installation-archived

[dry compass]

can you use the ip i message u personally?

[humble mirage]

https://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ is how you can test yourself

[dry compass]

IDK what to do now, I am so pissed by my isp

[manic bane]

I forgot that won't work for me because I block pretty much every country for my home network lol

[manic bane]

It could also be how you are port forwarding

In your router, does it show the same public IP as what going to https://whatismyipaddress.com/ shows?

[dry compass]

no

it shows something 10.

and it is a pppoe connection

10.42.xxx.xx

[humble mirage]

That's the WAN IP of your router?

[dry compass]

and this refreshes every restart

Ill give you an img wait

[humble mirage]

Because you've told us two very different things now

[manic bane]

That sounds like you're behind some sort of CGNAT or you have another router

(Well maybe not CGNAT but a NAT of sorts)

10.42.xxx.xxx is a private space IP, it is not internet routable

[dry compass]

https://ibb.co/ns5SJ1N

[humble mirage]

RFC1918

Right, your WAN IP is RFC1918 and can't be reached from the Internet

You need something like Cloudflare Tunnels, the Nabu Casa Cloud service, or to build your own relay host in the cloud

[dry compass]

to build your own relay host in the cloud?

can this be done?

[manic bane]

Its no different than nabu casa or cloudflare, it will cost money to host somewhere usually

[humble mirage]

Yes, I already linked to how to

Nah, you can do it for free

[manic bane]

Also your ISP lied to you then since you are behind CGNAT

[manic bane]

Oh?

Interesting

[humble mirage]

<#installation-archived message>

[manic bane]

I'm used to cloud = pay lol

[dry compass]

cloudfare requires domain to buy

[humble mirage]

It just requires some skill

[manic bane]

Domains are cheap

[humble mirage]

You can get free domains

You can get free hosting

Combine the two and you're sorted

Hell, you can use a Dynamic DNS service this way too

[dry compass]

we can but subdomains on cloudfare

[humble mirage]

You can get a free domain and use it there too

I do

[manic bane]

@dry compass just to confirm, your internet currently goes from wall input (so from ISP/ street infrastructure) -> This exact TP Link Archer C80 directly?

[humble mirage]

https://www.freenom.com/

[dry compass]

no there is a white box in between

which input is a yellow wire

[manic bane]

What is this white box

Does it have a interface

Does it work as a router

[dry compass]

different from normat cat wire

[manic bane]

That yellow wire is probably a telephone cable

[dry compass]

this doesnt work

[manic bane]

What do you mean it 'doesn't work'

[humble mirage]

Worked for me a couple of weeks ago

IMPORTANT NOTICE: Because of technical issues the Freenom application for new registrations is temporarily out-of-order.

So ... find another route

[dry compass]

thie domains are no more there

[humble mirage]

There's no shortage of free options here

Google that shit

[dry compass]

tried this 1 month ago

[manic bane]

For us to help you, you need to help us, be very clear about everything
Like the white box that sits between the internet and your router, that may be working as a router itself too, or it might just be a modem

Who knows

[manic bane]

Or pay, because having a domain is neat, and can do a lot with it

[humble mirage]

Image would help

[dry compass]

i am searching an img for it

[humble mirage]

Take a picture with your phone?

[humble mirage]

That'd be why I have more than one domain 😄

[manic bane]

I have 4, they're addictive

[dry compass]

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=REOar2K6&id=1291E0DFA424BC4ACAE41005924B58BD8AE28F25&thid=OIP.REOar2K665Be673qmif2BAHaGH&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fsuraxak.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F08%2FS-EPON-1000-ONU-3_1.jpg&exph=435&expw=527&q=s-xpon-1000&simid=608001729858065213&FORM=IRPRST&ck=A3E5E4EFF0409DD8843AB6D5D9BE2EE9&selectedIndex=1

something like this it is

[manic bane]

Not getting my last name as a .com though, holy price

[manic bane]

Why couldn't you take a photo of it with your phone

Or just read out the model number underneath it

[dry compass]

ill do that

gimme a sec

[humble mirage]

If it's a PON then it's just a fibre converter

[manic bane]

If its exactly that box, then its a fibre box. Does nothing except convert fibre to ethernet

AKA your ISP lied and you have CGNAT

[humble mirage]

Well, technically they're not wrong... it's not actually CGNAT - just functionally the same

[dry compass]

https://ibb.co/1RxdbZx with username and pass (https://ibb.co/B3y90jR)
box with a wire out from (https://ibb.co/fqxqqdC)
https://ibb.co/m6CLfRY

[manic bane]

I call anything done by the carrier to be CGNAT, purely because its Carrier Grade lol
But yeah thats true

[dry compass]

here you go

now it's more clear?

[humble mirage]

It's just a fibre converter, you're not going to get working remote access directly to your home IP

[manic bane]

It has a IP address on it though, sure its not doing something funky?

[dry compass]

should I check it?

insert a direct lan and see?

[dry compass]

so this means?

[dry compass]

something to do with this? https://ibb.co/3sqHmG3

[manic bane]

No

Don't just enable stuff without knowing what it is

[humble mirage]

The IP will be for local config, many devices support that kind of thing

Actually... WTF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0JJqCnFi2A

Looks like it's a PON that's also a router

[dry compass]

which pc lan ip is he talking about the local one?

192.168.x.x?

[humble mirage]

I didn't watch the whole thing, no idea

That may not even apply to you, and screwing with it may break your Internet connection

[dry compass]

hmm

[humble mirage]

There's an easy enough test... do a traceroute and see if it shows up

[dry compass]

to my ?

[humble mirage]

To something on the Internet

[dry compass]

google,com?

[humble mirage]

Sure

[dry compass]

the 1st one is 192.168.0.1

2nd one is 205.254.xxx.xx

[humble mirage]

Is your router 192.168.0.1?

[dry compass]

no

its 1.1

[humble mirage]

And that doesn't show up in the traceroute?

[dry compass]

no

[humble mirage]

[dry compass]

wait

wait

wait

wait

I open cmd

type ipconfig

[humble mirage]

wait 🔁

[dry compass]

default gateway is 192.168.0.1

[humble mirage]

Rather than spamming the channel, just send it once

[dry compass]

but

the ip on the white box

is 192.168.1.1

[humble mirage]

Right, that's a sticker you know

So, probably it's behaving as a normal PON

[dry compass]

Where is the problem then?

ahhh

I am done

[humble mirage]

Well, the problem is that your ISP doesn't give you a public IP

The solution is already covered above

[dry compass]

this?

[manic bane]

Yes

[humble mirage]

Or buy either service I mentioned

[raven forge]

If you want something very simple you can also use Tailscale. Doesn't work for everything though. I didn't catch the goals

[manic bane]

A method to remotely access HA behind CGNAT

To summarise

[dry compass]

I have that but cant use it with aws

[ancient adder]

Is there any yt video about installing home assistant in MacBook Air 2017?

Or any guide?

[humble mirage]

What chipset is in that Mac? Intel or Apple's own?

If it's Intel then you can use VirtualBox/VMWare and follow the standard guides for VBox/VMWare

[ancient adder]

Intel

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative

Follow the VBox instructions then

[ancient adder]

Do I have to do VirtualBox
KVM (virt-manager)
KVM (virt-install)?

All 3?

[humble mirage]

VirtualBox

As I've said a few times 😛

[ancient adder]

Sorry I didn’t see that😂

[humble mirage]

Those are all incompatible alternatives

[ancient adder]

Ok

[humble mirage]

MacBook Air 2017

[ancient adder]

Yes

[humble mirage]

Somebody else replied, and deleted their post...

[ancient adder]

Oh

[rose quail]

HA & Doorbird

[placid sage]

hello i messed up my network config and now can not access the machine whatever the way

[humble mirage]

Do you have a keyboard and monitor you can connect?

[placid sage]

yes i m connected its a vm onmy mac

so i see the machine but i have corrupted the network file with duckdns...

[humble mirage]

The network file?

Setting up DuckDNS shouldn't touch any networking

[placid sage]

it has as i cant connect locally anymore

[humble mirage]

Did you by any chance also set up SSL?

[placid sage]

i have an ha> prompt

[humble mirage]

Did you by any chance also set up SSL?

[placid sage]

not sure

[humble mirage]

Did you edit configuration.yaml to add lines about ssl

[placid sage]

no i dont

[humble mirage]

Hmmm.... then what did you do?

[placid sage]

a config mess i think

a of course i have no backup

so i can not redo everything

[humble mirage]

It's really hard to help you fix it if you don't remember what you did

Somebody else will have to help as I'm all out

[placid sage]

when i log with the local ip it says

just succeed with ip:8123

but need to fix my config

i have this message "You have configured an HTTPS certificate in Home Assistant. This means that your internal URL needs to be set to a domain covered by the certficate"

[humble mirage]

Ahh... so you did set up SSL

[placid sage]

how to remove that?

not sure i want it

#http for external access
#http:

ssl_certificate: /ssl/fullchain.pem

ssl_key: /ssl/privkey.pem#http for external access

#http:

ssl_certificate: /ssl/fullchain.pem

ssl_key: /ssl/privkey.pem

just keep the tag to disable ?

[humble mirage]

Yes, a line with # at the start is commented out - disabled

[placid sage]

so all good

what happen if i enable ssl?

[humble mirage]

Then you have to use https:// to connect, even if you're using the LAN IP

[placid sage]

not sure i want that

what do you think?

[humble mirage]

I use a proxy server for SSL

[placid sage]

how to set this up?

[humble mirage]

Check the instructions for the NGINX Proxy Manager (NPM) #add-ons-archived

[placid sage]

ok will look at this later

thanks alot for the support

[plucky raptor]

Hi I'm trying to setup HA on a raspberry pi 3 using HAOS... but there seems to be an issue with the homeassistant docker container. the frontend wont load and the logs for the container seems to have some issues with python code: https://pastebin.com/WetS9usa

[low notch]

Are you setting that up with a backup?

Seems a migration fails

[plucky raptor]

I have just done the basic thing: use balena etcher to create the memory stick, plug the sucker in and then i get 404: not found in browser.

hmmm see now recomended size is 32 GB... is there an absolute minimum size? Could it be that i'm testing with a 8 GB card?

[humble mirage]

You can get away with 16 GB, in a pinch

At least until you run out of space and it all goes horribly wrong

[plucky raptor]

Could my current problems be due to a too small memory card?
I attempted to download a new docker image for HA to try to resolve the issue and that worked, so its not filled to the brim

[humble mirage]

Yes, it could be

It could also be a failing SD card

[brisk willow]

There's an undervolt warning in the logs too

[humble mirage]

Well, that's not gonna be helping then... nice side order of file system corruption

That'd likely explain the ValueError: source code string cannot contain null bytes

[plucky raptor]

yeah I'm running it on a 5V/2.4A adapter.. so its a bit underspec:ed

[humble mirage]

It's clearly not capable of sustaining that

If it was, 0.1A wouldn't matter

[plucky raptor]

Ok thanks for you help - I'll give it a new try with a proper memory card and proper power adapter 🙂

[autumn grove]

Hi! I'm just starting a Home Assistant OS install on an old laptop. So far I've been testing it on a docker install. Can I move my configuration and data to a fresh Home Assistant OS install?

[humble mirage]

Yes

Take a backup on the first install, restore it on the new one

[autumn grove]

Thank you! Can I load it from an USB stick?

[humble mirage]

Not as far as I know

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#restoring-a-backup-on-a-new-install

That only lists uploading (small backups) or using Samba (any size)

[autumn grove]

oh, that's even nicer. Great ^_^

[unique briar]

What is the best way to install Home Assistant OS into a Proxmox VM?

[raven forge]

You import the disk image via the qm command

[unique briar]

I was just asking for the best way... It's kind of strange that we cannot choose the OS under the HA or the installation is not done with some sort of installer.
Anyone knows the reason why HA is shared like it is today?

[brittle sail]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative

there's a qcow2 image provided and labeled kvm/proxmox

[unique briar]

Thanks. I know the existence of this, not sure if it was the best method and also, wondering why HA has chosen this method of "deploy" instead of having (for example) a minor installation of your OS of choice and then a installer over it

[raven forge]

I don't know why but you should use docker if you want this. There's also supervised but I wouldn't use it

[fair spindle]

Yes, if you want more control than HAOS, use Container. Other than no add-ons (which isn't much of a loss since you can just run whatever other containers you want alongside it anyway) it's pretty much equivalent but you control the underlying OS more

[copper steppe]

@unique briar if you want low-fuss, use the tteck scripts to install HAOS. https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/

But as others say, you can DIY it on top of linux without too much hassle

[steep heath]

i went with this option

[humble mirage]

Because the point of HAOS is to be an appliance like experience. It reduces the things that people can fuck up.

[dry compass]

Hey @humble mirage I bought a domain, (was really pissed and then had to on your command). Now I was setting up cloudflare, how much time does it take to verify the nameserver, has been 4 hours waiting.

[humble mirage]

[dry compass]

And BTW your blog looks amazing 👍

[humble mirage]

I've got a limited sample set to test with, but tens of minutes to a few hours seems normal

[dry compass]

oh

ok

[humble mirage]

Double check that you do have them configured correctly, and that a WhoIs lookup shows them

[dry compass]

it shows them correctly

[dry compass]

working

[low notch]

You can manually trigger a single refresh in the cf dashboard

This usually makes it take a few minutes for me

[robust quarry]

Hello! I have a Home Assistant Supervised running on Debian. After about 11-12 months of use I have been told here that I should migrate to a standard Home Assistant OS. By some luck I have access to a Raspberry Pi4 identical to the Raspberry Pi4 on which my Supervised version is running. SO I decided to give it a try, I installed HA-OS, then on the first welcome screen, I selected to restore from a backup, I took the most recent one I had created by Home Assistant Google Drive Backup, it is 7.4GB. It has been restoring for almost 5 hours.... Is it normal? Is it because I have a very big snapshot?

[humble mirage]

For that big a snapshot you may need to do basic onboarding first and then use the Samba add-on to upload it

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#restoring-a-backup-on-a-new-install

[robust quarry]

I am using a USB boot system on a M.2 SSD enclosure connected via USB3. Uploading the backup was fast. I am just curious if this restoration will work with patience or not.

[humble mirage]

I'm unsure, but somebody else will know

[robust quarry]

Ok, I'll just wait if anyone has knowledge on this. I'll update you if I can see the end of it while I wait

[humble mirage]

No need to update me 😉

[robust quarry]

I meant update the community 😉

[humble scaffold]

@robust quarry When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[rapid relic]

I have a problem installing HAOS on an intel nuc.
I booted in Ubuntu from an USB Stick, Installed Balena Etcher, etched the Generic x86-64 image to the nvme (internal hard drive) - got a warning (care, this is your harddrive!) and proceeded.

Now i reboot and ... there is still no boot option for the HAOS. So i used efibootmgr --create --disk /dev/<drivename> --part 1 --label "HAOS"
--loader '\EFI\BOOT\bootx64.efi'

And still no bootable partition!

UEFI activated, Secure boot deactivated.

The boot list is empty, only showing LAN. WHen I pug in my USB Stick with Ubuntu, it is recognized.

[rapid relic]

Forgot to mention:
Home Assistant Operating System 9.5
Intel NUC 5I3RYH MP / Core i3.

[sweet quiver]

Someone running HA in Docker on a pi and secured HA with lets encrypt or something similar

[humble mirage]

Lots of people have

[final cradle]

Is this the right place for networking/auth questions? I couldn't find any other topics that looked relevant, but I'm having issues with trusted_networks

[humble mirage]

That'd be more #integrations-archived or #general-archived

[thin kindle]

I've been using Docker Compose to run HA on my Raspberry Pi. I upgraded my raspberry pi OS. I took a backup ahead of time but unclear the best way to restore the backup... the "restore from backup" option doesn't appear on the onboarding / create account screen when I run via docker compose.

[brisk willow]

You won't see that option; you'll want to unarchive the backup and copy the files over manually

[thin kindle]

so extract the backup and overwrite stuff from the backup's data folder?

[humble mirage]

IMO you're better off doing backups external to HA

[humble mirage]

Well, extract all the stuff in it to your destination

[thin kindle]

I took 2 backups before wiping my pi: a copy of the whole pi user directory, and I grabbed a copy of a HA-generated backup

when extracting the HA-generated backup it has a "data" folder with automations.yaml etc, I assume I should just overwrite the new-install's same set of files?

[humble mirage]

I'm just creating and inspecting one

TL/DR: Yes

[thin kindle]

thanks

[fair mauve]

I installed home assistant using an image. Is it possible to install home assistant on top of an existing Ubuntu install

[humble mirage]

Yes

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux

Take your pick from Container, or ... Container really

Do see https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/#compare-installation-methods to understand the differences, and ignore both Core and Supervised

[fair mauve]

Thanks

[granite girder]

Hi I m configuring homeassistant unable to add my location. Its asking for coordinates

any suggestion?

[humble mirage]

Enter valid coordinates?

[granite girder]

sorry typed in hurry - while updating the general settings - it says the followinng - Location can be changed in zone settings
In the zone, i have to add a new zone.. so i kind off have 2 homes in the setting.. one point to correct and other default to Amsterdam. how do i change the default one?

[humble mirage]

Two choices, drag it to your chosen location, or use the homeassistant.set_location service in -> Services

[rapid relic]

why was my question ignored?

[lone fiber]

32bit vs 64bit. Pros and cons of the builds? Originally installed the 64bit OS on my rpi4, but there are addons that must have been compiled only for the 32bit OS. Any real downside to backing up, reinstalling, and restoring?

Scratch that. I have it backwards. I installed the 32bit OS. Yeah. I'm gonna remedy that.

[granite girder]

thank you i got it updated from the services.

i have 50+ Feit switches and dimmers, nest, ring they are not auto detected. Is there a manual way to add them? I dont want to pay for any monthly or yearly subscriptions

[humble mirage]

Nest and Ring have integrations - search the integrations docs

Feit I think uses Tuya

If it does, something like https://github.com/make-all/tuya-local can give you local access rather than being cloud reliant

[granite girder]

Nest is asking for $5 - https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/nest/

[humble mirage]

Yup... that's Google for you

AFAIK it's a one off though

[granite girder]

for alexa too its another subscription

[humble mirage]

Or you can set it up for free

[granite girder]

How do i set that up for free?

Sorry if i missed this

[crude inlet]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations#search/Alexa

Smart home skill

[granite girder]

Thank you!

Any thoughts on how to upload the 3d Map for home on Home Assistant

[humble mirage]

That'd be something you'd do in the #frontend-archived

Either using https://www.home-assistant.io/dashboards/picture-elements or https://github.com/ExperienceLovelace/ha-floorplan

[robust quarry]

Hello everyone, my 7.4GB backup and restore is still going on after fresh HA-OS install. I guess I can cancel it and look for another solution....

[robust quarry]

When migrating from a HA Supervised to HA-OS, are there folders we should not restore?

[grand pivot]

You should make a backup and restore it

[robust quarry]

This is what I did, but I tried restoring from first screen before creating an account and let the restore process run for 22 hours. I just restart, created an account, and started restore from the BackUp page in settings.

[manic bane]

Try logging in with a new browser/ in private mode/ etc after restoring. It may be caching the old install

[humble scaffold]

@rapid arrow I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[frail mica]

Hey there, I'm reading a bit more about the HA CLI and I'm wondering how accessible it is to the outside world by default (assuming you've made the webUI available to you from outside your home, for instance with some duckdns configuration or whatever)

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/hassos-console-password/286654/25 I share some of the worries explained already in this thread

Is it like, listening on a specific port eg. à la ssh and you're supposed to be "safe" by default because your network won't route traffic to the CLI unless configured that way?

Considering it's some direct root access to some Linux hardware, assuming I had a security breach on the same network my HA installation is, wouldn't that make the installation a super trivial rebound box for an outsider attacker, to pivot to other machines?

[manic bane]

If you're running HAOS then the cli isn't enabled by default over SSH
If you use an add on then you should use a key not password too but that won't give the root CLI

[frail mica]

Alright, thanks for the clarification

[manic bane]

There's always a chance for stuff to be breached, but the cli is not accessible without physical access (as the first or second reply says) by default (and if you're activating that then you know it's port 22222 and you should be using key based auth)

[candid latch]

Hello everyone, I am currently trying to install the Home Assistant on a Raspberry according to the instructions.
The following error occurs during the installation of the Core application:
-->
(homeassistant) homeassistant@nextcloudpi:/srv/homeassistant $ pip3 install homeassistant==2023.2.4
Looking in indexes: https://pypi.org/simple, https://www.piwheels.org/simple
ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement homeassistant==2023.2.4
ERROR: No matching distribution found for homeassistant==2023.2.4
<--
What am I doing wrong?

Many greetings
Georg

[humble mirage]

Your version of Python is too old

Use Docker

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#docker-compose

https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/debian/#install-using-the-convenience-script

The Core docs are quite clear that you need Python 3.10, which you don't have

[candid latch]

I have installed Python 3.1 as described in the instructions.

[humble mirage]

Then the venv wasn't built with it

python --version

[candid latch]

Python 3.9.2

[humble mirage]

There you go

[candid latch]

I have done these:
python3 -m venv .
source bin/activate

[humble mirage]

And python3 is Python 3.9

python3.10 is what you needed there

Or to use Docker

If you stick with Core you'll be doing this for Python 3.11 next December

[candid latch]

There are

there is Python 3.1 for Raspberry 3B

[humble mirage]

3.11, not 3.1

[candid latch]

I have run:
sudo apt-get install -y python3 python3-dev python3-venv python3-pip bluez libffi-dev libssl-dev libjpeg-dev zlib1g-dev autoconf build-essential libopenjp2-7 libtiff5 libturbojpeg0-dev tzdata
and after this I have Pyhton 3.9?!

[humble mirage]

What makes you think that you should get 3.10?

Debian Bullseye (current stable) ships with 3.9

[candid latch]

Ahh OK and python3-dev is not 3.10?

[humble mirage]

No

Use Docker 😉

[robust quarry]

Hello everyone, my 7.4GB backup and restore did not work starting it from the BackUp-&-Restore page in the settings. I start to think there is no possible migration from HA-Supervised to HA-OS. If anyone has an idea how I can deal with it, I'm listening. Maybe some folders should not be selected when HA asks which folder I should restore?

[candid latch]

OK, I use Docker 😦 🙂

[humble mirage]

python3-dev is the development package for python3

It gives you headers (and stuff), that's what -dev packages are for

[candid latch]

So with an existing installation I will never get on Python 3.10 (in the moment), right?

[humble mirage]

Not without build it from source (eg using pyenv)

That's fine, if you're comfortable doing that, but it doesn't sound like you've got enough experience there

[candid latch]

This is true, my experience is not enough for that.

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#restoring-a-backup-on-a-new-install should work using Samba

[robust quarry]

I'll look into it. Thanks

[full current]

Ok, so I had a hard reset because of a crash (RPi 4) and now my clock is wrong. I've done a reboot, but that didn't help. Any suggestions?

It has the right date, but the time is way off (not only hours, also minutes)

[humble mirage]

The timezone is correct?

[full current]

in HA yes. But the OS already has the wrong time (can see with date in cli)

Don't know if HA manages that for the pi?

[humble mirage]

HAOS does

[full current]

If I enter the terminal and type "date" I get the same time HA has and it's off by a few hours and about 40 min 🙂

nothing in the supervisor or HA logs that seem relevant except the errors from the integrations that don't like the time being wrong

[humble mirage]

Unfortunately I don't know how to fix it in HAOS

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#home-assistant-via-the-command-line may have some answers

[sweet quiver]

Hi, i have a problem reaching HA from outside. HA is installed in a container. i use swag to create the certificates and do the nginx stuff. but i struggle with the nginx configuration. no matter what i try i only get 502 bad gateway..

[humble mirage]

Check HA's log file too

Sharing your NGINX config will help us help you

[humble scaffold]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

[sweet quiver]

HA looks fine i guess: s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner: starting s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner successfully started s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs: starting s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully started s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: starting s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully started s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: starting services-up: info: copying legacy longrun home-assistant (no readiness notification) s6-rc: info: service legacy-services successfully started

[humble mirage]

That's not HA's log file

[humble scaffold]

If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

• Check the troubleshooting steps
• Check your log file - remembering you may need to set logger to info or debug
• Explain what the problem you're having is - sharing configuration, errors, and logs

[full current]

Ok hard reset, unplug, wait 5 min, replug. That solved it

[sweet quiver]

home-assistant.log ?

[humble scaffold]

@sweet quiver When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[sweet quiver]

is empty

[humble mirage]

And your NGINX config?

[sweet quiver]

http://pastie.org/p/5Wb48OhWFvEIk2yVeeOKG7 homeassistant.subdomain......

[humble mirage]

@sweet quiver you don't have to

@sweet quiver tag me on every

@sweet quiver reply

[sweet quiver]

http://pastie.org/p/6kwQ9DVmrSt0VZjSktHwIk default

[humble mirage]

And you're not using Docker?

[sweet quiver]

i use docker

[humble mirage]

Because localhost may not do what you think

Try using the host IP (or container name)

[sweet quiver]

yeah i tried localhost, i tried the local ip, i tried the container ip

[humble mirage]

The host IP would be better

Try that, and check that you've correctly configured http in HA for the proxy

[sweet quiver]

sure i tried host ip too

[humble scaffold]

HTTP

Offers a web framework to serve files.

Quality scale

:house: Internal

IoT Class

Local Push

Integration type

system

Documentation

View the documentation

Source

View the source on GitHub

Issues

View known issues

[humble mirage]

http:
  use_x_forwarded_for: true
  trusted_proxies:
    - 192.168.0.24/32

You've got that, or similar?

[sweet quiver]

yes but i did not change the ip as i thought i use default settings

[humble mirage]

Well, the IP has to be right, or it'll log an error in the log

(and refuse the connection)

[sweet quiver]

i got portainer: 172.17.0.2
HA: 172.22.0.3
swag: 172.22.0.2

172.16.0.0/12 in my configuration

[sweet quiver]

hm on the server where i run docker i can reach portainer with hostip:port and with localhost:port so i thought i should be able to reach HA too with hostip:port and localhost:port but i only reach HA with localhost:port

[humble mirage]

That's expected with host networking

[sweet quiver]

Okay, hm any other idea whats wrong with my configuration? 🤷

[humble mirage]

Well, if the connection is reaching HA then if you have the wrong IP in the trusted_proxies you'll get an error in HA's log file, so try that?

Set a trusted proxy of 1.2.3.4/32, restart HA, and see if you get something in the log (you may have to set the log level)

[sweet quiver]

should i get something in the log? 😄

[humble mirage]

If you connect from an untrusted proxy, yes

A request from a reverse proxy was received from 172.17.0.2, but your HTTP integration is not set-up for reverse proxies

[sweet quiver]

okay, i think i have to adjust logging settings

okay i set default log level to info and i dont see something like that you wrote

[humble mirage]

Then, assuming you gave it a bogus IP for the trusted proxy, the connection isn't reaching it

Have you ever used tcpdump/tshark?

[sweet quiver]

no i dont thnink

[humble mirage]

That'd be my tool here - look at the packets and see what the proxy is doing

The problem is either in the proxy config, or the host config (that is, the host config is blocking the connection)

[thin grove]

Can I use universal-silabs-flasher to read the current firmware from the HA Yellow ?

[humble mirage]

#yellow-archived would probably know better

[sweet quiver]

so i tried tcpdump host speedport.ip -A
that is not readable xD do i need other flags? how would you run the command?

[rapid arrow]

Tried to do a fresh install on my odroid n2+ but during the first setup i get stuck on "preparing assistant" and in the log i see
"23-02-14 07:24:58 ERROR (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can’t install ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4/json: Not Found (“no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4”)"
Got Google wifi router, could that be the problem? I used it the last time o set it up and then it worked with no issue

[humble mirage]

tcpdump -X host 192.168.0.42 port 8123

You'll basically get a view of the packets as seen, assuming any are seen

[sweet quiver]

not any packet

[humble mirage]

Then the problem is either in the NPM config, or you've got something filtering traffic

[sweet quiver]

but i dont try to call HA with the port, nginx should do it for the subdomain. you know how i mean that?

[humble mirage]

        set $upstream_app localhost;
        set $upstream_port 8123;
        set $upstream_proto http;
        proxy_pass $upstream_proto://$upstream_app:$upstream_port;

You're trying to "call" it with the port, unless you're doing it very wrong

[sweet quiver]

yeah indirect. i call HA.mydomain.duckdns.org and nginx should do direct it to HA.mydomain.duckdns.org:8123 as it is configured

but with tcpdump i should see it?

[humble mirage]

Yes

Are you using the host IP now?

[sweet quiver]

yes

[humble mirage]

And that IP works elsewhere?

What if you try wget or curl on the host running NPM?

[sweet quiver]

i can call portainer on another computer within the same network if you meant that

[humble scaffold]

@sweet quiver When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[humble mirage]

No, as in ... if you use the IP and port to connect to HA from another computer, it works?

[sweet quiver]

nop

ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE

[humble mirage]

Well... that's a bit of a problem then

I'd made the mistake of assuming you'd actually got HA working and could connect to it

[sweet quiver]

it worked like that till i started to implement ssl

xD

[humble mirage]

Well, there shouldn't be any SSL in HA

At this point, the only change to HA's config should have been for the proxy

http:
  use_x_forwarded_for: true
  trusted_proxies:
    - 192.168.0.24/32
``` that should have been all you changed

[sweet quiver]

no really?

not ssl_certificate and ssl_key and external_url and internal_url

[humble mirage]

Those two SSL lines shouldn't be there

Those are almost certainly why you've got problems here

[sweet quiver]

yeah fu.. i'll just go and cry in the darkest corner i find in my house

THANK YOU! works xD

and if i mount /config it will keep all data and settings so i can just remove the container and pull the new image to update HA?

[green notch]

Has anyone here migrated a raspberry pi 4 HAOS instance from an micro sd card to an SSD? I could really use some help

[hearty locust]

Hello guys,

A few minutes ago, i've accidentally enabled the USB Controller in my Virtual Machine, as you guys can see above:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jdomiNfP3fN4TSnq5

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ENZigDpKYjEvwQUn8

Suddenly my computer crashed and this screen appeared.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xn2nRFGDJTHqK2h17

I've restarted my computer, but i want to set this section to the default configuation before restarting my VM. Can someone tell me what is the default config?

[wintry flax]

I created a cloudflare tunnel for my home assistant but I'm getting 400: Bad Request error

[fallen lichen]

Sounds like you didn't set up the trusted proxy correctly

[humble scaffold]

@wintry flax I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[fallen lichen]

Why do you have all of those addresses listed?

You need the address of where cloudflared is running

[wintry flax]

those are all the cloudflare ips

[fallen lichen]

Are you running cloudflared?

[wintry flax]

i have the docker running

[fallen lichen]

The cloudflared image?

[wintry flax]

i have the cloudflare tunnel docker running

[fallen lichen]

The address of that container (or just your docker network) needs to be added

[wintry flax]

just added that, still getting 400 error

[fallen lichen]

Did you restart HA?

[wintry flax]

yes

[brisk willow]

Check the HA log

[wintry flax]

2023-02-14 18:01:03.019 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.forwarded] A request from a reverse proxy was received from xxx.xx.x.x, but your HTTP integration is not set-up for reverse proxies

but its in my config

[brisk willow]

So the cloudflared container's IP address is in your http config and that's the address shown in that error? You don't need to mask LAN IP addresses btw

[wintry flax]

yes it is

i added it to the trusted_ips

[fallen lichen]

It needs to go in trusted_proxies

[wintry flax]

that's what i meant

but even have i restart the docker container it still gives error 400: bad request

[brisk willow]

What does the config on cloudflare's side look like?

In Zero Trust

[wintry flax]

the subdomain.domain.net then using http with the local ip of the server on the port for home assistant

[fallen lichen]

If that IP is actually in the correct section and you've also restarted HA... the only other thing I can think of is you have >1 http: section in your config

[wintry flax]

i have http: in my config

[fallen lichen]

Just a single time

and indented underneath that is trusted_proxies:

and underneath that is the docker container IP

[wintry flax]

and use_x_forwarded_for: true

[fallen lichen]

Right... all seems fine. If you haven't already, nuke the giant list of IPs

All you need the your docker IPs not external ones

[wintry flax]

just tried the one ip, and restarted docker, still 400: bad request

[fallen lichen]

You don't need to restart everything, just a Dev Tools -> Restart in HA

[wintry flax]

Configuration invalid!

use_x_forwarded_for: true
trusted_proxies:
- 172.17.0.3```

[fallen lichen]

you need to indent lines 2+

http:
  use_x_forwarded_for: true
  trusted_proxies:
    - 172.17.0.3

[wintry flax]

why would that matter? it would still read it the same

[fallen lichen]

To you? Yes, but the YAML parser is what's interpreting it

and whitespace matters

That shows that the elements beneath it are nested

[wintry flax]

I've never heard of whitespace mattering

[fallen lichen]

Well, it does matter in YAML... and Python... and several other languages

[wintry flax]

that worked

[fallen lichen]

🎉 Glad to hear

[wintry flax]

thanks

[fallen lichen]

You're welcome

[bright path]

hey all.. I am trying to get HA running for the first time on my windows 10 . I installed Hyper-V, downloaded the disk, created the VM (type 2, bridged network, turned off secure boot, etc). And the first time it boots it gives me a supervisor error (can't start), and then I restart the VM and it "seems" fine, gives me a ip address for my network, but stays stuck in the "Preparing Home Assistant" screen for about 30 minutes

I've tried doing a supervisor restart, but now get

Processing.... Done.

Post "http://supervisor/core/restart": dial tcp 172.30.32.2:80 connect: connection refused

if I restart the VM, it goes back in to "Preparing Home Assistant" mode in a browser

[bright path]

^^ Cancel... I think some windows updates we're gumming things up -I rebooted the whole machine and all is fine!

[placid sage]

Good morning, I had a problem installing HA. Once installed and configured some devices when I have changed the plug and started again, the ip tells me that it rejects the connection. I have reinstalled it again and on the "preparing HA" screen after a while it rejects the connection again. I have pinged the HA ip and it is correct.

[solid osprey]

Is it possible to restore a google backup made in HAOS to a docker-based installtion? If so, that won't include the addons obviously, right?

[rapid arrow]

what can i do about error ´´´
23-02-15 12:48:48 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
23-02-15 12:49:18 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4
23-02-15 12:49:18 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant with tag 2023.2.4.
23-02-15 13:03:44 ERROR (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4") ´´´

During a fresh install? is there anything i can do?

[fallen lichen]

That's usually either you don't have enough disk space on your device or your DNS configuration is broken

[fallen lichen]

"Restore" in the sense that you just need to grab the /config folder and make that available to your new container, and correct, no add-ons

[rapid arrow]

its a 64gb emmc, or 128gb sd im trying on.. could they be an DNS configuration on the odroid im trying to install it on? i have tried 3 different networks nad routers

[fallen lichen]

Could you try setting that device's DNS server to either 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 and give it another shot to see if that'd help

[rapid arrow]

on the device itself or on the router?

[fallen lichen]

Device is fine.... if it's easier on the router so it picks it up via DHCP, could give that a shot too

[solid osprey]

What about automations that are done via GUI and not yaml, are they stored in config, too?

[fallen lichen]

They are, they're just stored in /config/automations.yaml

There are hidden files in /config that you'll need to ensure get copied over

[rapid arrow]

Tried 8.8.8.8 on the router with no success same error

[placid sage]

i've this problem starting on virtualbox (runs on windows 11, the virtual machine has 4gb ram, 2 cpu cores, efi enabled as instructed) how can i solve? https://i.imgur.com/81E0g5Y.png

[rapid arrow]

Tried pull Docker but then get " layers from manifest don't match image configuration"

[safe delta]

Good morning Everyone. I got a raspberry pi running home assistant with SD and Conbee II stick. The SSD and the Conbee stick are plugged onto a powered USB hub. Im experiencing 2 types of fails, and its random. 1. z2m might not start because
“cannot open /dev/ttyACM0'
at SerialPort.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/deconz/driver/driver.ts:200:28)
at SerialPort._error (/app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:76:22)
at /app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:112:18
or Ha completly fails , i cant get to web interface . Any suggestions on what type of logs i should be looking for ?

[fluid apex]

I'm trying to install home assistant on my Pi 4 according to these instructions: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi

The Pi is currently connected directly to my PC via LAN. I can access http://homeassistant.local:4357/ but http://homeassistant.local:8123/ does not work.

I'm certainly not using HTTPS and the Pi itself is running.

Can someone help me here please?

[humble mirage]

What do you see at port 4357?

Is the Pi able to reach the Internet?

[fluid apex]

Home Assistant observer
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

[humble mirage]

(and you're not in Egypt are you?)

[fluid apex]

I am not in Egypt

[humble mirage]

Can you connect a monitor?

(and keyboard)

[fluid apex]

my keychron keyboard doesn't work with the pi. "over-current condition". So no 😦

[humble mirage]

What else have you got connected to the USB ports of the Pi?

[fluid apex]

nothing

but the keyboard is wireless. I think it is trying to charge while connected

[humble mirage]

Well, presumably you have a dongle for it, or is it Bluetooth?

[fluid apex]

bluetooth

and via usb c -> USB A

but I see that the Pi is not assigned IPv4 or IPv6. Should I rather connect it directly to the router. But then I have no monitor there😅

[humble mirage]

How is it connected just now?

[fluid apex]

to my pc via lan

[humble mirage]

To your PC?

Not to a switch?

[fluid apex]

no

so yes i am dumb

it does work now 😄

[humble mirage]

Yeah... things can't download if you don't actually allow it to reach the Internet

[fluid apex]

i didn't know HA had to download anything first. I misunderstood the instructions (English is not my first language). I also wondered how that would work. But after the one port worked, I thought that it would work with HA.

[humble mirage]

The OS image probably has the observer built in, so that worked regardless

[granite girder]

I tried this but just not able to add the switches here..

[humble mirage]

The #integrations-archived channel can help you with integrations, unless you mean the UI

If you mean the UI that'd be #frontend-archived

I have more sense than to buy Tuya, so I can't help you with them

[granite girder]

its not scanning the switches

[humble mirage]

If you're having problems getting the integration to work then you need to ask in the #integrations-archived channel

You also need to provide more information, like what version of HA, what version of that custom component, and any log entries

[granite girder]

ok Thank@!

[cedar fjord]

hi, im stucked on "Preparing Home Assistant" screen.
Connected to cli directly and watched logs, didn't see any error message.
Tried ping to google.com successfully
HA Observer page displaying correctly
Installation is HA OS (2023.2.4)
hassos: 9.5

its running on a raspberry pi 3b+ with a 128gb sd card

any suggestions?

[rapid arrow]

same problem here but with an odroid n2+... same ha os and hassos, if you click the blue pulsating dot you get log. maybe we have the same issue? i think there might be something wrong with it?

[rapid arrow]

for me it says

23-02-15 19:00:01 INFO (SyncWorker_5) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant with tag 2023.2.4.
23-02-15 19:03:20 ERROR (SyncWorker_5) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4")
23-02-15 19:03:20 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec

[cedar fjord]

i see the logs connecting directly to the host and accessing "supervisor log"

but im not getting any error log 🤔

[rapid arrow]

ive tried with 3 different network, 2 different google wifi routers, one tp-link router 3 different isp, 3 different locations, also tried changing dns to 1.1.1.1. and 8.8.8.8...

i can visit it with my browser

Pinging ghcr.io [140.82.121.33] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 140.82.121.33: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=54
Reply from 140.82.121.33: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=54
Reply from 140.82.121.33: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=54
Reply from 140.82.121.33: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 140.82.121.33:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 26ms, Maximum = 29ms, Average = 27ms

from my laptop that is

im thinking if there is something wrong with the odroid n2+ itself.. but without the information on the sd or emmc there is not much it can do right?

i tried to run "docker pull" but then i get

"layers from manifest don't match image configuration"

also from the home assistant CLI i get "Error returned from supervisor: system is not ready with state: setup"

yes no problem pingit the odroid Pinging 192.168.86.42 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.86.42: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.86.42: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.86.42: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.86.42: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.86.42:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 12ms

its either something on the odroid, since both sd card and emmc is failing the same way,, or something with the file its trying to get from ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2023.2.4

i guess

[celest quartz]

Hi all, when importing keys via USB and using the ha os import or rebooting the host, do I still need to keep the USB plugged in to log in as root from SSH after either of these have been done? thanks

thanks!

ahh good to know! If I ever loose those keys

hmm how do favorite or save your message?

guess I can just copy paste into some other file

[rapid arrow]

got out more from the error log now, posted it here where its easier to see it in code.. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/stuck-at-preparing-home-assistant-on-odroidn2-no-such-image-ghcr-io-home-assistant-odroid-n2-homeassistant-2023-2-4/534976/3

[fleet spruce]

QQ: What's the difference between the 'latest' and 'stable' tag for docker based HA?

[grand pivot]

stable is correct, and latest is random

[fleet spruce]

Ahh, ok.

Thanks.

I figured 'latest' was = nightly, and stable was... well, stable... 😛

[grand pivot]

Latest is whatever was built last

[quiet raven]

Hey can anyone point me to a solve for basically this; https://community.home-assistant.io/t/mounting-internal-ssd-in-haos-for-use-in-plex/454392.

If i can mount some hdds to haos then i can fkanlly get rid of my true nas machine for good

[copper steppe]

HAOS is not really a **general-purpose **virtualisation platform, even though addons do some of that. You might be better running both HA and Plex in VMs on something like proxmox (or truenas, haha)

[fresh solstice]

hey, whats is the best virtualbox version to run HAOS? I'm on 6.1.30 but i have a few issues with start ups and shut downs

[storm geyser]

How do I see what "Unsupported software" is installed? Haven't changed anything and now this popped up. Running HAOS on rpi4

[humble mirage]

Did you ever install Portainer?

[storm geyser]

no

only thing that has changed today is I updated to the latest release of HA. And the latest esphome

[humble scaffold]

@north rock When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[humble mirage]

If you're not running HAOS (or Supervised) it's "fine"

Well... then at some point you're going to get a great big Unsupported warning

(and probably Unhealthy)

Things then may refuse to work

[quiet raven]

originally i was running it all via truenas but yeah it wasn't being updated enough or giving me all the features so i built HA into its own PC using HAOS. Also moved epshome, logitech media server and mqtt over there too. Only things left on the NAS are Plex, my steam library and nextcloud! All of which would need HDDs in the HA PC to be moved over :(((

[tender garnet]

Hello guys I’m new here and I make a mistake setting up my home Assistant and is there any way to reset and make fresh start?

[humble mirage]

Depends on what you mean

Removing the config for HA itself ... yes that's easy

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#installing-and-using-the-ssh-add-on-requires-enabling-advanced-mode-for-the-ha-user
Install and configure that so you can SSH to the computer. Then stop HA and delete everything in the config folder

ha core stop
cd /config && rm -fr .??* *
ha core start

[maiden crypt]

Hi, I have a question... If I'm wanting to migrate my HA setup from a Raspberry Pi to an old PC... Once I have a working fresh HA installation on that PC, is it more complicated than just restoring from a backup that I took using my Raspberry Pi?

[humble mirage]

No, that's all you do

[maiden crypt]

Nice!

Thank you

[robust quarry]

When migrating from a HA Supervised to HA-OS, are there folders we should not restore?

[crude inlet]

from supervised to HAOS you should use the built in backups

a full backup

[tender garnet]

Than you

[mossy hornet]

I setup HA and installed DuckDNS (via the add-on) so I can access HA from my phone while away, but now when I go to my local ip (https://192.168.100.10:8123/) I only get the Unable to connect to Home Assistant. message. In the console there are two error messages:

Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at wss://192.168.100.10:8123/api/websocket.```
But that doesn't mean very much to me.  Any ideas?

[humble mirage]

What if you use Chrome?

[mossy hornet]

Let's see....

[humble mirage]

Either way, you're always going to have errors accessing the IP

[mossy hornet]

Why?

[humble mirage]

Because the SSL certificate isn't for the IP

So your browser will complain, and the official app will refuse the connection

[mossy hornet]

Oh. The DuckDNS installs a cert for that domain only. Makes sense. Do you know of a workaround?

[humble mirage]

Use a proxy server for SSL

[mossy hornet]

I found an old post about this topic and it said to setup NGINX Home Assistant SSL proxy, which I did, but nothing changed.

Ah, yeah, that. 🙂

[humble mirage]

Well, sure, but you have to remove any ssl_ lines from HA's config

[mossy hornet]

Ooh. Okay, lemme nuke those and see what happens.

uuh, HA's not coming back up 😅

[humble scaffold]

• HAOS ha core check
• Container uses docker commands
• Core requires you to activate the venv first

[humble mirage]

Always run that after touching YAML

[mossy hornet]

Processing...

Long process. Must be thorough.

[humble mirage]

It is, unlike the UI check

[mossy hornet]

ok! It finished. Lemme take a look.

failed to install sqlalchemy because of a dependency conflict...

That's it.

  General Errors:
    - Platform error sensor.sql_json - Requirements for sql_json not found: ['sqlalchemy~=1.4.27'].

Full error:

Error: Testing configuration at /config
INFO:homeassistant.util.package:Attempting install of sqlalchemy~=1.4.27
ERROR:homeassistant.util.package:Unable to install package sqlalchemy~=1.4.27: ERROR: Cannot install sqlalchemy~=1.4.27 because these package versions have conflicting dependencies.
ERROR: ResolutionImpossible: for help visit https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/topics/dependency-resolution/#dealing-with-dependency-conflicts

[humble mirage]

Ok, you have a custom component problem

What custom components are you using?

[mossy hornet]

I don't know, I can't access the UI to get a list.

I'm poking around the fs to see if I can find something there but I'm pretty new to this.

[humble mirage]

The custom components are in the log file at the top

home-assistant.log

HA itself requires sqlalchemy==2.0.3 and no built in integration will over-ride that

[mossy hornet]

the log has warnings about: hacs, nodered, resmed_myair (which I don't need anymore), mass, localtuya, and sql_json

[humble mirage]

sql_json is your problem

It needs updated

[mossy hornet]

Okay. 🙂 How do I do that from the cmd line?

[humble mirage]

You don't

[mossy hornet]

cool

[humble mirage]

You open an issue with the developer

[mossy hornet]

I mean, meanwhile my HA won't operate so I'd rather uninstall it.

or roll something back or upgrade something

why would sql_json fail because I removed ssl_certificate:... from my config? I mean... I guess I'll ponder that later. Right now I need my HA to run again.

[humble mirage]

Removing it from /config/custom_components/ will stop it loading, but if you've already installed and configured it you also have to undo that

If it's https://github.com/crowbarz/ha-sql_json then just remove all the YAML that references it

[mossy hornet]

ok, I had a single sensor that was using sql_json so I blanked out my sensors.yaml file

So that didn't do anything. 😕 What'm I missing?

[humble mirage]

Did you restart HA?

[mossy hornet]

I did.

[humble mirage]

And... what's in HA's log now?

[mossy hornet]

The log file looks the same.

[humble mirage]

Remember to use http:// with the IP

[mossy hornet]

ok, I can get in with http://

file editor doesn't work, so that's weird.

So http works for both my domain and local, but obviously that's not a great solution.

[humble mirage]

Now you need to configure your proxy to handle SSL

[mossy hornet]

I have NGINX Home Assistant SSL proxy setup according to the instructions.

[humble mirage]

And did you forward the ports from your router to it, or to HA?

[mossy hornet]

I remember doing so. Lemme open it up and look.

[humble mirage]

You can also check the proxy logs to see if you're touching it at all

[mossy hornet]

No images allowed here, but: https://pasteboard.co/JHLp5ajPbcUO.png That's my port forwarding setup

[humble mirage]

Well, two of those aren't needed

You only need to forward port 443

Then you use https://example.duckdns.org/

[mossy hornet]

Okay, I'll nuke the other two

[mossy hornet]

This gives me "Unable to connect to home assistant"

(I've got an interview now but I'll be back later.)

[humble scaffold]

@mossy hornet When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[mossy hornet]

http:
  use_x_forwarded_for: true
  trusted_proxies:
    - 192.168.100.0/24

My interviewer didn't show up so I'm still around.

I can see that /ssl/fullchain.pem and /ssl/privkey.pem exist, as specified in the NGINX Home Assistant SSL proxy config.

[valid pebble]

hmm, applied the update today and now my vm is using almost a full gig more memory o_O

[idle saddle]

@humble scaffold i am having this message: WARNING:2023-02-14 15:08:47,075:hass_configurator.configurator:'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xfb in position 106: invalid start byte

[idle saddle]

what can i do?

[frozen plinth]

First of all don’t post the same problem in multiple channels

[humble scaffold]

@idle saddle Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

[humble mirage]

There's also zero point in tagging the bot...

[mossy hornet]

Hookup the bot to chatgpt and maybe....

[humble mirage]

Then it can give plausible sounding incorrect advice

[mossy hornet]

Not too dissimilar to most advice I find on HA 😅

I posted that duckdns/nginx problem on the community forum and got someone complaining about me having a modem so ... I dunno, chatgpt might be a step up.

[frozen plinth]

Chatgpt was probably trained on their advice but from 12+ major releases of HA ago so you know it would be a really intelligent thing to do. Proper next level intellect. Musk level. A++.

[copper steppe]

What about something like proxmox?

[naive cargo]

how do install the libva-mesa-driver on the HAOS version

[humble mirage]

You ... don't

[naive cargo]

so now way to enable HW acceleration ?

[humble mirage]

For Frigate I assume?

[naive cargo]

yes

[humble mirage]

Pretty sure the answer's going to be not a hope in hell

[naive cargo]

how about if I install my own os

[humble mirage]

Debian, sure

No add-ons though

[naive cargo]

o

under proxmox can I enable hw acceleration if i install in separate container

[humble mirage]

Running Frigate in a VM on top of Proxmox, ESXi, Virtualbox, etc. is not recommended. The virtualization layer often introduces a sizable amount of overhead for communication with Coral devices, but not in all circumstances.

[naive cargo]

so I should just buy a coral and call it a day

[low notch]

you can setup a debian vm besides haos and use frigate in there as it was intended to be used. but at this point its just a matter of minutes to get HA and eventual additional software also running in docker on your own. that is why everyone here will suggest a container install to get all of it

[humble mirage]

Well, you need one anyway

Docker is shockingly easy

Debian on that host, with Docker, and optionally running HAOS in a VM if you really want it

I'd do that over Proxmox

[naive cargo]

but docker is running under proxmox, which is not recommened

[humble mirage]

No

Install Debian on the computer

If you want HAOS, use VM software - including Proxmox - so you can run HAOS in a VM on top of Debian

[naive cargo]

ok, i think i got it

[humble mirage]

There are ... challenges if you go with Proxmox that way

https://wiki.debian.org/KVM would be better

[naive cargo]

is that gui based?

[low notch]

leave proxmox as is, just as you leave haos and don't install packages on your own

if you want advanced do debian

[naive cargo]

do I bother trying to get HW acceleration for 2 cameras

[copper steppe]

@humble mirage I'd love to see some experimental data that actually measures the performance impact of a type-1 virtualiser (ie: proxmox or esxi). I've always found it (dayjob) to be basically imperceptible.

[humble mirage]

I'm quoting somebody else's docs, take it up with them, not me

[copper steppe]

Any thoughts on a representative test? Maybe some sqllite benchmark?

[humble mirage]

I have no horse in this race

[copper steppe]

I wasn't hassling you - just opening a genuine dialog.

[humble mirage]

Right, so you tagged me for shits and giggles

Noted

[copper steppe]

I'm aware I'm a bit of a proxmox pimp (because it works so well for me); and I'm interested in people with different perspectives

[humble mirage]

Any VM has overheads, it's the nature of a VM

[copper steppe]

I tagged you relating to your comment about coral on virtualisation in particular. Am interested.

[humble mirage]

Right, and I was quoting somebody's docs

[copper steppe]

A type-1 hypervisor is quite a different beast to virtualbox etc

[humble mirage]

So... if you disagree... take it up with them

[copper steppe]

🤷‍♂️ But "hardware acceleration" can be problematic, sure.

I wouldn't run my NAS in proxmox for example

[naive cargo]

I'd like an all around box that i can do lots of things on, currently running xpenology which has virtual machines and docker

[copper steppe]

kabre For that, for me, I have lots of success with proxmox

But if you already have a NAS with virtualisation, and it's working for you, that's great too

tinkerer: fwiw I'm also having a parallel discussion with my workmate about esxi vs proxmox, trying to understand reason for his decisions. I feel like there's usually a reason, and that is interesting.

[naive cargo]

does the new esxi 8 support containers?

[copper steppe]

I have no idea, I'm proxmox boi. But I have a spare machine, workmate and I are going to do some side-by-side same-hardware comparisons in the next couple of weeks. Might throw native HA/linux in there too, if we can agree on a useful benchmark that's not just IO

BUt containers doesn't really feel like vmware/esx's lane

but... https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-vSphere-Integrated-Containers/index.html

[sharp flame]

That should be fine.

I'm happy to help people run docker and configure bullshit to work

and VM overhead isn't much an issue anymore. It exists, but I wouldn't worry about it, you certainly shouldn't have to design around it.

I prefer debian network boot OR terraform cloud infrastructure management.
Ansible to run VMs attached to varying networks classed by data/security.
Ansible to configure docker/containers running in each VM on whichever networks.

[pearl tapir]

anyone here got any experiance with the MQTT HVAC stuff?

I keep getting this error when trying to set temperature:

Failed to call service climate/set_temperature. UndefinedError: 'dict object' has no attribute 'unknown'

[humble mirage]

Share the call you're making

Though, this is more for #integrations-archived or #automations-archived than installation

[pearl tapir]

ah ok, sorry i thought I was in general

will move to integrations

[analog stump]

Hi, I am planning on offloading the recorder data base to my Synology. HA is running on a PI and I want to make sure that HA continues to function even if the synology is down. Will pointing the recorded to a database on the synology cause HA to stop functioning if synology is upgrading or has a downtime?

[low notch]

no, it will show a notification that your db server is unreachable and thus errors out. ha should keep on chugging without it though

[humble mirage]

It does keep on running happily if the database goes away

[grand pivot]

you'll get quite a lot of log spam, though

it might fill up the storage device on your Pi if it's gone for too long

[last trench]

Guys, are you also having troubles installing Core version of 2023.2.5? (pip3 install homeassistant==2023.2.5) ERROR: No matching distribution found for homeassistant==2023.2.5

[torn palm]

Upgraded from PI3 to Dell wyse 5070. Got HA installed on Dell and did restore via Google drive backup. Worked except all my add ons are stopped and will not restart. From logs error] [ha-device:Goodnoght] Invalid config for device trigger. Other add ins stop here INFO: Starting NGINX server.. Can some one give me a hand?

[brittle sail]

I’d just restore from backup again and see if it was a failed restore the first time

[torn palm]

Was able to install Google drive backup and file editor when I first started new install. They still work. Would hate to loose all my node red and other stuff.

Seems like there must be something common in the backed up stuff.

[fallen lichen]

After you do your initial restore, you need to fully reboot the host, not just a Dev Tools -> Restart for the add-ons to come back up fully

[torn palm]

Ok will try that. Have been doing easy reboot route.

WhoooHoooo That was it. Power off reboot and all my stuff is back!!! Many thanks NSX saved me much putzing around.

[humble mirage]

Guys are you also having troubles

[placid sage]

Installing devices and really don't care to have them all going outbound. Seems my ecobee T-stat can be controlled local. I hope the 18 T-link Kasa switches can be kept local as well. However my new unnamed at time of purchase now to find out it's Tuya 220V breaker is not being found by HA. Do I really have to get an acct with Tuya for this or is there a way to keep it local?

[chrome onyx]

heya, anyone know how to install HA on TrueNas Core?
thanks so much!

[solid osprey]

I created a new HA instance and copied over my config file, but it seems helpers, dashboards & areas are not copied over? Did I do something wrong or does it just not get copied over?

[raven forge]

A lot of things are stored in the .storage folder

[humble mirage]

heya anyone know how to install HA on

[solid osprey]

Ah thanks, it looks like I copied .storage from src but didn't copy to dst. lmfao just learned scp doesn't include hiden files unless you append a dot at the end of src. shame on me for not using rsync I guess

[fiery eagle]

Hey all, I'm having trouble setting up Home Assistant in a docker container on a linux server. I did have it setup and working but after updating the container and restarting my system I broke it 🙃

[twin forge]

I have a server/NAS running promox and install HA but I tinker around a bit with it, so was going to get a dell micropc or NUC to run home assistant for lights and heating (critical stuff). How easy is it to run 2 instances of HA and control the things on both via mobile etc? Can you make a consolidated view?

[sudden quarry]

Why not just create another VM for HaOS 2?

[twin forge]

I meant I mess with the NAS hardware a bit, plus its in my second bedroom which people sleep in

And the disks are too noisy

[sudden quarry]

Ah ok, fair enough

Im not sure you can link the 2 homes how you want, but you can swap between different homes

[twin forge]

Googling it looks like I can push stuff from one instance to another with MQTT?

i.e. a Master and slave

[sudden quarry]

You can probably do that yes

[vivid hemlock]

Hey, been searching near everywhere for a possible answer or link to no avail, so thought of asking here. Does a 32-bit image for HAOS exist that I can use to install on an old 32 bit laptop?

[fallen lichen]

No, not for HA OS.... I don't even know if a Core install would work on x86. You'd be much better off finding something more modern (but low power) to run HAOS on.

[vivid hemlock]

Thank you for the sad but expected answer. Just to be sure, would it not be possible to run home assistant in lets say a 64 bit vm running on a ubuntu OS using a KVM image?

[fallen lichen]

If your processor isn't 64-bit, no

and if you do have a 32-bit processor... that thing is well over 10 years old 🧮

[vivid hemlock]

indeed it is, thought it was a shame not putting it to use when I had it lying around, oh well appreciate the help.

[fallen lichen]

Suitable door stop 😉

[balmy axle]

hello everyone, is there please fully offline installation and running possible on rpi3/4 ? I'm looking for way to monitor my power usage with tasmota compatible plugs and HA, thanks.

[slender olive]

I can't think of a reason that HA couldn't work without internet access, however it would need local network access to talk to the Tasmota devices.

My HA seems to be restarting several times a day, but I am seeing no obvious cause .. or even log details indicating a reboot reason. This installation is Home Assistant OS (HA 2023.2.5, Super 2023.01.1, OS 9.5, Frontend 20230202.0 - latest) on Proxmox VE 7.3-6.

Here is the console output of a journalctl -f at the time of the restart: https://imgur.com/a/EV2fV4F
Dmesg following reboot: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3xZPrJ3KdN/

Where else can I look for logs/reboot cause messages?

[balmy axle]

i have wired LAN access to RPI and local WiFi to iot devices, but it won't start installation process...
now I'm reading online that it's required to firstly connect RPI to internet, but I only have hotspot access not via LAN.... please how I do this installation on RPI? (it's off-site location)

[humble mirage]

Then you'll need to connect the Pi to WiFi on the first boot, so it can download and install HA

https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/blob/dev/Documentation/network.md

[astral flax]

I have a RPi 3b+ running Home Assistant on HassOS. Recently (2023.01.1?) the Supervisor has no internet while the host has internet. Anyone else with this experience?

[balmy axle]

@humble mirage thanks for the link, thought only wired was option (everywhere said), that said i already successfully connected to the hotspot on my phone, but now I'm waiting for half an hour on landing page and no installation still.
initially, there was network activity, but now i see nothing, so RPI probably completed downloading stuff, but still even after half an hour landing page... is there any command (inside RPI terminal) that i should run or?

[humble mirage]

The web UI has access to logs

[balmy axle]

i only see "Preparing Home Assistant" and links to forum discord newsletter and phone apps

observer link Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

[humble mirage]

Click the blue circle

[balmy axle]

now i see, its super long

[humble scaffold]

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[balmy axle]

https://dpaste.org/rUPuE

so probably update that hypervisor and try after reboot?

[humble mirage]

Well, you need to configure WiFi so it can reach the Internet

[balmy axle]

and i did, its online now

if you refer to that spam its before i did

i just in case pasted everything

*23-02-18 18:35:15 * thats circa when i did that

first command it did not work, second time connected

[humble mirage]

If it has working Internet access then it should download everything and work, though obviously if your connection is slow it'll take a while

[balmy axle]

now its about 10-15mbits, its offsite cabin

[humble mirage]

Not the slowest I've seen lately

And hell, a lot faster than the DSL I had at my last place

[balmy axle]

no newer logs in place, its probably stuck on that hypervisor update?

[humble mirage]

Might be worth re-flashing it, and setting the WiFi for the first boot

I don't use HAOS myself

[balmy axle]

so i run ha supervisor update and it's doing now, probably this is why it's stuck, since no new logs after that

[astral flax]

Not able to ping version.home-assistant.io from the Supervisor container but basically all other servers I’ve tested. In the other containers this works…

[vivid hemlock]

Doing an install of HAOS on a system drive set to "no filesystem". After successful flash (balena etched) the disk shows the haos files downloaded but on reboot it just goes into grub rescue "no such device". Any ideas? https://imgur.com/gallery/HJ0eC2r

[humble scaffold]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

[zealous timber]

Hi Guys, I'm running HA using the ESXI ova and am getting an upgrade issue when updating from 2022.9.4 to 2023.2.5. My core is 2022.9.4.

When doing the update docker seems to be throwing an error saying "device or resource busy". This causes HA to become unresponsive until a reboot.

https://prnt.sc/KT881HSwUD35

I have an ESXI snapshot so am will to try anything risky to try and get it to take the update.

[hazy ocean]

roughly how long should it take for home assistant to start after restoring from a backup? mine claims to be starting for over 5 minutes now

[unborn sparrow]

Since it looks like it is impossible to get hands of RPI4 at the moment does anyone know about if there is any second brands styles boards that works with HA?

[humble mirage]

Pretty much any PC from the last decade

It should have at least 2 cores, 2 GB of RAM, and a CPUMark of 900 - plus supporting UEFI if you want HAOS

The history of the #hardware-archived channel has a lot of recommendations

[solid osprey]

What's the upgrade process for docker-based homeassistant if there's a new minor/patch out? Can I just replace the image and run the container? Well, I guess observing logs & rollback to previous image will be fine

[humble mirage]

Assuming you're doing the smart thing and using Docker Compose, same as any other upgrade

Configure the container to start unless stopped/always

Yes

Only if you use HAOS

Only HAOS has UI restores

For Docker you have to do it yourself

Extract homeassistant.tar.gz from the backup

Extract the contents of that to wherever you want it

[untold merlin]

Hi guys

Would love some input what is the Best smart light Dimmable switch

i can't work out if there some that needs a hub / subscription / Zwaves

its so hard to work out

[manic bane]

#hardware-archived will be able to help! Please see the pinned post for what info to include

[civic shale]

hello, I'm trying to run home assistant in windows, I tryed the docker approach changing the MY_TIME_ZONE and /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG values, and also the docker compose. With both approaches I get the docker image running, but can't access home assistant on localhost:8123 or myip:8123, is there something else that I need to do?

[raven forge]

What's your compose file look like? What do the docker logs say?

[civic shale]

version: '3'
services:
homeassistant:
container_name: homeassistant
image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
volumes:
- ../:/config
- /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
restart: unless-stopped
privileged: true
network_mode: host

2023-02-20 01:13:15 s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner: starting
2023-02-20 01:13:15 s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner successfully started
2023-02-20 01:13:15 s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs: starting
2023-02-20 01:13:15 s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully started
2023-02-20 01:13:15 s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: starting
2023-02-20 01:13:15 s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully started
2023-02-20 01:13:15 s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: starting
2023-02-20 01:13:15 services-up: info: copying legacy longrun home-assistant (no readiness notification)
2023-02-20 01:13:15 s6-rc: info: service legacy-services successfully started

[raven forge]

Looks okay to me but I can reproduce this on windows. Will investigate after my meal

[humble scaffold]

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[humble mirage]

HA on Windows doesn't support host mode networking

There's a reason why it's not supported in the docs 😉

I believe that WSL2 now supports it (though I've seen no confirmation), so running Debian in WSL and then running Docker there may work

[civic shale]

thank you for your response, so what should I use instead of host? I tried with bridge but didn't work

[raven forge]

Hmm yeah. Docker's docs still state

The host networking driver only works on Linux hosts, and is not supported on Docker Desktop for Mac, Docker Desktop for Windows, or Docker EE for Windows Server.
https://docs.docker.com/network/network-tutorial-host/#prerequisites
Maybe you can subscribe to this: https://github.com/docker/roadmap/issues/238

[civic shale]

thank you very much

[humble mirage]

The answer is ... a VM

Run Debian in a VM, or HAOS if you want add-ons

[civic shale]

😮 ok, I was trying to avoid that

[humble mirage]

That's Windows for you 😉

[raven forge]

The next "best"/easiest choice (while staying on windows) would be to do

ports:
    - 8123

but a lot of things will not work well like this so it's not really an alternative.
Maybe you could use Hyper-V? Sharing devices with it is a bit painful though and I'd recommend another hypervisor if you need to do this

[civic shale]

thank you both for your responses, I guess I will try tomorrow with the VM approach, hope you have a great nigth o day or whatever applies

[rough haven]

I'm currently running the HA Docker, with ESPHome and the zwave-js-ui dockers as well. I'm getting ready to install HA-OS on a dedicated PC. If I copy the homassistant configuration for my docker over, that should setup HA, but how do I move the zwave and esphome stuff over?

Do I just need to reconfigure it all?

[grand pivot]

most people don't move in that direction

ESPHome uses a directory in your /config directory for its stuff, so presumably you can just put all your ESP projects in there

[brittle sail]

I support it

Stand-alone hardware for smart home++

[grand pivot]

I believe that you can backup and restore the zwave_js_ui config

[brittle sail]

Yea I think so

[grand pivot]

I'm not against the "standalone hardware", just the movement from container to HA OS

[manic bane]

You can do standalone hardware and still run HA and other things using docker

[grand pivot]

which it sounds like is already the config that's being used

[rough haven]

I wanted to install an integration that requires HACS. It was my understanding that I cannot do this with the container

[grand pivot]

that is incorrect

[manic bane]

HACS is supported on all install types

[grand pivot]

it's even one of the FAQs

[rough haven]

OK that is even easier. Let me see what I missed. thanks

[brittle sail]

Always ask how to do what you want to do first it’ll save future you heartache

[brisk willow]

Also I don't think any custom integrations are required to be installed via HACS

[rough haven]

OK I installed HACS and saw that it downloaded and created a directory in /config/custom_components

I restarted the docker, cleared my browser cache, but HACS doesn't show in the integrations list

nevermind I found something wrong.

That is frustrating. Of coarse I figure it out immediately after posting. Helps if you install HACS in the correct config directory. All up and running many thanks!

[brittle sail]

https://tenor.com/view/im-so-proud-of-you-artie-j-smile-happy-gif-14376004

[broken lake]

ya until 1 month passes and you realize its busted once your key expires

tunnel token has maximum 1 month duration

[brisk willow]

Where did you see that? I've been running cloudflared for over 5 months without needing to change the token

[brittle sail]

they leave the default token set to 1month or w/e then bitch about it on reddit lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/115g6pc/cloudflared_works_great_then_every_couple_weeks/

[graceful depot]

Peace All, I am trying to install homeassistant on the raspberry pi(HAOS) but I have been unsuccessful and receive the following line in the supervisor log: " 'ResolutionFixup.run_autofix' blocked from execution, system is not healthy - supervisor." I have attempted to install HAOS via VM(Windows) and I have received the same message or "[supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant with tag 2023.2.5." but never downloads. I have looked all over the internet for leads as well as the HA website but I am unsuccessful. Could someone please assist me with this issue?

[placid sage]

I am currently running home assistance OS off of a USB, is there a easy way to move it to a internal SSD?

[real gate]

I'm trying to setup HA on my RPi3b, and the logs just are repeating 23-02-21 06:37:45 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.misc.tasks] Watchdog miss API response from Home Assistant 23-02-21 06:39:45 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.misc.tasks] Watchdog found a problem with Home Assistant API! 23-02-21 06:39:45 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Restarting ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant 23-02-21 06:41:46 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.misc.tasks] Watchdog miss API response from Home Assistant

[fallen lichen]

You can take a backup.... then put the image on your SSD and restore

[placid sage]

just done that, all worked well. just gotta setup scrypted again 👍

[fallen lichen]

Nice 👍

[dusty ingot]

If the AppArmor is not enabled on your host, add this to the Linux kernel boot parameters: apparmor=1 security=apparmor and then reboot your operating system. Can sb help how to add this to Linux kernel boot parametrs

[fallen lichen]

What's your install method

https://www.home-assistant.io/more-info/unsupported/apparmor/ ? Supervised?

https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/HowToUse#Enable_AppArmor

Also, it is enabled by default... so that's not too likely to be a cause

[dusty ingot]

supervised

[fallen lichen]

^ Those are the instructions, but since you're running Debian 11, that's not likely to be an issue

[rough haven]

I seem to have broken HA. I made a change to the configuration.yaml that it didn't like. So I commented out the change, but it still wouldn't start. So I restarted the docker and it won't start now either.

Message: 'Error during connection setup: (sqlite3.OperationalError) unable to open database file\n(Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/14/e3q8) (retrying in 3 seconds)\nTraceback (most recent call last):\n File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/base.py", line 3361, in _wrap_pool_connect\n return fn()\n File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/impl.py", line 382, in connect\n return _ConnectionFairy._checkout(self, self._fairy)\n File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 888, in _checkout\n fairy = _ConnectionRecord.checkout(pool)\n File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 491, in checkout\n rec = pool._do_get()\n File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/homeassistant/components/recorder/pool.py", line 74, in _do_get\n return super()._do_get()\n File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/impl.py", line 364, in _do_get\n c = self._create_connection()\n File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/sqlalchemy/pool/base.py", line 271, in _create_connection\n return

[fallen lichen]

Should paste that error somewhere like pastebin, but from what it looks like your home-assistant_v2.db may be hosed

[rough haven]

I move it out of the directory and tried to restart, as I read, but it still gives the same error

[fallen lichen]

well paste the error elsewhere and link to it

it's cut off

[rough haven]

will do

Here is a pastebin for the entire error:

https://pastebin.com/2UtjVpQ6

[fallen lichen]

Do you have anything for recorder: configured in your configuration

[rough haven]

No

I also had my zwave-js-ui docker fail at the same time. Could that be the cause? I don't know why that died either.

Its log says:

2023-02-21 07:55:36.210 ERROR Z-WAVE-SERVER: Failed to send the command after 3 attempts (Status Fail) (ZW0202)
ZWaveError: Failed to send the command after 3 attempts (Status Fail) (ZW0202)
at Driver.sendMessage (/usr/src/app/node_modules/zwave-js/src/lib/driver/Driver.ts:4001:23)
at Driver.sendCommandInternal (/usr/src/app/node_modules/zwave-js/src/lib/driver/Driver.ts:4192:28)
at Driver.sendCommand (/usr/src/app/node_modules/zwave-js/src/lib/driver/Driver.ts:4307:15)
at Proxy.get (/usr/src/app/node_modules/@zwave-js/cc/src/cc/ManufacturerSpecificCC.ts:106:24)
at ZWaveController.getAvailableFirmwareUpdates (/usr/src/app/node_modules/zwave-js/src/lib/controller/Controller.ts:5413:5)
at Function.handle (/usr/src/app/node_modules/@zwave-js/server/dist/lib/controller/message_handler.js:205:54)
at Object.controller (/usr/src/app/node_modules/@zwave-js/server/dist/lib/server.js:39:103)
at Client.receiveMessage (/usr/src/app/node_modules/@zwave-js/server/dist/lib/server.js:106:99)
at WebSocket.<anonymous> (/usr/src/app/node_modules/@zwave-js/server/dist/lib/server.js:50:45)
at WebSocket.emit (node:events:513:28)
Error: ENOTCONN: socket is not connected, close
2023-02-21 07:56:19.727 INFO Z-WAVE-SERVER: Client disconnected

[fallen lichen]

Have you tried just restarting the whole host

[rough haven]

that was next on my list

[fallen lichen]

I'd give that a shot and see if you still see the same issues

OS may just be unhappy

[rough haven]

Yep, a complete reboot of UnRaid fixed it. I couldn't restart the docker service, so something screwed up. thanks!

[swift root]

Hey how install on M2 Mac Mini ?

I trying to convert raspberry file img to vmdk with "allow-no-os" on parallels but i have this error always

https://ibb.co/Kmwmgnc (Screen Error)

[brisk willow]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/macos

[humble mirage]

Ah... images of text

[swift root]

i using parallels

[humble mirage]

Does Parallels even support Intel emulation?

[brisk willow]

|| then don't ||

[swift root]

I need to virtualize

[swift root]

UTM support

[brisk willow]

Please read the page I linked

[humble scaffold]

@swift root When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[humble mirage]

I assume that's you're very strange way of saying yes? Or is it no?

Or is it ... something else?

[brittle sail]

Yesnt?

[swift root]

X)

[brittle sail]

Trualse?

[swift root]

UTM Support Intel emulation but i use parallels

[brisk willow]

Mayben't

[humble mirage]

Wordsarehardare

[swift root]

Aller bonbon

[humble mirage]

Well... the VM is for intel... so ...

[swift root]

Raspberry PI 4 is x86_64 ?

[brisk willow]

[swift root]

lol

I use Raspberry image

[brisk willow]

Please read the instructions on the page I linked and switch hypervisors

[swift root]

Performance on others hypervisors is not optimal on macOS and parallels is the best : )

[low notch]

run debian and aarch64 image if you want to run a vm

[brittle sail]

Buy a mini pc and just don’t use a Mac

[swift root]

I love Apple and I eat Apple. And power consumption is ridiculous compare to my old Server and performance is much greater in single core compare to my olds Xeon : )

[low notch]

yes

[broken quest]

hey 🙂 my stupid brain thinks about hosting hassio on a KVM Host at home, possible with usb zigbee stick?

Thanks ❤️

better docker container or Virtual machine with the "operating system"?

Can I pipe hardware like an usb zigbee stick through a docker container?

[brittle sail]

you might prefer a PoE zigbee coordinator regardless

[humble mirage]

Better is very personal

I like Docker myself, the flexibility and control it brings

[brittle sail]

or third option, haos installed on not-your-server such as a used laptop, mini pc, nuc, etc

[broken quest]

at the moment I have hassio on a raspberry pi 4 with 2gb ram, but my main concern is the micro sd card .. you get no smart values out of it 😄 and this card is living now for 3 years .. I use it a lot and with different features, so I have a little pc (dell optiplex 3090) where I will install a unix based system for hosting virtual machines / container on it 😄

btw: im new to this discord, thanks to all of you with the fast response and help! 🫶

[brittle sail]

Yea you’d be right to be concerned with an sd card with an OS on it lol

[broken quest]

😄 still alive after 3 years

[brittle sail]

Your mini pc idea is good

[broken quest]

yeah in connection with terraform + ansible 🙂

[brittle sail]

Many people do that here and virtualize haos or run containers if they want full control

The latter is more work but ultimately same end result so you can do that

How well usb passthru works depends on your hypervisor / os of choice

You can buy a 3d printer to repurpose the old pi

[broken quest]

already have one 😄 "ender 3 something"

[blissful field]

I think mini PC is the way to go. Toss on proxmox and you can do a lot more than just HA

That’s what I did until I got a deal on a 1U

I’d advocate for prox even though it isn’t strictly necessary.

It’s nice to be able to spin up VMs with a nice UI. You can do that on a bare Linux but it requires more Qemu knowledge.

[broken quest]

i prefer terraform 😄

but yeah, I will move the hassio from the pi away and will use this as vpn entry or so .. but for this it is too strong 😄

[blissful field]

I mean, I run k3s

So, you can go up in complexity.

But there is a terraform prox provider.

The reason why I like prox is that it makes creating new VMs easy, which I highly recommend for the moment you spread out beyond just HA.

One big Ubuntu machine can be surprisingly hard to maintain once you’ve got a few services and you had to scrub one twice to try again.

And it’s fairly newbie friendly, given what it is.

[feral blade]

I have a fair bit of experience with HA but have a problem related to CPU support. I have a Dell Optiplex FX160 that runs the Intel Atom 230 and 4GB ram. It runs HA on debian supervised... no problem. But I want to run HAOS instead. I put HAOS on the SSD and it wont boot even when left over night. Latest BIOS update is installed, and fast boot is disabled in the bios. I just see the blinking underscore cursor. I see that others have gotten HAOS to boot on much newer Intel Atom chips here: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/1752

[brittle sail]

secure boot disabled?

and uefi enabled?

[feral blade]

yes, I think so

[brittle sail]

know dont think yo

[feral blade]

I dont think it has legacy bios... only UEFI? Not sure. I didnt see it in the bios menu.. Ill look now.

[brittle sail]

those two are critical for it to work

also enable boot on power

so if power outage it auto boots on power

[feral blade]

Yes boot on power is enabled

[feral blade]

Im in the bios now. What about the setting "Execute Disable Memory"? That is set to on now.

[brittle sail]

idk man i just jumped in with an easy answer that people skip

[feral blade]

Listed under security

[brittle sail]

we should bug @grand pivot he's the bios expert

not really sure man