💬┃general

[steep river]

I'm not sure what you're referring to. My server notification settings haven't changed. If you believe there's an issue, please DM @grand geyser

[ruby flume]

Ballista falconer

[coarse swallow]

I'm having a look into this, but I'm not seeing anything immediately. Is this still occuring for you?

[grim bison]

can confirm this server is popping off notifications unexpectedly today for me too

[burnt eagle]

That person left the server after that so you won't likely get a reply there. I did have the same issue (getting notifications on all the things all of a sudden), Discord (or something) had switched my server level notification preference from Only @mentions to All Messages. On desktop it was a quick Right click on the server -> notification settings -> pick what it should have been to correct it

[river kelp]

Didn't really do much last season. Any recommendations on a catch up guide to the mechanics introduced the last two cycles?

[stoic crypt]

OMG F U Nintendo they just got approved for a Patent that says that they have the right to the video game mechanic where you summon a creature to do battle for you. RIP EVERY GAME WITH NECROMANCERS WTF

[river kelp]

Patent is too broad. Will never get though a court case.

[coarse swallow]

Hmm, OK. I'll keep an eye out for any further mentions. Fingers crossed it was just a hiccup.

[strong echo]

you know what would be awesome, a wearbear skill, deep in the weabear tree that turns you into a bumblebear

[modern shoal]

could this game stop afk kicking me when im digging through my stash for a while ffs

[night marten]

thats a great #1210282176680169562

[frigid palm]

last +1 attri quest still bugged even after the "fix"?

I see others can get it while i'm still being TPed and i don't get it

[frank oracle]

Suggestion on builds? Tried VK-Warpath(corr 300+) and ShamanReflect (corr 1000+)

[thorn bane]

Mana flay lich is fast and strong. My fav out of the builds I've done so far. Lightning blast runemaster another strong contender

[naive garnet]

does anyone know when the eu servers get fixed, kinda bad to play with high ping daily

[pastel summit]

Oh, that was this server's fault? Now I gotta apologize to the other person I yelled at for that.

It happened at 8am! Some people were trying to sleep!

[nova dirge]

I got no clue what you are talking about...what's MG? What does a lot filter do to help me with getting gold?

[pastel summit]

MG is one of the item factions, merchant's guild. The filter in question highlights things you can sell to other players easily to get more gold.

[nova dirge]

Oh

[pastel summit]

I'm Circle of Fotune, so I just farm fall of the outcasts until I get the highest level gold blessing.

[nova dirge]

Which loot filter strictness do I want? What's the difference between strict and not strict?

[modern shoal]

OK, so is this afk kicking just a timer if u havent left a zone in a while?

[severe socket]

Depends on how much of a match or upgrade you want a given drop to be shown to you.

[untold heath]

I wish one of my friends would play this game so I have someone to talk to about it... using discord and talking here isn't the same

[severe socket]

Right there with you in that regard.

[untold heath]

even my online friends I know from other games all play other stuff

[severe socket]

I have no friends at all.

[untold heath]

aw

[severe socket]

It sucks, but it is what it is.

[gentle saffron]

if anyone wanna join and play let me know a new class endgame all good

[pliant coral]

Anybody also have this? Game freezes (Windows cursor and info "lastepoch.exe not responding" or something like that) for some seconds when i'm manually collecting rings from stash tabs to inventory (trying to sort uniques and put rings into one tab)

It crashed without error now xD

[worldly thorn]

Hey im new in the game any tip?

[pliant coral]

Play what you like, but if you stuck or dying often, use builds from internet

[inner finch]

Keep it simple, count your money

[lusty quarry]

use loot filter:

1. show item with affixes you want
2. hide normal/blue/rare/exalted

this way only the loot with stats you want will appear

[wise vortex]

which version of warpath is the best?

[blissful spear]

i just got 6 bloodline glades from the weaver tree in a small area

just started empowered timelines as well so

are they just that common?

[latent jacinth]

I season started with a Flay Lich Monday or something. I'm trying to decide on my next build. I love the "dash in, beat stuff up" playstyle. Thinking BM next, perhaps?

[olive lotus]

Was new 4 days ago, whish i knew that :
the game is straight forward you can just rush quest by following the circle on minimap
You can spend alot in crafting, you drop very fast rune and glyphe
when you gonna finish campaign, in monolithe take your time to read, bcs it took me two days to understand the corrupting system xd

[pearl veldt]

i plan to start my first char for this last epoch league today. any tips? (ivew played previous leagues so its more if anything big has changed that i should know going in)

[plain anchor]

played cenotaph of worlds map, reforged a couple idols at the end of map. Went back to main mono island, entered stash and realized my exalted gloves are gone. Not on ground, not in forge, not in buyback and not in any of my inventory tabs. Seems they disappeared?

[green imp]

Is there a way to see actual minion crit chance? I add idols and such but the number never goes up

[lusty quarry]

void knight with Lunge is fun

[sly zinc]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/acid-flask-rogue-guide#skills-header

[steep river]

You can try importing your character into LE Tools build planner https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ - import button on left - and checking the Minion tab. It's probably not going to include things from a minion's Skill tree though.

[latent jacinth]

That's what I did last season! Super duper fun. In fact, it's why I went with Flay, because I knew it would feel similar, haha. Great suggestion!

[latent jacinth]

Huh, interesting. I've used acid flask as a "supportive" skill with falconeer whenever they released that (was that 1.0, even?). Haven't touched it since! Perhaps something to try, indeed. ❤️

[lost vapor]

So whats the best woven echoes strat this cycle? It seems theyve made the shrines strat not work or just a lot harder to do now

[lost vapor]

fr, there's so much lacking info in our stat screens. I hope they make skill info far more detailed one of these upcoming cycles. Maybe a subscreen in each skill's specialization ui that you can open to see all the stats for that skill, as effected by any source

[sly zinc]

Highly recommend it - it's my favorite build this season. I've done Abomination Necromancer, Harvest Flay Lich, Mana Flay Lich, Reflect Shaman, Reflect Paladin, and Erasing Strike Void Knight. I keep logging on my Acid Flask Falconer

Oh - and Anurok Beastmaster

[upper sleet]

Tu quelqun qui veut jouer

[night marten]

The server is english only. Please.

If you are looking for a group try #1361743745116016780 or #👥┃lfg

[upper sleet]

Perfect sorry i speak in english too but i like french haha

Thx

[stark hamlet]

is something wrong with loot filters rn ?
I have a rule to show all items with 3LP+ or 20WW+,
and it highlights unique mage idol???

[night marten]

Yea idols got messed up

Last hotfix

[stark hamlet]

I wonder if it also hides something I do want to see....

[olive lotus]

You are new ? (i'm french but can speak in english)

[upper sleet]

No but i speak french

@olive lotus add moi sur le jeux

Dark73

[earnest escarp]

has anyone gotten a new bug where the char window opens all by itself every 20 seconds or so?

[night marten]

I have not heard of anyone getting that before

[earnest escarp]

oh well I will try to play later

[stark hamlet]

I fking hate this game sometimes....
With my weak build, spent 15 min trying to kill chronomancer to slam two 2LP relics.
Two relics wasted, both times rng selected useless shitty affix.

Thanks for listening to my Ted Talk.

[lusty quarry]

bro i get my dungeon ability removed if i die and use key to respawn

so i cant use dungeon ability like switch realm so i cant kill the bos

[latent jacinth]

hi welcome to last epoch where the game is fun but the bugs don't matter

Sadly, if you cannot in any way unjank that, just ditch that run and shoot again. I am very sorry. 🙁 Search the #1210281997591908452 and here in #💬┃general in case someone else has posted about this and a solution was posted

Also make sure to use F8 in game to report

[lusty quarry]

i did report it, it was after switching from online mode to offline so i had no keys on this new character

it is fine i was like 10 levels under the boss anyway

[latent jacinth]

Ah, got it

[night gate]

Good evening, I have a question, I'm just going to buy the game but I don't know if it's worth it, what do they say?

[lusty quarry]

it is a great arpg, more depth than diablo, less complicated that poe.
i am not sure but sometimes there is a free weekend? not sure to be honest

[night gate]

If I imagine, I had my doubts whether to buy this game or the poe2, but I think that one will be free next year so I better wait.

Time to try last epoch

[lusty quarry]

if you want easy builds you can find in maxroll.gg, but the game is more fun when you create your own build

[night gate]

Of course

Thanks for the info

[severe cave]

just lost connection randomly D:

[proud vector]

ya i cant connect either

whats goin on?

[dry sedge]

Halooo

https://tenor.com/view/anime-goku-dbz-dragon-ball-super-saiyan-gif-8246706

[willow sentinel]

👋👋

Good morning travelers

Hope you are having a lovely Saturday

[torpid jacinth]

how important is the armor stat for caster classes like mage and acolyte?

[willow sentinel]

Armor is always a valuable stat

Dont need to get to 80% because it will requires to much investment

But getting to 30-50% DR should be fairly easy to achieve and give you a lot of EHP

[torpid jacinth]

thank you!

[steel mesa]

I always try to get at least 50% on every build

[willow sentinel]

Tip: Thoses 2 blessings (Spirit of Fire and Age of Winter) cangive you a large chunk of Armor

[torpid jacinth]

my current build is a bit rocky right now so im slowly working to improve lol

[willow sentinel]

Unless you really need smth from there

[torpid jacinth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/801021817178423309/1416325173853818901/image.png?ex=68c66f1b&is=68c51d9b&hm=62311b40c2f4f340b2c1f4af658ec426864bea9b8541ef5d0b722df8dac79781&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=626&height=960

[steel mesa]

I always take those armor blessings and the all res too. Really helps fix defenses early on.

[torpid jacinth]

im focusing cold spells as a sorcerer and having a lot of fun with the abilities so far

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner this is my character currently

im not really following any guides, im not a fan of just finding a guide and following it so i just kinda do my own thing but if anyone notices any GLARING issues please let me know

ive got an unstable core and another strand of souls with legendary potential, jsut working on getting a key to upgrade them

i am so dumb i only just now realized blessings take effect regardless of what part of the game youre in and not just within in the particular monolith

[fluid pebble]

Defences in LE are quite straightforward - you want to layer them to have the maximum impact

At a minimum, you always want to ensure you cap all resists (or have gear that can swap out damage type for a capped one), have 100% reduce crit bonus or crit dodge (either of them, as they have the same effect at 100%) and capped endurance (60%)

After that, your tankiness scales based on HP, ward (if your build includes it), armor and endurance threshold

[torpid jacinth]

I see

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

I need to get me some more blessings, also working on switching my rings out now taht ive realized i cant put set bonus affixes onto uniques with elgendary potential 😭

[fluid pebble]

That's true of all classes. Then you have some class/build specific stuff like dodge (which can be for all classes, but iirc rogue has quite a lot of dodge stuff built into the passive true), and block (which is mainly from shields)

[willow sentinel]

If youplay ward you dont really want to invest in Endurance

Since it doesnt apply to ward

[fluid pebble]

Sure, but don't you still want the endurance cap to be max once the ward runs out? Or is the game set up in a way that if you invest in ward, you can't really invest in endurance? (I've never really played a ward build)

[willow sentinel]

If you have 7k ward and 1.3k hp, 60% Endurance on 260 hp isnt going to save you

[fluid pebble]

Fair point

[torpid jacinth]

if i had to choose between the two, would it be better to go for exalted intelligence, or exalted cold damage?

intelligence from what i understand increases spell damage by 4% per point so cold damage seems like the better choice unless im missing something

[severe socket]

INT also gives you ward retention.

[torpid jacinth]

a good point

[fluid pebble]

It also depends on how your build is set up. If you have multiple cold damage skills, then maybe the cold damage would be good. If you only have one cold damage skills, but multiple skills that scale off INT, the INT might become more useful

[glass pendant]

also as a general rule, try to use only one spell that deals damage, unless you're experienced with the game and know what you're doing. The rest of your skills should either be supporting your main skills, adding survivability or helping you move around better

[fluid pebble]

Unless you're judgement paladin, in which case everything is damage, healing and one dash too 🤣

[glass pendant]

I wouldn't go as far as calling judgement "damage" 😋

[severe socket]

At the same time I keep hearing that it's been one of the most broken builds during 1.2.

[torpid jacinth]

heres another question.... why the heck does idol searching in the bazaar suck so much

and why dont we have better filtering options for them

[fluid pebble]

It's still pretty broken on 1.3, just not as much (he says as he face tanks Abberoth for the 100th time)

[severe socket]

For starters, because idols in general suck balls affix-pool-wise.

And we have absolute zero control over them.

It's entirely random. All the goddamn layers of random.

Worse than gacha, really.

[torpid jacinth]

still, i wish i could AT LEAST search for idols by size in the bazaar

[fluid pebble]

MG filtering was annoying last season, not sure if it got any updates this time around (playing CoF rn)

[severe socket]

So much for not having uniform UI for the same thing. Loot filter, stash filter, bazaar filter.

That said, MG ain't fun for quite a chunk of people because trading in general is a rabbit hole not everyone has figured out how to work with properly.

Specifically how the absolute f--- item prices should be formed.

It's entirely a---pulled most of time.

[torpid jacinth]

id also love the ability to make talent presets so that i dont have to reallocate points every time i put something with +level to x skill into yhe forge for a second

[fluid pebble]

#1210282176680169562 - you can make you suggestions there for the dev team to hopefully pick up

tbf, they're good at listening to feedback, but it's impossible to implement all suggestions

[severe socket]

"Hopefully" would be the keyword.

[nova dirge]

I must be charging too much for the items that I'm selling because I've only sold one item out of about 30 items

What are the dungeons? Do we do those in a party?

[fluid pebble]

Dungeons have a few purposes:

1 - they act as a campaign skip (though that will only really apply if you are playing on an alt, as you need keys to enter and you won't have any on your first playthrough)
2 - they have unique boss loot that can't be obtained without challenging the boss (or that is true, until you get the weaver tree node and then it's luck, but it might be easier to target farm the boss anyway)
3 - they all have unique mechanics that you can use after completion: Temporal Sanctum has a unique mechanic that is used for legendary item crafting, which is probably the only one that people will always use. The others are kind of meh (imo), Lightless Arbor is a gold sink (of sorts), while Soulfire Bastion has a kind of item gamble (which isn't worth it at all)

You can do them solo or in a party

[nova dirge]

Which echos should I be doing to earn gold?

[slim tartan]

is there a build like best for mapping?

like it can clear the whole screen

[unkempt anvil]

Is the glacier bug fixed yet ?

[willow sentinel]

Reflect

But imo its pretty boring since you barely engaged with mobs

They look at you they die

[slim tartan]

what class is that

is paladin build like you can ward party members also?

[willow sentinel]

Shaman/Druid/Paladin

[stark hamlet]

can somebody explain me, what's the point of "8 eyes in the dark" node of the weaver tree?
why "No beacons" and "more spiderling packs" mater ?

kinda seems useless to me

[willow sentinel]

Beacons are not very valuable imo
Spiderlings means extra density in echoes

[stark hamlet]

"chance for additional spider pack: 5%"

hmmm

[willow sentinel]

If you like doing beacons, keep them

[stark hamlet]

I don't 🙂

[slim tartan]

sir does judgement paladin can ward party members? like it can buff them with wards and dmg boost?

[willow sentinel]

This node allows you to give ward to your allies

Btw you are your own ally

[frank oracle]

Any stronger build than Reflect Shaman?

[night marten]

for clearing, no

for bossing, yeah

[frank ridge]

reflect shaman is best for clearing maps?

[night marten]

all you do is walk

lol

you dont really even need to press buttons

[frank ridge]

Walk Shaman build 😄

[willow sentinel]

Alright team

I need some slamming advice

I need t5 Spell Crit to be crit cap

But really want the t7 Spell Dmg

What do I lock in the cache ? I am slamming a 2lp

Do I lock t5 and hope for the t7 to come ?

Do I lock the t7 and pray ?

[frank ridge]

or wait and drop 3lp wand?

[willow sentinel]

By the time I get a 3lp wand Ill have a good exalted too

😄

Lucky day ^^

Time to go bully Lagon again ^^

[inner topaz]

Can anyone please tell me a decent mage builds for a level 70? I don't have any fancy uniques or even legendarys just some good starter gear but getting sick of the randomness of the rune master invocations and want a proper build to follow

[willow sentinel]

So he can not drop me my relic

[willow sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_yTuV1u_ec&ab_channel=FrozenSentinel

[inner topaz]

Appreciated but that gear is all full of legendarys etc I don't have

[willow sentinel]

You really only need 2 uniques to start

Mad Ladle and Enigma

Then you can work your way up to this

[lusty glade]

any suggestions on what build to switch to from Bleed Hammer Pala? I can respec also. lvl 87 and cant do 2-3 very relevant maps as hammers just disappear. Like in Sepulchre the last room before boss, I kept dying until I realized no hammers are spining.

[humble loom]

slamming a unique with a duplicate results in same outcome. is that a bug?

[willow sentinel]

Nope, just probability

If you slam a 2lp with the garanteed slam you have 33% Chance to get the same second affix

[glass pendant]

same for 3lps

[humble loom]

seems like i have very bad luck with all my duplicates lol

[glass pendant]

33% for both affixes you need

Basically everything that isn't a guarantee (1lps and 4lps) is a 33% chance unless you don't mind getting the 4th stat in a 3lp

[carmine arch]

when it comes to prophecies does corruption count? I need to know before I waste favor on a siege golem and have to go into the story just to find one and kill it.

[night marten]

not unelss the proph has a corruption requirement

[carmine arch]

so I could fill up with siege golems and farm them in the story mode and have a chance to find a red ring?

[night marten]

you would run out of favor at some point cuz you wouldnt get enough to sustain from campaign kills

but yes

[pallid schooner]

does rune of havoc roll t1 affixes ?

[night marten]

it can move t1 affixes, yes

it moves any affix

[pallid schooner]

oh ok,thanks

[willow sentinel]

Also by farming in the campaign you will not get good "natural" drops

[native fiber]

Does the node in the skill tree to give flame damage to the Ballista make it a fire skill for effects that give bonus points to fire skills?
Similar question for the Umbral Blades skill node that makes the blades explode

[west ivy]

does it say it adds the "Fire" tag?

[native fiber]

No and it doesn't have the greyed out mark next to it showing that it can have that element, but I wasn't sure if that was intentional or not since the node directly increases fire damage (instead of just increasing the percent done)

Seems extra odd/questionable since that branch of nodes leads into the node to make the Ballista explode

[severe socket]

Ballista is yet another old oddball in rogue's repertoire.

Nodes are all over the place and require too much investment to work decently.

Most damage type conversion nodes across rogue's skillset are still subpar and illogical (looking at you, Acid Flask).

Most of skills are locked to physical too.

[dreamy ocean]

Dude, thank God for the nemesis system in this game. If i had known about this sooner id done it in a heartbeat. Ive gotten so many legendaries and high up off of no lp uniques

Even if the legendary I got didnt had the stat I was hoping for its still better than walking around with the unique base

Now I just have to focus on the affixes from exalts

[paper marten]

Anyone have a link to a S3 paladin build to facetank uber abb not using drops from uber abb? all i found are s2 or merchants'guild

[willow sentinel]

Meanwhile I am at my 10th Storcarved Testament waiting for just 1 lp 😢

[native fiber]

Acid Flask in particular is a really weird oddball since I know of that Unique that turns it's poison to cold and is for intelligence builds maybe? (really want to see someone figure out how to make that work)

Also a bit curios, but does nobody else like the Circle of Fortune? (as I find its much nicer for just playing with, but TBF never tried the Merchants after looking at what they had to offer)

[dreamy ocean]

-# me sitting on 2 of them waiting to get the mana exalt I need for my Flay lich

[night marten]

that unique works fine for offhands for frostbite mages and you ignore the acid flask conversion. you can use the unique for proc acid flask builds too if you wanted the frostbite. but self cast flask is pretty bad still

but that doesnt have much todo with the unique

its more the skill itself doesnt lend itself to self casts

[viral jetty]

I'm torn, i havn't played since S1, idk what to make/play lol

[night marten]

do forged weapons

[viral jetty]

did they buff FG? cause i played that as my first char lol

[night marten]

since s1, yes

but pretty much eerything has since then

[viral jetty]

Cause I did the Forge Weapon warpath carrier build... it was meh

[severe socket]

Why not add class-specific base items in the implement category? Like Pouch (+DEX, whatever else) for rogues/primalists and Figurine (+ATT, whatever else) for primalists/sentinels?

Using Catalyst (+INT) as a ROGUE item is just a mockery to me.

[night marten]

there are a few other FW builds you can do. but if you dont want that, beastmaster is very strong this season

[viral jetty]

yeah saw beastmaster and the other summon builds got huge buffs

but i'm normally not a summon player i either like to pew pew spells or bonk

I miss the wearbear earthquake build when it was OP xD

[night marten]

beastmaster is more you are in the fray with your minion

[severe socket]

Marksman is a complete joke to the devs. First her signature skill being turned into a melee skill via a unique dagger, then a right-half skill being turned into a throwing attack by another unique. Not to mention half of the passive pool in there being a wtfrandom mess. What gives?
While we're at it, why not pull a U-turn and unique-up an inherently melee/throwing attack into a bow attack instead? And how many "seasons" should pass before rogue gets all her missing skills? There're 3 empty slots still (two baseline and one BD's).

[night marten]

its pretty active

[native fiber]

Maybe its buildup to Marksman being the next character for significant improvement as each of them seems to get their turn after a bit (dunno/missed what happened to the Mage though, but they seem consistently viable at the very least)

[severe socket]

I don't believe that. Heartseeker was the only thing added, and even then half the tree barely makes any sense at all.

[native fiber]

I was thinking about it more before I tried making a suggestion, but theoretically if support existed and/or was added to Forged Weapons to make them into Void Blades would it be potentially good or would there not be enough to do with that?

[native fiber]

Falconer though

Or did I get the name of the base class mixed up?

[severe socket]

I made [quite] a [radical, should I say] suggestion to overhaul the entirety of passive system in order to make it more deterministic and, by extension, alleviate/possibly-eradicate the situation we're facing right now, but that absolutely is not going to happen.

#1283902758541590538 message - Context.

[night marten]

a suggestion is fine tbh. there isnt much there now but future is always changing

[severe socket]

And now that krafton is in charge, I'm honestly kinda not expecting anything substantial.

[viral jetty]

@night marten I think i'm gonna do a pally build see how it feels i just odn't know what yet xD

[night marten]

pala is very strong. lots of build paths

[viral jetty]

yeah saw a hammer ignite build, a smite/warpath VK time rot build, few others. I'm gonna just play around with stuff and see how i enjoy it this time around

[night marten]

thats the best way to play

[native fiber]

Looking over the Primalist's trees the main thing I would want is for them to make more sense on what skills/passives go where as it looks really scrambled

1. Druid seems gets more spell support despite Werebear being the Signature (the Spriggans in general seem more like they support the Shaman)
2. Beastmaster gets more things to help with actually jumping into battle despite supposedly being a minion build
3. Shaman gets Earthquake thats not even a spell 15 points in and seemingly has no support for it in his own tree

[native fiber]

Smite has a a Void conversion now that looks really cool IMO

The VK even has a passive node to make it scale with VIT

[severe socket]

Has always been there right in the very first VK passive column.

Just got moved over to the skill itself.

[native fiber]

I meant the one in the skill seemed new
The passive is still there BTW so its better to have both IMO

[severe socket]

Fair enough.

[native fiber]

AFAIK the skill node doesn't even change to work with VIT at all so it would be suboptimal to run not on a VK build

[severe socket]

Yeah, that's Renouncement's job (early right-half passive on top).

Again, has already been there before.

[native fiber]

Unless there are attunement (dunno shorthand for it) void builds that sound super niche even without more details

[severe socket]

VK doesn't even want to scale with ATT anyway.

[native fiber]

I thought its after the 15 point mark so only VKs can get it

[willow sentinel]

In most case I agree with you, but there is one exception that comes to my mind
If you want to play Time Rot Smite, Flat Spell from Vit isnt doing anything for you, but Inc Dmg per Att will

[native fiber]

yeah thats the point I'm making, but other builds can get Void Smite jsut I dunno why

[native fiber]

It will prolly help during leveling AFAIK

[pastel ravine]

Been a minute since I last played. Pre-Season 1 actually. As for the tabs that I purchased before that are "Remove Only" in the "Release" selection, Do I lose all of those tabs now that it is now "Legacy"? That is an awful lot of gear to move and gold to lose.

[willow sentinel]

You wont loose them

[simple bison]

Pretty sure pre 1.0 tabs are just normal tabs in legacy

[willow sentinel]

You will have to buy new tabs

[pastel ravine]

Oof... That hurts a bit

[simple bison]

yeah it do be like that

[pastel ravine]

I mean, it's not like it's real money, but still

Now, if Path of Exile had done that, I'd be livid.

[simple bison]

I think a lot of people would be lol. But yeah it's basically an issue of if your old plus new tabs add up to being over 200 what are they supposed to do, they gotta give you remove only tabs. And I guess if they transferred over your seasonal tabs into legacy ones for free you'd end up kinda cheating the system since tabs get more expensive as you buy more, but instead you just keep only paying for the first 30 or whatever you buy per season and at the end of the season they just get added on top of your legacy tabs. But while I think that's a minor reason I don't think it's the whole reason.

[nova mulch]

can i just start with empowered monoliths on a new character?

or have to unlock once again?

[lyric cargo]

I feel like with abom it's too hard to run away and dodge and still have abom hit Uber any suggestions? Do I just have to stay close?

He hits for 6 million on basic attacks and 50 mil for double strike on dummy so I feel like that should be enough damage wise

[willow sentinel]

You will have to do 1 lvl 90 Mono

But you can tp there straight away and skip all normal monos

[fluid pebble]

How do you get rid of the 'Finding Apophis' quest? It is still stuck on 'Speak with the Forgotten Knight', like... I'm already killing Abberoth, of course I've spoken with her lol

[frozen creek]

Not sure what quest that is, but with storyline quests, you can open the map and hide/unpin them. Is that an option for that quest?

(As a workaround that is :p)

[native fiber]

Did you try speaking with her again?

[willow maple]

hey does the barnacle king - lizard woven echo - work with the cache imprint ?

[copper sorrel]

does le have xbox controller support?

[night marten]

it has controller support, yes

i pretty sure it has proper icons

not 100% on that tho

[violet jetty]

I use controller. Navigation is not good in stash and some menus, but combat and general play is ok. Minion use is awful imho

[cloud raven]

so what's this discord all about?

[south moat]

It's the official discord for Last Epoch

Not sure what you mean

[cloud raven]

ah i thought it was some kind of cult, nevermind then

[south moat]

Yeah, sure it's the cult of Last Epoch

whatever

[cloud raven]

oh i was lookg for the cult of no left turns

sounds like a righteous cult to me

[viral agate]

Hi, is there a single build that uses the new primordial unique harmony?

[mellow crag]

i have unistalled LE

[south moat]

Okay, gratz

[willow sentinel]

See you then

[novel kindle]

anyone else annoyed with bugging? specifically rogue build with flurry and dancing strikes

I go to play after maybe 30 minuted I cant bring myself to enjoy it also rubber banding.. my pc and internet is perfectly adequate

[violet jetty]

I've not had any rubber banding this season.

I'm playing paladin btw. Doesn't help ik, but maybe related to your pc or limited to a skill on that particular build

[cloud raven]

is anyone here a real human

why do people sleep

what time is it when the colour 7 is green

[south moat]

No real humans here good sir
sleep is for the weak (and I'm going to be weak soon)

[willow sentinel]

I would love to go to sleep but I am still studying

[south moat]

Hope you do get your rest soon enough

[green portal]

Is there a way to level up besides the campaign?

[willow sentinel]

If you can handle monos when you reach End of Time for the first timeyou can do that

But you still need to do some of the campaign for Idols and Passives pts

[green portal]

About how long is it to End of Time? It's been a while since I played

[simple bison]

It's a generic unique. It can be used on a ton of builds but gearing for it is pretty annoying so you're usually better off doing something else. Hence why there aren't really guides with it

It's basically just a massive stat stick, but there's nothing build enabling about it

[grave hornet]

dude wtf

i was making my stash to look pretty cute and 9m gone xd

[severe socket]

Yeah, it does add up fast.

[dapper wedge]

will maelstrom proc doom from siphon of anguish?

[willow sentinel]

Maelstrom doesnt hit so no

But if maelstrom procc storm bolts than yes

[dapper wedge]

ah

[short onyx]

20 levels roughly if all you want to do is dive into monoliths

[dapper wedge]

just died with 3 or 4 lizards loot on the ground 🙁

[simple bison]

Should just follow you if you're in echoes

[dapper wedge]

idk whats going on but when i try put needles in my stash it is no longer going to my needle tab but in to my general unique tab. it was working the other day but now no longer working??

[fallow hull]

i have just started playing last epoch about 2 days ago i have got to level 23 so far. leveling seem to take ages. is there anyway to speed this up?

[simple bison]

This might come off as elitist but not really no. The only way to level up faster is to go through the content faster. Which obviously your first ever character will take longer than subsequent ones. Both because you're starting fresh with no leveling gear but also because you're learning as you go.

[dapper wedge]

leveling is fine, just keep at it.

[simple bison]

For context the fastest level 100 is usually within 24 hours every season

But if you feel that early leveling is too slow for newcomers do feel free to post it in the #1210281911872786482 . It's very possible me and others who've been playing for years are out of touch with the new player experience. (We definitely are)

[fallow hull]

thanks. you are right i'm used to playing in a group on diablo 4 so now playing on my own i;m not use to it lol trying to work out what gear is good to use is hard too

[silver arrow]

tbh Last Epoch is the first time I heard complain about "leveling is too slow", I never heard such complaint when I played Path of Exile 🤔

[severe socket]

Not so hard once you get the gist of it.

Prioritize gearing towards a single damage type and form (for instance, fire hit/crit), possibly the stat your mastery scales best with (depends on which skills you use), and defense layers (health, resistances, crit mitigation, endurance, whatever else). And make sure to set up your loot filter (Shift+F) accordingly.

Also the in-game guide (hit G to call it up) is very helpful.

[olive lotus]

It's the best Arpg campaign i have ever do, my first run i'm already lvl 97 in 5 days, with my own build in SSF/offline, i really can't except anything like that in another Arpg 

I think it takes you ages beceause you are too used by the other game where theres this quest to do, this items to use for not being ultra weak etc .. here you can just follow the flashing circle kills mobs and all gonna be fine (from my experience)

[keen rock]

Was there a patch that nerfed Woven Riches and Loomed Riches spawning? I used to get tons of Rampant Coasts by putting them in both of those imprint nodes, but now I get barely any.

Is there a point you need to reset your web to start getting them again? My web is kinda big and I already have like 10 (completed) Rampant Coasts on there.

[violet canopy]

Hmm, is the server still up? I can't tell if it's the game hecking up, or if it's being caused by my being stuck at one bar of wifi

[stark hamlet]

it's up

but I can only speak for AU region

[normal cloak]

how does observatory ranking works for alts? created a new char and it's rank 4

[wooden rain]

rank is shared between characters

If they join cof that is

[normal cloak]

thanks!

[stark hamlet]

can I use an item with experimental affix for slamming?
Effectively eliminating one of undesirable affixes from rng pool.

Feels kinda cheaty if the answer is yes.

[fluid pebble]

You can, but it doesn't get eliminated from the pool

[stark hamlet]

so you can have a legendary with experimental affixes? nice 🙂

[inland temple]

slamming?

[fluid pebble]

Legendary crafting is also known as slamming

[fluid pebble]

Yes, it is possible

You can't do it with set item affixes though

Same with champion affixes as they are always sealed, and sealed affixes aren't in the pool for slamming

[inland temple]

Ah so using the end of the time dungeon.

[fluid pebble]

Yes, Temporal Sanctum. It's probably the only dungeon that everyone will use, the other two are situational at best depending on your build

[stark hamlet]

I don't even know what Arbor dungeon is for...

[fluid pebble]

It's a gold sink

There's a mech that uses gold to gamble on the contents (and number) of chests at the end

It's kind of meh 🤷‍♂️ tbh

I only ran it because I was farming boss loot, same as Soulfire Bastion. Both unique mechanics are kind of... underwhelming imo

[nova dirge]

So does the +physical damage non % stat get modified by my entire arsenal of +physical damage %, therefore the physical damage non % is the most important on wep because I can't find anything cheap at MG that has decent stats

[simple bison]

Pretty much

[nova dirge]

Do I want to try something that's not sword for my swipe bear druid?

I like the attack speed though

[simple bison]

Afaik there's nothing tying you down to only using swords on that build so sure why not

Yeah swords are the fastest hitting weapons

[nova dirge]

Well it says my swipe does 500 less damage when I swapped to a 350 % increased damage wep

[simple bison]

Impossible for me to know why without seeing your entire character, sorry

If you're swapping added for increased thats likely the reason

[nova dirge]

So clearly the +melee damage number is the more important number, I've gotta find something that hits harder

[simple bison]

Yes, added damage is a very important and premium stat

Most builds only get it from the weapon

While increased damage is available pretty much everywhere

[nova dirge]

Yeah I can't really find it anywhere except my weapon

Is the level 95-100 grind long?

Because I've hit level 70 in a jiffy

[simple bison]

Can be yeah. Going from 98 to 100 requires as much total xp as going from 1 to 98

But obviously you're getting more xp

Hard to say how long it'll take for you specifically. Some people can get to 100 in less than 24 hours while others need a week or more

[nova dirge]

I seem to be liking Last Epoch so far, it gives me huge Diablo 2 vibes, and I loved Diablo 2

I don't seem to understand the unique items though

[untold heath]

a lot easier to get the desired gear in Last Epoch, compared to Diablo 2 😄

[simple bison]

What about them? The legendary potential system?

[nova dirge]

None of the unique items seem to be any good to me, but that's just me

[simple bison]

That's very possible

[nova dirge]

And I'm a noob

[simple bison]

Not many uniques are generically good

Most of them are good for specific builds and Play styles

[nova dirge]

Oh so it's not even supposed to be about the uniques then, I see

[simple bison]

You probably just haven't dropped ones good for you yet

[nova dirge]

Well I read the unique list on the website and I want to get the attack speed ring and gloves, I haven't seen it in game though yet

[simple bison]

Like do you think this would be good for you

(answer is yes)

[nova dirge]

I thought it was 40% attack speed at least

On the gloves I thought it was 40-60%

[simple bison]

Well you can slam more attack speed on them to increase it. But no. Generally you can't get that much attack speed in gloves outside of these which disable your crits

Attack speed is mainly found on your weapon

Gloves are the only other slot that can have the stat as an affix but at a lower amount

[untold heath]

sometimes it is more useful to craft your own gloves instead of using uniques

[simple bison]

The affix maxes out at 30% generally

[simple bison]

This is also very true. Not every slot needs to be a unique

But yeah there's no glove with 40-60% attack speed by default

Closest you'll get is wing guards with an attack speed slam but they disable your crits so for none dot builds they're usually not the best

[nova dirge]

Oh I see, Immortal Vise is not bad as long as I have attack speed elsewhere too

I don't know if I want to stick with bear druid yet or try something different.

I feel like I don't use a lot of my skills with bear druid,

And I have little to choose from, since I can't cast as bear

[simple bison]

Btw I just used that as an example don't expect to get an immortal vise anytime soon. It's one of the hardest items in the game to get

[nova dirge]

where am i geting this tokens with the skull on them that allow me to purchase stuff as lower rank from MG?

[willow sentinel]

Lvling up MG rank and just random drop I believe

[untold heath]

did you try forging gloves with attack speed?

[nova dirge]

yeah i have attack speed gloves already, its just why im saying the uniques don't seem very good. i can already get alot of attack speed just forging or with purple gear

i just doubled my tooltip damage with a new sword, lol

[simple bison]

Once you start dropping uniques with legendary potential and uniques that actually fit your build I think you'll change your mind, just give it time ^^

[glass pendant]

me dropping a 2lp vise and quitting the season before using it 💔

[nova dirge]

Well sometimes I get these tokens and sometimes I don't. And I don't know what they are called, the ones with the skull on them.

Without the tokens I can't buy anything in Merchants Guild, I'm only rank 5

I don't even know how I'm ranking up except XP seems to rank me up very slowly

[willow sentinel]

Getting favour and spending it

[nova dirge]

Nothing to spend favor on if I don't have the rank to buy exalted

None of my gear is selling, I've tried reducing prices

[steep flare]

Merchant's Guild presumably has a gambler too, right? Points spent there also rank you up

[nova dirge]

Oh good idea

I bought these new boots from Merchants Guild and I didn't realize I'm too low level to wear them, so I gotta pump out one more level so I can wear them. XP seems to be slowing down a lot.

[willow sentinel]

You can spend the favor by listing items

[nova dirge]

Yeah nothing I'm listing is selling

[steep flare]

IIRC favor gains scale with xp rate, so pushing into corruption it starts to scale up pretty quick

Also you find favor caches more often

[willow sentinel]

You still get the reputation

You dont need to sell, you need to list

[steep flare]

Yeah, reputation is from spending the favor, not doing useful things with it XD

[willow sentinel]

To increase your rank

[steep flare]

Wasting it works just fine

[nova dirge]

And I seem to be stuck on lower level echos, I don't know how to unlock the level 70 echos

[steep flare]

Beat the boss and it opens the path to the next one

[willow sentinel]

Kill the timeline boss

And move to the next timeline

[nova dirge]

Where is the timeline boss?

[willow sentinel]

Send a screen in #❔┃ask-the-community of the map where you choose your next echo to do

[nova dirge]

Ok in a bit, thanks

[willow sentinel]

Dont bother

[split skiff]

I highly recommend using the TSM filter. It's by far the most popular MG filter which helps massively with selling items. You can find the filter in #1361743745116016780 or here https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/ (Just search TSM and use Strict or Very Strict).

Naturally at this point in the cycle/season the market has slowed, despite that I still sell quite a few items everyday resulting in solid profits. In regards to leveling up MG the higher the corruption value the better as favour gain is tied to xp gain.

[echo ledge]

Seems like blood tether 1% more per bleed on target is not working at all?

[willow sentinel]

🥲🥲

[severe socket]

Did you report it?

[echo ledge]

I'm trying to understand that exactly, so asking other ppl to not make fake report

[frigid palm]

seriously, wtf is going on... These infinite loading screens that i can open a main menu while in it..

how do they gradually make the game worse and worse

[hollow tinsel]

what's the point of eterran idols if weaver idols are just flat out better

[simple bison]

They're way more common

It's like saying what's the point of T6 affixes if T7's are just better

[hollow tinsel]

yeah but its easier to get weaver idols than it is to get t7s
much easier
and you have eterran idol propechies which are pretty useless since weavers are just better

[short locust]

Lagonian and Eterran idols are basically just for lvling your first char imo

[short locust]

Man, I feel like I've lived under a primalist rock for so long. But primalist is very powerful atm, and I don't necessarily feel like going elsewhere just right now anyway. But I must be missing stuff only playing one class, right?

It's my second season. I got like 6 primalists out of which 2 are lvl 100. Plus also an acolyte

[untold heath]

is there any way to get more bones other than entering rifts or killing rift beasts?

[short locust]

You get more bones at higher zone lvl, that I know for sure. I'd also assume it scales with corruption/rarity (from echo mods aside from corruption). What you can do is imprint rampant coast, spawn rate seems bugged so even though it costs 7500 amber, it spawns all the time. They have like 10+ random evolutions which can be bones, and maybe riftbeasts drop a small amount of bones by default

[untold heath]

hm, might give that a try, thanks

gotta clear the rifts a bit more thouroughly, I guess...

[short locust]

You can use one of the other two beast echoes to guarante beasts. Then you know if the echo has a riftbeast, you're not wasting your time looking for it

I think it's the nests one

If you imprint that one though, you might get more of it than you want. At the very least if you double imprint

When it buffs surrounding echoes, having 5 in a cluster isn't super useful

[untold heath]

I have 40+ of them, plenty to waste

[short locust]

😄

[untold heath]

nesting grove and bloodline glade drop like mad

[short locust]

Yeah, they're much more common

Man, I feel like testing mage. But I wanna test dodge so maybe rogue? Altho, if rogue can't actually take a hit now and then and it's actually dodge or die, then I don't wanna play it

[untold heath]

do you like playing glas cannons? 😄

[short locust]

Nah, I just like the feeling when I mess up an abberoth checkboard slam and dodge or parry it

If I block it and have aspect of the boar up plus am topped off on life, I usually live through one hit of it anyway (on uber). But when I just don't even take dmg that is funny

I kinda want a build that reliably survives one hit if topped off, but usually dodges it

Like sure, if I misplay I'm ok with it killing me. But would be nice having good odds to stay topped off (cuz dodge) after it or any other thing like that, and still being able to tank a single one if topped off

[gentle vale]

is LE down for anyone else?

[native fiber]

Does anyone know if a Cinder Strike Falconer with a Fire/Elemental focus on gear would be better with Melee or with a Bow? (planning on having Throwing as well)
Along with that I had the idea to have the other weapons as a "fast" change option in my inventory to switch depending on what I was fighting

[void flume]

yes

[unreal delta]

My stash tabs are completely bugged. I foudn some workarounds from back in April when this issue sueems to have started but they did not work on my case. Do you know if there's anything I can do to address this? Game is currently unplayable without being able to stash items correctly.

[shy laurel]

what class should get a rework in the next patch

[severe socket]

Marksman.

And Bladedancer.

Hands down.

Dancing Strikes is still a sick joke of a skill (and a signature one at that), Marksman as a whole is a mockery to the archer fantasy.

And rogue in general lacks at least 3 skills total.

[south moat]

Yeah, I'd agree with those 2

[glass pendant]

buff falconer as well

[south moat]

Sure
Falconeer is now removed from the game. This is a buff

[glass pendant]

rip toucan mtx 😔

[vernal nymph]

le toucan died for the falcon's sins

[safe bear]

Has anyone from EHG commented about the minion AI being out of wack over the past few days? I have 150 hours of abom necro this season, and something has been off. Both in summoning, and his AI. Always sling shotting around between minions across the screen, not staying with me in defensive mode, etc

[severe socket]

EHG has noticeably toned down their activity in here as of late from what I can see...

Wonder why, krapton aside.

[inner finch]

To be frank, this is not the best place for an EHG employee to be

on a mental capacity

[severe socket]

I somewhat agree.

[inner finch]

but im not noticing much of a change, really. we got the same regulars, sans the sudden departure of the previous CMs

[severe socket]

Especially whenever an angry karen shows up and starts yapping nonsense.

the sudden departure of the previous CMs
is still a mystery to me. Why?

[inner finch]

Long story short - contracts were done, they just disappeared

[steep river]

It's not a mystery, Ave's contract was up and she moved on.

[severe socket]

So she stopped playing altogether?

[inner finch]

For me this will always be one of the worse things EHG has handled with

[severe socket]

I wonder what prevented them from sticking around in a "fellow LE player" capacity.

By all means they shouldn't have been banned from this server.

Guess we'll never know.

[inner finch]

Last time i wanted to discuss this i was asked to dismiss the convo, so i cant quite do it again

[steep river]

This was all that was said related to it on this Discord server. #💬┃general message

[inner finch]

Fool me twice, hakaleken was also an integral part and just disappeared

Let me just make sure to never show interest in another CM lol

[polar cloak]

What are the best builds for controller use? I started a wizard and it seems to auto target.

[calm jay]

Honestly I haven't found a lot that I don't like so far. Wizard with Disintegrate been doin' nice, summons have been nice, melee isn't bad. Would thin really just like Rogue would be trouble.

My wiz spending most of the campaign just firing lightning blasts, holding down X and moving. Disintegrate for bosses, Flame Ward and/or potions if they're not dying fast enough

[polar cloak]

So for disintegrate don't you have to move with left joy, aim with right and click the skill?

Lightening blast is the one you start with right?

[calm jay]

You do have to aim, but Disintegrate is channeled so you just stand and fire. It does pretty obscene damage for a good while and when it starts falling behind a bit you get better tools to back it up (well so I found, haven't cleared campaign on Mage yet)

And yeah Lightning Blast is your starter. I changed it to cold element so it acts as crowd control

If I don't manually aim it autoaims, only issue is when enemies have teleports of any kind

[glass pendant]

I completely agree with this. I don't like the way this has been handled. If as a CM you'd rather not interact with the community, don't make it personal in the first place. Make it clear what's your job and what's genuine and nobody's gonna blame you for it. I don't expect us to be besties but it's not me who took that first step forward to begin with

I've found myself in situations before where regardless of having a business relationship with someone, I was still able to hang out with them as a normal human being

[brave grove]

I don't think that is uncommon. Devs finding forums draining or difficult to interact with long term was a thing twenty years ago, but a whole lot of changes to the internet and media landscape has amplified it. Discords are bigger and faster, games update more often, expectations of interaction style and professionality have changed, etc.

[inner finch]

You have to have a discord, sure

Just dont put your backend people there

Forums are far more controllable, particularly niche

Its much easier to join a server, flame, flame again, and again, and again, and pretty much have no direct consequences

[violet jetty]

🥃

[pastel summit]

When are they going to fix all the bugs in the ancient era
There's just too many draal

[pseudo crown]

Echos getting stuck on loading screens?

Can't load into any echos eu-west, 3x attempts, 3x stuck on load screen

Can't even load into character now

[violet jetty]

I've just done echo eu west. However, I'm getting frame skips on evade use today. Weird. Just restarting after updating gpu etc to see if that makes a difference.
First bug I've had this season.

[carmine arch]

so if they nerf builds like reflect and BM bear should VK warpath get hit with some nerfs as well? I heard they can do 3k monos and also judgment pally can face tank 5 shades in 2.5k mono?

[deep quartz]

not sure where to post this

https://puu.sh/KAMhf/46ef1c531f.png

is this correct or is it bugged

going to be the third time I've done this uh

monolith

but the harbinger has yet to spawn

is it like RNG or something

[violet jetty]

Make sure the corruption is high enough to clear the quest

[deep quartz]

The issue is I have to kill the harbinger to increase my corruption apparently

unless I'm misunderstanding

and the harbinger isn't spawning after the echo boss kill

[violet jetty]

Yes, because the corruption is below the quest requirement. Look to the right of the screen and what does it say is required for the next one?

[pastel summit]

You need to kill a shade of orobyss to raise corruption

[deep quartz]

Ah

so harbingers are seperate than corruption raising

[pastel summit]

Yep

[deep quartz]

How do you fight the shade then is that RNG or are there like specific echos or something

this is my first time actually making it to empowered monoliths

[violet jetty]

Just keep clearing the echos away from the start point. Eventually you'll get one to engage the shade with info on much corruption it is worth

If it is too low, you can kill the boss to add more to it

[pastel summit]

Pick a direction, and push outwards from the center. Eventually you'll find a shade.

[deep quartz]

ahhhh I see now it's an echo

well dang

[pastel summit]

Highest I've seen without any gaze is +8

[steep river]

Example of what it looks like: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/844008172640403496/1370811137485963384/image-4-1.png?ex=68c8495b&is=68c6f7db&hm=963946a5fce56da0480aa120531489db17d7991dd9021625bcccba68867be17a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[violet jetty]

💤

[pastel summit]

Ah, the rare +10 corruption shade

[shy laurel]

where do I get the land before unique idol?

[simple bison]

Seems it's just a global drop

If you're CoF iirc there are unique idol prophecies

If you're mg buy one

[loud fable]

I completely and totally disagree with this, to the point of wanting to ask you guys (I'll just infer what the hidden messages are) are on about.

They're a person doing their job. Of course they're not your friends. Never will be. Ever. It's not EHG or them that were in the wrong, it's you guys - how could you ever think it's anything more? This is the same as thinking Mike would be welcoming of certain "we're on a first-name basis" actions you could only do to your friends, just because he's superduperomegaturbo friendly. In reality - 100% not speaking for him, just saying, apply it to everyone - he probably doesn't want anything to do with the community in more than an official capacity.

"Big Mike" is typing

HOLY!

I'm already out, I just don't know it 😭

[broken siren]

they should really up the reward for void rifts in echoes. closing them gives nothing more than 1000 gold while killing stuff like patrolling mobs gives 5-10k

[loud fable]

It could be this, it could be 10 other things, or a combination of. Who knows? The only consistent, verifiable thing is that it's silly to assume someone's your friend because they're doing their job. It's a basic social cue game. You learn pretty early on that a friend (or, really, someone that genuinely wants to be there for you) is someone who makes time for you when they have no obligation to do so - and Avarielle was paid to interact that way. Anyways, each one of us does this regularly: at schools, workplaces, whatever. You always act extra nice to regulars, but it's not like they're your friends.

Also, devs are answering 24/7 in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs , and the "usual suspects" have typed as much as before even in this channel. Quite literally nothing changed. I see the patch not being that great's doing a number 😛

[dusky ice]

Anyone seen dual wield forge guard builds. Like dual wielding swords.

[inner finch]

Im going to pretend you're not Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz for this one. In gaming, and specifically in online gaming where studios run community communications and involvement platforms such as Discord and a forum, CMs (who become increasingly involved with the community over time) are given the chance to say their goodbyes from the community when it happens, when they leave. Despite it being their job, it is a very socially involved job where daily person to person communication with a lot of familiar faces becomes a regular occurrence. This happens to all studios of many sizes, like how Diablo's Nevalistis departed (proper post), or how GGG's Bex departed (social post), or how Coffee Stain's Snutt left (an entire video form their channel), or how Helldivers 2's Twinbread left. These people, who are essentially the face of the studio leave their mark before moving on and clarify that in the future players will have to see someone new filling up that role.

They thank the community and those who gave them chances, and more often than not even hint about future plans or just tell people to look out for them. This is more than just a robot finishing their job and disappearing into the ether without warning. This isn't just something unique to online communities. When people who work at a job that's tied to being social and communicating into and out of an organization, they tend to at least give their notice and say their goodbye. The seriousness of it depends of course in the scope of the relations and its implications on the employing organization. Here we didn't just a demotion, Ave who some of us used to smalltalk with on a daily basis was simply evaporated from the platform.

[simple bison]

Who said that?

[glass pendant]

it's the robot part I was trying to make a point about personally. doing your job and being a human being aren't mutually exclusive. There are a lot of jobs that can't get done whatsoever if there's lack of caring. Teaching, nursing, psychology, charity, police, the list goes on

[inner finch]

I hate the fact that im sounding a bit too dramatic with this, but its just how things happened

Emotionally, im 100% concentrated in trying to figure out what in the world Season 4 will include if skill sigils are off the table for it

Look me dead in the eye and understand I can't go one more season having the monolith as the one single endgame progression system

[glass pendant]

I don't think something has to be the most dramatic thing ever to feel strongly about it

[simple bison]

I feel like we might be trying to read too deeply into something we don't know too much about. Which isn't to devalue what anyone feels but I wouldn't make any assumptions as to what or why something happened. Like SweetGoat posted they decided not to make an announcement because there was no precedent for one in the past.
#💬┃general message

Could they have set a new precedent? Sure. But they chose not to.

[glass pendant]

either way, it is what it is. I believe there's merit in the way people feel about this exactly because of how little we know about it

[inner finch]

3 things are sure in life
Death to elite Tundra Stalkers
Healing hands being the best skill in the game
And communicative CMs disappear on a bright day like they never existed

[glass pendant]

I will fight anyone who takes Wick away

[inner finch]

Its going to be one of the Derricks, but you will never guess

Till then, we can conspire on what possible focus Season 4 can have

[glass pendant]

Hopefully the focus will be a prophecy reroll hotkey

The rest is a bonus

[inner finch]

I was very happy to hear that the icons will change

[glass pendant]

Are they actually changing further?

[inner finch]

Mike said that they are working on making sure similar icons for different item types wont exist

[glass pendant]

Because what we got this season was a big jebait

[inner finch]

like how 1H and 2H swords do

I know they worked to make the observatory system sort of minimalistic looking, but we are spending so much time just rerolling and hovering over prophecies to see their conditions

I wish some sort of small text could exist next to icons to indicate conditions

[glass pendant]

minimalistic look for maximalistic time wasted

[inner finch]

I also wonder what

is the status with trivially important things like mouse cursor customization

I remember in one of the Q&A Mike was asked, I believe it was around 1.1 time, and he said that if it was easy they would do it

Which did raise like 5 questions to me. How uncontrollable something that on the surface looks like such a simple modification

Personally, there's quite a lot more than cursor customization i'd love to see. I would love seeing UI rework. I know EHG hired people for UI and wonder what's the progress with it

[simple bison]

Swapping a prophecy icon likely (I don't actually know but I do have some knowledge regarding unity and relevant things) isn't super consequential but it's more likely it was just not a priority to try and come up with a new icon and then go through the list and replace the ones that need it and have it go through the QA process even if it doesn't cause further issues in comparison to more pressing bugs and features at the time

[glass pendant]

Currently I think bugs should be first priority. We have skill nodes and passives that don't work, items that don't work, desyncs, models getting stuck in the terrain, chat ui bugging in about 100 different ways, the list goes on

There needs to be some gigantic quality control

[inner finch]

more important bugs are... more important yes

But there's a bit of a design paradox on that approach

but generally yes, the bugs this season were quite something

[glass pendant]

Worst part is that some are just remnants from previous seasons

[inner finch]

There are things that exist since 1.0

[glass pendant]

And I know some have been hunted down and optimized for a while

But yeah it isn't helping that they keep piling

[simple bison]

I know some bugs that have changed slightly but are still pretty much the same since 0.8. can't think of one that old that has actually pestered me though

And the one I'm thinking of is very rare and not very consequential

[glass pendant]

I can. If you're in a party and you relog, there's a 50/50 coinflip that you have to remake the party or you don't see what anyone's typing and that's been pre 1.0

Also kills all item linking

[simple bison]

0.8 was before multiplayer but yeah there's a decent chunk of group play bugs

[inner finch]

There is so much UI and combat QoL i'd love to see from EHG and it really sometimes seem like a dark tunnel with no light at the end of it lol

[glass pendant]

Yeah I'm just saying that thing has been a thing since the moment multiplayer became a thing

(I know because it's the first thing I tested with my buds literally on the day it dropped)

[inner finch]

I would love if Season 4 changes my mind about EHG's capability of dealing with 4 month season cycles

I really want this to succeed

[glass pendant]

I just want one season of good quality control. Make it be the focus for one singular season

Catch up with the piling issues

[simple bison]

This might sound absurd but that's a minority opinion

[glass pendant]

it is, this is personal copium

I know it's not happening

[inner finch]

People will like all the shiny new feature comes Season 4

but with every major patch, I think that the burning question of "what else but monoliths" will gain popularity

[simple bison]

Yup. People in general will rather have a new mechanic rather than a few less bugs.

Obviously both would be nice

[glass pendant]

You know what they say about building on unsteady foundations

[simple bison]

And hopefully it'll get better with time. But yeah

[inner finch]

Welcome to 2025 gaming lol

[simple bison]

Time will tell but I think season 3 is an outlier because of the CT restructure (not because of what it did but because it happened, delaying CT testing) and chapter 10 taking up a large portion of dev time

[glass pendant]

my first computer was a 386, I've seen it get to this in all its glory lol

[inner finch]

I was among those who actually somehow avoided most bugs and issues had. Im an EUW player, and i cant even imagine some players just being blocked from accessing it

[simple bison]

Basically 2 things that negatively impact the amount of effort that could've been put into the new endgame content and fixing new and old bugs for it happened at the same time in season 3 is my perspective on it. But there's no way to know if that's true or copium until we get more seasons after this for context

[inner finch]

I also had one, the suite case form factor IBM compatible lol

[glass pendant]

I strongly believe the CT team lost some very enormous players

[inner finch]

with the buttons on the side

[glass pendant]

this brings me back 😭

[inner finch]

I believe it was 8Mhz, can't quite remember

[simple bison]

Bring back the turbo button

[inner finch]

that came a gen after, with the 11/33 dual mode

[glass pendant]

my dad has all his floppies preserved to this day in mint condition (yes he rewrote them all into newer ones due to the bad lifespan)

[inner finch]

If you played demo disks and general shareware in that era, it would have been hard not being a PC gamer for life

We have seen basement dorks have their starts there before turning into multimillionaires running all those giant companies today

[glass pendant]

I have a lot of demo disks that I doubt are functional anymore

and so much magazine stuff

I have some ancient point and clickers like broken sword

[ionic vale]

is season 4 on for december 20?

[simple bison]

No eta yet

[ionic vale]

but

they say they working on it?

obvs they cant give a date yet

but no month given still/

[inner finch]

EHG always working on the next season

and usually give us a final date on some trailer about 2 weeks before it happens

[simple bison]

Yes they're working on it , that much is confirmed

[ionic vale]

do we know

if itll be december?

before christmas

[simple bison]

We don't

[ionic vale]

or will they skip the holiday and do it early jan

(they didnt do that for easter in april for season 2)

so im guessing they are fine to work during holidays post new season to drop patches and what not

[inner finch]

Why would they be fine working on holidays?

This isnt some contractual obligation

it might come out before xmas, it might come out after new years

[nova dirge]

Well I might hop on tonight, I might not. I got some sun today so I might be pooped

I'm still trying to decide if I should buy a better cooler for my new 5900 XT

[mellow tree]

I haven't played LE since launch. Has there been more campaign / story added since?

Kinda ended in a cliffhanger from what I remember

[buoyant turret]

theres more but its still not finished

[south moat]

There's now chapter 10 too
12 chapters planned

[severe cave]

question, is there a way for the loot filter to change the way the temp keystones look/etc ? i checked under keys and things but didnt see it

[lusty quarry]

no these items cant be changed, only gear

[lusty quarry]

done it three times and i still have no clue what is going on. just rushing

[loud fable]

Btw, there's about -300% chance porting to online wasn't a massive undertaking. To be honest, I don't even think starting out as offline-only was a mistake. Just little happy accidents.

[lusty quarry]

so many bugs from rahyeh the black sun

casting two abilities that cover entire platform

[opaque shoal]

is wildfire ember working

[severe socket]

Just a random thought. Naturally it's great if she's still playing.

Sorry for the ping, btw, I don't know your timezone so I might've accidentally woke you up. 🙁

[simple bison]

You're good it's 9 am here

You can ping me even if it's in the middle of the night I won't wake up from it lol

[severe socket]

So -1h from me then. Noted.

[mellow tree]

Can you change mastery? I think I remember you couldn't.. did that change since launch?

[simple bison]

It changed in 1.1, you can now

[mellow tree]

Ok. I remember that the devs were very adamant on "your builds mean something"; but maybe community pressure made them change their minds

[simple bison]

It does cost up to a million gold so you don't really wanna do it all the time so I think it's basically a middle ground

[mellow tree]

I want to play void knight, but everyone says it sucks to level as, and use hammers or something

[simple bison]

You can level as void knight just fine

[mellow tree]

So wanted to make sure it was a choice if i follow one of these other builds that make you choose pally

[simple bison]

I mean yeah you can level via paladin and then swap

But leveling as void knight ain't bad

[shut shard]

you can just right click mobs with auto-attack and still have better leveling than any primalist build

don't guzzle the maxroll kool aid, you can level with most builds of any class just fine

if you want to go faster just dont stop to kill all the mobs

that will make a much bigger difference than going from the worst leveling build to the best

[inner finch]

The hammer part is very very short and entirely optional

Leveling a sentinel is an absolute breeze

[main frigate]

Interesting, both of EHG and GGG leave 2 chapters not be released 🤔

I don't worry about the campaign of le on length and difficulty, but it's a big issue in Poe 2

[pastel summit]

So I'm not crazy for having 15 characters

[pliant coral]

I'm not crazy!

[severe socket]

Nobody is crazy to be an altoholic.

Me, I literally had to clean up twice because of hitting the hard limit of 30 online characters.

Even now I have 22.

At least now I have only one "cycle" character in s3.

[pliant coral]

because of new primordial items i wanna try them all i need again all classes 😄

[severe socket]

Wish I had enough time for that too.

[cloud raven]

why do all chat mods have blue hair and nose rings, it's like willy wonka factory with the umpa loompas

[night ridge]

Heya, reinstalling LE right now... is there an option to hide helmets, even as MTX, or still stuck with bags?

...also do unique items have unique looks now?

[south moat]

sadly no option for it
Wish there was
Some uniques do, not all of them have an unique look
armors take a lot of work because need a different model for all the characters

[south moat]

If you have something to complain about moderation doing it here isn't the right place
you can send a private message to @grand geyser about it.

[night ridge]

...I feel like the option to hide helmet is one of the most wanted features, don't understand why it's not there. Especially with many of the unique helmets now having the model in the display. Found a unique one that looked in the display like a circlet, but then was one of the worse looking acolyte bags ingame. xD

[cloud raven]

was just a question, as to why they all look the same.

[copper sorrel]

Myself i have never seen a chatmods physical appearance unless they have it in their profile or live on stream, which was 2 times. Both looked normal to me.

[cloud raven]

sure you've seen sociology graduates, they are one and the same 😄

[copper sorrel]

There might be some truth to it actually. What is the reason for this do you think?

[cloud raven]

side effect of the brainwashing i think, or something in the water (they can turn frogs gay i heard)

[willow sentinel]

This is getting really borderline

[cloud raven]

Alex jones proved about the frogs and the water though so it's true

[willow sentinel]

You being disrespectful toward mods and gay people has nothing to do with a frog experiment

This will be the final message about that convo
Please move on to a last Epoch related convo since we are in #💬┃general

[simple bison]

I can assure you I've never dyed my hair and have no piercings of any kind

not that there'd be anything wrong with it if I had ever done any of that

[cloud raven]

aww pro victim here, hello

it's people like you that made chairs and tables have legs that stick out an inch to make people stub their toes

LE is pretty good, but not worth talking about, i guess i just leave this place

[willow sentinel]

Please do
It seems you have nothing positive to bring to the community

[untold heath]

I love this game. And I don't care about new content. But please remove the bugs.

[glass pendant]

I do. Buff falconer

Also good afternoon

[stark frost]

Removing bugs is an on-going effort that will never be finished so long as the game is receiving content. Some bugs will have a much higher priority to be fixed than others as is to be expected, as well as depending on difficulty of the fix and how easy it is to reproduce. This is why you see some bugs persist for years and others fixed within weeks or even a day, depending on severity.

[glass pendant]

did you say minority cyborg 😈

[untold heath]

Did anyone do some testing yet, which Evolutions are the most useful for a Evolution's End amulet?

[simple bison]

Just visiting here or the reddit or pretty much any social media puts you in a vocal minority basically. Maybe more people feel that way but can't be bothered to voice it at all but It would be way more

Gotta remember a big majority of people don't even get to empowered to start noticing a lot of the bugs

A lot of these things are like oh you're not getting 10% more damage or something, these aren't things people notice in the campaign

[glass pendant]

I'm mostly joking I know. Especially on discord there's like a couple dozens people talking regularly at most

Tiny fraction

[simple bison]

This is not me saying they shouldn't prioritise bugs btw. If it is coming off that way.

[night marten]

God devs just hit the easy buttom and fix all bugs without introducing new ones and not nuking anyones stashes while making insane new content every 4 months that is also totally bug free thanks

[untold heath]

It is very noticable that there are more bugs than before Season 3, sadly. Or I didn't notice them before, maybe? But this is definitely new: I keep getting kicked for inactivity in the middle of doing something. Or I get the countdown and nothing happens. Very annoying.

[glass pendant]

Where do I pay please

[simple bison]

Sounds like a major/debilitating bug is alone contributing to the perception that this season is way buggier. Not saying it's not, but a bug that basically stops you from playing prob feels just as bad as 100 small bugs that don't stop you from playing

My stance is that a few fairly major factors played a role as to why this patch both didn't add a ton of endgame as well as why it feels/is buggier than previous ones. Mainly the CT restructure and act 10

So hopefully season 4 and onwards will be more stable unless there's more big bumps like that

[night marten]

Tell me more about the restructure🙃

[sick flicker]

Halp there is no portal for "The Oracle's Aid"

[night marten]

Er....which one is that quest?

The four gems with alric?

[sick flicker]

Uhh it says: "Enter the Oracle's Abode in Maj'elka."

[simple bison]

Can't you just walk there?

[night marten]

You could just walk or waypoint there

Portal is a minor conveinence

[sick flicker]

Yea I talk to Alric and he says "Lets continue." but nothing happens

[night marten]

So just walk or waypoint

[sick flicker]

Ah ok

[night marten]

After you f8 that portal

[untold heath]

I don't mind a smaller package of new content if it is bug-free. But getting constantly kicked while adjusting loot filter or forging or sorting stash (all activities that hide the warnings in the chat), or getting a kick-countdown in the middle of doing an Echo that makes me panic and then nothing happens, is a major thing in my eyes. If it was only this "10% added damage missing", that wouldn't have that much impact on my playing experience ...

[simple bison]

Yep I 100% agree. I don't think anyone, even casual players would overlook / not notice a bug like that

[sick flicker]

thankies :D

[simple bison]

We were just referring to a previous conversation we had yesterday where people were suggesting them using an entire season dev cycle to just fix all the bugs that have been plaguing the game for a long time. Which wouldn't be what the majority wants. That was basically the whole thing

Obviously bugs like the one you're having should be a priority imo

[glass pendant]

more of a theoretical what if really

Or course something like that isn't a marketable product

[simple bison]

yep. I think pretty much every veteran that has been playing for years and will continue to play for the foreseeable future wouldn't be against it and may even support something like that. But the average player of the game wouldn't.

[glass pendant]

It's a little hard from a dev's perspective to prioritize "whom to please first". A new player is another copy bought, an older player contributes to retention and is more likely to interact with the cash shop. There have been games that famously saw a deep dive in numbers purely because the community caught wind the devs turned their back on them

I bet it feels like whackamole

[night marten]

And also no matter what the devs do it will never be enough/the wrong choice

[inner finch]

That's why Falconer needs more buffs

[glass pendant]

makes you realize games like elden ring and expedition 33 are such a one in a million case

surprisingly small number of unhappy players

[glass pendant]

My blade explosions only crit for 4 million this season but bear crits for billions. Discrimination I say

[inner finch]

E33 and Elden Ring did what they do in the best way anything was done on that particular game genre

so it makes sense

[glass pendant]

yeah I wonder what the arpg counterpart to that would be

[inner finch]

ARPGs are sort of born to have their fanbases split

[glass pendant]

even silksong that was so hyped has very evident flaws over hollow knight (that of course can be fixed with time)

[inner finch]

SSF vs trading, difficult vs streamlined

[glass pendant]

games like that seem so rare

[inner finch]

This will never be solved

[glass pendant]

D2 did come close but again it was a very simple game with virtually no endgame

[inner finch]

D2 had the advantage of having not many other options out there

The standard didnt exist, so it set it

[glass pendant]

Something about the itemization, I can't explain it

[inner finch]

I can explain it very simply, really

[glass pendant]

maybe the fact that everything can potentially be a gg drop of basically every rarity

[inner finch]

Pretty much

This is what totally didnt happen in a totally none existent totally not private server of its totally unrelated sequel

Players reaction to higher spectrum rolls on gear were very happy

[glass pendant]

Maybe that's what LE needs. Those blue +4 to Amazon gloves, or a gmod shield

[inner finch]

and rare gear was still the meta

[glass pendant]

grim dawn has the same issue. monster infrequents do add a very unique grind to the game but other than the 2-3 slots you'll slap them on, it's purple gear with set bonuses

basically WoW

[sick flicker]

Anyone know why on EU West my buddy has an 80 or higher ping? He's supposed to have around 25, like any other game he is playing. It's only on LE like that

[glass pendant]

are they using that German isp that has been having issues with LE lately

[sick flicker]

prolly not sure which one that is

[glass pendant]

telekom something. if they're German that's most likely the case

[sick flicker]

Ahh I see, imma tell him the bad news then :D

[glass pendant]

Another fallen soldier F

[sick flicker]

He'll try to use mobile tethering and bind it to LE so he can play normally :D

[glass pendant]

😭I felt that in my very soul

[sick flicker]

Its worse :D:D

Also on another note, is there no way I can give a buddy equipment?

[zinc bluff]

Ugh, how come reporting the scam dms doesn't actually get the individuals removed from this server, mods

[steep river]

Please DM the info to @grand geyser

[void ermine]

Can i leave an opinion here?
LE is the best game i dont want to play. I generally really like the game and support the devs, but every time i start a character i stop after playing like 10 monoliths. I dont know what it is. The game doesnt trigger long-term motivation to play for me. Anyone else having the same feeling? On paper i should love to play the game, but it doesnt capture me quite right...

[steep river]

If you want devs to see it, post your constructive criticism into one of the existing categories in the #1210281911872786482 or #1210282176680169562

[glass pendant]

You should probably also make it a tiny bit less vague

[void ermine]

Well, if i had constructive criticism or could be less vague i wouldnt have written what i wrote 🙁

i thought maybe someone could relate and see where the issue is

[ruby python]

Surely you know what some things are like, maybe you don't like the monolith loop, or the gear progression is too slow, or the attacks don't have enough impact/feel

[glass pendant]

They most likely wouldn't have the same issue as you based off of just that. Different people dislike different things

You gotta nail down your thoughts

[steep river]

You're welcome to talk about it here. I just meant if you had feedback or suggestion for the devs, post it over there so they'll see it

[void ermine]

honestly i truly dont know what it is. i was genuinly excited for the current season, but stopped 2 characters at monoliths

[ruby python]

then most likely it is the monolith loop

[glass pendant]

Are you sure you're ok with the repetitive nature of arpgs as a whole

They're grindy games by definition

[void ermine]

i put 8k hrs in PoE1 and played almost every other ARPG

[glass pendant]

interesting

Wish I could understand what pushes you away then

I mean the game doesn't obviously have nearly as much content as poe

[void ermine]

me too 😂

[glass pendant]

3 seasons vs dozens

[void ermine]

maybe a general lack of excitement while playing?

[glass pendant]

Have you tried just going with something strong. If you've played that much Poe I doubt a slow build would excite you

(I'm the same I can't stand weak hipster builds)

[void ermine]

i followed a build but i didnt like it, then i made my own. i blasted through campaign with my own build

[glass pendant]

My recommendation is, look at the vids channel, it's full of builds that delete the game. Anything can blast story

[void ermine]

maybe its because i dont feel like im playing towards something

[glass pendant]

You'd probably have more fun with something that clears screens

Yeah that comes back to the lack of content because of the game not being that old in relation to 1.0

[void ermine]

maybe the game needs a few more seasons to make it exciting for me

[glass pendant]

exactly

I've stopped this season early as well (I've blasted thousands of echoes)

Might wanna let the game cook in that case

[void ermine]

just hope theyll be cooking with krafton now without monetizing the crap out of the game. i bought all supporter packs, they were reasonable

current league was no influence from new publisher. guess we will see the real cooking after the next season?

well, ill keep following the updates 🤷‍♂️

[glass pendant]

That's the general expectation

2026 will be an indication

Most likely season 4 won't be affected positively or negatively

But yeah I think the solution to your problem is just let the game mature more

[median perch]

I need mtx for my Rift Beast, he's going bald

[loud fable]

Mike confirmed-confirmed that Skill Sigils aren't coming for S4. That's a bummer.

[willow sentinel]

Who know whats coming instead

https://tenor.com/view/multiversx-mvx-srb-egld-cryptocurrency-gif-881318722297681323

[loud fable]

Me & my reverse shell straight into EHG's mainframe!

JUST KIDDING

[willow sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[loud fable]

😭

[willow sentinel]

|ban Didiel

[loud fable]

...but what about the 2 other accounts?

🤔

!ban whatexactly

[willow sentinel]

|ban ip didiel

[willow sentinel]

Lets not use real command 😄

[loud fable]

Wait, it actually shows it in chat.

[willow sentinel]

Yup ^^

[loud fable]

That's interesting. Most apps nowadays show an "only for you" message.

Anyways, I was super hyped for Skill Sigils but given it's EHG, I'm more hyped to see what it is they think it's better than that.

[willow sentinel]

🙏

[quiet coral]

How can I fix it? It seems like the keyboard and gamepad are working at the same time. It also seems like there is an input lag.

[latent jacinth]

What're skill sigils? 😮

[loud fable]

We don't really know, if you look at the https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1cmi70f/last_epoch_roadmap_community_poll/ roadmap, you can see "Skill Sigils", there's a small description there but my guess is, they are (were?) supposed to be augmentations on top of the current skills that change them in crazy ways, not just numbers.

Warpath could suddenly change its shape, but deal more damage, and so on. I'd guess they're more down the functionality path than numbers.

[latent jacinth]

Looks like they swapped 1.2 and 1.3?

[simple bison]

yup

[loud fable]

They mainly did, yes. IIRC, lots of things got swapped.

[latent jacinth]

I definitely want "moar build customization", 100%. So skill sigils, even though I can only imagine what they are, are very exciting.

That being said, I'm running into the same problem I always have with this game... Hit corruption 300, simply get entirely unmotivated to keep going.

In fact, just closed the game this morning and instead was checking in here/the forums to see what to expect ahead. 😭 So...whatever comes next, just hope it's more things to drive a casual player as myself.

[loud fable]

That is the problem ARPGs face. "number go up" can only do so much, and there needs to be meaningful progression in the form of meaningful fights. Rehashing the same "big wave coming at me big wowowow i get stat on item wowoow" mechanic, especially in this market where so many interesting mechanics are put out by so many games, is just not gonna work for attracting new people/retaining most people. Yea, the hardcores will stay, but that's something else, and in a world like this, you have to grow.

The issue is clear, the fix is just my take on how I'd do it, but the progression curve, at least for LE, has been broken for a long time: get a super OP build going, go and nuke the old Uber boss - where's the interesting part, exactly?

[latent jacinth]

Oh yeah that's right they did add new bosses didn't they. Lol. I need to go kill him.

I just get 10 eyes and go to the door?

[loud fable]

Yesn't. If you mean what was added in this patch? No new Uber bosses, and the max-evolved turbo version of the Rift Beast is...well, not a challenge in the slightest.

[latent jacinth]

Naw, I meant whatever has been added since 1.0, really. I'm extremely casual/just check in sporadically.

[loud fable]

Oh, sure. Then you have Uber Abberoth. It'll be a decent experience, unless you're playing a broken build.

[loud fable]

Lowkey think the addition of a meaningful fight, together with some "small, but interesting" mechanic every patch, would do the trick for people like you. Seriously. The vast majority benefits way more from this: farm for your build -> attempt the boss -> find out you're weak <-> strategize <-> farm some more -> re-attempt the boss using new insights and ideas.

[latent jacinth]

Yeah, actually, what a great point.

I wish the Harbingers had been more (and I hate to bring it up!) like the guardians from old PoE1 days. There was often "four big bads" before the "really big bad" you were chasing around, and that was nice, as they could sometimes push your poo poo in, and you'd have to strategize just as you made the point there. I definitely prefer LE's more-linear system, however.

[loud fable]

Yea, it'd give you (and me) this fulfilling experience of farming for something, being excited when it drops because you can now use it, trying the boss again, seeing how the strategy changes, being able to progress even further into the boss. An experience that doesn't have meaningful progression like this ultimately gets left behind. Maybe not in a few months, not in a year, and this doesn't happen in a void, but eventually it does.

[loud fable]

That's exactly what they are, tho? With the culmination being Abberoth.

[latent jacinth]

Yeah but they're not difficult/do not seem to have any unique mechanics/are themselves not unique? Just a big bulky dude each time?

[loud fable]

Unfortunately, you're right. The "higher versions" from the special maps and higher CR do hurt, but they don't really hurt in meaningful ways, just more numbers. If you're playing any half-decent build, you'll be fine.

[hallow scroll]

Should Spirit Plague be staying up 100% of the time on a boss if I have the Cursed Blood node out of the Chaos Bolt tree and Im just spamming it?

Ciz it ain't

[severe socket]

Is Didiel running amok again?

[calm jay]

I hate running a build and then finding something halfway through that makes me want to change it. Well I love it, but I hate it

[pastel summit]

Then I gotta spend half an hour updating my loot filters since there's no sub-rules

[low cradle]

I probably wont play season 4.

The game is way to formulaic as is

[loud fable]

...thanks for letting us know, it's only ~4 months until then, but good to know from now. However, probabllllllllllyyyyyyyyy same. I'll buy the supporter packs, and play for 5-10h, but the game needs a good few more patches. For me, it helps a lot to think in terms of 0.3 instead of 1.3. This sounds a bit unfair but tbh, I can't force myself to feel any other way - there's no endgame. Was fun while we all got to discover all the neato things.

[verbal orbit]

just when i thought i was done with the season - i get a red ring from nem - thanks nem

[sick flicker]

guys me confused, I just got to a point where I have to choose a faction. Is giving trading bad for a new player?

[steep river]

It's however you prefer to play the game. The devs give two options so you can play how you like! If you want to get the exact item you're looking for from an auction house like screen, you'll like Merchant's Guild. If you prefer to grind the items yourself, you'll like Circle of Fortune. Just note that for MG items can only be bought/sold once in LE and there's no direct player to player trades. It's all done on an asynchronous Bazaar - so the other person doesn't need to be online. Also if you want to play offline, play CoF as MG doesn't give you any benefit offline.

[steep river]

You also can switch later, but you do have to remove items that require the item faction first.

[sick flicker]

Okay, what about pricing? How does that work in MG?

I generally don't mind either MG or ssf cof type of grinding items, but I worry that I might not find a specific item I want/need

At least compared to games like poe =D

[steep river]

You pick what you want to list items for. Some items can be very expensive.

[steep river]

Unlike PoE, items can only be bought/sold one time in LE.

[sick flicker]

So I could go cof for now, then if I dont find an item for a specific build I could/should switch to mg? Generally I enjoy farming stuff myself, but I aint a "hardcore grinder" if that makes sense

[steep river]

I personally like CoF, but yes, if you're looking for one specific item it can sometimes be difficult to find it. I so far have been able to complete every build I've wanted to try by farming the items. But some Seasons I don't always get the best items.

[sick flicker]

Hmmm decisions decisions

Say I chose CoF, which I do right now. And I wanted to change to MG. How would that work, which items specifcially are restricted then, all of my rare items I found or just very specific items I farmed with the help of CoF?

[steep river]

If you want to switch, it would have you unequip any gear or idols that have a CoF required purple symbol in the lower right. That would be the extra items that were generated from a CoF Rank bonus. Example, CoF Rank 1 gives:

Enemies have a 35% chance of dropping twice as many items.
So if that's procs the extra bonus items would have a CoF required symbol on it.

MG also does this - when you buy/sell an item, it puts MG symbol on it.

And later there's an Imprint system that you can use for extra drop chances. If you Imprint CoF or MG required items, the items generated by that also have item faction symbol. Or if you use MG or CoF required items in Legendary crafting, the resulting item has item faction required as well. That kind of thing.

[steep river]

Was there a specific build you were looking at? Or just making your own build as you go

[sick flicker]

I usually make my own builds but look up some for inspiration or if someone talks about a specific item

Basically build enabling items I usually look up but overall I make it work on my own

And those items Im most worried about of not finding

Thanks for all the info/help by the way :)), I really appreciate it

[steep river]

You'll probably enjoy CoF then. It's all about dropping tons of items. Lots of Rank bonuses for extra and improved item drops. Prophecies from the Observatory area are kind of like little quests: kill X enemy in Y location get Z extra loot. Just note that Prophecies only do random drop items, kind of like how Rune of Ascendence works. Although CoF Rank 10 bonus makes the bosses drop 2-3 of their boss only items when they'd normally drop 1. So you can still farm boss only drops as well.

[sick flicker]

Okay cool I just joined it too :)), what about gifting my buddies? If they are in the same faction can they receive gifts with resonance or while playing together?

[steep river]

If you're playing together in the same area and an item drops, you can just give it to them with item gifting. If you're not playing together in the same area, then you can use resonance for that. Although it can take a while to build up resonance. In game, push G key for in game guide and at the top search for "item gifting" for info

[glass pendant]

keep in mind if it's an imprint drop you need a resonance, same area or not

[sick flicker]

Gotcha and matching faction I suppose

[sick flicker]

Okay, cool off I go grinding. thanks :D

[steep river]

Yes. Although you can still give them items that don't have CoF symbol if they're MG

[sick flicker]

Alrighty c:

[torn holly]

Does phantom grip work with carrion of creation

like could you use serpents milk + carrion of creation + phantom grip and get all the poison chance from milk converted to bleed?

[willow sentinel]

Yes

Also Morditas Reach

[torn holly]

neat

[sick flicker]

Is it possible to filter for Tier in inventory/storage somehow?

[torn holly]

look at the "stash searching" section of the game guide

[sick flicker]

Aight thanks

[inner finch]

"Serpent's Milk" has implications

Any Elder Scrolls enjoyers?

[teal bone]

I'm fairly new to Last Epoch. Do some Runes not drop until higher levels? I'm asking because I just hit Monos and am still missing 6 different Rune types 🙁

[violet jetty]

Some are very rare such as Havoc, so save those until you really need them. To farm them, try using a mix of methods between the rift beast drops, the cof prophecies, and general echo rewards.

[upper current]

yea but waiting for over 50% off oblivion remastered..i never played that

[teal bone]

okay thank you

[steep river]

Yes, for example you can use T7 to highlight items with T7 affix. These two patch note pages talk about the various stash macros and regex https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-patch-1-2-3-notes/77541#ui-visuals-and-movement-13 - scroll down a little
and
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-beneath-ancient-skies-patch-notes/78635#heading--qol - also down about a page to the Stash Macros section

[light charm]

Hiyas, I'm not sure if this is better to be asked in the looking for group channel, but I am looking for a kind soul to please give me advice and help me get started with the Circle of Fortune faction. I have basically only played Merchant's Guild since Beta, and I know some about COF, but I am willing to learn with the right person. Thank you for the replies and the help!

[simple bison]

Anything in particular you're wondering or just everything about the faction in general?

[light charm]

well, i have just watched prophecy strategies and a general COF guide by Binacq that was just posted today, so general info but also gearing strategies. Gonna be tough because all my gear is Merc. I have only one character, Level 96 Beastmaster with Lightning/Cold Wolves.

[simple bison]

Yeah swapping from mg to CoF will be rough since you won't be able to use any gear you bought

[light charm]

precisely @simple bison but I keep running out of gold so I figured it is worth a try

[simple bison]

I would almost recommend starting a new character tbh. Unless you really don't want to play a different build

[light charm]

I am kind of tunnel focused on my one main

really seems the wolves are gonna rock i'm up to about 332 corruption on most of my timelines atm

[simple bison]

Then stick to it but just know you'll take quite a few steps back in progression when you swap since you'll lose close to all your gear

[light charm]

....but i do get killed kind of often still case my gear is not top notch yet

[simple bison]

No loss no foul then :P

[light charm]

yeah true that

thought it would be more fun to play with COF again though, game's been getting a bit routine

[simple bison]

Just make sure you get a full set of good enough gear before swapping and you can lower the corruption of your timelines to make the transition easier

And by get I mean drop

[light charm]

uhuh or partner with a COF to get the Favor

[simple bison]

Well if you party with someone in CoF gear they drop will likely require higher ranks to equip

[light charm]

haven't felt like p[laying for over a week honestly b/c I started a new job and I have been very busy putting it together

hmmmm yah

[simple bison]

So it wouldn't help much. If you just meant for the favor then it doesn't matter what faction they are

[light charm]

yeah

my corruption is actually a bit high I reckon rn

[simple bison]

But yeah I'd just go ahead with the swap and then go at your own pace. Definitely lower your corruption though

[light charm]

will have to lower it slightly to around 250 i imagine

Shrines of Eterra right?

[simple bison]

You'll slowly make it back to where you are and then surpass it

[simple bison]

Sanctuary of eterra echo ya

[light charm]

uhuh the drops sound insane I have talked and played with COF peeps and they often get massive loots

yep ok how do those spawn?

[simple bison]

They'll always be at the center of your web

[light charm]

ah ok right i sorta forgot been a few seasons or so and i got back at Season 3 Launch

[simple bison]

You're good

[light charm]

seems a lot of folks have dropped out already for S3?

i don't see the few friends i have added for a while now

[simple bison]

Yeah this season wasn't as endgame heavy because of the new campaign chapter

[light charm]

ayup and Ch10 is great

[simple bison]

Hopefully next season will last a bit longer for people

[light charm]

biggest thing I wanted to get into S3 for was seeing the fish swimming in the new water physics 🙂

yeah

gee mebbe i will make a VC with a COF tag or something and see if anyone joins