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thorn bane
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confluence of oblivion woven echo

night marten
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either the WE, or just do the +16/+18 nodes

edgy light
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any other fast ways to farm rune prison echo?

night marten
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nah

edgy light
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well rip me

opal plume
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oo ty

vernal oyster
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Reflect Shaman: Anyone know Why the Simoon gloves proc tornados on hit (good!) but the spined idols aren't proccing totems on hit (nay!) in human or spriggan form?

whole crater
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Russian players of the community, do you have problems with online chat or multiplayer?

icy burrow
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its only me, when a select a character its take a forever connecting...

night marten
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oh boy...those bleed stacks from laups path really hurt in the early game

unique drum
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When using Birds of Prey (kill threshold node on falconry) the falcon will automatically cast net afterwards. Is this intended or a bug?

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It's actually kind of annoying for my situation since it's putting it and smoke bomb on cd

steep river
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Ok, switched to specced Surge for movement with an unspecced Teleport for the big gap jumps and I'm enjoying it.

frank scarab
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I am really struggling with omen's veil. I can tank all the stuff. I can kill all the stuff, but I am failing to keep the three circles open because of losing my curser, body blocking, and general chaos.

muted cape
velvet thunder
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so I saw you can use class affixes of other classes and put them on neutral Uniques, like channel efficiency, %mana increase both from Sentinel. Any other good affixes you could think of?

frank scarab
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You can't even see the zones for the three circles with so many enemies.

velvet thunder
carmine arch
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Wish I could zoom out more

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feel as if I had a option to me alittle more zoomed out it would help with everything nuking me from off screen.

frank scarab
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Have you tried zooming in more?

carmine arch
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hmmm

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ok, I want first person now

velvet thunder
carmine arch
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i mean i think it would

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because they spawn out side of my screen

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if i was zoomed out and they spawwn alittle farther then it would be better

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because I will still have some range to work with

primal bough
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think I need to take a break until congealed sludge gets nerfed to oblivion or removed from the game

muted cape
subtle idol
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is Siniathias dying breath reforged still bugged?

wanton carbon
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Good evening, everyone. I'm having trouble getting certain items to drop. Is there any way I can manipulate the drop rate?

thorn bane
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Hack the mainframe

strange umbra
thorn bane
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But in all seriousness, make sure it's on your loot filter and then there's multiple ways to target farm... really depends on the item. If it's a boss drop, well you have no choice but to fight the boss unless you are MG, just buy it. COF there's prophecies for everything minus boss drops/primordial. Timeliness have specific unique echo rewards. There's runes of ascendancy to gamble as well. The list goes on

scarlet minnow
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Is there a resource (website or in-game) that let's me know what scales what? For instance i'd like to know what I need to scale Time Rot the best. But i also have alot of other scaling questions about various ailments and/or skills. The skills are easier with the new UI but ailments are still a bit confusing to me as a relatively new player (abt 100hrs in).

fallow elbow
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does the more damage against high health enemies (on army of skin for example) include boss ward, or just purely looks at the hp%?

thorn bane
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You can also alt the text in game to see tags for most things

thorn bane
scarlet minnow
fallow elbow
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so the more damage vs high health mod is much worse vs bosses that trigger boss ward correct?

thorn bane
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How so, and don't all bosses trigger ward 🤔

fallow elbow
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bosses vs monolith mobs (i.e. champions)

thorn bane
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Well those would be champipns not bosses

fallow elbow
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if it doesnt count the boss ward then the effect is up for maybe 1/6 of a uber abby fight

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vs 35% normally

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just want to make sure im understanding how it's working correctly

thorn bane
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I mean sure I guess. But the main point of those boots are the melee atk speed which don't normally show on boots

muted cape
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Hack me into season 5 yeah?

strange umbra
thorn bane
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Dang done with season 4 alr tom

strange umbra
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lol

iron olive
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As a newbie should i go COF or merchants guild?

plush granite
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Real grinders play without factions

ruby ferry
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Do you have kids scream?

zinc blaze
iron olive
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idk im scared

zinc blaze
iron olive
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whats the main trading website

zinc blaze
short vessel
zinc blaze
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You use the merchant guild system

short vessel
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there's an in-game bazaar

zinc blaze
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The item faction choice is trade vs ssf (but ssf gets a lot more loot explosions from prophecies/side quests)

cobalt nymph
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What happened with imprints? I just read reddit

main frigate
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EHG nerfed that, that's all

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Players are harder to get double t7 gears and density of enemies are more because of omens.

The game is harder to go min-max.

iron olive
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how many chapters

hard basalt
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10

short vessel
ancient surge
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Before the whole discussion on itemization and ease of finalizing builds flares up again, have we not kind of... collectively figured it out by now? min-maxing is just... supposed to be hard. But if we were to look at the LP odds, we may get a hint as to the intent behind the whole thing: 1 LP, common enough. 4LP can go into the 1 in millions. I.e. the best stuff is so rare, you shouldn't even bother planning around it.
The present system looks fine enough for early game, all the way into early empowered monos. But as soon as you think about specificity in terms of build synergy and start planning gear pieces around all affixes (including implicits), you get to the point where to get an even balance of capped resistances, proper crit mitigation, and other small defensive layers alongside all the offense-focused factoring you kind of have to put in to just keep up with damage... Is about the odds of a 2LP natural shattered worlds drop. Getting them properly... maxrolled is about the odds of a 4LP shattered worlds.

short vessel
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well

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so i was a long term CoF player

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i would grnd for months

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and most of that grind was already about just double T7 exalts

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those group farmers were on something else

ancient surge
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How often do you drop a natural 2 LP shattered?

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Because I'd kind of equivalate a double T7 to that.

short vessel
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none because my farming last season was farming to get an uber-capable setup with my mid tier build

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this was on CoF

ancient surge
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Not all builds are even meant to stand a chance against uber. The ones that can do it with 1T7 slams are kind of... the overtuned ones, while the others may just be... undertuned.

hard basalt
ancient surge
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But if that is the intent, that is what the devs are balancing against to boot.

hard basalt
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a 2LP shattered is that, an item that can be slammed with 2 affix. Base drop is 1:236

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a double T7 is something you can brick with 3 craft before even getting close to be useful

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with like, 20+ you can maybe get your desired double T7

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then you can go to the 33% gacha to get the right slam

ancient surge
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So far, we were only at the 2T7 to boot. Crafting part is a whole beast of its own that eats up 95% of valuable items we try to craft into our own uses.

short vessel
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plus like

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...double T7's are still not that expensive on MG

ancient surge
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What we mostly want is a reasonable amount of time spent on a 2T7, let's say, It's rare enough to drop one, but it's the crafting aspect that will most likely... negate it.

hard basalt
ancient surge
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By virtue of raining them, yes.

hard basalt
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but if you're CoF it's quite bit harder to get the type you need

short vessel
hard basalt
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on MG you can trade your double T7 dagger and buy the double T7 axe you need

ancient surge
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Step 1 was toning the rain down, we ought to focus more on bringing the crafting part up to snuff now, not go back to raining items that 95% of which will die by crafting.

hard basalt
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CoF, well, it's to the stash for the next chara I guess

short vessel
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is not the play

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it just isn't

hard basalt
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I would definitely welcome a better crafting if it can compensate for the drop rate

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because that's a big issue with LE's drops previously

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drops lost a lot of their excitement because they just brick

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oh double T7, fine

short vessel
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the imprint nerf kinda heavily screws CoF cos it robs you of direction

hard basalt
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that's another 1/20th or 1/30th of what I need to even try slamming I guess

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oh LP3 drops

ancient surge
hard basalt
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oh well it minrolled the +skill and is worse than my Lp2

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and I'm not gonna get another LP3 to reroll it

ancient surge
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And I say this as someone who has so far played 2 weeks worth of seasonal CoF trying to shape up a bee build for primalist.

hard basalt
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if it's gonna make drops feel more exciting again I'm all for it

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it's there for rerolling now, thank god for corruption

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but it's not there yet for the exalt issue

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so right now we're getting the gut without the cure yet in that area

short vessel
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the more i play the less i like this season's interactive mechanics

ancient surge
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As Ugard is also saying, the crafting aspect is kind of a black hole graveyard of multi exalted drops.

short vessel
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and that's fine!

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i think that's absolutely fine

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i don't want crafting to change

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and i think an imprint nerf would have probably been fine if it wasn't so extreme

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because not only did they half imprint drop rates in general

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you have stuff like 70% reroll rate items dropping 40% as often as they did

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on top of that

ancient surge
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So, the only possible solution is to rain the items, you'd say? The one thing the devs intentionally cut down on? Could we, maybe... trust that the dev team actually knows a thing about what they're doing? And work with that, not against it?

short vessel
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sure, and my first thought was "okay lets go for single T7 slams with corruptions"

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and then the corruption affixes dropped

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and i realised for the most part they don't do much actually interesting for many builds

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to offer niche things that make up for other areas

ancient surge
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Corruption being wholly unreliable? Who could have seen that coming?

short vessel
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so in general you're just hoping to RNG into crangling generic stuff to make up for lower stats from doing worse exalts

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so it's just not interesting on top of being a mass rng fest

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like, why is there nothing interesting for minions in corruptions

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corruption was an opportunity for them to get wild with things

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add things they wouldn't add normally

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because it's such rng

hard basalt
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I think it's kinda fine for most stuff you only expected to have LP2 at max anyway

short vessel
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absolutely

hard basalt
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because it could result in a perfectly same item as a perfect rolled 2T7 Lp2

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it's a feasible alternative upgrade path

ancient surge
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Determinism is one of the big no-nos of arpg crafting, insofar as I've experienced. It is largely a trait of the genre and one I've come to expect and work with and around.

hard basalt
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with less double exalt crafting and more single exalt crafting

short vessel
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but then i look at the weapons they seem to want primalists to use for minion builds

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and there's no minion stuff

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in the corrupted affixes

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huh?

hard basalt
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it just kinda falls apart for anything past LP1

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like damn just getting T7 fodder with the right exalted affix is gonna drain my havocs faster than I can farm them

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if I'm gonna do that many LP1 slams

short vessel
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like, i like LE

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i enjoy playing it

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but the fact stands that this game is bleeding players for a reason

ancient surge
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We all do, or we wouldn't be here :p

short vessel
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so "trust the devs" doesn't work really

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unfortunately

ancient surge
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I never meant it as 100% trust, so are you saying give them 0 trust?

short vessel
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what?

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what is that question

silent pivot
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I mean, I went in to the imprint nerfs with an open mind; I thought they were overtuned before (and I still do), but the state things are in right now is just.. bad.

ancient surge
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I asked previously if we can trust anything about what the devs are doing. You now address that with "trusting the devs" doesn't really work.

silent pivot
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It's often not a matter of trust. The developers straight up have a different idea of what the game should be, relative to a lot of players; myself included.

hard basalt
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I mean, they still think we shouldn't have autopick up for shards

silent pivot
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All we can do as players is voice that disagreement and hope they listen.

hard basalt
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because they want it to feel valuable

ancient surge
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It's their product, they are the ones with the most right to shape it. And part of their shtick was being enjoyers of the genre that went to make their own title.

hard basalt
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not "currency"

silent pivot
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For a lot of people they just don't bother, they leave and play something else.

hard basalt
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hard to agree when there's thousand and thousands of them just sitting in my inventory

ancient surge
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The shard thing I do fully agree there, Udgard. If it's a single click to pick up a screen, why not forego the click?

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And yes, player retention... Well, all games kind of have that to deal with that, while seasonal content tends to run into the same thing over and over every season.
Imho, all media industry runs into the same thing and look at what mass appeal leads to: watered down, generic, bland and unappealing content. If this is what we want of LE, I might as well bail before it actually happens.

silent pivot
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One of the things that irks me the most when it comes to raising complaints publicly about video games is when people act like "this isn't fun" isn't a valid reason to complain about something. I'd argue it's actually the single most valid complaint, given that is (broadly speaking) the single most important thing for a video game to be. That doesn't necessarily mean that the suggestion being raised by said player is correct (on the contrary, it usually isn't) but it does mean that something is wrong with the current design.

ancient surge
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I agree to the "this isn't fun", personally, but I kind of wanted to go beyond that and consider what part of it really makes it unfun.

silent pivot
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Imprints in LE, in my opinion, are bad. They have always been bad. I believe they shouldn't exist in their current form at all. Something like a much more comprehensive form of the blessings that increase drop weights for specific items (2H swords for example), extended to cover specific affixes and base types, would likely be much healthier for the game.

ancient surge
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The imprints as a method of skewing a particular item's drop rate in my favor is not something I mind. But I still take it as a skewing of drops and nothing more.

hard basalt
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I think it kinda works because of the crafting system

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imprints serve not just to get T7

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but also to get the correct affix on the next item that drops

silent pivot
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There also likely needs to be some sort of system that allows players to slowly, progressively, get higher quality gear over the course of a season. Imprints filled this role to an extent, as you got better gear, you had better imprints, leading to even better gear dropping. It's a good feedback loop. I don't know what the ideal system would look like, but I think having something that does this is important. And, well. It's dead now. That feedback loop effectively no longer exists.

ancient surge
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The finality of it all is build or gear piece, right? All the item drops in the world won't matter much if only 1 of those makes it into your own progression.

hard basalt
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because the odds of you not just straight up bricking the item just trying to get the affix is so high

iron olive
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This game fun me new

hard basalt
ancient surge
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How often do you go back and craft an item that is of the same (or lesser) power levels for the same build?

hard basalt
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like, even if they don't make it to the final item, if they nudge the next one to be closer to what you're aiming, it's good

main frigate
hard basalt
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if they just... brick and do nothing, it's why seeing them drop loses its charm quick

ancient surge
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Each step along the way of progression gets significantly harder. The guaranteed 1LP slams basically spoiled us already.

olive coyote
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Hi all, is it just me or Aura of Decay needed to be pressed 3 times to activate. Whenever I enter the game, Aura of Decay only need to press once for it to work. But after each map, it needs to be pressed 3 times to activate.

hard basalt
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that doesn't sound right

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sounds like a bug

olive coyote
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Sometimes pressing once is enough after each new map, but most of the time, I need to press exactly 3 times to have it turned on.

ancient surge
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Indeed, toggles should be a single button press.

olive coyote
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So.. a bug, does this also happen to anyone else?

ancient surge
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I would assume your keyboard isn't registering double inputs either?

olive coyote
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No, i'm using the built in laptop keyboard.

ancient surge
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I have had a keyboard before where buttons got so worn out that a key would either not register as being pressed or would just throw in multiples of its presses.

olive coyote
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So there's no way it doesn't recognize the key... i mean it's the laptop's keyboard anyway.

ancient surge
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... Which can also fail.

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But that is besides the point. I was merely mentioning a potential factor.

silent pivot
ancient surge
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Veterans of the genre might notice how the genre itself is rather... simple. Not that much you an do with it.

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If you've already played thousands of hours of PoE, LE isn't going to look that impressive at its core.

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I've also played my own... 10k collective hours of arpg to date, most of which banging my head against poe...

silent pivot
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Just for the record I never said (or thought) Last Epoch was boring, personally. It has a lot of issues, including a lack of content, but it's not boring. Tedious, maybe.

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I find a lot of roguelikes boring, because I feel like I very quickly exhaust pretty much the entire design space.

ancient surge
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I personally have a hard time separating tedium from boredom myself. Repetition can be fun, so long as it still presents some form of evolution and change (blessed be Tzeench)

silent pivot
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I could probably name 30+ builds I've never even tried playing in LE, for example. Something like Roboquest or Megabonk? I've tried literally everything after ~40 hours.

ancient surge
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The time investment to get a build going, level 100 and all the gear, is magnitudes greater than those titles you mentioned, so I can see that. This kind of game that LE is sort of involves that time spent and I'm sorry to altoholics, but going in with a plan, even if one you made yourself, might just be the better idea if you also have a correspopnding goal in mind.

silent pivot
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Siralim Ultimate is a good example of a game I find tedious to play after a while, but never boring. That game has so many different build options it's mind-boggling.

ancient surge
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As for this season, by the by, I could have just persisted with Storm Crows, murdered uber and went on with my life sooner, but I stopped pushing that build and went on to prepare for my own bees setup. My goal was simply bees and see how they hold up against uber for this season and without a well laid plan 2 weeks ago, I would either have just abandoned the idea of bees or got so lost along the way that I'd have given up a week ago. I really extended my time with the game because of this, but it was also kind of... exhausting even getting together the 4 set affix exalts I wanted. Basically a full week for what the build even has at present, of which only 1 even has the 4 desired affixes.

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The above is what led me to focus more on the crafting system as a whole, in relation to the existing drop rate of stuff and things.

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According to LEtools, this character has 6 days 3 hours 5 minutes of total played time, not too much of it spend idling with the game turned on for whatever reason.

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If the overall experience of the game is what matters, this is what went into anything I've ever said about the itemization being reasonable in its current form, maybe adjustable here and there, but we have some other lingering issues or aspects that we could address to tune the overall feel into something better.

short vessel
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@simple bison decided to test things and seems like the the guaranteed rune prison in tombs/cemetaries is working

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at least the first one i went to had it

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oh it was @night marten that responded to me on that

simple bison
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Yeah I haven't done any testing with that node myself, but I suspect it's quite easy to just miss the prison since they can be pretty big and branchy sometimes

amber spade
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those dang toe spammers are back at it again

flint topaz
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oy how do i add a role to myself?

flint topaz
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for anyone crying about bosses being hard, womp womp get good

short vessel
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i swear amber drop rates are less than last season

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cemetaries of reweaving were solidly amber positive when i was running them last season, even including a double idol re-enchant at the end

steel bear
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Void knight, would flat melee damage or % damage give me more damage?

short vessel
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typically flat, but it really depends on how much a proportional increase you're getting

steel bear
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I have +89 melee void damage or +288% increased void damage I can slam on a World Splitter

hard basalt
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it's usually flat

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but ultimately you'll need to calculate how much you already have

steel bear
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Okay thank you

glad stratus
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what is max level of omen encounter ... III ?

main frigate
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le become boring once I know burning daggers marksman can't survive in over 345 corruption :)

south moat
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Maybe it's a skill issue, kirra

main frigate
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The most interesting build meet the toughest restriction.

It's the 6th build I played, I know how to play the game.

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The most smooth build I played still is frost claw sorcerer. It don't hit walls until 700c. Of course, it's 1.1 thing.

ancient surge
glad stratus
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aight

olive coyote
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Lads, I've reached the monolith, does this mean I've beaten the campaign?

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What should I do from here? I'm currently level 62.

hard basalt
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what's the last thing you beat in campaign?

olive coyote
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The observer.

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Then the game tell me it's time to play around with the monolith.

south moat
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Yes, you've beaten what's available in the campaign so far

olive coyote
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That mean this is the endgame right?

hard basalt
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yep it's monolith time now

olive coyote
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Mhmm..

hard basalt
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then empowered mono

south moat
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Yes, monoliths are the end game indeed

olive coyote
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Ohh, so I still need to clear a bunch of monolith maps, before reaching emp mono yea?

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Should I start doing CoF for items now? Or I should wait till I reach em mono.

south moat
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You could start CoF yes
Hope you already joined it back when you could

olive coyote
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Yep, I had.. I didn't touch it until now.

short vessel
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man i kinda wish uniques appeared less in nemesis

twin forge
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Anyone got advice for farming beast weapons quickly? I'm trying to farm out spirit xylems

coral isle
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does anyone remember when is the last idol slot quest in the campaign? I finished chapter 7 and I am at 7/8, every single resource either does not mention the full list of quest or contains list for 15 quests, which I understand is out of date as I remember having 15 quests for this 2 years ago

twin forge
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Finishing a dungeon is the easiest way

coral isle
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any dungeon?

twin forge
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Any

coral isle
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thank you

twin forge
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As soon as you walk out the back of the door at the end after boss you will get 2 skill and 2 idol slots

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Make sure you leave dungeon thru the door tho

coral isle
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noted

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thanks

strange yoke
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anyone else experiencing horrible lag spikes frequently in aussie servers?

steep hill
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When I pick the unmatched storms node in my storm totem tree, It doestn do anything. Like my totems just sits there doing nothing

civic aspen
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how do I force self-cast an ability?

steep hill
spare cosmos
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if i buy an item from the merchants guild, does that item become a faaction item which i cannot resell?

hard basalt
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yes

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reselling isn't a thing here

latent acorn
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Ballista is so fun compared to the two button builds I’ve played before

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I hate rune of corruption tho that thing is evil, turned a key item of mine into abysmal garbage

short vessel
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wtf

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leveled to 100

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got a massive burst of ward

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i'm a health based primalist

ancient surge
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You say that as if hitting level 100 gave you a burst of ward? Needs more detail.

short vessel
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yes that is what i said

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i got a burst of 2k+ ward when i leveled from 99 to 100

brazen kernel
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bonjour a tous

ancient surge
deft crater
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hi, am i the only one having this weird bug: when i interract with a merchant he/she only sales one item. I have to log out, log back in to sometimes fixing it

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if the bug occurs all merchants, in area only sale one item

cobalt nymph
hard basalt
deft crater
dull pumice
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good morning from Mississippi. First time leveling a sentinel, using the maxroll build guide. {i'm learning} This guy is very tanky with health regen.

fossil robin
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Which echo is right of Rampant Coast? It's the last one i'm missing

hard basalt
fossil robin
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aaah okay

steep hill
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does skill level +2 only increase the number of points i can spend in the skills skill tree or also its "base damage"?

hard basalt
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only the number of points

steep hill
wheat pulsar
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Is it true, that you can sacrifice corrupted item to reroll uniques in gauntlets of strife, and does corrupted affix count ?

ember wolf
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hey, is it allowed to use macros?

night marten
rugged gale
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Man, this Lightning based Bladedancer build I’m trying is quite fun.

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Though it’s a bit weird that the base damage is using Shuriken, but I don’t think Shadows can clone a melee attack.

night marten
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some they can...like shadow cascade

rugged gale
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Ah, I guess it makes sense due to the fact that it’s a “Lightning Chakram” build lol

steep river
rugged gale
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Hmm, maybe once I get towards endgame I’ll pivot to Shadow Cascade

ember wolf
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guys you really need to fix the dancing strike bug that you just can't move anymore, really frustrating bug..

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like i cant even leave the map cause i cant reach the portal xd

olive coyote
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Guys, does anyone know what is the "Fractured Omens" quest in the ancient era? I can't find it anywhere on the map.

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It exists as a side quest icon on my map.

south moat
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echo chain

olive coyote
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Oh, I see.. so I'll run into it eventually?

south moat
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You should, yes

glass dew
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the chance of legendary potential scales with item rarity right?

undone wave
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Each item has its own LP level

glass dew
undone wave
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This item says Effective level for Legendary Potential: 70

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Then it lists the odds of rolling each LP

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The higher the effective level for LP, the harder it is to roll LP on it

glass dew
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i got 1LP 4 so you are telling me i won the lotery?

undone wave
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Depends on what you got it on lol

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LP4 in general is pretty lottery worthy yeah

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But some items will have better odds to roll LP4 than others due to their effective LP level

south moat
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I got 4LP Ring of the Third Eye
Think I just threw it in the stash
it would make a decent lvling ring but eh

undone wave
#

It's not entirely based on rarity is the point, because items like Exsanguinous is pretty rare, yet it only has an LP level of 35

glass dew
undone wave
#

Getting LP4 on that is pretty big because that's the LB build catalyst

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One of the more popular mage builds

glass dew
#

lol

undone wave
#

Time to reroll lightning blast lol

south moat
#

You got a 4LP enigma? Sheesh
lucky

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Well, it's only 1 in 7789 so ... doable? I guess

glass dew
#

yes i sent you SS, but i play erasing strike so... xd

south moat
#

Well, it can always stay in the stash or something
Tempt you for another build later, possibly

rugged gale
#

Ok, nearly double.

south moat
undone wave
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1 in 8192 in the older games, then they changed it to 1 in 4096 in gen 6+

shrewd moon
#

whats the current meta farms? is it just that beast echo?

deep swallow
#

can somebody help me to get to lvl 49 with my rouge?

rugged gale
shrewd moon
#

legit do like 2 omens in campaign and get a t7 weapon lol

midnight moss
#

Does crystalised heart beasts have a higher chance to drop primordial uniques? from the vendor?

carmine arch
#

so armor means nothing I think. I am at -12% and am able to face tank some things or I die but at 80% I can tank less... and just die??

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no difference really

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downed uber with -12% armor but yet when I was at 80% I still got oneshoted xD

rugged gale
#

You can substitute Armor for another form of defense like Evasion or Glancing Blows or Block.

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Or Ward

undone wave
#

real chads stack threshold

rugged gale
#

And I’m pretty sure Armor has a maximum effective limit

hard basalt
#

yeah, 85%

steel bear
#

Any build suggestions that can take down Uber Abby without the build needing Uber Abby items lol

carmine arch
#

my point is... armor does nothing in this game

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I am still taking hits and not dying or I get one shot by the same things I normally would die to anyway with max defense

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basically the enemy dmg needs to be tweaked because its either oneshots or nothing at all

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running both 80% and -12% results in the same deaths.

rugged gale
#

It’s not really damage that needs to be tuned. You could be taking damage that isn’t mitigated by Armor

undone wave
#

The only damage that isnt mitigated by armor is DoT

rugged gale
#

So you need 2 layers of defense, or more.

carmine arch
#

so I guess dots need fixed? idk, I feel more tanky with -12% armor

severe socket
#

DoT defense needs to be the same as other sources, without flooding the affix pool.

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It's already bloated enough as is.

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I'd even say way too flooded.

undone wave
#

Problem with that is, that behaviour will be the same with player inflicted DoT, which is already weak in its current state

severe socket
#

Too much stuff that's either way too niche/specific or makes zero sense in context.

undone wave
#

If you make armor mitigate DoT, it would nerf player DoT even harder than it already is

severe socket
#

I love Guild Wars 2's affix pool. It's simple and straightforward.

young gulch
#

I was banned today for no aparent reason, I am a recent player, highly invested in the game and this happens! Message support !support but no reply yet! Why did this happen and how long to get it resolved! This is my first time every getting banned in an online game!!!

severe socket
#

Context?

main frigate
carmine arch
#

play falconer

carmine arch
#

1k corruption

shut shard
main frigate
#

....Banned accounts go to here to ask why is an unusual and frequent phenomenon here recently

undone wave
shut shard
severe socket
#

Armor shred is a useful stat to have when going the crit route.

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Or so I think...

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I don't even know anymore.

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Sometimes it seems that whatever I do is always wrong.

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Especially in LE.

shut shard
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Don't worry it's not you, it's the game. Half of it doesn't work and the other half doesn't work as intended

severe socket
#

...I don't know.

undone wave
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Every time I teleport out of ubberoth's slam, and still die anyway, an angel gets its wings

hard basalt
#

so it's actually a win there too

rugged gale
#

Or… Player Damage and Mob Damage could just work on different mechanics/scales?

hard basalt
#

it could but that's a new can of worms

severe socket
#

And there's already way too many of them.

shut pollen
#

Servers shitting the bed?

willow sentinel
#

Litterally just logged in

shut pollen
#

couldnt zone now everything a tad slow or smth idk

weak radish
#

the difference in builds are pretty funny, my very geared swarmblade does 30k crits while a naked lvl 100 rogue does 20 mil x)

frosty ridge
#

Newer stuff will also be op

carmine smelt
frosty ridge
hard basalt
#

new mage skill season 5: conjure falcon

vivid dust
#

is memories of the observer bad

carmine smelt
#

Birb drops meteor, does 10x damage and uses meteor tree

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Thank me later

shut shard
#

you can make up your own mind why this keeps happening if an hour or two with a calculator could if not fix it perfectly then help remove 90% of the most gross imbalance

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like some skills should not have 25x more damage in their trees while others barely get 2x more

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especially when these high multiplier skills also tend to do a lot of hits per cast/per second

shut shard
#

or as they say in English when hell freezes over

shut shard
weak radish
shut shard
#

some more examples of completely asinine skill tree design from mage, meteor has a point tax for fall speed, skill not sucking to use should really be the baseline (especially since long fall delay would make at least a bit of sense in Harbinger builds.. but Harbinger has a fall speed buff built in)

Fireball has a node that prevents extra projectiles and gives you more damage - except that it's a lot less more damage than adding extra projectiles, which you also need to invest points into, you are literally paying points to nerf yourself

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lightning blast and fireball have channeling nodes that are paying points to severely nerf yourself

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fireball has a partial transformation in its tree and the second part of the transformation on a unique, combined they still do less than a lot of other skills' transformations do for one point investment

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nearly everything in Snap freeze tree is pointless or overnerfed or both

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teleport has basically a do nothing tree now that the one good thing in it got nerfed into the ground

undone wave
#

Snap freeze in general seems completely worthless

shut shard
#

you are literally no better off if you spec teleport as opposed to using it unspecced

marsh scaffold
#

spec'd tele is just a bit of ward

shut shard
#

damn I just realized I could go over literally every mage skill and point out crippling flaws and noob traps

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ain't got time for this

#

devs ignored this feedback for 6 years now, why should I care either

shut shard
#

although what do I expect shaman still has 4 skills and its fifth skill isn't on the roadmap either

#

rogue took what 5 years to get its missing skills and it's also still missing one

primal juniper
#

quick question, for uniques with legenmdary potential can you change the craft later? or once decision is made its not reversable

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?

digital fog
#

Falconer was if i recall Judd's "idea" for D3 back in the day (it was part of some sort community pitch ideas for class) . It's surprising that falconer is the class that stays Uber abby killer season after season.

shut shard
shut shard
main frigate
#

Community pitch ideas, what is that

languid rover
#

yea, good luck getting feedback across

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im waiting for CoF rework since s1

simple bison
#

Tbf there's a ton of things that majority of players would hate even if it's good for the game as a whole

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once you give something to players they'll hate seeing it be taken away even if it was bad for the game

languid rover
shut shard
simple bison
shut shard
languid rover
shut shard
#

if anything they should have nerfed the FP of lower tier items so that the first 80-85% of your gearing isn't completely trivial, while adding extra FP on top of endgame exalts so that they can be more competitive with legendaries

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like I shouldn't be decked out in full t20 relevant stat gear by the time I'm hitting normal monos, and likewise my exalt farmed in 1000 corr should not brick after crafting on it twice

languid rover
#

im not upset about the nerf, im upset they made a system, which is now completely useless, , so, why is the system in the game when it does nothing? could have spent that ´´development time´´ on fixing bugs instead

wispy notch
#

I really enjoy mage / sorc and keep coming back to it, usually playing concept characters rather than meta builds.
But you can really see how some of the older skill trees have issues, with skill point taxes or designs that don't work in actual gameplay.

shut shard
languid rover
#

and the funny thing is, the corruption doesnt even scale your drops

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like i see a once in a blue moon double T7 drop,. i look at it, 38 FP

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like yea good luck using it for anything

#

its actually just sad

shut shard
simple bison
#

Imo if you don't account for corruption runes which are dope I still think 0.9.2 was the best itemization has been in LE

languid rover
shut shard
simple bison
#

Imo factions actually made itemization worse because yeah they give you tons of items sure but the crazy friction is more annoying than the extra items are satisfying

languid rover
simple bison
#

Hopefully with the changes in season 5 I'll change my mind

languid rover
#

look in item showcase what i managed to random corrupt 🙂

wispy notch
#

I just wish we could place normal items into nemesis eggs and get exalted items with a specific base out from it.

simple bison
#

Like to me both trading and prophecies are more like "ugh I gotta do this again" than something I'm excited for x)

shut shard
# languid rover i said imprints should have been the CoF mechanic, and not what it is now, like ...

I wrote up a very similar idea in suggestions at least twice, years ago, and I can't be bothered writing it out again in detail. But lenses should give you a lot more targeted drops, but they should require more build up/refinement by continuously imprinting them with items similar to what you want to be targeting. Needless to say I wouldn't hold my breath that anything like this would ever be implemented for COF

simple bison
#

I mean maybe that's what this nerf is leading up to

shut shard
simple bison
#

they already said prophecies are getting somewhat reworked

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(I have no more information than anyone else don't read into my words lul)

languid rover
#

i heard they plan to make new content not playable on legacy chars? like if they actually go trough with that this game is over anyway

#

so what they do not doesnt matter

simple bison
#

Nah

shut shard
simple bison
#

They just said they might start rotating content

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so the game doesn't become cluttered

shut shard
#

like how many years did it take them to change the duplicate icons? And some of them still duplicate lol

#

go on, tell me the difference between a 1h and 2h sword icon at a glance, or 1h and 2h axe

wispy notch
#

But at the end of the day, the game remains fun to play. Advantage of playing CoF and going at my own pace is that I don't care what other players are doing. If I have to address my own performance at sub 300 corruption while others oneshot uber abby that doesn't really matter to me.

simple bison
#

Yea I just play CoF and chill

shut shard
simple bison
#

Meh, I actually think mono's are close to capacity content wise, if they were to add more permanent content I'd want it to go wide not deep

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Maybe they'll finally rework arena and make it actual content lmao

wispy notch
simple bison
#

and start doing dungeons again with procedural generation

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instead of everything just being thrown into the monolith system

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Like If I could go MG and do something that'd be the equivelant to delving or heisting in LE and just sell the exclusive loot from that and buy my gear I'd be so down for that

latent acorn
#

Monoliths are frankly kind of tedious, there’s nothing to do except for them and I wish there was more

simple bison
#

yep I agree

shut shard
wispy notch
#

And I'd rather see specialized systems with a way to exclude / opt in to relevant mechanics over rotations. So if they keep nemesis as the egg / LP grind, then a low-unique build can exclude nemesis from their gameplay loop.

fiery spruce
#

anted to ask, anyone having issue with temporal sanctum dungeon every few times(keys) its just goes into infinite loading and the disconnects. and I ahve to restart the game otherwise it never loads

shut shard
#

also monos don't feel empty because they previously had to shrink most echo maps by like 80%+ to make them feel less empty

simple bison
#

I do think they could go harder on the weaver tree with more game altering nodes

shut shard
wispy notch
#

Agreed, weaver tree is a decent starting point for a meta-system.

hard basalt
#

state of weaver echoes is so silly

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there's so many useless ones that your inventory is full of those WEs you'd never bother running

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at the same time no one bothers with the WE recycling echo because... there's so much trash in the pool it'd just turn into more trash anyway

errant sundial
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i bother with the reweave!

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even if turning in 36 useless ones gets me nothing but 2 useful ones

weak radish
#

i need to file a complain, this game is not drunk friendly

errant sundial
#

i appreciate that the game gives you options on how and what to farm

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but the difference in value between the diff echoes varies wildly

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and ofc ARPG players will always gravitate to the ones that yield the best reward per time spent

simple jolt
#

wdym, there's beer in the game afteral

shut shard
#

at the very least it's laughable that they didn't update most of the weaver echoes to include the new mechanics as well, like the great bridge will have a nemesis encounter but never a rift or an omen

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and I'm sure a lot of them can't even have nemesis either

ember wolf
#

for the love of god, pls fix the bugs, 10 times today I lose a map because I cant move or do anything because of dancing strike bug and now im stuck in the bone chest in rift beast domain. Like i love the game but im about to rq xDD

deep halo
#

Reeeee

unique drum
#

Wtb passive in weaver tree that reads something like "randomly evolve rift beast, never be teleported to cave. Final beast drops 30% less items"

#

And whats up with the servers today. Been lagging bad. Just me?

night marten
#

i have no no issues with the server today

unique drum
subtle idol
#

Witchfire build seems bad. even with a TONN of damned and ignite chance + the unique relic im still only ticking for 150-200k dmg. meanwhile my Warpath friend hitting constant 1 million dmg +

iron olive
#

what is the ssf mode

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in this game

night marten
# iron olive what is the ssf mode

well there are a couple kinds.

you can pick either SCF(character found) or SAF(accounr found)

there is also the CoF faction, where you get bonuses to your specific drops

umbral plume
#

Its such a pain getting good exalted items now, I still dont understand the imprinting nerf

willow sentinel
#

Its also a warpath issue imo

night marten
#

you not liking it, is a bit different than not wanting to understand

umbral plume
night marten
#

getting a multi exalt should be rare, no something planned or expected

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as the devs have said multiple times at this point

umbral plume
#

I guess loosing 2/3 players withing 2 weeks was worth it, even previous seasons did not have that insane palyer drop off

hexed coral
#

i imprinted a single exalt and tbh I saw more red rings drop from imprints this season than my single T7 exalt with t1 t1 t2 mods

night marten
#

its been 3 weeks. you are allowed to go play other things if you are tired of LE. it is ok. its not just because of the imprints

hexed coral
#

even PoE

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the goal is a high count day 1-2-3

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week 2 is always 75% less players lol

night marten
#

like s3 in LE dropped off in like, 4 days

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not weeks

umbral plume
night marten
#

oh god here we go

hexed coral
#

I dont pretend to know the implications of stuff like that

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I just

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want

#

fun game

umbral plume
#

Same

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And every season is making it less fun for me 🤷‍♂️

hexed coral
#

ya so I have nothing to say about that stuff tbh

night marten
#

then maybe LE isnt you for

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and thats ok

umbral plume
#

Sure thats okay, but people being silent about that does not help either, silence kills games

hexed coral
#

I just give feedback on what im seeing and thats it. Like for imprints, nerfing 7/7/6 exalts, all good, nerfing red rings all good. But I think the nerf hit SINGLE T7s a bit too hard, as I see almost the same amount of single T7s as red rings from imprints which is a bit crazy

#

but thats also my anecdote

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maybe the data suggests its balanced and im just an unlucky af outlier lmao

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idk

umbral plume
#

Nah, imprint drops are awful

strong haven
#

Man im having fun doing endgame i don't wanna go back and do the campaign but I have to

night marten
#

being silent is a problem sure. having really bad reasons for not liking it as reasons tho isnt much better

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the game was unbalanced, players had insanely high expectations, the devs fixed it

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that didnt make all the players leave

umbral plume
#

I mean, give me one reason then why it was a good change for COF players, getting good consistent loot is bad?

night marten
#

you being bored isnt just cuz of the imprints.

umbral plume
#

I mean mostly it is, if you compare loot this season and previous one, its awful

night marten
#

now you actually have to interact with all the mechanics, instead of just one. it balanced the game

umbral plume
#

There is no drive to continue farming, I feel like im hunting T0 drops from POE

night marten
#

which isnt just cuz of imprints. its cuz there isnt enough to do and to chase

#

its not just exalts

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you can farm amazing gear even without it

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the mechanics age super fast and get stale

#

thats not exalt imprints

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you just have to have normal game expectations that arent 2t7+ on gear

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thats not a bad thing

umbral plume
#

Chasing good exalts for 3LP slams was like 80% of endgame for me and I'd say many players, its what kept me playing for almost a month, exalted items are so rare now that its not even worth the hassle to try to stay in

night marten
#

corruption added insane amounts of power creep to the game. you dont need multi exalts to do anything

umbral plume
#

There is basically 0 content after a week

#

now

night marten
#

yeah. thats the actual problem

#

exalt farming ISNT content.

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its the same content

#

they need more. which takes time

umbral plume
#

And the only content there was is now gone, so nerfing them did not fix anything, it only made things worse

hexed coral
#

I mean, sorta, I do think there should be a somewhat deterministic way of getting giga gear with high investment (in LE ig thats just time as opposed to currency with PoE). Ideally, the devs balance around CoF, because in every game with a trade league/faction, trade will ALWAYS make high end gear more accessible, because you can just farm and buy it. If they balance for trade we are cooked.

umbral plume
frosty ridge
#

the problem with cof is all the “kill x diamond matrons” need to go. also fishing for props needs to go. Just let people select the exact one they want

umbral plume
#

Its even worse that you first need to get your unique with enough LP first and then farm good exalted items, that is now 3x worse than it was

#

And its not making players play 3x longer than they used to, its causing frustration to many of us, its obvious from the feedback

hexed coral
#

I mean I think you nerf what needs to be nerfed with CoF in mind, and however trade gets affected, the market will correct itself. But if you nerf with trade in mind, there is no way for CoF to "correct" because its a solo game mode, so you just cook everyone who plays CoF.

#

trade will always be easier to get items

#

see poe

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valdo farming is not an SSF activity

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its a trade league thing

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same with builds that use mageblood

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or svallin

night marten
hexed coral
#

or any other t0

#

those are trade builds

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and you wouldnt ever play those builds in SSF bec you will NEVER see that gear

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if EHG wants to cook their game, they would balance based on trade league builds, and then we are cooked

umbral plume
night marten
#

its only causing frustration for people that expect to have 2t7+ slams on everything. that is not what is supposed to happen. you arent supposed to be wearing multiple lottery ticket type gear.

night marten
#

of course. its just an echo chamber. you arent ever going to hear people compliment

#

compliments dont get attention

#

complaining does

umbral plume
#

Yes, but you shouldnt look at that they quit, but WHY they quit and what you can do to NOT make them quit next time

hexed coral
#

Eagles, I do think it less of an expectation, and more of a way to naturally progress, it just raises the potential ceiling of a build, even if it is rare, its still POSSIBLE and you could possibly see your build reach a new level of power. Which ARPGs are THE genre for power fantasy

night marten
#

getting multi exalt gear isnt going to make people stay.

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it didnt make them stay in s3

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at all

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which had a worse drop off

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faster drop off

hexed coral
#

yeah that argument is moot can we move on

umbral plume
#

3-4x as many players xd

hexed coral
#

moot

#

its not about players

#

and you know it

#

its about being able to see your build be powerful

frosty ridge
#

I don’t think people left because of double t7 nerfs lol. For most people the game ends at empowered lol

night marten
#

s3 did not have 3-4x times the players. lmao

hexed coral
#

its not about players

umbral plume
#

Yeah okay thats my bad, it was S2. I did enjoy s3 somewhat tho

hexed coral
#

its about wanting a way to squeeze in more damage

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and not feeling capped by superficial limitations

umbral plume
#

In S2/S3 I made 3+ builds, now im tired even after making one because I know it will be tedious to get all the good gear I need/want

hexed coral
#

theoretical gear should be attainable through deep investment. Statistically impossible gear should be a lottery ticket (4LP red ring is statistically impossible)

#

but

#

also

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possible

#

like look up the chance of dropping a mirror in PoE

#

statistically impossible

#

yet

#

hundreds are found each league

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bc 100k+ players are playing for a long time

umbral plume
night marten
#

s3 started at 80k. in 2 weeks it was at 20k

s4 started at 40k. in 2 weeks its at 20k

the imprints you say make people stay, did not, the player numbers are proof. s3 had your multi exalt imprints...double the player loss.

#

s4 has more retention tho

hexed coral
#

I mean s3 was a stinker tho

#

s2 would be a better benchmark

night marten
#

nothing you are saying is accurate. its false info to try to make your opinion better

frosty ridge
night marten
#

s2 also lost over half in 2 weeks, 150k to 65k

#

this is NORMAL LE timelines

frosty ridge
#

right but the intial players were higher because a lot of content creators tried it to see what the game was about

night marten
#

and people keep trying to use it as proof their opinion is right. its just normal LE decay

frosty ridge
#

then they made up their minds lol

night marten
#

until they get enough content to sustain more than 2 weeks...and until they actually balance some of their builds (falcon 4 seasons in a row)

#

this is all its gonna be

frosty ridge
#

yeah most people will quit once you hit empowered

night marten
#

shit most people dont even get to empowered. lol

frosty ridge
#

true lol level 80ish

#

75-80 id assume

umbral plume
#

And campaign getting longer and longer also does not help it lol

night marten
#

yeah

#

but they do need to finish it

#

i dont mind the optional knowledge point thing they did

umbral plume
#

If I could get rid of 1 thing from ARPGs, its campaign

night marten
#

kinda lets you pick how to level

umbral plume
#

Its fun first few times. Doing it 50th time in 37th season, no thanks

frosty ridge
#

your best bet is to just play whatever they just released char or ability wise because its a safe bet it'll be op and easy to gear wont need 2t7 everywhere

#

kill uber with just 1 lp everywhere lol

umbral plume
#

Its not like there are hundreds of builds for new spells, its not that hard to catch outliners

frosty ridge
#

its every game. whatever is the lastest skill/char will always be overtuned other wise people wont play the season. its just marketing

umbral plume
#

Nahhh

frosty ridge
#

they adverstised new rogue skills. both op lol

umbral plume
#

LE and D4 okay, but D2R, POE, PD2 and many more its not true

hexed coral
#

I wouldnt say bladestorm is OP

#

its just good

frosty ridge
hexed coral
#

where as mage is just bad

#

its strong

#

thats a good thing

umbral plume
#

And I would KINDA understand it if its paid DLC, to make people buy it you know

hexed coral
#

its not OP tho

frosty ridge
#

and super easy to gear

hexed coral
#

its not blade vortex minion pact

#

lol

frosty ridge
#

gear to payoff is easy

hexed coral
#

yeah thats how league starters should be

#

thats kinda the idea

#

its OP if it can kill all harbingers and regular abberoth in magic gear

#

then its OP

umbral plume
#

And im SO tired of falconer already, if you want good nuke, aoe, speed its always to go class

hexed coral
#

bc the base scaling would be off

#

if it requires single LP T7s, and maybe some easy to get LP2 and 3s like peak of the mountain etc. thats just a good league starter bc it doesnt require chase items

#

thats not OP thats intended

#

if a class SUCKS with LP1 T7s, then its just a badly balanced class ahem mage cough

night marten
umbral plume
#

im tided boss gif

hexed coral
#

tbh I dont care if falconer is really good. I just want the class/mastery im playing to not be trash

#

normalize buffs over nerfs

#

real shit

umbral plume
night marten
#

yeah, everyone is tired of falconer

hexed coral
#

if something is killing uber with magic/rare gear yes nerf it (I played that rogue spec s2 lmao)

#

but buff the bad classes pls

umbral plume
#

Builds need nerfs, some builds need to be killed off

hexed coral
#

nah

#

thats bad game design

#

change my mind

#

killing builds is killing your game

#

see ward builds

#

ward is shit

#

after they gutted it

#

nobody plays ward builds

lost garden
#

qq what is the best way to farm double t7 exaults? prophecy helps but whatelse?

hexed coral
#

bc they dont exist

night marten
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while i agree, if the same class has been op since release, for 4 seasons, and the devs dont seem able to balance it. it needs to be nuked and redone.

hexed coral
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again depends on the definition of OP

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if it kills uber in rare gear yes

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insta phases with LP1s

umbral plume
hexed coral
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yes

lost garden
night marten
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yes, and falcon has done that since uber was a thing.

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and abby before that

hexed coral
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but if its just the strongest build to push corruption and kill uber with good LP2s, some LP1 rare gear etc. then its just strong

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yeah

night marten
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before s3's insane powercreep, and s4's even worse power creep

hexed coral
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I played the s2 insta phasing umbral falconer thing

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with wings of talon

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it was OP

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for sure

umbral plume
hexed coral
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id rather have 3 builds that are OP af than 1 that is OP and gets nerfed

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so they should buff some

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as a prio

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and then nerf what is too OP

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like the shadow rend vid I saw lmao

umbral plume
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Every season, its been leaguestart falconer to farm gear for the build I actually want to play, because you are not gear dependant, you can push corruption with trash items and you are guaranteed boss kills

lost garden
hexed coral
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ive played slayer the last 4 PoE league starts

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bc slayer is bomb af

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and they dont nerf it

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bc its not OP and the highest end builds arent slayer lol

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some are

frosty ridge
hexed coral
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LE has a build diversity problem

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not ENOUGH builds are good

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the problem isnt falconer being OP

lost garden
hexed coral
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its that everything else is trash in comparison

umbral plume
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LE is probably the only game where I used to prefer SSF because of how good and chill it was

frosty ridge
umbral plume
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Now i dont even know

night marten
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eh, LE small amount of content creator problem. which makes it a very 'same ol same ol meta' when there are tons of fun builds to play, it just takes someone with reach to make it popular

fossil wolf
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I just use what I find fun. I made hail of arrows work last season.

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Just took a bit to kill Uber.

umbral plume
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Oh well that were my 2 pennies worth of feedback. See yall next league, hopefully. If they actually add content and make drops exciting again

fossil wolf
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Speaking of hail of arrows I got a nicely rolled dragonsong from omen rift..

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Should switch lol.

#

Can't get anything with throwing or cold damage to save my god darned life.

frosty ridge
fossil wolf
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Only melee build I did last night was the slam vk

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And my build was mad squishy till I got ravenous. Was miserable lol.

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Uber looked at me wrong I died

short vessel
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personally

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i just see rogue eating a massive share of dev time while being OP every season

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while primalist is clunky asf

frosty ridge
fallow violet
#

Anyone facing random character freeze issue with Shadow Cascade Bladedancer ??

willow sentinel
#

We'll just have to wait for shaman 5th rework and Tempest Strike 9th iteration to be able to play them

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That's fine

fringe lotus
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When using a rune of removal on an item, is it most likely to remove the lowest tiers first? For instance is it most likely to remove a T1 affix before a T5?

fossil wolf
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I mean Diablo just left paladin in its broken ass state so meh.

frosty ridge
night marten
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paladin hype

shut shard
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it's all about balance at this point, not the itemization

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if your class is so busted you can speedrun from character creation to uber in 8 hours it's not a problem of imprints, or COF, or anything else really

shut shard
# short vessel while primalist is clunky asf

and let's not even bring up mage, the only class worse off than primalist. I already ranted about every single mage skill being deeply flawed and full of either useless nodes that nerf you or noob traps that don't even work as expected/advertised

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but I admit that not all mage skills are as bad as tempest strike, only 5 or 6 of them

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which is.. well..

frosty ridge
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this was the mage season lol thats all yall get apparently lol

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meanwhiles rogues get a one frame kill on uber

fossil wolf
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I was doing 100s of billions of damage lol

shut shard
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except that core problems of spellblade are still largely unaddressed

frosty ridge
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yes thats all you get apparently

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lol

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meanwhile you know the paladin stuff next season will be busted

shut shard
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paladin's stuff is already busted this season isn't it

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oh let me hear them qq about it

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only HALF of our builds are busted! The other half is merely extremely good!

frosty ridge
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yes lol thats why i play sentinel. the dev team loves them their vk

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and paladin

short vessel
#

actually just too clunky

shut shard
short vessel
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on a skill that has way too many garbage point barriers

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and primalist is just built that it needs to maintain 3 different stack counts to scale anything

shut shard
frosty ridge
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look on the birght side. at least you aren't trying to play swipe werebear

short vessel
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hey at least you have a decent answer to mana issues

shut shard
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the two shit classes brawling in the mud for the anti-crown of the shittiest

shut shard
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it's insulting enough that the devs apparently think that way even without having to deal with its pis s poor range, area, hitbox, and animation

short vessel
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hey man at least you get melee range scaling with weapon reach

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:L

shut shard
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ew swipe

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still a staple of 90% builds

night marten
novel locust
#

Does Imprinting an Exiled Mage exclusive drop do anything

short vessel
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assuming you mean uniques, no

night marten
#

you can get the base type, and if it has leg affixes.

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but the unique itself is not

fossil wolf
#

Didn't they nerf imprinting?

primal wolf
night marten
short vessel
broken trench
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it's still very good

fossil wolf
#

Wasn't responding to anyone was a general question because I barely understood the notes.

short vessel
#

well imprints proc half as often

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double exalts are about 14x as rare on top of that

fossil wolf
#

I.. Didn't know when they proc before so doubt I'll notice.

short vessel
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and there's a scaling amount of decreased proc rates for rarer uniques, up to about 5x rarer for 98% reroll chance stuff like red ring

night marten
#

legit asking

short vessel
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it's from the guy who did got data for frost's imprint notes sheet

short vessel
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actually

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lol

night marten
#

interesting, i have not seen that video

short vessel
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oh that's his old video

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i mean

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the one that went over imprint mechanics in general

carmine arch
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did uber 10 times and the 10th time he completely changed his move set on me

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and dropped zero clear orbs

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he just does his own thing

radiant portal
#

Hi guys !
Does anyone have the issue with the adorned idols being deactivated after a weaver's touch ?

short vessel
#

er

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no i haven't had that

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what exactly are you meaning

radiant portal
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Hmm, I'm using an Ocular Altar and I put some idols here
And when a weaver's touch happens and upgrade one of my idols, it then disable it
Saying "Your idol altar limit the use of this type"

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There's only one of it

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So..

silent pivot
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unequip all your idols except that one

short vessel
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does your altar have "heretical idol limit" on it

silent pivot
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equip them one at a time until the adorned idol deactivates

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and you'll see where the problem is

radiant portal
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Can I drop a screen here ?

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Or is there a specific channel ?

short vessel
radiant portal
#

Okay, i'll do that

grizzled siren
#

is it normal practice to shift your build to zero hp pure dps around 600 corruption since everything is like 7k+ damage hits against you?

short vessel
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depends on the class and the tools available

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for rogue

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yes

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for something like primalist

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no

grizzled siren
#

disapointing

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but makes sense

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one-shots are lazy ballance philosophy

steel mesa
#

well that happens with a infinitely scaling endgame. I don't think 600c is like that tho? that hasn't been my experience at least. it's usually around 1000+ where I feel my defenses becoming pointless.

thorn bane
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i agree more like after 1k corruption is where one shots happen more frequent (obviously dont tank everything, there are indicators for huge hits). at 600c its more of build issue, if you are purely focused on offense. gotta get more defensive layers and balance out your character

noble vale
#

Does corruption level affect omen veil loot

broken trench
#

yes

noble vale
#

thanks

azure iron
#

Connection issues anyone?

native surge
fossil wolf
balmy flint
novel locust
#

I can use my rune complex drop once I've imprinted it right? It stays imprinted?

short vessel
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yup

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but obv you'll be left without one if you want to swap it out

novel locust
#

Playing Jav Paladin not really expecting to want anything else there tbh lol

thorn bane
#

yea so when you make a new character rip, took me forever to find another rune prison 🙁

onyx flame
#

next season patch "pause during nemesis" all we need

hard inlet
#

We most certainly need a lot more than that

hard basalt
#

current pause is funny too

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press escape and it pauses

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open the settings menu from there and the game unpauses 🤣

sturdy anchor
#

doing campaign skip first time the latter leading to the Temporal Sanctum dungeon this can only be used if you have already done temporal sanctum so im lost. im tryna do chapter 5 - 9 skip

hard basalt
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yeah it assumes you have dropped a key for there somewhere during campaign

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or on an alt

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otherwise you'd just have to continue on with the campaign

sturdy anchor
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no i mean how do i get to the sanctum is mainly what i mean

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also is it best to just go all the wayt through then? or try for akey?

real steppe
#

thsi graveyard prison exiled mage bug sucks the ass, they dont even seem to spawn at all with point in it

ebon rain
#

could somebody help me kill uber abberoth

hard basalt
#

fullpage prophecy dropped one double T7 POG

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Aand it's bricked. 15 FP for one havoc 💀

deft crater
#

it's the only imprint that really works atm with the really low level unique, forget about the rest

subtle sandal
#

is Farsight Turtle woven very rare? Haven't seen one yet

fleet moth
#

this game has essentially been in EA since 2019 wtf is going on

hard basalt
fiery flame
#

hey, whats the state of the game right now?

severe socket
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Depends on whom you ask...

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For me, it's largely the same as it was. Some new stuff, some reworks here and there, but nothing major.

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Still the same war with bugs too, I guess.

balmy arrow
pliant coral
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Again teleported by Balthas into the void and i starting to wonder, why as rogue i can't just take that Epoch shards and stab all mfkers with pointy end?

pliant coral
latent sequoia
#

sheesh what a clusterfuck is fractured prison.. could there be anymore ground effects stacked on top of each other

nocturne tinsel
#

guys if i cast smite with multistrike will smite get dmg bonuses from multi tree as well?

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i mean the extra swords converted to smite

willow sentinel
nocturne tinsel
#

thanks vlad

willow sentinel
#

1 runic prison with doubled mages

south moat
#

Where did they keep all them spoons 🤔

paper isle
#

Otherwise you could die at the end and really farm spoons easily

willow sentinel
#

You dont get the uniques drops

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I died in one of them

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Came back to do it again

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Not a single mage unique

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And just leaving does the same

steel mesa
#

Yeah I've tried farming it like that (leaving before it cleared) and it doesn't drop a single unique

willow sentinel
#

Can we say I got to 1k ?

novel comet
#

maybe Gregory

willow sentinel
novel comet
#

ripped my shuriken and synchronized strike peak of the mountain 🙁

whole spire
#

hey all looking a little help - on C300+ for a while now and have yet to see a RUNE PRISON Woven echo drop and to this point killed 100's of mages... is there something I'm missing as I believe this one cannot be purchased - any tips how to target better

novel comet
#

i think one ice themed mono has a bigger change to spawn rune prisons (or i mightve been lucky) and i got it from one of these echo lines

willow sentinel
#

Its annoying

#

I am lvl 98, got to 1k corruption, played a good bunch this season
Only got 1

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I imprinted, got double mages and was able to run it a few times from imprint

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But still havent found a second one

novel comet
#

got lucky this season, ran tons of the mages last season got none now i sit on 3

proper hinge
#

anyone know if u combine a cast speed sentinel item on a relic, can anyone use it or do sentinel only use it?

whole spire
#

why is the feed back channel set to 50 - have just spent time to post what I considered my feed back perspective only to have it blown out for being over 50 words - serioulsy !

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please don't have a channel to encourage feedback if there is a limitation on what you can say - seems pointless and unintuitive

willow sentinel
#

There is a 50 character MINIMUM

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Not maximum

whole spire
#

mine got blown out for being over 50 just now

willow sentinel
whole spire
#

and mine met both those set of criteria

willow sentinel
#

OO

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Checking the logs, you might actually have reached the character cap

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But its not because you were 50 words +

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I think its also a discord limitation

whole spire
#

np will try again - ta for looking

willow sentinel
#

Do you want me to dm it to you ?

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So you can copy paste it

whole spire
#

its ok having another go just editing again before I post

willow sentinel
#

Post it in 5 parts omegalul

whole spire
#

Hi @willow sentinel could you DM me - apparently need Nitro to be able to post it 🙁

willow sentinel
#

Btw re reading the suggstion

willow sentinel
main frigate
#

I have used discord orbs to exchange 3-day nitro multiple times because I want to post long messages

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But I never know we can ask mod for help on that lol

carmine path
#

t7 x 4 ring 🙀

#

do they just spam corrupt these nonstop?

ember wolf
#

when will you finally adress gamebreaking bugs like getting stuck in terrain and not beeing able to move after using dancing strikes? like i lost 20 maps that last day to this bug, when you get stuck with the dancing strikes bug you cant even click portal so if there are no enemies around you have to restart the game. These kind of bugs should be highest prio. Really ruins the fun.

languid rover
languid rover
#

there are known bugs in the game for years

ember wolf
#

ye i know

languid rover
#

best thing to do is to just submit report everytime it happens with screenshots

ember wolf
#

thats why i gonna remind them every day and be annoying

ember wolf
#

the problem is you get no feedback at all, did someone see the report? do they work on the issue? when you take a look into "known bugs and issues" in the discord here it does not look like it

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it's a shame cause I do think the game is in a really good state in general atm

languid rover
#

i would like them to make imprints the CoF mechanic, because thats what it should have been from the start, but at this point, at least tweak the numbers cos this wasnt a nerf they just deleted them from the game

hard basalt
ember wolf
#

ye thats true but things like this im fine with if they revert it next season... gamebreaking bugs at the other hand should be adresses asap

hard basalt
#

never fixed and now the bug report section is just gone and the post too

#

😄

languid rover
hard basalt
#

you'd think if it really was someone's job to go through that every day (which they said was the case), it would go to known issues

ember wolf
#

but ye imprints are a joke right now, getting items with 1 t7 is possible, but i have imprinted double exhalted items since day 2 of the season and have not seen a single one

#

and I really nolifed the game this past few weeks

hard basalt
ember wolf
#

i char on 100.5 and one almost at 101 xd

#

1*

languid rover
hard basalt
ember wolf
sweet moss
#

does corruption affect prophs?

#

there was some dude yapping abt how it does and lowk im scared to pick dungeon ones now >.<

languid rover
#

max lvl dungeon is roughly 300corr drops

#

but since corruption doesnt scale pretty much anything most of the exalts u drop from proph will be t6, some t7,

#

for uniques its slightly better but yea, farming exalts from prophecies is just trolling yourself

sweet moss
#

sooooo yes c does

iron olive
#

Is it too late In the season to start playing?

languid rover
#

the season just started bro

sweet moss
#

its almost over tbh