feedback-discussion

[storm pendant]

It sometimes feels like you take people not liking your suggestion as a personal attack. I go out of my way to ask follow up questions to understand better

Have a gn man, sleep well

[flat sandal]

projection!

sorry

that was in a judge kind of tone

like, objection?

couldnt help it

[storm pendant]

“Projection” is the redditor way of saying no u. Objection means you have a counterpoint

[flat sandal]

no it's a thing

[storm pendant]

I know what psychological projection is. I very much wasn’t doing that

Wrong reply again

[flat sandal]

okay that's good

you and me both 😄

[storm pendant]

I never said you were projecting but ok, thanks for clarifying ig 👍

[flat sandal]

I mean I don't take it personally. why would you even think that? 😉

[storm pendant]

@visual anchor Most people are shocked to know samurais existed at the same time this game takes place, though most had transitioned to using guns

[median zephyr]

#game-ideas message i do want more ways to blow concertina or doors, however this kinda just does what decoy fuses do but worse? id almost rather just make decoy fuses better at doors

[storm pendant]

Pretty much the same sentiment I had. The only thing you could really do w/ this is use it to make alert killtraps

[storm pendant]

@visual anchor I don’t like the mask tho

[visual anchor]

It's more of just the armor. The picture is to give an idea

[storm pendant]

Yeah I’m down for a samurai cowboy. It’s not historically implausible

[storm pendant]

@paper belfry amen

[storm pendant]

@agile pelican It's not quite a crown variant, but CULTIC has a browning auto 5 sawed off

[agile pelican]

I would love that tbh, C&K compact

[storm pendant]

I wouldn't, tbh. I already find people pulling pocket shotguns out of their ass a little annoying and the Crown and Slate in particular are the last things we need to have a compact variant

could you imagine crown compact slug

[agile pelican]

Yeah but reduced mag size

Three shells in semiauto

[storm pendant]

I would still say hard no

Crown is stupid good, doesn't need a pocket version

[agile pelican]

Okay but what about a melee weapon? Like a talon or bayonet?

[storm pendant]

Honestly it's such an expensive and temperamental gun that I would not think that would work, also where are ya gonna stick the bayonet kinda deal

I guess you could weld it on but then you've got a piece of metal welded to your supremely expensive shotgun, noone would do that

We already have melee variants covered on shotguns I feel, romero even has 2 of them

[agile pelican]

If the japanese imperial army has taught me anything, there is nowhere you cannot put a bayonet

[storm pendant]

While this is true, I don't think this would be the move.

Tell ya what, I'm gonna go look up modified browning auto 5s and other shotguns for the era and see if I can find anything interesting

Belgian police used a modified Auto-5 with an 8 round tube.

That's an option

Definitely doesn't need it, would probably be OP as hell though

[agile pelican]

YES

Fkn go for it

[storm pendant]

Balance is imortant my friend

[agile pelican]

Balance Schmalance, get it in the game and then nerf the C&K

[storm pendant]

Idk what about "Crown and King Feedbacker", a variant that fires 2 shots in rapid succession but has longer fire delay between each burst

[agile pelican]

Full auto variant that dumps its entire mag with one pull of the trigger

Vastly increased spread, allowing you to pepper an entire room, but then you have to reload

[storm pendant]

Fun fact those are called burpguns

That sounds awful for both parties

[agile pelican]

Continuing the trend of automatic weapons in this game being scary, bombastic, and next to useless

[storm pendant]

I genuienly can't think of a good idea for a crown variant that isn't just "one of the best guns in the game, but better"

[agile pelican]

Well then make it worse, and then give it variants IDK

Also shame on you for implying that there's a better shotgun than the base Romero 77

[storm pendant]

Romero talon is my favorite shotgun but in 90% of situations the crown is just better

[thin remnant]

@upbeat slate "sticky dynamite"

Makes no sense, why can't you throw it

[glacial gyro]

ahright just posted my idea

[storm pendant]

Exactly, how is it better at anything than dynamite? It's just a dynamite you have to manually walk up, place, light, that has less AoE and does the same dmg

Just like... throw a dynamite at the door

[thin remnant]

its a two-use tool that can be detonated from range and, i presume, used as a trap with alert tripmines.

im not saying it makes no sense balance wise, but physics-wise, can your hunter just not figure out that you can throw things? but all of a sudden with a regular one he throws it?

[storm pendant]

It's not up my alley personally

Not a fan

[thin remnant]

@cursive cypress why so many points? doesnt sound that good

[storm pendant]

@cloud cove as much as I like the idea of new melees, the katana already covers that niche. It'd just end up being bloat. I'd rather see a skin for it

[blissful jackal]

most people have on thier profiles

[thin remnant]

no blunt damage ig

[storm pendant]

Eh

We have plenty of blunt weapons

[thin remnant]

the only blunt + sharp is kk tbf

[sand kiln]

Bat, Hammer

[thin remnant]

those are just blunt.

[storm pendant]

We also technically have the mako claw

[thin remnant]

eh, not really a melee though

[sand kiln]

Mako claw

[storm pendant]

Idk if we need another combination weapon or another sword

2 swords, 2 blunts, 1 combo tool

If we got a big combo melee that doubles as a sword and a bat, why use anything else

[sand kiln]

Talon and Bayonets do blunt and slash/pierce too

[storm pendant]

true but out of the gun variants the mako claw is the only one that does both respectably well

[sand kiln]

Yeah

It's really good

[storm pendant]

Have fun light attacking an immo to death with a talon, hope you don't miss one of those 8 hits!

Mako claw is sick I just wish the mako wasn't the definition of "eh"

[crystal plume]

Mako is a weird one because statistically it's basically the worst long ammo pick but despite that whenever I pick it I seem to be getting way more headshots than usual I guess the sights make up for the worse stats

[storm pendant]

I don't like the sights very much, I think the buckhorn is a little obstructive, but it does feel nice to use if not a bit sluggish

Shutting down a Sparks Sniper solo who I told "hey man if you're solo you can have a bounty", who then proceeded to try and chase me to extract anyway, felt very good with the Mako

[thin remnant]

mako is explosive ammo cannon

funny explosive gun

[unborn dagger]

I dunno man, mako claw is like the worst melee variant they could have ever made

[storm pendant]

Take it BACK

It's shit against ppl though it's only good for AI

But you equip mako claw and suddenly you have a free melee slot unless you're a meta slave and use only spear

[unborn dagger]

I just genuinely just wish it had been a talon imo

[storm pendant]

We have plenty of talons, I think a dedicated PvE melee variant is fine

[unborn dagger]

Yeah but I like the Mako and the Mako Claw's skin

[storm pendant]

I don't see how that is contradictory

Mako just needs to be less underwhelming in PvP and the mako claw will be a great option for freeing up a tool slot

[unborn dagger]

Not imo, you really need a good CQC weapon if you don't have something like fanning, levering, or even quartermaster.

[storm pendant]

Most people have at least one of those after first extract

[unborn dagger]

True, on second thought, I take that back, we have the pennyshot Derringer

[storm pendant]

In other words, if you have at least one of those, you're golden

[storm pendant]

It's aight, I don't like it much tho

[unborn dagger]

You need to be very close up

[storm pendant]

Yea I know, I just don't dig it as much as just having a melee or some other close range option

with a melee or bullet, if ya hit you hit, but witht he pennyshot you can deal wildly varying damage based on just a couple meters distance

It is good but not to my taste

[coarse isle]

is there a more effective way to report cheaters other than in game or in steam? this china player just did some very blatant aimbot and dude has over 130 comments on his steam all calling him a cheater. I have video

[storm pendant]

Weird channel to be asking but you can record clips and send it to crytek support directly. It may take a month or two depending on the quality of the clip but at the very least you can paint a target on that guy's head.

!report

[marsh garden]

If you would like to report a player, you can do so on the Team Details tab on your Match Summary screen. It is also accessible in the Last Match tab at any time. If you have additional proof you would like to provide, you can find out how to reach out to official support here: #customer-support

Please note that you can still report people even if you don't have their SteamID by providing your own SteamID, time of the incident with a time zone and region. Hiding statistics/profiles does not prevent reporting.

[coarse isle]

whats the proper channel

[storm pendant]

Just #hunt-general but I can give you the lowdown here

Get their steam ID or your Steam ID and make it very clear that is it your steam ID if you do so

Get region, time zone, link to profile, clip

Hiding statistics doesn't prevent you from reporting but it does make it impossible to get their steam ID and thus it'll take longer for them to ban

Silly system but it is what it is

[coarse isle]

okay, thank you sir

[storm pendant]

And remember to be patient, don't check back every single day. Depending on quality of your evidence it can take a long time

It's a small team of people manually reviewing with pretty dogshit anti cheat tools

If you're really unlucky you can have evidence and homes still won't get banned, not much you can do in that scenario. SOmetimes your evidence just isn't enough to convict

Reported a guy who was acting unbelievably sus but because he wasn't blatantly aimlocking onto me and headshotting me through concrete walls he didn't get banned yet. It's only been about 20 days, though

[coarse isle]

oh and also he was boosting somebody

a rank 1

[flat sandal]

just report and move on with your life really. Let the team handle the rest^^

[coarse isle]

aye aye captain

[flat sandal]

they have a task force 😮

let the task force handle the rest

I imagine they have a control room like nasa

and uniforms

the leader standing in front of the big screens has an eye patch

[coarse isle]

ight bud

[flat sandal]

dont worry the strike team is already on the way

[untold saffron]

Widening range for 5/6* matchmaking just makes ppl who dont belong in those matches purposely derank/play less. I get if its a temporary solution for queue times in high mmr until 2.0 but hopefully not going to continue

[blissful jackal]

agree

i dont know how many 6 star players im running into that play like 4 stars and worse

[burnt gyro]

Add a fucking solo only mode already

[empty oasis]

Solo only bounty hunt has been tried in the past and didn't work out so well

Otherwise, you have Soul Survivor

[thin remnant]

🟡 --> 🔴

[lethal ledge]

• Custom lobbies so people can make their own matches with Friends and tournaments so small communities can enjoy themselves also this can impulse the competitive in hunt.
• Making it competitive? this last one should be one of the major Focus, because is this can be a sports the player base will grow

[sand kiln]

!plans

[marsh garden]

Confirmed to be coming on August 15th:
Cryengine 5.11 update (DX12, FSR, DLSS, Direct Storage, HDR)
New map - Mammon's Gulch, interview about it here
New wild target - Hellborn, article about it here
New event - Scorched Earth, more information here
Complete UI overhaul
Recruitment and prestige changes
Game design changes (trait adjustments, stalemate prevention, bullet drop)
Audio improvements
Backend improvements
Other:
Server-side improvements
Team voice chat
Fair Play Task Force
New modes and custom lobbies are considered for 2024

[sand kiln]

^

[lethal ledge]

Maybe a block in the melee system ? So closed combat can be more fun

[unborn sandal]

With the way hit registration works in this game that would look so wonky. I think it would just cause a lot of frustration

[thin remnant]

@hybrid forum revolving rifle would be better than the LeMat C as a rifle but without a shotgun right?

Btw I like the idea but if medium gets a buff which I think it should id lower the mv to like 395 or cut 400

Although, bullet drop will give compact and medium more differences

[golden atlas]

Due to recent events I think it would be nice if trying to charge a riposte attack would actually interrupt the reloading process and do a stab instead of the reload going on while a c&k is being emptied into me

[hybrid forum]

in my opinion it would have lower velocity than lemat c, less ammo, no shotgun, but would fire faster, be medium ammo, and have a faster reload

also it's technically chambered in a round a bit biger than nagant's

so the damage could be lowered

[thin remnant]

And when drop hits, compact will have much more use

[hybrid forum]

at first I wanted to give it bare 300, but in bf1 it has 420 m/s

[thin remnant]

Imo medium needs a buff, and then id make the ms 390-400 but it's good to base suggestion stats on what we have, Im just rambling dw

[thin remnant]

One more question, do you know if with the damage you suggested it can two tap anywhere or arms etc and if o-c can

[hybrid forum]

I don't know much about breakpoints tbh

[thin remnant]

Do you think it should

[hybrid forum]

I don't think it should 2 tap arms at the very least

[thin remnant]

Current stats 2 arm hits does about 71 damage.

An arm then upper body shot will kill at very close range, I don't believe an arm and a lower body shot will.
Two lower body shots will kill.

I can't be bothered to calculate this but obv a leg then lower body will not kill.

Officer-c cannot kill arm and upper torso if I'm not mistaken

[hybrid forum]

@thin remnant I've just realized that I can technically also suggest howdah, and since more people request it, more chances it will get added

[thin remnant]

Go ahead but you can't copy paste

[chrome oyster]

@short silo it would be great if the MMR curve actually updated weekly or something with the players over the last week

[short silo]

It have to be like this

[winter canopy]

the matchmaking is realy fucked ... wwe are playing four stars duos against six stars trios ... how can this be fair... i play this game now more than 1800 hr. and it never made this less fun. i am realy sry but i am not even excited about the new map. thinking about quitting this game and start playing space marine 2

[lethal ledge]

The thing is You are to good thats why the mmr is pretty high for you

[storm pendant]

Ew no. That would just draw fights out

#game-ideas message

I’m confused. Is this referring to bundles? Dark tributes? If you’re suggesting loot boxes that’s a big no

@el.spooky

[storm pendant]

Designing games to be esports does not automatically cause the game to grow and can actually turn a lot of people away if the devs start changing balancing things around only competitive play

[storm pendant]

@normal reef Tbh they just need to make it a 2 slot again

[normal reef]

Idk man, I think it making it a high value weapon that costs a lot would be cool and a good design choice for melee weapons

[river zephyr]

or hurry up and add the other melee weapons to the martialist trait to where they can compete with it

[normal reef]

There shouldn’t be this many katanas in the bayou

[storm pendant]

Even w/ martialist there’a never a reason to use anything but the katana

Maybe the baseball bat but very rarely

[normal reef]

Yeah I can’t remember the last time I was killed by a machete, railroad hammer, or ax

[storm pendant]

Hell I’ve only seen 2 sabers in the bayou. I only run the saber with the intent to trade up

Because of nostalgia not because it’s optimal

[normal reef]

I forgot the saber existed lmao

[storm pendant]

The only reason to run another melee is because you are going out of your way to not run katana

[normal reef]

Yeah katana needs to be nerfed lol

[river zephyr]

Before katana I used to run the machete for style points. It was worse than the saber, of course, but not by SO much that I couldn't still have some fun with it. Now, with the katana around (especially at 1-slot) it comes off as just a liability to your team if you take it, that's how far down the hole of obscurity it's fallen

katana's only competition now is the throwing spear, and for good reason. Both could use a nerf of some kind if they're not going to buff the other melee weapons back to being viable.

[median zephyr]

the throwing spear has some easy strings to pull to nerf it, but for katana, i cant think of a way to nerf it, making it more expensive doesnt affect tons of players, so balancing by price is bad, and no matter what you do you cant really nerf its dmg or range much, bc a whole sword cant have as much range as like, a machette or anything, so its rough

like basically no matter what you do itll be the best melee weapon still, barring some insane change

[storm pendant]

@median zephyr Those frustrations are intended. Bow, crossbow, etc might be genuinely OP if you could just clip someone's arm and deal full dmg because one pixel of the arrow/bolt touched their torso

[thin remnant]

As a special weapon enjoyer, 100%

It also actually encourages people to aim for the head, lest you get armshots.

[storm pendant]

Same, I'm big into crossbow and hand crossbow, still think this would be an invariably bad change

[thin remnant]

Bow headshots are juicy asf

[storm pendant]

Bow is already insanely strong it definitely does not need help\

[thin remnant]

Why didn't you dislike it btw

[storm pendant]

Phazing blocked me

[thin remnant]

Eh, I wouldn't say insanely strong, but it's definitely good

Insanely strong is like, dolch and crown and mosin

[storm pendant]

As someone who used to reliigously run the bow whenever I could run a 2 slot, I disagree, but you're obv entitled to an opinion

It's like a hand crossbow with half the reload time

The only downside is that you can't just pull it out of your pocket and instantly fire it which tbh is not a huge downside if you know how to use it

[thin remnant]

Well, the movement speed reduction while drawing is a BIG turnoff for some

And it's a medium slot

And has arguably worse special ammo types

(up to debate)

[storm pendant]

Compared to the power you get, I really don't see it as much of a tradeoff. Bow was always just a no brainer before I made the active choice to stop running it, it doesn't even require a full charge to kill to chest up close

Just mostly full

[thin remnant]

Would you nerf it?

[storm pendant]

I don't know, honestly.

It's in a weird spot where it's cheesy and the power you get is bonkers but it's got enough holding it back that you could argue it either way.

[thin remnant]

It is strange, it seems that it depends on the user

If the right person uses it, they either suck or wipe the lobby

Barely an in between yes?

[storm pendant]

I think one day the sweats will figure out how strong the bow is and it'll become a bigger issue but for now the problems it poses are limited to little rat solos or people who bait their team for kills

[thin remnant]

Or people who use it because it's funny lol

[storm pendant]

It's just really hard to push a bow, frankly, the "reload" time is so quick that you kinda have to have a 1 hit kill weapon or get a headshot

And if you throw a nade they'll just set up around the next corner and you have the same issue

It's not great for offense but it shuts down most pushes with no problem

[thin remnant]

Ah, I use it for offense so that probably explains a large portion of the discrepancy between our opinions

[storm pendant]

I'm always running solo, it's definitely usable for offensive play but its true strength is its insane ability to shut down pushes

I've wiped so many confident trios who would have probably had me if I had any other weapon aside from a repeating shotgun

Sometimes wiping trios who I wouldn't have even killed with shotguns

[thin remnant]

I wouldn't mind doing something to nerf that but then also lower the movement speed loss when drawn to promote a more aggressive playstyle

I don't think an outright nerf or buff is needed tho

[storm pendant]

Idk what to do with it, like I said we'd have to see the sweats deciding to stop praying to the church of long ammo bolt action rifles before it would become prolific enough to warrant taking a look at

But if you watch 6* players who run the bow religiously it's definitiely noticeable just how strong the bow becomes in the right hands

[median zephyr]

#game-ideas message for the record i have 0 issues with the bow or crossbow, however since shotbolt already exists, and we dont see much of it, i dont think itd be op, and id like to see more weapons like this to encourage variety, as apposed to just slug shotguns over and over bc they have limb penetration and can be used at a distance much easier

[storm pendant]

I see plenty of crossbows in high level play, shotbolt isn't as used because of its harsher drop, it's mostly used to get wallbangs. Base crossbow bolt having limb pen would more than likely be too much.

Regular bolt also has heavy bleed the second it touches your body, so even if you don't get a kill that is an immense amount of pressure and often times a kill secured regardless, especially if they're out of position

[storm pendant]

@hybrid forum As much as I love revolving rifles, we've already got 2 of them and it's hard to imagine a double action revolver with more shots than the officer and biggr ammo wouldn't overshadow some of the existing options

Just worried about bloating the sandbox, we're already running into guns like the mako that don't really serve a purpose and are released to a resounding "meh"

[keen minnow]

@normal reef I think to raise the price of a katana to $500 or more is a bit too much, and will prevent players from picking that weapon overall just like myself. The reason why that katana is so good is because it now uses up just 1 slot, the speed with the trait Matialist and range of the slash.
I personally use the katana in all of my loadouts and am more than happy as how things are right now. However, IF there has to be a change with the katana, i'd say to change it back to 2 slot use and maybe increase the martialist trait to 3 points instead of 2.
Agreed it is the king of the melee weapons, but therefore you need to pay a bit extra and use the trait martialist to exceed it further from other melee weapons. But to raise the price of the Katana by that much, i dont think it's worth that much. I'd simply will would change my loadouts to get the same effect. Which is possible.

[thin remnant]

Me want pax carbine

Finishes the trilogy:

Fast (Officer)
Versatile (LeMat)
Powerful (Pax)

[storm pendant]

Fair

I'm just starting to get worried about the sheer amount of guns in the game, I wonder how long it will be before all the firearms they add just feel like "x but better/worse" like the mako

[thin remnant]

One of the reasons I want more weapons like the lance

But does this mean you dislike all gun suggestions?

I agree gun suggestions should always be careful with balancing and overshadowing/being overshadowed

[storm pendant]

Depends on how unique they are and how much they stand out from what we have already, but in general yeah I don't care much for gun suggestions

Especially if it's almost exactly like something we have already, like the endless Winchester 1895 suggestions which is just a slightly remodeled mako with a stripper clip

Or the people wanting a lee enfield

Yeah those guns are cool but we have guns that would do exactly what they do

[storm pendant]

@light flame I like the idea of an incentive for going for the gauntlet like a 10% XP increase for your hunters to encourage more fights, but being able to choose a burn trait is too stronk

[thin remnant]

and we dont want people extracting as soon as they see its a single boss

[storm pendant]

Also true, though I'd also be fine with increasing single boss token reward like 5% if we were going to increase gauntlet by 10%, just so it's a bit more even.

In theory you're more likely to fight more people and therefore get more XP to make up the difference

[normal reef]

Fair enough, maybe making it a 2 slot and having a price range around $300-$400 would be more balanced

[storm pendant]

One or the other tbh, requiring quartermaster or to take a 2 slot is nerf enough and frankly is the way it should have stayed to begin with

I still dont' know why they decided to make the Katana the only viable melee other than the lance

[thin remnant]

Don't make katana a 2 slot. It isn't overpowered. Just buff the other melee weapons [not tools].

the other ones are awful and a complete meme, that's more of a problem than katana being "overpowered" just because it overshadows the underpowered meme weapons.

[storm pendant]

But how would you make them worth taking w/o just having the same issue in reverse?

Katana should have stayed 2 slot, hammer and axe should have gotten a serious range and hit detection buff.

[thin remnant]

I'd suggest giving every weapon a martialist effect, but may be too complex

[storm pendant]

Bat and saber were fine as they were

[thin remnant]

by giving each their own niche and use-case.

[storm pendant]

Saber is still completely usable as is the bat (unless they happen to have hornskin), the issue they were trying to alleviate was that noone picked the axe or the hammer, so instead of buffing the axe or the hammer they made the katana the only melee worth running in every loadout

[thin remnant]

e.g. hammer has a more pve-oriented trait or buff and saber has a pvp one

[storm pendant]

Also, katana being 2 slot opened the door for interesting buildcrafting. It was just another layer to consider, people still ran the shit out of it even when it was 2 slot

I saw more 2 slot katanas than I saw of the other melees, but before they made the katana 1 slot i'd still SEE a bat or a saber here or there

[thin remnant]

it was only used as a meme when it was a 2 slot, though
unless i am mistaken, im not a console player

honestly just give console and pc different balancing ffs.

[storm pendant]

I'm not a console player either and that's just not true at all

Saw tons of obrez+katanas

Or shorty+katanas

Drilling too

It was literally fine the way it was

[thin remnant]

what mmr [also they were probs memeing]

[storm pendant]

I genuinely hate this question but 4-5* with occasional 6* rounds when playing w/ 6* friends

[thin remnant]

comparing the proportion of one weapon to another weapon of the same group, when the rest of the group is barely used and i am stating that as an argument you are going against, isn't a very good argument

[storm pendant]

The katana was just a good melee, if it were a meme it wouldn't be the only melee people run

[thin remnant]

whats so bad about the question?

it is absolutely relevant

it is not meant as an insult

[storm pendant]

"oh you disagree w/ me so you're probably bad" is the way it comes off

Same when people ask for hour count during a disagreement

[thin remnant]

#feedback-discussion message
also we were talking about 2 slot version, not its current version where it is the only ran melee

[storm pendant]

The axe, hammer, and machete are the only melees that I would genuinely consider in need of a buff, also hornskin needs to get axed it serves no purpose but to fuck with bat users.

[thin remnant]

and bulwark.

[storm pendant]

Saber and bat were fine (unless hornskin)

Katana is just too strong as a 1 slot, it ruins any illusion of choice unless you are going out of your way to NOT run katana

[thin remnant]

Salveskin needs a rework too, so fire still burns on first shot, but takes longer to escalate and faster to bandage.

[thin remnant]

Again, you're comparing it to other melee weapons. I'm saying other melees should be on par with it

[storm pendant]

There's no buff you can give to the other melees that wouldn't just make them all homogenous, they shouldn't be highly picked, they're niche weapons for niche uses

[thin remnant]

Katana or uppercut? then the uppercut is still almost always the better choice.

[storm pendant]

They shouldn't have a super high pick rate percentage, as said they are niche tools

You use them with specific loadouts that they compliment

[thin remnant]

like what

[storm pendant]

Centenniel or the LeMat carbine are good examples, extremely self sufficient weapons that benefit from having a melee or utility in second slot

[thin remnant]

hand crossbow just overshadows melees there tbh

[storm pendant]

In your opinion

I don't necessarily agree

[thin remnant]

and the vast majority of the playerbase [hehe bandwagon fallacy]

sorry i gtg

[storm pendant]

According to who exactly?

It's easy to say that but there's not really a way to prove that

Hand crossbow can't kill 3 people in a handful of seconds, melee could if you play your cards right

They are a niche tool but they work and do absolutely have their uses, they shouldn't have a super high pick rate compared to guns and I think that's fine

[thin remnant]

you have your melee tool for that [OKAY NOW I RLLY GTG BYEE]

[storm pendant]

Making 1 melee just better than all of the other melees wasn't the solution

[storm pendant]

You have a melee tool but you have to accurately hit the head, and not all melee tools are created equally amongst themselves either. Melee is easier to use and has better reach

[thin remnant]

oh yeah, they do have uses, i just personally disagree that they need to be so niche

AAA A A[ BYE]] [FINAL MESSAGE IS WAERRE THAIS TIME]

FA

[storm pendant]

I don't think they NEED to be niche, I think it's fine and a good place for them that they are and that only a handful of them actually needed any changes at all. Does anyone really expect a melee to be better than a gun in most cases? No, but it’s still baller to pop off with one. Sometimes, a big one tap melee really is the right tool for the job.

Regardless, melee is gonna be in a bad way until the spear gets nerfed into the ground regardless

Katana was not one of them

[storm pendant]

Have a good’n

[storm pendant]

@sonic goblet I genuinely cannot think of a good reason to downvote that post. Please explain. I’m curious

[sonic goblet]

What?

I like the new names

Also, please don’t tag everyone who downvotes your posts

[storm pendant]

That’s fine but what’s wrong w/ keeping the little company tag

[storm pendant]

If I want to discuss w/ them, why not? Isn’t that what @s are for?

[sonic goblet]

I don’t need the brand in the main line. I’m cool if it’s in the description

[storm pendant]

That’s fair but couldn’t my suggestion apply to that as well? As long as it’s mentioned somewhere

Edited it slightly

[storm pendant]

Genuinely asking about this btw, I just migrated over from teamspeak and I don’t really get all of the “etiquette” here

[sonic goblet]

Well now you’re assuming it isn’t mentioned anywhere, which, IIRC, it was shown in descriptions

[storm pendant]

I think it’s fair to assume they’d change that in descriptions too but my suggestion is more just a general plea to keep it somewhere if they aren’t already

[sonic goblet]

Also, when you tag people and question their reasoning in a belligerent way, it comes off as harassing.

[storm pendant]

Would it be better for #feedback ?

[storm pendant]

Wasn’t trying to come off as belligerent, sorry

[flat sandal]

@light flame I'm all for things along those lines. It could be a little too strong, not sure. Actually the more I think about it the more I like it. Personally I'm always a bit disappointed when there are two bounties. More often then not it's just going to be a matter of running there, getting there first or second, having one fight and leave. So adding a strong incentive could be a good idea. If this exact one, idk. having a plannable way to get death cheat is nice in my books.

[gleaming ridge]

why do I get backend authentication error at the test server?

is it closed?

[crystal plume]

Because the test servers are not in public use currently and haven't been in a while

[gleaming ridge]

oh

idk it just appeared in my library

and I thought it was live

thank you

[hollow herald]

https://youtu.be/UiO-DVP8AGg?si=a7tIAdzP91hZn71D anyone knows the name of the song in this trailer?

[mystic juniper]

Most likely an unreleased Port Sulphur song 🙂
It will most likely be released when the event drop 🙂

[unborn dagger]

God I want this change so badly

[thin remnant]

@short silo why not axes and t knives

And also why in the first place

[spring mason]

I BEG YOU FIX THIS, ever since the spear came out this has always been an issue man ffs. Stop adding useless things like bullet drop, making water look better and fix bugs that have been in the game for months.

[short silo]

Cause they aren't that long wooden tools

[hybrid forum]

@devout veldt that sassy pose is perfect, idk what you are on about

[devout veldt]

😭

[hybrid forum]

What's there not to love

[fluid terrace]

this game need kill cam so !"#"¤%T& bad, i question some times when i die and there is no way to prove any cheats in this game......

[rotund obsidian]

tbh they should make it more zesty

[tiny steeple]

At least he's not throwing it back

[unborn dagger]

@tiny steeple yeah that's the point of heavy rain dude. Use it to your advantage.

[median zephyr]

^ there is not enough people rotating and pushing around using the heavy rain, yes if youre running, esp on metal, you can be heard, but if youre crouching or walking, you can absolutely break stalemates of some compounds

worst part about rain is it makes things not work, like burning bodies, alerts, fire ammo, etc

[tiny steeple]

@unborn dagger I don't think something that breaks the game and makes its mechanics useless is good. Just because you can use something to your advantage doesn't mean it's okay

[waxen merlin]

A single weather condition out of 20 makes a single play style nerfed.
Suddenly poison(considered the worst element) and concerta bomb users get more edge

[median zephyr]

theyre not broke, and sound isnt useless, i hear and see just fine

[waxen merlin]

As someone that's been using pure fire build recently, I love all map conditions including rain.
In fact nighttime is my favorite

[unborn dagger]

I don't think you know what "breaking the game" means

[median zephyr]

thats fair, i love the idea of rain, but nerfing things that arent even meta, just leads to either people extracting, or not running the more fun ammo types, and burning bodies sometimes being impossible, is just a terrible design choice

the actual sound and how it looks is gorgeous, but we have burning for a reason, having 2 minute intervels where you just cant, is bad

[tiny steeple]

@unborn dagger what does it mean to you?

[unborn dagger]

Making something unplayable, heavy rain doesn't do that at all.

[waxen merlin]

In my opinion, game breaking is something like when you can see an enemy hunter in the distance inside a building because the render distance of objects is too far.
But only when you get closer or use a scope does the wall appear

As an example

[median zephyr]

something working not as intended is def closer to my definition of broken

however rain is working fully as intended, if you dont like the audio visual disturbance, thats less a broken thing, and more a "i dont like this"

but at the end of the day were arguing semantics, what matters is WHY everyone thinks rain is good/bad

[broken tinsel]

No bullet drop

[unborn dagger]

Yeah I've had a few moments like those. I've gotten hits or kills where the building out in the distance should have completely hid the hunter.

[brazen owl]

do you guys think you'd still be playing the game if you were prestige 100 lvl 100?

Like what's next? ... What do you even play for anymore? Just run and gun

I guess there's the BB grind that comes afterwards

Unlock every hunter

[median zephyr]

yes 100%

i play bc i enjoy the gunplay, yes i also like feeling like im progressing so itd be less fun, but still fun

if i didnt enjoy the fights, ive had stopped playing back in beta

[brazen owl]

Yeah this game is very unique in its genre, let's say

[median zephyr]

100% there isnt another game super close to it, i mean theres like fistfull of frags, but thats still very different

[unborn dagger]

I just play for the rush of it. Permadeath in this game just adds infinite replayability for me personally.

[median zephyr]

100% if i had infinate death cheat id be much more bored

[unborn dagger]

Facts

[white plover]

@charred stratus your post in #game-ideas "smoke grenades" has been removed due to low effort. Please follow the guidelines pinned in ⁠suggestions-ideas when using the channel, add at least a little detail in what you would like it to look like, i.e. tool or consumable and such.

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[tribal wyvern]

@molten blaze The most annoying part about that is that theres sometimes tiny as hell objects that just engulfes the entire explosion. A small box, a small gravestone. Some specific sides/part of the outhouse.

The inconsistency is horrible. You can die "through" a wall because explosion went around. But ye a tiny gravestone just soaks the entire explosion of big dynamites or frags.

[devout veldt]

Butcher's Cleaver throwing it back will scar me permanently

[devout veldt]

Oops ment to reply to this one

[dusky oyster]

Is there any way to Stop the bullet drop mechanic from being added in the next update?

[dusky oyster]

<@&357256267087085568> Hello, is there any video or source for the reasoning behind the bullet drop being added to the game next update and is it negotiable to not make it a thing?

[dim heron]

Please refrain from tagging all mods unless there is an urgent Discord matter

[dusky oyster]

I guess moderators are more of a riot police than people to ask question then.

[dim heron]

no, we can answer questions. Just don't tag all of us for no reason

[tawny meadow]

To answer your question: bullet drop is being implemented in two days, i doubt it's negotiable in any way. I just suggest you to try it out.

[dusky oyster]

thank you

[brazen owl]

The realistic part of the game, QoL... all that stuff...

same as why there is bullet travelling speed

[dusky oyster]

it was part of hunt being hunt, that there was no bullet drop and so the headshots on long range felt rewarding and amazing

[brazen owl]

until you hit a headshot and the guy survived

[brazen owl]

they'll feel even more rewarding now, think about it lol

[dusky oyster]

happened only with pistols and winfields where the effective range is lower and it was a reasonable thing

[dusky oyster]

You should think about it lol, how will you aim on let say 100-120 meter away hunter with a weapon that has only iron sights?

[brazen owl]

you'll get used to the feel of your gun, just like you would IRL. Maybe don't take that shot if you don't feel confident enough, get closer to your enemies before taking them down...

idk man, have you ever played dayz?

[low timber]

No. The feature has been worked on for months, I doubt any feedback will convince them to remove it entirely

[patent anvil]

MMR STILL SUCKS.

[wet shale]

Has nothing to do with COD….I can play about any other shooter and a FOV slider is offered.

Because it is a basic setting on about every other shooter.

[unborn dagger]

Yeah practically any fps on console now has an FOV slider so why wouldn't hunt get it lol

[thin remnant]

Huh?

What world are you living in where slugs are the meta?

It's still long ammo meta, always has been

@mild vapor adding a spectate icon would help cheaters hide their cheats and for the non cheating players create stress and performance anxiety

@cerulean pasture Nerfing accuracy of rng will not solve this, it will become more annoying if anything. You still get instaheadshot from that range and now it was even luckier and more undeserved.

[cerulean pasture]

It doesn't feel good when I shoot and get a lucky hs ngl

In my opinion I think luck shouldn't be as big a factor

[thin remnant]

Making it less accurate will make luck a bigger factor.

[cerulean pasture]

Sorry I phrased that wrong, I am saying it should be a very short ranged perk and shouldn't be as affective at a distance because you're less likely to kill someone with it

I think you shouldn't be able to fan and hit someone with multiple shots are medium distance

But if people disagree that's fine

At the end of the day I think it's a game and should be enjoyed

[rapid snow]

Why is the server down?

[thin remnant]

Read announcements

[hybrid forum]

I made them as an example of arbitrary rarities, as they look identical, you obtain them the same way for the same price, yey they are different

[unborn dagger]

They won't because it's good manipulation tactics to get people to buy them, therefore people will pay for microtransactions.

Not supporting it btw

[median zephyr]

this is exactly what i said yes

[median zephyr]

yes long ammo snipers are THE top, but slugs arent far behind, the only reason theyre not the tippy top is bc long ammo snipers are fully safe against some weapons, slugs are never fully safe

[empty oasis]

@molten blaze Your post "Title: Fix weapons sticking out through walls" has been removed as it was feedback. If you'd like to leave game feedback, please do so in the #feedback channel

[molten blaze]

good point

done

[bitter musk]

Fan the Hammer on Pistol with Stock... Nani?

[little fulcrum]

How does the new raised crosshair work? Typically bullets land in the middle of a crosshair if you aren't moving in FPS games. What's the point in repositioning the UI element if it isn't changing where the bullet lands? Or is/was the "lowered" element more accurate for hipfire?

[hot vigil]

It is just what you see, nothing else.

Lowered crosshair sees more of the top part of the picture and centered crosshair sees more of the lower part of the picture.

[unborn dagger]

It's either there just for looks or there is going to be a balancing change that we dont know about where we will be able to fan with stocked pistols

[thin remnant]

Meta quite literally means most effective tactic available tho

[weary fox]

Long ammo is at the tippy top. No other ammo type comes close, perhaps excluding Nitro Shredder. Slugs are effective until around the ranges of a Winfield, at which they start losing their effectiveness and lethality. Long ammo on the other hand is more than capable of contesting at 80m+ while retaining lethality on body shots. As much as I hate how slugs are right now, I have to say your opinion is objectively wrong.

[thin remnant]

Akshually dolch

[hot vigil]

Well, yes and no, game like Hunt will have different meta picks in different niches too

Like Meta throwables
Meta consumable set up
Meta Tools

And ofc meta shotguns/custom ammo

Like how it is meta that IF you take a LeMat Pistol, slugs is the best choice

Meta doesn't mean "most effective tactic available" it is just a the meta-knowledge affecting game choice

Like how a meta can be "locked" for months until someone finds a new tactic that the community deems "meta"

Internet have turned meta more universal, back in the days with lanplay you'll see different communities from two cities over have different metas.

In short, meta is about community perception, not necessarily what is objectivly best

[weary fox]

Nah I'm kidding

I'm just testing out stickers

[weary fox]

Bet the meta consumable set up is 4 frag bombs

[hot vigil]

Eh, I run 2x Big Regen and then an Ammo box if needed and whatever throwable I like

I think you see people stacking more ammoboxes than anything else

[blissful jackal]

mozin spitz dolch p baby

[weary fox]

Akshually mozin snper spitzor dolch p

[median zephyr]

of course not, because there are multiple contendors, like the uppercut, dolch, dolch p, and uppermat/ uppercut p. there cant be all these choices if there is "just one" because they do seperate things, even of the long ammo snipers its a contender between mosin sniper with spitzer, and krag.

[median zephyr]

slugs dominate close range, if you dont think crown and king with slugs is in the top eschelon of weapons (not saying its the best, just the top eschelon) then we will just never agree

there are many things that are "meta" weapons, no im not gonna sit here and say machette, the difference is where people determine a cutoff, for me, of the 3 slots, any long ammo sniper, the nitro, and the good slug shotguns, are the best in this category, obv things like the winnie, the vetterli, etc are less good and not deemed meta

[hot vigil]

Also meta also just mean "what the community is deemed best".
I'm gonna be a grandpa, but I remember back in the days before internet became a whole thing, you could see different town develop different metas within the same game.

[median zephyr]

meta does not just mean one thing, it does mean the STRONGEST things, which may be one thing, or may be multiple, obv something bad isnt meta, but for instance the dolch and the uppercut, both are meta bc they both are the strongest at their respective things. and yea, the internet has for sure helped with the spread of info, for better or for worse

[thin remnant]

so i was misinformed when i was told it meant "most effective tactic"

it actually means tactics

?

[hot vigil]

Well, Meta is still at the end of the day a community perception :)
If you give two groups of 100 people access to the same pool of cards in Magic and no way to communicate with the outside world, you'll see two different meta evolves based on each groups perception and play dynamic.
Ofc there might be outlier cards that will be common among both groups, but one group might lean towards an aggro meta and the other a control meta.

[median zephyr]

i mean the tippy top most strong thing in the game currently, is a long ammo sniper, but people say meta for many things, and how people use a word is more importnat for definitions

[thin remnant]

so what you're saying is people have twisted the word into an incorrect meaning

[hot vigil]

Meta nowadays mostly just mean "the best" for most people.
Mostly because most people, don't have the skillset to explore new meta strats and will copy what "pros" does.

[median zephyr]

for sure, the only difference is both metas may be right depending on the environment, like if lets say group A has a lot of slow buildup players, agro may be stronger, where group b plays more defensive, which may allow the slow buildup to be stronger

[thin remnant]

so people have twisted it into an incorrect meaning.

[median zephyr]

nah, how people use words is more important then someone telling you how to use words, words are made by people using them not someone writing it in a book

[thin remnant]

does this mean "most effective tactic availables"

[hot vigil]

Or group A have strong control player and everyone in that group copies them and group B have strong aggro player and they copy that.
But seems like we are on the same page haha

[median zephyr]

not inherrently, because im sure not everyone would agree on the "perfect deck" but a general idea, that is considered the best by most people

[median zephyr]

yea basically!

[thin remnant]

Definitions are, by definition, objectively what something means

but i wont argue because arguing about definitions here is a bit silly

[median zephyr]

of course not, because not even dictionaries have the same definitions

[hot vigil]

Think it more that you need to remember that even "meta" is a subjective thing.
Let us say Crytek adds a Glock to Hunt, many would say that would be Meta, which is true, it would be strong, if not the strongest pistol in the game.
But some people might say it is not meta bc it cost 5k Hunt dollars or they think it is inherently so broken that it shouldn't be a factor of the meta talk :)

[median zephyr]

so since they disagree, that means either there is the one "true" dictionary, or its all incorrect

but youre right it doesnt make sense, i wont comment on it further

[thin remnant]

so by definition "meta" is a meaningless and invalid word as is, unaltered?

[hot vigil]

No, just that like anything else in this world it can be subjective when it is about human opinion :)

[median zephyr]

i dont think so, we all have an IDEA of what it means, wed all agree that machette isnt meta, but its a subjective term

[thin remnant]

there is always one most effective tactic, even if it is unreachable and/or incomprehendible by human means.

I do understand human-ifying the word, though

[empty oasis]

Meta in gaming (as in "the meta") refers to the current strongest weapons/tactics as generally agreed upon by the community.

There can be more than one combination that vies for the top spot and these collectively make up "The Meta"
Weapons and strategies contained within these are thus called Meta

For example, in a game where ttk is king the weapon with the fastest ttk would usually be meta
But lets say that another weapon had a slightly slower ttk but better accuracy which resulted in a faster effective ttk. That would likely overtake or at least seriously compete with the first weapon. Thus both would likely be meta

A quick google search will show that this is the generally agreed upon current understanding of meta and that, at least recently, it has come to be described as "Meta - Most effective tactics available" since that more or less succinctly explains the idea

This is not to be confused with metagaming (originally a ttrpg term) that means using knowledge outside of what the game is directly giving you. This would include normal player movement routes, peek spots, etc. Essentially anything your player charcter wouldnt know but you as the player do know

The meta may be influenced or even dictated by metagaming but from my understanding, derived from more time than is wise spent in and around game discussions and forums, they are not the same exact thing

[median zephyr]

well sure, however if its unreachable or unagreed upon, it doesnt really matter for humans

[thin remnant]

💯

[median zephyr]

yea this exactly, the question really becomes what is the generally agreed upon cutoff point between meta, and not

which for me and other people in hunt, is not just long ammo snipers, but slug shotguns as well

[empty oasis]

Personally I break it down farther into:
overall meta -long ammo bolts
close meta - slug CnK
med meta- lot of decent competition
Long meta- Scoped Spitzer
Since our ranges are much more varied than a lot of other games, i think that the breakdown helps clarify, narrow, and compare weapons to each other in context

[median zephyr]

i agree with this! i think its also important to compare which playstyles are better too, like long range sniping > being medium range, even the best medium range thing (lets say the krag or maybe an officer carbine) isnt as good as being a sniper in the current meta

[empty oasis]

@hybrid forum your post "Title: Don't add skin rarities to hunt" has been removed as it is feedback. If you'd like to leave game feedback, please do so in the #feedback channel.

[hybrid forum]

By the way can I ask you something?

[empty oasis]

?

[hybrid forum]

Why was my post silently deleted first time I posted it?

[empty oasis]

I dont know, but if it was the same one then likely for the same reason

[hybrid forum]

I didn't receive any notification, and it was worded differently

It just disappeared overnight

[late yarrow]

@hasty vine
Re: Title: Aim mode quick swap

I was testing hunter and gunslinger controls once to get optimal one and it turned out that a small changes in the game on control could make seperate controls - hunter and gunslinger - unnecessary. It was something about sprinting and aiming conflict that could be solved by devs. You can look into it because i personally can't remember details on it.

[queen zinc]

It really isnt though.

A sniper will rarely extract a bounty successfully

[thin remnant]

That is due to a common sniper playstyle that the types of people to use snipers adopt, not the weapon itself

[queen zinc]

If you arent playing sniper distances, a sniper has no substantial advantage

A sniper scope is a hinderance in most engagements that are closer in

Spitzer does notably less damage

[thin remnant]

I mean I personally do think bolt action irons could be considered more meta tbh.

[hot vigil]

Yes/no, if your quickscope/flick game is on point it doesn't really matter you have a scope or not.

[thin remnant]

Don't you know?

Scopes take longer to be fully accurate than irons I believe

[queen zinc]

Honestly, that could be an easy balance adjustment as well

Introduce weapon weight, affecting ADS times

Bolt action rifles like a Mosin are quite hefty, compared to a Winfield compact

IRL

Nothing drastic

But subtle tweaks would go a long way

[hot vigil]

Nope, every weapon is pin point accurate even before the sights aligns, that is why crosshair programs are an advantage.
You can pre-fire before the sight have alligned.

[thin remnant]

But Im fairly sure it kinda is the case, as in snipers aren't fully accurate halfway through the scope if I'm not misinformed

[queen zinc]

Well, then its a game design issue first and foremost, not balance

[thin remnant]

Guess my information is outdated or a lie

Was this ever the case

[hot vigil]

Yeah just pointing out how it works currently.

[hot vigil]

No no you are not completely wrong, when you switch to another weapon there are an increased sway to any gun.

[thin remnant]

Can someone test this and confirm lol
I can't play rn

[hot vigil]

No one can play rn lmao

[thin remnant]

Shit I forget lmao

[queen zinc]

This is often an issue when discussing balance, is there are gameplay design flaws often at play that players may or may not know about it

Like, I dont think the weapons are imbalanced

But if you can instantly snap-shot with perfect accuracy, then the inherent disadvantages of a scope get severely nerfed

[hot vigil]

But yeah basically if you go from a full sprint into ADS the gun is centre accurate and be fired 0.5 seconds (guesstimate) before the sight is alligned.

[queen zinc]

Easy design fixes is:
1- dont allow perfect accuracy UNTIL ads completes
2- disconnect the point of aim from being PERFECTLY center screen at all times (Like insurgency or SQUAD)

[thin remnant]

You sure this works with scopes

[hot vigil]

To my knowledge yes

Scope doesn't change anything but zoom and movement speed

[thin remnant]

I heard somewhere scopes take a bit to be accurate
Will have to test when game comes back up

[hot vigil]

You might think about steadyaim

[thin remnant]

Oh well there's movement speed ig lol

[hot vigil]

We had that back in the days, sway used to be CRAZY when you were moving

[queen zinc]

Oh i know

I played in EA

Really miss certain aspects

[hot vigil]

Yeah

And then I remember the ADADADADADDAADDAADDADAADADAD meta

Which we still have to a degree

but melee rush was insane

Or you see a guy fucking vibrating due to crouch spamming worrying their knees might explode lmao

[queen zinc]

I just want-
Sway back to original values (this would also nerf long ammo rifles)

DARK night time

High damage AI (I remember hellhounds used to do like 50 or 75 damage per bite)

[thin remnant]

I mean doing that AND long ammo bullet drop, if both, is extreme

I largely agree though mostly about night and ai

[bright plank]

Original sway really wasn't that bad. It'd be something to get used to again, sure, but very doable.

DARK night time I'd love to see come back again, I just worry the gameplay will be shit with so many new things to slow down gameplay like traps.

Hellhounds were also a lot easier to kill, though, since they didn't have the dodging animations they do nowadays. The only reason they used to be a struggle was that there was no stamina shot yet.

And having to teamwork to kill an Armoured was cool in a teamplay kind of sense, but again just wouldn't work the same way with stamina shots and throwable tools.

[thin remnant]

Hellhounds are mostly fine tbh

Buffing ai too much in the wrong ways would just make stam shot even more necessary

And stam shot is already kinda lame, trivializing ai

[thin remnant]

@regal orchid okay but like can you say what it does

[lean estuary]

i want a moonless night map so bad, and pitch black interiors (like basements and tunnels)

[gray snow]

I have error 0X30001 since yesterday.. Anyone knows what is it?

[carmine needle]

#1272926908526362644

[thin remnant]

Read announcements.

[gray snow]

alright thx, my bad

[regal orchid]

Kills people

[thin remnant]

Price, slots, damage..

[regal orchid]

I’m at work
I had time to give the tldr version

[median zephyr]

a good sniper will absolutely extract a bounty sucessfully, depending on map and extracts, obv bad snipers wont bc you typically need luck to have the last team res in your vision, or to hit a moving target

[median zephyr]

i have no tested this myself, but i have heard from good players that scopes specifically take longer to get their "fully accurate" benefit, unlike irons

[hot vigil]

Are you talking an artifical bullet will fly like hipfire spread or?

[median zephyr]

im not sure how it works fully, but scopes arent fully accurate until zoomed in, at least deadeye, marksman, and sniper

[hot vigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdRVwQQ2Jrs
well

[median zephyr]

that video, weirdly enough, is fully zoomed in

you can see the picture come up

and even if it wasnt, i dont believe it can never hit the center, there is just rng unlike fully zoomed in shots

i believe it was in a rachtaZ video?

[hot vigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6UlEqfIF8Q

Oh boi you summoned him haha

[silent tartan]

I can confirm quickscopes are little RNG, its actually based on the hipfire spread how accurate they are

Its 100% accurate to "quick ADS" with iron sights tho

[hot vigil]

Nice thanks dood!
Hope you surviving the server downtime :V

[median zephyr]

thanks for the confirmation!

[silent tartan]

I am not surviving the heat Kinda happy I didnt play Hunt today ngl

[hot vigil]

haha fair fair, while I have you here, you talking about this moment as the crosshair shrinks in?

[silent tartan]

Not sure exactly, but once the servers are up, you can try to quickscope with cent levering sniper vs cent while crouching and notice the huge accuracy

The wider hipfire spread = more RNG for quickscopes

So yeah, even crouching makes them more accurate (Useful for nitro)

Not sure where is the exact moment or what exact spread or RNG is used for it

[hot vigil]

Interesting, another of those cases where Hunt just is a little wonky

Or rather

[queen zinc]

Yeah, that is an issue that needs adjustment, for sure

[hot vigil]

people will try to optimize the game

[queen zinc]

Snipers SHOULD feel limited in closer ranged fights

[silent tartan]

It used to be 100% accurate but got nerfed yeah

[queen zinc]

That should be the trade off

[hot vigil]

Would be nice if the game told, but dunno how to convey it either.

[median zephyr]

i mean it is slower, and harder to aim, but good players could aim a gun without iron sights, its hard to nerf it more

only thing snipers get at close range is being able to more easily look through cracks and things like that

[queen zinc]

Force guns to use hipfire accuracy UNTIL ads is complete

IRL, you cant "aim a weapon" without lining up the sights

Other than your ballpark hipfire

[median zephyr]

something like this already happens with snipers, but i wouldnt mind this for iron sights, although i thought we were talking about snipers at close range

[queen zinc]

The video clearly shows a precision shot with a sniper before ADS completes

I do think we need a new "stat" of weapon weight that influences weapon swap and ADS speeds

Would give sawn off rifles more niche value

Would be a subtle nerf to long ammo rifles without gutting their value

[median zephyr]

no, that video shows a shot with ads complete if you watch it in slow mo, and a good player has confirmed non ads scopes have rng

[queen zinc]

So lets adjust things- that kinda just sounds like a lazy response imo

AI should be a bit more threatening and dynamic

[crystal plume]

Having inaccuracy for quickscoping doesn't mean that you can never hit an accurate quickscope

[median zephyr]

this is true as well, it just means you arent gaurenteed like an aimed shot

[queen zinc]

Let me rephrase, just as an IRL shooter, I dont consider "ADS COMPLETE" until you set in your sights, and align sights to target

pre-alignging sights simply shouldnt be possible

Quick scoping is an arcade fiction that I would love to see removed from any and all shooters

[queen zinc]

Agreed

[median zephyr]

im not gonna comment on irl things, just saying in this game, scopes already have rng on not fully aimed shots, if you think the time it takes to ads should be increased, thats a different thing entirely

[unborn smelt]

U talking about IRL or game balance here, because thare's arguments for both sides

[queen zinc]

Sure

ill simplify my arguemnt to that

Back to "give weapons a weight rating" affecting ADS and weapon swap spees

speeds

[unborn smelt]

for game balance, not having perfect aim until the sights are aligned is good

[queen zinc]

That is the side i am on

The issue is its a bit too fast/easy to align sights by pre-aligning the target

[unborn smelt]

but IRl it's absolutely possible to get good precision out of sights that arent aligned with your eyes, or weapons without any sights for that matter

that just requires lots of training

[median zephyr]

issue is i dont see a way to fix this, unless you dont have the sights come up to the same spot, which would be aweful

[queen zinc]

"precision shots"

No it isnt

[median zephyr]

as someone who has done aim drills with hipfire, yes it is lol

[unborn smelt]

yes it is, for example large amounts of traditional archery work fine without sights

[queen zinc]

Archers aim shots?

[unborn smelt]

you get the precision through muscle memory and getting good at guessing

[queen zinc]

What are you talking about

[unborn smelt]

i didn't say they don't aim

i said they often don't use sights

[queen zinc]

Show me a clip, ANYWHERE on the internet, of a person hitting hipfire shots on a soda-can sized target, without aiming, while in a moving/fluid environment (Not a range)

Because you practice a hyper-specific muscle memory that is ONLY applicable to a specific range layout, with a specific weapon, in specific circumstances, is not relevant to "combat shooting"

[median zephyr]

im not gonna spend time to find that, you can look for it if you wish, i truely dont care if you dont believe me im just here to educate

[queen zinc]

You cant aim without sights

The sights might merely be different forms

[queen zinc]

It doesnt exist

You are giving false information

[median zephyr]

i never claimed you can "hit hipfire shots on a soda-can sized target, without aiming, while in a moving/fluid environment (Not a range)" so how can i be false

you put words in my mouth and i dont feel youre being respectful, so have a nice day

[unborn smelt]

okay then how does one aim a traditional selfbow

[bright plank]

You'll never create AI that is gonna be truly challenging. Not even the bosses or wild targets really are and they aren't supposed to be. It's a PvP shooter with PvE elements, not the other way around.

[unborn smelt]

in modern archery with arrow shelves aiming down the arrow, provided you shoot according to your dominant eye, became poular

[queen zinc]

If you are using any sort of visual reference to align your weapon to target, you are using "sights"

It doesnt have to be a physical "piece" that you line up to target

But a sight is a "visual reference for aiming" at its simplest

Anything else, you might as well be shooting with your eyes closed

[unborn smelt]

i mean okay, then any part of a gun that's not a scope could be used for that ?

[queen zinc]

Any part of a weapon you use as a means to "aim" your weapon, yes

[unborn smelt]

afterall if the "sights" don't have to be properly aligned actual sights

[bright plank]

I more astonished you chose bows over throwing knives, axes, and spears. Since we have all of them in game as well.

Much better example.

[queen zinc]

If you want to be accurate, they need to at least line up with your weapon and the target in one way or another

[unborn smelt]

It's because i personally do archery

[bright plank]

Yeah me too, that's why I wondered, since aiming along the arrow shaft I'd personally consider to be aiming down sights somewhat.

[unborn smelt]

and ran into the issue of not being able to do the "aim with arrow tip" method, as i started shooting righthanded as a kid, just to learn years later i'm cross dominant

So instead of trying to retrain shooting lefthanded, according to my dominant eye, i started doing instictive shooting

[queen zinc]

Exactly

[bright plank]

Oh cool. Must have been weird to readjust.

[queen zinc]

Even throwing items, one aims

[unborn smelt]

it's super weird

[queen zinc]

If you arent using a visual reference, it would be identical to shooting with your eyes closed

COULD someone do it, in a perfect situation or incredible luck? Sure

But the liklihood is so absurdly low its irrelevant

[bright plank]

What reference are people using when throwing axes/spears/knives?

[unborn smelt]

or even better, a traditional sling

[bright plank]

You pull the object behind your field of view for a throw.

[unborn smelt]

one could argue you bring em back into your FoV while throwing

And don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it's easy or super accurate to get accuracy out of ranged weapons without sights, but it's possible - albeit requiring lots of training

[sand kiln]

Only one day

[queen zinc]

Visualizing against their known "throw"

SOme people extend a hand for aiming

Again, if you arent "visually aligning" your weapon, your performance would be identical to someone with their eyes closed

Same as throwing a baseball

[bright plank]

Right so you'd say that if you have your gunbarrel in your field of view, since you know in which direction it roughly points as it is a straight line, you can send shots in that general direction?

[unborn smelt]

If we argue on that basis tho, the argument doesn't work for saying you can't shoot accurate without ligning up the scope of a weapon.
Afterall just because there's a scope, doesn't mean you can't visually align the weapon in another way

[bright plank]

And the more experience you have doing so, comparing it against known shots they have done before, the more accurate they will get.

[queen zinc]

Without lining up SOMETHING

It doesnt need to be the scope

Per-se

But you are aligning with SOMETHING

That is what aiming is

[unborn smelt]

yes, so if we think back to where the argument originated, when "quickscoping" something other than the scope could be used for the visual alignment

for example the tip of the barrel, similarly to how you'd do it with an arrow in archery

[queen zinc]

Yes, but weapon alignment takes TIME

The issue is due to how hipfire works, players have this magical point of aim that is ALWAYS steady and accurate

Therefore, the time needed to align a shot doesnt actually exist

Because someone can just sprint, put the center of the screen on target, and click for an absurdly fast precision shot

Compare to like SQUAD or insurgency, where your weapon moves about your screen

Snap fire is almost entirely luck dependent

[unborn smelt]

yes, i get that. And just how "snappy" or "realistic" aiming should feel is highly subjective

[queen zinc]

"Should feel"

Sure, but considering we have an issue with long ammo rifles being dominant, this kinda of nerf, if focused on heavier weapons would be
1- realistic
2- beneficial for balance

[unborn smelt]

yes and no

i personally agree with saying it'd be good for balance

but especially in Hunt's time period, ergonomics as in how nice a weapon is to aim and caliber are independent from each other

[radiant river]

faster aim down sight times encourages more aggressive play
nerfing long ammo by making it feel slow to use just pushes it even more into the long range camper archetype which is frustrating to play against

[queen zinc]

Ergonomics is a subjective factor, sure

But "weight" isnt

And physics always applies

My arguemtn is based off of weight, and a heavier weapon takes longer to move, so says physics

[unborn smelt]

True, it's just not the case that a large caliber rifle would automatically weigh more than a lower caliber one

[queen zinc]

In a general sense, yes it would

[median zephyr]

for sure, but we have ads speed for a reason, we want people to have to be prepared, and not sprinting and shooting fully accurately, i dont personally think long ammo guns should have slower ads speed, but inaccuracy for shooting without the sights being up could be a good change, it was nerfed on snipers for good reason

[queen zinc]

Larger calibre have stronger pressures, require sturdier/heftier construction

Also this

I play Hunt because I LIKE slower gameplay

If i wanted flicks and movement based shooting, id play APEX

I enjoy the tension of stealthily moving, and locating a threat to take out, knowing any second I could be immediately killed

[unborn smelt]

Yes, but is a heavier barrel for s single round, neccessarily heavier than a lighter barrel with an added second tube for a magazine that holds many smaller rounds

[queen zinc]

FAR more than any ADD spastic shooter

[radiant river]

I rarely see players firing before the sights are fully up, the ADS speed is already so fast

[queen zinc]

If you compare the weight of a Mosin IRL, to a Winfield compact IRL, the weight difference is SIGNIFICANT

A sparks is also heavier than a Winfield

But lighter than a Mosin

[median zephyr]

then changing it wouldnt be so bad, its hard to tell if youre fighting someone, but its mostly used by high level players

[unborn smelt]

I personally can relate, but leaning into that also massively increases the perception of other players camping

[queen zinc]

True "camping" is rare

[unborn smelt]

which has been a major complaint with many Hunt players for ages

[queen zinc]

Most "campers" are players who sniffed you were coming and set up an ambush, as you SHOULD be doing

[unborn smelt]

I know, that's specifically wha i said "perception of camping"

[queen zinc]

Being unpredictable is, in of itself, a skill

Dont take the most direct route

If you make a sound trigger, re-route

Etc

[unborn smelt]

but for player feedback if it wa actual camping or just percieved camping doesn't matter much

[queen zinc]

Perceptions are subjective, and not something i really care about

[unborn smelt]

In both scenarios the player will be unhappy and complain about camping

[radiant river]

Yeah, sure. I just genuinely think it would make almost no difference even at the highest level.

[queen zinc]

You can perceive me camping all you want, when I hear you trigger some monsters, and then beeline immediately to the boss that is being banished, im setting up an ambush every time

[queen zinc]

Literally just a "git good" situation then

[radiant river]

the ability to quickscope with a sniper is way different than quickscoping with an ironsight weapon. it allowed snipers to be more effective at closer ranges which they weren't intended for.

[queen zinc]

The thing about the "casual" FPS crowd, is they are mostly hardwired to feel they should have a fair shot to win in EVERY engagement they enter

[unborn smelt]

One can say so, but at the end of the day, if enough players complain the devs will likel act

[queen zinc]

Which is simply not true

[unborn smelt]

if it's a git good situation or not

[median zephyr]

for sure, person will be upset, but if someone complains that for instance, the machette is op, the devs know to write off the complaint as its a skill issue

[queen zinc]

If enough players want the game to play like Warzone, should the devs cave?

Popularity is a bad argument

[unborn smelt]

afterall we have seen lots of changes to decrease camping happening since hunts very start

[queen zinc]

Sure, and there are some I would argue for

But im talking about simple gunplay rn

[radiant river]

If anything it'd effect the uppercut the most

[median zephyr]

for sure! im not dead set on it being a good change, but since ads speeds are so quick i think having it be consistant of "you need to ads" could be good

[queen zinc]

Slowest ADS of a pistol, but faster than anything non-pistol

[unborn smelt]

again yes and no. With too little popularity a game just dies, with too much it looses it's uniqueness prividing it had some before

[queen zinc]

A loyal small crowd is far better than a large and fickle one

Look at ARMA

[median zephyr]

this is probably the thing its used most on, which would be nice

[queen zinc]

How old is that game? And its held its population for 10+ years

[unborn smelt]

in what regard ?

[queen zinc]

Call of Dutys get forgotten within a mere few years

[unborn smelt]

and they get to sell it again and again anad again

[queen zinc]

ARMA, like i said, is at its SAME population 10+ years later

Roughtly

Roughly

Because the COD crowd are idiots

[unborn smelt]

i don't think it's a bad game for the company

[queen zinc]

That pay for the same re-hashed trash every year

Tell that to the massive layoffs, and severe quarterly drops

Fickle can hold for a little while, but not long

But ill say again, making long-ammo rifles just a LITTLE slower on the draw, increases the appeal and niche of compact and medium ammo rifles, AND increases the niche for sawn off rifles

Its a win all around

[unborn smelt]

I personally agree, question is how the community would react

[queen zinc]

Considering the community wants some adjustments, positively

I even suggested it here on the suggestions and ideas and it was massively upvoted

[unborn smelt]

It's hard to say what the "community wants" because discord is just a small-ish dedicated part of the community and even just a fraction of those vote on ideas, and in general people that are happy are silent while often unhappy minoorities are loud

First thing that comes to mind for me is the "trading changes" they did

where "the community" was very vocal about a large amount of shots that should have been trades being invalidated "midair" which led the devs to fix an issue with too many invalidations.
Now the community complains about trading being much more frequent, which is a direct result of them fixing an error

[sand kiln]

Then MMR being too volatile they fixed it and now is "Oh now I'm stuck in x MMR"

[median zephyr]

its impossible to please anyone, its hard to tell if its the same people complaining about each thing, but no matter what you change, itll make some people upset, and some happier

[sand kiln]

Now with the ping lock will be "Now I cannot play with my friends from EU because the new ping limit"

If people that are good with stuff were more vocal about how happy or satisfied they feel, prob would be different

[median zephyr]

for sure, but the only people who often feel the need to want change, are because its from a strong emotion, so something very good/bad

like for instance you dont see many people complaining about clues for example, the game mechanic works fine, worst that happens is some clues are very exposed and able to be camped from a distance, but its not even in the list of worst things about the game

[queen zinc]

I just miss the early access visual of clues

Way cooler being red and flamey

[hasty vine]

Realistically I would be just as happy to have a “Melee mode” for weapons so I could switch between melee being left click and fire being left click

[median zephyr]

they were for sure cooler, i get why they changed the "look through the bosses eyes thing" but idk why they changed how it visually looks

[late yarrow]

Yes, it can be done just as you said basically in a Hunter Mode if you set aiming modes to "switch", but it works a bit flawed on switching from or to sprinting/aiming down, you should take a deeper look at it, so you can write more detailed suggestion on it. I saw possibility in it for there to be no need to chose between Hunter and Gunslinger, because you can have both in one and switch modes. It's just that I got tired of checking all possible settings, and I didn't know about suggestion channel yet, I forgot the solution for it. If you get the thing i just wrote and write a suggestion for it, you have my vote for sure !!

I remember that with a tiny fix by the devs it could work in a very nice way

[hasty vine]

Gotcha, that makes more sense I was having some trouble understanding the original reply. I’ll screw around with the settings tomorrow and see what I find.

[late yarrow]

what time can we expect servers up, do you know and can remind me please ?? 🙂

[hasty vine]

That would be tomorrow. Not sure about the exact hour.

[median zephyr]

they said its down for 48 hours, so it should be back up at 7pm CEST, tomorrow. now obv there may be delays or whatever, but thats the best i got

[hasty vine]

I just know I won’t be home till midnight so I’m good either way

[median zephyr]

well if its a rough launch, maybe youll get in just in time when it starts all working :] who knows!

[queen zinc]

Overall, I think EA had a better "feel

visually

The smoke from firearms felt more pronounced, and really emphasized the idea that "these are old time guns"

[hasty vine]

More smoky guns would make more sense for this time period considering a lot of the cartridges were black powder. It would be kinda cool if they made it more pronounced.

[queen zinc]

Look up early access/alpha gameplay

Gunshots used to create large, thick white clouds

[unborn dagger]

@sonic mirage i dont think they will because it might give Playstation an advantage over Xbox players

Could be wrong on how it works tho

[tiny pivot]

Pretty sure both controllers have gyro and either way it’s simply better input for console players willing to learn

[sonic mirage]

yea i dont really buy that excuse since Fortnite, COD, The Finals, etc have it and the xbox players dont bat an eye @unborn dagger

[unborn dagger]

True, but a game like Valorant never did because of Xbox not having it

[sonic mirage]

yea thats what they said. but honestly i dont think xbox players would mind since they seem to say gyro aim is a gimmick anyways lol

[median zephyr]

The feeling for sure, but lots was probably changed for gameplay

[unborn dagger]

I would certainly like gyro aiming though, I felt my aim had been a lot better when it came to certain games like MW2019 and 2022

[frozen crater]

looks like shotguns have had a range increase

dunno the specifics, but a Video Games article has a couple of morsels of info https://videogames.si.com/features/hunt-showdown-1896-interview

[unborn dagger]

I just wonder how much of a range increase they're getting. 2 maybe 3 meters?

[median zephyr]

I genuinely didn't think they needed a range increase, time to test all the shotguns. AGAIN!!!

If this means the crosshairs and store stats will be accurate though, that's a huge plus

[thin remnant]

just hope long ammo doesnt become a meme lol

[thin remnant]

maybe even a slight rework like some people asked, increasing the two-tap range but not the one tap 🤷‍♂️

[median zephyr]

theres genuinely no way, it still has the high dmg, at worst it wont be meta and thats not that bad

[thin remnant]

@late yarrow I hate defensive traits just as much if not more than you, but I do not agree with the changes you have suggested.

[late yarrow]

do you hate me more than the changes suggested?

[thin remnant]

XD [this is joke right? about how i said if not more than you? because i meant as much as you hate them]

[median zephyr]

im the same way, reducing enemies weapons effectiveness is stupid, but i also dont like how the traits turned out

its like iron eye, if it makes you shoot 20% faster, thats cool, now if there was a trait that made your enemies shoot even 10% slower, thats stupid

traits should buff you, not hinder the eneemy

[thin remnant]

exactly. now imagine a trait that makes your enemies incapable of one shotting you with a certain weapon as if there was a trait that made you immune to mosin spitzer headshots. oh wait

[median zephyr]

peak design tbh, all hunters should be able to put on iron armor that deflects all bullets, thats what tarkov- i mean hunt needs

[hot vigil]

But ofc Long ammo is so strong that it pens it 😌✨

[median zephyr]

or incendiary burns through it, OR ACTUALLY GIVE A USE TO LONG AMMO FMJ

finally, we found the use

[late yarrow]

what amplifications to those would you suggest, because it's clearly almost impossible for CrTech to remove those????

[late yarrow]

The true issue on this subject is that the "defensive traits you pick" is totally out of your control, you never use it at will

[thin remnant]

I personally think the inconsistency is the largest problem. I'd be just fine, no more than that, with the traits not completely nullifying the damage but making it more manageable.

Changes I may add, keeping it light so people wouldn't cry about it:

Bulwark: Merged with hornskin, take 20-30% less damage from explosions as opposed to 50 [not preferable, but otherwise people would be sad, at least certain things like lance keep their ohk this way] and however much from blunt damage that retains the ohk of blunt weapons, alternatively just less damage from AI. Maybe make it cheaper, idk

Salveskin: My biggest problem with salveskin is that it completely negates the burn on first shot making incen basically useless. I would give incen back its burn on first shot, but give salveskin the following:
Burning takes longer to escalate
Bandage burning faster
Burn slower when downed [so people don't get sad]

Of course I'd rather take a more drastic route when it comes to reworking these traits, but people, as I said, would get very sad. However I could probably come up with some more drastic changes
Maybe decrease the cost of these traits to balance it out, idk [not bulwark]

[median zephyr]

i dont think thats the problem i have, like i dont sit there and intentionally use gator legs, but gator legs helps me move more not makes others move worse, traits that stop others loadouts is what my issue is

[thin remnant]

bloodless is fine, imo, but with a change that I would add, blood coagulation, where bleeding starts intense and gradually heals down to light, I would give bloodless the ability to go down to light bleeding faster, or start at medium

[median zephyr]

i think its fine against certain things, like cenni bleed, but punishing things like springfield bleed, is very sad

[thin remnant]

I personally think the biggest problem is that these traits target a very select few weapons, but nerf them drastically

if they must be kept in a similar way they are, making them more generalized but weaker overall might be good

[late yarrow]

sure you can make update suggestion,It's all cool whenever the game and playerbase befenefit 👍 go

[thin remnant]

done it already haha
like a few weeks ago

[median zephyr]

yes exactly, if someone brings a flechette shotgun, they should get the benefits of flechette, if ceni bleed is too strong (or unfun), it should be nerfed, not bandaided by a trait

[rain gale]

what time should servers be on /

[median zephyr]

7am CEST, i believe but who knows if there will be delays or whatever

[late yarrow]

you may disagree guys but most important is that you never use those at will imo

[thin remnant]

we all agree on one thing, that defensive traits are stupid xd

honestly they could remove them for all i care

[median zephyr]

exactly, bc theyre dependant on others loadouts, besides bullwark and your own explo crossbow or bombs or in theory flash bombs

[thin remnant]

I think bulwark is the worst offender honestly.

[median zephyr]

i WISH!!! it only pushes people to play HV or fmj or normal more. why run the fun ammo if it can be countered

[thin remnant]

50%.

50 PERCENT

[late yarrow]

pointless, stupid

[thin remnant]

and yet frag bombs remain unaffected?
the one meta throwable, is unaffected?

wtf??

[median zephyr]

it def depends, against a bomblance normal ammo, its DISGUSTING, against a frag bomb, its nothing

[thin remnant]

that's one of the biggest problems imo, frag bombs are already good enough.

why should they be indirectly buffed by a nonsensical trait?

[median zephyr]

great question! i dont have an answer for you

i hate defensive traits (not doctor or physician etc)

im saying ones that make other peoples weapons not funtion as normal

[thin remnant]

yeah those are fine, they don't nerf the enemy, they buff you, as you said

[median zephyr]

yes, thats what i want, idc if traits buff yourself (to an extent)

[thin remnant]

worst thing is, defensive traits make people even MORE scared to move away from good ol spitzer, long, fmj and hv.

[median zephyr]

obv i dont want (this trait makes your bullets do 2x dmg)

well yea, no counter to those, why run the fun situational possibly countered ammo, when i can have the frankly better bullet

[thin remnant]

give us "bulletproof" trait fr

50% less damage from bullets

[median zephyr]

i run custom ammo just bc its fun, but all these things just make me wanna run normal ammo, like i said if a specific ammo is too strong (lets say for example sparks incendiary) then that specific one should be nerfed

[median zephyr]

make it 100% less from fmj, HV, and spitzer and now were cooking

become invincable from dolch fmj spitzer mosin players

[chrome oyster]

@oak meadow hunt should not be able to make a properly designed system overheat (and certainly shouldn't damageany modern system it would just be a temporary performance loss), that said, I support lobby FPS caps

hopefully with the engine update that's just automatic. It sounds like Crytek is moving Hunt's UI from a very old UI framework

[oak meadow]

It's not about Crytek designing a overheat damage and protection system. FPS cap option for lobby and when game is out of focus (e.g you're browsing a video on YT while waiting) are relatively primitive in nature but will yield amazing quality of life for everyone. I dont have any overheating issues but a long session leads to a hot room. So I can only imagine summer days, playing Hunt, in a country with celsius degrees of 30 or more. Even Omaeda Studios, who revived Paragon (epic Games), a smallstudio, has implemented FPS cap at lobby.

[chrome oyster]

Yeah, they should definitely do it for power consumption/battery/overall system performance reasons

It's just not "overheating" that's really what should be the driving force

[late yarrow]

yet you still voted to remain things as they are 🤪 🤪

[oak meadow]

My system runs Hunt at lobby at about 130-180W (thats 140+ fps), even when game is unfocused (I believe). With a fps cap for lobby and out of focus window I can set it to 15-30 FPS and cut the wattage down to 50W or less (less electricity usage)

Its good for everyone. Environment, our systems, hot summer days, overheating everythjing. It affects even game sessions because partners with less issues (network, system over heat crashes) = you dont die because you're 2/3 of ateam.

@chrome oyster

[empty oasis]

@visual anchor #game-ideas message
Bear traps are tools in the new update
Alert traps send up a flare already

[late yarrow]

my efforts felt futile 😔 people just do not vote to endorse active skill usage. And we will just have poeple grabbing the passive defensive skills, even when it's all veteran's hatred😮‍💨 useless freaking skills

[visual anchor]

Sweet and I didn't know that. I never run them

[thin remnant]

me and peri and many many others do not like defensive traits.

we just don't necessarily like the exact solutions you proposed.

some seem pretty unbalanced

[late yarrow]

go with better ones, I hate defensive passive traits too

[thin remnant]

@visual anchor sorry but flare trap is literally just alert tripmine what?

[visual anchor]

Changed it. I don't run traps ever

[late yarrow]

@thin remnant It's all about "no-skill" not controlling them in any possible way

[thin remnant]

i think the problem is inconsistency with weapons that may be effective whether the enemy has the trait or not and, the main one, the fact it nerfs others, not buffing you.

[late yarrow]

guys, let's have it cleare as a teardrop. Players do hate absolutely unpredictable perks, but they like them and feel comfortable with having them if nobody else own those 🤷‍♂️

[late yarrow]

the problem is that newbish players get very uccostomed to "things"

[late yarrow]

most top tier weapons has very low perk demand 😉 🙂

Just fuck the comfort zone!

like "OMG WHAT WILL I DO WITHOUT SALVESKIN" - because I do assume to be the first one on the barbeque

ohhh, fuck you man, go through the flames and go for the kill

[empty oasis]

Are you advocating for Through the Fire and Flames?

[late yarrow]

This is not what i thought of but it relates to it "in a way"

[late yarrow]

I do feel kinda honored by your reply. But I hope you are not a discord bot.. Things can get weird lately,

[iron trench]

@stable path As you can see here my friend.. all 3 in the image are going to be in the game as playable hunters.. Crytek posted it days ago in the Instagram..

[empty oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-robot-head-silly-gif-14667350

[thin remnant]

@novel solar why

[leaden belfry]

cyber squirrel

[alpine tundra]

how can i solve it

[leaden belfry]

by waiting

[alpine tundra]

Is it under inspection?

[leaden belfry]

#general-announcements message

[stable path]

@iron trench sorry didn’t know

[storm pendant]

#game-ideas message

As cool as the Winchester 1895 is, we already have a gun that is essentially identical

I like the idea of a flash trap from Kody's suggestion, that is actually quite cool

[thin remnant]

what's with everyone suggesting winchester 1895 i dont get it ;-;

theres so many better weapons to add

people just only care about long ammo ig

[storm pendant]

It is an extremely cool gun, and before the mako it made more sense because we didn't have a gun like it

But... mako

[thin remnant]

just make a mako swift at that point lmao

thats essentially what the 1895 would be

[storm pendant]

I want a 3-barrel derringer in Medium Ammo that's a 1 slot, close-range double tap monster on a budget.

[storm pendant]

Yeah pretty much

[thin remnant]

howdah pistol. add a howdah pistol [4 barrels usually, there were 2-barrels in real life so maybe a 2 barrel variant idk].

and i 100% agree, a howdah pistol would be an awesome addition

[half stag]

to be frank, they could've just limited the winchester 1895's stripper clip version to a sswift variant, with the base version loading single rounds through the top

[storm pendant]

Doesn't the howdah chainfire, though?

[thin remnant]

so then it's literally just a mako

[vocal sand]

Its the game up?

[thin remnant]

so did revolving rifles. and yet they added those to hunt.

real life malfunctions don't matter for hunt

[storm pendant]

No I mean wasn't the Howdah supposed to chain fire?

All 4 barrels at once

[thin remnant]

??????????? does it????

maybe thats a certain model?

[storm pendant]

I thought that was the purpose of the howdah

To fire 4 shots at once

[thin remnant]

no but the update is installable

[storm pendant]

I'm not super well versed on super old guns, my specialty is like, 1910s-1960s

[vocal sand]

Do we know when the game will be up?

[thin remnant]

not exactly.

people have estimates.

[vocal sand]

based on past updates?

[thin remnant]

#1272926908526362644 message

they've given an estimate here

WAIT

NO

MY BAD

THAT'S WHEN THE DOWNTIME STARTED

[vocal sand]

Nah, if you think about it

[thin remnant]

but they estimated 48 hours from then.

[vocal sand]

you're right

just do +48 hours

from the time it went down

[thin remnant]

yeah thats peoples estimates but its not for certain <3

[vocal sand]

Thanks brother

[hasty vine]

To be fair chain fire isn’t a thing with cartridge guns. The biggest problem with cartridge revolver rifles is the spray on the supporting arm. Chain fire was really only a concern on cap and ball weapons.

[thin remnant]

thx

[storm pendant]

@crude karma It's not quite a Khopesh but Arlington Grave has a similar form factor :)

Sgt Bridgewater's machete skin

More of a short-saber though

@raw forum It's the year the new update takes place in.

It's a way to rebrand the game and show that the game world has progressed, essentially

[raw forum]

@storm pendant we dont need it ...

[storm pendant]

We don't need an update either, but considering that this is the biggest set of changes Hunt has seen in a single update, like, ever, the game's name is changing to reflect it. It's a "relaunch", as silly of a PR stunt that may sound.

Some people will never be happy I guess.

[coarse breach]

holy shit is the new menù terrible wtf XD if the old one was bad the new one is even worse everything is a nested mess with no end in sight and hard to navigate....welp i guess i'll have to get used to it since i bet the devs won't ever improve it

[narrow wharf]

Take me back to the beta menu bro

[queen jungle]

new lighting color balance is worse

[cyan cobalt]

The new menu while equipping your gear is a big step back. It is so slow to go in and out of every item between selecting.

[tidal ingot]

but you only need one click for the shop or bb reload.

[fervent laurel]

Engine update did not help with derender. Now its even worse than before - everything derenders.

[young bison]

i want old ui back

[steel locust]

I want old back for the because the menus is not fluide i'm lost WTF ! it's menu is for avantage consol or PC ?!

[rain geode]

we burning way to fast

[teal parcel]

Consoletard UI, my condolences if they bet on getting more consoletards on their game with this change

[supple spear]

This update is trash. Lost FPS? UI is dreadful and it just feels sluggish

[mighty wharf]

UI so awful even console players hate it

[idle echo]

Whenever i enter a game my mouse cursor stays on screen is there any fix for that?

[mighty wharf]

I will for the life of me never understand why game developers seriously think SIDEWAYS scrolling is something people want

[steel locust]

yeah i have 15 fps max before 120

[mighty wharf]

Also that. Everything constantly despawns behind my own weapon, much worse than before. This ain't a good way to re-launch a game

[supple spear]

@steel locust Lmao aint beed that bad. Last update I was constant 144+ now it goes as low as 100.. you can feel the difference. Sluggish

[past tartan]

Missing in hunter selection an option to Sort to Favorites.

with another selection you can get this, but its not on the default sorting options.

[iron tulip]

The new UI is really not that good, im fine with brining the old one back but not this...

[formal hatch]

new UI is dreadful, can I have my hunters list back? it used to look so nice, now it looks like CoD...

also we still cant assign health chunks to loadouts, smh

[queen jungle]

The new lighting on the old map looks way off. Like total loss of color detail. This is the firing range, so hopefully the old maps are still being worked on.

please don't think you guys have to go ham just because you have new settings with the engine. The new engine update will benefit regardless if you match the old, more white balanced lighting values because you're still going to be getting better unfirmed lighting with how the new engine update renders.

Here’s my review over 5 games on ps5 with max settings. Looks are awesome,sounds perfect, gameplay good,UI garbage, the kill page when you get killed worse then last gen, only problem is people with very high ping lagging all over the play having to shoot them 10 times also hit reg garbage. That’s my rant/review

[iron tulip]

even the console players are disliking the UI 😂

[fluid osprey]

I hit escape ONCE during the queue for matchmaking and I get sent through multiple pop ups like my pc's been infected with ransomware

what da hell

[iron tulip]

get hunt UI'd

[queen jungle]

So glad I didn’t have to buy this game again worse then concords beta I wanted to play cause they said they were putting ping limits on ya right had a Russian lagging all over shoot 10 times no hit reg

[gleaming lantern]

New UI is.... Let's say very bad

[mighty wharf]

hair loss 1896

[formal hatch]

defintely the most UI of all time

[muted carbon]

Favorites needs to stick on, have to click the favorite icon every time i want to see what I have set up as a favorite item

Icons for amunition type are way too small, can't see them on a 42"screen. Also, lots of the buttons are too small. Also, start button on the left, an improvement? Looks like fiddling for the sake of it.

Opposing players do not render in until they have shot me.

[fluid osprey]

lol

[iron tulip]

lmao

[hasty girder]

you know shit got real, when the console players are calling the UI, garbage

[muted carbon]

Where did the resolution scaling slider go? Can't run native screen resolution and scale it down any more? Munted my frame rate...

I haven't run resolution this low since the glass tube days. fml

[void bloom]

wdym use an upscaler?

[muted carbon]

The graphics settings usewd to have a resolution scaling slider

You could run screen native resolution and pull the slider down untill you got the frame rate you wanted/needed

[void bloom]

well u dont need a slider just use an upscaler on quality for 67% rez scale or go lower if needed

a slider could work but it's unnecessary for most users

[radiant river]

@graceful skiff did they remove electric lamp?

[muted carbon]

The slider was already there dude

[void bloom]

just use DLSS/FSR at the specific resolution scale u need

[gleaming lantern]

true

[delicate geyser]

This ui feels like a downgrade from what it was before

[gleaming lantern]

The most amount of UI

[muted carbon]

I'm playing on a pre DLSS/FSR graphics card.

[slow valve]

guys real question what do you think about new UI

nevermind u said it

[muted carbon]

Like I said, they munted my frame rate

[void bloom]

what card?

[delicate geyser]

Please make an update so that we can use the old UI...

[muted carbon]

GTX980ti

Worked fine on the old engine with the correct settings

[void bloom]

FSR should work on it fine I think, u can try NIS in Nvidia control panel to use as an image scaler

[slow valve]

0 joke caus of ui i think ima gona ALT F4 and play mincraft

[muted carbon]

nfi dude, I'll have a look ty

[pearl radish]

new UI is horrendous sorry

things that could be seen on one screen now require clicking through 100 buttons

buttons all over the place

there was a whole video on how it was all going to be streamlined?

[vast quarry]

does the game look worse for anyone else using the same settings as before? can't even properly see white shirts