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warm wyvern
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I’ll definitely screenshot it when it happens again

still citrus
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Again, stop using stats as be all end all. They are valid only in sterile environments

worthy python
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if that happens, its a bug and with the proper proof the team will fix it

worthy python
still citrus
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We aren't perfect as animals, nothing we create will ever be perfect, so no line of code will ever be unaffected by just randomenss and chaos. So you should only use data as guidlines

grave iris
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Krag's underwhelming performance comes from the weapon and the stats are a part of it. Almost never meet one.

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Krag dominates not the silencer one.

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There is a reason for it.

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And the reason is the weapon underperforms. Can't even 2 tap properly. Not to mention can't kill a downed hunter.

worthy python
still citrus
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I think having stronger weapons and weaker ones is the sign of a healthy game. Reality is like that, and good games mimic reality.
Having mechanics that are at the core of the experience and then giving a tool that disregards does mechanics, that's just bad devving

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Silencers ok
But make them as Derringer. It affects people far from. Fight becoming aware of were and how ma y are shooting. But doesn't affect the fight itself.

Now they are just broke

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And to fix you put in blast sense which is just bleah

And so starts a chain of bad choices and worst fixes

worthy python
still citrus
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It's stupid in a game that uses audio to see

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Just put blast sense and stop using your ears

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It's a mechanic in the making game accessible line

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Which is the death of any game ever

worthy python
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you have to use shadow sight for that?
So you cant shoot back or anything

still citrus
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Hell, even cod is starting to pay that price 😅

worthy python
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its not like you get wallhack, you can use it to get a rough location of the person shooting.
Very niche since you can just use sound to locate in 99% of the time

still citrus
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My dude, hitting dark sight for 1 sec instead of having to sit and listen for a couple of mins isn't the same

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Again it's for casuals

worthy python
still citrus
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But hunt should be for casuals

worthy python
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sitting and listenting couple of minutes?

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idk. what games you are playing my guy

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but if you need minutes to locate the rough area of a silencer guy

still citrus
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If you need to know how many are shooting and pinpoint were you might listen, open map

worthy python
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thats on you

still citrus
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Look around

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Or just tap blast sense

worthy python
still citrus
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No, it's a stupid tool making game more accessible for casuals

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Exactly

still citrus
worthy python
worthy python
still citrus
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Nha, I just love stupid weapons 😅

worthy python
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why would you ever open map, when people are shooting at you

still citrus
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My real cup of tea is arma and hell let lose and hunt before whatever it's becoming now

worthy python
still citrus
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You aren't getting my point, it's fine

worthy python
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thats just an excuse

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to pat your back

still citrus
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Or you mainly use good weapons and only sometimes run dragon breath and hand crossbow

worthy python
still citrus
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Still bad

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Beyter

worthy python
still citrus
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Better

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But still bad

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Hahahaha now you'll say hand crossbow Is meta

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Man hunt is really going down hill

worthy python
still citrus
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Alone is bad. With long ammo is good

worthy python
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lebel isnt meta, yet its still very good.

still citrus
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With shotgun is borderline trash

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Yes
All long ammo is good

worthy python
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if you pair your hand crossbow with a melee weapon, thats on you

worthy python
still citrus
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Yes, I'm not the one accusing the other of being bad, you are. I just explained why I like staying in lower brackets. I don't need to prove anything and I'd rather have fun then show you how I can do at 6 stars

worthy python
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mosin is meta, the other long guns dont have to be

still citrus
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Long ammo is meta dude

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It's the only garandied 2 shot at basically any distance

worthy python
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and yet the mosin is still a lot better than the other options

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which is why its the meta weapon

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you dont see berthier or lebel often at all, because there is no reason to take them over the mosin

still citrus
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I'm not complaining about not being able to raise my stars, I'm not that needy to prove myself.
I'm complaing about a 2 year dev direction into accessibility which since the dawn of gaming has never been a good choice for longevity

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And crag was meta as of 2.0

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Now will be bertier after last changes

worthy python
still citrus
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And is still not the issue

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It's fine to have strong weapons

worthy python
still citrus
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I actually would like borheim, nitro and auto do get a little buff. Until I can hear you in a game were hearing are my eyes all is gucci

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Silenced crag!!!

worthy python
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and now its not meta

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its ass

still citrus
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Man I feel like I'm in a chat with dense people

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2 shots sliced weapon? You for real?

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The bornheim is bad, the bomb lance is mhe

grave iris
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Bornheim is great for fishing headshots.

still citrus
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The crag is amazing, maybe not best but still very strong

grave iris
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Decent drop range and velocity

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Great pistol

still citrus
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Man you are a troll aren't you?

grave iris
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If you can land headshots

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Im serious

still citrus
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A wrapo that requires a good skill isn't strong

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It's good

worthy python
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you should try to get a job in a balancing team

still citrus
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Yes, we are talking about broken

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Audio are your eyes. Taking that away and giving you range is dumb. Why vetterly was ok, crag and Maynard are not

grave iris
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You said the Bornheim is bad. The pistol is great especially the match variant.

still citrus
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Could be fun

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But only for games I love
I would love to chat with hunt devs

worthy python
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no problem

still citrus
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Even just to thank them for an amazing game

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Not sure

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Already did and he encouraged me to come here

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I talk from love for the game. Not for my stats 😘

worthy python
still citrus
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I don't care if I die a hundred times if game is healthy

I'm quite good at predicting markets and atm hunt is a stock that is crashing

worthy python
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quite a tough love

still citrus
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No, I want it to stay true to it's roots

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A hard core game

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And if it means gatekeeping winy silencer users that aren't good enough to go loud so be it. Not the game for them

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It's a cowboy game with zombies

worthy python
grave iris
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The winnie silencer is seriously underperforms.

still citrus
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Dunno you but ain't seen a lot of silencer used to fight duels hahaha

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No, my dear troll that isn't listening

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The issue is a tool out of place

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Making your noodlet life easier trough a cheap mwchanic

worthy python
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so far the issue is that you dont like silencers because ppl can play around the strength and hide

latent geyser
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You're seeing a lot of trolls arguing about the same thing...

worthy python
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and you cant seem to triangulate the general direction where the shot came from

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which is a skill issue

still citrus
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Or just dense people who love shooting without being heard in a game were hearing is all

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A bit like kids with aimbot on cod

worthy python
still citrus
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As I said
Keep silencers
Make them like arma and real ones

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Not actually silent

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Just harder to pinpoint

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But wait

worthy python
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just listen

still citrus
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It used to be that way

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.......

worthy python
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I'd advise ya to play around with your audio settings

still citrus
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If your within 40m further they are virtually silent

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You guys are dense

latent geyser
still citrus
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Never didn't admit

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Still not enough

worthy python
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said inclusivity features are bad

latent geyser
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It's underwhelming tbh.

still citrus
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Maynard if your walking you will never hear further Tha 30m
And if you stand still you die

latent geyser
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All but the match.

worthy python
still citrus
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So it's broke

latent geyser
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No way, standing still and you die ?

still citrus
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Make it audible at 100 m
It would be fine

latent geyser
worthy python
latent geyser
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It actually is.

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Just try it out.

worthy python
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I can hear that shit across the map in bounty clash (exeggaration)

latent geyser
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Unless they use subsonic, you can hear them up to 100m.

still citrus
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I'm done
If a dev that actually understands game mechanics and balancing is here I would love to go deeper
Listening to cod kids protecting their only means of winning a game boring

latent geyser
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And people don't usually use subsonic because you lose on velocity and drop range.

still citrus
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Cya

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Or not 🤷

worthy python
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devs dont balance on feelings, they balance on stats and experience

worthy python
latent geyser
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Well, if you refuse to listen to what players have to say... that's on you, and just because a dev can accept to listen to you doesn't mean they'd abide by what you say.

still citrus
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Not mad, at all
I studie peps brains I'm actually enjoying observing you guys

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It's like a broken wheel 😅

worthy python
latent geyser
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Kinda funny how you try to act smarter than you sounded ever since you talked about silencers.

worthy python
still citrus
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You don't want to understand because it would require you understanding a part of yourself which in this case the suppressors enables 😘

latent geyser
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Since you've been factually wrong about them the whole time and refused to admit it or even actually checking it.

worthy python
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unlucky

still citrus
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I speak 4 languages fluently, sorry if I don't write perfectly

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Grammars get mixed up

latent geyser
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Even though stats nowadays are getting much more reliable than before 1896...

still citrus
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And game is doing always worse
Almost like there was a connection with order not working in a chaotic univers
Funny isn't it

latent geyser
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Speaks fluently and yet can't make a proper diff between english and the rest ? Is that supposed to be you being prideful ?

worthy python
still citrus
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Hahahaha I forgotten English is the god language

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O sorry

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Ain't gonna be for much longer lol

worthy python
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currently like 2k players below the usual 23k, yeah.
Just waiting for a new event

still citrus
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Does number are good during no events

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We have an event atm

worthy python
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its a battlepass

still citrus
latent geyser
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Hard to notice if it's an actual issue or you being arrogant in the end.

worthy python
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there is a lot of pride and cope included

still citrus
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And why are they downgrading events and more and more community surveys? You think a game doing well give a s about spending time, analists and money on that?

still citrus
latent geyser
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They went up with the MC event, which had mitigated returns because of many things. This one is more to "please the crowd" and fix stuff.

warm wyvern
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It’s honestly a niche game that’s doing well for a niche game

worthy python
latent geyser
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People don't appreciate the quality of vanilla hunt...

grave iris
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For vanilla experience play Soul Survivor HUL

worthy python
still citrus
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In the 2 years prior schedule, this "battlepass" falls when the next event would be.

No, postmalone cost a lot and didn't do as well, plus silencer prob, ping, very slow new maps, stupid cosmetics etc etc all adds up
And now the event got downgraded to battle pass

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Crytheck is having big money issues, and hunt is their only and last hope

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They even admitted so a wile back

grave iris
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A battle pass is a very good price/value ratio. It costs 1000 and it gives back 600 BB. Plenty of skins.

still citrus
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And at its peak hunt wasn't so much a niche game and every big YouTube was trying it

grave iris
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You can farm it by only doing weeklies.

worthy python
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25k average with event 30-40k peeks is a niche game in the fps market

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sorry to break it to you

still citrus
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Don't be

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Your talking from inexperience and no long term view

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I cam assure you cryteck board of directors doesn't care about peaks but more about stable growth

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It's just how managing a company works

worthy python
still citrus
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Loll all this from a request to add distance to supressor sounds

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Peak in stable player counts

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I'm getting rapid fire from 3 different people

worthy python
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"rapid fire" = every few minutes a message

still citrus
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Not that fast at texting concepts that are quite complex

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From 3

worthy python
grave iris
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A cheap battle pass gives incentive for the players to play the game, meanwhile not cost a fortune to get plenty of cosmetics and animations.

still citrus
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That is not what I cal a stable chart 😂 😂 😂

worthy python
grave iris
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Fomo sure, but it is what it is.

still citrus
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The only stable peaks are the lows that hit in average the same number, which make it the way more reliable than randomic high peaks

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So you take that as your core player base

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The rest is volatile skin chasers

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That will leave as soon as they find a better game

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You have to raise the lows, not the highs

grave iris
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When an interesting event is active it brings players to the game. They just need to find ways to keep those players. And here comes their new player friendly attitude. So those new players can actually enjoy the game instead of getting stomped early on.

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If you stay too hardcore, those rookies get stomped and leave the game for good.

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There needs to be a balance between hardcore and accesibility.

still citrus
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The stability comes from people that want a certain experience, the volatility comes from a player base that seeks a quick satisfaction hit. Easy kills. Silencers.

Which is the cod marketing strategy. Hunt tried it. And cryteck is doing quite bad.

And hunt being their battle horse kinda tells you that it ain't going so well if the company is risking failure

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Anyways I have a work call

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Well have to wait and see

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Cya

grave iris
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Silencers are for those players who are shy away from face to face showdowns. In reality with a silencer you want to stay away from the bounty because if you have it you lose your surprise factor. Too many silencer players in a match and it becomes a camp fest. Not healthy for the game.

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The objective does not keep rolling, the game stagnates.

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But usually if you are active you have a free bounty.

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Because these players shy away from chasing you down.

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Not good again, if you want to actually fight in the game.

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I don't see silencers in my games, but I can imagine that if a game is full of them, the game becomes dull quite quickly.

hot vigil
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Silencers also got a MAJOR hit this patch

grave iris
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It is correct as well.

hot vigil
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Arguably a non-issue, but people tends to drop things until they figure that out lol

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non-issue as in, silencers are still strong

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and the nerf is not gonna impact that

grave iris
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You mean without subsonic?

hot vigil
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Naw, that silenced guns wanna go for headshot anyways, so (especially the Maynard) losing damage matters little.

grave iris
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I see.

empty oasis
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Both of the silencer nerfs were entirely unneeded, aside from the 2 problem guns which shouldnt have been added imo

hot vigil
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Also that

grave iris
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Leading the shot is harder with subsonic and with hv it is a lot easier and you still silent from far away where you snipe anyways.

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Muzzle flash sure but who cares from that far.

hot vigil
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Exactly

grave iris
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If you would like the game to **Show the real name of the weapon with a skin that lays on the ground in addition to the skin's name **, here you can upvote the idea: #game-ideas message
(66 upvotes already)

craggy yarrow
umbral chasm
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The Developers need to hire another development studio cuz we JAM the channel for Ideas and im sure that they cant fullfill our desires even if they were top notch.....

gaunt barn
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lets be honest prestiging it pointless no?

white plover
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Do you want free skins/like the skins available via prestiging

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Do you want something to “progress towwrds” or do you prefer having everything unlocked and having a pool of money to play what you want to

latent geyser
indigo hound
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this sounds like way too much damage, no?

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crystal plume
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Not really, essentially 5 kills with them

white plover
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Things like penny dinger, your knife, throwing stuff, tons of damage consumables as well

latent geyser
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Beetles also work fine but slowly.

indigo hound
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nvm I thought iyt was only tools

unborn sandal
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@broken moat you do realize that in a trade situation you get the advantage over a higher ping player when it comes to invalidating shots

soft frigate
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Who do I gotta tag to see this is a popular suggestion? Would be see if something was actually done with it

worthy python
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If you can't connect to a server from the beginning, it's the server being dead or smth.
Just gotta requeue.
If you joined the server and disconnected mid round, never had a problem with reconnecting

novel solar
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does anyone recall at least a single suggestion being added to the game?

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this whole section looks like some dumb joke to me

leaden belfry
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weather rain maps with caves

novel solar
leaden belfry
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ahh ok

novel solar
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rain maps and caves are not really something unique or unusual so their appereance was just the matter of time

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hm. so there is no actual reason to suggest anything

stable flax
crystal plume
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Bunch of weapons have been community requests, darksight boost was originally a fan concept, this entire year being dedicated more to stability of the game with less focus on content is thanks to the community's sentiment about the state of the game, there have been a bunch of additions that were either direct suggestions/feedback or inspired by them

novel solar
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at least it seems they add a thing first then desperatly trying to figure out what to do with it

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not to mention cryteks approach to balancing (flashbang is one of the brightest examples)

novel solar
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why i never can just get a straight answer i wonder Mood

crystal plume
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If you want to believe that they do not look at suggestions or feedback then feel free, won't really matter in the end as the community managers do look through the channels as they write their community sentiment reports

white plover
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Removal of revive bolt

novel solar
latent geyser
languid lark
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Out of region players in Europe servers. Ping cap needed.

umbral chasm
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Specter Shorty slugs doesnt kill from 1.5 metres.

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the shot was to the chest.... 111 dmg!

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in the description says 157.

hot vigil
umbral chasm
hot vigil
umbral chasm
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i dont.

hot vigil
umbral chasm
hot vigil
umbral chasm
round hound
rotund obsidian
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reconnect seems different person to person, some people always reconnect flawlessly and others have like a 10% success rate, where it usually doesnt work or breaks the audio or visuals or something else horrendous

quartz socket
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yeah mine works like 90% of the time but every once in a while breaks

rotund charm
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did they communicate to community at all about reducing the amount of per week bloodbonds we earned?

crystal plume
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Nothing other than it being intentional so far

rotund charm
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1HuntNice less reason to keep playing sadly

versed harbor
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3 tier prestige skin progression for the 4 free hunters would be kind of rad. Just sayin'. 🙂

white plover
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@dry dew Cross invite between Game Pass PC and Steam is a WIP, but no announced ETA so it may be a bit

high kite
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Punisher Skin sell much better than Post Malone.

deep finch
white plover
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From what I have heard, it is typically Sony that acts as a roadblock to cross invites, but this is just second hand information so I don't know it's accuracy. But considering how quickly after the game came to PC Microsoft store/game pass I'm inclined to believe it

harsh fractal
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Title: Allow Duo Teams to Match with a Random Third Teammate in Trios

Details:
As a long-time Hunt: Showdown player with over 900 hours of experience, I’d like to raise an issue regarding trio matchmaking. When playing trios with a friend, we are often only two players. Currently, the game does not allow us to match with a random third player, which forces us into 2v3 situations against full teams.

This is frustrating, especially since solo players can be matched with two random teammates — so why can’t duos be matched with one? We enjoy trio gameplay but dislike playing as a duo due to the constant disadvantage. This system punishes small friend groups who want to enjoy the game at full team capacity.

I request that Crytek allow duo teams to queue for trios with a random third teammate, just like solo players can. Even if coordination with a random isn't perfect, it’s far better than always playing undermanned.

Thank you for considering this suggestion, and for continuing to support such a great game.

dusky axle
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This shows that game support is racist

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I asked for more help about the ban this Is what they tell me

hot vigil
dusky axle
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Yea I remember yesterday people telling me best support they will do anything for you

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They won't even try to help 😂 ducking losers

hot vigil
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When it comes to ban, there are rarely any chance for appeal, that is kinda industry standard, not even just a Crytek thing

dusky axle
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Ooh wow 😲 damn 🙏 I hope they all get sum they deserve

hot vigil
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Well, better luck not getting banned next time :)

umbral chasm
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Why the majority of the skins are for female characters....?

hot vigil
royal cosmos
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Hi guys.
I was wondering what plans you have for the weekly tasks.
Now that the event has finished I find I am not bothered to do them.
Could do with a little reward variety.

Thank you for such a great game.

hot vigil
signal mural
hot vigil
royal cosmos
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so if you have plenty of the currency.. you are probably not going to bother right?

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so every streamer and decent player

uneven cairn
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Only people who don't do it are those who arent assed to

white plover
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And please just post it in one channel such as #game-ideas , spamming it in multiple channels isn’t going to help

umbral chasm
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i play trios with randoms and get trransfered to another region...

river zephyr
unborn dagger
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@bold temple "why would you choose choke over a fire beetle?"

Because it gives players away by coughing and take out a player burning without giving your cover away? I'll take that over firebeetle anytime because it's better at providing support

bold temple
unborn dagger
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And once again it has a use of stopping your team mates from burning without giving your position away

bold temple
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Coughing also doesn’t make them one shot to about 80% of the loadouts I run, and again choke bombs do the same thing, and if I reaaaallyyyy need someone to cough in a build I’ll hit them for their health then choke them while they burn/bleed but id rather push with my beetle, maybe because so many people just use them from 100-200 meters away but I’m using mine as close as I safely can to the building so I can push for the one taps

unborn dagger
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All three beetles have their uses but choke beetle is easily the most useful due to how supportive it is for your team mates

latent geyser
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@gleaming needle a confederate Hunter has implications that Crytek will definitely try to avoid. You can be sure they won’t add any of them, best they can do are union soldiers.

gleaming needle
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@latent geyser edited the message above

hot vigil
# gleaming needle Why not? They can make a hunter based on the Confederates. I don't understand wh...

It is the same reason why we don't have scalp hunters or slavers, yes they are horrible people, but they are historical systemic brand of horrible that is still felt to this day.
Simply put, it is about not wanting to open a can of worms and attract a certain crowd that would like these kind of skins unironically and for what they stand for.
I understand that sucks for normal adjusted people who just enjoy historical stuff, but simply just not worth the trouble it can bring.

gleaming needle
hot vigil
gleaming needle
hot vigil
hushed turret
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equipment save slots shouldnt cost blood bonds.
especially now that it takes minutes to set up a new hunter.
i want to have every build i can think of saved so i dont have to deal with this horrible UI.

crystal plume
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I have been fine with using just one loadout slot before 2.0 and after 2.0

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I just use it for tools and consumables

crystal plume
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@coarse kestrel For the record if you are referring to the stars with "most players already have all 6 RMRs" the statement is simply not true, majority of players are around 4 star

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Also we used to have leaderboards but they were removed thankfully

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It encouraged cheating/exploiting and in general lead to more boring playstyles from people

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The game's focus should never be a measuring contest

coarse kestrel
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but some kind stats like longshots would be nice even u can only see it your self

crystal plume
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Yeah something like that would be cool

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I'd like weapon specific stats

coarse kestrel
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that would be nice 😄 I'm a CS player and reached 6 RMR after around 50 hours in the game. I really enjoy it, but it starts to get a bit boring once the event ends. i have no intrest just grinda prestiges and i have around 450 hours now on the game. but some kind stats would be nice.

crystal plume
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The MMR/stars are not even intended to be some goal/rank the way csgo or such has, they are visible for the sake of giving people more context why they matched against X or Y players in a match

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As well as making the game more fair in general for different skill levels

coarse kestrel
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yeh kinda understand that but it would be nice u have some goals in game.

crystal plume
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If anything after playing in high MMR lobbies for thousands of hours it's more of a punishment, whenever I watch people play in other MMR brackets they have a lot more variety and fun playstyles than in my matches

coarse kestrel
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but just saying my thoughts 😄 only have 450hours on game so kinda noob still in game 🫡

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so prob just going back cs2 and waiting the new event 😄

crystal plume
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I do agree on having more goals to work towards though 100%, I just don't want them to fall under the "tryhard" umbrella like something like MMR/rank/leaderboards would

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I'd prefer something like adding skin unlocks to getting X amount of kills with Y weapon and stuff like that

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They kinda did something like that with hunters already since we have the rookie -> survivor -> veteran hunter unlocks when you get them to lvl 50

coarse kestrel
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ye i did some of them and it was fun there was goal for to go 😄

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yeh like old mw2 skin unlocks do 250 headshots unlock skin 😄

neon bloom
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Prestige skins for guns would be nice but also skins for stuff that happens organically with the wacky stuff that happens in hunt would be neat too.

-killing a hunter while suffering from bleeding, poison and fire, three times could unlock a hunter skin that is all burnt and bloodied

-shooting dynamite out of the air and killing the thrower could unlock a dynamite bundle skin

-throw hammer and run could unlock a railroad hammer skin

-getting the achievement for opening 250 quick play rifts could give a hunter tainted by rifts, with blue glowy rift hands or something.

I think hunt is missing this type of progression, but the progression hunters are a good start

unborn dagger
lunar sierra
wanton folio
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I really want the Light the Shadow pack to return. Those Native American Hunters are awesome!!!

dreamy folio
crystal plume
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It shouldn't as it's not a metric of skill but rather a metric of playstyle

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If you played back when we had leaderboards, you'd know it was dominated by exploiters, slow campy playstyles and such

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Or if we want to use a currently relevant example, Rachta is one of the best players currently yet he has lower KDA than me since he goes for more "style point" plays for content that doesn't always work out, and despite the higher KDA I would consider myself a worse player than Rachta

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KDA also changes too slow to be a good metric, you could easily tank it and it would take ages to get it high again and during that time if it was a factor in matchmaking it would be in your favor

dreamy folio
# crystal plume It shouldn't as it's not a metric of skill but rather a metric of playstyle

I already played the game when leaderboards were still around, and the campy playstile is still present, it may have gotten a little better but thats not the point…
You said the mmr system is about fair matchmaking, which is not since there are not enough brackets and the kda (which in a certain degree also represents a persons aim and gamesense) is not factored at all, thus making it „unfair“ for people that share the same bracket but have a huge individual disdvantage in skill …

crystal plume
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More fair, not fair, it will never be 100% fair

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No game can get it 100% right

dreamy folio
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Thats reason enough to no try to improve it at all? 😅

crystal plume
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I never said so, I just said that KDA is not the way to do so

gilded knoll
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My KDA is under 1.1 but l've been locked in 6* for ages. It's constantly on the rise, but it got buffered so hard when I originally started playing that it would take years to get it to anything "high". (Or maybe a few months of being a nasty sniper 🤢).
Because of how it's calculated, KDA doesn't reflect your current skill level. Even if it were factored in in any way, it would need to have a cutoff point somewhere to make it only calculate for "recent" games.

signal mural
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Well we used to have a tick-box for match making not based on MMR/ELO. Presumably not many players (probably the players at or below the apex of the bellcurve distribution) utilized it, hence it being put out to pasture. Which would suggest something is better than nothing. 😛

crystal plume
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It also wasn't a flat out toggle to turn it on or off

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Having it off still meant that the game tried to match you based on MMR, but towards the end of the queue it would give up and match you with others who have it off

latent geyser
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@gleaming needle c'mon dude, we didn't went through weeks of asking Crytek to nerf the Headsman skin only for someone to request him to go back to his worse old self.
Also you can buy him during the Halloween period.

gleaming needle
latent geyser
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Mama Maye, and some equipement from Halloween events.

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Like an axe, a romero shorty, an obrez mace, maybe a vetterli silencer...

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But otherwise he's a seasonal hunter, just wait till October and you'll be able to get him for a hefty price.

tender plinth
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A bunch of the old seasonals come back around their season

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Devils advocate and coal bearer during winter, etc

latent geyser
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Coal Bearer is always around, he's from ToD. Scrooge wannabe however is seasonal.

sudden bluff
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#game-ideas message omg just reading this its a bit of a silly/funny idea but i think its actually so cool 😭 really lovely idea @cold basalt

uneven cairn
keen crest
uneven cairn
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Bro needs to git gud if he can't win a match with stock weapons and basic tools

sudden bluff
uneven cairn
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Side objectives do make the game a lot more fun

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I love whenever I get PvE weeklies so I have a reason to goof around the non-boss compounds

keen crest
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Some side objectives and more goals to play towards like weapon mastery, would really flesh out the game.

I love the game loop and game play, but I really feel like they're not giving us enough "reasons" to play.

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Like, I rarely use the content I unlock in battle passes, but I hop on the game way more often when there is one.
Simply because there is something to do again

latent geyser
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@native prawn it seems to be related to the bug where the endgame screens pops twice. When it happens, you won't see your tribute unless you play a game of any kind (Clash, hunt, SS, even training).

native prawn
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Jup. What bothers me is that this bug is there for so many month that i cant remember when i encountered it first.

native prawn
crystal plume
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I really don't want to encourage KDA gameplay any more than currently

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If anything I would love to see KDA being hidden entirely

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And this is coming from someone that has a "high" KDA

native prawn
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It depends a little how the players handle it. If you use it to monitor your progress its all good. The bad side is players hiding for that one kill for 45 minutes to see the value go up. However, i dont think you can get those players to play a decent playstyle just by removing the KD stat. They will find other reasons to admire the flora of the bayou... for 45 minutes...

native prawn
crystal plume
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I mainly would want weapon specific stats as well as something like longest kill/headshot or most kills in a match in general

native prawn
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Unfortunately i have the impression that all this beautiful ideas in the feedbackchannel, even the ones that are brought up countless times over the years dont result in more than the quarterly "We heard the community" statement. Sorry for venting...

empty harness
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When next battle pass?

crystal plume
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@drifting hornet I summon your chart

drifting hornet
crystal plume
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Thanks

drifting hornet
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no problem

crystal plume
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Could honestly turn it into a command, maybe after making it into a bit more readable format, and as long as CMs are fine with it since maybe they don't want to set expectations based on prior event schedules incase there will be differences in the future

quartz socket
drifting hornet
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as for format what are you thinking?

crystal plume
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Just cleaned out in general instead of criss-crossing lines, I'll check with CMs after the weeked if they are fine with it and then look into the format if they give the green light for it

uneven birch
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I like KD, keeps me in check and lets me understand what is going wrong if it goes down too much

crystal plume
# uneven birch

This is specifically why I mentioned it since some people put so much value on that number that they will dismiss the opinion of wanting it removed assuming that it's just because they have a low KDA, mine is around 3.00

uneven birch
crystal plume
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So no, I don't want it removed because of mine being low, I want it removed because it leads to boring playstyles and cringe measuring contests

uneven birch
crystal plume
uneven birch
drifting hornet
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I wonder how many alt accounts are sold on people trying to reset kd

uneven birch
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I'm perfectly happy with my 1.4. reached 6 stars, I'm done and don't care too much

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Mostly KD for me is something to keep me in check. I've gone on losing streaks where I've dipped like 0,05 and had to evaluate what I'm doing wrong

crystal plume
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As for how to communicate stats so that they can be used as an indication of how well you are doing, I think we could replace it with average kills per match or something along those lines. That way deaths aren't considered a blatantly bad thing that need to be avoided at all costs, when in reality you can sometimes sacrifice yourself in some situations while your teammates finish off the enemy which shouldn't be seen as a "well your KDA went down so that was a bad move"

drifting hornet
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I'd like to even see perhaps a quartly kd

uneven birch
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Buying wards, sentries, flasks for teammates

deep finch
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yeah, like in other games where it shows your damage output also, so perhaps you had a lot of assists, revives, consumable uses (especially in conjunction w/ at least a 2d replay) you could surmise all the opportunities you created for your teammates and such.

latent geyser
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#feedback message @runic shadow that's sadly absolutely not a hint for cheating. More one for people that play quite well since long and don't see the point of prestiging.

drifting hornet
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I see many with similar stats to mine at p0 and I'm p100. there are plenty that just don't bother.

white plover
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Seems like they are moreso talking about fresh accounts

fickle oasis
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#feedback-discussion the time after the bounty clash bounty has been extracted is just a tad short now. 5 min was possibly too long but 1.5 min is too short in my opinion. Make it 3min os something!

white plover
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which again isn't necessarily a sign of cheating

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Possibly just smurfs or something

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But new steam accounts are typically a bit sus, never know if they are ban evading or just smurfing

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If you have any suspicions though you can clip it and send it to Crytek CS

crystal plume
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Also saying that you have had 100s of cheaters in the last month is extremely unlikely

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At most I feel like I have 1-2 cheaters a month that I die to, been months where I didn't notice anything sus as well

quartz socket
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I have to say I've only faced 6-7 people who I seriously suspected of cheating in my time playing hunt (~1100 hours), and 2 of those times have been in the last month

hot vigil
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Had one yesterday sadly, but the exception rather than rule.

willow pine
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Genuine concern - i have 4000 hours in game as a preface - US West seems to be almost exclusively populated by european, south american and Asia players making it nearly impossible to get clean games. The ping advantage im finding in these players is extreme, and more often than not, im getting killed while still in the cover of a corner or some type of obstacle, that on their screen shows me exposed. This seriously is creating issues, and its an advantage that many people in different regions are taking advantage of, and openly brag about on stream. Just today i've had two different streamers tell me they play on US West even though their ping is right at the upper limit because they feel it gives them an advantage, and why wouldnt they.

Yeah leaving a pretty terrible taste in my mouth even after all these hours. I love this game, but this is getting unbearable. (Also im a mid teir 6 star for match type reference)

hot vigil
# willow pine Genuine concern - i have 4000 hours in game as a preface - US West seems to be a...

I dunno if this is any comfort as I do agree that ping limit should be stricter and it "feels bad" to die when you are already behind a wall.
But that said, in the grand scheme of things when you die behind a wall, the shooter didn't get any advantage to do such as the hit reg is client side.
By all intend, that shot is in theory valid, just that you get that info sent to you later due the the latency discrepancy.

unborn sandal
soft frigate
umbral chasm
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So far this is the only game i like the weapons as they are....

torn quiver
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@dire wagon the reason why there is so little time in clash after bounty leaves is that solos will die and necro themselves when bounty has left the game to loot bodies so farm money easily, this happened a lot and was too bad so crytek lowered the time. If you dont like it then maybe you should play for the bounty

dire wagon
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@torn quiver There's a really simple solution to this. Burn solos. You should always do it either way. I always play for the bounty but let me give you an example. Many teams usually rotate at the beginning of the match and end up fighting you, there's almost always going to be another team that hears the gunshots and tries to sandwich you. If you are not camping buildings and bushes and are actually playing the game this happens more often than not. This many times gives the opportunity to a team to grab the bounty and extract without you being able to do anything about it. Good for them. Many times though we ended up killing 2 or 3 teams that were pushing us and ran out of time or had to abandon our loot and go. Trust me when i say that this is making people quit the game and these are people that are actually making the game more fun for everyone. Players you would want to play against and not players going afk for 10 minutes just to 3rd party someone

torn quiver
# dire wagon <@165067165081403392> There's a really simple solution to this. Burn solos. You ...
  1. if solo kills themselves on spawn they wont show up on bounty and will evade being burned
  2. you dont have time to burn every single suspicious player in clash
  3. if this is actually making players quit then i say thats on them, play objective and loot afterwards. If enemy rats the bounty and leaves without you knowing or that you cant do anything about it. and if that happens often then maybe its your playstyle that is wrong and you let that happen too often
native prawn
dire wagon
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@torn quiver We agree to disagree then. Issues like this one promote a rat playstyle witch no one enjoys playing with or against.

torn quiver
worthy python
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Insta burning, camping bodies from cover etc.

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Bounty extracting changing the time to. 1:30min gives the campers a reason to be active/at worst they have to fight for extract at the end if they don't wanna involve themselves in the bounty fight at all

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It's not black and white, and crytek decided on the 1:30 rather than having to instant burn every body.

dire wagon
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@worthy python Dude, rats will be rats. And no one said anything about camping bodies, you burn and move on, they will have to get up before time runs out. All I'm saying is do something so active players don't feel punished because of rats. Promote a more active playstyle somehow

worthy python
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else they just wait until the last second before burning out and poof, theyre alive again with no player anywhere close to them, if they moved on

hot vigil
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@brittle blaze long bow have been asked for a lot and I don't mind the addition, tho we currently have an issue of bow already being stronger than crossbow (+/-), so can't see how a 3-slot bow wouldn't just be "better crossbow"

rotund obsidian
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@gaunt oar #game-ideas message why on earth did you need to AI generate a picture of a wheel????? plus this literally already exists for controllers

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here's the updated 1896 one, too (too lazy to find a good quality one, this is from youtube)

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gaunt oar
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but yeah throw that shit in for keyboard and mouse

soft frigate
soft frigate
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@rustic timber you could always just communicate with your team most people listen if you mic up there always better options then lowering your random pool know what I mean

rustic timber
soft frigate
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I can’t really argue with that logic some people just don’t clique with each other and only think of them self in a team based game even if I don’t agree with that I respect your view @rustic timber

rustic timber
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Well.. kind of you. I do realise that people change, and maybe at some point they will play different.. But do I have time to wait for that? Do I really wanna have KD players waiting in my lobby, ready to sacrifice me while they run for their own safety? I don't need to play with randoms a lot.. Plenty of friends that play Hunt.. But sometimes you just want players with the same goals.. Mine is getting the bounty, wiping servers and extract,, And if the sniper kd guy could play with some other sniper guys dreaming of kd 3.0.. Then let them have fun togheter.. They will match..

edgy niche
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The amount of cheaters in high mmr that toggle or have esp and eventually, get tired and just start blantly cheating in the rounds are insane. we need to have servers verification at this point. im so fucking tired of it

white plover
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hit em with the report, especially if blatant it'll get em banned pretty quick

quartz socket
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#feedback message first of all, seven thousand is the low. Daily peak is like 20k and avg is like 15. Second of all, a 2, 4, and 6 star on a team facing a full 3-star team is pretty reasonable, especially if the 3 star team queued together and the others were randoms. Sometimes you play against better teams, other times worse. As long as your not consistently matching against teams with way higher averages than you all the time just move on

neon basalt
# edgy niche The amount of cheaters in high mmr that toggle or have esp and eventually, get t...

I began to see more of this posts, specially at Steam Forums, people complaining about even at low MMR players are playing like if they were 7MMR, one shot kills everywhere...smurfs? cheaters? a mix of all those? an annual cycle of cheaters? would be great to know if those arround 5K banned players where banned from which date to which? what percentage of the average player base are those banned accounts? 20%? 30%?

worthy python
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That's it

crystal plume
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Based on prior numbers statistically speaking it seems to be under 1%

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Back in 2021 during the "As The Crow Flies" event (which lasted only around 26 days) they released numbers which showed that we had almost 700k unique players play during that time frame, the almost 5k bans that they recently mentioned were since January

worthy python
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One account banned, they buy next account and cheat again

orchid violet
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sure they should still do hwid bans

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people will always cheat as long as they just get banned quickly and efficiently then all you can really hope for

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if you dont want to play against cheaters then play on console

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but youll probably have to just play against zen/cronus/strikepack

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idk how relevant those type of cheats would really be on hunt though

visual nova
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TITLE - IT ISN'T WORKING: I crunched the numbers, for the last year and a quarter y'all are roughly losing 2000 players a year. Do y'all really think that making sure people lose the game faster is the way to go? The increase in burn time, sucks for solos and teams. The change to necro, fair, but rewards the burn even more. Putting in great enemies like the bear and taking it away, not helpful. Partnering with Post Malone and not having the event plugged/pushed well marketing mishap big time. Left and right y'all miss the mark and often don't implement feedback in a useable way. People still have issues with folks who ping abuse and nothing has truly happened. People who use exploits stay on the game entirely too long blaring music through open comms and other ways that they abuse the in game chat. Y'all really need to work on creating a supportive and unique experience here, but instead y'all also encourage camping more in a wild west game that is supposed to be about typically fire fights some long range usage. Instead what I'm seeing is in general and from the other players I'm talking to randoms and my normal friends that I game with, THIS GAME IS BECOMING LESS AND LESS ENJOYABLE. This is a not a strictly competitive game seeing as there is no difference from ranked and casual play. Nothing states that this game is explicitly meant to be competitive. The gaming environment indeed is supposed have a competitive edge, but we shouldn't be feeling like we're playing against League of Legend style smurfs who go grandmaster and get a new account just to climb. Y'all need to do something curb the obsession players have with getting obserd KD ratios. Maybe implement more AI enemies or newer ones that discourage the rat play style.

quartz socket
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#feedback message I think the issue with 2-slot weapons more comes down to 2-slot weapons (shotguns in particular) being a bit overtuned. making fanning cheaper will still leave you better off with a sawed off shotgun. Instead, they should nerf the 2-slot shotguns and rifles a bit (this should also make precision variants and dualies more viable)

hot vigil
quartz socket
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ehh they weren't well balanced among one another, but as a whole they were acceptable

crystal plume
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Not really, without bullet drop and all that the pistols were better than medium slots most of the time

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Especially with quickswap

quartz socket
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yeah but quickswap got fixed ages ago

crystal plume
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Pistols are currently underwhelming because of bullet drop being so heavy on them

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Medium slots barely suffer from the same

quartz socket
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and 2-slot shotguns are a much bigger issue than 2 slot rifles

hot vigil
quartz socket
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I was more pointing to the fact that some 2-slots were vastly stronger than others

hot vigil
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Yes 2-slot shotguns were in bad spot, they felt like you had to run slugs to make them work and could have used a 2m reach buff, which instead they got more like 4-6m reach buff lol.

quartz socket
hot vigil
quartz socket
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oh yeah fair

quartz socket
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I think a ~10% 1hk range reduction across the board for 2 slot shotguns would fix it

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and they should also increase the sway on 2-slot rifles to like 110 so that there's more of a reason to use stocked pistols

hot vigil
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QM, 2-slots felt as a "nice to have, but not needed" addition to the game.

hot vigil
quartz socket
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no the old sway was 133

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unless they nerfed it before I started playing

hot vigil
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huh maybe I confuse it with something else

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But yeah

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give it more sway

quartz socket
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yeah the old sway was atrocious, new sway feels barely different from precisions

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also please crytek buff the scottfield and nagant precisions a little they are so sad

hot vigil
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Eeeeh, you can never make the P weapons that viable anymore with the inherent issue of them being pistols

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no matter what they gonna be out performed by rifles

quartz socket
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I mean the base nagant family could use a buff, as its currently so far outperformed by all the other cheap pistols, and all the scottfield precision needs is for them to change is to a 'match' and give it slightly better velocity and damage

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because as it stands the spitfire is straight up a better weapon than the precision and its 1 slot

hot vigil
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Well, precision does get like not recoil and sway.
So hitting 2-slots stockless rifles with worse recoil and sway would be a start :)

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(Which also got hugely buffed in the 2.0 patch btw)

quartz socket
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recoil does not matter on anything firing slower than like 90 rpm\

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and the closest thing rn is the vandal which isn't even close to being meta, but is nearly a direct upgrade from the scotty p

hot vigil
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I fucking love the vandal atm, it is really nice to use.
That said, it is too good for what it is.

quartz socket
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yeah given how cheap it is its a little much]

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increasing the sway and giving a small buff to the scotty p should be fine

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scotty p being too weak and sawed off rifles being too strong can both be true

hot vigil
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Scotty P is forever gonna be held back by its MV, using a 2-slot for a scottfield is just... not good

quartz socket
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hence making it a match

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give it like +30 mv and +5 damage. Not a huge buff, but enough for there to be an actual reason to use it

hot vigil
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Gonna help slightly, but still, you rather run a cenny or vandal over any of the guns.
Only reason uppercut p was slightly relevant at one point was bc its high base MV and 125+ damage.

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or obrez

quartz socket
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well it has apretty different niche to the cenny anyways

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fires way faster but does jack shit at range

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it would make for an interesting budget sniper sidearm, as its better at close range than most sawed off rifles but can still perform tolerably at medium range when snipers aren't useful

hot vigil
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It have a drop range of 65m tho

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Dunno, for me I think Scotty P is in a mostly fine place due the fact on how pistol vs. rifle works.
I wouldn't risk it to be just a strictly better Nagant P

quartz socket
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Yeah but it isnt a head clicker

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And the nagant is in even more need of a buff than it is

hot vigil
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I get the sentiment, but it simply just a deadlock of system that makes it impossible to really make the P variants feel like they have a place.
Even if you gave them the match treatment, their pistol bullet damage drop off is just gonna be worse than any rifle you can bring.

quartz socket
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so make them more viable at close range

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let them be less effective (but still usable) at medium range in exchange for being more competative in cqc

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that's what makes the bornheim match good for example

steel comet
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What makes bornheim match good is two tap potential and faster than dolch fire rate.

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Not really a thing schofield can do

quartz socket
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I mean generally the fact that its competative in cqc and also usable beyond 20 meters

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the scottfield obviously will never fire as fast but giving it more consistent 2hk and slightly better effective range would give a reason to use it over the cheapest sawed off rifle in the game

steel comet
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The niche of spam weapons is to spam bullets and win by spamming

quartz socket
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rapid fire /=/ spam

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levering is spam. bornheim extended is spam. dolch is spam. dualues are spam. 6 rounds that only 2hk on a double chest shot is not spam

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the bornheim is mostly good for headshot fishing anyways

steel comet
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Currently there's not much reason for pistols that aren't spam to exist.
You have shotguns with insane one hit kill ranges even in medium slot. You have medium slot rifles that outclasses pistols both cqc and long range thanks to higher damage, better fall off, better damage retention and better velocity.
Pistols that can spam will always have a use cause you can just spam people down.

quartz socket
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yeah sawed off rifles and shotguns are overtuned, but the nagant p and scotty p are just plain bad

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so bad that they are worse than any half-decent 1 slot

steel comet
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Well they weren't great before 2 slots got overturned

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Like I said, there's barely a reason not to run without qm right now. Pistols are not doing great unless you wanna grab new army/officer, dolch or bornheim

quartz socket
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which is why they should nerf 2 slot rifles and shotguns lmao

hot vigil
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Sure, but even pre-buffs, most 2-slot rifles were still better than Pistols Ps as soon you learned to play around the heavy sway.

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That said there were at least more of a reason to bring a Nagant P over a Vandal.

quartz socket
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YES THAT IS WHY I AM SAYING THEY SHOULD ALSO BUFF PISTOL Ps holy shit

hot vigil
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Yes, but no matter how you buff pistol ps they ain't gonna compete

steel comet
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Not sure there's a decent way to buff the precision. Rifle will always be better

hot vigil
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Simply just because rifles works on a fundamental level.

steel comet
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Theres already cracked precision in the game. Like dolch p

quartz socket
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'i dont know how they should buff it so they shouldn't buff it'

steel comet
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Schofield and nagant is designed to be the early game, low cost option

quartz socket
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yeah yall aren't even worth arguing with

hot vigil
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But I agree, nerfing rifle sway back to 133 (or at least 110-120), would give more of reason to bring a P variant.

steel comet
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I mean, I'm not against nerfing 2 slots all together. I think they are doing more harm than good

hot vigil
steel comet
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Not necessarily with you on the P part because of how the game works

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Rifle will always outclass pistols.
Higher damage, fall off, damage retention, velocity and some rifles even cycle faster

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Pistols could have use if rifles ran out of ammo, you could swap to a sidearm but even that is unnecessary in hunt showdown. Ammo box is meta

hot vigil
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Hitting the nail right on the head.
Basically we need to lower viability of "powerful" 3 and 2 slots to make 1 & 2 slots pistols matter again.

steel comet
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You can replenish all ammo by

  1. Swap weapons with dead hunters that match your own.
  2. Ammo box that stacks great with teams of 3, never ending ammo.
  3. World ammo boxes is common, especially if you fight around bosslair.
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The order is random,

hot vigil
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Honestly with the amount of diversity in custom ammo, 1 is kinda kept in check somewhat.
But like... just remove nerf the ammo box already lol.

steel comet
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Ammo box is the biggest offender to having low effort unlimited ammo

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Removal of rule of two made it even better

hot vigil
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Yet this was the responds to me asking too nerf the ammo box back in October.
It is tough to be this right and ahead of the curve all the time 👊😔

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steel comet
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It indirectly buffs special ammo too

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The gimmick of long ammo and special ammo is to have ammo problems

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Well that isn't happening

hot vigil
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Yeah, can't wait until people figure out how insane that the Berthy comes with 18 bullets and can resupply 10 bullets per ammo box if you split it.

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And oh yeah, it just got a fucking buff to damage and recoil

steel comet
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Berthys gimmick was split ammo, a bonus was the ammo resupply.
And then they just gave it more ammo

hot vigil
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Do I need to point out it now deals more damage than a lebel?

steel comet
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They buffed the damage?

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I missed that completely

hot vigil
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Oh yeah they did that this patch to "create a new weapon class of Carbines"

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WHICH WE STILL HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT MEANS!

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Sorry

steel comet
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Oh I completely missed that

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Think it's weapons like obrez match, berthier and... vetterli?

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Martini is technically a carbine in the game

hot vigil
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Who the fuck knows?!

steel comet
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Imma look up patch notes

hot vigil
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Obrez is a carbine, is Springfield? Vandal? Cenny Shorty????
Whatabout LeMat Carbine? The Officer?

steel comet
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Didn't expect an additional berthier buff

hot vigil
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Or just you know, THE Carbine 1865?

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Are those carbines?? In that case what the heck does it mean to be carbine????

steel comet
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I found the berthier buff

hot vigil
steel comet
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133 damage, kinda wild that it got higher damage

hot vigil
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And I'm not crazy, other people talked about it too

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steel comet
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Berthier was never bad, it doesn't need a buff

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Maybe a video? Or a reddit post?

quartz socket
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yeah the damage buff was completely unnecesary. before the ammo buff it was definitely outclassed but that alone put it on par with the other long rifles

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and the damage buff makes even less sense when you consider that the berthier fires the same rounds as the lebel from a shorter barrel but now does more damage than it lol

hot vigil
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These changes go hand-in-hand with a rebalance of the Berthier and Mosin Obrez and allows slotting the new Mosin Obrez Match and Sharpeye into the Long Ammo category. The Berthier will now be the strongest of the Carbines, while the base Obrez will be the weakest. We want to position these Carbines as more viable alternatives to the full-size, Long Ammo, bolt-action rifles, such as the Krag, Lebel, and Mosin Nagant.

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Source: March 21th (2025) Developer Insight.

quartz socket
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yeah I remember this it was so bizare

hot vigil
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They are literally just went "yeah, we added a new weapon class" and didn't elaborate lol

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Like... please tell us what makes a weapon a Carbine?

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And why is only relevant for long ammo rifles (we know why).

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And couldn't you find another word for it and not the carbine that is both used as a variant type AND as the name of a whole ass weapon (also Crytek PLEASE give the Carbine 1865 a real name)

rotund obsidian
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yeah 1865 carbine was a lazy ass name

steel comet
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Where it's always been dominating

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It just doesn't make any sense

hot vigil
steel comet
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Also completely unrelated to anything.
I missed this part too

"World

Guaranteed one custom Ammo Swap Box spawn at arsenals and watchtowers "

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So i can climb any watch tower and find a funny random special ammo box?

hot vigil
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Basically

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Think most people didn't think about that much bc it was event

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So it was just "oh so much custom ammo this event"

steel comet
hot vigil
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I guess they are scared of not being a real extraction shooters if there ain't no real gear fear if weapons are actually balanced.

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I mean this in the kindest way, but Crytek does strike me as a very insecure company that doesn't believe in their own product.

steel comet
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With how things have unfolded, I'm expecting next content patch to either buff mako in one way or another.
Or some other long ammo weapon

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Maybe they will nerf one thing about berthier but keep most of the buffs so it's still better than before the buffs..

hot vigil
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Honestly don't think we gonna see long ammo touched next patch, this all felt just as a "we need to justify the Mosin Match" and now it is out and dead on arrival, so now Crytek doesn't really have a need to change things.

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In the long ammo department

steel comet
rotund obsidian
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obrez match drum incoming

hot vigil
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Just reading their thoughtline

steel comet
rotund obsidian
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This knowledge is simply bestowed upon me, i am nothing but a messenger

quartz socket
hot vigil
steel comet
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It looked like work was put on it though, it wasn't just an obrez with a stock, there were amateur welding on it and other details 🤔

hot vigil
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Also low key, my conspiracy theory is that we got Mosin Match so Crytek can make a Mosin Match Silenced.

steel comet
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I wouldn't call that a conspiracy, I think that's the only way they can add a mosin silenced without it being as broken

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I'm waiting for the obrez match silenced to happen, its more likely than not

hot vigil
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Mosin Match Silenced Drum!

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Also dunno why, but I called Mosin Match over Obrez Match

quartz socket
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because the krag silencer would be straight up better

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just remove the obrez match it has no niche to fill

steel comet
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It got a skin so that feels unlikely

quartz socket
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I know 😦

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I seriously don't think anyone actually thought it was a good idea, likely just an attempt to appease the shareholders in a non-content focused update

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so I wouldn't worry too much about it

hot vigil
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With being a 130 damage silenced mosin

quartz socket
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it would be 127

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117

hot vigil
quartz socket
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yes

hot vigil
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That was a panic nerf

quartz socket
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yes

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but it is still there

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it should be reverted and they should find another way to nerf the krag silencer

hot vigil
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It would still be more damage than a silenced krag?

quartz socket
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just make it louder and have worse sway imo

quartz socket
hot vigil
quartz socket
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*worse velocity

hot vigil
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Better

quartz socket
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the obrez match is 55

hot vigil
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lol

quartz socket
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550

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the krag is 610

hot vigil
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No wait

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mb

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Yeah you right

steel comet
hot vigil
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I was looking at wrong stats

quartz socket
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yeah the obrez extended is that bad

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*obrez match I mean

steel comet
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Mosin obrez match

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Mosin match

quartz socket
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someone said 'hey we don't have any new content' so they threw together some scraps quickjly

hot vigil
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Naw I'm 100% sure the Mosin Carbine was an intentional addition too, again a set up for silenced mosin.

steel comet
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Same. It's awfully suspicious since we keep getting tons of silenced content

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Krag silenced, sparks pistol silenced, Maynard sniper silenced, specter carbine silenced

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Did I miss something?

hot vigil
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Chucker Crossbow I guess

steel comet
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Yeah

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Its definitely not the end

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To silenced variants

hot vigil
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Whole subsonic/silenced overhaull

steel comet
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Also a trait to spot silenced shots? That isn't subsonic

hot vigil
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Tho I do think it is the end for silenced for now.
Because god it haven't been well received.

steel comet
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I feel like crytek isn't afraid of pushing it still

hot vigil
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Dunno, then I don't think we'd gotten the 10% silence damage nerf.

steel comet
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Feels like a good excuse to add more silenced weapons

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And when you least expect it, they revert the nerf to silenced

hot vigil
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Eh, again this whole garden patch seems to be a big panic patch

quartz socket
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they BETTER revert the nerf

steel comet
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Maybe

quartz socket
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just do something to fix the krag sniper

hot vigil
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Krag sniper ain't the issue for silenced tho

steel comet
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Yeah, nagant silencer and bornheim silenced sitting there with miniscule damage

quartz socket
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sorry I mean krag silencer

hot vigil
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No worries

quartz socket
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dont even do 100 damage anymore 😦

hot vigil
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Like thet only way I can see this fixed is removing silenced krag and maynard

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And it would be a pain to re-do the krag skin, but not impossible

steel comet
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Ngl, nagant, winfield and sparks shouldve been the only silenced weapons

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Vetterli was the start of the issue

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A silenced rifle with good irons

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And then things kept getting added

hot vigil
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Oh yeah, it is so funny to see people bitch and moan about sights for years and then when the sight gets buffed people finally realize "oh wait that was what kept them in check!"

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And sure Vet silenced started the issue, but honestly Cenny Silenced was the true start of the issue

flat sandal
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Cant reply to that guy somehow #game-ideas message
I love these kind of ideas. Not sure why they are unpopular. Something like this even walkable, with a shooting range attached, with skins and deco stuff to buy and with the option to bring up the usual UI by pressing tab, would be sick. Basically like a customisable shooting range that you can start a cue from. Like, why not?

steel comet
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He left the server

flat sandal
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I see

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This style of interactable 3D environment as a UI would also already be better as it´s immediately intuitive

hot vigil
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It have its upsides and downsides

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Like it is cool

flat sandal
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add some social features, et voila. c`mon hunt

hot vigil
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but god it would make gearing up so much more longer

flat sandal
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you can just bring the UI up

hot vigil
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Would help for sure :)

flat sandal
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it`s optional but you can hang out with friends there and form groups

hot vigil
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For sure!

flat sandal
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anyways, just think it would be an actual new step for the game

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we already have the place next to the gulch^^

hot vigil
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Don't worry it have been a suggestion for years lol

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I'm starting out even smaller with having a little cinematic animation for getting into a match.

flat sandal
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when is the next event? I fried my PC with coffee and I`m not sure if I´m gonna make it^^

hot vigil
flat sandal
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any start at all would be fine

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Also wouldn`t mind to automatically land in the shooting range as it is with the option to bring up the ui

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as a start

frozen dome
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adding silencers to the safest and most damaging weapons in the game was a mistake

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meanwhile I can't kill a previously downed opponent with an Uppercut at medium range with a body shot

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thanks Crytek

flat sandal
flat sandal
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@spiral dust It could well still be a bug. I know BBs are a touchy subject and it was nice to be able to proper farm them but at the point where we unfortunately are now, I would honestly suggest to just ignore them and not even acknowledge this as a feature. Really ppl are getting upset becasue of 10 cent a week? what are we doing here?^^

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or rather incentive, not feature

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it's like the smallest carrot in the world and we are after it drooling? self respect anyone? 😄

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no offence^^

spiral dust
# flat sandal <@249431568567762945> It could well still be a bug. I know BBs are a touchy subj...

Oh, gaslighting someone who against the company the trying to F around by saying that they have not self-respect? What a wonderful approach 🤣
If defending yourself against BS that company trying to apply to you and being vocal about it means to you damaging self-respect - I will end this conversation here. If farming up to 30 weeks of challenges for a single skin is OK to you, it does not mean it is OK for others (and it is with 50 BBs per week not the 40 BBs as now, lmao).

flat sandal
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I said "we"

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talking to players as a whole

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and also was just trying to show a different perspective

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but if you think it is worth getting so upset about something so meaningless and small...

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the hyper focus of player communities on this kind of stuff these days is a problem and gives game companies some degree of power over us, making games wirse as a result. Just trying to educate every chance I get 😄

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or any time I can be bothered or am bored

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really nothing to get upset about either, just hink about it

spiral dust
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I don't think you understand how it works. Company starting with small BS and will increase it every time until you slaps it's hand.
If you ignore it, company thinks "Oh, they are ok with it, let's push some more".
I don't think that this is a coincidence to push out such BS at the end of event, when players having some rest from Hunt from grinding a BP. And not much players will notice it. They will just point on that "Look, there is not much negative feedback on it, players are good with it!" 🤣
"meaningless and small" - yeah, like 2-15 BBs per match, it is really small if you are not playing a lot game. But it was damaging the treatment to you main playerbase that playing game a lot.
First this one, then even removing 2 BBs for retiring 50 lvl hunter, then removing possibility to retire 25+ lvl hunter, which is damaging prestige system (which has a lot of problems on its own place).

I am playing Hunt from EA and back in days Crytek was not even thinking of F around with its own community. It was a feeling that Crytek was more open and was more closer to community, listening to their feedback, there were these events, not these BP with minimum changes, there were dev-streams where Crytek discussed upcoming updates and we with my Hunt-friends where gathering around to listen and discuss. There were even testing updates on the test server, lol, this and dev-streams are dead not for years. I missed old Crytek, not this one with 'GIME ME YOUR MANEY' priority.

flat sandal
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yes all true, the game has shifted into a monetising mode with all that stuff. what we can do as well though is not giving a shit about what is offered then and play a game because it's fun instead and if it isn'd don't play it, have a break play something that is. Buy BBs when it's fun and you feel like supporting your game. I'm afraid it's a loosing battle as the way the players have to look at this stuff has to change and we are sheep at the end of the day. All we can do is spread the word^^

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cause that exactly is what fuels all the enshittification of things, gullable consumers

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at the end of the day, you get less free skins. F 'em then. we have enough, i say. come up with some real incentive pls, ty

spiral dust
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I don't understand why this is a discussion in a first place 😄
This action from Crytek does not have a pros and cons - it is just straight bad. Yeah, it is miserable 10 BBs, but it is whole 20% of amount that you could previously earn.
This is not a 'Boohoo' moment because I will not buy some skin. I have pretty big collection of skins because was playing a lot previously and spend BBs every 1-2 months to buy some skin (and was not able to buy them all because Crytek produses them a lot, lol), and was buying every single DLC to support devs until the changes with removing BBs from acolytes.
I am vocal about this because this is just disgusting behavior from Crytek towards its community at first place.

marsh prism
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I don't get how crytek went from caring about it's game and community to being just another triple a studio milking money from their fans and making unreasonable balancing calls

marsh prism
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I do remember saying many times in 23 and 24 that hunt was the only relevant fps game at that time that didn't go full mainstream. We really lost something unique with august 15 2024 💔

narrow plank
latent geyser
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That BB change is genuinely weird, we already got less BBs from playing but in the sale time we got less opportunities to use them. So for now, we just have less for no reason...

flat sandal
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I think the change happened becasue they sat together and decided to hire people to change the monitisation strategy. I hate this as well. I just think the way out is to not give a shit about skins and BBs again, like probably most ppl didn't when starting to play. It also better for ones own well being and the energy is better spent to advocate for a game that is growing in scope and fun to play. Peronally that is when I feel like buying stuff. The BBs for challenges are really best ignored imo, it's nothing. They really should go back to farming BBs, there are enough skins to buy and it was anb actual incentive to play then felt good as it was directly related to performance. On the other hand the game has to make money, it's probably the wron approach though. Impossible to tell for us as the whole change came with other stuff that effected player count.

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I have advocated for this in the past loads as well. Getting into the trenches now on what is left is just wasted energy I think.

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Having ppl grind for 50 cents worth of BBs a week is just an insult really. Might as well slash it altogether.

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As I said, tiniest carrot in the world. Who's the fool then? No offence 😄

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it's us^^

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discussing it here is a good way to make our point know, that we want a better company as our go to dev. doesn' have to get personal

latent geyser
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Tbh the 50 BBs themselves held relatively well. Also because tributes could prove to be generous, but overall you only buy cosmetics for yourself, sometimes you'll die and people won't get to even find your body or juts burn you immediately. So a low amount centered mainly around the skins is fine.

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What's not is that it got reduced and so far we have no infos as to why it's like this, 1 week later. It appeared to be intentional, so perhaps something else is being worked on, but there will have to be a good excuse for that, because the original BB reduction was already not easy to swallow while it had reasons, this one without clearly doesn't pass.

flat sandal
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we'll see, it wouldn't be te first time that bugs don't get addressed for a while, be it communicating or fixing it. if it's a bug the compensation usually was fair though.

latent geyser
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Well, as of now, it appears to not be a bug. Which is... concerning to say the least.

urban night
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servers down?

vernal schooner
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Куди писати щоб зробили українську локацію

surreal vale
white plover
flat sandal
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was thinking about hit some more. basically there is an average per player time amount of money that has to be generated just to keep the servers running, employ people for maintenance and feed steam, we don't know how much that is at all. On top of that we want further development and better server which would mean that hunt has to make quite a bit more on top if that. I don't think the old system was necessarily better from a company moral standpoint, it may have been just naïve or the free stuff was meant to draw people in to the skin system (it's so hard not to say it^^) but money that had to make as well. Now I don't find that, sitting together and making a decision to change the system, is such a bad idea if your gol is to further develop and have better servers. It doesn't have to be greed, we simply don't know and assume the worst. Last people to blame are those hired to do what has been decided.

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just reeeealy wish it wasn't a battlepass grind. why do so many people seem to find it engaging? 😄

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and there the sad part is that it doesn't have to be even many but "money" (hihi). anyway^^

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let's say there are 30000 concurrent player on avarage. What is everyones best guess how much the servers cost per month?

keen crest
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Loving these game Ideas!
The Upper Mat and the Uppercut Chain is definitely what we are missing ingame rn some one ping a def

delicate radish
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Dear Crytek. When you add DirectStorage? and i want in game MSAA anti aliasing.

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And of couse... Legendary shovel!

visual nova
orchid violet
unborn dagger
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@stable bluff No the hell not, it's more spam, more frag, and more bleed with homing projectiles on top of that. That shit does not deserve to come back ever.

dire bloom
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Fog has just gotta go.

abstract flare
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I don't understand how Crytek can be silent on so many issues. It's infuriating that this is like the only game they have that's making them any money, and they're just sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I'm in servers where I have 20 ping but everyone is stuttering 20 minutes in, all at the same time. I've had servers just crash and kick everyone back to the main menu with the match's XP reset prior to queueing. Now I'm having games where shots seem to just vanish into thin air, and a guy from South America somehow killing me with a headshot by shooting through an entire compound's floor WITH AN ARROW with no gaps. WTF is happening to this game?

blazing vigil
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I’ve been playing this game for awhile and the last week or so for ping/latency/weird lack of headshot-despite being drilled on their forehead is really pushing me away. Real shame as I love this game.

mystic basin
glacial rose
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It's amazing that Crytek has really put a stop to cheating... just purely amazing!! great job Crytek!!!

unborn dagger
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@atomic niche the chaos bomb does do that iirc when I tested it in the shooting range but I definitely think the range should be increased though.

river basin
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Hey Crytek, why the hell is my teammate floating in the air? GREAT GAME👍🏻

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queen jungle
crystal plume
queen jungle
queen jungle
unborn dagger
queen jungle
unborn dagger
queen jungle
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Sorry that I want an actual fun game like old hunt:)

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U guys are just too blind to see it

unborn dagger
queen jungle
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I did actually like a lot of other people that only want what’s good for the game

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But keep ignoring us and itll just die soon👌🏼

latent geyser
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It’s not that the devs ignore the playerbase ; it’s simply that they’re working on whatever they’re doing rn and don ́t have it ready to show to the public yet. They don’t have any reason to tell anyone exactly what they’re doing, and no studio does that to begin with either way.

queen jungle
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In hindsight yes but it also sounds like a lame excuse- Crytek just makes false promises..they’ve stated so many things in the past and have yet to show for it..I’ll know it when I see it

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They NEED to work on what’s more important- for everyone’s enjoyment and to balance it

vague mauve
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they NEED to work on the lag. Always fun to walk over train tracks only to rewind and do it all over again....

unborn dagger
latent geyser
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I ́d prefer if they released patches between events instead of just sending the whole batch only for events tho.

queen jungle
latent geyser
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They used to do that, even just big updates that brought 2/3 things and fixes that were not event related. But I think they stopped that since ToS.

unborn dagger
latent geyser
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Also makes event updates take less time.

queen jungle
queen jungle
queen jungle
latent geyser
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GotW was still a sign of goodwill, just hope the next time will be in the same way.

queen jungle
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It was a..small goodwill it’s nothing too big but it’s a step in the right direction I suppose- yeah really hope the next upcoming changes will actually do smthn

latent geyser
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If the stars get aligned, there should be DeSalle this time.

queen jungle
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Yup🥲

craggy yarrow
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@mystic lantern because they never made a system for it and are too lazy to make one.

And sorry: but yes. I mean lazy. It’s not about cross platform because a console player can appear in a random PC lobby; it’s about laziness.

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And they’ve already confirmed cross platform from steam to PC gamepass, so yeah, they can totally put some time in and do it.

wet wing
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I wish this game had its DLC on sale more often. I managed to snag a bundle last one they had, but I’m not paying for nearly a full price indie game just for some cosmetic skins and only selected weapon skins. Just a cash grab.

Don’t get me wrong, they look dope asf! But seriously Crytek…fs.

queen jungle
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I do agree tho that they should have dlc sales more often

deep finch
dense trout
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BRUHHHHHHHHH

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quartz socket
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#feedback message
actually, you're missing a lot of what makes the centennial good:

  1. the fire rate difference is like 0.08 seconds (1.33 vs 1.41 from testing at 60 fps)
  2. the damage drop is significant but people overstate the importance of the 125 breakpoint
  3. a ~48% increase in velocity is not to be understated, as velocity is one of the most important stats in hunt
  4. it also has much lower drop range
  5. while the firerate is technically slower, the iron sights move much less during the animation, allowing for easier follow-up shots
  6. levering is viable on it now
atomic niche
vital hinge
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Im curious who thinks removing quater master would be a good Idea. Balance is important, as someone who has only played for a month and reached 4.5 mmr I must say quatermaster seems to break the game. Why am i wrong?

hot vigil
vital hinge
# hot vigil QM is important to make weapons like the bow, bomblance and bomblauncher viable....

I feel like all the weapons could use a bit more bullet velocity, maybe just have 2 slot weapons bullet velocity reduced. bomblance and bomb laucher have too much ammo and need a nerf themselves. disregarding your enemies cover is as viable as a bomb launcher should be. a pistol for backup and having that ability is more then enough. The bomblances ability to 1 hit in cqb through melee or projectiles is definitely viable enough. The bow, bomblance, and bomb launcher are all extraordinary weapons when properly used. They should not be able to rock another primary.

hot vigil
vital hinge
hot vigil
vital hinge
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yeah i dont know. The primary weapon you choose should determine how you approach engagements. Having something for every situation is kinda crazy. quatermaster should be too expensive to use on a hunter right off the bat. like 12 points to use or something

hot vigil
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But it being the next follow up for sure hurts

vital hinge
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im just gonna say that the cost of all perks and how many you can select should be reevaluated

hot vigil
# vital hinge that combo should only be available after like 2 successfully extracted games. s...

Well I don't think that is gonna help much and just create two issues:

  • People with 75 hunters parked obtain insane amount of trait points from dailies, so they just gonna field QM hunters outta the gate anyways.
  • It being more rare, doesn't make it feel less BS when you die to it. Hunt should be about taking educated risks and dying to "they just had enough trait points" ain't great. I know that is how many traits works, but it is about making at least polarizing as possible imo.
vital hinge
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necro should be 8, quatermaster should be 12, resilience should be 5-10ish.

vital hinge
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and one day all those 75 hunters will die

hot vigil
vital hinge
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plus you could just do a point reimbursement so the old hunters have to reaquire their desired perks with the new corresponding values

hot vigil
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Also resilence shouldn't cost more, it should be baked into the core kit.

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Only way you wont pick resilence as your first pick is if it cost 11 points or more lol

vital hinge
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getting chunks back should be limited to scarce burn traits and banishing bounties

hot vigil
hot vigil
vital hinge
hot vigil
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But it doesn't get chunks back

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And it is so mandatory it feels like you ain't playing hunt without it.

vital hinge
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thats real. that one could stay on the cheaper side... for some reason i though it brought chunks back... I like fanning/levering so resiliance can suck it

vital hinge
hot vigil
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Fanning and levering is sadly not very good atm, unless you are levering a termie

hot vigil
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You already have bad odds when your team-mate goes down, that rez needs to at least have a chance to get them back in the game

inland kayak
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Fanning is goated

vital hinge
austere heart
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I don't get resilience 'cause I like to live dangerously

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Give me vulture instead money all day babyyyyy

vital hinge
hot vigil
inland kayak
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I haven't played this game in so long that I don't even remember the perks

vital hinge
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I love the game as it is, deep down i know it could be better. Just not sure how. Its a solid vibe... nothing else like it

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i need desalle, the western vibe is what everybody loves. how could they deny us that treasure

queen jungle
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From what I was told theyre “trying their best” to make these changes so I’m only hoping that’s true

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Nerf shotguns as well and everything will be 10x better than it is now

vital hinge
queen jungle
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They should focus on what’s at stake rather than what they think is right

queen jungle
vital hinge
queen jungle
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It is

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It makes the game a lot more…cancerous with ammo types imho

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especially with the amount of campers in this game bleed and poison are so fuckin stupid

vital hinge
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my experiance has only been diminished by people using them, but they exsist so what am i gonna say

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the only special ammo that should exist is incendiary and dumdum. all the other stuff is only cool in theory. but you should have to find and buy those bullets from somewhere on the map with something similar to event points

queen jungle
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That’s even more detrimental to the community

queen jungle
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And fmj shouldn’t even be a thing either cus guns can already pen without it as is…I find it stupid that guns can’t pen without fmj unless ur using long ammo

vital hinge
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look at me i just got shot in the chest and missed my bomblance shot... let me chase you until you decide to turn around and not even get a shot off...

queen jungle
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I mean obviously if we’re talking realism…but in a game where shotguns are already heavy in the meta as is..? Idt so

queen jungle
vital hinge
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dumdum ammo should just have an escalated initial status

queen jungle
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So ur saying any gun in general should cause bleed by default..? And dumdum increases the bleeding rate? Or?

vital hinge
queen jungle
vital hinge
queen jungle
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I mean in hindsight yeah that would make more sense

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But this is crytek we’re talking about so..

vital hinge
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I have zero expectations. but I can say this is the first game in years that I will get 100% achievements completed on. only 5 to go... They did something right

queen jungle
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so do I

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I have no expectations that crytek will learn from their mistakes

vital hinge
queen jungle
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I hope they get on their ass about making vital changes tho

queen jungle
vital hinge
queen jungle
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They promised ages ago maybe 2ish years that they would fix MMR and all they’ve been doing is filler patches

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and slight bug changes that weren’t even that bad

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They said they fixed server issues across all regions- and no theirs still heavy delay and hit reg

vital hinge
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Everyone in this feedback channel if u scroll up- has been complaining about server issues and hit reg

vital hinge
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seems like hit reg/mv go hand in hand... lag wouldnt help at all thats for sure

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it took me a long time to learn proper engagement distances based upon the weapon being used. i could see peoples lack of experience causing frustration

queen jungle
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I have a funny story of a guy i shot 4 times with a nitro shredder from like 30-40m and got no hit markers- even tho I quite literally hit the body.. and he was standing still

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vital hinge
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It happens wayy too often bro

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And it’s obnoxious

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Same with shotguns tbh- slugs don’t register half the time

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At least for me

vital hinge
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it happens alot, but then i remember, i also get the shakes. my adrenaline pumps, sometimes i gotta pee. there are factors relative to perspective that affect individual performance that will never be acknowledged

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ive never got a hit with slugs... partially because I prefer to rip heads off with buckshot

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I only get adrenaline pumps if I’m in like a precarious situation or pinched between teams and my duo is down

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vital hinge
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its just hard to say that all the blame is on the devs inabilty to provide a solution that may or may not be a problem. Only being able to play with people on my side of the country or world is a huge problem for the playerbase... that cannot be denied

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I’m not saying it’s entirely their fault

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But most of it is

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it’s their job to balance and maintain their game..

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And then yet they have little to show for it

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They are slowly stepping in the right direction tho- Gotw patch notes and changes were somewhat good

vital hinge
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change their game??? Make people come back to see that they’ve done shit to make the game better

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eve online is notoriously hated and did better in the market

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with a monthly subscription model

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this game is super niche. I wish it was appealing to a more broad audience. it just isnt

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vital hinge
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a casual western themed escape from tarkov with zombies... it should have been a hit

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Mmmhmmm

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It’s just a difficult game tbh compared to most fps games..so it really does discourage a ton of ppl

vital hinge
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give me more more bullets and 5x more zombies. and it could be more appealing... people love the chaos, I say add more

queen jungle
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Yeah:/

vital hinge
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firefights should be interrupted by 5 or 10 monsters regularly. not every once in a blue moon

queen jungle
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I mean it’s not uncommon for AI to interrupt fights

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I’ve had plenty of situations where AI fuck over a lot of people and allows me to push em

vital hinge
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the most grunts ive seen on me at once is like 6 or 7

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vital hinge
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i think everyone would universally agree we need more E in the pvevp

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I say more diversity in AI..it’s lame that theirs like only 5 types of AI or some shit

vital hinge
queen jungle
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Yeah

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At the end of the day, searching a compound for needed supplies/clues should be scary AF. not a boring chore youd rather not do

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hence bounty clash

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U will need to go for supplies either way..cus half the gunfights u will encounter will leave u with a little over a mag

vital hinge
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bringing an ammo box means ill never run out. even after using it to kill bosses.

queen jungle
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Yeah

vital hinge
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i wish it was a problem

queen jungle
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It is a problem depending on what u run

vital hinge
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if playing on a trio I don't think it wouldn't be too crazy to have someone's role be clearing out aggroed zeds/mobs.