feedback-discussion

[vital fractal]

Or even better

Nagant 1895 is better shotgun with a 67m ohk range

[weary fox]

I'm not comparing headshots fym

[vital fractal]

And you can do that 0-67m

[weary fox]

I'm comparing upper torso shots bro

[vital fractal]

A slug doesn’t one tap to upper torso at 25m

Go in the range

[weary fox]

Damn my bad g, must be 1-2m off

[vital fractal]

I believe it’s actually 16-8m I forgor

Maybe actually 15m, I’d have to pull up a vid one sec

[weary fox]

Oh wait what was the point again? Oh right, my shotgun can 2 tap someone up to 47m on torso hits. DAMN! THAT OUTPERFORMS WINFIELD

[weary fox]

Cornf, my god up in heaven, I love this guy's content

[weary fox]

.

[vital fractal]

Except you know… you only have like 9 slugs, + 5 per box and unless you are committing to a meme loadout, you will run out with- and that’s assuming you hit ALL your shots and there’s nothing involved like cover either

OH

and you are using specifically the crown and king

[weary fox]

Dude it's just hitting the person twice on the body with slate

It's not rocket science

[vital fractal]

Not the specter, not the Romero, no the slate

[weary fox]

If I intend to use my slugs outside of 25m I would run ironeye to aid the ROF

[vital fractal]

The numbers on the table say one thing but in reality it doesn’t work out that way

Otherwise it’d be way more common

Just saying

[weary fox]

Dude there's plenty of people who are unhappy of how slugs can 2 tap up to 30-40m

[vital fractal]

You can argue “BUT IT DOES IT DOES IT DOES” yet it doesn’t work out that way, it’s just too costly of inputs and risk for a majority of players man

[vital fractal]

I mean you can keep saying that but until it becomes a commonplace occurrence in game, I doubt it’s actually a problem

[weary fox]

The risk is literally losing ammo, like every other gun

[vital fractal]

There’s a difference of losing 3 of 9 compared to 3 of 30

And you only get 2/5 back vs 8/20

Especially when the slugs themselves also don’t have extra ability like pen bleed fire or poison

[weary fox]

Sure everything is sunshine and rainbows, pre nerf Dolch was fine too because not a lot of people were complaining about it.

Damn uppercut should get it's price reduced

No one was complaining about uppercut before the nerf

[vital fractal]

I mean you’re literally choosing examples that were well known to be issues, and still are to an extent

[weary fox]

Centy bleed needs a buff because it's not used often

[vital fractal]

That are still talked about lmao, so thanks for supporting my argument?

[weary fox]

Slugs are well known issues that majority of the community agrees with

[vital fractal]

Are you supposed to be supporting my argument lol?

[vital fractal]

Mmm, used to- before their nerf

[weary fox]

Sure let's throw off the balance of Centy

[vital fractal]

Bro is speaking to speak at this point

[weary fox]

You really don't seem to get my point do you?

[vital fractal]

Man I gotta get back to my compact ammo Nagant, the best shotgun in game

[weary fox]

You can't go "I can't aim with slugs, therefore they aren't an issue"

[vital fractal]

I do, and it saddens me you accept that as truth

[weary fox]

If buckshot can't 2 tap you from 40m away, why should slugs?

[vital fractal]

So until next time you start this shit

Bai bai

[weary fox]

.

[vital fractal]

☝️🤫🤔

[weary fox]

Blud just walks away from an argument because he can't justify his end of the argument

[frozen crater]

IDK I dont think any party wins a debate in #feedback-discussion

no matter what the topic is haha

[vague island]

Imagine a Crytek gamedis sitting with in a "didn't ask + don't care" pose right now

[weary fox]

They do that to majority of our suggestions :(

Dats the sad truth

[vague island]

It is what it is. I hope they at least read the treads sometimes

[frozen crater]

I know that Violet at the very least reads through suggestions and feedback

wholely doubt anybody pays that much attention to this channel tho

theres so much slop to sort through

[hazy quartz]

to be fair a lot of suggestions are not very well thought trough in many ways.
and some take some time, some suggestions got implemented 2 years after the idea got some initial popularity in the community.

[vague island]

is reddit a more popular platform to give devs the ideas?

[hazy quartz]

afaik this is the right place and they read all suggestions, all feedback and afaik even quite a bit of the discussion

[vague island]

hopefully you are right

[thorny quail]

how many more years until the reconnect works?

[unborn dagger]

Probably 1000

[unborn sandal]

When pigs fly

[unborn dagger]

That too

[jagged wagon]

@midnight wolf just to add to your feedback, the last documented changes to the matchmaking system were a vague, “we have tweaked the match making, should feel better now, let us know” no detail as to what had been done, nothing. Since then there has been endless posts and examples of very unfair match ups and crytek as you say have said nothing, just put their heads in the sand.

[willow hedge]

tbh the radio silence is what pisses me off the most. gives the feeling of utter indifference. I don't need facts at this point. I don't think there will be anything coming before the update anyway. I'd be happy if there was a "Hey, we heard you. We're looking into A, B and D but can't C at the moment. You'll hear [some date] from us." Or even a "We're not doing anything until the update is out". Anything.

[jagged wagon]

Even when we do get a road map update so much of it is hollow empty words… they told us Servers were no. 1 priority for the year, well 2023 has been and gone and the servers still feel as bad as they did. They said they would look into stopping QP affecting BH mmr, well I guess they looked and figured they can’t do it but are not about to admit it. The reconnect feature has had zero improvement since its janky creation and it still barely works. No word on when that might get better.

[queen jungle]

@unkempt maple It was also night half of the time, be careful what you wish for

[unkempt maple]

im not afraid of the night. your terms are acceptable

[sharp veldt]

Just to give a lil reply, we are ALWAYS watching matchmaking, both the data and the feedback. Always always always. Nothing to share on possible changes right now though.

[vital fractal]

Always?

Noted

[willow hedge]

I appreciate your answer, Violet. Your jobs as CMs isn't easy. I've been there. I just want to make clear, that all I am saying comes from the deep wish for this game to be excellent. I've been there from pretty much the beginning and you (the whole team) have a jewel here.
Many of us just wished there was more dialogue between you (again, the team) and us as the community, fans and customers. It feels extremely disheartening to see months after months without meaningful communication or even something so simple as a post on the website's news page about what's going on and maybe that you actually heard us. (I know, there's plenty of whining going around as well). At the moment from my POV it just feels like the hand organ player is playing something and us monkeys have to dance to it - even if we don't know the tune - and getting slapped for it.
An FAQ or a little (public) status update from time to time would go a long way to restore some trust.

[sharp veldt]

I understand what you're saying. I am a Hunt player myself (over 2k hours) and play many other games too. I will continue to do my best to get whatever I can out for you all, the players.

[coral pulsar]

Yo, you can't buff the drilling but you can lower its price.

The drilling has to be one of the hardest weapons to balance given its 2 tap potential.

But if you go messing with the recoil, which is what keeps it in check, we're gonna have a bad time.

The drilling has such a unique niche place. It excels at mid range, loses in extended duels with a shotgun back up.

Its strength is versatility. It doesn't need to excel.

We're already swimming in mosin dolch because money doesn't matter.

[dusky tapir]

I might drop my question about special ammo in here as well - not sure where this kind of post would go

been holding on to it for a minute but w/e

...

I'm asking mainly because of Dolch FMJ giving - IMO - quite a lot of extra power to a gun that didn't need it.

The team usually have some really good explainations for additions and changes, which is why I'd be interested in a dive on the design goal of special ammo - and where the dev team is headed with further Special Ammo additions! 😄

At least personally, initially the perception I got was Special Ammo helping define a weapon's niche ( such as Nagant Officer vs New Army before they both had DumDum)

An example of controversial additions would be Crown and King Flechette, Centennial DumDum and Dolch FMJ ( each either due to powercreeping the gun in question, or causing other weapons to become irrelevant once again )

I realize this place might be a bit of an echo camber, so I wonder (assuming Crytek can share) if the data points collected contradict this feeling ( aka the silent majority prefers being able to freely pick and choose special ammo regardless of weapon family )

[sharp veldt]

I am aware of the controversial position of the C&K and Dolch ammos. So putting that aside:

I think originally back in 1.5 when Custom Ammo was introduced, the idea was to define some niches. I wasn't on the team at the time, so I can only theorize as well.

However, over time, I do not think that has held. As everyone who has a lot of hours knows, there's some ~feel~ to each gun in Hunt. Some indefinable quality that each weapon has that makes you or I like it more or less. As more and more weapons have been added, this ~feel~ is increasingly important because each weapon cannot possibly hold its own entirely unique niche. But even as more get added, they still have unique ~feels~! Which is incredible! But it also means that as more weapons are added, what's the point of only X weapon having Y ammo? There's already several pistols that hold the "fast shooting, double action" niche. So why should only one of them have Y ammo?

Just some thoughts from me. I didn't consult anyone in particular to make this answer, it's just an amalgam of my feelings from being on the team myself.

[dusky tapir]

I figured I was either gonna get roasted or banned outright, I appreciate your thoughts 🫂

[sharp veldt]

nah man, I think it's a valid thought from a long time player. But I mean, what niche does the Krag have over the Mosin? None really. What nice did the NArmy fill over the Officer? None really. But like they FEEL different and therefore ARE different. Yknow?

[dusky tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/the-studio-taking-notes-paying-attention-interested-gif-17315574

It's one of those things where intent might not be obvious at first glance so I figured I'd drop some 2questions
esp. when some additions turn out to be "annoying" ( for lack of better term)

Appreciate the insight

[dusky tapir]

an example of intent vs perception - another idea that sprung to mind is the custom ammo boxes. I understand wanting to eventually have all custom ammos available so that you don't have to stop and wonder "uh can my weapon take X"

[vital fractal]

This is getting saved

Honestly I feel like it can be answered tbh tho

[hot vigil]

I would disagree with your thinking of the NArmy and Officer being the same and only have a difference of "feel", NArmy have better recoil, reload and damage, but at the cost of lower MV and switch speed (which might be a bug but still a factor) vs. the Officer that have worse recoil, reload, but better MV. So as a player I have a choice, it ain't just the "feel" of the weapons that decides one over the other in this case, but an assessment of what I wanna play into or around with the choice of my gun.
Sure they are both rapid fire guns, but they work different enough for there to be a choice.
But then Officer got Dum Dum and one of its major shortcoming got null and for the trade of pen you now most likely gonna push your damage into the same threshold as the New Army.
That is when a niche dies.

[sharp veldt]

I write all of my responses with the knowledge they may be saved 😭 its a curse tbh sometimes i just wanna share my garbage opinions

[vital fractal]

Big answered it on the spot lol

[dusk spire]

hello , can anyone tell me short story about new engine / graphic update ?

any news or nah

[hot vigil]

No news so far :)

(to my knowledge)

[dusk spire]

Alrighty , thanks big man

https://tenor.com/view/iceage-possum-peaceout-gif-2272177960667492692

[sharp veldt]

Those minor stats don't move it to a new "niche" though. They make the guns different (positive), but they don't move one or the other into a new niche. They're not filling different roles

[vital fractal]

I mean a great example are the weapons you brought up, but also like Sparks and Martini

[thorny spindle]

Secret second account called "teloiV" for garbage opinion sharing, they will never know !!

[vital fractal]

But don’t the stats difference inherently mean with positive differences, that the guns are better suited for different roles hence fill different niches?

[vital fractal]

Honestly truth, you can astro turf us and no one would know

Use it to test controversial opinions tbh

From the team of course

[hot vigil]

Sure the are both rapid fire gun, but there used to be a reason to pick NArmy over Officer or vice versa, the addition of Dum Dum for the Officer made that less of a choice.

I just fear that groups of weapons just end up as "skins" rather than weapons.

Arguably how melee weapons is getting treated at moment, while I think Katana is a little too above the rest, choosing a melee weapons is basically what flavour of "bonk" you wanna bring.

[sharp veldt]

for me personally, there's never been a reason to pick the NArmy over the Officer 😄 And still isn't one. Unless I'm doing challenges ofc

[hot vigil]

Low recoil can do something and FMJ is still also a good edge it have over it :)

• Swift variant have saved me haha

[sharp veldt]

I don't use custom ammo 👀

[vital fractal]

I mean, I think just from the examples given it’s pretty easy to make a case for the roles and niches each weapon in the game had prior to the previous updates

[sharp veldt]

One of my garbage opinions

[hot vigil]

Honestly based, start thinking they were an overall mistake, had 3 deaths today where I could a killed a fool with wall bang, but nooooooooo someone had to deal poison damage for challenges lol :V

• they ruined prestige haha

[vital fractal]

It’s just as of recently, the spillover of certain ammos/variants + repositioning of melee really jeopardizes the balance of niches that were pretty easily recognizable imo and I think Cree is on point with his statements as well

Nonetheless, would be nice to hear the teams view on this concept

Would really help shape the discussion on certain things such as a possibility for Martini HV Vs Sparks HV and so on

[thorny spindle]

feel like the only time i dont use high velo or FMJ is when im using long ammo

[hot vigil]

That said, I completely understand if people don't care about overlapping weapons and just want an Lee Enfield that works practically the same as a Mosin.
Some people just want to see their fav gun.

[queen jungle]

long ammo just doesn't need special ammo ever unless you're sniping from far ranges and want quick headshots but even then

I just don't like the approach being taken on medium ammo, special ammo is being used as a bandaid fix for an inherently bad ammo type

it should actually be the middleground between compact and long with drop off

[hot vigil]

Or you are lazy and need to set people on fire for challenges.
40m is a lot of leeway for that.

[vital fractal]

Sparks incendiary ❤️

[queen jungle]

yeah incen is nice on split ammo long rifles but typically people wont run them on a lebel or mosin (except for challenges probably)

that pen is more valuable

but honestly just hope they review medium ammo heavily, buff its drop off and go back on a lot of the special ammo or nerf them slightly IF medium ammo becomes better

[sharp veldt]

I'm over here like "who can I get on a gameplay stream with little to no notice for this very specific topic"

[queen jungle]

😭

[sharp veldt]

THEY SAID YES

[queen jungle]

W

[thorny spindle]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!

[dusky tapir]

's why I was hoarding the question for a while

[sharp veldt]

the push was helpful

[dusky tapir]

1 - finding a good platform for it
2 - rewording and rewriting to not cause too much drama or come at it all "CRYTEK YOU DONE FUCKED IT"

someone... out typing me?

I am growing old...

[sharp veldt]

im fast

i type fast

zoomin

unless you ask me to type numbers. fingies too short

uncomf

[dusky tapir]

🤨

[sharp veldt]

bruh i got tiny hands

this is a common topic on the streams unfortunately

[dusky tapir]

[queen jungle]

My work-focused mind read that as "on the steam forums" initially and was confused but oddly enough it would make sense considering it's the Steam forums..

[thorny spindle]

i have a friend who can reach from control to backspace its nuts

i am a numpad enjoyer for numbers that contain more than one character

[sharp veldt]

from the home row, I cannot reach any numbers without actively like moving my hand to reach for it. its why i dont use my keyboard to play FPS

[vital fractal]

Does anyone in office use a track pad to play hunt?

[thorny spindle]

Asking the hard hitting questions

[sharp veldt]

uh. not that i know of? but honestly, i wouldn't know. I am remote

[safe mountain]

#game-ideas message people who dislike this... why? a lot of other fps have the option to accept being revived or not

[queen jungle]

The way I see it: dead is dead and doesn't get to make such a decision

You have to trust your teammates

[visual fjord]

2 5* and a 6* shouldn't share the same matchmaking as 2 5* and a 4* we aint packing the dolche p with fmj aint a fun fight

[safe mountain]

yep... the same teammates who revive you when you are being camped by a sniper, or drowned in concertina or poison

plus, like i suggest, if you like being revived without being able to chose when and when not, just chose that option in the game options

[queen jungle]

Sometimes you get people like that, shit happens. If you go down you have to rely on your teammates to save you.

[safe mountain]

also i think you are doing a twisted use of the "game logic"... yes, dead is dead, but in this game you can take a bullet of a nitro in the head and getting revived after... so being able to chose if you accept or not being revived is not a "crazy" option that defies the game logic or lore

[safe mountain]

this also happens in many other games, and in them you can accept or not to be revived... and it does not seem to be a "broken" option.

[queen jungle]

You cannot communicate at all when you're down. Cannot move, cannot interact with anything. Being able to control whether or not to get revived wouldn't make sense.

[queen jungle]

I can't think of any popular ones right now, do you have any examples?

[unborn sandal]

Well it’s not an exact correlation but in rust if you’re downed you can either f1 kill or wait for the chance that you stand up

In most games like apex or seige you can still communicate while you’re downed

I feel like with necro in hunt if you need a lore reason the soul/spirit/will or whatever you want to call it isn’t willing to be revived at that time

[queen jungle]

if you ask me, it could be seen a pretty big buff cause the whole deal with necro is that it leaves the person who is using necro vulnerable

having time to accept it when your teammate is no longer in that vulnerable state is pretty powerful

many others and myself would prefer a decline necro button as its being executed

[dusky tapir]

battlefield added that at some point iirc

[coral pulsar]

@safe mountain
Best to have the logic reverse me thinks. necro/rez works as normal and during the rez you can opt out it which puts the option to rez you on a 10 or so second cooldown.

[dusky tapir]

also I'd only do it for necromancer ( as that can be spammed to get you farmed )

not hand-to-hand revives

[coral pulsar]

@weary fox
Thats too much Me thinks for the drilling. Make it 430. But again we can't touch the stats on it.

[safe mountain]

that can work too

[queen jungle]

Not that I remember. You can just call for help or skip to respawn, but cannot really prevent somebody from reviving you (except by skipping to respawn, which you can do in Hunt too by leaving for the menu I guess).

Another good reason for there to be a deny necro button

the only alternative is leaving

[rotund obsidian]

just make necro burn off hp fuck it

[vague island]

Tell me what you think, guys - does basic Nagant Precision (not Officer) require a buff? Headshot range at least

Been playing with it today and it seems like a toy gun in the current meta

[rotund obsidian]

I think the base nagant just sucks. the precision is gonna suck anyway because it's just a base nagant with a stock. I don't think it'd make any sense for the precision to get any extra headshot range over the base nagant without it being an actual upgrade like the bornheim match.

[hot vigil]

I mean, just give it slightly longer barrel like the Match?

[rotund obsidian]

That's one option, but idk i'd rather just make the base nagant not garbage

[queen jungle]

I'd be a fan of giving nagant the bornheim match treatment

slightly more range/damage

very slight

on the precision variant

[queen jungle]

If you die you simply have to trust your teammates to make the right decision. If you don't trust them, reconsider palying with them. Or be more careful so you don't die as often.

I really don't think the game needs to hold people's hand like this.

[rotund obsidian]

random queue moment?

[queen jungle]

!lfg

[marsh garden]

Be sure to check out our LFG (looking for group) channels to find a partner:
For PC: #na , #eu, #asia, #oceania, #south-america
For consoles #looking-for-group-console & #looking-for-group-xbox
Regional LFG channels: #ru-поиск-игроков & #br-procurando-grupo

[rotund obsidian]

that's not random queue

i mean believe me i think a deny necro button is stupid too but 'dont play randoms' is not at all a good solution to that problem

[queen jungle]

There is no problem in the first place. If your (random) team mate messes up the revive on you, that certainly sucks. But shit happens.. New match, new team mate, new chance to win.

Especially with how extremely forgiving deaths in Hunt are these days.

[queen jungle]

literally we're being told you must suffer for playing randoms

lol

its a simple quality of life change that is not detrimental to anyone

it only has ups

[rotund obsidian]

I just think some of the responsibility should fall on the person using necro. it's too free to just spam necro

[queen jungle]

It's not a simple quality of life change, it's a massive shift in the "dead is dead" policy the game has had ever since the beginning.

not everyone wants to use lfg or even can use lfg

its a shift? what? denying necro?

how does that apply at all

its like being in a vc and telling your teammate "there's people literally on my body, dont necro"

but we dont have any randoms comms at all

[queen jungle]

Yes. Dead is Dead, i. e. you cannot interact with anything in the game anymore, you depend on your teammates to save the situation and get you up again.

except that's just untrue when you have premade teams

Yes, third-party comms are a huge issue regarding fairness in Hunt

its not an issue, it's part of the game design

Unfortuantely there's not really anything that can be done about it.

the issue stems when you neglect randoms

[rotund obsidian]

i think it's just a byproduct of how insanely spammable and consequence-free necro is for the person using it

[queen jungle]

randoms are neglected by game mechanics severely

[queen jungle]

No, the game design intends you to not communicate with your partner when you are down.

except crytek actively promotes this from the inception?

especially with the lfg here

so clearly that's not true, or isn't anymore

[rotund obsidian]

And also communication with randoms post-death is being implemented anyway?

[queen jungle]

there's literally zero drawbacks to someone being able to decline a necro

it only has ups

yeah that too

they're literally adding comms

[queen jungle]

You are aware this Discord is a third-party platform and not part of the game? LFG on here exists because unfortunately there is no way to prevent peopel from using third party comms.

The GAME does not want players to communicate when downed.

that whole game design may have held true once,

they're killing it now

lol

[queen jungle]

except they're adding team comms

natively

to the game

again, zero drawbacks to being able to decline necro, its only got ups

[hazy quartz]

wasn't it announced that communicating while dead will be a thing in the future?

[queen jungle]

yeah that's what taco and myself mentioned

[queen jungle]

Yes, it's an extremely unfortunate decision. But in line with Crytek making the game ever-easier.

So your argument of it being "the game does not want players to communicate when downed" is null then

[queen jungle]

Not really, it's been part of Hunt's core identity and still is to this day, despite what may have been mentioned somewhere. The changes haven't been made yet.

but it's been decided though

officially

by crytek

they are the ones who decide what hunts core identity is and they've decided to add full team comms

[queen jungle]

You seem to have insight into Hunt's development process to know what exactly is being implemented 😉

It was announced via roadmap? you had 2 members mention the same thing in here?

what are you talking about

or dev stream if not roadmap, either way it was told

this is public info

not sure why you need to hit me with a snarky comment

[rotund obsidian]

yeah they even specified death comms lol

[queen jungle]

Well that was something

not sure why they felt the need to hit me with a rude and condescending message

[rotund obsidian]

we DO have insight into the dev process lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxVu-IxiiIQ

[sharp veldt]

Still planned, yes

[ornate helm]

:NAILS:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031030740172939274/1106031351922167889/caption.gif

[ornate helm]

#game-ideas message

makes no sense

steel is like

super strong

i lerned that in skwel

[coral pulsar]

@paper edge We dont have fav traits for the same reason we still have to confirm throwing away contraband.

I dont know what that reason is but its the same reason

[paper edge]

sadge

[paper edge]

the funny thing im playing since the alpha phase and still this simple thing to build in my opinion it hard to request

they are busy to make another copy&paste event with new name and new sound effect but lookout on suggestions that we are ask for it hard them to make, it just seems they don't gives a fuck about the vote in that section and think about how to milk more that game

cause my old suggest got 50+ upvote and nothing happen it just say that they are not even look which suggest get upvote

[lean estuary]

That’s disappointing they’re adding the comms and death comms…I wish they reinforced the proximity mic chatting…so it feels more like 1800s gunfighter tactics and strategies, and not like everyone on a team has a satellite-radio

[rugged iron]

#feedback message @lyric beacon First of all its their Server so they can do whatever they want plus Just because Someones Steam Profile says China dosnt mean they are Form there LOL Just Look at my Profile for example

[queen jungle]

Agreed, it'll take away more of the atmosphere of Hunt

[rugged iron]

ye it wasnt needed at all imo because if people want coms that bad they can just use the lfg here

[rugged iron]

#feedback message @copper mantle most ppl i know (even new ppl) have no issues getting multiple done in a single game

even easier when you have teammates doing other stuff because its shared

[thorny spindle]

I mean, how much atmosphere did occasionally encountering a random team and obliterating them because they’re forced to use open comms really add?

[crystal plume]

Do you know that community managers have nothing to do with banning or "moderating" cheaters? Since your about me section seems to suggest that you don't

It wasn't an attack on your character

I was just pointing out it being incorrect

I don't think that there is one currently

#hunt-general message

Also since there have been people complaining about getting banned just recently there was probably a ban wave not too long ago

[red sand]

@warped briar Crows can hear minor soundtraps like hanging bottles, cans, twigs or glass. Even with beast-serker they fly off. (I'm unaware if this might be the occasion that happened with you. Though I was mentioning it just in case.)

[vague island]

some of the guys here told me, it is mods who I must ask for the event emoji in the server nickname. is that true?

[crystal plume]

#1218987115552047227

The vanity roles are at the bottom

[vague island]

got it, thanks

[signal mural]

@turbid shell Honestly, Hunt isn't for everybody and if the depiction of dead horses is enough to deter your friend I think he would still find plenty of other aspects to not continue playing.

I'm not trying to be inconsiderate but there shouldn't be arachnophobia-modes or other atmosphere-filters for Hunt. The game has been around awhile and implementing this sort of change would be an expensive task for very little gain if any - no offense.

[proven root]

yo Crytek, i just wanna suggest: You can extend the Event 3 more month, so you can keep quite 3 month longer about "super duper Engine update - which suddenly all infos stopped and never got offically mentioned again 😄 - haha you never dissapoint 😄

[wanton imp]

Crytek isn't a person :>

[proven root]

you dont say !

[signal mural]

They also said the earliest release would be April and then updated that to say -there wouldn't be more info until the Event wraps up. So... now you're chiding them for sticking to their clear statement?

[turbid shell]

Yeah I understand – I don’t expect anyone to take the suggestion seriously. 😉

[vague island]

is your friend okay with the looks of people rotting alive?

[turbid shell]

I could ask her, but zombies are a very common trope. As @signal mural said there likely are other factors as well like shooting people in the head which would deter people like that from touching the game. So nevermind 😉

[safe mountain]

I hope that 100 times in a row they have to play with brainless teammates who revive them under a cloud of poison, or in concertina.

[vague island]

you could find some friends to play with, instead of ranting on others' opinion

the problem with tweaking revive mechanics in any way - they can become easily abusable

or simply broken

like the Resilience with death pact

[frozen crater]

'people is brainless'

no further comment. lol.

[queen jungle]

the idea isn't bad, the suggestion is just a poor way of implementing it imo

should just be a simple button that cancels a necro

no timers or anything fancy

[tiny pivot]

eh, it’s understandable, things like the animal cruelty can be rough and i don’t agree with people giving the idea so much flak but it’s hard to imagine when a majority of the game involves fighting dead/undead dogs, horses etc

[vital fractal]

I mean, I recommend anyone with a weak constitution not look into the lore of this game lol

They have been lightening up a bit, going more into the creepy rather than gruesome details but

Considering this game is a zombie game, I think it’s a given some gore is going to be in game

Not to mention horses also serve a purpose * fit the setting so I can’t feasibly see them removed in a setting

[tiny pivot]

i guess the short of it is what other people already said, like

if a dead horse would be bothersome it’s odd to not imagine the rest of the game being upsetting

[vital fractal]

All I have to say is “Hive Lore.” That’s it lmao

[tiny pivot]

i know a lot of people who are CRAZY about horses though so the specific does make sense to me

[vital fractal]

This game has some really fucked up details but, no one ever really knows about it unless they read the book entries -> which I’m sure like <10% of the player population actually does

[tiny pivot]

a lot of people would probably dismiss it but i don’t think it’s unreasonable to at least think about these things

but not every game can be that inclusive

[vital fractal]

True I guess, people do tend to react to animal death much more negatively than human death in media

[tiny pivot]

this kind of becomes a huge conversation of morals really fast lmfao

but i suppose the zombie trope is so built into modern fiction meanwhile animal death is a very real and upsetting thing

segueing, when the fuck did they buff challenges because while i don’t mind, i don’t remember a patch note either

[vital fractal]

Lmao

[lean estuary]

The lore is pretty schizophrenic, but I know what you mean…although I would say the visuals in the game do (and should) have more of an impact than stuff like the hive story…just look at the piles of disemboweled rotting pig carcasses at the slaughterhouse…

Also…getting into that weird territory where people care more about rescue dogs than their neighbors

[tiny pivot]

it’s true

but i will admit the concern isn’t exactly not valid

[lean estuary]

What is this game rated? Mature?

It would suck if the tone is softened because some players don’t know what they’re getting into

[tiny pivot]

well, absolutely not

the thing is, like, acknowledging as people that the concern is real is one thing, and actually changing the game at all is another

sadly this persons friend or whatever just needs to find another game to play or learn to deal with it

[chilly nova]

I try to play a short session after work and 2 of 3 matches I've gotten into are that ashbloom crap.

Make that 3 of 4. What a waste of time.

4 of 5..

[dusky tapir]

HUNT's is a dying rotting world where you are motivated by greed to kill the ones supposedly on your side instead of focusing on the greater good

The game is rotten 100%

[weary fox]

American cowboys go bang bang and pew pew for money

[vague island]

Capitalism, am i right?

[weary fox]

We love capitalism.

[vital fractal]

I feel like some ambiance should be added to the bayou when playing

I’m talking distant gunshots, maybe the sound of fighting, people screaming/monster noises in the distance every now and then

Maybe the noises will depend on the weather but as it sits rn, almost 100% of the time any noise instantly indicates players

Maybe it’s time to switch it up a bit and get people to readjust to some minor changes that could alter the vibes of the bayou a bit

Nothing like crawling around the bayou at night hearing some poor sap 1 km away maybe having a concertina armor corner him

It’d definitely fit the theme of Hunt

And add some grim livelihood to the game

[rotund obsidian]

They'd have to be pretty careful about it though, since a lot of guns won't even be audible at extreme ranges, so it wouldn't make much sense to be hearing it outside the map unless you're next to the edges. Same with screams and monster sounds, those really don't go terribly far.

[chilly nova]

Way more cheaters recently than I've ever seen in Hunt. What's going on lately?

[tall nova]

where can I report a hacker

[vital fractal]

Enh, I wouldn’t add too much range to it- just sometime audible in the background-

Maybe to add a minor element of confusion with the gunfire but they could make them generic, as for the screams and monster sounds I think they could be generally audible from within buildings that are open or also on the open ground but not inside underground or similar-

Again, nothing too much or too directional or even too often- but something to add to the vibes

[tall nova]

I just got killed by an obvious cheater, we could see on dark sight he was outside the boundary of the map

tried to throw a dynamite to where the orange glow was, no hit

then at exit i was headshot 142 meters away by a mosin sniper

through the map

[vital fractal]

1. Did you record it
2. Did you get the name
3. Can you go to cryteks website and report it there- because that’s what you need to do

[tall nova]

I'm trying to save the nvidia higlight after this ends

[vital fractal]

Also you need their steam ID if you’re on pc

[tall nova]

'my partner is still in

and i will get the name

[vital fractal]

Get the ID too

[tall nova]

yes I'm on PC

ok how

[vital fractal]

From steam, idk I’m a console player

[tall nova]

ok

[vital fractal]

I’ve been told you need to look up their profile, if you can do that- look at their page and bio I believe

[shell ravine]

Does anyone know if the Devs for Hunt Showdown were ordered up from Wish . com? Asking for a friend.... Imagine having a game out for so long, but every now and then, the game crashes and resets EVERY setting and pretends its your first time booting the game up. Good job.

[frigid folio]

You dont NEED it, but it helps the devs. They can go through the game histories and see the players in the games. It just helps to narrow it down for them

[normal horizon]

when that happens make sure there is not a new user folder in the game files. if there is a user(1) delete that one and you should have your settings still.

[rugged iron]

#game-ideas message @vernal axle so im hacking too? https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199210184533

ppl are just baiting

[vague island]

no, but it is obvious you are griefing in Hunt

[rugged iron]

if playing the game is griefing sure 🙂

[vague island]

To be fair, I've run into real cheaters for, like, 5 or 6 times in 2200 hours of playing. Can't say that they are a real problem that destroys experience

[rugged iron]

agree

seen 0 in 1.6k

[vague island]

You basically do everything, so that a pissed off player would think you are a cheater, and therefor do everything so that their gaming experience would be ruined.

They get sad, they go to your page and see all the fake cheating stuff, get even more sad and leave the game or cry about the ban system upgrade. It is griefing

[rugged iron]

dosnt realy make it worse if theyr already screaming in voip at me

ye man that screenshot took me whole 5 minutes in illustrator drawing boxes and lines X_X

[vernal axle]

so what was your point in commenting on a post taht you arent even involved in?

[rugged iron]

my point is that just going of by a profile dosnt mean ppl are cheating. im happy to believe you if you show clips and stuff but somehow no one that accuses hackers usualy has any clips 🫠 i wonder why

[vague island]

how many cheaters have you met in your Hunt career?

[rugged iron]

let me call every guy that ever wallbanged a cheater brb give me 5 years to comment on 90% of hunt players

[jagged wagon]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19uO7Y-sTb5MvRM6gVDSOyxeuH0I-4CQ4/view?usp=sharing Here is a clip from just yesterday of blatant cheating, its alive and well I am afraid.

[sharp veldt]

@hushed current You can change that.

[crystal plume]

Or just derendering, went to check that spot in trials from blanchett and there's a spot where you can see through to the stairway on the other side

[jagged wagon]

he was derendering the entire building then, because he also shot both my team mates through different parts of the building. Cheating with 3rd party applications or cheating by exploiting the games failures, doesn't matter which... its cheating no matter how you want to spin it.

[crystal plume]

There is a technical difference though and generally a different punishment as well due to the different principles as well

Both obviously suck and should be banned and prevented

But there is also a difference between someone going out of their way to acquire actual cheat software and someone being 200m away and shooting through something that wasn't rendering because of low settings

[jagged wagon]

Being as the account was set to hidden stats and 2 blocks for a name preventing any chance of getting the steam ID, I will maintain this is no innocent "Should I be able to see them?! uwu??". If they were exploiting, it was clearly intentional. All the details I can give have been sent to crytek support.

[hushed current]

Thank you kindly! It's a shame, but sadly I do run into disruptive players too routinely to leave the social features enabled. 😦

[rare vortex]

Experience bias seems to affect a lot when it comes to voting

[hot vigil]

In what sense?

[rare vortex]

How people feel and discuss about issues like flash bombs before, dolches, long ammo meta, desync, etc

By fact you doing feel the same environment in different MMRs

[hot vigil]

Well at the end of the day most people lack any education when it comes to game design.
But because game design itself is very intangible concept, it is easy to have the confident to think one knows better :)
And most people only know what they experience themselves, so bias will be a greater factor of their judgement.

[rare vortex]

no wish or need to judge by MMR
however when someone argues that something is fine because "people don't use it much" or "it costs a lot" or "it doesn't feel that strong" and you remember the person talking about their games being in 3-4 star

[hot vigil]

I agree :)

Especially a game like Hunt just have a lot of a factors where the weapons (tools) can be a major boon for a player that use it.
Compared to local (armature) league football, as long people are equally matched, there ain't really a way people can abuse the rules of the game to get an edge stomp lower leagues or vice versa.

[weary fox]

Hunt pew pew

[rare vortex]

Hunt doesn't grade people by gear score, but games like Cycle and Dark&Darker have. The more you pay, the more capable a weapon, the more effective you are. It might only be very slight, but it's still paying for advantages

[hot vigil]

Yeah, hunt omits to do a lot of things that would make the game healthier

Ofc at the end of the day someone will think that gun is bs.

[rare vortex]

They choose not to, probably again because of population size

[hot vigil]

Is Dark and Darker that much better tho?

[rare vortex]

Better?

[hot vigil]

Like in player count

[rare vortex]

I wouldn't know, but there are people who love it and it gets constant monitoring and hotfixing about balancing whats too strong and not

[hot vigil]

Old hunt also used to get that :')

[rare vortex]

Yeah...

old Hunt

[hot vigil]

But yeah, said it before, saying again, this elusive engine update is my make or break for Hunt.

[rare vortex]

at least for D&D the quick hotfixing can mean a new update patch in less than a week

[rare vortex]

very very same

[hot vigil]

Ofc, gonna be slight fair, engine update + 2-3 months to see if they actually a willing to be more on hands with their game

[rare vortex]

That's the fairest we can give

because the only reason I have heard for fixes and features being withheld is to build them on the new engine instead

[dire jetty]

Does anyone else feel like the katana is kind of a problem?

[slow apex]

They will just port the game along with it's current bugs on the engine upgrade. I don't have any high expectations, but beefier graphics.

[slow apex]

As long as you can pop them in the head, it's not a problem. They'll probably nerf it in time though. I've haven't used it personally, last melee I used, was the saber when it came out.

[frigid folio]

Katana is fine tbh, only thing is now that it's a 1 slot there's no point bringing any other melee. But in terms of PvP it's in a good spot. If you let someone get close enough to use it, either you have made gameplay errors or your opponent has played very well. A melee weapon gets shut down very easy by a headshot, high fire rate weapons, shotgun, traps or just simply running away and letting your team mate pick off the person chasing you

Personally I don't think the answer to the 1 slot buff to katana is to nerf it, but to bring the other melees up to the same level of the katana. Make choosing a melee a personal choice on gameplay rather than one being outright stronger than the other

[dire jetty]

high fire rate weapon is not a one shot, head shots counter everything and is not a great counter if its the only option. My main problem is the range of the sheathed attack and the swiping motion meaning you dont even need to aim with it. Obviously its usless if your caught in the open but there is a reason why every six star game has at least 4 or 5 katana players with long ammo rifle

[proper trellis]

Just make it medium size again. There was literally zero point in making it a 1 slot

[frigid folio]

High fire rate weapons benefits aren't that it 1 shots? It's that you can fire and then half a second later fire again, a nagant officer pistol can 2 shot at close range. So as long as you aren't sitting on top of the katana and land your shots you win.

I personally bring a katana not for PvP but more for boss killing. While yes I will use it for pvp in close combat it wasn't the sole purpose of bringing it

[proper trellis]

On a completely unrelated note. Solo self review should have never been introduced to the game. (sorry just malding currently after being robbed of a number of good games by this trait)

[dire jetty]

i disagree especailly inside buildings if you have time to two shot then they are not using the katana correctly imo

[frigid folio]

I both agree and disagree, I agree they should not of made it a 1 slot with it being leaps and bounds better than other melee choices. But I think it would be better to bring the other melees that were also being overshadowed by the cav saber up to its level instead 🤔

[proper trellis]

agreed, other melees need love, hammer and axe are complete jokes

[frigid folio]

Which brings us back to being outplayed or playing well, which I said in my original comment

[rotund obsidian]

While i definitely don't think katana is overpowered or anything, it'd alleviate most of my frustration with it if ping wasnt such an annoyance. trading sucks.

[dire jetty]

but my point is there is not really a good counter to it inside buildings with corners and tight spaces. Which is my original point but i dont think we can agree on this matter

also its not a BIG problem if it is one at all but i feel like it could use some tweaking at least making it 2 slot again

[frigid folio]

Using a weapon as intended shouldn't have a hard counter though? It should have small game play counters (like not pushing a corner when they have a katana and keeping your distance) but not a hard counter than makes it pointless bringing it

[unborn sandal]

Stop the power creep

Old weapons shouldn’t be adjusted to keep up with newer (better) weapons

The new weapons should just be properly balanced

[frigid folio]

I agree, but the old weapons were also drastically underpowered and need slight buffs

[rotund obsidian]

melee was fine before, saw plenty of sabers and even a few machetes/axes, then baseball bat was pretty popular. now katana is still fairly common and ive maybe seen one bat and one saber since katana's release

I think the melees were in a pretty solid spot right before bat came out, bat was a teensy tiny bit overtuned in comparison but honestly i think not being able to 1 shot immos was enough of a nerf

katana was absurd though. crazy pve damage, consistent oneshots with the longest range and the strongest attack worked with no stamina.

[frigid folio]

Melee was in an okay spot, you'd bring an axe because it was funny/a challenge and good for PvE, you'd never bring a hammer because why would you? You'd bring a cab for PvP because of its stabbing motion making 1 shots easier + a bit of extra range on the axe. The bat was a nice in-between, I think it's 1 shot in pvp was too reliable over the other melees but it's fast swing definitely made it a PvE machine

[rotund obsidian]

Okay yeah, hammer was absurdly bad. like it was comical how bad it was.

[frigid folio]

How bad it is* 😆

[rotund obsidian]

yeah :L

I actually took machete over saber for pve cause it was funny but bat kinda filled that same role. I think my biggest problem with the bat was that the light and heavy swing were both pretty much identical

besides damage and stam ofc. but like if i was watching a video of someone swinging it i probably wouldnt be able to tell which was which

coulda given it like, a diagonal arc on the light swing or something idk

[frigid folio]

My issue with the bat and I don't know if it's still an issue, was you could start to hold for a heavy swing then let go the moment they pulled the bat back slightly and they'd swing dealing full heavy swing damage but in a fraction of the time

[rotund obsidian]

yeah the heavy swing comes out and recovers incredibly fast

I feel like a much longer recovery time would've been fine, and coulda given machete a bit of room to exist

it's also not exactly easy to swing a bat hard enough to instantly kill someone with a torso hit multiple times in quick succession

[frigid folio]

I'm honestly surprised we didn't see more hornskin use when bats were going crazy tbh

[rotund obsidian]

i tried it and it really just didn't matter. unless you were melee trading, the second swing would just come out instantly anyway

[frigid folio]

True 😅 I think a good balance to the katana is increase the recovery time after a heavy swing 🤔 maybe similar to the time it takes to resheath, but slightly quicker?

But even with a katana nerf, you'd still need a buff to the other melees. You'll just see people either bring QM for katana or bring either Cav or bat again. The other melees would still be forgotten about because they are useless

Or make all 1 slot melees be 2 hit kills unless headshot, keep 1 shot melee to 2/3 slot weapons

[rotund obsidian]

i know melees that dont oneshot are gonna end up being pretty useless but like. the huge sweeps are kinda crazy. i liked the distinction between saber's reach and machete's shorter range wide swipe, and everything that's come out since kinda just makes both obsolete lol

[frigid folio]

I think making the quick attacks pvp orientated (2 shot quick recovery) and the heavy more pve orientated (long recovery but higher damage) would sit in an alright place 🤔 like you could still use the heavy as a more accurate attempt at a headshot, but if you miss it has a cost

Where as right now I feel the cost for missing isn't all that bad

[vital fractal]

Tbh the melee weapons that need a fix rn are the Katana (move to two slot), Hammer (needs something unique to be viable, maybe be the cheapest option + have knock down effect?), and bat (slow down swing rate?)

Everything else is in a decent spot tbh

[unborn dagger]

Yeah moving Katana to one slot was one of the dumbest balancing changes.

[vital fractal]

Indeed

[vague island]

decent = barely usable, you mean

funny like devs finally added a melee weapon that can compete within the meta, and yet there are people who want to nerf it

the hammer would have been a great weapon, if there was at least a little bit of environment destruction in the game: mb exclusive to it and dynamite. like breaching specific wall, floor and fence areas on location (not any)

the lack of destructibility always seemed odd, escpecially considering that in Crysis 1 there were so-to-say shitty huts built of metal sheets that were very fun to destroy

like these

[vital fractal]

Uh tf?

Maybe this is a pc console disconnect but the Katana is way over powered for a one slot melee spot- it’s by far the best hands down, it was fine as a 2 slot but now it’s just unarguably the best

[vague island]

it is, but it doesn't mean katana need nerf

[vital fractal]

That means it does lmao

[vague island]

it means other melee needs buff

[vital fractal]

No

We don’t need more power creep

[vague island]

dude, if you let a melee player on distance of a melee attack - you deserve to lose

[vital fractal]

And most times people lose

Melee doesn’t really need a buff bar the hammer, and maybe MAYBE combat axe

[vague island]

than katana works as intended

yeah, and also machete

[vital fractal]

Not really if it is so noticeably better than the others

[vague island]

and also saber

[vital fractal]

Not at all

The katana had a good role as a medium slot melee

It was a superior melee but required more investment via traits or med slot loadout commitment

Now it’s a no brainer

Without harming the rest of the game, it’d be best to return it to two slot

As opposed to buff every other melee and potentially make matters worse in an unforeseen way

And I say that as someone who runs melee a lot

Maybe again, perception difference is due to PC Console differences though

[vague island]

You are a console player?

[vital fractal]

Yes

[vague island]

Say no more

No surpise you guys think katana is OP

[vital fractal]

Melee is a much different animal on console

[vague island]

Yeah, hard to aim and shit

Well, on PC katana feels like finally a single consistent melee weapon. The one that can give you melee kills against shotguns and fanning without a trade

And a good counter against a long-ammo weapons at CQC, which are basically useless against the katana rush

People on PC simply aim much better

So any other melee is an underdog, due to many reasons: lack of speed, reach and sometimes even damage

Exactly why I believe that if it is weapon slot melee - it must secure a kill with a torso hit, no matter lower or upper

And they are underdogs not due to katana being strong. They are just either bad, or close to that. Katana is basically the first melee weapon done right in this game

[vital fractal]

In a pc players eyes I guess

But the situation just simply too different on console

[vague island]

Explosive ammo sends its regards

Non existant thing on PC, thanks to the console players

[vital fractal]

As a console player the only bad melee weapons truly are the Hammer and Axe

And true, explosive ammo got the nerf hard because of console lol

And even the axe is still very usable

Like the hammer is just simply horrible

But that’s it, all the other options are good tbh

But then the katana blows all of them out of the water

So that’s why my opinion is as it stands- in context of also not being in favor of giving players arsenals more overall power

[vague island]

As I said, because they are simply worse. It is not a question of katana - it's a question of other melee weapons

[vital fractal]

As per the difference we laid out

[rotund obsidian]

I think katana is so significantly stronger than the other melees that it's odd. and also it shouldn't work without stamina.

When you have one melee that does everything with no drawbacks, there's not really room for the other melees to exist

I'd rather nerf the katana than powercreep every other melee up to katana tier artificially (but obviously there's a middle ground)

[worthy turret]

Too many cheaters in 5-6* lately time to crack down on the anticheat algorithm. It has become blatantly apparent that the current system is failing

[obsidian garden]

Yeah man imagine with avtomat just shoot out part of wall of enemy boss lair

[vague island]

that would be R6 Siege level of destruction, and it would be bad for Hunt (funny though)

[rugged iron]

im down

make bullet holes actualy holes

so we can peek through em

[vague island]

nah, it will be terrible

[rare vortex]

The katana problem being discussed isn't that the weapon is too strong

it just feels bad to play against when trading is forgiving it

it's already loaded with martialist and one click is all it takes. Basically if bow : crossbow

[hot vigil]

I mean... it is also too strong lmao
Just that the strongest melee weapon is still... well a melee weapon.

[rare vortex]

then bomblance : katana

the crossbow is inherently stronger because of being horizontal and preloaded and swinging fast

so fast that with the trade window that was never shortened people are killing you without the animation of swinging even showing

just because they managed to unload the martialist swing on their own screen after rushing you with the ping difference

[hot vigil]

Honestly my biggest gripe with katana is that the X swing is a horizontal swing making it easy to hit with + it deals more damage + it can be used with no stamina.

[rare vortex]

it should at the very least be like bomblance angle

just opposite

upward-right

[hot vigil]

Just make it vertical

[rare vortex]

making it horizontal was just to make it feel good

because you wouldn't miss

[hot vigil]

Yeah

Light stab, heavy horizontal, X vertical.

[rare vortex]

its L and H reversed

unless you mean to change that too

[hot vigil]

I want to change that too, make Saber be the pointy h attack

No reason katana does that too

[vital fractal]

I mean it’s not like bomb lance vs katana is bow vs xbow

Bomb lance is balanced by being three slot… katana is just too strong as a one slot lmao

[rare vortex]

bomblance is a "katana" that needs to be drawn back first (unless you're someone who relies on the light)
a gunblade in effect
katana could be 1 slot if it wasn't just a bomblance without the gun part

it should go back to being 2 slot

keep the axe and hammer buffs maybe, those were never worth 2 slots because of needing to be aimed direct hits

[hot vigil]

Eyup, katana needs to be 2 slot

[rare vortex]

it could stay one slot if it wasn't just squashing the machete

I notice they tried to differentiate them a little by attack speed being faster on the underdog options

but that really doesn't do enough to justify being shorter reach and less damage

machete is just a weapon slot heavy knife

[steel comet]

Drilling handcannon hatchet got melee, shotgun and rifle rounds and it's a medium slot.

[rare vortex]

same attack patterns too

[steel comet]

Making a melee only weapon medium slot is weird in a shooter game

[rare vortex]

Drilling Hatchet getting a better sway than its non Hatchet variant makes no sense at all

not going into "maybe more weight means less sway"

[steel comet]

It's a balancing choice. You get faster reload with non hatchet variant

[rare vortex]

but by game balance

[steel comet]

They first implemented this change to the omero handcannon and hatchet

So they'd be different

[rare vortex]

Romero hatchet doesn't have the handcannon buff?

[steel comet]

Romero handcannon without hatchet got faster reload, like drilling without hatchet

[rare vortex]

Also side topic, I would wish they give us the actual figures instead of lots of descriptions that contain "drastically decreased" or such

[steel comet]

What's the context? With the drastically decreased

[rare vortex]

Mithridatist for example

[steel comet]

Ah

Yeah that'd be nice.

Vigor is a trait that does much more than the trait description says

You can get rid of poison faster with vigor

[rare vortex]

Same for that

and singed HP too

[steel comet]

Yeah the charcoal

[rare vortex]

Main gripe is math matters a lot in games

and withholding the values makes no sense other than to confuse players

[steel comet]

This is why a wiki explaining these things would be good. I heard people say that hunt isn't like elden ring where you dont need a lot of technical information

Meanwhile i think otherwise

The game doesn't tell you half of it, you have to stumble upon it or hear it from someone else

[rare vortex]

data surveying is a banned word?

what.

mining

[steel comet]

The original word is against tos and server rules.

[rare vortex]

I mean... why?

[steel comet]

Well, people getting information that's not public isn't allowed.

[rare vortex]

it's a term used to describe experimenting by running slightly varied trials over and over again

until they get a consistent answer

[steel comet]

It's commonly used for the illegal actions

Well, what you were trying to say isn't breaking any rules so

[rare vortex]

As someone who studies cybersec I have the opinion that saying "data something" is a bad word is dumb

wtf man

[hot vigil]

Well, issue is that MOST people would just come in here and ask/talk about the terminology in the illegal way.

[steel comet]

It's for moderation, there's more terms that could be acceptable but 9/10 people use it for reasons that breaks TOS or server rules

[rare vortex]

I suppose that makes it okay to lessen rioting

[hot vigil]

It is a classic case of "this is why we can't have nice things"

[tawny meadow]

Nice things are forbidden.

[hot vigil]

:(

[rare vortex]

going back to what we were discussing about things in the game not being explicitly explained

We should have values explicitly said somewhere in game

I don't think there really is more to discuss it than to say we should have it

[steel comet]

We've had cases like Lightfoot jumping, where parts of the community have been using this for their own benefits while another part of the community was clueless about it.
This is a mechanic that originally was unintended, but they were definitely known for a long time since they added a Lightfoot jump Nerf, where you couldn't jump repeatedly quietly, and had to wait between jumps.
That's when a description to the perk could've been added.

[rare vortex]

Those things took a bit of theorycrafting and observing content outside the game for it

[steel comet]

Today it's irrelevant I guess, but it's been a long time where more people could've known if the game let them know about it.

[rare vortex]

I'm not entirely for either side of lightfoot

[hot vigil]

Tama, if you want to lose your fucking mind, try experimenting with explosives in the shooting range :))))))))

[rare vortex]

I can see why they would remove something that lets you change angles or sneak around virtually silently (have not heard of anyone who can hear lightfooting)

[steel comet]

Try normal nitro ammo and shoot through brick + metal (it will pen)
But if you shoot metal + brick it won't pen.

[rare vortex]

but also it was one of the only outplay techniques that let you get the drop on an opponent for less trading scenarios

[steel comet]

I liked pre-nerf Lightfoot. I can understand why they nerfed it, a lot of people were unaware of what it could do which made it even more effective/stronger

[rare vortex]

The floor at Catfish on the south side with the wooden sliding door just does not stop frag bombs and stickies consistently

[vague island]

pre-nerf lightfoot was a rofl

[steel comet]

It's not the first Lightfoot nerf though.

[rare vortex]

if you're under and a sticky or frag bomb goes off on top of that wood floor, you're getting the full effect

So with lightfoot being nerfed, I can understand because it wasn't detectable as Hunt being proud of "everything makes sound"

but then bushes are still left out of this

make bushes slow you and rustle more

for trying to move through them

[hot vigil]

As I've said, explosives in Hunt are consistently inconsistent

[rare vortex]

Make it punishing to rat silently in them (if you miss and need to start moving)

or if you move at all to reposition you risk giving yourself away

by making them rustle louder

Stillwater has many locations that bushes can be just fully sunk into

[steel comet]

Desalle as well.

Even got mounds with bushes

[rare vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-hiding-embarrassed-bush-gif-17685536

Stillwater Pitching forest or forest above Alice and east of Darrow (some call it fkboy forest)

[vague island]

I am not a big bush fun, yet again, bushes in the open are one of the few ways to save yourself from long ammo enjoyers

[rare vortex]

be like homer simpson sinking into the bush

[rare vortex]

they can be used for covering concealment but not as a stationary ghillie suit with no disadvantages (no rustling, no slowing)

[vague island]

If you ask me, I would make sprinting in the bushes louder, and also make it easily caught on fire with molotovs, which will completely cover the bush volume with fire, not only the zone hit

[rare vortex]

is what I believe they fairly should be

[winged skiff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wANdswr9U3k

I hope they give the Mako a slight ROF buff with Iron Eye, as its pretty disappointing atm

[hot vigil]

Eeeeh, still a fast gun and have 1-tap to upper chest on downed hunters.

And honestly Iron Eye increasing the RoF of ANY gun is stupid and shouldn't be in the game, but I digress

[winged skiff]

Well not very far out, its only 4 dmg from being below that level.

[winged skiff]

I understand it, it just has to be more consistent, i.e. same percentage for all guns.

[rotund obsidian]

I mean sure, but there's no dropoff for 40 meters so it's a big breakpoint even if it's 1 damage away

[hot vigil]

That might break some guns, but that could ofc be adjusted :)
For me I dislike the fire-rate gain bc it is sucha "mandetory" trait for those guns.
Which is a lot of guns

Think the major issue is that the Mako got added too late when we already have a long ammo rifle over-saturation.

[winged skiff]

I know, but it just doesn't really feel that significant, esp. since the "important" fights will be vs full health hunters usually, and hence you're still going for that 2 tap mostly. Hence I really think the Mako needs a ROF boost, as currently the Krag is just way faster.

[hot vigil]

That is because guns like the Mosin exist haha.
That rifle makes anything else secondary.

[rotund obsidian]

I think the opinions on the krag are EXTREMELY divided, a lot of people think "oh its pretty good cause its fast and the two taps are nice" and the other half think "not 125? absolute garbage tier, belongs in dumpster"

[winged skiff]

Well, you CAN play them without, do it all the time, but yeah its definitely mandatory as a first trait pick with such weapons

[hot vigil]

Sure, but if I pick a springfield because I want to have fun, I get out-gunned by someone else picking the mosin.

[winged skiff]

I love the Krag, been my main long rifle for a long time, and still is

[rotund obsidian]

I think trying to bring the mako up closer to the krag's firerate without that 124 weakness might be problematic

because while yeah i think the krag is really strong, if it was 125 i think it'd be TOO strong

[hot vigil]

Word, this ain't about buffing other long ammo, but nerfing Mosin and Lebel.

[rotund obsidian]

I think the mako performs reasonably, it's just that there are some guns that continue to dwarf every other

[winged skiff]

Thing is the Krag has other benefits on top, like the faster reload and MV which makes HS easier

610 vs 540 m/s is not joke, it can really be felt

[hot vigil]

laugh in 400m/s

People have it too good

[winged skiff]

So I think giving the Mako 1.5 sec ROF (currently 1.6) vs Krag at 1.4 sec, would be fair trade for that 4 extra dmg but noticably lower MV.

[hot vigil]

Woops you just made the Cenny null.

[winged skiff]

Cent actually shoot much faster than 1.5, the devs just never updated the stat card since its 20% ROF buff in 2022

[rotund obsidian]

I would make the krag 400m/s if it meant it would deal 125 lol

(i already sometimes take fmj on it lol)

[winged skiff]

I wouldn't, to me 1 tap on downed hunters is not really that important, I treasure effectiveness vs full health hunters more

[hot vigil]

Sure faster, but why would you pick Cenny over a Mako if Mako got faster?

[winged skiff]

Because the Cent is still way faster, it can shoot faster than Vetterli with Iron Eye

[rotund obsidian]

iron eye bonuses

[winged skiff]

Yeah its all over the place

[hot vigil]

Sure, but Hunt ain't about being the fastest shooting gun, but fast enough.

Mako gets a shit ton of benefit of being a 125+ damage gun, like 2-tapping arm shots at 49-50m

So "high enough" fire-speed is very dangerous on those guns

[winged skiff]

I understand that, different people have different preferences, its just that is what would make the most sense for this gun. That said, fixing the atm bugged cycling animation with EE for the Mako would go some way in itself, as that really throws you off as to when you can fire again

[hot vigil]

The issue I see is that you are balancing around other long ammo rifles, but not taking into account every other weapon in Hunt should also have have a place.
As I said before, this ain't an issue of the Mako being bad, but long ammo standards are too high.

[winged skiff]

No I am, like I said I am taking into considering also the Cent, which I would still pick with FMJ (+ dual Pax pistol) for a more versatile build, as it would still shoot noticably faster.

[hot vigil]

But as I said, don't think fire-rate alone makes the Cent good enough to compete against a Mako if Mako got its fire-rate buffed.

[winged skiff]

Cent has the additional advantage of a faster starting MV, meaning it gets those FMJ at good MV of 480 m/s, meaning it can pen stuff the Mako can't

[hot vigil]

Because Cent sure fires faster, but have medium bullets and deals less damage.
A Mako can 2-tap arms at 50'ish meter. So fire rate on that gun is very dangerous.

[winged skiff]

Cent also pairs with better secondary options, allowing for better fighting ability up close = I typically pick dual long pax with it, also with FMJ. And that load out is killer

[hot vigil]

I mean, you can get a Dolch for a Mako

Litereally anything can go with a Mako as much as they can go on a Cenny

[winged skiff]

Then you have VERY little reserve ammo

[hot vigil]

15 ammo is plenty

[winged skiff]

that sucks in bigger games

I often get into prolonged fights

[hot vigil]

Well, ammobox, high ammo backup such as an Officer/Spitfire/New Army.

Quatermaster for LeMat Uppercut?

[winged skiff]

Ammo box dont give you more than 5 long bullets

[hot vigil]

That is PLENTY

[winged skiff]

Uppermat is what I typically run yes, but its expensive AF and requires QM which is also a 6 point trait

[hot vigil]

Sorry, but if you cannot make 15 long bullet work, I think that you might be playing in different MMR bracket than I

And that is by no means an insult

Or to dismiss your takes

[winged skiff]

I play in 5-6 star, which sucks tbh

[hot vigil]

Me too

[winged skiff]

hovering between 5-6 is the worst

It goes from being balanced to just getting dunked on

[hot vigil]

And in my experience, 15 bullets + what you loot along the way is enough for 99% of my Hunt matches.

[winged skiff]

Ive got 2,200 hours ingame too, so trust I know the game in and out

[hot vigil]

And I've played since Early Access too :)

[winged skiff]

Yeah same

[hot vigil]

So I must admit you wanting to buff long ammo, the evergreen meta, seems a little odd.

Or well, the Mako

Which is part of that

[winged skiff]

IMHO the Mako with a slightly buffed cycling rate (ROF) from 1.6 to 1.5 is in order, I can't imagine that would make it OP at all, as the Krag is still faster, has higher MV and reloads faster (hence it would probably still be my main), and the Cent is also noticably faster, higher capacity, faster reloading and way cheaper

We have to remember that price of the weapon also plays a part, as if a cheaper weapon isn't objectively worse, then the pricing system is pointless

I never pick the Dolch btw, eventhough its the best pistol ingame, the price is too prohibitive for me

[hot vigil]

I think the Mako is perfectly fine as it is, it is cheap, down the road well at everything it does and have versatility to it with its variants.
Might just wanna see a stat shake up between the Krag and Mako than anything.
Or even better long ammo overhaul, but that is another topic haha.

[winged skiff]

I'd atleast like to see them fix the cycling animation for the Mako with EE as a start, as that is just annoying as all heck.

They need to speed that thing up so it matches the actual ROF

[rotund obsidian]

EE?

Eron Eye

[winged skiff]

Yeah

Watch video at time stamp, and slow it to 0.25: https://youtu.be/wANdswr9U3k?t=235

[rotund obsidian]

i mean it definitely shoots early but there are much worse cases of shooting during a cycle. the winfield still shoots with the entire gun sideways without iron eye, i believe

[winged skiff]

You can see the gun can fire WAAY before the bolt is slid back into place:

they need to fix that cycling animation (aka speed it up) so that it matches the actual ROF, as it truly throws you off as to when it can actually shoot again

[rotund obsidian]

this is the default winfield lmao

from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybWsaQIeX8c

at around 4:50

[winged skiff]

Yeah but atleast with the Winnie it looks like the hammer is back, its just you can shoot before you as a player get back into sight picture.

with the Mako the bolt isn't actually back into place before you can fire, which is physically impossible IRL as that means the round isn't even fully chambered yet 😄

But already submitted a report on that in feedback, so just hope the devs actually see/listen to it 😛

[obsidian narwhal]

@unborn sandal i both love and hate that martini

[hot vigil]

I love it, issue is that it would give it an ABYSMAL muzzle velocity.
But like the idea anyways, still gonna be an interesting addition that ain't gonna 100% kill the springfield compact

[dusky tapir]

Sparps precision type beat

[unborn sandal]

The only problems with the martini shorty is it would operate in pretty much the same niche as the uppercut precision

but crytek doesn’t seem to care that much considering the marathon is pretty much the Winfield

[wanton imp]

i mean the marathon is quite different from the classic winfield. you lose out on levering and lose 1 round on reload in exchange for better overall stats.

[hot vigil]

One is a 6 shooter the other is a single shot

[shell ravine]

Negative, only one user folder. Any other reasons this may occur, so I can have it not do that again when your game crashes?

[manic dock]

this game has done everything in it's power to discourage scope usage, and im not even a sniper player. With the new time of days, half of maps are unfavorable scope conditions, which is why so many matches seem empty because players extract early into the match before it truly begins

[cerulean elm]

What he said

[manic dock]

if it were up to me i would add option to dismount scope from rifle at the beginning of the game, that way people neither extract for "No ReAsOn", nor do new players feel discouraged from learning

[cerulean elm]

What he said pt 2

[shell ravine]

guys, don't question the devs. They know what they are doing with Dave at the helm. They fixed all the bugs, and keep the same re-skinned events going like EVERYONE asks for ya know!

Just don't question the masterminds behind this game

[vital fractal]

I’ve had 6 day matches in a row

Of the like 15 matches I’ve played today, 2 were ash

A couple rain or night

You choose a loadout knowing there’s a rng element to the weather, then you adapt- btw you can use a sniper scope within compounds to good effect even in ash or night…

Or just, use your secondary- like a sniper can do lmao

[thorny spindle]

The real annoyance of rain maps is their effect on sound queues. Scopes still function as scopes on rain, you might just have to use them a bit differently.

[cerulean elm]

Skill issue

[thorny spindle]

Holding in-compound angles is still a great way to play them

[manic dock]

which is why so many rain maps or such are empty enough, because those players who play them seriously dont stick around

they ectract instead

like i said, "lmao"

[cerulean elm]

You are the type to remind the teacher to collect homework at the end of the class

[shell ravine]

whats wrong with that, if I had to do homework, you better believe I want that shit to count. Not my fault the other kids didn't do it.

Their problem, not mine.

[manic dock]

nerd

[cerulean elm]

Im picking you last in gym 100 %

[manic dock]

@cerulean elm you can join my team, welcome to server

[vital fractal]

No argument just attack me lmao nice discussion

[vital fractal]

Empty? I seem to find players just fine

Now I can’t aim well enough to kill em but they are there lol

[cerulean elm]

3 MMR will do that for you

[vital fractal]

3 MMR, 5/6 too

I jump through all the brackets cause the MMR in this game ain’t stable at all

[shell ravine]

Makes sense you are still in school. Highschool was an easy waste of time. College was even worse of a joke... but here we are, in real life society, talking about picking last in gym regarding a video game. GG all

❤️

[vital fractal]

Bro bait used to be believable

Tell Lust I’ll be seeing her aight lil envy?

[shell ravine]

i like your teeth

[cerulean elm]

❤️

[keen bolt]

@vague island holy crap that was such a great idea but loadout look should definetly be tuned down

[unborn dagger]

That's uhh... pretty sad

[somber marsh]

is ping on servers getting unstable again?

[chilly nova]

@unborn gyro I wish I could actually upvote feedback posts

[queen jungle]

@round shale You happen to have a video of this? Never had any issues with dogs unless I missed and if there's a problem it should be looked into 🤔

[ornate helm]

😛

[unborn dagger]

@long compass Genuinely a genius idea

Honestly it would be a pretty interesting idea to make it combined with Serpent Moon

[vital fractal]

Honestly surprised there isn’t different types of night, I mean truly different

Serpent is just slightly brighter green tint

There should 100% be a Super dark night, Bright night (serpent), and normal night * the weather aspects such as rain, ash, and fog be modifiers on top

[echo drum]

Why is the matchmaking so ungodly bad? I play with my friends (trying to get them interested in the game) I'm 5 star at the time of matchmaking, my buddies are 3 and 4 star. Back to back games get put into games against full 6 star stacks. How is that even fair/fun?

[dim valve]

Fair

[vital fractal]

The logo on the glass bottle jiggles with the liquid as if it isn’t molded onto the glass but part of the liquid

When you move it

🗿

Same for the scratches and marks on the glass

[queen jungle]

?

[vague island]

there really exist people who want to buff shotguns even more

is this real?

[vague island]

@weary fox I really think most people are over exaggerating about cheaters and are not objective. I, myself, tend to suspect cheaters in everyone when I am tilted or just have a bad day, but in the end I just need to git gud

Like, again, I've only met 5-6 cheaters in 4 years of playing Hunt. Yet again, while playing Elden Ring (400+ hours on release), which also has EAC, haven't encountered many cheater either, and they are a VERY big problem in Soulsborne community

The point is, EAC seems one of the best anti-cheat options available. Definitely better than Battle Eye

[near saddle]

Are you referring to people who only use dedicated cheats like aimbots and ESP? It certainly sounds like it if you've only encountered as few as you claim.

You seem to be ignoring all the sad dudes who use things like Nvidia profile inspector which is 100% cheating. There's no way you can say only a handful of people are using that. There's videos out there of people bragging about abusing it.

[vague island]

It's first time I hear about this thing. What does Nvidia profile inspector do?

[near saddle]

I tried to reply with a YouTube link but discord won't let me post it.

[vague island]

give me a name of the vid or send dm

[near saddle]

Will do

[humble quartz]

Check out Huuge on youtube, he catched over 400 certfied cheaters on while SPECTATING them on twich in live and saved everyone of them in an excel (name, steam name and so on). As he says, thinking someone is (not) cheating or spectating them and seeing it are 2 different things. There are way more cheaters than u think

[dusky tapir]

have you watched the video yourself?
Feels like you've missed the nuance and skipped straight to "400 cheaters"

[humble quartz]

I’ve watched it yesterday, and he sayd that over 270 of them were actually banned. Atleast thats what i understood with my not so perfect english

[radiant river]

Majority of that is just Asia servers, with most people who complain here not playing on those servers

Way more people will agree that there's a cheater problem on Asia server than that there's a cheating problem on every server

[frail sail]

I'm from Asia, but Asia server is red 231 latency, I wish crytek fix this issue soon

[queen jungle]

I think a zombie horde outside the lair would be a good idea to prevent people from camping there.

[vague island]

and what about the campers inside? :)

[rotund obsidian]

I feel like a zombie horde outside would just make it a pain to siege since they'd just stay outside and be a nuisance to attackers. If anything, it would promote MORE camping since escaping would be harder

[vital fractal]

A zombie horde when called sounds pretty cool- just let a set amount be set to aggro inside the lair and the rest be natural aggro

Kinda like how in trials the zombies just know where you are

[vague island]

Zombie horde on banish sounds good, especially when someone attacking may have Shadow trait

But I would do it a possible event, not guaranteed

[hot vigil]

Wouldn't it just move camping... further away?

[queen jungle]

I just think we need a mechanic to encourage people to actually try and take a compound instead of sitting outside waiting for the bouny team to run into their scopes

[hot vigil]

But well, my logic is just: If the compound becomes an AI fiesta, then you just gonna sit the compound over and wait for the bounty team to move

[vital fractal]

Tbf if you sit in the wrong compound then it’s basically a free run to the extract though- so, not a free sit and wait lol

[hot vigil]

Dunno, except for back door extracts you can always keep yourself outside of Darkside range and intercept

[vital fractal]

As for encouraging taking bounties- there is already a mechanic in place

The bounty, it is called Hunt: SHOWDOWN already-

We have a time limit, if you want the bounty that badly- you can sit and wait or make a move where you just gotta take initiative

Nothing wrong with two teams playing to their strength

[vital fractal]

If the team uses up all their DS without leaving the compound that’s on them

[hot vigil]

Yeah, but my point still stands.

You can easily just wait outside the compound range

[queen jungle]

Oh I never take the bounty when playing the way I want to. Kill the boss, banish, get the heck out of that swamp.

[vital fractal]

And they can shoot back lmao

If they have shotguns well that’s on them

Uppercut exists, upper mat- etc etc

[hot vigil]

That is less the point. The point is that the horde thing is not gonna encourage people to push in.
Rather to stay away and wait.

[vital fractal]

I mean I agreed because I thought it was a cool thing, I want ai to be a bigger aspect of the game

[hot vigil]

Sure, but I still think it is important to acknowledge it ain't gonna make people camp less

Which is was proposed to do

[vital fractal]

Fair

Also just match made with a new player with a flashbang

Oh boy are they in for a treat when it’s shown to be useless

[vital fractal]

Damn, they actually made good use of it

Good on you little buddy, helped with the Dragonsbreath play

[chilly nova]

Ran into 2 on US east today

[ornate helm]

bleh!

[queen jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/always-nice-to-chat-good-talk-nice-chat-good-chat-nice-to-talk-to-you-gif-17046997

[tiny pivot]

Do people actually play matchmade queues

And do people evne communicate or no

[vital fractal]

Match made queues?

[elfin karma]

helllo guys is there any dedicated official crysis community ?

[tiny pivot]

look at the r/Crysis reddit, there is a Discord link there. this is for Hunt Showdown, and until they release Crysis 4 this will likely be a Hunt exclusive channel

[queen jungle]

Sent you a DM as I'm not too keen on a mute by automod

[tiny pivot]

yeah that was my concern too so I didn't link it

[vital fractal]

Ngl, Dragonsbreath is a pretty bad main Shotgun ammo but it’s really fun

Nothing like hitting someone 4 times with levering Dragonsbreath only to see that if they actually do go down- they are instantly burnt out lol

[unborn sandal]

Yeah but on the other side of the coin you can shoot someone dead on from 8 meters and they shoot you back but because they chose slugs or buckshot they live and you don’t

[tiny pivot]

eh imo thats kind of the gain/loss of custom ammo in general

except for niche things like fmj and spitzer which are generally better by most purposes

but, imo for example, most custom ammo types losing penetration ALONE is a huge disadvantage

i play DB at a distance and just fuck around, trying to hit a shot or two and burn off a bar before i go for th ekill

but i also have been loving the rival DB

[jagged crane]

Can we have an emergency fix for people abusing the MMR system to lower their MMR by intentionally dying by necroing themselves over and over again as a solo and also going into Soul Survivor to get their stars down. There are people that should be in 6 star lobbies in 3 star lobbies abusing these two exploits.

[vague island]

I see a lot of discussion around the current MMR system (4-5 stars myself, just to clear this out), and I just wanted to know, wether people are aware or not why the MMR system works this way

Because it is very easy (from technical point of view) to make matchmaking strict-MMR, but it is most likely done opposite way to avoid long queues and empty servers

MMR abuse is just a side of this, and I agree that MMR lowering in Quickplay must be fixed

I, myself, play on Russian servers mostly, and as the usual time I play they are often empty and MM takes a while

[vague island]

So making MMR strict is a bad idea. Fixing the abuse is not, though. And by the way, the higher enemy's skill, the faster you learn how to play better

[rigid heath]

Dear Crytek/Devs, please give us an in game friends list. I have a group of 6 friends who love hunt. 3 of us xbox and the other 3 ps5. We would love an easier invite system for crossplay console. An in fame friends list would fix this issue so we can add each other on hunt. Thank you if you read this.

[quaint cloak]

in game friends list would be cool 👍

[viscid rune]

#game-ideas is prob a better place to propose it

[signal mural]

@analog willow The levering tilt is realistic & it also is a great indicator that you have levering as a trait without having to tab to map.

[analog willow]

If they weapon only tilted while utilizing the levering perk, and remained in standard position not actively firing, I'd enjoy that. But aesthetically, I don't like the look of the tilt hard-locked in for the rest of the time in the Bayou. Perhaps a way to toggle the position? This way each player could decide their own position for it?

[rotund obsidian]

I'm pretty sure levering is visible in thirdperson, and it's a visible tell that someone has the trait. I know this is the case for fanning, and it's a useful thing to be able to see.

It'd be kinda weird if you could hold it in the normal position and still instantly transition into fully levering the gun, cause it's held like that for a reason

[thorny spindle]

You can hold “Q” to toggle the position or try using hunter mode

[rotund obsidian]

I mean, lowering the weapon is an option but I think they just meant while in the hipfire position in general

[thorny spindle]

Right but if you’re only in hipfire when you’re ready to fire, then

[rotund obsidian]

I wish the inputs were a bit more polished. The 'lower weapon' binding in gunslinger specifically is beyond janky.

the amount of times i hold Q to lower my weapon and it does absolutely nothing, then 5 seconds later i release Q and it quickswaps to my other gun

Also when i time it just right after ADSing and it tries to re-arrange my guns in their slots instead of just lowering the damn thing

But then there's hunter mode which is also weird sometimes. The fact that it doesn't let you hold m1 to stop your gun from cycling then start a heavy melee? really annoying for the control scheme that's supposed to be better for meleeing

[analog willow]

Soldiers hold their guns in all kinds of positions depending on the situation. Most of the time, relaxed

[vital drum]

@prisma sundial The video violates rule 4 of our server. We do not allow any accusations with names revealed. I understand that this can be frustrating, but this is done to prevent witch-hunts and any loopholes that can appear if we start making exceptions. The reason why it's blocked is because we do not want to issue individual warnings over it. Many users have been posting the video simply out of concern and they may not be aware of the rule or realize that this video violates it, so simply blocking it prevents issuing a bunch of unnecessary warnings.

[prisma sundial]

Makes sence. Maybe putting what you just wrote in the warning would be great if technically possible. Thanks for the clarification.

[vital drum]

It is possible, but we would need a separate automod filter for the custom text to be visible to users without issuing actual warnings. I'll check if we have space for another filter when I have time.

[somber marsh]

@astral pivot regarding your feedback in #feedback , although i do like that idea but I play from India and thats the best ping i get. Asia suddenly goes up to 250 ping as compared to 100. So we have to play in Europe many times during the event. I hope you understand

[somber marsh]

I agree with that Fhen ! there should definitely be a cap of ping

[hot vigil]

There is

It is just 225ms lol

[somber marsh]

they should definitely do something to prevent server hopping at that ping

[somber marsh]

is it 225 ? i thought you don't get disconnected at 225

you dont even get dc'd at 300

[hot vigil]

To my knowledge you'll never get kicked from high ping during a match bc lol Hunt servers, but you cannot connect to server if your initial ping exceed the 225ms """""limit""""""

[unborn smelt]

225ms is the threshold at which the region selection blocks you from choosing a server with higher ping, that's not connected to disconnecting due to ping.

not sure what the threshold for being disconnected due to ping is

But the server will stop validating any information that is older than 800ms by the time it reaches the server, so there is somewhat of an upper limit, altho there might be a more specific one i don't know the specifics of

[somber marsh]

shouldn't it stop at 400 ms at best?

[unborn smelt]

I don't know why the threshold was set at this particular limit, my best guess would be potential issue due to network jitter if there's a specific reason

afterall there is regions where the closest server is up to 200ms far away, and then there's potential issues with jitter on top of that already high latency

[somber marsh]

hmm i see

Also I have been having issues with ping to Asia from India. Is there someone i can speak to about this to resolve this issue?

[unborn smelt]

sometimes there's issues with certain ISP's, or maybe Customer support can help you

[wispy talon]

Is there some sort of sight misalignment with contraband weapons? Or some other feature that causes bullet misalignment from where you're aiming. My crosshair is on head when shooting, but you can see the bullet hit the tree on the right. Or is this just a connection issue?

[crystal plume]

The slowmo and length of the clip makes it hard to draw any conclusions

[wispy talon]

Should I do a pause frame?

[crystal plume]

Just a normal speed clip that doesn't end so abruptly

[queen jungle]

@river skiff A hidden Steam profile does not prevent you from reporting them in any way.

[plucky creek]

@queen jungle I think he means that previously it was possible to open a steam profile, record a video from the game and send it directly to the developers on the game's website. There's even a special section for this where a support bot requests the player's ID. And with hidden profiles, we can't find out this very ID, only the nickname. But cheaters can often change nicknames, and Chinese players and others who use symbols, their names are simply not visible.

[wispy talon]

I just need to know if I should get a new ethernet card. I think I'm having issues with my new motherboard.

The last part has a freeze frame directly before shooting

[crystal plume]

You don't need either when reporting someone, all they need is your SteamID, the time it happened, time zone and region to find the person in question

So the point still stands, hidden profile/stats doesn't prevent anything nor does it protect cheaters

[crystal plume]

Probably just missed because they were running at the time of the shot perpendicular to you, would have hit with a tiny bit of lead or a with a gun that has better muzzle velocity

[plucky creek]

@crystal plume"Please enter the Steam ID or the link to the Steam profile of the player you want to report. In the case of reports on consoles, specify their nickname PSN / gamertag Xbox. If you are making a report on several players, specify all their IDs/nicknames separated by commas, or specify the rest of the players in your next message below."
I received this message the last time I reported a player on the Huns Showdown website. But it was a long time ago, I went on a business trip for a year, perhaps something has changed

[wispy talon]

About how far do you think that distance is from me to the player?

I'm struggling to determine distance

[crystal plume]

You can leave it empty and provide the details I mentioned earlier at the end of the ticket

Or just put a dash in the field since I think it can't be fully empty

[crystal plume]

Around 25m I'd say

[plucky creek]

Oh, well, I didn't know it was possible like that. Not that I'm one of those who thinks that a hidden profile helps cheaters.

I'm also surprised that that feedback wasn't about MMR

[wispy talon]

Okay, thanks. I'm also getting lots of packet loss, maybe around the evenings. Is this typical for Hunt servers, or do you still think this is on my side?

[crystal plume]

I personally don't have any and can't remember my friends having issues either

[plucky creek]

I don't have packet loss on RU/EU, if you're interested

[wispy talon]

Just US West (and East)

It's like 30% of the time. I'm thinking that something is wrong with my motherboard ethernet port, so I'm testing a bunch of games to see how much packet loss I get. I get no packet loss when pinging various DNS's, but get a ton in most games for some reason.

[plucky creek]

I had ping spikes when I was playing Wi-Fi on my laptop, are you playing on cable?.
Ah i see

[wispy talon]

Yes. It's to the point where I can't move for a few seconds multiple points within any match (any other games too). This is a new issue with a new motherboard I just picked up.

[plucky creek]

In this case, I think it's worth checking your packet loss on special sites, then check your Internet connection with your provider, if the problem remains, should you take the motherboard to the service?

Because for a week, my friends and I didn't have any problems with packages on the servers. But we play EU Ru and sometimes AS

[wispy talon]

Okay, thanks for your inputs. I've tried various tests, and I don't get packet loss with any online tests/cmd prompt server pings. I'm going to try reinstalling drivers one last time then I will pick up a new PCIe card for ethernet I guess.

[jagged wagon]

@plucky creek fanning maybe?

[plucky creek]

Nope. I just died instantly after hearing one shot, at first I thought "oh, in the head again" But no! Unfortunately, I had instant replay disabled.

Well, now I'm going to think it was Fanning. It's just that the player was too good with it, and didn't spend any more shots, so I didn't hear them.

[sterile beacon]

I really hope crytek returns the combat axe, katana, and railroad hammer to 2 slot weapons by the end of this event because it really has just made everyone to scared to push and everyone that runs a katana just sits in a corner waiting for someone to walk in front of them so they can press attack and win

[plucky creek]

If someone wants to sit in a corner and press one button to win the game, there is still a huge selection of shotguns. Which are better at everything than melee weapons. On my 5 stars, I meet katana once every 30 games, probably. And it's still easier to deal with them than with shotguns.

IMO melee weapons always have been a"meme" choice

[sterile beacon]

They can still do that but make them sacrifice something for it, I understand that for most higher skill lobbies melee isn’t a huge deal but in the majority of cases it just comes down to people sitting in corners with katanas or other melee because the majority of players don’t have the game sense to always know where to look or what to watch out for

There’s no reason you should be able to just run a one shot melee weapon in one slot and still without having to atleast run a perk slot to fit it still be able to maintain 100% of your range capabilities

That or atleast nerf the katana a bit because the range it has for most of it’s attacks that can 1 tap you anywhere on your body are a bit outrageous

[crystal plume]

It's different between PC and console

On PC it's mostly a meme and all melee weapons in the end are just melee weapons so their balance don't really matter much

[plucky creek]

I didn't notice that it was about the console. Then yes, my regrets to those who try to shoot on the gamepad

[vital fractal]

Katana is 100% 2 slot material but honestly the Axe and Hammer? Those can stay 1 slot

Like the hammer is genuinely the worst melee weapon in the game hands down- even machete is a better option

[crystal plume]

@plucky creek Regarding your feedback post, weren't they just fanning?

[quaint cloak]

@hoary widget Besides having a cool trailer, Carter shouldn't even be a Legendary ...he's busy doing shows, touring with the safety of his exhibition troupe... do you think he or Annie Oakley want to deal with any of this bayou shit??

[plucky creek]

As I said, I didn't hear more than one shot after death. If I shoot from a fanning, I never make exactly two hits and then stop, it's at least 3-4 shots, 2 of which are in nothing. Also, what is the probability of getting 2 consecutive hits from a fanning from 13 meters, and at the same time the opponent made only 2 shots

[crystal plume]

Well to me it doesn't seem unlikely

Stuff happens

[plucky creek]

Yeah, now I'm sticking to the fact that it was Fanning, too...probably

[latent geyser]

@crimson thicket ever heard of "explosive bolts" ?

[crimson thicket]

Those deal like 3 times the amount of area damage, or at the very least it feels that way, I want the Martini-Henry Launcher to reward being able to actually impact someone, not shooting the ground 2 meters off target and still deal 100 or more damage

[rotund obsidian]

While I appreciate the sentiment of trying to not make it as aoe-focused as explosive crossbow, the martini already has explosive rounds. I'm not sure I understand the real motivation behind it.

and yeah, explosive crossbow deals up to 124 area damage with a pretty big aoe

[white plover]

I believe it's 125 no? can instakill those who have been downed once already and are missing a small bar

[rotund obsidian]

No, you can definitely tank it missing a bar as long as it's not a direct hit

Without bulwark, a direct hit will kill at any range though since the direct impact has zero damage dropoff with range, and obviously the explosive will deal full damage on a direct hit

[white plover]

You are correct just tested it, always thought it was 125 for some reason. Maybe they just direct impact me or I've been missing 1 health when I got hit

[vital fractal]

Wait

Does explosive bolt only kill on direct hit

And does bulwark protect from a direct hit?

[hazy quartz]

yes to both questions, thats how it works!

[vital fractal]

Nice

[rotund obsidian]

bulwark CAN save you from a direct hit, but it depends on where it hits you i believe

[grizzled dagger]

selling my health chunks for levering rn 💸

[rotund obsidian]

@copper grail #game-ideas message Do you mean the DLC bundles? Those go on sale pretty hard and they're kind of a really crazy deal (compared to bloodbond skins) because they're bundled. If they were sold individually, you'd still be paying like $8-10 a skin because that's the normal bloodbond price of new skins lol

[copper grail]

Just individual weapon skins. There’d be like, a cool katana skin but I'd have to buy a bunch of other shit I don't want. Like "the hunter Bevan the Brave". I don’t want him or the 3 wallpapers or whatever, just the weapon skin

[rotund obsidian]

I mean, there are plenty of skins available for blood bonds in the shop, but the pricing on those is typically significantly higher than $2-3 per skin.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love $2-3 weapon skins but it's unlikely to happen and the current pricing of the DLCs is comparatively pretty decent, even if you're only buying it for one skin. I'd rather pay ~$4-5 sale price (or even less) for the bundle than pay 800+ blood bonds for a single weapon skin

[copper grail]

Yeah that's why I suggested it.

[tiny pivot]

dlc goes on sale for crazy cheap so if you’re looking for a specific skin i’d just wait for one of those

the balancing on bb skin prices is crazy anyway but that’s a conversation nobody wants to have

even someone like me who doesn’t mind spending money on it some skins are just ridiculous

#game-ideas message

love this idea also the banishment. the idea of fighting in open air and getting rewarded by the banishment actually giving you usable cover is interesting as fuck and way better than rotjaw basically expecting you to just stand in a boathouse or in reeds.

[wanton imp]

@latent geyser The reason the lawful pact has its bar recovery ability is to offset the health lost from reanimating dead teammates.

The sealed cache already has a way to recover bars so all pacts have a way to restore bars.

now that doesn't mean the lawful pact isn't the best pact. It is but you should consider the sealed cache medkit which can be used by anyone

[latent geyser]

The Lawful pact is just infinitely more consistent at regen hp bar. If you're missing one while you're on the edge of the map, you'd most likely won't be going to the center.

I'll be honest the red skull ability never came in handy to me, so idc about that part (big imo). All I see is that if I get downed once and don't have the pact, it's either risking going to a place where people will get to fight more or going for a boss.

[unborn dagger]

@latent geyser "Death pact is near useless" No tf it aint lol having the ability to revive players quickly is huge in gunfights. Also being able to know if a player is down in is very helpful.

[latent geyser]

Spotting corpses is honestly the least interest trait you can get during this event. I actually don't think it ever was that good. And the addition of the regen is niche af, at some point it won't even work.

[unborn dagger]

In a game where it's about gaining info on the enemy that is the most interesting one out of the three.

[upbeat axle]

Moment of silence for the shotbolt, they really massacred that thing. Only hitmarkers nowadays, no solid kills.

[hot vigil]

Nothing have been changed about shotbolt.

[upbeat axle]

well something changed, it cant be me, thats now how this works, im flawless obviously.This is not cope 💯

[upbeat axle]

all sarcasm aside, ive just been getting weird tags with it lately i guess. someone mentioned they reduced spread on it too but idk cant find it after checking.

[frozen crater]

?

the spread the buckshot has changed after it hits a pennable surface?

[rotund obsidian]

I would figure shotbolt kills may be affected by server performance, like maybe tickrate or something? the buckshot seems to come out AFTER the hit, so if the tick rate is really bad, it might come out too late to fully hit on a moving target?

That's just a guess though. I don't think it's been changed lately outright, though.

[vital fractal]

Shotbolt is buggy as hell

Sometimes you can even register getting hit by the bolt (like 20-40 damage) before the bolt even goes off and then it either kills you or just wounds you a little bit more

It’s a great ammo type but man it’s buggy

In range and on paper a hit with shotbolt direct should always kill but that’s not the case

[rotund obsidian]

Saw a clip a while back of a close range headshot that direct impacted but none of the buckshot hit so it didn't kill

[hoary widget]

its not that deep man

[light prawn]

looting hunters should always give +1 meds and +1 consumable!

[frozen crater]

I just want looting hunters/resupply boxes to stop giving out chaos bombs

it feels like an absolute slap in the face whenever I get one after a drawn out fight and need to resupply for the next one

[light prawn]

yea and chaos bombs just suck, decoy blanks would be even better lol

[safe mountain]

people who downvote this #game-ideas message

why??

[weary fox]

Cuz they (me included) like running stupid shit like Nitro bleed + Dumdum 2x and 4 frag bombs over and over

[tiny pivot]

nah that’s real make people actually play normal load outs

every other game like this has economy resets

if you are good and conservative enough you can make that amount of money back relatively easily and it would probably spin the meta at higher stars at least slightly

[weary fox]

I run uppercut/Trueshot + [[INSERT GENERIC SHOTGUN HERE]] for like 70% of my matches. If I don't I run something like Drilling or some other medium ammo rifle

[tiny pivot]

i mean that’s valid, maybe it’s different perspective but i’m one of the ppl who thinks that the art of budget load outs has been kinda lost

new players have no reason to use them when you get meta guns off the rip and old players have no reason to use them because they have 400k hd in the bank and refuse to prestige because if they can’t play mosin dolch every match then it might as well be joever

i’m inherently biased though because i’m the type of person that thinks the meta of the same 4 guns is boring as hell and i opt to intentionally use other guns and play styles in order to feel better about myself :^) so i’m all for anything to make any of those other guns more viable or common

[weary fox]

Wait that's biased? I thought it was kinda established in the community how boring and stale the meta can get. I guess it's a matter of perspective though I like your view on things.

[tiny pivot]

well, in definition, it is biased. community sentiment, that is different. every time i have talked about my thoughts on the weapon variety the small amount of interactions i’ve had were to the tune of “oh who cares” but if the greater community wants more variety then i’m all for it.

like one of my favorite loadouts is romero hc and nagant p or anything with the hunting bow

i like making money by playing really crummy loadouts and not necessarily spending that money on anything crazy

like, i wish there was a medium between “unlocking every gun is kinda annoying” and “every gun is available, lv1 go run ur dolch mosin”

something to incentivize players to use less costly loadouts

people have said before the idea of a low cost queue and tbh i’d love that

[vital fractal]

Whoever decided centennial should get dum dum needs a stern talking to