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England isn’t under EU law is it?
yes that is correct idk why Charlotte is mentioning EU
i kinda forgot about brexit too
Because you talked about UEFA there

Not prem
UEFA adheres to EU law
Has to be more complex than that given that the associations of Israel, Kasakhstan among others are part of UEFA
I have no idea about macro economy or political science regarding this personally
It'll never be considered a monopoly, too many other high profile leagues.
no I think they can point towards Real and Barca constantly winning over top prem targets
PSG, Bayern too
Most of premier league’s success earned at as well at this point
Not sure if it’s noticeable in Europe,
But my god their marketing & broadcasting beats other top leagues by a huge margin in foreign markets
Especially in Asia & Africa
as far as large entertainment businesses go, the PL isn't that big
It can keep growing a lot
valuation is only around €8b
5 random ai startups get that kind of valuation every week 😂
Yeah easily, its marketed heavily by the top sports broadcasters and even have brand ambassadors
And maybe la liga a bit
La Liga mostly just pushes clasico & barca-real but yeah
Bundesliga has a good product
& timings as well
But they don’t seem to market it crazily
Needs a good competitior or two for bayern
Serie A is hopeless, barely has dedicated broadcasters globally
And well it kinda does run based on those two clubs in asian countries
Yeah
Rohit Sharma used to do la liga ads I remember @formal fiber
One of the reasons I think it'll stay on top.
Social media is the big thing. People are obsessed with basically stalking players pages.
Everyone speaks English. PL has more accessibility than any other league. (also why Madrid and Barca specifically are very popular)
They surely did see a rise during covid as they were the first ones to restart. Didn't capitalize much on that in asian countries tho
Damn never saw one
Yup also the league markets itself insanely well & has good match timings for asian markets
Dhoni used to do ads for premier league around 2013 time
So terrible, honestly shocking cuz atleast Ac Milan fans have a small fandom cuz of their previous era but figc won't even try
Yeah I remember that, Ranveer Singh does it now but star sports/hotstar having prem rights itself is the biggest selling point
Nobody speaks Italian, world top stars aren't there. Much harder to market
Premier league has dedicated ad campaigns, with Bollywood celebrities & cricketers also being used to advertise, with the match timings on weekends being totally accessible for the general population
Meanwhile Serie A doesn’t even have a dedicated broadcast deal 😶🌫️
Their English language broadcast is also pretty low quality
At least in Asia
Not even broadcasted on a cheap website like before. Just completely 0
Yeah
Italian football needs a lot of work in general
More teams getting their own stadia will be a good step
Milan clubs getting ownership of San Siro is a good step
But damn did it take them a lot of years
Roma new stadium feels like it's been in the works forever too
They are aiming to open it by 2028
So yeah 2 more years
Napoli need to knock down the Maradona too. It's a great atmosphere when I've been, but just out of date
Another main problem is the stadium standards, Roma and Milan clubs will meet the required standards due to their stadium being built but other clubs need to renovate too. Napoli's Maradona stadium has announced a renovation too but it would be said if its more focused on increasing capacity and not reducing that track field. Currently only Allianz stadium meets the uefa standards
Another renovation is on the cards so hopefully
Italy are hosting euros in 2032
Maybe by then
Renovations happen
But yeah other than Juventus stadium all feel out of date
Great decision from Juve back then itself to go for their own stadium
That's in doubt cuz of the stadium situation ig?
Not sure been a while since I checked that
I am pretty sure they & turkey already got confirmed hosting rights
https://qazinform.com/news/uefa-threatens-to-strip-italy-of-euro-2032-hosting-rights-927638
Read this a while back, didn't follow up on the case so not sure what the situation is like now
Turkey and Italy is so random
Weird duo for co hosting yeah 😭
Weird transition
Aren’t most Italian stadiums out of date at this rate? I know San Siro is getting work done soon
Yes according to the reports all of them are except Allianz
Yikes
Interesting
That's cool. Hoping that Louisville is one of the training locations for the FIFA 2026 World Cup. We've had some major European clubs visiting the city over the past few years including Aston Villa, CD Leganes, and Eintracht Frankfurt. Plus the facilities here are top class for US Soccer
yeah it’s cool
pretty huge
i’m not super familiar with college soccer
All the best James 👋
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Someone tell Diomande's dad that Real Madrid have more UCLs than Liverpool 😡
is Louisville near any of the stadiums that will host games?
😭😭
come on
Why are all these players fans of big clubs bro
Never hear anyone say "im a big fan of Fulham and its my dream to play for them"
You answered it yourself
It's game.
Bro tried to hit
who is this
Wdym
That people would want to join a bigger club for more wages, they will get a bigger name and sponsors for that as well.
Fulham can be above united in table like last season yet people will choose united over them
ai slop... disgusting
this gif is wrong
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Hm
Alr
hes so random at times
dont get me started in his celebrations
It's not too far from Atlanta about 5 hrs away (which is far from an European standpoint but not too bad from the USA).
@sharp cradle try not to send unnecessary ai slop
A non-league team beating the FA cup champions was not on my bingo card. That’s absolutely insane
worse than the grimsby incident
they played peak haramball (red is palace btw)
Oh my god
Even playing a like mostly B team with some A, they still should not be losing that game. But congrats Macclesfield. May the draw be in your favor for round 4
How did palace lose to 2nd division side
Reminds me of the mali vs tunisia haramball incident
27% possession 
even worse
Fa cup champions losing to a non league team is crazy work
Also they are 14th in their national league
Also for the first time since 1909, FA Cup holders get knocked out by a non-league side
nooo eineshi robbed
Bro this the worst
Placed outside the top 10
Ivory coast losing
Struggling rn
This is crazy man
Literally crying
National League North.One lower than the National League.
In our last 2 games, Enzo Fernandez has scored 2 goals
Goattagio
Charlotte look at the embarrassment of the class midfielders Milan used to have:- Savicevic, Roberto Donadoni, Rijkaard
hmm good option for fpl to replace foden if he ghosts against utd
Late 80s through to like 2011 they had a lot of quality.
Yes please sell Foden ahead of WOL(H), thanks.
Ayy the mighty wolves
Still unbeaten in 2026
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are we forgetting merino used to play cb
Imagine worrying that you "only" have 2 capable backup CBs behind a World class startin 2
when u dont
calafiori? merino? even norgaard who arteta was adamant on starting there
theres about 6 cbs in that arsenal team
Meanwhile we're wheeling out Lindelof for a month
he hasnt been shit but
give me torres back
Was good yesterday
Interesting list of many great players who have played for all of Juve, Milan and Inter
surprisingly many:
Baggio, Edgar Davids, Ibrahimovic, Vieri, Bonucci, and more
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he's done ok tbf
The Pericos draw against Levante!
Nah
Wth happend to Granada
They reached the Europa Leauge in 2020/21
And now they are losing
They are on relegation battle in Ligue 2
chat should i tune into el clasico
What bro
Olise is just that guy
sideman charity match announced damn
barca win
When is it going to be and what time?
Anyways these are my takeaways for FC Barcelona from the recent EL Clasico:
-Rapha is a big game player and shows up when it matters; he is deservedly the best player in the world even if he was injured
-Yamal's non g/a performances are sometimes more impressive than his g/a perforamnces; he ran absolute rings around their defenc
-Pedri and FDJ are the best midfield duo that my eyes have seen this season
-FDJ is a textbook specialist CDM
-Barca play an absolutely amazing type of fluid football, I don't know of many teams that match it
this is why Brasil is winning the world cup
Rapha will show up when it matters
He is an absolute beast; big game player.
basically everyone in this server was wrong about frenkie
people don't watch the games
No shot.
wanna bet?
Sure. What's the bet
stupid bet cause its coming home mate
wdym
"I saw Maradona, Messi, Pirlo, Zidane, etc etc... TRUST ME PEOPLE, Bob Crompton is the most underrated player of all time, I CAN SAY WITHOUT ANY DOUBT: Bob Crompton IS THE BEST PLAYMAKER in HISTORY of football!! No one... and I mean no one... WILL EVER... have this skills and vision on field as Bob had... I never ever seen player like him... IQ TO THE SKY... technique great 100%... total package... He was always HEART and BRAIN of every team he ever played in." - a wise guy
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Saw a video deciding on an all-time Serie A and La Liga XI and with a straight face, they tried to argue the midfield should be Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta.
The best of those 3 is maybe 4th choice in a squad.
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agreed
Moring
u went all the way back to 2021 💀
good afteroon
Xavi Busquets and Iniesta over many options like Rijkaard Gullit Totti Savicevic Donadoni Rivera Platini Zidane and Maradona?
guess the final winner club
which season and competition
also against who
GK Spain
LB Honduras
CB Paraguay
CB Austria
RB Barbados
LM Spain
CM Scotland
RM Ireland
LF Scotland
CF Ivory Coast
RF England

It's crazy isn't it. Mathaus, Gullit, Zidane before I even start thinking.
Wigan 2012-13
FA Cup against City
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I mean I had to reply to the guy
sure
wigan, 2012/13 BOB martines
FA Cup
damn it bro
Really living up to that slow part in your name
GK
LB Maynor Figueroa
CB
CB
RB
LM
it follows 😮💨

tryna remember the spanish midfielder
he was also captain for a while
came from malaga i think
Jordi Gomez
Arouna
Yeee
played for levante
That one
but Nsogbia was part of this team, maybe he missed the final?
he came from newcastle i think
Possibly
there was also a mccarthy
Seems like he wanted players, club says they don't need them.
They definitely need players
Crazy that Wigan won the FA Cup
This what happens when you don’t have authority over your players
We are cooked
When childish egos run a club 🥶
another one bites the dust 😪
Madrid are a joke
Good, Xabi can now focus on a good project
Sacking year
Xabi won 22 times , drew 4 and lost 5
let that sink in
Reports say that the squad was surprised by this sacking
I wonder if Florentino and Xabi fell out
and why
This Sht is fck up
Earlier today I read that Perez didn't want any signings this winter and that the squad is enough to compete for all trophies
Xabi obviously has eyes so disagreed
No they are not enough
Bro what?!
They did
He probably wanted more players in the window after the loss
I can't really see any other reason
chose Vini over Xabi
Xabi was one of my all time favorites as a Madrid player
When I was a kid I had one Madrid jersey
And it had his name on it
Xabi is still a great coach
Not Ronaldo or Özil or khedira or şahin
I hope he gets a better job
Like joining eintracht
I think Leverkusen desperately wants him back
I think Liverpool would also be looking
Fuck no, we are a better option
and winning the buli with them?
Leverkusen 2.0
Yes boss
Our squad finna get ripped off like them 🔥
But that's not the point
I'd have said come to fener
But brother, Tedesco is on his redemption arc rn
I read that United signed Carrick
It will open a door for eintracht frankfurt
Can be a consistent ucl team like Leverkusen
No one from the Bundesliga peeps expected tedesco to find his place at Fener
And to be fair neither did I
I appreciated that we would be getting a German Manager because they love to press and Turkish teams fold immediately when pressed
They are extremely weak to it
This is why Frankfurt obliterated both Gala and Fener
But other than that. The idea of going from Mourinho to Tedesco didn't compute to me
But I'm glad it worked out
@cyan egret i wanted to tell.u smthng
I have an eintracht career on another server and now eintracht is my favourite german club
Random fact
Perez is a massive clown
Unnecessary
Undeserved
3 managers done wrongfully this year
This Arbeloa appointment making me feel old
So many people online who don’t even know who he was😭
Real
was he an ex madrid player?
Genuinely feeling old
He was their RB before carvajal
Even after carvajal he was their backup for 3-4 years
Was in spain’s peak teams as well
Though he was benched mostly other than euro 2012
🔥
How can I forget arbeloa he was always clutching for me in pes 2016
I even call Carvajal PRbeloa
If arbeloa manages to control madrid player's Egos I think we might stand a chance
he has to be strict asf! I want that kind of discipline
gonna be a hard task
Indeed. Too many superstars and their egos is so high...
honestly what mbappe has done made me mad. on the other hand we saw xabi's weakness as a manager. he didn't showed the squad his authority as a manager and now he left madrid because he felt that madrid squad disrespected him

A few transfers are still needed
Madrid’s team is rather unbalanced rn
If he wins la liga or ucl this season
It will be purely on indivisible brute force
Next season maybe it can get better if they do the needful changes in the window
Perez smoking smth man. He thinks that signing no one is a good option and can compete in CDR, la liga and ucl...
Madrid have to spend money for cbs
And midfielder
Well they have to buy another rb too, bc Carvajal is old
Anceloti wanted a midfielder, perez ignored it. Xabi also wanted a midfielder ignored!..
Allat to still go trophyless
And Valverde playing rb just waste of talent
Maybe get your president out then you will have a future
Now players having big egos! Gosh it's a mess
A midfielder who can control the middle & pass well is needed badly, kroos has been gone for 18 months & his replacement is still missing
CB’s quality has fallen off as well
Rudiger is almost 33 & Huijsen is still young
Dare I say a winger who can contribute in defence as well
About winger kvaratskhelia is a solid choice but vinicius sadly ain't going nowhere
Kvara?
Kvaratskhelia will improve this Madrid team as a unit by a good margin
But psg are never selling & if they do it wont be at a reasonably high price
Have you seen him in french supercup final against marsellie? Bro was solid in defence as well
Kvaratskhelia is good off ball yeah
Indeed.
🤔
Can't watch a match where Marseille is playing
Shit house
Vinicius has better output individually
But someone like kvara improves their overall unit
I did and you must watch how kvara played that match
Psg will sell him for 200 mil, nobody want spend this money
Semenyo was available
But he is gone as well now
Naw it won't be
Kvara loves passing as well he ain't selfish
Either way they just won't sell him
To city right?
Yes
Semenyo is also very good off ball
But city signed him now
So I've heard. Man u wanted him badly
Tho i think Madrid will just back Vinicius
& try to make vinny X mbappe work
Bundesliga 2 got insane talents icl
It can work very easily as well
But those two just don’t want to defend
Overall perez ain't signing no one on this January's transfer window. Only positive thing is that nico paz will return from his loan
really?
sad for como
Yup. No transfers for January.
i meant abt paz
Ye. He will return soon
But I think he fina be a bench warmer🤷♂️
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Heya
Very likely
Paz is very good though
But gametime will be an issue
arda might be cooked I dont think the new manager will use him as much
He isn’t that good either way
Good connection with Mbappe tho
But don’t think he suits them
tho to be fair to him he seems to be playing out of position as well
Dont think he is a midfielder like Madrid are making him to be
Seems to be more of a pure 10 or a winger
That's what I am saying
Mastantuano fina be loaned
Could be
Real madrid are in for a long period of being trophyless
And u can blame perez for that
They have too many world class players to go trophyless for that long tbf, especially in la liga
But I don’t think they will be building a dynasty again
Still that individual quality collection is simply too much
To ever rule them out fully
What good is world class players with no vision ?
Liverpool had a galacticos team snd look at us.
Honestly, this real madrid is not scary.
For now its not
But 3 seasons is a long time
A solution can pop up even in 6 months for god knows
This season 2025/26 season though yeah i will be surprised if they achieve something impeccable
inb4 they win the ucl
To win ucl they will need mbappe or Vinicius to do a benzema 2022 demon run
& that sort of individual carry jobs are way too rare
They can carry all they want
Madrid simply does not have what it takes to win it
They're too rich. Too big to fail.
You can't have a €2b squad and not win. You will win
As a team yeah they don’t currently
Yeah i see them winning 1 or 2 ucl’s still by 2030
This season difficult though
Chelsea moment
They'll stumble upon something. For all the money in the squad they're sorely missing one or two fundamental profiles
Was gonna say too far away but it's just 5 years fairs
CL and CWC in the last 5y.
CL was before their newest spending
I don't think CWC is that major either
they won conference league anyway
massive
Too bad CWC aint rated
It'll always just be a pre-season tournament
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The fact it only happens every other year helps though
That’s the thing, it ain’t new.
That’s like saying the new ucl format is a new tournament
Which is not
It’s still the ucl
real madrid has lost their whole midfield, casemiro kroos and modric
and didnt really think of replacing properly
so its unbalanced
camavinga, tchouameni and valverde dont replace case kroos and modric
real madrid needs a metronome, a passer
no they dont, they should suffer more
When would you say they had a galacticos team?
valverde has been playing RB and Beiilingham has been playing in midfield
I'm sure many of us have said that at various points but they still manage to do it.
non sequitur
I disagree but either way the current midfield isn't anywhere close to the previous one
This year
Yet we had the worst record since 1953
Galacticos is a little strong
Bro who ping ?
I can't think of one.Maybe Salah in his prime.
We had vvd best cb itw, salah best rw itw, isak second best striker in pl, kerkez, mac and graven all players that made pl toty, wirtz who was in ballon d’or shouts, frimpong bundesliga rb of the year
U can’t tell me at the start of the season this team didn’t sell dreams
Yet here we are
Madrid can have all the stars they want
They are lack luster
The same way we are
I would only personally say Alisson, van Dijk and Salah
the last galácticos team i can think of is maybe late PSG pre-luis enrique
Messi, Neymar, Sergio Ramos
that was nuts
and they won very little
even losing a title to Lille
no UCL

All i was saying is that you arent a team of galacticos as you said you were.I agree that you should be doing better with that squad this season.
Forgot ali
Still one of the best gk itw
That he is
Lille was 2021
messi and ramos arrived 2022
and won the league
The old club world cup still exists
With the rebranded name of “intercontinental cup”
So it is technically a new tournament
That was a year before messi & ramos
Intercontiental cup is just another way for fifa to make more money
One match cash grab😭
sad
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Chelsea-Arsenal
Morocco-Nigeria
Honest predictions only🙏
honestly? 1-1 chelsea 2-2 morocco, they go thru on pens
🔥
And which game will you be watching mate
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chelsea obviously
might split scren tho
This is just Mourinho type
Hi guys
bye guys
Oh
Where are you going?
because all your fans shifted to real madrid
wdym all 💀 ??
its only those disloyal ronaldo glazers
wdym, all man utd fans in my school all follow rma
bruh following is fine
thats dfferent form supporting
?
i folloe other clubs too
wdym they r the same thing
by following i mean watching their games or following their transfers or table positions.... or rooting for them in a game where they dont play against your team
celebrating real madrid wins does count as following them?
This is just generalising
but like its 99 percent true
depends on why they celeberate but to me anyone who does not watch a club's game or doesnt know much about their history or recent news are not true fans
I mean to say that ALL united fans support madrid because some of your mates at school do is a bit unfair
but he said man utd is unjustified, if 99 percent of your fanbase is like this then
99 percent of our fanbase?
Where did you get that lol
literally just go anywhere
they are fake fans prolly
but i dont have anything against man utd fans simply following another club
thats normal
i do it myself
i dislike whoever supports real madrid
u support vallecano ?
i thought you knew 💔
i did just confirming lol
fairs
It's a banter
is fotmob not working for some of u guys too?
@flat moth see what i mean ?
What good is talent with no cohesion
Just to add on it he won a trophy in Spain before mbappe does
REAL MADRID LMFAK
Oh my I just saw the Madrid score line
And they said Xavi was the problem
My goodness
That save was diabolical 😭😭😭
Reading #football-chat make my braincells fly away
Yeah that happened. I just look at here
@kind meadow
Idk if my city throw a huge parade now after Morocco wins
Is almost 12 am
WE ARE IN THE FINAL BRO
HUUUH
We're sorry bro
Fair law but still quite dumb when your or my country wins the afcon, euro or World Cup
Random observation
It’s interesting how despite all the circumstances Iranian football has consistently been first or second best in the Middle East
Wishing Morroco good luck in the final! I root for them
Senegal fina be a tough opponent but I believe Morroco will win!
I have no where said madrid have good team cohesion or a balanced squad
But the amount of elite talent is still absurd in that squad
Are they likely to do good between now & may?
No
Will I totally rule them out?
No as well, simply way too much talent
They are far from close to winning anything major this season
But the chance isn’t 0% either
Good morning everyone
Thank you bro appreciate it
Strongest squad in the competition makes the final 🤔 wonder how that happened
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platform for more sophisticated football conv
Cuz #football-chat is toxic as hell XD
I meant the tagg i got haha
22 years we didn't make it to afcon final bro
1-0-5 soon hopefully
We cannot lose this clean sheet
I wouldn't be overly confident cuz the strikers might still fail like they did in Lecce draw
but seems like the best time to break this
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@flat moth @radiant aurora
Top players did have droughts in the past, yes
all at once tho
Though forwards were playing against the best of the best
In the last 8 years you can make an argument there's been 1 genuine world class centre back.
Who other than Vinicius is on an horrendous drought rn while being elite
not droughts in specific but we have seen the dip from foden last szn or saka underperforming from a goalscoring pov
rodrygo was on a drought until recently
Rodrygo isn’t really elite
Foden/Sak/Vinicius sort of dips are common
he is still one of the top rated forwards
I think the idea of rodrygo is engraved in people’s mind so much they confuse it with his present reality
My opinion on quality is pretty clear. A 6 won the ballon d'or against pretty minimal competition. We've had 3 players past their best win it, and a flash in the pan Dembele.
Ballon d'or isn't a great marker in general because there's no quality. Just recency bias that treats minimal quality as God like.

umm wont say messi’s or benzemas ballon dor win was a bad thing
messi won it against one of the best individual seasons we have ever seen
He is never gonna be elite playing together with both of Paixão & KyKy
& he is an idiot so he wants to stay at Madrid only
KyKy
KyKy De Bondy is his nickname
Even that's starting to go back a while now.
To an extent. He's also rarely able to play in his own position. If/when he leaves will be better for him, but who knows.
I'm hopeful for Rodrygo but time is ticking.
Yeah its no guarantee he will become elite/world class if he leaves Madrid either
But certainly a way better chance of him achieving his potential if he leaves them only
I only see him achieving it if he plays in his natural position only & thats never happening in Spain
Should have left last summer, god knows why he chose to stay
last szns award list quite embarassing
but most of it was
unfair anyways
lol
I don’t see any embarrassing player in the top 11 bar palmer(cwc tax)
Depends how you look at it
- i wasnt talking abt the ballon dor top 10
Donnarumma won stuff with PSG. But based off performances in his season? It's honestly hilarious.
What are you talking about then
Donnarumma can have an argument sure
His worst season at psg statistically
Yet it will go down as his most positively memorable psg season as well due to ucl tax
Pretty much
isn't list 1 just objectively a better set of players and seasons overall? Or is that your point?
Dembele won CL POTT innit?
I don’t see anything particularly wrong with it
Doue was UCL YPOTT
Don’t agree with that one at all
But eh, winner bias is always a case
yuh especially dat
i think dembele was also winner bias
raphinha was the better one
Mostly that the overall quality of player has diminished quite a lot
Nah, that's clearly not true
But the ballon d'or essentially is a silly list anyway that doesn't reflect the quality of a season
Well winner bias always been a thing what can we do
Rest Yamal is a generational youngster, so not really an overall football quality issue youngster wise
1 of that 2025 top top gets in to the top 20 of 2000
4s better than 1 lowkey
Raphinha is probably my favourite player of the ones currently active in europe, but dembele winning was very fair genuinely
Can’t argue much
Doue I agree lol
Was fugazi
But what can we do about winner bias
he had a good ko run but across the tournament idk
It's really sad how painfully poor football has become. But I'm hopeful it's a blip.
Pure nostalgia bias tbh, I can argue 0 of the 2000s get into the 2025 list. Zidane had an awful club campaign, rest are worse than Mbappé by far
Recency bias and social media praises mediocrity as godlike so I'm not surprised
Clearly you're so too far removed from objectivity to be reasoned with
I swear 2000 zidane was insane
Keep glazing your 1 goal in 12 UCL games forwards from 2000
In NT
He was sensational
2000 euros probably zidane’s best international campaign
Nostalgia Bias vs Recency Bias
Better than 1998 & 2006
Both are equally awful
yh
Both are imo
1 says Zidane is better than Dembele.
The other says Hakimi is better than Zidane.
Lol
Recency bias I see for players 5-10y ago, not 15-20+
We know which bias is more prevalent
never heard any of the two being said
one doesnt need to be said
Without dembele psg dont win UCL
Better than Mbappé confirmed 🤔
if mbappe doesnt leave they dont either

By using your extreme logic lol
Not that Palmer had a better season than Zidane
they dont without donna either
You can make this argument about almost any player
- Shevchenko 1 goal in 6UCL games. Better than PL G+A record setting Salah confirmed 🤔
am i wrong?
Massive for the Liverpool tie,
But dembele false nine is what changed their season
Finally got a 9 who could wreck havoc while also pressing like a maniac
Not a coincidence psg flipped a switch after his change of position
Shevchenko played in Serie A for one
without donna they get past villa either
BTW I also said ballon d'or lists aren't a good representation of overall quality
idk about that
Absolutely they don't lol
man was flying
Trust the 1 game he does anything to be against us 
But you said only 1 player from the 2025 list gets into the 2000 one?
I hate nostalgia bias more than anything
People just go and watch a game from that era
it's so slow and reactive
Nothing like football of today
everything at a far less advanced level
No
I ain’t gassing dollarumma
I hate recency bias so fair enough
I dislike recency bias too
Robot football has reduced talent
You have to compare them relatively
But people apply it less annoyingly than nostalgia bias
Instead of directly
There's a reason old past it players, Dembele and a 6 win these awards.

But it stops making sense. If the football is so much more advanced obviously you're going to see less individual brilliance dominating games
That doesn't automatically mean the players are worse
Not even close. Every take on football chat is talking about some mod career decent player of today being better than anyone pre 2012
past it players claims doesnt make sense
we see plenty still if you ask me
It's just defending has advanced far too much for superstar forwards to do whatever they want
Benzema winning a ballon d'or. Come on man.
benzema won against pretty decent top 3
Quality of football reduced over the previous decade. It's why he was second fiddle to Higuain. But quality dried up and raised him up.
Messi 2023 yeah,
But he didn’t deserve it imo
He literally had a trillion UCL goals carrying them to a win 😭 how is a flat nothing of a figo season better than that 😭😭
absolutely incredible campaign for a midfielder and he won it over him
Far more complete than Shevchenko and Batistuta too
Sob for the most obvious and true thing ever
We have an old Roy Keane running over Cesc and others who played on in to the 2010s, but there's no way prime Keane could possibly compete
Difference of opinion
Sure man
Hakimi over Zidane is quite the opinion
😭✌️
In my opinion 1 goal in 2000 = 50 goals in 2025 ✅✅
Yup more or less
9 goals > 28 goals is an even greater of an opinion
Meh. I saw football before Messi and Ronaldo dominance. I know many didn't
same vibes
Tbf figo was a winger
Insane glaze for the flattest most mediocre season from figo but scoring in every single round of the UCL KO stages Hakimi is supposed to be dogshit
That too more so in a 442
Do you actually think hakimi>zidane tho😭
It's almost as if they weren't around and had no idea
In general I agree that hakimi 2025 is one of the better individual full back seasons
But😭
Apparently I have a bias over 2 periods of my life that I have lived.
But people who have only lived 1 and consider that better have no bias.
🤷🏼♀️
Nah I have actually talked with him on this topic before
He just very strongly disagrees that the current era of football is inferior
no he clarified earlier
Then we're coming at it from a POV that we will never agree on.
His opinion is that most of it is down to tactical innovations & physical improvement
Oh fair enough then lol
I already replied to that, obviously not but you're focusing on that as if what I wasn't replying to wasn't even crazier
Literal nothing seasons from half the list
Retegui numbers from the serie a cfs
Nowhere near peak Higuain 36
Well the 1 player from 2025 being in the top 20 of 2000 is also extreme sure
Yh lol Mbappé and Salah broke multiple records
Eh but serie a was actually elite then also
And again it comes to POV
Almost all of the top 10 had way too good defences
In my opinion only 2 world class defenders of the last decade. 1 of them plays with Salah
Thats not the case for retegui & friends era
Don't come at me with Sergio Ramos lol
You still think in terms of individuals. Current Brentford would eradicate any team from that era purely on proactive defending and intensity
Direct comparisons 😔
serie a 2026
It's like they played a different sport.
2000s Serie A was much superior than 2005 Ligue 1.
The quality of football was also more dispersed back then, while centralised now.
Thats why we shall compare relatively
Less good teams generally speaking. PSG beat a mediocre Villa and a bad Inter team
Yeah that's fair but not true within the PL
All PL clubs are fairly rich
less inequality compared to other leagues
The fact Villa are arguably a top 10 team in the world in 2026
and why shouldnt they be 
Because we're toothless. Alright defensively. Good coach and central midfield but that's it.
Game didn't evolve much till Pep's revolution imo. Been a rollercoaster of dominating ideas since
With each strategy becoming obsolete the next season
I wouldn’t credit pep solely for it
I meant between late 90s to 2008
Germans also deserve a lot of the credit
obviously before then
Yep I said rollercoaster of dominating ideas since. He just started the chain
One thing I won't comment on is general coaching. Watching the game as a kid it wasn't really as aspect I understood at any meaningful level
If people want to say its improved, I'm not going to argue that.
There is definitely some objectivity there though
It would be interesting to see Pep at international level but I don't think it happens.
Not the Kimmich mentality in there
everybody catches that
No chance
I don't think pep will carry his principles to NT football
Would be very interesting yh
england have insane amount of talent sitting there for pep to utilize it
depends on how much they try to convince him
England wouldn't have a striker which is a problem
He has said he wants to
So I think it will before he retires
Idk what team tho
i dont understand
England seem the only realistic one to me as well
A good CF will emerge by the time Kane is gone
probably not spain
Highly doubt Spain
If Pep took over. We're looking at a 35+ Kane at best.
As they like hiring foreign coaches & pep been there for far too long
He is never coaching Spain lol
I legit can't even think of another England striker. Watkins, Delap, DLC are the next actual options?
Brentfords man
Someone can come up
not taht hes great
I don’t think it will be a job before 2030’s for pep
peps gonna play a false 9 with foden who will win the golden boot and bring wc back home
I think he leaves city in 2027 then takes a break for 2-3 years
Then in 2030’s dive into internal coaching
simple script rlly
Pep is the only coach he's ever had right?
yes
yh
All of the current squad is pep signings
this is foden according to gemini
yh probs
I see them winning 2028 euros perhaps due to home advantage
nah
2026 wc cant rule them out either
They have way too much talent & there are still 4 years by 2030
I wouldn’t rule them out for 2026 either
They are the 3rd best placed team according to me
who da first 2
spain and france?
Yes
I have them 4th
But I don’t think they will win
Too weak flank players now in comparison to 2022
Messi also not as good as he was in 2022
Portugal & Germany outside chance
france have a very good squad except for midfield
Brazil & Netherlands ig have a non zero chance
But I would be shocked if they do it
What's Spain back 5?
Yeah I can see a world where they don't win it.
rodri pedri fabian midfield most likely
or like olmo
or zubi
idk their midfield kind of stacked
This is what I had in my mind after the draw
yamal nico
have they upgraded their striker
or is it still
morata
Norway beating Brazil
They are the favourites
But not heavy favourites imo like a lot of people are making them to be
We're one of like 3 countries to have a winning record for Brazil as it is.
Worst ever Brazil, best ever Norway. Just saying, there's a chance.
Best team going into the tournament certainly
But them losing wont be a shock or anything
brasil dont have a strong squad anyways
what is it
allisson
marquinhos
Brazil are horrid
Least hyped Brazilianteam in forever
vini rodrygo estevao
Raphinha starts often
oh yh
forgot bim
so vini raphinha
depends on who plays as a 9
Richarlison most likely
Dw ancelotti will probably as well
gabi jesus and richi 🥀
ancelloti gonna bench him for vini
and rodrygo
200%
his sons
brasil have attacking “depth” but they all mid af
estevao savio martinelli
gabi jesus
do they deadass not have a creative midfielder
oh
nvm
still ass
lowkey should play savio as a 10
Not really
Maybe with someone like Cunha behind a striker.
forgot him
hes good tbf
i like him
I think it's Brazil v England QF assuming favourites win their groups
Or is it Ro16. Somewhere around there.
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Ouch...
thats just wrong selection
I can't think of a Brazilian left back beyond Alex Sandro
New Daily Question:
think its more like this
Yeah the one I posted was non serious. Can't see Rodrygo in the 6
But that looks more or less it. It's not great is it.
Horrendous team genuinely
Imagine tho, its a knockout tournament so anything can happen😂
Worst Brazilian side of the 21st century winning the world cup somehow will be so funny
without ney 🕊️
it would indeed
might have confused it with Rodrigo
yuh
germany winning the world cup in america would be more hillarious
the most hilarious thing would be iran winning it though