#installation-archived | Home Assistant | Page 33

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:14 AM

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the PC you use, have you got wireless and ethernet?

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:15 AM

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My desktop? Ya it's on wireless actually

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Ya, I lost that battle with the wife

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:15 AM

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you could try plugging the wyse in by ethernet to your pc and run a quick and dirty DHCP/DNS server

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 1:15 AM

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ya

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that's actually a decent idea

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:15 AM

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that's easy

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:16 AM

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Idk how to do that but I'll try it

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 1:16 AM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/DxUiFqLgDVC00 @frank perch

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:20 AM

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do I need to set anything up or just plug it in and let it run

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:21 AM

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well you'll have to just do connection sharing prolly

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but you can edit things like your host file on your PC

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but something (I'm betting Alpine) doesn't like your DNS server on your router

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so we are going to bypass that

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HAOS should add support for USB cell phone tethering

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Smart you wanna let's make a fr?

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lol

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 1:23 AM

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i'm not a hardware guy

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or a software guy

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just a guy guy

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:24 AM

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alright finished moving everything, ready to power on

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:24 AM

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I started out as a hardware guy

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then I ended up being dragged kicking and screaming to software

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you got the connection sharing figured out?

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:25 AM

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probably not

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:26 AM

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https://pureinfotech.com/share-internet-connection-windows-10/

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:27 AM

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ya, nope, didnt do that right

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:29 AM

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and this is just for testing, this is not supported for production, nor is to be considered legal advice, or to be taken seriously, with laces in your shoes

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my cat's about to break my door down, brb

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:31 AM

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so I dont have the dropdown in step 8 if that matters

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and when I click that box in 7 and hit ok it knocks out the wifi connection 🥴

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:34 AM

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are you on windows 10 or 11

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:35 AM

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10, I have one of the class action amd cpu that win11 doesnt like

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I could also try with my laptop, it is also win10 tho

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This is so frustrating

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:42 AM

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it's just one of those things man

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:42 AM

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ya, and I know it will be worth it in the end

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:42 AM

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you'll get it

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:43 AM

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its just one of those, I spend all week getting railed by shitty programming to come home and get my ass kicked on personal programming problems

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but ya, I cant tether this. When I tell it to share it drops the wifi connection so there isnt anything to tether

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:44 AM

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might be doing it backwards?

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:44 AM

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do I hit share on the wifi adapter?

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I was doing it on the ethernet connection

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idk, lets find out

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worst thing is it doesnt work

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:46 AM

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Right-click the adapter with the internet connection you want to share on Windows 10 and select the Properties option.

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so that would be your wifi

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since youre on wifi for internet, you wanna share that to the ethernet

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if you shared the ethernet, it would create a wifi AP with your wifi which is why you got knocked off I think

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:47 AM

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well I had that backwards in my head

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:47 AM

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that's what I figured

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its ok

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:48 AM

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ok is booting up

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do I need to change anything you think?

frank perch May 28, 2023, 1:48 AM

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shouldn't have to right away

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let's see what this does

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since we are in the land of experimentation now

valid plover May 28, 2023, 1:55 AM

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the waiting for supervisor to startup sure takes a while

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 1:56 AM

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Depends on the hardware

raven forge May 28, 2023, 1:58 AM

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You can tail the supervisor logs to see what's happening

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:01 AM

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wondered why I couldnt see it, forgot it got a new ip

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been a long day

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supervisor_internet: true

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what logs would I check

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23-05-27 21:56:41 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.host.services] Updating service information
23-05-27 21:56:41 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.host.network] Updating local network information
23-05-27 21:56:41 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.host.sound] Updating PulseAudio information
23-05-27 21:56:41 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.host.manager] Host information reload completed
23-05-27 21:56:41 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] System evaluation complete
23-05-27 21:56:41 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] Starting system autofix at state CoreState.RUNNING
23-05-27 21:56:41 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete
23-05-27 22:02:45 ERROR (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant:2023.5.4: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.42/images/create?tag=2023.5.4&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fgeneric-x86-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
23-05-27 22:02:45 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
23-05-27 22:03:15 INFO (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant:2023.5.4
23-05-27 22:03:15 INFO (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant with tag 2023.5.4.```

raven forge May 28, 2023, 2:05 AM

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docker logs -f hassio_supervisor, journalctl -fu hassos-supervisor.service
To view older ones use it without the f/-f

frank perch May 28, 2023, 2:05 AM

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can you hit _checkdns.home-assistant.io

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in your browser

raven forge May 28, 2023, 2:06 AM

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It's what's used for the DNS_SERVER_FAILED issue type but I don't see it here

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:06 AM

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raven forge `docker logs -f hassio_supervisor`, `journalctl -fu hassos-supervisor.service` T...

says there isnt a -f flag

raven forge May 28, 2023, 2:07 AM

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You used login again yeah?

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:07 AM

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did I?

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well

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about that

raven forge May 28, 2023, 2:07 AM

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Remember, the prompt has to look like # . not ha >

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:07 AM

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lets try again

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jfc that was a lot

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ok, how do I leave the docker logs

raven forge May 28, 2023, 2:10 AM

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CTRL + C

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:11 AM

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frank perch in your browser

desktop browser do what? sorry

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:11 AM

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raven forge `CTRL + C`

ty

raven forge May 28, 2023, 2:12 AM

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valid plover desktop browser do what? sorry

They want to you to open: http://_checkdns.home-assistant.io/ in your browser

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:12 AM

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Interesting I get an error on that

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:12 AM

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Error 1034
Ray ID: 7ce2f8f32d261435 • 2023-05-28 02:12:24 UTC
Edge IP Restricted
What happened?
You've requested a page on a website that is part of the Cloudflare network. The host (_checkdns.home-assistant.io) resolved to an IP address that the owner of the website does not have access to.

raven forge May 28, 2023, 2:13 AM

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Afaict it's only used to check if it can be resolved and it can

frank perch May 28, 2023, 2:13 AM

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I dunno, normally an error means something isn't working...

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:14 AM

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i think he's saying it's just supposed to be a txt record not resolvable to a site

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nvm derp that doesn't make sense

raven forge May 28, 2023, 2:14 AM

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https://github.com/search?q=org%3Ahome-assistant _checkdns.home-assistant.io&type=code
https://github.com/home-assistant/supervisor/blob/334bcf48fb7e1572933c211ca6b8fef46de0deb6/supervisor/resolution/checks/dns_server.py#L62
I only learned about this URL yesterday when I researched the DNS_SERVER_FAILED thingy.

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:16 AM

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well based on the notes on that link it points to dns server (netgear router) being fucked

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:16 AM

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idk what I'm looking at

frank perch May 28, 2023, 2:16 AM

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well _checkdns.home-assistant.io resolves to 1.1.1.1

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for me at least

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so I guess if that's all it's used for

raven forge May 28, 2023, 2:19 AM

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brittle sail well based on the notes on that link it points to dns server (netgear router) be...

Supervisor does lots of checks, this is just one of them. If it fails it should emit a DNS_SERVER_FAILED like yesterday with the broken 10.0.0.38 DNS ip.
I don't see if this time but we haven't seen all the logs yet

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:22 AM

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He had the same issue after changing it to authoritative servers like CF as well I think

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:22 AM

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https://dpaste.org/aakn8

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I forgot we were waiting on me to share logs

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:23 AM

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@valid plover you tried nmcli setting dns to 9.9.9.9 and 1.1.1.1 right?

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:23 AM

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hands up

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I mean, dns info says thats what they are but let me check

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:23 AM

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As well as your gateway (netgear ip)

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Also at this point you’ve moved off the windows pc and back to the router right?

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:24 AM

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I have not

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I didnt know if we confirmed it was ok to do that or not

grand pivot May 28, 2023, 2:28 AM

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cmdline: git clone -v --recursive --depth=1 --shallow-submodules -- https://github.com/hassio-addons/repository /data/addons/git/a0d7b954
stderr: 'Cloning into '/data/addons/git/a0d7b954'...
fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/hassio-addons/repository/': Could not resolve host: github.com
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23-05-27 20:25:41 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.store] Can't retrieve data from https://github.com/hassio-addons/repository due to

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Seems bad

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:30 AM

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I'm grasping at straws

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:31 AM

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brittle sail <@200446272371425280> you tried nmcli setting dns to 9.9.9.9 and 1.1.1.1 right?

I just nmcli set those, do I have to do a save command or anything

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:34 AM

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Idk I copy paste nmcli shit

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:34 AM

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lol

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should I just tell it to reboot then?

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move it back?

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try again tomorrow?

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:35 AM

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Kill it with fire

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:35 AM

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I'm clueless and need all the help I can at this point

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wait, could I try to use my phone to wifi hotspot to the desktop and tether the thing to that?

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:36 AM

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Well in your defense you chose the hardest hardware to install on + have what seems to be a router that sucks at doing dns

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:37 AM

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it didnt seem that bad from guides I read, and Pi's are expensive af these days

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I went to rebuy what I have running octoprint behind me and its jumped crazy

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:38 AM

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That thin client would work fine running octoprint I think

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:38 AM

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if its dns it doesnt matter if I install it on a toaster

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:38 AM

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I know

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:39 AM

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that would be neat tho

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:39 AM

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I have five printers with five pi’s but nowadays I’d buy a mini pc and virtualize multiple instances I think

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:39 AM

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fair enough

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 2:40 AM

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Anyways I think you just have to put the interface down then up but maybe you do need a reboot after changing nmcli stuff

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:40 AM

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I just rebooted it

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also running desktop on phone hotspot

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YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME

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THAT WORKED!?

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HOLY SHIT

frank perch May 28, 2023, 2:56 AM

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great stuff

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now... here's the other issue

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it will need updates and to install addons on it's own

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:58 AM

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ya, but now its 100% confirmed the router

frank perch May 28, 2023, 2:58 AM

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So this just means, your router needs a swift kick in its arse

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:58 AM

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yep

frank perch May 28, 2023, 2:58 AM

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So, go read up on DDWRT

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And tackle that later

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:58 AM

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thats tomorrow plan

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reading

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not doing

frank perch May 28, 2023, 2:59 AM

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Well, at least we now know through rigorous testing that it's narrowed down

valid plover May 28, 2023, 2:59 AM

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understatement

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Thank you, all of you

frank perch May 28, 2023, 2:59 AM

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That was an awful way to pop your cherry

valid plover May 28, 2023, 3:00 AM

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no spit or anything

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 3:00 AM

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Can you post some logs from your failures on home assistant OS GitHub? Like open a new issue if you can’t find an open one and link to the closed issue I posted above

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Points to netgear routers being the issue

valid plover May 28, 2023, 3:01 AM

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good idea

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:01 AM

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This is why I ditched their trash firmware literally on first boot of the router

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Great hardware but the firmware was written by drunken rabid monkeys

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 3:02 AM

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frank perch Great hardware but the firmware was written by drunken rabid monkeys

Eh

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‘Great hardware’ from a consumer grade all in one piece of shit lol

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:03 AM

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The netgear Nighthawks specifically

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:03 AM

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brittle sail ‘Great hardware’ from a consumer grade all in one piece of shit lol

Well the x10 does the what... 3rd fastest routing I think out of the routers tested

grand pivot May 28, 2023, 3:03 AM

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It's a war on open source

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 3:03 AM

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What is

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:03 AM

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Well DDWRT is on mine

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 3:04 AM

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I haven’t touched ddwrt since the wrt54g days

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:04 AM

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brittle sail I haven’t touched ddwrt since the wrt54g days

I've only run DDWRT since rhe 54g days

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I literally refuse to buy routers that don't support DDWRT

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 3:05 AM

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I like my UniFi silver simplicity for home

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:05 AM

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Cuz usually they are trash

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 3:05 AM

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I’d run opnsense if I wanted life on hardmode tho

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:05 AM

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I used to run a hardware router myself and gave up on that over 15 years ago

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:06 AM

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brittle sail I’d run opnsense if I wanted life on hardmode tho

I have an ASA on my desk and a PIX in the closet if you really want hard mode

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 3:07 AM

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I do not

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:07 AM

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Lol

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My Kung fu is strong and still I prefer a home router... for my home

valid plover May 28, 2023, 3:08 AM

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my r6900 isnt on the ddwrt list

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so thats fun

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 3:09 AM

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Well time to sell it then

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:09 AM

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What

valid plover May 28, 2023, 3:09 AM

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shit you not

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I mean, I've had it for years

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:09 AM

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You have the r6900P?

valid plover May 28, 2023, 3:10 AM

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r6900v2

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:12 AM

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That's supported

valid plover May 28, 2023, 3:12 AM

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I didnt see it in the list

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:14 AM

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https://download1.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/downloads/betas/2021/02-23-2021-r45820/netgear-r6900v2/

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It has been for a while

valid plover May 28, 2023, 3:15 AM

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ok, perfect then. Tomorrow I look into that

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Thanks again for literally everything

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:16 AM

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If you dig around on that site you can prolly find a newer build

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But that's what came up for me when I searched

frank perch May 28, 2023, 3:17 AM

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valid plover Thanks again for literally everything

No sweat

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 3:19 AM

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You’ll have to reconfigure it and rejoin all Wi-Fi devices if that isn’t obvious btw

raven forge May 28, 2023, 3:46 AM

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Could use the same SSID and password but the BSSID might be different. Worth a try

wooden herald May 28, 2023, 7:23 AM

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Hi, I'm running an old version of HA (2021.6.6) in docker using the official HA container and I want to upgrade to the latest version, how should I proceed?

wanton spruce May 28, 2023, 7:24 AM

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manic bane May 28, 2023, 8:03 AM

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wooden herald Hi, I'm running an old version of HA (2021.6.6) in docker using the official HA ...

You update it the same way you update any of your docker containers
Except because it's so old expect a lot of breaking changes

Did you use docker compose or docker run

onyx crescent May 28, 2023, 9:56 AM

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Hello all, i want to run HA container on a rock4C+, but i have some difficulties. I follow steps from: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#install-home-assistant-container but got stuck on the libseccomp requirement and the script (which folder to use for config files). Any advice is much appriciated! Thx, P

valid plover May 28, 2023, 7:47 PM

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Hey all, does HA require any open ports?

humble mirage May 28, 2023, 7:49 PM

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What do you mean?

valid plover May 28, 2023, 7:51 PM

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Well the page helped me a ton yesterday trying to install HA for the first time and we came to the conclusion that my nighthawk router was causing all the headaches. We ended getting it installed by tethering my wyse to my desktop and having the desktop connect to my phone mobile hotspot and the install went fine

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we set the dns servers, but I was not sure if maybe a port forwarding of some form would help

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 7:52 PM

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It was dns issues which apparently netgear routers cant do properly

humble mirage May 28, 2023, 7:52 PM

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Port forwarding is only needed for remote access

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If you're doing port forwarding for local access then things are all kinds of fucked up

valid plover May 28, 2023, 7:52 PM

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netgear + github was no bueno

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I dont have any enabled, just curious

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I'm in uncharted waters

humble mirage May 28, 2023, 7:53 PM

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Port forwarding is only ever for accessing things from outside a network

valid plover May 28, 2023, 7:53 PM

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whats annoying though is my desktop connects to it just fine

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 7:53 PM

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You either port forward or use a tunnel like cloudflare or tailscale if you want to expose it yourself out wan

valid plover May 28, 2023, 7:53 PM

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TIL

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 7:54 PM

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I thought you were gonna install ddwrt to see if that unfucks it

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Cuz you won’t be able to run updates, install addons, etc if it still can’t reach GitHub

valid plover May 28, 2023, 7:54 PM

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Its another rabbit hole I'm reading into and not wanting to jump down unless necessary lol

brittle sail May 28, 2023, 7:55 PM

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That’s like saying you’ll replace your tires after you sign up for and drive in a race

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Have fun with the first corner smile

frank perch May 28, 2023, 8:39 PM

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valid plover Its another rabbit hole I'm reading into and not wanting to jump down unless nec...

there's not too many things to be "afraid" of concerning DD-WRT, if you can setup a stock router, you can get DD working

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however it will allow you to do some advanced things, when you are ready

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but the DNS server in DD-WRT follows the DNS spec, and works.....

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the only thing that I 'lost' when I flashed my router was WAN MAC cloning

idle vault May 28, 2023, 9:22 PM

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Hello, I need some help with a network issue on a fresh install on a 4gb RPi 4.

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I'm trying to use HA over wifi.
Problem is, I can set it up once from the UI and it will work just dine, until I first reboot. After I do, HA disables WIFI and it then becomes impossible to turn it back on.
Every time I do try to turn it back on, HA just barfs a " 'Activating connection failed: Check network settings' occurred X times" error message. I've checked the core logs, but there's nothing there except the same error message. Didn't realize to check supervisor logs.
Only way to "fix" it, is to do a fresh HA install, which will work once and then do the same as above.

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Everything in the UI is set to auto (DHCP), for both IPV4 and IPV6 and nothing on the network changes between reboots

light nest May 28, 2023, 9:30 PM

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What do the supervisor logs say?

humble scaffoldBOT May 28, 2023, 9:41 PM

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@paper kraken I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

delicate ibex May 28, 2023, 9:46 PM

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Hey folks – struggling with this error: Building wheel for miniaudio (pyproject.toml) did not run successfully. I installed following this guide https://home-assistant-china.github.io/docs/installation/armbian/ and a virtual env

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 2:12 AM

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delicate ibex Hey folks – struggling with this error: `Building wheel for miniaudio (pyprojec...

That is a forked project not official and certainly not recommended.

delicate ibex May 29, 2023, 3:41 AM

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brittle sail That is a forked project not official and certainly not recommended.

ah so I can ignore? Also getting messages like self._raise_for_failed_requirements(name, missing)
File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.9/site-packages/homeassistant/requirements.py", line 270, in _raise_for_failed_requirements
raise RequirementsNotFound(integration, [req])
homeassistant.requirements.RequirementsNotFound: Requirements for apple_tv not found: ['pyatv==0.10.3'].

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 3:41 AM

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You need to use the official version dude

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I didn’t say ignore the errors

delicate ibex May 29, 2023, 3:42 AM

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brittle sail That is a forked project not official and certainly not recommended.

sorry, I'm a bit lost... this is the first time I'm trying to work with HA on a raspberry pi alternative machine

low notch May 29, 2023, 3:43 AM

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look at the domain you linked

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 3:43 AM

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The link you posted above literally has china in the name

low notch May 29, 2023, 3:43 AM

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the version you have is likely very very old

delicate ibex May 29, 2023, 3:43 AM

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I'm trying to run HA on this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BQG668P6?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

low notch May 29, 2023, 3:43 AM

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does not matter

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 3:43 AM

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And armbian isn’t supported

delicate ibex May 29, 2023, 3:43 AM

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So was directed to this article https://home-assistant-china.github.io/docs/installation/armbian/

low notch May 29, 2023, 3:44 AM

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no you went there on your own

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nobody recommends this here

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 3:44 AM

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Anywhere

delicate ibex May 29, 2023, 3:44 AM

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from the HA subreddit

low notch May 29, 2023, 3:44 AM

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tell them they are wrong

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 3:44 AM

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Then that person needs to be taken out back and shot

delicate ibex May 29, 2023, 3:44 AM

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OK, so what would you recommend I do? Is it still possible to run HA with that machine?

low notch May 29, 2023, 3:45 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/

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this

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 3:45 AM

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Look up a guide to install it in docker if you can’t do it without

delicate ibex May 29, 2023, 3:45 AM

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here was the post I made on the subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/13st1je/comment/jlvz9q3/?context=3

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OK

wary socket May 29, 2023, 5:15 AM

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Btw, a 3 day update from my problems about constant crashes on 2023.5.4, downgrading to version 2023.5.3 did fix my issues, no crashes since. Not qualified enough to know if its a virtualbox on windows issue, or maybe a processor issue, or what, but after a few attempts at downgrading from a clean install of 2023.5.4 to 2023.5.3, there was one that was succesful without the OS crashing and restarting and had 0 problems since. Probably a combination of new OS + hardware, but again, Im not an expert.

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This was on a clean (more or less, some drivers and other basics to run most software) windows install with latest virtual box, latest windows 10 + all updates, i7-3770k processor (a bit old), 8gb ram, 2tb ssd, rtx 2060 6gb gddr6 graphics, with a wifi network card (which i know isnt officially supported but dont see why that would be an issue on a specific version of the OS). Virtual box configured with 2 processors + 2048mb ram (though I tried raising to 3 processors + 4gb ram and still had the same crashes)

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(also tried reinstalling the entire vm from scratch at least 5-6 times, with the exact same issues before downgrading, nothing worked)

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If needed, I can create a new VM to reproduce and post logs.

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 10:57 AM

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Hi,
im trying to install HA by proxmox, and im unable to do apt-upgrade it fails with this code: Err:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease
Temporary failure resolving 'deb.debian.org

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Anyone know what i can do to make it work. ?
intel nuc i3

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 10:58 AM

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That sounds like a problem with your DNS

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(or your networking)

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 10:58 AM

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Hm i setup with my dns..
any directions i should look ?(its the first time for me ) 🙂

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 10:59 AM

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First time for what?

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 10:59 AM

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installing proxmox. :p

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so i can run HA

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 11:00 AM

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Can your proxmox host reach the Internet? Can it resolve domains?

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:00 AM

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hm ping: google.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 11:01 AM

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You need to fix that

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Get Proxmox working first 😉

raven forge May 29, 2023, 11:11 AM

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I guess you used wrong networking information in the installer. How does your /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf look like?

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:14 AM

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Thank you, somehow it changed my dns, got updates now 😛

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Now im shell install HA, and it ask for q35 vs i440fx machine

raven forge May 29, 2023, 11:15 AM

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Both should work. I usually use the default i440fx unless I have a reason not to. Also see: https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/q35-vs-i440fx.112147/#post-483840

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:16 AM

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Ok,
disk cache Default / write trouh?

raven forge May 29, 2023, 11:17 AM

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Stick with the defaults for now

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:17 AM

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Ok, CPU model KVM64 / host?

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Again thank you so much !

raven forge May 29, 2023, 11:18 AM

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Okay, maybe not for everything. Here I'd recommend host for best performance

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:18 AM

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OK.
CPU cores ?

raven forge May 29, 2023, 11:19 AM

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At least 2, more (overcommiting to a point) doesn't usually hurt either. You can always change it later

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:19 AM

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my specs says 2 (Threads: 4)

wooden smelt May 29, 2023, 11:20 AM

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Someone should have selected "Default" settings

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:20 AM

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i got 16gb ram, how much should i allocate for HA vs Proxmox ?

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 11:20 AM

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Depends on the add-ons you're going to run

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:21 AM

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wooden smelt Someone should have selected "Default" settings

Yes deffently.. but dident wan to use 4gb ram only..

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 11:21 AM

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Somewhere between 2 and 8

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:31 AM

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Thank you. Now it seems to have been install. My ssd is 128gb but VM says 32gb ? Can i update that ?

raven forge May 29, 2023, 11:33 AM

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You can increase it but I would hold off until you need to. HAOS should automatically grow the fs if you do. 32 is just how the image was created

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 11:34 AM

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32 GB is also the minimum, if you're going to stick with it you don't want to keep too much entity history

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:36 AM

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yeah an i do run a lot of history and collect some data.

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Do you know how to change the size ?

raven forge May 29, 2023, 11:40 AM

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Hardware tab, click the disk and at the top there's a disk actions button. It's better to store history in VictoriaMetric/influx. More efficient

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:43 AM

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yeah im just used to the default from HA 😛

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How more efficient is it ?

raven forge May 29, 2023, 11:45 AM

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I don't have hard numbers and depends on data but you can easily store billions of things with less than a gig of storage

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:45 AM

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okay wow thats awesome!

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do you use vic or influx ?

raven forge May 29, 2023, 11:47 AM

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I use VictoriaMetrics. Not a fan of Influx's syntax. It's still compatible with the influx integration

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:50 AM

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Okay sounds like im gonna look into that..

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Thank you for all the help so far really appriciated!

wooden smelt May 29, 2023, 11:51 AM

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I recommend starting with the basics and gradually progressing by utilizing resources such as Google to search, read, learn, and adapt as your requirements evolve.

deep mountain May 29, 2023, 11:52 AM

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deffently - ive been using rp for the past years, and installing on nuc was completly new to me. and the guides i found wasent the best ones.. So im happy that we have a comunity like this to help out 🙂

wooden smelt May 29, 2023, 11:56 AM

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Plenty of good user submitted guides can be found here https://github.com/tteck/Proxmox/blob/main/USER_SUBMITTED_GUIDES.md

dire hawk May 29, 2023, 12:26 PM

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hey :)
Is there a way to add a root CA certificate to Home assistant OS store ? or at least to the Home assistant container on it ?
I 'm having issue with a couple of integration that don't allow to bypass SSL, and it seam the general resolution is to "remove ssl" because 'it's local anyway"... Not a fan of this solution 😅

dire hawk May 29, 2023, 5:10 PM

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I made a fix to add my cert to the python certifi list, but it look like this isn't enough for the Fullykiosk integration
If you need it for another thing, see https://community.home-assistant.io/t/let-home-assistant-trust-a-personal-certificate-authority/184917/22

runic crystal May 29, 2023, 5:55 PM

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my supervisor seems to think my HA is not running whereas it is -> [supervisor.auth] Home Assistant not running, checking cache / Anyone has an idea how I can dig deeper into this ?

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seems related to another message i get -> Can't execute restart while a task is in progress

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when I try ha core restart

dire hawk May 29, 2023, 6:00 PM

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if you have ssh setup, you can try to check docker status
Or power it off fully and try to turn it back on

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there is a lot of failsafe on hassos

harsh dagger May 29, 2023, 6:22 PM

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I'm trying to set up Home Assistant Core through WSL https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows/

I keep getting stuck on "Setup of bluetooth is taking over 10 seconds" when I get to the "hass" part

Warning (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup of bluetooth is taking over 10 seconds.

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 6:23 PM

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It should eventually continue

harsh dagger May 29, 2023, 6:23 PM

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I left it for an hour and nothing

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I have a fast computer so idk why that's happening

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 6:23 PM

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There’s an open issue on it

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 6:24 PM

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To be honest... Core on WSL isn't a great choice

harsh dagger May 29, 2023, 6:24 PM

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right but it should at least function

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 6:24 PM

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Once the bug is fixed

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 6:24 PM

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There’s an open issue on it smile

harsh dagger May 29, 2023, 6:24 PM

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brittle sail There’s an open issue on it

have the link for it?

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 6:24 PM

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I’m on mobile sorry

harsh dagger May 29, 2023, 6:25 PM

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is it this? https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/92379

valid viper May 29, 2023, 6:26 PM

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👋 I have a home assistant installation working fine, using docker, and not using host networking, but the server can't be autodiscovered by companion apps (though manual connection works fine).

Is there an additional port that needs to be opened/accessible for that to work correctly?

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 6:27 PM

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Use host networking

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That's the only supported configuration

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 6:27 PM

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Can’t he technically manually setup ssdp and other things if he hates himself?

humble mirage May 29, 2023, 6:28 PM

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It'll be using mDNS/uPNP, which requires broadcasts, which don't work without host mode

low notch May 29, 2023, 6:29 PM

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You can theoretically setup a reflector in the docker net and another one on your lan but you shoot yourself in the foot by doing that

valid viper May 29, 2023, 7:14 PM

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Thanks kindly, host mode it is

paper kraken May 29, 2023, 8:30 PM

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Hi, I'm stuck getting my Z-Wave controller to work again after a re-install using a qemu virtual machine on Debian. When I try to start the Z-Wave JS add-on, I keep getting a RangeError: Index out of range (https://pastebin.com/SYDNXtad). I don't know how to debug this. Can someone point me in the right direction?

brittle sail May 29, 2023, 8:32 PM

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paper kraken Hi, I'm stuck getting my Z-Wave controller to work again after a re-install usin...

jump to #zwave-archived

paper kraken May 29, 2023, 8:33 PM

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brittle sail jump to <#332357267364249621>

thanx, will do

deep mountain May 30, 2023, 12:49 AM

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Heey, So im missing the last thing on my install.
But Proxmox / HA install dosent see the GPU so i can enable HWACC.
does anyone know how i can make Frigate addon to see the GPU ?

chrome kayak May 30, 2023, 1:10 AM

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Hey guys, im trying to shrink the .ova deployment in esxi, i managed to shrink the vmdk to 16gb which is what i want, but now it wont boot.

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is there a way to get the homeassisant ova to work with 16gb instead of 32gb of storage?

frank perch May 30, 2023, 1:11 AM

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32gb is the min recommended

chrome kayak May 30, 2023, 1:15 AM

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the computer im using does not have enough storage for 32gb as im running over vms

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HA doesnt use that much storage

unreal halo May 30, 2023, 1:37 AM

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Hi, I just installed home assistant to a VM on windows (Virtualbox), but I can't access the url page homeassistant.local:8123

sly osprey May 30, 2023, 3:47 AM

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has anyone talked about/played with the idea of running homeassistant in a highly available fashion? say, with two yellows and a carp vip or the like between them?

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or a primary/failover model? I'm reticent to just assume that the one device will work forever without ever having any problems.. an figured that if one wants to depend on a thing, having a standby thing is a good way to shore up that possible expectation miss

low notch May 30, 2023, 5:23 AM

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Last time I‘ve physically touched my HA pi is months ago

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It just runs ™

fair spindle May 30, 2023, 5:35 AM

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starting from no failure plan at all, one's time is better spent getting automatic off-machine backups, and once you have automatic off-machine backups, the cost-benefit curve gets very unfortunate. and zigbee/zwave are especially hard to failover non-manually

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 6:22 AM

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Hi I just installed home assistant to a

prisma igloo May 30, 2023, 10:14 AM

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Morning, I just installed HA using docker compose. At first glance it is running fine, but doesn't seem to have access outside of my local Raspberry PI so when I tried to install HACS I got an error wget: bad address 'get.hacs.xyz'. looking into the logs I see Logger: pychromecast.socket_client
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pychromecast/socket_client.py:398
First occurred: 10:39:30 (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 10:39:30

[AFTR-56(192.168.0.56):8010] Failed to connect to service ServiceInfo(type='mdns', data='AFTR-56._googlecast._tcp.local.'), retrying in 5.0s

If I ping google.com from the PI it works fine, if I use docker -exec -it homeassistant bash and then try to ping google.com I get a bad address

low notch May 30, 2023, 10:19 AM

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the pychromecast error has nothing to do with your hacs issue I think

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you probably have a host issue when docker cannot resolve dns

prisma igloo May 30, 2023, 10:23 AM

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low notch the pychromecast error has nothing to do with your hacs issue I think

thanks, the host appears fine? networking within docker appears to be the issue, ie this fails but works from the host outside of docker
[root@Plugbox homeassistant]# docker exec -it homeassistant bash
Plugbox:/config# ping google.com
ping: bad address 'google.com'

[root@Plugbox homeassistant]# ping google.com
PING google.com (142.250.179.238) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from lhr25s31-in-f14.1e100.net (142.250.179.238): icmp_seq=1 ttl=115 time=19.5 ms
64 bytes from lhr25s31-in-f14.1e100.net (142.250.179.238): icmp_seq=2 ttl=115 time=17.9 ms

low notch May 30, 2023, 10:24 AM

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looks like a generic docker issue, how did you install ? on what ?

prisma igloo May 30, 2023, 10:29 AM

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low notch looks like a generic docker issue, how did you install ? on what ?

installed on raspberry PI, using a YML file. I. have another docker service that works fine

I used this compose file

version: '3'
services:
homeassistant:
container_name: homeassistant
image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
volumes:
- /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config
- /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
restart: unless-stopped
privileged: true
network_mode: host

low notch May 30, 2023, 10:30 AM

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I asked how you installed docker

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 10:30 AM

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ping: bad address 'google.com'
``` DNS is fucked

prisma igloo May 30, 2023, 10:34 AM

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low notch I asked how you installed docker

via this command a year or so ago

curl -sSL https://get.docker.com | sh

low notch May 30, 2023, 10:34 AM

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it could just be that your isp's dns is failing

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change to a public one

prisma igloo May 30, 2023, 10:35 AM

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low notch it could just be that your isp's dns is failing

then surely it would fail outside of docker? Whereas it works fine

low notch May 30, 2023, 10:35 AM

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not if the host has google cached

indigo otter May 30, 2023, 10:43 AM

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REceieved an upgrade notification for homeassistant os today, Installed the new version, now all hacs lovelace integrations are not working. any hint? known bug?

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 10:44 AM

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There are no lovelace integrations

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There's cards for the thing that was once called Lovelace

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There's custom integrations

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However, updating the OS shouldn't impact either ... check your log file

past brook May 30, 2023, 10:47 AM

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indigo otter REceieved an upgrade notification for homeassistant os today, Installed the new ...

Same. All is borked here now. 😛

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Some work, some dont, some timeout. Hue doesn't recover. Also takes a while to fully boot.

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Haven't tried full restart with power off yet.

prisma igloo May 30, 2023, 10:49 AM

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low notch not if the host has google cached

Does docker just re-use the host DNS settings?

indigo otter May 30, 2023, 10:50 AM

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Did a full restart already, no custom cards are working, even checked if the cards are still installed. any hint what log to show?

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 10:51 AM

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If it's really cards then #frontend-archived can help

indigo otter May 30, 2023, 11:01 AM

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Logs accesible from the web interface have nothing in there regarding frontend.
Mushroom is working, custom:mini-graph-card and custom:energy-overview-card are not shown on any dashboard

past brook May 30, 2023, 11:02 AM

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I don't know what it is but it feels very network related. Integrations go off and online. Devices cannot be reached.

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 11:04 AM

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indigo otter Logs accesible from the web interface have nothing in there regarding frontend. ...

There's a #frontend-archived channel... that can help with cards

prisma igloo May 30, 2023, 11:20 AM

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low notch not if the host has google cached

turns out it was a broken symbolic link from /etc/resolv.conf

low notch May 30, 2023, 11:23 AM

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told you, host issue

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don't know why resolv.conf would ever be a symlink

prisma igloo May 30, 2023, 11:24 AM

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low notch told you, host issue

host doesn't use resolv.conf, which is why it was working fine, whereas it appears docker uses it.

low notch May 30, 2023, 11:25 AM

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I have no idea whats running on your machine

frank perch May 30, 2023, 11:56 AM

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low notch Last time I‘ve physically touched my HA pi is months ago

it's prolly lonely, you should give it a rub every once in a while to make it feel appreciated

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 1:45 PM

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@quick wagon

the first one says " NGINX is used as a reverse proxy, ensuring that traffic that comes in over a particular port is carried over a secure SSL connection"

isn't that what let's encrypt already does?
No, LetsEncrypt provides you with an SSL certificate. You have to use that certificate - either directly in Home Assistant or in something like NGINX

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 1:47 PM

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So what should I do

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duckdns + let's encrypt only?

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 1:47 PM

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Do you want to access HA locally using the IP or homeassistant.local? Or are you happy to always use your DuckDNS/whatever domain name?

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 1:49 PM

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I don't think it will impose a difference, I already use my stream deck to open HA website, so I don't write the url everytime

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 1:49 PM

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Right, but in one case you're accessing it using your public domain name every time, which requires working Internet

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In the other you're doing what you're doing today - going directly to the HA host

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(you really need to learn about networking)

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 1:50 PM

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humble mirage (you _really_ need to learn about networking)

I really do

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sorry for the ping

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 1:50 PM

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If you're happy to rely on your Internet connection then just use the DuckDNS add-on and do it all in HA

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If you'd rather not then use a reverse proxy, like NGINX

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 1:51 PM

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humble mirage If you're happy to rely on your Internet connection then just use the DuckDNS ad...

so NGINX will allow me to use both the public and the privet domain?

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 1:51 PM

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Kind of, yes

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NGINX will be used with the public domain, and bypassed for local

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 1:51 PM

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I guess that will be better

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I tried to set up duckdns with nginx a few weeks ago and faced a lot of problems, But I think the main issue was because of my port forwarding

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because I'm using an eero mesh network connected to router/modem combo isp (which I can't bridge)

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 1:53 PM

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Well, at least using the NGINX route you won't break your local access

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 1:54 PM

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quick wagon because I'm using an eero mesh network connected to router/modem combo isp (whic...

I could give you a summary of the problem if you can help

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 1:55 PM

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Port forward your chosen port from the router to the Eero's WAN IP, and then from the EEro to HA

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 1:57 PM

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yes someone told me to port 443 to 443 using eero ip and another port 8123 to 8123 for eero in my isp

then 8123 to 443 in eero app

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is that what you mean?

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 1:59 PM

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Well, no - pick one port and forward it all the way

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 2:00 PM

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can you give an example please?

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isp internal 8123 -> external 8123 (to eero's ip)
eero internal 8123 -> external 8123 (to HA's ip)

?

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 2:03 PM

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Yes

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 2:04 PM

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okay I'll try that, thank you

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https://prnt.sc/fies5LRsIs2X

When port forwarding in my isp, do I leave the "External Source IP Address" empty?

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 2:08 PM

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Yes

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https://portforward.com/ is a handy site to explain many router setups

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 4:01 PM

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https://prnt.sc/FTxU5FPtaBkn

every time I tried to update HA I got an error,
I rebooted the server and got this

raven forge May 30, 2023, 4:02 PM

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What hardware are you running this on?

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 4:07 PM

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an old laptop, with HAOS installed directly on the internal drive

raven forge May 30, 2023, 4:09 PM

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Just trying to make sure it's not a pi with sd card or SSD without appropriate power causing corruption because that looks like corrupted/dying storage

low notch May 30, 2023, 4:18 PM

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rip

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 4:25 PM

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The internal drive is a hdd drive

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Been running for more than a week

frank perch May 30, 2023, 4:25 PM

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runs after it

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 4:25 PM

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Doesn't matter how long it's been running, it's dead

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https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-hesdeadjim-gif-25579972

Tenor

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 4:26 PM

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Why?

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 4:26 PM

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an old laptop

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Because ☝️

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All electronics die. Storage (and power supplies) tend to die sooner than other stuff.

frank perch May 30, 2023, 4:26 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/hahaha-run-forrest-gump-tom-hanks-gif-4170876

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 4:26 PM

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so do I just get an ssd?

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 4:27 PM

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SD cards die very fast, HDDs die at what seems like random, SSDs usually last longer

frank perch May 30, 2023, 4:27 PM

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humble mirage All electronics die. Storage (and power supplies) tend to die sooner than other ...

but not all electronics truly live

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 4:27 PM

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(HDDs tend to have a bathtub curve for their failure rates)

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https://tenor.com/view/dancing-robot-celebrate-boogie-happy-gif-20200497

Tenor

frank perch May 30, 2023, 4:28 PM

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MTBF is low, but never 0

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 4:28 PM

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MBTF is also rarely helpful to consumers ... usually

low notch May 30, 2023, 4:28 PM

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my experience is they either die in their first 3 years or they live forever

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there is no in between, no.

frank perch May 30, 2023, 4:29 PM

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Must bin the floppies?

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tink made a booboo

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 4:29 PM

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https://www.backblaze.com/b2/hard-drive-test-data.html

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 4:47 PM

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humble mirage Doesn't matter how long it's been running, it's dead

and that means that I lost all HA automations and have to start from the zero right ?

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that's why I should've backed up to the cloud -_-

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 4:49 PM

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Well, it's not a backup if you leave it on the computer you're backing up

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Cloud, some other computer, even an external drive...

raven forge May 30, 2023, 4:50 PM

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It's very much possible that only certain things are corrupted and your precious data is "fine"

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 4:51 PM

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Drive recovery software is worth a shot, though obviously it needs to know Linux file systems

raven forge May 30, 2023, 4:52 PM

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Stop the laptop, do not write any more to the disk and plug it into another computer to read/copy its data off of it

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 4:53 PM

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raven forge Stop the laptop, do not write any more to the disk and plug it into another comp...

then?

low notch May 30, 2023, 4:56 PM

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then go through it bit by bit

barren goblet May 30, 2023, 4:57 PM

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Hi everyone, quick question. Would it work if I installed HA to an external NVME in an enclosure (USB) on my old laptop, then simply unplugged it and ran it from a mini PC when I get around to getting a cheap one? Or would I have to do a backup/restore on the new one instead of plug and play?

swift root May 30, 2023, 7:07 PM

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Hii,
On this page https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/macos/, it's x86_64 image ? How get image for ARM (M1 M2 Chip) ??

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 7:09 PM

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swift root Hii, On this page https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/macos/, it's x86_64...

Don't believe there is one

swift root May 30, 2023, 7:09 PM

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humble mirage Don't believe there is one

Okay thanks

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I found solution https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases

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aarch img on this link

neon wave May 30, 2023, 8:11 PM

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Seems like my server didnt like update from 2022.11 to latest. I see there is a mariadb update from 10.5 to 10.11 Now there is a problem with the mariasql complaining it cant find a .pid file. I have searched online and see it is something related to innodb.
Is there a easy way to revert it to 2022.11 image?

From .err under mariadb if anyone has an idea:

023-05-30 19:46:44 0 [Note] Starting MariaDB 10.11.3-MariaDB-log source revision 0bb31039f54bd6a0dc8f0fc7d40e6b58a51998b0 as process
2023-05-30 19:46:44 0 [ERROR] InnoDB: Upgrade after a crash is not supported. The redo log was created with MariaDB 10.5.13. You must start up and shut down MariaDB 10.7 or earlier.
2023-05-30 19:46:44 0 [ERROR] InnoDB: Plugin initialization aborted with error Generic error
2023-05-30 19:46:44 0 [Note] InnoDB: Starting shutdown...
2023-05-30 19:46:44 0 [ERROR] Plugin 'InnoDB' init function returned error.
2023-05-30 19:46:44 0 [ERROR] Plugin 'InnoDB' registration as a STORAGE ENGINE failed.

warped oxide May 30, 2023, 8:15 PM

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I NEED A ISO FOR OS

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I CAN NOT INSTALL A .IMG FILE ON MY SERVER

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HELP ME

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Turn off caps lock 😉

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And ... there's no ISO

warped oxide May 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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ok]

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pls help

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 8:19 PM

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What are you trying to do?

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Have you found the installation docs already?

warped oxide May 30, 2023, 8:19 PM

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trying to install it on a dell poweredge 1950 yes i have found it

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 8:20 PM

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You write the image to the boot disk, or install Proxmox and install HAOS in a VM... which would be the better idea on a server like that

swift root May 30, 2023, 8:20 PM

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Hi,
How to restore backup on x86_64 to aarch64 ?

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 8:20 PM

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Just restore the backup

swift root May 30, 2023, 8:20 PM

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It's doesn't work

warped oxide May 30, 2023, 8:20 PM

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i do not know how

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 8:20 PM

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How to what?

frank perch May 30, 2023, 8:21 PM

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warped oxide i do not know how

read the guide?

warped oxide May 30, 2023, 8:21 PM

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restore the backup

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 8:21 PM

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I wasn't responding to you there...

warped oxide May 30, 2023, 8:21 PM

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ok

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 8:21 PM

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For you... https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve and then https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative#install-home-assistant-operating-system

swift root May 30, 2023, 8:22 PM

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I've the logo HA with a spinner since 10 min 😦

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 8:22 PM

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It can take a while on large backups

warped oxide May 30, 2023, 8:23 PM

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any one have any ideas on what else i can run it on

frank perch May 30, 2023, 8:23 PM

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it can take a while on small backups

frank perch May 30, 2023, 8:23 PM

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warped oxide any one have any ideas on what else i can run it on

run what on?

swift root May 30, 2023, 8:23 PM

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humble mirage It can take a while on large backups

there is not indicator or pourcentage bar it's normal ?

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 8:23 PM

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No, there's not

warped oxide May 30, 2023, 8:23 PM

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hoas

frank perch May 30, 2023, 8:23 PM

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no, its normal

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 8:23 PM

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warped oxide hoas

For you... https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve and then https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative#install-home-assistant-operating-system

swift root May 30, 2023, 8:24 PM

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humble mirage No, there's not

Okay i waiting

warped oxide May 30, 2023, 8:24 PM

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hardware like a chromebook

frank perch May 30, 2023, 8:24 PM

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ask in #hardware-archived

humble mirage May 30, 2023, 8:24 PM

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Install Proxmox on your server

neon wave May 30, 2023, 8:27 PM

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neon wave Seems like my server didnt like update from 2022.11 to latest. I see there is a ...

adding this to the error messages... mariadb | Caught SIGTERM signal!
mariadb | cat: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid: No such file or directory

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any inputs and thoughts appreciated

swift root May 30, 2023, 8:28 PM

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warped oxide hardware like a chromebook

you talk to me ?

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I see on reddit there wait 2-3 hours for 800MB backup. My backup size is 124MB and restoration run since 20 min now i'm waiting.

swift root May 30, 2023, 9:09 PM

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Nothing work, i tried to restore after config HomeAssistant but nothing happens. I need help

thin monolith May 30, 2023, 9:13 PM

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hi! I'm going to replace my old install (raspberry pi 4) with an i3 intel nuc. For those of use who have tried both, would you install HA as a container (Docker, LXC) or HAOS virtualized? I wonder if giving up on HA addons would feel like a chore, having to setup all containers myself, or its not that big of a deal

raven forge May 30, 2023, 9:25 PM

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Only you can answer that but it probably will. Nowadays I'd always virtualize. I'd suggest you run HAOS and install additional things in a separate VM or container when needed. Personally I feel too restricted by HAOS and use a docker install but many people love it

neon wave May 30, 2023, 9:27 PM

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Thanks for the no-help 🙂 fixed it myself by renaming the mariadb folder and rebuild it

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:32 PM

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I run it in docker on a i7 nuc and deploy everyting else I need myself as Docker Containers. For me it feels like i"m able to rollback certain things easier and it makes getting rid of stuff and backing it up more easy to me. As I already had a Workflow for that cause I started with some other non IOT related stuff years ago. Like Document management in Paperless which I also dockerized.

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:34 PM

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I want to buy an ssd for HA server, and found

15.5$ for 128GB
18$ for 256Gb
25$ for 512Gb

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is it worth getting the 512 over the 256?

frank perch May 30, 2023, 9:34 PM

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always

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:35 PM

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does HA take that much space?

frank perch May 30, 2023, 9:35 PM

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well not generally no

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but it has the potential

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:35 PM

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Not HA but you might find yourself installing something that does

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😄

frank perch May 30, 2023, 9:35 PM

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also that

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:35 PM

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or adding media.. you never know

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:36 PM

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pliant pivot Not HA but you might find yourself installing something that does

the ssd will only be HAOS

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:36 PM

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brittle sail or adding media.. you never know

yeah that makes more sense

frank perch May 30, 2023, 9:36 PM

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for $6 more for double the capacity

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this is not a question I would have had, ever

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:36 PM

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Like a Camera integration that takes snapshots and send them to you, you forget about deleting it afterwards an the Disk fills up

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:36 PM

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10$ 0_0

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:36 PM

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well personally i'd use a samsong 870 evo or something instead of w/e ssd is $25 for 500 gigs

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but you can get away with a cheaper kingston a400 etc if you want to save $ i guess

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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for example, and Storage is so cheap nowadays that I would always go with the biggest viable option

frank perch May 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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a lot of them are cheap as dirt now Smart

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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brittle sail well personally i'd use a samsong 870 evo or something instead of w/e ssd is $25...

it's Silicon Power Ace A55

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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eww

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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get a reputable brand for HA

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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if i havent heard of the brand i dont buy it especially for drives

frank perch May 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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my 256gb SSD cost me like $45 here in The Bahamas, retail

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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Samsung, Sandisk and Kingstone are not that expensive

frank perch May 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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it's a kingston

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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And well proven to work reliable

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:38 PM

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quick wagon it's Silicon Power Ace A55

are you in the us?

frank perch May 30, 2023, 9:38 PM

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and for The Bahamas to have SSD for $45, must be like $3 somewhere else

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:38 PM

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brittle sail are you in the us?

KSA

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:38 PM

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ah

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still i'd get a samsung personally

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:38 PM

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samsung 500gb would be 50$

frank perch May 30, 2023, 9:38 PM

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I would too in a perfect world

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:38 PM

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i'd go 120gb samsung over 500gb noname

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:38 PM

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almost double the 28

frank perch May 30, 2023, 9:39 PM

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still $50 is not bad

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:39 PM

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I just offloaded everything to my NAS 😄

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:39 PM

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pliant pivot I just offloaded everything to my NAS 😄

i keep my server separate from my network separate from my smart home separate from my heat/ac separate from my cameras

frank perch May 30, 2023, 9:39 PM

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like I said I paid $45 for a 256 and that's pretty damn good for here

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the 512 is like $80 I think

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see my price difference made me go with 256, but for $18/$25.... that's a no brainer

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:40 PM

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quick wagon I want to buy an ssd for HA server, and found 15.5$ for 128GB 18$ for 256Gb 25$...

I found 480Gb Kingstone for same 28$

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:40 PM

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brittle sail i keep my server separate from my network separate from my smart home separate f...

Yes but 😄 I needed backups anyways and the easiest way was a read only mounted boot drive and them mount a shared volume of my NAS to my NUC

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the NAS was already doing backups to a remote location where I run a second one with almost the Same specs that just runns minio

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But in general I also prefer to keep it seperate

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:42 PM

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quick wagon I found 480Gb Kingstone for same 28$

what you guys think?

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:42 PM

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sounds fair, but even a good drive is not a replacement for an offsite backup

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:43 PM

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i have a few kingston a400 they arent the fastest but they've been reliable

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they arent QLC

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:43 PM

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If you want to run your house off it without pissing off your Wife, make sure it's stable and quickly up and running again if something fails 😄

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:43 PM

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pliant pivot sounds fair, but even a good drive is not a replacement for an offsite backup

tell me about it, I'm buying an ssd cuz my hdd died on me

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well at least I think it died.. I didn't check or try to fix

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:46 PM

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Well, I just bought everything twice, set it up the same way and then threw one into storage, the only difference is the backup hardware runns it's BaseOS off a HDD cause an SSD might lose data if it is not powered for a long time(talking years of storage) and I also made myself an PSU adapter for the NUC(they run fine off 12V) so I could even power it out of the DC/DC converter thats connected to my PV Battery

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:49 PM

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currently I can't justify getting a NAS

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but might do in the future

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:50 PM

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you do not need a NAS for it, there are cloud services that do not charge a lot for small amounts of storage, as long as you backup your integration configs as well as the main config.yaml you should be back up and running quickly

neon wave May 30, 2023, 9:50 PM

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quick wagon currently I can't justify getting a NAS

If you have a old mainboard, cpu and ram flyingaround.. and the mainboard supports raid1... and you find your a couple of hdds... you can easily install xpenology as a docker image from core.

raven forge May 30, 2023, 9:50 PM

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Plug a big storage medium into your existing server and you can technically have a NAS

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:51 PM

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neon wave If you have a old mainboard, cpu and ram flyingaround.. and the mainboard suppor...

ye or just use FreeNAS

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:51 PM

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neon wave If you have a old mainboard, cpu and ram flyingaround.. and the mainboard suppor...

I do have maybe total of 4-5 laptops laying around unused

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but I don't think I need a nas currently

neon wave May 30, 2023, 9:51 PM

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yeah. freenas is legit . I tried to use xpenology but the update sequence from version to version was not flawless.

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I have learned today:

create mariadb backups
create gui backups
create container backups
create enviroment backups

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:53 PM

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just to be sure.. my laptop with 2.5 inch hdd would fit a 2.5 ssd, both have the same thickness right?

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:53 PM

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ye

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:53 PM

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great

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:53 PM

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as long as it has a sata port

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:54 PM

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I got Kingston A400 SATA SSD

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hope it lives long

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:54 PM

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you should still setup automated backups to google drive or something

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:55 PM

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brittle sail you should still setup automated backups to google drive or something

I should, that's why I asked how large are the back ups?

neon wave May 30, 2023, 9:55 PM

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download kingston ssd manager and run firmware update on the ssd to ensure it got the newest optimizations.

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:55 PM

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gdrive is a great solution and the free 5gb? are more than enough for your configs

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:55 PM

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quick wagon I should, that's why I asked how large are the back ups?

backup size depends on size of db and addons

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:55 PM

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I know it will depend

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but the average is about how much?

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:56 PM

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mine are 500mb nowadays

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:56 PM

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I'm at 700mb for the Homeassistant docker container atm

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:56 PM

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brittle sail mine are 500mb nowadays

I could use the free plan of google drive 0_0

neon wave May 30, 2023, 9:56 PM

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just linking up the container to the gdrive then or run freebackup software or something?

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:57 PM

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and you guys have it back up every how much time?

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 9:57 PM

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i use a third party nextcloud backup addon in haos

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:57 PM

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And you could do like a daily or weekly backup then delete like 4 out of 4 backups per month

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as soon as you reach a year you could keep on of the backups for that year and delete the rest

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to free up some space

neon wave May 30, 2023, 9:58 PM

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it is the updates that ruin the most. So backup before upgrades! 😛

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:58 PM

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quick wagon and you guys have it back up every how much time?

Daily, Monthly and event triggered

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:58 PM

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event triggered?

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:58 PM

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yep

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:58 PM

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like updates?

neon wave May 30, 2023, 9:58 PM

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quick wagon event triggered?

when you unlock your front door at home 😄

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:59 PM

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neon wave when you unlock your front door at home 😄

bro why

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:59 PM

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Before my Scripts rum the deploy script for my containers it does backups

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:59 PM

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isn't that a lot of backing up?

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 9:59 PM

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better be safe than sorry

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😄

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and it's like one line of code in my script

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 9:59 PM

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I can understand daily, but after every event??

neon wave May 30, 2023, 10:00 PM

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backups goes in the hidden. So it will not take much space either. With free-space at google you should have some good retentions.

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 10:00 PM

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not like every Hass event

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 10:00 PM

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pliant pivot Before my Scripts rum the deploy script for my containers it does backups

doesn't that cause a delay?

brittle sail May 30, 2023, 10:00 PM

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weekly + before each update is plenty

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or monthly if you dont change shit or care about historical data

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 10:00 PM

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brittle sail weekly + before each update is plenty

That's what I thought

neon wave May 30, 2023, 10:00 PM

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agree. i lost all historical data todayy

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 10:01 PM

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I have a bash script that updates my containers every week, that also triggers the backup script, waits for it to finish and send back a "ok" message

quick wagon May 30, 2023, 10:01 PM

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I lost all my power consumptions : (

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 10:01 PM

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then it continues with redeployment

neon wave May 30, 2023, 10:02 PM

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pliant pivot I have a bash script that updates my containers every week, that also triggers t...

sound very okay routine

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good luck @quick wagon

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 10:03 PM

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It also sends me an email if the backup does not work but thats handled by the backup script itself

vagrant anchor May 30, 2023, 10:22 PM

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i want to enable turn on lan feature on an lg web os tv does anyone know how

pliant pivot May 30, 2023, 10:29 PM

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LAN feature?

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you mean you want to use the API over Ethernet?

barren goblet May 31, 2023, 12:15 AM

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Hi everyone, quick question. Would it work if I installed HA to an external NVME in an enclosure (USB) on my old laptop, then simply unplugged it and ran it from a mini PC when I get around to getting a cheap one? Or would I have to do a backup/restore on the new one instead of plug and play?

cobalt timber May 31, 2023, 2:59 AM

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vagrant anchor i want to enable turn on lan feature on an lg web os tv does anyone know how

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/wake_on_lan/ and this blueprint https://community.home-assistant.io/t/lg-webos-smart-tv-enable-turn-on-action-for-ha-2022-2/388153

I just set this up the other day. Also your you need to enable turn on via WiFi in your TV settings.

copper ledge May 31, 2023, 4:43 AM

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Can someone confirm that home assistant 's docker is over 1 GB?

low notch May 31, 2023, 5:26 AM

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Yes, 1.6gb

placid island May 31, 2023, 11:26 AM

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Hello, hopefully im here in the right Channel.
I have HA running on a Rpi4 which boots from a ssd.
Now i want to Backup to an external Hdd..
How Do i Mount this into HA OS?

Is the Volumename CONFIG the way to Go?

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 11:49 AM

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HAOS doesn't support mounting disks like thhat

brittle sail May 31, 2023, 1:34 PM

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Yet?

empty bloom May 31, 2023, 1:55 PM

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Yet.

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IIRC it's being worked on

frank perch May 31, 2023, 1:55 PM

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Well cifs mounts work

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You just can't do anything with them

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Lololol

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 3:43 PM

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https://prnt.sc/pBUeWYUeEQiI

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error when trying to flash an image on drive using the url

raven forge May 31, 2023, 3:44 PM

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Use a local file

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 3:44 PM

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I tried, it also failed

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 3:44 PM

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Please also copy the text of the error, and share that, rather than sharing an image of the start of the error

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 3:44 PM

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Error: Error invoking remote method 'enable-screensaver': No handler registered for 'enable-screensaver'
at o.invoke (node:electron/js2c/renderer_init:57:526)

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 3:45 PM

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Are you trying to write to the failing HDD?

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 3:45 PM

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no

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a brand new kingstone ssd

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 3:46 PM

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if i were you i'd just try using Rufus

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you can use it without installing with the portable exe

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and its 1 megabyte

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https://rufus.ie/en/

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 3:48 PM

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humble mirage Please also copy the text of the error, and share that, rather than sharing an i...

https://prnt.sc/A9yILF9w-OYm

I'm sorry, I couldn't copy this

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rusfus is not letting me choose the ssd

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 3:49 PM

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can you show a screenshot

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 3:49 PM

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it only shows usbs

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 3:49 PM

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click ctrl+alt+f

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 3:50 PM

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it says the detection of non usb devices is enabled but still

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https://prnt.sc/6pLdEqYdX6u2

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 3:50 PM

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alt+f is nto the same as ctrl+alt+f

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 3:51 PM

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hard disk enabled, but still

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https://prnt.sc/TYCSlXyhoG4a

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 3:54 PM

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seems like rufus is designed to only write to usb drives

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 3:59 PM

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even though etcher says it failed, doesn't that look like it flashed it fine?

https://prnt.sc/mRP5jiGILFvx

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the error shows after finishing

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 3:59 PM

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those are some weird partitions lol but i don tknow how the haos is structured

raven forge May 31, 2023, 4:00 PM

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I'd try it with just the .img, as in, extract it yourself, but there's other options here: https://alternativeto.net/software/etcher/
It will create multiple partitions. It might have just been stuck on one of them. Did you have Disk Management open while flashing?

low notch May 31, 2023, 4:00 PM

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it writes the partition table first, doesn't mean their contents is also finished. very much the opposite

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 4:04 PM

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raven forge I'd try it with just the `.img`, as in, extract it yourself, but there's other o...

also failed

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doesn't matter if disk management open or not, both failed

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 4:06 PM

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sounds like disk issues

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 4:06 PM

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bro I just bought it 0_0

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https://prnt.sc/tUa4eiwujoKZ

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 4:07 PM

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try a reboot or something

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 4:07 PM

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already restarted the pc

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 4:07 PM

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write from linux using dd 🧌

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 4:07 PM

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Could also be a problem with the USB adapter you're using, if you're using one

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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i dont think they are

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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it's directly plugged to pc via sata cable

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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also is the ha os iso an installer or

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meant to be written directly

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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No ISO

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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img.xz

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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It's a disk image

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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wow

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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Your tool may require you to uncompress it first

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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its almost like iso means optical disc image

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lol

grand pivot May 31, 2023, 4:10 PM

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First, burn this CD image..

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 4:12 PM

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humble mirage Your tool may require you to uncompress it first

I tried both, still failed

lunar oxide May 31, 2023, 4:12 PM

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well at that point i'd just try writing it with dd

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 4:13 PM

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That or booting from a Debian USB stick and install Debian just to prove the hardware

frank perch May 31, 2023, 4:17 PM

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yeah you'd have to decompress it to .img

eternal tartan May 31, 2023, 4:21 PM

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Hi all. Im having a bit of an issue. I did a restart of HA and now i cant reach it anymore. is this the right channel to get som help and input?

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 4:22 PM

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Yes it is

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Hopefully you have either working SSH access, or a keyboard and monitor to connect to it

eternal tartan May 31, 2023, 4:26 PM

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everything worked fine except an intergration that sometimes stop working but comes back after a restart, so i did that. Now i can see it on my router, i can connect to it and get all files throug explorer, and if i type in ip::4357 everything is fine and healty but i cant reach it via ip. And nabu casa cant see that its online

indigo summit May 31, 2023, 4:26 PM

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quick wagon I tried both, still failed

are you running etcher with Admin privileges on Windows? you could also try downloading the image file from the URL to your PC and then flash

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 4:26 PM

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indigo summit are you running etcher with Admin privileges on Windows? you could also try down...

Yes, and I tried both from url and file

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both failed

indigo summit May 31, 2023, 4:30 PM

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in the screenshot you sent earlier it appeared some data was written to the drive. Maybe attempt to boot it and see what happens. Assisting a friend with an install recently, etcher continuously failed at 28% writing (program would crash entirely), yet, it still seemed to have written successfully (seeing similar disk results), and upon rebooting all was good to go

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 4:31 PM

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it fails after finishing

indigo summit May 31, 2023, 4:32 PM

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etcher says it failed (as it did for me), but you do see partitions being created on the drive (as did I). Might be worth a shot. If not, flashing directly from the machine (booting from a live USB) is really easy

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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will do

raven forge May 31, 2023, 4:34 PM

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See here for a manual way: <#installation-archived message>
You shouldn't have to do that but 🤷

quick wagon May 31, 2023, 4:35 PM

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I think I did it

https://prnt.sc/k6pfM5Ed8jGZ

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I found out it always fails after flashing and while validating

so I just skipped the validation

indigo summit May 31, 2023, 4:37 PM

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skip it, and ship it, haha

eternal tartan May 31, 2023, 4:54 PM

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humble mirage Hopefully you have either working SSH access, or a keyboard and monitor to conne...

i have the ssh addon in HA im pretty sure...

raven forge May 31, 2023, 4:57 PM

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But did you set it up to listen on a port so you can actually connect to it?

eternal tartan May 31, 2023, 5:06 PM

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raven forge But did you set it up to listen on a port so you can actually connect to it?

dosnt look like it 😦 and cant find the mini hdmi cable to connect to monitor....... need to buy that tomorrow then.,..... sucks, all i did was a restart

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and i cant do anything from explorer right? i can see all the files

raven forge May 31, 2023, 5:07 PM

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That simply means that the samba addon/container is running, I guess. You can't really do any diagnosing with that

eternal tartan May 31, 2023, 5:08 PM

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ok.... but the SD card should be fine if i can see this : Home Assistant observer
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

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right?

raven forge May 31, 2023, 5:09 PM

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I'd have to research how it determines that but that's not a bad sign

eternal tartan May 31, 2023, 5:10 PM

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but if i get a mini hdmi so i can connect it to a monitor and a usb keyboard, what can i do ?

raven forge May 31, 2023, 5:12 PM

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Depends. Checking the logs would be a start: https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/operating-system/debugging/#checking-the-logs

languid isle May 31, 2023, 5:45 PM

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hi need some help on installing HA OS on proxmox

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 5:46 PM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/installing-home-assistant-os-using-proxmox-7/201835

languid isle May 31, 2023, 5:46 PM

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I enter the command: bash -c "$(wget -qLO - https://github.com/tteck/Proxmox/raw/main/vm/haos-vm.sh)" in proxmox shell

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and nothing happens

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what am I doing wrong here?

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 5:49 PM

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I just tried it on a non-Proxmox box (as I don't have a spare Proxmox host to test on) and it worked

languid isle May 31, 2023, 5:50 PM

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is there some setting I need to do before running this command?

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it just goes to a new line in the shell

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 5:50 PM

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Assuming you're following the guide step by step, just the previous steps

raven forge May 31, 2023, 5:51 PM

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Try to do the steps manually. Something like this

wget https://github.com/tteck/Proxmox/raw/main/vm/haos-vm.sh
bash haos-vm.sh

If that still doesn't do anything, try bash -x haos-vm.sh

languid isle May 31, 2023, 5:53 PM

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--2023-06-01 01:52:23--  https://github.com/tteck/Proxmox/raw/main/vm/haos-vm.s
Resolving github.com (github.com)... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution.
wget: unable to resolve host address ‘github.com’
root@pve:~#

raven forge May 31, 2023, 5:53 PM

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Well, seems like your proxmox install is misconfigured. Show the contents of /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/network/interfaces and output of ip a

languid isle May 31, 2023, 5:56 PM

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what ip shoule my nameserver be?

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currently it is 127.0.0.1

raven forge May 31, 2023, 5:57 PM

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The gateway ip is usually a good choice. You can use a public one like 1.1.1.1 but miss out on local name resolution.
I can probably tell you something more specific if you get me what I asked for

languid isle May 31, 2023, 5:58 PM

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/etc/resolv.conf:

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nameserver 127.0.0.1```

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 5:58 PM

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That's only sensible if you're running a DNS server on that computer

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Which on Proxmox is pretty damn unlikely

raven forge May 31, 2023, 5:59 PM

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What about the rest?

languid isle May 31, 2023, 6:01 PM

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ip a:

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1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eno1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast master vmbr0 state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 10:a0:76:db:62:1f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    altname enp0s31f6
3: vmbr0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 10:a0:76:db:62:1f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 10.10.1.123/24 scope global vmbr0
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 fe80::42b0:76ff:fedb:621f/64 scope link 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever```

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I dont have a /etc/network/interfaces

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 6:02 PM

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Whatever you're doing ... stop

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Just set a valid, sane, nameserver IP

raven forge May 31, 2023, 6:02 PM

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Try 10.10.1.1. How did you install proxmox?

languid isle May 31, 2023, 6:03 PM

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from a usb stick

languid isle May 31, 2023, 6:03 PM

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humble mirage Just set a valid, sane, nameserver IP

where do I set this?

raven forge May 31, 2023, 6:04 PM

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/etc/resolv.conf

languid isle May 31, 2023, 6:04 PM

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languid isle ```search server.local nameserver 127.0.0.1```

so I should change 127.0.0.1 to?

raven forge May 31, 2023, 6:04 PM

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<#installation-archived message>

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You can actually change this in the web interface as well under yournode > System > DNS

languid isle May 31, 2023, 6:06 PM

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I should change it to 10.10.1.123?

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or my gateway ip?

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 6:07 PM

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The gateway ip is usually a good choice

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Try 10.10.1.1

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It's almost like you were told these things already 😛

languid isle May 31, 2023, 6:07 PM

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thanks

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sorry... this is way above my IT grade

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now it works! gosh.....

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thank you so much!

visual stirrup May 31, 2023, 6:50 PM

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Okay, I am struggling to install HAOS on my dedicated miniPC.
I have this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09B1XGNKV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And this SSD: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003J5JB12/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And a bunch of USBs. I'm trying to use Balena Etcher to write to either a USB or the SSD, but the mini PC just boots Ubuntu every time. And Ubuntu works so slowly it is basically useless on this machine (I may need hardwire mouse/keyboard). I tried to use my regular windows PC to use Balena etcher and have been struggling with that and either it fails or it just won't boot HAOS.

Not sure of what else to do here.

raven forge May 31, 2023, 6:57 PM

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Put it on the storage containing ubuntu or go into bios and change the boot medium. Make sure to enable UEFI booting

visual stirrup May 31, 2023, 7:25 PM

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So on my computer I see a section called (boot/efi) where I could potentially put HAOS onto. Will that work?

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(When I open Balena Etcher and try to flash)

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 7:25 PM

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Not onto that partition, no

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You write the image to the whole drive

visual stirrup May 31, 2023, 7:25 PM

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Okay, that's what I thought

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Hmm, I have some partitions created when I installed Ubuntu onto this machine

humble mirage May 31, 2023, 7:26 PM

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When you write the image it over-writes anything that's there already, erasing it all

visual stirrup May 31, 2023, 7:27 PM

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Yeah, but in balena etcher those partitions are locked

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I have this SSD but it fails every time I try to flash to it

frank perch May 31, 2023, 7:29 PM

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what about a live usb and booting from that?

visual stirrup May 31, 2023, 7:30 PM

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Yeah, I'm flashing to a USB right now one more time and seeing if I can't get it to work

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I think there's some weird stuff where it doesn't work if you flash from a windows machine or something

frank perch May 31, 2023, 7:31 PM

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I flashed from a windows machine just fine many many times

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but I've also used live Ubuntu to flash

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when windows was behaving like windows

visual stirrup May 31, 2023, 7:34 PM

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I got it to work by reflashing the USB from Linux 😐

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But I don't really want to use a live USB because this one is weirdly finicky.

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Gotta figure out how to get this booted from my SSD eventually

frank perch May 31, 2023, 7:36 PM

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you only need it for the flashing tho

visual stirrup May 31, 2023, 7:36 PM

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Doesn't it boot from the USB when you flash to a USB?

frank perch May 31, 2023, 7:44 PM

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no

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when you flash the img to a hard drive from the usb, you take the usb out and boot the image on the drive

runic ferry Jun 1, 2023, 12:29 AM

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ho

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 4:20 AM

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it is HA, not ho

sonic wharf Jun 1, 2023, 7:58 AM

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Hi. After an update yesterday (done through the Android app) my HomeAssistant will not boot. HA runs as a VM. The boot fails when trying to find a partition labelled hassos-data - lsblk tells me there is no partition labelled that, only partitions labelled hassos-boot, hassos-overlay & hassos-data-old. How can I recover my system?

vocal grail Jun 1, 2023, 10:26 AM

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Hi everyone, I have Home assistant OS installed on a NUC Mini Pc.

I also wanted a plex server installed so I found an addon but I figured it’s not the best way to do it as I can’t add libraries from external hard disk.

What would be your advice to have HA & Plex server hosted on a NUC ?
Should I install Windows with Plex server + a VM with HA on it ?

I want something easy and not complex

copper steppe Jun 1, 2023, 10:27 AM

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I’d use proxmox

vocal grail Jun 1, 2023, 10:28 AM

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Ok I never heard of that, is it free ?

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I also had installed transmission torrent client on my HA, is it possible to do the same with proxmox ?

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 10:34 AM

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You can do pretty much the same thing with a HAOS VM that you can do with a bare-metal install of it

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:36 AM

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Hey guys, I'm having a proxmox issue that hopefully someone can help with - sorry if this is a rookie question but I'm new to this and haven't even installed Linux before so I have no idea what I'm doing

I'm trying to follow this guide https://www.derekseaman.com/2023/04/installing-home-assistant-on-proxmox-quick-start-guide.html

And for the ip section it says if you're plugged into your router it'll grab an address and populate the rest of the info

Now that it's installed its telling me to go to a website to configure the server, but the site it's telling me to go to is 192.168.100.x, but everything else on the network seems to be 192.168.1.x, and I don't know how to access the proxmox server?

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 10:37 AM

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Someone had to give it the 192.168.100.x. You can open the VM's VNC console, type login and then ip a to get the address of the VM

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:38 AM

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It was auto configured to 100.x

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When I had it plugged into my router, that was the default option

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I did ip a and it's come back with 3 things - first is 127.0.0.1, second is... Something that doesn't make sense? And the third thing is the same 192.168.100.x ip from before

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 AM

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Looks like your router's DHCP server gives out 192.168.100.x adresseses. Is everything else configured with static ip adresses or do you perhaps use VLANs?
Kinda strange that your PC would get 192.168.1.x assigned while the VM gets 192.168.100.x on a "normal" network

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:41 AM

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I'm not sure what that means sorry - I'm very new to this

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I do have static ip set for a lot of things, but not everything

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Like my laptop and HA instance, and some Shelly devices etc are all static ip

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But I don't know what vlans are?

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I honestly didn't know it was possible for my router to give it anything other than 168.1.x honestly

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Also if it helps my router is based in 168.1.x

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:44 AM

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Careful what you type

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Oh you just leave the 192 away thats ok i was confused

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There‘s no reason to use static ips on those clients

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 10:45 AM

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Seems like your routers uses 192.168.100.x and you statically assign 192.168.1.x.
You can statically assign the same to your HAOS if you want with ha network update ....
Using different ranges is probably not a good idea for network beginners though

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:46 AM

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raven forge Seems like your routers uses `192.168.100.x` and you statically assign `192.168....

I thought since my router was based at 192.168.1.x that that's what it would be assigning to everything though?

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I am so confused

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:46 AM

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Thats probably your issue, your proxmox doing some subnet mask fuckery to talk to some clients in the other net

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 AM

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This is so confusing

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Is there a way to fix it?

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Force proxmox into 168.1 so I can configure the network like in the guide?

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 AM

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Have everything use your perfectly fine dhcp advertisements

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No static stuff and you should be fine

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 AM

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Proxmox really likes to use/have a static ip though. A DHCP lease works if configured manually but the network editor in the UI will not understand it and mess the config up

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 AM

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I was under the impression ha does too

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 AM

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„Static dhcp leases“ are not the same as static ip settings on clients

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 AM

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And the Shelly's I just did so I could tell which one was which if I ever needed to change the settings for one of them

humble mirage Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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You can use static DHCP leases

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That's cleaner and harder to break your network with

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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Uhh, how do I do that?

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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You configure that in your router's web interface

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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By not setting static ips in clients 😛

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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But also for now, how do I get proxmox to work? I can't access it from any of my computers

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So if I disable the static ip on my laptop I'll be able to go 168.100?

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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How can you access proxmox at the moment?

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:51 AM

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raven forge How can you access proxmox at the moment?

I can't - it's just installed and all I'm seeing is a screen telling me to go to an 168.100 ip address to configure the server

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 10:51 AM

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That screen being a monitor plugged into the proxmox machine?

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:51 AM

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Yeah

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:52 AM

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set your laptop to a 192.168.100.x address, access proxmox again and change proxmox to whatever your lan actually is. then change the laptop to dhcp

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 10:52 AM

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Okay. Log in, run nano /etc/network/interfaces, change the ip there, CTRL+X, then ifreload -av. ip a should now show it.
You might also have to modify /etc/hosts the same way and also check /etc/resolv.conf for the correct name server(s).
Make sure no other device uses that ip

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:54 AM

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The x part of 168.1.x can be anything from 0 to 255 technically, right?

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 10:54 AM

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.1 would be the router and .255 is usually broadcast so don't use those 😄

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:54 AM

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yeah, just not the same as your laptop

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:54 AM

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Also I take it I have to change my gateway to 168.1.x too?

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:54 AM

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low notch yeah, just not the same as your laptop

Yeah, easy

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:54 AM

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raven forge `.1` would be the router and `.255` is usually broadcast so don't use those 😄

Good point!

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:55 AM

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quasi wedge Also I take it I have to change my gateway to 168.1.x too?

gateway is usually not needed in this emergency scenario as you access the device directly

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:55 AM

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So should I keep it as 100?

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:56 AM

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your lan is 192.168.1.x right?

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:56 AM

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Yeah

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:56 AM

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then make it 192.168.1.253 for example

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:56 AM

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The gateway?

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:56 AM

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who talked about the gateway?

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:57 AM

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The gateway has 192.168.100.x and I was just wondering if I should keep it as 100 or change it to 1 to be safe?

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:57 AM

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ah

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yes, change that also to 192.168.1.1

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I've seen ISP modems occupy .254 or even .138 but yes in most cases its .1

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 11:01 AM

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Ah ha, I can connect to proxmox!

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Thanks everyone!

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 11:04 AM

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kvm (proxmox) indeed wants to have some special treatment with its own static ip but just stay away from setting them on regular lan clients. use your routers config page to set entries which get handed out statically

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 11:06 AM

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Don't think it relates to kvm it's just that the network editor doesn't care about your dhcp entries and happily removes it from the config if you use it.
It also wants to be able to resolve the ip to the hostname or the reverse and a static ip that is also in /etc/hosts helps with that

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 11:07 AM

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eh, I've seen it struggle on regular debian in the same way

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 11:07 AM

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Ok, new issue - in the guide there's a post installation script but it's not running the bash command

A quick google says it might be because my dns is pointing to 127.0.0.1 for some reason - should I change this to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4?

low notch Jun 1, 2023, 11:07 AM

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you can

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 11:08 AM

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Or are there better options?

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 11:08 AM

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Your router is most likely able to resolve local hostnames for you so it's a good idea to use 192.168.100.1 or whatever the router's ip was.

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 11:09 AM

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raven forge Your router is most likely able to resolve local hostnames for you so it's a goo...

For the dns?

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 11:09 AM

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Yep

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 11:10 AM

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Cool!

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so now that i've got proxmox working through the web interface, i don't need the screen and whatnot plugged in anymore, do i?

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 11:24 AM

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Nope. You usually configure proxmox through SSH and the webinterface. The screen is useful for emergencies though

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 11:26 AM

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perfect - it's my main screen so would be nice to have it back now that the hard part is done in theory 😛

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so when i move my current HA instance to the new proxmox machine, will it keep all the settings like the static ip and everything that i've configured?

frank perch Jun 1, 2023, 11:42 AM

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you should make a static DHCP assignment for it in your router as well

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for your HA box

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 11:42 AM

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Depends how it was set up before but I'd make a snapshot/backup and try it out

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 12:16 PM

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sweet, migration to proxmox is a success!

teal axle Jun 1, 2023, 5:09 PM

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I have 8GB allocated for HA (in a VM) is it overkill? This is the output of free:

              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7.8G        1.8G        3.9G        4.9M        2.1G        6.1G
Swap:          2.6G           0        2.6G

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 5:12 PM

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A little bit but it doesn't hurt. Just do ballooning (if possible) and it'll be fine

teal axle Jun 1, 2023, 5:17 PM

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I want to keep as much ram free for my host OS. Thanks.

raven forge Jun 1, 2023, 5:19 PM

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I wouldn't go lower than 3g in your case as it looks like 2g~ are used

teal axle Jun 1, 2023, 5:23 PM

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I was thinking to put it to 4. I decided to leave it for now unless I actually need it for something else.

modest kite Jun 1, 2023, 6:24 PM

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So for my HA, do I update Core first or OS?

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What’s the preferred order?

humble mirage Jun 1, 2023, 6:26 PM

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Doesn't matter

frank perch Jun 1, 2023, 7:03 PM

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hmmm

empty bloom Jun 1, 2023, 7:28 PM

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frank perch hmmm

are you contemplating your existence because you asked the same question earlier?

frank perch Jun 1, 2023, 7:33 PM

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empty bloom are you contemplating your existence because you asked the same question earlier...

nah, just the response lol

wooden smelt Jun 1, 2023, 8:32 PM

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From a personal perspective, I prefer to update the operating system before updating Core.

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 PM

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hey guys, i moved my HA install yesterday from my windows machine to a new proxmox setup and made a backup and moved everything over, but i just realised most of my addons didn't copy over

i'm trying to reinstall them, but i've installed them, restarted HA and am trying to start them but they're not starting - there's just a red circle in the top right that when hovered over says "this addon is stopped", and there's none of the usual cpu usage or anything to go with it

with mosquitto for example, i try to start and nothing happens, and i check the logs and there's nothing there even saying it tried to start and failed - the logs only go until when HA started back up

does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this and get my addons going again?

frank perch Jun 1, 2023, 10:46 PM

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did you check the addon logs?

humble scaffoldBOT Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 PM

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@quasi wedge I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt

brittle sail Jun 1, 2023, 10:52 PM

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quasi wedge hey guys, i moved my HA install yesterday from my windows machine to a new proxm...

Restore from the backup again it sounds like maybe something went wrong

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It should be a 1:1 copy once you restore from backup

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:56 PM

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bah, i just got it all working last night 😦

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is there any way to not do a full restore?

frank perch Jun 1, 2023, 10:56 PM

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yes there is partial backups

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you can do a partial restore from a partial backup

brittle sail Jun 1, 2023, 10:57 PM

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quasi wedge is there any way to not do a full restore?

you can clone a VM in proxmox and play with another version with one offline if you want

frank perch Jun 1, 2023, 10:57 PM

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or you have to get manual

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:57 PM

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i can also do a partial restore from a full backup!

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and i can specially restore the addons

frank perch Jun 1, 2023, 10:57 PM

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yeah like I said you'd have to get manual

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 10:58 PM

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bah, i have bad luck with tech so have a feeling if i were to do a partial restore, i'll only find something else down the line that's not working that'll need a full restore anyway

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i'll just do the full restore

frank perch Jun 1, 2023, 11:00 PM

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every time I change something I name the backup before I make the change

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 11:14 PM

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how do i know when the restore is done

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i hit restore and all that happened is i lost connection to HA, but there's no progress or anything to see how it's going?

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do i just wait and keep trying homeassistant.local:8123 until it starts working?

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 11:36 PM

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ah, yes - eventually homeassistant.local:8123 loaded and it looks like the addons are all there - will test it out and see where things are at

brittle sail Jun 1, 2023, 11:37 PM

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quasi wedge ah, yes - eventually homeassistant.local:8123 loaded and it looks like the addon...

remember you need a full restart of the host VM after a successful restore from backup

quasi wedge Jun 1, 2023, 11:42 PM

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ah, good point - will restart from proxmox now

brittle sail Jun 1, 2023, 11:48 PM

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quasi wedge ah, good point - will restart from proxmox now

should do the same thing in haos when you choose reboot not restart

echo aspen Jun 2, 2023, 1:59 AM

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I used the homeassistant docker container to install HA on my NAS. Works great, except I apparently can't use add-ons this way (???), and I need to install Mosquitto Broker. It's instructions only provide install instructions via add-ons, so I'm a bit stuck at the moment (obviously I'm a HA noob). Halp?

frank perch Jun 2, 2023, 2:00 AM

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so install the container for it?

echo aspen Jun 2, 2023, 2:01 AM

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got it. So the answer is just run it separately. Can do.

frank perch Jun 2, 2023, 2:01 AM

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that's all an addon is really

echo aspen Jun 2, 2023, 2:02 AM

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first I should ask, am I correct in assuming that I cannot get Tasmota integration added without MQTT (which requires a broker)?

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I have some Tasmota devices that I'd like to manage via HA.

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or is that a better questions for #add-ons-archived ?

frank perch Jun 2, 2023, 2:03 AM

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yes im pretty sure you have to have MQTT working to have tasmoadmin

echo aspen Jun 2, 2023, 2:03 AM

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okiedoke. thanks! off to get the broker working.

echo aspen Jun 2, 2023, 2:26 AM

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got the broker installed which allowed me to get Tasmota integration added... I assume then that unless the individual tasmota devices are set up to talk to the broker, that HA won't detect them?

echo aspen Jun 2, 2023, 2:42 AM

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n/m yes that seems to be true. Got it working.

maiden mauve Jun 2, 2023, 4:28 AM

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how long does it usually take to restore a full backup?
I'm setting up my new mini pc (using proxmox), the VM has 50gb of storage, 4 cores, 8gb ram
I started restoring last night and went to sleep. Still hasn't finished 8 hours later

The backup is only 2.5gb

maiden mauve Jun 2, 2023, 7:16 AM

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So finally it worked, now I'm having trouble figuring out how to setup the new proxmox vm to have the same IP address the HA had on virtualbox
Any suggestions?

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 7:18 AM

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Update the static DHCP lease on your router?

maiden mauve Jun 2, 2023, 7:30 AM

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Yes indeed haha, been a long day

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I also changed it in HA itself under System>Network

pliant moat Jun 2, 2023, 11:43 AM

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Hi Quick question if you don't mind.

I run HAOS on a virtualbox vm. I have 2 external USB sticks for zigbee and z-wave respectively, which are presented from debian through to the vm

I plan to move the VM to new, more reliable hardware - still as a debian-based virtualbox VM.

What mess am I expecting to make of my connections to my external zigbee and z-wave networks? Should I just be able to represent them to the VM and expect everything to work? Or am I looking at a nightmare scenario where nothing works and I have to start from scratch?

Thanks

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 11:46 AM

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None, if you were sensible and used the /dev/serial/by-id/ paths thhen everything will just work

sterile pelican Jun 2, 2023, 12:12 PM

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Context:
Hey. I previously had HA setup as a dock on raspberry pi and functioning as intended. While securing I made more limitations for access while attempting to improve safety of my system. It did work all good for a while, but after that my internet setup was changed (modem removed) and I lost any means to connect to it anymore. I let it be for few months, but now I wanted to gain access again. After modifying files to remove that blocking, I managed to login into system. For some reason supervisor wasn't enabled while observer reported that everything was okay. This prevent me from using any add-ons, updating to newer version etc. either by UI or cli commands. All attempts to repair, check and update just failed.
I'm not sure what was wrong, but I got fe. "/supervisor/options return code 403" errors etc. into log. I took backup and decided to reinstall latest version and intended to restore my backup. I downloaded new ocker version, set it up on docker and launched it off. First configuration window didn't offer me a option to restoe backup as seen on on some guides, so I setup some temporary user.

Used installation method https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi#install-home-assistant-container - update tab

Problem:
I still can't access supervisor or addons. Attempting to enable supervisor from integrations guides to modify configuration.yaml which would require add-ons (that option doesn't exist anymore in settings) and observer site claims "Supported: Unsupported".

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`Logger: aiohttp.server
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/aiohttp/web_protocol.py:403
First occurred: 1:10:02 PM (7155 occurrences)
Last logged: 3:18:23 PM

Error handling request
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/aiohttp/web_protocol.py", line 332, in data_received
messages, upgraded, tail = self._request_parser.feed_data(data)
File "aiohttp/_http_parser.pyx", line 551, in aiohttp._http_parser.HttpParser.feed_data
aiohttp.http_exceptions.BadStatusLine: 400, message="Bad status line 'Invalid method encountered'"`

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 12:24 PM

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If you want the Supervisor and add-ons you needed to use Home Assistant OS

sterile pelican Jun 2, 2023, 12:25 PM

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That doesn't make sense. Why it would suddenly start requiring that OS?

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 12:26 PM

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The only other option is Supervised, which is a clusterfuck and to be avoided

sterile pelican Jun 2, 2023, 12:26 PM

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I had HA version from march and I originally set it up at the end of last year

frank perch Jun 2, 2023, 12:26 PM

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because HAOS is the only one that supports addons, otherwise you have to do it yourself

sterile pelican Jun 2, 2023, 12:27 PM

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And thne it suddenly was butchered?

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 12:27 PM

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This is how it's been for years

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Container has never had the Supervisor or add-ons

leaden willow Jun 2, 2023, 12:27 PM

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any ideas of any way i can get IKEA Dirigera hub working with home assistant?

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 12:28 PM

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leaden willow any ideas of any way i can get IKEA Dirigera hub working with home assistant?

That'd be #integrations-archived

leaden willow Jun 2, 2023, 12:28 PM

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thanks

sterile pelican Jun 2, 2023, 12:35 PM

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I can tell that I did have it running in on container and it stopped working at some point.

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 12:36 PM

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HAOS uses Docker

sterile pelican Jun 2, 2023, 12:41 PM

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Alright, either way. It still doesn't work and I didn't reinstall os.

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So why it behaves like this?

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 12:42 PM

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If you want add-ons you HAVE TO USE HAOS

sterile pelican Jun 2, 2023, 12:42 PM

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sterile pelican I had HA version from march and I originally set it up at the end of last year

based on what has been said. I had HAOS since the start.

frank perch Jun 2, 2023, 12:48 PM

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if you manually downloaded a new docker version you ain't using HAOS

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and the link you said you followed and posted was to a container install

wary socket Jun 2, 2023, 1:04 PM

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has anyone experienced getting error "400: bad request" when trying to proxy through nginx?
directip:8123 works fine, even domain:8123 works fine (port forwarded), but trying to use nginx so I dont have to enter the port and make ha.domain proxy to directip:8123 and I get 400: bad request

note, Im using the same nginx configuration for other apps on other ports and it works fine

brittle sail Jun 2, 2023, 1:06 PM

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wary socket has anyone experienced getting error "400: bad request" when trying to proxy thr...

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/http#trusted_proxies

wary socket Jun 2, 2023, 1:06 PM

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thanks so much ❤️

cobalt pulsar Jun 2, 2023, 3:07 PM

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So I'm still working through my overall setup and considering moving to the Docker installation, rather than Core.

I found this video that helped explain a great deal about how to use with the Docker installation and still access and use things that are otherwise in the HACS (and more, actually): https://youtu.be/DV_OD4OPKno.
However, while I have Docker installed on my linux HA dedicated laptop now, I'm not very fluid in how it works yet.

Does anyone know if I can install Docker Containers for things like Node Red for example and still make them work with HA Core?

Or if I'm going to install the NodeRed Container, do I have to install HA in a docker to make them work together?

I'm more interested in the general question of whether I need to migrate from Core to Docker, not specifics of NodeRed in particular... Anyone know how that works?

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 3:08 PM

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Does anyone know if I can install Docker Containers for things like Node Red for example and still make them work with HA Core?
Yes, you can

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Migrating from a venv (pure Core) install to Docker is normally pretty trivial. You'll have to update any paths that refer to the current on disk location of files/folders to how they'll appear inside the container, and then you can simply start it with your existing config folder (https://blog.ceard.tech/2020/10/ha-venv-to-docker)

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If you currently do SSL directly in HA then you'll have to map a volume for the SSL certificates, or save yourself pain and use Traefik as a proxy since it can handle SSL for you

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I'd 100% recommend Traefik

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(that's only partly because I use it myself)

cobalt pulsar Jun 2, 2023, 3:12 PM

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humble mirage (that's only partly because I use it myself)

lol. Got it. A the moment, I'm not accessing it remotely - onyl from within my own network, so I haven't moved up to SSL yet. I'm likely to going to put up PfSense before I do that - so I thought I could handle that when I do the pfsense part -but I will look into Traefik in case I have that wrong.

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 3:13 PM

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You can handle it then - Traefik is awesome since it's tightly integrated with Docker

cobalt pulsar Jun 2, 2023, 3:13 PM

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humble mirage Migrating from a venv (pure Core) install to Docker is normally pretty trivial. ...

And I do have it running in a .venv at the moment - so looks pretty straight forward to move it up

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 3:13 PM

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Oh, and use Docker Compose - don't use docker run

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 3:13 PM

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cobalt pulsar And I do have it running in a .venv at the moment - so looks pretty straight for...

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A compose file gives you YAML you can back up, and makes it much easier to modify containers

cobalt pulsar Jun 2, 2023, 3:14 PM

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I didn't even know about Docker Run yet... I only know about compose 😉

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 3:14 PM

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Good... you'll save yourself pain

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I'll also suggest you look at Dozzle for an easy way of seeing your container logs

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If you set up healthchecks for your containers then Container Mon is good for alerting you about unhealthy containers

quick wagon Jun 2, 2023, 5:27 PM

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how can I install HA on a hikvision camera server?

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 5:37 PM

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quick wagon how can I install HA on a hikvision camera server?

Does that run Linux and support running Docker images?

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(or support running VMs)

quick wagon Jun 2, 2023, 5:39 PM

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tbh idk since it's not for me, I'm asking on behalf a friend who has that server and want to start using HA

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but i'll see

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 5:40 PM

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Well... you need to find out these kind of things so we can help you repeat what we tell you 😛

grand pivot Jun 2, 2023, 5:40 PM

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this has all the makings of a disaster

quick wagon Jun 2, 2023, 5:41 PM

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so atleast it should be linux and not their propraitory OS

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 5:43 PM

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To run HA the device needs to be (ideally Intel/AMD) 64 bit and either support virtual machines or run Linux and Docker

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The odds for yourr friend are not good

quick wagon Jun 2, 2023, 5:45 PM

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humble mirage To run HA the device needs to be (ideally Intel/AMD) 64 bit and either support v...

okay then, thanks a lot that’s what I needed to know

torpid herald Jun 2, 2023, 7:50 PM

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Does the hass container really need to run privileged?

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 7:50 PM

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Well, yes, but no, but officially yes

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Without it you have to pass devices yourself, and get it right. Some people struggle with that

torpid herald Jun 2, 2023, 7:52 PM

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same story with host networking?

raven forge Jun 2, 2023, 7:54 PM

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It's for *cast things and the like afaik

grand pivot Jun 2, 2023, 7:55 PM

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and discovery

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 8:04 PM

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Not using host networking breaks any integration using mDNS/SSDP/broadcasts/etc

torpid herald Jun 2, 2023, 8:18 PM

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I assume, unless whatever it's trying to talk to is on the same Docker network... I wonder if it's possible to put a host interface on that network... yes, I'm learning Docker on the fly here

humble mirage Jun 2, 2023, 8:26 PM

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Sure, but mDNS etc are used for talking to other things on your network, like Chromecast/Google Home devices, or Sonos, or ...

torpid herald Jun 2, 2023, 9:11 PM

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Thus the thought of putting a host interface on the network

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Actually it sounds like macvlan was tailor-made for this purpose

frank perch Jun 2, 2023, 9:36 PM

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yeah but in bridge mode

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not trunk

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😉

brittle sail Jun 2, 2023, 10:45 PM

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@languid bough when installing haos vm via your script is there anything special that needs to be done for reliable usb passthru? (for a zigbee stick for example)

woven cove Jun 2, 2023, 10:51 PM

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sorry if this is wrong room on the server.. I am trying to install home kit infused dashboard remotely. I need to get three folders onto that network .. but obviously I am not locally connected so i cant go through the /config folder on file explorer on my comptuer... and file editor from hacs does not let me upload folders .. only one file at a time. Any suggestions ?

frank perch Jun 2, 2023, 11:41 PM

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Ftp addon would help

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To upload all the files

woven cove Jun 3, 2023, 12:56 AM

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frank perch To upload all the files

thank you

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I was able to get all the HACS downloads done.. just been struggling on getting the Homekit infused folders onto the HA network

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the ftp system seems to be a little above my knowledge base unfortunately .. kind of greek to me lol

sterile pelican Jun 3, 2023, 7:02 AM

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Now I recall why I didn't really want to reinstall this. Used balena etcher and latest image (haos_rpi2-10.1.img.xz). Added 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as DNS options to get past first cli error. After that I left this overnight to wait on "(this can take up to 20 minutes)". Even after restart it still gives these errors. Home assistant observer doesn't show any problems, ha su repair doesn't make a difference, and ha core rebuild command gives error.

INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'ResolutionFixup.run_autofix' blocked from execution, system is not running - CoreState.SETUP
ERROR (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi2-homeassistant:2023.5.4: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.42/images/create?tag=2023.5.4&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi2-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm%2Fv6: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": context deadline exceeded (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
INFO (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi2-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi2-homeassistant:2023.5.4
23-06-03 09:58:08 INFO (SyncWorker_0)
INFO (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi2-homeassistant with tag 2023.5.4.
INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'MountManager.reload' blocked from execution, mounting not supported on system

sterile pelican Jun 3, 2023, 8:21 AM

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More extensive list of errors https://pastebin.com/DZ4T8bbP

frank perch Jun 3, 2023, 11:49 AM

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those are DNS errors

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that's unfortunately not HA

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also you're running on the slowest hardware supported

low notch Jun 3, 2023, 12:04 PM

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Dns/gateway issues yes

sonic wharf Jun 3, 2023, 12:09 PM

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Hi. After an update a few days ago (done through the Android app) my HomeAssistant will not boot. HA runs as a VM. The boot fails when trying to find a partition labelled hassos-data. lsblk tells me there is no partition labelled hassos-data, only partitions labelled hassos-boot, hassos-overlay & hassos-data-old. How can I recover my system?

storm sluice Jun 3, 2023, 1:07 PM

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reimage, restore backup?

sonic wharf Jun 3, 2023, 1:23 PM

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Is there documentation for getting the backup off, I assume, the hassos-data-old partition and imported into a new install?

placid sage Jun 3, 2023, 1:37 PM

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Has anyone tried to install and run the home assistant server on an ipad? If it run run on a raspberry pi, I guess and ipad from 2020/21 will also have sufficient hardware required to run the same. I have such an ipad lying around and would like to use it for the same purpose. I can keep the ipad plugged in for continued battery charging and running the server. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

low notch Jun 3, 2023, 1:44 PM

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good luck

brittle sail Jun 3, 2023, 1:49 PM

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What’s a computer - apple

pliant pivot Jun 3, 2023, 2:34 PM

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placid sage Has anyone tried to install and run the home assistant server on an ipad? If it ...

have fun porting 😂

low notch Jun 3, 2023, 2:41 PM

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you don't even need to port. fun

hybrid patrol Jun 3, 2023, 8:11 PM

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I think my sd card I had my HA on got corrupted. Will the raspi imager software fix it if I flash the OS again ?

brittle sail Jun 3, 2023, 8:16 PM

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hybrid patrol I think my sd card I had my HA on got corrupted. Will the raspi imager software ...

nope

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once it's corrupted you can reflash but most likely the microSD card is failing at this point

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even if it does work you should take backups and be weary about trusting it from failing again soon

acoustic thistle Jun 4, 2023, 12:52 AM

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placid sage Has anyone tried to install and run the home assistant server on an ipad? If it ...

iPads don't so easily run custom software. If you have a Mac, you can try to compile the source in Xcode, and even if you manage to do that, you'd have to recompile and recopy every 7 days unless you have an active Apple Development account.

cinder marsh Jun 4, 2023, 1:04 AM

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an exciting prospect, running HA on an ipad over wifi 🙂

low notch Jun 4, 2023, 3:59 AM

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Lol, homeassistant.ipk

acoustic thistle Jun 4, 2023, 5:40 AM

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Yeah, obviously not a good choice.

frank perch Jun 4, 2023, 8:58 AM

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that ain't even remotely interesting to me LOL

hybrid patrol Jun 4, 2023, 2:45 PM

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brittle sail even if it does work you should take backups and be weary about trusting it from...

Flashed it again and it seems to be fine now, maybe it wasn’t badly corrupted or something or maybe it wasn’t corrupted at all idek

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Any software I could use to check the health of it does anybody know ?

hybrid patrol Jun 4, 2023, 2:49 PM

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placid sage Has anyone tried to install and run the home assistant server on an ipad? If it ...

Even if you port it, I can’t imagine iOS playing nicely with its sandboxing, it would probably have to be jailbroken to have a chance at all really