feedback-discussion

[chrome plover]

soon we're shooting balloons out of our guns, just you wait

[terse gull]

Don't worry you can do that irl

It's pretty cheap

[queen jungle]

I mean, there are references to demons but they don't go full out on biblical stuff or satanic stuff because it can be offensive to religious individuals.

[burnt mulch]

idk if it's offensive it's just kind of cliche and boring.

[queen jungle]

Crytek's got that message in the start of the game like Ubisoft right? Our team is associated to various religions and diversity, etc.

[chrome plover]

we got churches and nuns, and priests though. its kinda hard to do this thematically without having the midwest themes through and through

[queen jungle]

I mean, Mary the Nun kills

We don't know what school of church she goes to. It may very well be a cult of sorts.

Definitely not with the Roman Catholic branch associated with the Pope.

[terse gull]

She's basically a weird type of saint let's say

[chrome plover]

ngl, when i see "righteous fury" i can't help but think of tarantinos pulp fiction

(whos bible quoting anyway)

[tribal wyvern]

@limpid umbra
What is the issue with that screenshot?
The matchmaking seems pretty fine tbh.

6star + 4star vs 6star & 5star .
Whats the issue? Or that the server is empty? You post this at 1am EU time, where do you play?

[queen jungle]

The issue is there isn't enough players at 6 star and there were complaints.

So five star and four stars fill the gap.

[tribal wyvern]

And even saw it was him 6star + 4star that fought 2 5 stars

Well depends wher he plays

[chrome plover]

thats not really imba though...

[tribal wyvern]

Ye but where does he play? It's almost 2am in EU time.

So if he plays in EU im not even surprised

[bitter quartz]

Im just disappointed the dark tribute animation change was probably only for event aesthetic and won't be a permanent stay

[tribal wyvern]

At that hour it's like 9k players accross the entire game playing.
Most of them not inEU

[terse gull]

Anyway, in a game where we see disfigured and ruined bodies of horses and dogs and kill or burn or poison horses, dogs, crows just to conceal ourselves i really don't see how an optional thing such as cutting the hand which is called "dark tribute offering" can affect someone if all those does not, and i don't see the game being "child friendly" with all those neither did i buy it for such an atmosphere or i would go start playing "Fowtnite" or something

[queen jungle]

It could just be a temporary event scene. We'll see.

[bitter quartz]

I just want a cooler animation

[terse gull]

Hopefully

[tribal wyvern]

I mean we don't get to tell what affects people.
Could be the act of cutting themselves, hurting oneself.

Should just have an option to insta skip the animation, problem solved.

[burnt mulch]

😐 maybe they just didn't like it.

[queen jungle]

Honestly, I think a cooler scene would be shooting up more demonic blood with vials. But I fear those who do not play the game may associate it with drug use.

[terse gull]

I can agree with the optional skip animation, it would be even better for them if it's a permanent option in the settings or in the dark tribute page

[hot vigil]

Well, more people have experienced self harm and a bit more common than zombies and bodyhorror.

[queen jungle]

They could have removed the cutting animation and just showed a hand squeezing out blood into a cup or something

[hot vigil]

Media can have a lot of elements that you are okay with. But one thing might invoke a traumatic experience. Again, a person might like grimey crime stories, but not feeling okay with sexual abused due to past experience and trauma.

[terse gull]

I don't know how to answer to that, i can say yes, you're right because i'm not a person that self harms and for several reasons i think self harming does more than just self harming a person

[terse gull]

The latter is something i have a problem with yes

[tribal wyvern]

Honestly thats even worse than the cutting

[queen jungle]

Self harm brings a sense of relief to the person experiencing psychological distress.

Whatever "mind pain" they're going through feels like it goes away when they cut.

[bitter quartz]

I'd rather have no animation over what we currently have in my opinion

[terse gull]

I learned from one of my exes that it's more of an escape from their thoughts or something, maybe there are different cases idk

[burnt mulch]

🗿

[queen jungle]

I feel that it's more distressing for the external viewer, those watching the person practice self harm.

[hot vigil]

So we can ask ourselves: "Is Hunt more or less of a game if we remove the animation of self-harm?" and ofc removing it will take something out of Hunt. But for me, it is sucha minimal loss if it means some more can play Hunt. Especially bc it not even affecting the core gameplay of Hunt.

[terse gull]

I always felt like it's just my character doing it, basically a soulless hollow shell that i give a soul by playing it

[terse gull]

It's all true however i was more concerned about such things just keep happening, i don't mind if the game is gonna stay like this, i mean except the dark tribute honestly, it's basically tossing a coin into a wish well in a way

[hot vigil]

There is ofc always concerns of how things can get pushed more and more in X/Y/Z direction. But that is sadly speculations at best, so far, even with my many gripes of changes to Hunt, there haven't been done any prior actions to downplay/scale the horror of Hunt.

[terse gull]

The idea behind cutting the hand as an offering is i think basically "we earned stuff today so let's give an offering to keep earning" or something like that, like you know, those who threw people to fire in the old days and god knows it probably happens today in some parts of the world, it wouldn't be a lie if i said that's what i was expecting when i saw the name dark tribute at first

[terse gull]

Yes however i have seen it done in some games, it may not change much of a thing for some players but it also changes things for some other players

[hot vigil]

I agree, but for some, who have voiced it here before, it invokes some dark times in their lives. No matter how logical and reasonable the use of said animation is.

[terse gull]

And i don't know if they're still doing the same thing just restricting stuff on those games because i stopped playing them, either because of them getting boring or gaining too much of a toxic players

[hot vigil]

Then Hunt might not be the right pick for you :V There sure is some angry bois out there in the bayou

[terse gull]

I know don't worry, i have met a lot of them but that doesn't holds me back from enjoying the game, it's not the same as a team game where there's players who blame their mistakes on you

[queen jungle]

I've seen hardcore Hunt Showdown fans do bloodbond tattoos which is great. But when their fans start cutting their palms...

[terse gull]

Worst scenario is i just mute the voice chat and don't pay attention to the chat when someone like that is in my team but that never happened and i hope it doesn't

[queen jungle]

Good publicity and then bad publicity, it can turn.

Also, we gamers don't shine that bright.

[bitter quartz]

Maybe an analogy that might make sense is like an alcoholic that's been sober feeling urges from seeing people drinking

[queen jungle]

You got that right knowbody.

You nailed the issue on hand.

[terse gull]

The similarity of the context is true yes

[queen jungle]

You know it doesn't have to be a blood sacrifice in imagery but a soul sacrifice. Instead of cutting they could have squeezed something that looks like a glowing bounty (popping in and out of view), dripping blue fluid that appears and disappears.

It would essentially be sacrificing your soul. That's what I think the bounties are. The soul of beings.

So each time you do the dark tribute, your "soul" keeps getting smaller and smaller.

By the end of it, you have nearly nothing.

Maybe you damned yourself at that point and cannot exist in the "afterlife" or "rebirth" (if you believe in reincarnation).

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Centennial Silenced, i have no idea if it would be a good idea but i always loved that weapon, it made me look at other Winfield M1873 variants with disgust because of how versatile that weapon is, it excels at nothing but it's okay at everything it does```

[terse gull]

Oh rip

[terse gull]

I have no idea how that would work compared to a physical sacrifice and i can't say anything about it

[queen jungle]

A more powerful imagery of the sacrifice is if they put themselves in dark sight and reaches into their chest. To pull out parts of their soul.

[little carbon]

I am pretty sure they chose the blood sacrifice because it's easy to understand what's happening and it's rooted into actual old occult practices (the idea of paying your own blood, often associated as your life/lifeforce for some kind of gain)
Having something like a soul sacrifice might be harder to read for people, because there is less of a common conception of how a soul should look than about something as simple as a blood sacrifice.

[wintry jackal]

is there any way to report players outside of the game?
https://huntshowdown.kayako.com this website does not work at all for me

[little carbon]

!report

[marsh garden]

If you would like to report a player, you can do so on the Team Details tab on your Match Summary screen. It is also accessible in the Last Match tab at any time. If you have additional proof you would like to provide, you can find out how to reach out to official support here: #customer-support

[wintry jackal]

thx

[signal mural]

I think the Mr. Chary rewards were probably changed because Mr. Chary was a primary instigator in the Trilogy of the Moon events and it is leading up to the end of his storyline. I think Hunters are gathering bullets to imbune with prayers/magic (whatever) to try and kill Mr. Chary (who always seemed like a demonologist or occultist). I think the change thematically fits the impending event.

Okay. Well maybe it was about cross-console party invites.... but good to know for trying to help others then. Thanks.

[upbeat axle]

Are the summons gone for good? Didnt see anything about it in the patch notes, or have they moved in the menu?

[signal mural]

#general-announcements

[royal horizon]

@prime orchid That would be a very good addition, just wondering , if the Bayonnet version is for the full-size terminus, why not get a Terminus Handcannon Mace ?

[jagged wagon]

Or do the full size terminus as a trauma variant, like the new centennial version

[prime orchid]

That would be a great addition too.

[royal horizon]

true, it would give some utility to the Terminus

[royal horizon]

I'd love a melee Terminus variant, it needs some love

[bitter quartz]

That was PlayStations stance for a bit but they've allowed developers to turn on cross-play for the past 3 or 4 years now, it would be strange if cross party invites weren't allowed since so many games have this as a baseline feature for crossplay.

[signal mural]

I don't know, I thought that's what some dude was on about in the HuntGeneral tab. I play on PC so I don't know the state-of-the-game on console. I was just trying to help out, sorry if I was misinformed or interpreting it wrong.

[coral nymph]

Yeah, you see, the funny thing is, this used to work almost perfectly. Then maybe like 4 months ago or so, placing traps got "fixed," which made it not work in like 80% of the places they could be placed before. Yet another thing that just got changed for the worse for absolutely no conceivable, sane reason, and also that no one asked for.

I do wonder lately if the people who push for these changes and "fixes" actually just have nothing productive to do in the game and just do literally anything to look busy in order to keep the job. That is the only sane explanation I have come up with.

[karmic ivy]

You don't have a very good imagination then.

[coral nymph]

Enlighten me then, please. Why can I not place traps on pretty much perfectly flat surfaces with no objects on them, or almost anywhere near barrels and various other objects? It worked just fine before the so-called fix.

Also not to mention there is a way to bypass this to some extent; you can start placing further away from whatever seems to be blocking the trap, and slide over the placement indicator closer before you finish the placement. Goes to show the mechanic is very clearly flawed and scuffy.

[karmic ivy]

Are you a game designer?

[coral nymph]

I am not. Was there a point to that question, or were you just making conversation?

[karmic ivy]

I am not either, yet I can imagine reasons for these things you complain about because I have helped bug test for game designers.

You will just have to take my word for it, because I don't feel like explaining it to you. There are ways it can happen, and you don't have to invoke devs "doing literally anything to look busy" ROFL

[coral nymph]

Well that´s cool, but the thing is, I have been playing for 3 years now and there were no issues with placing traps that I am aware of that were fixed, yet it restricted the placement options tremendously without any apparent logic to it, or reason for it. Clearly a downgrade.

[karmic ivy]

Clearly you don't know how game development goes. you might be surprised, how problems arise in that world.

[coral nymph]

And sorry, but changing the iconic and thematic "you live to fight another day" into "solid victory/major victory" like this is Fortnite or something is literally just devs "doing literally anything to look busy". Extremely pointless and out-of-touch change I have seen like 100 people criticise and literally not 1 person be happy about.

[karmic ivy]

You have a lot to learn.

[coral nymph]

You too, clearly, based on the quality and variety of your responses and arguments.

[dark gust]

everything's fine with new update except for
1 - bring back mr chary, the new dark tribute is really dull and boring
2 - this is more like a question i'd like to ask: why make text smaller? trying to give people with glasses a hard time reading?

[limpid umbra]

Mr chary is gone for lore purposes

Hes been a very bad bad boy

[dim heron]

@tribal wyvern @torn jacinth

It's a bug, not intentional.

[torn jacinth]

thanks for the info;

[little carbon]

While his methods are most certainly morally questionable, his goal seems to be to fight the sculptor. And we still don't know whether the moon/Kevin are actually good guys, considering we know next to nothing about that entity besides Kevin believing her to be good.

Really hope the story doesn't turn out to be the classic good guy chosen one versus evil occult scientist and that there is some greyness to it.

@limpid umbra i don't know what the issue with your screenshot is supposed to be. All teams are around 4.5-5 team mmr. Seems quite balanced to me

[limpid umbra]

4 people in the round

Had to tank my MMR to actually get people in the lobby

Round before that was only 2 other people in the whole entire match

[little carbon]

What region if I may ask

[worthy knoll]

@prime orchid watch both those shotguns HRT Bajonets and worse spread because for eine reason you need to shorten the Barrel to affix a Bajonett (cries in Spectre)

[prime orchid]

I'm sorry but I can't understand what you are saying.

[vocal ember]

<@&350201699832561666> You're welcome, now either balance or remove the aimpunch thing, I wrote this again

[frosty garnet]

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[iron trench]

@upbeat slate The 1965 Spencer is really a cool gun, but i really don't know how devs would make the reloading animation.

[worthy knoll]

the Spectre Bajonet is 50% more expensive, and has a medium barrel instead of along one. But there is not logical reason that a barrel should be shortened for affixing a bajonet. Peope say "balance" but the Mosin Bajonet only cost 50 Dollars more so its more or less free.

I am saying that if those guns are every implemented they would get a shorter barrel most likely. Which is stupid.

[still basin]

Really wouldn't say thats "classic" lmao. Also the characters themselves are pretty unique. Consider that Kevin has snakes living inside his body as one point towards that.

[torn sage]

just curious if this event will be completable without the battle pass. i barley finished the last event with the battle pass boost and i had to buy the extra marks. when i finished i was top 10% leaving me to believe that over 80% didn't even get to finish the even

[prime orchid]

From what I'm seeing the Slate has a 20in barrel already the original 1897 trench gun had the same length , so there would be no reason for it to loose range, as for the 1887 I have no idea if they would shorten the barrel for the variation. I hope they get implemented but like they say everything has a trade off.

[worthy knoll]

I See No reason for a shorter Barrel too. But I guess it would Happen. Which I think is entirely unnecessay. That was my Point.

And lets be honest, the Mosin has No downsides With its Bajonet. While the Spectre has. Its Main function as a gun is degraded With a Medium instead of a Long Barrel.

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[radiant river]

@raven pebble you're lying

[lean estuary]

Lmao at “please add cannibalism” (sorry)

[blissful magnet]

Before wanting to fill the game with microtransactions, at least improve the server. To get back to the match takes forever and we always die because of these ridiculous falls. Help us to help you.

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[lean estuary]

@fair rover someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I swear that arm shots will count as a body shot if the body is behind the arm (arm is located in between the shooter and the target torso on a straight path)

I think the logic is the bullet will penetrate the arm and the hit the torso, so the higher damage value (torso) will be used, but not combined with the arm damage

[celest solstice]

@lean estuary this is correct. You cannot block body or head with limbs anymore. This has been patched a long time ago but I’ve had instances where the limb clearly blocked the body or head so it doesn’t work 100% as intended all the time unfortunately. Big surprise, right lol

[coral nymph]

Well it doesn´t work that way for all projectiles, arrows, bolts, and I would assume all the other 0-pen ammo has no hitbox penetration, either. Not entirely sure about buckshot, but I do believe it does also penetrate hitboxes.

And for the regular rounds, I have never witnessed an instance of "yep, when going frame-by-frame on my recording, this must have 100% hit this-and-that body part and clearly did not deal the appropriate damage because it was blocked".

The main issue here I think is that it is extremely hard to tell if you actually hit a certain body part or not even when you get to go frame-by-frame sometimes, due to you not seeing the bodyparts or their hitboxes properly, the enemy hunter moving even between frames, and your projectile having muzzle velocity. Good luck determining such a thing by just looking at your screen once while playing. Sometimes a hunter turns their head just a couple frames before you shoot, making the shot go underneath their chin and the like, or you flinch a few pixels to the side just before firing.

Funny bit btw, horses can be penetrated with any projectile with penetration all the way through, for example, you can shoot a horse in the ass and headshot it that way with a nagant silencer, whereas all the mobs have no limb penetration and any part you hit first will block any damage to a higher multiplier hitbox behind it, regardless of what ammo you use. Not counting penetrating the hellhounds´ helmets by some ammo types.

[fair rover]

I mean id expect they would but its not seeming like it

[knotty ore]

I don't get it. There is some period of time around every event, or patch when the servers are just awful. Shots that should hit just disappear. Registration is literally variable.

[tranquil lichen]

Seriously, when can we get a friggin' damage report of how much WE did to enemy hunters?!

[half stag]

@upbeat slate that's what I've been saying, but people called me crazy. you can even just make it pretty simple by just saying "tldr, it should work like the terminus". The segmented reload thing would be cool, but Crytek currently doesn't have a system in place for that, for any gun, so its unlikely that'd be implemented. (tho they have said they would like to do it, its just a lot of work)

It also can perhaps even free up two rounds to go into the lebel's reserve ammo, so it doesn't have piss poor ammo pickup rate

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[unborn dagger]

I mean honestly weak vitality shots should just be removed

[little carbon]

The leaderboards are misleading. Remember that everyone that boots up the game during the event was counted in the leaderboard. Which heavily inflates the base amount of people, leading to people being placed higher in the leaderboard than they actually scored on the comparison between people that actually tried to play the event.

They honestly should only count people in the leaderboard that habe been active in the past week and are at least level 1.
I still don't think that everyone completed the event but I think it's more of a 60% completion rate than a 30% which i at least saw often enough being talked about.

[little carbon]

Why? Especially when running doctor and physician there is almost no reason to take the big ones

[torn sage]

what do u mean 60% the leader boards just went off how many points people had. i had just enough points to finsish and i was in the top 10% so no 60% did not finish

[little carbon]

The leaderboards counted everyone. So if you have a player that logged one once during the event and played one match they are counted in the leaderboards.
The statistics are skewed.
You were top 10% in all players, but probably a lot lower in % of active players.

[torn sage]

ahhhh so everyone completed it then

[little carbon]

No, but the completion rate is going to be less bad than a lot of people think

[little carbon]

@granite steppe IP bans just dont work in general. Most people these days do not have a static IP, so it would literally not ban them at all (Most of the times for one day or they can just manually reconnect their router).
And hardware bans tend to hurt innocent people more than than they help against cheaters, since its not that hard to fake a hardware id. And then you just end up with people buying used parts and then being banned when they boot up Hunt for the first time

[little carbon]

@sleek kernel Learning to hear the death sound is part of the skill learning curve of Hunt.
Also that there is no visual indicator serves as a balance point to snipers as it makes it harder to confirm kills from long ranges

[tulip lily]

@queen jungle I rlly dont like the idea of particle effects on guns

Dont think it fits hunt showdowns style

[queen jungle]

I feel that cursed guns fit within hunt showdown's lore.

[tulip lily]

Well yea probably but i am not talking About lore wise

I mean like visually

[queen jungle]

I'm going to keep suggesting a long list of cursed weapons starting today.

Because I feel the guns are cool, but they can be even cooler.

[tulip lily]

Ok well if you're going to do that can u atleast cut the lore part so u arent flooding the suggestions channel

[queen jungle]

I'm leaving the lore because I think it fits.

[tulip lily]

Bruh

[queen jungle]

Without the lore it's just a dumb smoking gun 🤣

[tulip lily]

That is what it is Tho

[queen jungle]

Nah it's cool see

Read the lore 🤣

[tulip lily]

Sir you upvoted your own post to make the ratio look good

[queen jungle]

Dude, even the president votes for himself

[tulip lily]

Do not rofl emoji me

That is literally the stupidest argument i have ever heard

Ok

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[queen jungle]

@graceful grotto I want a Large Blunt Melee but I feel Crytek wants to make your tool slot precious. What else would you fill in there but traps? At some point everyone will carry them if we didn't have to buy dusters, knife, and other gear.

[tulip lily]

mace weapons:

if they were worried about making players have too many tool slots than mace weapons wouldnt exist. Plus you have to sacrifice a medium gun slot just to bring a secondary melee and i think a medium gun is much more valuable than a tool slot. It deifnitely wouldnt be OP for melee players to have an extra trap

[royal horizon]

speaking of mace weapons, a Terminus Handcannon Mace, would be an absolute banger

i'd use it a lot more

[tulip lily]

Dear lord no . . Terminus alreayd busted as hell

[tawny meadow]

I think Terminus is the worse performing shotgun tho

[royal horizon]

it would give it some love

[tawny meadow]

yep

[royal horizon]

a shotgun that is unusable unless you have a 4 points worth trait should get a little something

[tulip lily]

I mean i use it a ton and it feels broken. and whenever I fight it i feel like its busted. It still has very good OHK range and levering make it zooted

Like it has such a great firerate compared to any other shotgun and you really dont lose much

I guess you could say the crown and king is probably objectively better but

THe crown and king is also double the price

[tawny meadow]

Just use a Rival. More reliable, cost less, two shot in the shortest time

[tulip lily]

Rival has less potential in trios tho

Like if they group push the terminus just guaranteed wipes them

[tawny meadow]

If they come out of a door all lined up

[tulip lily]

THey dont even gotta be lined up tho

YOu got 5 shots on full auto

Unless you on controller that should not be an issue

[tawny meadow]

It was figurative speech. Meaning that if they push you in a trio, you'll probably get shot from more than one angle

[tulip lily]

I mean yea

U still cant play like hyper reckless

But it has so little downtime and still has a lot of fire power

[tawny meadow]

meh, i don't found it to be reliable enough

[tulip lily]

Try using it with sparks fmj

Sparks fmj quartermaster terminus handcannon with levering. U hit someone once and then just lever it downrange until a stray bullet kills them

As long as they in the 149 bodyshot range

[tawny meadow]

For that i prefer Sparks quartermaster rival handcannon with flechette

[tulip lily]

does flechette have more pellets ?

i dont remember if terminus have flechette

i thought flechette had less though

[tawny meadow]

It have more range

[tulip lily]

ohh

[tawny meadow]

I don't remember the exact range a flechette pellet can reach, but it's pretty bonkers

[tulip lily]

the only downside to that kit is the weird armshot hitreg in this game

hate that if they're aiming at you its like next to impossible to hit them upper body

[royal horizon]

specter with flechette is a delight

[tulip lily]

im big fan of spectre slugs with iron devastator

[royal horizon]

I don't play slugs on the specter too much

not a fan of the ads view

the ejector interrupts my line of sight

[tulip lily]

yeah sometimes i go with the slate just to avoid the ads problems on the specter

[royal horizon]

yeah slate slugs is good

sad thing about slate is that it doesn't have any skins

[tulip lily]

does c&k have slugs? i dont use it much cuz im only 100hrs so i cant afford it most of the time

[royal horizon]

yes it has them, and its pretty busted

[tulip lily]

wow that is very funny sounding

i have to unlock that

[royal horizon]

but I don't play it near enough either

[tulip lily]

c&k slugs with a scottfield swift would probably be a very fun kit to run

[royal horizon]

I would use a Spitfire with that

[tulip lily]

i meant spitfire

I always mix them up

[royal horizon]

oh

no worries

[tulip lily]

theres prolly a better pistol to run with c&k slugs but i really like the spitfire

[royal horizon]

only thing bad about the spit is the iron sights tbh

I'm not of fan of the groove ads

[tribal wyvern]

Can we have some better logic regarding extraction spawns?
This is kinda silly

[crystal plume]

What would be the alternative? They made it so that at least one extract spawns at least 500m away from the other extracts to avoid all extractions clumping into one corner, and boss location sensitive extraction spawns would be bad as it would eventually lead into people being able to narrow down possible boss locations before any clues

I guess making all extractions spawn at least 500m away from each other would be one option, but imo it's fine to keep it so that a max of 2 can be near eachother for variety and options in certain situations like pushing one of them and a team holding it and being able to swap to the other one

Since the main problem was all extracts being in the same corner which made it extremely easy for a team to hold all of them

[signal mural]

Yeah those triple extraction corners were some BS.

[karmic ivy]

@queen jungle Those players spiting venom that you mention are not really part of our community (its a show). In my opinion what you are describing is the small group of players who think they can manipulate Hunt into something it is not with their venomous hatred and calculated lies. Crytek does not need to worry about them (they are small) and so you don't either.

Hunt is doing great and it is clear that some players never will like the game despite wanting to. It is very different... and some players can't handle that.
The important thing is that players that do like Hunt are finding it, and Hunt is growing. The venom and loosing some players just comes with the territory.

In my opinion crytek communicates well enough. The problem is simply that some players can't handle the realities of the pc gaming world, (anymore... they used to be fine, I guess we went soft). It is not cryteks fault, it is their own at that point. No one forces them to be delicate.

[tribal wyvern]

I think an interesting idea would be to give each player a 2 min timer to extract at the start, each team gets their own extract where they spawn.
Incase teammates DC etc.

Then after 2mins they vanish & next spawns comes when the boss is banished.
And perhaps not having all extracts 1km away would be nice.
A maximum distance of 500m maybe

Or atleast 1 spawn 500m away & the rest can be further.
So extract campers can choose one & then they can choose to contest it or risk running much further

I think it would battle 2 things.

1. Teams that spawn on boss lair doesn't get an instant freebie.
2. People won't avoid a bosslair simply cuz of extract spawns

[crystal plume]

I'm not a huge fan of the idea of entire "structures" disappearing and spawning like that

[tribal wyvern]

It's a horse & a boat, not a house

They're usually mobile

[crystal plume]

Not what I mean

If a person is near the spawnpoint and it suddenly just spawns out of thin air, or if they are inside it when it spawns that would cause issues

Which would lead to making a system that detects if there's someone there first before spawning it

Which could lead into people manipulating extractions spawns in some way

[tribal wyvern]

Well you could have "extraction " areas.
That has some supplies/Debris to hide behind & the horse is outside the map & same with boat.

That way it can still spawn as an extraction if ppl sit on it.

Crytek servers are already shitting themselves as is, so can't prob add this.
But cool would be if the boat or hose came running/driving in to the area.

[crystal plume]

The server argument hardly matters in that context lol

[tribal wyvern]

Well they had to stop zombies from making animations to reduce the stress.

[crystal plume]

I don't see how that is a sign of the servers "shitting themselves", devs generally always aim to optimize their client/server performance either way and removing animations that are not generally visible to players anyways just makes sense

Hell even warzone/DMZ removes player animations after a certain amount of distance

Which is much worse than just AI or when off screen

I don't remember the details of Hunt's change to animations being removed or if it even is a thing, so I can only assume that if it was in the patch notes somewhere then it's happening to AI off screen as I have not seen zombies without animations other than the very occasional T-pose which is unrelated

@gentle wraith Please do not tag devs/CMs that are currently not active in the chat

[gentle wraith]

is there a more productive way to send feedback? the feedback website is no longer supported?

[queen jungle]

#feedback is the best place and the place it's most likely to be seen by Crytek. Which is one of the reasons it's rather strictly moderated, e. g. no replies to other users being allowed

[fathom geyser]

@clever prawn i dont think you understand what skillbased matchmaking is

if you want to fight people with your skill, then why disable skillbased mm?

[clever prawn]

i know what it is but hear me out, if you play solo you have a lower match MMR, so im a regular 5 star so my matchmaking against duo's is 3/4 stars, which is not my 5 star level, i wanna 1v2 5 stars, if i disable sbmm it doesnt help , obnly when servers are empty

[stray horizon]

@queen jungle hard agree, i am way too adhd to watch a whole as video just give it to me in bullets

[queen jungle]

@karmic ivy Most players just complain about bugs. I don't see many bugs other than the infamous reload bug that seems fixed.

[queen jungle]

@ashen shell If there is any instance of damage dealt after the end of a match, you should head to #bug-reports-pc
Sounds like a strange bug 🤔

[frosty garnet]

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prevent the incident of dying by shooting each other at the same time. what is the bullet exit velocity for ?```

[tulip lily]

@proud pond used to be like that, but that resulted in people getting ghost bulleted due to ping difference (basically you shot after the server knows you're dead but you havent gotten that info yet, so you shoot and they dont take damage and you die)

i think they should bring it back, because if you got ghost bulleted it does mean you weren't fast enough and shuld have died, but they added an 800ms post-death bullet tolerance window where the server still lets you shoot up to 800ms after you die

[tulip lily]

i think this is actually good, makes people have to fight their way out of the raid. i hate when extraction is right at the boss and you literally cannot stop them from leaving if you aren't already there

[tribal wyvern]

Ye but if that would keep happening, no one would pick up bounty as it would be a death sentence, guaranteed to die.

People already avoid picking it up if has no extractions nearby

I do agree with extraction right behind the bounty, should not happen

[tulip lily]

Well that is the baby players

Idk man i love when i have a cross map extract

The whole reason i play is to fight why would i be upset having to fight more

[tribal wyvern]

The issue isn't the fights, it's how ppl approach said fights

[tulip lily]

I guess if ratting is the issue. But thats what u got dark sight for. Tho ig maybe snipers could cheese it? But thats why u got 2 extracts

[tribal wyvern]

If they're a bit out, you'd have like 6 - 7 seconds to scan.
At which case it's not to hard to constantly move & sit somewhere so you're forced to scan again to see where they are

And if thats just one team draining your scans, imagine the other teams on the way

[tulip lily]

Yall have that many teams after getting the bounty and getting out??

[tribal wyvern]

ye

if i take scupper lake bounty

and extract is all on the left side

[tulip lily]

I typically end up wiping 2 of the squads just trying to get the damn banish off

[tribal wyvern]

there can be 3+ teams waiting

[tulip lily]

Oh wait yall are playing duos

[tribal wyvern]

ppl don't approach boss compounds without extract if they're far away

[tulip lily]

Yah in duos i can see it being a bigger problem . I play trios so theres less squads to worry about. maybe thats why i dont have a problem with it

Typically once the bounty is ready in trios there is only 1 team left maybe 2

[tribal wyvern]

I play mix of both, with friends duo or trio, with randoms trios in the discord

[proud pond]

this makes solo games impossible.

[tulip lily]

I hate duos just cause of the absolute hellhole that occurs when duo 1 bounty happens

[tulip lily]

Yeah i really dont like the trade system. I think ghost bulleting is fine. its a bit frustrating feeling but ultimately you did lose the gunfight, just the way internet works made u think u didnt. Meanwhile trading is just a lose/lose situation .

If ur playing solo u pretty much have to play ranged cuz u risk trading too much otherwise 🥲

[cunning bone]

Please can you guys implement cross platform partying

[karmic ivy]

I prefer it the way it is. I have played games that represent almost every way there is to do multiplayer. And Hunt's client side hit detection with server side hit validation is the best.
Some will disagree of course, but its just player preferences.
Some like it set up so that a players internet latency and the latency of their computer will play a large part in the outcome of the game.
And some like it set up so that as much latency disadvantage as possible is mitigated, this provides a much more fun experience for those that do not have low latency internet and low latency computers.
It should be obvious why these two can't agree.
But given the choice, I think trading kills is less disruptive than dying in a frustrating way. And the real problem comes when players don't understand whats happening and start blaming the wrong things. I think this is how the myth of "ping abuse" got started.

[dull canyon]

The stinking ai in this game gets you killed more than the hunters do

[fathom geyser]

god i really hope the fire doesnt impact performance. my game already runs at 40fps with constant stutters. a mere fire bomb already tanks my game while it blows up.

[soft river]

prehistoric pc

[fathom geyser]

prehistoric pc is accurate lol

[tulip lily]

bronze age pc

[fathom geyser]

still, its pretty embarrassing when games with a lot more going on run at hundreds of fps and this optimization nightmare cant handle a fire bomb

this game is over half a decade old

wait no

it released 2018 not 2016

its almost half a decade old

does early access count as release 🤔

anyway

if this event makes the game unplayable then that would be very sad

[vivid flame]

I’m fearing the same brother

[short bronze]

reconnect feature works so horribly bad jesus christ

[proud pond]

hello guys i have a questions. when we increase the prestige level, is 10% experience point valid for only 1 level or is it permanent?

[proud narwhal]

its permanent !

[torn sage]

then new 10,000 xp offering animation is the same as the 2,500 xp. and that feels lame

[torn sage]

permanent till you prestige again

[proud narwhal]

yes, they do not stack, its valid for only that prestiege. if you select the 10% again, ittl be for that preiseiege only

[tawny meadow]

@proud pond i've deleted your post in suggestion since it's a question, not a suggestion. Also, the prestige bonus is valid for the whole prestige level.

[karmic ivy]

@boreal relic You should encourage your friends to toughen up and get informed. If they do not they could ruin pc gaming for themselves with their own fear. It sounds like they need to learn how it works.
#hunt-general message

[boreal relic]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

[karmic ivy]

I am not sure I can say it better than Rick:
"My final thoughts: After 10 years in this industry there is one thing I can say for sure – if you spend more time accusing everyone of cheating and thinking that cheaters are running wild, then that is going to spoil you fun more than any cheater ever can or will. Not every strange occurrence is a cheat, sometimes its skill and experience with the game, other times it is sheer luck. Cheaters do exist, but they are not as rampant as anyone makes them out to be."

[radiant river]

@boreal relic what region are you playing on?

[boreal relic]

I'm talking about 100% sure cheaters here. 180 meters headshot with a regular rifle with fog. Impossible shot.

I'm playing in Europe, and we're depressed by the games, today.

[unborn sandal]

I’d much rather die fairly than trade with someone just to spite them. I’ve had dozens of games where I traded with the last man standing and no one got bounty. I saw a suggestion in here earlier for ping priority for trades to essentially revive whoever had lower ping after a trade, which might work, but unless you’re miles away or using something with insane travel time like a crossbow trades shouldn’t happen

[karmic ivy]

"Cheaters do exist, but they are not as rampant as anyone makes them out to be."

[karmic ivy]

Its not "just to spite them". It is the trade off you must accept if you want responsive and fun gun-play while having latency, which a good amount of the gaming world deals with.

[radiant river]

no? there's plenty of games where trades dont happen

[karmic ivy]

Yes, Hunt does it different, and I in my opinion the best way.

[unborn sandal]

I only know one other game where trades are really common and it’s destiny

[radiant river]

i don't see how you can see hunt's as the best way.

a trade results in both sides being mad

[unborn sandal]

Not really

[radiant river]

objectively, both sides lose

[karmic ivy]

I don't get mad, for one it dosn't happen that often, and two, I like what I get in return, so I can accept it.

[boreal relic]

On CS:GO and Valorant, when people are cheaters or suspected, the matchmaking is made so that the cheaters are together. Is it not possible to do the same here ?

[unborn sandal]

Most people I interact with that melee rush the mosin sniper will say at least I got him after they trade

[karmic ivy]

Some would say that is how it works. Since cheats gain a lot of MMR score

[unborn sandal]

They person with cheaper gear will be happier in a duo or trio

In a solo or a 1v1 after lobby is dead no one wins and it shouldn’t work like that unless it’s due to travel time

[karmic ivy]

I solo quite a lot

[unborn sandal]

Your character should shoot or stab after you’re dead

[radiant river]

the game can't be designed around knowing whether its a 1v1 or not, there just needs to not be trades all the time so stuff like that doesnt happen

it just makes the pvp experience better

leads to a healthier game

[unborn sandal]

That’s why I saw someone suggest a ping priority system

[karmic ivy]

There is two sides to this argument, and the two will not agree. That is normal and expected.

[unborn sandal]

It would also somewhat help with ping abusers

[karmic ivy]

rofl, ping abuse

[unborn sandal]

Your side is screw everyone I don’t care and I’m taking someone with me

[boreal relic]

There's a difference between being a cheater and having a five star match MMR.

[unborn sandal]

My side is fairness and some expectations from game design

[karmic ivy]

no, it is about how the gun play is better when it is built this way.

[unborn sandal]

Explain how it’s better

[radiant river]

imagine every fight ends in a trade

would that be fun?

[unborn sandal]

Exactly

[radiant river]

you are just able to put up with a bad system, because it doesnt always matter

i'm not saying it's easy to actually fix this problem, but i think advocating for trades being how they are right now doesnt make much sense

[karmic ivy]

It is about latency, and how it effects the way gun play goes in a shooter game. It is a challenge to make it feel right for all involved.

[radiant river]

the times where it's "at least i traded" could be replaced with "i deserved to win that and i did" 50% of the time or "i deserved to lose that and i did" the other 50%. which is way better for a pvp fps

[unborn sandal]

High ping is the cause of pretty much every trade. They aren’t dead yet on their screen so they still get to shoot/stab. Ping priority in trades would help people actually playing on their lowest ping server while not making it unplayable for friends that need to make ping compromise

Trades don’t happen every game but they are a common enough occurrence to be addressed

[radiant river]

also people run shotguns less and less in high elo because of trades

[karmic ivy]

In my opinion this leads to bad gun play. It dosn't feel right for all involved.

[radiant river]

how so?

[unborn sandal]

And if you stay out of melee/shotgun range you can negate 90% of trades if you do happen to have high ping

Again, your idea of bad gunplay is fairness to those that did nothing wrong and shot first from a global timeline perspective

In a trade generally the low ping player clicked first

[unborn sandal]

I think Duncan gave up because he realized his argument is extremely flawed

[karmic ivy]

That is part of the issue, you see a global timeline, you like that and want that.
Hunt uses each clients time line, and I like how that plays out better.
.

In a nutshell (from feedback chan) "Being client side hit detection with server side hit validation, and I like the way that each client has authority till dead on the client (within reason of course). It feels like a good balance to me and I have a good amount of gaming experience to base that judgment on. I know what a challenge it is to make that system feel right for all involved, and I applaud your effort. Very well done."
-Duncan.Idaho

[unborn sandal]

There are multiple perspectives to every argument and you’re just choosing one that best mediates between good and bad ping players. If players actually played on their servers or crytek made the ping cap much lower then trades would seldom happen. I’m not suggesting they change the way hit detection works, I’m saying they stop punishing players with low ping and rewarding players with high ping when they could clearly change what server they play on to remedy this. I realize that some servers are low pop/high cheater density so people want to play on servers where they have higher ping, but there needs to be a system that doesn’t punish people on their lowest ping servers

[karmic ivy]

I think you are barking up the wrong tree. And you have it pretty wrong. No one is punishing low latency players, rofl, and no one is rewarding high latency players.
They have mitigated the disadvantage of latency, you just have a strange perspective on it.

[unborn sandal]

Then what you’re saying is they’ve mitigated the disadvantage of latency by punishing everyone, because both sides think the trade is bs and there’s no reason to play on your lowest ping server

Doesn’t sound like good gunplay to me

[signal mural]

That sounds like a difficult but definitely possible shot.

[boreal relic]

Yeah, and the following shots were "less obvious", but crazy too.

No mate, seriously. First shot, head-shot. Fog with no visibility at that range. And there wasn't any lost shot (not sure about the term here) before.

( And this player has been already reported before, according to their profile )

[karmic ivy]

"there’s no reason to play on your lowest ping server"

What about getting the lowest latency you can, that is very VERY important.

I think you are wrong here as well. "both sides think the trade is bs".
I think the only ones who don't like it are the "competitive/elite" who are accustomed to latency being such a disadvantage. In their world, the lowest latency player should have an advantage over anyone with higher latency. That is ok, and its good we have it for those that like it.
But Hunt took a different approach, and I like it much better. Ill wager most people who don't have the best gaming rigs and the best internet service like it much better as well.

That is why I say Hunt is a game for everyone. And that is why Hunt is succeeding, it is accessible and fun. It plays well on almost any gaming rig, and stable connection.

[signal mural]

That's no evidence. There are a lot of ommited variables there. If you have video and you suspect cheating you should definitely report it and look at the Kill View etc etc.

[little carbon]

It's not that they aren't dead yet. It's that the server has already declared them dead via the low ping players shot and then it receives the info (which has been delayed because of ping) from the high ping player that they have already killed the low ping player. Trades are in favor of the low ping player most of the times, as with no latency the high ping player would have won

[signal mural]

Was your party loud? Were you in a bounty area or nearing the compound? What line-of-sight & elevation did the shooter have? Was he in a party? Were you and your team moving, staking out, standing still?

I'm not saying your assessment was wrong but there are a lot of crack-shot players and a lot of accusations of cheating that go around. But don't quit because of cheaters, record your games, report suspicious players and move on. A few lost Hunters due to some jerks who don't understand the concept of a hallow victory shouldn't ruin the game for you all.

[boreal relic]

That's easy to say. I hope it will happen to you as well, you'll understand better. 🙂
There is no way it was legit, and we reported them, of course. But I still don't understand how come that kind of "really obvious" cheaters can still play the game.

[karmic ivy]

And that is why I said you and your friends should learn a little more about it.

There are reasons.

[signal mural]

It has happened to me maybe 2-3x in 600+ hrs on EU/RUS servers. I've reported more for abuse & toxic play than cheating.

[frosty garnet]

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Get more bounties in the game```

[dense schooner]

@hybrid gale usually when a suggestion cannot be voted on, it’s because the submitter blocked the bot (@marsh garden)

and there is no way around that unless the submitter unblocks the bot

[queen jungle]

@hybrid gale If the bot forgets to add reactions, us mods usually do this manually as soon as we notice. If you cannot add to already present reactions, this means the user who made the suggestion blocked you. This is a discord feature we don't have any influence on.

[hybrid gale]

Ah, interesting and good to know, thanks guys 👍

[iron trench]

@keen boltThey just released one 👍

[gaunt creek]

the last release introduced a bug: i lost all of my weapon favorites. and now when i favorite a single item, it auto-favorites ALL weapons of the same type! when you have lots of skins, as i do, this is a major frustration. please fix soon. thanks.

[karmic ivy]

#latest-update-discussion message
I saw this earlier from Violet, I think its related.

[frosty garnet]

@fair ether, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
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Allow us to obtain owned legendary hunters for free, without traits, in addition to having an option to buying them for $200 with traits. Sometimes I just want to use the skin, and it's annoying to have to spend $200 just because they always come with traits.```

[wheat pollen]

Anyone else confused by the new indoor sounds?

A team was chasing me and i went indoors then the sounds they made sounded outside but they were in the stairwell next to me. Never had this before with old sounds

[karmic ivy]

You know, some players leave their game at the menu all day.

[limpid umbra]

@unborn sandal did u have skill based off

[unborn sandal]

nope

2 match mmr difference at a really populated time on nae

[fathom geyser]

@gaunt garden ping abuse STILL isnt a thing

[unborn sandal]

Ping abuse isn’t common but playing with friends who aren’t in your lowest ping region or on more populated regions to get full servers is

[lean estuary]

@queen jungle I wouldn’t mind more “claw” pistol variants either, the New Army might make a cool claw pistol

[fathom geyser]

no, ping abuse simply isnt a thing. thats not how servers work.

[candid kindle]

Yes that is what I was intending by the extremely decreased accuracy of ads-ing, like how when dual wielding you kind of bring the weapons up for a bit of a better aim but it doesn't do all too much for the accuracy overall

[iron trench]

@keen bolt PC or Console my guy?

[keen bolt]

PC lol

[iron trench]

Then get a better CPU for your computer, my friend... and your PC is locked to 60 frames... you probably need to configure your GPU and also get better Monitor with more than 60 Hz.

[keen bolt]

I'm talking about the reconnecting yeah?

[iron trench]

You're locked to 60 frames...

[keen bolt]

yeah I'm used to that

[iron trench]

You should not my guy...

[keen bolt]

I know

I used to play like that in 2018 and I'm just used to it lol

[queen jungle]

Why shouldn't you lock to 60 fps?

[little carbon]

Could be circumvented by having the bot delete and repost suggestions. Because although it is rare there are people who block others to make their suggestions look better

@fair ether if you could buy legendary hunters for free, even if they come without traits, there wouldn't be any reason to use the free hunter at all. Also consider that even T2 and T3 Hunters come with a baseline cost, it just doesn't make sense for the legendary to not have a cost.

And in my opinion you should have to pay for not having to play a whiteshirt. If you manage to make enough mistakes to run out of money then it should be free hunters and not legendaries.

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A button in the Legendary Skins menu to only show Skins which are Not Owned already so its easier to see what people with many skins can still buy ^^```

[iron trench]

@crystal plume So... what are your complaints my friend...

[iron trench]

If your PC runs more than 60, you're actually losing frames by locking it to 60...
And trust me... the day you play on a 144Hz monitor with more than 60 Frames per Second, a scale will fall from your eyes; the difference is brutal.

[queen jungle]

I agree, claw is underused and the Pax needs more friends

[dim heron]

If your monitor can only do 60 frames... lock it to 60, don't let the system just run wild with unlocked frames. That's how you get bad performance

[karmic ivy]

I have seen some evidence that running over 60, while your monitor is 60, can still reduce system latency. Battlenonsense has done some interesting experiments regarding system latency. I was surprised to say the least. Not gonna judge it yet myself, but its interesting.

[dim heron]

For sure, but it can lead to tearing still as well as leaving your frames unlocked will force your system to overwork it's self

causing over heating and bad performance in general >.>

[karmic ivy]

indeed, I have seen that myself.
With that said, so far in my experiments, I prefer unlocked frames. I have not been testing this for long though, so am not ready to judge it fully.

[dim heron]

If you can manage a safe 120 frames on a 60hz monitor lock it to 120 but don't let it go unlocked

[karmic ivy]

will keep it in mind.

In the past I locked it at 60. so I have a lot of experience with that and am ready for an experiment.

[fair ether]

that's not true? Free hunters come with equipment, and for free. A free legendary hunter would come with absolutely nothing

also who really cares if free hunters don't get used as much? It's only a cosmetic difference

[tribal wyvern]

I'd agree if it wasn't because i've paid real money to get access to said hunters. Shouldn't be an ingame currency aswell blocking me from playing them.
Insert any game that has a secondary currency that can block you from using paid skins.

Weapons are a bit different, as they give power to your hunter.
But the legendary hunter for free with no traits, wouldn't give you anything to increase your power, as in more healing, reduce dmg taken by explosive, more speed etc as traits would.

As Ethonodon said aswell, between a legendary hunter & a free hunter, it would only be a skin.
I know some ppl say you're paying for more camouflage, but at the same time theres more visible legendary hunters & also less visible free hunters, like the ones with dark red shirts.

Besides I think it's a bit of a myth with the whole "more camouflage."
Because theres people who can't see white shirts in plain sights.

[tribal wyvern]

Ye because if this mattered, then there should have been an outcry, when free hunters (as i've been told) at one point, could only be used if you had literally no money to buy a hunter at all.

[little carbon]

I'd be fine with an option to apply legendary hunter skins to any T2 / T3 Hunter. I'd also probably be fine with a free version of the legendary hunter if you could only buy it if you haven't bought the free hunter yet, and if you do it locks the free hunter until the next shuffle.
This way you cant buy the free hunter, dismiss, buy free legendary and equip the free guns.
It's less about legendaries being too camouflaged, but whiteshirts do stick out a lot and I feel like the free hunter should intentionally be quite bad

Same with guns. The option to apply a skin to any non-contraband weapon you own could seriously reduce UI clutter while keeping the unique feature of being able to scavenge skins and also keeping the free weapons a worse deal

[tribal wyvern]

Free hunters being used only for their loadouts happens now to aswell regardless if they use the hunter or not.

When im at like 70+ in prestige i never buy fre hunters, i only take them for the loadout & dump the hunter

lvl 70 in a prestige i mean, not prestige 70

Also base version being moot, is kinda the point with skins

because u wanna use the skin u paid real money for

I mean apply any other game, do you buy skins in CoD & then go like "you know what, ima use the base version instead."

[queen jungle]

@last oracle Please refrain from singling out certain ethnic groups or nationalities and accusing them of violating the rules.

@agile fractal Please make sure to report any bugs or issues you encounter to the appropriate bug report channels.

[last oracle]

This doesn't have to do anything with ethnicity or nationalities. more with geography. they have their own server region.

[queen jungle]

@glass fractal Please make sure to report any bugs or issues you encounter to the appropriate bug report channels.

[queen jungle]

And the Hunt devs have stated that anybody should be free to choose where they want to (as long as they are within the ping limit to avoid technical issues on the server side).
Your post specified people from a specific nation as supposed cheaters, which we do not tolerate.

@keen bolt Please make sure to report any bugs or issues you encounter to the appropriate bug report channels.

[last oracle]

it seems like you give extra advantages for the Russian region. why do they get their own? Either they can go on the EU or the Asian servers, but they have their own. Thats alright for me, but then they should play on it.. Another question, are you impling the R-word? Any form of defamation can have legal consequences. I don't care what ethinictiy or nationality somebody has. It's only region based in form of the technical advantage (ping abuse).

[queen jungle]

There is no advantage in having a significantly higher ping. Especially considering the ping from RU to EU isn't that high (around 50ms from central Germany, where the EU servers are, to the RU servers in western Russia).

[little carbon]

Also to this point i would say the following. People are in either of 2 Situations:

• They have enough money that they dont need to play free Hunters, at that point paying for the legendary shouldnt matter, especially since they are already a really good deal since they a) reduced their price and b) inflated the income.
• They are so low that they need to play the free Hunter, at which point i think its deserved having to play whats given since you only end up with these problems if you seriously mismanaged your inventory

[last oracle]

Respond to the second phrase of my text. I don't have anything against any person for their ethnicity or nationality. And yes, every digit is a technical advantage. Maybe you should play this game, then you notice to.

[little carbon]

It still insinuates that there is a correlation between a negative attribute (cheating) and another personal attribute (region), when those two attributes are clearly not correlated.
Also, Finall here is right, High Ping does not grant you an advantage, quite the opposite in fact

[runic crypt]

I would love to see how those "legal consequences" stand in front of an actual lawyer 😛

[queen jungle]

It is not an advantage. Having a higher ping is, if anything, a significant disadvantage for anybody involved.. The reason a ping limit was introduced was because at a certain threshold (>225 ms), the servers started to experience technical difficulties causing downsides for everybody on said servers.

While you may suggest a universal region lock in #game-ideas, we do not tolerate singling out specific ethnic groups, nationalities, etc. as this violates our #discord-rules regarding discrimination.

[last oracle]

All I'm saying is they have their own server region. if they already have an isolated region. They could play on EU or Asian servers but Crytek gives them region. I don't know if that was a try to remove them from the other regions to isolate them. Would be really interesting to know why there is a Russian server region. And yes, high ping gives you more trade possibilities, mole.

[last oracle]

§187 StGB, german law🫣

[last oracle]

alrighty then, i'll suggest this instead.

[runic crypt]

Oh I'm glad you googled German Law and yes it does have laws against defamation! Except it doesn't apply to the statement Finall made because there is no evidence of defamation, you have to abide by Discord's rules and your post violated them, so Finall told you not to violate the rules and explained your violation. Explain to me where in Finall's message did he undeniably defame you?

[still basin]

Would love to see the original post for context lol

[runic crypt]

It's just funny to me when I see people trying to intimidate companies with a legal team with benign legal threats 😛

[little carbon]

Russian Servers are quite common in games. Russia is a big country, people in the far reaches of Russia often have, depending on provider, not the best ping to either Asia or EU. While they are still able to play on those with all the disadvantages that high ping brings, they also have their own region so they dont have to work under high ping. They can still choose to if they rather play on other servers because of friends, or generally more consistent population on other servers

[queen jungle]

Alright, let's not discuss this any further. If anybody in here thinks they have been treated unfairly by a member of the mod team, please send a message to @muted zealot and it will be reviewed by a higher-ranking member of the team.

[last oracle]

it's funny when somebody tries to defend a company about something that doesn't effect him

[still basin]

Id stop there guys

Before it gets to a bad place lol

[little carbon]

Finall asked to let that topic lie and i think it doesnt serve a purpose to restart that discussion

[median oyster]

List of problems the game has had for years still not fixed:

• Jumping over beartraps still activates them (actual prank)
• Parkour is trash. Westerners apparently can't climb anything above waist level, and I gotta press jump 1000 times to climb something that is
• Weapon sway got INCREASED.... shall I say more? Whoever thought that was a good idea needs to be fired immediately. Holy hell. What is wrong with you. Purposefully made the game worse.
• Throwables take forever to throw.
• I have to press duck multiple times to get it to unduck half the time.

It feels like a PS3 game with these issues ... like severely not AAA.

But hey, at least there's new 10 dollar skins, right?

[little carbon]

When did the weapon sway get increased? Definitely not in any recent update.
And you can jump over beartraps without triggering them consistently.
And what do you mean by throwables take forever to throw?

[median oyster]

I think a year ago.

Also, no. Not consistently. Doesn't work at all. It shouldn't be this difficult.

I mean throwables take forever to throw. Throw something in real life, compare to game. The difference is insane.

[runic crypt]

It's just how they balance throwables in the game, doesn't have to mimic reality 100% if it potentially throws balancing off

[queen jungle]

I don't think there have been any general changes to sway ever since the massive reduction of sway upon console launch 🤔

Personally I wish we'd get old sway levels back to make aiming require more control.

[wispy badge]

Are there any plans for hunt to make the game a 4 player game? Cause we always have that 1 friend left out cause the game is just a 3 player game... plus there would be more action if they ever do that

[queen jungle]

The devs have talked of no such plans. Hunt's core mode is duos, everything is made and balanced with duos in mind. Trios was a later addition upon popular demand, but comes with some downsides because of that.
Personally, I don't think we'll see larger team sizes in the foreseeable future.

[late wind]

@iron trench I own two lebels and man I've tried to make the same point. But mosin/uppercut babies don't want anything challenging their precious meta loadouts.

Because if the lebel had its irl iron sights it would be a solid option.

[lean estuary]

Great instance here of where we as players should apply some "in-universe" context....imagine, if you will, you're someone in 1895 and you're trying to throw a once empty liquor bottle now filled with kerosene, with a fuse you made yourself out of two light-anywhere matches...you have to pull it out of it's pouch, remove whatever safety cover you have on the match fuse, pinch the matches together and snap your fingers to light it (make sure it's lit!), then throw.

Things like the Hive bomb could definitely be a quick throw, pretty much anything else that doesn't have a pin (Concertina Bomb) or a friction fuse (Frag Bomb, Choke Bomb? Flash?) is going to take an extra second.

I agree with you about the parkour stuff though, seems like we could be able to move around the environment a little better

[unborn sandal]

@pearl summit Oh no the corner camper is mad what ever shall crytek do

[iron trench]

That's it...

[lean estuary]

Do you have an image of the real sights? I’m genuinely curious now

[median oyster]

I'm not talking about the pin-pulling type stuff, although that stuff is far too slow. I mean the actual act of throwing. Takes forever from click-release.

[median oyster]

What about increasing players per map? The game feels very empty. Would be more fun with a mode with a lot more players.

[late wind]

Let me take a couple and get back to you.

[iron trench]

Maaaan... you could take a photo of your Lebel's real Iron Sights, i'm curious about how it is the real life POV.
And maybe even make a thread here in the "suggestion-ideas" showing us them.

[late wind]

I've done it in this thread before lmao and people still wouldn't have it.

I've got one early pattern made 1889 and one late pattern (that I'm restoring) assembled 1924 and it still wasn't enough to convince these people.

[cosmic void]

@fair ether based off of your suggestion you would be happy to know that the bomblance is getting special ammo in the event

well what looks to be special ammo

[queen jungle]

12 players is already 20% more than what the game was originally designed for: 10 players per match.
In the past, the devs have stated that they don't want constant PvP action, but rather the feeling of being alone in the wild but possible also being watched/hunted by others. PvP-encounters are supposed to be rare, but all the more tense due to the high possibility of losing everything if you decide to engage other players.

[white oasis]

#game-ideas message
uh you can just double click the weapon in the roster/equipment screen

@quasi thistle

[limber meadow]

Okay is it just me or are avtomats way op with the doul sparks pistols right now...

[royal horizon]

the avto has been op since the introduction of the Sparks Pistol

[limber meadow]

I just had a team with two of them, melted us instantly

They just need to decrease how much amo there is on double, and decrease how much amo they pick up. As right now if you bring an amo box you basicly are set for 5 reloads.

[frigid folio]

Just make the Avto special ammo like all the other strong guns and make it so it gets more from ammo boxes (once it's special) to balance it out a bit more. Maybe like 7 from a box?

[unborn smelt]

@white oasis we used to have a second channel were highly upvoted suggestions ended up - it was called #suggestions-overview but that was discontinued and archived.

We also had a no duplicates rule in the past but changed it to no reposts of the same person a while back.

[white oasis]

huh, i guess you got your reasons then
the only question left if suggestions even do anything then, also lack of discussion and feedback
would love to know why stuff got downvoted but the way it is at the moment commenting is just clunky and tedious, like you discourage people from doing just that

[somber viper]

If PvP encounters are supposed to be rare, why the clown spawns? I've been in (and seen) many matches where the PvP happens at the first compound when one or more teams spawn next spot over and a lot of the map gets wiped in the first few minutes. If it is supposed to be rare, spread the spawns out more.

[white oasis]

@hazy mason
#game-ideas message
i think i read somewhere that they dont wanna muffle or cover up sounds with environments

[unborn dagger]

If they didn't we wouldn't have gotten Lemat Carbine or Schofield

Although that doesn't mean they always work obviously otherwise console would ACTUALLY have some form of priority...

[somber viper]

Saw another Twitch this weekend where a duo used VOIP to call a truce and then shot the other guy. Seems like those kinds of hunters should be banned until they get out of diapers ...

[somber flint]

I think it just picks from the spawn points at random. I see how it can be annoying but I personally like the unpredictability of it. It accomplishes the goal that you never feel completely safe. If every team spawned at the other edges of the map every time, the first minutes would feel kinda boring because you know that there is no danger anyway.

[unborn smelt]

The reason discussions about feedback and suggestions is supposed to happen here and not in the respective channels is because that makes it far more efficient for the devs to go through them. As for why the devs dont usually talk about a specific suggestion is because in the past people took it as a promise stuff would get implemented and implemented exactly the way they wrote.

As one can see if one looks through #suggestions-overview and compares that to the recent additions to hunt (the last year or so) one will see they implemented a lot of it but in their own ways.

[white oasis]

i get that theyre supposed to be different channels but have you thought about a thread channel? or responses in threads?
lets every message be easily parseable and replieable

[unborn smelt]

I mean i can bring it up and see what the others think of it

[tight delta]

I was just thinking if threads could improve the feedback channel. Hard to keep track of feedback discussion when it's not in relation with the actual feedback post.

[fair ether]

I know, and it doesn't change anything regarding my suggestion

special ammo is cool and all but it doesn't really address any existing problems with base ammo or the weapon itself

[boreal root]

Are we ever going to get a centered crosshair option? Because I'm getting nauseous trying to adapt to a single game with this setup.

[hazy mason]

Oh ok thank u, I didnt know ‘bout that ! 👍🏻

[iron trench]

Many people have this issue... but i don't really think they're gonna change it, unfortunately..

[queen jungle]

The issue isn't just moving the crosshairs, but lowering the camera height I think.

[boreal root]

i dont mind the camera position

what I hate is the crosshair position

the camera angle atleast is self explanatory, and that is to counter head peeking

[queen jungle]

I know it's not centered, it's a bit low.

[boreal root]

but a non centered crosshair benefits nothing but "visual"

and I'm not playing a campaign game, to be interested in a non centered crosshair

id rather have the option to center it as I have a background of over 30k hours on fps competitively

it makes my stomach turn upside down when i cant rely on my senses

[queen jungle]

You mean it affects you in other FPS games.

[boreal root]

this is the only fps game ive seen that does a non centered crosshair

its like forcing someone to write with left hand when you are right hand dominant

also one of the biggest reasons why there is not many ppl interested in this game.

Hence why i said an "option" rather than an overhaul

[iron trench]

But look at this video about crosshair placement, it makes some sense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrWDiMa8RoA&ab_channel=LateNightGaming

But besides that, i think the game should have an option to able the centered crosshair.

[boreal root]

Those games are primarily campaign and story based.

This game is a competitive fps, an entirely different genre

[crystal plume]

This is a very weird comparison when it's nowhere near as difficult to adjust 😄 Hunt was my first game with lowered crosshair and even currently I can swap between games with centered crosshair and Hunt no problem, it only becomes a problem if you make it one for yourself

Good example of it is when a big streamer with esports background that I'm not going to name played Hunt and had no issues until someone in his chat pointed out the lowered crosshair to them and then all of the sudden they had neck pain from having to look lower and such

[boreal root]

I'm not making it hard for myself, I'm pointing out that,

I'm heavily relying on reflex

And I cannot use it, when 80% of my shots are hitting their legs and im aiming for the neck

Not everyone notices everything at the same rate, I noticed this the very moment i started playing.

But you do you.

[iron trench]

I agree with you.. the game should have an option to center your crosshair if you like so.

[lean estuary]

I personally didn’t choose to this game to be a “competitive FPS” player, I bought it and play it because I like the idea of the project, the great art and sound design, and the potential for more of the same! The Southern Gothic/ Gothic Horror is in more of a specialized genre, but (performance/bug issues aside) if the game was crafted badly I would dislike it and stop playing.

I don’t see it as just another arena to showcase my FPS skills

[crystal plume]

I don't mind if they add an option for centered crosshair as long as it doesn't introduce any unwanted side effects that give possible benefits to using it with the camera placement and level design, but regardless there's a lot more to implementing such a feature than just bringing the crosshair higher or the camera lower and it will be difficult to get right without affecting other things negatively

[karmic ivy]

You seem to be ignoring that us humans can learn different control schemes at the same time. We do it all the time. A car does not drive like a fork truck for example. But driving a fork truck does not stop me from driving my car just as well. If fact I get better at backing up the car. So in a way, you are doing it to yourself. You are limiting yourself by telling yourself you can't manage it.
I am with diiba on this, I can do both.

[karmic ivy]

Funny story

[lean gorge]

Need to fix trading kills asap

[bronze quail]

Raise the monitor

Problem solved

People always complaining every time they have to learn something new

Like gunslinger, everybody crying about how hard was pressing one more button to aim

[fluid widget]

@queen jungle I like your gem idea, but people would abuse the flashing/animation as a way to ascertain if they got kills at distance.

[queen jungle]

I changed it to getting shot

[queen jungle]

I used the martini henry because I wanted to cover up that thumb print on the gun.

[daring zinc]

@marsh moth I agree, the roadmap was indeed quite exciting

[marsh moth]

🫡

[sly heron]

so, just honestly curious....does Crytek honestly look and deal with the hackers when they get reported? or do they just point and laugh at the comments.

[placid lark]

There's a glitch with the wagons where you can vault into them and get stuck permanently

Im just voicing my complaints

Cuz I lost a hunter due to it

[burnt mulch]

#bug-reports-pc or #customer-support are probably better places, especially if you have video.

[median oyster]

A full charge bayonet chest hit + a light mosin melee = they STILL LIVE?!

Yeah this games kind of a joke idk what to say. I've been pranked. Steams refund policy is BS. I want my money back lol

All heavy weapons with blades on them should 1 tap.

You try fighting back with a 20 inch blade in your torso. What a joke, dude.

[torn sage]

so far ive never been killed by more then one shoot in quick match. mostly this is because i half suck but also why i hate this game mode. add quick match by MMR

[signal mural]

You're better off playing Solo Bounty Hunt. Not that I don't think QP shouldn't have it's own MMR & but it is a less popular mode and doesn't stand to gain popularity by changing. Skill based matchmaking in QP would just lead to probably two brackets (1-4*) & (4-6*).

[torn sage]

just trying to finish off the achievements. then ill never touch it again

[signal mural]

Exactly, that's why most people play that mode I think. Or because it lacks skill-based match making...

Honestly I think Summons came about because people hated weekily challenges like 'Be the Soul Survivor 7 times'. I hope all QP challenges just get dropped with the new "Challenges" system.

[torn sage]

well yea pretty sure no one did the quick mode challenges. myself i quit doing them because the rewards suck. i just finished the 1200 damage with silver dime... boy thats a crap quest

[signal mural]

Yeah, there are a lot of frusterating ones in Questlines too. I avoided doing that one. Lighting 6 Hunters on fire is my current dread quest... that or killing a Hunter with Stalker Beetle (which I have done but of course while I didn't have the Quest equipped).

[torn sage]

use stalker beatle 8 times turns into throwing it away and picking it up 8 times lol

[signal mural]

I just wish Crytek would stop trying to reinvent the same systems and just improve the ones they have... "Challenges" should give event points now. But we could have just gotten a Questline for unlocking more Event Points and a box to tick to automatically repeat a Summons challenge to make the old system less "manuel" & more automated (the supposed reason for eliminating the system). Ah well let's see how the new rendition is on Wednesday...

[royal horizon]

For the "set people on fire" quest, just use the 60$ Romero with half Dragonbreath. Costs piss-all and works like a charm.

To kill people with the Beetle, I just stabbed a guy once and swapped to the Beetle to melee him to death

[signal mural]

Easier said than done - but the trinket doesn't interest me enough to try smacking people with the beetle

[little carbon]

Not true, its the only way to prevent headglitching as it is the accurate position for the gun placement. Centered crosshair either leads to a misplaced bullet origin or a misplaced camera.

[worthy knoll]

mAyBe yOu jUsT hIt HiS aRm

Also i agree!

[worthy knoll]

Well thats doable If you use Broheim Match incendiary at some Range. With Vandal incendiary as cheap ammo pouch second Slot.

[fluid widget]

Dragons breath! Hahaha. My favorite special ammo.

[drifting python]

hey some feedback here. if a developer stream is announced for 6 CET how about start it 6 CET

[spice topaz]

So an hour from now?

[drifting python]

yes

[keen bolt]

@iron trench you know sight is a preference in this game rite?

[teal solstice]

I'm a five star player, and I play solo, last game my MMR was 2771, killed 2 Five star players and one four star player, then to get naded by a four star to death. I find myself down 60 MMR now (2711) from that game, killing three people a game has almost always got me down in MMR.

My suggestion is not helping the solos by making the MMR against them lower, when I get killed by a four star it takes me down drastically.

So as a solo I find this makes my life harder, I get higher ranks when playing in trios even though I die more.

Does anyone have a similar problem?

[unborn sandal]

Play duos so you don’t get the solo in trios mmr reduction

Or alternatively play to game to have fun instead hinging your enjoyment on a number on your screen

[cursive jewel]

Why bother trying to get 5-6 star anyways? I'm perpetually one or the other and all I do is wish I were 3-4 instead lol

[cinder bolt]

well, I'm a 2gb vram player so most of the time my textures don't load , just found out the primary reason of this and it seems hunters just take up so much space in vram, just played an empty lobby and my textures loaded fine

does the texture streaming not apply to hunters?

[unborn dagger]

Uh yeah that's why it's called a video game and not real life. Lol

[teal solstice]

@unborn sandal
Some people like getting better and better to see how far the limit that they are capable of

[cursive jewel]

I play like an absolute goon and am permanently in 5-6 star, it takes almost 0 skill to get into and all it does it put you up against people that care WAY too much about their KDA

Its almost literally anti fun. I have significantly more fun just playing with my friends that're 3-4 stars

Now in other games where the MMR system is actually done well, it makes complete sense to want to climb. In hunt it simply does not imo

[still basin]

Its stupid how easy it is to climb mmr and stay in the sweat zone. Get a couple good games and then you're matched with head shot machines for eternity.

[orchid wadi]

Well done Dev stream! Enjoyed the content and looking forward to the event!!!

[frosty garnet]

@charred raft, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
Matched regex in message in #game-ideas (#suggestions-ideas, 524577494863708180):

I'd really enjoy seeing a scotfield precision skin.```

@charred raft, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
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I think that servers loading should place a person or team into a match  only when they are paired with atleast one other team. Waiting all that time to gain entry into a match only to be placed into an empty lobby takes away from the joy of the hunt.```

[foggy vault]

Here is my recent and only post on the feedback section in a while. What do you guys think. Do you agree or no. Take to note that Ive been playing for a long time and am usually on the hopeful and support side of the game but this too much...
What are your thoughts.

"Wtf is going on Crytek. $15 for the new DLC?!?

Remember when I warned you guys not to become like Valorent, CoD, or Fornite with the excessive prices. Well, I guys your guys at marketing didn't listen. Did they think that because we've been supporting the game it gives them the right to try to see how far they can milk money from us??

With no server improvements, not balancing to the trading mechanics, no mechanic to sale contraband weapons or further limiting the ping restrictions they have the audacity to ask for $15 dollars for ONE DLC. I don't care how cool it looks it is a digital product. That is a whole new discounted game right now. That is a meal for 2 people, that is a present for a children, an entire bag of food for my pet, a entire movie newly release film or month of Netflix. Point is it is excessive.

I've been a great fan and on the supporting part for you the game but not here but I drew my line when I saw that you priced the previous dlc skin, the Concubine, at $9.99 now you double down with $15.

I was looking forward to rocking this skin but I rather wait 5 months for a sale and get it at it's suggestive price of $7 then pay this high amount to allow this abomination continue."

[iron trench]

Yes... all 5 and 6 stars hate the Lebel sights and everybody prefer mosins because of that, even them having almost the same stats...
And what i'm talking about is: Make them as equal as in real life, the real life Lebel 1886 iron sights are much better than that.

[queen jungle]

Probably because there's two legendary hunters instead of one.

[foggy vault]

No, it is just one hunter with a secondary skin. Not two hunters.
My main problem is the price increase trend that they been pulling lately and in this case a double price increase.
Just look at this. Previous dlcs included more and were cheaper. Now it is almost the opposite.

[foggy vault]

Now, I bought the game a long time ago and because I have gotten my money's worth I have been purchasing the dlcs to support the game further. However, this is a straight up insult to the players and community!

[inner loom]

That's just how deflation works.
New products always go down in price over time.

[queen jungle]

You don't have to purchase the skin. Besides Valorant is worse with it's pricing model. A set of guns is $60.

You want a cool epic gun, it's $10 for one.

Overwatch 2. Since it's become free to play, all of it's skins is like $10 to $20.

Sure you can grind for some of them, but the ingame currency is much harder to earn compared to Hunt.

[foggy vault]

Deflation doesn't effect a digital good that has no real world usefulness in the end. Now I can understand wanting to make a profit but they are attempting it at the players expense.

No, I am not saying to stop support the game nor to stop playing but to not purchase this particular skin because of it's excessive pricing.

[queen jungle]

Let's be real, me buying a few of their older DLCs totalling $7 isn't going to make a dent in their income.

And then I say, I'm supporting them. Kinda, but also, not really. Server costs alone... which is why our Hunt Servers are very iffy.

[inner loom]

Weird how you state an opinion so factually when the entire Steam marketplace is an experiment in how older video games get discounted regularly.

[queen jungle]

It's $14 because it's two skins. They've raised the price from around $5-$7 to $9.

[foggy vault]

Yes, but it is not just you. It's is over 30k of players.

Now let's take the rough estimate of 30k players and pretend that only about 10k will purchase the skin. That is $150,000 dollars for the DLc alone. Take away the 30% cut from steam and it is still 105k for this item.

With the recent changes in prices which I've been fine with myself they have to increase the dlc prices to twice their normal so to sustain the game and servers. Servers that have not been improved upon.

[queen jungle]

Secondly, all things have increased in price because of global inflation.

[inner loom]

Economics aren't real when things don't have real life value. 🤣

[queen jungle]

I do want Hunt to make money. Making money means we can get new updates and events.

If it gets popular enough (like Apex Legends popular), we could someday get new servers.

[foggy vault]

Again, I am not saying to stop playing or support the game itself. Just not to play into this excessive price change. It starts gradual but if we don't put a foot down this WILL snowball.

[queen jungle]

It's not excessive, it's two Hunter skins. $7 each.

And they know that skin looks good. That Lone wolf DLC, with the dog skull mask. That was a popular Hunter. This one is a lamb.

[foggy vault]

That just it. Two skins for $7 each. Are you hearing that correctly. All the skins for hunters began at $3. A dlc pack with hunter and guns was a $6-7 combo. Now for a similar it's $15?
I don't disagree that they are nice but not $15 nice. I can understand the pack being $8-9 hell even $10 but not $15.

Listen in the end, I cannot force anyone one way or the other. I am just wanting to clearly point out, and warn about, this very dangerous pricing game that will snowball if allowed. It happens without a doubt in every place where companies "test the waters" with increasing price changes.

In the end, I won't purchase them regardless of how much I wanted to not because I cannot afford it but for the principle.

[iron trench]

@proud narwhalThe FMJ Pax is going to take the role entirely of the Scottfield FMJ because it has higher muzzle velocity;
And i totally agree with you and i said this many times here... the Pax and also the Springfield should both have high velocity ammo...
Putting FMJ in a Pax seems to me the same as putting FMJ in a Nagant Officer, doesn't make any sense.

[frosty garnet]

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@proud narwhal

The FMJ Pax is going to take the role entirely of the Scottfield FMJ because it has higher muzzle velocity;
And i totally agree with you and i said this many times here... the Pax and also the Springfield should both have instead high velocity ammo...
Putting FMJ in a Pax seems to me the same as putting FMJ in a Nagant Officer, doesn't make any sense right? Because there is already other revolvers actually doing that role (Caldwell Conversion and New Army)...```

[karmic ivy]

You asked for our thoughts on your feedback.
I think you come off all wrong. You seem to be taking the know it all stance. Yet you don't understand why two skins is more than one? You also don't seem to know how business works...
I think you should ask for a good discount down the road and stop worrying about how they make their money.

[unborn smelt]

Yes it does - deflation describes a falling price niveau because of lower demand.

A lot less people wanna play a 5 years old game than a new one - hence less demand and thus a sinking price for the old game - simultaneously costs for living skyrocketet with corona, so the company needs to pay the hunt team more hence new stuff getting more expensive.

[tawny meadow]

@chilly wren because they are horse, not bear, duh

[fathom geyser]

7500BBs for the big holiday bundle is a joke, right?

theres no way youre serious about this

[inner loom]

It's 2 years worth of legacy skins.

What's off about it?

[fathom geyser]

players have been begging for the return of those exclusive skins because they hadnt had the chance to get them. so now they do this shit

they spit in the face of said players

and try to use it for squeeze out every last bit of money

once free to get skins

now 70 bucks

im disgusted

[inner loom]

Those players have been saying things like 'Please I want x skin please please please, make it 3000 BB, I don't care, please I want it'

[fathom geyser]

literally no one says that

[inner loom]

Uh-huh. Sure.

[fathom geyser]

doesnt change the fact that its disgusting

i paid 40 fucking euros for this game

their monetization is getting worse by the day

[inner loom]

Crazy idea: Don't buy the items.

[fathom geyser]

crazy idea

[inner loom]

What a lovable and reasonable person you are.

[cedar coyote]

[dense schooner]

to be fair, they were meant to be exclusive items. they’re giving you the chance to get them once again. if they were put at a low price then they’d quickly lose their exclusivity.

[inner loom]

It's not even that. 7.500BB for 8 or so items is not an unreasonable asking price.
In fact, it is lower than most current releases.
For Halloween we didn't even get a two-year-bundle.
We only got the latest and the rest was full price.
We've also gotten a completely free questline with 6 items.
But it's all malpractice, apparently.
Devs only want the worst.

This is a topic on which there's no satisfying people.
Some will want the items to be free, others will want them completely unobtainable to retain their own exclusive status. There's no winning.
But not everyone can see that.

[radiant river]

Are the items buyable alone as well?

[inner loom]

Most likely.
The Halloween ones were.
No idea on pricing, though.

Considering the bundle is '33% off', they won't be cheap. Ballparking 1.500 or 2.000 for the hunters and around 1.000 or so per weapon.

[vital drum]

Yes

[still basin]

@inner loom i mean wouldn't a lower price sell more? It's not a factory with material cost. It's a digital skin, sell it cheap and sell more

[inner loom]

That'd work in a world where every single player is spending and you have a massive player base.
I'm sure whoever works for Crytek and does finances is more qualified than I am to make decisions about their business model.

[still basin]

I see what you're saying about a larger player base, but wouldn't a more affordable price entice more players to spend? 50 bucks vs 10 is an easier pill to swallow. Also the playerbase isn't small. Not pubg, but not small either.

[inner loom]

That's a lot of ifs.
Even just 10 bucks is a lot to a person that has never spent before.
It becomes a question of whether whales spend more or the average Johnny can be charmed enough to invest his first 5 bucks.
It's not that easy to convince someone to spend money.
10 is a lot less than 50, true.
But what if you draw the line at 5? 2? 0?
Hence why I think someone a lot smarter and with more data than me has done the math.
It's their job, after all.

[still basin]

Thats my thing though. If a skin costs a dollar, thats a pure profit dollar. Toothpaste is priced by ingredient prices, graphics cards etc, insert whatever there. A digital skin is pure profit past recouping the dev cost. So selling to 1/10 of the player base that'll spend 70 dollars vs a guaranteed increase in sales at a lower price point seems kind of dumb. I'm not saying things have to be dirt cheap, but some of these prices are kind of silly.

[inner loom]

Is it pure profit, though?
They don't come from nothing.
Skins aren't an infinitely producable resource.
You have to take into account that you need artists, you need concepts and you need to take a look at player satisfaction/retention.
Product fatigue is a real thing.
Look at Hasbro's current wavering as they've tripled profits by quintupling the amount of product provided by their WotC franchise 'Magic: The Gathering'.
The player base is starting to reject product based on the sheer amount they're getting flooded with.
Dirt cheap skins would be nice.
But would they really, though?
I don't think things are as simple as 'draw a cowboy, sell him for a dollar'.

I'm not saying you're wrong, either.
But at the end of the day, this is a decision that's down to each side: Us, as players, in what we take/want - we vote with our wallets & Crytek as a company to figure out what's in demand.

[unborn dagger]

It just makes me really confused why they haven't made the game free to play at this point.

This entire game is becoming more of a mobile game

[unborn sandal]

@glacial rose People also complained about the head hit box of mountain man and skinflint. Aim slightly over the shoulders and you should hear a squish. This is really not an issue

@unique osprey The money system in hunt has never made sense. I went in with 2 teammates, got nine kills off 1 team, got a small bounty, and extracted for 3200

[radiant river]

Why have AAA companies raised their prices to 70$ then? It's the same thing

[unborn sandal]

@lethal ore we’re they redskulled?

[radiant river]

Also this is a bundle of 8 or so skins so that's why it costs that much. It's not one 80$ skin

[unique osprey]

good to know lol

[inner loom]

The money system very much makes sense.
And it's pretty easily explained by the end-of-mission cards.
'Bounty' means you earned money.
Small bounties give from 75-125 per token.
Bigger bounties can go up to 200 when there's a single bounty.
You add on that the money you get from clues (50 each) and killing the boss also awards a small amount. About 125 from memory.
If you're outnumbered you get a flat amount extra, your lobby will tell you how much.
1v2, 1v3, 2v3 have different payouts.
Extracting with time left gives an amount stated on the card.
Then you also get whatever you pick up in the world.

Getting 3000 on a small bounty is not from the bounty.
You most likely hit a bloodline level-up that gave you 2.000 Hunt dollar extra.
That has nothing to do with the bounty.
But of course all of this means reading, so most people don't bother.

Could it be easier? Yes, of course.
Could the payouts be bigger?
People raise concerns.
Does the game not explain it or lie to you or make it random? No. Not at all.

[unborn sandal]

Why would it add rank up money to the mission summary

[inner loom]

Because completing the mission ranked you up.

I haven't read it/I didn't bother learning/I don't like it/I don't understand it =/= It makes no sense

There's very much a consistent internal logic to it.

[cursive jewel]

@unborn sandal Bruh, Serpent is already insanely useful wut

Easily a go to perk

[young egret]

I do agree that serpent is a really useful perk. Obviously it can't be used all the time but the times it is useful are game changing (Specifically when it comes to yoinking bounty on people who didn't auto pickup)

[cursive jewel]

I mean there's also downing someone with bounty inside, then serpenting it to claim it and apply additional pressure to the other team

[young egret]

Yee, I have had that happen before too. I tend to see a lot more people not auto pickup and give me time to push building yoink bounty and push back with my team so they won't run unless they extract with half a bounty

I always find a lot of good out of it when it comes to taking clues from meathead guarded clue spots so we don't have to waste time and possible resources dealing with the meathead

[still basin]

Exactly, why?

I'm not paying 70 for a game

[inner loom]

To maximize profits.
You're simply not the target audience.
I also play games usually only 3-5 years later.

[radiant river]

Then you probably wouldn't spend 60 either

[still basin]

60 for a game with a lot of hours or replaybility? Sure, 60 was the standard for a long time.

Idk why you'd be in favor of a higher cost

[queen jungle]

Hunt Showdown hasn't been $60 ever I think.

[still basin]

Hunt is an amazing value at 40

[queen jungle]

Yeah and during steam sales it's $15 right now.

[still basin]

The skins themselves though are recently a bit to pricey

Thats my only complaint

And I never railed against anything or anyone I simply said they'd sell more skins if they were priced to be more accessible to everyone. Just for the record lol.

[queen jungle]

Other game companies offer a similar price though.

[crystal plume]

More expensive generally from what I've seen

And this DLC essentially contains 2 hunter skins which take more work than weapon skins from what I've heard

Most recent previous DLCs only contained one

[glacial rose]

@unborn sandalnot the same at all... the new skin the head covers the entire hit box with space around on all sides. It's not just a hat or an attachment to the head.

[unborn sandal]

My advice still holds true. Aim above the center of the shoulders and the head goes squish

[glacial rose]

That's pretty dumb advice tbh... I have a replay where I shot at a guy that was profile to me and clearly shot him in the face... no hit marker...

the damn thing is so big that the hitbox is prob 2/3's the total volume of the skin

[tawny meadow]

Care to share said clip?

[iron trench]

@unborn sandal Today, my friend.. the Serpent buff is coming today

[slim blade]

@astral root Just press Esc to skip the Dark Tribute animation. I was two days ago old when I learned this, before that I waited patiently as my hunter cut their hand. The bullet dropping animation is too long to suffer through so I looked around for a way to skip it.

[tribal wyvern]

@vast geyser
I don't get your argument. It's bad, that a game on SALE is equally expensive as a dlc?
You do realise theres tons of games cheaper than 15euro, Is that bad to for the dlc?

Doesn't make much sense here.

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[limpid bolt]

Are people really complaining about DLC prices? For real?

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[limpid bolt]

Imagine complaining about something you're not forced to buy, and that is cosmetics only

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[lost jetty]

does any boddy else have problems with hunt crashing after the event update

[marble anvil]

Like, everyone?

Check out the #latest-update-discussion

[sick anvil]

yes , look in to latest update they set 5 minute slow mode on that to keep people from typing crashing every five seconds

[lyric jacinth]

any chance of getting a refund on the battle pass if the game is unplayable ?

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[lost jetty]

k thank

[safe latch]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/594650/discussions/8/3734078012131773592/

what`s happened ?

[hexed panther]

nice hotfix lol fkd the event sideways

[sick anvil]

I doubt that will be happening

[brisk obsidian]

do you have less than 2 hours on steam

[hardy coral]

The game will work in due time.

[fallen wyvern]

EVENT GONE

[signal mural]

Same. I verified all my files and the Event stuff is now different... but at least it isn't auto crashing.

[hardy coral]

Really quick fix, it's all good now

[night fog]

remove shotguns from Quickplay. I don't want to be force to use shotguns just to win.

And remove the Lighthouse next to Ironworks as a end spot.

[worthy knoll]

Question: so the krak only has 124 dmg? And less spare ammo than other Long Ammo rifles?
Into the Trash it goes i guess...

[terse gull]

The new DLC prices going sky high for some reason is something no one likes honestly

[tight delta]

I don't get how people are so upset about other people being upset about increased DLC prices 👀

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[limpid umbra]

Did they scrap self revive, or am i dumb dumb and cant see it

I am dumb dumb

[sterile yarrow]

Hello just wanted to give my opinion on the new krag added to the game and how I'm a little disappointed with its performance. To start the ammo capacity is the lowest of all the bolt action rifles in the game being at 11 when all the others have 15 at minimum, secondly it does the least damage of all the bolt action rifles at 124 and its even less than the Cladwell conversion uppercut which is at 126. For a rifle I feel it serverly under preforms compart to its counterparts in the same range. And this was a gun I was hopping would be added.

[worthy knoll]

Agree completly. A pistol doing more dmg is stupid and having even less ammo even more so...

[blissful birch]

Mate, nobodies telling you to bring it in, take a uppercut instead if you care about damage, its buffs aren't its damage its the reload time and fire rate, its a good medium level rifle and can't wait to try it along with all the new weapons

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[limpid umbra]

hes simply expressing how disappointing it is

Couldnt agree more

[cedar olive]

I just lost a character because I spent too long waiting to load into a game, is there anything that can be done to fix that?

[dry vortex]

@cedar olive Nope, Nothing. You having fun yet? Reconnect Feature working as intended. I have lost dozens of hunters, Thousands on Hunt dollars due to the reconnect Feature no Working Properly. Theres nothing that you can do.

[onyx urchin]

Menu locks up after getting a booster. It's happened to me twice now and requires an alt+f4 closure to fix.

[royal horizon]

@tranquil hill Not only does the Krag do a measly 124 to the body, which is pathetic, and even more so for a long ammo rifle. But is has 4 less bullets in reserve as the other long ammo bois (the Berthier, Mosin, and Lebel have 15 ammo total). The Uppercut does 125 damage to the body and even it has 15 max bullets even though it's a pistol. And all of this for what ? Not requiring Bulletgrubber and having a "fast fire rate". It's a damn shame

[modern trail]

Where can i find the latest patchnotes?

[royal horizon]

there are none. It's apprently stuff "not for us" or whatever. Thanks Crytek for the detailed changelog :)

[modern trail]

Is ittrue that Sniper now have mirroring?

[royal horizon]

mirroring ?

what

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[tranquil hill]

@royal horizon yes right. Its the worst long ammo weapon sadly.

And way to expensive

[sharp veldt]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/594650/view/3653012651444144266

[sharp veldt]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/594650/view/3653012651444144266

Here's your detailed change log 🙂

[modern trail]

Thank u

[queen jungle]

@steel coral Please use this channel if you want to comment on or discuss a post made in #feedback and keep that channel for feedback posts only.

[crystal plume]

@spare summit Same with you ^

Also Militant I hate to break it to you but the logo of the game literally has an upside down cross on it and it's pretty obvious from all the trailers and such that there's some essentially demonic stuff going on, if that's not something that you can deal with then you shouldn't forcibly expose yourself to the game

[steel coral]

That's the weakest excuse i have encountered yet. It's a valid objection.

It's not acceptable that you play with symbology and even a robed clergy of a faith of billions of people with such irreverence. You wouldn't do that for any other religion.

[crystal plume]

In lore the revenant is literally already a hellspawn since he turned into an immolator

[steel coral]

If you already put a priest in the game, fine, i actually enjoy the character in the context of the game. But you can't make him pledge to a cult beside being a priest.

[crystal plume]

In lore quickplay is essentially the purgatory and you have to essentially murder others to find salvation

In lore to get darksight you have to spawn some kind of a demon or whatever to get fluid from it for a ritual you have to take

There's always been almost "satanic" story elements and such in the game

[steel coral]

that doesn't matter

[spare summit]

my bad, just replied and didn't really check what channel I was in 🙂

[steel coral]

The game can be as satanic as anything, that's not the aspect i'm offended by.

[spare summit]

i just can't

[inner loom]

You really are militant.
Also, the pacts aren't cults.
They're loose alliances.

[crystal plume]

The priest being part of a pact is not different from him already pledging himself to the hunter association and going through the ritual to get the darksight powers

[steel coral]

i already said i enjoy the fact a priest is in the context of the game but there's a moral line you cross when you take the clergy of a religion and align him with a cult

i don't know how to make you understand that, it's a serious matter, speaking as an adult who enjoys the game, who doesnt' mind penny fiction like this i have a line that's crossed when the clergy of my faith is literally perverted like that

i don't find that acceptable and i don't find it right that you don't treat this with a degree of serious consideration

it's not like i demand you rewrite the lore of the entire game

all you'd need to do is take the affiliation off him and give it to a different character

i don't think that's too much to ask

[crystal plume]

But you could still make the pact with him? Only difference would be that you could choose, which I wouldn't mind in general for all legendary hunters

[steel coral]

yes, that is an adult assumption

and whoever makes that choice makes it for themselves

i want to make it clear, i'm not trolling here...i am of faith, i am a practicing Christian

otherwise i wouldn't sit here wasting everyone's time

[sharp veldt]

In the lore, he is helping Kevin and is aligned to that group. That won't change.

He's on "the good guys" in this "battle" so I'm not seeing a problem myself.

It's not like he's on the "bad guys" team

[steel coral]

i resent that, please someone moderate that

[steel coral]

i want to avoid going on a theological TED talk here, but when you're a Christian, you pledge the Lord's apostolic creed and confession, you can't have a clergy pledge anything other than that

[half stag]

damn, he's still on this? can't please everyone is all I'll say

[steel coral]

All i ask is to just please remove that affiliation tag

[sharp veldt]

That's all fine for the real world, but it's a game, and The Reverend is committed to helping Kevin's cause.

[modern trail]

@sharp veldt any other Link for the Patch notes? I dont have Steam. 🤔

[sharp veldt]

you can read them on steam on a browser

[modern trail]

No, i have to sign in cause the Game is 18+

[sharp veldt]

There is a blog that is similar (but not as detailed) here: https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/hunt-showdown-devil-s-moon-live-event

[tawny meadow]

Being the Reverend a character in a videogame with fictional exploits, i don't think he must be taken as an example for christian religion. He probably got down to some compromise to reach his goals.

[steel coral]

I'm not asking you to rewrite the lore, just changing a little icon on a character. That's the extent of my expectations.

[sharp veldt]

I am letting you know that it won't happen. I am sorry it bothers you, and wish that it did not. But it will not change.

[crystal plume]

The little icon is part of the lore as Kevin is part of the lunar pact and he's helping his cause

[inner loom]

Saying the demands are unreasonable is putting it lightly.
The mods are having a great deal of patience with you.
You're at a big privilege here.
Don't stretch yourself thin.

[tawny meadow]

Just don't take him as a priest, but more of a fallen figure.

[steel coral]

I can tell i'm not reaching anything here, i find that very disappointing.

[tight delta]

Characters in works of fiction might not follow your understanding of a religion, even if they are or were a man of faith.

Why does your worldview need extra protecting?

[crystal plume]

I don't think that this conversation is going to go anywhere productive anywhere

So better to stop it right here

[half stag]

or any form of censorship cough

[spare summit]

it's so hard to.... must contain...

[tawny meadow]

Then do contain yourself. The discussion ends here.

[chilly wren]

glad you liked it 🙂

[tight delta]

I wish we had Threads enabled on this server so I could know which suggestion you're talking about 😅

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[cursive jewel]

Maybe you need to find a new game militant rofl

[modern trail]

why is there a sniper reflection now in the game??? thats the worst!

[vital drum]

Sniper reflection?

[modern trail]

yes, there are now red dots from snipers if u see them far away

[crystal plume]

Do you happen to have a clip or a screenshot of it? I haven't seen that yet

[modern trail]

not yet, i will clip it next time, but saw it 3 times in a row

[tawny meadow]

@weak bridge “The Inferno” brings map-changing fire to the Bayou on certain days throughout the event. It will be announced when it will be on.

[weak bridge]

oh I mean the immolator

[tawny meadow]

Oh weird

unlucky

[proven portal]

Got perma stuck in some trees towards the outer edges of the map... lost the game cuz of it, F this game

[tulip lily]

@waxen lava They cant make 4 people squads cuz the revives would be awful

[tulip lily]

GOD BLESS 🙏 Snipers were so fucking annoying before... Dying to a single pixel 300m away in a forest is not fun.

[unborn dagger]

Hope that isn't true, I don't main snipers but sniper glints shouldn't be in Hunt

[lean estuary]

The Reverend is a character, who can be written to behave in a way that’s different than how you yourself would behave in the same situation. It’s fiction.

[crystal plume]

A reminder that we already asked to move on from the religion topic, it's a forbidden topic as per the rules of our server.

[lean estuary]

Got it, sorry

I’m always more concerned with how much the Reverend can overhead press….those shoulders are massive

[cursive jewel]

Yikes.

[white oasis]

@ashen girder the funny thing about your booster suggestion is that...
event points are useless since weeklies give more than the needed 50k by themselves

[cursive jewel]

Assuming that people who work full time jobs or have families on top of it have the ability to play that long consistently, which is the whole point of helping them out with that.

[still basin]

I bought extra event points and ill buy more. I work 48 hrs a week and have 2 kids lol

[cursive jewel]

Yeah, lots of people seem to think that because they can play for 40 hours a week, everyone else should have to do the same to complete the barest minimum of the event

[astral root]

omg, this saves me so much time, thx

[unborn sandal]

@meager birch Teaming in any game mode is allowed as long as you meet them in game and are using voip/text chat to communicate

[meager birch]

I’m aware lmao

I made that suggestion as a shitpost

[shy crescent]

Today I saw everything: windows screen, blue screen, black screen but didn’t see fire 🙂

[tawny meadow]

Those are not active yet. Their activation will be announced soon ™️

[stray horizon]

oh damn I was hoping they would put it in rotation as a weather

so like is it going to be all day every map is like that then?

[tawny meadow]

Dunno if it will be in rotation or for a period we will have just those, we'll see

[crystal plume]

@tender sphinx How are those 2 things related? Genuinely curious

If anything the grounded pact has made people finally do more daring plays in my matches

And it has allowed me to do the same

Could it be used to wait the entire match without losing your hunter, sure, but why would you do that?

Only situation I can picture is sitting with a bounty inside, but that happens anyways and it's honestly not smart of them when they can attempt to make that push without losing their hunters so if anything even in those situations it still encourages to do the opposite of camping

[tender sphinx]

@crystal plume Because, People can now just sit and camp.. and still get their hunter - regardless of timers/death... How is that not making it easier to camp? Crytek themselves said they were working on things to combat camping... the beetle was one of them... again, related to camping.

[crystal plume]

But it happened already before and if anything they are now encouraged to do the opposite since they can attempt to make that push outside with the bounty or whatever without losing their hunter? Since the main reason they camp in the first place is their fear of losing hunter

If you play super careful with death cheat active, you are literally wasting your own time

[cursive jewel]

People camp to avoid lowering their KDA because its all they care about. Keeping the hunter for another day > Lowering their precious ratio by .01

[shy crescent]

Didn’t they said “release day, then randomly”?

[tawny meadow]

I quote from the patch notes: "On select days during the event “The Inferno” will be unleashed to set parts of the maps on fire"

[half stag]

@tulip lily https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDlTFoFNxsc

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[limpid umbra]

@tender sphinx just leave the game

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[normal horizon]

@willow crow it is only on select days, which isn't yet

[slate carbon]

You Just save your Hunter If you still have coins. Afer using ther perk you need 2 new coins or the perk doesnt work

[tribal wyvern]

*1

The minimum for the first trait is just 1.

[tribal wyvern]

@unborn sandal
Just ignore it or reroll it. It's optional challenge, the last one is meant to be challenging.

[worthy knoll]

Grounded Path Best Path imo

[willow igloo]

why limit one of the biggest new features you were pushing like that?

[rotund oasis]

#game-ideas message
@inland forge The hunters that are pre-pledged to a pact already have access to the modified traits Necromancer, Resilience and Salveskin though. They already have something others don't before pledging.

[queen jungle]

@edgy mirage Elo-decay after not having played for some time is already in the game, though I'm not sure at which rate it occurs.

@willow crow The new time of day is not active yet. As the Steam announcement states, it will be active on "select days" of the event. There is no ETA yet, but keep your eyes on our announcement channels for any updates. 🙂

[supple osprey]

What's up with EU server? Whole day I haven't been able to connect there. Only US East/West.
Trying to connect from Ukraine, if this helps to answer

[tight delta]

Does tracert utility reach, say, ded116-lv-lw-eu.huntshowdown.com server?

[supple osprey]

It didn't appear to me as active in game menu, just 0 ping red button

[tight delta]

If you run "CMD" (Win + R, type "cmd" and hit enter) and run tracert ded116-lv-lw-eu.huntshowdown.com.

Might help in pinpointing where the issue is.

[supple osprey]

Kk, thanks

[knotty ore]

How do you justify removing summons and replacing them with something that doesn't give you hunt dollars? Am I missing something? This would severely nerf new player's ability to make money. I used to make like 2k+ a cycle easy in dollars and weapons.

This may not affect people who have like 300k banked, but it certainly affects new player's ability to afford better weapons.

[finite yarrow]

fix your servers! 5:30 p.m. and they start to lag hard again while ingame fps/ping doesnt notice it!

[edgy mirage]

Thank you for answering. Sorry for bothering you then :p I had assumed I would have fallen a bit after a few month, but I guess it wasn't enough.

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[limpid umbra]

@willow crow totally agree

[unborn dagger]

@edgy mirage I thought the devs said that there was MMR decay but so far that isn't the case after not playing for a couple of months

[queen jungle]

delete fog maps.

Keep the fire concept instead 😄

[unborn dagger]

Dude honestly, I'd be down for a map concept with fire everywhere.

With smoke covering the skies, embers floating around with an orange hue

[chilly wren]

@pearl summit Have you tried windowed Fullscreen? it basically works like fullscreen except you can alt-tab and it doesnt remove the FPS cap

[pearl summit]

yes, im playing on windowed fullscreen

[chilly wren]

oh you play with unlimited FPS setting, nevermind then

[muted star]

If they added fire maybe they will make rain/snow rounds

[pearl summit]

limited to 120

[inland forge]

A trait they don’t come with out of the box. I’ve tried. You handicap yourself while having a slim chance for your guy to spawn with the correct trait in his three rolls.

Plus them not coming actually pledged is counter intuitive.

[rotund oasis]

It's good though. Legendary hunters shouldn't come with a guaranteed trait for the event. That'd be a disadvantage for people who don't want to open their wallet to buy extra BB.

[hardy coral]

@austere stone That's already the case, just select the weapon first then hover over the relevant special ammo.

[austere stone]

But not in armoury, so you can't do it if you don't have the weapon unlocked

[hardy coral]

Yeah you can

Just click on the weapon in the armoury first then hover over the special ammo, the stats change to show you the difference.

Like if you were comparing any two guns there.

[tulip lily]

@fallow gale i know it was 6 days ago but there is a upscaling option for lower ends. at the top of graphics it is called Render Scale i believe

[fallow gale]

I'm pretty sure that isn't the same, upscaling takes the lower resolution and somehow retains the quality (I have no clue how that shit works). The render scale doesn't do that and just makes it blurry.

[obsidian egret]

the mmr is bugged and don't change

[swift wave]

Self revival is so broken and not needed

[steel summit]

Why not add the inferno as a chance to get in the map role, cause not gonna lie that was the main draw to this event for some and it’s not even here on launch

Then it’s gonna be for a day then take it out, just saying I think a lot of us would like it if the inferno was permanently here for the event

[orchid wadi]

so there is a partical effect when a hunter uses one of the pledged traits. anyone know if that can be seen on lower graphic settings?

[unborn dagger]

Elaborate

[still basin]

I mean its kind of in the name lol. Self revive is kind of nuts. On the other hand....solos needed some love.

[unborn dagger]

You can literally burn, concertina bomb, trap, double trap even and still manage to kill them. And they only have one shot at reviving themselves

[limber meadow]

God the game is in need of a new map and boss something bad

Like a NW based map with pines and higher deserts would be cool, or a Utah based map with cool rock areas and Plato’s

[vivid flame]

^

[steel summit]

I agree this game needs some real new content not guns or some cool mechanic we want new places and enemies maybe new things in the map to worry about like wild life or just some new stuff that isn’t meta changing just want some new things to look at also the battle pass system needs a serious rework for points cause it still takes a long ass time especially as a solo

[unborn dagger]

I'm more interested in new enemies, maps? Not so much. I'm fine with the devs just reworking the ones we already have.

[unborn sandal]

@willow gulch Until this does get fixed I’ve found that closing and reopening the game will get you in within 3 minutes every time

[knotty ore]

Reduce the game timer to 25min. If the bounty team doesn't extract by then the game still goes on, but they get nothing. The bounty just disappears. We need to force the people with the massive advantage to make plays. Not camp the bounty house for 45minutes.

You need to decide who has the ball. If the entry team has the ball, you need to give them tools to succeed. Flash beetle, or anything that can actually clear campers.

[orchid wadi]

Using the grounded traits and the timer runs out, is hunter lost?

[hidden dock]

Im getting 99% GPU usage while on the game menu

What's up with that?

Makes my pc overheat like crazy and it has only been happening after the last update

[raven knoll]

why can i not help my teammates with the challanges? like, im fighting my own teammates for hives and boss banishes, its way more fun when we can help eachother and coordinate

[limber meadow]

If you hate camps there are builds for that. Heck I have run only big TNT boundles and cleared entire buildings before. Or bows with the bomb arows.

[limber meadow]

You can, team kills should count towards what you need(as long as they are using the right amo ect).

[raven knoll]

before the against hunters quests wouldnt work but vs AI would stack, and my teammate banished a boss but i didnt get my challange, and i was killing hives with throwing knives and i got the credit for my own quest but my team mate didnt get any of the credit for his

[limber meadow]

The last definitly should have counted, probably a bug.

The other two (-.-)/

[raven knoll]

none of them all evening have been stacking for me, like 6 different challanges

[limber meadow]

I have had allies banish and it count before I want to say though

Do damage ones no.

[raven knoll]

according to everything im reading it should count but it was every time it didnt work

[limber meadow]

But ones like kill X hunters in one match is a team one for sure

[raven knoll]

i know the like do x damage to hunters with whatever didnt stack before, which is also lame and i dont like, but at least i was expecting those to not stack

[knotty ore]

No matter what you do, you are at a disadvantage pushing buildings for like 300 different, very obvious, reasons. The clear incentive is to extract, that's why they literally give you 5 seconds of wallhacks.

For most people it doesn't make sense to breach under standard circumstances other than to just have fun. Its always a better play to wait if you are trying to win.

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[worthy knoll]

You should get it Back

@vivid trail absolutely agree, dont know why so Many downvotes.
A Long Ammo rifle should not do less damage then a Pistol (Uppercut)

[queen jungle]

Personally I think long ammo needs a nerf in general. So hopefully the Krag is a first step.

[unborn smelt]

Have you thought about how op it'd be with 125+ dmg ?

This thibg shoots faster than the vetterli - 43 Rpm! Needs no bulletgruvber, reloads super fast

[worthy knoll]

First; Uppercut needs to get 124 dmg

After that we can Talk about the Krak

Second:
Either it needs 125 damage OR more spare ammo

Its either a spammy Long Ammo gun or a new reload without Bullergruber.

Right now its weak for a Long Ammo rifle while Not having the ammo to Profit from the high fire Rate. Since the ammo resupply is almost at Lebel Levels.

And Dont Tell me about "taking a Sparks Pistol". A Gun should be balanced in itself and Work in its own.

[worthy knoll]

Yes and as @vivid trail has Pointed out: inside a compound a is vetterli better and only slightly slower (for a third of the price!)
And outside you want a real gun Like Lebel.

Edit: counterargument against Penetration. Yes the krak has better Penetration but Not enough ammo to really Wallbang for luck. The vetterli does and With FMJ this all becomes neglible while only costing half the price of the krak

[stray horizon]

@rare tide wait what the fuck it's on sale all of a sudden are you for real? that's bullshit I literally just bought it yesterday

[rare tide]

Yeah...

[rare tide]

I understand if it's 3-4 weeks later, but it's only 3 days....

[stray horizon]

yeah that kind of really pisses me off

why would you not put it on sale right at the start of the event then

wait is it a sale on the regular battle pass or only the premium one

[rare tide]

The premium one

[stray horizon]

oh I did not buy that one so I feel better but that is definitely still total bullshit for y'all who did buy that one

[inner loom]

The premium pass was on 'sale' right away.
It's only the news section of the client that broke. Pricing hadn't changed from what I've seen.

[royal horizon]

Yeah, it was on sale from the start. It's just that the news feed was broken for some reason

[agile basalt]

Yup, I bought it day one, was always on sale

[hardy coral]

Krag is fine, at most it should have 8 or 9 in reserve so you don't always need to bring an uppercut or sparks pistol.
Also the vetterli is not better than the cent, the cent fires quite a bit faster with a much higher muzzle velocity with even FMJ. If anything the vetterli needs a buff.

[royal horizon]

I think the Krag should either get the 125 dmg or a little more reserve ammo

[hardy coral]

Getting 125 defeats the point

It's the strongest for follow up shots so you pay the price by losing the 1 shot kill on already downed hunters. Remember that the damage persists to 40 metres before fall off.

[maiden pelican]

Can't 1 shot hunters to the gut if they even lost a 50 by the way

[hardy coral]

It's the same tradeoff for centennial against the vetterli, but it also gets much better vision for follow up shots and way higher velocity so imo makes it obsolete. Krag competes well against the existing long ammo rifles.

[worthy knoll]

Nah Not convinced. Most people Here are Not living aimbots. Die those the Krak Rules.
But of you make 3 headshots in 15 Seconds you probably dont need Long Ammo anyway.
The centennial is rarely picked for a reason. Again its a good headclicker, but If you Lack this consistency in Skill it sucks.

But on one Thing I agree. Vetterli Buff ❤️

Furthermore I consider that the Uppercut needs its damage nerfed

(Call me Cato because I will emd every Post With this)

[hardy coral]

Dude, centennial is a bodyshot machine too.

Has anyone even used the buffed cent with FMJ?

[unborn smelt]

Yes - if youd rather take one of the other two thats fine...

But the Krag still competes with a vetterli in compounds over 26m but outperforms the vetterli on range because of long ammo velocity, range and pen.

With 125 dmg it'd by far outperform a mosin by matching the ability to kill a 125 hp hunter all the way to 40m but having a nearly 25% faster Rof at 43 Rpm... a really fast reload that doesnt need the gun to be shot empty, no need for bulletgrubber

[worthy knoll]

Yes and i still cannot Trust it. The Times Somebody survived With 2 HP Just to Headshot me have "broken my Heart too Many Times"

Furthermore I consider that the Uppercut needs its damage nerfed.

[hardy coral]

Just give it some more reserve so you don't need to pair it with a long ammo sidearm. The damage is fine, maybe even reduce it to 123 for luls

Just make it the standard 15 shots the other long ammo bolt actions get.

Uppercut should be 124 damage and a bit cheaper

[royal horizon]

Yes ! More ammo for the Krag (same as the other long ammo bois) and cheaper Uppercut

[worthy knoll]

Perferably With Just 120 damage 😉

Furthermore I consider that the Uppercut needs its damage nerfed.

Lets Switch topics?

Imho the only real valuable pact (except maybe in wildfire days) is the Grounded pact.
Grounded FTW

(Does anyone know what they are lore-wise?)

Furthermore I consider that the Uppercut needs its damage nerfed.

[royal horizon]

Grounded is busted, with teams or in solo

it doesn't consume a lot of marks, and its traits are actually worth the hassle compared to Lunar's

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[worthy knoll]

Its perfect where it is and needs no Change!!

I'd rather See the other two buffed.

Infernal is Trash and Luna... Well If you really clutch a Lot.. but Grounded is what Hunt was Missing. A Kind of insurance.

[drifting vortex]

NOPE NOPE NOPE

I7 11th gen 3060.

20fps with the fire on screen....

Lost a firefight straight away coz it was playing in slow mo.

I average 100fps usually

This is gonna be rough

[unborn smelt]

Meh that is debatable - the other two are just "trash" because grounded is so much better.

We're literally calling not loosing a bar on death trash because grounded is so good.

What i think makes grounded so good, is that ther's nothing taking away marks during the actual game. As soon as you get just one mark you're guaranteed your hunter back on death.

Where as with lunar - one death, you get that bar back but then loose all marks and your traits both go inactive for the rest of the match.
And with infernal you loose one mark for every bar burnt off, so as soon as one bar was saved your 4 marks trait goes offline.

And then there's the additional trait effects - healing burnt HP faster and getting revived full instead of at 100 are nice - but nowhere near as gamechanging as a heccing selfrevive for solo's

[little badger]

Hi
Crytek
my opinion to the Inferno....
is too hard too see anything , the fire is too loud , i can hear shit , for me another reason to leave that map when is on the map, with a sniper loadout ,
i am play most of my playtime solo sniper , u have so much problems to see in fog , by night and now we have another scenario where i facked up when i play sniper.. not funny
i think i will quit this game , is too many random modifier on these map scenarios , back in the day we had a fix contract , i wish that is still there ..... plz
great job crytek (not)

[drifting vortex]

Can't just be me having the totally unplayable fps drops?

I just had a match where two teams met out in the open and shot at each other with no cover for a solid 2 minutes without any hits...

Like we are literally playing in slow motion.. you can't aim...

[gleaming kestrel]

no issues here

[worthy knoll]

yes on other circumstances Luna would be great, but right now i say only trios who clutch every fight till the end. For the average 3-3.5 Star player grounded is best. If you do not have a spawn fight you can gather the 35 points and then have your hunter back.

I think Luna and Inferno needs a little buff, thats all.

[unborn smelt]

yeah the always getting hunters back can be seen good or bad

I personally am not a huge fan of it

I like that getting a hunter back is an option, but i don't think it should be this easy

that's why IMO getting your hunter back should be a 4 marks trait

[worthy knoll]

For me its what makes this Event really Fun, no grinding forever. Getting Hunters back etc. Its great.

[unborn smelt]

you could still get it every second match if you go for it

but not on every round

[worthy knoll]

disagree, make the other pacts better instead. Do not take away the beauty of grounded. Why should everything be "shit" when everything can be good? Make it an interesting choice what to take instead of "I am not a living aimbot so grounded it is".

For example, lets the Luna thing take away ONE pledge mark not two, or one for 25 so if you losse 50 and have a mark you get back with 125 but if you have two you get the full 50 back. Not loose every mark.

No idea for infernal though... Maybe one pledge mark makes you immune to world fire or something but meh...

[unborn smelt]

well i don't think that everything else is shit - i personally disagree that getting your hunter back every match should be the baseline of balance the other two should be brought up to

For me a small nerf to that one specifically and potential small buffs to the rest would be the sweet spot

the luna thing right now takes all pledgemarks on your first death - not just two

just taking two would already be the buffed version

[worthy knoll]

that was my suggestion for a buff

But we have to agree to disagree. Grounded Path has brought me a lot of fun and made me push more often since at least I can play with a hunter with doctor etc. again. Therefore every Nerf to it would make me lose fun.

Furthermore I consider that the Uppercut needs its damage nerfed.

[unborn smelt]

yeah but since you specifically mention doctor - i think that's the base issue

there are a few absolute must have traits that are just too good

Doc is the very obvious one, and the biggest offender IMO