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inland plover
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What about EU law on monopolies and can the Premier League be considered as one, regarding the market of player transfers

flat moth
inland plover
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yes that is correct idk why Charlotte is mentioning EU

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i kinda forgot about brexit too

flat moth
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Not prem

inland plover
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Yes, english football is under UEFA

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UEFA is not the UE ...

ionic sail
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UEFA adheres to EU law

inland plover
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Has to be more complex than that given that the associations of Israel, Kasakhstan among others are part of UEFA

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I have no idea about macro economy or political science regarding this personally

radiant aurora
eager wasp
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PSG, Bayern too

flat moth
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Most of premier league’s success earned at as well at this point

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Not sure if it’s noticeable in Europe,
But my god their marketing & broadcasting beats other top leagues by a huge margin in foreign markets

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Especially in Asia & Africa

eager wasp
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as far as large entertainment businesses go, the PL isn't that big

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It can keep growing a lot

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valuation is only around €8b

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5 random ai startups get that kind of valuation every week 😂

formal fiber
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And maybe la liga a bit

flat moth
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Bundesliga has a good product
& timings as well

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But they don’t seem to market it crazily

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Needs a good competitior or two for bayern

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Serie A is hopeless, barely has dedicated broadcasters globally

formal fiber
flat moth
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Rohit Sharma used to do la liga ads I remember @formal fiber

radiant aurora
formal fiber
formal fiber
flat moth
flat moth
formal fiber
formal fiber
radiant aurora
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Nobody speaks Italian, world top stars aren't there. Much harder to market

flat moth
flat moth
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At least in Asia

formal fiber
radiant aurora
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Italian football needs a lot of work in general

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More teams getting their own stadia will be a good step

formal fiber
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But damn did it take them a lot of years

radiant aurora
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Roma new stadium feels like it's been in the works forever too

formal fiber
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So yeah 2 more years

radiant aurora
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Napoli need to knock down the Maradona too. It's a great atmosphere when I've been, but just out of date

formal fiber
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Another main problem is the stadium standards, Roma and Milan clubs will meet the required standards due to their stadium being built but other clubs need to renovate too. Napoli's Maradona stadium has announced a renovation too but it would be said if its more focused on increasing capacity and not reducing that track field. Currently only Allianz stadium meets the uefa standards

formal fiber
flat moth
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Italy are hosting euros in 2032

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Maybe by then

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Renovations happen

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But yeah other than Juventus stadium all feel out of date

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Great decision from Juve back then itself to go for their own stadium

formal fiber
flat moth
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Is it

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They were confirmed hosts

formal fiber
flat moth
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I am pretty sure they & turkey already got confirmed hosting rights

formal fiber
# flat moth I am pretty sure they & turkey already got confirmed hosting rights

https://qazinform.com/news/uefa-threatens-to-strip-italy-of-euro-2032-hosting-rights-927638

Read this a while back, didn't follow up on the case so not sure what the situation is like now

Qazinform.com

Italy faces what local media call a “national disgrace” and “catastrophe” as UEFA warns it may transfer the entire Euro 2032 football championship to Türkiye due to Italy’s stadium problems, reports a Kazinform News Agency correspondent.

radiant aurora
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Turkey and Italy is so random

dusty totem
formal fiber
hasty fog
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Aren’t most Italian stadiums out of date at this rate? I know San Siro is getting work done soon

formal fiber
hasty fog
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Yikes

blissful fulcrum
trim oasis
patent copper
blissful fulcrum
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pretty huge

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i’m not super familiar with college soccer

neon bloom
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All the best James 👋

rocky vortex
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What is this

tropic flintBOT
hybrid muralBOT
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zealous geyser
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Bro

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VIP tickets yall

heavy fjord
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Hello

zealous geyser
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Another VIP

dire stratus
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Hi

eager wasp
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Someone tell Diomande's dad that Real Madrid have more UCLs than Liverpool 😡

inland plover
sharp cradle
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Never hear anyone say "im a big fan of Fulham and its my dream to play for them"

devout spear
eager wasp
zealous geyser
inland plover
sharp cradle
cyan egret
# sharp cradle Wdym

That people would want to join a bigger club for more wages, they will get a bigger name and sponsors for that as well.

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Fulham can be above united in table like last season yet people will choose united over them

dire stratus
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ai slop... disgusting

inland plover
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this gif is wrong

past fern
dire stratus
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dont get me started in his celebrations

trim oasis
neon forum
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@sharp cradle try not to send unnecessary ai slop

lusty bay
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Ilyas smashed that one in

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Oviedo Betis 1-0 (Ilyas GOALLL for Oviedo)

hasty fog
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A non-league team beating the FA cup champions was not on my bingo card. That’s absolutely insane

dire stratus
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they played peak haramball (red is palace btw)

hasty fog
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Oh my god

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Even playing a like mostly B team with some A, they still should not be losing that game. But congrats Macclesfield. May the draw be in your favor for round 4

livid berry
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How did palace lose to 2nd division side

livid berry
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27% possession wuf

granite notch
livid berry
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DAMN

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NATIONAL LEAGUE?

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Thats just insane tbh

hexed python
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yo so why are we still talking about it

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why tf did everyone watch the game

livid berry
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Also they are 14th in their national league

livid berry
hasty fog
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6th tier National league north

mint sierra
shrewd fractal
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nooo eineshi robbed

indigo knoll
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Bro this the worst

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Placed outside the top 10

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Ivory coast losing

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Struggling rn

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This is crazy man

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Literally crying

tepid notch
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@flat moth he got muted

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🤣

radiant aurora
modern kernel
lusty bay
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In our last 2 games, Enzo Fernandez has scored 2 goals

lusty bay
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Charlotte look at the embarrassment of the class midfielders Milan used to have:- Savicevic, Roberto Donadoni, Rijkaard

cold furnace
radiant aurora
eager wasp
cold furnace
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Still unbeaten in 2026

eager wasp
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Well in

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Foden -> Bruno the week after 👍🏼

tropic flintBOT
stable oriole
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are we forgetting merino used to play cb

radiant aurora
stable oriole
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calafiori? merino? even norgaard who arteta was adamant on starting there

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theres about 6 cbs in that arsenal team

radiant aurora
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Meanwhile we're wheeling out Lindelof for a month

rough star
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give me torres back

radiant aurora
radiant aurora
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Interesting list of many great players who have played for all of Juve, Milan and Inter

dire stratus
past fern
modern kernel
drowsy remnant
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lol

flat moth
trim oasis
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The Pericos draw against Levante!

modern sonnet
hard dragon
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Wth happend to Granada

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They reached the Europa Leauge in 2020/21

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And now they are losing

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They are on relegation battle in Ligue 2

bitter shard
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chat should i tune into el clasico

round umbra
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What bro

umbral scaffold
shrewd fractal
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sideman charity match announced damn

bitter shard
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barca win

stark oriole
pure steppe
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Anyways these are my takeaways for FC Barcelona from the recent EL Clasico:
-Rapha is a big game player and shows up when it matters; he is deservedly the best player in the world even if he was injured
-Yamal's non g/a performances are sometimes more impressive than his g/a perforamnces; he ran absolute rings around their defenc
-Pedri and FDJ are the best midfield duo that my eyes have seen this season
-FDJ is a textbook specialist CDM
-Barca play an absolutely amazing type of fluid football, I don't know of many teams that match it

inland plover
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Rapha will show up when it matters

pure steppe
blissful fulcrum
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people don't watch the games

inland plover
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Not me

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always rated frenkie

radiant aurora
inland plover
radiant aurora
inland plover
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Brasil winning

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ah u mean

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what do we bet

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gm

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hm

sharp cradle
sharp cradle
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wdym

lusty bay
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"I saw Maradona, Messi, Pirlo, Zidane, etc etc... TRUST ME PEOPLE, Bob Crompton is the most underrated player of all time, I CAN SAY WITHOUT ANY DOUBT: Bob Crompton IS THE BEST PLAYMAKER in HISTORY of football!! No one... and I mean no one... WILL EVER... have this skills and vision on field as Bob had... I never ever seen player like him... IQ TO THE SKY... technique great 100%... total package... He was always HEART and BRAIN of every team he ever played in." - a wise guy

tropic flintBOT
hybrid muralBOT
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cosmic bolt
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yo

radiant aurora
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Saw a video deciding on an all-time Serie A and La Liga XI and with a straight face, they tried to argue the midfield should be Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta.

The best of those 3 is maybe 4th choice in a squad.

serene dragon
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Do not forget to read this

meager geyser
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agreed

runic herald
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Moring

dire stratus
dire stratus
still sapphire
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Bwck here again

lusty bay
slender otter
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guess the final winner club
which season and competition
also against who
GK Spain
LB Honduras
CB Paraguay
CB Austria
RB Barbados
LM Spain
CM Scotland
RM Ireland
LF Scotland
CF Ivory Coast
RF England

radiant aurora
night schooner
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FA Cup against City

neon bloom
past fern
meager geyser
dire stratus
inland plover
inland plover
night schooner
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Really living up to that slow part in your name

inland plover
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GK
LB Maynor Figueroa
CB
CB
RB
LM

inland plover
night schooner
inland plover
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tryna remember the spanish midfielder

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he was also captain for a while

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came from malaga i think

night schooner
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Jordi Gomez

inland plover
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Thats the one

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Ivory was Nsogbia i think

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ex newcastle

night schooner
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Nah

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Kone

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idk his first name

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Artona or sum

inland plover
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Arouna

night schooner
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Yeee

inland plover
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played for levante

night schooner
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That one

inland plover
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but Nsogbia was part of this team, maybe he missed the final?

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he came from newcastle i think

night schooner
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Possibly

inland plover
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there was also a mccarthy

night schooner
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We all know the RF one

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Mr McManaman

haughty cove
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welll

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xabi

radiant aurora
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Seems like he wanted players, club says they don't need them.

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They definitely need players

devout spear
runic herald
edgy magnet
# devout spear

This what happens when you don’t have authority over your players

south helm
radiant aurora
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When childish egos run a club 🥶

dire stratus
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another one bites the dust 😪

hasty fog
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Madrid are a joke

inland plover
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Good, Xabi can now focus on a good project

cyan egret
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Sacking year

inland plover
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Xabi won 22 times , drew 4 and lost 5

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let that sink in

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Reports say that the squad was surprised by this sacking

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I wonder if Florentino and Xabi fell out

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and why

south helm
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This Sht is fck up

radiant aurora
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Earlier today I read that Perez didn't want any signings this winter and that the squad is enough to compete for all trophies

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Xabi obviously has eyes so disagreed

unborn jetty
cyan egret
inland plover
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I'm suspecting Xabi wanted Vini out

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and Floren said no

cyan egret
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He probably wanted more players in the window after the loss

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I can't really see any other reason

inland plover
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chose Vini over Xabi

unborn jetty
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Xabi was one of my all time favorites as a Madrid player

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When I was a kid I had one Madrid jersey

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And it had his name on it

cyan egret
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He will join us now

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👀

inland plover
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Xabi is still a great coach

unborn jetty
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Not Ronaldo or Özil or khedira or şahin

inland plover
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I hope he gets a better job

cyan egret
unborn jetty
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I think Leverkusen desperately wants him back

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I think Liverpool would also be looking

cyan egret
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Fuck no, we are a better option

inland plover
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and winning the buli with them?

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Leverkusen 2.0

cyan egret
cyan egret
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But that's not the point

unborn jetty
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I'd have said come to fener

But brother, Tedesco is on his redemption arc rn

inland plover
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I read that United signed Carrick

cyan egret
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It will open a door for eintracht frankfurt

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Can be a consistent ucl team like Leverkusen

unborn jetty
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No one from the Bundesliga peeps expected tedesco to find his place at Fener

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And to be fair neither did I

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I appreciated that we would be getting a German Manager because they love to press and Turkish teams fold immediately when pressed

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They are extremely weak to it

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This is why Frankfurt obliterated both Gala and Fener

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But other than that. The idea of going from Mourinho to Tedesco didn't compute to me

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But I'm glad it worked out

modern kernel
heavy fjord
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@cyan egret i wanted to tell.u smthng

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I have an eintracht career on another server and now eintracht is my favourite german club

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Random fact

dark badger
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Undeserved

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3 managers done wrongfully this year

flat moth
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This Arbeloa appointment making me feel old

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So many people online who don’t even know who he was😭

shrewd fractal
flat moth
flat moth
shrewd fractal
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zidane regen trust

flat moth
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Even after carvajal he was their backup for 3-4 years

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Was in spain’s peak teams as well
Though he was benched mostly other than euro 2012

sterile forge
radiant aurora
sterile forge
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If arbeloa manages to control madrid player's Egos I think we might stand a chance

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he has to be strict asf! I want that kind of discipline

sterile forge
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honestly what mbappe has done made me mad. on the other hand we saw xabi's weakness as a manager. he didn't showed the squad his authority as a manager and now he left madrid because he felt that madrid squad disrespected him

flat moth
flat moth
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Madrid’s team is rather unbalanced rn

flat moth
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Next season maybe it can get better if they do the needful changes in the window

sterile forge
vapid oxide
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Madrid have to spend money for cbs

sterile forge
vapid oxide
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Well they have to buy another rb too, bc Carvajal is old

sterile forge
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Anceloti wanted a midfielder, perez ignored it. Xabi also wanted a midfielder ignored!..

cyan egret
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Allat to still go trophyless

vapid oxide
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And Valverde playing rb just waste of talent

cyan egret
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Maybe get your president out then you will have a future

sterile forge
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Now players having big egos! Gosh it's a mess

flat moth
sterile forge
cyan egret
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Does he even contribute in defence

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😭

sterile forge
flat moth
sterile forge
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Have you seen him in french supercup final against marsellie? Bro was solid in defence as well

flat moth
cyan egret
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Can't watch a match where Marseille is playing

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Shit house

flat moth
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Vinicius has better output individually

But someone like kvara improves their overall unit

sterile forge
vapid oxide
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Psg will sell him for 200 mil, nobody want spend this money

flat moth
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Semenyo was available
But he is gone as well now

cyan egret
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Naw it won't be

sterile forge
cyan egret
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Either way they just won't sell him

sterile forge
flat moth
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Semenyo is also very good off ball

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But city signed him now

sterile forge
cyan egret
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Ebnoutalib can contribute in defence as well, our new striker

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👀

flat moth
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Tho i think Madrid will just back Vinicius
& try to make vinny X mbappe work

cyan egret
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Bundesliga 2 got insane talents icl

flat moth
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It can work very easily as well
But those two just don’t want to defend

sterile forge
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Overall perez ain't signing no one on this January's transfer window. Only positive thing is that nico paz will return from his loan

sterile forge
shrewd fractal
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i meant abt paz

sterile forge
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But I think he fina be a bench warmer🤷‍♂️

tropic flintBOT
hybrid muralBOT
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vestal ruin
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Heya

flat moth
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Paz is very good though

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But gametime will be an issue

cosmic bolt
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arda might be cooked I dont think the new manager will use him as much

flat moth
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Good connection with Mbappe tho

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But don’t think he suits them

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tho to be fair to him he seems to be playing out of position as well

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Dont think he is a midfielder like Madrid are making him to be

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Seems to be more of a pure 10 or a winger

sterile forge
flat moth
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Paz

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Mastantuono

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Guler

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All 3 together feels odd

sterile forge
flat moth
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Could be

feral smelt
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And u can blame perez for that

flat moth
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They have too many world class players to go trophyless for that long tbf, especially in la liga

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But I don’t think they will be building a dynasty again

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Still that individual quality collection is simply too much
To ever rule them out fully

feral smelt
flat moth
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For now its not

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But 3 seasons is a long time

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A solution can pop up even in 6 months for god knows

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This season 2025/26 season though yeah i will be surprised if they achieve something impeccable

feral smelt
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Madrid ain’t be winning the ucl

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They won’t even reach the semis

flat moth
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& that sort of individual carry jobs are way too rare

feral smelt
eager wasp
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They're too rich. Too big to fail.

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You can't have a €2b squad and not win. You will win

flat moth
flat moth
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This season difficult though

naive frigate
eager wasp
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They'll stumble upon something. For all the money in the squad they're sorely missing one or two fundamental profiles

eager wasp
eager wasp
naive frigate
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I don't think CWC is that major either

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they won conference league anyway

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massive

flat moth
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Chelsea conference win feels so embarrassing

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CWC win of there’s i rate tbf

night schooner
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Too bad CWC aint rated

flat moth
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New tournament still

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Will take years to be rated

radiant aurora
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It'll always just be a pre-season tournament

past fern
eager wasp
feral smelt
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That’s like saying the new ucl format is a new tournament
Which is not

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It’s still the ucl

inland plover
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real madrid has lost their whole midfield, casemiro kroos and modric

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and didnt really think of replacing properly

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so its unbalanced

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camavinga, tchouameni and valverde dont replace case kroos and modric

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real madrid needs a metronome, a passer

granite notch
modern kernel
modern kernel
modern kernel
modern kernel
feral smelt
radiant aurora
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Galacticos is a little strong

hushed arch
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Bro who ping ?

modern kernel
feral smelt
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U can’t tell me at the start of the season this team didn’t sell dreams

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Yet here we are

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Madrid can have all the stars they want
They are lack luster

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The same way we are

radiant aurora
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I would only personally say Alisson, van Dijk and Salah

inland plover
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the last galácticos team i can think of is maybe late PSG pre-luis enrique

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Messi, Neymar, Sergio Ramos

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that was nuts

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and they won very little

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even losing a title to Lille

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no UCL

mental eagle
modern kernel
feral smelt
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Still one of the best gk itw

modern kernel
stark oriole
dusty totem
stark oriole
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❤️

bitter shard
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messi and ramos arrived 2022

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and won the league

inland plover
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i was unsure of the timeline

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well ig no UCL pretty bad

flat moth
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With the rebranded name of “intercontinental cup”

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So it is technically a new tournament

flat moth
hasty fog
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Intercontiental cup is just another way for fifa to make more money

cyan egret
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One match cash grab😭

granite notch
tropic flintBOT
radiant aurora
sterile jetty
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Chelsea-Arsenal
Morocco-Nigeria

Honest predictions only🙏

shrewd fractal
sterile jetty
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And which game will you be watching mate

past fern
shrewd fractal
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might split scren tho

sour trail
south helm
shy sinew
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Hi guys

hexed python
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bye guys

shy sinew
radiant aurora
feral smelt
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More please

dire stratus
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Man utd hate so unjustified

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😔

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we be catching way too many strays these days

granite notch
dire stratus
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its only those disloyal ronaldo glazers

granite notch
dire stratus
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thats dfferent form supporting

granite notch
dire stratus
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i folloe other clubs too

granite notch
dire stratus
granite notch
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celebrating real madrid wins does count as following them?

celest marsh
granite notch
dire stratus
celest marsh
granite notch
celest marsh
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Where did you get that lol

granite notch
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literally just go anywhere

dire stratus
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they are fake fans prolly

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but i dont have anything against man utd fans simply following another club

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thats normal

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i do it myself

granite notch
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i dislike whoever supports real madrid

dire stratus
granite notch
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i thought you knew 💔

dire stratus
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i did just confirming lol

feral smelt
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So it ain’t

dire stratus
cyan egret
thin bear
edgy shadow
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is fotmob not working for some of u guys too?

thin bear
feral smelt
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@flat moth see what i mean ?
What good is talent with no cohesion

edgy magnet
# sour trail

Just to add on it he won a trophy in Spain before mbappe does

sour trail
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REAL MADRID LMFAK

hasty fog
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Oh my I just saw the Madrid score line

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And they said Xavi was the problem

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My goodness

thin bear
dusty totem
gritty agate
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That save was diabolical 😭😭😭

patent copper
hard dragon
hasty fog
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Yeah that happened. I just look at here

hard dragon
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@kind meadow

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Idk if my city throw a huge parade now after Morocco wins

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Is almost 12 am

kind meadow
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HUUUH

hard dragon
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Is because people can't make loud noises after 10 pm

kind meadow
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We're sorry bro

thin bear
hard dragon
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Fair law but still quite dumb when your or my country wins the afcon, euro or World Cup

lost horizon
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Random observation

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It’s interesting how despite all the circumstances Iranian football has consistently been first or second best in the Middle East

stark oriole
sterile forge
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Senegal fina be a tough opponent but I believe Morroco will win!

flat moth
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They are far from close to winning anything major this season

But the chance isn’t 0% either

exotic heath
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I found this gem

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After Nigeria lost to Morocco

kind meadow
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Good morning everyone

kind meadow
eager wasp
tropic flintBOT
hybrid muralBOT
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rapid storm
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What is this kekw

torpid halo
rapid storm
kind meadow
feral smelt
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Mourinho ball

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About to gift juventus their very first win ever against us

formal fiber
feral smelt
formal fiber
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but seems like the best time to break this

neon forum
radiant aurora
neon forum
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all at once tho

radiant aurora
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Though forwards were playing against the best of the best

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In the last 8 years you can make an argument there's been 1 genuine world class centre back.

flat moth
neon forum
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not droughts in specific but we have seen the dip from foden last szn or saka underperforming from a goalscoring pov
rodrygo was on a drought until recently

flat moth
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Foden/Sak/Vinicius sort of dips are common

neon forum
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he is still one of the top rated forwards

flat moth
radiant aurora
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My opinion on quality is pretty clear. A 6 won the ballon d'or against pretty minimal competition. We've had 3 players past their best win it, and a flash in the pan Dembele.

Ballon d'or isn't a great marker in general because there's no quality. Just recency bias that treats minimal quality as God like.

neon forum
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messi won it against one of the best individual seasons we have ever seen

flat moth
flat moth
radiant aurora
neon forum
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u refered to it so thats why i mentioned

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my argument was for

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like post 22/23

radiant aurora
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I'm hopeful for Rodrygo but time is ticking.

flat moth
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I only see him achieving it if he plays in his natural position only & thats never happening in Spain

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Should have left last summer, god knows why he chose to stay

neon forum
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last szns award list quite embarassing

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but most of it was

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unfair anyways

radiant aurora
flat moth
radiant aurora
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Depends how you look at it

neon forum
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  • i wasnt talking abt the ballon dor top 10
radiant aurora
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Donnarumma won stuff with PSG. But based off performances in his season? It's honestly hilarious.

flat moth
neon forum
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each awards winner

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i dont agree with the Cl one

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especially

flat moth
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Yet it will go down as his most positively memorable psg season as well due to ucl tax

radiant aurora
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Pretty much

eager wasp
# radiant aurora lol

isn't list 1 just objectively a better set of players and seasons overall? Or is that your point?

flat moth
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Doue was UCL YPOTT
Don’t agree with that one at all
But eh, winner bias is always a case

neon forum
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i think dembele was also winner bias

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raphinha was the better one

radiant aurora
eager wasp
radiant aurora
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But the ballon d'or essentially is a silly list anyway that doesn't reflect the quality of a season

flat moth
# neon forum yuh especially dat

Well winner bias always been a thing what can we do

Rest Yamal is a generational youngster, so not really an overall football quality issue youngster wise

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#7 on the first list is miles ahead of #1 on the second list

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2025 > 2000

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Overall

radiant aurora
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1 of that 2025 top top gets in to the top 20 of 2000

neon forum
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4s better than 1 lowkey

flat moth
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Doue I agree lol
Was fugazi

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But what can we do about winner bias

neon forum
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he had a good ko run but across the tournament idk

radiant aurora
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It's really sad how painfully poor football has become. But I'm hopeful it's a blip.

eager wasp
radiant aurora
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Recency bias and social media praises mediocrity as godlike so I'm not surprised

eager wasp
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Clearly you're so too far removed from objectivity to be reasoned with

flat moth
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I swear 2000 zidane was insane

eager wasp
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Keep glazing your 1 goal in 12 UCL games forwards from 2000

eager wasp
radiant aurora
flat moth
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2000 euros probably zidane’s best international campaign

neon forum
flat moth
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Better than 1998 & 2006

flat moth
eager wasp
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Nostalgia bias is a lot stronger in football en

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rn*

neon forum
flat moth
radiant aurora
eager wasp
radiant aurora
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We know which bias is more prevalent

flat moth
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I don’t think even Moroccans or PSG fans will agree with Hakimi>zidane

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😭

neon forum
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one doesnt need to be said

flat moth
eager wasp
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Better than Mbappé confirmed 🤔

flat moth
eager wasp
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Not that Palmer had a better season than Zidane

neon forum
radiant aurora
eager wasp
# radiant aurora lol
  1. Shevchenko 1 goal in 6UCL games. Better than PL G+A record setting Salah confirmed 🤔
flat moth
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Finally got a 9 who could wreck havoc while also pressing like a maniac

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Not a coincidence psg flipped a switch after his change of position

radiant aurora
neon forum
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BTW I also said ballon d'or lists aren't a good representation of overall quality

flat moth
neon forum
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rewatch the game

radiant aurora
neon forum
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man was flying

radiant aurora
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Trust the 1 game he does anything to be against us kekw

eager wasp
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I hate nostalgia bias more than anything

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People just go and watch a game from that era

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it's so slow and reactive

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Nothing like football of today

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everything at a far less advanced level

flat moth
radiant aurora
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I hate recency bias so fair enough

eager wasp
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I dislike recency bias too

radiant aurora
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Robot football has reduced talent

flat moth
eager wasp
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But people apply it less annoyingly than nostalgia bias

flat moth
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Instead of directly

radiant aurora
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There's a reason old past it players, Dembele and a 6 win these awards.

neon forum
eager wasp
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That doesn't automatically mean the players are worse

radiant aurora
neon forum
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past it players claims doesnt make sense

flat moth
eager wasp
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It's just defending has advanced far too much for superstar forwards to do whatever they want

radiant aurora
neon forum
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benzema won against pretty decent top 3

flat moth
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I don’t think benzema was past it to be honest

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Was his peak if anything

radiant aurora
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Quality of football reduced over the previous decade. It's why he was second fiddle to Higuain. But quality dried up and raised him up.

flat moth
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Messi 2023 yeah,
But he didn’t deserve it imowidechiesa

eager wasp
neon forum
eager wasp
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Far more complete than Shevchenko and Batistuta too

eager wasp
radiant aurora
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We have an old Roy Keane running over Cesc and others who played on in to the 2010s, but there's no way prime Keane could possibly compete

eager wasp
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Benzema is one of the best CFs ever

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This chat is supposed to be serious I thought

flat moth
eager wasp
radiant aurora
flat moth
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😭✌️

eager wasp
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In my opinion 1 goal in 2000 = 50 goals in 2025 ✅✅

eager wasp
radiant aurora
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Meh. I saw football before Messi and Ronaldo dominance. I know many didn't

flat moth
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Tbf figo was a winger

eager wasp
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Insane glaze for the flattest most mediocre season from figo but scoring in every single round of the UCL KO stages Hakimi is supposed to be dogshit

flat moth
flat moth
radiant aurora
flat moth
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In general I agree that hakimi 2025 is one of the better individual full back seasons

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But😭

radiant aurora
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Apparently I have a bias over 2 periods of my life that I have lived.

But people who have only lived 1 and consider that better have no bias.

🤷🏼‍♀️

flat moth
neon forum
radiant aurora
flat moth
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His opinion is that most of it is down to tactical innovations & physical improvement

eager wasp
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Literal nothing seasons from half the list

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Retegui numbers from the serie a cfs

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Nowhere near peak Higuain 36

flat moth
eager wasp
flat moth
eager wasp
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But CL numbers also shit

radiant aurora
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And again it comes to POV

flat moth
radiant aurora
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In my opinion only 2 world class defenders of the last decade. 1 of them plays with Salah

flat moth
radiant aurora
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Don't come at me with Sergio Ramos lol

eager wasp
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You still think in terms of individuals. Current Brentford would eradicate any team from that era purely on proactive defending and intensity

neon forum
eager wasp
radiant aurora
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2000s Serie A was much superior than 2005 Ligue 1.

The quality of football was also more dispersed back then, while centralised now.

flat moth
radiant aurora
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Less good teams generally speaking. PSG beat a mediocre Villa and a bad Inter team

eager wasp
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All PL clubs are fairly rich

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less inequality compared to other leagues

radiant aurora
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The fact Villa are arguably a top 10 team in the world in 2026

neon forum
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and why shouldnt they be KloppThink

radiant aurora
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Because we're toothless. Alright defensively. Good coach and central midfield but that's it.

eager wasp
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Game didn't evolve much till Pep's revolution imo. Been a rollercoaster of dominating ideas since

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With each strategy becoming obsolete the next season

flat moth
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I wouldn’t credit pep solely for it

eager wasp
flat moth
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Germans also deserve a lot of the credit

eager wasp
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obviously before then

flat moth
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Aragones as well imo

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in general a combination of germans & spaniards

eager wasp
radiant aurora
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One thing I won't comment on is general coaching. Watching the game as a kid it wasn't really as aspect I understood at any meaningful level

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If people want to say its improved, I'm not going to argue that.

eager wasp
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There is definitely some objectivity there though

radiant aurora
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It would be interesting to see Pep at international level but I don't think it happens.

neon forum
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it doesnt

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unless england suddenly do some insane pull

eager wasp
neon forum
radiant aurora
eager wasp
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I don't think pep will carry his principles to NT football

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Would be very interesting yh

neon forum
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england have insane amount of talent sitting there for pep to utilize it
depends on how much they try to convince him

radiant aurora
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England wouldn't have a striker which is a problem

flat moth
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So I think it will before he retires

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Idk what team tho

neon forum
flat moth
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England seem the only realistic one to me as well

eager wasp
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A good CF will emerge by the time Kane is gone

neon forum
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probably not spain

eager wasp
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Highly doubt Spain

radiant aurora
flat moth
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As they like hiring foreign coaches & pep been there for far too long

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He is never coaching Spain lol

radiant aurora
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I legit can't even think of another England striker. Watkins, Delap, DLC are the next actual options?

flat moth
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Someone can come up

neon forum
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not taht hes great

flat moth
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I don’t think it will be a job before 2030’s for pep

neon forum
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peps gonna play a false 9 with foden who will win the golden boot and bring wc back home

flat moth
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I think he leaves city in 2027 then takes a break for 2-3 years

neon forum
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and win the ballon dor

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and will go down as the greatest english footballer ever

flat moth
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Then in 2030’s dive into internal coaching

neon forum
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simple script rlly

radiant aurora
flat moth
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No city player from pellegrini era is still there

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KDB was the last one

neon forum
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yh

flat moth
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All of the current squad is pep signings

neon forum
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this is foden according to gemini

flat moth
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By 2030

neon forum
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yh probs

flat moth
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I see them winning 2028 euros perhaps due to home advantage

cosmic bolt
flat moth
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2026 wc cant rule them out either

flat moth
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I wouldn’t rule them out for 2026 either
They are the 3rd best placed team according to me

neon forum
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spain and france?

flat moth
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Yes

neon forum
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same list

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argentina

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where

flat moth
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I have them 4th
But I don’t think they will win

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Too weak flank players now in comparison to 2022
Messi also not as good as he was in 2022

neon forum
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yuh

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spain imo

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or france

flat moth
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Portugal & Germany outside chance

neon forum
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france have a very good squad except for midfield

flat moth
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Brazil & Netherlands ig have a non zero chance
But I would be shocked if they do it

radiant aurora
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What's Spain back 5?

neon forum
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cucurella le normad huijsen joan garcia

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and

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um

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carvajal?

radiant aurora
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Yeah I can see a world where they don't win it.

neon forum
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rodri pedri fabian midfield most likely

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or like olmo

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or zubi

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idk their midfield kind of stacked

flat moth
neon forum
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have they upgraded their striker

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or is it still

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morata

radiant aurora
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Norway beating Brazil

flat moth
radiant aurora
flat moth
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Best team going into the tournament certainly
But them losing wont be a shock or anything

neon forum
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what is it

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allisson

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marquinhos

flat moth
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Brazil are horrid

neon forum
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joelinton guimaraes paqueta?

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surley not

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whos their creative outlet

flat moth
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Least hyped Brazilianteam in forever

neon forum
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vini rodrygo estevao

flat moth
neon forum
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forgot bim

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so vini raphinha

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depends on who plays as a 9

radiant aurora
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Richarlison most likely

flat moth
neon forum
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gabi jesus and richi 🥀

neon forum
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and rodrygo

flat moth
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200%

neon forum
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his sons

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brasil have attacking “depth” but they all mid af

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estevao savio martinelli

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gabi jesus

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do they deadass not have a creative midfielder

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oh

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nvm

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still ass

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lowkey should play savio as a 10

radiant aurora
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Maybe with someone like Cunha behind a striker.

neon forum
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hes good tbf

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i like him

radiant aurora
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I think it's Brazil v England QF assuming favourites win their groups

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Or is it Ro16. Somewhere around there.

neon forum
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hmm

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whos gonna be brazils lb

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militao might play rb

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danilo?

radiant aurora
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Ask the greatest content creators of today

sterile forge
neon forum
radiant aurora
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I can't think of a Brazilian left back beyond Alex Sandro

past fern
neon forum
radiant aurora
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But that looks more or less it. It's not great is it.

flat moth
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Imagine tho, its a knockout tournament so anything can happen😂

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Worst Brazilian side of the 21st century winning the world cup somehow will be so funny

strange prairie
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it would indeed

neon forum
neon forum
neon forum
flat moth
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I totally forgot the finalissima is happening in march

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Will be interesting to watch

strange prairie