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acoustic thistle
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I'm trying to install HA in a Docker Container on my Mac Mini M1, but can never get Apple Homekit to work. Anyone intersted in helping me out? 🙂

raven forge
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I have no clue about homekit but it might be because host is only supported on linux and it needs that?

tacit nexus
stray otter
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I'm having an issue with the hass rpi 4 x64 image. Load onto SD card, but nothing displays... get the usual "sd card issue" LED lights.
Yet when I load the hass rpi 4 x86 image, it works fine... even displays the boot loading, etc.
Anyone else experienced this?

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I'm using a pi4 model b (2018) 4GB

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I've just tried 10.4 x64 and seems to be the same issue

raven forge
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x64? How and what did you flash exactly?

stray otter
raven forge
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That looks alright but I've seen a few reports about 10.5 misbehaving

stray otter
raven forge
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Yeah. Upgrading is rather simple

stray otter
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I'll try go back a couple of versions in the hope it's that.
Just strange that the 32 bit version works. But I don't want to limit myself by using 32 over 64.

hollow forge
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I encountered some problems repeatedly when I installed it.

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It has been circulating.

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23-09-03 04:13:44 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.8.4
23-09-03 04:13:44 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant with tag 2023.8.4.
23-09-03 04:14:46 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.8.4: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.42/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.8.4/json: Not Found ("No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.8.4")
23-09-03 04:14:46 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
23-09-03 04:15:16 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.8.4

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I installed it on the Raspberry Pi 4b.

stray otter
# raven forge Yeah. Upgrading is rather simple

Hey - made a little progress.
Commented out dtoverlay=vc4-fkms-v3d
Now I see the pi try to boot in Uboot, but restarts with error:
"Synchronous Abort" handler, esr 0x96000004
Then keeps doing this over and over

raven forge
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Unfortunately I don't know what causes this and don't have a pi 4 to reproduce. Thanks for the update though. It's still interesting to me

topaz monolith
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Hey all, I'm in the middle of installing the Linux image on a VM in Unraid and I'm currently sat with the following message in the terminal: "A start job is running for HAOS swap (53min 2s / no limit)".

Given it's referring to swap could this just be a memory limitation as to why it's taking so long? I assigned 2.5GB of memory to the VM.

low notch
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I'd guess that 2gb is a minimum for haos

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better have 4gb and up

topaz monolith
versed vapor
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It shouldn't cause any issues with starting on 2gb with smaller installs

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Following similar stuff on the forum, it likely is a faulty installation

opaque musk
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Hey, is it normal I see no restore backup button in Ha docker ?

manic bane
opaque musk
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Ok I did it manually, it worked, but not sure the offical doc handle this topic of restoring for containers

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Im migrating my Ha + mosquitto + influxdb + grafana to a new pi The ha config part worked perfect. But it is still connected to the old mqtt server and it spams tons of log about re discovering the senors (not home now, i dont have the exact logs). Is there a guide on how to migrate the mqtt server ?

stray otter
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Anyone aware of a boot.cfg change that may prevent an rpi4 from booting haos 10.5 64 ? Stuck in a reboot loop. Initially couldn't see display until I commented out the VFX setting.

topaz monolith
acoustic thistle
tacit nexus
high ferry
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I have installed Home Assistant on my Windows 10 laptop under Oracle VM VirtualBox. When Home Assistant starts in the virtual area it comes up in a window that appears to be like in the old DOS days with a prompt of "ha > _". I don't know how to get a dashboard installed. Can anyone help this newbee?

humble mirage
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See step #3 there 😉

humble mirage
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Not really relevant to installing HA

silent shuttle
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I totally get that name @humble mirage I'm sitting here looking at my setup in a VM on unraid thats completely stable and trying to decide if I want to buy a cheap baremetal machine because I can... :/

brittle sail
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if unraid is down you still have smart home

slender minnow
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Is there any way to configure networking from the hardware console ("ha >" prompt)? I just did a dumb thing and made it so that networking was broken after a reboot. Now core, supervisor and everything else are stuck in "setup". I can't get it to start hass, so I can't undo the changes I made.

tender wren
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Yes. What needs to be changed?

slender minnow
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I need to re-enable an interface. I can't remember the name. It's not eth0. It's the new style enps0 or something like that.

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I don't see a command under "network" to enable an interface.

tender wren
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How did you disable it?

slender minnow
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Through the web interface. There are two interfaces. I disabled one.

tender wren
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with net info you should be able to determine the name of the network interface

slender minnow
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Yeah, net info only complains about being in setup mode. You can't do anything until it gets out of setup, and that will never happen since networking is messed up

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I just did some foo with the router and made the network happy enough to let hass finish setup

tender wren
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You can do that at the ha> prompt

slender minnow
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ha> network info

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But it won't display any info, only a complaint that it's status is setup

tender wren
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And when you enter login - does ha net info provide a list? Otherwise ip a should work

slender minnow
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Whoa!!!! I never knew the command "login". That changes everything. I spent I don't know how much time trying to escape the ha > prompt

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You just answered every possible follow up question I would have had

nocturne sable
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Hello, I want to move and try to expand the board space by adding an sd-card, but I want to backup before doing so, but the problem is that they won't let me do it:

23-09-04 13:32:18 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'BackupManager.do_backup_partial' blocked from execution, not enough free space (0.9GB) left on the device

How can I manually via console/FileZilla save everything and use the backup afterwards?

nocturne sable
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There are only 4 addons:

eWeLink Smart Home
Mosquitto broker
Tailscale
Zigbee2MQTT

humble mirage
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Maybe delete older backups to free up space?

winged vale
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Help! Raspi4 HAOS: My SD card is dead. I have a full backup I want to restore. I got me a new SD with a new HAOS running. Then I upload and restore the backup file. The connection is terminated and I can wait 20 minutes, but no more response form the HAOS. Rebooting, then I can re-restore the backup, same game. I tried 2 different backups. How long does a restore of approx 1.5 GB take? Is there a way to see the progress?

humble mirage
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How are you uploading that? Web or Samba?

winged vale
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web

humble mirage
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Switch to Samba

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If the backup you are uploading is more than 1GB in size, it can be faster and more efficient to make use of the Samba add-on

winged vale
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Well, the file gets there. In fact I have now both backups on the Pi. I can start the restore process. But then I loos the web connection and I cannot access the HA interface via the browser. How long will a restore process take? Do I need to wait longer? If so, any hint how long that could take?

humble mirage
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On a Pi ... some time

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The supervisor log should have you covered

winged vale
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What do you mean by "The supervisor log should have you coverd"? Any hint for "...some time"? 30 min? 1h 2h? 😉

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I have console access on the local pi display and local keyboard... Will that help?

humble mirage
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The logs should tell you the restore status

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The link above also has details on accessing the logs using the command line

winged vale
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checking....

winged vale
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I keep reading and trying.... How do I get the progress of the restore process?

winged vale
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Okay, over an hour.... 🤪 system is recovered.. Thanks for your moral support. 😃

frank perch
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yeah when restoring on a pi, general rule of thumb is hurry up and wait

winged vale
frank perch
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it's an rpi, wait till your backup is 2gb+

nocturne sable
near quiver
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I installed the HA with the official rpi imager in a ssd and it doesn't boot. It stays in a green screen, it doesn't connect to the ethernet so I don't know what to do 🥹

hoary knot
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How long after the 20 minutes have passed, waiting to set up HA after initial boot, is it ok to reboot? HA seems to take way longer than 20 minutes.. Just let it do its thing, or reboot?

near quiver
strange meadow
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Kann man hier auch Hilfe auf Deutsch bekommen?

tender wren
strange meadow
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So I have to put my questions through the translator first?!

tender wren
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Yes

strange meadow
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Following the instructions from "https://neilzone.co.uk/2023/02/home-assistant-core-raspberry-pi-os-and-python-310" I installed Python 3.11 and then Homeassistant 2023.8.4. Unfortunately I now have an error message. Logger: homeassistant.setup
Source: setup.py:209
First occurred: 13:41:37 (2 occurrences)
Last logged: 13:41:48

Setup failed for stream: Requirements for stream not found: ['ha-av==10.1.1'].
Setup failed for default_config: (DependencyError(...), 'Could not setup dependencies: stream')

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Ich habe auch noch mal die Installation manuel mit "(homeassistant) homeassistant@artus-produktions:~/.homeassistant $ pip3.11 install ha-av" gestartet. Aber ich werde aus der Fehlermeldung nicht schlau.

tender wren
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You are using HA Core, so you have to keep track of dependencies yourself.

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Not really a recommended installation variant

strange meadow
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Not the easiest installation option, yes.

low notch
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You have to install the package inside the venv

white bane
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Hello

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I want to install add-ons but it doesn't display anything...

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hassio/store

low notch
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Clear your browsers cache and check the logs

white bane
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yes

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:8123/energy:1
Uncaught (in promise)
Object
socket.js:34
WebSocket connection to 'ws://192.168.1.119:8123/api/websocket' failed:
socket.js:34
WebSocket connection to 'ws://192.168.1.119:8123/api/websocket' failed:
socket.js:34
WebSocket connection to 'ws://192.168.1.119:8123/api/websocket' failed:
socket.js:34
WebSocket connection to 'ws://192.168.1.119:8123/api/websocket' failed:
socket.js:34
WebSocket connection to 'ws://192.168.1.119:8123/api/websocket' failed:
:8123/config/system:1

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i have reboot ha

strange meadow
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Is the "8175 | __pyx_t_8 = __Pyx_PyInt_From___pyx_anon_enum(AV_CODEC_CAP_OTHER_THREADS); if (unlikely(!__pyx_t_8)) __PYX_ERR(0, 104, __pyx_L1_error)" the error message why the installation of ha-av fails?

raven forge
strange meadow
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Well then it's probably better to try Google.

white bane
raven forge
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Check the supervisor logs and share them. Also check my link

near quiver
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What is the best way to config the raspberry pi if you install the HA os ??

frank perch
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thru a web browser

near quiver
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but the web browser only allows me to config HA, I can't run any other command

tender wren
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What do you want to configure?

near quiver
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the fan mainly

tender wren
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And what is your plan to do?

near quiver
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well I need it to run only when the temp is higher than 80, not all the time

frank perch
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by configuring HA to control the fan, thru the web browser

high token
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the pi itself doesn't have the hardware to control a fan though. I assume you have some hat?

frank perch
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but I could be wrong

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known to happen once in a blue moon (we just had a blue moon too so ya know)

high token
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I didn't actually get what you mean

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but that's mainly me from lack of sleep

frank perch
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well the op said to turn on the fan at 80, so I assumed it's not for a 'computer'

high token
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No he means a fan for the Pi

near quiver
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so how do you run "sudo raspi-config " in the browser ?

high token
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you can't. Not in the browser nor in the command line

frank perch
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well unless it's 80F I presume that rpi would be baked at 80C

high token
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you can reply Jorg sorry 😄

tender wren
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80F (27C) for a ceiling fan or 80C (176F) for a CPU fan shksThink

frank perch
tender wren
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At 80C it should start to throttle down

frank perch
near quiver
frank perch
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well you won't 'miss' the addons, you just have to install them all yourself

tender wren
frank perch
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yeah just read it throttles at 80C which is wild

high token
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what fan do you have?

near quiver
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CPU fan for the rpi 4

high token
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but not a 2 pin fan

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as in usually Pi comes with the simpliest fan ever that just takes power and spins it's not controllable

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unless you have a hat based fan that's connecting to the Pis GPIOs

near quiver
frank perch
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so a 2 pin fan

high token
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Yeah these kind of fans just take power and work

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the only kind of configuration is choosing if you want it riunning at 5 or 3.3V

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the Pi itself doesn't have any hardware to lower voltage for example therefore its speed

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so even if you had RpiOS installed there's no such setting in raspi-config

near quiver
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I see, thanks guys, I'll go with the python way

high token
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why though?

high token
near quiver
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I want to be able to run the raspi-config anyway and you mentioned it's possible to install add-ons either way

tender wren
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Erm... no

frank perch
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not addons but the same software

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and functionality

tender wren
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Add-ons one way - Docker containers other way

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What do you need raspi-config for?

final socket
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Add-ons are only available with HAOS. Most of the software can be installed in docker or whatever and manually configured to work with HA, but it's not addons.

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Also you want a pwm fan if you want some kind of control.

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And that could be configured to work with HAOS.

near quiver
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oks, so I did follow your recommendation and installed the HA OS

high token
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On the first post the person says *This guide is for those that are running Home Assistant OS on a Raspberry (or similar platform) with a case that includes a PWM-controlled CPU fan *

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that's a fan that comes with 3 or 4 pins for controlling its speed

near quiver
final socket
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Yeah

opal vine
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is there any way to know the status of a restore or if it is even happening?

viscid sigil
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Nope. Just be patient. How big is your backup?

wet hound
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Hi, i setup my Home assistant in an old laptop, now the laptop goes in to sleep mode and home assistant is not reachable there's a way to make it stay awake? (im using debian)

humble mirage
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What laptop? Did you check for BIOS settings?

wet hound
humble mirage
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Did you read that link?

wet hound
humble scaffoldBOT
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@wet hound When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
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There's 4 options there

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One is pretty clearly what you want

wet hound
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ok thanks

humble mirage
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Three aren't

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Hint: ||the last one||

near quiver
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Is the HAOS 10.5 broken? the ssh add-on does not work and I can't configure it

frank perch
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I have 3 HAOS boxes on 10.5 and ssh works

near quiver
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how do you configure the SSH ? are they brand new install or upgrades ?

grand pivot
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'I can't configure it' is vague, but try clearing your browser cache

near quiver
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I don't have any tab/option for configure the ssh credentials or anything really, I tried to restart 3 times and clear the cache and 2 reinstalls

empty bloom
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you have to manually add those via yaml

near quiver
empty bloom
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3 dots

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but even before you get to the 3 dots, there will be a configuration tab

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which by default shows a series of fields that are available

near quiver
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I saw it!! thanks

near quiver
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probably last question, how can I edit the configuration.yaml ?

humble mirage
hidden hemlock
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Hi! I'm considering buying a Pi3 to install HA in it. Is there any benefit in it having an ethernet port? Asking not just for installing HA, but for whatever need might come up in the future.

humble mirage
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Don't buy the Pi3, buy something better

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And yes, wired networking is a lot better than WiFi

hidden hemlock
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I'm as newbie as it gets, so getting something better than a Pi board (which already is a lot for me, never even saw one) might be overkill. Thanks for the reply!

humble mirage
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Pi4 would be better than a Pi3

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Pi4 + powered USB hub + SSD is a pretty solid starter platform

raven forge
hidden hemlock
near quiver
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Avoid the raspi 4 with official fan. I'm having a nightmare to make it work!

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actually I just made it work ! thanks for everyone here that helped me

hidden hemlock
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Last one: is the HA Yellow not a good option?

raven forge
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It's kinda niche. Let's just say I wouldn't buy it but I'm biased

empty loom
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Where can I get cheap tuya smart light switches where I don’t have to use any resistors?

humble scaffoldBOT
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@empty loom Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

fallen tundra
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Currently running HA in Virtual Box 6.1 on Windows 10. Got a notice that Virtual Box 7.1 is available.

  1. Is it safe to upgrade my Virtual Box? What issues should I look for?
  2. While Googling this topic found references that VMWare was much faster
    a) is this True
    b) are there any guides for moving from Virtual Box to VmWare?

Thanks

frank perch
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VMWare is not just one product, but a family of products

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VMWare ESXi would be the only one I'd imagine faster then VBox

copper steppe
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I can't imagine that vmware is "much faster", especially not vmware workstation

raven forge
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I wonder how it compares to hyper-v

frank perch
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I am not masochistic so I dunno

silent shuttle
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I'm thinking we are in a discord group for software then can almost run on a potato so what difference does speed mean for VM lol

copper steppe
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Yeah, I figure it doesn't matter if it runs at 5% cpu load or 10% or 20%.
Or if it takes 1second or 5 seconds to do some thing

frank perch
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and I do more than the 'average' user

frank perch
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😛

silent shuttle
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@copper steppe I'm more pointing out that the difference in efficiency between different hypervisors probably won't be noticeable

copper steppe
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100% agree

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Hell, the app is in python. If we cared about "performance" it'd be in something faster.

silent shuttle
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I'm kicking myself in the butt right now I got lazy and used a samba share for unraid while backing up my games for a new computer build and my god is it slow

frank perch
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it's just faster and easier for me to re-dl my games

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well, that's when I'm not on IPoAC internet

silent shuttle
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I got craptastic DSL 120 Mbit however its unlimited and super stable and I hate comcast

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Anyhow temp NFS share setup because I stopped being so lazy

summer pagoda
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Digitalstrom Integration

fickle plover
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I think this falls here... so i am "upgrading/migrating" from a pi to a sff pc, and well... my HA install is old (core-2022.2.6). What would the best way to "backup" this and migrate it over to the latest on the new machine? Is there a specific filetype backup that i can restore on the new system since there is no "snapshot/backup" on my current version?

frank perch
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Copy your config folder (and all the hidden files)

fickle plover
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right, all of .homeassistant./* but what about the restore?

grand pivot
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that's the "copy"

fickle plover
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got it all, was a silly sudo issue preventing .storage/ files being copied... now that i have the tar.gz with the backup, can that be just restored on the new machine or do i have to manually bring that over and unpack it there?

humble mirage
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You have to manually unpack it unless you're using HAOS

high ferry
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Step 3 of the installation instructions does not work. Everything I try brings up box stating could not connect. I am wireless with Starlink. Can anyone help?

humble mirage
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What step 3 of which instructions?

high ferry
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Step 3 of the Home Assistant installation. I have installed on my Win 10 laptop and running under Oracle VM VirtualBox.

tender wren
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You might want to link the instructions you are following

high ferry
humble mirage
granite yoke
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hi guys i need help

high ferry
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Yes. Does not work.

humble mirage
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Look at the console, does it show you an IP address?

granite yoke
humble mirage
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You can't uninstall, you have to flash the SD card with your chosen OS

granite yoke
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like how

humble mirage
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Hopefully nothing was on that SD card that you wanted to keep

granite yoke
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there were things i can dowloand again

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nothing to special

humble mirage
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Then just flash it the same way you did before

high ferry
humble mirage
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Did you make sure that you used Bridged networking?

granite yoke
high ferry
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I don't know what "Bridged networking" is or how to set it up??

humble mirage
granite yoke
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home assistant

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if you mean this

humble mirage
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What do you want to uninstall?

granite yoke
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i want to have back my hardware cuz i have 512 GB disk and now there is som Hassos boot whit only 39 mb

humble mirage
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Right, so ... what OS do you want there? Debian? Raspberry Pi OS? Something else?

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You flashed it with HAOS so... you replaced whatever was there

granite yoke
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yes

humble mirage
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Yes is not an answer to that question

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Yes says you're not reading

granite yoke
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as os

humble mirage
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That's what you have now, yes

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What's the problem?

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i want to have back my hardware cuz i have 512 GB disk and now there is som Hassos boot whit only 39 mb
What do you mean?

granite yoke
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i had surefire hard disk

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with 512 gb now its called hassos boot with 39 mb and cant go back and have back my surefire

granite yoke
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iam very sorry for this i know i am stupid

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but i need help

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please

humble mirage
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What is "surefire"?

granite yoke
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the hard disk

humble mirage
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Sorry... but I can't understand what you're trying to explain

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You keep talking in circles

granite yoke
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that my hard disk is now hassos boot

humble mirage
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Right... and what do you want instead?

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You flashed HAOS, you have HAOS

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That'll use the entire disk

granite yoke
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and can i have it back somehow like uninstalion

near quiver
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You can overwrite at any time

granite yoke
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how

humble mirage
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You can't uninstall because you over-wrote the entire disk

granite yoke
humble scaffoldBOT
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@granite yoke When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
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Hopefully nothing was on that SD card that you wanted to keep

granite yoke
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no but now i dont have my 512 GB

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so iam just stupid and i lost like 200 hundred dollars

hoary knot
# humble mirage What is "surefire"?

Apparently, a surefire hard drive is some sort of external gaming drive in either SSD or HDD option. Kazy, may want it back for his gaming console

granite yoke
near quiver
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You still have 512 GB, you don't have that data anymore but you can still use them

granite yoke
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how it shows me that there is only 39 mb

near quiver
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It must be 4 partitions

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You are probably looking to one of them only

granite yoke
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i look for owerwriting the disk byck to what it was without the data

near quiver
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You can't undo

granite yoke
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so i have nothing now

humble mirage
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The disk is still there, fully usable

raven forge
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But you can probably format it so you can use all its size in windows again

humble mirage
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You just dedicated it all to HA

near quiver
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You can format the whole dish

humble mirage
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That you can only see 39 MB is a Windows problem

granite yoke
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guys sorry for interupting tinkerer and all of you thanks for help

humble mirage
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Good luck

fallen tundra
# fallen tundra Currently running HA in Virtual Box 6.1 on Windows 10. Got a notice that Virtu...

Many thanks to all those who commented on the speed issue. I agree that choice of VM should not have major impact on speed, but thought I would check my thinking here. I will not be moving to VMWare, so info of migration is not needed.

I did go ahead and upgrade my Virtual Box installation to 7.1. My HA virtual machine restarted without incident. So far have about 10 hours of uptime with out issues. So it is looking good. If I encounter issues with Virtual Box 7.1 I will report back.

Thanks

velvet arrow
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Heya folks. Just moved from HAOS to HA Container, and moved all my stuff by copying the Config folder, however, I need to get rid of the "hassio" and "raspberry_pi" integrations that got transferred with the config folder. Where on earth do I find them?

raven forge
north radish
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Are there any plans to have HAOS included/supported by the PINN bootloader?
Would be very handy.

twin mantle
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Hello friends,

I'm excited to have found this Discord group, as I have a beginner question about my setup😁 . I've installed Home Assistant directly onto my hardware without using Proxmox, Docker, or any virtualization software. I simply used Ubuntu by downloading it to a USB drive, booting from it and install home assistant to my hardware, and then removing the USB drive, leaving my system dedicated to running Home Assistant.

My question is whether this setup is okay or if it might cause problems in the future or restrict the system's capabilities?🤔

versed vapor
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does it work?

twin mantle
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yes

versed vapor
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if yes then the setup indeed is capable of running haos

velvet arrow
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It's a convoluted way of installing it but if it works I guess it works

versed vapor
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using the direct installation way makes some maintenance tasks a bit more difficult but really if you dont want anything else its plenty fine

twin mantle
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Yes, it's true. For example, if I have a problem and its solution involves a command line in Linux, I can't solve it because I do not have Linux on my system; I just have Home Assistant.

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If I encounter a problem like that, can I insert a Ubuntu USB into my Home Assistant hub, start the PC from the USB, open Ubuntu, and resolve the issue using the Ubuntu terminal?

tender wren
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Home Assistant OS is basically Linux. There shouldn't be many problems, which could be solved with a Ubuntu USB boot and not with HAOS itself

glad wraith
velvet arrow
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Just migrated from HAOS to Docker. Anyone know how I sort this one?


    hassio (Show logs)
    raspberry_pi (Show logs)

Please check your config and logs.
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Can't find the configs for it under .storage and since it was a HAOS install obvs nothing under the config.yml

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Take it they're part of Default_Config? If so is there a way to remove these 2 or do I just live with this unless I recreate my HA instance from scratch?

grand pivot
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What about the logs?

velvet arrow
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They just complain aboiut not being able to set up dependencies and missing Env vars

grand pivot
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Hassio is just for HAOS

velvet arrow
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I'm aware

tender wren
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hassio might be the supervisor integration (which isn't there anymore in Docker)

velvet arrow
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It got transfered with the config folder

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As I didn't want to lose my config

velvet arrow
grand pivot
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Remove them from configuration -> Integrations

velvet arrow
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Don't have an Integration tab under the dev settings

tender wren
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Is it deletable in Settings - Devices&Services - Integrations?

velvet arrow
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Nah, neither show up in there

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It's where I went to check first

tender wren
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I think the integrations are stored in .storage/core.config_entries. But I'm not sure, if it is a good idea to recommend editing it 🤔 😆

velvet arrow
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Yeah had a look at that one, then I respectfully backed away and wished it a very fine evening 😄

humble mirage
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With a good backup already downloaded and knowledge of JSON you can edit that file with HA stopped

velvet arrow
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It's looking more and more like that might be my only option.

twin mantle
# glad wraith I don't remember the last time I had a problem that required the command line, b...

I mean, let me describe what happened to me today. I downloaded DuckDNS, but later its URL didn't work, and the local URL was also unresponsive. To resolve the issue, I had to use Linux command line to delete two lines from the configure.yaml file.

Unfortunately, I couldn't access the Home Assistant interface, and I couldn't directly manage it through the Home Assistant Terminal Hub because it doesn't understand Linux command lines. Consequently, I decided to uninstall Home Assistant and then reinstall it.

This experience has left me concerned about encountering more problems in the future and having to resort to drastic measures like I did today, such as deleting my Home Assistant. That's why I'm seeking advice on how to handle such situations better.

humble mirage
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HAOS is an appliance, you don't get the "full" Linux experience

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However, if you'd set up the SSH add-on you could have done that the way you expected

velvet arrow
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Cheers for the sanity check guys 👍

raven forge
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You can also type login into that "hub" but advanced linux and docker knowledge is recommended to use it and the addon is mostly all you need and should use

severe fable
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Has anyone installed home assistant on and old laptop and use the built in BT and wlan chip for IOT devices. While maintaining LAN for normal network access?

brisk willow
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Use the wireless card in relation to IoT devices how? You might be able to use the built-in Bluetooth with the Bluetooth integration, but I'm not sure what you're thinking with the Wi-Fi side of things

severe fable
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Setting the wlan as its own network and have all IOT devices connect to that instead of a seperate network off my router

brisk willow
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Should be possible to set up, but why would you want to do that?

severe fable
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Complete isolation from my actual network. Also if I move or replace my router. Everything will be backup and on the laptop. So no new setup or configurations required

placid burrow
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With only a few exceptions, client WLAN cards in laptops are terrible at being access points.

brisk willow
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How often are you realistically replacing your router? Moving to a new router with no way to restore a settings backup wouldn't take much time with a few SSIDs and simple firewall rules

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I feel like you'd be setting yourself up for pain

severe fable
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As I rent and constantly need to move
Due to the every increasing prince in rent. I also won't have access to full control of the router as well. Like I do here

brisk willow
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why not use your own router instead of the ISP's modem/router?

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Get your own modem and router or put the ISP modem/router in bridge mode and use your own router

severe fable
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My last two places these were provided and locked down by the landlords so other tenants couldn't control or mess with the router.

brisk willow
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Dafuq

severe fable
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The troubles of renting/ flatting. If I had my own place I would %100 set it up the way you suggest

brisk willow
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Is that common in your area? I've always brought my own internet equipment when I've rented in the past

severe fable
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Not always. The landlord rents the property and then sort of sublets the place out. Yes pretty sure it's illegal to do so. Or it's a flatting environment where I pay for a room with a lock and we have communal areas. This second option is more common.

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So we all.pay the landlord rent. Power and internet and they then pay the actual bill. So if anyone moves out the place does.nitnneed to worry about having to sign up for power and internet.

brisk willow
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Yikes

final socket
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Yeah that's not uncommon, but even then usually the internet stuff isn't locked down like that ime.

severe fable
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In one place I was at. I was the only one who stayed for 3 years straigh and every 6-12 months they would leave and be replaced. So imaging the hassle of trying to setup power and internet everytime

placid burrow
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Do/can you get a wired network connection, or just a WiFi network to connect to?
If it's just WiFi, a travel router could solve this reasonably well for you. I like this model (about $70 USD), but there are plenty to choose from: https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-ar750s/
It can connect to another WiFi network to use as it's "WAN" interface, and broadcast its own network (for your devices).
Plug the HA server (whatever piece of hardware that ends up being) into that router, and enjoy your (mostly) isolated network.
It causes double-NAT headaches for a lot of devices, but your average smart lightbulb doesn't really care about that.

severe fable
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We have the wifi password and LAN points in all rooms. But none could access the router and change anything to suit themselves

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I suspect a few previous people were rather nasty with controlling the network to suit themselves. So I do understand that need to restrict it

brisk willow
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So what you described is interesting to me heh

severe fable
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Yes that's the norm if I am renting on my own which I currently am. But generally sharehouses or flats have one person in charge of power and rent. Plus if everyone in the sharehouse pays the landlord then none can say they aren't paying as the landlords job is to ensure its all sorted. Removing any blame causng friction in the house

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My lease is up soon and the landlord wants to increase the price. So just trying to cover as many possible scenarios before I get stuck in the boat

storm sluice
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what is a sharehouse? a house you rent with other people?

severe fable
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Oh I'm in Australia by the way

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Yes

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A share house has a communal area and we essentially pay rent for out own locked bedroom. This cost also covers things like power, internet. My last place had a cleaner for communal areas, Gardner and pool guy

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Yes it was a but costly. But there was no arguments over who had to clean the bathroom and such. Our only job was to keep it reasonably tidy and wash/dry our own dishes

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Flatting is just that you all.pay a percentage of the rent and all communal bills except food and you each have jobs to clean based on a roster

manic bane
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Usually one takes internet, one takes power, etc

severe fable
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Its happened two me twice. It must as the place was one block from the uni so he was capitalising on the mass of students and kept cycling through

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The flats have all had utilities covered by the flatmates living in the house.

severe fable
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We have kind of digressed way to much from the original question at hand. I'll keep an eye out for something so I can keep for internal access for IOT devices

versed vapor
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Is there a way to switch from updating haos over GitHub to Dockerhub

raven forge
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Just change the image

versed vapor
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Can't migrate to .9 as their service seems to be faulty yet again

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I suppose that would need to be done in some config?

raven forge
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How are you running it right now? docker run or docker compose?

versed vapor
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Neither, it's an haos installation

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So kinda whatever shipped in that image

raven forge
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In that case I'm not sure

versed vapor
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Hm guess I need to wait it out then

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Will poke it with a stick, maybe that will help

raven forge
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Re-reading your message it seems like I completely missed the haos in updating haos or my brain translated it to HA. Sorry about that

versed vapor
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All good 👍

hybrid mauve
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hi everyone!

is there any other option to install home assistant with addons without the OS or debian supervised method?

I'm looking for another way 😉

tender wren
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The "other way" is to use Docker containers. You just have to configure it without UI.

copper steppe
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Or run os in a vm?

hybrid mauve
hybrid mauve
copper steppe
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What’s your host os?

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I’m way too lazy to diy addon containers so my homelab is all proxmox

hybrid mauve
tender wren
hybrid mauve
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just a noob question.
the home assitant os is the same solution as the supervised one?

it has the supervisor automatically installed?

tender wren
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Yes. HAOS is the appliance type install. You have very limited control on OS level.
And you are supposed to use the Supervisor controlled add-ons and not using own containers (that might break the system).
Convenient - but limited

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If you want to have more control the Container install can be used.
You would have to do the container configuration and updating yourself.
More powerful, but also more demanding

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Core installation is more something for developers - you would have to care for every dependency yourselt.

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And Supervised... It's some abomination from hell

manic bane
rotund gazelle
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s6rc-oneshot-runner is running since hours. Any idea how to figure out why that is happening? (2023.9.0)

shrewd depot
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Is there something wrong with the Docker Container? I'm getting the following issue from Watchtower: time="2023-09-07T04:00:54Z" level=info msg="Unable to update container /home-assistant, err='Error response from daemon: Head "https://ghcr.io/v2/home-assistant/home-assistant/manifests/stable": Get "https://ghcr.io/token?scope=repository%3Ahome-assistant%2Fhome-assistant%3Apull&service=ghcr.io": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)'. Proceeding to next."

humble mirage
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That's not a container problem, that's a host/networking problem

shrewd depot
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Ok, how would i troubleshoot further?

humble mirage
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Start by checking if you can pull other images from GHCR

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Check if you can pull images from Docker hub

heady reef
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Hello everyone, I have a problem with my home assistant : Im forgot my password but im log out from this. i try to delete my current os in Rass pie but cannot create new onboarding. Please help me how to get start the new account with current rass pie

humble mirage
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Otherwise, flash HAOS fresh and start again

heady reef
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i have to connect monitor and key board in my Pie right?

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But now i dont have keyboard and monitor that can connect

humble mirage
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Yes, that's correct

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Those are your only two choices

shrewd depot
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Seems i can't pull containers from GHCR

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Docker Hub seems to work

humble mirage
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Just tested and there's no problems here, so it looks like a problem local to you

shrewd depot
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Ok. guess i will have to troubleshoot elsewhere then. thanks!

junior vortex
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when clicking "Next" on the onboarding process when asking about which units to use. i see in the console that this generates a 401 unauthorized

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changed browsers, that fixed it

daring jay
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Hi, We are planning to use homeassitant in openwrt, anybody can support feeds/package based installation steps ?

manic bane
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Why

daring jay
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yes @manic bane , we have a openwrt based wifi router device, so planning to integrate HA on that

humble mirage
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People have done it, sometimes it even not been a disaster

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There should be writeups on the forum, from people who've managed it (and many more threads from people struggling to get it working)

silent shuttle
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That sounds painful.....

floral blade
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Not a question - just an observation -- installed this morning on a Pi4 flawlessly. The documentation is great, and now have a few things to do post install (zwave, zigbee setups/configs and push via Homekit Bridge to my apple ecosystem) but its a pleasure to work on a toolkit / solution that is well documented for a change ❤️

hearty oar
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Hey, i'm trying to install Home Assistant OS on my Raspberry Pi 4 but i'm having some difficulties. I followed the documentation and reached the point where I have to wait for Home Assistant to prepare, but i'm juts forever stuck on this page (around 1 hour), i tried to reinstall like 5 times.
After a "supervisor log" I can see that I keep getting those errors:
"Watchdog miss API response from Home Assistant"
"Watchdog found a problem with Home Assistant API!"
"Home Assistant watchdog reanimation failed!"

I can't find much about this error on the forums, does anyone have a solution for this? 🙏

umbral girder
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So this new release has been a disaster for me.

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I've never seen a Home Assistant release upgrade fail so badly

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Error returned from Supervisor: System is not ready with state: setup

tender wren
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Oh, I remember the broken MQTT release - good old times

umbral girder
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I also have zero backups listed in the default UI even though I always use the Create Backup option when I upgrade.

versed vapor
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Local backups are pretty much no backups

lucid maple
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Ideally you would want to create and download the backup before upgrading. FWIW I just upgraded mine and it was fine.

swift plinth
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Just getting started, haven't installed HA or purchased a pi. Question - the configuration of my house requires meshing due to brick walls (wiring is too hard). I am running eero 6's and am curious if I will need to create a second mesh setup to run home assistant. Should I just get started and worry about this later or is there something I need to keep in mind now when purchasing a pi and the initial install?

lucid maple
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Wired is always better, but I suppose that's up to you. Why not just put the pi where the networking equipment is and plug it in?

raven forge
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WiFi isn't really recommended. Any reason (besides WiFi) that it has to be a pi?

silent shuttle
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@@swift plinth are you worried about pi's connection or your smart home devices(planning on wifi devices?) I would suggest going zwave if you're worried about getting through walls(lower frequency)

swift plinth
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It doesn't have to be a pi! I just saw that as the first recommendation on the install. What I understood (which may be incorrect) is that the pi connects to devices via wifi. Based on what @silent shuttle said that may not be the case. Am I limited to only zwave devices or can I have a mix of zwave/zigbee/wifi? Sorry I am completely new

frank perch
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No one recommends HA hosted on wifi

silent shuttle
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@swift plinth lets step back, what @frank perch is saying is to not connect the PI itself via wifi, any HA device shoudl be hardwired into the network. That being said there ARE wifi smart devices that can be used.

frank perch
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Yes that is correct

silent shuttle
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I only suggested Zwave because it does a better job with thick walls due to lower frequency(2.4mhz vs 900mhz)

frank perch
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End devices being wifi is fine. The server hosting them is not

silent shuttle
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Thank you @frank perch for being more clear then my answer

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Another thing to note is zwave and zigbee are mesh, so as long as you get a connection room to room even with thick walls you maybe surprised by the connectivity

swift plinth
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Thank you. So my understanding is that the raspberry pi is the server/standalone system that controls devices that are connected to it - and those connections occur via a router (to which my pi is physically connected to), and/or a zigbee/zwave hub. Is that correct?

swift plinth
raven forge
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The recommendation for a pi is a powered USB hub, a SSD plugged into that hub and a extension cable for your zigbee/z-wave sticks.
I always recommend a mini/(U)SFF PC which is usually more powerful, reliable, flexible (more software, extendable) and cheaper.

swift plinth
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I agree but am not a power user and the pi install process seems well documented. Could you direct me to the appropriate documentation for that type of setup?

humble mirage
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For what?

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99.9% of "that type of setup" is identical to any other setup

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The only thing that's different is the install process for HA itself

raven forge
# swift plinth I agree but am not a power user and the pi install process seems well documented...

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#install-home-assistant-operating-system
The difference is mostly that you flash to a SSD rather than a SD Card.
If you use a SSD there's little difference as you would probably use a external case to connect it to the PC in both cases.
With a PC you can (but don't have to) use it itself to flash the software to a connected (internal, for example) disk by booting off of a live USB stick.
I usually always reocmmend virtualizing HAOS but it's probably not a good idea in your case just yet as it involves more complexity.

silent shuttle
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Only reason I went with a VM was because I'm running a Unraid setup anyhow, if I didn't have that I would have gone with a SFF PC

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I don't understand the pi thing other then lower power usage, but even that is negligiable in the long run

swift plinth
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SFF pc + external SSD it is

raven forge
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I'd buy one with internal NVMe support

silent shuttle
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On a HA related topic but unrelated to installs I really enjoy buying offbrand chiniese zigbree devices and have them actually work out

swift plinth
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You mentioned cheaper than pi, so that's my only request

raven forge
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Smart Home Sellout recently posted a 6500T one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/285185388260
Prices depend strongly on location. I would not go for a specific model number but look for something that fits the needs.
I'd go to ebay's used PC section, limit by price and buy something >= 4th, preferrably >= 6th gen or so. Amazon might also have something cheap.
Remember to include a PSU, a powered USB HUB and storage into the pi's price comparison.

silent shuttle
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You can't judge it by the device price, you also need to add i the accessories that it takes to make a pi viable

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You can get cheaper SFF however those looks like they woudl be good togo, plenty of storage, plenty of ram and heck you could probably run some other no HA dockers in there as well, don't need internal wifi really

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This is actually a better option IMO

swift plinth
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The one you just posted is actually pretty close to me

silent shuttle
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He's free shipping either way

swift plinth
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alrighty i'm going to go for your rec. thank you for your help @raven forge @silent shuttle @frank perch

opaque mirage
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Hi There
I’m new to HA and purchased HA yellow.
It consists of the following items :

Home Assistant Yellow Kit with Power Supply
Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 - 2GB RAM, 32GB eMMC
4/5.0GHz Wi-Fi & Bluetooth 5.0 (CM4102032
NVME SSD 512GB(M.2 M-Key
I followed this Getting started guide( https://yellow.home-assistant.io/power-supply-nvme/)
i get to step 10 of the Installing Home Assistant software on kit, the yellow led is on (extended period) with the red led
Then as instructed in 10 I follow "this procedure ". https://yellow.home-assistant.io/guides/issue-while-installing-os-on-emmc/
Download the latest haos-yellow img file " haos_yellow-10.5.img.xz
install rpiboot with windows installer
follow " how to reinstall the operating system
I used option 2, when I run rpi boot nothing happens.

And that’s where I’m at 😐 Any help will be appreciated

tender wren
spare rock
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GM. I have been running HA for 3 years. HA Core running on a RPI updated up to HA 2022.6.6. I am finally making the move to HA OS on a x86. I have 10.5 installed and HA 2023.9.0. I am trying to find a good post or article on how to move my config from HA Core to HA OS. I found some articles about copying the files with hidden directories, but no details on how to copy - SCP, FTP, etc. Most were about restoring backups, but my Core 2022.6.6 does not have a back up option. I am assuming I can do something like stop services, copy existing config and then restart and fix errors. Any help or link would be appreciated. TY.

empty bloom
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just copy the contexts of your entire config folder, including the hidden files. Do this while HA Core is off. So use SSH to stop HA Core, then move the files over. You can use samba share to make it drag and drop. Otherwise you have to learn how to properly SCP files over yourself

spare rock
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TY

spare rock
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@empty bloom thanks for the help. I was able to install SSH, copy everything over with WinSCP, and staged the old config with both services off. Just need to clean up some errors and config that was deprecated.

obsidian spoke
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I have trouble with Cloudflared and using an Origin Full strict certificate to access homeassistant from the same network. With mobile data the homeassistant is accessible cause its going through the internet.

brisk willow
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What happens when you try to access it on your LAN?

obsidian spoke
brisk willow
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Well you can set an internal network URL that the app will connect to based on the SSID you're connected to

obsidian spoke
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yes and Im adding the local IP of the homeassistant, shall i add there the domain name as well?

brisk willow
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You'd want that for the external setting

obsidian spoke
brisk willow
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(Home Assistant URL)

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And your internal connection URL looks like http://10.0.1.3:8123/ but with the IP address or hostname of the HA host?

still trench
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hi guys. Sorry for interruption. Can anyone help me with installing ssl certificates on home assistant? I have my own domain with an rsa ssl certificate. In the dns i pointed the a record to my private ip. but how to get it working so i can get external access to home assistant through https ?

brisk willow
obsidian spoke
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yes I have the local IP, https://192.168.10.51:8123

brisk willow
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Do you actually have SSL enabled in HA? If not, it needs to be http, not https

obsidian spoke
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it was working fine with the Full of cloudflare and fullchain.pem and after adding the origin and full strict it failed

brisk willow
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You don't need to enable SSL in HA itself or even have an origin server cert installed for cloudflared to be encrypted

obsidian spoke
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The thing is that i have a static IP for my house

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and a domain name that points to that IP

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i wanted to stop any access that were going directly to my IP

brisk willow
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Your domain name doesn't need to have a DNS record with your WAN IP address for cloudflared to work

still trench
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hi guys. Sorry for interruption. Can anyone help me with installing ssl certificates on home assistant? I have my own domain with an rsa ssl certificate. In the dns i pointed the a record to my private ip. but how to get it working so i can get external access to home assistant through https ?

lone pendant
reef parcel
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I'm getting an error installing Home Assistant

ERROR: No matching distribution found for mac-vendor-lookup>=0.1.12

as well as

2023-09-08 21:18:20.069 ERROR (SyncWorker_1) [homeassistant.util.package] Unable to install package home-assistant-frontend==20230906.1: ERROR: Cannot install home-assistant-frontend==20230906.1 because these pack
age versions have conflicting dependencies.                                                                                                                                                                          
ERROR: ResolutionImpossible: for help visit https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/topics/dependency-resolution/#dealing-with-dependency-conflicts```
north quartz
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Hi, i'm trying to diagnose an issue with the Leviton integration, I want to look at the logs, but when I click on Settings -> System -> Logs -> Download full log, it fails to download. If I click on Load Full Logs, it just hangs on "Loading full log…". I'm using the latest version, 9.1 running on a Raspberry Pi 4

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Any tips on how to diagnose and fix?

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Although I do have the Studio Code integration, and from there in the config folder I can see home-assistant.log and .log.1, as these the main log files?

raven forge
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Yeah. You can also run ha logs or docker logs homeassistant via SSH if you use HAOS

north quartz
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From an SSH terminal, "ha logs" doesn't work

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typing in just "ha" shows the help and I can't see a logs command

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ah ha, "ha core logs"

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Ah ha, load full logs works fine if I access the server via local network... if I access via the remote Cloudflare tunnel, some reason it's blocking

raven forge
still trench
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how can i add my external domain with rsa certificate in homeassistant

still trench
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hi i'm trying to get my domain with ssl certificate on trans-ip running on ha. anyone can help me with this

earnest pilot
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This is a better place for the conversation

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There is an addon for home assistant called Duck DNS that does a lot of the heavy lifting for you.

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it updates your duck dns IP address from home assistant, you just need to forward the ports through your router to your HA instance. But again be sure you know exactly what security implications are of doing this.

manic bane
thorn heart
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Insatl Homassistant on my synology nas

oblique galleon
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Can anyone provide assistance to a non-tech smart granny trying to add home assistant via raspberry pi. I followed all the instructions but when i got to enter the info in requires in the browser i get an error.

fickle hatch
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I just started myself, but what's the error? it might give a hint

humble mirage
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The errors usually provide a good hint, most of the vague ones have been improved over the years.

green patrol
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Hello Friends
I just did a fresh installation of homeassistant supervised on debian 12

Getting the following errors

23-09-10 01:10:53 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.9.1: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.9.1/json: Internal Server Error ("readlink /var/lib/docker/overlay2: invalid argument")
23-09-10 01:10:53 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
23-09-10 01:11:23 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.9.1
23-09-10 01:11:23 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface

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Please guide how to fix this

humble mirage
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Best fix is probably going to be to use HAOS instead

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There's no good reason to use Supervised on a Pi

green patrol
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Is ther a way to run Java Runtime on haos

humble mirage
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Only with add-ons, same as Supervised unless you want to ignore the requirements and end up with a system you can't upgrade

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(or one that just stops working)

green patrol
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Can you plz point to java runtime addon

humble mirage
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#add-ons-archived could help, but you should explain what your actual goal is (over there, not here)

green patrol
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Just need to run a Jar file at homeassistant boot

humble mirage
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Why?

humble scaffoldBOT
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The XY problem is asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem.

frail hemlock
#

There is no way to set up multiple WLans, is it? I have two Wlans in my flat and as long I'm just testing and transporting the raspberry, I don't know where it is going to live

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I can't access the wpa_supplicant.conf, can I?

manic bane
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Just use ethernet

lilac cairn
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I get the following error message This site can’t be reachedhomeassistant.local’s server IP address could not be found.
Try:

Checking the connection
Checking the proxy, firewall, and DNS configuration
Running Windows Network Diagnostics
ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

stuck wasp
#

Any reason why HA wont recognize a backed up file, that was downloaded to a windows machine? file not altered, still has .tar extension, but trying to just upload to another HA (both current on updates) says not a .tar file.

obsidian hollow
#

Just upgraded to 2023.9.1 and http://homeassistant.local/ nolonger works, but I found the IP and that does. Not sure what got messed up. Anyone else have this?

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running Home Assistant Operating System install

manic bane
obsidian hollow
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oh damn Facepalm

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Had NordVPN running, LOL

drowsy wharf
#

I installed HA on a RPI4 and now Raspbian won't boot and I can't access HA front end. What did I miss?

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I am stuck at the HA command line prompt

tender wren
frail hemlock
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(Impossible to set up 2 passwords and networks?)

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I should not carry around a server, too.

tender wren
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It should be possible with multiple WiFi radios - one for each network.

frail hemlock
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well, the OS can do it. You only need the credentials for each network and save it in the wpa_supplicant.conf

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I just don't know how to access it in home assistant

tender wren
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WiFi can be configured in the UI

frail hemlock
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But only for a single SSID or can I store multiple passwords?

tender wren
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Does your host have multiple Wifi adapters?

frail hemlock
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Why should it need multiple Wifi adapters?

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It is not going to use all of them at once.

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Just like a mobile phone stores multiple passwords in case one of those wifis is around.

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It works with a raspberry pi 4 just as well as with every other device. At least as long you can access the file to store the credentials.

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And that's the question right now: How to store multiple passwords.

tender wren
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Good to know. Until now you just talked about setting up multiple WiFis.
You could set up the Advanced SSH & Web Terminal add-on and disable Protection mode.
Afterwards you could try to use nmcli to add multiple SSIDs. If it autoconnects to the next available one... shksShrug

finite oar
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Hey everyone, trying to setup docker-compose with Home Assistant.
Is there any way to do this without network mode as host?

raven forge
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Sure, just give it 8123 as port but there's a reason host is in the docs

finite oar
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Whats that reason?

raven forge
finite oar
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So just device discovery?

raven forge
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No. Click the link and read it and the next few messages

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Any reason you can't or don't want to use host mode?

tawny thorn
#

Anyone have experience trying to boot hassos generic_aarch64.img on a Rock5b using edk2 uefi ?

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I'd love to be able to edit the install image to include the dts files for the board.

paper cove
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Hello can someone help i installed HA for docker compose and when i try to connect to it it says it can't astablich the connection

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I am on arch linux and standalone docker

humble mirage
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You used host networking?

paper cove
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shouldn't I have?

humble mirage
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You should have

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Now... check the logs for the container, and in your HA config folder

paper cove
#

what am I looking for ? errors?

civic flicker
#

On AMD, VirtualBox .. takes HA so long to come up. Any thoughts?

humble mirage
humble mirage
humble scaffoldBOT
#
Repairs

Open your Home Assistant instance and show your repairs

civic flicker
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No.. I moved from an Intel laptop to this AMD machine.. the base system is faster, has more memory, etc? No idea what’s going on.

humble mirage
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Go to repairs and then dotsvertical in the top right

humble mirage
civic flicker
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You might need to help me with that.. please

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And… do we need to install guest extensions?

paper cove
# humble mirage Well... anything to tell you what's going on

this is the only thing that looks out of place but that was from yesterday when I first started the container up: WARNING (Recorder) [homeassistant.components.recorder.util] The system could not validate that the sqlite3 database at //config/home-assistant_v2.db was shutdown cleanly

humble mirage
humble scaffoldBOT
#

If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

humble mirage
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That too

civic flicker
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It looks like there used to be something wrong with configuration in virtualbox. It’s just way slow. Take a really long time to bring up the interface, then even longer before I can login via browser.

humble mirage
#

Have you tried a fresh install to see if it happens there too?

civic flicker
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If I do a fresh install I will lose all my settings and integrations. Right?
I am coming from an Intel laptop to an AMD system. It should be way faster and not dragging like this. Very frustrating.

humble mirage
#

You're running in a VM...

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Start a fresh VM

civic flicker
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Yes.. VirtualBox

humble mirage
#

So... why blow away the current VM?

civic flicker
#

I copied the vdi and setup the machine again

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The laptop I need .. again from intel to AMD.. the desktop is way faster with way more memory, etc

humble mirage
#

Again, start a fresh VM, see if it behaves or not

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If it does then you can take a backup from your current VM and restore it to your new one and see if that works

civic flicker
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OK.. I guess what I am really wondering … is there something in VirtualBox that needs to be different on AMD vs Intel?.. And what about the guest extensions?

humble mirage
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You can't install guest extensions

civic flicker
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OK

humble mirage
#

AMD vs Intel shouldn't matter at all, but ... something is going on with your install

civic flicker
#

Yup

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What is bizarre.. if I “move” the vdi back to the Intel laptop, all is fast again

civic flicker
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It was processors.. My CPU VMM utilization was high. A bit of reading, 1 or 2 is max.. more than that, doesn’t work well.

frank perch
#

could it be that you're using the intel audio driver in the VM, and you don't have that on the AMD host?

civic flicker
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No.. it was too many cores

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I kept noticing the CPU VMM was so dang high…

mint forge
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Hi, I can't remember my uername and password, and my home assistant stopped working yesterday, I have backups, but when I restore it, it asks me for the old credentials, how can I restore the credentials or the add-ons data at least (connect all the zigbee thingies is no fun)

brisk willow
mint forge
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yes I tried what I could, forgot to mention I'm on windows with virtualbox

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just to be sure, after doing a new haos restoring the partial backup with the add-ons does restore all the data?

copper steppe
mint forge
copper steppe
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look in config/.storage/auth (this is a file)

mint forge
fringe steeple
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I'm moving my HA docker installation to a new computer. What is the (presumably) tar command to restore a backup? I've never had to do so 😁

copper steppe
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jsut make a backup from within the ui, then download it to your pc

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open /hassio/backups on your ha frontend

fringe steeple
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Then I need to unpack it onto the NUC's filesystem, tar?

mint forge
copper steppe
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which install are you using? haos?

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@fringe steeple no, reinstall HAOS from scratch, then during install restore the backup

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Make sure you make a full backup

fringe steeple
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Not using HAOS, docker container install. I have the tar.gz file, but need to expand it in the new computer's file system. I presume there is tar command to restore the files

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I haven't done a fresh install for a long time, and never with an existing set of files

copper steppe
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You're not doing anything with the existing files. You're restoring a backup afterwards

fringe steeple
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I have HA running in a docker container on a RasPi, and I'm moving it to a docker container on a NUC. I don't have a restore option in GUI config/backup, just Backup. I can put a compressed backup file into the /backups folder, but I can't see how to restore it, other than probably using tar from a CLI.

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This from the guide you referenced:

Click on the last full backup that you want to restore from. Select Full backup, and enter your backup password (if any). Click on RESTORE, acknowledge the warning, and click on RESTORE again.

isn't available, presumably since I'm not running HAOS

copper steppe
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Dunno, I run haos because I want simple. DIY docker too much hassle.

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You can upload backups via the web ui too, fwiw

#

In docker, I guess you'd just copy the whole /config directory

#

Since it's presumably volume-mounted from the host

fringe steeple
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Good point. I think I'll mount the old drive in the new box and copy the config directory over to the new installation. Thanks for the suggestion. Still, it would be nice to know how to expand the gz file if I Really needed a backup restore.

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@mint forge Look toward the bottom of the lockout link above. #installation-archived message You may need to put the SD card or HDD into another computer to see the auth file to retrieve the user name, unless you have previously set up SSH access to the file system

copper steppe
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Or have console access to the machine

fringe steeple
finite oar
grand pivot
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You just can't do it in a running HA instance, so you need the supervisor. In a container install, stop HA and untar

fringe steeple
#

I get it, but, tar -????

grand pivot
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tar xvfz file.tar.gz

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Or Google 'how to untar or extract a compressed tar file'

#

I'm sure any number of Windows apps can do it too

frank perch
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winrar knows how

fringe steeple
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OK, inside the tar is a gz that contains the tar with all the files. Thanks. Hope I never need it.

humble mirage
#

This is a good time to set up (automated) backups and test restoring them

fringe steeple
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I have automated backups. Testing restore is a very good idea

humble mirage
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And remember, they're only backups once they're off the computer

mint forge
mint forge
frank perch
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👍

brisk willow
plain grail
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Hi, I'm trying to install home assistant on wsl on windows but the python3 -V command shows the python version as 3.10 despite installing 3.11.
How do I change the default version to 3.11?

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Thanks

empty bloom
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if you want to play around with HA on windows, go the docker on windows route

plain grail
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I just thought it would be lighter

empty bloom
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in general, you don't want to use HA on windows

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If you have to, then you really should understand how python works, especially when using core installation method

plain grail
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Oh ok

empty bloom
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HA was not built to run on windows

plain grail
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I'm not a programmer.
I thought I could follow the instructions and install it.

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I see

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Thanks

empty bloom
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Yeah, you can, but you'll have issues

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is there a reason why you chose windows?

plain grail
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I'm trying to run it on my laptop

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Which has windows

empty bloom
#

is it an old laptop?

plain grail
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nope its new

empty bloom
#

or are you just trying to play around?

plain grail
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I wanted to play around before Investing in a raspberry pi or an odroid

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I wanted to try it out

empty bloom
#

ah, yeah, you'll have a hard time

grand pivot
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Use an HAOS VM

empty bloom
#

you'd want to use wsl2 if you can (if your laptop can even run it)

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which will give you what rob is saying

plain grail
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I'm using wsl2

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And I was following the instructions on the docs page

empty bloom
#

which documents?

plain grail
grand pivot
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If you just want to experiment, you should follow the instructions to install VirtualBox (free) and set up an HAOS VM

plain grail
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Cool I'll try that out

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Thanks

tribal linden
#

Can anyone help me? Im kinda failing to setup home assistant on RPI4

raven forge
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If you ask a question

tribal linden
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23-09-11 19:10:04 ERROR (MainThread)
[supervisor.misc.tasks] Watchdog found a problem with
Home Assistant API!
23-09-11 19:10:04 ERROR (MainThread)
[supervisor.misc.tasks] Hone Assistant watchdog
reanimation failed.

empty bloom
#

are you rewriting those messages or copying them from the logs?

tribal linden
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Image to text

empty bloom
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you can't just copy them from the browser?

tribal linden
#

On it... I was on my phone.

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[supervisor.misc.tasks] Watchdog found a problem with Home Assistant API!
23-09-11 19:14:04 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.misc.tasks] Home Assistant watchdog reanimation failed!

empty bloom
#

Also, you have internet connection on this device, correct?

tribal linden
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Yes

empty bloom
#

what install method?

tribal linden
#

Raspberry pi flash tool

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*imager

empty bloom
#

so HAOS?

tribal linden
#

yes

empty bloom
#

should just be flash -> put in flash drive -> turn on pi w/ ethernet connected -> use computer to browse to http://IP:8123 or homeassistant.local -> profit

tribal linden
#

That's exactly what I did

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Oh, page went blank

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Something went wrong loading onboarding, try refreshing

empty bloom
#

just to be sure, you're not on the pi trying to access HA, correct?

tribal linden
empty bloom
#

Ok, then it should just work

#

you have control over your router?

tribal linden
#

ye

empty bloom
#

alright, and you don't have any firewall rules in place?

tribal linden
#

Should I connect with the app now?

empty bloom
#

what app?

#

don't worry about your phone

tribal linden
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Home assistant

empty bloom
#

just use a normal web browser on a normal computer

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once you get in, set up the app after

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keep in mind, if you have a crappy internet connection or a slow raspberry pi, this process can take a couple of hours

tribal linden
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I think its all set

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thx

potent furnace
#

Hi, I've a proxmox HA installation which works well, I'm thinking to move the HA on a rasp4, is it as easy to install extensions ? I mean zigbee2mqtt for exemple

humble mirage
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If you install HAOS there then it's ... exactly the same, just a downgrade of platform performance (and stability if you use an SD card, or use an SSD without a powered USB hub)

signal briar
#

myQ start working randomly for anyone else?

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Kinda looking around commits trying to see if something was changed on pymyq / home assistant but I don’t see nothing so I got no clue but hope and prays it dosent go down again

quaint summit
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wrong channel for this one, but as a long time myQ user, all I can say is don't waste your prayers.

sour jackal
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Running a Rpi3. I am trying to do a pip3 install homeassistant==2023.9.1

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It says version not found

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pip3 install homeassistant==

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just shows up to 2023.1.6

sour jackal
#

Ah, my version of python isn't new enough

brittle sail
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it be like that

wild shale
#

howdy. I'm currently running hass in a container on top of k3s with a few other pods (zwave-js, etc.) as separate containers in my k3s cluster. I migrated to it with my own /config dir from previous installs and it all works. I have to run it as a privilieged container which is undesirable, and kubernetes hostPath with CharDevice is flaky. Though it largely works, it's kind of annoying. So, i'm wondering if i should just pop up a new VM on proxmox (x86_64 host) and move to HA OS. Anyone do that kind of transition? Is it easy to migrate my config? Anything I lose? Is HA OS going to be supported into the future?

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sory for so many questions all in one 🙂

brittle sail
#

i forgive you

brittle sail
#

what are you expecting to gain from haos instead of container install?

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you get the supervisor and addon store but if you are already comfortable with docker and k3s, why would you want to move to haos and use "addons" aka containers that you dont have full control over?

wild shale
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2 things. 1) not to run a privileged container on my k3s cluster with effective root

brittle sail
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it needs priv, i just dont remember why

wild shale
#
  1. kube device pass through is pretty crappy
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it works 85% of the time

brittle sail
#

we can @ rob to find out but 50/50 shot you get banned for waking the beast

wild shale
#

haha

brittle sail
#

./giphy im still gonna send it

wild shale
#

it needs priv for needing to bind to the port (iirc)

brittle sail
wild shale
#

haha well that's why i was considering HAOS

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🙂

#

jsut to give it a VM and not think about it

brittle sail
#

i personally run haos on a used laptop with a broken keyboard and monitor separate from my server, separate from my network, separate from my camera system, etc

wild shale
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gotcha

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oh ssdp port 1900 on the local network

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that was another host port you have to pas through, i guess that's for bonjour or something?

brittle sail
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generally people fall into two categories: 1 - they want an 'appliance' level of smart home hubbery aka HaOS. 2 - they want full control, so they run container, or core if they are python weirdos..

wild shale
#

yeah i started as raw python as that's all there was "a long time ago", eventually moved to a container, and then to kubernetes...

brittle sail
#

frankly as cool as k8s k3s kubectl kwordsandstuffandthings is, home assistant wasnt meant to failover and generally is stable enough to just throw it at good hardware and let it eat

wild shale
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well i have it pegged to one host anyway as that's where the dongles are 🙂

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so it's not like it can migrate anyway

brittle sail
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well if you used ser2net with the dongles instead of usb passthru then those could migrate unless that was the host that got deaded

wild shale
#

ooh yeah i was going to ask about that actually..

brittle sail
#

still

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chances are super low of your dongles dying

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you can automate nvm backup and restores on zwave and i think zigbee too

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if you are so willing

wild shale
#

that seems like too much effort

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🙂

brittle sail
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says the guy running a cluster at home

wild shale
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haha i'm curious but lazy 🙂

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thanks for the pointers dude, more to think about.

brittle sail
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no u

brittle sail
#

zwave plugs in via usb tho

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allows me to power cycle a PoE port if there is an issue with the coordinator tho

wild shale
#

i have a conbee for zigbee

brittle sail
#

gross

wild shale
#

it works

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heh

brittle sail
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that's usually not the case

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you can search conbee here for some fun convos

wild shale
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well it seems to work...

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🙂

brittle sail
#

they're the worst as far as interference goes

wild shale
#

i see

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it was dumb cheap on amazon

brittle sail
#

that's what zigbee interference looks like from usb 3.0 ports and an SSD

wild shale
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it's a conbee II 🙂

brittle sail
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it's best to use a usb extender to escape a metal rack, usb 3 ports, SSD, wireless AP, etc

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or even better, use a PoE coordinator like the tube one above 😛

wild shale
#

hehe

brittle sail
wild shale
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mine is on top of my rack, in a usb hub next to zwave and BTLE dongles

brittle sail
#

yikerz

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the trifecta of suck

wild shale
#

and it works™️

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like really haven't had a problem at all with any of it

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now i'm afraid to move it haha

brittle sail
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well i mean by definition you literally have a problem

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you just arent seeing side effects

wild shale
#

right, wahtever the interference is it seems to not affect my usability at all from what i can tell

brittle sail
#

yeah just something to consider i guess.. in your shoes i would consider+1 lol

wild shale
#

i have enough mains-powered devices sprinkled around the house for all the various radio stacks that i get good coverage...

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across 4 floors

brittle sail
#

i mean interference (regardless of what you think isnt effecting you) is literally helping shape the routes that zigbee and zwave devices get

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so lol

wild shale
#

i guess i haven't had any issues i had to go debug... i shouldn't jinx it

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but yeah, i have a bunch of ecobees with HK integration, a bunch of zigbee outlets, env sensors (ikea), water leak sensors... zwave lock and outlet as extender.

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shrug.. something to be aware of though ,for sure..

brittle sail
#

well ecobees certainly arent helping either mesh

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they're just using airtime from wifi 2.4ghz

wild shale
#

🤷‍♂️

manic bane
wild shale
#

You do if you need to access ports below 32k, only > 32k is unprivileged

manic bane
#

I have ha running in a container, it doesn't have privileged on the docker compose unlike the HA example

wild shale
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Do you use ssdp (upnp discovery)

manic bane
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Pretty sure it does use that yes

wild shale
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It needs port 1900, but I think I just need a bit more reroute magic through traefik

manic bane
#

Docker privileged doesn't change how ports are exposed
That's done for your host itself (as the container can run as root if it wants inside that)

wild shale
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I can probably get rid of it, though yeah maybe also need it for some Capabilities for the zigbee/btle devices?

manic bane
#

I just use host networking mode as per the advice on the guide

wild shale
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I don't run docker, I run k3s

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So it's not the same with respect to networking

manic bane
#

You'll need to find the equivalent then

wild shale
#

Yeah i already have that bit (hostPort iirc)

fair spindle
#

You probably need the hostNetwork: true option set on your pod. hostPort etc are still using a separate network namespace, you need it to use the host network

inner kelp
#

Hello Team!

I am ready for a fresh installation of HA for mainly NVR use with DeepStack + Frigate + Double Take.

The hardware include a seperate GPU.

I am thinking to use ProxMox as a base (in order to backup and restore the VM's easily).

I saw walkarounds with HAOS stand alone, onother with two VM's: HAOS and onother VM with docker for the rest, onother with one VM and within docker all.

I dont want to put effort at future for maintenance (HAOS was told that is peace of mind) 🙂

Witch scenario is suggested and why?

low notch
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No suggestions there

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You apparently already have a solid plan, use haos in a vm and everything else in a docker vm

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Main reason you want that is in haos theres no use for your gpu (for eg frigate) afaik

inner kelp
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The plan is not fixed - its only an option - thats why i am writing here, in order to discuss and find the optimal option for what i want to do.

I will try to do a passthrought the gpu to frigate vm.

So the above seems OK to you or you have something different to suggest?

low notch
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Maintenance work for a container install is about a hour for every update max for me just fyi

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Yes haos in a vm is good

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Everything special in a docker vm is also good to go, you can run these natively on proxmox though. Its just debian

low notch
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@inner kelp i don't do pm support, please keep the discussion in this channel where everyone can profit of questions/answers

humble mirage
#

They've already been told by me to keep it in the channels too...

inner kelp
humble mirage
#

The whole point of any server is for the channels, not for PMs

inner kelp
humble mirage
#

You don't, you configure the software

#

That one is under HAOS and the other under Docker is irrelevant

low notch
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you want both acting in the same subnet, so bridged adapters for the vms is probably the easiest to begin with before you do any separation

humble mirage
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Yeah, don't use VLANs, separate networks, or anything like that

inner kelp
humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
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See the docs for HACS

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TL/DR: No, not a container

inner kelp
raven forge
#

You install HACS to whatever your HA is running on

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@inner kelp When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
#

HACS is a downloader for Home Assistant

#

You use it to download, amongst other things, the Frigate custom integration

inner kelp
humble mirage
#

Please stop pinging me on replies @inner kelp

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Can you guide me with the configuration on order to have installed the integrations (to the seperate vm)?
Which integrations?

#

Did you try reading the docs?

inner kelp
humble mirage
#

So... you have HACS installed and working? Or not?

inner kelp
humble mirage
#

@inner kelp

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@inner kelp please stop

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@inner kelp tagging me

#

@inner kelp on every bloody reply

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Thank you

#

Now... what the ever living bleep is it that you want help with?

#

You're making it damned hard to help you by not actually saying what you want help with

inner kelp
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@humble mirage Now, how i can go on with the integration installation? I saw instructions via HACS, but i remind you that i want the integrations to be installed at other vm.

humble mirage
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FFS

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What part of *** stop tagging me** did you not understand?

inner kelp
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aa sorry, i understand not to click at reply, and instead tag. sorry.

humble mirage
#

the integrations
WHICH BLOODY ONES?

#

Frigate?

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Something else?

inner kelp
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DeepStack + Frigate + Double Take.

humble mirage
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Well, those are other software not integrations

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Frigate also has an integration

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Your starting point is to install those - using their docs

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Then you can set up the integrations

humble mirage
royal remnant
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I am integrating home assistant package in my product which is running with openwrt .
I have installed homeassistant using hs_install sctipt .

Once I start homeassistant service , its triggering coredump , Kindly let me know , is any one faced similar issue and do you have any pointers to fix the same.
Thanks in advance

root@Boost25-03e8:~# /etc/init.d/homeassistant start
Command failed: Not found
root@Boost25-03e8:~# ps | grep hass
31263 root 84888 S {hass} /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/hass --config /etc/homeassistant --log-file /var/log/home-assistant.log --log-rotate-days 3
31530 root 3144 S /bin/sh /sbin/core-handler hass.31263.11.1693990482.core 31263
31621 root 3144 R grep hass
root@Boost25-03e8:~# ls
ha_frontend_url healthcheck hsfrontend
hass.31263.11.1693990482.core.gz hs_install.sh log
root@Boost25-03e8:~#

humble mirage
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Command failed: Not found
carmine ravine
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I have a proxmox box running Home Assistant OS 10.5 and Home assistant core: 2023.9.1. Someone suggested this is a very outdated way to run HA. is that the case? what would be the preferable method?

humble mirage
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That's fine

raven forge
frank perch
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it's also exactly how many of us run HAOS

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shrugs

carmine ravine
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kk. the person actually told me that unrelated to my issue posted in 'z-wave'...not sure why

raven forge
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Can you link or quote that suggestion?

frank perch
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currently the largest share of HAOS users, run in a VM

raven forge
carmine ravine
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i turned off my home assistant PC.  i unplugged my zwave dongle. then i turned the computer back on before plugging in the dongle.  z-wave-js shows devices as beaming but configs only show 1 item (not all the items to config) and HA shows the entities as 'no longer being provided'
i am running Hassio on a proxmox box with hardware being passed through

Smart Home Sellout — Yesterday at 9:10 PM
hassio was like pre covid are you sure you are up to date on all the things?

smoothiestar — Yesterday at 9:12 PM
maybe i am confused. i have home assistant OS 10.5

Smart Home Sellout — Yesterday at 9:13 PM
hassio turned into home assistant OS aka HaOS a long time ago
so i wanted to make sure you were up to date before going forward^^```
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I believe i may have misspoke and called it hassio rather than HAOS. so totally mu fault

frank perch
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I also don't see where anyone said it was an outdated way to run HA

humble mirage
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There's nothing there about not running on Proxmox either

frank perch
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just that 'hassio' is old

humble scaffoldBOT
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Hass.io was the old name for the appliance like install option, that uses Docker. It was renamed in January 2020 and is now called Home Assistant OS.

carmine ravine
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ok sorry.

humble mirage
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Nearly 4 year old reference

empty bloom
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correction: commonly used still, nearly 4 year old reference

carmine ravine
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HA has run so well that I dont often need to check in on the recent updates/name changes etc. a real happy camper over here.

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other than my current z-wave issue, but that will be solved!

frank perch
empty bloom
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it'll never leave the logs

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the lib is still named hassio

humble mirage
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Renaming the integrations is not fun

empty bloom
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yep

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so, it stays hassio

humble mirage
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The level of breaking change would make the devs weep

frank perch
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'breaking change, hassio renamed' now no one but Tink's HA is running

empty bloom
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however the logged messages do not contain hassio, neither should the docs

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outside that integration

frank perch
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look at the docs for the Advanced SSH & Web Terminal addon

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😛

empty bloom
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Yah but that's just a redirection link

spare pelican
frank perch
humble mirage
empty bloom
frank perch
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while that may be the case, it's one of the most popular addons to be installed I think

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and lots of folk see 'hassio' lots of places

empty bloom
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I'm not sure that's a more popular one, most people go for the regular SSH addon

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those commands are now ha instead of hassio anyways

frank perch
empty bloom
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2nd is the other one 😉

frank perch
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well I didn't say it was more popular that the other one 😛

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I just said one of the most popular

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would re-wording to say 'one of the top 10 addons' be better ?

humble mirage
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The second most popular SSH add-on 😛

sage kestrel
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I am getting disk errors like ata1.00: status: { DRDY }and ata1.00: failed command: FLUSH CACHE in my Synology VMM CLI. I´m getting this still on a newly installed HDD, dedicated to the VMM. I have tried both IDE and SATA setting for my VM setup, and there is no hibernation on the disk, as far as I know from checking. I have dedicated 2 Gb RAM and tried both 1 and 2 CPU´s without luck.

trail mason
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Hi all, I’m new to HA and looking for device that I can purchase with HA ready (maybe DIY using a laptop?!). I would like the device to support the most common communication protocols. $500-1000 is my budget. Please advise 🙏

tender wren
glad sluice
trail mason
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I dunno if using cloud is smart, I’m worried about security. Maybe I’m wrong and that’s the best thing.
Anyway I don’t mind paying once to get all hardware needed for a robust system

humble mirage
prime hornet
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Hi, I installed HASS via docker but I don't have the Addons.

frank perch
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so you installed HA, not HASS, and yes with the docker/container install you do not get 'addons' but you do get to roll the same software out in containers on your own

humble scaffoldBOT
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If you're using any of the install methods that use Docker (basically everything but HA Core) then Home Assistant runs in a container that only shares a limited number of folders with the host (or add-ons if you use those). If you're working with files outside of /config/ or certain other folders then those only exist in that container and other containers won't see them.

This is commonly experienced when using shell scripts or camera snapshot services, when you create a file in /root or /tmp and then can't find it in another container.

frank perch
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whoops wrong one

hollow frost
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I have received an update for HA Core 2023.9.2. Where can I find the Releasse Notes?

split creek
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Hey guys! I need help. The issue I'm asking about was already working for me until I crashed the system. The issue is as follows: I use Proxmox on a 4-core Intel processor and I have a Coral dual TPU on a PCI card that allows both TPUs (verified because it worked). I have a problem because I forgot what I did to set passthrough for coral tpu in the VM running HomeAssistant. When I want to add a PCI device (one TPU) it says No IOMMU detected, please activate it. See Documentation for further information. What did I not do correctly? Thanks for the reply.

hollow frost
vital yew
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Hey wondering if i can get some advice. Currently running HA in a Virtualbox VM on Ubuntu. Having regular database corruptions (usually after an update) and its driving me mad as i am loosing all my historic power consumption.

I think the solution is to move away from VirtualBox and over to ProxMox but i have a few questions

1: Is my easiest path here to
a: take a HA Backup from within HA
b: Install ProxMox on my Ubuntu machine
c: Install HA
d: Restore the backup
2: Is there a way to set ProxMox to autoboot the VM when the host boots?
3: My linux Server is headless, can i do all of this via CLI?

low notch
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yes

vital yew
low notch
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yes

vital yew
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excellent. Thats positive. I guess ill go and google for guides on the setup of Proxmox as i have never done it before. Dont suppose there is a guide you can recommend? ❤️

low notch
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I didn't do any guide so I can't recommend any

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but I think you are running haos? tteck has some very easy scripts search for them

vital yew
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yep haos

vital yew
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There is a Home Assistant OS VM one

low notch
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yes

vital yew
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Excellent. Once i have that up and running, could you advise how i get it to autoboot the VM on boot of the host?

versed vapor
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You just set the flag for it on the ui

vital yew
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Its headless. no UI

versed vapor
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Proxmox isnt

vital yew
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oh so i can;t run proxmox on my headless server?

versed vapor
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You should he able to

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It's just a web ui

humble mirage
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Proxmox runs headless just fine

vital yew
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Oh i see. I did not know proxmox had a web interface.

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What port does that run on?

versed vapor
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8006

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The only real pre thing you would want to do is to disable the paid and enable the community repo for updates

copper steppe
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Caution!

vital yew
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uh oh

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🙂

copper steppe
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Proxmox is sn operating system. It will replace your Ubuntu, not install into it

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None of the comments above made that clear

vital yew
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oh

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dam i did not know this.

copper steppe
vital yew
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Yeah i can't do that