#installation-archived

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copper steppe
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Yeah, so back to your $130 one. It's all good.

brittle sail
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Prob still cheaper ones

copper steppe
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$90 for 256GB SSD ; $94 for 16GB ram; $104 for both.

quaint bolt
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I'm suspecting most prople are also recommending using proxmox on top of that hardware, and keeping haos in a VM on it. It's a little more complex, but gives you snapshots. which makes rolling back bad updates much much easier

copper steppe
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Install is super easy with tteck scripts. Easier than native

versed vapor
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Should be aware that such solution as above isn't good for when electricity is costly where you live

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If you consider using it for vms in general it may be a good idea to not go for something based on a low initial cost but rather pick something which has a decent efficiency close to the expected utilization

raven forge
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What else are you suggesting that idles at significantly less than 12w~?

humble mirage
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My toaster idles under 12W zany

versed vapor
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Assuming we do be talking non ARM solutions surely. Certain dev board solutions like the lattepanda / zimaboard ones, do offer ~ 5w idle on non arm processors. I am not quite sure if id go for something like that even tho they support nvme storage but realistically you get the same on Nuc alikes with certain U or N type Intel processors.
Alternatively you can go the other way and get something with more processing power, like a Ryzen U/H/HX based Nuc alike. Realistically that will still idle around the 10w but you will get quite a lot more out of it if running multiple vms is what you dig.

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Any of those solutions is likely more than a hundred bucks. The Lenovo one mentioned above would cost somewhere between 90 and 150$ each year in electricity for where I am. Picking something more sensible for what you would try to achieve kinda makes sense from my pov

quaint bolt
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10 watts is around 4 days per kilowatt hour (1000/(10*24)). so call it 10 kilowatt hours per month. (to keep the math braindead. Its padded out). so you'd look at your unit cost per kilowatt hour, and multiply by 10 to see how much it'll cost to run for a month.

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for me, it's around £3 a month

raven forge
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Horstexplorer apparently pays more than 1.40/KwH which is quite a lot. I think your formula is incorrect, btw.
((12 * 24) / 1000) * 30 = 8.64 KwH
(1000 / (12 * 24)) * 30 = 104.17 KwH
I noticed we're in the wrong channel. Should probably be #hardware-archived.

quaint bolt
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Entirely possible 😄

versed vapor
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Math is a hell of a drug

quaint bolt
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10 watts is 0.01 Kilowatt hours per hour. so 0.24 kilowatt hours per day.

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30/(1000/(12*24))

low notch
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= Raspberry Pi

versed vapor
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A raspberry pi is like 2w

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Or 3 for the 4b

quaint bolt
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Pi 4's consumption looks to be 3-4 idle, up to 6 fully active

versed vapor
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However what you save in energy is what you pay in micro sd cards

low notch
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its far from 2w 😄 same with the intel machines, far from 10w 😄

versed vapor
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They really did no good on the gen 4

raven forge
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My N5105 box from aliexpress could idle at 6-7W with proxmox installed after powertop tuning and some bios optimizations.

low notch
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yeah but idle is not homeassistant

versed vapor
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Only if your CPU ain't big enough smart

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The Intel N100 also seems fancy

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There do be a enough of choices out there for something which is performing well on low energy consumption

raven forge
versed vapor
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(but it got avx)

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No idea how that helps with home assistant

inner bronze
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Even with a 64Gb micro sd card on my raspberry its not working 😭😭

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I dont have the graphical install

raven forge
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You might want to share some context

swift fossil
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why can't I install the github image to balena etcher?

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'Something went wrong. If it is a compressed image, please check that the archive is not corrupted/|

common failed: cmd/ c

raven forge
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Download the archive and extract it to your machine, then give etcher the extrated file to flash. Otherwise use another tool like rufus

humble mirage
inner bronze
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So

inner bronze
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On the guide

humble mirage
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Then you should write it

inner bronze
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Its shown that WE need to go on thé browszr

humble mirage
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Hint, there's no installer at all

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You write an image to the boot device, and boot

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Zero install

inner bronze
swift fossil
inner bronze
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How Can i go on the browszr and

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Go on homeassistant:8123 if there IS no installation

humble mirage
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They also are having problems... why you hit Reply to them I have no idea

swift fossil
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fascinating...

humble mirage
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What if you try the LAN IP and port 4357?

inner bronze
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But

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You dont understand

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I xant Access browser

humble mirage
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What if you try the LAN IP (and port)?

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What if you try the LAN IP and port 4357?

inner bronze
humble mirage
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But @inner bronze

inner bronze
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I cant go on m'y browser

humble mirage
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But what @inner bronze

inner bronze
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Its in command Line

humble mirage
inner bronze
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Home assistant command Line

versed vapor
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Open a browser on a different device

humble mirage
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You ... you use the device you're using for this

inner bronze
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Purpose

humble mirage
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It's a fucking web browser

versed vapor
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The browser doesn't care

humble mirage
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It connects to a remote system

versed vapor
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You need it for setup not to run it

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It's like watching netflix

inner bronze
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BUT ITS ON MY RASPBERRY SCREEN

versed vapor
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You don't need to host Netflix to use it

humble mirage
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There is no local UI

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You interact with HA using a web browser on another computer

inner bronze
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But if i want on THIS computer

humble mirage
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Tough

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You don't get it

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(in all meanings of that phrase)

inner bronze
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So how can i Access Ha threw web browser on m'y Pi ? With all add-ond ?

humble mirage
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Not from the Pi

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The Pi is a server. It gets put in the corner and you don't touch it

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When you want to access HA you use a web browser on some other computer

inner bronze
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Okkk

swift fossil
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'The selected boot device failed. Press <Enter>

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it failed ;c

inner bronze
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Are there any other way to dl HA on my RASPBERRY

raven forge
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You can install it as a container. Check the install method docs

raven forge
swift fossil
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idk what you mean by uefi

raven forge
versed vapor
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Also the USB stick may not be detected when formatted in a random fs

swift fossil
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lots of text on the screen lmao

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'A start job is running for HAOS swap (s)'

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OK, HA is installed. What am I doing now?

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lmao

neon grove
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On the Home Assistant screen it will show the ip address for your Pi. Use the computer/phone tablet you are using at the moment and try opening http://homeassistant.local:8123

swift fossil
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Home Assistant URL or Observer?

neon grove
humble mirage
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You want Onboarding

swift fossil
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what do I need to type there?

humble mirage
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Web browser

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Use your web browser

swift fossil
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like

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I need wifi and all

humble mirage
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WTF?

swift fossil
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what

humble mirage
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Where is HA installed?

swift fossil
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leptop

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it's a leptop

humble mirage
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That laptop already needs connected for HA to install

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You should have a cable connected

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Or... no installation for you

swift fossil
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oh shit

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but it's installed

humble mirage
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No, you wrote the image

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Plug in an Ethernet cable that is connected to the network.

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In the install docs

quaint bolt
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If you can't plug it in with a cable, you're probably going to have to use the container method. Where you use a different operating system which you can configure to get it on your wifi, then install home assistant as a container on it. There's some downsides, but it'll work.

swift fossil
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I can plug it

humble mirage
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You'll then need to reboot it, so it works

raven forge
quaint bolt
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ahh. (and discouraged)

empty bloom
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running on wifi is a poor decision IMO

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but that's just me (and many others) who share that opinion

brittle sail
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Plus one

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It doesn’t help that most people’s networks consist of an isp shitbox and a dream

hidden trout
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can i install home assistant on an existing linux installation ?

humble mirage
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Yes

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
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See the link to the instructions there ☝️

hidden trout
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thank you!

hidden trout
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this says i need a dedicated system ?
i am using my pi 3 b+ , rpi os, but it has pihole running

humble mirage
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You're almost certainly going to want Container - aka native Docker

hidden trout
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will that be a problem? preformance wise?

humble mirage
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Not HAOS, HAOS replaces everything on that Pi

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Or use HAOS and switch to AdGuard (since there's an add-on for it)

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If you use HAOS you dedicate the Pi to HA though

hidden trout
humble mirage
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Will what be a problem?

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The Pi3 isn't awesome, but it works

hidden trout
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i meant running a pi hole along with HA

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will it cause performance issues?

humble mirage
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No

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PiHole is very lightweight

hidden trout
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got it , thanks!

hidden trout
humble mirage
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No

hidden trout
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so i need to install docker (not docker desktop)?

humble mirage
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Yes

hidden trout
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what is the non desktop docker called?

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ah thanks

versed vapor
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If you feel like you need a ui for docker, portainer seems pretty solid

humble mirage
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Portainer is known to sometimes do stupid things

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It caches things that shouldn't be cached, and can cause issues on upgrades at times

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Not common, but common enough that it's worth knowing about

safe python
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1

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1

humble mirage
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@safe python What?

safe python
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I just want to see if there is anyone else.😋

humble mirage
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Just look at the sidebar, instead of spamming the channel

versed vapor
safe python
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Okay, okay, I just came here and I don't know much about the rules here. I'm really sorry.

humble mirage
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I mean, I can't see there's any server where that kind of thing is considered normal, unless it's a server for small children

swift fossil
humble mirage
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Not CAT3

swift fossil
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So I’ll just buy the 8 one

humble mirage
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Also, it has to work

swift fossil
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the higher the better ig

humble mirage
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Ah... marketing wins againi

versed vapor
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It matters for >10gig on more than 55m

humble mirage
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Don't forget to get the gold plated ones with the arrows showing the bits which way to flow

quaint bolt
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cat5e will be enough for the vast majority of home networks.

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it'll support gigabit, no problem

versed vapor
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Id only buy the cat8 when you are putting it inside a wall

quaint bolt
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And be more flexible than a cat 6

versed vapor
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For just lazy home runs it's too stiff

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Tho is there even a price difference these days

swift fossil
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2 dollars

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difference

safe python
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Hello, may I ask how to solve this? Is there a recommended blog? I just upgraded the system and displayed the error "mqtt platform for sensor integration no longer supports YAML configuration. Please delete it from the configuration file and restart the Home Assistant to solve this problem.

versed vapor
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It kinda told you what to do

safe python
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It shows that I can't edit mqtt on the configuration.yaml file, but if so, how can I upload the temperature and humidity detected by my esp32 on the overview?

versed vapor
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I think you just directly use mqtt: sensor: ...

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Similar to how templates moved

safe python
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Yes, I paste such content directly into the yaml file.

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sensor 1:
platform: mqtt
state_topic: 'office/sensor1'
name: 'Temperature'
unit_of_measurement: '°C'
value_template: '{{ value_json.temperature }}'

sensor 2:
platform: mqtt
state_topic: 'office/sensor1'
name: 'Humidity'
unit_of_measurement: '%'
value_template: '{{ value_json.humidity }}'

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Only modify the necessary information.

versed vapor
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No that specifies the platform as mqtt instead of putting it on the mqtt mapping

safe python
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It can still be added like this before the system update, but now I can't do it.

inner bronze
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Hey with docker compose where Can i find my config file ?

versed vapor
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Your config file for what

raven forge
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Whereever you mounted /config to

inner bronze
raven forge
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Show your compose file

inner bronze
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In dm cant send pixture

raven forge
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No

humble scaffoldBOT
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raven forge
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Besides, it's a text file. Send it as text, not an image

humble scaffoldBOT
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inner bronze
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Il on phone

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But im creatung thé compose.yml

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And xanna find the.config

safe python
inner bronze
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I cant find thé config im lookig for.

safe python
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Sorry, I don't quite understand.

raven forge
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@inner bronze /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG is supposed to be filled out by you

versed vapor
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I have no idea what your current setup looks like, but from what I imagine is that you just need to load it behind the mqtt mapping and remove the platform one

swift fossil
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Ok, i got myself an Ethernet Cable. Now I created an account on HA on my phone. What next? What am I doing with the 'server' now?

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‘Waiting for the Home Assistant CLI to be ready…'

Home Assistant

Welcome to the Home Assistant command line

waiting for supervisor to startup

Ip
Ip

Os version
Home assistant core

Home assistant url
Observer URL

ha >

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something like that

neon grove
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You stick it in the corner and use the Web interface to add any integrations you need, or accept any smart devices it finds on the network.

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This is why most people use an old desktop PC or a small computer like a Raspberry Pi.

swift fossil
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so I don’t really need that pc anymore, just need it to be on

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fine

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but when I remove the flash drive, it’s just closing itself

humble mirage
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Sounds like you wrote the image to the flash drive

swift fossil
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that’s how I downloaded it

humble mirage
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Then it's booting from that, and running from that

swift fossil
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I couldn’t download it otherwise

humble mirage
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You're supposed to write it to the boot media you want to use

fading summit
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hi, i'm setting up on a VB Vm to test it before really using it but i got this error: "no bootable device found"

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how can i fix it

humble mirage
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Make sure it's set to support UEFI

fading summit
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hu yeah its

low notch
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then make sure that its set as viable boot device in virtualbox, also use the appropriate interface should be described in the official docs

fading summit
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also i have the last version so its lmaybe not up to date

hidden trout
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so i have finally installed HA in docker and it seems very cool , can i add my custom sensors?

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i2c sensors?

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using some MCU like esp or pico

humble mirage
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Sure, ESPHome is supported

hidden trout
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or a pi

humble scaffoldBOT
fading summit
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wait i have WSL is it possible to use WSL ?

humble mirage
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Techncially yes... but no, just no

brittle sail
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future you will wish you didnt

hidden trout
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thank you will check this out

fading summit
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i don't see UEFI i only see EFI

brittle sail
swift fossil
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can I somehow copy my USB flash drive files, where the HAOS is located, to the laptop's HDD?

fading summit
hidden trout
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🥲 pls help

brittle sail
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lots of guides online if you need help

hidden trout
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thanks!

marble ravine
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@cyan yacht so, start from the beggining, what kind of install are you going for, and what hardware?

cyan yacht
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So i have a respberry pi 4 with ssd and a sonoff zigbee dongle, all in Argon one M.2

marble ravine
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and you want to install core or use the whole pi4 for HA?

cyan yacht
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Already created HA account and booted the system from the SSD, should i repeat the whole process?

marble ravine
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core/docker/

cyan yacht
marble ravine
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ok. me, personally dont know how to do the whole thing on the ssd, but if you got that done, well done

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for the whole pi I used the image straight on the sd card, that allowed for it to boot haos, and went from there

cyan yacht
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OK let me try that from the beginning and follow that link then, Thank you for the tips @marble ravine

marble ravine
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no prob... and that was MY experience, yours can be different

hidden trout
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i cant install home assistant supervised in pi?

marble ravine
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you should

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but that is a manual install

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not as handsfree

hidden trout
marble ravine
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I reckon you wont be able to run both of them. check the pre-requisites

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meaning, you wont be able to install unless you have debian running in your pi, instead of PiOS

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(that is what is says on the documentation, I might be wrong, usually am)

final socket
empty bloom
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oh man, you were fast on that one

hidden trout
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why is it a trap?

marble ravine
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i guess because of all the extra work you will have to undergo

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Maintaining the Operating System The user is responsible for maintaining the operating system. Since it is a supervised installation, the user is also responsible for updating the components that are required by the Supervisor. The user is also responsible for not installing or changing anything on their system that will interfere with the Supervised installation. Examples are software that will update Docker containers managed by the Supervisor.

Security updates for OS: Responsibility of the user.
Maintaining the components required for the Supervisor: Responsibility of the user. Over time as Supervisor requirements change, you might have to upgrade your OS to be able to use the required version.
Conclusion: Expert. Maintaining a Debian installation to a very specific set of requirements is hard.

final socket
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There it is, straight from the documentation.

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If you want HA to just work when you need it to, and I feel like that's kind of the point, you don't want to do that installation method.

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And if you're on a Pi you're best off installing HAOS directly on the machine.

marble ravine
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if you want to suffer and learn, but suffer, and reap the results, and suffer, and mainly suffer and study and suffer, than the self mantained is for you (suffer)

final socket
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If you want to be able to do other things with your HA server, best to upgrade from a Pi to something that can handle running a VM or Docker alongside a bunch of other stuff.

hidden trout
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i guess i will run pi hole in a pi 0 then?

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cuz i only have pi 0 and pi 3

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and then install HAOS on pi 3?

marble ravine
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or you can go with casaos

hidden trout
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whats that about?

marble ravine
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another can of worms

hidden trout
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how do i uninstall the current HA core

humble mirage
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How did you install it?

hidden trout
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docker container

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i want to install the HAOS

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i just reflashed it

humble mirage
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Well if you reflashed it you erased everything

hidden trout
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🥲 there was just pi hole

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gonna put pi hole on pi 0

humble mirage
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It's all gone... that's what flashing does 😉

hidden trout
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what kind of setup do u have with HA?

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if u dontmind me asking

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do u have a bunch of sensors attached with MCUs ?

humble mirage
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Mostly Zigbee

hidden trout
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can i use LORA with HA?

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that so cool

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HA supports so much stuff

humble mirage
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Plus all the custom stuff

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Plus everything that communicates over MQTT

hidden trout
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MQTT?

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i have heard that before

humble mirage
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MQTT

hidden trout
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🤔

brittle sail
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it's a pub sub protocol. one side shouts, the other side listens

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low bandwidth fast way to get stuff to talk to thangz

hidden trout
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😄 oh

hidden trout
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how do i enable https on HA?

frank perch
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Follow the documentation

hidden trout
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😐 why no embeds

humble scaffoldBOT
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humble mirage
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And ... when you say you're stuck there... exactly what are you doing there?

hidden trout
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i am trying to add my esp32

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i clicked on new device

humble mirage
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Is that the ESPHome add-on?

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It doesn't look like the ESPHome integration page

hidden trout
hidden trout
humble mirage
humble scaffoldBOT
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#integrations-archived integrate Home Assistant with devices or services, or provide functionality within Home Assistant.

#add-ons-archived provide additional software or services, which an integration could possibility integrate with. Add-ons are for Home Assistant OS and Supervised only, other install methods can install software other ways.

humble mirage
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☝️

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If you have existing ESPHome devices then you don't need the add-on for that

hidden trout
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i dont have an esphome device set up , i want to set up one

humble mirage
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The ESPHome Discord, or the #diy-archived channel here, can probably help with that

hidden trout
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what should i do after i set up one?

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
sterile basin
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How long does it normally take to prepare home assistant ?

humble mirage
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Depends on your hardware

raven forge
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You can click the blinking thingy and see the "progress"

sterile basin
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Pi 4 8 gig

humble mirage
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SSD? SD card?

sterile basin
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It has errors

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SD

humble mirage
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SD card will fail on you with little to no warning

sterile basin
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its all brand new

hidden trout
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so i managed to add the esphome integration

humble mirage
hidden trout
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how do i add sensors to it now?

sterile basin
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Lovely

raven forge
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Mind showing us the errors?

sterile basin
humble mirage
sterile basin
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could i have used the wrong img originally?

humble mirage
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Unlikely, and those aren't errors, they're INFO

sterile basin
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23-06-28 15:14:58 ERROR (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.6.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.42/images/create?tag=2023.6.3&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi4-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": context deadline exceeded")
23-06-28 15:14:58 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec

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sorry

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I rebooted looks like it's running autofix the last entry is host information reload complete

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Back to the same error

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[supervisor.resolution.checks.base] Run check for IssueType.DNS_SERVER_FAILED/ContextType.DNS_SERVER

raven forge
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What does ha network info say?

sterile basin
spark fiber
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How would I flash hass to a nvme drive?

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Or am I better off running it on a Linux install rather than hassos

raven forge
final socket
spark fiber
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I’ve been thinking of running pfsense later on

raven forge
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HAOS cannot run VMs, only addons

copper steppe
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If you want to run lots of stuff on the same box, use a virtualisation platform underneath (proxmox, vmware esxi, kvm, etc).
Then run HAOS in that, along side pfsense etc

hidden trout
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i want to change my location how do i do that?

low notch
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what is your location?

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jk don't answer that

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what do you mean? explain.

hidden trout
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i want to make that circle smaller

low notch
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Thats 2 different tasks

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go to settings - system - general and change your location

hidden trout
low notch
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and then I think its still needed to set a the radius in customize.yaml

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not sure, I cannot find how I did it myself rn

hidden trout
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there is no customize.yaml

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there is configuration.yaml tho

low notch
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but it should be doable in UI

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I don't know just make a new zone that fits for you

hidden trout
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any way i can make the yaml builds faster?

spark fiber
brittle sail
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Nope

copper steppe
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I don't think it matters too much. It's easier than HA 🙂

brittle sail
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I don’t agree lol

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Proxmox is cool but beginner friendly nah

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With guides and a willingness to learn sure it’s fine

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And tteck’s scripts

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And prior technical acumen

raven forge
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I feel like a beginner shouldn't use helper scripts. It just obfuscates what is happening

brittle sail
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They can always read the scripts or manually type the commands line by line

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But yeah they’re not gonna learn

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But it depends on the goal. If it’s to use it and there’s minimal troubleshooting due to backups then yolo

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I just have proxmox installed to play but haven’t done a ton with it yet

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I don’t have the drives to play with zfs and ceph or multiple nodes to cluster and play with k8s or any of the fun shit

spark fiber
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I run a Linux server using docker mainly

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Not familiar with vms

brittle sail
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It just depends

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It’s mostly a matter of opinion

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If you already use a Linux server and docker then yes play with proxmox

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If you want to manage all your smart home containers yourself then use docker and Linux or whatever

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If not run haos in some way

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You can still use proxmox and choose the dockerhost or lxc route

low notch
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docker is the most sensible option when trying to run mostly native

brittle sail
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haos just keeps getting better as an appliance or w/e people are calling it now

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i'm running haos on a fuckin laptop with no screen or keyboard with an 8th gen intel running frigate and a bunch of other things and it's flawless

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granted i still have a linux box for most containers that arent smart home / hass related

low notch
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haos is still just docker

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its up to you to decide if you want the virtualisation layer of a vm or run it native

brittle sail
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i suppose

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it would be nice if we had more fine grained control though

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i.e. limiting addons to a specific amount of cpu cores and or ram limitations

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that's very useful for vfio stuff in vms on my server and containers w/ cores

quick wagon
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Hello, I want to migrate my HA which is currently installed as HAOS on an old laptop I have, to a VM on a new Proxmox server, I have already setup the VM with HAOS on the new server.. is it as simple as backing up my HA from the laptop and restoring it on the VM? Or is there more steps since I have a zigbee coordinator?

Please ping me when answering, thanks in advance

brittle sail
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assuming you use ZHA the coordinator will have been setup automatically with the dev/by-id/ serial method

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so just correctly setup usb passthru on proxmox (there are guides) and it should justworkTM

quick wagon
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I’m using Z2m

raven forge
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It's trivial to change the adapter path. I'd say try and see

quick wagon
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So after restoring the backup, I’ll just have to relocate the usb path and that’s it ?

raven forge
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Probably. You could check your current configuration and modify it to use /dev/serial/by-id/... before migrating

copper steppe
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Migration should be pretty simple. And low-risk, if you don't mind a couple hours data loss. Just backup and shutdown the old. The spin up a HAOS VM on proxmox, and use the backup to restore. Maybe change some config as discussed above.

brittle sail
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my backup and restore failed on proxmox til i changed network settings

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it wouldnt boot with the old static ip when my old hass setup was still running on that

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as expected i suppose

quick wagon
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So do I disable the static ip before migrating?

brittle sail
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i had to change network settings and take a backup cuz i have ip reservation for that ip in my router

quick wagon
brittle sail
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ya that's wrong

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you didnt follow the guide on z2m

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or maybe i'm reading that wrong

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let me look at mine

frank perch
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It says serial/by-id in the name, and I know assuming is a long shot....

brittle sail
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in z2m -> settings -> serial what shows up?

quick wagon
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I should have done everything accordingly if I’m not mistaken

copper steppe
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If your HA is configured with static IP, and devices are using it, it should work (as long as your old one is turned off, and your router doesn't complain)....

quick wagon
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In the port: “/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_20230329144300-if00”

brittle sail
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then i think you're golden

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either way worst case you change it later

quick wagon
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Great

brittle sail
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and save and restart the addon or w/e

quick wagon
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w/e ?

brittle sail
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whatever

quick wagon
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The more you learn

brittle sail
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it's pretty common

quick wagon
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Not a native English, a first time for everything

brittle sail
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i forgive you

quick wagon
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Anyway, so a simple backup restore should be enough, but unfortunately I know my luck

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Thanks a lot

brittle sail
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yes it is magical

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even if you go from pi to vm or whatever

quick wagon
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I really thank god I started using HA now when everything is this simple

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Cant imagine how everything had much more steps

brittle sail
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jebus cant save you here man

quick wagon
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jebus couldn’t even save himself

brittle sail
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that's dark

quick wagon
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Well, it’s true.. that’s why I ain’t Christian

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Not to go far, thanks for the help

inner bronze
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Hey just a question,i bought a sensor,and i need to connecté it to zigbee,so i need to buy a zigbee USB device

fallen lichen
wheat geode
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hi! We're trying to install HAOS on a Khadas VIM3 Pro board, and failing. Anyone installed HAOS on this board or a similar one?

brittle sail
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If it’s not explicitly supported you’re gonna have a bad time

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That’s an arm sbc not x86/64 right?

wheat geode
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judging from HA's github issues and PR mentioning the VIM3, I reckon there's some support

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yes

crude inlet
wheat geode
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yes. using OOWOW, when we select that image, there is an error saying that it's not compatible

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ooooh wait we were getting that with 10.2 but with 10.3 it seems that we can force the install

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alright, now our issue is that HAOS does not see wlan0 so won't let us configure the wifi credentials

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it does work with ethernet though

south orchid
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My hassio dns container went missing. How can it be restored? ha dns restart fails too

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Downgrading and then updating restored it

brittle sail
zealous lily
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Hi. Not sure this is the right forum. I'm having severe issues with the SSH plugin. I'm not able to access the HA from another pc on same network. I have installed the "Advanced SSH & Web Terminal" and I can use it internally on the box, so I assume it works. But I can initiate a SSH access, but it will not accept password. Have created a test users with a fairly simple password, so I easily can type it, but no luck.
Access denied
HomeConfig@X.X.X.X's password:
What could I be missing.

copper steppe
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password logins may be disabled? (check your sshd_config). It's more secure to use keys.

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what does the addon log say when they attempt to login?

humble mirage
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Hi Not sure this is the right forum I m

zealous lily
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Thaks.. I'll try that

solemn beacon
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So I'm having all sorts of problems with my HomeAssistant and I'm seriously considering just nuking the whole thing and starting over. I do have it run in a ProxMox VM. Anyone willing to throw some input, I'm thinking about creating a new one, starting "over." but keeping the old one up and running as reference so I can copy some code over manually of dashboards and stuff as I set the new one up.. I don't want to restore from a back-up at this point because I'm afraid that'll also restore the problems I have, but I'm ready to throw the towel in on fixing my current install as I just keep hitting more & more issues and dead ends.

blazing loom
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hey, idk if it's a good place to ask such a question, but I'm unable to ssh to my HA server. I get "kex_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" error. I was searching through the internet but with close to no results. Did you maybe have such a problem? Yesterday it was fine, but now it's denying my connection.

fallen lichen
solemn beacon
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Well, every problem I solve, I find a new one. The latest now is the complete inability to add my Apple TVs or HomePods, but it just seems that when I resolve one issue, I hit another.

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I posted over in #integrations-archived to get help with the HomePod issue but got nowhere. As of now, that's my only issue, but that was working and I had other issues. Seems like whac-a-mole with this instance. 😦

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I just feel like there's something wrong with the install altogether at this point with how many problems I keep having. Seems like this system wouldn't be so popular if it sucked as bad as it's sucked for me, and honeslty, my first month of messing with it was great, up until things went haywire, and I was working way too fast and not backing up enough in an attempt to get this system up and running before my dad came to visit out of state, and hadn't backed up in a week, after doing A LOT of dashboard coding, before I ran into my first (of many) problems.

humble mirage
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hey idk if it s a good place to ask such

low notch
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Because these devices are pretty much invisible on your network. All they do is airplay, which you get with owntone and the apple tv integration.

brittle sail
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Well you can automate on the state of them too. I use that to not turn bathroom lights off if music is playing (since motion sensor won’t be triggered while in shower)

pliant bronze
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Does anyone have any knowledge on fixing boot loop after an power outage? I get the below error and the system restarts. I'm using HassOS on an Unriad system.

[Failed] Failed to start Docker Application Container Engine...

solemn beacon
low notch
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Sounds like you have network issues

solemn beacon
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That's the common blame I hear. Could be. It's frustrating because literally no other devices give me any problems communication with each other, except HomeAssistant. HA seems insanely particular & sensitive.

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But I don't think it's a network issue. I add the integration, HomeAssistant claims it added, but then it never shows up under integrations. It doesn't fail, it doesn't connect and then drop, it just doesn't add, ever.

raven forge
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Check the logs. You might have to enable the integration's debug logging first or increase the log level

solemn beacon
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How can I enable inegrations debug logging or increase the log level?

humble scaffoldBOT
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If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

humble mirage
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See there, under logger

raven forge
solemn beacon
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Okay, I added this to my configuration.yaml

  logs:
    pyatv: debug
    homeassistant.components.apple_tv: debug```
Should I reboot, try to add a HomePod again, then check the logs?
raven forge
solemn beacon
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Okay, coded added, restarted, tried to add the HomePod again, and still absolutely NO mention of it in the logs.

twilit junco
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At the bottom of the log page if you click on the refresh button you should see them

solemn beacon
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Well...

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Lots in there about my HomePods.

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Those are all of my AirPlay devices from what I can see. Absolutely NOTHING showing up in Integrations still.

mossy light
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Can anyone help me get Zigbee2MQTT for my Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 Dongle working? I thought it was my old/slow Raspberry Pi 3, so I upgraded to a NUC. Started a completely fresh install of Home Assistant on it. But I cant seem to get it to communicate with the dongle. I flashed new firmware using the python method (since flashing with SmartRF Flash Programmer 2 kept failing). But still no luck.

humble mirage
twilit junco
mossy light
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I havent gotten a response from anyone there. So figured I would ask here

twilit junco
hoary vector
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I'm having issues trying to get https to work .. I have a reverse proxy that is working but when I use it I just get a home assistant icon and unable to connect and a countdown timer to try again. the error Im getting from apache is

[Fri Jun 30 16:53:41.162589 2023] [proxy_fcgi:debug] [pid 1484769] mod_proxy_fcgi.c(1069): [client 192.168.1.1:26183] AH01076: url: http://192.168.1.25:8123/api/websocket proxyname: (null) proxyport: 0
[Fri Jun 30 16:53:41.162599 2023] [proxy_fcgi:debug] [pid 1484769] mod_proxy_fcgi.c(1074): [client 192.168.1.1:26183] AH01077: declining URL http://192.168.1.25:8123/api/websocket

I'm assuming its trying to use a token but I don't know where its getting it from .. .my homeassistant.local8123 does sign in with a trusted network and no password but if I log out .. when I go to the site I get a choice of login names and a choice to use trusted network or a password but I don't see that when I try to log into the https site. Sorry to say I am a major noob and been struggling with this because I don't know where to start LOL 🙂

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I just noticed it says proxyname: (null) proxyport: 0 but just a few lines before that it has a different request to the reverse proxy that seem to succeed

[Fri Jun 30 17:13:07.799032 2023] [ssl:debug] [pid 1488290] ssl_engine_kernel.c(415): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:43669] AH02034: Initial (No.1) HTTPS request received for child 15 (server homeassistant.myserver.com:443)
[Fri Jun 30 17:13:07.799064 2023] [authz_core:debug] [pid 1488290] mod_authz_core.c(843): [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:43669] AH01628: authorization result: granted (no directives)
humble mirage
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Did you configure the trusted proxy in HA?

hoary vector
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yeah ..

http:
  use_x_forwarded_for: true
  trusted_proxies:
    - 192.168.1.20
    - 192.168.1.1
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lol the issue I seem to have is I'm using apache and everything in the docs are trying to use duckdns and that other webserver nginx or something like that

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and tha wants me to forward a port 443 to the ng web server and I cant since that's already being forwarded by the apache server at the 192.168.1.20 address

humble mirage
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You can use another port for HA

hoary vector
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I cant seem to find any documentation that deals with an apache reverse proxy

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I cant seem to be able too .. .I tried and used 9433 as the port and it wouldn't connect at all .. at least with this setup it connects but wont get the right login .. like I say .. I don't fail to connect to the https site .. it shows a home assistant picture and says its trying to connect

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lol and sorry tinkerer .. I know I said Id wait for a couple of days but I figured this was a different category lol

final socket
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I use apache2 for my reverse proxy, I can't take a lot of time rn but I'll see what I can dig up later after I'm home.

hoary vector
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ok I'll keep an eye out here ... thanks and lol ive been dealing with this for a long time so .. there is no rush 🙂

twilit junco
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I have done it before, it wasn't a straightforward process to me especially if you want to set up https and with authentication but it's managable

hoary vector
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well I do seem to have it working .. Im connecting to the site and its not failing but .. on homeassistant.local:8123 if I log out I have a choice of login name and either a name a password or trusted network .. but when I sign in with https//homeassistant.mysite.com I don't get the login choices its just immediately goes to unable to connect retrying in xx seconds so I cant get to the login screen choices .. I need to figure out where its getting the key it seems to be trying to use so I can maybe use a name and password

twilit junco
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Yeah these are 2 differnet hostnames and also I guess 1 is w/ https the other 1 w/o? Then probablly they are set up differently in apache

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In apche it has conf files for both ssh and non ssh maybe you or the code set things up only in 1

hoary vector
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yeah I have the two virtual sites .. port 80 and 443 but .. I don't think that has anything to do with it .. again .. I think the apache part is working.. I think its something in HA .. its either trying to log into the https site with the local networks creds and those are wrong .. or something else .. but .. ive been dealing with this for a long time .. I has actually installed HA 3 times now form scratch .. once on a VM and 2 times on a physical machine and not a pi either .. full size Ryzen 3 forgot which one .. but the cheap one with integrated graphics (3200?). I have had the same results with all 3 installs and they were all fresh nothing carried over from other installs. I'm just stumped 🙂

twilit junco
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Okay sorry can't help you there further since I did not setup https for HA and for other sites reverse proxy https it's been a while I can't remember the details anymore

hoary vector
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yeah .. I am trying to deal with old memories .. lol .. I have had this server running for over 10 years .. and have so much changes made to it .. but since I haven't done anything for a while I'm kInda forgetting all that I used to know 🙂 lol

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and yaml and HA is new to me so not only do I need to remember all the linux knowledge I need to learn yaml

twilit junco
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I say if you can deal with apache, you can definitely deal with these two.

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Since to me apache has way more things way more hard concepts to grasp

brittle sail
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unless you're setting up a lamp stack to learn the basics then you probably dont need vanilla apache in any meaningful way

hoary vector
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lol I'm running 5 sites on apache lol its not that bad

brittle sail
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it's of course still built into shit you are using

hoary vector
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yeah I have started with a lamp install .. and I still have that setup from many years ago 🙂

brittle sail
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idk none of this is hass related

twilit junco
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It's not really. it's more web development

brittle sail
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in my experience webdevs dont know shit about shit

quaint bolt
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how about full stack developers? 😉

hoary vector
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yeah I don't think I do anything bout development .. .. lol unless you consider the fact that the radio stations around here suck so I made a VM and run a radio brodcasting app on it .. and made 2 sites one that is more what it came with with a few modifications and the other is a site that shows nice on my phone and gives me the ability to change the weights of the songs (to adjust their play rate) along with being able to bring up requests and dedications if I chose to 🙂 lol

brittle sail
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we call those people crazy

frank perch
brittle sail
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we do

hoary vector
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lol .. yeh I didn't spend that much time on my site

frank perch
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I'm crazy, there's another word for it

hoary vector
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it uses basic php

brittle sail
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i think good webdevs exist, i've just never met one irl

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and i dont envy them given the current state of the web and whatever the fuck web3.0 is supposed to be

twilit junco
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I also have my personal blog on my pi

brittle sail
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do you have money?

twilit junco
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with lamp setup...

quaint bolt
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my websites are "brutally functional" 😉

frank perch
brittle sail
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be a lot cooler if you did

hoary vector
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neither do I

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lol

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lol basically if I wanted too I could figure out Android and instead of a webpage to run the radio site I could make an app .. but .. then I would have to learn a bunch of stuff .. and actually .. I don't learn anything .. I find snippets of code and modify it to make it work for my case. .. and that's something that Tinkerer here told me is a bad thing .. because he stated how yaml and HA configs need to be a precise way .. and any deviations of it will not work.

twilit junco
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usually i also like the quick and dirty fix way

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but the radio site, is it legit?

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hope you don't get into trouble

tender moss
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Tried to update HAOS to the latest version, and now it doesnt boot up. Any suggestions?

hoary vector
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well its not actually advertized and I have no one else that connects to it but me .. if it ever gets discovered I may have to change it .. but .. I think you need a password to get in to it .. ..lol its been a while and I'm set up with a key so I don't even have to worry about it

twilit junco
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okay then doesn't sound like a problem

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I mean I guess you don't even need UI for that. you basicallly just need a server to serve these things from my understanding

hoary vector
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zylvian do you have any errors .. or a way to let us know what is happening other than not booting .. is it getting somewhere and getting stuck .. can you ssh into it? is the OS running but the site isn't accessible ?

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I crashed the website once but the OS was still running and I was able to access it though ssh plus .. if you installed the Samba addon .. see if you can access the files from the shares .. so you can see if the OS is actually running but the site isn't

pastel sphinx
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I'm using the Plex add-on. I'm noticing that my plex amp and plex player instances always show "unavailable" unless media is actively playing. Should they be 'unavailable' when the players are idle? doesn't seem right.

hoary vector
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yeah that doesn't sound right .. usually the only time things are unavailable is if they are turned off or I do notice that sometimes my router needs to be rebooted because a lot of my devices are unavailable .. so either they cant communicate because of network issues or HA isn't communicating with the devices .. sorry to say .. I no nothing about Plex so I don't have any suggestions.

pastel sphinx
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but the "unavailable" entities instantly show the right state when I play media

hoary vector
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yeah .. ok so its definitely an issue with HA / Plex .. I have the same kind of situation with cameras .. it wont let me make "switches" for them .. they only show up as lightning bolts even tho they are supposed to have everything that they need ... they work but not fully right lol

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nothing is standing out to me so again since I know nothing about Plex and little about HA .. I wont be of much help sorry

hoary vector
final socket
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@hoary vector show me your apache config file for your home assistant site, with sensitive info redacted obv.
How do you run home assistant? OS, VM, Docker?
Does apache run on the same machine as HA or different?
If it's a separate machine, how are you getting your SSL certs and where are they stored?
Fyi your ISP probably blocks inbound port 443, so you'll want to forward some external port> 443 on your apache host, and then your virtual host config handles putting that into the right port on your HA machine.

hoary vector
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<VirtualHost *:443>
    ServerName homeassistant.mysite.com
    ProxyPass / http://192.168.1.25:8123/
    ProxyPassReverse / http://192.168.1.25:8123/
#    ProxyPreserveHost On
#    RequestHeader set X-Forwarded-Proto "https"
    Include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-apache.conf
    SSLCertificateFile /etc/letsencrypt/live/homeassistant.mysite.com/fullchain.pem
    SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/letsencrypt/live/homeassistant.mysite.com/privkey.pem
</VirtualHost>

and the apache is 192.168.1.20 the home assistant is 192.168.1.25 and yes it's the OS and a separate machine not a VM and my firewall is set up on my router properly for the port 443 and yes the certs are on the server which is running the lets encrypt not through the HA addon ... no my isp doesn't block 443 I have 3 other sites that run on https

not sure what you are saying about the external port > 443 I.. homeassistant.mysite.com points to external.ip:443 and my router routes it to 192.168.1.20:443 then apache routes it to 192.168.1.25:8123 ,, I'm pretty sure that's how its set up

brittle sail
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bruh

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you deserve better than to be in support channels talking about apache all day

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idk what you're doing wrong but shit sucks lol

hoary vector
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and no my isp doesn't block 443 I have 3 other sites that run on https

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lol well I'm not an apple fan or a windows fan so .. apache is a linux thing and I'm a linux fan lol

pliant bronze
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Does anyone have any knowledge on fixing boot loop after a power outage? I get the below error, and the system restarts. I'm using HassOS in a VM on an Unraid system.

For some more context when I boot up, it hangs up on a start job that is running for wait until kernel time is synchronized, and once it gets to 30 seconds, it jumps to [Failed] Failed to start Docker Application Container Engine...

Found a fix: It was a storage space issue, I gave the VM some more Capacity and it booted up. I think my log file got crazy large and ate up most of the free space.

final socket
hoary vector
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yeah I had that issue when I was first starting the server a long time ago but for about 6 years I have got lucky and the ports were opened up and my address became a bit more static ... not like back in the day when it would change all the time.

final socket
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that config is missing some stuff you need for it to work with HA

hoary vector
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I'm up for suggestions 🙂

brittle sail
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Are you tho

hoary vector
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excetp using something other than Apache 🙂

brittle sail
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Well nginx still uses Apache

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I think you’re living in the dark ages bro

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A lot of us are running Linux servers at home

hoary vector
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I guess I don't know nginx since everything you read about sites for help usually talk about apache

brittle sail
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I can’t school you on nginx I can’t grow a greybeard

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I can tell you if you stop abstracting everything and just focus on what end result you want we can help tho

hoary vector
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it wasn't until I started in HA that I even heard of Nginx thought it wsa an apple thing

brittle sail
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No that’s bonjour

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They get real weird with it

hoary vector
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ahh well I guess its I'm an old dog who doesn't like new tricks and I have been using apache servers on my server for over 15 years , I'm used to the syntax .. I noticed nginx is slightly different in how things are coded

final socket
brittle sail
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Doesn’t mean you need bleeding edge

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If wireguard wasn’t the shit then it wouldn’t be in the Linux kernel for example

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Which has made ovpn all but useless

hoary vector
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ok .. so I'm missing


        ProxyPreserveHost On
        ProxyRequests Off
        ProxyPass /api/websocket ws://192.168.1.25:8123/api/websocket
        ProxyPassReverse /api/websocket wss://192.168.1.25:8123/api/websocket
        ProxyPass / http://192.168.1.25:8123/
        ProxyPassReverse / http://192.168.1.25:8123/

since I'm not really familiar with this .. is this right ?

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Smart Home Sellout .. I am a bit embarrasssed but after my heart attack and a bad reaction to the medication I was givin for recovery ... my brain doesn't function really accuratly .. I have difficult learning / memory issues. so old things that are stuck in my head is better because new things are like pulling teeth .. ask tinkerer in here .. he helped me with another issue and he had to point out subtle changes in the code that I just couldn't see

brittle sail
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You don’t need to be embarrassed dude shit happens

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But understanding your weekpoints helps others fill in the gaps and that isn’t a problem that’s just being part of the community

hoary vector
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FinnMacCool do I have to add anything in HA for the added code in the conf file for apache? like are the websockets already active to access?

brittle sail
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It’s funny you found tinkerer so helpful a lot of people end up with the opposite end result

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Different people learn differently as they say

hoary vector
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he was a bit condesending but .. basically .. I'm a moron when it comes to HA .. and my memory / spotting of details .. makes it hard so .. I can understand his attitude

brittle sail
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If you want one on one help you’re welcome to message me but I’m not a Linux cli guy so if that’s what you want I’m not your man lol

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Yes that tracks

hoary vector
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a lot of times he just said .. look at the code .. did you really look at it .. lol

brittle sail
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I’ll get in trouble going down this path

hoary vector
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lol ok .. changing subjects 🙂

brittle sail
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Can we back up and you describe your exact issues with hass

hoary vector
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well let me see what happens when I add that config to my apache file and see if the HA stuff is already enabled

brittle sail
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And can you hone in on specific issues so we can do one at a time?

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Let’s start knocking the ducks out one at a time

final socket
hoary vector
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OK thanks .. adding it now and going to try to test it 🙂

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no it didn't work 😦 same error

[homeassistant.components.http.ban] Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from router (192.168.1.1). Requested URL: '/auth/token'.

I forgot the address I used to paste in yesterday since I guess pastebin can mess up I have an apache error log also but its to long to paste here

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Smart HomeSellout this is I guess the issue to hone in on first .. I have others dealing with rhasspy and Google home but .. those arent worth dealing with until I get this fixed since this is the capability of using it when I'm not home (lol I can still use it when I'm not home .. I use vnc to connect to my dns server and have a browser connected to HA lol)

brittle sail
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Why not consider nginxproxymanager or similar

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Where the footwork is done for you

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Built in letsencrypt certbot for ssl certs

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Etc

hoary vector
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I guess this says everything and nothing at all :

[Fri Jun 30 22:36:37.625099 2023] [authz_core:debug] [pid 1541449] mod_authz_core.c(843): [client 192.168.1.1:14394] AH01628: authorization result: granted (no directives), referer: https://homeassistant.mysite.com/service_worker.js
[Fri Jun 30 22:36:37.625136 2023] [proxy:debug] [pid 1541449] mod_proxy.c(1511): [client 192.168.1.1:14394] AH01143: Running scheme http handler (attempt 0), referer: https://homeassistant.mysite.com/service_worker.js
[Fri Jun 30 22:36:37.625148 2023] [proxy_fcgi:debug] [pid 1541449] mod_proxy_fcgi.c(1069): [client 192.168.1.1:14394] AH01076: url: http://192.168.1.25:8123/service_worker.js proxyname: (null) proxyport: 0, referer: https://homeassistant.mysite.com/service_worker.js
[Fri Jun 30 22:36:37.625162 2023] [proxy_fcgi:debug] [pid 1541449] mod_proxy_fcgi.c(1074): [client 192.168.1.1:14394] AH01077: declining URL http://192.168.1.25:8123/service_worker.js, referer: https://homeassistant.mysite.com/service_worker.js

it grants one thing and then says proxyname: (null) proxyport: 0, then decline

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because that interferes with my actual setup now .. I cant use all that because all that is already set up on the server computer so I would have to figure out how to have HA do all the certs for the server computer and run lets encrypt from HA instead of my server so all the other sites would have to be changed .and running the proxy manager doesn't work because for some reason I cant connect at all to homeassistant when I change the port from 443 to 9443 and I cant forward 443 to the proxy manager because its used by other sites on my server

brittle sail
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I will point out that usually people help with home assistant related or adjacent stuff and you’re in homelab territory

hoary vector
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well .. that's strange since getting https seems like its something home assistant wants you to do because you cant use some stuff unless you are using https and hehe .. they want to charge you 150 dollars a year if you want to be able to connect remotely "without hassle" with their "cloud"

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I guess I don't really need https .. like I say I use a vpn connection but... connecting to a local computer to use home assistant isn't as smooth when accessing a 1080p screen on a phone and I guess things like the assistant offered by HA isn't needed since I can use Rhasspy ... not sure if I can access google without having https though

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oh well .. its getting late .. I think I'm done for today thanks to those who took the time to try to help 🙂

brittle sail
hoary vector
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lol 🙂

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well have fun ... and have a good night 🙂

ivory sandal
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is there a list of all ports that hass uses

hoary vector
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are you using docker or a vm with the OS?

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I don't know of a place for a list but .. HA uses a lot of ports depending on what you are using in HA like it uses port 22 for ssh by default and it uses 1883 if you use MQTT the web access is 8123 and 443 if you use https different integrations use different ports so I guess they never put out a list... but most of everything is configurable so it doesn't have to be a specific port . like I don't use 22 for ssh I changed it to a different port.

hoary vector
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as a summery.. by default HA uses :

8123    TCP    Web interface, API, and some integrations
1900    UDP    SSDP discovery
5353    UDP    mDNS
51827    TCP    HomeKit
443    TCP    HTTPS

and then other ports for specific integrations

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lol but https is not playing nice for me .. I seem to be having issues with the redirect and Apache where my server is running and the machine HA is running on

quick wagon
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if the server restarts, HA vm boots before the NAS vm, which results in HA not connecting to the NAS and shows the following error, and I have to go manually and click on reload to make HA try to connect again:

Could not connect to HBA_NAS_Media. Check host logs for errors from the mount service for more details.

Use reload to try to connect again. If you need to update HBA_NAS_Media, go to```

instead of delaying HA vm to boot after the NAS (because HA is more important to me to load faster than the NAS), is there a way to make HA reload and try to reconnect to the NAS by it self until it connects?
versed vapor
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very likely, but configuring a boot order may be significantly less work

final socket
hoary vector
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tried that and its still giving me the invalid authentication from router and the requested url is /auth/token

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how is it that Home Assistant messed up my Deebot .. ever since installing home assistant .. it seems the deebot cant connect and becomes unavailable. when I go to my phone and open the deebot app .. I have to reconnect it to the deebot for it to start working again

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this now happens at least once a day and I had the deebot for 3 months before I installed home assistant and it never disconnected and had to be reinstalled into the phone app .. does home assistant have issues with it messing up devices connections ... because my lights randomly fail also

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oh yeah .. if I reboot my router it will also connect without having to reinstall it into the app .. so I guess its messing with the router not the deebot.. maybe I need a new router .. I do need one that allows more ports because I'm full up on this one and it wont let me add any more ... I think I want a router that I can flash dd-wrt to .. I miss my old dd-wrt Buffalo router I had

deft turtle
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hi, coming back to HA after being gone for a year. I am moving from a hyperV install to a raspberry pi docker container install. Should I start with the current version and rebuild things, or restore a full backup with a year old version? Sometime starting with an outdated version makes more headaches than it solves.

hoary vector
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Id suggest you look at the updates "breaking changes" to see how much has changed and how your old installation would fair. I just installed HA and my cameras had a configuration that has been changed so the cameras would stop working and cause issues in August if I didn't change the configuration.yaml .. so for a year ... there may be some breaking changes that would cause, like you say, major headaches

brittle sail
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taking a backup and then restoring from backup on latest stable and fixing whatever is broken is probably a good idea

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ah nvm docker container so no restore functionality

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fun

river crag
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Is anyone able to help? I just loaded virtual box on the new windows pc and tried to restore home assistant from a previous backup (.tar file) but it failed to fetch. Is there a chance the backup is too old? It’s from January 2021

tender wren
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There have been quite a lot breaking changes meanwhile.

crude inlet
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At least 2

frank perch
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this release you mean

naive oar
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Hello, I’ve a question regarding hardware, on which machine do you run your home assistant ? For the moment I’m running on RPI it is a good solution ? Or there is a better one ?

humble mirage
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The Pi is your basic minimum

manic bane
humble mirage
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Well, there are people here with half a brain...

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Also, the stats go back to 2021.4...

manic bane
deft turtle
wind adder
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Hay Tinkerer wasssss up!

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Just messing with too much hard and software.

frank perch
mental merlin
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I've switched from hassio to docker container, how do i remove from my ha conf:

  • Missing SUPERVISOR environment variable
  • Setup failed for hassio: Integration failed to initialize
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nvm i found it

dry fern
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Can you do a pure docker install with HA, mariadb, cloudflared, mosquitto, z2m, piper, whisper, matter yet? and if yes do anyone got a compose?

humble mirage
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Mostly yes

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You can find compose entries for almost all of those

dry fern
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matter can wait for now 🙂
official piper and whisper dockers?

quaint bolt
grand pivot
brittle sail
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I’ll post a compose file for him there

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Aand that’s what you linked to. Derp

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Imo that’s pinworthy too

neon chasm
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(moving from #general-archived ) proper official steps to migrate from core to hassio? forums and even the docs talk about copying the whole folder

humble mirage
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Take a backup, download it, restore the backup on the new install

neon chasm
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that would include hacs stuffs 'n all?

humble mirage
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Yes

craggy salmon
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how does one install journalctl on a Rpi hass os install?

brittle sail
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You don’t install anything on haos

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That’s the point

neon chasm
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that worked (nearly) perfectly. I was left waiting for the backup to complete, with just a spinning progress wheel not really doing anything, eventually opened things up in a new tab and it had completed successfully, but just hadn't moved on from the onboarding/backup view

craggy salmon
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like if there's something wrong with the hardware?

brittle sail
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I’ll let someone else jump in it’s like ‘ha show logs’

brittle sail
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It helps addons start properly iirc

hoary vector
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jjfs you can look at the home-assistant.log in the config directory .. either with samba addon .. or Studio Code Server .. of even maybe the Log Viewer but I don't remember if that was an addon or something I had to find and add to home assistant

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lol just to pick on you SmartHomeSellout .. actually you can install stuff in HA in a terminal you use apk add <package name> but usually you have to do an apk search <package> because its not as extensive as what you would have in a dabian system .. I'm struggling a bit with Alpine Linux since I'm used to Debian derivatives and lol .. just ribbing ya 🙂

raven forge
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It's not technically HAOS though

brittle sail
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Or just reboot

hoary vector
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I have lol .. apk update .. apk upgrade 🙂

brittle sail
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It’s on a free reign os man

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It will let you shoot yourself in the dick and restart and be gone lol

hoary vector
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well I guess HA is running on Alpine Linux so .. I guess you arent actually installing in Home Assistant
i wish so badly I could have installed HA on my server so I could have installed it with an encrypted web server instead of having to dick around with forwarding.... im looking into figuring out how i can make my apache server to run in mpm-worker or mpm -event since it seems there is something about using http2 proxy and that wont install in my system because my system is running in mpm-prefork and i guess some of what apache runs isnt compatible with worker or event 😦 ... i know .. thats what i get for running Apache 🙂

fresh mesa
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hey, question about installing HA-supervised on a fresh debian 12 install. systemd-resolved is now in the list of pre-installation dependencies. however, once I installl systemd-resolved, all DNS resolution is lost. it doesn't use the dns server advertised by my router, unless I go into /etc/systemd/resolved.conf and manually enter the DNS server IP (router) under the DNS field. is this what is what the process is supposed to be like on debian, or does anyone know how to get systemd-resolved to inherit the DNS server advertised from the router?

cinder marsh
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@fresh mesa what's in resolved.conf before you change it?

manic bane
frank perch
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im a linux expert and I still don't run supervised

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because I would like it to work rather than me have to work on it

fresh mesa
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thanks for the non-answers friends (except for gambl0r, thanks for attempting to help), forget that I asked anything. have a good day.

manic bane
frank perch
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I mean the behaviour you're describing is how it works by default unless you configure it otherwise

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systemd.network and systemd-resolved can work with DHCP defined DNS server, you just have to configure it to do so

manic bane
fresh mesa
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the rules contain outrageous things like "
7. If you're a programmer, try to find an answer by reading the source code: https://github.com/home-assistant/core" under the "before you ask". I'm a programmer. So, I am to intrepret the rules as "read the source code before you ask anything"? come on

frank perch
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What about the first 6 steps tho

fresh mesa
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come on

manic bane
manic bane
fresh mesa
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maybe i'm used to a different culture. i'm leaving now

manic bane
frank perch
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I never called you a dummy, or said not to use anything

manic bane
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IRC would be why wouldn't you read the source code 😉

frank perch
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I gave the reason why I don't use it

manic bane
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And I just recommended not using it because it's only caused pain for a lot of people here

frank perch
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Supervised is the self serve pump at the gas station.

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So no one's gonna offer to clean your windows 😂🤣

grand pivot
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Maybe they left to go see if they can find help on matrix more to their liking

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I answer my questions and others by reading the source code all the time

frank perch
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I haven't used it in years, I googled the man page and the solution was right there....

cunning edge
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hi

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I need help How can I add a new card in haos_ova-10.3 using virtualbox

humble mirage
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New card in the UI/dashboard?

cunning edge
# humble mirage New card in the UI/dashboard?

yes I want to do these steps and I don't know how in haos_ova-10.3
Download the repo as a zip or with git clone and copy the /dual-thermostat folder to the /www in your configuration folder.
Configure Lovelace to load the card:
resources:

  • url: /local/dual-thermostat/dual-thermostat.js?v=1
    type: js
humble mirage
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The #frontend-archived channel can help with cards, but you just pasted the instructions 😛

#

You should have /config/www/dual-thermostat/

raven forge
molten rampart
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Good Morning everyone. I could need some help right now. Over the weekend the home assistant in my office stoped working. Its running on VirtualBox on a NUC, I guess someone shut it down without knowing. The consol tellms me that CLI didnt start and it jumps into emergency console. After booting in rescue mode and looking at the Journal I didnt find any error or warnings exept that the executable /usr/bin/plymouth is missing at the last line. At first I tryed changing the DNS like the guys in the forum did but it didnt work for me. Sadly we have no snapshots or backups of it and I dodnt really want to reinstall if its possible. Any suggestions what I should try? Thanks in advance.

tranquil holly
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Hi guys, I'm setting up a second HA, this time for my mum. I've flashed a card with the Pi3 version using the Official Pi Flasher and I've plugged int the Pi3 with an ethernet cable directly to the router. I've booted it up and waited several minutes but the Pi never seems to show up on the network at all. Logging into the router shows zero devices connected over wired connections.
The Pi itself has no lights showing on the ethernet port. It shows the green light flashing in a fairly consistent pattern that at first glance looks like activity until you notice the pattern.
I've tried reflashing the card in case something went wrong and I've tried switching to a different Pi 3, but I seem to be getting the same issue. I've also tried switching ethernet cable and trying a different port on the router.
It's hard to know what could be wrong but it's like the Pi simply isn't booting far enough for the networking port to come to life.
Any troubleshooting tips I could try?

low notch
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A monitor and a hdmi cable would be good

tranquil holly
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Good idea. Frustratingly not an ethernet long enough to reach a TV, but I'll see what it comes up with anyway 🙂

low notch
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I‘d say DNS

tranquil holly
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If it's not even reaching the router to get an IP address or even turn on its connection lights, it seems a bit unlikely :/

manic bane
tranquil holly
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Okay, I've moved the router and plugged into a TV. It's in an infinite loop that goes:

Net: No ethernet found.
starting USB...
Bus usb@7e980000: USB DWC2
scanning bus usb@7e980000 for devices...

Then it reboots and does it again. That explains the pattern from the LED.

I'll try a third ethernet cable, see what happens...

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No change. Going to see if I can find another device that I can plug in using ethernet to see if it can connect...

humble mirage
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Is it even booting from the SD card?

tranquil holly
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It's booting something called U-Boot (that's the logon on the right of the screen) and it's showing that stuff on the left.

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Right, router works with a windows laptop I found that has an ethernet port using same cables, so clearly not the physical network equipment.

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*logo on the right of the screen, not "logon"

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I'm going to try downloading an image instead of using the one Pi Imager is bringing down...

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Aha, where might I find such an image? The official tutorial seems to direct me to Raspberry Pi Imager now 😅

humble mirage
tranquil holly
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Found it 🙂

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If this doesn't work, I'll try a previous version if I can find it...

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Same problem. Trying another Pi again...

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Same problem. Looking for an archived version...

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The only other Pi I've got I could try with is a V1.2 which I'm pretty sure is 32bit so I doubt would even boot.

humble mirage
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Try another SD card?

tranquil holly
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That is a definite option if I can find one. I only brought one with me that had Raspbian on it. My mum lives on a carless island so nearest shops to buy one are a short passenger ferry ride and a 30 minute drive but I'm thinking that's the only option left at this point.

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10.2 has failed, so it looks like new card is my only option. Really didn't want to have to go to the mainland today 😦
I'll have a hunt, see if there's any lying around I don't know about.

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The card works as a flash drive well enough, so I'm going to see what happens if I try sticking raspbian on there :/ I suppose I could run it as a docker on raspbian lite but would rather have an all in one solution that is easy to maintain and update from afar.

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If this works though I could try a firware update on the Pis to see if that solves anything.

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Right, a very similar startup loop happens with Raspbian Lite too, so yeah, hardware not software. Thanks for your help guys, I'll have to get over to the mainland I suppose.

tranquil holly
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Can Pis boot off USB flash drives? I've never actually thought to try...

humble mirage
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Some can, though you wouldn't want to run that way for any length of time

tranquil holly
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Hmmm, why not? I've got one of these little stubby USB3 thumb drives with 64GB on it so if it's something I can leave behind and be as reliable as an SD card then it'd be a suitable solution as I've never really used it for anything useful. Got it years ago when I had one of the original Macbook Airs with only 64GB SSD itself so it effectively doubled my storage XD

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Oof, but it's toasty after flashing it!

versed vapor
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They do that quite ok. You need a 3+ or 4 tho at least

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Also they are very picky when it comes to external enclosures

humble mirage
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USB thumb drives tend to have lower write lifes than SD cards

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They're also usually not designed with sustained use in mind

versed vapor
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Considering the price for a sata SSD these days...

#

The hub is likely more expensive

tranquil holly
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Ah, yes, that would be a problem, hopefully it'll last a month or two then I can get back over to my mum's and set up something more suitable 🙂

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It's annoying, I grabbed an SD on the way out the house and thought "I should look for a few more just in case, oh what's the liklihood this is the first time I actually encounter the dreaded SD card failure?!" One 3.5 hour journey and a ferry ride later...

versed vapor
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The to_sd adapters stack pile for me

tranquil holly
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Seems I'm out of luck here, the Pi isn't booting from the USB drive at all. It's a Pi 3 v1.2

versed vapor
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The one with the heatspreader?

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If yes, you may need to manually do the firmware update

tranquil holly
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[shrugs helpfully]

versed vapor
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If no you may be out of luck

tranquil holly
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I'd considered a firmware update, but can't boot anything to do it. I'll just have to visit the mainland and find a new SD card for it 🙂

rancid merlin
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Hey, I'm pretty new, be kind. I just updated HAOS, and now the yellow zigbee2mqtt thing seems to be gone, and I'm getting a bunch of errors about hassio, it's a little long but I can post the code from the logs if that's cool

raven forge
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Please do

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

rancid merlin
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thanks

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I just rebooted the server, but no change, still not loading the hassio stuff

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isn't 403 a web forbidden kind of error?

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looks like maybe failed update, I'm running the ha repair and core update from the server

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see if that helps

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command seems to be taking a long time to execute, not sure if normal

raven forge
rancid merlin
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the only thing in the top right on that page is a refresh button

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home assistant core logs, that's all my options

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and I can download the whole log

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where do you guys prefer screenshots from, I can take one

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

rancid merlin
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just showed up

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I think the ssh command fixed it

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stand back

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by

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yeah a whole. bunch of the OS just loaded and now it wants a reboot

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I see the drop down menu you were talking about, it wasns't there 2 mins ago

raven forge
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What SSH command? You can also check the logs via SSH and ha supervisor logs/ha host logs or docker logs hassio_supervisor and so on but GUI is easier for most people

rancid merlin
#

then ran

core update```
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since it made sense this happened after the update to rebuild and that might have resolved the issue

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it was weird, the mqtt stuff didn't load right but my lights still worked while that was going on. I'm pretty new and lost

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I'm sorry I don't have all the terminology down...

raven forge
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Don't worry

rancid merlin
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I had the yellow zigbee2mqtt thing working, and now the yellow icon is gone. My lightbulbs are all saying they have updates, with the yellow icon, then I click install nothing happens

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and under the integrations I see the purple mqtt, no yellow, and the zigbee dongle wants to be configured

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it fails to configure

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ok the yellow one is in addons, I'm an idiot

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so my light switches work, but I can't reach the individual lights, they're both zigbee so that's odd

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oh interesting, the lights only work when they're powered on.

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is home assistant supposed to make me feel like I have a brain injury every few minutes

raven forge
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There's lots of parts working together and it's kind of a black box (in the abstraction sense) so yeah, in the beginning I think so

rancid merlin
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well that makes me feel a little better

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I installed home assistant last week, added in like 5 switches and 20 lightbulbs before I realized I should name them as I go, it's a cluster fuck now

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walking around the house like a weird with my laptop muttering thing's like den underscore 4 while my wife laughs at me

quaint bolt
#

You have taken a slightly more complex route too. z2m is a wee bit more complex than zha. (There are benefits, of course. for me they weren't worth it.) 😉

tender wren
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ZHA has improved much over time

quaint bolt
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yep. main 'benefit' of z2m is the ability to stick it elsewhere in your home. device support is a swings and roundabouts thing.

rancid merlin
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I can't get some rooms bulbs into pairing mode 😦

kindred depot
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Once your beyond a handful of things it's a necessity

rancid merlin
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yeah I did all the stuff I added now

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now I can't get the other half of the lights to pair, but I asked in hardware and zigbee about that

keen heath
cinder cliff
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Is there any documentation on recommended ports to keep open to a local network for a home assistant setup?

I solved a personal networking mystery just now where services weren't auto-discovering and I expected them to (such as Sonos speakers, Google cast), and disabling my firewall on the home assistant host worked.

raven forge
warm lagoon
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Hello. So I just installed HA onto a NUC using the generic method. I booted the the image on the USB and it brings me to a commandline interface. I'm not quite sure what to do with it now. Any advice?

tender wren
warm lagoon
brittle sail
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well he spelled it wrong lol

#

you can hit ip:8123 directly

warm lagoon
brittle sail
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sucks yo

warm lagoon
tender wren
cinder cliff
brittle sail
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is your browser redirecting https by chance?

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firefox likes to do that

tender wren
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You are talking about generic method and plugged in USB. What exactly have you done?

warm lagoon
warm lagoon
brittle sail
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that doesnt sound like what the install docs say :x

tender wren
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You need to write the image to the bootdrive - the SSD or HDD

warm lagoon
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I used Balena Etcher

tender wren
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Yeah... If you connect the SSD or HDD with a USB adapter to your computer to write HAOS to it

warm lagoon
tender wren
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And that needs the HAOS image to be flashed on

brittle sail
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i think you misunderstood the install directions

warm lagoon
brittle sail
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it either wants you to boot a live linux flavor off usb then install home assistant os to a boot drive or take the drive out and flash it

tender wren
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Home Assistant will just show a CLI - that's normal. But the HAOS image needs to be on the m.2, not the USB stick

warm lagoon
warm lagoon
brittle sail
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i'm always right yo

tender wren
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Or you remove the m.2 from the NUC, connect it to your computer and use Balena Etcher to flash it to that drive.

warm lagoon
hexed mirage
# warm lagoon Got it, thanks

If this is a latest generation NUC or even 2-3 year older one...sacrificng the entire NUC for HA seems waste of computing power 😃 i would say, if you are a bit of techie, do a docker install. This will free up the NUC for other things as well

raven forge
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Or proxmox if you want HAOS

ivory steppe
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Q.... i ssh in to HA and i try to ping the outside world (dmi.dk)... nothing happens
why would that be?

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fun thing is that i can install add-ons etc.. so it can connect to the outside
its when i ssh in to HA the ping command just sits there
ie no timeout... nothing... i can ctrl+c to abort thou
so how to diagnose?
https://imgur.com/a/c9m2ehe

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i'm running on the raspberry pi image

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ie i just burned the image file to an sd card

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i have also posted issues about tailscale... that is now removed so its all about being able to ping the outside world from a "normal" HA

raven forge
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Try another address to ping

ivory steppe
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ahh

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fun enough they both work in a browser

raven forge
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dmi.dk seems to filter (drop) ICMP. Your browser uses HTTP(S)

ivory steppe
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yep

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well now i can concentrate on tailscale... i just wanted to rule out the base install

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there are an offcial add-on for tailscale by @shut rivet but also one here https://github.com/tsujamin/hass-addons

i have taken the issue on github as i have not seen much reaction on it here or on the forums

raven forge
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What issue?

ivory steppe
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with the tailscale add-on installed i can't ping other tailscale machines

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and the install is as KISS as it can be

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just provide an auth key to the add-on and its done

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it do show up in the tailscale admin console on their website

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done, but thanks for the try another address idea

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i gues a lot used to use dmi.dk for pings to such a degree they decided to filter out pings

raven forge
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I usually use pings to test firewall rules and that non response immediately reminded me of DROP behavior and since the web site works...

fading summit
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why do i get an access denied with the disk in VMWare and Virtual box

humble mirage
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What operating system are you running your VMs on? What's the exact error message?

fading summit
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can't send image

humble mirage
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Images of text are horrible

fading summit
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oh

raven forge
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But if you must, use imgur and share the link instead

fading summit
humble mirage
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That's not access denied

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No bootable...

fading summit
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the first one is a dvd reader

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the 3 line say acces denied

quaint bolt
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do you have secure boot turned on on the VM?

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if so, try turning it off

fading summit
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bruh i was stuck just because of the secure boot

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for 2 whole month...

quaint bolt
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that sorted it then?

fading summit
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yeah i'm not on the boot screen anymore its doing "job"

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and now the HA CLI

quaint bolt
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secure boot is nice and all, but it can be a pain.

fading summit
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now can't find the ip

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well thank !

warm lagoon
tranquil holly
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Guys, I'm at a loss, I went to the mainland after a day wasted yesterday, I bought a brand new micro SD card, a sandisk extreme one, and it still is coming up with this infinite reboot cycle. I can't think what I can possibly do differently. I'm flashing a card, it boots to the U-boot screen, it says it can't find ethernet, it tries USB, then it instantly reboots and tries again. Two Pi 3s are doing this. The same ethernet cable works fine if I plug in a laptop to it. I can think of nothing else I can do, what could possibly be wrong?

tender wren
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What exactly have you done with the SD card?

low notch
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and what have you done to the pis bootloader?

tranquil holly
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[smashes head against table]. Solved. The USB cable wasn't good enough to provide enough power. Like the first thing everyone knows to check with Pis is the one thing I didn't.

brittle sail
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Pi and pi things strikes again

versed vapor
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People who think they get away with a phone charger feel this issue

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totally not me

tranquil holly
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The main thing I've learned over the years is that with Pi issues, everyone will always blame the SD card when it's never the SD card.

versed vapor
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Luckily they are very easy to use
Step 1 usually involves not using a pi :^)

brittle sail
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Except it very much is

versed vapor
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The decision to move to a microsd one was bad
Not having emmc / m2 available on the 4th gen kinda killed it

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Tho really there has been more wrong with it

brittle sail
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No them focusing on selling 90% of their stock to businesses instead of enthusiasts killed it

versed vapor
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I don't think so
Like yea they totally make no sense for 200 bucks a piece
But they never where a great value based on their price to performance ratio

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Like most people totally don't use em as io dev board

final socket
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Which is really what they were intended for.

brittle sail
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Which esp devices are better for regardless

versed vapor
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Yes ish. If you wanted to not write c class code you could very well do it on the pi, even with a gui if that would have been needed

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But it totally tried to be more on the general compute side of things which just doesn't work out by running old arm cores at unreasonable high speeds without any cooling

brittle sail
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I mean pcie lanes or lack thereof is a big issue

versed vapor
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They fixed something tho

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Before it was shared bandwidth between the USB and the eth interface

brittle sail
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Pi4 ssd boot still can’t even do light web browsing without significant delay

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Shits weak

versed vapor
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That works a lot better when you use powered hubs for whatever reason. Tho yea it's not as great as any proper sata attachment

drifting bluff
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If I want to move from HAOS to HA container, can I use a HAOS backup to restore, or would I need to start over?

grand pivot
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You can extract the homeassistant.tar.gz archive from the backup into your new config directory

drifting bluff
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Would I run into any issues later?

grand pivot
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No

brittle sail
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well you're manually gonna be recreating the containers and configuration for those programs unless they have a built in backup and restore functionality

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depends on what addons you use i guess

pliant bloom
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HA installed on VM VirtualBox on windows. suddenly keep receiving You are in rescue mode and the mechine stops. Any ideas?

open owl
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how can i enable network access, it says disabled. i cant enable it. my installation is trough docker on a raspberry pi 4 ?

humble mirage
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This is one of those cases where an image of what you're seeing may help us understand

normal peak
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Howdy — not sure if this is right channel but I am running HA on a ODROID N2+. Used to run on a Pi 3 and am loving the stability here.

Should I use external storage? If so what type? The eMMC is 30% filled and says it at 10% of its life. (I think this might be a new metric, have not seen it before.). Been running on the ODROID since December 2022

humble mirage
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SSDs are good

normal peak
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Through which port?

open owl
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please help with enabling the network access of my home assistant ?

humble mirage
humble mirage
normal peak
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I don’t think I have an onboard M.2 in this ODROID N2

normal peak
humble mirage
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Should be fine

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You may need a powered USB hub to give it enough power

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please help with enabling the network

normal peak
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Okay, I have some m.2s laying around but have never used a USB adapter didn’t know if it would jive and the controller would take it

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Yeah, will use a powered USB hub, already have one running to ODROID. Thanks for the thoughts @humble mirage

tender wren
normal peak
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@humble mirage, showing my lack of storage support for HA/NDROID, NVME or SATA?

normal peak
humble mirage
normal peak
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It’s across the entire USB bus though as I understand it. I have a Zwave and Zigbee controller plugged into USB already — I think I am going to share the USB bandwidth across any SSD I may plug in along with these other two USB devices

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I wonder if the speed of the USB / Stability is going to be worth plugging in an external SSD versus just rolling with the eMMC. Probably next HA deployment is just in a Docker container on larger server 🙂

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Only one way to find out — Leeeeeroyyyyy Jenkinssssssssssss