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frank gale
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has dns host and super logs

humble mirage
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Hopefully somebody can decode that lot and help you

frank gale
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yeh thx

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le me try chatgpt first lol

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lol

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The logs you've provided show various normal informational messages and some errors. Notably, there's an error related to a missing Docker image for an SSH add-on, and a series of DNS errors indicating timeouts.

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dns errors???

humble mirage
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Yeah, there's some ongoing DNS related oddness with HAOS

frank gale
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its there a way to fix it

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is*

humble mirage
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No idea, but somebody else will know

frank gale
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alright back to chatgpt then lol

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before i let u go whats the command to manually change the dnds to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

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using frotend is prefferd 🙂

humble mirage
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ha dns

frank gale
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thank you

placid sage
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Hello all - I had to disconnect my router etc at home, which meant my home assistant (on raspberry pi 4) was disconnected. I put it all back together - I get net work lights. And I still get messages from my home assistant - but I can’t access it. Not through the local address or app. What do I need to do? Thanks a lot for any help

humble mirage
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Possibly the IP changed

placid sage
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I suspect it has. But surely the local address would still work no problem?

tender wren
frank gale
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I love you

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Ima try that now

faint dust
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It seems that some Python 3 process crashes hard:

Nov 30 18:51:33 homeassistant kernel: python3[3531]: segfault at 28 ip 00007fe6284dc8b0 sp 00007fe61caf3980 error 4 in libpython3.11.so.1.0[7fe62832a000+24d000] likely on CPU 3 (core 3, socket 0)
Nov 30 18:51:33 homeassistant kernel: Code: c7 38 02 00 00 e8 c0 01 00 00 48 89 d8 5b c3 66 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 41 56 be 68 01 00 00 41 55 41 54 55 48 89 fd 53 <4c> 8b 6f 28 bf 01 00 00 00 e8 42 bb ff ff 49 89 c4 48 85 c0 0f 84
Nov 30 18:51:33 homeassistant kernel: audit: type=1701 audit(1701370293.989:501): auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 ses=4294967295 subj=unconfined pid=2929 comm="python3" exe="/usr/local/bin/python3.11" sig=11 res=1
Nov 30 18:51:38 homeassistant systemd[1]: Created slice Slice /system/systemd-coredump.
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There is also an isssue with the SSH add-on:

23-11-30 21:25:05 ERROR (SyncWorker_3) [supervisor.docker.manager] Image ghcr.io/hassio-addons/ssh/amd64:16.0.1 does not exist for addon_a0d7b954_ssh
23-11-30 21:25:06 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new suggestion execute_repair - addon / a0d7b954_ssh
23-11-30 21:25:06 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue missing_image - addon / a0d7b954_ssh
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@frank gale I think I'd try to uninstall and install the SSH add-on again. But maybe there is more broken on your system. What hardware are you running on?

frank gale
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It's running on a mini pc but I tried it on a latte panda v1 too still didn't work all with fresh installations

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Latte panda is a small board computer it's got 2gb of ram and a intel CPU unsure prbly intel atom

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The other one I tried is a compulab pc4 with AMD CPU and 5gb ram

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I also tried it on my main pc with a intel i5 32gb ram and a gtx 1080 ti

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All is booting from a Kingston data travaler 128gb ssd

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Correction usb

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And for the SSH add-on it not just that add-on it's every add-on i try to install

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I ruled out os bugs hardware usb stick but what I haven't done is my local internet as the other guy said could this python crash happen because at the first time the os boots it has to install other dependices so if it fails to connect to the internet because of the DNS then it would crash the python because the file cannot be found this is just my theory please correct me if I'm wrong

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Feel free to ping me

faint dust
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@frank gale a segfault in Python (libpython3.11.so.1.0) points to a hard crash, caused by a buggy Python interpreter or broken hardware, or a CPU running too hot. I haven't seen a segfault with the latest Supervisor, so I would more guess that something is wrong with the hardware you are running on.

frank gale
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But I tried it on 3 different computers

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1 of which is water cooled

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Also to note that the docker application container engine takes 30 mins to start

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Even then the waring message home assistant cli nnot starting entering emergency console comes up

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And then the supervisor reports it's not ready with state setup

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I have to type login in the emergency console

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And banner on the setup error

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To make it work

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Maybe I should create another fresh install and directly put it into my main computer should I try that

faint dust
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Yeah hard to tell why/what did not work in your first attempts. The cli not starting on first start is not problematic per se, it could be that the system downloads things from the internet and waits until things are complete.

frank gale
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Should I try and boot it without connecting it to ethernet or WiFi

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The thing I had ha before in 2022 then I stopped and then I started again in 2023 And the only that could have changed it software updates so I'm just going to downgrade core and supervisor down to 2022

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I know the command for core

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Could some one tell me how to downgrade supervisor please thankyou

stray lily
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Hello everyone! Is it possible to get SSH working with the latest HASS? I used the Pi4 image with HASS preinstalled.

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I want to extend my sensor readings history to longer than 4 days with a database, but I can't do anything if I can't SSH into my Pi.

raven forge
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Not that you need SSH for that but yes. There's SSH addons available. I recommend the community one

stray lily
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Could you point me towards that please?

raven forge
burnt talon
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Hello I need some help with my installation. I install HA onto my synology NAS using Docker. I followed Crosstalk solutions install and I can't seem to launch the program. The homeassistant won't launch, I get connection refused. Any help?

raven forge
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What do the docker logs say?

burnt talon
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Hi Impact, i'm pretty new to docker, how do I get those?

raven forge
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docker logs nameofcontainer

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I'm not really familiar with synology. They might have (or limit you to) an option for that in the GUI

burnt talon
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ok, let me check

raven forge
burnt talon
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thank you

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@raven forge the network is in bridge on docker with an ip of 172.17.0.0/16 but my network is 192.168.x.x

raven forge
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I'd rather look at the data that made you come to that conclusion. It's normal for docker to use a different subnet though. This is unlikely to be related to your issue.

burnt talon
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Well, thank you @raven forge you were right to follow the doc, it's up now, thanks again for your help

hybrid bolt
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I just switched from HAOS to a docker install. I copied everything from the /config folder from my HAOS install over to my new docker install. One question I have is the backups option (settings -> system ->backups). Is this option supported in a docker install? If I choose "create backup" and select create, I simultaneously get a "unknown error" while it says "backup is currently being created" in the bottom right corner, though no backup is ever made

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Since I'm on docker I obviously have other backup options, but I'm curious if this error is expected or if something went wrong with my installation

raven forge
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You can create backups with the docker installation method but you have to manually restore them. I'd say that errors for core functionality are not expected or normal and I don't get this on my docker installation either. Also see here: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/backup/

hybrid bolt
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ok thank you. Guess I need to dig

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Looks like it's running into an issue with ZHA, which I no longer use (I converted to zigbee2mqtt, so as far as HA knows I don't have any zigbee devices). I converted to zigbee2mqtt while I was still on HAOS also.

humble scaffoldBOT
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@hybrid bolt I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
raven forge
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See if it's listed there and if you can can disable it.

hybrid bolt
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aha. brilliant. Same problem, and same root cause. I had a zha block left in my config.yaml. Removed, rebooted, and backup has started without errors.
Thanks!!

sand frost
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I get a warning when i run the docker command to create ther nodered user in mosquitto... Warning: File /mosquitto/config/mqttuser owner is not root. Future versions will refuse to load this file.To fix this, use chown root /mosquitto/config/mqttuser.Warning: File /mosquitto/config/mqttuser group is not root. Future versions will refuse to load this file.Password:

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but if i just power through and set a password, it lets me without further complaint, but then as I go to add a server in node-red, it just says "connecting" and never actually connects. I haven't fully set up my system yet, so I can't really test if mqtt is working, but that warning from the docker exec command and node-red saying "connecting" make me think something isn't right

frank gale
frank gale
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Literally every command I typed other than banner and login don't work it times out or fails

humble scaffoldBOT
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@wanton gulch I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
humble mirage
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You should use Docker Compose not docker run, and yes, you have to run the container as root

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(your problem may be down to running rootless, or it may be that your user isn't in the docker group, but probably the first)

wanton gulch
humble mirage
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And ensure it runs as root

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Not running it as root will cause countless problems

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If you've got a rootless setup you may as well just give up now

mental umbra
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No power outages but I sometimes remove the power cable from the pi (which is like a power cut as it does not have a shutdown button)

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Also I have had this issue from very early on (the setup is quite young, a couple of weeks only)

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How do I get ssh access to the host system? Is there any official docs on this? I found something that said to put an authorized_keys folder on a FAT32 formatted usb drive named CONFIG, but it does not seem to work.

manic bane
mental umbra
mental umbra
tender wren
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Cutting the power without shutting down the software properly might cause data corruption

mental umbra
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"might" yes

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does? 99.99% not unless you are doing something with the system right now

manic bane
mental umbra
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ok guys I am very sorry i unplugged the usb cable

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maybe it would be useful to have the shutdown button not hidden away in the developer section behind several clicks then

mental umbra
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I can not get ssh access to work. I have a FAT32 usb drive named CONFIG with the correct public key in rsa_id file inside the authorized_keys folder in the root of the drive, the drive is detected when I plug it in, yet the config is not loaded when rebooting the system. Edit: got it to work via addon

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So what I am actually getting is: failed to register layer: error creating overlay mount to /mnt/data/docker/overlay2/7b5c7bb8a409baf3e216e85943dbea28bb92ecd2b7cf0cb16cfc181be2d999ea/merged: too many levels of symbolic links

mental umbra
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@faint dust moving /var/lib/docker did not solve the issue OO

mental umbra
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@faint dust This solved the issue: https://gist.github.com/agners/c5ae781c828dbf76c4cc1e4588c034a5 as linked in https://github.com/home-assistant/supervisor/issues/4738. As docker does not have a mechanism for detecting or repairing corrupt image layers it seems to be very prone to power cuts, which I have ironically apparently been doing during a docker image pull (no idea how that happened). I suggest making the reboot & showdown buttons more prominent if the system is that prone to damage through power cuts.

mental umbra
faint dust
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Especially since 3rdparty software like addons might also not like power cuts 😢

spiral kiln
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The content of the configuration directory (outside of the container) is more important to backup. Backing up the container itself is not sufficient. (for the benefit of others like me who discovered HA architecture with pre-existing familiarity with the container concept)

humble mirage
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Backing up the container image is largely pointless

raven forge
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I'm not really sure what docker container file is even referring to.
Oh this is about the backup archive for addons? Some addons store some of their data in the homeassistant path and hence it's in the homeassistant tar file.

glacial heath
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Mine is the supervisord version installed. But every time there is a supervisor upgrade, I get this error after the upgrade: The system is unhealthy and there is no privilege escalation. At this time, it is good to restart the host. But this problem will occur every time I upgrade the supervisor. How to solve it once and for all

humble mirage
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Switch to Home Assistant OS

raven forge
humble scaffoldBOT
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Repairs

Open your Home Assistant instance and show your repairs

glacial heath
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Every time the supervisor is upgraded, it will appear.

raven forge
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That does not answer the question.

glacial heath
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Wait a minute, I'll look for this error report

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System is currently unhealthy because it does not have privileged access to the docker runtime. Use the link to learn more and how to fix this.

raven forge
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Do that 🙂
Where did it link to?

glacial heath
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Execute: systemctl restart docker
It will get better. But this error will appear every time the supervisor is upgraded. Is there any way to solve it once and for all.

placid sage
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So, had a power outage yesterday and when my stuff came back up, I'm no longer able to access Home Assistant externally via Reserve Proxy. Nabu works and accessing it directly with IP works but when I try with my CloudFlare Tunnel, it throws "400: Bad Request" on the site. Any ideas here?

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Everything was working up until the outage

steady flax
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Can someone please help me. I changed something and keep getting an error 500 Internal Server Error Server got itself in trouble. I installed a new virtual machine and loading up a new vdi to start fresh and Im still getting the 500 error

sand frost
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I get a warning when i run the docker command to create ther nodered user in mosquitto... Warning: File /mosquitto/config/mqttuser owner is not root. Future versions will refuse to load this file.To fix this, use chown root /mosquitto/config/mqttuser.Warning: File /mosquitto/config/mqttuser group is not root. Future versions will refuse to load this file.Password:

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but if i just power through and set a password, it lets me without further complaint, but then as I go to add a server in node-red, it just says "connecting" and never actually connects. I haven't fully set up my system yet, so I can't really test if mqtt is working, but that warning from the docker exec command and node-red saying "connecting" make me think something isn't right

humble mirage
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You should change the owner of those files

sand frost
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to root? like the warning says.

humble mirage
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No

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Well, yes, if you're running as root

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But why would you?

sand frost
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I'm not

humble mirage
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The official Mosquitto image runs as another user

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Also, you can start Mosquitto and test it 😉

sand frost
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I'm still setting up the infrastructure and prelim stuff, Haven't used mqtt before, but wanted to use it this go-round

glacial heath
sand frost
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Also, absolutely loving this setup over haos @humble mirage , thank you

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I can just backup the whole docker directories right?

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zip up the top directory, and save that file somewhere?

humble mirage
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Yes

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Though rsnapshot or rclone or any other actual backup solution is better

sand frost
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okay

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adding to todo list...

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How can I find the user I need to chown the mqtt files to?

humble mirage
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Depends on the image you're using for Mosquitto

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1883 for the official one

sand frost
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eclipse-mosquitto

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on port 1883?

humble mirage
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No

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UID 1883

sand frost
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oh.

humble mirage
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Easy to remember 😉

sand frost
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no kidding

raven forge
sand frost
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okay, so then instead of chown root //path, I'll just chown 1883 //path, right?

humble mirage
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sudo chown -R 1883 /my/path

raven forge
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Permisssion management with docker is a bit annoying hence why many recommend volumes and some run everything as root.

sand frost
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Awesome. thanks! I'm sure I'll hit all the snags. This is running way more smoothly though already. I kinda like the docker format over add-ons. I certainly feel more "in control" even if the controls are a little unfamillar

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If node red breaks, I know where to go to fix it, instead of just trying to pull an old version for example

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MQTT node in node red still reads connecting after restarting the docker container... any suggestions?

raven forge
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What address did you give it? Can you share your compose file as well?

sand frost
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I've tried both using the host name and the IP address

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Yep, one sec

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just noticed the timezones were off, need to fix that...

humble mirage
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Can you connect MQTT Explorer to the broker?

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Did you make the mistake of using localhost or 127.0.0.1 in Node Red?

raven forge
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mosquitto or the host's ip should both work with your configuration.

sand frost
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Host IP isn't working, haven't tried MQTT Explorer but I'll get and try that

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right now the mqtt server is pointing at the local IP (192.168.1.150:1883)

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but it wasn't working using the host machine name either

raven forge
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Also check the mosquitto logs. It listens to LAN only unless you configure it not to do that and IIRC logs that fact.

sand frost
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mqtt explorer: Connection refused not authorized

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Whole bunch of new client connections from a 172.x address not authorized

raven forge
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Probably HA

humble mirage
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Need to sort out the auth then 😛

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Did you create any users?

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(not in HA, in Mosquitto)

sand frost
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there's an actual valid connection from my homeassistant user on the expected 192.x address

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Yea, one for homeassistant, and one for nodered

raven forge
sand frost
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I don't see that, but let me do something other than catting the log

raven forge
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No need to cat, you can use docker compose logs -t mosquitto

humble mirage
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Or add dozzle to your stack

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My own conf is:

persistence true
persistence_location /mosquitto/data/
password_file /mosquitto/config/pwfile
allow_anonymous false
log_dest file /mosquitto/log/mosquitto.log
listener 1883
listener 8883
listener 9001
sand frost
# 
# Listen on port 1883 on all IPv4 interfaces
listener 1883
socket_domain ipv4
# save the in-memory database to disk
persistence true
persistence_location /mosquitto/data/
# Log to stderr and logfile
log_dest stderr
log_dest file /mosquitto/log/mosquitto.log
# Require authentication
allow_anonymous false
password_file /mosquitto/config/mqttuser
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@raven forge my log is just full of those connection requests, I don't see literally anything else

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ah I'm connected now

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I had restarted my node-red container after changing permissions, but just now relaunched all of them after changing the timezone and it's connected. Thanks again!

lilac terrace
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I just installed an Unraid Home Assistant container and am encountering an issue.

-Z-wave will not let me install. I try "ws://localhost:3000" for the URL and receive "Failed to connect".

Is anyone familiar with configuring a container with a USB antenna that supports zigbee and z-wave?

Disregard: I switched to a VM on Unraid.

clear crescent
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hello - been trying to do a standard install onto a RPi4 since yesterday, but it keeps failing. after flashing the image via my PC and putting the SD card into the RPi4, the device does not boot, nothing shows on the screen, no light turns on adjacent to the ethernet cable that is plugged into the RPi4, and the setup page (homeassistant:8123) does not load. any suggestions?
i know the RPI4 and the SD card and the ethernet cable and PS are are all fine since i was previously using them for a Pi-hole

raven forge
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How did you flash HAOS onto it? What was the name of the file you flashed?

clear crescent
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i used the official RPI imager program on w11

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and selected the HASS RPi4 version in there

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home assistant OS 11.1 (RPi 4/400)

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on one of my latter attemps i also formatted the SD card before reflashing HASS

frank gale
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anyone know if there are bugs with the latest os thats causing python3 to crash maybe a dns issue

clear crescent
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i disabled my piholes right before attempting installation so i'm using standard upstream ISP DNS for the installation process

humble mirage
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Check the logs to see what the error is

clear crescent
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where?

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i see a config file in the sd card

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cmdline file

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is it elsewhere?

pastel coral
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hello! I have an android phone (REDMI 8) with Debian 12 installed (I install Debian in the phone with Linux Deploy); when I access to Debian in phone with VNC works great! I can access to SSH and putty to... I tryed install Home Assitant Supervised but I have error when I try install Docker and have error to in "sudo dpkg -i os-agent_1.6.0_linux_aarch64.deb"

clear crescent
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looked it up

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i see i need to add it to the config file and then run install

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will try

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brb with logs

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wait it says to add to the configuration.yaml file

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mine is a config.txt

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that's not the same thing right?

pastel coral
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error when I do the command "docker version": "Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running?"

raven forge
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HA supervised on a phone? Can't say I heard of that before. Probably not easy to find someone having experience with that.

Is the docker daemon running?
Is it?

pastel coral
raven forge
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But is the docker service running?

pastel coral
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"root@localhost:~# sudo service docker start
Starting Docker: docker."

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but when I put command: "docker version" the system says:

raven forge
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systemctl status docker.service

pastel coral
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root@localhost:~# docker version
Client: Docker Engine - Community
Version: 24.0.7
API version: 1.43
Go version: go1.20.10
Git commit: afdd53b
Built: Thu Oct 26 09:08:15 2023
OS/Arch: linux/arm64
Context: default
Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running?

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pastel coral
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root@localhost:~# systemctl status docker.service
Running in chroot, ignoring command 'status'
root@localhost:~#

raven forge
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Try service status then or check the logs.

clear crescent
pastel coral
clear crescent
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still not getting any install logs

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can someone advise where they should be or how to enable them?

raven forge
pastel coral
raven forge
pastel coral
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root@localhost:~# sudo systemctl start docker
Running in chroot, ignoring command 'start'

raven forge
pastel coral
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is any discord group of Linux Deploy ??

humble mirage
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Doesn't look so

clear crescent
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anyone know where i can get old versions to try the installation again with a different image?

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still not able to find where the logs are

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ah found it, going to try balena

raven forge
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Old versions of what?

clear crescent
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HASS

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the full hass os that would go on a pi4

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but ill try a different imager first

raven forge
clear crescent
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gotcha

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haos

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that didn't seem to work either

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i dont get why the ethernet light isn't even on, it doesn't seem t o be getting past the first part of boot i guess?

raven forge
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I haven't used a pi in forever. Not much of a fan

clear crescent
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why?

humble mirage
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Great educational tool

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Shitty server

clear crescent
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i dont plan to have many containers, since i also have a server where i will do any heavier stuff

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itll just be home assistant and pihole

humble mirage
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(Pi4 + SSD on a powered USB hub isn't terrible though)

clear crescent
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p4 seems plenty powerful for just haos, and i'm using an endurance sd card just in case to avoid issues longterm too

raven forge
# clear crescent why?

Here's a previous post/rant of mine about it: #general-archived message
Here's a little more I shared on another server when asked the same

I bought a pi 3 (2017) due to hype and curiosity and wanted to use it as server but ran into road blocks everywhere. Installing docker was a pain and a half and you needed third party blogs to even install compose. It was very very slow too. NPM/node for example took ages. I then tried to use it as a 3D print server. Its USB dropped out constantly ruining my prints.
Nothing I tried helped. I taped the USB plug's power pins, I even bought a shielded cable with one of those ferrite cores and other things I can't remember right now.
It works fine since I switched it to a SFF PC (that was cheaper). I can also wake it on LAN. Does that illuminate my grief?

clear crescent
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i have specifically heard the rp3 isn't really enough for haos

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but that rpi4 is fine

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so that makes sense

raven forge
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Even if you only have few or no addons you should have a bit more than 1G of RAM. The pi4 is relatively slow but I guess one only notices after experiencing something faster.

clear crescent
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like i said my install will be pretty lightweight so i'm not concerned. that being said, i doubt RAM is the reason it's not even booting

raven forge
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No. I'm just corroborating that pi3 is not a good choice for it.

clear crescent
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gotcha, yeah agree, probably isn't

copper steppe
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Is it rebooting and getting a different IP address?

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What is shown on logs? (click the animated icon thing iirc)

pastel coral
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hi @raven forge can you help me again..I think I can install de HAssSupervised in my phone..I folow this:

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but now I have problem in this step:

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tar c {post,pre}{inst,rm} md5sums control | gzip -c > control.tar.gz

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this steps are ok:

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ar x homeassistant-supervised.deb
tar xJf control.tar.xz
sed -i 's/docker-ce/docker.io/' control

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but the tar c {post,pre}{inst,rm} md5sums control | gzip -c > control.tar.gz guive me:

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root@localhost:~/changed-deb# tar c {post,pre}{inst,rm} md5sums control | gzip -c > control.tar.gz
tar: prerm: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: md5sums: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors

raven forge
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I can only recommend using another device to run servers on so you can follow the docs and get something working that is officially supported. I also don't use supervised.

pastel coral
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in the CLI version in the directory i see that create the files: "postinst", "postrm" and "preinst"

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can you help in this comand: tar c {post,pre}{inst,rm} md5sums control | gzip -c > control.tar.gz I think I do anything wrong in {post,pre}{inst,rm}

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if I put the name of files:

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tar c postinst postrm preinst md5sums control | gzip -c > control.tar.gz

raven forge
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If docker does not work supervised will not work either. It's also meant for linux experts and masochists. There's no point. Save your time.

pastel coral
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But this put docker work.. the "Change the dependencies of a deb package"

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and I think that now I have docker work..

raven forge
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What does docker run hello-world say?

pastel coral
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can you help me in the 4rt step:

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You can change the dependencies of a deb package like this:

  1. Unpack deb: ar x golden-linux.deb (will create i.e. three files: debian-binary control.tar.gz data.tar.gz)
  2. Unpack control archive: tar xzf control.tar.gz (will create: postinst postrm preinst prerm md5sums control)
  3. Fix dependencies in control (use a text editor)
  4. Repack control.tar.gz: tar c {post,pre}{inst,rm} md5sums control | gzip -c > control.tar.gz
  5. Repack deb: ar rcs newpackage.deb debian-binary control.tar.gz data.tar.gz
pastel coral
raven forge
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Like I said. No point continuing. You didn't aswer my question from earlier. Why not use something other than a phone?

pastel coral
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I dont have.. but the phone run perfectly de Debian12..

raven forge
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Evidently not. Let me ask another way. Why not buy a cheap used (U)SFF PC?

pastel coral
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ok..but I need to try this step..: tar c {post,pre}{inst,rm} md5sums control | gzip -c > control.tar.gz

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root@localhost:~/changed-deb# tar c {post,pre}{inst,rm} md5sums control | gzip -c > control.tar.gz
tar: prerm: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: md5sums: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors

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what I put in "prerm" and "md5sums"??

desert axle
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in the end. i've done.

zenith shard
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anyone that can fix the problem with Tuya. white/yellow normal light color will work with the powerslider. when change to color the slider will change to backlight and dont have the solution to go under 5%

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as the app also works with the page's for the setttings off the light

sand frost
#

trying to figure out how to set up a backup script to automatically back up my docker configs and data... Is it as simple as 1) Stop home assistant, 2) cp source destination, 3) restart home assistant 4) zip up copied files ?

fringe moth
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want to move my docker instance of HA over to a more beefier host , should i use the backup tarball or just copy over the container persistent volume ?

empty bloom
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Do whatever you're comfortable with

tulip basin
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hmm.. i have a certbot that uses --keep-until-expiring which is supposed to renew the cert if there is less than 30 days remaining, but its saying "Certificate not yet due for renewal"

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never mind im an idiot 😉

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Not After
Fri, 01 Mar 2024 09:57:55 GMT .. thats better

raven forge
#

Elaborate

open ivy
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Hello, today i tried to move a VM to another device. Before was Qnap Visualisation Station now i moved it to Virtualbox. Much went okay, its also starting, but everything with oauth does not work and i also cannot reconfigure it because oauth fails... doesnt matter if google, alexa media or trakt.tv to tell some of them. IP Adress is the same, Mac Adress also... any advise?

fallen lichen
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You'll need to specify further on what "fails"

open ivy
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and the rest like google or trakt are hanging in the initialisation.

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so what i noticed is that this are all things which need the oauth

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all other things which are integrated differentlly are running

fallen lichen
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Check your logs for more info on what might be going on

ancient jetty
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how can i import my VM from virtualbox to my other virtualbox that was started as sudo?

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because when i start virtualbox as sudo the VM i have it does not appear

clear crescent
frank gale
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for the people helping me virtual box works amazing since this is working do you know what could be the issue

rich pagoda
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Hello, is rpi 5 OK for installation or should I consider something x64 ? I am mostly going to use it for zigbee and esphome and I do have a USB sonoff zigbee bridge

brittle sail
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Pi5 isn’t supported yet and mini pcs price vs performance compared to SBCs like a pi is night and day

rich pagoda
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Well I did pre-order the pi5 at release and its gathering dust atm

brittle sail
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N100 based mini pcs on Amazon are popular lately

rich pagoda
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I do have a very old AMD thinclient

brittle sail
rich pagoda
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and also an i5 optiplex

brittle sail
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That’ll work

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You ever used proxmox?

rich pagoda
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I will shove it in my meter cabinet and wanted to see if I can get away with something small

brittle sail
rich pagoda
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right now I have a PoE Switch and a router and a small netbook for pihole only

brittle sail
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You can install haos bare metal too if you prefer

rich pagoda
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If I can fit all in one I prefer that

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so router with pihole or some other dns sink and home automation basically

brittle sail
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Oh you should definitely run proxmox

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Eh

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I wouldn’t combine firewall, router, and smart home all on one device

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It’s just bad form

rich pagoda
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Hmm

brittle sail
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I’d run a dedicated device for opnsense or something

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And then however you want to run home assistant and other things

rich pagoda
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this is the thinclient that I am talking about

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its passively cooled so in terms of noise its a better option also its "compact"

brittle sail
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Fuck it has ps/2 ports lol

rich pagoda
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🙂

brittle sail
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Wrong link one sec

rich pagoda
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well it has displayport gbit ethernet and 2x usb 3.0 4xdusb2

brittle sail
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oh ye

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look up the passmark score of the cpu

rich pagoda
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but only 2 cores I belive

brittle sail
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if it's over 1000 it is good enough for haos and better than a pi

rich pagoda
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damn am I going to have to buy more hardware now ?

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I really dont want to use a SFF for this task

brittle sail
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they are considered a better option than a pi

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a real ssd not a microSD card

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and much faster cpu

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they keep adding more options to home assistant and esphome that require more processing power to get more out of them like openwakeword, piper, whisper, all the new stuff

rich pagoda
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let me check if I did buy a ssd for this thing

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I have no idea what those are

brittle sail
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right, but you will eventually

rich pagoda
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this is my first ever attempt on anything smart

brittle sail
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and you'd have to migrate from the pi at that point

rich pagoda
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just got some tuya TRVs and sonoff screen

brittle sail
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nice

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tuya kinda sucks but they are cheap

rich pagoda
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I am on a budget

brittle sail
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yea

rich pagoda
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my boiler has 2 wires

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so will use a smart relay for activating heating

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have 2 extra temp/humidity sensors

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Thinking putting one outside

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how easy is migration to another hardware ?

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the SFF is definetly overkill at this point

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it has 5 gigabit ports for gods sake. I really want to make this a router

brittle sail
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your mini pc is probably fine for haos for now

rich pagoda
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ok then let me see the hardware I have in there

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it had a crappy pre-ssd flash thingy

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I'll grab the SSD from the SFF for now and later I can grab a proper ssd for it

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i swear my home is an e-wasteland

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found another netbook

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intel atom 2gb ram

craggy vigil
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Can anyone tell me how to reset my terminal screen in home assistant? I was trying to install hacs.

raven forge
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What do you mean with resetting the terminal screen?

craggy vigil
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It just kept replicating

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I am trying to send a pic so it can be seen

humble scaffoldBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

craggy vigil
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I will load it on Imgur

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I uploaded it on Imgur @placid sageub16

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Impact, can you access the picture on Imgur?

raven forge
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Not unless you give me a link to it

craggy vigil
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Ok, are you on there for me to send the link?

raven forge
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Just paste it here so everyone can see it

craggy vigil
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Ok

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I tried restarting

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That was actually posted like 5 times but you get the point

raven forge
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No. I'm still waiting for that link to a picture that explains what your point is

craggy vigil
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You can’t see the pic posted above?

raven forge
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There is no link

craggy vigil
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I posted the actual pic, is it not showing?

raven forge
#

Did you read the bot message?

craggy vigil
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Yes , I was trying to post a link and the pic posted. I guess it is blocked. If I can not post the link I will just figure it out.

raven forge
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You should be able to post links. Just no attached pictures.

craggy vigil
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Ok, still trying to create the link from photos on my phone

raven forge
#

It shouldn't take 40 minutes to upload an image to imgur and copying a link to it for someone who can install HA.

craggy vigil
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Tell me about it….

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No worries, thanks anyway

frank gale
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Starting Network Time Synchronization. ..
Started Notify NFS peers of a restart.
Started Network Time Synchronization.
Reached target System Time Set.

TIME ] Timed out waiting for device /dev/virtio-ports/org.qemu.guest_agent.0.
[DEPEND] Dependency failed for QEMU Guest Agent
FAILED] Failed to start Wait Until Kernel Time Synchronized.
See 'systemctl status systemd-time-wait-sync.service' for details.
] Reached target System Time Synchronized.
] Started Discard unused blocks once a week.
] Reached target Timer Units.
Starting HassOS AppArmor ...
] Finished HassOS AppArmor
Starting Docker Application Container Engine ...
] Started libcontainer container 47b1bf9673f6f15416cce13d4f04bbbfc521ea43325ddb4e9522bd3cf75e2713.
] A start job is running for Docker Application Container Engine (2min 35s / no limit)

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any know what happened here

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and is there a fix for he erros in bold

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this is running on winodws 10 virutal box

frank gale
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i am 100% sure there is nothing wrong with networking

raven forge
frank gale
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one sec

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virtual box VDI

raven forge
#

What is the file name?

frank gale
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haos_ova-11.1

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i have this

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this is a first boot accesed through ip and it says "An error occured while installing Home Assistant, check the logs below for more information."

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.

raven forge
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Please run the command I shared (enter login first) and show the image I requested.

frank gale
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alright one sec

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how do i paste images

humble scaffoldBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

frank gale
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thx one sec

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Unit qemu_guest.service could not be found

raven forge
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Type it correctly then 😄

frank gale
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lol

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the output is here

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do i have to reinstall it?

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.

raven forge
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The settings for the VM look correct. Although I'm not sure why you have a TPM. The guest agent thing isn't important. Virtualbox isn't qemu. I was just curious.
Can you run ha network info? or just network info in the ha > CLI.

frank gale
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will do

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tpm must have been an acident

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havent run the command yet but this came up

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This the command output for ha network info

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i can still access the web page

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.

raven forge
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Seems like docker didn't start which checks out with your earlier message stating

A start job is running for Docker Application Container Engine (2min 35s / no limit)

You can enter login again and test systemctl status docker but it might be a better idea to grab a new vdi and try it again.

frank gale
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do you know what could have caused it in the first place

raven forge
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No. systemctl status docker or journalctl -u docker might give some hints.

frank gale
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alright

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before i run the commands i gonna restart to observer the boot process

raven forge
#

Why not check the logs of the current issue first?

frank gale
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ill do that first then

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just a back story but i switchted to windows10/virtual box becuase i had a issue on the HAOS image install python3 crashes hard and docker application container engine takes 30 minutes to load still it jumps into ermegeny console

raven forge
#

Switch from what?

frank gale
raven forge
#

I'd have suggested putting proxmox VE rather than windows and virtualbox on it but if it fails on bare-metal it probably also fails in a VM. Easier to troubleshoot and restore though.

frank gale
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lets run the commands now

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impact would you like to dm instead

raven forge
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No

frank gale
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got a output

raven forge
#

That looks okay though. A reboot might actually fix something. If not try running supervisor repair afterwards.

frank gale
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i did reboot it and then runned the command

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ill do repair now

raven forge
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Why not check the logs of the current issue first?
ill do that first then
i did reboot it and then runned the command
😐

frank gale
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it crashed on me so thats counts as a restart

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it was the windows comp not the vm

raven forge
#

That does not sound healthy. Might want to fix that first.

frank gale
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command completed succsefully

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it was my fault i was doing something in the backround

raven forge
#

What something causes crashes?

frank gale
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was trying to make a server for a hardrive to make into a nas but thats unrelated

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ran ha network info

raven forge
#

That should not cause a crash though!? That can cause corruption and all kinds of other issues beside that it shouldn't happen at all.

frank gale
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yeh thats true

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logs

raven forge
#

Network info looks okay.

frank gale
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yup i can access the preparing HA page

tender wren
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Doing one thing at a time instead of doing everything a little bit might be a better approach

frank gale
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still says "An error occured while installing Home Assistant, check the logs below for more information."

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anyone heard of quick assist

raven forge
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Very likely the crash corrupted something. Info like that is important. Might be fixable. Let it run for a little bit.

frank gale
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should i try a new ova file

raven forge
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If you want to to be safe that might be a good idea. I recommend frequent backups and snapshots. Also look into what caused the crash. If something is in the process of being written to and a cras happens that file can get corrupted. And since it was during setup...

frank gale
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ill let you know once i reisntall it

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starting VM.....

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qemu still failed to load on new VM it was too fast for me to a scrn but it was the same error as before

raven forge
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QEMU guest agent is for QEMU. Virtualbox ain't QEMU. That's fine.

frank gale
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alrighty

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had to restart it forgot to change it to bridget adapter

raven forge
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You don't have to recreate the VM. Just power it off and attach a new VDI.

frank gale
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i know but just to make it completey fresh just in case

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A start job is running for docker application container engine 3 min and increasing

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started docker 4 mins

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loading cli

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supervisor starting

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Error returned fro supervisor: system is not ready with state:setup

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rcu INFO rcu_preempt detected stalls on cpus/tasks

raven forge
#

On what hardware is this running?

frank gale
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a Compulab

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PC4

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let me get the cpu

frank gale
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the pc thats not working with HA has a Processor AMD GX-420CA SOC with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics, 2000 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)

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and 6Gb ram

raven forge
frank gale
#

it worked though before even on a worse specd pc

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which had 2GB ram

clear crescent
#

so maybe thgat's why HAOS won't woirk either

#

is there something akin to bio on rpi4 to check?

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bios*

frank gale
#

but surely this couldnt cause problems with docker

raven forge
#

Yes and no. It likely causes those CPU stalls.

frank gale
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maybe

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could it be something in the bios other than UEFI

raven forge
#

Virtualization is enabled yes?

frank gale
#

and also what pc would you recommed that budget friendly

frank gale
#

later

raven forge
#

(U)SFF or Mini PCs can be had for 50-100 depending on your currency.

frank gale
#

£

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ill try that then

raven forge
#

I don't recommend windows and virtualbox for running HA(OS). Either HAOS bare metal or as VM via proxmox VE (my recommendation).

frank gale
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ill try proxmox ve

raven forge
#

It should also work bare metal on the AMD box as well.

pastel coral
raven forge
#

Did you extract it?

pastel coral
#

only show option to ISO files!

raven forge
pastel coral
tired prism
#

Hi, all! I've been running HAOS in a VM for a couple years now, and I'm trying to understand if its worth it to migrate to Docker. I'm fairly inexperienced with Docker, but I have a few containers running (Caddy, ESPHome, PiHole, Portainer). The key is that this is my parents' server, and they aren't the most technically gifted, especially if it doesn't have a GUI. I love tinkering and don't mind learning and getting everything set up, I just want to make sure that when I move out, they don't have to deal with anything outside of the HA app.

Can anyone provide some insights?

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Like, I don't quite understand the difference between Supervisor/Managed OS

humble mirage
#

Who's going to manage it?

tired prism
#

Well I would be able to SSH in if something went wrong, but not necessarily everytime HA has an update

humble mirage
#

Neither will auto-update HA itself

#

You always have to manually update that

tired prism
#

Like would I have to do a docker-compose down/up everytime they want to update HA?

humble mirage
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Sure, just like you do today

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Oh, well, if you used Docker you'd do that today

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HAOS puts it in the UI

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Basically, do you want "an appliance" (HAOS) that self-manages some parts, or do you want control (Container)?

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Personally... for remotely supporting somebody I'd use Container (Docker) not HAOS

tired prism
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Basically, I want to be able to click update in the HA UI to update the HA version, but I don't need something to auto-update the Debian Host version

humble mirage
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Then you want HAOS

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End of

tired prism
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Okay, so the HA Docker isn't as simple as click update?

humble mirage
#

Docker you have to use SSH. Or write an automation to do it for you if you're brave.

tired prism
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I just hate not being able to share resources in a VM like docker does. I wouldn't mind writing a script to "docker-compose stop homeassistant; docker-compose up -d homeassistant" (or rebuild), then put a button in the HA GUI to run a script.

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I just didn't know what the difference between a "Supervisor" and "Supervised OS" is

humble mirage
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Well, it's pull then up -d

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Supervised is a trap, don't even think about it

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The two sane install options are HAOS and Container

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Core is for Unix greybeards

tired prism
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Sorry, correction: "Supervisor" vs "Managed OS"

humble mirage
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Supervised is for people who hate themselves

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Supervisor is the thing that gives you add-ons

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HAOS has the Supervisor, HAOS is not Supervised

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HAOS has a managed OS (HAOS)

tired prism
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Okay, so I don't think I need Supervisor bc all of my add-ons have been migrated to Docker

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But the lack of Managed OS is not a problem from Home Assistant's POV?

raven forge
humble mirage
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Doesn't even know

tired prism
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But maybe I'm just naive and don't know what kind of hole I'm digging myself into

humble mirage
#

Pffft, Docker FTW

raven forge
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Will your parent really read changelogs and update the system? What if an update fails?

humble mirage
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Well, at least over SSH it's easy to revert an upgrade when running Container 😛

tired prism
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No, they probably won't. I guess I'd just SSH in every month or two and see if there's anything that needs updating and if there's any breaking changes.

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Not sure about when updates fail. Haven't yet looked into how to revert upgrades/container backups

humble mirage
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Docker makes that easy

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Just change the tag in the compose file and run docker compose up -d

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Bingo, done

tired prism
#

Okay, I'll have to look into it. But you definitely helped put my mind at ease in moving to docker

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Thank you so much!

sand frost
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is the zwave JS integration (Running in a docker inv) in HA just "Zwave" ? I can't find the Zwave JS one, but i found one that just says "Z-wave"

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I have my zwave js ui server running in a container, but not sure what the next step is for zwave, and don't want to add a deprecated integration

humble mirage
sand frost
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<<salute gif>>

sand frost
#

This is such a cleaner setup than what I had before. I'm glad I'm rebuilding

jovial hemlock
#

Hello is this the correct place to ask about my Nabu Casa account and how to transfer it to a new install of home assistant?

cyan skiff
#

Trying to install using the raspberry pi 4 os image and get this in the logs. [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.11.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/create?tag=2023.11.3&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi4-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)") [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec

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Any ideas.

silent wolf
#

I've tried two different devices to get HAOS running, a M900 ThinkCentre and a Intel NUC... I am following the guide exactly, no matter what I do... I get "no boot device" or "Start HTTPS Boot over IPV4"

Can anyone help

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I booted into Ubuntu (try) restore the HAOS image... restart.... I have done this over and over 10 times trying to get it to work

raven forge
silent wolf
#

And I don’t get any errors or anything like that, but there’s just no boot medium every time I restart, even when I try to specify the boot with the provided commands

raven forge
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Did you disable secure boot?

silent wolf
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Yes I did, and UEFI is enabled

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Because this is happening on two separate devices I feel like I’m doing something wrong though potentially in the command I’m running in terminal?

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The one to specify paths

raven forge
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Maybe. You can get the disk via lsblk -o+MODEL

silent wolf
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In terminal? Inside Ubuntu?

raven forge
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Yep

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If that doesn't work you can always virtualize and run HAOS as a VM if you're up for it

silent wolf
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That command is a two line command but I can copy, edit and paste it as one yeah?

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I get some result when I run it, but it not clear if its a good result or not

raven forge
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Yes. Just remove the \

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What does efibootmgr --verbose say?

silent wolf
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I had not been removing that \ so it could be the culprit

raven forge
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The \ is basically a new line escape.

silent wolf
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Bah, I cant upload screenshots here I should show you the result.

humble scaffoldBOT
#

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raven forge
#

Have to jump through hoops here 😄

silent wolf
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It's OK to be EXT4 right? I am going to start over and wipe the drive again.

raven forge
#

What exactly?

silent wolf
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The NVMe that's in the NUC.

raven forge
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Not directly. There's many partions with different file systems.

silent wolf
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BootCurrent: 0006
Timeout: 1 seconds
BootOrder: 0006,0007
Boot0006* UEFI: VendorCoProductCode 2.00, Partition 1 PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x14,0x0)/USB(0,0)/HD(1,MBR,0x19b79bde,0x800,0x3a97800)..BO
Boot0007* UEFI: VendorCoProductCode 2.00, Partition 1 PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x14,0x0)/USB(6,0)/HD(1,MBR,0x4575fb,0x800,0x3a97000)..BO

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That's what -- verbose sends back

raven forge
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Please run lsblk -o+MODEL

humble scaffoldBOT
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@silent wolf I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
raven forge
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Your NVME is not flashed correctly or at all

silent wolf
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I just wiped it off, let me do it again, didnt think of that before running it. Sorry!

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The drive in Disk Manager says its called nvme01n1p1

raven forge
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After flashing please show the output of lsblk -o+LABEL,FSTYPE,MODEL

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That's the first partition of nvme0n1.

silent wolf
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OK running the restore image now.

raven forge
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Here's how a trimmed output of that looks in a HAOS VM

# lsblk -o+LABEL,FSTYPE,MODEL
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM  SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS                            LABEL          FSTYPE   MODEL
sda      8:0    0   32G  0 disk                                                                QEMU HARDDISK
|-sda1   8:1    0   32M  0 part /mnt/boot                              hassos-boot    vfat
|-sda2   8:2    0   24M  0 part                                                       squashfs
|-sda3   8:3    0  256M  0 part /                                                     squashfs
|-sda4   8:4    0   24M  0 part                                                       squashfs
|-sda5   8:5    0  256M  0 part                                                       squashfs
|-sda6   8:6    0    8M  0 part
|-sda7   8:7    0   96M  0 part /var/lib/systemd                       hassos-overlay ext4
`-sda8   8:8    0 31.3G  0 part /var/log/journal                       hassos-data    ext4
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Restore image? The docs suggest balena

silent wolf
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Method 1 was to use the Restore Disk Image workflow in Ubuntu

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So that's what I had been following

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METHOD 1: INSTALLING HAOS VIA UBUNTU BOOTING FROM A USB FLASH DRIVE

raven forge
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You're right. I apologize

silent wolf
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All good, that was my next plan anyway but idk if I could do that via booting Ubuntu or not and I am trying real hard to not have to remove this drive and connect it to my home system

humble scaffoldBOT
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@silent wolf I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
raven forge
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Nope. It should look similar to what I shared above.

silent wolf
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So then restore image is def not working

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So can I do the other method from within Ubtunu on a USB drive?

raven forge
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Yep

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You just have to replace sdb with nvme0n1

silent wolf
raven forge
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It comes with ubuntu

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Similar to lsblk

silent wolf
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Damn this is so hard lol, I see your file but discord converted it.

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Its not all one command, right?

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I see backticks in it ```

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I was trying to edit it in text editor

raven forge
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Much to my lamentation: #installation-archived message
No it's not just one command. The backticks were part of the markup to make it look nice but the bot kept them in.

silent wolf
raven forge
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I'm not sure what you mean.

silent wolf
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I mean where do I run all these commands, terminal?

raven forge
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Yes

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You might have to run sudo -i first.

silent wolf
cyan skiff
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Trying to start the Raspberry pi version and continually get a DNS error.[supervisor.store.git] Can't clone https://github.com/esphome/home-assistant-addon repository: Cmd('git') failed due to: exit code(128) cmdline: git clone -v --recursive --depth=1 --shallow-submodules -- https://github.com/esphome/home-assistant-addon /data/addons/git/5c53de3b stderr: 'Cloning into '/data/addons/git/5c53de3b'... fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/esphome/home-assistant-addon/': Could not resolve host: github.com

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Is there a trick to this. I can reach it using my pc without issue

sand frost
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Nabu serves up ha in https, but my default install uses http (unless I'm just missing something), how do I serve it up locally with https?

humble mirage
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You don't. Why do you want to?

faint dust
pastel gulch
pastel coral
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Hi..I instal in a VM Debian12 and install HAss Supervised; I do a backup .. after this because the system is a bit slow; I isntall a new VM a put on this the Hassi OS - I try to restore the backup from Hass Supervised - and now I have this error:

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in the version of Hass Supervised I have supervisor mode version 2023.11.7 (dev3002) and in the Hassi OS the supervisor version is 2023.11.6

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I cant restore backup because this..

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what can I do?

humble mirage
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You could have rolled back Supervised to not use the dev release

sacred summit
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Hey guys, I've had a quick search but maybe I'm not looking for the right terms. I have a TrueNas Scale install of Home Assistant. It's a container install working pretty well. But I'm looking to expand and use more features. I've been trying to learn up on the history section and why my install doesn't have it. Seems like it's not setup with the defaults on TrueNAS, so was going to see if I can get it working. My logic would tell me that I need to also run a database container like MariaDB and then setup HA to connect to it. Anyone know of a good docker install guide that includes recorder that I can learn from?

pastel coral
humble mirage
pastel coral
humble mirage
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You never shared the error though

pastel coral
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I put the comand ha supervisor options --channel stable but the supervisor continues with 2023.11.7.dev3002

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I restart the system but the version of supervisor dont change to 2023.11.6

pastel coral
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I put the camand to try force install version 2023.11.6:

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ha supervisor upgrade --version 2022.11.6

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but return the error:

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Prossessing.... Done

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Error: No supervisor update available - 2023.11.7.dev3002

humble mirage
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You never shared the error showing why you couldn't restore your backup

pastel coral
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can you see?

humble mirage
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images of text ... nauseated

pastel coral
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and in HassiOS I cant update supervisor to 2023.11.7.dev3002

humble mirage
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Then you have to wait for somebody else who can help you, assuming help is possible

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Why on earth were you running a dev release though?

empty bloom
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I stopped using nightly builds on my production system because of supervisors auto-updates. I recommend doing the same.

grand pivot
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See, that was your opportunity to switch to container

empty bloom
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It was, but then I just fixed the issue in like 5 minutes

teal rapids
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So, I successfully made the change from Micro SD on my Rpi4b to a USB 3.0 NVME drive, AND did a full restore from a backup. It was surprisingly smooth. HOWEVER. I lost all my DB history... I still have the Micro SD drive with ostensibly has the old history on it. Is there something I missed? Should it have worked or is my history lost forever?

empty bloom
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you can just drag and drop the file while HA is off

placid sage
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Hi all, I'm running ha in docker on a RPI4 and it works great. What's a good procedure when updating to a new version? Do I need to shut down the docker container gracefully or can I just docker rm -f it and then start a new container with a different version?

raven forge
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Ideally you use docker compose and just have to run docker compose pull && docker compose up -d. It handles everything for you.
Otherwise yeah, stop the container, remove it, pull the new image, recreate.

humble mirage
placid sage
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It's a single container so compose feel like overkill. I have a bash script to start it.

humble mirage
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Compose is your friend

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Always

raven forge
grand pivot
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it's easier to read and modify, if anything

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than an equivalent shell script

humble mirage
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The only downside is that it makes it easy to back up and migrate your container configs

faint dust
grand pivot
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to start, get off the dev channel

faint dust
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Yeah. I do switch between beta and dev quite often on my test instances. But when moving to dev -> beta that Supervisor stays stuck a bit. Usually no big deal, resolves itself after a couple of days or weeks latest.

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If really necessary, one can revert it using a couple of docker commands manually from the OS shell. But I'd have to try out what actually works

placid sage
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@dreamy ibex YMMV. I can script in my sleep and I won't be going near YAML unless I have to. There's more than one way to do it.

grand pivot
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okay 🤷

placid sage
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@humble mirage tar -czf backup.tgz config is simple enough for me. How does compose help with backup and migration?

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Anyway, I'm getting a warning in the logs about sqllite not shutting down properly when I start a new container. That's kind of why I was asking
2023-12-04 20:20:40.949 WARNING (Recorder) [homeassistant.components.recorder.util] The system could not validate that the sqlite3 database at //config/home-assistant_v2.db was shutdown cleanly

raven forge
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How are you stopping the container?

placid sage
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docker stop

humble mirage
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@Tinkerer tar -czf backup.tgz config

raven forge
raw hedge
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People and compose files and here I am with my systemd unit files

humble scaffoldBOT
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@rustic shadow I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
rustic shadow
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I want to run home assistant in docker, so I’ve created 3 instances for testing. Raspberry Pi 4 (2 GB RAM), Synology DS 920+ VMM and Synology NAS docker version. For the most part, the pi and the VMM all function the same, but the docker version has issues with integrations; like my printer with IPP saying API can’t connect, or LIFX finds my bulbs, but gives me a completely blank error message that I just need to click “ok” on and that’s it. I don’t experience the same issues the OS counterpart, but do with the docker versions. Ideally I would love to have docker versions, but I want to know what I’m missing here since docker is supposed to be platform agnostic and I don’t need to install other packages / drivers unless I want to specify volumes or devices into it.

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version: '3'
services:
  home_assistant:
    container_name: home_assistant
    image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
    volumes:
      - /volume1/docker/home_assistant:/config
      - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
      - /run/dbus:/run/dbus:ro
    restart: unless-stopped
    privileged: true
    network_mode: host
raw hedge
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I am soo confused… why did you give it read only to dbus when you gave it read / write with privileged and host networking mode

rustic shadow
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docker run -d \
  --name homeassistant \
  --privileged \
  --restart=unless-stopped \
  -e TZ=MY_TIME_ZONE \
  -v /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config \
  -v /run/dbus:/run/dbus:ro \
  --network=host \
  ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable
raw hedge
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Ah it’s the way they do Bluetooth, that’s new 😂

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Docker should work the same way as the haos vm

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Logs?

rustic shadow
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I dont think I’ll be using Bluetooth, so I might as well remove dbus, but still weird that mine doesn’t want to work the same was as the OS VM… could it be a Synology DSM thing?

raw hedge
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Possibly, get ha logs when you have the issue

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I’m running home assistant inside podman inside a Linux userpace under a user who does not exist

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Like docker but a wee bit more isolated with root being a non root subguid

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Not going full on rootless until the rootless network performance issues get worked out to near root performance

rustic shadow
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Here's my logs, I've tried to set up a lifx device at 192.168.0.26 and 192.168.0.8, neither of which show up in the logs, unless I'm looking at the wrong ones

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Trying to get a smaller amount of logs.. in paste bin

raw hedge
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And before broken IPv6 /matter

rustic shadow
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Looks like the error logs are going through all of my devices in a circle haha

raw hedge
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No firewall?

rustic shadow
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I dont have anything exposed to the internet, so no firewall (at least none that I set up)

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These devices work successfully on HA OS though

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What's also interesting is that I tried to add my apple tv to HA as well, but it doesnt actually turn the TV on to give me authentication codes; just spins on the "Confirm adding Apple TV" state, also confirmed working on HA OS VMM

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Here's the apple tv one, if it may help

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I've also tried to delete my entire config folder and create a brand new instance of home assistant, all with the same error (removed the dbus)

ashen nova
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I just learned that supervised version can be install on docker...
Is there any easy way for me to migrate from container version to supervised?

grand pivot
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I just learned that supervised version can be install on docker...
that doesn't make sense

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You shouldn't migrate to Supervised. Nobody should

ashen nova
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Could you elaborate?

grand pivot
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there's no advantage over HAOS

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it's just more work

ashen nova
grand pivot
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and it still doesn't make sense to install Supervised "in" docker

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sounds like you're describing a specific addon

frigid sierra
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Hi, I'm trying to move my Home Assistant from a computer to another, so I created and downloaded a backup but I can't figure out how to import it on the new instance. Help ? Thanks

grand pivot
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No version of HA natively supports backing up to any cloud

ashen nova
grand pivot
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if you want access to addons, rather than handling backups like that yourself, you should migrate to HAOS

frigid sierra
raven forge
grand pivot
ashen nova
ashen nova
raven forge
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Make a backup, download it, install HAOS, use its restore function

raven forge
ashen nova
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is sharing tube videos allowed?

raven forge
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If not you can put the blame on me I guess 🤷

ashen nova
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What do Jedis represent in this server btw?

humble scaffoldBOT
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The Jedi role (blue) is given to our community members who have proven themselves knowledgable and worthy of helping others. Please do not request to be assigned this role. It must be earned.

frigid sierra
grand pivot
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so, yes, I guess

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And the answer is that you untar the backup into your config directory. HA cannot do the restore for you

raven forge
grand pivot
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at all

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I wish it would completely go away and folks would stop talking about it and making videos about it

ashen nova
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I mean... I really do want automated cloud back ups though 😦

grand pivot
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then use HA OS

ashen nova
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I can't ... for reasons

grand pivot
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well...

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best o' luck

raven forge
tender wren
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Are we talking about Supervised?

grand pivot
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yes. some rando made a video

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now it sounds tasty

ashen nova
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It's not about the hardware..(well it is... ) @raven forge we have already talked about it in #general-archived few hours back...

tender wren
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"Best installation method"

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1 year old

raven forge
ashen nova
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Guys please don't start mocking again... I'm just trying to figure out the best setup, for my priorities with in my obligations...

ashen nova
ashen nova
raven forge
ashen nova
tender wren
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The video guide will also not result in a healthy Supervised install. Only Debian 12 is supported, not RPi OS

raven forge
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So not only do you get little support from us here (I don't use it, for example), you also have to manage the system as how supervisor wants it and can't even use it for what you want without making it unhealthy. See link above. There's not really any benefit. You will make the system unsupported in a hurry and you might also run into mean or snarky comments. Not from me but still.

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I'd recommend either using the integrated backups (perhaps with a automation) and then use rclone to sync it off-site or do the backups with something like restic.

tender wren
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Which add-on you want does not work as a container?

ashen nova
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There's an issue thread where the author says that it currently relies on the supervised api

ashen nova
raven forge
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The problem with just backing up the /config directory with restic or whatever is that the database isn't locked during that time so it is safer to let HA make the backup and transfer those.

tender wren
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There is also Linux software to connect a Google Drive to the host system

ashen nova
raven forge
bold ridge
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Anyone in this group run Home Assistant as a docker container on unRaid?

frigid sierra
bold ridge
grand pivot
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you can just follow the HACS installation instructions

ashen nova
raven forge
tender wren
ashen nova
raven forge
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I'm not sure you can on a pi. Qemu should work on them but I'm not sure if HAOS' OVA works with that and I wouldn't expect the performance to be great.
I run all my services (besides my firewall and print server) in VMs/CTs and can recommend proxmox VE if you get a "normal" PC in the future.

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I just remembered that some folks use pimox (based on proxmox VE) to virtualize things so it's definitely possible: : https://github.com/pimox/pimox7
Sounds like pain though.

ashen nova
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I'm now thinking if it would be possible to have two instances of HA on the same network... one being thecontainer version of HA on a pi 7/24 ... And a HAOS on virtual box on my main pc, up whenever I'm working on it.

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Would they terribly conflict or just get along just as well?

raven forge
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That very much depends on the devices and your configuration. Having multiple automations that toggle something might prove unhealthy, for example.

ashen nova
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Yeah I guess I would have to stop the other service when one is up...

raven forge
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Generally having a development VM is quite nice and practical. I do this for HAOS as I don't use it myself. I start it up, check some commands or whatever I think I can help with and when I'm done I restore my snapshot.

ashen nova
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Well I don't know what I'm even babbling about anymore mate... I couldn't even get my rasbian boot from my SSD yet... it's way too slow and throws errors etc...I suspect power being low but I have a 3amp 5v adapter which in theory should be enough...
And while that setup is like that I'm here dreaming about setting up multiple instances and shit.. I'm slowly getting coldfeet from all this linux and HA thing... may be I should just return the pi and stick with my existing automations... I dunno... I'm a bit depressed... Whole bite is more than I can chew and only a handful of people to talk to..

raven forge
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There's plenty of people doing stuff like this on the selfhosted,homelab or just homeassistant subreddits. I'm sure there's other communities as well you'll feel at home at.

ashen nova
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Thanks again for the directions... You keep being you tho: rmvp

raven forge
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About the power issue. We tend to recommend powered USB hubs when using USB storage. Using the official power supply is also recommended. It's about more than just peak amps.
You might also find this interesting: https://pip.raspberrypi.com/categories/685-whitepapers-app-notes/documents/RP-003610-WP/Making-a-more-resilient-file-system.pdf
Also see here: https://www.home-assistant.io/faq/usb_boot/
I believe there was a white paper about properly powering pis too but I can't find it at the moment. rasperry brownout or rasperry under voltage might find it.

ashen nova
# raven forge About the power issue. We tend to recommend powered USB hubs when using USB stor...

Yet again great resources. .. ALL I wanna do is to create a resilient pi (and file system)... That's why I went with SSD setup etc.
Before I ordered anything I calculated a total of 2 point some ampers for all the peak powers of pi, SSD (SSD peak is surprisingly only 0.4 ) and the fan on the case... Won't matter in a week though cause I already ordered a sata to usb3 with external power adapter... So I'll know then if it was power or any of my boot configurations or perhaps it's the converter itself..

If everything fails, I may just end up trying to boot the SSD with HAOS installed anyways... I shall see

bold ridge
grand pivot
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You have to run the command in the HACS installation instructions from the command line

bold ridge
bold ridge
tender wren
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?

bold ridge
raven forge
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Basically keep following the docs on their website. The script is just one part of the process.

bold ridge
raven forge
bold ridge
raw hedge
raven forge
grand pivot
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And you need to actually add it

raw hedge
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If HomeKit is also broken, sounds like the host is mucking with the multicasts in some way

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I hate containers on these NAS devices. There is probably some kind of firewall most users do not know about or know how to configure

bold ridge
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Thank you i managed to finally add HACS, i will continue reading on what i need from here. Thank you all for the help

sand frost
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How do I make sure docker compose is running automatically on system reboot?

grand pivot
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As long as your containers are set to 'restart: unless-stopped' or similar, they start on their own

sand frost
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Awesome, thank you. I have one set to always, but otherwise good!

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I'm still not sure how to get to things like portainer if I'm not home... On-network, it all works fine, I'm not using SSL and serving up via http, but if I access off network via nabu, it serves up using SSL, and https, and my Lovelace links don't work anymore

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I just get the following error:

Unable to load iframes that load websites over http:// if Home Assistant is served over https://

grand pivot
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That is just a browser restriction

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Error is clear

sand frost
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I'm using the home assistant app though, maybe there's a setting in there

grand pivot
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Nope. No browser supports that

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It's insecure

sand frost
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So then can I run everything USING ssl locally so that I can get to those items outside the network? What's normal SOP for that, if you're off network, assume you can't get to the deeper backend?

grand pivot
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If they're locally hosted sites, you'd need to use a remote proxy like NGINX and expose it externally

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That will handle SSL for you

sand frost
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Ahh, okay. So I couldn't get to it even if I was self-signing or something anyway. I dunno why, I thought for some reason that nabu was tunneling in somehow and serving up as a "local" instance that'd let me get to them

grand pivot
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It is not a vpn or general proxy

sand frost
#

Okay, struggling with probably a very basic thing... but I'm trying to create a group of most-used switches and a script, but my entity ID for one of my switches is the name of the switch, rather than what it controls (see screen cap) and if I try to rename just the switch (to switch.livingRoomLights) I get an "Invalid entity ID" error

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eh, i can't upload a screen cap

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switch.in_wall_toggle_switch_500s vs something like switch.LivingRoomLights

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Am I missing something super simple? I thought I'd renamed the switch after adding it in via zwave, but I must have just renamed the device instead of the entity

grand pivot
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Entities can't have uppercase letters

sand frost
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jesus

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thank you.

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any harm in having the various zwave elements (ping, node status, firmware, etc) having the assigned name, and the switch entity having a logical name?

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entity ID*

grand pivot
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Doesn't matter

chrome coral
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Hello. Can I have both:
Use external nginx server running on same network (on proxmox). I would prefer this over HA nginx addon
Remove ssl_certificate for local non encrypted access.

humble mirage
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Yes

chrome coral
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Just found my mistake in nginx config 😄

tranquil thunder
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I am running the downloaded image of the current on the current HA (OS Version: Home Assistant OS 11.2, Home Assistant Core: 2023.11.3) in a VMware VM. Can I install snmp service to monitor HA and sub containers with my monitoring system (PRTG)?

humble mirage
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Short answer, no

teal rapids
empty bloom
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yes, it was directed at you

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it's a file system, just access the file system, pull the file, move it over to your new system

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backup/restore should have done that, if it didn't, there's most likely an issue w/ your db.

teal rapids
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Hmm. What’s the file look like? I see my configuration.yaml has a db_url with Maria-db in the URL. I guess it was set to use the addon?

empty bloom
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oh you're using mariadb? Then it's significantly harder to pull this over.

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you'll need to spool up your system, install phpmyadmin, export the database and import it into your new system

teal rapids
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Ah. Spool up?

empty bloom
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turn it on

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it's a turn of phrase

teal rapids
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Can a Mac system read an HAOS formatted drive?

empty bloom
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turn on old system, install phpmyadmin, export database from phpmyadmin to a file. Import file into new system using phpmyadmin.

empty bloom
teal rapids
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Right. It’s.. kind of hard to physically access the new system. I will try putting the old SD card back in but I flashed my Pi to do USB booting

empty bloom
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How much data is it?

teal rapids
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A year

empty bloom
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does it really matter that much? Just use the default database and build from now

teal rapids
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Yeah. Might not be worth it. I was going to compare the attic seasonal temps post install of new attic venting but that would be the only important history

stoic jewel
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I'd like to restore a backup to new (identical) hardware (HA Blue/Hardkernal odroid N2). Any suggestion on how best to do this? HA OS backup/restore/reboot?

teal rapids
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can you dual boot a pi4? Like have both an SD card install and a USB drive install?

empty bloom
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🤷‍♂️

teal rapids
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Or I can maybe find and copy the database storage file from Maria without booting the old HAOS. It’s a .sock file I think

humble mirage
stoic jewel
timid gorge
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Guys, I screwd up my HA VM and now it's not getting an IP.
I'm running it on a Fedora Server with Cockpit (so... libvirt?).
Can anyone help diagnose my problem?
I need help troubleshooting network related configs for:

  • Hypervisor
  • Virtual NICs
  • VNET
  • Bridge
  • VM
pastel coral
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hello, I have instaled like this:

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is this:

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is it safe? or my network is exposed??

stoic jewel
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My odroid N2 console has pages of the following error: fe.dai-link-0: ASoC: no backend DAIs enabled for fe.dai-link-0. Not sure when this started since I don't often look at the console, but certainly in the last few weeks. I am guessing it is caused by some upgrade since it has not been there for the last couple of years until recently. Thoughts appreciated.

humble mirage
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is it safe? or my network is exposed??

torpid dagger
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hi i have updated Home Assistant Operating System Update 11.2

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i now have problems with supervisor it won't start

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Dec 05 18:43:53 homeassistant hassio_supervisor[536]: [18:43:53] INFO: Supervisor restart after closing
Dec 05 18:43:55 homeassistant hassio_supervisor[536]: Error relocating /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: unct_cacheIT_E: symbol not found
Dec 05 18:43:55 homeassistant systemd[1]: Started Process Core Dump (PID 7670/UID 0).
Dec 05 18:43:56 homeassistant systemd-coredump[7671]: Process 7665 (python3) of user 0 dumped core.
Dec 05 18:43:56 homeassistant systemd[1]: systemd-coredump@333-7670-0.service: Deactivated successfully.
Dec 05 18:44:54 homeassistant kernel: audit: type=1334 audit(1701801867.899:2487): prog-id=1031 op=UNLOAD

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it tries to reinstall supervisor docker image after several times

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i have an rpi 4 with hassio installed

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any help ?

humble mirage
torpid dagger
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yes

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i guess latest has issue

humble scaffoldBOT
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@torpid dagger Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

humble mirage
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Share the log 😉

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"yes" doesn't help us help you

torpid dagger
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ok i paste log i have restartet right now

humble mirage
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fatal: unable to exec run: Exec format error

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Never seen that before, not with HAOS

sterile raft
tender wren
sterile raft
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any idea how to fix this? i think after some 10 minutes it should detect my devices, wont it?

humble mirage
torpid dagger
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ha os is basic install on my rpi right? what if i downgrade docker image of hassio_supervisor

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tender wren
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I would try a ha su repair

grand pivot
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I know there was talk of eliminating 32-bit support

torpid dagger
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Error response from daemon: Container ebe2e5482afc16fa6e2ec5ca92b79da1803ea18a8d6930b5fe7120dd0913fa1d is not running```
humble mirage
grand pivot
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otherwise, I got nothin'

torpid dagger
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Dec 05 19:12:57 homeassistant dockerd[539]: time="2023-12-05T19:12:57.797443590Z" level=error msg="Error setting up exec command in container hassio_cli: Container ebe2e5482afc16fa6e2ec5ca92b79da1803ea18a8d6930b5fe7120dd0913fa1d is not running"```
grand pivot
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besides, the docker ps output above clearly says aarch64

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I would just reinstall and restore from backup

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it will take less time than trying to debug this issue, I suspect

torpid dagger
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reinstall hassio_supervisor?

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or ha os

grand pivot
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HA OS. reflash, restore backup

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trying to reinstall bits and pieces of it isn't going to end well

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there could be lots of things wrong

torpid dagger
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ok this is a way to go for but before i would like to try old hassio_supervisor is there a way to it back to version before update

raven forge
grand pivot
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if the hassio_cli container doesn't start, then no ha commands will work, though

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you'd have to use raw docker commands

torpid dagger
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do you know the raw command?

raven forge
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I read it from the bottom on the phone so I missed what the information was used for. I'd do docker inspect ebe2e5482 first to get some information about that container. Maybe you can just start it or figure out the image.
You can then grab the right image from here: https://github.com/orgs/home-assistant/packages?repo_name=supervisor
I don't know the run arguments the system uses though.
Seems to be this: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/blob/1211b24c7f1d59b84eb7033fd737d62d199646c6/buildroot-external/rootfs-overlay/usr/sbin/hassos-supervisor#L88

torpid dagger
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s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner: starting
s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner successfully started
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs: starting
s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: starting
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: starting
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services successfully started````
raven forge
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That's the CLI.

torpid dagger
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@raven forge does Fix Supervisor image corruption detection (#2953) mean update is corrupted?

raven forge
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That's just a commit message but perhaps. I don't know.

torpid dagger
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CONTAINER ID   IMAGE                                                      COMMAND               CREATED          STATUS          PORTS                                   NAMES
dd77deab8a7f   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:latest    "/init"               43 minutes ago   Up 42 minutes                                           hassio_supervisor
7218e0cf2cab   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-observer:2023.06.0   "/usr/bin/observer"   5 months ago     Up 43 minutes   0.0.0.0:4357->80/tcp, :::4357->80/tcp   hassio_observer````
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should i pull hassio-supervisor?

raven forge
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I told you what you can do above. I had to read a bit of context first. hassio_supervisor is running. You can check the docker status of hassio_cli. Your output above is limited.

torpid dagger
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hassio_cli is not running. I have started Home Assistant Operating System Update from 11.1 to 11.2 via webinterface after an hour it didn't come up. After that i have reseted my pi with the problem that supervisor is not running correct

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ok i go with reflash

raven forge
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If you want to we can go further but I can't guarantee success.

torpid dagger
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ok tell me howto

raven forge
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I'd check docker ps -a | grep -i cli and see if it is just stopped. If yes you can try to start it.
You can also check docker logs --since 24h hassio_cli

torpid dagger
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1c6dc59d8470   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-cli:2023.10.0              "/init"               16 minutes ago   Exited (111) 13 minutes ago                                           youthful_khorana
ebe2e5482afc   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-cli:2023.10.0              "/init"               3 weeks ago      Exited (255) 2 hours ago                                              hassio_cli
# ````
raven forge
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Okay check the logs first, then try docker start hassio_cli

torpid dagger
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its up

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ha su repair?

raven forge
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I'd still like to see the logs (if it even logs anything) but sure.

torpid dagger
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# docker ps
CONTAINER ID   IMAGE                                                      COMMAND               CREATED          STATUS          PORTS                                   NAMES
dd77deab8a7f   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:latest    "/init"               59 minutes ago   Up 59 minutes                                           hassio_supervisor
ebe2e5482afc   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-cli:2023.10.0        "/init"               3 weeks ago      Up 48 seconds                                           hassio_cli
7218e0cf2cab   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-observer:2023.06.0   "/usr/bin/observer"   5 months ago     Up 59 minutes   0.0.0.0:4357->80/tcp, :::4357->80/tcp   hassio_observer
# ha su repair
Post "http://supervisor/supervisor/repair": dial tcp 172.30.32.2:80: connect: no route to host
raven forge
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Is that the full output? There's a lot of things that are not up. That ip usually belongs to hassio_dns IIRC.

torpid dagger
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yes because of supervisor i guess

raven forge
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Have you tried a reboot already?

torpid dagger
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yes tried reboot

raven forge
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Hmm okay, try docker ps -a | grep -Ei '(hassio|core)*'

raven forge
torpid dagger
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raven forge
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The * is important. I missed the ' at the end though

torpid dagger
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raven forge
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Sorry, has to look something like docker ps --filter status=exited | grep -Ei "(hassio|core)*". I always forget the different regex rules for different things.
I got my HAOS up now though so I can test the commands first.

torpid dagger
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need to paste it on webpage sorry

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but limited pastin chat

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i guess my problem is with latest supervisor image

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is it possible to stop and reinstall image

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CONTAINER ID   IMAGE                                                            COMMAND   CREATED          STATUS                        PORTS                                   NAMES
1c6dc59d8470   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-cli:2023.10.0              "/init"   31 minutes ago   Exited (111) 28 minutes ago                                           youthful_khorana
a3992eafce38   ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.11.3   "/init"   11 days ago      Exited (0) 2 hours ago                                                homeassistant
0241bbbf5c89   homeassistant/aarch64-addon-nginx_proxy:3.5.0                    "/init"   3 weeks ago      Exited (255) 2 hours ago      0.0.0.0:443->443/tcp, :::443->443/tcp   addon_core_nginx_proxy
4ca5ec75afa6   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-multicast:2023.06.2        "/init"   3 weeks ago      Exited (255) 2 hours ago                                              hassio_multicast
d2f86b6ad74b   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-audio:2023.10.0            "/init"   3 weeks ago      Exited (255) 2 hours ago                                              hassio_audio
847bd12a71f5   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-dns:2023.06.2              "/init"   3 weeks ago      Exited (255) 2 hours ago                                              hassio_dns
# ```
raven forge
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Try docker start hassio_dns, then ha supervisor repair again.
In theory yes but you have to figure out all the arguments that are being used and that's not that trivial. At least not for me as a non-python programmer.

torpid dagger
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hassio_dns
# ha supervisor repair
Post "http://supervisor/supervisor/repair": dial tcp 172.30.32.2:80: connect: no route to host
#```
raven forge
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docker logs hassio_dns

humble scaffoldBOT
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raven forge
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Hmm. You can try something like this to get the container ip adresses.

for container in $(docker ps --format '{{ .ID }}'); do docker inspect $container --format='{{.Name}}: "{{range .NetworkSettings.Networks}}{{.IPAddress}}{{end}}"'; done
torpid dagger
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/hassio_dns: "172.30.32.3"
/hassio_cli: "172.30.32.5"
/hassio_observer: "172.30.32.6"```
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supervisor has 232.2 right now but cli tries to repair 32.2

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howto to tell cli to repair supervisor 232.2

raven forge
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🤷
Maybe try another reboot.

torpid dagger
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what about stop and delete image and pull again supervisor

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can you tell me howto

raven forge
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You also have to create the container and I can't tell you the args for it.

torpid dagger
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what about stop and start

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docker stop hassio_supervisor and then docker start hassio_supervisor

raven forge
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Sure you can try that.

torpid dagger
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it is taking sometime stopping?

# 
hassio_supervisor
# docker ps
CONTAINER ID   IMAGE                                                      COMMAND               CREATED        STATUS             PORTS                                   NAMES
847bd12a71f5   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-dns:2023.06.2        "/init"               3 weeks ago    Up 14 minutes                                              hassio_dns
ebe2e5482afc   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-cli:2023.10.0        "/init"               3 weeks ago    Up 28 minutes                                              hassio_cli
7218e0cf2cab   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-observer:2023.06.0   "/usr/bin/observer"   5 months ago   Up About an hour   0.0.0.0:4357->80/tcp, :::4357->80/tcp   hassio_observer
# docker start hassio_supervisor
Error response from daemon: No such container: hassio_supervisor
Error: failed to start containers: hassio_supervisor
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CONTAINER ID   IMAGE                                                            COMMAND   CREATED          STATUS                        PORTS                                   NAMES
1c6dc59d8470   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-cli:2023.10.0              "/init"   47 minutes ago   Exited (111) 45 minutes ago                                           youthful_khorana
a3992eafce38   ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.11.3   "/init"   11 days ago      Exited (0) 2 hours ago                                                homeassistant
0241bbbf5c89   homeassistant/aarch64-addon-nginx_proxy:3.5.0                    "/init"   3 weeks ago      Exited (255) 2 hours ago      0.0.0.0:443->443/tcp, :::443->443/tcp   addon_core_nginx_proxy
4ca5ec75afa6   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-multicast:2023.06.2        "/init"   3 weeks ago      Exited (255) 2 hours ago                                              hassio_multicast
d2f86b6ad74b   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-audio:2023.10.0            "/init"   3 weeks ago      Exited (255) 2 hours ago                                              hassio_audio
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after stopping supervisor image is gone

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is this maybe my problem that it was not correct deleted