#Hello all! I've been using google's

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timber tree
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  1. You want the Assistant SDK integration
  2. There's custom integrations for many things, including those
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radiant blade
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awesome, thank you kindly

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this can also be used to control other devices that can be controlled by google home but not by home assistant, like wyze light strip, correct?

timber tree
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Well, sort of

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You don't get any entity in HA to use

radiant blade
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i'm sorry i don't quite understand what you mean by "entity to use"? could i not create an automation in HA to send the google assistant command "set stair lights to red"?

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and since the stair lights (wyze) are already setup in google home, it would execute the command vai google assistant integration?

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actually from reading what you linked it apepars to do exactly what i was asking.

This integration allows:
Sending text commands to Google Assistant to control devices supported by Google Assistant but not by Home Assistant.

timber tree
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The point of HA is that it abstracts away how things connect to HA, so you can interact with your Zigbee LED strip the same as your Tuya cloud based strip, or a WLED strip

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They're all lights

radiant blade
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oh i get that, and eventually i will replace it. i'm just looking for out of the box resolution for right now so once i get my HA green i don't have to go and buy all new stuff to get back to the point i was. I plan on replacing the light strip eventually with a Hue light strip, as i will be going the hue route for my light bulbs

timber tree
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Do yourself a favour then, don't use the Hue hub 😉

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You can buy a #zigbee-archived coordinator and have 100% local control that doesn't require you to sign up to some cloud data harvesting service

radiant blade
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i will definitely take that into consideration. i will do some research on the pros and cons of it, as it would not just be for me. my whole family would be using

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thank you though for the suggestion 😄

timber tree
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You can use DIYHue to allow them to use the Hue app, while actually talking to HA and non-Hue devices

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Or expose everything to Google and use the GHome app

radiant blade
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ok understood

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question: if i install the diyhue as a HA addon on the HA green, would i still need a hub like the hue hub or your aforementioned zigbee coordinator?

timber tree
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You'd just need a coordinator, that replaces the hub

radiant blade
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ok understood.

timber tree
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Almost always you don't want a hub with HA - they usually limit what you can use and often you're at the mercy of the manufacturer not closing down access

radiant blade
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ok last question for you: could you recommend a button that works with home assist? i'd like to keep a button on my desk that i can press for when i get a work call. pressing it would change the color of certain lights

timber tree
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Aqara do some great #zigbee-archived buttons, I've got a stack of them around the house

radiant blade
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and they would work with the zigbee coordinator?

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so i wouldn't have to buy the aqara hub?

timber tree
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Again, no hubs 😉

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All my stuff is here, you'll note a lack of hubs

radiant blade
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would the zigbee coordinator plug directly into the HA green?

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sorry for all the newb questions. HA is brand new to me

timber tree
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Yes, or into your network

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There are network connected coordinators

radiant blade
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understood

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would i be better off plugging the coordinator into the green or into my router's usb port? or does it even matter? i just looked and it doesn't appear that my router (ASUS ZenWifi AX XT8) doesn't have POE so that wouldn't be a viable option

timber tree
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Well, the Yellow

vital tendon
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Not sure why you would plug it into the router's usb port?

timber tree
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How would HA talk to the stick if you plugged it into the router?

radiant blade
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how would it talk to it if it was plugged in via POE? i thought you were saying POE from the router or a switch ,and it would talk over the LAN?

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sorry if i misunderstood

timber tree
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POE coordinators have a network interface

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So you'd talk to it over the network, because it can

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USB sticks don't have network interfaces

radiant blade
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ok but USB ones do not, understood

timber tree
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For ZHA, that's fine

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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

timber tree
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(it's about the only thing Sonoff and Zigbee that's fine)

radiant blade
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which one would you get?

timber tree
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For ZHA, buy that one

radiant blade
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haven't purchased yet so i'm definitely open to recommendations

timber tree
radiant blade
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sorry i'm not quite understanding what you mean by ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT. i understand they are different setups, but do i have to choose one? is one better than the other?

timber tree
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Yes, you have to choose one - you don't run both at the same time

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Better ... not really, they're just different ways of doing things

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ZHA is part of HA, so one less thing to manage

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Z2M has better device support

radiant blade
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ok awesome, i'll go the ZHA route

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i think i'm good for now. you have been amazing helping me and answering all my questions. is there any way to give you kudos or something equivelant?

timber tree
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Nah, you're good - we're here to help

radiant blade
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well you're not only "the man", you also play him on TV!

radiant blade
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@timber tree Ahoy hoy again! So I got the zigbee coordinator, plugged it into my HA Green, and added it under devices. now, how do i go about adding a zigbee device to HA using the coordinator from within HA?

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timber tree
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See the docs 😉

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and should you need further help the people in #zigbee-archived can help you as long as you tell them you're using ZHA