feedback-discussion

[hybrid forum]

that's why they constantly avoid nerfing it

[hot vigil]

Again remember that is just the start point and would be good for another 25-50m depending on ammo type/mv.
So it might be as bad as we think.
That said they might need like 5m more to their starting stat, but we'll see

[bright plank]

It's kind of a shame they only showed the drop with long ammo weapons at very long ranges in the newest video.

[thin remnant]

Nah even with an extra 25m pax will need to adjust for drop within compound range. That'll suck

[hybrid forum]

pistols are the only thing I'm worried about in the new update

they're a hair away from ruining shotgun loadouts

[thin remnant]

Compound fights should be entirely unaffected by drop outside of very special cases

Plus, if the bullet drops even a pixel, there is possibility for a shot that would've hit head, that falls down just to chest level due to drop

[hot vigil]

Well, they are pistols I guess. They shouldn't be the go to long range unless specialized with HV and variants.
Rn we have the issue that FMJ is just THE best option on thos guns.
This will change that

[thin remnant]

Exactly. Long range.
35m is not long range and imo shouldn't need the player to account for drop

Of course pistols might start dropping sooner but barely drop for some reason, I'm not trying to bash on it without trying it

But that is my main concern

[hot vigil]

Eeeeeh, this give a space for Compact/Vandal/Shorty variants.

Again, I wouldn't be shocked if the pistols gets +5m eventually.

[thin remnant]

Those were already in a good place imo

[hot vigil]

But I understand the idea behind their current numbers

[hot vigil]

God no, only the Cenny/Obrez is worth bringing.
Cenny bc of silenced + HV/poison and Obrez bc it is a 2-slot mosin.

[thin remnant]

Winny vandal was decent

[hot vigil]

was

[thin remnant]

And Romero hc

[hot vigil]

Shotguns are different and don't competent with pistols

[rotund obsidian]

gotta be a real psychopath to take romero hc to give extra range for a loadout with a primary shotgun.

[thin remnant]

I'm glad the springy compact is getting some love

I used to main that thing

[hot vigil]

I ran Rival w. DB, with a Rival HC w. DB!

[thin remnant]

Btw owo Im not disagreeing with you ftr

[hot vigil]

Still think Springy C should become Springy P. It would help it as the "pocket marksman" option.

[thin remnant]

Just expressing my main concern with drop

[hot vigil]

No worries

[thin remnant]

What would the difference be?

[hot vigil]

Similar sway to the rifle versions.

Or less increase of sway

[thin remnant]

I posted the Lancaster btw <3

[hot vigil]

Saw

[thin remnant]

What's the downside then?

I forget what else it loses

[hot vigil]

Think Dum Dum might be overkill tho

[thin remnant]

Time for take 4

[hot vigil]

Less dmg, Less mv

[thin remnant]

200m/s is absurdly hard to hit right? I'm not sure

[hot vigil]

Not at the range you wanna use it tho. For me it would be like giving it hv

[thin remnant]

Alright here we go again

Would it be balance-able with even less MV and/or capacity or just a big nuh uh

[hot vigil]

Naw, just don't give it Dum Dum (or HV).
It is like how Martini Henry shouldn't have HV or Spark shouldn't have Dum Dum :p

[thin remnant]

I don't think there's a weapon in the game that has dumdum that decreases damage, that'd be convenient lol

I like how I keep automatically trying to sneakily buff it XD

[hot vigil]

Nope, my point is more that some combinations of custom ammo and weapons are just too strong.

[thin remnant]

Agree, like if sparks had dumdum or if martini had dumdum

[hot vigil]

Any long ammo basically

But yeah, like, I wouldn't say Dum Dum breaks the Lancaster, but most likely 99% of the down votes lol

[thin remnant]

Id run Lancaster explosive with Springfield explosive tbh

[hot vigil]

@hybrid forum what a mad lad weapon, honestly just don't give it FMJ and it is fine

Also think it doesn't need to be special. Just ensure it have like a Winnie C amount of bullets.

[hybrid forum]

even less so

[hot vigil]

When loaded

[hybrid forum]

I put 16 spare

and 8 inside

so 3 runs total

[hot vigil]

Seems fine yeah

[hybrid forum]

however you get 8 bullets from a crate so you get 1 run from 1 crate

it's gonna be an ammo waster for sure

btw @hot vigil whats ur opinion on the other guns?

[thin remnant]

Could you partially load it and get a partial run?

[hybrid forum]

maybe it could be a swift so no partials

[thin remnant]

Or can you swap weapon mid-run to cancel it?

[hybrid forum]

you can do that with avto

and it eats the bullets it's supposed to shoot

[thin remnant]

Doesn't that eat the ammo tho

Yeah

Maybe it could be swift and load 4 shots at a time? Idk

Might make it too strong

[tardy quartz]

#feedback message
Yeah, I agree this was uncalled for, nerfing poison against it's primary use (at least for me, personally) with the argument that "Immolators are elite enemies..." felt hollow considering you introduced a throwing spear that one-shots Immolators with the same patch 😛 now the spear does what poison arrows used to do and compact poison still kills a meathead - those look like an "elite enemy" from half a compound away

[flat sandal]

#game-ideas message @thin remnant
why not not have it consume the explosive. it would make it a bit more useful. would have to be one time only per explosive somehow though

[thin remnant]

People would just fake explosive cooks over and over again and spam it

I suppose you could make it a one time use but at that point, why?

I think the implementation of my suggestion there would be best as a simple QoL feature, not a Dauntless buff

[flat sandal]

second time it's gone

to sort of pretend the fuse is gone then. can't have it shorter the second time either. perhaps thats too complicated idk

[thin remnant]

I mean you could, but that feels kind of gimmicky compared to keeping the consistency of it disappearing when using it on an airborne or already thrown explosive
May as well keep it working as dauntless currently does in that way

[flat sandal]

yeah probably

[thin remnant]

#game-ideas message @tired girder how high kill range we talkin?

And how much damage at point blank [against bosses]

[tired girder]

In real lid it was about 30 m

[thin remnant]

so then what in-game

[tired girder]

And so I say 15

[thin remnant]

isnt that romero

[tired girder]

Aiming

[tired girder]

Not with reg

[thin remnant]

aiming doesnt affect shotgun spread <3

[tired girder]

It can give a better idea of were shooting

[thin remnant]

I would be fine with it only if it has a mildly better [or maybe same?] kill range as a romero but much more damage in close quarters, making it a boss melter

[tired girder]

But bosses I say probably 20 of there health if hit all pellets

Percent

[thin remnant]

and also how bad is the spread? because if it has insane spread but high kill range thatd be a recipe for disaster with really low-skill unearned kills, not having to aim at all

[tired girder]

I say like 5-10 m more than Romeo

[thin remnant]

and insane wallbang coverage

[tired girder]

In irl it was pretty high but in game I say slightly higher than Romeo

It should have the highest spread in my opinion

The reload should be insane to make up for it

Like 5 seconds

What you think

I honestly just want one don’t care how it turns out they cool af

[thin remnant]

i think itd be cool if it stored two ammo types and, like a real blunderbuss, has a lot of unique ammo types

if it were to get added, that's how i would want it.

[tired girder]

Yes

[thin remnant]

Shattered glass, rocks, idk

[tired girder]

The real blunder buss is known for being very deadly in combat and being one of the longest range non slug shotgun

[thin remnant]

and being able to fire just about anything

[tired girder]

I say we should get bolo rounds

[tired girder]

You have a guy on a canon 10 meters away deleted

Or like 4 slug rounds in one shot

Like real one

[thin remnant]

sounds like the new 2* meta xd

or console

[tired girder]

Should have a small spread

[tired girder]

Yes but fun

More for memes but

I would love to see it happen

[thin remnant]

i want a lancaster

i feel like thatd also be a pretty fun unique gun to see in the game

and its very highly requested [i think blunderbuss is also pretty requested but not as much]
blunderbuss would definitely be fun for memes

[tired girder]

I was just about to talk about how I love your idea for Lancaster

Feels like sparks pistol but four barrels

🤣

[rotund obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-cat-meme-face-cat-shocked-orange-cat-what-da-hell-gif-15285770798606642445

WITH WIDER SPREAD?????

[tired girder]

Blunder buss is known as the deadliest shotgun for a reason

[thin remnant]

doesnt sparks pistol get 149 damage

[tired girder]

Yes

[thin remnant]

It'd be meta af in console XD

[tired girder]

But I mean looks whise

[rotund obsidian]

the REAL sparks pistol with 4 barrels

the weezer gun

[thin remnant]

i dont think anura really cares about the stats, just wants a blunderbuss in the game in any capacity.

Imo if they add a blunderbuss it should specialize in crazy damage at close range for bosses and meatheads and unique special ammo, but itd be hard to make so much special ammo for one gun

[tired girder]

I mean I was wanting an accurate blunderbuss not a fake one

[thin remnant]

There are certain things you gotta do for balance though

Like irl sparks would one tap to the body

[tired girder]

I don’t care if it’s a piece of shit I’ll use it

[thin remnant]

XD

console should lowkey have different balancing to pc

[tired girder]

Yea

[rotund obsidian]

I just think it'd be horrendously unbalanced if we had a shotgun with not only a more forgiving spread, but also like, 30%-70% more lethal range over the current longest ranged shotgun

[thin remnant]

the fact they have to nerf stuff like explosive to help out consoles but make it useless in pc is crazy

[tired girder]

We get shortend of the stick 😭

But honestly they should make console and pc different things entirely and the option to fight each other with the same balancing

because it’s not fair they nerf stuff for y’all and let us still die cuz we cant flick properly without a billion sensitivity

Just a thought

Actually you know what if you want you can write a blunder buss and I’ll delete mine because I understand balancing issues

@thin remnant

[thin remnant]

naw

[tired girder]

Ok

I’ll leave it

[thin remnant]

you keep yours but you feel free to edit it with the feedback we have given, idk

i reacted with thinking because i dont know about the proposed stats, but the concept could be cool

[tired girder]

I was just being historically accurate

[thin remnant]

yeah i get that

game balance gotta come first imo

[tired girder]

Also in real life the reload is about 8-10 seconds thats balanced right

🤣 right

[thin remnant]

I mean if the range is as proposed as well as the spread, you basically get a free kill at the start of every fight if you're fighting in a compound or building
[also the sparks LRR is 4 seconds for comparison and doesnt feel THAT slow]

[tired girder]

I have an idea

We make it so you have to hit a lot of pellets to kill so the spread can pose an issue

[thin remnant]

i think the best bet for a blunderbuss would be to not recommend many if any stats and just leave it as the rough concept of a blunderbuss, leaving balance to the imagination

thats what i would recommend if you wanna likesmaxx

[tired girder]

@thin remnant drilling marksman yes or no

🤣

[thin remnant]

@tired girder you could still explain what a blunderbuss is in real life and what it looks like, maybe attach an image idk

if you want

[tired girder]

Eh no one is interested seems like a waste of time

[thin remnant]

k, fair enough <3

[tired girder]

Still a nice gun 🤷‍♂️

Romeos good enough

[warm cliff]

Romero pennyshot is just a shitty blunderbuss. Easy

[tired girder]

Blunderbuss is the longest range shotgun to exist during the 1800s and 1900s

The Romeo regular is a shitty blunderbuss

Pennyshot a lost cause

[sand kiln]

@tired girder your post has been deleted due to "low effort". Please attach to #game-ideas guidelines (they are pinned in the channel) by adding more information/description about your suggestion.

[tired girder]

Sorry

People complaining about what I said

I was gonna anyway

[tired girder]

In detail it was long but then people said skillless and op so I decided to just debate what to say then I forgot about it sorry for the inconvenience

[sand kiln]

Dw

[vernal axle]

@drifting monolith For me, I queued to trios and 1st game only had solos with like 2 duos. and next game was about the same, I think its just because maintenance just finished. around 1k players on steamcharts last I checked. or are you talking about only quickplay is working for you?

[drifting monolith]

Nah... i mean bounty huint

When did they finish the maintenance?

[vernal axle]

1hr 20 mins ago

[drifting monolith]

I thought at 10?

ok

[vernal axle]

steam charts shows almost 7k players currently now, maybe youre gonna have more luck now. a while ago it was around 1k so my games were just mainly solos looking for matches on trios

[drifting monolith]

i´ll try. thx

[thin remnant]

@bold valley rainbow six siege in hunt xd

[bold valley]

Shit, that's a thing in Rainbow six? I never played

[thin remnant]

Nah just the concept of putting a breakable barricade on windows/doors lol

[upbeat axle]

Crytek needs to fix their fucking Boxname problem, the game is literally unplayable with this many asian hackers.

[thin remnant]

My man, hackers can speak English too-

It's a cheater problem not an Asian problem

[upbeat axle]

then why are literally every sus acc listed with chinese/japanese lettering, and stating their country of origin?

[thin remnant]

Well one, no, not literally every one, and two, you may come across more Asian hackers than American hackers for example, but that doesnt make Asians part of or relevant to this potential problem.

The problem would be anticheat, not Asians

[rotund obsidian]

because ppl think it's funny to farm cheater comments by making their name Chinese characters? plenty of NA accounts do it

[upbeat axle]

Yes. it does. you literally said we come accros more asian hackers the american hackers, I HAVE LEGIT NEVER SEEN ANY OTHER HACKER THEN ASIAN EXCUSE ME.

[thin remnant]

you.

You are not everyone.

Plus, like tacomanx said, people find it funny to farm cheater comments

[upbeat axle]

so they are purposly creating hatred for another country this way huh

[thin remnant]

Even if, theoretically, it was almost only Asians who cheated, that's still irrelevant.

What does their country have to do with banning them?

[thin remnant]

I mean maybe, idk

[upbeat axle]

seems to be a cultural thing over there, to hack in games almost.

[thin remnant]

Lots of them probably don't realise they're creating hatred and just do it for funsies without a second thought

[thin remnant]

Well now you're just making assumptions about a culture youre not a part of.

[upbeat axle]

i am part indonesian.

xD

[thin remnant]

Okay..?

I'm tired correct me if I'm wrong but Indonesian is not Asian right?

[upbeat axle]

then what is it if not asian ? 😛

[thin remnant]

If so, why have you been referring to Asians in third person this whole time????

"over there"

[upbeat axle]

because you are the kind of person i like to mess with

[thin remnant]

Uh huh.

[upbeat axle]

you respond very politically correct

it means nothing for the arguement, but i just had no other retort.

[thin remnant]

Of course, so it's been intentional this whole time to mess with me and be clever. Totally

[flat sandal]

what are the arguments for downvoting custom lobbies I wonder?

[upbeat axle]

your are probbably right, not all asians hack, but even that streamer Huuge showed us over 25% of the games there have a hacker in it.

so

[thin remnant]

Oh well thanks for admitting that xd

[upbeat axle]

numbers dont lie

[flat sandal]

oh dear, what's going on here lol

[upbeat axle]

nothing dude, dont take life too seriously

[thin remnant]

Uhhh nothing

hides hands behind back cutely

[upbeat axle]

im just venting because ive played against boxname asian players for the entire week... blaming the issues of the game on them.

but it aint right and i know.. im just mad

[thin remnant]

xd fair enough

[flat sandal]

perhaps they are refugees

[thin remnant]

I admit there may be more Asian hackers tham other places, but I feel like just "hacker problem" is a more accurate description

[flat sandal]

like, server refugees that is^^

[upbeat axle]

i refugee to believe that

[flat sandal]

I would leave the region if the 25% thing is true^^

[thin remnant]

Yeah that number is crazy

[upbeat axle]

sadly it is, i know oceana servers are very unstable and very lackluster when it comes to connectivity in asia itself

[thin remnant]

ALTHOUGH a lot of English speakers probably server migrate to Asia to cheat

[upbeat axle]

chances are you only get 2-3 good games in a day if you are from regions less developed with infrastructure

[thin remnant]

I'm an OCE player and just play at active times.

[flat sandal]

well, then we should be welcoming 😄

[thin remnant]

I don't come across many cheaters

[upbeat axle]

im all for being welcoming, if the client side rendering of hunt would be done differently and not give people with high ping a strange advantage. thats what im tired of really.

[flat sandal]

oh no

[upbeat axle]

getting killed while already being in cover just feels bad.

[flat sandal]

supposedly it's not an advantage

I decided to believe that

[upbeat axle]

it sure as hell looks like it to me xD

my fire ammo cant pen steel beams

[flat sandal]

yeah but you don't realise the situations that you had an advantage

[upbeat axle]

please explain, because to me it doesnt look like that at all

[flat sandal]

I can't without being wrong a lot but it makes sense in my head

there is a video that has be cited a lot

[upbeat axle]

the most honest thing someone has said to me today/

[flat sandal]

it's complicated and hard to write out too with this ping between two clients and the server

[upbeat axle]

alright ill take your view and consider it next time i get eggrolled

[flat sandal]

it makes life easier 😄

[upbeat axle]

isnt that a damn weird thing? some things you just have no power over and have to accept them for what they are.
But when you ask people for advice, most will say that you can do whatever you set your mind to.

[flat sandal]

I ger mad when the servers are down during my game time^^

haha, the mind is a weird thing indeed. we all create our own little reality^^

[upbeat axle]

yet, here we are, in this weird MMORPG.

from the makers of : Go outside, and Go outside 2 without a jacket. Society, the new hot game.

[flat sandal]

ping is a really unfortunate reality that we have to accept

stupid physics

[upbeat axle]

would be fine, if it wasnt client side rendered.

[flat sandal]

it's a trade off

[upbeat axle]

but i get why they choose to render client side. because it broadens the playerbase for people with ping between 10 and 100.

[flat sandal]

we would complain about other things if it wasnt

[upbeat axle]

true, we ARE people, after all

[flat sandal]

monkeys really

who think they are people 😄

[upbeat axle]

i like to think of us as kids who never grow up. because monkeys are badass and we are squishy sacks of water.

[flat sandal]

can't find that video rn. it's worth a watch. anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX4fbGVvrVA&t=41s

I think it was this one

hmm, I remember it going in quite a bit of detail so maybe there was another one

[thin remnant]

I think they mean that in a situation where it looks like you're being shot after already getting into impenetrable cover, on their screen they did hit you normally anyways, so it doesn't make a difference to them.

However I could see the point of them being able to shoot you later than they should even after you've reacted appropriately to the information you've gathered and gotten behind cover, but on their screen you haven't gotten behind cover and reacted that fast

@signal mural well said

I worry that, like you said with poison and antidote, people would start making counter play to the challenges, making them annoying to complete

Like running antidote if there's a poison challenge.

[vivid totem]

quickplay now has sbmm???

also mmr changes? haven't played in a couple of days, logging back = minus one star, lol?

[signal mural]

Thanks

[frozen crater]

At this point I'm wondering if crytek is strategically not testing qa before releasing patches

[jagged wagon]

Its not even a patch, is was announced as maintenance followed by a second shorter maintenance. Maintenance should not be breaking the game to this degree, or at all.

[frozen crater]

Ah, of course

With the huge changes to mmr distribution and matchmaking it feels like its own patch

[brave sandal]

Pls remove this matchmaking

[vivid totem]

eu servers are dead for me somehow, ping is +150 compared to normal

[vivid totem]

yeah, wth, where are the notes and such

[harsh topaz]

something is off. we just got a trio amongs us, but we have duos enebled.

got recording if crytec wants it, but they should be able to se that trios enters duo gameplays

[steep grail]

Matchmaking is broken...

[scenic walrus]

@harsh topaz new MMR patch broke a ferw things....

[steep grail]

Match making is broken
Shotgun damage seems off
Teams of 3 in 2v2 matches
legendary hunters arent giving as many trait points, i'm only getting like 5 trait points per legendary hunter now..

[queen jungle]

Roll back the update 🤣

[winged skiff]

Game is fast heading down the drain

[queen jungle]

yea the 3 man teams in duos is fucked.

[frosty mirage]

"surprise motherlover"

[grim veldt]

One day crytek will QA patches. Today is not the day.

[scenic bridge]

These new matchmaking changes boosted me to a six star and now I cant find anyone to que with in random matchmaking

just endless filling up team

[north portal]

me too and im 4 star @scenic bridge

[queen jungle]

That day will never come.

[queen jungle]

It's not even cause of that, randoms is completely broken.

[pine dust]

same, none of my friends play hunt either

atp, i'll take bad teammates solos gets boring real quick

[subtle meadow]

@pine dust im down to play

[pine dust]

Playing some Elden Ring rn maybe later if you're down

[subtle meadow]

@pine dust yea just dm any time

[steep grail]

When is it going to be fixed?

[placid sleet]

So will 1080p be forced after the engine upgrade?

[queen jungle]

Any fix for the neverending matchmaking yet?

[empty oasis]

@queen jungle Your post "Title: roll back last update" has been removed due to "No troll/low effort ideas are allowed".
If you'd like to leave game feedback, please submit to #feedback

[sand kiln]

@gaunt abyss Your post has been deleted due to "Low effort/trolling". Please follow the guidelines pinned in #game-ideas when using the channel.

[thin remnant]

The way heathen says it is better >:)

[sand kiln]

Both are fine

[thin remnant]

Nahhhhhhhh

Need the title

[steel shoal]

@last ferry I love the idea of the Shepard mob but given that he's probably no more stronger than a typical grunt I doubt him dropping loot would be healthy

loot is supposed to be somewhat difficult to come by

[elfin narwhal]

they deleted my suggestion where i said to revert that changes and actualy test stuff before they release it

lol

[sand kiln]

Fineee, I will copy Heathen

@last meteor Your post has been deleted due to "low effort/trolling". Please follow the guidelines pinned in #game-ideas when using the channel. Also using #feedback if wanna express your opinion, disgust or positive feedback to devs.

[last ferry]

I was considering having the shepard use hive bombs and stalker beetles as ranged attacks? thoughts on this , i can edit it.

[mild spade]

Everyone is blowing them up. I can't even get a match. This is just wild. Hopefully not a sign of the upcoming update.

[steel shoal]

I like the idea of stalker beetles being weaponized more than I like the Hive bombs, since we already have that mob for the hives.
Adding increased difficulty would make the loot actually worth it

[elfin narwhal]

Hopefully not but we will see

[last meteor]

my post still had more effort put into it then the patch that broke the game

[queen jungle]

[thin remnant]

@last ferry interesting idea, imo the spawnrate should be around 25-20% though

maybe 30

and a limit on how many could spawn on one map

[thin remnant]

@late yarrow not trying to mod but read the suggestions ideas rules lol

[vernal plank]

@midnight cypress You mean in the Shooting Range? Polygon makes no sense 😄

[midnight cypress]

Yea

[midnight cypress]

yea forgot how its named

[late yarrow]

I appreciate it.

[thin remnant]

[i was referring to the no discussion/response rule thing to clarify just in case, np]

[floral nova]

@inner quiver #game-ideas message if the fence is low enough you can jump over it without losing your momentum. You have to split your jump and vault key bindings. I have mine like this:
Space -> jump
C/V -> vault

(also B-> de-bleeding, so sometimes I die of bleeding because I miss the B)

[thin remnant]

alt to vault is the best

[floral nova]

I find alt to be difficult to press

I dunno if it's my keyboards or what

I find difficult to use the thumb to press a button that's below my palm

*under my palm

[thin remnant]

Thumb?? nah bro you press it with your pinky

[floral nova]

that's even worse 🤔

I have alt below my middlefinger, under my palm

[thin remnant]

no no no, you press it with your right hand pinky

🤦‍♂️

[drowsy isle]

Why are they changing their music before the servers even fucking work

[floral nova]

what

[floral nova]

what

[thin remnant]

just reach over it aint that hard [im trolling]

[i press it with my thumb]

[floral nova]

😂

[drowsy isle]

WeRe aDiNg CoNtEnT, cant play

[thin remnant]

its kinda hard to press ig, but i find i dont vault often enough for it to matter

[floral nova]

sadly a ton of ladges or whatnot seem low enough to be jumpable, but then you can't

[thin remnant]

my alt key is under the very right of my palm

so not too hard for me

whys you @ yourself

[drowsy isle]

I don’t know, I thought it would reply to that specific message

[drowsy isle]

?

[thin remnant]

lol just edit it you dont need to reply

you can press the edit button to edit your message and change what it says

[drowsy isle]

Well only lets me in solo

[floral nova]

#general-announcements message

[thin remnant]

can we still play solo though?

apparently he got let in solo

[floral nova]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thin remnant]

@upbeat slate we're not allowed to repost ideas btw [im not a mod or anything just letting u know]

[floral nova]

but the video is almost all text 😂 #game-ideas message
@upbeat slate you could also paste the text on discord

[tribal wyvern]

@broken moat That 24kill guy, how experienced was his teammates? If they're 5 star with hundreds of kills etc, it seems very likely.
You can question him being 5 star already, but I kinda like that people cant use an inexperienced or lower ranked to face easier matches.

[dusky tapir]

@upbeat slate You fight the good fight brother

#game-ideas message

The odd part is that the Terminus does portray this same mechanism correctly

You could probably keep the weird elevator raise / rack as a partial reload penalty as well. Gives even more depth to picking when to reload the Lebel

May I suggest a timestamp to immediately skip to the animation montage?

[thin remnant]

A contributor supporting someone who's acshually breaking a rule smh

Guess you gotta get uncontributed

[dusky tapir]

I don't see the rule being broken and in any case you can file a complain with the janitors 🤓

[thin remnant]

Aren't you not technically acshually allowed to repost your suggestions

[dusky tapir]

complaints to the janitor's inbox

[thin remnant]

Ok what adress

[dusky tapir]

also you're breaking rule 9.2

🤓

[thin remnant]

NOOOOO

What's rule 9.2, no asking for personal details? No pseudomodding?

Ok I surrender myself

Guess you gotta ban me :(

"mentioning a rule allowed" 🤓 acshually

Ok I'm done now

[versed hare]

The new post in #general-announcements is not even acknowledging the matchmaking problems

[tribal wyvern]

It does though?

"We've also made recent changes to our matchmaking rating system. We have moved to an Open Skill MMR system, and calculations have been adjusted to reduce volatility and address complaints related to de-ranking issues through soul survivor or solo play, whether intentional or as a by-product of repeated revives and deaths. "

Or did you mean something else

It also adresses the duo facing trio matchmaking issue

[versed hare]

nothing you copypasted is acknowledging the matchmaking problems

it only mentions the changes to MMR

[tribal wyvern]

Can you elaborate then ?

Because i checked through feedback and people mentioned they're put in different brackets than before, which was adressed.
They face as they call it uneven matchmakings, which they prob changed to. That you cannot use a 3 star with a 6 star to face 4 stars etc

Which is good, my friend got on the positive side of that.
He played with a 2 & 3 star friend, hes 5 star. He won every game just mowing down players.

[tribal wyvern]

Because the only other "matchmaking issue" is duo facing trio. Which is adressed

[weak plank]

revert this new mmr change

[versed hare]

my brother for 19 hours i am unable to find a group

[tribal wyvern]

See, that helps alot. To elaborate on what your issues are, thank you.

[versed hare]

its not a me issue

[tribal wyvern]

You're the first as i can see reporting it so far

[versed hare]

its a problem thousands of people have because the service is not working

and it has yet to even be adressed in the announcements

or fixed

[weak plank]

are you trying to queue for NA servers?

[versed hare]

EU, but does not matter what servers

grouping simply is currently not working

[tribal wyvern]

But thats the queueig to get a random member ?
Or are you in a team?

Make sure both of you have the same region selected

Also secondary if that option is still there.
I havnt turned on my game today yet

"Additionally, as a first step towards isolating our server regions, there is now a temporary requirement that players be set to the same primary region in their clients for invites to work properly."

This could be the reason, if you've not tried it.

[versed hare]

The screenshot clearly sais random team of 2

idk why you talk about inviting friends now

[tribal wyvern]

It could be a UI bug for all i know when you trying to queue.
As i stated, not turned on my game yet. Thats why im asking

And because they did release information about regions for grouping with premades.
I wanted to help thats all.

[versed hare]

the auto grouping is broken since yesterday

i was able to match only once after yesterdays restart

other then that you need to invite friends (also seems to be broken now) or do solo

[stark fulcrum]

Nah randoms still bugged my man

Sitting 20 minutes now looking for a team, tried different regions and restarted game.

Many others having this issue atm

[versed hare]

Yet the latest announcement is not even acknowledging it

Despite the problem existing for almost a full day now

[stark fulcrum]

Thats my worry, they haven't said anything about the issue and seemed to think they had it all wrapped up in the post lol

I'm sure they'll handle it soon

[versed hare]

@zealous citrus Sorry for ping but why do you announce the fixes and changes to MMR but don't acknowledge the ongoing random group problems?

[mild spade]

@versed hare - there are a TON of bugs still:

• Getting random hunters with a large and medium gun but no quarter master;
• Random Queuing not working;
• Trios in Duos;
• completely broken MMR
• Cant add traits, tools, or consumables;
• Trait points added incorrectly.

Honestly, this update needs to be undone and retested.

[versed hare]

So the trio in duos problem is not fixed yet?

[mild spade]

Not according to other discord channels, for me I can't even get in to see the games cause my queue doesn't work, which seems like a baseline issue to address.

[zealous citrus]

We acknowledge the issue. Our team is working on all of them.

[versed hare]

Its not mentioned in the announcement tho

People assume you either don't know about it or don't want to talk about it or its fixed

[mild spade]

Thank you for acknowledging here, but Pvt. Chill's point is valid. Might be worth a quick: "we are working on ongoing issues" post otherwise you will all keep getting spammed.

[versed hare]

Sorry to be a pain in the ass I just feel like communication is key when a service is unusable for almost a whole day.

[zealous citrus]

no worries, a lot of things happening at the same time. We know everything that is posted here an in other channels thanks to our mods

[crimson mirage]

i also cant group....takes hours! just soloplay works wtf

[signal mural]

Are the Twitch drops still starting tonight regardless of the maintenance induced issues?

[versed hare]

I completely forgot about the drops, must be hell to be them right now. Hope they find a fix soon and everything goes well.

[fast forge]

Hello Devs team, randoms Queue is now working in EU the fix worked you can start to apply this onto the other regions as well now! thanks for all the work you put in guys!

[cosmic remnant]

A blogpost or writeup on how the new OpenSkill MMR system works would be greatly appreciated. OpenSkill supports multiple models and it's not necessarily obvious what from Hunt is being counted as a win or a tie in those models.

[rocky mountain]

No reshuffles available .... server kicks no xp or kills kept trying to reconnect system stops trying to reconnect and just sends me to lobby as if I never killed any player or played a match wtf just pointless to play at this point ....

[leaden flax]

does anyone has the same problem ?

[queen jungle]

#troubleshooting is probably a better place to ask for help in that case

[leaden flax]

thanks i send the video there

[runic apex]

When is anyone gonna address the que issue? Havent been able to find a teammade for 2 days. Also playing solo in duos and constantly getting matched with trios

[thin remnant]

#feedback-discussion message

[dry plover]

I'm back in this game after 1week and i lost all my bloodpoints... Thx crytek

[karmic ivy]

Iv never heard of anyone loosing their bonds. I would contact their support team. They can verify your loss and take care of you if you indeed "lost" something.

[flat sandal]

omg, really it doesn't happen often but when I get sniped mid fight by some third party solo it is the cheapest feeling thing in the world. All hail bullet drop for this bs to happen even less often 😄

slightly interesting actually to add it at the same time as centre crosshairs. sniper can overlay a crosshair with ranges more easily^^

#game-ideas message @visual anchor
I quite like that idea actually, not sure what the downside is to downvote it. I also usually like letters more that you dont have to interact with

[deft dune]

???

[summer void]

I still can't find random players to que in with? How is it fixed?

[rustic timber]

Have an update changed something with the mmr? Me, and a couple of my friends are now six stars. Regardless if we have played lately or not.. When we last played, we where five.

[floral nova]

A guy gets ressed with necro. I'm 3m from him. I have a Sparks. I shoot him in the back while he's getting up. He runs away. I'm too surprised to switch weapon and kill him. He was next to a door.

@little fulcrum #game-ideas message I've voted no because you would know if someone is still there if the second banish is normal

[little fulcrum]

..so? lol

[atomic isle]

Yes

[atomic isle]

From their tweet this morning:

Star brackets have also been refactored, resulting in a significant change: the 6-star population has increased from 0.2% to closer to 2% of the player base.

[candid vapor]

anyone getting the load errors

i got 0X30006

and then 0X30001

unable to conenct to back end servers

[unborn knoll]

We r seeing this too

[karmic fog]

We all have servesr backened problems, hope they fix it soon, hang on tight ❤️

[unborn knoll]

Was just in lobbies for a while. What Laga said. Twitch drops are ongoing so it'll def get fixed soon.

[eager glade]

Slowmode is actually working in the opposite direction because it makes me want to DM people just to talk shit. Like truly just overtly toxic shit for freaking out about the game I like. Im not GONNA. That Be Dumb.

But ggooodd...

[trail carbon]

Why are so many people complaining about bullet drop when it hasn't even been implemented yet

[tired girder]

@thin remnant here me out tkm rounds

Good or bad idea

[thin remnant]

Wdym tkm

[tired girder]

Bird shot and a slug in the middle

[thin remnant]

Depends what weapon would have it and if the slug would spread and what the downside would be compared to regular slugs

[tired girder]

No it’s not a shot gun round

It’s a pistol and rifle round 🤣

It’s fun to shoot in real life

[thin remnant]

Slugs can go in rifles?????

Damn I'm silly xd

[tired girder]

It’s small

And not as deadly as slugs but hilarious

[thin remnant]

Ohk?

[tired girder]

Yea or no shot gun rifle

[thin remnant]

Could be interesting, wouldn't mind its addition as long as it doesn't push guns like the drilling out the way, but personally I'd find it an unnecessary addition

personally

[thin remnant]

what are your thoughts on my idea #game-ideas message

[tired girder]

Yes no doubt

[thin remnant]

no doubt is surprising xd

[tired girder]

Devs add in the august update

[tired girder]

Calf well pax is my main pistol

[thin remnant]

Makes sense XD

[tired girder]

I’ll in do it I just do it outta habit

[thin remnant]

#game-ideas message @hot vigil
Maybe on the same graph there could be a damage dropoff indicator? Like above the distance markers there would be a little damage number showing the damage at that distance to the upper torso

[hot vigil]

Wouldn't hurt for sure :)

[flat sandal]

@hot vigil I think something like that would be nice for sure. I can't wrap my head around it rn, too early, but when you think about that we would usually would aim up a realistic trajectory would look quite different. It's useful do compare bullet types but once you know them the only thing that matters in the drop range. Still, I think there is value to the idea, not sure what the best way to represent it is.

I don't think we actually know if the drop for all ammo types is essentially the same do we?

as in, long is faster but has heavier 😭 compact is slower but drops less. Perhaps they just averaged that within a bullet group and made it so that the average, compact to long ammo drops the same. Then adjusted the x axes with bullet range to make everything as the same as possible and then nerfed and buffed where appropriate.

Don't really think so but ppl jumped to the conclusion that compact will be easier to aim with at range, as in, the drop at a certain range is less. It is slower so it could be the same or even more. I'm not sure if we know that. "It has the flattest curve" could be misleading

[thin remnant]

Any potential balance concerns or issues with Pax Carbine? #game-ideas message

[hot vigil]

Well as far we are told there are multiple factors that affects the initial bullet drop aka when it starts.
Those are Action Type + Barrel Length + Ammo type + Muzzle Velocity.
Then AFTER that the trajectory of the drop is based on Ammo type + Muzzle Velocity (again).

So if we look at the 3 pistols we have gotten shown, Conversion, Pax and Uppercut, we can see the following stats:

Conversion, Drop off start at 15 with compact 300m/s.
Pax, Drop off start at 10 with medium 330m/s.
Uppercut, Drop off start at 15 with long 410m/s.

With that data, of three identical action type/barrel length, we can see that ammo type matters more than muzzle velocity when determining the start drop off stat.
The Conversion has the same drop as the Uppercut despite being the lowest vs. highest muzzle velocity, but it still trumps the Pax bc the Pax's muzzle velocity ain't enough to compensate for its bullet class, being medium.
What we cannot see yet, is how much muzzle velocity is gonna affect the drop off curve. Maybe Conversion and Uppercut is gonna have similar curve due to Conversion being low m/s, but compact and Uppercut being high m/s, but long :)

Hope this gave a little insight for you.

[flat sandal]

yeah, ty. that we don't know the impact of muzzle velocity was my main point there. I lot hinges on that. Edit: we3ight that is

[hot vigil]

What I've seen action type is the BIG factor.

[thin remnant]

pistols are still my main worry

[hot vigil]

Winnie is 50m with 400m/s compact.
Springy is 85m with 490m/s medium.

[thin remnant]

and that hv and spitzer are gonna become mandatory in high mmr

[flat sandal]

that could mean they are basically the same in trajectory

[thin remnant]

winnie drop starts at 50m

springy starts at 85m

thats almost double

[flat sandal]

yes but we dont know the impact of weight TT

[thin remnant]

even if something drops 1 micropixel thats enough to mess up a headshot

[hot vigil]

Most likely not, again, trajectory is stated to be impacted by bullet type mostly.

[flat sandal]

Just saying, it would makes sense for them to make them the same buy messing with physics and they ballance from there

so if for those two the drop range was the same, you'd have to pull the winnie back

[hot vigil]

Well, the point is to make long ammo not the strictly best in class

Hence why it works like it is does

[flat sandal]

not neccessarily

that already happens becasue long ammo is used most in the cases mostly effected

aka long range^^

We'll see, just saying that we kinda assumed that compact will travel further basically

[hot vigil]

Well, it will have a flatter curve in its drop

Everything travels the same lenght

[flat sandal]

that contratictory though^^

[hot vigil]

Well, I mean we gonna have infinite headshot range

That was my point

But it means that compact is gonna be less affected by having low m/v compared to long ammo.
So a 400m/s Henry is gonna have worse drop than 400m/s Winnie.
But bc Henry is single shot it will have more meters before the rapid drop starts.

Something like this

[flat sandal]

yup, not argueing with any of that

[tribal wyvern]

@rustic timber That ones positive tho, a 6 star should not be able to dip in mmr by bringing in noobs. Thats not fair to the others.

These low mmr made an active choice to play with a 6star.

[flat sandal]

#game-ideas messageholy moly. So what do you all like so much about things that break the economy?

[thin remnant]

Certain gun prices should be rebalanced, like the drilling is far too expensive

[flat sandal]

there are probably arguements to be made for universal basic income irl but in this game? don't think so. I wonder what the daily average is that you get in gear and hunt dollars

[thin remnant]

uppermat is a bit too expensive too

[flat sandal]

I wouldn't know as I dont have a reason to give a dam

[thin remnant]

https://tenor.com/b1FYK.gif

[jagged wagon]

Dark tribute gives players a goal and more importantly to crytek a reason to play those extra few games that night. And while someone who is on a win streak might get $138 on dark tribute and go… eh whatever… someone on a losing streak who has now burned a fair amount of cash might continue to play if they get a bit of a cash injection. Dark tribute is not breaking the economy.

[main plover]

I would like to see the healthbar added to presets in a way, since we can respec it for free anyways would be nice to do it a little quicker

[thin remnant]

i think they plan on doing this

or are considering it at least

[main plover]

that'd be great!

[thin remnant]

yeah its very highly requested, i hope they do it

[main plover]

yeah me too!, I forget sometimes and it's a pain to lose a big health chunk on the first down

[tribal wyvern]

Did they change the mmr limits? Because im below 2800, but still a 6 star

[thin remnant]

they changed mrr

@tribal wyvern #general-announcements message

[tribal wyvern]

doesnt mention the mmr limits

it says they made it less volatile and adjusted ur own mmr

[jagged wagon]

I assume they did since they say the 6 star population has gone from 0.2% to 2%

[tribal wyvern]

Interesting that my mmr after 3 games has not changed

Wonder if they implemented another bug

[jagged wagon]

I think they have made it less volatile now that they have moved to the openmmr system

[upbeat slate]

I been doing this for 2 years and never had problems for reposting old ideas every second month or so. If someone from mods contacts me and tells me that it is not ok then I will stop. Thanks for feedback.

[thin remnant]

You're alg, mods are the ones in charge, just letting you know

[upbeat slate]

Not really. Video has some text but it shows a whole thing without another 5000 words so it is for people to get a full picture about it. Thanks for feedback.

[thin remnant]

@pine spindle what would the animation be to use them? How long?

[floral nova]

I didn't understand what was the point. My bad.

[thin remnant]

@upbeat slate what are the downsides compared to vetterli

Also, what's the point of adding it? What niche does it fill, what's the reason

What kind of players would use it and how would it affect the balance of the game etc

#game-ideas message @olive prairie wdym "can't leave"???
What happens if you leave before the 1 minute timer elapses?

You can't just stop people from closing the game either, they'll use alt f4, task manager, close the window manually or restart their computer

@onyx lark fairly sure they already did that lol

[wheat vapor]

This guy REALLY hates solos lmao

Solos should match up with equal MMR players for sure. But higher? Come on man

[thin remnant]

Yeah that post was funny af

Also dude you have a ping/notification if you don't check that I'll be sad

[frozen crater]

pretty sure this guy got the burned role at one point due to the amount of hate he was spreading for solos

but in the end he won...solo matchmaking is actually significantly harder on the solo now

[flat sandal]

that's actually crazy to me. you guys love dark tributes so much?

[wheat vapor]

Free stuff, dude

[wheat vapor]

It always should've been equal mmr imo, but that guy clearly was salty af

[flat sandal]

there is theoretically some sort of economy. it simply gets watered down if you give everyone some amount of money daily

sounds actually like an incredibly stupid idea to be frank 😄

[wheat vapor]

Yeah but Dark Tribute gives free BB too

Not only Hunt dollars

[flat sandal]

you could put them somewhere else. it's just there to make people play more then they otherwise would have

as the player you should never want this stuff to be there really

[analog sigil]

real

[flat sandal]

he's got a point though. mmr should be equal for solos

[wheat vapor]

It is now.

[flat sandal]

is it? that's great actually

[analog sigil]

so there is an even bigger incentive to create smurf accounts

with current system you can also cement an account in 3 star for a long ass time

[wheat vapor]

Every single 5* match I've played last day or so I was against other 5*, which is great

[flat sandal]

so they finally do all the things we always wanted^^

[wheat vapor]

Yeah

[wheat vapor]

Better than how it was before idc

[flat sandal]

how so?

[analog sigil]

idk in low 6 star games are way more chill than usual and high 6 stars have a separate purgatory where its only spitzer wallbang the game

[wheat vapor]

Yup

Stars mean nothing the majority of the time, now

[rustic timber]

Why is 1 vs 3 so hard for you guys, that you feel the 1 should be nerfed?

[rotund obsidian]

I want to play against people at my skill level, I don't care about team size.

[slender zinc]

Im not one to complain ever. But I don't know what it is you guys did with the MMR system, but:

1. loading into trio servers as a duo only gives you duo's.
2. solid 4 star here, but I suddenly get put into servers with a mix of 3 to 5 stars. I dont need to play against 5 stars insta HS people when I'm a mid 4 star.

if the idea is to make everything pre 15 august patch a lot worse so post patch everything feels fantastic I think its going to work

[karmic ivy]

I hear tinfoil helps.

[slender zinc]

I hear fixing stuff which is not broken is unnecessary

[karmic ivy]

There is always room for improvement. This is an improvement. You are simply better than you ever gave yourself credit for. You are now playing in your class and you are not used to it.

BTW, you got throught the MMR changes three years ago, no?

You will survive this too.

[slender zinc]

how am I better then I ever gave myself credit for when I get insta HS with every encounter on every map? How are three stars better then they gave themselves credit for if they all of sudden need to play against 5 stars (they're the ones getting really shafted btw)? Are you high?

[karmic ivy]

When you play in your class. You will die nearly half the time right?

[slender zinc]

My game has a lot more longevity and is a lot more fun generaly yes

[karmic ivy]

The way I see it, if a three star player finds themselves a 5 star now. It means they were always a 5 star, they just managed to drop in rank so often that they were playing in the wrong class.

Its not like you can get to 5 star my mistake. The mistake was that those 5 star players ended up in three star games.

[slender zinc]

can I ask what you're MMR is?

[tranquil delta]

Post-Patch I'm 6 stars, I've seen other 6 Star Players with a KDA of 1,2 or something. Also we never get full matches. There's usually 4-6 people in a match and we wait almost 10 minutes for a match...

[karmic ivy]

at the moment 3 star. Prior to the update, I was 4 and would breach into 5 on occasions that I played more seriously (trying not to die).

1.4 k/d

In the past, who I played with influenced my MMR to a noticible degree.

If I was to play with players of my level in my team, I would probably be a 5 star. But as I play with those who are near 3, I end up near 3 as we die more often than I normally would.

I am interested to see what I am after a week with the new system.

[slender zinc]

then we're about the same type player, only I dont see it the same way you do. There have been moments I got to 5 stars, that's when fun went to die. I don't aspire to be a 5 star, I like relaxing gameplay more then "sweat lobbies". I dont feel like a 5 star player either but we'll see how it plays out. Im not having fun atm, thats for sure

[karmic ivy]

mmm interesting.

I never minded 5 star myself. Its just the next level of the challenge and Im here for the challenge.

I hope it gets better for you.

[slender zinc]

time will tell. Always nice to get to talk to people with a different perspective

[karmic ivy]

yeah

Good luck mate

[slender zinc]

you too

[queen jungle]

Seeing nothing but 6* players and their Mosin Spitzer + Dolch FMJ in my solo lobbies FeelsBadMan

[gray scroll]

Unfortunately, I ended up not being able to REDEEM the Twitch items from the first day. I watched the lives regularly, I received the rewards on Twitch, but when I went to redeem them, it was already over and I couldn't redeem them... Does anyone know how to help me if I can still somehow get the rewards from the first day?

[analog sigil]

Its not the worst

[wraith wedge]

So you didn’t claim them? If thats the case I don’t think you can do anything about that

[gray scroll]

I didn't care about redeeming it... I thought it would be possible to redeem it before the end of the campaign, but the campaign changes day by day!

[wraith wedge]

Unfortunately not

[rotund obsidian]

I think if you go to the page on twitch for all campaigns and scroll down, you can see previous campaigns? I dunno if it'll let you claim it there but it might. https://www.twitch.tv/drops/campaigns

[gray scroll]

Yes, it appears there... but unfortunately it's not possible to retrieve yesterday's...

[craggy hazel]

The removal of extra points for legendary hunters feel kinda sucky

[neat finch]

getting into a match now takes wayyyy to long. finding the randoms and even joining a match is insanely longer (US West)

[rotund obsidian]

that was a bug, it's already been fixed (or so i've heard)

[craggy hazel]

No no its in their patchnotes

they did it on purpose

[rotund obsidian]

? i'm not sure what change you're referring to then

[craggy hazel]

Back then,when you bought a legendary hunter,if all 3 skills didnt equal to 11 points youd get a point refund

now you dont

[crystal plume]

@hidden smelt Noone is lying when they say that the keys are out of stock. They do not have an infinite amount of them, they are generated by Steam and they get a limited amount in batches

[jagged epoch]

wow these games are so boring, no players in lobby

[flat sandal]

looks like that isn't true

duos and solos get a bonus in mm

[dusky tapir]

The hotfix patch notes state that not getting the extra points is a bug

I just checked in-game
A freshly recruited Redshirt with 6 points worth of traits is giving me 5 extra points ( as expected )

[queen jungle]

Anyone else getting dead lobby after dead lobby? This almost never happened before the MMR change the other day

I queue solo vs trio so realistically I should never encounter dead lobbies

[thin remnant]

Cancel queue before the red bar reached the end

If the bar reaches the end it puts you in regardless of player count

[queen jungle]

I know this, the issue is it's every match.

[cold thorn]

I have been matched with the same 2 people about 4 times in a row and they either can't ready up, or they refuse to ready up. How am I supposed to play the game if I literally can't get into a game!!! And I'm the one who has to wait between rounds because they also won't leave. How is that fair?

[clever pebble]

Can anyone explain this

[neat finch]

i've been searching for team mates for over 5 minutes now...

this new mmr system change is just garbage

[cold thorn]

What platform are you on?

[neat finch]

PC

US west 4*

[cold thorn]

Ah no worries, I'm ps

[rotund obsidian]

zombies just put on a fresh coat of paint

[karmic ivy]

The devs suggest otherwise. Waiting till the end of the red bar is just as good as not.

You might even miss a match that had players if you do

[icy tapir]

I don't know if they changed that, but before if I got to the end of the bar I was just as likely to get a near-empty server as not.

[floral nova]

probably check the integrity of the game files via steam

or did the other players see that too?

[tiny pivot]

what it looks like is a simple texture error, im sure theres some dev speak but it doesnt look like anything is wrong with it. what it looks like to me is that the texture for it tried to apply (the crummy grey with i think a farm logo or something) but didnt work so you just got this white bumpmap instead, which is what makes the texture look bumpy
idk, someone else might know, at the end of the day if you cant see/shoot/walk through it, its fine and will probably fix after a new match/restart 😂

[visual anchor]

@harsh moss were getting a legendary hunter skin for prestige 100 with the next gen update

[harsh moss]

Yeah but no unique skin for players that have done all the hard work to complete all (Books, challenges and prestige) before it gets removed

[visual anchor]

True

[analog sigil]

The color map is missing and is replaced by just white

[lunar sierra]

Yep I've always found the same in over 6 years of playing

[empty oasis]

@plain yarrow You post "Title: Bullet Drop " has been removed as it was feedback. If you'd like to leave game feedback please repost it in the #feedback channel.

[thin remnant]

Source

@queen zinc this isn't just high ping. Removing trading would make the game feel bad for everyone and invalidate shots that feel like they should've hit, even if you have 30 ping

(Just lower the trade window)

[karmic ivy]

They talked about it in one of their live streams. They said the system is designed to run to the end of the search. Said very specifically it won't help you avoid low player matches to leave the que early. And might even cause you to miss a game that had players in it...

[thin remnant]

hasnt been that way for me but maybe ill try that ig

maybe its just cause im an oce player and we get low player counts

[karmic ivy]

Oh certainly

Being OCE you have less of a pool of players

In my experience letting the bar run to the end has no corilation with low player matches.

[karmic ivy]

I think this makes sense and explains our different perception of the thing. In my case, there is nothing I can do to influence how many players are in my matches. But I am more likely than not to find a match with players.

Whereas in your case, likewise, there is nothing you can do to influence the number of players in your matches. But you are more likely than not to get matches with very low player counts.

And we both just get what we get.

[feral oriole]

Idk why anyone ever suggests roaming bosses, rotjaw (the boss spawned from this idea) is terrible and objectively made single bounties (the game mode that is at least 25% more fun than dual bounties) no longer exist in the most literal sense. Add new enemies sure but why does everyone support such a bad idea for no reason other than that it’s “interesting!!!!1!1!1”

[empty oasis]

Single bounties without Rotjaw are still a thing

[thin remnant]

#feedback-discussion message

bro probably just played the rotjaw only event for her anniversary and assumed the whole game was like that lmao

[feral oriole]

The suggestions/ideas posts is filled with your ideas that get ratioed to the floor I don’t want to hear it tbh

[thin remnant]

S tier argument

i really cant dispute that

also where are my suggestions that get ratiod to the floor?

ive had like 3 disliked suggestions

scroll up into suggestions-ideas you'll see the majority of my posts are liked

[feral oriole]

I didn’t scroll back to the beginning of time but I automatically stop looking at post when I see the same people spam it with nonsensical stuff

[frigid folio]

@hard sphinx Just a heads up you both have to have the same primary region set now to be able to invite someone to your lobby 😄 Hopefully thats the issue for you guys!

[thin remnant]

your arguments are hollow and pointless. give me some substance.

provide reasoning and examples.

[feral oriole]

This is the only message you’ve sent that “argues” with my original message and it’s an argument against my character lol. Wow so much substance

[thin remnant]

keep proving my point

[feral oriole]

🧐

[thin remnant]

im out
you still havent even adressed the fact that you were wrong about single bounties not existing, you're just insulting my suggestions and when proven wrong go "oh whatever i just ignore it because it's dumb dumb so i wouldn't know"
then when I ask for a proper argument I'm insulting your character lmao

and now you think I'm insulting you, if you take me asking for a real argument related to the topic as an insult maybe you're just sensitive.
Nothing you've said is a "clap back" and saying they are won't make them.

[feral oriole]

“Give me an argument while I continually insult you and get offended when you clap back” whatever lulz

[thin remnant]

#feedback-discussion message

^^^
single bounties still exist and i've said everything i want to say now cya

[feral oriole]

Focusing in on one inconsequential part of my original message lol. I admit it I’ve only fought rotjaw like 5 times so sue me. Ultimately that’s because, like I said, it’s a terrible addition and forgot they removed the function of it existing in every single bounty match. However that wasn’t even the focus of my message, that being roaming bosses is a strange idea that I’ve never heard a good reason for, but just an illustration of my point. Add onto this your weird obsession with my light hearted and comedic remark on your suggestions because of your light hearted and comedic remark on my message, and you see it’s honestly strange that you focused in on that and thought I had any intention on arguing with you about suggestions (most are nonsensical, would never be implemented, or obvious which include all of the suggestions of yours that I’ve seen so therefore I don’t care about arguing about your suggestions beyond that one joke I made). See ya lulz.

[thin remnant]

Thank you. This is what I wanted.
I'm not good at telling the difference between sincerity and joking.
By the way, why don't I see you disliking my suggestions? Are you just being nice?
If you think they're bad, feel free to dislike them and maybe even tell me in this channel why.

[unborn smelt]

@queen zinc Trading isn't that unlikely even in close quarters. Because the bullets in Hunt are pretty slow overall and Hunt is projectile based not hitscan based.

A quick example with shotguns:

Shotguns usually have a MV of around 400 m/s, so it takes the projectiles 1000ms to travel 400m, which means it takes them 25ms to travel only 10m.

For a trade to happen naturally, the player that shoots second, just has to create the projectile serverside, before they're dead serverside. The do not need to shoot at the exact same time.

So Player A creates a shoot on their client, then the info of that shot takes half their ping to reach the server. Once it reaches the server the first projectile is created which takes about 25ms of travelime to hit the second player. If player B now takes a shot and that manages to reach the server in those 25ms it took the first projectile to travel and hit player B, the second projectile should be and remain valid after player B's death serverside and it again would fly about 25ms to reach and kill Player A for a trade. The info from the server that a trade happened then again takes half player A's ping to reach their client.

So the 'natural' timing for entirely fair trades at only 10m distance with two weapons at around 400m/s velocity (like two shotguns) amounts to 2x [half your own ping] + 2x [25ms] = or 50ms + your own ping.

That doesn't account for potential system delay or time it takes the validations to run, natural network jitter or even packetloss.

And another thing to keep in mind is that both players ususlly react to seeing each other at the same time, the player shooting second usually doesn't react to you having shot at them.
With that in mind, having two people react to the same event with a diffrence in reaction times that amounts to in this example Player A's ping + 50 ms, is not that far fetched.

With typical human reaction times for "active reactions" (ie: react to seeing smth by pressing a button, not reacting to say touching a hot surface) being about 350 ms, having to react with less than 70-100ms diffrence (50ms + your ping) is really not far fetched at all.

[thin remnant]

thank you.
You've said everything i was considering saying xd

[unborn smelt]

I don't mean to invalidate your feedback, crytek still need to consider doing smth if it feels bad, i just want to add some context to often forgotten or missunderstood parts of how and why trades happen, and what times one can expect for "natural" trades that are a result of a projectile based system

[thin remnant]

they should just lower the trade window imo.

simple fix

[unborn smelt]

For me personally its a hard sell, because as long as the trade is fair, i don't think cheating one player out of a kill is a good thing

Thats what used to happen and why we have so many trades to beginn with

[thin remnant]

crytek works in extremes too much. the old system had too short of a trade window, the new one has too long

[unborn smelt]

But i also understand the frustration associated with trading, especially when they feel unnatuarally long

[unborn smelt]

I think the core issue is that "too long" is very subjective, if we consider the natural trade window i described above as "too long".

[thin remnant]

somewhere in between what it used to be and what it is now could be nice

so that people with 150+ ping or so might have shots invalidated

but no one else

[unborn smelt]

They should already have shots invalidated

[thin remnant]

isnt the current trade window 800ms??

[unborn smelt]

Nah

The 800ms is the max amount of time any info is allowed to be validated at all

[thin remnant]

sounds too long

[unborn smelt]

It should not mean any info thats less than 800 is automatically validated

So if a player dies their info should get invalidated due to being dead even if it reached the server within 800ms, but if a player shoots another, without even being shot back at, and it takes more than 800ms for the shot to reach the server, it will get invalidated anyway even if it was an otherwise perfect shot

Basically a cap on the situations where you pass a corner and die "behind cover" due to the delay of the shooter

[rotund obsidian]

the dead player's info should get invalidated, but it isn't, and they're still able to make new inputs right up until the death reaches their own client. I think that's the bulk of the issue tbh. It went from deleting shots that should've rightfully been midair already to not deleting shots fired past serverside death. from what ive gathered, the only limiting factor on new shots being fired and accepted by the server is the player being alive on their own client state when they click?

[unborn smelt]

I'm sure you understand it's hard to just believe the claim it isn't working without any proof.
Last info i have, which is admittedly a bit old, is that it's working correctly and they're monitoring it, but i won't make a claim here, neither that it's working nor that it isn't, without a way to proove it. I can just forward the info i have and explain the framework with my limited knowlege.

[rotund obsidian]

fair enough, this discussion can't really end up going anywhere besides in circles like it has so many times before. I'll just drop this here anyway though: #feedback-discussion message

[flat sandal]

at the end of the day, there is not way to make it feel right in every situation. communication simply takes time

[sand kiln]

@uncut pendant Poison arrow already inflicts poison when using them as a melee

About Frag arrows and concertina doesn't makes sense just because of how these works

Frags arrows need to start a "fuse" to explode, either way doing melee with them might just damage the user or do blunt damage

Same with Concertina arrows, this will expand in contact with a surface, meaning when doing a melee these will explode and hurt both the user and enemy player

And mostly get you killed in the process.

[thin remnant]

That's the point.

It'd be a fun kamikaze meme strategy.

And for frags exploding, I could imagine an excuse of the prolonged force of driving it into them could trigger the explosion.

Just like how shooting a dynamite stick causes it to explode.

[sand kiln]

Just use a big bundle lol, or get a friend to stick a sticky on you

And run inside the lair

[thin remnant]

That's fun, but doesn't mean frag arrows and conc arrows shouldn't have the melee

[sand kiln]

Imo, arrows beside poison working with hundred hands are a silly idea and not really working

[thin remnant]

Yeah it's silly xd

But it'd be fun

[sand kiln]

Being fun and working are two different things tho

[thin remnant]

And I've provided my theoretical reasoning for it working. Explosives can be very volatile and shoving it into a solid object could make it go boom I imagine

[thin remnant]

Working physically or for the game

[sand kiln]

From a dev aspect at some point adding stuff because you like it and sounds fun is not really wise

[thin remnant]

Cause I don't see any balancing issues with it

[sand kiln]

Take Mojang as example of this

They first added stuff they liked because they just felt so

And was funny in their minds

(Like notch apple's)

[valid gorge]

concertina and frag arrows are already meme builds as is

no need to make it any worse

[thin remnant]

But why should custom arrows working for melee count as a "just because you think it's fun" addition but nothing else is?
Fun is the point of games

[sand kiln]

But after they grew and got bought by Microsoft they realized they are not small anymore and have to think more about what stuff they add into the game

If you run a game only based on fun, is not really good design

There are several aspect yo take into account

They point is frags nor concertina would work as good melees just as poison arrows does

[thin remnant]

Btw I don't want them to go out of their way completely and not work on other things to add this, I just don't see a problem with the idea and think it could be fun

[sand kiln]

Then if is for fun, losing time coding and configurating these to work properly just to get rejected by the community just because is a meme

People would run this for 1-2 matches and says it's useless besides being a meme

[thin remnant]

The only real use I could see is frag arrows, being able to make them into an impact grenade at short range, but I don't think this addition is necessary. Just don't think it'd be bad

[valid gorge]

you could do this with consumables already why do you need it on arrows

[sand kiln]

Arrows can already be used to stab, and is not really bad

They just want the worst and less common sense arrows to do so

[thin remnant]

Wdym "run it"??? People already run frag and conc arrows, you don't need to run a specific thing in order to melee with arrows

[sand kiln]

Run it to melee people

[valid gorge]

idk this guy is describing a playstyle that's already achievable in game

[sand kiln]

Then explode or expand the concertina

That's my point

It's just silly and useless

[thin remnant]

They wouldn't, but if it was added it'd be an option in situational situations

Also I am not a strong advocate for this idea, I repeat

[sand kiln]

I'm a memer myself, and even know that's a bad idea

[thin remnant]

But I see no inherent problem with it

[valid gorge]

"im not a strong advocate for this"

advocates strongly for it

[sand kiln]

Already explained it

In my first comment

What's the issue with it

And why doing game design based on "fun" is not really a good thing in all cases

We already have useless stuff in the game like spy glass and Electric lamp

[valid gorge]

the inherent problem here is that it requires time and resources to implement

[sand kiln]

And prob flash bombs already in that area after being nerfed to dirt

[thin remnant]

I am defending the idea and providing another point of view.
If you want to misinterpret that, then I am advocating strongly for it

[thin remnant]

Yeah, that's why I'm not a strong advocate.

I would rather they spend resources on other things

[valid gorge]

yes lets resort to arguing semantics

[thin remnant]

Semantics are cool

[valid gorge]

so what does advocate mean to you? how does that word make you feel?

scribbles in notebook

[thin remnant]

Small

Don't forget the word strong

[uncut pendant]

if mechanics like this are possible and the game isnt ruined and people arent angry, but instead only the people who use it are affected, why not?

[sand kiln]

We already had that convo

Read above

[uncut pendant]

I did, I thought Id add to the conversation

I think its interesting what you mentioned and think it would be a funny event, that I could never get mad about, (seeing an enemy run into the lair and kill me and/or my teammates with a sticky stuck to him)

also what about using bloodless/ bulwark

to reduce damage to user that is stabbing with frag arrows and that

[sand kiln]

Bulwark doesn't affect frag arrows/bombs

It is rending damage

Bloodless might help tho

[uncut pendant]

only bloodless then

yeah

[sand kiln]

Still not a good move

[uncut pendant]

could even have it so that stabbing causes the arrow to drop and ignite the fuse

[sand kiln]

Considering it shouldn't kill your enemy with 1 hit

And considering it may be a team fight also

Which losing you may cause your team to lose or you dying before landing a melee on a enemy

At that point you are better just shooting the arrows

[uncut pendant]

yeah same story as a bomb lance

[sand kiln]

You want a reliable way to kill the enemies not goof and hurt yourself while doing that

Is not really a wise design

[uncut pendant]

if youre upstars, shooting out a window, with team downstairs, enemy pushes you, 1v1 you stab with frag arrow

[sand kiln]

More than a funny idea that most people won't like neither use

[uncut pendant]

you die anyway, but you matrydom the enemy

you team comes upstars and picks you back up

[sand kiln]

[wicked jackal]

🔥

[uncut pendant]

its literally a melee, most of the time that is a last resort

[sand kiln]

The difference is, you want a reliable melee

That can kill, and makes sense to be used

Like, the poison arrow

Not like the concertina or frag arrows, which cannot 1 tap anyway

[uncut pendant]

if you bring hundred hands, understand that if you stab with the wrong arrow it can be your last also

concertina can deffo put on low health

and 2 stabs could be interesting

[sand kiln]

2 stabs In a melee sounds bad

[uncut pendant]

two concertina explosions in the palm of your hand

[sand kiln]

Aight

I go eat, finally free from work

[uncut pendant]

okay

[valid gorge]

The fixation on arrow melee is boggling. you can tap primary fire at point blank with the bow for the same effect, and if it was any different than that by using melee then id wager it becomes a balancing issue

[dusky tapir]

I'm surprised we don't have blunt point arrows

[valid gorge]

lol add a baseball bat arrow type

[cosmic remnant]

Have they given any clarification on the new matchmaking?

[uncut pendant]

I will be honest, the main melee I wanted with the original suggestion was for poison, being able to deal lethal dmg to armoured and other types of ai and maybe hunters/boss targets without having to pick back up the arrow was the goal

[valid gorge]

yeah poison makes sense to me

[uncut pendant]

but El Spooky has enlightened me with the fact that it is now possible with poison

the other options arent meant to be strong or weak, just an if you want to do something you can sort of thing

[flat sandal]

shooting through metal mesh fences seems super inconsistent even with fmj

[sand kiln]

@subtle dust Your post has been removed due to "Low effort/trolling" please follow the guidelines pinned in #game-ideas when using the channel.

[unborn sandal]

Same for me. At least all the 6 stars are shitters just like me

6 star used to mean something

Now it’s just 5+

Idk where the actual 6 stars went

[crystal plume]

Tbh I don't think that 6 star event meant "something" It's very playstyle dependent so you could always cheese it

[unborn sandal]

Before this change 6 stars were all actually good

Now about 20 percent are actually good, 60 percent play like normal 5 stars that might be 6 star once or twice and 20 percent play like 3 and 4 stars that should never have seen the light of 6 from what I’ve seen

In an effort to fix the mmr they’ve made your mmr meaningless

Classic crytek for the past year and a half

[queen zinc]

The only alternative to the current change, would be to push a LOT of players into the 2 star bracket

And push everyone down, on the bottom end, rather than pulling the upper end up into 6 star

[thin remnant]

you can already melee with regular arrows bro.

the debate above is about frag and conc arrows.

[WHICH I AM NOT A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR]
[I simply provide a different point of view]

[empty oasis]

@bold flax Your post "Title: please fix empty lobbies" has been removed as it was feedback. If you'd like to leave game feedback, please do so in the #feedback channel

[edgy niche]

literally died 4 matches in a row and havent dropped mmr. what a fucking joke of a game

MMR fucking goes up fast but you suffer so much before it goes down.

[thin remnant]

@storm cairn interesting idea, but they'd have to change the animations for it to fit into the pistol category

at the moment all pistols are held with one hand iirc?

[storm cairn]

Would be cool if they did but not that important imo. Small melee weapons are two handed aswell. Meanwhile the handcrossbow is one handed but can't be dual wielded. It's not that consistent.

[thin remnant]

funnily enough, two-handed melee weapons did used to be medium slots

but they changed that for balance.

So melees are a bit of an exception imo due to balance

same with dual crossies imo, thatd be unbalanced af

[storm cairn]

depends on the spread of dual wield crossbows. Dual wield sparks also sounds op on paper but is pretty bad. But yeah, melee and crossbow aern't fierarms so 'Springfield Pistol' being one haded would make sense

[thin remnant]

dual hand crossbows would be like silenced rival hc slugs

with multiple ammo types

wait do dual sparks get multiple ammo types?

[storm cairn]

good question. I don't think so

[tribal wyvern]

yeee hm, semi good. 8/10 of 6 stars camped with snipers.
Rest used nitro/dolches.

The skill was more in the expensiveness of the guns & the camping nearby compounds until you finnished your fight.
Very rare to see a 6 star with a winfield, conversion or romero.

I don't see much skill in standing 200m away with a mosin spitzer.

[thin remnant]

i thought it was mosin dolch??

[tribal wyvern]

Dolch is the common pistol.
Rifle can vary. I did mention mosin to.

If they're close , it's more common to see C&K slugs, Nitros , Avtomats even. Avto has disappeared alot but they show up from time to time.

But if they're outside compound its 9/10 mosin snipers with spitzer. Some do use mosin rifle aswell.

[storm cairn]

Just checked. You can select two ammo types on Dual Sparks Pistol

[tribal wyvern]

All one bullet weapons have multiple ammo variants.
Only exception is Berthier that also has it.

[tribal wyvern]

You might not be active anymore in the discussion, but I do wanna iterate that this is 100% true.
6 star can be achieved by most players. The issue is that it's not a fun playstyle to reach this, so you just stay much lower. Sure some do get there by just being insanely good & can get it with winfields.

But primarily for me i wanna have fun & just play whatever i feel like. And that does not get you to 6 star.

I've been there multiple times & with the new mmr change, my god did it take long to downrank, but i'm back at 5 star again. Just had to solo necro die a couple of games.

And until August, i recommend that anyone who feels like they're to high up in mmr.
Buy Legendary hunter (use free hunter if you can), run with a melee, easiest is duster or knuckle knife.

Take clues to get some cashback & just run into trios over and over.
And make sure you got small bars.

It's an intended way to play by Crytek & it will get you down to your desired rank 😉
Streamers been doing it since it came out.

If you die to a solo, just exit, you're not losing enough mmr per death.

Them 360no scoping a player with spear is not a 6 star, it's a 3 star that got 100h in the game.

[thin remnant]

crown and king is so annoying ;-;

especially with slugs

[thin remnant]

@unborn sandal i agree with you about the damage buff, but the ammo buff was fine

[dusky tapir]

@hybrid forum are you 100% it's tied to weapons being skinned?
#game-ideas message

[hybrid forum]

Yep

Ever since skins were released this was my main gripe with them

For example compare the base sparks skin to the prestige 5

Or the officer skins

[dusky tapir]

Interesting. The growl is really apparent when you are downed

[warm cliff]

I think you can only hear it when down. As far as I know

[dusky tapir]

Crytek could do a whole lot of trolling right now and associate the growl with High Velocity instead

[hybrid forum]

Nope. This was recorded on the shooting range (I didn't record this though, got it from reddit)

Also I swear rachtaz once made a YouTube short with a sparks skin

[dusky tapir]

yeah I just checked as well

[hybrid forum]

Showing exactly that

[dusky tapir]

vandal vs duke's contract

[hybrid forum]

Tbh I don't notice that growl on long ammo

Like krag skins

But It's very noticeable on compact ammo, like marathon

[wet saffron]

It's intentional on weapons with a skin. What are we argueing about?

[hybrid forum]

That it's kinda meh, because guns sounds should stay as they are. Also enemies can't hear the growl anyways

[warm cliff]

I barely notice it to be honest when using skins

[wet saffron]

It's just an added layer of audio that makes a skin special when you shoot it. It doesn't affect you or anyone negatively

[hybrid forum]

I don't notice it at all on some guns, but on others it's a pain in the ear

[warm cliff]

I'm usually playing with a friend so I guess I just tune it out

[wet saffron]

It doesn't change anything with or without so

[thin remnant]

LOL VALORANT REFERENCE?//?/!!!1!/!/!??!!

[thin remnant]

@hardy moat https://discord.com/channels/350201607788429323/520548481782382602

[queen jungle]

@craggy pike @visual anchor made a suggestion for charms to be improved here, hoping crytek actually adds it. #game-ideas message

[empty oasis]

@wicked abyss Your post "Title: Infinite Blood Bonds Did Not Get Roll Back" has been removed as it is feedback. If you'd like to leave game feedback, please do so in the #feedback channel.

[tribal wyvern]

Crytek, your QA absolutely sucks. What is this ? I don't have enough fingers and toes counting the past months how many times you add something & need to immediatly roll back or make emergency fixes.

Stop releasing things you've not properly tested, when clearly there is so much spaghetti coding. My goodness.

It's starting to look extremely amateurly.
Where i work we'd have lost every customers we have by now if we released changes, that broke this often in half the times you've made misstakes.

That implementations & fixes can come with bugs, sure i get that.
But these are clearly not minor bugs happening. If you gotta immediatly roll it back

But i suppose it's a Triple A standard now, who cares if the game breaks if your customers already bought the product.

[proper magnet]

This MMR change was absolute awesome 🙂 u get fked cuz ur good, empty duo lobbys everywhere in 6*

[soft river]

@hybrid forum while I'm not against this because its a consistency change

how is it offputting

genuine question

[hybrid forum]

idk I just don't like it for some reason

[soft river]

you're the one shooting the gun

[hybrid forum]

also it's harder for new players with a skin to learn the sound of the gun

[analog ridge]

Game is so bugged right now: When I get end of match screen that my hunter is lvl 34, he is actually 32 and we just did a 13 kills match but in match summary it says only 2 kills, meaning less exp, so its even harder to prestige now. We took out 4 bounty token and killed 13 hunter + some AI and I only got 1 rank and 4000 exp in total. Thats just awful. I hope this is a bug and not that Crytek made it harder too prestige secretly

[open pewter]

Anyone else having problems with Twitch drops? I already owned Huffe's set but didn't get an alternative drop.

[analog ridge]

Yes I only get Hunt Dollars even though I own Huffe's Kit but not the ones for BBs

[jagged wagon]

Devs are aware the alternate drops/$5000 are broken, they tried to deploy a fix today but had to roll it back. We are waiting to see their next move..

[thin remnant]

Kills where AI or other hunters finish them off do not count.
Kills against hunters with only one health bar remaining that redskull the hunter do not count

Just so you know, stuff can be buggy sometimes I admit

[analog ridge]

thats not true. For hunter kills and AI kills teammates do you receive exp after the match as well. and even if not, after every match it says im that level for example 34 but in reality the hunter is lvl 32. so I lose some exp every match for no reason

[rotund obsidian]

probably just displaying the wrong match in the summary, sometimes it fails to update after a game and shows the one from before.

[analog ridge]

no. its the right match, I can compare the other stats. and I dont talk about one match, I talk about all matches.

[rotund obsidian]

if it said two kills and you got 13, that means it was either showing the wrong match or the enemies were redskull revived which means they don't count as kills.

[analog ridge]

I talked about the exp difference in my last comment. the difference in the 13 kill match that may be what u said. but not the not matching hunter levels after every match

[flat sandal]

#game-ideas message @untold torrent
I don't think that would be too bad an idea. I'm also not sure about this universal truth thing that putting pressure on the enemy team is a good thing. I keep thinking, okay but why exactly?

[tawny kraken]

Add this to hunt in the future

[clever pebble]

Did they change money in this game cause I feel like you used to get more from matches?

[empty oasis]

I mean, you got no bounty and 2 clues. How much were you expecting?

[wicked abyss]

#feedback message day2

[rotund obsidian]

@random jetty #feedback message That damage value is the EXACT amount you'd deal when your nitro penetrates 1 metal and 1 wood surface. for some reason, the nitro's pen through metal with base ammo is incredibly weak and only deals around 70ish damage through a single metal surface.

[tribal wyvern]

Tree fiddy

[signal mural]

@soft brook I think removing K/D would either cause those k/d conscious players to just leave the game or force them to manually track their own stats. I don't think it would at all have the desired result at all - play styles differ usually for other reasons.

Personally after completing all the achievements, getting all rewards from trials, and whatever other incentives - I only have personal goals to keep a bit of extra play incentive.
I'm aware of my K/D but don't let it play a role in my gameplay choices; In game finances and situational disadvantages play a huge role if I choose to make a play to save an ally or disengage/extract.

Your issue sounds more like a Random Match Making annoyance - which shouldn't be the grounds for a change in stat tracking. You can't push players to adapt a mentality or a play style but you can irritate them by removing features they are accustomed to having.

[tribal wyvern]

Maybe not remove it, but make it hidden so only you can see yours.

[signal mural]

Isn't there already an option for that?

[tribal wyvern]

Yes & no. There is, but it hides everything.

My idea here would be to just make kda hidden & only the person themselves can see it & make it impossible to show to anyone else.

[signal mural]

I guess it could be semi-useful but honestly people will just find another criteria to not accept a random partner (Loadout choices, MMR rank, Legendary Hunter choice, non-meta choices)

[tribal wyvern]

That would not be my reasoning why, more just to not encourage kd farmers even more.

[signal mural]

Honestly being able to see opponents KDA is helpful when suspecting cheating too. It's easy to tell the difference between a KDA farming sniper and cheating kill farmer.

I don't think most players are looking to flex using their KDA.

[tribal wyvern]

If a KD farmer is not flexing his kd, then why is he kd farming?
And it's not up to use to find out if they cheat or not.

And the cheaters Huuge finds, he doesn't check for kd.

A big chunk of cheaters arn't prestige 0 lvl 1

[signal mural]

Huuge doesn't generally need to as he spectates them for extended periods of time but who knows maybe he does peek the KDA too. I wouldn't watch a live stream of him cheater hunting.

I would think people cheat because it feels good to win and the cheating aspect - for the cheating individual - doesn't substantially cheapen the win for whatever reason.

If I get killed and it felt off I will check the kill view - especially on snipers, wall bangs, etc. That's usually enough but if not, or it was a clear exchange that felt hella off, I'll look at their KDA - anything 5.0+ is suspicious in my book. Sure they're second accounts and restarts but they should climb into their usual ELO bracket rapidly.

[tribal wyvern]

Right, 5kda with how many kills?
50k / 10k ?
50/10 ?

But regardless i think kda is a bad decider. What if i have 1.01 & i cheat, am i less sus then by default ?

[signal mural]

As I said secondary accounts would make judging something like a 50/10 less indicative of foul play. But yeah if you have over 1k kills and a 5-to-1 that's pretty damn unlikely.

It's not a decider but statistical evidence worth considering.

[olive trail]

Crytek, not sure if you know but you have killed oce servers, game after game after game after game of not full queing and getting matched with only one team, most of the time a solo. Obviously this is a flaw and is ruining the experience. Please widen the mmr ranges for OCE servers as your game is broken in the current state......

[signal mural]

Even long-term solo streamers probably don't have a 5.0...

Regardless I don't think limiting players statistical data is a way to improve gameplay. Eliminating the Leaderboard was a great idea because it was just full of broken stats and promoted cheating to stay competitive.

[thin remnant]

As an oce player, I trust servers will fill up soon enough as the MMR adjusts and people find their right rank.

But if not, some changes could be nice

Perhaps give each region different MMR systems but might be too much

[olive trail]

The size of oce player base is the problem, it always has been and was the reason matchmaking was turned off on oce for a long time

[signal mural]

@fast forge Where did you hear it's an exploit? I have only read that people logged in after the maintenance yesterday to find 10k plus BBs added to their account. Naturally Crytek should fix this ASAP as it impacts the financial funding of the game as a live-service.

[olive trail]

I think you will find there was a way to make the issue occur

[signal mural]

I dunno even Googling it just seems to illuminate that it was primarily on consoles and would be added per log-in. Regardless I guess rectifying that would take priority over fixing Twitch drops. 😐

[covert imp]

just queued up after 2 months and the loading problem was still there, my friends loaded in and played the match while i was stuck in the loading screen for 25 minutes. I never entered the game while it ended

how is this now a big issue on cryteks radar? it literally stops players from playing the game

its not a system issue since i changed the computer since last time and my friends with worse rigs dont get this problem as much as me

Im always the one creating the lobbies so maybe its connected to that somehow but i wouldnt know

[wicked abyss]

#feedback message #feedback message
free bb coins exploit not get rolling back day2

[wicked abyss]

Just check my feedback up there. As far as I know, they frantically swept the entire store and still have leftover Bloodbounds.

[wicked abyss]

You guys don’t know how crazy this is, do you?

[signal mural]

Okay yeah that's insane.

[astral socket]

Please revert the fucking mmr change, 3 solos each game just aint fucking fun

[rotund obsidian]

@pure moss #game-ideas message There already is a separate keybind. You can separate 'interact' and 'stop bleed/burning'.

[vital axle]

#game-ideas message This a cool idea if it isnt one shot. Dmg + bleed

[fathom hinge]

i couldnt think matchmaking could get worse, but every time since they released MM for the first time it went worse with every change

[safe mountain]

wtf the poison nerf to inmolators?!

have no sense

and the nerf to melee to bosses is also sh1t

but hey... at least dolch have fmj

[dusky tapir]

that part is more annoying but thankfully they made riposte/bayonet/trauma way cheaper

[main plover]

What do you guys think about the heavy bullet drop they're looking to add? I think it should drop less than it looked like it would

[dusky tapir]

I refrain from commenting on the poison nerf against immolators ( mostly because I don't know how else to call it other than suboptimal )

[dusky tapir]

if you have too much drop it becomes super shit with ironsights I reckon. Wait and see

[main plover]

My friend is a iron sight sparks main, he's scared of just that

[dusky tapir]

@queen jungle #game-ideas message and they even disperse poison clouds

[queen jungle]

@dusky tapir yes forgot to mention that. They also can be used to silence dog/chicken cages as long as it hits the lantern before exploding.

@fickle fractal the Regen shot is fine the way it is. It was recently nerfed in the way it takes longer to take effect after taking damage. The old way of hunting like you described never existed, maybe in the lower brackets, but when anyone of my teammates ran out of heals during those days, we would just extract rather than fighting with 25-50HP 🤷‍♂️

@calm pulsar what a great suggestion! Leave it OP and up for grabs if they miss? Imagine the scenarios where you yank the spear from your dead teammates body and yeet it back at em 🤣

[calm pulsar]

@queen jungle Many thanks for the flowers 🙂

[blissful jackal]

@fickle fractal you can heal faster with med kits and vitality shots, regen shot is not the problem in your scenario

@thin remnant the reason they probably wont make guns un corntraband is people going in, killing someone with like a nitro or dolch and then leaving because they want to sell the gun instead of staying in the match

[empty oasis]

@queen zinc You post "Title: The addition of bullet drop requires nerfs to the more absurd movement" has been removed as it was feedback. If you'd like to leave game feedback, please do so in the #feedback channel

[untold torrent]

Hi, what exactly do you mean?=

[robust mist]

Are they going to fix the new DLC soon? Cause I own it but still can't use the skins

[blissful jackal]

its a good thing to reduce people sitting back doing nothing for 15 minutes

at least the "universal truth" is what im referecing