small fridge

Oh and this apple pie I baked for the family

[rich badger]

My GF never had Lychee cake and we bought Lychees recently (like 3 days ago). Would you happen to have a recipe? ❤️

[junior oyster]

No mans sky gunna cook my pc... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsX2hK6yBPU

[south gust]

I do. Basically just make a white cake batter with slightly less sugar and fold in about 1 cup of lychee puree. Bake as normal.

[mint scroll]

I am bootycheeks at baking, but I can cook a lot of ancient dishes. Medieval, roman and slavic.

[rich badger]

❤️ Is that an imperial cup or US cup? I use metric measurements here, I have no problem converting, but need to know which one it is (About 20% difference between the two apparently)

[mint scroll]

Which, I know, it's pretty contradictory for a Slav to be bad at baking. 😂

[south gust]

US. So about 340g.
Also worth noting, lychee are SUPER mild in flavor so the cake will be subtle.

[south gust]

Ok I gotta know. What's your #1 dish from each of those?

[rich badger]

Thank you very much. And that's okay! We're food enthusiasts (basically home cooks constantly experimenting both savory and sweets), and our palettes are quite good so 💞 gonna bake this for her soon

I'll get back to you on how the experience was 😁

[mint scroll]

Honey dates and roman cheesecake tbch

[south gust]

I'm sorry. ROMAN Cheesecake? You had my interest. Now you have my attention

[mint scroll]

Yep, a recipe from ~160BC.

[rich badger]

Like a Savillum, but without leaves? 🤔 looks a bit strong in color too, so maybe not then?

[mint scroll]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1OrLAW1hv38tKRklh6vJaESjZwyuyt-qNmwN8GPUhz9E/mobilebasic

By a friend of mine, a fellow ARPG diehard.
it's the whole recipe

[rich badger]

hah indeed a Savillum 😋

[mint scroll]

Sure is!

[south gust]

Oh I am so stealing this

[mint scroll]

Please do, it's delicious. It's definitely not as sweet as modern cheesecake, but it's fantastic.

and then @south gust my favourite Slavic dish is probably Marillenknödel.
It's a recipe I learned from my grandmother, a usually fruit-based dumpling dusted in powdered sugar. Apricots are my favourite.

[desert jasper]

Think my favorite slavic dish is just stroganoff
with champignons in it
leave the pickles. I love pickles but not in stroganoff

Used to watch a lot of Life of Boris on youtube and he had some very nice recipes
But been watching less youtube

[mint scroll]

Stroganoff is great, by far the most well-known worlwide one!

[south gust]

I've never had stroganoff with pickles in it. I never would have considered adding them

[mint scroll]

Which other than the few that are known around the world, a lot of Slavic cuisine is actually pretty... uh, bland. 😂

[desert jasper]

We used to have it in school relatively often
Could've been the poor quality meat, the pickles, poor spices.
Then didn't eat stroganoff for 20 years because of that.
Randomly made it one day at home and was surprised that it actually tastes great when you done properly

Surprisingly many foods like that in the school days tbh 🤔
Then again, doesn't really surprise me
when you make food for like a thousand kids you got to consider allergies and so on
like my mother had told the school we aren't allowed to eat foods with blood in it
I wouldn't have minded but we got much better quality stuff when there were stuff that had blood in them

[south gust]

I get the sense school food being at the bottom of the "I want this" list is a problem all over the place. In the US we got excited for pizza day. Not because it was good, but because it sat next to a crate of flavors one time. 😆

[junior oyster]

I can't wait. These changes are insane
https://www.nomanssky.com/worlds-part-i-update/

My only worry is will my pc be able to handle it all lol

[rich badger]

I mean it does say that it moves a lot of the heavy lifting from CPU to GPU, so if you had a weak CPU but a strong GPU you should see a performance improvement
if it's the other way around... lossless scaling may be an option

[junior oyster]

We shall see

[fresh verge]

@thorny oriole gl to you too, didn't want to clutter up the showcase anymore

[thorny oriole]

👍

[hexed stream]

lucky my favorite genres are arpg and turn based strategy, both are more cpu heavy than gpu heavy

[drifting dune]

try wakfu or dofus

[hexed stream]

???

[drifting dune]

mmorpg turn based

[hexed stream]

Don't play mmorpg

[junior oyster]

Elden ring is technically an arpg

[hexed stream]

was meant to say diablo like, but I have elden ring too, barely finish act 2 before LE season started

[junior oyster]

Got to level 100 in offline mode and quit

[hexed stream]

offline this season?

that's insane speed

[thin wing]

Hi

[junior oyster]

Cheat engine exists

[hexed stream]

no wonder you quit lol

[junior oyster]

I love the devs and all but I can't lie game is kinda boring. I don't even think about playing online.

[hexed stream]

maybe you've lost interest in this genre

for seasonal games like this or poe or d4, when you don't play online contents for a few season, or even 1, it's already a different game

[junior oyster]

That might be true. D4 sucks, waiting on PoE2 and same with Grim dawn expansion. Been mainly playing Slay the Spire.

[hexed stream]

I mean, if you find this boring, poe2 will be boring too, all are in the same camp with the same formula

[junior oyster]

If I play Grim Dawn I can complete the game without getting bored

Same with PoE when I play a league

[hexed stream]

complete campaign you mean?

[junior oyster]

And endgame

[hexed stream]

what's boring about LE then? coz I don't see much different running a monolith vs a poe map
maybe monster density is a bit worse in LE

[junior oyster]

Much as I hate to admit it I prefer the immediate trade in PoE for one

[hexed stream]

poe trade is better for sure, although I play cof in LE so I don't really care about the terrible trade experience in LE

[junior oyster]

Pretty much everything is tradeable from the get go. So in LE I'm kinda forced to play the ssf mode.
I also don't like the target farming in this game. Sure you can target farm monolith bosses and I like that but what I don't like is target "farming" unique items (specific uniques like amulets) when there are sooo many and the chance to get what you want is so damn low. Then not only that but you want to make sure you get the legendary tiers (w/e it's called) which requires a decent amount of corruption for better items iirc. I much prefer grim dawns version of item farming where you target specific mob types for their items.
I also dislike the skill system. You respec? Great now farm those last 10 points again (sure it can be faster at higher levels and corruption) but why though?
And speaking of skills everytime you die as a summoner your minions are unsummoned. Like what the heck? At least in PoE certain perm minions persist even after you die like zombos, spectres and AG. The only time they are unsummoned is if they themselves die or you take the gem off.

[hexed stream]

1. I assume you hate any form of ssf
2. Objectively, target farming in LE is infinitely better than poe, and even in GD, good luck with getting the MI with correct prefix and suffix, no better than finding the correct unique here. You have ways better chance to have all correct affixes in LE than in any arpg out there including GD due to its superior crafting system
3. I have no idea what is that legendary tier thing you're talking about. Legendary potential? Most arpg streamers agree it's the best addition ever to be added into arpg crafting system. And I agree with them
4. I also don't like the fact that you lose 10 points after respec, but not a deal breaker
5. That's really some odd comparison. Spectres and AG in poe requires expensive stuffs or hard to find corpses to summon, so of course they have to persist, otherwise people will quit poe. LE pets cost what? Mana. And it's the same situation for GD, all pets are gone when you die

[junior oyster]

1. Up for debate
2. At least the you know the specific enemy (or more) in GD and they drop what you want. Good luck getting the unique you want from the monolith nodes that are pretty damn rare.
3. Yes legendary potential and I do love it. But I hate that you have to not only drop the unique you want (which could be very rare) and then also hope that it comes with legendary potential (and at least 2 or 3 LP)
4. It doesn't need to exist
5. In grim dawn nothing costs nearly as much as a golem, 5 skeles, 5 skele mages and 2 perm wraiths. If all your minions die for some reason you better have good mana regen to resummon them all because for some reason they copied D3 with no mana pots.

[hexed stream]

2. That's why prophecy exist. But since you only play offline you probably don't know about that system. And again, in GD you can only farm MI, when most of the time you need MI with at least 1 correct affix, only the MI alone sucks
3. It adds depth to itemization, and depth can't be shallow. No build requires you to have legendary item. You want the best items in game and you want no effort for it, doesn't sound right to me
4. Pre-50, GD pets costs like 1/4 of your mana bar, no difference. I play maya pet build, I know

And comparing MI with unique items in LE is comparing orange to apple
Why don't you compare unique items in LE with legendary items in GD which are both equally random to get?

[junior oyster]

I'm aware of prophecies. Again another thing that is hard to afford because levelling the faction is so slow and boring. And the "money" you get feels so slow lol
There are also unique MI in Grim Dawn too.

[hexed stream]

I think you're only aware of 1.0 prophecy, disregarding the rework they did to 1.1

[junior oyster]

Because that is what the target farm is in LE. If it was completely random I wouldn't care lol.

Holy moly first time I got a StS crash

[hexed stream]

but it isn't, you can target farm the item slot, not the item itself
in GD if you only want to farm helm in the hope of getting that set helm, what do you do? pray?

people have massive misunderstanding about target farm in LE, you target farm the item slot, not a specific item

in GD how do you target farm a set? again, probably praying hard to jesus

[junior oyster]

Maybe you target farm the item slot but I would much rather target farm the specific item. It's much more annoying in this game as you get like one item and with propechy maybe a couple more that give you a slight advantage

[hexed stream]

where on earth is there a game allowing you to farm specific items beside boss specific? literally no game, not GD, not poe

you're conveniently ignoring the fact that in GD, 95% itemization are legendary items, only the rare 5% are MI

[junior oyster]

Ok but I can enjoy target farming an item in grim dawn. An MI is easier to target farm than LEs "specific" item slot per monolith

[hexed stream]

and out of that 95%, another 95% is totally randomized drop with no way to narrow them down

[hexed stream]

that's wrong, by the time you get MI with 1 correct prefix, I probably craft 10 items with all 4 correct affixes for the same slot already

GD itemization is not about MI, it's about 95% legendary items and only 5% MI

please don't conveniently pretend that GD is all about MI and then comparing the ease of farming MI vs farming unique items in LE

MI should be in the same camp of boss specific item, not the generic pool of items

you still don't tell me, how do you target farm a legendary item in GD, if it's not a boss specific item, and how is it more convenient than LE to farm such item

[junior oyster]

Ok? Crafting is the one good thing about the game. I'm not interested in discussions about rares. I'm comparing actual wearable items that are needed in both games and in grim dawn these items are easier to farm.

[hexed stream]

again, how are legendary sets in GD easier to farm than LE unique?
MI are only 5% of the itemization, 95% are still legendary items

funny enough you only talk about the ease of farming that 5%, while ignoring the 95% which is even harder to farm than LE

[junior oyster]

I'm saying MIs are easier to farm. I've completed builds in grim dawn that only get better when the legendary items are acquired. Sure they are random but builds are still pretty viable unless you are absolutely challenging yourself.
Also you can transmutate legendary set items in grim dawn to other parts so if you got a few spare you can easily do that

[hexed stream]

you're saying MIs are easier to farm, then I can also say all slots in LE are easier to craft

if you just talk about the level of barely playable and can finish the campaign, then LE has it much easier than anything GD has to offer

[junior oyster]

As if lol. I've only ever died to Kreig in normal mode in grim dawn. But Lagon? He slaps hard.

[hexed stream]

like I said, while you have 1 MI with maybe 1 correct affix, I already have full set of crafted items, at least 3/4 correct affixes, for the same period already

lagon is a joke, and I say that by playing default storm totem, a build that before this season could't even do t2 julra
his mechanics are so easy to spot and dodge, easier than any elden ring boss fight

[junior oyster]

Yea ofc he is because it's possible to cheese him

[hexed stream]

objectively LE still has the best target farming system out there no competition is even close, sure MI part which is 5% of GD itemization may have it easier, but as a whole itemization, GD is just like the average arpg out there, still pray hard to get the item you want

[junior oyster]

I genuinely don't understand why you are going after me like this lol. I'll end it right here and now. You may be objectively right but that doesn't change what I think.

[hexed stream]

I don't try to change what you think, just pointing it out that target farming in LE is far superior than anything else, including GD

you don't like LE that's fine, zizaran also hates GD and I'm fine with that too

the only thing I'm going after you is that some of the aspects you don't like about LE, your favorite games do it worse

[junior oyster]

Thing is you mention all that but I don't feel that way when I play my favourite games

[rich badger]

I think both LE and GD are fantastic games. I am always looking forward to GD expansions (and omg Ascended mode is going to be so much fun) as well as LE cycles. To me, there hasn't been a better time to play ARPGs if you're an ARPG fan.

[hexed stream]

again, you fail to explain to me how you feel it easier to farm a certain legendary set in GD than a unique item in LE, or a ring, amulet, or a 1h sword

don't just talk about MI, most builds in GD are not about the MI

it's like you're telling me "look I hate that farming this item in LE will cost 10 days, then you're on about how happy you are to farm that legendary weapon in 1 month"

[junior oyster]

It "feels" worse to me in LE. Damn bruh.

[rich badger]

I just spam SR 75 or SR 80 if I want a specific legendary. Yeah, no target farm of course, but it really rains loot out of those chests.

[hexed stream]

so, farming a certain item in average 1 day feels worse than in 1 month? interesting take

[junior oyster]

It took me farming monoliths more than a month to not drop a specific unique so my answer is yes freaking yes. Last league. Raven's gloves or w/e it's called. And I didn't bloody drop it.

[hexed stream]

mind telling me what unique item is that?>

[junior oyster]

I think ravens rise?

[hexed stream]

afaik, that item is not a build enabling item for any build in LE

most people playing pet builds will go with julra gloves instead

[junior oyster]

It was for the build I had last season. Or supposedly it was. Regardless it took forever for it to not drop :)

[hexed stream]

because raven's rise is categorized as very rare drop
GD doesn't have this concept of generic legendary item drop rate
besides boss drop, every generic legendary items seem to have the same drop rate in GD

while LE, is just like poe or the ancestor of this genre, d2, divides unique items into rarity tier

I mean, how often do you drop apothecary div card in poe? that's how rare raven's rise is

it's not that any unique item in LE is hard to find, it's the very rare unique that are hard to find, in this case raven's rise

common and uncommon unique usually drop like rain, even rare unique are not that rare, probably once per hour

anyway, anyone watching the spiritborn class reveal?

[junior oyster]

Nope. I forgot about that.

[hexed stream]

although it happens in less than 1h, I'll probably read the summary tomorrow

just another witch doctor shenanigan I guess

[exotic wave]

spiritborn, oh d4, people still play that? Thought it got mostly abandoned

[hexed stream]

it's a seasonal game, most people will abandon season after 2 weeks, it't normal

and when new season comes, millions will play again, and leave after 2 weeks

in fact, you can apply that same question to poe and yes, most people have abandoned it by now

[maiden widget]

anything is abandoned if my twitchers hate it

[sand wigeon]

D4 has been genuinely fantastic, lotsa fun to be had

[junior oyster]

Lol spiritborn is monk from D3

[jade jackal]

Monk x WD

[junior oyster]

Yea

And a bit of druid mixed in

D4: RoS seems interesting

[jade jackal]

You mean VoH

[chrome grove]

that poe reveal was insane

[junior oyster]

Poe2?

[chrome grove]

nope. new league for poe1. Its insane. They changed and added so much its almost like a new game

[junior oyster]

Yea saw the trailer. I don't care about the league mech but the changes are a welcomed sight.

[jade jackal]

GGG is putting a very rare amount of effort into a game when a sequel is announced. This is not a regular thing to do in this industry

They seem fully commited to the idea of giving 100% to both games at the same time.

[junior oyster]

Wonder how long that lasts but I hope it does so it benefits anyone who chooses either as their main game.

[chrome grove]

I have this lurking suspicion the reason is that they are doing it to offset the gameplay of poe2. They have said POE2 endgame can be fast and juicy but i think they are preparing poe1 as a fallback for those that dont find the endgame of poe2 fast enough

[rugged island]

wouldnt say rare, it's just smart. keep poe growing because all the poe players will become poe2 players. if you have the manpower why not

[chrome grove]

And if they manage to release leagues with decent time overlap people like me will play both and thus spend more money

[stark pond]

damn the new poe league is looking good

[hexed stream]

wtf really

[hexed stream]

every game like this started out as an old car, but will quickly turn into tesla model S in a few seasons
game speed at launch really doesn't say much about the future

[hexed stream]

hmm, I watched the trailer, has nothing to do with d3 monk, look more like a d4 druid x LE falconer x d2 meleezon, and the class is very much poison themed, nothing holy related
but I must admit their combat resembles d3 monk a lot, dex based class, wearing staff, and the combat speed is definitely not witch doc which is ways slower
also, they have completely different origins
monks are from ivgorod, witch doc are from kurast

here is the map, the 2 classes are so far apart

actually got nothing to do with the amazon either, they are from skovos isles

[atomic plover]

yes @hardy crane, i fell for a freaking phishing scam on my end. deepest apologies, and yes i'm an idiot 😦

and they dm'd everyone on my friends list too :/

[hexed stream]

@junior oyster but I have to say, while witch doc is definitely the african shaman archetype irl, I think this time the spiritborn features african warriors, you know, the ones that can outrun lions and jaguars and run faster than usain bolt

[atomic plover]

just recovered access to my account, and now trying to undo all of the damage. super embarrassing

[fresh verge]

I love poe, I ctrl+f cyclone and straight up don't understand the change that was made

like, can't comprehend the implications

[mossy thorn]

Weapon does more damage compared to before

[hexed stream]

I'm poe noob, what builds got better next league?

[fresh verge]

easy

losing phys tag means no more insane benefit from infused channel

[hexed stream]

oh boi, back to basics removed from game

[simple needle]

how did GGG put a game inside a game

its crazy how well they understood city planners , base building games and make it complex enough to put into POE with that a mount of time

[hexed stream]

they learn from wolcen, simple as that

but have to be real here, it's just some mini city building game, still miles away from a true full fledged city building game, which has much greater and deeper complexity

also I believe arpg dev has some kind of a knack for city building game, look at crate entertainment, farthest frontier is quite well made

[simple needle]

i mean they did that within one league to another

[hexed stream]

mini game takes a few days to develop at best, especially when you already have a reference or 2

[simple needle]

had spare time to make a market place to trade currency that solved decade long headache we had

[hexed stream]

and more importantly for casual players: respec with gold

[abstract wharf]

is the coffee amazing?

[smoky tinsel]

its everything you dream it to be
||if your dreams are nightmares||

[abstract wharf]

now I am just trying to decide if 8pm is too late for coffee

[smoky tinsel]

depends if the servers come up or not 🙂

[abstract wharf]

hopefully they do!

[hexed stream]

what game?

lol wtf poe next league you don't even need to run the map yourself, can assign npc to run it for you, what the heck

[tame dome]

o.o wat

[hexed stream]

yeah, sounds really wtf right?

[tame dome]

Yeah.

[hexed stream]

next league will be the most inflationary league in the history of poe I guess

trade shipments get you currency, npc running maps for you and get you currency, and so on

[tame dome]

Crazy.

[junior oyster]

Hideout 2.0 😂

[hexed stream]

man, now you can juice the $h!t out of a map in poe with 6 map device and wisp from affliction league 3.23

[hexed stream]

who need nimis when you can craft this lol

[dull fiber]

LE, give me a sigh, sign in the same time:

[hexed stream]

the year that will change humankind forever

[junior oyster]

PoE new league is looking hot. I think I might just play it again this league.
||Only to do blight all over again lol||

[hexed stream]

play it bro, town building intensifies
and hire slaves to run maps for you

[junior oyster]

Can't lie I don't care too much about the town building aspect but the currency exchange along with blight changes has me intrigued lol

[hexed stream]

I only do normal blight to start off the currency hunt, never bother with blight maps and ravage maps

but the bigger issue is I still don't know what to start next league, too much change

[junior oyster]

For me it's always a pet build. The only exception is D3 and D4. I go Wizard in those games cuz necro is boring.

Can't wait to buy 300 ids for 10c.

[hexed stream]

while pet builds are my favorite in arpg, they are my least favorite in poe, I shudder to think about the investment cost into AG

[junior oyster]

AG lasts fine in T16 maps and non-uber pinnacle bosses usually so I don't mind.
My biggest gripe is CE

[hexed stream]

AG is fine in t16, but in t17 it drops like flies

most likely I'll play melee next league, coz they buff a lot

[junior oyster]

Maybe but I don't think I plan on doing T17. I'm not interested in ubers and so naturally I'm not interested in T17 maps.
I'll get to maps, defeat pinnacle bosses and then move on to other games

[hexed stream]

t17 are maps, it's not something separated

and the mats from t17 bosses really sell well

[junior oyster]

I'll get to t16 maps. If I want to/can do I'll do t17 maps. Otherwise I'll move onto other games.

[hexed stream]

how long do you usually play league? for me is around 1 month

[junior oyster]

3-4 weeks usually. Sometimes 2 if i lose interest quickly enough.

[hexed stream]

3-4 is more than enough to be decently strong for t17 though

by then t17 feels no different from t16, unless back to basics, but that atlas is removed from game, so it's ok

[junior oyster]

Isn't t17 super op where you get drops like mage blood and stuff?

I mean super op as in difficult?

[twilit mountain]

No, not really. That was just hyper specific setups that jacked quant and rarity into the sky. They're also not very hard (outside of some bosses, but those are peak) they just had a lot of bs mods.

[junior oyster]

Oh ok. I always thought t17 was supposed to be uber level difficult from the t17 maps I had seen being played online by Raxx or Ziz lol

[chrome grove]

they were supposed to be between T16 and uber bosses in difficulty

as they drop the fragments required to spawn uber bosses they were meant to be less difficult, but mostly they were more difficult than uber bosses. Especially when juiced.

[hexed stream]

next league they will adjust t17 difficulty to be in line with what they intended: between t16 and uber bosses

but most people will be too busy with town building anyway

[junior oyster]

So I'll die like crazy as always. Fair enough.

[hexed stream]

die in t16? hang on

[junior oyster]

T17

I mean I die to certain pinnacle bosses like Maven due to things like being terrible at memory games or dying to Sirus because I can't tell what the heck is going on because everything is just black and red...
Meaning T17 will probably be like that where a random projectile just straight up kills me because I didn't see it.

[hexed stream]

ah no, t17 bosses are similar to t16 bosses, just better stats, they don't require you to memorize mechanics like pinnacle bosses

[junior oyster]

I'm more worried of normal mobs than bosses. Especially exarch mobs (or whichever one is the "death" themed boss)

[hexed stream]

last league I died a lot coz I dared to attempt t17 back to basics with build and gears not qualified for it, but this league should be fine with the proper finetuning to t17

[twilit mountain]

T17 Lycia is unironically peak as hell though. Better than most of the pinnacle bosses lmao

[junior oyster]

Who is Lycia?

[hexed stream]

Prolly 1 of the t17 bosses. I never bother to learn their names

[junior oyster]

Hmm still no expedition in NMS

[hexed stream]

Hmm, so t17 maps have been nerfed with 55% less hp and 35% less damage, should be accessible to most people, unlike last league when only the 0.1% could handle

[twilit mountain]

One of the T17 bosses, but also the final boss in Sanctum runs. T17 version has a different move set.

[junior oyster]

Oh I hated sanctum lol

[twilit mountain]

Sanctum sucks I agree lmao
But T17 Lycia is a genuinely fun fight imo

[junior oyster]

Is it the same mechanic where you fail if she "kills" you?

[twilit mountain]

Nah, it's a map. 6 portals.

[junior oyster]

Ok cool. I'm guessing she is harder than the pinnacle bosses? Also is Cat a t17 boss?

[twilit mountain]

I'd say harder than pinnacles but still completely fair (some mods may change this). Might be better after changes, not sure.
And yeah, there's a Catarina one, I think hers is Ziggurat.

[junior oyster]

Ziggurat?
I also happen to hate Cat boss fight. Black and green urgh.

[twilit mountain]

Name of one of the T17 maps.
I don't remember them all, but there's I think 5. Ziggurat is Catarina. Sanctuary is Lycia.

T17 Cat is terrible imho.

[junior oyster]

Oh I see.

So basically I avoid ziggurat like the plague then (assuming I get to t17 maps lol). I hate her normal boss fight with the skeles on the ground and how you have to step on them. But I can barely see anything with black, green and a bunch of projectiles from her and me.

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, that's a safe bet lmao
There's one T17 that is exponentially older than the others, I'll go find the name

It's Fortress. It's so much easier.

[sand wigeon]

I want an ARPG that’s entirely focused around quests to help repair this random town

[junior oyster]

I mean I'm not sure if Wolcen did that but in Grim Dawn you get some quests in certain towns that you do some quests to make a few changes to the towns

[sand wigeon]

Nono ARPG farming town repair sim NOW

[copper cypress]

https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/the-greatest-estate-developer/episode-10/viewer?title_no=3596&episode_no=10

[mild plover]

exQse me

[violet tulip]

have you experienced freeze like this?

[hasty grail]

any recs on wireless headphones w/Mic for pc use

[sand wigeon]

Damn, what game is this?

[hexed stream]

dunno, arpg made by martians maybe

sheet, can't wait for 26th, this new league gonna be the best ever

[alpine token]

so im unsure where to ask this so why not off-topic, does anyone have an issue of browser videos like netflix or whatever stuttering a lot while last epoch is open? is there a graphical setting causing this issue

[simple needle]

check ur ram usage

[alpine token]

its like 70%

i have 32g LE usually uses like half that

[junior oyster]

Oh they allowing us to post screenshots now. Finally...

I wonder when they allowed it

Nvm it's been a while. How'd I not notice lol

[hexed stream]

I wasn't even aware they turned it off

[desert jasper]

A while ago ppl were talking about food in general and ehg_wick was there
This lead to him wanting food pics

[junior oyster]

It's useful for other reasons too like being able to know what video someone posted.

[hexed stream]

So, how many going into next poe league, arguably the best league ever in the history of poe?

[desert jasper]

Will most likely play it but not at launch

[twilit mountain]

I'll give it a try. Gotta figure out what I'm playing. Something Warden but don't know further than that. My brain immediately went cooked and thought "what about Reave of Refraction"

[hexed stream]

thinking about warden too, lightning strike warden, league of melee afterall, don't even give a slightest thought about non-melee

[slender parrot]

I'm going minions, the level of cheap gear available to me will literally carry me to ubers.

[hexed stream]

I'm not a fan of poe minion builds, AG is a bit expensive yet die too often
lost around 50 div to AG last league

[slender parrot]

Yeah, that is frustrating but even those items will now be cheap for the most part.

[hexed stream]

kingmaker, garb, those won't be any cheap, in fact, garb will get more expensive coz delve got nerfed

[slender parrot]

I really like bleed bow gladiator but I'm going to wait 'till the dust settles on the league before I decide what I really want to do.

More people will be running delve with juggies though, garunteed. Time will tell.

[hexed stream]

most tech that protect you against delve got some terrible nerf, so I totally doubt your statement

meanwhile, playing the normal way aka mapping got too much buff, especially the nerf to quant makes general farming better

[slender parrot]

We'll see. I don't think it'll be as expensive to kit your AG as it was last league - either way, there's still budget options. I managed to keep my AG alive through most of the BS in the last league.

[hexed stream]

to me, budget AG is as good as non-existent, things like leer and the 2h staff

[slender parrot]

One more face in an army is still someone to take a hit away from my face.

[hexed stream]

also this league is league of melee, I won't consider anything other than melee

[slender parrot]

I'm going hipster status, melee chads will be everywhere. I'll be the one idiot with a useless build. Pure POE style.

[hexed stream]

also, I played bama in 3.23 and that build is already the epitome of pet build , no pet build can be better than that imo

[slender parrot]

I'm going to try the holy relic of conviction, I missed the boat on that in Necro league. It looks like fun.

[hexed stream]

I played that build last league too, my 2nd build of league, was a lot of fun and massive clear but bossing capability was really meh

[slender parrot]

That's usually how it goes. I found an early mirror in Affliction, I've done everything and seen everything I wanted to see. We're on cruise control now,.

[hexed stream]

that's why I want to try melee, everything melee got buffed almost 2x, and I never experienced melee before

[slender parrot]

I've done a few builds - ice crash, molten strike and EQ but I couldn't handle the transition between yellow and red maps as melee. It was such a different struggle than kitting out pure damage over excessive defensive layers. I don't know, I've always wanted to try Frost Blades.. maybe.. just maybe..

[hexed stream]

this league is a good time to try, they don't just buff melee damage, they buff defense as well

[slender parrot]

yeah, this is why I enter build limbo. Curse my savage ADHD.

[hexed stream]

just want something with massive clear and above average bossing
especially this league is a big middle finger to the mf streamers like fubgun, sure they still will be a lot richer than me purely because of their game knowledge, but not as much of a gap as before

the whales won't be able to manipulate market like before

[junior oyster]

Best league maybe, best league mechanic? I'm not sure.

[junior oyster]

Oh I'm sure they'll find a way lol

[maiden widget]

The league mechanic looks absolutely dreadful to me and my buddies so I'll definitely not jump in immediately

[proud coral]

so u can be 0 hp apparently

[gleaming tiger]

lol yeah, I was fighting a wave of mobs and I got down to 0 like 5 times haha. 🤣 still was alive shockingly

[ebon meadow]

I actually timed that thing at one point and manage to run around 3 mint with 0 hp and just ward regen and retention lmao feelsweirdman

[hexed stream]

in what way when quant is gone from game? that's the only factor in favor of the whales, which is now thankfully removed
regarding league mechanics, that's true, that's why I just said it's the best league, not the best league mechanics, but anyway, there are like 4 league mechanics in this, 3 of which from previous league anyway, like wildwood wisp
@maiden widget why dreadful? being a boss of the hirelings (aka slave owner) is so fun

[maiden widget]

having a city builder with very likely bad ui in game does nothing for me especially if it has some real time waiting mechanics as well and includes micro management.

[hexed stream]

I recall it works offline too, the only part is the collection you need to talk to npc

I wonder if it ships for me some mageblood

[junior oyster]

Only for the pros out there

[hexed stream]

🥲

[hexed stream]

can't be punctual without punctuation

[sand wigeon]

What flavor is that even supposed to be aside from “spicy,” ‘cause it has sweetener in it which makes me think it’s more like a spicy BBQ sauce, and not a hot sauce? It could be tangy, though.

[ebon meadow]

I trying to guess that flavour to lol ,that aside there no Carolina ripper there so it's safe "to some point"

I m guessing is close to tobascos flavor ,just heat and nothing much

[sand wigeon]

Possible

[gloomy locust]

anyone ever get a item recovered after mistakenly shattering it ?

[hexed stream]

no, time machine not yet invented

[sand wigeon]

Shattering? What’s that? I don’t remember that from any of the non-LE ARPG’s.

[opal flower]

It's literally a function of LE

[sand wigeon]

Damn I didn’t know this was an LE channel

For food pic enjoyers

In order, for those who might not be able to tell what they are:
Chicken shawarma, mushroom shawarma and shawarma fries, panini with pesto mayo, bacon, spinach and cheddar on focaccia, steamed pork and vegetable dumplings, sushi and sushi (don’t remember the exact rolls), burger with bacon and cheddar on focaccia, vegan burger on brioche with vegan cheese and jalapeños, mushroom and sausage pizza, red pepper sriracha pizza, garlic knots

[hexed stream]

on a diet, must contain myself. HOLD

[crisp copper]

This ribcage looks in pretty good shape for seemingly being exposed for more than 7000 years
I don't know what creature it is from, but I would suggest making structures or weapons out of these kind of bones 😂

[sand wigeon]

Sushi, freshly baked sourdough with honey and garlic butter, ravioli and pesto, cheesecake

[hexed stream]

🤯

[vagrant topaz]

Hold my beer

[hexed stream]

😵

[ashen osprey]

@thorn nacelle @ember lake Thanks you both, and your efforts where not in vain, I finally did it.

"Hohe Leistung" means high performance

[thorn nacelle]

Ganz genau! xD

[ashen osprey]

Just that you see I did not fool you @ember lake , that is my settings menu

[ember lake]

I think you are on Windows 10, hence the difference 🙂

[ocean rivet]

Edelweiss flower found in the mountains of Austria
https://imgur.com/a/ryBSday

[ember lake]

The ones that look like they're made of felt! They're so pretty 😁

[pine basalt]

i just got stripped from my stuff ;'(

[south gust]

Posts like this make me happier than coffee in the morning. ❤️

[sand wigeon]

Hell yeah

[junior oyster]

Me too because I hate coffee 😂

[sand wigeon]

I do like a good coffee

[south gust]

I got a chance to make my own fish & chips from scratch last week. I was very happy with the end result.

[sand wigeon]

Ooo, those look great

[south gust]

They were! We had left overs and baking them in the over made them almost better than fresh which I did not expect

[desert jasper]

Looks tasty
Meanwhile I made a great stew during the weekend
didn't end up taking any pictures though

But I first threw in some diced somewhat fatty beef to a pot with no additional oil or anything, medium heat
diced some onions, garlic, bellpeppers and threw it all in after the beef had browned and let it all simmer. ofc some other spices too
then threw in some potatoes that I had diced and poured just enough water to cover the potatoes
Turned out amazing, still got 1 portion left

The beef was about 2cm x 2cm cubes

[south gust]

I'd make a stew tonight but it's WAY too hot to even think about it haha

[desert jasper]

Tbh I normally wouldn't make stew in the summer
but I had quite bad flu
and just finally actually getting my full taste & smell back so I wanted something special

But yeah, usually stew isn't the kind of stuff I'd eat during the summer

[mental talon]

For any PoE enjoyers Steve hit the Delve cap about 2 minutes ago. Legendary.

[ebon meadow]

Wait really ? Wtf depth did he hit ? That thing should not have a cap at all yeez

I need a clip lol ,delve is life delve is love

[twilit mountain]

65535 iirc
Integer cap or smth like that, so it has to cap

[ebon meadow]

65k + what is the world lmao how the hell he survived that

[twilit mountain]

Dude's build is stacked beyond comprehension

https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis/character/turdtwisterx/SHITSTAIN_STEVE_RETURNS?type=exp&i=0&search=name%3Dsteve

[ebon meadow]

Ok we have new god in Poe ,I was expecting the russian dude to that I think he was called Dima or something

Oh my lord that gear and jewels ,man running 4 voyces forbidens and so many jewels lmao ,I m on phone at I l check when I get in pc ... That's crazy

[bitter field]

is this channel OK for talking about ARPGs in general?

[sand wigeon]

yeah go ahead

[bitter field]

so I played grim dawn quite a bit (~1K hours), loved D2 and 3, was disappointed by D4 on release, enjoyed LE so far. Torchlight 2 was quite OK as well and Victor Vran actually rly good, although more of an action game than an rpg. Which arpg should I try next? (except POE cause online only games don't rly work where I live)

[hexed stream]

inquisitor martyr, they have offline mode now
or if you can handle graphics of the last decade, TQ1 is a solid choice too, the ancestor game of GD

[sand wigeon]

Why did D4 disappoint you?

[maiden widget]

PD2 is a great mod with optional plugy support if you loved unmodded d2

[quasi monolith]

iirc correctly more people worked on one of the D4 classes than the entire EHG staff including community managers

[sand wigeon]

I mean, they have more employees, so that's not necessarily surprising

Especially because there's much more visual customization in D4, so it's likely a lot of that isn't even in gameplay

[hexed stream]

and most importantly, their target audience are the casual players, that's totally different from LE, poe or whatever better-rating arpg

[sand wigeon]

Yeah. D4 is probably my favorite ARPG because I am a casual player. I enjoyed the story, the setting is interesting enough, the voice acting was great, and it looked good. I had lots of fun.

[steel coral]

surprised the paragon board designer still has a job if it's meant for casuals

[sand wigeon]

I think that D4 is the nice level of complexity where, if someone is familiar with the genre, they can understand builds easily- while still giving people who want to dive more in-depth space to do so.

[steel coral]

the problem is that the paragon boards all end up into a cookie cutter 1-4 variations

it's just extremely unapproachable for no reason

it's really bad that you get so much additive damage from it making it worthless on actual gear 90% of the time

it just irks me alot becuase d4 could just have a good skill tree or something instead of it

[sand wigeon]

I think I like the skill tree quite a lot, so it doesn't bother me.

[steel coral]

maybe they did get it right for their target audience idk

[hexed stream]

it's not about getting it right or wrong, most casual players follow guides, and to them, you look at d4 paragon board or poe passive tree they're the same thing, and can't find the right and wrong in either
but tbh, they can rework their paragon board and make it into a paragon tree, I think I prefer that

[sand wigeon]

I think you underestimate the casual gamer TBH

Sure, a lot of casual players do follow guides, but a lot also don't

Plus, using guides isn't a bad thing as long as you take the time to understand why the guide chooses what it does.

[hexed stream]

I know many don't, but most of those who don't, don't know the existence of guide or where to find, they are the true casuals that don't even go to game forum or twitch or discord or youtube to look for guide
that is, before I tell them where to look for guides lol

[sand wigeon]

I still don't think I agree. I'm a 'true casual,' too, the same as them.

At least as far as I'm aware. I'm not sure how you classify a true casual.

[steel coral]

you may be a casual but i think 95% of casuals don't join the game discord

[hexed stream]

true casual are the ones that just play in their little free time, and don't care about any media related to the game (forum, discord, twitch), only engage in the game itself

[sand wigeon]

I'm here because one of my closest friends is in here and wanted to get me into the game, so I joined to learn more about the game

[sand wigeon]

I'd say I'm pretty damn close to that. For example, I'm not in any PoE discord aside from 'talking to friends.'

[bitter field]

oh I played a lot of TQ1, excellent game too!

[bitter field]

the build variety seemed to be purely tied to uniques at release, like there was very easy "obvious" ways to build characters and there were not varied (basically the complete opposite of LE imo)

[sand wigeon]

Mm, I can see that, yeah

I think the most recent changes did a lot there

[hexed stream]

yeah, and TQ2 is out soon TM

[bitter field]

yeah I heard good things about the latest season changes, maybe I should go back to check. I caught up on what you wrote earlier and I absolutely agree D4 is way more casual friendly, it does look really good and actually made me care about the story, I'll give it that. It's just that once I finished the campaign I felt like I had nothing else to do since my built felt "done" unless I'd be lucky to drop some super specific uniques that would shake things up. In general I don't like a build system that purely depends on uniques, I rly like that in LE you can find cool interactions and make smth work, feel clever for it. Very end game will still depend on pushed gear but that's a normal ARPG thing

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, the main draw for me was the story and voice acting, honestly. I've been a Diablo fan since I was a child, so I wanted to see the setting continued, and I got that.

[bitter field]

I get that for sure

[steel coral]

d4 is still fun, it's just weird that they seemed to have learned nothing from previous diablo games and other arpgs

[sand wigeon]

I think they totally learned, TBH. Can you elaborate?

[balmy jasper]

I prefare poe over diablo IV

[steel coral]

at least they stole greater affixes to make gear progression exist

[steel coral]

that's a long list tbh, but my biggest issue is that they don't keep seasonal mechanics and content in the game, or that it's just not good enough to keep in the game

[sand wigeon]

Understandable

[bitter field]

this always kinda confused me tbh, if I experience a rly cool new seasonal mechanic, I'd like to continue playing that in legacy

but I'm not really used to the always online model also, maybe POE is like that Iidk

[sand wigeon]

For PoE, some mechanics make it to standard and others don't. Entirely unique ones usually don't, but occasionally have, AFAIK. I'm no expert.

[steel coral]

it's basically the same path as LE is gonna take, poe kept most of it's seasonal content while it was a new and maturing game

and then they stopped doing most of it because they already have too much content at this point

[bitter field]

I see

[quasi monolith]

Of course, I'm just making fun of how lackluster their skill trees are despite the manpower involved

inb4 yes, more people equals more chaos etc, this is still not an excuse

[sand wigeon]

Indeed

[hexed stream]

You see, they answer to the shareholders, not the players, that's the key difference

[stiff ice]

PepeLaugh guess what

shameless, not even rare :D

[hexed stream]

wonder how MG people has so much gold, even in d4 where you drop 5mil per whisper, I never dare to imagine earning 1 bil gold without engaging in trade

[junior oyster]

I prefer Diablo 3 over Diablo 4 😂

[hexed stream]

Same, but somehow I can stick with d4 season much longer than d3

Anyway, I haven't touched d3 after they started recycling seasons

[ocean rivet]

Look at my horse, my horse is amazing

[ocean rivet]

Bought this today

[full coyote]

It looks quite soft and fuzzy!

[ocean rivet]

It does feel soft and fuzzy plus, it has a thermal regulation so it can keep you cool during summers and warm during winters

[magic root]

Oooh comfy

[swift bear]

Just killed Aberroth, and I'm very proud of it.
What a fight. Got him down on my very last eye, and he even dropped a +2 Nihilis.
Looking forward to the next cycle.

[sand wigeon]

What is this? Faux fur?

[ocean rivet]

No it's sheep wool

[ocean rivet]

It's very nice to sleep on, I myself also have one of these + 2 others

[magic root]

Congrats!! ☺️

[magic root]

Lovely to hear ☺️

[ocean rivet]

This one is extra extra fluffy

[sand wigeon]

Looks awesome

[jade jackal]

This? In July? Give me a whole chair made out of ice.

[stable fulcrum]

wow, atamifuji looks so much more settled and prepared this basho (watching day 1 summary on nhk)

[junior oyster]

What?

[stable fulcrum]

grand sumo

[junior oyster]

Ok...

[stable fulcrum]

i know it's super random

[magic root]

looks really comfy ☺️ !!

[desert jasper]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[ocean rivet]

This actually helps keeping you cool in summer

[desert jasper]

I hate my current chair tbh
leather chair and my apartment goes to like 28-30c during the summer

[sand wigeon]

Easily the best of piece of clothing I have ever owned is the rabbit fur ushanka I have

Fur and wool are amazing materials

[thin wing]

hello

[brittle ether]

hello i need help... im handicaped and the blurry effect after finish a mono is a problem for my eye... is there a way to get rid of that?

[magic root]

save every penny you can and invest in a good ergonomic chair. your butt and back will thank you later 🤭

[sand wigeon]

This thing is a godsend in the colder months

https://crowncap.com/en-us/collections/aviators/products/napa-leather-aviator-with-rabbit-trim
Modern version of mine, since mine is a hand-down

[ocean rivet]

Is it ergonomic tho?

[hexed stream]

asking the important question here

[thorn nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-black-guy-what-akward-gif-26811297

[sand wigeon]

damn. i don't recognize this game. anyway, i'm excited for project zomboid beta 42. excited to see al the changes

[thorn nacelle]

[quasi monolith]

see you in 2026

[sand wigeon]

Build 42 is really close to release, perhaps a few months

[quasi monolith]

confirmed to release this year. although i will still prob hang onto b41 because of the modpocalypse, since b42 doesnt really seem that interesting to me:
-i dont see a use for animals besides challenges
-height limit is also meh, 16 or 32 stories of identical apartments is nothing interesting, basements could be cool if they can spawn rare loot, but they are useless other than that
-crafting is also limited to challenge runs, unless you can craft scrap armor that is better than the gear you can find, otherwise i dont see a point in grinding 10 levels instead of one fire department run
-performance improvement is nice, i hope it applies to cars in multiplayer as well

[sand wigeon]

fair enough

[thorn nacelle]

he does slam there and where i am supposed to go?

10% best try so far xD

@vagrant topaz skill issue

[thorn nacelle]

who is your daddy! xD

[ocean rivet]

So he is cheating sometimes huh...

[thorn nacelle]

[sand wigeon]

Why do you keep posting LE stuff in the off topic channel? I’m just confused

[hexed stream]

Yeah, it's too on-topic to be here

[ocean rivet]

You can upload images here, can't in general

[dusky mesa]

Maybe try the #❔┃ask-the-community channel for this specific question 🙂

[bitter field]

question, why do you guys think the merchant guild system somewhat works in LE while the auction house in D3 didn't?

[sand wigeon]

Personally, I don't think it really does work, but that's more because of an abscence of viability around CoF. Primarily, my reasoning for the failure in D3's marketplace is that it encouraged RMT.

[bitter field]

real money T ?

oh wait transaction *

my problem with a dedicated trading system in ARPGs is that (at least for me) it's at odds with the core principle of an ARPG which is the loot. If the loot doesn't matter (since it's all money, cause you trade it away to buy the stuff you actually want), it's a whole part of the game that's missing and at this point it's purely an action game. I thought that was a big issue for Diablo but it doesn't seem to be one for LE, so I'm curious about what they did that seems to make it OK for the merchants guild players

[dusky mesa]

Good Question...

I think that works here, because you can just have both. And are not dependent on one or the other?

The Game worked just fine before both aditions. Now it has something for the Merchant-People who love to trade stuff. And a bonus for the People who loves the Farming Aspekt of it?

Could be as simple as that. Just Scratching the Itch, i guess?
And why it's ok? Could be because of the Reputation System. Trading nor CoF can be Gamebreaking for everyone. You need to have the Rank to use the Items from the Other Faction.

in D3 you could sell everything for RMT. Which is, and will be, always a No-Go System for most of the Player.

[bitter field]

so your point is that some people love trading (itself) and they'll enjoy that aspect with merchant's guild, so it's like a mini-game on the side of the real game, interesting

[dusky mesa]

I would say so, yes. It's the Same in ESO - for an Example. there are players who play it like a Trading sim. Making Millions on Millions every week without any means to use it really. Because there is none in the long run.

But in LE you can use the Trade to Min-Max faster/better with less time, because you can sell Good items that you don't need and buy the Ones you need.

Pay to Progress. But with Ingame Money? 🤔

The biggest Problem is the mentioned Gold Glitches which broke the Pricing. But I understand that it's not that easy to fix Something like that in a way, thats good for all player. Someone will always Point a Finger at you.

[thorn nacelle]

Cause we can

[sand wigeon]

I mean, sure. It can detract from the convo's people might have here, though.

[dusky mesa]

Not every Topic for LE has it's own channel. So... Off Topic it is?

[sand wigeon]

What topics for LE don't have a channel?

[dusky mesa]

I don't see a Discussion Channel? Or a Screenshot Channel. Also: its quite normal in a Community that sometimes Topics merge together and going "Off-topic" in the Means of the Channel or overarching Theme. It happens. 🙂

[sand wigeon]

You have general, ask the community and every class channel for discussion. A screenshot channel doesn't exist because people were abusing it, which is unfortunate. And yes, I'm well aware.

[hexed stream]

I want a good ssf experience, but I think game will also be boring without trade, LE scratches both itches, so it's ok

[sand wigeon]

I wish CoF was more viable ‘cause I’m not the biggest trade fan

I think the only ARPG I really trade in is PoE

[shy sage]

🤣🤣🤣

[thorn nacelle]

Its offtopic still and no people where talking and if they do is still offtopic.

@shy sage 🤣

[sand wigeon]

I understand that. Thanks for explaining your logic and clearing up the confusion, even if I don't agree

[shy sage]

To be honest I still don't understand lol

[hexed stream]

[sand wigeon]

As far as I can gather, it's just generally "well, it's the LE server so why shouldn't I post LE in the off topic channel? I'm not doing anything wrong," and my personal opinion is that despite it being the LE server, it's still the off topic channel. But I also understand where the others are coming from.

[shy sage]

I'm doubt that the sense of this channel if it's just another common channel to discuss le

Oh maybe this is the right place to discuss the difference between le and another Diablo-like ARPG but it's out of my box ☑️

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, I think I'd consider that more than acceptable

[sand wigeon]

Anyway, my roommate stole this from me while we were hanging out and wore it for a few hours

She looked positively dashing, so I might need to scrounge up some money to get myself a new one, especially because my current one is a little tight anyway

[thorn nacelle]

Who cares if u agree is the question. You can apply as Moderator or complain there that people posting pictures about the game in offtopic channel.

[sand wigeon]

Okay buddy

[thorn nacelle]

You are welcome

[sand wigeon]

Kinda coming out swinging there, a teensy aggressive. Best to move on

[sand wigeon]

I have a much cheaper hat that fits me fine, but its faux fur and just generally worse materials. Not as warm or soft, so I definitely think I'll just be investing in a new hat

[hexed stream]

what's the trick if league launches at 3am in my place? sleep very early and also wake up early?

[sand wigeon]

Could just not play launch

It's not worth losing sleep over

[hexed stream]

I'll see if I can sleep at 9pm and by 3am, I would already have 6h of sleep, which is my regular daily amount

[desert jasper]

I'd honestly just go sleep at a normal hour and wake up normally
Maybe even get a bit of fresh air before starting the league

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, but you'd likely be exceptionally tired by around nine PM,. I'd say don't screw up your sleep schedule, but if that's a non-issue, I dunno

[sand wigeon]

Yeah. It's really not a huge deal if you're a few hours late. Self care takes priority.

[desert jasper]

It's starting 11pm my time
And on saturday we are grilling & going to sauna with friends
so I'll probably just hit the gym in the morning and then play for some hours before the grilling

[sand wigeon]

Sounds like a fun day

[hexed stream]

indeed

[sand wigeon]

I would've loved to go on a walk, since the early light is really pretty today, but I didn't want to go alone and my roommate is asleep

Most unfortunate

[hexed stream]

I'll see how I can do about it, 1st day at most I can barely complete campaign, and I hope some key item prices don't increase several times compared to if I could play a few hours earlier
it's the hard lesson of last league where there were 2 key items I missed by half a day and it costed me around 200+ div more than I should have bought

[sand wigeon]

I understand that

[hexed stream]

but again, it's probably not that much of an issue since I have much more knowledge with the economy compared to last league, so getting currency will be easier for me this time too

can you imagine last league I didn't even know about chaos recipe

[sand wigeon]

I'm pretty new to PoE myself

[desert jasper]

I've played PoE since 2013
with some breaks every now and then. Mostly because I had terrible pc at times

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, I know quite a few people who've been playing for ages

[shy sage]

Pretty hotttttt 😦

The temperature is hard to accept if go outside

[ember lake]

I feel that, I melt at 18c 🥲

[shy sage]

I'm envy at the temperature in UK can keep 24c - always

[hexed stream]

I'm a tropical man, I'm frozen below 25

[shy sage]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[simple needle]

what country is that

[ember lake]

24c in the UK is not equal to 24c in other countries 😅 Our infrastructure like buses/trains start to fail at 28c, schools will close too if they can't keep the temps down as it becomes a health hazard.

All our houses are built to keep every bit of heat inside so even opening all the windows and doors doesn't really help, and home air-con is rare - UK is built for 15c and lots of rain xD

[shy sage]

Dream place to live

I hope all cold rain and cold air in UK can carry to my location

[sand wigeon]

I'm in a similar boat. Living next to water makes the humidity just despicable, too

[hexed stream]

man, I haven't even seen snow in my life before

[fierce moth]

+1

This is why i never understand why many white people would like to stay under the sunlight for a long time for Sunbathing

Oh dear I just want to stay under the cloudy and rainy day

Take my sunbathing daily in this place

[desert jasper]

I remember we once got snow in the middle of June
was at work, looked out of the window all confused

[hexed stream]

you want what you don't have, it's human nature
imagine I'm living in a tropical country yet I get my vitamin D from pill, not from sunbathing

[fierce moth]

Sorry I'm confused. Tropical country means rich sunlight, rich sunlight means rich Vitamin D, isn't it?

[hexed stream]

yes, but too much sun we don't bother, higher risk of getting skin cancer than worrying about vitamin D

[fierce moth]

ohhhh make sense

[ebon meadow]

65% humidity is the killer here even the wind feels like it's coming like when u open a oven

And I m literally on a freaking coast and it takes me 10 min walk to see top

Anyone exited for new Poe league ? Looks freaking amazing . Wanna see D4 justify the cost of expansion now

[mental talon]

You'd have to kill me for me to miss Melee League

I'm logging the hell in (starting practice runs right now)

[ebon meadow]

Yea we didn't had one good one since door league and steel skills introduced I m so hyped

And I m like core spell caster player in every game XD

For old player we know how the league development works and we know they work on multiple ones from ages and just pick the best one out of few that was worked on

The whole announcement was like " but wait ,we have more " xdd

LE can not be judged here it's not blizzard and it's still very young to take anything as target on how game going to develop ,I hope it's a good turn and not like grim dawn where community have to find the fun to play it in mods wise

Saying that I v read that D2 team was put on making content for D4 so for players just cross fingers and hope

Guessing it's not the original one but still the idea they have is probably better than current one

[hexed stream]

I refrain myself on doing anything related to a game when the season is about to come, I believe every season has an enthusiasm lifespan, and by playing earlier before it starts, I will shorten the time I play during the actual season

also, the one I intend to play is not out yet for any practice

[mental talon]

Yeah doesnt matter to me. I always practice league starts as a way to break off rust+unscuff myself.

[hexed stream]

guess it's because I'm not that competitive

[ebon meadow]

U jump on hype train along the player base ,it's just a feeling of being a part of something exiting

[hexed stream]

practicing can give me what? maybe 1-2h reaching maps faster

[ebon meadow]

Maybe ,just remembering the run layouts is already a big gap

Also getting familiar on how skills work if u haven't played them before

Positioning,aoe clear damage etc etc

[hexed stream]

that's why I don't race, coz I know no matter what, 10k tryhard people will be ahead of me anyway
melee skills are reworked anyway, I don't want to familiarize myself with something that will change in 1 day

[mental talon]

I mean I aim to push hard in the endgame and the sooner I can hit maps the sooner I can get upgrades the easier it will be to actually stay ahead of the curve? It's a matter of time and how you want to use your time. For me the sooner I can start getting upgrades the sooner I can get to juiced content I want to do.

[ebon meadow]

I mean if u playing trade then yea gl u l literally have to sweat play and have sleep depravation like me XD u competing in a game that is 10 years old and players that play it as main game

Havoc and Empyrian first come to my head due they are content creators and actual group racers

And then u get people that don't make content but still are gods in game

Like DirtyDan

[hexed stream]

nah, I still sleep 8h a day after day 1, still eat my 3 healthy meals and still go to the gym
and last league I still got my build to around 1 mirror total in value withint a bit more than 3 week
no need to rush anything, it's just a game, it doesn't define my life

[ebon meadow]

If u want to feel on racers level of things in game he best thing u can do is actually participate in community races like ,BPL,Gauntlet and like wise there's plenty in race discord but it means have no life (maybe a job that's not 8hrs a day and nothing else )

[hexed stream]

I play game for fun, not as a job, and for sure don't want to turn it into a job-like activity

[ebon meadow]

That is still more than "casual " player that's actually good . Our rule was and still is real life before gaming this is not wow

Saying that there's a lot of people that plan they work vacation around league starts we are not addicted I swear

[hexed stream]

I'm pretty chilled, like last league, end of week 2 nimis, end of week 3 mageblood, just progress slow, no need to rush coz I don't compare myself to anyone
I don't even bother to complete half of the challenges coz necropolis free mtx too ugly, but this league I will push for 36 challenges, the portal mtx looks so nice

[ebon meadow]

I missed the twitch drop sadegg that back attachment with jolly roger actually looked sick

[hexed stream]

I missed that too, the one when they annouced 3.25

[ebon meadow]

It's fine I l get the Pala mtx it looks cool and I m a blue colour enjoyer

Free to play game my ass tell that to my 2 k mtx tan in steam xdd

[hexed stream]

you gave in to the desire to look noice

[desert jasper]

<@&1161418687471956101>

[ebon meadow]

I looked at anoucment I looked the first mtx theme I was like that freaking meme " there's my card take my money"

[ebon meadow]

TBF they are really good of making Ur character look like a freaking tramp without it

[hexed stream]

like a real exile yeah

[ebon meadow]

No theme no nothing it's just awfull ,but that me personally I know a lot of people that geniunly don't care

[hexed stream]

I care a bit, so I spent $40 to buy a supporter pack to get all the necessary stash tabs and some free mtx, enough to not look like an exile

but I think that's all I will ever spend on the game

[ebon meadow]

That's fair I usually drop on the smallest supporter just because u get the points worth back and if the league is good

I spend nothing on game for last like 3 leagues because they were meh ,I just tip for effort

Might have to get some character slots I m running out and don't want to delete old ones that passed lvl 98

[hexed stream]

haha unlike me, straight delete, I don't have any lingering attachment with things on standard

[ebon meadow]

Ohh my I don't even want to think on how many remove tabs u have depends on how long u been playing ,I have a tab for every league specific items since abyss league

Btw if u do have some game performance I would just clear sell those tabs they tend to memory leak at some point

There was a thing at some point that racers have to make alt accounts for racing due that

Just for zone loading times

[hexed stream]

deleting every char will solve the issue, or you must clear those removable stashes?

[ebon meadow]

Well yea u should delete them when it goes over 100 stashes ,it tends to memory leak and stuff

It's still have to render standard outside league since be all bouncing to main Texas server

But that only for loading times to zones ,and we did have that issue for few league not long ago without it

Same goes for engine folders if u switching them between league and that is normal

If u having issues delete all catche folders in game one and just play something easy for like an hour before they get downloaded again because thosw things start to pile data as big as 3-6 GB for thing u are not using but still have to load ,if u switch between dx11,12 and Vulcan

It will feel like ass playing after but it take mostly an hour before it settle down again and u fix a lot of issues

[hexed stream]

as in if I don't interact with standard at all, and delete all my chars before league starts, does it affect at all? I hate the idea of having to clear the removable stashes every now and then, they should just disappear for example after 2 leagues you don't claim

[ebon meadow]

Nah they still there and all that data still piles on ,but that does depend on what sort of items and for how long u been saving them since everything get rework and u are keeping the legacy items

Most of time it's fine u can keep the very old things but stashed do need to be sorted at some point for loading zone times

[hexed stream]

Like, I just want them all gone in a quick 5min session, how do I do that?

[ebon meadow]

Just ventor everything in act 1

If u don't care ventor and keep the currency if u want so

[hexed stream]

Man, I don't understand why don't they just delete those items if you don't claim them for 30 days after new league starts, for example

[ebon meadow]

Like currency is fine because it doesn't change but item mods do and they render the old version alongside the new ones and that what freaks the system out

[ebon meadow]

Well because there are few player that still play standard and it's economy even if we call it graveyard

[hexed stream]

Yeah, but those who care about standard will claim within the time limit anyway, if they truly care

[ebon meadow]

I don't really care for people that can only play couple hours a week it's a hideout game

[ebon meadow]

They have to it's matter of service if u have It u have to maintain it

Also standard used for testing things first week of league launch since most times the progress carry on in them and people jus funnel things there from current league to test it

[hexed stream]

Not true, time limit to claim past items has been a things for 2 decades since d2 time, and many games also do that, so no idea why poe doesn't

If they really want to solve issue, they can easily notify everyone that from next league onward they will impose a time limit to claim items, beyond which all will be deleted

The current system annoys many people than it helps

Think of it like this, removable stashes are like you renting the server space, and when you move to new place, it's natural to ask you to move all your stuffs to your own place, otherwise after a while they will just throw away stuffs in that rental space, and it's totally their right to do so

[ebon meadow]

Yea but that's not GGG thing they still care for standard it's being going for 9+ years same

[hexed stream]

Yes, but like I said, a time limit to claim items is needed

It doesn't affect those who care about standard in any mean

[ebon meadow]

Well that pushes players to be active outside the active league so that's what they don't want

I would agree with u on that though but we still need to think about others even if half or more of them just looking for exploits

[hexed stream]

So they care about the 0.1% by hurting the other 99.9%, I don't understand the logic

It's hard to think about the minority if the majority is hurt in the process

[ebon meadow]

They do ,they just trying to care for every player witch is impossible ,example is Reddit

Apart from now untill league is out and people will still find things to complain about

[hexed stream]

Like you said, impossible to care for everyone, so you have to pick which side to care more, and right now I think they care for the wrong side

[ebon meadow]

And u not wrong about the % base there neither xdd they just trying to be complesent to everyone

[hexed stream]

It's crazy. Should have imposed something like 15 days of claim time

[ebon meadow]

A lot of people leave the leagues and leagues after two weeks and don't even read what's happening ,they don't want that to be punishing for anyone

[hexed stream]

Instead of forcing the 0.1% to clear their stash within the time limit, they go the opposite way and force the 99.9% to clear it instead if don't want server ping to suffer

Then why don't they introduce another option for people to opt out of that

[ebon meadow]

We did get a forced catche clear after every league but even that isn't enough ,it clears shaders and assets but not what's on Ur account

[hexed stream]

For example by default you can claim whenever you want, but I can opt out of it and have another option to auto delete my stuffs if I don't care about them, like this everyone is happy

Even dev is happy coz it reduces server load

Btw if I empty a removable stash, will it be auto deleted?

[ebon meadow]

They are but that's like a same thing when u get answered for example le ,did u verify u folder on Steam ,did u reinstales that should be fixing Ur issue when in reality it doesn't it just makes people angry for doing extra steps to play a simple game

It's a bit of player and dev issue combined

[ebon meadow]

Yup

[desert jasper]

It'll be removed the next time you move to another location

[hexed stream]

If I don't empty it but delete it instead, will the items inside disappear?

[desert jasper]

Don't think you can just delete it when there's content in there

[ebon meadow]

There's an option of deleting them ?

[hexed stream]

That's sad, so freaking 😔

[ebon meadow]

I m geniunly curious since I always take things out and just ventor them

[desert jasper]

Gonna go check tbh

[ebon meadow]

I have to delete few chars when I get home I l check to

That would be awesome TBF

[hexed stream]

I don't want to waste my time vendoring anything, nor the time transferring thousands of some certain currencies, like, I don't care about standard, why force me to care

[desert jasper]

Yeah I don't see a delete option
also I checked some of my remove only tabs and they were empty 🤔
but didn't get removed

But tbh, you can just hide remove only tabs

And obviously they don't appear in leagues

[ebon meadow]

Yea but that not a problem ,if the character is existent so as old stashes after like 5 leagues they will create a problem for things like loading zones and rendering if u don't delete them

U might not even notice it but a lot people do when those pile up or their connection to server is mid

[desert jasper]

Oh
Didn't realize that 🤔
maybe I should remove some of my old characters

[ebon meadow]

Yea the connection is account based rather than character so it will still load everything on Ur account

And no matter what server u playing we ALL bounce to Texas so yea EU people at disadvantage

that's why US people it's faster to load in to hideout rather than reloging when speed running

[hexed stream]

That's the issue. I wouldn't complain if if doesn't affect the connection and loading time and such

But it does, and that's utterly stupid

[ebon meadow]

It is hardly mentioned anywhere but if u watch speed racers it is very noticeable

The best way to avoid it it's to delete catche folders and just suffer for like another hour wile they redownload wile playing

That's why that thing is hard push push by game automatically now every league

But still doesn't fix old stash and char list

[desert jasper]

I was checking my stash
Found my old shiny Trypanon from like... when were the vaal vault keys a thing?

[ebon meadow]

Boomer talking bit that's about what incursion league and after lol

I don't even have things that is actually legacy I started in breach and start playing very hard in abyss

No beta no before 10 acts introduced

[desert jasper]

Used to even have multiple fishing rods, mirror shards, albino roa feathers but gave them away to friend years ago

Back when I started it ended in... It was either Piety or Dominus. Can't actually remember 🤔

[ebon meadow]

I have dropped a mirror in delirium league in acts that thing is still in my standard museum

[ebon meadow]

Yea that's before act 5-10 introduction lol that is way before me ,2012 maybe

2014 ish

[desert jasper]

I started in early 2013

Still haven't dropped an actual mirror though

[ebon meadow]

Got mine at 4 k hours lol

https://youtube.com/shorts/jnbi5ll65Cg?si=t8MfAJb78hAEIj4r

[desert jasper]

Nicee

[ebon meadow]

I m still hyped about that just because back then we still haven't had that power to add monsters to zones or modifiers we have today

I was on a tip of delirium and just having the double monsters in game per zone

Now it's different

My main spec mechanic is adding packs to a single zone/map that's my spec I don't care for any target farming or anything just have more mobs in same zone

The more u can kill in one zone the more loot u can get u just need to filter it out

[desert jasper]

I'd love to throw in more stuff to my maps
But it usually ends up becoming super laggy for me

[ebon meadow]

If they fix breach outside making HH completely broken that would make me most happy man in game lol

And bring Vaal portal usable again

Breach ,abyss maybe ritual in one map I don't think people understand how we have it easily in Poe killing THAT amount of mobs clearing

It is really stupid ,the game should not lag it should just close it self with a message " are u fkn mad bro?"

Ok I don't have 64 GB of ram I have half but still what game can actually run that amount of actions and not just burn u pc down

[magic root]

32GB is fine for POE. I think its rather a cpu issue or simply POE issue if you want to run all those mechanics at once in 1 juiced map 🤭

[ebon meadow]

And u are corect lol juiced maps to the level we are pushing today even NASA pc and servers should tell u what are u doing lad ? Xdd

There's is literally no game that can handle so many actions per second as Poe ,and as community I have to be a part that we still complain about it

This is an interesting sample of a thing that should kill Ur pc and the character https://youtu.be/SDqzt7Kbg-c?si=ud-LjIdWyMZrqSnZ

3-5 screens cleared per combo cast

[ebon meadow]

yea that slide bar looks scary lol and i usually clear every 2-3 leagues

[compact ocean]

nbd

[ebon meadow]

yea i stay of reddit if that what that is mods dont like much xddi go very ham on silly people old habbit

[junior oyster]

I have no idea what to play as in PoE

I'm thinking pets as usual but is it srs again?

[ebon meadow]

u want to play something good or fun ?

[ebon meadow]

nah u dont want to minions in mele league

[junior oyster]

Both lol. I want to be able to comfortably tackle all the way upto non-ubers.

[ebon meadow]

they l go a lot slower this league

[ebon meadow]

bleed is the key word , find something that u like around it

slam , strike idc but u l be able to do ubers with bleed

just be smart or follow a good guide

[junior oyster]

I'm not a fan of melee tbqh lol. I find that style pretty boring. It's why I never played any melee chars in D2 and D3 😂 (Except a little bit)

[ebon meadow]

i m literally a spell caster my self KEKW

but when stuff clers screen and have defence its funn

[junior oyster]

But yea I might have a look at some melee builds. Won't be fun but it's even less fun if my build will suck lol.

[ebon meadow]

very scary though for us

[junior oyster]

Yea I usually prefer to stay back and let srs minions do the killing lol

In D3 I went wizard for tal rasha meteors

[ebon meadow]

its not that it suck but ALL spels got caind of nerf to not being that fast incuding minions since we share tag

[ebon meadow]

brother that was my favorite build apart from maybe arcon from last few seasons of d3 lmao

[junior oyster]

I suck at PoE so I'll have to look for some build guides lol

[junior oyster]

They did archon set dirty man. I loved it even pre-ros lol.

[ebon meadow]

the salt in wund i had from d3 was the last seasson

[junior oyster]

Killing meteor?

[ebon meadow]

why would u make sucj a great seasson literally the last one

yea

[junior oyster]

Oh the altar of lilith season?

Or one after that?

[ebon meadow]

the extra perks as a "skill" tree one

[junior oyster]

Oh yea they nerfed that altar

[ebon meadow]

the point was to me is u giving people an actual option for once to target farm what they wanted

that was like , why ? last league of the game

it didnt even brake the game it was just , fun

anyways i still had like 3k hours or more out of d3 on console and pc was a worth game

[junior oyster]

I've got 2k hours on Wizard

[ebon meadow]

now how u justify d4 vs 5 monts poe league work (i m memeing that was probaly around 2 years of work)

[junior oyster]

Maybe around 200 total on the rest

I still prefer D3 over D4. I also felt the same way when D3 first released where I liked D2 more.

[ebon meadow]

i have a disket transfer somewhre around pc or USBs with champcreator 😂

think its 1997 release

end me , i was gonna do a practise run xdd

all those tabulas are corupted with stats xd

[junior oyster]

Practice run? I like to take my time.

[twilit mountain]

Every league I make it a goal to fill up at least one normal tab with Tabulas. It's the Tabby tab.

[ebon meadow]

we all have our lil bit of like something spetial in this games

[ebon meadow]

ok i m dead last smoke and to worky tomorrow its past 12 pm

and brother is dunk and fine like US news

[hexed stream]

ok, I asked several people and it seems don't need to clear removable stashes at all, will not affect loading time and if yes, too insignificant to notice, they even went on to show me they have hundreds of uncleared removable stashes
this is perfect, I won't want to have anything with standard, just a simple hide all removable stashes is enough

[twilit mountain]

Lol yeah. I have 22 leagues worth of removable tabs that I simply haven't touched. I think you'll be fine.

[fierce moth]

Need to go outside for an interview afternoon so mobile version will more active today haha

[mental talon]

I've literally never touched my Remove Only tabs and Im fine so idk 🤷‍♂️

[vagrant topaz]

You guys ever connect to standard?

[hexed stream]

I just did yesterday, and after hearing that not clearing the remove only stashes doesn;t affect loading time, that would be the last time I touch standard

[earnest shadow]

anyone here build pcs? i got a question

[desert jasper]

I do, yeah.
But only after league ends to clear out my remove only div card stash and move the content to standard one