The phantom has a lot recently.
#lore-discussion
knotty smelt
I want more on the black coat. I thought my story for him would have been cool.
My speculation on why he killed the uncle.
I am also speculating that we are playing a prequel loop of an upcoming campaign.
A campaign to kill the sculptor.
visual finch
i kinda search for it but i didn't found if someone already asked it:
In the Revenant bio is named a "night spirit" or something like that
what is that?
rotund ferry
He was brought back from the dead
Which basically means he has a huge red stain in his favorite shirt for the rest of his life
bronze roost
Carcass gave him pipe and he came back to life
rotund ferry
I don’t really like the revenant tbh
bronze roost
@devout cedar
visual finch
Yes, i guessed that. I was just curious about the "night spirit" thing
knotty smelt
The revenant is basically glowing for all enemies to see
rotund ferry
Imagine getting shot, being brought back, and then getting tapped again for good this time
knotty smelt
@rotund ferry judging by his mouth breathing expression I’m not sure if he even knows what the fuck is going on.
mossy fog
rotund ferry
@knotty smelt When he got shot all the blood left his brain drained and ended up on his shirt somehow
cinder latch
Is this why Lynch is considered a candidate for being "The Sculptor"?
winged minnow
It's possible but I thought that the sculptor wasn't a physical being?
cinder latch
I don't think there's any solid evidence for one way or the other tbh
I think they're intentionally leaving it open ended
winged minnow
That's probably what's going on, yeah
fervent pecan
Whats the possibility of getting more monsters? i saw a weapon description for a legendary that mentioned a tussle with an “otherworldy” snake, could we get that perhaps? that would be cool
winged minnow
I believe that snake was some sort of godly or otherworldly being so maybe not that one specifically but some sort of giant snake is possible
solar geode
devout cedar
not Grunts? 
shut latch
Where could I go to get started with learning the lore behind hunt? Are there any good youtubers? Or is it typically bound to in game reading?
devout cedar
This guy has only 2 videos so far, but its well made
Also check pinned messages here @shut latch
shut latch
Thank you @devout cedar
shut latch
It seems that the only enemies that were non-human before their mutation (Waterdevils and Hellhounds). Their mutations are mostly cited to have been from an interaction with the ritual blood of hunters, with hounds having been created, in part at least, by the Sculptor. With there being no mutated versions of the animals we see in game like crows, ducks and horses, would it be reasonable to believe that animals are immune or resistant to the plague?
crystal roost
ornate bramble
I think the animals are somehow somewhat “mutated”, just that we dont see it in-game.
If you fall into chicken cage or dog cage you would lose health rapidly, for example
winged minnow
Well you do take damage in a dog cage, just not a chicken one
Don't think the sculptor would have much reason to copy chickens, either
ornate bramble
I dont think he would spend much effort on copying things like zeds and crows and dogs
Those probably just died of dark powers influence naturally
And revived by it
winged minnow
I think that it doesn't have to copy basic grunts cause of those weird black worm things in their hearts that just make more of them like classic zombification? it says something about them in their monster log but not sure exactly about the weird things in their hearts
ornate bramble
The basic “source” of all mutation came from the rift, emitting dark power or whatever its called
Killing every ordinary human being in the swamps and shifting them
Some had special mutation that the sculptor would actually copy them and replicate
I dont even think it copied armored, since lore-wise armored grunts have multiple unconfirmed origins and it was stated that the Sculptor used them as the guard of rifts
rotund ferry
Do any of the legendary hunters have any lore?
warm lagoon
they do
rotund ferry
Besides what is said in game? Like any additional lore?
Sheriff Hardin has some additional stuff
Where can I find this lore?
warm lagoon
cinder latch
Child Labor Legendary Hunter when??
warm lagoon
make sure to check this channel's pinned messages too, there are some consolidated lore pieces gathered by the community
candid shoal
Wow, Hardin is one of my favorite Legendary Hunter skins. I had no idea he was so brutal. Yikes.
frail roost
Anyone else absolutely love the lore book entry for the first Nitro Express Mastery? I think it's gotta be my favorite that I've read so far
knotty smelt
Hardin has no spine. Check out his model in game lol
median zealot
What is the "hell" the hunters try to avoid? Some kinda sculptor dimension?
winged minnow
It's the dimension the sculptor comes from, yes
tidal laurel
marble kernel
@tidal laurel very deep
cinder latch
That's a question for QnA where the mods would see it, not lore. Lore isn't going to explain meta and balance changes.
rich swan
I'm pretty sure he means pitching crematorium, not pitcher the trait, making it more of a lore question
cinder latch
Yeah you're right, sorry I haven't had coffee yet fml
rich swan
No sweat, it happens to the best of us
digital olive
You didn't need to be clear lmao. It's pretty obvious you meant the crematorium. But what happened to it? The same thing that happened everywhere? Except it's a compound with a lot of dead bodies and gas.
finite hill
just unlocked the meathead mastery, are the diary entries implying meatheads are birthed by female hunters or is that an unrelated demon?
cinder latch
Yes, they're birthed by female hunters
It's implied almost as if they made a deal, like a trade of some sorts for strength that surpasses normal humans while the meathead is still in the womb
tepid citrus
Big chungus is actually big baby
cinder latch
But it devours the mother at birth
knotty smelt
How would it devour anything? It doesn’t have a face lol
cinder latch
Probably the leeches, or voring lul
finite hill
the entries seem to point to the demon blood that all hunters inject at initiation causing these pregnancies to go wrong
light solar
It didnt eather
it killed her during the birth
in the lore it was the size of a 7 year old
knotty smelt
Imagine a meathead but midget sized lol
cinder latch
It DID eat her.
It says in the lore page that it disembowled her as it was birthed, eating her on the way out.
And the mother was laughing the whole time.
Bottom paragraph
woeful acorn
How long ago (in-game time) did the event happen and kill all the people inside. Some of the houses look like they were lived in yesterday and still have fires burning (pitching crematorium, sweet bell flour). but other places look like they were vacated before a bombing run. Also the lanterns that you can turn on an off are still burning.
knotty smelt
@woeful acorn it’s an ongoing event. Some places like the fort were condemned before the event.
Like it’s recent as far as we are concerned.
The sculptor basically fucked everyone off.
rotund ferry
It would be interesting lore wise to see just how traits like necromancer and serpent come to manifest in hunters
Whether it develops with the serum or from exposure to infected zones
knotty smelt
Sea hare lol
rotund ferry
@rotund ferry
I agree, although if I had to take a stab at it I would say that those traits manifest themselves as the hunter is within the infection zone, because you use trait points to get it, which are gotten by being in no man’s land.
rotund ferry
True, that’s probably it
mellow cargo
there’s only one instance of a meathead I thought, as the sculptor just replicates individuals
hence why the hellhounds are bunny
and the hive is whatsit’s mom
rotund ferry
Then why does the hive have two dresses?
crystal goblet
There are two instances of the meathead, and two instances of the hive
mellow cargo
aaah ok
digital olive
What is the Sculptor? I've read all the lore but I don't really understand.
weak shell
otherworldly entity which trying to invade into our realm
something similar to H. P. Lovecraft ones
mellow cargo
yeah it's a bit, uh
wiggly fingers - no one really knows - wiggly fingers
buoyant nebula
In the scientific sense, it can best be described as "Cthulhu-Satan"
iron hazel
Think we'll see legendary hunters for John Voelkel and the twins?
knotty smelt
How about we give William durrant a story first?
winged minnow
Not very fleshed out, maybe because he will be revealed to have actually played a very important part in some larger plan?
warm lagoon
@crisp sundial Wrong channel
knotty smelt
@winged minnow yea like killing the uncle for vengeance cause he killed willys wife and stole his kids.
That’s a story.
exotic juniper
why is the game set in Louisiana out of everywhere?
low pagoda
well for one the bayou has always been a place of mysticism. Just look into hoodoo and voodoo. check the tier 3 hunters. most of them are carrying some kind hoodoo mojo bag, thats heavily originated from a culmination of west African beliefs cross with native american tradition and scoatch of christianity. its still heavily, if mostly just aesthetically noticeable in New Orleans and other Low Country Areas. We just get the added genre of eldritch horror with The Source
rotund ferry
dude got shot in the heart then won a quickplay match
winged minnow
Don't think he went to quickplay, he just straight up came back to life by following those voices
Hunters that go to quickplay are just trying to stave off the inevitable I think
Cause demon blood in your veins isn't really great for you
It's possible he didn't just become something like a grunt cause he has no heart where the weird bug things that turn people into grunts make their "nest"
atomic crow
👀
digital olive
I like the theory that immolators are hunters who succumbed. Since hunters all burn up in the end and immolators seem to walk around the same areas.
knotty smelt
So they say he’s the first to hear the call right? I think he wanted to be a hero so bad but turned out he failed. He saw this as a second chance and took the route less taken.
weak shell
I like the theory that immolators are hunters who succumbed. Since hunters all burn up in the end and immolators seem to walk around the same areas.
Also fact that there are no immolators in QP
nocturne wharf
Ahm, I don't think that's correct. I may not remember right but I think there are immo in QP
regal lintel
There are immolators in QP for sure, just rare
runic slate
The first immolator wasn't a hunter it was just some church boy, than the sculptor copies his mutation and pastes it like all the monsters except grunts im pretty sure.
bold tiger
A priest I believe
atomic crow
Who is or what is "The Night Speaker" ?
polar fable
You are talking about Isaac Powell who is a Night Seer, but it’s unknown who the Night Speaker is. He might be the member of the cult, or might not
amber harbor
its implied from the name they're the same faction
knotty smelt
So it’s an understood that their is no good guy hunters. Maybe the reverend.
Maybe the revenant because he came back for redemption I thought.
rancid parrot
fun fact: Every imolator you see in your game, is a roughly number of the total numbers of hunters burned in the last 5 games. When you get those 3 imolators in a same compund? .. ther ehas been a massacre in last games.
amber harbor
thats not true
queen girder
I wonder if we'll ever get a gambler or outlaw looking character with that han solo feel
languid prism
So like the revenant
knotty smelt
Revenant looks like he’s confused as hell and forgot how to breath through his nose.
What are the tattoos meaning on black coats hand?
rotund ferry
Wait wait
So the meatheads
Are they a single being that has multiple leeches sorta like the hive and her hive mind crap
Or is the meathead actually the leeches themselves
rotund ferry
who again
worldly arrow
Hold on this guy
rotund ferry
Fuck he has a nice chin
worldly arrow
Mhm he's the character I main but im actually interested in learning what he's about
rotund ferry
I like Redshirt
rotund ferry
im a proud redshirt pistol only main
dusty badge
I once made it to rank 49 with a hunter while using only a Caldwell conversion standard nothing else
How’s that?
polar fable
@worldly arrow his name’s Isaac Powell and he’s the leader of the cult called Night of the hunter. You can read more on those guys in the book of weapons
rotund ferry
I made it to rank 49 with random queue only
worldly arrow
Iv read his bio but it doesn't feel enough
Sweet thanks @polar fable any weapons you'd recommend I read up on
polar fable
All of them!
worldly arrow
Thanke
ruby thistle
So what are the current lore pages on the preacher. I'm curious about his faction and wanted to learn more about them.
ruby thistle
@worldly arrow nadia orvilles lore from the "Martine Henry" Pages are a good read.
They give you an idea of who the second-in command of the Night of The Hunters cult is.
Also, in the end, you get to see a pretty narly side of isaac
knotty smelt
We need someone to write more lore.
amber harbor
isaac saw the apocalypse in the blood of the butcher creatures of the bayou and started the cult. they believe the creatures are holy
fair sinew
Serious chat is arguing too much to ask a question so here I am. Maybe it’s lore related.
Some compounds have spawn-able objects when a certain boss is there. I did not know this until the other day. Does anyone have a list or know where some of these objects are? The only one I know of is a husk growth on the side of a shack near a spawn point south of fish when the assassin is there.
amber harbor
there is no list afaik
worldly arrow
A pigs head on the bodies at windy rum and on the gate of golden acres
rotund ferry
a pig's head on the top gates of a lot of places indicate the butcher is there
the gates that lead into the entrance of the place
fair sinew
@rotund ferry @worldly arrow Nice, thanks, this is a feature I thought was pretty interesting and not talked about much. I’m sure there’s more.
rotund ferry
yeah and iirc in hemlock on one of the hanging bodies
a pig's head is there
or maybe it
or maybe it's not hemlock
dusty badge
Yes this is lore
lyric arrow
Yeah he just spammed it in 6+ channels... Best way to annoy many people and not get feedback heard
rotund ferry
Is there a lore to getting a prestige? It seems like something there would be some super interesting lore to
amber harbor
no official explanation, but there was a theory a while back about bloodlines being chapters of the aha, and you being entrusted with more high end weapons as you progress. then, prestiging would be you starting another chapter?
remember it is just a theory
knotty smelt
Wouldn’t make sense since the incident is in the same era all the time.
tepid citrus
Isn't the Louisiana incident separate from the current time period? I always pictured big Louisiana event happened and hunters start hunting ever since.
woven forge
There are different incidences over the course of time
Its conceivable there were instances in medieval eras for example
candid shoal
Imagine how cool that would be, fighting monsters and, if the Hunters of the time were anything like the ones in the game, each other, but using swords, bows and crossbows instead of guns.
little glacier
Somebody can exaplin why devs removed from the game "Louisiana Event" book?
amber harbor
Ui "flow"
When they changed the ui for 1.0 they removed it because it didnt fit within any format or submenu
little glacier
That's sad =C
little glacier
Am I right understand what this game have some "time travel" episodes? Because this part of newspaper doesn't look like from 19 century. It looks like this book from our time (or 1977). Maybe this is the reason why we have DeLorean in the game and "hip hop" on this page.
https://huntzone.varshevsky.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Hunt-Showdown-o.jpg
warm lagoon
@little glacier That's the year of publication
This might explain the "1977" written on the article
amber harbor
thats just an easteregg
theres more at arden and lawson
but all the documents we have have been compiled in the present day after the event ended
knotty smelt
So the lore in this game has a good foundation but man is it ridiculous. I’m not a real fan of the twins story. I really wish the Devs would allow someone to write short story’s and solidify it as canon.
amber harbor
Same really
They have a way out bc its a dime novel
In a way all they do now is write short stories
Sadly they cant reveal too much lest the mystery be ruined, and they already gave us the basics
That or we should be doing more research work and their genius storytelling is going over our heads
fervent pecan
they should make a book about the lore in the gane
i always like reading the entries, they are well written
slim hatch
Old Lore or New Lore?
Just to get them even more confused even if my words are an absolute truth.
empty aurora
@fervent pecan I am actually writing myself. But only based on the actual Hunt scenraio
buoyant nebula
The twins are maybe canon. We know Lynch is a real person, but we don't know if she's a creepy bird witch like in the Twins story. Honestly, all we know for sure right now is evil spirit/demon from Hell/Ry'leth/Arkansas is making monsters, and a bunch of hunters are getting paid to kill them
digital olive
Why would some of the mastery unlocks not be canon?
buoyant nebula
Well because they're technically just manuscripts for a dime novel
Presumably written by someone who saw some shit in the swamp and heard some stuff, but if the writers wanna ignore it, it's not locked in place
fiery forge
^^^ What weapons are examples of the fraudulent manuscripts?
bold tiger
@fiery forge
What do you mean?
The titles of most of the lore indicate where they come from, usually in italics
A old leather bound journal or some sucj
amber harbor
The only discrepency in lore entries is the death of Huff. The papers say he was shot, and bad as they seem states lynch stabbed him in the throat
Other than that bad as they seem is a big part of the lore since it involves the most voodoo, but its also a dime novel where its almost certain some parts were changed
B. A. T. S. seems like one of the more fleshed out story arcs in the lorebook, and its based on Lynch and tge twins, who are something of a legend
And so with legends being legends theres no way of knowing what actually happened
@fiery forge
oak nymph
What’s the summary of Huff? I’m having trouble kinda puzzling his stuff out
amber harbor
he is based on the son of the real louisiana asylum superintendent
in huntverse he still runs the hospital and uses it to deal with the paranormal, since the patients are crazy and nobody would believe them
he is was the head of the AHA(american hunters associations), before being murdered
after his death the hunting grounds descended into the shitshow we see in game, with multiple factions now murdering each other over bounties
he supplied some weapons to the aha, since we have his correspondence with Caldwell
there's a beginners guide along with some more docs in the pinned comments, and if you have more questions feel free to ask
oak nymph
Oh, that’s really helpful, I had no idea. I was real off on him.
What about Salter? Was he just kinda nuts?
amber harbor
basically yeah
he is slipping in and out of consciousness
he hates his family since they put him in the asylum, bit a doctor and ran away with his files
now he lives out in the bayou
buoyant nebula
He makes wonderful pork though
amber harbor
i dont think they're related
him and salters pork i mean
i just skimmed his diary, seems his father was a doctor or smth
polar fable
He also had a brother who came to the bayou too late
oak nymph
That makes sense with what I read, thanks! Any of the legendaries associated with him besides the Lemon Kit?
polar fable
Yea, the legendary crown and king, brother’s keeper which belonged to the brother of William salter, also swamp peach which is Caldwell handcannon and throwing knives which I forget the name of but you can find it in the description
zealous blade
So in lore discussion hardcore it was mentioned that it wasn’t specific to Louisiana. Did outbreaks happen in other locations?
marble kernel
@zealous blade yes, but the one in Louisiana is kinda special. Atleast thats what i read somewhere in lore-discussion.
amber harbor
Events like this have been happening for ages, and they each have different magnitudes
This one isnt the largest or the harshest, but it is special in some way
I think it was because theres more than one entity involved
The devs said they would only explore Louisiana in this game, so no russia, desert or whatever else maps are coming
zealous blade
So there’s more than just the sculptor at play here?
buoyant nebula
Maybe. Either that, or the uniqueness could be that fighting the infection only makes it stronger
zealous blade
I just did some more reading. It seems like there’s multiple entities the hunting group has called “sculptors” operating, and that multiple is a rare occurrence
If I’m incorrect tho, someone please correct me
runic slate
its like one entity right
buoyant nebula
I think there's just one, "The Sculpture" who's making all this, and the monsters are eminations of it's power
runic slate
the sculptor
so basically the inhabitants are like mutated
and most become grunts but theres been like
different mutations
that the sculptor duplicates
ie the immolators and hives and stuff
buoyant nebula
Yep
runic slate
i think its something different with bosses
like he takes their souls and has them come back
buoyant nebula
Bosses are created by the sculpture and used as "vessels"
runic slate
like how the spider was a little girl and than was doctor reed
also the spider is a baby
there is a bigger spider making mini spiders
buoyant nebula
It doesn't exist on the mortal plane, so it uses bosses kinda like little fingers in our world
runic slate
so
aha
didn't one woman like
see or feel the presence of the sculptor
during the meathead ordeal
but like the Assassin's name is vincent. its like his later ego
buoyant nebula
Yeah, I think it's presence is felt when a unique mutation is creation
runic slate
so the reporter had a run in with the assassin
and than after the bar
his friend got turned into one too
buoyant nebula
All monsters started as regular people or things, bosses included, but the Sculptor made them into monsters, then copied the form afterwards
runic slate
i like to think the sculptor is kinda a self insert of crytek itself
creating new monsters... making them spawn in games
buoyant nebula
Seems more like a demon/monster representative of the intersection of western christianity and native voodoo beliefs to me
runic slate
yeah but it does everything crytek does
to the game
like functionality wise
crytek is the sculptor
buoyant nebula
I mean, you could say that for any villain that makes enemies for you to fight
Sculptor kinda lacks meta meaning from what I've seen, at least with regards to being an author-metaphor
runic slate
yeah
i'd assume its something like the dreamheads in skyrim
which all i know about skyrim is what my brother explained to me
but yeah wouldn't people be like
some people*
be like worshiping the bayou stuff
as like a garden of eden
buoyant nebula
We know the Night Doctor's cult believes the monsters to be holy, and decorates themselves with their blood
Anyone who just goes in there to worship them without a shotgun though, probably got eaten real quick
zealous blade
Oh theres cults to the monsters?
are they aware of the Sculptor, and do they see it as some sort of higher being?
or do they just worship its creations?
buoyant nebula
The Night Doctor's beliefs are never elaborated on, but it appears most see it as divine punishment of some sort
zealous blade
do they seek to aid the sculptors?
nocturne wharf
Does god give aid? If I remember right in the bible the only aid provided was from Jesus. It's a god. For all intents and purposes, it classifies as a god. Of course it's hand chiselled idols would have been worship.
My fear is that the work that the hunters do is not stopping the expanse, but in fact worsening it. We don't close rifts, we open them, or gather them, what if that in itself is giving the Sculpter more power?
winged minnow
In quickplay you close rifts but the clues you open, seen a necessary to find the bounty targets I believe
Although one theory I've seen says banishing the bosses is helping the sculptor
I'm wondering if the Halloween event will bring lore with it because the post mentions something about the veil between worlds thinning, but maybe that's just for flavor
amber harbor
My fear is that the work that the hunters do is not stopping the expanse, but in fact worsening it. We don't close rifts, we open them, or gather them, what if that in itself is giving the Sculpter more power?
@nocturne wharf thats actually whats happening
also the spider is a baby
@runic slate not true. Dr Reed and his party were stranded in the bayou and he went nuts. Killed all his party members and made a mass grave. With or without him knowing, he created the spider
it is 13 people morphed together
glacial schooner
is there a youtube channel that maybe explains what's going on
or maybe just reads the entries
I like audiobooks lol
winged minnow
@glacial schooner There's this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaon3Yruno0&ab_channel=Falator although only the spider's lore, you could probably find other videos though
leaden cradle
is there one place that has soemwhere i can read on alll the lore ?
amber harbor
pinned messages
glacial schooner
is there any kind of sequel post to this
raven bane
I have a theory that Hunters are just on hallucinogenic drugs, and are just imagining all the monsters, but are really just blasting away innocent people in 1895 Louisiana
buoyant nebula
So it's just regular louisiana?
old helm
What the evidence that supports that?
raven bane
no evidence, its just a theory
marble kernel
@raven bane i like the theory. 🤔 😋
winged minnow
Kind of hard to back that theory given all the evidence there is of something actually happening in the bayou, like from the files you can find in-game
buoyant nebula
Turns out the Sculpture is real, however the drugged out hunters started their thing before he had time to start, and honestly, they're doing a better job destroying the area than he ever could
nocturne wharf
here's a better option: Since it's pretty much confirmed that the Sculpter is a bug god, and that his reach is... deep... due to how of some of the reports of the hive creations comes to mind, we can actually speculate that he is indeed altering human perception. EX: Ada Ruth description in the Monstrorvm.
amber harbor
I was trolling earlier but that seems like a good point
maybe all the events manifest only in the mental realm, so they are both real and fake
could be that the link between worlds is weakened and so hunters see that realm
something like seeing the physical manifestations of peoples inner demons caused by the sculptor
so looking from the outside all hunters would be crazy going on genocide sprees
buoyant nebula
Actually the Spider and Assassin lore tabs talk about that. The Sculptor doesn't create bug monsters because it is a bug, it does it because humans are afraid of them.
winged minnow
That's why the sculptor is bug themed with blades coming out of it's wrists
Specifically made to kill hunters
and just general humans I suppose
wild veldt
Has anyone realized that theirs a reference to supernatural on the cordwainer legendary officer carbine
buoyant nebula
That's the Assassin, not the Sculptor
winged minnow
Could the demon blood in the hunters' veins explain their unnatural resistance to bullets?
amber harbor
reviving and game-y health was put down to it being a video game i think
wicked escarp
There any cheeky hints on to what the next bounty may be? ¿
amber harbor
not really
there was that voice in the fan trailer trailer saying I'm waiting but idk if that has something to do with the boss
primal goblet
I want something thats an absolute horror to look at
exotic owl
we cant put you in the game sadly
amber onyx
is the winfield vandal lore bugged?
it repets with the striker and normal bandal
digital olive
I'm hoping they're keeping with the tradition of a status theme. We have poison, fire, and bleeding. Choke and blinding are next.
rotund ferry
has the AHA ever decided to just quarantine the area and discontinue the hunters because clearly they aren't exactly helping
winged minnow
I believe they actually get something from the bounty but what it is we don't know, and the AHA has never really been very coordinated especially since Huff died so it would be down to the groups in the bayou to organize it themselves
And I believe that killing the bounty targets is doing something like at least stalling the sculptor and slowing its spreading control, but mirror theory states that killing the bounty targets is helping the sculptor
rotund ferry
I think it would help the sculptor
because the bosses are going back to his realm
therefore he can reuse them again
winged minnow
Basically, yes, but they get something from the bounty tokens so they keep killing them
rotund ferry
Also cameras exist
Like as in just take a photo of the dead boss or sthmn and dont banish it
or take a trophy from the boss
do ANYTHING but banish it
winged minnow
You need to banish for the tokens though
And the tokens are the special thing they need
winged minnow
Pretty sure it's still true lore wise though, they get something from the tokens
rotund ferry
Can't hunters be peaceful in lore?
winged minnow
Yes
I'm lost here hold on 
Are you saying hunters just go in, kill the boss, get some evidence other than a banish, then get out without killing each other?
rotund ferry
yeah that's what I'm thinking they should've been doing in the lore
winged minnow
Yeah I could see that, maybe the AHA just wants the tokens and not have to recover it themselves or something, and hunters are just greedy so kill each other for them
little oriole
They most likely have a large bounty on the tokens, hence bounty hunt, and the different hunter each want the bounty, thus they fight for the tokens
rotund ferry
You wanna know something funny
little oriole
Not really
rotund ferry
anyways, the legendary hunters are probably rolling in money because of the big reward on the tokens
lol
little oriole
Harden probably bought his brass flower with the bounty money
winged minnow
Something I find weird is that some legendary hunters don't have hints to a great past like how the redneck just was so dumb he survived the sculptor's influence for a while
winged minnow
Black Coat ded 
little oriole
Legendary hunters get famous for either surviving or killing a bunch of people lmao
rotund ferry
revenant probably sleeps in his coffin
winged minnow
Yeah probably true
little oriole
Like reverend
rotund ferry
also imagine the looks he must get in the grocery store or something
little oriole
He killed his congregation and then survived the horde
rotund ferry
He did that at arden right
little oriole
Yea i think
I know he killed the fuck out of his entire church then killed all the grunts outside
little oriole
Wonder how many people have been killed by the phantom
rotund ferry
the phantom is just odd
rotund ferry
Id imagine he'd spend his bounty money on fancy suits and typewriters
little oriole
Same
rotund ferry
he is a lawyer after all
little oriole
That or supressors
rotund ferry
Redneck just doesn't know how to spend money or what money is
little oriole
You think hes just killing off criminals lmao? No more cases for him to work
Rednecks a dumb fuck who somehow just survived somehow
somehow
How the hell does he of all people live 
winged minnow
He was so dumb the sculptor couldn't do anything to him
his description Says either his Sheer stubbornness or sheer stupidity is what saved him
little oriole
Sculptor like ' aight, fuck you' and leaves
The rest of the legendary bois are just mass murderers
rotund ferry
He took one look at redneck's brain, said how in the shitdick does this dude even, and just left
shouldn't have possessed louisiana
little oriole
Didnt even bother with him, thinking he'll 100% die due to be as thick as shit
little oriole
He gets money on the side from his nip slips
little oriole
100%
Wonder how much time and money he has to spent to buy and apply his make up
And how old is he lmao?
rotund ferry
Like 17 probably
little oriole
Lmao
rotund ferry
its 1895 louisiana
little oriole
Posh boi goes to swamps and gets shot
rotund ferry
Black coat spent his money on new black coats
that one must get really smelly after a while
that or on reddit premium
little oriole
Black coat must get shot alot with how thick his coat is, it must make so much noise
winged minnow
Bet the mountain man spends it on the bear hat
little oriole
New boots
rotund ferry
He has to keep replacing it based on how many times it gets shot off his head
little oriole
Mountain man gotta get his new timbs
rotund ferry
Watch him just give up after a while
Just like after 30 games you just have mountain man with no more bear hat
winged minnow
Imagine you could see the bullet holes in mountain man's bear
swiss cheese is what that bear would turn into
little oriole
Harden spends all his money on new suits and hats 100%
rotund ferry
Redneck makes money from OnlyFans
little oriole
Night acolyte spends hers on shit makeup and trench coats
little oriole
Lmao true
rotund ferry
Hmmm who else is there
rotund ferry
Carcass gunrunner spends his bounty money on gym memberships
and power shakes
Billy Story probably goes on massive spending sprees on nothing in particular
winged minnow
That bling'in derringer wasn't cheap
rotund ferry
I think that's black coat's derringer
If I have an idea of what you're talking about
winged minnow
Storied past is billy's 
rotund ferry
Oh, in the desc it says that infamous fur coat
And black coat is infamous and has a fur coat
you know what he's probably just pissed because he's hot as fuck
winged minnow
You can see billy wielding it in the twitch drops trailer, but I see where you're coming from
rotund ferry
But black coat seems the type to pack a shotgun under there
rotund ferry
all 4 barrels simultaneously
16 bullets of 22 caliber at once
Can you still unlock Billy?
winged minnow
Not until the next twitch drops if they have him available I believe
winged minnow
Just link some accounts or something I'm not entirely sure
And you have to watch streamers not stream if that's what you mean
rotund ferry
Ah okay
polar fable
@rotund ferry twitch drops was an event a few months ago, now you can’t get any of the skins from back then, but it might come again in the future
crimson skiff
What’s in the carcass gunrunners hat? Snuff tin?
serene ice
derringer
little oriole
In the mosin bayonet lore theres talk of a heart swelling to the size of wagon and gaining teeth, sounds like a good idea for a boss or a enemy perhaps?
It also stated it had tendrils so it would be like a squid with the mouth seemingly at the top rather than the bottom
still narwhal
there is a bug , u can't buy the new legendary skins once u have got it
last snow
yeah, I unlocked the heavy knife skin and after I used it and died, I couldn't buy a new one.
peak coyote
Do you have the heavy knife unlocked?
Otherwise, no you can't buy more skins unless the base weapon is unlocked. You get 1 buying the skin
Or unlocking a skin
Like if you usually use dusters, you may not have the heavy knife unlocked
Just a thought
I haven't had any issues with skins unless the weapon in game isn't unlocked
exotic owl
They are bugged currently so no one can buy more
round prism
Anyone have actual book of weapons? I have this one from pinned messages, but it not contains the new weapons that was added later as Spriengfield, etc.
buoyant nebula
Did the AHA offer retirement bonuses? Or did they assume that it wouldn't be used enough to warrant one
amber harbor
i think not having to fight monsters is its own reward
but i see the aha kind of like a mafia, giving rewards to its most valued only
rotund ferry
I always thought retirement was more of a curse
Because now the hunter has to go out in the world suffering the effects of demon blood
And maybe progressively goes insane
And becomes a danger to him/herself and others
amber harbor
i think they just leave the retirees alone
if they go crazy, they become the village crazy guy who nobody speaks to
if they go on massive killing spree, its the sheriff who has to worry about it
rotund ferry
Well yeah
That and they’re sterile for life
Which sucks balls
...
I’ll see myself out
errant cypress
DUTCH
nocturne wharf
It would be so much better to have what BB has for "retirement"
Because it does not make sense what to let the hunters go. They are horrible creatures that border on the mass genocidal
They cannot possibly be left alone
Plus the fact that, what ever the lore may be on why the hunters take so much more to be put down
They are still stronger than normal men
One "madman" villager that no one talks to is good, only because he isn't strong enough to be a threat.... Hunters.... Are...
A very deadly threat...
amber harbor
even then, as far as covering their tracks goes, the aha couldnt be discovered by the testimony of a psycho
but i agree, them banking on ppl ignoring hunters bc the situation is too far fetched is kinda careless and doesnt fit
and since we have little info on retirement process, its anyones guess
if i remember correctly, retiring was confirmed to not be an euphemism for execution
but thats about it
polar fable
Was looking through the book of monsters and noticed that grunts are in a section called infected while immolators, hives, armoreds and meatheads are in a marked section
That seemed interesting to me
rotund ferry
@nocturne wharf who’s BB?
nocturne wharf
BloodBourne... Gherman the First Hunter, the one that helps end your nightmare. Setting you free...
rotund ferry
Is that someone in lore or...?
amber harbor
from the game bloodborne i guess
raven horizon
Gherman the First Hunter
Interesting connection
amber harbor
can someone tell me the lore on him? i dont know bb lore at all
raven horizon
actually - better lore here: https://bloodborne.fandom.com/wiki/Gehrman,_the_First_Hunter_(Character)
I honestly never even thought to connect those hunters with these hunters.
buoyant nebula
I think the connections begin and end with the name
sharp harness
So Dr. Reed was the first spider? And the spider documented in the monster book is another one?
winged minnow
No, all of the spiders are one copied spider and I don't think Dr. Reed ever became it, let me check though
Yeah, Reed wasn't the spider
sharp harness
Then what happened to him in the trails of dr reed post? It sounds like he was consuming his group
Or maybe I'm misinterpreting
winged minnow
Well, the confusing thing is that two different lore documents in the pinned posts are conflicting
One says he turned himself and his party into the spider, the other says he didn't become the spider
little oriole
Mabye he consumed them by actually forming the group as one with himself into the spider
Could be consuming in that way
winged minnow
I think what happened was he went crazy, killed his group, then bundled them into a mass grave knowingly or unknowingly creating the spider
winged minnow
Ok, I think, based off recent posts that are only about 5 months old Reed DID become the spider
little oriole
So he absorbed his group Im guessing
winged minnow
Probably, there was that boy with them too
It's theorized that was the sculptor or that the boy was possessed by him or something similar
little oriole
Probably possessed
sharp harness
I mean that is the spider that is documented
but reed could've been different
maybe the first
wintry panther
Yeah the journals in game hunt at things but you have to put it all together. And the grunts have those worms in their blood controlling them. They even still have their consciousness often
wintry panther
Yeah those originated by eating their way out of a hunters stomach. Hunters blood corrupts living things and is the reason behind many of the unique monsters
rotund ferry
Why are the hunters different from regular people
Like why do they have the ability to use dark sight
wintry panther
They go through a ritual that changes them. And their blood becomes different from humans. That’s how they can heal and stuff. And allows them to use dark sight exactly. The specifics aren’t told but it’s hinted in many parts of the lorr
Some say they have to sacrifice a person in the ritual some say they have to do something else. We don’t know for sure
rotund ferry
That’s awesome
rotund ferry
I never knew anything about the lore
I’m usually a lore fanatic in other series but I never understood hunt
wintry panther
If you are interested there is a beginners guide to lore in the pinned section that I wrote
rotund ferry
Hunt is so crazy
wintry panther
Check it out to get into the baseline stuff and see if it’s your cup of tea. It’s super gritty and Lovecraftian
rotund ferry
I love Lovecraft
wintry panther
Then you’ll love this
rotund ferry
Does the lore ever tell about if the horrors spread around the world or only Louisiana
wintry panther
If you don’t want to unlock all the pieces of the lore we have it all organized in the pinned tabs. Yup, there are either instances of this happening but Louisiana is a turning point. Good example are the legendary hunters from around the world
wintry panther
Yup! The Hunt wiki also has it under each weapon
rotund ferry
Is The Revenant character infected by the worms as well?
wintry panther
Well he is a unique character who still has willpower
wintry panther
Yup those were part of a QNA the devs did
rotund ferry
Ah
wintry panther
Note some things may have changed since they talked about it
wintry panther
The devs wrote the lore to all be from unreliable narrators and from their own opinions. So newspapers versus journals will have different views
I know right?
rotund ferry
Ah so it’s from the different perspectives of characters in the world?
wintry panther
Yup all gathered in the book of weapons and monsters
rotund ferry
Imagine this they add a boss that gives dark sight more of a hunting mechanic like a phantom or ghost type boss that would need to be seen in dark sight but can’t be seen by the naked eye
Because dark sight is like a dimension of hell
wintry panther
That’s awesome yeah there is ton of potential for new bosses in this world
rotund ferry
It could be like a demonic figure haunting a house or factory
And so it balanced you could see like vibrations of air kinda like the choke bomb gives off is like the trail he leaves behind
So he’s not completely invisible
amber harbor
they DID say a new boss is coming this year or q1 next year
ancient shadow
New boss and custom ammo before Christmas with the new map due around Q2 next year.
amber harbor
yee haw
rotund ferry
quiet island
I think the Only Gun able to use these is the Specter
Imagina a C&K with Range above 20m? dang
rotund ferry
A C&K DMR would be nothing short of a horror movie
rotund ferry
There might be lower entities from the Sculptor
Sculptor is probably the main thing
rotund ferry
Also why does the sculptor like Louisiana so much
Is it just because Louisiana is spoopy sometimes
When it’s really not
winged minnow
I think there's supposed to be some sort of innate magic or something in the bayou, that's how something like the immolator was "made" since the sculptor just copies
And there have been multiple entities involved in previous events I believe
rotund ferry
Yea I believe that it’s not only Louisiana that this has happened to
There’s references to other events
sharp harness
Has anyone decrypted what the skins say in voynich?
amber harbor
they use different cyphers, but i've decrypted some of them
most of them are just normal stuff
the swamp peach is a poem
the rest are just random letters as far as i can tell
jagged tide
@runic slate several other "large" supernatural enitys beside the sculptor are mentioned in the lore (mostly in "bad as they seem"). We usually refer to them as "Loa", since the Voodoo-term seems to describe them best. For example the Snake, that guided the Twins, Lynch, and the "lord of the dead". The Louvent dosent seem to start with the sculptor, but with a rift, gate or portal in the swamps through which the sculptor came to our world. But he is not the only one that came...
jagged tide
Btw: apart from the text, boss-skins and pumpkins - did anybody find some lore related stuff during the event? Some new easter-eggs or anything like this?
graceful cosmos
In the event description, which is very tongue and cheek so take it with a large grain of salt lore wise, it says the AHA celebrate Halloween and play jokes on each other.
mild mantle
glad dawn
ashen hinge
Guys, can someone clarify something to me, someone at ideas said that in Quickplay you're playing with an already deceased hunter, and that quickplay happens in hell, is this true? The way I see all hunters are somehow damned thanks to the innitiation ritual or something like that and QP shows some live hunters trying to save themselves after word of the wellspring powers to redeem ones soul, but all of them are still alive and fighting on the Bayou.
amber harbor
@ashen hinge you are correct. qp hunters are alive. Ds has a cost for using it, thats why t3 hunters have blackened hands.
they need the wellspring to not die
lean sentinel
Is it just me or do the windfield vandal variants all have the same journal bit?
rich swan
Last I looked, deadeye was a different page, but the new striker has the same one as the normal vandal
lean sentinel
I see, thanks
marble kernel
Maybe a placeholder
ashen hinge
@amber harbor Thanks mate, thats what I thought
whole mesa
The event is an illusion, the hunters are suffering from worms. Wormseed is the cure to continue hunting before infection.
^just a thought
regal trout
Well I thought the description is that it increases their link to the magical source?
winged minnow
Well, the event's description says that the pumpkins are "strange hallucinations and visions" or at least something is
bold tiger
And the boundary between worlds being weakened or something
bold tundra
i have a new idea you remember a while back when the devs said that the immolator's are evolving. do it mean we are getting a new boss if you go to library at the top left under settings then go to the monstrorvm you see all the ai npcs' and bosses if you read spider and assassin. they seem normal read the butcher they say its resembling a meathead. so if you think about it. technically he evolved from a meat head. so there for if the immolator's are evolving meaning there might be a new boss or something along the lines of that.
amber harbor
when did they say that?
i only remember them saying armored were evolving, and thats because they can open doors now
idk if it was the same update and they meant the same with immolators
and idk if you could say the butcher is an 'evolved' meathead anymore, that was early access lore. Now the butcher is a taxidermied meathead
winged minnow
There was a coating on the butcher that gave it the fire hook/attacks that was supposed to preserve it I believe and the reason it doesn't take fire damage is cause of the big apron it has I think
amber harbor
thats still old lore
winged minnow
What is the reason for the fire now then?
amber harbor
he was originally a sentient meathead who secreted skin oil akin to ducks that made his hook flammable
thats why he used to rub the hook off his apron to light it when he got to half health
rn its because the guy who built him was really good at making fireproof stuff
his creations were the only things to survive a town fire, caused by him i think
winged minnow
About when did they change up the lore/how far back can I go before the lore I read is outdated?
I don't know how much I read is true now 
amber harbor
book of monsters and weapons are canon
winged minnow
So basically just stuff before 1.0 or other stuff is incorrect?
amber harbor
i think this old stuff was mainly devs talking in this chat, since back then i think they were more active with the comunity and they didnt really have smth like the books
the only thing they had was the scrapbook, but the original writers were laid off and since then the direction changed
so stuff before 1.0 isnt canon i think
so that includes the early qna as well
but where did you read about the butcher stuff?
winged minnow
It was either somewhere in this channel or the monster book maybe? not sure
bold tundra
@amber harbor https://twitter.com/huntshowdown/status/1317495859802722304 they tweeted it it was a pic of the imulator "swiming" it was a joke at the time but since the read the book i think a new boss is coming
this is what i mean when i say he technically evolved
amber harbor
its literally the husk of a meathead filled with clay
i dont think you can really call it 'evolution'
here the researcher is referring to the body shape, which is indeed that of a meathead
bold tundra
yeah ik but what if some one else or maybe the same guy made a boss from the imulators
filling him with sand or other stuff
and when he spits it out shards of glass would come flying out cutting you and stoping you from healing kinda like poison does
amber harbor
we already have a boss for every status effect
if they follow with that, next boss is either a new effect or a combination, as you said
gilded owl
Hello. As we already have November and the year is coming to an end, will there really be a new boss this year? I read that it should be Q4 2020. I've been playing the game from the beginning and whenever there was supposed to be a new boss, there were always some sketches. Or do they want to surprise us?
amber harbor
wdym?
i'm guessing they will add the new boss just before the holidays, maybe with the winter update
the assassin was teased a week before he was released on social media
they usually post a trailer on yt before the dev twitch stream
gilded owl
I'm terribly curious what they'll come up with.
modest oasis
Hey, do we know who Russell Chambers is?
I was looking at the Rattlesnake and was curious about them
polar fable
You can read all about him in the nagant entries in the book of weapons
crystal agate
@modest oasis From what I read, seemed to be a guy that was hopeless from a poorly treated wound that started festering, and becoming septic, he then played a game of Russian roulette with a rattlesnake he caught a few days prior in hopes to kill himself to end the pain, but the snake ended up taking the bullet when it was "it's turn", and the next day the pain from the wound subsided.
I'm under the impression the rattlesnake skin was his Nagant precision deadeye, which he wrapped with the skin of the dead rattlesnake that he skinned after, in a way, it saved his life
for who he is, seemed to be a convict that ended up working with sheriff Hardin for a "deal" to get out of prison after getting caught playing dice
rotund ferry
Is the butcher bigger than the meathead?
crystal agate
They are pretty similar other then the sticks and metal protruding from it, and of course the pig head. Otherwise I think they are about the same size
crystal agate
I don't believe so, cause the Revenants name was John Robertson
rotund ferry
Mfw the free hunters have less generic names
crystal agate
I got a hunter name of someone I went to school with and have known since I was a kid
rotund ferry
They should use the hunter name generator to come up with the legendary hunter names from now on
I once got a hunter named Nicholas cage
boreal ravine
So.... has anyone else noticed that black coats fingers aren’t his on the right hand ?
boreal ravine
It may just be a graphical glitch but the skins different there on his fingers
bold tundra
we already have a boss for every status effect
@amber harbor spider is poison and so are the hives
assassin is bleading and so are the hellhounds
butcher is fire. and so are emulators
all of those npc's have boss counterparst expect armords
sure you can say that the assassin's skin and layer looks like the armords but the hives dont look anything like the spider nor do they have spider silk on them. and imulators dont have a pig head or anything of that sort.
and if you want to count water devils we dont have any water based or located boss
amber harbor
first off, a water boss would require half-flooding each compound as set dressing, which although it sounds cool, would be a pain to play and implement
then, the bosses need to present a unique gameplay challenge to justify their existance, so each one has a different status effect and different AI
since the assassin is more similar to the spider, i think the next boss will be more confrontational, like the butcher
and armoreds dont really have a status effect associated with them, so next boss will deal just normal damage?
seems fitting in a way
and immolators/hives were created independently of the bosses, so it wouldnt make sense to have pig heads on immolators or silk on hives
polar fable
@amber harbor I found something in the game files which supports your assumption about new boss being confrontational, not going to spoil anything for anyone tho
nocturne wharf
Where exactly is it specified that the Immolators were forged by the Sculpter?
Lemme clarify a bit: where is it implied....
buoyant nebula
So what happened with Huff's son? In the bornheim lore it talks about a letter he wrote to him, and how he's angry, but what actually goes on with him?
amber harbor
I think that is Huffs father writing to him, but i dont know for sure
I know Caldwell was supposed to give them weapons but instead shot all his hunters with a sparks sniper
buoyant nebula
"Heh, get fucked whiteshirts"
amber harbor
Pinned comments has a google doc with all in game documents aka mastery unlocks
winged ember
So the Rat seems to be a gender swaped version of Tuco from good the bad and the uglyhttps://youtu.be/ALM_NZIbsjg?t=22
I wish they had animated eating a chicken leg
the problem with the reference is that the legendry's have no personality outside their surface level appearance. all the characters have that lifeless expression
old helm
Yeah I think the rat is my favorite hunter mostly just because she is a female tuco
old helm
But you're not wrong, some personality would be cool
winged minnow
Like revenant undead?
winged minnow
Maybe? I could see it happening
Don't know much about how the revenant came back though
rotund ferry
But I want him to be like zombified and angry, not like revenant who went smoothbrained upon resurrection
Also, who killed black coat anyways
The twins? Or someone else?
winged minnow
Yeah his own daughters, the twins
rotund ferry
Yeah, I want a zombified, angrier than usual black coat out for blood
rotund ferry
Why do u think maybe tho?
winged minnow
Like why he would come back?
rotund ferry
Because he’s fucking pissed
Maybe went through a darker ritual than revenant to regain life
Like some kind of sculptor trial
winged minnow
Maybe, yeah, but really anything more to black coat would be cool cause he is mediocre in the lore and I don't personally like him as a legendary hunter in game
All he did in the lore was kill the twins' uncle then die
rotund ferry
True true
So maybe develop him more as a truly spiteful person that he would come back to life just to get revenge
Like just imagine the twins lol
“Uhhhh our crazy dad is back to life with more bloodlust than usual, what now”
amber harbor
Since black coat is alive in game, we can assume the game takes place before his murder, and bringing him back as a zombie would throw a wrench in all that, but if he disappears from the store for a while and then comes back as a zomvie as partof an event or smth it would be cool
Like the timeline is alive, like we're actually part of it
rotund ferry
Ah I see
winged minnow
Wait, were the twins around when huff got murdered?
Cause the game takes place after he was killed since now all the hunters are turning on each other
And if black coat is alive that means the twins weren't around right?
buoyant nebula
Yeah the twins were around when huff died
So that's usually a point used when people talk about how "As bad as they seem" isn't fully accurate
Other option is the legendary hunters don't all technically exist at the same time. Like Blackcoat was a legendary hunter who died, but we can still play as him
faint beacon
I thought lynch killed huff before he met the twins. Didn’t she have to inform them that he was dead later?
buoyant nebula
No, she brought them in to see Huff then killed him
amber harbor
'allegedly'
winged minnow
Gotta love those unreliable sources
polar warren
How exactly Caldwell managed to kill Huff's hunters with goddamned Sparks? There were over 10 of them, as I can remember...
polar fable
They were just the patients of his asylum, and I would imagine they didn’t have any military experience whatsoever, and he was a good shot, so...
amber harbor
and he was 200m away in the night
rotund ferry
“lol get quikscoped n00bs”
“this is going in my 3 subscriber montage”
-Caldwell, probably
rotund ferry
Am I the only person who imagines black coat talking like this if he had a voice?
boreal ravine
So has anyone noticed that on his left hand, the black coats fingers aren’t his ?
Like there’s a clear discrepancy in skin pigmentation
bronze roost
Its on the tier 3 hunters aswell
But i think its more of a ritual drawing / writing or whatever
But you never know tbh
winged minnow
It may just be side effects of long term dark sight use if it also appears on T3 hunters
wooden hawk
From what I heard somewhere the fingers turn dark due to prolonged use of Dark Sight, or somethin' along those lines
Like you can kind of see them turning black on some T2 skins, I think
bold tiger
The caldwell killing everyone with the sparks part is weird
They must have been in the middle of a field with literally no cover or concealment within 200 meters or something
Either that or caldwell didn't recock the sparks after every shot like our hunters do.
paper shuttle
is the Winfield Vandal Striker showing the same journal page as the base Winfield Vandal for anyone else?
amber harbor
yeah, i think they pasted the same thing twice
rotund ferry
Yo umm... what's the lore of this game? Is there a video explaining it?
amber harbor
best thing we have is pinned comments
there is a beginners guide and a google doc with all the info
buoyant nebula
So what is Lynch, a witch, a spirit?
And did she take over the AHA? Like does she run it now?
amber harbor
She is supposed to be another entity in for her own reasons, and she decentralises the aha even further by killing huff and leaving the organisation to fight itself
She is shrouded in the dark magic of hunt, and she says at one point that her body is limiting, make of that what you wish
I've been thinking about most of what we have about her is dime novels and the like, which means she is more of a legend
This could mean she was as badass as she is described, or that the actions of many hunters were attributed to the legend of Lynch
The most genuine accounts of Lynch and the twins come from legendary weapons and the Phantom imo
buoyant nebula
The Phantom?
rotund ferry
Yes the legendary skin and character, looks like the phantom of the opera
buoyant nebula
yeah but what does he have to do with lynch?
rotund ferry
Him and Lynch’s band of hunters came into conflict after the phantom killed his father and some other hunters under Lynch, they engaged in a standoff where the phantom holed up in a barn, Lynch cut her losses and offered the mechanical arm seen on the phantom as a truce offering
You might fact check me on the first part of the story but I’m fairly certain the second is up to date
Much of his lore is in the vandal entries iirc
amber harbor
all of it actually
all vandals have all we have, a 3 part journal
only the striker doesn't have part 2 due to bug or oversight
rotund ferry
Both likely
inland citrus
So has anyone here decoded the word cyphers in the Grunt lore tab in the Monstrorum?
I'm working on it now and not sure where/what the key to the cypher is.
Could be something simple like rearranging the letters or shifting the alphabet over.
Or might be decoding in one type of cypher and then taking that mess of an answer and decoding it in another cypher.
Could use any help or clues from the community.
amber harbor
look in the pinned messages
this doc has all monstrorum entries, with the cyphers decoded
inland citrus
Thanks I appreciate that
amber harbor
and those are just latin sentences without spaces inbetween 
rotund ferry
Water devils could have been prevented if the dudes just brought food and water and didn’t eat a fucking festering dead horse or whatever
paper ginkgo
Wait what happened with the water devils?
amber harbor
they were intestinal worms who got in contact with hunter blood
glacial portal
I thought I read somewhere they were bloodworms? Or am I mistaken?
nocturne wharf
Might be leeches
amber harbor
the original water devils were worms that were feeding on a dead horse, and some hunters ate it bc they gambled all their bounty money away
since they came in contact with hunter blood which contains some magic from the other side, they mutated
lyric arrow
If i understand it correctly it was rumored to have been leeches, but they were not
Since it were white worms in festering meat, propably maggots
Also the (propably) infested leeches are a diffrent creature, namely the leeches that live simbiontic with the meathead
slate grotto
In the French version the worm are not on a dead horse but in some rabbits killed or found by a Hunter in the bayou.
Like when you kill a Hellhound some white worm flowing from there neck.
amber harbor
interesting
woven forge
Hellhounds are the same as Grunts.
They have white maggots that pump nutrients to keep the less-than-alive-body moving.
Water devils however are parasitic worms.
They mature in bodies and try to exit near water or inside water.
rotund ferry
Wonder if it’s possible to find a less-decomposed grunt and perhaps they can be restored?
Also, I think I asked this already, but why do the hunters banish when all that does is send the boss back to the sculptor’s realm for him to reuse?
amber harbor
they dont have such high iq plays
they think as long as it remains in our world its corrupting it
- its the only way to procure bounty tokens, and they like money
rotund ferry
Sigh, if only Hunt had been in the modern era
Then they would just posts pics of their bounty kills on Reddit and Instagram for clout
rotund ferry
Why does the immolator go up in flames when his skin is pierced?
He does that because he’s literally just a burning corpse that hasn’t disintegrated yet.
His body is held together by deep dark voodoo magic and when he’s pierced, the flames are so strong he finally becomes dust
Why wouldn´t that happen when you beat him up with a large hammer?
warm lagoon
Because the hammer is a blunt melee weapon and won't pierce his skin
rotund ferry
Well, for a normal person it will
And the nitro just kinda makes the immolator go BOOM
But it does so much damage it consumes his HP so
Assuming u have a nitro, you see an immolator, and someone walking near said immolator, shoot the immolator for a free explosive barrel
Well to be fair, you may wanna keep him alive so the immolator continues to fuck up the dude afterwards
warm lagoon
Well we've kinda shifted to the nitro here
rotund ferry
We’re still talking about immolators
warm lagoon
His original question was about immolators not going in flames when being hit by the hammer
amber harbor
And so the answer is that the immolators skin is just strong enough to contain his inner fire, so when it breaks via stab hole or bullethole it lets out all that energy
rotund ferry
but then the energy should be directed to the direction of the hole in his skin?
rotund ferry
Yeah it is, it all just explodes out tho
wouldnt he be pushed into the opposite direction, like a rocket
or more like a balloon
pale scroll
What are water devils exactly
nocturne wharf
Some hunters decided it was a good idea to eat maggots... The maggots mutated within them and...
winged minnow
I don't remember the specifics, but I know that after two hunters gambled their money away they ate some meat during a hunt that was infested with some sort of intestinal worms that then mutated when they came in contact with their hunter blood and ate their way out of them
paper spruce
wasnt there a link for the louisiana incident book before?
old helm
I wish this game's lore had comics about this stuff. I feel like it would work really well with that medium.
amber harbor
there was a super cool 3 panel comic a while back in fanart, but nothing official
Hello guys, here is a comic page I made with ink on A3 paper 🙂
@opal vigil @old helm
old helm
That looks sick
opal vigil
I don't know who made this but he is very bad 
opal vigil
Just appreciate his art
dude, this is me who made this x) it was a joke
visual finch
The only things that did not convince me is the onomatopoeia.
The rest is very good
opal vigil
The only things that did not convince me is the onomatopoeia.
I used basics onomatope used in many comic books from my country ^^
rotund ferry
dude, this is me who made this x) it was a joke
Oh fuckin hell, look at me getting duped
Well it looks really good, kudos haha
rotund ferry
It’s always been my ambition to make a comic book
opal vigil
DO IT !
rotund ferry
Ahaha I would, but school is not holding back
But maybe thanks to thanksgiving, I’ll be able to make some progress...
opal vigil
I hope for you 🙂
rotund ferry
Thanks haha
marble junco
Whose canonically the strongest Hunter
candid shoal
I'm not super well-versed in the lore, so I may be wrong, but I believe the Twins are very strong, so maybe they would be the "strongest" Hunters?
winged minnow
Carcass gun runner do be lookin thicc
vague cairn
I'll ask again in the proper channel this time
I just want to know like, what the fuck is this thing anyway that's causing all this stuff in Hunt Showdown
Also, how and why can people use these magical dark sight powers
If someone could point in the direction where I can find such answers that'd be great or if you could just tell me outright that'd be great too
I tried looking on the wiki but all I get are explanations for mechanics
burnt storm
Check out pinned messages in #lore-discussion-hardcore , everything we have is compiled there
Oh and here too, I think the most comprehensive one is actually pinned in this channel
vague cairn
Yeah, whats the difference between the two channels anyway?
burnt storm
The other one is only accessible by request for people who wanted to discuss lore in a more serious manner. It's mostly redundant now, since we haven't had new lore in a while.
vague cairn
That's a damn shame because I do find what I have read so far pretty interesting
burnt storm
Yeah, the lore is pretty interesting, we get small entries every time new AI or a weapon is added, hopefully we'll get some with the new map too
Most of it was added on EA launch and 1.0 release
vague cairn
It almost sounds like some Eldritch type shit which I am all for
Shame it actually isn't but still, I'll take it
winged minnow
I've seen so much lore that takes the Eldritch approach, I'm persoanlly glad hunt didn't
vague cairn
I haven't seen that much, despite it being my jam
Well I say that but anything demonic, unholy etc etc is my shit.
whole hemlock
@burnt storm do you guys have a breakdown or dissuasion on the chalk boards in parish?
Bc some of them look like possible explains like alt time lines and such 🤔
random lava
It's an Easter egg for back to the future
rotund ferry
Anyone else wish they would buy a proper licence and replace the lore alltogether?
Maybe a license for one of the older movies like "Jesse James meets Frankensteins Daughter" or "Billy the Kid vs Dracula"
faint frigate
no
rotund ferry
Same the lore is already great
well maybe it could be enriched with the frankenstein or dracula stuff?
like new bosses?
polar fable
Wouldn’t call it “enriched” in this case, “generic” would suit better
rotund ferry
I mean the lore for the butcher is highly rooted in the Frankenstein’s monster story, I think the devs wanted to go more with a voodoo/Eldrich route rather than the classic Halloween monster suite
rotund ferry
Sorry I was just trying to improve it.
glossy falcon
Let's keep this to Lore Discussion please. This isn't #game-ideas or #feedback-discussion ...
winged minnow
If a wendigo were to fit in the lore it would likely have to start with a rabid dog that mutated horribly, but the most any animal has "mutated" were the water devils when coming in contact with hunter blood
So not sure how that could work out
rotund ferry
But wouldn't a wendigo fit more with it mutating from a deer or elk
winged minnow
Not sure if you could find one in Louisiana, not that it matters much, but it would still have to have drastic changes made to it to pose a notable threat
rancid cradle
Wendigos have traditionally been people that consumed human flesh and then turned to the monster as a result. atleast in everything ive read about them
nocturne wharf
That is a fair point. Given what happens to worms when they touch hunter blood, what would happen to cannibals? And i know there are cannibal tribes in Louisiana at that time period.
abstract torrent
it's worth mentioning that wendigos in their very lore typically inhabit colder environments
nocturne wharf
Very true, but i would actually argue against "colder" and suggest "coldest"
Although my point is less Wendigo lore, more Hunt lore
abstract torrent
very true. the thing with wendigos is hunger. often in lore they're humans who gave into cannibal impulses because there is little food in the cold environments
a wendigo themed monster would be interesting though
nocturne wharf
I'd love some sort of guard for the bosses themselves
As specified the blood of hunters does awful things, so why shouldn't the place that holds most blood (aka the boss lair) have altered forms of the "fauna"
abstract torrent
in a PvE only mode that'd make sense but i feel like that and the chance of hunters running up on you would prove overwhelming to the bounty team