🪦┃hc-discussion

[tame ruin]

first

[vapid yarrow]

2nd

[sweet yacht]

👋

[silver raven]

Awesome, now pick a base discord emote to rep your channel

[sand edge]

new channel

[desert osprey]

Cool, just lost my new character thanks to a disconnect today 💀

[sand edge]

⚔️

[desert osprey]

Skull

[tame ruin]

💀

[desert osprey]

💀

[sand edge]

actually yea makes sense

[silver raven]

Already taken by #💀┃acolyte

[desert osprey]

Noooooo

[sand edge]

remove acolyte from game then

[silver raven]

Nope, it's been here longer

[desert osprey]

☠️

[sand edge]

🛡️

[tame ruin]

⚰️

[desert osprey]

🌈

[vapid yarrow]

bro eggplant is blocked

[sand edge]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[vapid yarrow]

🤡

[sand edge]

💥

[sweet yacht]

❗

[tame ruin]

🏴‍☠️

🏴‍☠️ ☠️ ⚰️ either of these 3 so far makes most sense,

[silver raven]

⚔️ - 🪦 - 🆘 - 🏴‍☠️

[sand edge]

save swords for arena channel

if it will get ever made

[silver raven]

Absolutely not

Booooo, Pirate flag is an unsupported emoji

[sinful torrent]

It looks odd without the |

[silver raven]

We just fixed that

[sinful torrent]

Oh beat me to it

[silver raven]

There, done, sorted! Enjoy!

[hazy lynx]

GG

[heavy torrent]

shame it wasn't eggplant

[loud wadi]

Yessss

[azure hemlock]

is this the judgement paladin channel

[tame ruin]

its 2nd sentinel channel

[manic schooner]

anyone got a 1k corr hc build running OTHER THAN A PALADIN

[frank trench]

monkaaa

[frank trench]

nado bear or shaman nado

stormcrows, anbomination, roid mage, flame wraith(with gear), totems should be ok

torment should bestill strong or laser lich

also shield bash fg if you wsnt to be atrue gigachad

timerot orb op but need some gear to get going

[upper granite]

🦬
Herdcore

[sweet yacht]

Btw did they manage to fix the FK faction reset?

[oak steppe]

Anyone in empowered monos that can help me? Empowered monos won't unlock for me after it bugged out and I read i'd need someone to basically taxi me in by killing a 100 corruption boss/harbinger to progress the quest

[sweet yacht]

Ah, that brings me directly back to my question ^^ Did a char from you with Forgotten Knights rank die before that?

Sadly can't help you, my HC toon is SSF this time

[oak steppe]

It bugged after I completed one of the lvl 90 monos in a group. It spawned a harbinger and when I went to the shattered road and talked to the npc, it gave me the quest to kill a 100 corruption harbinger but didn't unlock empowered monos. I went back and did all 3 lvl 90 monos again and no luck.

[sweet yacht]

Ah ok, cause it sounded first like the bug from last season, where you had troubles to unlock empowered after dying with FK ranks.
But as said, sadly can't help for now 😦

[oak steppe]

All good. Just sucks my character is bricked right now til I can get that quest progressed lol

[sweet yacht]

Can absolutely relate that 🫂

Keep asking ingame/here. I found someone for the same thing (different reason) deep into 1.1.7 - you should find someone the next days that could help with that

[oak steppe]

Will do, thanks!

[limber oxide]

Hi fellow HC gamers, I'm playing softcore, but I'd like to try my build in a HC run. However I really have troubles to figure out how to get tankier in this game. Any advice ? (I know some of my res aren't capped rn, I just changed some blessing and haven't solved this yet).

Here is the character, concept is simple : rain javelins to trigger smite and both will apply hundreds of electrify stacks.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJDD8PYo

[cursive onyx]

Paladin, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Paladin (91)

General:

▸ Health: 2,432, Regen: 182.47/s
▸ Mana: 158.09, Regen: 11.17/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 3 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 138% / 63% / 97% / 109% / 129% / 58% / 136%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 630
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,057)

Used skills:

Javelin / Smite / Holy Aura / Symbols of Hope / Rebuke

[sweet yacht]

You have high armor, endurance and crit protection - resis look good enough for now. But taking a 2h weapon really is a statement for HC, you give up a LOT defense by doing so on a sentinel.
Other than block you could look for direct damage reductions like Red Rings (don't fit too great into your build for now) or Abberoth chest - not sure tho if I would takle Abby with not even 10k EHP.
Oracle Amulet is always a great pick in HC btw.

Ah just see, you can improve your HP a lot

[limber oxide]

Oracle Amulet is the one with less dmg over time implicit ?

[limber oxide]

How so, Do I have a bad ratio %health vs flat health ? Because I still have at least T5 hp wherever I can afford it or did I forget some slots ?

[sweet yacht]

I mean I'm for sure not a super pro HC player, that's maybe why I personally would need a lot more. My hands start to sweat like crazy when I attempt a boss and know I have just a single life 🙂

In HC I would never not slam/use a chest with T7 increased HP and would try to squeeze in as much exalted HP stats as I can. I usually aim for 3,5k HP in HC at least, rather 4-4,5k

[limber oxide]

It is true I focused more on damaging exalted affixes despite already having way enough damage.

I appreciate the help. Have a nice day.

(And I can handle regular Abby on this build)

[sweet yacht]

I was never able to beat Abby in HC, but could first-try him with a char that I lost before in HC. 😄 Describes me as a HC player perfectly 🙂

[silver raven]

Being worked on, hopefully have a fix soon! - #1230893914123145216

[silver raven]

We fixed most cases where this could happen but one still exists and it's being put through the ringer now, I am keeping eyes on testing progress but I don't have any more information right now!

[wet mist]

👀

[rough sphinx]

Normal that champ mob in a tomb does 5k dmg with an arrow attack thats basically instant? died with 4k hp 500 ward up RIP 😄

[tame ruin]

what corruption?

[desert osprey]

arrow attack champ 🤔
The fire engineer dude from osprix zones?

never tried cold thorn totem, it's so good in the beginning

[floral glacier]

There's 0 reason not to cap resistances. Can go to 100 to be resistant to shreds and marked for death.

Definitely switch to a wand and shield. Increase armor, block rate, block effectiveness, and get armor applies to damage over time.

Most likely you will die to damage over time with this build. Frostbite stacks would be my guess.

You could consider using healing hands as a ward generator as well if you swapped in some lost health gained as ward pieces.

I'm not sure what rebuke is doing for you that you love. Consider swapping that for healing hands or a melee ability that u can indirectly case smite with.

You should honestly be fine as long as you keep up with your abilities and be safe when your defensives are on cooldown. Maybe don't try to push corruption right off the bat. Just stay at normal monos til like lvl 90.

https://www.twitch.tv/gankrex/clip/AbstruseAuspiciousGoldfishUnSane-AIdQnWMN8V9O5DDp

Frostbite slaps

[tame ruin]

yeah i mean, i would not come close to any champ on hc

[sudden cave]

I've been playing exclusively hardcore and thus far each run has been ended by champions (And once to a mis-timed move into a Lagon Moon blast)

Possessed champions are such insane dangers, both before and after empowered content. It feels like there just aren't adequate defenses available to a majority of builds to handle them. Bring able to smoothly handle harbingers but then b ing near instantly killed by the first possessed champion feels terrible

A lot of damage reduction gear is tailored towards classes which already have a chunk of it. And Shields/Block are too important to be using most catalysts

Build variety in HC keeps bringing me back to looking at druid and Sentinels as the most survivable classes. Glancing Blow is a powerful mechanic but it needs a lot to cap, and dodge feels like it's hard to rely on, because you either avoid damage or you take it. And at the moment taking any damage from the champions is a death sentence.

Ward despite reaching good numbers (2-5k) just vanishes in fights. It doesn't feel like it's a suitable defensive layer when it gets blown straight through. And sources of healing/recovery are so tailored towards primalist and sentinel it feels stupid to try and play anything but if I want to actually progress anywhere in empowered monoliths.

[north lion]

A dedicated channel to Judgement Paladin? Didn't expect this

[jagged ermine]

deadge

[jagged ermine]

i have not played hardcore but i can definitely see the issue

some classes just have options for defense while others do not

[north lion]

Ward generation is absolutely a viable defensive layer in my experience and it is only natural that the build diversity in HC would be lower due to the very nature of the game mode.

[minor mist]

Just want to say, that Lagons moonbeam in monoliths killed my killed my previous two hc chars 😁

[sudden cave]

Considering 5k went in about a second to a Death Grips + Witch posessed ghost dog... doesnt' feel like it (Max res)

[north lion]

5k isn't a lot in terms of max Ward and what also matters is your generation

It's a decent amount but it's not a tonne

It's not like you would get 5k life and just call it a day

You want other layers of defence, you want good recovery etc

If you want to fully lean into just Ward then you'll want a lot more Ward and a lot of recovery

[sudden cave]

Well the other thing which I've found is the Champion modifiers and the new posessed modifiers ignore CC such as Freeze and Stun and can/will go off regardless of those effects. Which kind of begs the question why bother building for them at all if it's better to just kill them far faster.

[loud wadi]

anybody want to start up in HC?

[mental patrol]

nemesis has blessed me in HC

bleeding heart with 51% phys res

already got ele res cap and almsot phys cap at level 25 xd

[acoustic snow]

you can literally sit on the stairs just in front of his tentacle the whole time and none of his attacks can hit you :D

only works if you have ranged attacks though

[gilded finch]

bro...how is this game ready for hardcore mode ? I just watched my character slowly die....damage ticking...with nothing around me...no dots...only because of lag. and in the end got disconnected.

what a way to go out

[fossil igloo]

That will just happen in general with any game… the random HC kick in the teeth

[gilded finch]

tottaly understandable if it was on my side and my internet was acting up.
but if it's server related they could have ways to counter it or at least detect it's an issue on their side and reroll the character back..

[sweet yacht]

No offense, but if you thinking restoring HC chars is an option - NO matter what circumstances they died - you will not have much fun when playing HC.
Imo only sign in for HC, when you can accept a character loss, even to disconnects, lags, unclear hit boxes, whatever
Every other expectation is unrealistic imo

[minor mist]

Did not know that. Will try it next time in campaign.

[acoustic snow]

I just sit on the right side, just spam click the stairs leading up to the man himself
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fcan-we-please-fix-the-lagon-fight-v0-y09rt7pvbldd1.png%3Fwidth%3D3440%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D4bd72e8f7536176e6185c467859e1c6940b14afc basically where this guy is standing

[crisp elm]

hey guys. is there a list of players somewhere that killed uber abby on hc? 😉

[frank trench]

yes, ask joemomma

[dusk plume]

What is hardcore? Permadeath gamemode?

[robust storm]

Yes, but it becomes a softcore character so you can choose to continue

I have not played season 2 yet, have anyone figured out the most OP hardcore class?

[dusk plume]

Paladin?

[limber oxide]

My understanding is there are 3 easier to build HC class :

• Bear/Human regen Primalist
• Judgement Paladin
• Void Knight has several strong build as well
  But tbh you can really play any build, some will just need more caution are to pause to farm crit immunity and such ...

[mental patrol]

judgement paladin very smooth and easy, totem shaman incredibly tanky starting early on with toons of free res

and with the mantle of ox and Seed of Ekkdrasil or whatever helmet my crappy built shaman with 2300hp was surviving (not killing) uber abby

[sudden cove]

Has anyone tried the chill time rot VK build yet?

[frank trench]

maxroll guide is good but needs a lot of gear that is hard to get, if you are playing on hc use their planner but change shield to bulwark of abyss and use 2 piece set amul+sword

or aurora amulet+new 1h WW sword with dot and slow+bulwark

overall solid hc build since u dont need to get to enemies, it has full screen aoe just needs op gear for minmaxed version so u need to adapt to hc

[faint garden]

just died, my first ever playthrough, 91lvl 😦

[sweet yacht]

rip

First ever playthrough, or first HC playthrough?

[faint garden]

first ever, just switched from poe

[sweet yacht]

Not too bad then I guess. Can't imagine to play an arpg in HC that I don't know well from SC before ^^

[minor mist]

Rip, but definitely not bad for your first char. What killed you?

[faint garden]

T4 chronomancer

[minor mist]

She hits hard. Dont think i have even tried killing her on hc before. I usually die to some stupid mistake way before.

[sweet yacht]

I never saw Julra T4 as a challenge, not even on meme builds. Then I started on HC and all of a sudden she is scary as hell 😄

[bright pebble]

That is VERY impressive, that you got that far. T4 Julra is the hardest boss after Abby.

[faint garden]

I got overconfident and kinda started to be bored, and then I got the belt I needed which was 85lvl so I had to do her, and that's it for me

[north lion]

How high corruption can a decently geared judgement paladin safely push?

[north lion]

It’s a game mode for try hards and sadists

[north lion]

Depends on what you mean by decently I suppose

[north lion]

Isn’t instant phasing Julra just a thing people do these days?

[bright pebble]

Well, yes, if you have a high dps build. And it's probably harder on HC, since you build more defensively. Another thing is that it is very easy to get barely clipped by beams (due to camera angle) and die instantly. Don't ask me how I know that.

[chrome tiger]

Gonna paste it here from the ask-the-dev channel as well and see your reaction as you guys also play HC:

*Can we add a "real" hardcore option when creating the character? So once you die, you can't be revived. This might be optional to the current option where you can be revived.

We are HC players with my friend and once we realized we can be revived, it took away the thrill. We decided not to play at all. It kinda sucks as we love the game and we studied it on softcore, but this option totally takes away the feeling of paying extra attention.

Now, you can play on HC, you can die, and you can still have everything you had, kinda pointless*

[tame ruin]

Majority of true HC players just pretend that character that died doesn't exist, similar to PoE. Once it in standard, its dead.

[chrome tiger]

That's the point - the difference of the feeling. I can play on SC and still pretend it's HC. I don't want to pretened. I want the game to give me that feeling

[tame ruin]

Well it's mostly you problem then, if you start the HC character with intent to continue playing even if it dies, it's not true HC.
I don't know why you care if it's dead or SC, if you play HC exclusively you just click delete character and thats it.

[chrome tiger]

I want to know that every step I make is important and subject to a big change

Yeah, that makes sense but I hope you get my point as well

In your scenario - we (players) are actually controlling the situation what happens after the character dies

I'm not asking to entirely change the HC mode, but add an option where you can't be revived

[tame ruin]

I mean im sorry, dont really understand your point at all. You enter big boss, you die, thats it. There is no continuation on that character. You can practice the fight on SC later, but your HC char is dead, you made mistake.

As i said, if you play HC exclusively, like me, you just press delete

Unless you want to practice uber boss fight

[chrome tiger]

thanks for the feedback

[dusty pendant]

As you asked for HC opinions, I don't care about this. I behave similarly to Holy.

[lean kernel]

My primary defence is ward. I have all resistances capped, capped crit avoidance and 2k hp. I have completely ignored armor. Is this bad?

[cold spindle]

My current highest now is 48 Sadge

Am sad af, felt op.

ONE LAST FIGHT i said.

Always that one last effin' fight

https://www.twitch.tv/ragingpuss/clip/AverageBillowingOpossumDancingBaby-wo7nGCbSqnnkX0zG 😦

[lean kernel]

Don't play late night hard-core 🙂

[cold spindle]

it is not even late

i just... wanted one last zone before going in an other game kekw

good thing LE doesnt have parthenon from diablo, i would be ashamed of my deaths

(like am ashamed on my d4 ones)

[lean kernel]

I agree with you. Revives in hard-core should not be allowed.

[north lion]

you cant revive in hardcore lol

you can revive in softcore when you die

[cold spindle]

i delete if i die in hardcorei dont wanna play a looser who died

[lean kernel]

thats what I do too but I do think revive is unnecessary in HC.

[sweet yacht]

I play both, HC and SC. But when I make a HC char and it dies, I usually delete it.
I made two exceptions for myself, I kept one char to play in SC cause I had rerolled it in SC anyways (and it is pain to level to 100 with bees) and I kept one for my personal hall of fame, cause I want to remember it.

I actually like both systems, the char going to SC on death, or the perma death version.

For HC players it ends up same, the char gets deleted. But going to SC may be the better option for more casual players I guess.

[gilded finch]

I lost 3 characters to lag at this point. I'm done... I love the HC aspect of the game...but I just can't anymore.
Every time I died the same way
Go into a map / monolith..
Everything is fine at first.
Stop to check loot on the ground > Next pack of monsters I encounter . They can deal damage to me...but I can't dmg them. My character is doing the attack animation. But in my example Flame nova wasn't showing ..
I really respect people that keep trying in HC after losing characters like me.
But I just can't.
Good luck...I'll check some other time

Also just a conspiration theory....are HC servers hosted on lower priority servers / networking ? I never had these issues while playing normal mode.
It's just weird that it happened on all my characters ...and only on HC servers.

[cold spindle]

why im bad at this game

why i decide to check my spell in the wild.

[patent heron]

I've had constant rubberbanding issues, and they didn’t care the whole season about the few people affected by it. The problem is that some of the servers don’t handle certains routing or protocols well, and I guess they have never had a clue about it... every launch they have done has always had networking problem. They have blocked (or rather, don’t support) almost all the protocols and DNS settings that VPNs use.

Now, fun fact: you can force a stable connection by using the UDP protocol and setting custom DNS to 1.1.1.1 and 9.9.9.9 who also prove my point of blocking your potential solution. I guess they did that against bot. But before they had to make sure that their connection is solid. It’s honestly really disappointing.

But since it only affects a minority, they don’t seem to care. Still, constant rubber banding and occasional lag spikes enough to get you killed in HC should have been a priority. And the worst part? They block your potential fixes, and you’re left having to find some niche workaround on your own. And the only solution i found is to force a vpn into a few specific settings

And don't get it wrong, I have an excellent connection with other game into 20ms without lost packet

[sweet yacht]

😩

[quartz crown]

Hi, do u think ward IS better (the best) defensive then HP/endurance/regen?

[tame ruin]

last patch yes

this patch no

[quartz crown]

So if you would start a new toon, with no bias to any class, what would it be (in HC)

[tame ruin]

Sentinel

[north lion]

sentinel is the best in hc i think

[quartz crown]

Yeah, iam a bit salty now coz my lvl88 druid just died to stupid harbinger ať corruption 100 🥺

Full res, 60% Armor mitigation, 105% crit avoidance, 3000hp

[north lion]

roll a judgement paladin

[quartz crown]

And his attack critted me

Yeah i heard 🙂 sentinel is op

Which why i am not playing it

Last season had Shield bash ..that was OK

Loved that over 100% block

But that skill gave me a headache

[tame ruin]

It is not THAT op tho, its just other masteries is dog tier

[quartz crown]

Agree

[north lion]

does max mana matter on judgement like it does on warpath?

[tame ruin]

I would not roll judgement for allrounder myself imo, the clear is kinda ass and it really shines only on uber abby with giga tanky setup

Any VK is much better sentinel

[north lion]

i dont wanna die 😓

[tame ruin]

you will not if you dont do uber abby tho

[quartz crown]

I would not get that far, never killed normal abberoth

[north lion]

i've died multiple times on my vk a few times to random 1shots

[quartz crown]

Tried Once with Avalanche shamam and died

[north lion]

i forget which mobs

[tame ruin]

you will die to laser and soulfire bastion explosions regardless of sentfinel build

even if its judgment

[quartz crown]

U have to have that Shield for the right element

Otherwise u cant die

😊

[tame ruin]

I meant with the weaver tree node

[north lion]

when can I do soulfire bastion t3

[quartz crown]

Aj sorry

[tame ruin]

on hc never

[north lion]

wdym

[tame ruin]

if you use portal charm in that dungeon, the game tps you into zone before boss arena

and you can get exploded by the big guys

there is plenty people who died like that

[quartz crown]

Fu*k...thats bad 😆

They do so many fixes, should have look into this as well

[sweet yacht]

Nope

And I agree strongly that avoiding Soulfire Bastion is a very good idea. Only run it with portal charms and only after you know you will kill the boss in 2-4 seconds.
That arena can become a visual mess quickly. Not a big deal in SC, super easy boss. But in HC it has some little potential to kill a char quite surprisingly

[minor mist]

Just tried this and it went fine untill he one shot me with one of his other abilites. Not sure what it was it went so fast 😭

[opal shore]

Ive played two chars to 90+ in HC and havent lagged one time. Perhaps there is something with your particular server? Im US east or w/e. Sorry though, that sucks

[zenith raft]

wait can hc chars play in coop with non hc chars?

[sweet yacht]

No that is not possible

[gilded finch]

2 characters died arond 30-40 ish. Last one now was 62. Just started monoliths. 60K dmg with molten orb and that was with random equipment and not ideal passives. I'm really not happy
I've went on and checked everything on my side....no other apps lost connection. No network issues on my side.
It's just painful putting hours , effort and planning into a character.
Just to see it taken away in the most miserable way ever.
I have the image of the red dmg coming from my character as it was dying engrained in my brain.
I would really love to give it another go ...but I just can't. Not unless they take some measures to prevent this somehow. Either instantly disconnect a character at the slightest network issue. Or reroll it back a couple minutes if something unusual happens.

[sweet yacht]

Never had such issues myself, neither in SC or HC, but sounds painful. 🫂
You can try to counter lags up to a few sec maybe with over gearing and regen/LL builds, but at a certain point HC get's unplayable.
To make you hope: My teammate with that I play LE mostly, had bad connection issues at some point in 1.0

We never found out what made the problems on his end but one day it suddenly worked again. 🤞

[sweet yacht]

If that was server related, we had a very hot general chat in about one minute.
People have lags in online games and LE has ofc some known performance issues, but the described performance can't be a serverwide problem, or we'd know in a min.

[gilded finch]

Whenever I died I did make a new HC character and speak with people about it. Some people experienced in the past but I'm guessing I just gave up a lot quicker than the other ones.

[sweet yacht]

As said I have seen severe connection issues from a friend. Was a painful time for us and I absolutely feel the frustration.

We tried so much stuff from drivers to settings and contacting the isp.

[signal thistle]

you could just play offline you know

[gilded finch]

can you play hc offline ? O_O

don't give me hope like that...how ?

[tame ruin]

you login to offline and.... click hc?

[gilded finch]

omfg -_-" how did I never see that option

but then....can you take your offline character to online play? as in....does it rank up on the ladder etc? Not that it matters now..just asking the question

[tame ruin]

no

[gilded finch]

good enough for me...at least it's going to get me playing HC again....I can't find the same joy in playing normal mode

[cold spindle]

Softcore isnt even real.

😄

[frank trench]

I think you are tripping or have ui bug check your menu again. Its definitely there

[cold spindle]

it is my inside joke where i always play hardcore cuz it change the game totally - i haven't reach post level 40 but I dont blame the game, I am bad. ^^

[cold spindle]

Bleeding lich sounds good for now owo am just hella scared when i get low (even in lich) lol

[sage geyser]

I only had this problem once, on a fire warpath build in softcore.
Never figured out the problem, but it hadn't happened again.
Thinking about playing hardcore, though I'm not sure what build I'd go for.

[cold spindle]

if anyone wanna give me tips on survive in hc, like useage of the forge, etc, for now i just sell evrything and gear the uniques that are usefull to me 🤷‍♀️

[cold spindle]

deadge at 34

[woeful skiff]

ripge

[cold spindle]

Should have dodged the two scorpid elite strikes

KEKW

I cant learn, i am stuck at this zone

Scorpids and snakes

[woeful skiff]

I always try to get some resists early, namely physical, void, necrotic

[cold spindle]

and Deaths

[woeful skiff]

then health on all slots that allow for it

[cold spindle]

Yeah my resist was dumb this playthrough

I am not used to the forge yet, I just use a filter to not get spam with useless loot.

[woeful skiff]

and depending on your build some sort of recovery is also nice, be it regen or leech

[woeful skiff]

ah, I see

In that case pick up all the affix shards you can find

[cold spindle]

I love how all my games are different, I always want to play the same then I am like 'oh something else'

[woeful skiff]

Health and resist ones are very common, don't feel bad to use them

[cold spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-dory-dory-gif-7494713

[woeful skiff]

If you feel powerful enough you can also do the Nemesis encounters and empower them

they give you crazy loot that carries you far

[cold spindle]

so i can just destroy items i like the affixe/prefixe and puit them in a rare?

[woeful skiff]

Yeah, you can use Rune of Shattering on items that have the affixes you like

and then get shards. The rune can be bought at npcs for 2k a pop

Then if you pick up something that looks alright from the ground put it in your forge and craft away

if you outgrow / replace your item just shatter it again

[jagged elbow]

Hi all, is anybody experiencing any 'lag'-like issues after the patch today? I just died because my character was not allowed to use any abilities. Could still use health pots but my HP was going down and I could not use any skills or dashes until I died. Checked my internet and there were no lost packages. Feels readlly bad/unfair

[jagged elbow]

having the same issue in offlide mode

I can move, use potions but not use skills, evade or attack

[frank trench]

Have u checked hotfix

If you played wasd thats the bug they just fixed

[jagged elbow]

yeah just realized. RIP my favorite character though 😦

[gilded finch]

Welcome to the club...If you scroll above you will see how I lost 3 characters that way.
❤️ I have swapped to offline mode and seems stable for now.
Sad that I can't see HC chat..

[cold spindle]

Wait there's a chat pogg (joke)

[sick maple]

I want to ask something about that WASD thing. I have experienced the exact same issue, not being able to use skills, but I dont play WASD and have never done. Is it solely WASD experiencing the bug?

[crimson wharf]

Yessss finally a HC chatroom! So happy to see this 😁

[cold spindle]

im addict to laste poch

i cant play other game more than 45 mins

last epoch time flies by

My few days been like 'let's try this game, nvm back to epoch'

[gilded finch]

do you guys know some games have a discord integration where.
you can see the real time in game chat in discord?
This would just benefit my case right now as I'm playing offline HC....but if others could benefit from it as well.. I don't see why it can't be added here

[errant bronze]

Rip, my Sentinel died at level 79 the minute I respected into Void Knight
Time to go again

[sweet yacht]

RIP

[tough raven]

Can't believe Forgotten Knights Faction progress getting reset after creating alt char or dying on HC is still a thing. Thought it was fixed/addressed multiple times. Submitted in game bug report, hopefully it wont stay this way. Anyone else?

[woeful skiff]

Yeah I had this issue on my alts too

I'm taking a break right now because I don't want to go through all the Harbingers again

[young crown]

ya ive had my forgotten knights reset multiple times

have submitted bug reports

[solar isle]

Same...its actually why stopped playing this last week...was getting tired of the resets

[cold spindle]

yoooo wtf

scary moment, i tried to tp to town and it said my last epoch was outdated

like wut. XD

[manic schooner]

instance change

[cold spindle]

I just alt f4'd XD

[floral glacier]

Today I died to a champion hitting me for a 3400 in a 100c empowered mono. I had 100% reduced bonus dmg from crits. That would have been a 6800 crit? In 100 corruption?

[quartz crown]

Same happened to me few days back (but to a harbinger of abbomination,

2000hp, 105% crit avoidance,63 % endurance, 1200trashold, almost capped Armor, BUT my necrotic resist was low (around 20-30)

[floral glacier]

Yeah can't be doin that lol learned my lesson on low res long ago. My lowest res was like 73.

Idk if the newer mobs are just overtuned or if crit avoidance/reduced bonus damage is bugged, but I'm not sure why there's such a huge 1 shot potential in baseline empowered monos.

[north lion]

Not had this issue myself

[balmy cove]

Killed uber aberroth for the 1st time today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXjMlKJTC18

Made a much tankier version of judgement, takes only 1400 dmg ticks from timeshattering slam, but is also much lower dps

[sweet yacht]

Lol and I poor fool thought I may beat you in arena last season 😬

Crazy mate, much respect!
That is really awesome

[round knot]

I died right now during lagon, i was with my acolyte and was casting profane veil and died in 1 hit is that normal ?

1.4K hp and 3K ward

that boss is a pain XD rip

[woeful skiff]

sounds normal to me #acolytelife

[round knot]

I know ... but damn i was inside the profane veil maybe is bugged that boss or whatever.... i wond try to kill him anymore XD now im trying with the druid seems pretty fun to play even if my love is for the acolyte 🙂

[floral glacier]

Lagon has many hardcore dog tags in his collection.

[sweet yacht]

He has only killed me once in HC, but that was a really tough thing: When you play Lagoon in multiplayer only one player gets teleported automatically.
Upon 50% my mate was teleported, and I opened a portal.... and died to a Moon Blast upstairs while my mate was already fighting adds downstairs.

Always be super careful in a team here. Now that I'know this, I have often seen that he does one more attack after phase1 - something you never see when you play alone 🙂

[north lion]

Petition to rename HC to JC

[floral glacier]

So if you're the friend and you just don't enter the actually instance, and stay down the stairs, you will end up downstairs and someone will be teleported down there with you. I did this in a trio when 2 went in and 1 stayed out. 2 ended up downstairs. 1 stayed upstairs during the ads phase.

[sand arch]

So how does HC work in LE? Is it just HC until you die and then you are SC again?

[sharp marlin]

yes

[quartz crown]

Correct, + your stash stays in HC too (and depending if u are solo or account find)

[pliant pendant]

Yo never realized there was a channel for this.

Was curious about glacier sorc. Like it sounds like you generate alot of ward from ward based on mana and gain spent mana as ward stuff and can do some spicy stuff with large mana pool for extra tank. However not sure how it plays currently, like you still one shot basic packs with it but hows the scaling for up to 300c ?

[sweet yacht]

The channel is quite new 🙂

Not sure, your question is about the offensive capabilities, right?

[pliant pendant]

Yeah, defence seems solid its more about how much dmg you can push from glacier. As it seems very much big slow skill

But also wondering about defence top end, if its just big mana + 100% dmg taken from mana before life.

[sweet yacht]

I never played it myself, but I know it was great last patch. There was a guy in mage chat that pushed glacier far beyond 1k.
Not sure what changed for Mage in S2, but I'd bet a lot that it must be still viable for +300c

[pliant pendant]

Yeah currently loving lightning blast runemaster. Mainly cos big ward gaming with frostguard + flame ward and some gain ward on x.

And glacier has things like

• gain ward whenever you cast based on total mana
• gain ward per sec based on total mana

And then you can make glacier give back mana on crit. So you can 100% sustain it even with crazy cast speed

[sweet yacht]

Defense wise I'd say pool and sustain are obviously no problem. Only question is how much DR can you squeeze in and how much do you (as a player) need.

In general I think mana stacking sorc is not the worst idea for HC

[pliant pendant]

Well late game you go with the seed helmet and last knowledge thing. So you gain endurance based on missing mana + 100% dmg taken to mana before life + endurance also apply to mana.

But that also requires you to kill abberoth for seed helmet.

[sweet yacht]

Well, I (as a player) would never beat Abby in HC with a Mage 😄 I'd lack the skill/mindset for that

[thorn fox]

and if u have 2 hander u can get ward of more then 100% of manacost on cast😂

[thorn fox]

i like stacking a little dodge too with feet of the mountain lp2+ too

[pliant pendant]

Oww yeah you can really crank it up.

I sort of enjoy mages so mainly trying to find one that works for HC.

I currently have a spark charge LB runemaster who feels tanky but is not doing any crazy clear or dmg yet.

[thorn fox]

im bm summon bear xD i just run with 1300 regen and 700 ward regen atm😂

bear hits for 100-300k

[pliant pendant]

Yeah I think LB runemaster should get up there. I mean currently I got like 2k ward and 800 life at lv55 or something.

It's mainly about scaling dmg now. I think my one thing is I have no idea how much crit I actually have. I have it on multiple slots but not sure if I'm over crit cap ect or if you just scale via piles of int / cast speed to apply more.

[thorn fox]

yea i hate the sheets, cant see it without manually calcing it

i prob gona slot away my crit phantoms into jurla ring snapshot xD to have 2 red rings tbf🤣

[pliant pendant]

The you doing classic BM HC setup ?

Cleaver and double red ring and Ox chest and aspect of boar. Just piles of DR then slap on regen and vessel

[thorn fox]

i have ox, regen, vessel, cleaver and bastion🤣

so yea prob

prob wont do red ring if not snapshot existed

[thorn fox]

i mean tbf, any primalist goes boar 🤣

[pliant pendant]

Yeah this was the setup I planned for BM scorpian

No snapshotting needed

But decided hey let's go play mage instead

[thorn fox]

tbf like not snappshotting is losing out alot xD i prob try snapshotting when i get the belt atleast lp1

i hope they fix snapshotting and buff to compensate

[pliant pendant]

Not actually sure if snapshot is needed for scoprian. Most scaling is via aspect of viper and you can't snapshot that

[thorn fox]

snapshot spriggan is just imo insane dr

[thorn fox]

yea but u can snapshot alot and still get full out now with the frenzy amulet, snapshot with multi neck x)

i have never played scorpion tho so idk

[pliant pendant]

Man I can't wait for snapshot getting removed..... hopefully S3

[thorn fox]

yea but its night and day for some minions

at most atm i snapshot frality on hit xD

[pliant pendant]

True, they said when snapshot is remove there will be a general minion pass over also

[pliant pendant]

I already got my necromancer build for s3. Just need to wait for the season basically.

Got some Profane explode mage. Really happy with level of tank with gain ward on minion death synergy. Just about if I can hit 100% block once snapshotting gets removed.

[thorn fox]

yea i kinda wana do wandering spirit, i. always liked that and use it with flames of midnight

or zoo build i did before s1, with Dragonflame Edict, aarons will with flame wraith + ignite zombies 🤣

[pliant pendant]

I mean like zoo can work. Just about getting defence

It's why I like Profane. You summon 3 minions each cast and when they die each gives you ward.

[thorn fox]

i mean vitality stacking is nice x)

~200 x4 life on hit from golems
5000 flat armor from dred shade to x)

[pliant pendant]

Also wondering something as regardless of the build I always seem to add these as just a base early on.

• slow
• fragility
• chill
• blind

Assuming I'm some sort hit based build. I assume this makes sense to make this slow and not crit ?

[thorn fox]

slow+ chill is something insanely good imo, if u can stackem, frality is always big and we know it

[pliant pendant]

It's 10% less dmg and stacks up to 3 right ?

So having frailty is like 30% DR (assuming you have it up)

[thorn fox]

blind for crit imo is unreliable xD, but if u face up and have dodge at a decent grade i would prob pick that

[thorn fox]

all depends how much else u got, as its multiplicative and turns better the better defence u have x)

[pliant pendant]

Well I always fit blind in early before I have any crit avoid or reduced crit. It's more for the can not crit part

Also hear me out we need a ladel but for minions.

[thorn fox]

my last HC build i did in 1.1 had like 45-50k armour, 4k hp and double reds 🤣 like insane DR

[pliant pendant]

How ?

[pliant pendant]

Is the 5k armour not contradicted by the whole you take more dmg while in dread shade ?

[thorn fox]

no u slapp it on a golem, he takes more dmg, u just get aura effect

[pliant pendant]

For some reason I assumed everyone in aura got the downside

[thorn fox]

had a LP 4 static shell with 170% more armour vs shocked enemies🤣

and had giga chad tornado stormbolt so had shock + mad ladle🤣

[thorn fox]

yea like its just minion deregen turns into dmg taken, + every minion also get 5000 armour xD so they become insanely tanky

i would prob have jurla gloves with frality/ experimental armor migitat degens atm if i made same build, degens for minions higher tiers just cuckem

[pliant pendant]

Yeah i just assumed this applied to everyone even you.

However don't know the armour calc so maybe that's good

[thorn fox]

imo builds that can stack 20k is nice

i truely haaate degens, i just love armor takes on dot, specially double mod on gloves

[pliant pendant]

Guess it depends on the maths. Like if that amount of armour gives you 20% or 50% DR

I often go for big regen or some ward pool to project vs degens

Just out heal it

[thorn fox]

flats out around 20k

56-59% DR

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/armor

50k i had 85%/60% DR at lvl 100

but i only had that because lp4 chest🤣

[thorn fox]

yea i like many baskets rather then all eggs in 1 basket

armour, block, regen x) specially if im str based like bm🤣

[pliant pendant]

I mean that makes sense I think most armour I have had in a character was like 5k

[thorn fox]

yea so strong getting 5k just from a minion xD cap 20k fast then🤣

nice going som hp regen on that then

[thorn fox]

also with new majasa shield, kinda wana make a beast with that to xD

[pliant pendant]

Man just died in a tomb at lv55. Those things seem really juiced early. Had 2k ward and 800 hp, capped res. And death screen shows 2k overkill dmg

[thorn fox]

dungeon mobs? those shit i totally ignore putting points in weaver tree

i just got a insane lp3 rolled mad ladle XD

[pliant pendant]

Don't think there was any mods on weaver tree. I only had 5 passives into nemesis

Well either way time to play some glacier sorc

Time to go for big mana + dmg taken from mana and big ward gaming

Maybe I just avoid the tombs until I'm like lv60 or something

[thorn fox]

well im L97 soon going strong xD

[pliant pendant]

Yeah I did get a Paladin to 75 before dying to mono Lagon a s I just didn't know the fight really

But I had like 3 death all in tombs in those early lv45-50 character levels

Could also just be a dmg issue

If I can kill the things before I take dmg. And early on that dmg will be low

[thorn fox]

paladin in hc is tbh cheatmode at this stage

[pliant pendant]

It was a bleed hammer build

[thorn fox]

well that legit then

[pliant pendant]

But didn't have any leech and only 1.4k hp and 78% block by the time I did the Lagon fight

I'm going to test some sorc now

As technically I should have a big pool and not much DR

Goal is to hit 100% dmg taken from mana before life

2k mana. And flame ward with node so mana guards life as a panic button

This also might sound weird but I might not actually take the 2 charges for flame ward. The visuals really messes me up as I'm like it's on cooldown and then wait no I have a charge

[thorn fox]

insane mana regen then xD

[pliant pendant]

Well I can make glacier give me back mana. Glacier gives 1% of total mana back on crit. So if you have like 2k mana your glacier costs about 0.9% of your total mana

And then sorc refund mana passive ontop of that

[thorn fox]

true, fast manacost and a astaff can slap 183% mana cost as ward xD

[pliant pendant]

I was actually planning to go wand + catalyst

But that's cos there a passive that gives 36% reduced crits taken if you have a catalyst

[thorn fox]

yea, dam im finally got geared enough to slap my way to 300 corr and finnish harbringer xD

[pliant pendant]

Yo the dream.

I sort of don't know how fast / slow I should be going in HC. Like do I just always stay above zone level in mono ect and sit at lowest corruption

[thorn fox]

i was really slow xD

[thorn fox]

yea i yoloed now its only uber abberoth left to kill for my goal

[pliant pendant]

Wild. Think ill see how glacier sorc goes any if they die maybe just stick to SC. I'm too new to the game to understand when stuff is scary

[errant bronze]

Fixed a case where Forgotten Knight faction progress could reset when playing multiple HC characters.

Huzzah

[woeful skiff]

Huh, shame that it doesn't fix the issue for existing characters

[still swift]

God damn man - died to the Thunder Dragon. Fun part is. I had no idea it was there. Completely invisible and then suddenly just a death screen. Anybody else had that happen?

[pliant pendant]

Just wondering any advice on normal monos ?

I'm lv 76 currently in the zone that ends with lagon fight. But like do you skip certain areas that have a rippy end fight or some tricks to get it done faster ?

Like do you just go up right side or does that leave you too under level ?

[woeful skiff]

You can finish right side and go empowered asap

If you struggle on your first character there's no shame in getting the important blessings first

I sometimes go for the resist one immediately, even non-empowered, it's great to have when your gear isn't there yet

[lucid elk]

anyone running the soulfire bastion tier 3 online ? i chose possibly the dummest item to get for my build, the
Immolator's Oblation :))))))

[stuck blaze]

looking to run a spare mage character in HC to 1-200 empowereds comfortable. just to farm more t7's and get some rarer drops. what builds can people reccommend? happy to go rune/spell/sorc. cheers

[floral glacier]

@outer hull tell him ur build that ran 200 like nothing

[pliant pendant]

I had good success on a spark charge runemaster.

But it's mainly just due to piles of ward from frostguard and flame ward. I had like 1k ward easily at lv30 with no ward on gear.

Basically used ele nova to aoe apply spark charges and lightning blast for single target spark charges.

Main power spike was Enigma and ladel. As the extra aoe on spark charges from engima allowed to drop ele nova.

So it's about getting those really, I'm not sure if rune of assendacy is the best approach for early Engima.

[junior aurora]

How's your damage dealt to mana thing going?

[sweet yacht]

@balmy cove I love the understatement of your Avartar, while farming endless Uber in HC 👌

[balmy cove]

LOL

Im actually playing some mages for a while, havent farmed uberroth in a week

needed a +5 crit, instead got a 2lp

[sweet yacht]

🤭

[pliant pendant]

Didn't do it in the end. Main issue was dmg. Since getting t7 mana everywhere basically means your lossing a t7 dmg mod everywhere also.

But the idea should work. You get 60% Endurance + lost knowledge so as you take dmg lose mana and gain endurance threshold and seed helmet to make that endurance also apply to mana.

The concept works, but needing 60% endurance + 2k or more mana is really hard when you also need other stats like life and resistance and dmg.

[versed chasm]

just a warning,
I just had 2 bosses at the same time in Fading Brink WE, so be careful
they stayed double even after killing one, so I teleported out

[versed chasm]

and I didn't have any points in the node Twinned Tyrants in the weaver tree

[stark brook]

Guys in hardcore how is the Merchant guild doing are there many options to choose from?

[sand edge]

on hc it must be hell

[tame ruin]

there is no supply on hc

basically ssf

[stark brook]

So if i was to become a big merchant trader would people buy or is there not enough people playing Hc to have people buy from me?

[tame ruin]

there is not enough supply even on softcore

[junior aurora]

I was curious because I am doing a similar thing. What main damage skill were you going?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqN7e50B

[tame ruin]

hc mg is dead

[cursive onyx]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (77) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,376, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,721.18, Regen: 27.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 126%, Regen: 207/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 0 Dex / 38 Int / 0 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 64% / 49% / 64% / 81% / 29% / 32% / 32%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 385
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (511)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (711)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 108%

Used skills:

Focus / Disintegrate / Static Orb / Flame Rush / Flame Ward

[pliant pendant]

I was going for glacier. Using the nodes that grant mana back on crit to cover my mana cost.

The main issue was the pure amount of stats I needed. As to work with seed helmet I need 60% endurance, this was ontop of 2k mana and capped res and 100% crit avoid.

[stark brook]

What is the population like in HC anyway is it a popular mode or not really?

[tame ruin]

its not popular in any arpg

maybe d2

[pliant pendant]

Yeah HC not that popular

It's also hard to track numbers as there is quite a few people who play offline HC so avoid DC deaths

[stark brook]

What corruption ye guys rocking in HC atm?

[tame ruin]

300

[stark brook]

Can i see ur gear?

Also guys in HC can i join COF or Merchant only from the Bazar chapter?

[tame ruin]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjvnMYDB pretty wack gear rn

[cursive onyx]

Void Knight, Level 95

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (73) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,404, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 946.08, Regen: 15.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 63 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 107% / 75% / 84% / 72% / 69% / 63% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 75%, Threshold: 1,293
▸ Armor Mitigation: 75% (8,079)

Used skills:

Erasing Strike / Anomaly / Devouring Orb / Symbols of Hope / Healing Hands

[stark brook]

I had a look at tier lists seems sorcs are least favoured class in hardcore is that so?

[junior aurora]

Yeah, I opted for disintegrate because it's free and scales damage with mana. Considered glacier for mana regen, defensively, but ended up putting my skills elsewhere

[pliant pendant]

Yeah it's sort of hard to get working. The issue is for glacier you need like 2.2k mana and 100% crit chance for it to work as a mana generator.

[junior aurora]

Imo, the main problem is they changed glacier from requiring crits to generate mana to requiring KILLS

Which means you get nothing in bosses and you can't use it as a secondary mana generator

So how do you get all those stats, stack mana, and then still kill things?

Disintegrate can do it, but surviving until you get the necessary stats is a challenge, to say the least

[pliant pendant]

No ?

You can still generate mana with it on single target with crits.

[junior aurora]

Oh? Let me look at the tree again

[pliant pendant]

You get 1% of your mana back on crit and it does 3 hits. So 3% of total mana back per cast. 10 casts per second is 30% back per second

[junior aurora]

I missed the other node. I thought that was the nerf. Hmmm

I'm gonna try speeching that instead of static orb and see how it goes

[pliant pendant]

It now has a cap. It can only trigger 10 times per second. Before people would do like 30 casts per second and mass gain mana

[junior aurora]

Yeah, I remember all those meteor builds

30% per second on 2k mana with seed is..., .3x2000x5x1.5=4500 health per second

Oh, I guess I'm an idiot. I would trade this for focus

But then I'd also need cast speed and crit

Worth a try!

I thought there used to be a node that gave glacier guaranteed crits

[lucid elk]

yo im playing warlock running around with 3k ward at all times, sometimes i get damage to health while still having ward, last time it hapend when fighting emperor of corpses, any ideas what might be happenning ?

[sweet yacht]

The middle in the solarum arena had the same effect. Afaik it couldn't kill you, as long as you have ward left - but I would really not bet on that!

[wind pumice]

Desecrated ground created by Emperor of Corpses damages HP directly through ward. Not sure whether it's intended though

[balmy cove]

I believe all those stuff are coded as 'X% of current HP lost per second'. Its not damage and it cant kill you (on its own).

[junior aurora]

It is intended, but it can't kill you, yeah

[floral glacier]

Its definitely intended. Didn't know it couldn't kill a low life setup

[vale pulsar]

i'm so confused what ju;st happened here???

[woeful skiff]

Have they fixed the Forgotten Knight progression bug on alt characters?

[tame ruin]

yes

[woeful skiff]

Sick, time to reroll then

[autumn surge]

What are viable skills as a mage? I Tried runebolt/ cold lightning blast/ volc orb/ runic and they all do subpar dmg in level 75 monolith, at around level 18 skill level

Don't want guides or anything. Just to know which are skils I should avoid

[proven yoke]

Can alwasy check the hardcore ladder to take a look at what people played

Looks like Lightning Blast, Shatter strike, Focus

[thorn fox]

dam i hate meta, im gona try do a disintergrate and take it to 500+

[proven yoke]

Sure - but you didnt ask about what skills people should play, someone else did. The best skills become Meta, because they are the best.

[thorn fox]

yea but that void knight thats most killed Uber with is super meta, but imo to squishy to feel comfortable in HC xD

[proven yoke]

Why would you compare SC meta to HC then?

Your "rawr down with meta mentality" has you making some weird leaps honestly

[thorn fox]

just wana make shure u understand that ones opinion is not bashing, it just what i think and thats the end of it. play the game how u wana play, help, guide, meta or w/e

[hoary peak]

what should i do for judgement paladin, this:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/982714023671898112/1376708337382719628/image.png?ex=68364f0d&is=6834fd8d&hm=02d3947748155b0ddae562374cb0daed39d53849dc3ae57c9413e468b4bad95b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=444&height=960

or
Twisted heart with 4 ranks of judgement?

[scarlet fractal]

Anytips for new hc char?

Any ways to level up fast?

[sweet yacht]

Leveling fast is no option for 99% of players in HC I guess ^^

At least for me the goal is to run far, not fast 😄

[sweet yacht]

I stayed away from an answer so far, cause I don't have even one full day of playtime on Judgement.
But as one one dares an answer: I'd clearly go with +4 Judgement Heart.
Heart is a much better base, and usually you should not need extra points in Aura or Sigils, or?

[minor mist]

I usually follow Perrys "Campaign skip" from this video. I find it pretty safe and fast.

https://youtu.be/2K8UEOjdvWU?si=Uoahex8fWnbu0vbF

[hoary peak]

true. I'm gonna test vs diff monsters. i already one shot everything below 300 corruption so for me it's about survivability.

[south jolt]

anyone have any experience/opinion on whether red ring is worth on judgment paladin? got a nice one but i feel like to use it i have to give up a lot of dmg prefixes for attributes, and ring slot seems pretty powerful on the build anyways

[balmy cove]

I dont think its worth it. You could force 180 total by using Foot of the mountain + Shattered Worlds, or by using Cleaver solution, but I think its too much opportunity cost

build has more than enough tank anyways for 1000corr / everything in uberroth (if built correctly)

[gray carbon]

This is not allowed in the server

[drifting walrus]

shitpost goal achieved, first time normal aberroth down HCSAF with pure reflect spriggan druid 🙌 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmWc1Yz6eQ0

[fair steeple]

nice job

[wind pumice]

What a dedication

[nova fox]

hc LFG posts here or in the LFG channel?

[nova fox]

ty, I guess reading first would be helpful ...

[autumn surge]

Is it worth investing into the frost claw dagger that procs lightning blast? My runemaster has low single target. Don’t want guides

[gray sentinel]

Happy: 95 Waves with mages on HC - 4ord of the world 😄

[drifting walrus]

fed my spriggan to uberroth as tribute, after messing around in the fight for a bit in SC, there was no hope of trying to kill uber with reflect 🙂 ggs, great finale to the league for me.

[hoary peak]

wtf, this week my 99 and 95 lvl characters died because of game crashes fighting bosses 😦

[sweet yacht]

rip

[gray sentinel]

HC Mage: 140 Waves!!! I DID IT!!! 1st on ladder at this moment!!!

[balmy cove]

Well I just gave you a new target to chase.
Its a bit higher than 140.

[mint socket]

What can I do after losing a HC character to disconnect?

2nd time now. Its really disappointing and i dont know what i can do

[wind pumice]

Playing offline only No resurrection is provided by EHG by any reason.

[gray sentinel]

wow, 400, u wanna me to die... 😄

[mint socket]

This feels so bad

[gray sentinel]

just got an altaria... this evening 200 waves or die...

8/10 rolls on the altaria... on HC getting that for me feels like lottery (Dropped on 360 corruption seekers summit boss)

#👑┃item-showcase message <<-- here

[gray sentinel]

well, 2, altarias, lol: #👑┃item-showcase message

[gray sentinel]

Died,.. at 236 wave,,... 😦

[sweet yacht]

RIP

[north lion]

Sadly it’s the nature of HC and online play

I have lost many a character to disconnects in HC in all my years playing ARPGs. Most were lost to my mistakes though.

[mint socket]

This is the thing though, ive never had this happen before. Now twice this season. Game freezes but i can still move around. By the time i realize it is a DC, i instaquit and then my HC is dead. I feel this needs to be resolved.

I purchased all supporter packs, so playing offline defeats the purpose of my spending

[north lion]

The “purpose” is to support the game but yeah, I get what you mean. I personally choose to play offline regardless of purchasing the supporter packs. Hopefully they will let us access them offline one day.

As for the lag issues, could it be on your end?

[dusty mist]

The rush of HC is wild. This game seems like it takes it easy compared to some of the others out there. PoE2 HC is Prometheus level of cray.

[balmy cove]

Well I just did my arena push since poe is coming up soon.
Went quite well but sadly fell a little short of 1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXRfuZn8e_A

this was the character, had pretty nice gear https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/RudyBaby/character/Rudy_BrandBot

[mint socket]

Its not lag at all to be honest. Its a straight disconnect. No issues present themselves at all. Then get a full disconnect. To be fair, i do play from South Africa, so my ping is high. Usually between 140-160 but that just causes input delay which i've dealt with all my life when playing EU servers. However, its stable and throughout season 1, i had never experienced a disconnect

It doesnt present itself with an issue and then just randomly will completely cut my connection. This is fine, however the issue is the game doesnt disconnect me immediately and therefore the server has me as ingame but im unable to do anything other than exit.

Issue comes that if i dont do it immediately(which sometimes i dont know im DCing) then i end up dying but not actually displaying it onscreen

[north lion]

Same question though

[mint socket]

I want to say that is possible but very unlikely.

If this wasnt a common issue like it is this season, LE even having documentation on possible fixes and openly admitting to DC's being an issue this season, then id be more inclined to say the issue is probably on my end

[north lion]

That's fair

[sweet yacht]

Funny in 1.1.7 we had a few HC players every week that asked questions and told their storys all over the discord.
In S2 there is so much more players, but HC community seems even more not to be a thing ^^

[viral spade]

The issue I see with playing HC resolves around a question I actually have for the next live stream.

"2: Farming 1k+ corruption this season I noticed that every once in a while (every 300 or so hits) I take normal damage from a normal mob that is 5k-7k (one shot) in damage with full resist (75%), high armor and high block. Is this expected or is this over-turned abilities for mobs? Also,any idea what causes this? Also, I did not know that bug reports go to your kanban board and I will no longer report dupe issues."

I'm compiling a list of questions I see from the general public and this seems to be one that pops up for people pushing

[sweet yacht]

Honestly I ask me, what people expect of 1k corr 😄 Everthying hits like a truck and you need to be very careful ofc (if you are not Judgement Pala, then I guess you can insert a little higher numbers when things actually start to hurt)

Regarding to that statement we would need some picture at least, better a video of that. Could be litterally anything from "you have not seen something" over "you need to know this scales a bit more nasty" up to a bug that happened

[viral spade]

Its just weird to see normal damage do more then critical hits. It's just a weird thing to see and looks like a bug. I donno if its expected and its why I'm asking the question Friday. If its expected then its a weird choice for the game but I just want clarification on it.

[clever whale]

question like legit is anyone playing HC cause global is dead right now

[sweet yacht]

Global ingame chat is the most dead thing I've ever seen, yes

It's even worse in my language. In 1.1.7 I had over a week w/o meeting a single person in chat.

If you need a port, I can come online in a few @clever whale

[clever whale]

just started out so And ather new to last epoch as wel so what is a port ?

[sweet yacht]

A teleport. Many vets want early teleports to EoT or to CoF/MG or whatever ^^

[clever whale]

aa not a vet XD first time ever on HC in a game

[sweet yacht]

Wish you good luck and the needed patience! 🤞

[north lion]

I play offline so I wouldn’t know if HC is dead or not but it will always be a very small portion of the community.

[cedar kraken]

IMO getting to 100 is way too easy in LE and the infinite farm simulator endgame isn't that exciting. LE will always be a little easy compared to other ARPG's but at least HC gives it SOME level of thrill

[magic schooner]

Honestly I disagree, This game feels a lot different than Diablo Compared to their endgame dungeons

There is little excitement in Diablo Endgame

Getting to lvl 100 I agree, Levelling up is a little easier in this game

Plus diablo costs 2x more and their new season which has less content than this game is more expensive

[cedar kraken]

I only compare them as to difficulty. D2R, poe, some d3 being my former experience

LE is WAY easier to level and stay alive

[magic schooner]

In that part, that is true

[cedar kraken]

i've actually only played HC this season so haven't fully engaged on the endgame this season anyway

[magic schooner]

Its quite fun honestly

[cedar kraken]

finally have alevel 93 so i'm getting clsoe

[magic schooner]

Content wise its better than diablo endgame

100%

And its a cheaper game

[cedar kraken]

but i maxed out the game every season so far and it just wasn't good. weaver seems like a really sick addition i've only barely scratched the surface of

[magic schooner]

Weaver are quite fun honestly

[cedar kraken]

i'm just now finally dropping 3 LPs and 3 exalts after struggling all season to get this far. bleed pally ftw

[clever whale]

first time Doing Hc barly leevel 68 and slowly making my way to empowered mono. but so far I'm fearing for my life every mission I take ....

[cedar kraken]

the step from normal to empowered monos is such a breakpoint in HC. gotta time it perfectly

[clever whale]

what level do you recon ?

[cedar kraken]

Depends on class and gear but from ~78-85 IMO

And 5k+ passive HP/ward

[clever whale]

yea that is going to be a issue stuck around 1.4k hp no ward XD
Playing Novahammerdin tho

[cedar kraken]

I'm on bleed hammerdin and TBH that shield that says you can't gain ward in combat is a game changer. Currently running 105% block chance

I also use the shield axe as my main weapon too

[clever whale]

you need to find it first tho XD very new to the game

Currently using this

[cedar kraken]

It's a fairly common drop only level 30-40 item and generally useless except on this guy.

Don't know the name tho

[clever whale]

aa no pics in here it seems XD but using an eagle axe right now for crit

still having issue's find razerfall tho

[cedar kraken]

Yeah those with 30% Ms legendary is necessary

[cedar kraken]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Oldmanfaker/character/TakeItSlowBro

[clever whale]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/hexcry/character/HandsOnGamesHC
I have a long way to go XD

[cedar kraken]

Yeah that's rough I've been farming for 6-7 toons now so I have a really solid base of items to propel him to success with

[clever whale]

RIP My level 81 forge guard Did not even get to empowerd mono ....

[sweet yacht]

rip mate

[clever whale]

no crying over spilled milk man up and go again

[amber sun]

Rip my Hc char 😄

lv92 paladin

think what HC char shall make now xD

[cedar kraken]

@sweet yacht what's wrong with 105% block?
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[sweet yacht]

The Shiel itself sucks

[cedar kraken]

I disagree. All items have a place and this one belongs on no ward big hp pally. 8.5k ward cushion on my 3k HP

and on 100% block that ward lasts me 20-30s into combat

my effective OHKO threshhold is over 21k this way. closer to 50k if physical

[sweet yacht]

You play that shield even in endgame?

[cedar kraken]

Haven't found anything better tbh. It takes me from dying to a 7k hit to dying to a 21k hit

[cedar kraken]

The Medusa shield might be the only viable replacement

[sweet yacht]

Honestly, any shield is better as grim constitution.How do you want to play echoes to keep the ward.

Nice it works somehow for you! But not recomendeble and not a "gamechanger" as you said initialy

[cedar kraken]

it kinda was tho because, like you, I felt it was just a terrible item. Until i actually gave it a chance. Any character that doesn't have natural good ward gen should give it a go

[sweet yacht]

I tried it when it came out ^^

[cedar kraken]

it takes 4-5s out of combat to refill the ward pool and the pool lasts 20-30s on bosses and 40-infinity s on echos. To each their own but that kind of survivabillity is undeniable

[sweet yacht]

Try thaty or the bleeder Shield from Abom. You've been bleeder, right?

[cedar kraken]

name?

[sweet yacht]

So you are waiting to refill that?

[cedar kraken]

only when the boss can hit over 7k

[sweet yacht]

Flayers Pride for offense, Majasas-i-don't know for deffense

[cedar kraken]

flayers is okay but there alot of wasted stats

[sweet yacht]

What's your current corr?

[cedar kraken]

300

on aberoth

[sweet yacht]

You do Abby with that shield?

no

[cedar kraken]

Countenance of majasa is the other one. the medusa shield i refrenced earlier. THAT one i would try but am yet to drop

[sweet yacht]

Yes, thats a shield!

[cedar kraken]

and i haven't tried aberoth yet 😉

[cedar kraken]

aberoth is the only boss i know of that can do damage consistently enough that I'm not confident i could get the ward recharge

so i will wait until i get to 100 or have near perfect items

[sweet yacht]

I'm glad it works for you somehow.
But what you call a gamechanger, others would call very different.

The out of combat ward is just a joke. If that saves you, a nice damage reduction would have served you same, but more reliable

[cedar kraken]

https://gyazo.com/a4277d1b787cce29a5e89d67b3fc1dc7
this is the stat i'm focusing on

survivability. any other shield in the game doesn't give me that same survivability

[sweet yacht]

Fake HP pool that runs out is not EHP

[cedar kraken]

i think you greatly underestimate this "fake HP pool" lol

8.5k ward upon entering combat is nothing to scoff at

[sweet yacht]

You're the first person ever advertising this shield. But I see you literally want to die on that hill.

[cedar kraken]

find a shield that give me more ohko survivabillity and i will concede

[sweet yacht]

what is ohko?

[cedar kraken]

one hit knock out

one-shot

the ultimate demise of the HC player

[sweet yacht]

OS-EHP, I see

[cedar kraken]

yes

[sweet yacht]

Nothing to add. ^^

[cedar kraken]

People look at the world as it is and ask why? I imagine the things that never were and ask why not?

https://gyazo.com/d8d51ab87f8500866ac08a47ba2ff9d6

flayer^

[sweet yacht]

Btw be careful with ward and ehp calc on le tools.

I can easily make you 200k ehp with ward in that planer, that effectively are not even close.
And for the left colum its worse, it is calculation that you would constantly get 1,2k ward

[cedar kraken]

it's my actual character. the stats are based off the items. the stat I want is better with grim constitution. There is literally nothing to argue anymore if you don't understand now you never will. Numbers and logic run my brain and the numbers say this is better even if the crowd doesn't. Sorry you can't understand

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[sweet yacht]

Again: You having fun? Great!

But don't recommend this shield as it was good. It is crap mostly and even more in HC where you need reliable defense. You say it is about numbers? Startig the fight with a big "fake" HP that you never can hold up, is just no improvement.

Your char works for now cause it is build solid elsewhere. The shield does not actually help you to survive anything, that you wouldn't have survived elseway

PLus your EHP number is wrong, cause the shield is calculated wrong

It shows only the EHP you have, when you enter the fight, then it goes down rapidly

[cedar kraken]

I'll link you the YT tutorial when it's up

[sweet yacht]

I'd really appreciate a third, fourth and fifth opion on that ^^

[jade thunder]

It can work at 300corruption where mobs dont hit that mutch, but if u hit 600+ or aberoth dont think soo

[sweet yacht]

I guess I will nerver learn that we don't have a grace period anymore when entering a map. I feel I will need to sacrifice a char to learn that.
Damn bad habit of entering a map and doing smth else 🙂

[junior aurora]

I think this shield is EXTREMELY powerful in hard-core until around 300 corruption. It single-handedly solves survivability if you're willing to play slowly

I have to assume we're talking about grim con

Walking into fights with 8k ward makes you invincible until you start entering fights that can deal more than 8k damage

It's not fake hp, its real hp. It's a high hp, no regen approach to survivability. And it works until damage gets too high

[sweet yacht]

I'm speechless. But I see I have to rephrase my strong rejection of this "extremly powerfull gamechanger" in the future 😬

[clever whale]

all that talking about 300+ corruption and here I am still trying to get to impowerd XD

[hidden elk]

And I though I'm the crazy one runing around with Sigeon's Reprisal on HC SAF and trying to take all the hits possible to maximize damage 😂

[static steppe]

No hope left, left the game cause 7k Ward (+leech + res + mitig) on non-meta is not enought to survive corru 147 (New non telegraph OS ruined it for me, Normal Abby was better before), and don't want to play Sentinel / Falconner

[hidden elk]

I guess it depends on the build, but I'm pretty sure I'm not playing meta build and I'm perfectly fine on 300 corruption. Although not gonna lie, still fear to even enter Aberroth portal. Still farming things to maximise damage resistances. P.S. I see, no Sentinel. Then I guess that's valid. I can't even imagine how to play on another class

[clever whale]

As a new player to HC I Also do not see how it would be possible to do so .... the effort that you would need to put in to be as tanky would be immens

[cedar kraken]

Never called it "extremely powerful" if you're going to quote me at least get it right

[clever whale]

Think I can start empowerd with this ?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/hexcry/character/HandsOnGamesHC

[sweet yacht]

How long is a 90 boss fight for you, and do you feel you can easily face tank a 90 boss without any fears (facetanking because of your build)

In general I'd say that it is a risky move to move on to empowered. You almost lack crit protection and your EHP is still quite low. But that is always tricky for sentinels, as Leo helmets unlock later.

But as Judgement Pally you can probably compensate that easily for now just with your OP skills, hence the above question: How does a 90 Boss work for you?

[clever whale]

90 boss pretty much die in 2 sec

[sweet yacht]

Yeah guessed so. If I can deal good with a boss on a certain level, I usually feel safe to rise the bar a little.

You still need to be careful. Yes, Judgement/Vengance is pretty unkillable if you pay attention and don't get too strong ranged attacks, but fast moving enemies can still get dangerous for you.

[clever whale]

switching to empowerd on hc feels like a big hurdle ....

[sweet yacht]

Even more if you do it the first time and have no stuff in your stash from previous chars. I feel the same

[clever whale]

yup first time going there ... it feels like one mistep and I'm back to 0

[sweet yacht]

A little hard for me to judge your equipement, as I only played Judgement in SC and started already with much better gear

[sweet yacht]

That's the thrill of HC 😄

Btw, @clever whale you know, that you could feed your uniques to the "nemesis eggs", to get either affixes, or some legendary potential on them?

Would be a nice boost if you could upgrade your uniques probably

[clever whale]

So far I have Had that once think I might have like realy bad luck on that part

[sweet yacht]

Around 90 comes the time when they get much more common from my experience

[junior aurora]

I did. I think its a great single item to make you invincible for a large chunk of the game

[cedar kraken]

i do agree tho lol. And to @sweet yacht 's point, it does decay incredibly fast until the 5k threshold then I think he greatly underestimes how long it takes that last 5k to decay. I know i didn't understand it until i spent time using it and fell in love hence the "gamechanger" hah

[sweet yacht]

Move on and let me out of this non sense please

[sweet yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

How unskilled and stupid can a single person be? Volin: "Yes"

Level 98 😦

[marsh vapor]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/omkgW35Q

Just cleared my first HC empowered timeline....

1st HC char, char still alive

Oh boy, what a mess, pure resistance chaos just to push any bit of health. Currently not very lucky with drops, escpacially exalts, decent armor bases? not yet...
Still building up my CoF rank, Weaver is close to Level 6 with Tier 1 done, Tier 2 progressed. Got all imprint slots for now + lizzards leg drop.

I decided to kill the Black Sun dude first, was hoping for a life blessing, didnt get it.
Next plan is to get a good belt, best case with double life or hybrid/crit avoid for my 2LP phys belt staying in stash.

My damage is ultra low, the harbinger fight took me about 3minutes? Gear unoptimized, but i am having fun....
Without shards/cof ranks/weaver/weaver idols built up and rogue.... not an easy life i tell ya.

I am permanently thinking about Sentinels, because they have so much beefy passives and pure no brainer defenses and iam desperately maxing every life node, because rogue has nothing but a rng-mechanic, dodge... Silver Shroud is obviously gold, but every 10 seconds.... naaah xD

Hunt goes on, HC still a fun game. Game seems to run very stable, not a single issue tech-wise. Next character will be an Acolyte.

🫡

[cursive onyx]

Marksman, Level 88

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (11) / Marksman (57) / Falconer (13)

General:

▸ Health: 3,534, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 109.59, Regen: 11.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 70 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 81% / 87% / 74% / 103% / 75% / 21%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 24%, Threshold: 1,237
▸ Dodge Chance: 23% (716)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (575)
▸ Block Chance: 3%, Mitigation: 18% (160)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 16%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 63%

Used skills:

Puncture / Shift / Shurikens / Heartseeker / Multishot

[sage geyser]

Sounds like a lot of fun, man.
I'm about to get back into the game, today. Took a break from it for a month or so.
I'm gonna level with the throwing hammers on sentinel, then switch into a void warpath build later on.

But anyways, congratulations. HC is rough, that's for sure.

[gray sentinel]

Doubt: When you die in HC-SoloAccount. your bank stays back when you die or "travel" with you to "non-HC"?

[limber panther]

Stays in hc

Solo account is not character found, it's shared between all your solo account hc characters

[sweet yacht]

Warpath is also a great leveling skill!

[gray sentinel]

and the "character found" option makes Bank travel with u after death?

[gray sentinel]

thanks!

[limber panther]

Honestly that one I have no clue

[sage geyser]

For sure.
But I've never leveled with hammers before. I'm gonna give it a spin.
So far, it's a boss melter.
Though I'm less than an hour into the character, so I may not have much of an idea so far.

I've also never leveled with shield bash.
There's node where it gets to no cool down??
Sounds like fun to work with that too

[sweet yacht]

Yeah, Hammers are great as leveling skill

[clever whale]

I'm done with HC this season WTF man lagg out cause of server lagg one second and i'm dead

just got in empowerd as wel T_T

Think I'm just going to do normal and learn a bit more this sucks man

[gray carbon]

you can do SC, or you can play true offline for HC, since you wouldnt have any servers

[hidden elk]

My understanding is: HC bank is always separate form SC bank, which kind of makes sense. SAF is shared between solo account found characters, SCF -- just for this character. When my SCF character died once, I had an empty Bank. Only character inventory stayed with me

[loud wadi]

if you want to start up again hit me up

[clever whale]

I will ❤️

[north lion]

I play true offline as I play solo anyway so none of the online nonsense is a godsend.

Maybe one day EHG will give us the skins we paid for offline but even if they don’t I don’t see myself going online any time soon.

[gray sentinel]

lot of thanks

[lean knoll]

Finished Act 7 on HC for the first time, do HC people push till the attribute bonus or move to monos and come back later? and how do i approuch monos/know when im ready for it?

[sweet yacht]

I usually come back later. Early monos are much easier then the end of the campaign imo

[lean knoll]

lost my boy in a soul foundry echo , 1 overkill damage ...

[sweet yacht]

rip

[hidden elk]

Just died too. Lvl 99. Decided to push the arena to get at least to top 3, before trying aberoth. Didn't even get to my previous result 😦 We'll stay top-4 with kind of unusual build, if no one will beat Arena further... Had 3.2K health, 2,2K ward, 1.2K regen, 80% armor mitigation, 100% block chance, around 40-60% block mitigation, 2 red red rings, 34% Parry, full health on Parry.

I guess, I've underestimated the importance of DoT mitigation. In preparation to aberroth, decided to switch some gear and crafted gloves with T7 set affix for regen per strenth, with Vessel of Strife. Instead of better eternal gauntlets with sentinel Relic. So I lost probably around 30-40% of Armor applied to DoT mitigation, but got a lot of ward and health regen.

Also didn't use Aurora's time glass for some stupid reason 😦

I'm definitely done with HC this season 🙂

[sweet yacht]

rip mate

No matter how you die, it will never feel good. I died afk with 98 with my last one

[hidden elk]

So if you're interested in more details about what happens when SAF character dies. CoF rank stayed the same, but I lost all the favor (funny things prophecies stayed with me). Harbingers and woven also stayed at the same lvl, amber also = 0. And looks like all coruption in monoliths stayed the same. But the stash worked as I explained before, got 17K gold and 1 tab with some unique gloves from my another 20lvl character 😂 So I guess this is my SAF SC stash. P.S. You also lose all your keys and woven maps

[hidden elk]

These stupid dogs with cold breath got me. Didn't react with evade and health potion, almost insta death. 22 overkill 😂

[sweet yacht]

What wave?

[hidden elk]

At least now I can try aberroth with curren gear and see if I actually should do it first. I didn't have any problems on 300 corruption and pretty sure could easily play on 500 corruption

[hidden elk]

Died on 365 or something, my record was 405 with worse gear, but better DoT mitigation

ACtually, was alwauys curious is there any approximation on corruption lvl and arena monsters damage....

[sweet yacht]

That is how I came to an Abberoth kill with bees. I died in Arena with the char and the first thing I did in SC, was to first try Abberoth.
I was so close to do Abby with Bees in HC 😄

[hidden elk]

I'd say at least x2

[sweet yacht]

Yeah, something like that. If not even a bit more

[hidden elk]

Lol))) Although you lose your stash, your imprints are not lost in woven tree)))

I guess makes sense too)

[hidden elk]

Killed normal Aberroth first try. I was so tanky, that basically could face tank almost everything there, few times was close to die from DoT's but, I guess when there were many of them at the same place. Pizza attack almost 0 damage, I'll probably will try to tank his slam next time (didn't want to check first try). If Uber Abby doesn't really do much more damage, then I guess I should've pushed for him first, before trying to get top ranking in Arena 😦 I really needed both of Uber Abby drops for my build...

[sweet yacht]

Ubby does a lot more dmg

[clever whale]

Sc seems so boring ...
Back to Hc this time trying tornado druid

anyone online who can give me a quick tp to end of time ?

[north lion]

I don’t know, I often push characters to death when I am done with them.

[sage geyser]

I'm thinking about starting a shield bash char on HC.

Can you explain the DoT armor mitigation, though? I don't think I understand that.

Basically, does armor also apply to DoT too, once you have that?

[hidden elk]

I'd recommend to check tooltip on the item, or maybe there is an explanation in a game guide. My understanding is, that part of our armor mitigation of hits, can be applied to DoT's. So for example, you have 10K armor, let's say it's 80% Physical hit mitigation (as far as I remember will be lower for other types of damage). So if you have 10% of armor applies to DoT -> 0.1 * 80 = 8% damage mitigation for DoTs (and I'm pretty sure will have the same propertion physical vs other types). If you have 50% of armor applies to DoTs, then 0.5 * 80 = 40%. I suppose 100% Armor applies to DoTs gives you the same mitigation to DoTs as you have for hits (not sure if it's even possible to get this stat so high). So I guess the more armour you have, the more valuable this armour applies to DoTs can be.

I'd say I really felt the difference for DoT's between two runs. I had crazy amount of armour, and exchanged 10-20% of armour applied to DoT's to more HP/ward and even two red rings, and looks like for DoTs mitigation it was actually bad decision somehow... These dogs didn't hit so hard before. And as I said, if you go into arena in HC, I guess you have to take aurora's timeglass amulet as a last resort... It would've saved me even with bad stats

[sage geyser]

Makes sense. Building into DoT mitigation also means building into armor, as well. They're tied together, almost like block chance, and block effectiveness.

[hidden elk]

Correct. I've never thought about it, cause mostly play sentinels, but I doubt it will be as impactful on other classes with lower armour

[sage geyser]

Yeah, I've got a SC void warpath thing going on right now. I've got a few timelines left before I get to normal abby (who I've never fought before).
But in a while, maybe I'll start up HC.

Torture myself a little more while playing this game, lol

[hidden elk]

Well if you feel it, why not. I've never tried HC characters before LE, so I'd say a beginner too. There is some additional thrill to the game, but still not sure if I like it. Sometimes I'm crazy tired and just want to play a little bit, but in HC this can be a death for no reason. Kind of happened to me, actually with this last character.

[sage geyser]

Yeah. I think I'll give HC shield bash a shot.

HC seems to be pretty serious, so if I'm exhausted or something, I'll try not to play it hahaha

Thanks for answering my question, by the way. I appreciate it

[frail orbit]

would you guys say my char is uber abby ready? playing on hc saf - https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bg85O0Lo

Done normal abby easy enough but i've seen people say uber is like 1000 corruption equivelent and like out of safety i farm at around 550 so idk if i can do it or not?

[cursive onyx]

Void Knight, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (76) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,592, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,101.07, Regen: 11.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 40 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 118% / 128% / 96% / 76% / 76% / 73% / 39%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 74%, Threshold: 1,487
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (5,783)

Used skills:

Erasing Strike / Devouring Orb / Anomaly / Symbols of Hope / Healing Hands

[junior aurora]

In SC I farm at 1000C pretty comfortably and am nowhere near completing Uberoth, so take that for what it's worth. It's a relatively tanky and lower damage build

[hidden elk]

Never even tried Uberroth at all, and never played void knight, so won't risk with advice.

[sweet yacht]

1k Corruption is honestly a joke compared with uber.
You should probably try it in SC first.
I don't see a cleanse btw? Would be very helpful at least to have that for Uber

[icy moth]

Ueber is also extremly overtuned, I mean even for an Ueber boss. Most builds that even attempt him are builds that are basically able to faceroll ungodly amounts of corruption without even flinching.

[timid crypt]

If you wanted to convince someone to play HC, what would you tell them?

[sweet yacht]

Imo that is nothing you could/should ever someone convince to.

[hidden elk]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-18298503445821339884

[fair steeple]

if this was PoE

people would go "haha scrubcore"

Then immediatly switch to HC

[north lion]

It works exactly how it sounds it works

[north lion]

I stopped playing HC in PoE years ago, when they stopped balancing the game around it.

[fair steeple]

Best thing ever

I let free my soul

And peace

[remote grail]

Whelp, another character dead shortly before unlocking a faction, don't think I'll ever get one unlocked on HC XD

[sweet yacht]

RIP

[sweet yacht]

You want a teleport to the Factions? I killed my main but I should have a char with access left.

But also understand if you want to make it on your own

[remote grail]

I wouldn't mind it, but had to go to work so won't be on until later XD at first I wanted to try on my own but it's getting annoying at this point XD

[sweet yacht]

Sure thing mate, leave me a msg here or via DM.

But thinking about S2 changes it could be I only access to CoF, but I'll check that until later

[remote grail]

That's the faction I was going with anyway XD

[remote grail]

If you're online, finally home and online, if you're still willing to give me a lift to the observatory

Can someone give me a piggyback to the Observatory?

[remote grail]

whelp, sudden end to my necro, heard a sudden click while at 3/4 life and suddenly dead XD

Sweet, wasn't sure, but faction progress is shared across characters, nice

[remote grail]

i swear, Maj'ekla is a curse for me, i can't ever get past it

[north lion]

What kills you?

[remote grail]

different things each time, but it's generally shortly after getting to Maj'ekal

this time, though, it was the trapper guy who throws down all those poison mines, he ended up doing so right under me, so once i took a step, like 5 of them went off at once and killed me

[loud wadi]

Finally got a sub 2:20 on my HC campaign speedrun with Warlock

[unreal wasp]

Heya folks, I usually play offline because dying to disconnects is always a pretty lame way to go. I'm considering playing online for the first time in years with a judgement pally. Does anyone know how long you stay in-game, server side, after a disconnect?

Trying to decide whether I wanna plan on sacrificing DPS to have 100% block, which I think would have a vastly better chance of surviving for X seconds with no inputs. If your character disappears from the game almost immediately on the server side, this would be much less important.

I guess this would be pretty testable by just disconnecting internet for X seconds and seeing at what point you end up back at login vs just the game lagging.

[silk quiver]

Its around 5 seconds give or take couple seconds

[unreal wasp]

Thanks!

I think that's long enough to plan around running Monument of Protection despite the fairly sizable dps loss 🤔

[silk quiver]

Yeah having block is such a massive EHP increase especially for sentinels whom can cap it quite easily so its worth the dps loss also in general makes certain content less sketchy

[unreal wasp]

Heya folks. I haven't unlocked it yet, but I understand there is a trading system in the game these days. Is there an active trading scene on HC, and if so are there community maintained loot filters made with the HC economy in mind? Or is the HC economy effectively the same as the SC?

[marsh vapor]

Hey there,

can't find the mod post about this topic, or was it Volin?😁 But in summary, it was sth. like this:

HC is basically CoF only. Merchants Guild is pretty much non existent because the playerbase isn't as big as in SC and the amount of supply is very limited in HC.

As for loot filters... no idea.

[unreal wasp]

Thanks, no need for an economy loot filter if there's no economy 💀

[cedar kelp]

I regularly died to 1200c when I was killing uber, fwiw

[sweet yacht]

Hehe, no, that doesn't sound like me 🙂

I can only imagine that MG in HC will be very limited, never tried

[marsh vapor]

Yeah, not sure who it was...maybe it was my imagination... don't know 😅

[unreal wasp]

Heya folks. New to 1.2- are any of the woven echoes notably rippy? I already got a spook in a the brewmaster map when I killed the boss and suddenly started taking a huge... dot, I think

[marsh vapor]

Hi @unreal wasp ✌️
There is an echo with a bunch of boss enemies which can be scary, if unprepared.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/monolith/woven-echoes/gauntlet-of-strife

This and obviously:

https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/monolith/woven-echoes/the-fading-brink

Harbingers with heavy hitting void enemies as filler between each harbinger.

Those are the most scary ones i would say. 🙂

Ps: This website's section is a recommended bookmark. It gives good infos on the echoes, also for some other "trickier" ones.

[unreal wasp]

Thank you!

[unreal wasp]

Did you end up successfully killing him? Were you solo?

[cedar kelp]

Oh, yes, I killed him a long time ago solo

I killed him a few times on several builds before quitting the season

[unreal wasp]

Nice work! Did you happen to do any kind of writeups anywhere?

[cedar kelp]

On uberroth or on the builds? In either case the answer is no, but I didn't use anything particularly original. I can direct you to relevant build guides or uberroth guides if helpful

[unreal wasp]

Maybe just which of the builds you used felt safest overall?

[cedar kelp]

Of what I used, the safest was serpent's venom druid

But there are various paladin builds that are certainly safer

[unreal wasp]

Cheers, appreciate the info and nice work.

[unreal wasp]

Are there any enemies that have native armor shred (without echo modifier)? If so, does it scale with corruption?

[limber panther]

Yes there are enemies that have native armor shred. No it won't scale with corruption

[manic sluice]

Has LE implemented any type of protection against server lagging or disconnecting and losing HC characters?

Is there a roll-back mechanic or anything yet?

[limber panther]

No specific systems no

[manic sluice]

Thank you

[steep ruin]

around 40 m ore days to go i hope this season doesnt contain a bug where mobs randomly 1shot ur hc ;I

[manic sluice]

EHG should add something like a "Scroll of Escape" (like POE 2) and if someone's latency reaches a certain threshold, it auto-uses the scroll and teleports that character back to town saving a HC death. This seems like an easy fix to people dying to server related stability issues....

[gray carbon]

nothing about that sounds easy to code

[manic sluice]

LE is such a great game with lots of industry leading ideas. I'm sure you can come up with some way to work-around players losing their HC character to server instability. That's just a suggestion that GGG has implemented in POE2. I'd love to have any kind of safe-net for this kind of loss.

[sweet yacht]

I remember the very early days of PoE when you logged out with no delay when you shut down the client with Alt + F4

That was enough of a solution for me.

Sadly PoE got worse at this point if I remember correct.

But tbf I had a few disconnects in HC in LE and it was crowdy sometimes. I feel the disconnect time in LE is not to bad. At least was always sufficent to me

[gray carbon]

yeah, im not saying something like that isnt needed. it definitely is. but it is way harder to code that compared to you just saying 'its so easy'

tho LE does have offline mode, which doesnt have that problem. a lot of HC players use that route instead of waiting for EHG to implement a change

but thats not great for everyone

[manic sluice]

Yeah, it's probably a lot more complex than any coding I've played around with. Just seems like a simple concept at a surface level.

I do like being able to play with others and help out the community, just challenging with the current absence of that safety net. =/ I've flirted with the offline mode though =/

I'm hoping to spark some curiosity and possible drive to implementation though, I'll check back at a later time.

[gray carbon]

if you want to help the cause, add it into #1210281911872786482 or #1210282176680169562 all that stuff gets taken to the devs. its the best place to voice your opinion to the devs

nothing here will reach the devs eyes

the more people the say it, the more likely it will happen sooner

[manic sluice]

I tried both but it says I don't have permission. I DM'd the @tacit tendon asking to have it put in there.

[sweet yacht]

Little overgearing does the job 🙂
But of course it would be very nice if the server would recognize disconnects sooner and react asap

[gray carbon]

you have to read the pinned post that explains how to post

which is simply add it to an existing thread

[manic sluice]

Oops! 🙂

Posted, thanks for the advice!

[loud wadi]

This is the way. You must beat all villains of Eterra, including DC

[unreal wasp]

#👑┃item-showcase message gonna be giving this to my friend who plays meme builds and will definitely die with it 🤣

so it goes on HC~

[unreal wasp]

Tomb of Vessels not a particularly dangerous echo if capable of farming 300 corruption in the first place, I assume?

[unreal wasp]

Has anyone ever survived the T4 Arbor slam?

Kinda wanna farm those boots with 2+ LP, but not worth it if every time is a lag check.

[sweet yacht]

I did a few this season, but sadly lost the char

I loaded a map and forgot once again that we don't have a grace period anymore 😬

[unreal wasp]

aw, rip

what kinda build was it?

[sweet yacht]

But you are right, Julra at T4 is scary usually.

Ah it was a VK (Warpath), he was doing great, had just got some nice stuff and was closing in to get to max level

Sad to loose a char not in fight, but rather to be stupid 😦

[unreal wasp]

oh wow, you survived the t4 julra bomb? I actually meant the one in the Lightless Arbor with the section where you burn the tree guardian before the boss

bummer way to lose a build, though

[sweet yacht]

No, I played mechanics on T4

Ahhhh "Arbor"... my reading skills. T4 and slam took all of my attention 🥲

Sorry mate. I was totally off and was speaking of Julra all the time 😄

So then on your initial question: Yeah you can survive both of the mentioned attacks. But I never even try that in HC, I usually play mechs if needed in HC

[unreal wasp]

Yeah I have 100 keys to burn, that's 100 chances to lag at the wrong moment... rather wait until I am sure I can survive it 🙂

I think I'm likely there or close, will just try to get a couple more affixes

9k armor and 4.7k block effect with 100 block, 27% DR for that slam, assuming it's phys... but only 3.1k HP, so I think maybe I aim for a bit higher there

[sweet yacht]

That alone would be more than enough for me to try it, in SC ^^

Sounds solid so far

[unreal wasp]

#👑┃item-showcase message this helps a lot 😤

[unreal wasp]

Ding! My first level 100 online HC

can't post images here tho 💀

[sweet yacht]

Gz mate!

[loud wadi]

is anyone interested in grouping up at next season start?

[unreal wasp]

I might be depending on changes. Would love to play a new support role if any opens up.

Would also love to have a team comp that really leverages synergy. Right now it feels like most of the high end team play just means buffing an already great build like storm crow/ES/poison dru rather than utilizing actual team multipliers like conflagrate node on enchant weapon in an ignite team.

[unreal wasp]

Heya folks. Right now the safest way to do Uberroth on HC is probably instakill, right? But my impression (having not done it, only seen video/discussion) is that it takes pretty precise gearing and timing, and is a little finnicky even then.

Planner I was looking at for it was this:

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0Jp5jJo

In order to make it as safe/consistent as possible, it seems like a duo would be ideal.

Has anyone already theorycrafted such a thing?

Sentinel obviously has the most buffs to work with:

• Abyssal Echoes would give a 24% more damage taken multiplier.
• Anomaly has 150% crit chance and a good bit of attack speed.
• Javelin banner has a pretty solid chunk of increased damage.
• Sigils have both crit and increased damage.
• Holy Aura has some crit chance and attack speed. Less crit than Anomaly but more attack speed (when active).

Alternately, an Acolyte:

• The Plague Bearers node of Aura of Decay with Serpent's Milk and Vile Ghast on a max minion build could dump out a pretty ridiculous number of poison stacks, especially since Aura of Decay should work on allied minions.

Are there other likely viable routes? Mage for mass frostbite stacks?

[cursive onyx]

Druid, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Primalist (20) / Shaman (25) / Druid (68)

General:

▸ Health: 1,956, Regen: 69.96/s
▸ Mana: 307.2, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 32%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 16 Dex / 16 Int / 25 Att / 55 Vit
▸ Resistances: 105% / 24% / 24% / 57% / 40% / 66% / 127%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 37%, Threshold: 391
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (180)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (706)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 11%

Used skills:

Serpent Strike / Swarmblade Form / Tornado / Summon Spriggan / Summon Thorn Totem

[small siren]

Hey all, I'm about to start a new character in HC, anyone wanna join me in leveling?

[iron arrow]

most likely people will be unmotivated to get on now sadly, as there's only a month left till the new season and most people likely got tired. I would be up for the challenge next season tho

[unreal wasp]

Is HC powerleveling a thing?

[unreal wasp]

Anyone wanna possibly throw away a fresh character testing something? Just curious how much exp you gain from it

[sweet yacht]

At least from WP sharing I know some people are looking for the same shortcuts as in SC.
Funny enough, for a few people I shared EoT on daily basis for a time in 1.1.7 ^^

I personally play HC for the opposite gameplay: No shotcuts, no early powerleveling and no unneeded (early) risk.

[unreal wasp]

Yeah, I wouldn't enjoy being powerleveled, but I wouldn't mind doing it for someone else- was mostly curious what people had figured out.

[loud wadi]

I think max XP is like 5-7 levels over your char, so not the same as like D2

[unreal wasp]

yeah, you used to be able to one shot someone from 1-100 with specific setups, years ago

I assume they nerfed that since I don't see people doing it, was just curious how much it was nerfed

[night egret]

Well you were invincible as long as you didn't move and still got exp. That was removed so that was a big blow. Since you could just afk arenas

[unreal wasp]

lol ive been level 100 for quite a while and still havent found a pair of Immortal Vise, finally looked up where they drop from

[unreal wasp]

Anyone want to duo Uberroth with me at some point? On paper I think I should be able to solo him comfortably, though it could take a while. Might be safer/faster/more fun with two, though.

Not sure how attached people are to risking their characters this late in the season.

[loud wadi]

anyone wanna start up a HC char?

[rancid ibex]

hi

[loud wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/yo-wassup-cool-peace-chewing-gif-15612552

[rancid ibex]

i died from lag

I'm gonna play something else for a while

[loud wadi]

go again

[lucid elk]

Anyone want to start a new character?

[loud wadi]

I’m down to clown if you want to start up in about an hour

[quiet gale]

Sounds fun, but I don't think I've ever done HC yet.

[lucid elk]

i was thinking tomorrow 02.8 ?

[lucid elk]

Are you still interested?

[quiet gale]

What time again? Maybe.

[lucid elk]

we are on now

[loud wadi]

anyone feel like blasting through the campaign?

[barren stone]

I’m down to start another character

I havnt even done the 2nd season yet tho still playing through main campaign.

[slim valve]

I can't wait S3, I restart a new char right now 👀

[gray sentinel]

Anyone wanna try 2 or 3 man Arenas on HC before Season2 ends (i'm on a "mediocre" builded Paladin...)?

[queen turret]

Can anyone recommend a non sentinel hardcore build for 1000C

Really want to try a non judgement paladin for a change

[gray sentinel]

I was on a Runemaster with sparks that was doing 400-500C with not big problems... died months ago at Arena 160 or similar (stupid mistake by me) but seemed can go very high on Corrup, but didnt tryed it

That one: (based on the maxroll build with some small changes): https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Katelibby/character/Pino

[gray sentinel]

I'm now on the opposite part, tryng the op Judgement Paladin... ¿how hard/easy is it really? i'm still scared vs some bosses like majasa or Aberroth (killed both once but not sure how much it resists, the damage was ok but nothing incredible, but really not sure how much i can resist in some situations...) The build rigth now is: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Katelibby/character/Puri

[queen turret]

I killed Abby , light work and I'm level 92 LOL. It's stupid. Majesa is also a joke. I'm at 500C steady

Granted this guy has a lot of gear from other ded judgement pally haha

Or at least stuff they farmed

[gray sentinel]

that link is from my actual char

[gray sentinel]

can u link the build to see if im near yours?

[queen turret]

Can do in a bit.

[gray sentinel]

no hurry, thanks

[queen turret]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqDKGaPA

[cursive onyx]

Paladin, Level 91

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (8) / Paladin (61)

General:

▸ Health: 2,382, Regen: 269.78/s
▸ Mana: 126.44, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 14 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 153% / 93% / 93% / 111% / 117% / 148% / 105%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 1,073
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (348)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,726)
▸ Block Chance: 88%, Mitigation: 50% (1,885)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 3%

Used skills:

Vengeance / Healing Hands / Judgement / Symbols of Hope / Holy Aura

[queen turret]

i think yours looks better than mine lol

[gray sentinel]

i had some items from a previous HC char...(the runemaster)

[gray sentinel]

¿u copied it manually? ¿u know u can check ur char online on lastepochtools? ¿maybe ur are playing offline?

but thanks for the big effort to copy it manually...

Are u not trolling me u are doing C500 with that pally with 0 problems??? I got not problems yet, but scared a bit, as my life nearly not move im not sure what big hit will kill me

@queen turret can i ask u... ¿are u having 1-3k ward on combat or a lot less? I think my Ring is doing the job there, but not sure

[queen turret]

I think less honestly

For Abby ..watch frozen sentinels video on how to do the fight

It's a game changer

[gray sentinel]

i know the fight, not a problem, but u know with "normal chars" 1(or 2) mistake there = dead... and not sure how hard i can resist mistakes there

[gray sentinel]

try the ring then, maybe u like it

[queen turret]

I would but I'm bored

Actually hate that playstyle

[gray sentinel]

try the runemaster

😉

[queen turret]

I'm more of a mapping gtg fast guy

Binas rune master ?

[gray sentinel]

the sparks one

[queen turret]

Is that sorc glacier levelling ?

[gray sentinel]

i never follow guides for leveling, i try to start to go to the final build from start

(with some adaptations)

[queen turret]

My first character was a sorc and switching from levelling to a real build really sucks in hard core

I'm not a hc pro by any means.

[gray sentinel]

niether me

*neither

[queen turret]

I saw pixels poison Necro build . I think that's more my jam

[gray sentinel]

i really hate minions at LE... and hate snapshoting... hope they change minions hard...

[obtuse helm]

same here

[limpid kraken]

Anyone did HC veteran boots uber aberoth yet? Planning to try this next season

[gray sentinel]

Just now completed 410 Waves on Arena, 5th on the ladder,... and still alive

With this Pala: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Katelibby/character/Puri

[gray sentinel]

LFG: for Arenas 2 or 3 people at HC.... anyone?

[low tiger]

Hey HC players, since this channel is a bit dead, let's make an important discussion for us.

In your point of view which are the main stats do you care the most when talking about HC. What do you prioritize? Or what's your "secret" combo that you always try to do ?

[pearl crag]

You have died

You have been slain by a Dead Chat from an End of Season
Killing blow damage type: classic
Killing blow damage: ??? (Crit) - Overkill damage: all

anyways here's my first abie try (quit 14 days into the league then came back): https://youtu.be/MLVTtBPSksA

has to be the most fun ARPG boss fight i've done, rivals the likes of sirus for sure, without the bullshit arena (if you also do zdps)

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/NikoTheCute/character/orbitalstrike character, completely dog gear

[limber panther]

Not knowing how to make Sirus come down because you went in blind 😔

[pearl crag]

:Aware:

[bright pebble]

What to play... what to play... Is it Judgement Paladin again? Or try the new hotness Lich? Or maybe try my luck with Falconer again... so many choices!

[balmy cove]

Ripped my pally on wave 1291 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSTpoRZYC_0
Quite happy with the run, didnt expect to go this far

[low tiger]

Totally

[low tiger]

I was about to taste lich but that int/ward/low life department I have no experience

Thinking about trying BM for the first time, however I'm more comfortable theorycrafting

[twin gyro]

For me the main stats to go for is void,nerco and phys ress in leveling/story. And overall Ill always prioritize defensive stats over dps, I play soul feast so my dps output isnt the stronges no matter how far i push it, so mixing the ward with high deff stats, and immunities is a sure route for me every season, making sure i dont lose any deff stats when i push my dps higher.

[low tiger]

Would you say its phys > void > necro > rest?

[twin gyro]

Yeah 100% phys first since most stuff deals that to you in leveling, then void as I personally feel like the route up to our class mastery is the first ''hard'' place we get to in the story and stuff starts to rly can hurt us. after that nerco since it can do lots of burst dmg, but its not something I get on my items in the leveling period, as a acolyte/warlock I get like 130% nerco ress from passives, not that i pick the passives for the ress, but its just small bonucses adding enough up to its not needed on items that early. and then after that i start slowly getting elemental resses up while keeping the rest above cap, for most surviablty, then at end game i start getting more necro ress for stracking effects.

[snow cargo]

what are hc racers playing at launch

want to try and push leaderboard to some degree

[azure hemlock]

paladin and pick your choice of judgement or smite fissure

[loud wadi]

I mean rogue is super fast. Like other classes aren’t close in terms of speed.

[jade thunder]

Not in hc

[slim valve]

Hey guys what will be your next char in HC ? on my side I would try HeartSeeker Marksman !

[graceful crane]

@slim valve explosive trap converted to freeze with 100% freeze helps a lot

[loud wadi]

Well I hear ya as a theme but my rogue majasa kill is like 2h2 min and acolyte is 2h19.

[slim valve]

Do you mean you are able to be lvl 50 and kill majasa in 2hours ?

[loud wadi]

Like lvl 46.

[jade thunder]

Ofc you can do it but rogue isn't hc class

[visual kite]

It can be. Depends entirely on the individual and the build. Is it as easy as a Sentinel? Probably not, but it's viable.

[visual kite]

Summoner, always summoner XD

Hopefully minion builds in general are a bit more viable now but not going to hold my breath.

They need a lot of help to become truly viable with the exception of 1 or 2 builds.

More help than I think we're getting.

[hazy lynx]

You can respec ascendency now right?

[gray carbon]

yes

[hoary peak]

any hc groups?

[loud wadi]

gl friends. don't die, it's easy 😉

[hazy lynx]

Patch is up, 15 gig

[pearl crag]

good luck everyone!

[polar sphinx]

hi, if I play hardcore and my friends play softcore, can I still play with them?

[visual kite]

No

[polar sphinx]

damn ok thanks

[visual kite]

Just play softcore and treat it like HC if you still want the risk of HC

I did quite like that in Terraria, but yeah. Harder to implement in a game with a ladder.

[hazy lynx]

FYI
The mobs in the hunting side areas are way overtuned. I'd be amazed if they don't get nerfed. Care!

[dusty pendant]

Those mantis mobs, thorncutters I think? Scary. Legit horriyfing. I survived but oh god. I'm not going back without more HP

[jade sequoia]

Haven't played since release, want to come back and give it a shot, and prob gonna try HC. Any solid build recommendations to get rolling? That bear build looks like it'd be good?

[hazy lynx]

Yeah I got zerged by a pack of them and 1 shot lol

https://tenor.com/view/the-crane-praying-mantis-kung-fu-gif-11926319404416040866

[tame ruin]

i think im not trying mechanic until i get at least the build going

way overtuned

[loud wadi]

I aborted the new stuff the first two times

[tame ruin]

alkLFG rank 1

[loud wadi]

rip me

[manic loom]

i just rip'd to the same exact thing raxx did....electric orb on the ground like 5 seconds after boss died....flew in out of nowhere

[south wharf]

Hi guys any insight on best build to play for rogue in hardcore?

[brisk plover]

my goal was getting to top100 this season, made it to position 5 and found my end at the hand of julra this early morning
https://www.twitch.tv/kongterton/clip/AlluringTransparentCroquetteHassanChop-x8Sd341W17Chh37k

[rough sphinx]

Played pala last season, wanna go acoloyte this time. Can anyone give me a good build for hc?

[south wharf]

guys whats the best build for rogue hardcore?

[low tiger]

anyone to start HC from scratch?

[loud wadi]

anyone wanna start up or do monos?

[junior prism]

hearthseeker good for hc?