hi. Any one here who can tell me perhaps why my code run fines on an Arduino but not on an ESP32? I thought i was able to use the same code? But it wont work. Im trying to read the IR interface of a Kamstrub meter. I was hoping to use ESPHOME so i could easy intergrate the sensor(s) into HA.
It is even possible to run the same code without adjustments on both Arduino and an ESP32?
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I am no expert but I have the ikea stuff and I dont even use the hub no more, once I got the conbee II, I added all my blinds to home assistant using the zigbee2mqtt method
the sensors I purchased were the aqara motion sensors, i got them from aliexpress, there are a few sellers were you can get 4 of them for me were 28, which is the price of 2 cheap sensors here in uk anyway.
I do search a good aroma diffuser / humidifier which can be connected to home assistant.
The issue with that is that I would lose the Google home integration, right? I like having Google Home for voice control and home assistant for automation
I am sure google home can be integrated so anything that's tied to HA is seen by google home, my amazon devices list all my home assistant ones, so if a motion sensor is setup in zigbee2mqtt (which exposes it to home assistant) it would then show up in your google device if you have it attached to home assistant. The reason I suggest zigbee2mqtt over deconz is you can add a lot of tuya devices in zigbee2mqtt too, which means a lot less costly devices.
This is only true if using Home Assistant cloud though, right? edit: nope
I’m still ok with adding automation through HA only though, should make things simpler.
So: from a « naked » installation, with no hub, what is the best way to add motion detectors to HA?
Try #diy-archived
Has anyone wired Shelly devices into US 120v AC wiring on a 20a breaker using #12 wire? I'm trying, but it doesn't seem to want to accept the wire and have the screw tighten. Will it only work with #14 wire?
Shelly isn't rated for 20A
so im trying to follow a guide to flash a s31
having trouble figuring out which bin file im supposed to get
ok i think i found the file
but now i cant get the ftdi to communicate with the s31 outlet
Yeah, I realized that shortly after asking (and leaving the house). I'm just used to wiring either 15A or 20A outlets on #12 wire. Thanks.
Oh look at this
https://a.aliexpress.com/_AsKn6n
That's a cool jig
I never got my 3d printed thing to work, so this looks perfect
The pins were just too crooked and were touching the shield/ground
i wana nab the best and easyest to use IR controller, any suggestions?
you want to send IR commands?
I've used one of these - it works great https://www.globalcache.com/products/itach/
its basically the ouput end of a universal remote, you can send hex commands to it and it will send the ir signals out to a flasher that is stuck to anything you want
@toxic dirge is that what you are looking for?
I'm trying to configure Tasmota on a nodemcu (esp8266) to talk to this liquid sensor, not sure how to configure the pin for the signal https://wiki.dfrobot.com/Non-contact_Liquid_Level_Sensor_XKC-Y25-T12V_SKU__SEN0204
anyone have any ideas?
it looks like pin 2 would go to the AO
but i only made my 1st esp8266 project earlier
lol
@radiant bane but yes that is, im trying to be able to turn on the window AC without having to get up
lazy
This setup would work for your AC, you'd just need to stick a flasher to the window like a vcr
hmmm, i wonder, is there a blaster version?
only problem is if I remember correctly the little boxes are pricey ($50 or more on ebay last I checked)
kinda wana ceiling mount 1 orb to control the whole room's IR
you mean so you don't have to wire it and it would just fire across the room? I'm not sure I have seen that
correct
i wonder if i could make one with an IR led and an ESP
lol
there are some ir controllers in there
no idea if any are what i'd want but bunch of options
so - thanks for the A0 suggestion.
When I configure A0 for "temp" I get a reading that is consistent with off/on (it says 16.5c when it detects water and some other value usually 200 c when it doesn't)
so while i can work with that in HA of course, I can't seem to find a better config setting that would just show on/off
Hi All good morning. NOt sure where to post my question but as the hardware freezes I was wonderinf if this would be the correct place. Whats the issue? For a while HA run super for a few days, left unattended but the suddenly locks up and can only be reset by hard reboot. Does anyone know why this is or does anyone have the same issue?
@drifting grove What type of hardware are you running it on?
@radiant bane Oops indeed RPi 4, 8gb internal, Argonone m.2/256gb ssd. Previously on a 128sd card but had the same issue.
wait, you can run an m.2 on a pi4?
@toxic dirge yep
any faster then the sd?
on the compute module right?
sounds like it's OOMing
@toxic dirge havent measured it but it seems faster indeed. You can even boot from it. and it should last a lot longer as it's design purpose is diff than the SD card.
have you made any changes to logging?
is it possible HA is building up a cache of logs that is too large?
I know that I had some issues when I first started to trying using the history function to track a large project I was doing, if i set it to too many days of retention it would crap out
then i switched to MYSQL and managed the database separately and it was MUCH better without any of the downsides
@radiant bane that is an idea I had too. The logging issue. I have no idea how to change that though.
if you haven't changed it then it is probably not causing it
I would set up a sensor to track memory usage and see whether there's correlation
I set mine from default which i think is maybe 3 or 5 days, to 30 days to cause the issue
ooh thats a good idea
do you know about the rpi sensor tracking project that works with MQTT/Home Assistant
?
I think I am using this: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/lovelace-raspberry-pi-status-card/213930
there's a type of sensor that can use terminal output as value
@shy river yep thats running but that doesn't show any anomolies
(on my question) I figured it out, Analog Input setting is reading 0/1 or 1024, which is perfect I can template that into on/off and I'm in business!
so the entity doesn't have ram usage increase before the lockup?
thanks @toxic dirge for the a0 thought.
@drifting grove does your home assistant config have any recurring errors in the logs?
also since it's pretty easy to fully back up and restore, have you tried erasing your entire config and running vanilla for a few days just to confirm it is not your hardware ?
it can also be the power supply, i had lockups due to a dodgy unit on pi 3
@shy river that's a good thought - I have read a lot about those issues, I usually go out of my way when picking the power supply because it can be finicky
it's the reason i picked the overpriced official pi power supply for my pi hub
(and by out of my way I mean I usually just buy the canakit because I've never had an issue with the supply they include)
at leats i know it will work reliably
@shy river no usage increase before. And indeed I have a couple of Led lights that keep filling the logs. is there a way to stop the logging of those. That would nicely fit in with the suggestion @radiant bane made
usually integrations have instructions on how to control logging
this is why a vanilla wipe for a few days would save you a lot of headache
and i think ha in general has some switch for that. i would give links but im on my phone and it's a pain
you could even disconnect the m.2 and run it off a micro sd
nothing wrong with going hunting, but make sure you are in the correct woods or you'll never catch a thing
I'm so jazzed to have a liquid sensor that is affordable ($13 + nodemcu)
this will change my entire operation
are there breakout boards that could give me multiple analog inputs for tasmota/nodemcu?
LOL@ yes there are - and I have one upstairs that I ordered last year for a project I never finished
It's 2am here, goodnight gentlemen.
@shy river the power supp is Rpi so should not be an issue. I have it hooked up to a separate Zwave socket which measures output and it shows no signs of anomolies. (that also helps in resets from outside ;-))
I'll have at look at the logging but it is a HA native integration. FLUX LED
@radiant bane Night! and thanks for your help
On a regular Pi board out of the box
using an ArgonOne Fourty M.2 case
thanx!
I used a Conbee II and use zigbee2mqtt, I found that was the easiest and allowed for a lot of tuya devices and aqara too.
Sorry for this above, it was accidentally :)
Not so related with home assistant, but does anybody knows will Sonoff R2 wifi switch work with DC ~19V ?
I mean, I know these switches are made for AC 90-250V, but I'm looking for something which will open and close circuit (switch) and what would I mount on output of laptop charger.
So I am curious are Sonoff R2 classic switches which opening and closing power circuit or there is maybe something else because they will not support DC.
thx
The conbee II is super expensive in Japan but I can get a Zigbee USB Broker for less than 10$. Is that enough for then using Zigbee-compatible devices? They're pretty cheap around here
you're looking for a Sonoff SV https://templates.blakadder.com/sonoff_SV
yes should be fine bud
you will get what you pay for and will probably replace it with a better one
but blackadder suggestion is correct, you have to remember that moving forward this will be your coordinator for the ZigBee network, best not to scrimp on this
What make the conbee II so much better?
not necessarily, you need to buy the stick for your integration
Not exactly, but thanks for the hint. Basically, looking for something which comes with genuine case (not naked board, cause of other people in my house) and something what have physical button from outside where can be turned on/off manually as well
I feel like it's a pretty basic piece of hardware and I don't see what would make a cheap one much worse, especially since Zigbee devices relay the information with the ad-hoc network, right?
don't know any specifically for DC voltage
look at pinned messages in #zigbee-archived
And do you know will R2 for AC voltage work with DC voltage?
no
Thx
yes there is a list there, I was just impressed with range on conbee II as I ordered 5 in total (different brands) and just paired one battery sensor 15 meters away for purposes of testing and the conbee was only one that had link quality over 200 for that device. (edited because mobile auto correct is a git).
lqi is a scam
it is once you add router device blackadder I agree
but I think its important for someone just adding battery devices 😛 but I could be wrong as I am only a computer hardware guy and still wet around the ears when it comes to HA
then you're doing zigbee wrong and regardless of that lqi is a scam, every manufacturer has their own ideas of lqi so those numbers don't really mean much
I had not even used a pi until I started testing smart home tech 😛 although that was short lived he he.
Oh I have routers, It was just a testing for article purposes
https://imgur.com/a/jBo9NR1 not as big as some peoples but plenty of router devices 😛
should sonoff basic switches be a bit warm?
I don't want to cause any fire hazard in my home haha
Yes, a bit warm is normal. Too hot to touch is not.
is this switch safe in general? I worry a bit about safety of such of a device
from the hardware fire safety point of view
They're pretty good. I've seen reports of two catching fire in three years (that's a lot of perfectly fine Sonoffs). Both cases were due to user fault. One was a bad modification, the other switching an inductive load the Sonoff wasn't rated for.
Does anyone know washing/dryer brands that expose a local API? I would like to firewall traffic allowing only local, but they all seem to "require" cloud connections. 😞
I don't mind having to write integrations myself, I'm just talking from a protocol perspective
But, if it's a 20A breaker, that doesn't meet NEC
Recommendations for PIR over Wifi? Maybe even a multi sensor of some sort while we're at it.
Hey there 🙂
I just read about Home Assistant and I have a few smaller questions, which maybe can be answered here 🙂
So, currently I have multiple Philips Hue lights and Amazon echo devices in my home.
I want to add some thermostates now to regulate my room heating by some schedule or triggers.
In some other discord I was told, that the Philips Hue Bridge is only supporting a protocol for lights, not smart devices in general... sooo.... My question is: How do I proceed here?
Is it possible to use Home Assistant (running locally on my Synology server or rPi) in combination with some "universal smart devices bridge" and get rid of the philips hue bridge?
Is it ok if the device that runs "home assistant" does not have wifi itself but is conencted to some bridge via ethernet cable?
And last question: I saw that home assistant let's you do almost everything ( I saw the Node red module), so it would be possible to create some mechanic to e.g. turn off all light and turn down thermostates when 2 smartphones are not "at home", right? I mean, I could at least create some mechanic that pings both smartphones inside the wifi and when they don't respond for some time, they are "away"?
Sorry for those many questions^^°
Oh, and lastly, if all of this works, are there any thermostates that you can recommend? My only criteria would be that they are able to "override" manually by turning the knobs in case of software failure^^
- if you want to use a wide variety of zigbee devices, you'll want to get a zigbee adapter and use one of the zigbee integrations found in #zigbee-archived
- it's recommended to have a wired connection on whatever machine is running HA
- yes, the automation you described would be possible either with HA's automations or node red
Guys do you know any zigbee device that gives a signal upon powering it up? I want HA to know when someon rings the doorbell
there's a zigbee doorbell sensor by sage
fair warning though--it's battery powered and doesn't report battery level lol
why it's battery powered when it is CONNECTED TO THE DOORBELL TRANSFORMER is beyond me
Yeah but the bell i want to contorl is the one below my flat, in the street. I can't put that there
ah, well that would be good to know lol
i assumed a regular doorbell with a transformer. i also assumed that those types of doorbells are used outside the US
https://adminfergal.es/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/videoportero.jpg
It's one of these, each for every neighbour. When someone rings sometimes I can't hear it in my flat. But I have the wires that power up the ringbell, so I was wondering about powering a device with that so i can control it with HA
so you have a buzzer in your unit?
y
it's probably possible to come up with something, but we'd need to know voltages and such
well im guessing its 220vac
thanks 😄
Is Zigbee supported by almost all devices? Also by Philips Hue? So, could I get rid of the philips hue bridge in total when i get a zigbee adapter?
Is Zigbee supported by almost all devices
well, no. i mentioned a zigbee adapter because you mentioned philips hue, and that uses zigbee
are there somewhat "universal bridges" that have multiple protocols/standards?
sure, there are a few hubs that support zigbee and zwave (and maybe others), but i personally just use a zigbee adapter
hmm... ok. I mean, currently I would be only using the philips hue bulbs and some thermostates that I haven't devices for yet, but I'm trying to think ahead and if there are some neat devices I want to use and they use zwave instead of zigbee, then I would rather not have one bridge for every standard, iv there are bridges that support multiple standards 🙂
@glossy prism do you have some recommendations about such multi-standard bridges?
nope, i don't use anything like that
came across these and just thinking there is no way they are zigbee despite listing saying they are due to size and cost. or has some one have them and can confirm https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002996447840.html
nowhere does it mention its wifi or zigbee or controllable
uhm... if I'm looking for a bridge that supports multiple protocols, what are the most common ones? Zigbee and zwave? or is there a third one by chance?
You really don’t want to use a multi-protocol controller. They evolve at different rates and tying them together locks you into what will eventually (or currently) be outdated tech with a painful migration process
oh.... well, that's a fair point...
Would you also not recommend getting a at least 2-protocol bridge (zigbee + zwave)? I mean, for the next years at least?
No
I don’t think any support zwave 700-series, for instance
They’re already behind
ah damn... ok, then I guess getting different bridges for each standard makes more sense :/
Did I understand it correct, that the software of the bridge, for me now, doesn't really matter, because I will use home assistant? So I don't need to fancy group or manage the connected devices inside the bridge app, I just need the bridge to connect to the devices and the home assistant app will handle the rest?
Correct
Until it's inspected. 😉
awesome 🙂 can you recommend such a zigbee bridge that's only purpose will be to connect with home assistant?
#zigbee-archived can help with that. I don’t use Zigbee
Any thoughts on what to use for a home intercom?
Is there a way to get Foscam C1 to work with home assistant ?
looks like they support RTSP (https://www.foscam.com/faqs/view.html?id=81), so yeah: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/generic/
Thanks will take a look and see if it works
oh there's a foscam integration too
Command '.foscam' was invoked by: Tediore
Gotta figure out the ip of the cam haha
googling "THING home assistant" is a good way to find if an integration exists btw
(or searching the integrations list on the HA site)
Hi all, first post here. I have searched internet, HA forum and left a Q there, but no answers yet: my HA on PI4 hangs when reset. I have attached an Arduino via USB. When I take that off, it starts. A friend suggests it has something to do with boot sequence. Any suggestions?
esp32 cams perhaps
m5stack makes them in nice battery powered cases, and you can output the video onto core 2
I don't remember if they have mics inside tho
I ended up hacking something together myself with dupont connectors
it's a mess and if the wind changes direction while i'm uploading firmware then its all over red rover
but i managed to get it to flash on the third attept
did you have any luck with the fan speed?
Is there any way to integrate this with HA?
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrnzREK or something like this that could be used?
That device in particular, probably not unless you/someone else sniffs out how the app and the device communicate, and even then, it uses bluetooth rather than wifi/zigbee/zwave. I don't have a recommendation for another device but I would probably keep looking for something that uses wifi at a minimum, best if zigbee or z-wave.
Cool, thanks for your input 👍😁
Hello, anyone can recommend wifi smart plug that works with Smart Life and Home Assistant?
On a related note, does anyone know what happened to hadevices.com?
I get a cloudflare 522 every time I try to go there
no idea but it's been down for a few months it seems
searching through https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/ is probably your best bet at this point
hadevices.com wasn't updated terribly often iirc
I guess failing that there's always hacs and manual repositories, but something that would say "works, BUT" would be nice.
Like I got those Fibaro motion detectors that work with homekit expecting seamless integrations
Except they use BLE not wifi, so I have to use my ipad as a homekit hub with automations to interact with HA
If I had realized then they were BLE I would've gotten the z-wave ones
Seems like the kind of problem that wouldn't be run into if you weren't using HomeKit.. 😄
It worked so nicely for my ecobee and vizio tv though 😅
I guess thinking about it even more I probably would've gotten Hue sensors instead.
Biggest problem with Hue stuff is the price IMO
I just didn't want to deal with the zwave setup, I have a zigbee/zwave radio...
arguments to be made about how closed off it is but it's better than it used to be
Yeah, part of the reason I went with the homekit ones is they were like $35 used vs $50 for new or hue
I'm missing out on all the cool sensors they have though
Does anyone have a suggestion for a hardware device to wake me up? I have an automation that fires if a sensor is left open for a period of time, sends TTS to google assistant devices (default volume is probably too quiet to wake me up with earplugs in), and turns lights on, but I'm kind of wondering about something a little better. Siren? Some sort of vibratory device under the mattress like some deaf people use for alarms?
You can set google speaker volumes via automations, it's what I do for my alarmo setup
open door, volume is set to 10% for the warning chime then it goes to 100% for the main siren
If you have smart shades, you can have them open to let light in, assuming you don't work night shift
Turn the lights on slowly/instantly if you have enough to make it bright enough to bother you
But I mainly use an app on my phone that won't stop until I scan two NFC tags that I have spread about.
I usually sleep with earplugs and a sleeping mask on so I don't think lights will do much, but it may go off while I'm awake as well, so I've left that in there
I think the vibratory option is probably the best then
Had my freezer door get left open one too many times 😦
oof
I put a contact/temperature sensor in my fridge, I should try one in the freezer
in the freezer will kill the battery
The fridge is certainly doing no favors to the battery of that one
I have mounted a smartthings multisensor on the door of my freezer
I guess I could mount one to the exterior and it would let me know if one or both are open
I like knowing what temperature the fridge is at though, at a glance.
Being able to see the histogram is neat, too. http://w.s3a.pw/bcaf778d.png
something mounted outside with temp sensor leads would probably work better but here's what I have: https://imgur.com/a/YRvorHh
3d printed bracket and two way tape
Ah, a thermocouple would be a good solution. My freezer already seals poorly though, I'm not sure running a wire through the seal is a great idea.
Probably, yeah. I need to source a new freezer seal myself
sort of an advantage with this setup though, you can see how often the motor is cycling when it leaks https://i.imgur.com/7cX7uoF.png
Poking around a bit, I found this project https://www.14core.com/wiring-thermocouple-max6675-on-esp8266-12e-nodemcu/
I know nothing about this particular device but https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/HUATO-External-Thermocouple-Sensor-Wireless-Zigbee_62563082677.html
It seems that I haven't bought enough random stuff on aliexpress today then
they seem to want $230/ea on thhe alibaba side of things though so maybe not that one in particular..
I wonder if any of the expensive smart fridges have some sort of alarming function if you leave the door open
Whatever one my landlord supplies dings at me if I leave a door open too long
But I think it's tied to the door switch, so if it's just a bad seal you don't get any warnings
Hilariously, the washer/dryer unit supplied by the same doesn't ding at me so I have to set a timer to remember to check if it's done.
My dryer buzzes at me but the washer doesn't, it's very annoying. But not annoying enough to try setting up a state machine in HA
I've considered a vibration detector but it's not really worth it, I do laundry once a week and if it takes me all day to do a couple loads that's fine.
the smartthings (forget who bought the hardware business from samsung) multisensor as I'm using is pretty decent for that, but it's hard to monitor something like that in HA since it looks for events and all
It's easy enough to tell my various speakers to set a timer, if I remember to do so
What I need to figure out is to sync that timer across all of them...
could probably do that in HA actually, assuming you don't get a false alarm detecting vibration
Or create a script in HA and have the speaker run it
automation to set a timer for an hour or some such upon detecting vibration, and then play alert sounds
I know I can start my light delay that way
many people seem to rely on monitoring power usage for determining when it's finished but I haven't really looked into finding a smart plug that works on 220v north american
I have a gas dryer, but I don't want to deal with smart outlets. I'm not sure where it's plugged in, to start with, and second the wiring here still uses fuses (built in the early 1940s)
oof
Suffice it to say, as much as I'd love to have energy monitoring, I want zero to do with the wiring.
I use a kasa plug on my portable air conditioner unit, it's very handy for tracking just how often it's running.. though when I have it set to 18c during the daytime while I sleep, it's running most of the time anyways.
Wow, four for $25 or one with monitoring for $21
Do you use the emulated kasa or tp-link integration?
The integration and I've thankfully never had it explode on me
though I'm aware there are Issues(tm) with the integration and all
four for $25 sounds like a clearance price, possibly some of the older HS100s that have been end of lifed
huh, wild
I wouldn't think that the consumption hardware would really add that much more cost
No, but it's a great marketing tool to increase profit margin
When I picked mine up on sale from BB they were cheaper than the non-monitoring ones but that was the previous generation of hardware anyways
:c my local best buy closed a few months into covid
Nearest one is like 3 hour drive
oof
So yeah, used to be able to just go pick stuff up or wander around to see what's new. Now it's only online and I miss that interaction
Hmm... I was thinking there's not a lot I need smart outlets for, but maybe there are... I have a few lighting panels that I can't use the remote for anymore...
wait a minute, I think it's a 2.4GHz remote. I wonder if I can make it work via HA somehow.
I use smart plugs for my home theater projector (firmware's a little iffy and sometimes it needs to be fully power cycled), my consoles (there's a bunch of them in standby), my a/c (monitoring), and my 3d printer
Guess I need to grab my SDR and scan
I use octopi and a relay for my printer
Octoprint alone was worth the price of a pi, though I could use the pi for other stuff. https://plugins.octoprint.org/plugins/psucontrol/
Plus then you can use the octoprint integration
Yep, I have that set up.. I just don't really like the idea of going down to the raw relays when smart plugs are fairly affordable and easier to use. I just leave the printer and the pi behind the smart plugs
Yeah, it's not the prettiest solution, but it does mean I don't have to wait for the pi to start up when I want to print. http://w.s3a.pw/8db88cf2.jpg
I can be uploading the gcode while the printer turns on
whats the cheapest zigbee switch I could buy to switch lights on/off? I currently have philips dimmer v2 but I want another one on other door to just switch lights on instead of having to walk to other side of the room
I see some people try not to use cloud based hardware like Tuya and move to all zigbee. Is there advantages other than # of wifi devices on the network and relience on internet for using it
zigbee/z-wave devices have great battery life, so that's another advantage
true but for smart plugs/switches they are always powered... but that is a good point for other devices
The idea is that bring local keeps your data within your reach. Also, depending upon cloud you are at the mercy of somebody else supporting your device.
I have this attic fan controller (Though it could be used to control anything up to 15 amps I think). It has an ESP32 chip on it. I would like to run ESPHome, but I am not sure how to get the firmware onto it in the first place. This is what I'm working with: https://imgur.com/a/zEUVv3Q
Any ideas?
@long charm well, here are all the pins you need at least: https://imgur.com/a/OanUorA
man, not being able to upload images is so friggin' annoying

thank u rob
definitely need to click "open original" for the uploaded photo... the compression in the preview kills the text
one potential issue though: ESP32 chips have an eFuse that, if burned, will prevent you from flashing custom firmware
not all manufacturers burn the eFuse, but it's something to be aware of. once you have it hooked up via serial, you just need to run espefuse.py --port PORT summary to check
ahh. so i might be out of luck. but lets say it wasnt locked out. but in theory, i take those pins and wire them to a serial cable?
yeah, you just need a USB-TTL adapter
if you're in the US, this is a good option: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LZV1G6K
in case you're not familiar with flashing ESP8266/32 with alternative firmware, to put it in flash mode you would do this:
Device Adapter
3V3 3V3
GND GND
TX RX
RX TX
IO0 GND
(IO0 has to be connected to GND when it's powered up)
so, on the other side of this board theres a strip of 6 holes w/ a J2 label on it. 2 of them correspond w/ the tx/rx pins you called out
just a coincidence those 6 holes are same shape/spacing (seem to be at least) to the adapter pins you shared?
It looks like a common spacing
is there any way to know if the eFuse is burned?
oh that's the espefuse.py thing you mentioned earlier
well thanks Tediore this should be enough to get me dangerous
Maybe a stupid question, but I just heard of the Matter standard.
In regards to automation, would I be better off waiting until Matter-compatible hardware gets released? Will it be a big change in the home automation market?
Someone Using ReTerminals from Seeed?
I am Searching for a good small formfactor Display with Touch and it looks good with a decent Price Tag.
https://www.seeedstudio.com/ReTerminal-with-CM4-p-4904.html
Hello guys. I have been using hassio for about 2 years at home. And a few friends started asking me to setup some automations for them. Personally I use a raspb4 with zigbee usb adapter for myself. Can anyone recommend a pain free budget device combo. I wanna ditch the sd card if possible because of the r/w failure, and use an LTE adapter so it wouldn't rely on their WIFI. Any advice?
What is your idea of "budget" price?
Pretty much any second hand mini PC from the last decade would do - it just needs to be 64 bit (so, careful with Atom), with at least 2 CPU cores, 2 GB of RAM, and 32 GB of storage
and for the LTE compability?
Well, LTE adapter will need OS support, but there's various internal and USB options
Or you can use an LTE router and not worry about it
thanks a lot
Hey so im trying to integrate my "smart meter" into homeassistant. My power supplier supports zigbee devices that have "Smart Energy Profile 1.1 Standard" Does anyone know any compatible Zibgee usb adapters?
#zigbee-archived could help
Didnt notice it.. thank you haha
Does anyone know if "Innu smart WiFi light bulbs" can be integrated in HA? I am aware that the "Innu smart Zigbee light bulbs" can be managed (via a Zigbee coordinator / ZHA etc)
Looking for some advice. I have only 1 device left to migrate from the SmartThings platform over into HA. Its a SonOff TH-16 with temp probe. I flashed it with what believe to be a custom fork of Tasmota. It reports version "version":"2.0.5", "date":"May 23 2019 13:28:09"
So of course the TasmotaAdmin integration doesnt understand the reply. While it was only a few bucks, does anyone know what version of official tasmota FW would flash without bricking?
Xiaomi one looks solid, but haven't tried it yet
So my HA Blue seems to have died on me at some point during the day..
trying to netcat to 8123 results in either no route to host or connection refused..
More of a #330990055533576204 question
ah, yeah that seems reasonable. Thanks!
Anyone find a smart outlet that's 20amp rated? Trying to automate a pool filter system
Trying to get onboard bluetooth working with the haos_generic-x86-64-6.5.img but I am getting bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware load for qca/rampatch_usb_00000302.bin failed with error -2 from dmesg, I tried to wget the firmware files to the needed folder but they disappear after rebooting - is there something I need to do in order to get the files to stay?
temp sensor question, does DHT11 usually need to be scaled a lot? currently showing -12C but it's 21-22 in the house by the thermostat
DHT11's aren't super accurate but they're not as bad as you are seeing. Usually just +/- 1 to 2°C
i'll have to flash an arduino and test with it, i can't figure out how to get it to not report -11c or so in HA, ugh
Trying to grab a z-wave stick/hub, wondering if this is a good option (it's description yells spooky stuff about "expert computer knowledge"), or if someone's got a better suggestion for plugging into my blue. Budget not an issue, I'm in the US and don't have much of a setup yet besides a Blue and some Philips bulbs.
For Z-Wave you want something of the 700 series - a search of the #zwave-archived channel (or a question posted there) can probably help, but ISTR the Aeotec stick is currently believed to be the best
Many thanks! I'll pick one up.
Heyy, so i already have HUE system & bridge connected to my HA, i was wondering, can i use only HA+HUE to add lets say new hue lights or ikeas trpdfri lights or am i still in need of hue app to set up new lights (and ikea app for ikea lights)? If i'd like to ditch any other apps than HA woiuld i need to get a zigbee dongle to use my things like ii described; nothing but HA for set up and use.
I.e. rasbee or some dongle. Recommendations for good dongles in EU (Finland for more precise) is appreciated!
not sure if the right place to ask, but can I keep a power bank permanently plugged in as a sort of usb charger? I'm aware it would damage the cells over time and make them not last as long, just wondering if there's any actual fire hazard that can arise
Anyone know where the cheapest place to buy Lutron Caseta switches is?
so glad I moved my system to dedicated setup... bloody crap QNAP I am going to batter this thing with a hammer when I replace it.
I tried a RPI but that was unreliable, then thought about deploying on my Syn-920, but ultimately realized I have an old laptop annd thats proving to be golden
So to answer my question. It bricked. Will need to re-flash real FW
ah, they stupidly released a all singing dancing firmware that has un mounted the raid arrays twice and they have to remote in to fix it lol going to beat it with a hammer soon (of course after I remove the 4 hdd from it).
i might just build my own I have a 8 core and a 28 core xeon sitting in the drawer
Hey, is it possible to take an HA rpi4 backup and restore it on a odroid n2+?
Yes
ok, then it just takes much time. It`s 1 GB big and I only have a SD card in my n2+, yet
I am in the process of replacing the classic gas central heating with IR panels 700 - 1000W by panel and now I am looking for good smart thermostats I need 9 of them to cover all the rooms do you have any recommendations?
Any suggestions for smart switches (for the lights)? Im struggling to find anything other LightwaveRF that actually has a full range as I need 1 and 2 gang options plus dimmer / non dimmer options. Any suggestions before I go for the lightwave parts? They are just insanely expensive.
Im in the UK (cant seem to find lutron stuff here, maybe im just blind) and currently running mostly Zigbee stuff but im not set on using that specifically.
Yeah but brands? Ive looked and finding two gang dimmers is not too easy!
There's lists of known working hardware pinned in #zigbee-archived
Lightwave doesnt seem too bad to get hold of but hub + sockets is insane
Including modules to fit behind existing switches
Yeah ive flicked through the Z2M supported list and the samotech ones seem to fit the bill but they are only single gang
I guess I could stick two of them in but they wouldnt fit in the backbox so idk! And at that point its almost the price of lightwaveRF dual gang dimmer!
oh damn, they updated that page to be way more user friendly
Had another look and there arent any 2 gang dimmers! Only relays. Guess the only option is to put two boxes in (and who knows where ill put the second one) or go for LightwaveRF
FWIW my powerbanks don't allow this. They don't simultaneously charge and discharge. YMMV.
Mine do
Xiaomi 10kmah ones do
Though I figured I can use a smart switch to cycle charge it
are there any home theater receivers that allow an absolute volume level to be directly set (instead of sending vol- and vol+ commands) either via an integration or ir?
Yamaha does. I have never actually tried the media_player.volume_set service, so I just did from the developer tools. Worked as expected.
I was in the same boat as you Ed tbh, and ended up wiring my switches up (due to the single live no neutral thing we have going on in the uk) so ended up with all smart bulbs with aqara 3 gang switches (battery ones) and wires wired permanently live.
I’m in a relatively modern house so actually have neutrals to the boxes! The issue is just finding a switch that actually has two gang dimming!
if you want really nice switches you should go for std ones (dimmer type with slide) and then use moes zigbee 2 gang, I know someone who uses them behind their switch and they fit in the boxes and they have a new build.
https://bit.ly/3lX4p8f these are the ones, click images 2 find 2 gang dimmer ones.
by going to in wall switches you can basically use any outer you want and will still work out cheaper than light wave
Hey. is there a universal device that can learn/copy radio remotes? For example for blinders, garage door etc?
Broadlink rm4 pro does ir and rf. Not sure what you mean by radio remotes though.
It’s range is obviously limited to ir and rf though.
Any Lutron Caseta users in here? I need some advice.
Hany know if its a third party lte module? Em7455 I got original on ebay, but I don’t think it will come. I will repurpose the laptop to a homelab with some ram and gpu kick
Hello I have a question configuring my Yeelight for LAN-mode. I have blocked from internet access in my TP-LINK access control rule management and have LAN-mode enabled for each of the bulbs. They all show up as 'device offline' in the Yeelight app at all suggesting LAN communication is prohibited somehow. Is this normal behaviour?
Do they still work in HA?
Hi thanks for your reply. I want to transition to HA at some point but would like to block their internet access for the time being. The weird thing is, I can still control them using my pre-defined profiles (so they are not LAN domain blocked) but not individually through the "Devices" tab as they appear offline there.
I'd connect them to HA and see if you can control them. If you can, I wouldn't worry about it then
Bit random, but has anyone heard of a way to control Aurora Aone Bluetooth light bulbs via scripts? ( they're bluetooth only, no zigbee or wifi)
There is a phone app, but it's horrendous
I've seen that the Ikea Tradfri motion sensor can now be paired directly to the Ikea gateway and then be exposed to HomeKit.
I've searched about its compatibility with Home Assistant but can't seem to find clear evidence:
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/ikea-tradfri-motion-sensor-and-shortcut-button-to-home-assistant-after-the-latest-firmware-update/283420?u=haffisi
Anybody knows about the status of the integration?
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/tradfri/#known-limitations
👆 I guess this means this integration is not supported yet?
Hi! Does anyone have any experience with door closers?
I've given up on educating my wife to close the door 🤣
IIRC it's a ZigBee device and you can pair those directly to HA via ZHA integration
But you need a good stick with up-to-date firmware
I suggest the January 2021 one, not the latest July, I had bad experience with it
i think they communicate via Xiaomi Miio protocol which does works locally
though for some reason i see there's a separate HACS integration for those
I have some Xiaomi devices and while you can control them locally, they behave kind of funky when they can't connect to the internet
Like, there's a substantial lag between actions
it varies from device to device because miio protocol is not standardized at all
yeah I have their humidifiers too and those work ok with blocked internet
the yeelights are offline in the app because as far as the app is concerned they are, despite lan control being on the cloud servers can't see them
If I were you I would consider Shelly dimmer units instead, they are wi-fi but they have better build quality and are UL cerified
and are rated for 16 amps and not 10 amps like these moes and other chinese ones. if there's a short curcuit the switch will fail before the circuit breaker can kick in, if it's rated for higher than 10
and they typically are
I just ordered a moes as Shelly don’t have a 2 gang. 10 amps is plenty as it’s all LEDs
weird, I thought Shelly Dimmer 2 supports 2 gang
it has 2 switch terminals on the diagram. but i have never installed dimmers
it is for normal load but in a situation whete there is a short circuit in the lights, the dimmer unit will fail before the circuit breaker, because it's rated for lower amps, which may start a fire
Plus some of the Chinese vendors sometimes like to overstate what their products are rated for
If I were you I wouldn't install it in a place where it might start a fire (behind a dry wall etc)
And if you have home insurance, in an event of a fire, the insurer may refuse a payout if you used a device like that
It’s single circuit only sadly
It seems to have all the regulatory marks etc so should be fine - Shelly is all made in China too
Yes but the design is east european and because EU is one of their main markets, they design their products with EU regulations in mind, to pass which you need to be certified by a regulatory body
if you're talking regulatory stuff like CE - those certifications are self appointed
meaning you can just slap the marking onto the product yourself and claim that it meets CE standard
anyone know much about led's and phillips hue? im not quite to the HA integration piece yet. but im trying to figure out if i can use phillips hue (and home assistant) with non phillips branded lights
how exactly do you want this strip of leds and a Phillips hue bulb to interact exactly
also which Phillips hue bulbs
dont want to use the phillips hue bulbs. just the software and the hub thinger
they seem to have the best software, etc...
and seem to integrate well with things
it's really not the best software
you can usually avoid Phillips hue and other hubs and control stuff directly from home assistant
ok well lemme back up. im wanting to add some ambient lighting, and some automation type stuff, using some led strips, and some other devices
especially if you're going to DIY an led strip and a smart controller for them
i ordered those led strips above
and im trying to figure out what to use for a controller
its all a bit grey to me, and im tryin to connect the dots
did you order just the led strips or a controller for them as well
no controller yet. thats what im trying to figure out what to order, in terms of the controller
i do have an arduino, and various pi's
just not sure how much effort it is to diy the controller, and what limitations i have vs an out of the box solution.
i think thats why i asked about the hue hub. i think i assumed it was a controller itself
I would research something like "home assistant led strip controller" and go from where. but in any case you should aim for direction communication between Home Assistant and the LED strip. no vendor hubs like Phillips Hue etc, i doubt they even support something like that
Ive never researched the topic but I've seen that Tasmota has led stuff implemented in it. So my guess is that an ESP32 or ESP8266 may be used as a controller
or part of the controller
so i would use those terms in your research
i am quite confident there is lots of material on that out there
@gloomy dawn
yea theres lots of material
not quite the "drinking from a fire hose" gif i wanted. but its what i got
So with the release of the rtsp firmware for wyzecam v3 I have started add my cams to home assistant and also using the ffmpeg motion functionality to create motion sensors. It's seems that this functionality uses a decent amount of CPU, as I am constantly at 70% CPU on my raspi 3b+. So I am guessing to continue this I really should migrate my install to some heavier hardware. What's recommended to be able to have camera motion sensors for about 6-10 camera?
Thanks, good to know. I thought I was going crazy. I will hook em up to HA soon!
Is this the right place to ask about HA glow?
Depends on the regulation but there are major penalties for non compliance. Either way self certification or not it’s sufficient for insurance purposes and they are rated for 100W while my most power hungry circuit is 36W max.
There is significantly more to it than that but basically 😝
i was simplifying ofc
I bought one (since they’re cheap) which I intend to use as test one (not in the walls). I will probably tear it apart to have a look what’s going on inside
My main sissy’s with Shelly is that even if I could get a double they are also WiFi only which is a blow
is it a big issue in your living space? i assume it's large and thus coverage kind of sucks
WiFi? Yeah and no. My WiFi is patchy as hell but it’s on the radar as something to sort as ap placement is current terrible. Hopefully in time it will be better.
I prefer zigbee as it’s imo much more reliable and manageable
make sure you to test the channel range for interference and pick something less congested than the default channel 15
here it is REALLY congested
Eh it’s more that my AP is rammed in a cupboard 😂
I prefer zigbee as I already have a ton of zigbee stuff so have a good mesh and I find them easier to manage than having to go through a billion different web uis
I need something that can alternate current 0-10v that works with zigbee ? Does anyone know something that helps ? It comes to my aircondioner and the corresponding voltages are
0 0,20...1,25 VDC
1 1,75...2,25 VDC
2 2,75...3,25 VDC
3 3,75...4,25 VDC
4 4,75...5,25 VDC
5 5,75...6,25 VDC
6 6,75...7,25 VDC
7 7,75...8,25 VDC
8 8,75...10,00 VDC
Is there any smart plug that is now most recommended to work with HA? I was going to get some more TP plugs, but it seems like support has dropped or will be dropped for them?
Zigbee or zwave ones would be solid choices since they're local by their very nature
Otherwise, the sonoff s31 is a good choice and is easily flashable with tasmota (requires disassembly, but it's easy to do and no soldering is required for flashing)
any z devices that youd recommend? and are you aware of docs for flashing the s31? Im guessing there some cable needed to do so as well
Ok, thanks
Would you recommend flashing the wifi version of the s31 rather than using the s31 lite zigbee?
@glossy prism
and does flashing remove any features from the device, like energy monitoring?
because if a flashed s31 doesnt have the features of the s31, than im not sure why not just use the zigbee ones.
It's up to you. Tasmota is nice, and no, it doesn't remove any features; if anything, it adds features. The zigbee version doesn't have energy monitoring though @gusty dust
If you do want energy monitoring, make sure to not buy the S31 lite
Does anyone have suggestions for an outdoors air quality sensor i can mount outside my house
it can be wired
Obviously compatible with HA
We have people with coal heating in our neighborhood and I just want to know when I should close the window before i feel that wretched cheap coal smell
ther nearest air quality station in my town is just too far away to give accurate readings
The 1920s are rough
Is it correct that there is currently no possibility to integrate the tapo power socket P110?
it's very cheap actually
i live in a coal rich region
and even then they buy like, the cheapest unrefined, brown crap
and it smells DREADFUL
can't be good for the lungs
there's just no gas heating and electrical heating is very expensiv
@crimson sparrow isn't that tp-link stuff
maybe it will work with kasa smart integration
I just tried https://github.com/fishbigger/HomeAssistant-Tapo-P100-Control The switch seems to work for now. Dont know if the power measurement will work, too?
Something like:
sensors:
# TP Link Steckdose
switch_steckdose1_ampere:
friendly_name_template: "{{ states.switch.steckdose1.name}} Strom"
value_template: '{{ states.switch.steckdose1.attributes["current_a"] | float }}'
unit_of_measurement: 'A'
shouldnt work or am I wrong?
The switch is configured as:
switch:
platform: tapo_p100_control
ip_address: 192.168.x.x
email: email@gmail.com
password: Password123
anyone can recommend any multi-zone WiFi addressable led strips, something that work with tasmota or esphome maybe
?
i am interested to be able to have multiple colors at once
not the hole strip blue or red etc
Seconded. I'd look at SK6812 strips though, the white led is a nice addition
Can anyone recommend god affordable white smart bulbs e14 and e27.
Tradfri
Thanks!👍
Is there a list of recommended devices to get started with home assistant? Ie sensors, lights, switches. Don’t wanna buy devices that don’t work good or at all.
Xiaomi ZigBee devices, IKEA tradfri bulbs, esp devices
Just works
Everything local control
None of that cloud bullcrap
Sweet I will look into those. I bought a bunch of smart lights last year and kinda regretted it since they are always connected to the cloud and have issues with the app
Which ones?
Mostly any tuya or smart life plug or bulbs can be opened and flashed to be local control with tasmota
I have one Tuya and the rest are actually smart life. I did see that they might be able to be flashed, but did not want to break them at the time trying to do it. I should at least try one lol
It's easy
I have one of these cables are the headers and voltages good for me to use it on those https://www.adafruit.com/product/954
Yeah I have $1 usb TTL serial adapters I use
And just temp solder or tape connectors while flashing
Is it .1 Dupont pins?
On the tuya devices? Vary, on my TTL device yes
that's not exactly true anymore
its mostly the opposite
Yeah I was curious about the tuya I'll look for one of those databases to see what I can flash
most new Tuya devices carry an incompatible wifi module
@zealous dune even with physical connection?
Ah
Yeah I've heard of those
I've not seen none myself
Opened one I bought a few months ago
you can replace the module but that's a higher skill level process
Still esp
tuya's developer site doesn't even offer any ESP modules as a hardware choice for months now
Is this the appropriate channel to ask questions about configurations of hardware (devices) or is this deeper talk (boards, sensors, etc)?
Is z-wave plus worth an extra $120+ for a lock in your opinion
I might not been in the right place. I am trying to get home assistant up and running and looking for the best way to do this. I also want to make a plex server in a NAS. I am trying to first determine what is the best hardware and if I need two different pieaces of hardware to run each os or can home assitent be run on the NAS with my plex server?
@umbral owl it can via docker container
but be careful you might want to add zigbee, z-wave sticks
make sure your nas suports them
also for your plex server make sure your nas will support hw acceleration for videos
just my 2 cents
in fact via docker container you can do both on a nas, if the nas supports: docker, usb sticks for zigbee and z-wave and bluetooth (if you want to use any of this) and supports hardware accelerated videos
you dont need to flash tuya devices, if you use zigbee2mqtt and a zigbee adaptor 90% of tuya devices can be picked up by zigbee2mqtt https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_devices.html and also ZHA integration supports most of them too
if your nas is good enough and supports it I would suggest home assistant os via VM, much more customizable and easier experience
Since I've never seen a tuya device with ZigBee, I would not agree, they might have a ZigBee range but 100% of products I've seen are WiFi 
https://imgur.com/gallery/zkQGKU7 and just do a search on aliexpress for zigbee, you will see plenty of tuya zigbee devices
where the hell do i find a 24 VAC power brick?
aliexpress acts like i've made them up
for what
you want it to power them all as with 24VAC (dont put space in any search :P) I would always work out total amps
I would also just search on amazon too to be honest, if amp is low cheap as chips 🙂
if you want to zigbee it, just get a plug for for it
i've got a sonoff 4ch pro for the controller
i wouldn't rely on zigbee as far as i could comfortably throw it 🙃
i have an old irrigation controller i've never used, i'll just jag the power supply from that to test
even searching '24VAC' isn't yielding any useful results
Try '24V AC plug pack'. I got mine from my local electronics store (Jaycar). I only turn one solenoid on at a time and it was sufficient for that. https://www.jaycar.com.au/24vac-1a-unregulated-power-supply-bareends/p/MP3032
Anyone have tips on a ZigBee wall switch to replace the ordinary lamp switches? I am getting sick of guests killing my smart lamps by cutting their power. Preferably touch and globally accessible!
be careful with the switches you choose, if you get the wrong one, switch going off will kill power to the bulb, which can lead to a lost connection of bulb I am not 100% experienced with it, but have tried some mains switches that killed power to bulb
I just ended up permanently living all my smart bulb switches and screwing a aqara 3 button over all the holes
Not sure that can happen if the switch is not connected to the wall socket? On the other hand i need to connect the wires so that is is always on and feeding electricity to the lamp
I think there are two types. Pure wireless where it is like an ikea switch but in a wall. The other is where it's physically connected but uses a relay so you can turn on even if the switch is off. May be wrong. There are absolutely switches available that allow you to use both HA and the physical switch regardless of the state. (I wont give you any examples as I've not bought any yet, only researched them)
Any suggestion for microphone for pi? I tried two. One 'conference type' usb mic, that one didn't work. And one lavalier type 3.5mm jack and usb sound card. That one worked but only when talking directly into it which is not very useful for voice control
The PlayStation Eye camera for the PS3 can be had for about $15, and works very well as a USB microphone.
I found it on ebay for 5 pounds, might as well try it!
Hi everyone.
Im wondering if someone can point me in the right direction:
i have a garden hut to which i have pulled a network cable (for a security camera) and have a littel POE switch in there too.
i would like to monitor the temperature (and ideally the humidity!) in the hut. Im thinking the best way would be some kind of IP thermometer which reports the temperature to HA.
i found something like this that could work (i think): https://sklep.inveo.com.pl/en/monitoring/95-nano-temp.html
but it seems expensive for what it is (100 euro). would there be a cheaper way to do this?
You could easily use a esp32 with ethernet port and sensors connected to that I guess
mmm ok. would be my first esp32 project.. ill see if i can learn how to do it
would this be the right board:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001122992446.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.de55654eOjPNRQ&algo_pvid=c36c7468-a391-46fe-b322-29fe4e481d4e&algo_exp_id=c36c7468-a391-46fe-b322-29fe4e481d4e-0&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"10000014557692201"}
with this kind of thermemeter:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32811388557.html
thanks
Looks reasonable to me, add a 3d printed enclosure and you are golden
hi ! I would like to set up an integration which is triggered by an interphone handset ringing
using the local wifi
any suggestions ?
I mean more specifically make an integration which provides automations triggers
some kid of binary sensor triggered by the handset ringing
thank you at @fringe moon will give it a try!
the aqara stuff connects pretty well tbh, I have had a temps sensor and door sensor in my shed for over 6 months and its both have only just dropped below 80% battery (but that was with aqara hub, only just connected 2 ha 3 months ago)
thanks @valid frigate - i guess i would need the hub so would make price about the same as the unit i found. but will keep it in mind!
nope mine our now connected to zigbee2mqtt since i started using HA
ideally withut soldering, I was imagining something I could plug the handset into that connects in line
but searching for "smart interfone handset" just brings back results for smart doorbells, smart video porters etc, which is not what I am looking for
I think I have replaced 3 batteries in over 2 years of using aqara sensors
anybody here done anything like that ?
what do folks recommend for lighting automation? is it better to do a zigbee switch (i'm running zha) or get wifi bulbs? i just want something that will turn the bulb off if the light has been left on a certain amount of time (say 5-10 minutes)
On 30+ devices
ZigBee for bulbs and sensors @long charm I control all rooms individually as needed
And dim my lights throughout the day
yep I just added replaced a lot with the aqara ones (door, temp and motion).
since I started ha 3 months ago I also replaced all house light switches with the aqara opple ones
why not both ?
Zeb
that's what I am doing - then just set everyhting up thru automation
easy enough to wire it into one smart swith then cut the wire when you change the bulb
ok so w/ a smart bulb of some kind, on a dumb wall switch, what happens if you turn the bulb off via home assistant, and then someone goes and flips the wall switch? bulb stays off?
I permanenly wired the cables in the wall and stuck battery aqara switches in there place 🙂 so no dumb switches left lol
i think a switch may be better for this specific use case (my wife keeps leaving the laundry room light on)
if you have dumb bulbs, use a wire, if you have smart bulbs, dont
We never touch the wall switches
I put in all smart switches anyway, even for the dumb bulbs
you only need to wire it one and then you can set up virutal prallelism
All rooms that aren't occupied turn their lights off after 15 minutes
sitches are more flexible - you cn use them for both dumb and smar bulbs
ok, for wall switches, is there a really good switch i should look at for zigbee? (i'm looking at https://zigbee.blakadder.com/switches.html and there are a ton of choices)
i have an enbrighten switch today and it seems to freak out periodically and requires me to go out to the electrical panel and flip the whole circuit to reset
anybody have a suggestion for my interphone idea ?
all my wall switches were removed, wires permanently connected and the aqara wireless ones put in place
the idea is basically if I am listening to loud music or such, I might not hear it
so some kind of visual indicator would be cool
Anything can be used as a visual indicator
salsaman, just set up automation for lightbulb to flash if doorbell is rung
Smart tv, smart bulb, smart amplifier
whats an esp ?
Small programmable thing
you mean like an inline switch ?
is that wifi ?
Yes
cool ! you have alink for that please ?
AliExpress
There has been at least a dozen different projects that do what you want here before
Should be in the forums too
And on Google
that is pretty much what I was looking for, though I was hoping there would be something specifically geared to phone connectors
right...but what's the part number of that imaage ?
Esp d1 mini
great !
at least noiw I know where to begin looking
Or bigger with a nodemcu
the main thing I was trying to figure out was whether I would need a specific handset, or if I could create a generic solution...well that is good to knwo !
Depends on the intercom
pall the ones I have ever encountered work exactly like normal telephones
If it just goes high (5v etc) when it rings, it's easy
@valid frigate thanks for the info on teh aqara. not sure how to make that work because i would need to put a zigbee2mqqt receiver in my garden hut (its quite far from the main house where my HA server is)
the handsets are interchangeable at least
cool, so it would just be a constant higher voltage ? is that it ?
you dont, my shed door sensor actually paired to the main device over 20 meters away 😮
or is there a separate wire for the ringer ?
Depends
You need to find the manual
fair enough
one more dumb question. single rocker vs double rocker - whats the difference?
just means you can wire 2 lights to it vs 1?
@valid frigate i'll give it a try!
zeb: not sure about that, but a couple of things I learned - if you want (dumb) lamps to be controlled in parallel you need a different kind of switch
get them from aliexpress much cheaper, I paid 38GBP for 4 of the motion sensors. (but there are bundles on there too that more savings can be had).
also if installing smart switches they pretty much all need a neutral wire
yeah i am looking at these aqara ones that have an option for neutral or no neutral. i need to pop off the existing wall plate and check
$39.99 for a zigbee switch feels kinda spendy to me
not sure how it would work without a neutral, mostly you need that so the switch board stays powered up even with the lights off
maybe a battery or something
yeah i think thats how it works. it basically always keeps the switch on
oh crap. i wonder if this makes it more complicated. the circuit has 2 dumb switches on it now, one upstairs and one downstairs. does this even work w/ smart switches?
Lots of smart stuff work without neutral
at least with the ones I have
you just connect the light to one switch then use automation to link the other switch to cotrol the first one
but it requires both switches to be smart?
the bad side is yes you need neutral, the good side is you dont need wiring between the switches
so now im in $80 just to have my laundry room light turn off after a few minutes
how is that
just automate it to do it in HA
zbe: why not just put in a dumb switch with a timer ? lol
the ceiling light is wired to two different wall switches today. both dumb switches.
the kind where you twist the knob
you dont need a switch for that, just buy a cheap hive or osram smart bulb and connect to zha or zigbee2mqtt
blank off the switches and put a smart battery button on top of one of them
30 dollars max dont worry how the covers look its the laundry room 😛
bulb might be the way to go then
if you dont need to switch it on, only switch it off then it doesnt matter if somebody switches it off manually
Smart bulb > smart switch for me anytime
Then add wireless smart switches as needed
If needed
I mostly just use motion and door sensors
sure, until somebody switches it off at the all
*wall
Not really an issue, we never switch them off, and none of my guests seem to do either
what do you like for wifi lightbulbs?
not with zigbee local your not
if either my zigbee controller or wifi router goes down, my automations are out, but probably in that case my power is out anyway
dont really understand all that zigbee stuff - is it similar to bluetooth ?
I know its all over radio
and all i want to do is if someone turns the light on, to automatically turn it off after 10 minutes
yes zeb, so smart bulb and automation
seems kind of old fashioned to me
or a cheap switch
my understanding is that zigbee devices can operate for a long time on a small battery, so its good for things like contact sensors, temp/humidity sensors, where you just need periodic small bits of data
ah makes sense I suppose
ZigBee is also mesh
zigbee is low powered so yes last a long time
Which wifi devices does not
I am not sure whther its a genral thing, but it seems like it has one big limitation - the switches I have seem to use something like that to communicate between devices
but if you try to set up one button to control other buttons on the same unit, it goes crazy
I guess it doesnt work if you try to transmit and recieve from the same place
Doesn't happen very often, close to never if you do it right
is that a general limitation ?
What is?
not being able to transmit and receive with the same device
It isn't a real life limitation for me at least
I had the idea that on boards with multiple switches, I could make one button activat5e all te others
Things happen instantaneous here, and all my stuff is adjusted throughout the day
the only way to do it is to have activate a button on another switch board then have that second button ping back
just curios, thats all
whether it is specific to this device or to all devices
thx for the input on this stuff. im gonna try some cheap wifi bulbs and see how i like them.
good luck zeb !
for $7 seems fairly low risk
oh btw zeb: you can also get smart light sockets
you can screw a dumb bulb into them and it becomes a smart bulb
maybe check that out too
i dont have room in the fixture in this case, but yeah ive seen those
could work out even cheaper
OK thanks for the tips ! I also need to get going
nice chatting
every page on wall mounted tablet has a switch that controls brightness and on off for all lights in the room
I usually pay $8-12 for IKEA CT bulbs depending on if they are on sale or not
I didn't even think to check jaycar 🤦♂️
that's perfect
Question regarding Tuya. If the device is in the list (https://templates.blakadder.com/), it is Tuya compatible and will work with the Tuya integration? I've been down the Tasmotizer route, to keep it out of the cloud, and have been frustrated by the chip and firmware upgrades preventing my hack attempts.
Tasmota Supported Devices Repository
So, nothing to do with the Tuya integration I'm afraid
That is frustrating.
Buy something that's designed for local control instead then... 
I will take the plunge and will convert most of the house to E27 from B22 fittings. I ordered a heap of Ikea lights and a ConBeeII.
I was finally in a house with one type of light fitting.
I don't mind tinkering to get a result. I haven't had any luck with my Tasmota globe selection. Four different cheap globes and no luck.
With a modern TI coordinator and Zigbee2mqtt there is no tinkering
I see there are some popular blueprints to speed things up.
Eh, I've never had use for any blueprint yet
As a bonus, the Ikea globes, I ordered, come with a shortcut button for the same price as a globe. I didn't even know I wanted a short cut button. But there is a blueprint for that so I will see what it does.
The IKEA light remote is very nice. 5 buttons, and you can bind to long presses to for a total of 10 events you can hook into
Hello, is it possible to integrate the new Aqara E1 door sensors into Home Assistent using a Deconz ConBeeII stick? Or are they unsupported yet?
#zigbee-archived would be able to help - keep in mind it's the Zigbee integration you use that matters, as explained in the channel topic there
Ok. Thx. I will have a look in the correct channel.
Is there a smart "plug" that detects power state change on that receptacle? I am looking for this as a work around to lacking a neutral wire in a three way switch setup. My bedroom pair of switches work on one plug on one receptacle. All I want is **instant ** notification that the receptacle has changed power state so HA can act on that event.
Energy monitoring smart plug
It would be even better if that smart plug could provide power either way, the receptacle has one switched and one always on plug in it.
Sonoff S31 (not the Lite version) is a good choice and is easily flashable with tasmota or ESPHome for local control
Wouldn't it take a while to connect to wifi then transmit it's power state? Remember I want to know when the plug is turned off too.
How does it get power when the plug is off?
Yeah I see the issue lol
With Tasmota at least, stuff goes unavailable pretty quickly when losing power
Lemme just confirm that
I want to know immediately.
i'm not sure you're going to find something that will work like that
I wonder if I can fit an Aeotec Nanoswitch into a 6 outlet plug adaptor
likely not
sounds like you really just need a no-neutral 3-way switch, but i'm not sure if that exists. i know no-neutral single pole switches/dimmer exist, but not sure about 3-way
is it possible practical to pull a neutral wire to one switch location?
Of course it's possible I just don't want to have to do drywall repair and paint.
well i meant without opening up the wall such as if your wiring is in conduit (like mine is)
No I have no conduit. It's not required by code so no builder around here would do that.
there, correction
🙂
What is the smallest Nanoswitch like product? That one is 20mm deep, that sounds too big.
Or are there smart receptacles that have a switched input similar to how normal receptacles can have the hot input separated?
Any recommendations for lawn irrigation controllers that play nice with HA ?
Looking at setting up a temperature sensor to control a small space heater on a smart outlet. Looks like the most common suggestion is a Aqara temp sensor and a USB Zigbee receiver. Is this what y’all would suggest?
I found a couple old Sonoff devices in a box, Sonoff S20 and sonoff basics. I followed the guide on tasmota https://tasmota.github.io/docs/Getting-Started/#flashing and flashed them all successfully. However only the basics work properly (green flashing light and creates an ap). The S20 on the other hand does not flash or create an AP. I've redone the flashing successfully multiple times but still the same issue. Does anyone have an idea of what is wrong?
I’m building my own from a Sonoff 4CH Pro
Why?
Hey guys, I would like to replace my Arlo cam environment. I need wifi cams (with direct power supply or battery, doesn’t matter). Any advice besides reolink? What works best with HA?
I mean the Sonoff one is quite cheap and works.
I use Gardena and it works really well.
Nice. I've heard of Rachio... any idea how it compares?
Can someone explain the point of smart radiator valves to me? Are they just a way of turning the radiators on / off in a room and setting a temp limit?
What happens if it’s say 16 deg in a room and the target temp is 20 deg but the heating is off - do the valves need a way to trigger the heating system?
Radiator valves, usually called TRVs, are more popular in Europe then the US. They allow heating control of individual rooms. They also generally are used in place of a "whole house" thermostat, and hot water constantly flows in the system and the valves open and close, or adjust flow at the radiator. Checkout this article. https://www.smarthomepoint.com/smart-radiator-valves/
lookin for motion sensor recomendations
what protocol @toxic dirge ?
open to ideas
i have the nortek dongle so i got zigbee and zwave
also looking for a good actual bulb rgbw bulb set to flash tas onto but thats a whole different thing
trying to find bright as fuck ones
i like the third gen iris zigbee motion sensors
as far as flashable bulbs... what form factor?
normal us socket
and like any size really they are open old school light sockets
they would fit big bulbs
just figure we NEVER use them so swapping them for rgbw bulbs which we could dim, we would totally use
well, athom has some preflashed options, but if you're looking for cheaper (and more work), these are flashable with tas with full disassembly: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08BJNVHN5
i have photos on digiblur's discord server (not sure if you're familiar with him)
also eventually i want my pc to control them to make the whole room light up red for stupid shit
im not
im fine with opening up and soldering
all about cheapness so i could afford more ya know, lol
i'll grab the photos and descriptions, one sec
i was pleasantly surprised with the max brightness
i don't dim them though, so i haven't tried that
word i mean if you like them though, thats 1 heck of a deal
i assume the flashing wasnt tooooo hard
remove plug at the bottom (razor blade works well here--watch your fingers!)
remove screw base (channel locks adjusted to just the right width helps here; twist while pulling outward)
pry up between the LED PCB and body of the light
money shot! easy to use a jig
do note that the colors for line and neutral are reversed. white is line, black is neutral. the silkscreen on the board reflects that
reassemble by following these directions in reverse, obvi
unfortunately this is what it's come to as far as finding stuff that's flashable with tas. some stuff is still tuya-convertable, but that's rare, and tuya has been moving away from ESPs entirely
i mean if it means ripping things apart im fine with that as long as it's still possible
and then just hook up the pins as normal for that chip?
yep
i assume solder to the top part of the pads
or use a jig if you have one
i do not
oh no shit, the merkury ones are flashable?
those are at my local walmart
maybe
yeah
should anything that cant be OTA anymore, still be able to be serial flashed?
if it's an ESP8266/8285, yeah. those can always be serial flashed
just for instance
this doesnt list that it can be serial flashed, but i mean, wouldnt it be able to also?
if it's an ESP8266/8285, yeah. those can always be serial flashed
if it's not an ESP, it's not flashable
like i mentioned before, tuya has been moving away from ESPs for a while now, so it's ultimately a crapshoot at this point with products if they still have an ESP or not
but like, is tuya a chip maker? or the company making random products?
tuya provides the cloud services for anything that uses the tuya smart or smart life apps (or the many rebranded apps that use their cloud services). they also manufacture wi-fi modules for use in products that are designed to use their cloud services
the TYWExx line of modules is ESP based, but they have been moving away from those wi-fi modules because it's cheaper than using ESPs and/or because that solves the issue of people flashing custom firmware on their devices
ok so they are the ones saying, lets move our whole system away from using ESP's and use a different propriatary shit, which forces any cheap product makers to then be putting non esp's into their products
of course, dedicated nerds like me will just transplant an ESP on a product that uses a non-ESP module 😂
well cause im impatient, and i'd totally stop at walmart tomorrow and see if they had something i could grab
no guarantee it still uses an ESP unfortunately, but it's worth a shot
so like, is it just a crap shoot to know if a product is an updated version? basicly at the whim of the manufactuer to make it known theres a new chip with a "v2" someplace right?
same product number
half of those bulbs have been on the shelf since they came out, LOL
basicly at the whim of the manufactuer to make it known theres a new chip with a "v2" someplace right
you'd be lucky if you even get that
so the only way to know if tuya would work, is to get them
then what, connect them but instead of using the app, use tuya convert to connect them and config to take tas OTA flash?
pretty much (to the "is to get them" comment). sometimes people figure out certain date codes that contain unflashable modules
then what, connect them but instead of using the app, use tuya convert to connect them and config to take tas OTA flash?
you'd be insanely lucky to find an ESP-based product that still works with tuya-convert
so basicly, i get those, and im like 90% not gona OTA them, and then only like 50/50 if i open them
lol
i'd say 99% likely to not work with tuya-convert
you could attempt to tuya-convert them to grab its MAC address and check if it's an ESP at a site like https://www.wireshark.org/tools/oui-lookup.html
you want the manufacturer to be Espressif
everything gotta be complicated
but 10 for 2 bulbs and effort is better then 30 for 2 bulbs
tbh i love this shit anyway, so it doesn't stop me 😄
so how likely you think merkury uses a esp variant?
i have no idea
it really just is a crapshoot at this point and can heavily depend on how old the stock is
well i guess ill order what you know works
and maybe if im feeling saucey ill grab that pack at walmart tomorrow
and rip them apart and ruin it enough to not be reassembled
YA KNOW
sooooooo to be clear tho
tuya convert would work if the mac address leads back to espressif?
no
it would work if it's an ESP, uses tuya's cloud backend, and the firmware hasn't been upgraded to the version that patches the tuya-convert exploit
GOTCHA
mk
well lets hope for esp based shit
i would almost guess gotta be DAMN close to what you posted
oh you wouldnt know which aroma diffuser is still flashable would you?
lol
i want it to smell nice when i trigger motion sensor
lol
also the pet water fountian would be cool
i wana flash all the things
and put them on the network
nope
i found ones that look the exact same but basicly it's all crap shoot at this point i guess
im legit gona start tearing apart any old wifi devices to look for esp's and the spin off chips
lol
lol i'd definitely recommend the MAC address lookup method first
Because it’s easy and cheap
I've been looking for info but cant seem to find it nowhere. Can I install home assistant in a Raspberry Pi 2?
It runs... slowly
If you're thinking of testing it there, go for it (if you can work out how). If you're thinking of running it live...

I had those but I didn’t work for me as good as Gardena.
does anyone else have issues with booting homeassistant with both a zigbee transceiver and an rfxtrx300e connected to it ?
I've done a series of reboot tests yesterday (my wife still hates me for having to get up to switch the lights on/off 🤣), and it turns out that if both are plugged in, the rfxtrx component will fail to setup because it can't communicate with the transceiver, and if I unplug zigbee, wait for HA to be fully booted and then plug in zigbee, there is no problem
my platform is a intelnuc btw
Is there a smart power strip that allows to turn on and off individual sockets?
For EU market
That relies on the heating system being on 100% of the time though? There’s no way these valves can trigger the heating system like my smart thermostats can right?
Can anyone tell me if I need to change anything on my Udm Pro settings to make HA Blue work? I have my original router in bridge mode and the udm pro behind it. With my Ha Blue plugged into the udm pro, but it's not being recognized in the unifi network. Also nothing is showing on homeassistant.local? Thanks so much
Thanks
Thanks
does anyone know how to make a tasmota switch only work if held down for a period of time?
Ready to use custom firmware for ESP8266 devices (including Sonoff)
Docs:
https://tasmota.github.io/docs/
They have their own Discord server or you can ask in #diy-archived
Command '~tasmota' was invoked by: Tinkerer
The circulator is always on, but the boiler will shut off when the water hits the high temperature. Each system is a little different, but in most TRV systems each radiator has a bypass, so when the TRV turns the flow to the radiator off, the water flows right around it and no water goes through the radiator. This allows you to change the heating settings of individual rooms. So yes its always on, but not always adding heat to the space, and circulating hot water through bypasses will only add a minimal amount of heat to the room. Add an outdoor reset to change the temperature of the boiler water based on how warm it is outside for even more energy savings, and also a variable speed circulator pump can save energy by adjusting the output based on how many radiators are calling for heat. If you have a thermostat as well, I would think you'd just leave it on always and set it to a high temperature so the TRV's turn the heat on and off to each room (set at lower temperatures). Say you set the house thermostat to 75, then each individual room to 68, the thermostat stays on the whole time but can shut the system down when the house warms up on a warm day. Individual rooms don't go above 68 degrees. Setup motion sensors or other automations to raise and lower heat in individual rooms with smart TRVs, and leave the main thermostat alone (it can just be "dumb" even)
Hi guys. I bought CC2531 Zigbee USB on Aliexpress, but it seems it came without firmware. Unfortunately, idk how to check if there firmware at all 😅
Issue is following: I'm trying to add it to HA via GUI ZHA integration. Device is recognized in integration as usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B001CCCAF3C-if00 on serial port /dev/ttyACM0, I can choose it from drop down. But on last step, when I click on submit, I got "failed to connect" without any other message and without anything in logs. So 2 questions:
- Is there some simple way to check if there is firmware on it and what version
- If there is no firmware, could it be flashed with FDTI or with CH340G programmer (this is only what I currently have 🙂 )
Thx
Terrible choice for the adapter
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/flashing_the_cc2531.html covers flashing, and the #zigbee-archived channel can likely help further
Hello! I want to unpair my Phillips Hue bulbs from Hue Hub and pair them to HomeAssistant with ZHA. I wanted to ask - will I be able to control power on behavior? Like what happens after it turns on - stays on, off, recovers previous state, etc?
#zigbee-archived can help with that
Thanks for redirecting
thx, I have read https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/flashing_the_cc2531.html around 10 times before asked here, but not sure regarding either question I asked
Having the boiler run continuously seems massively wasteful. The whole point (at least for me) is to cut down on fuel usage. I don’t know how your heating works but for me the smart thermostat turns the boiler off when heating is not required, having it run continuously seems mental!
Didn't really know where to post...but here goes.
I can't access HA on its local IP, yet its external address I can. It doesn't respond to pings. Checked open ports and it's showing nothing. my automations still run and all that jazz.
I suspect its because I moved it from a dhcp to static. But I've restarted my router and nothing.
I connect externally using nabu casa cloud
@glossy prism i grabbed that 2 pack of merkury bulbs, they have all older markings, imma rip on open while at work, its slow today
Anyone know if any aroma diffusers can still flash tas?
@zealous dune
You might be the guy to ask lol
Depends on what you mean by flash tas
Im just looking for an aroma diffuser that is still flashable
Im fine with opening and serial flashing
It's a lottery these days whether you'll get an unsupported chip
yeah just lost on merkury bulbs, they had the wb2l chip
Any you know of have the best chance? Or if need be, i can put my own esp in?
This looks promising
The boiler doesn't run constantly, the aquastat shuts it off when the water reaches high temperature. There is a lot of debate over whether setback thermostats are more efficient, or constant temperature with an outdoor reset just keeping up with the building's heat loss is more efficient. I would look at the posts on this forum for more info - hydronic heating is a very complex topic with a lot of different opinions. https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/806245#Comment_806245
Better off imo having the circ pump run all the time to urk out all thebheat from it, and only kick boiler just enough to keep it warm enough to keep temp
Interesting stuff. I can’t see having it running constantly being efficient for me since the boiler only runs for 3 ish months of the year!
I've made my own...
The above instructions use an esp. Works a treat!
My gas usage decreased and bill went down a lot after installing outdoor reset on my condensing boiler. I don't have a connected thermostat - I have 3 "dumb" thermostats (have tri-level baseboard). The two downstairs go down a few degrees overnight but that's about it. Otherwise temp is pretty constant in the house always. I think the key is run circulator all the time and just heat enough to keep up with building's heat loss. Many boilers are way oversized and waste a lot of heat bringing water up to 180 degrees all season long (even in fall and spring). I'm in a very cold climate too so that is a factor in how you do it. Here's a good article about outdoor reset - https://www.usboiler.net/what-is-outdoor-reset-control.html
Probably cost me £8?
@cerulean ermine ahh, we just turn our heating boiler off in spring after last frost and on in fall again so its totally off
i am the outdoor reset lol
Please. I need help. I seem to have broken my brand new HA Blue after trying to install DuckDNS.
Where can I go to get some guidance? Even a factory reset will be fine since I just installed it brand new today.
Hi can someone help me add my Techlife pro wife led controller to home assistant? I can't figure it out.
I have this controller and would love to integrate it to home assistant
I just soldered together a WeMos and a DHT. I flashed it using esphome-flasher (Win) and I'm getting this:
[17:34:12][W][dht:167]: Requesting data from DHT failed!
[17:34:12][W][dht:060]: Invalid readings! Please check your wiring (pull-up resistor, pin number) and consider manually specifying the DHT model using the model option.
[17:34:12][D][sensor:113]: 'Guest Bath Temperature': Sending state nan °C with 0 decimals of accuracy
[17:34:12][D][sensor:113]: 'Guest Bath Humidity': Sending state nan % with 0 decimals of accuracy
My soldering skillz ain't the greatest, so I was checking continuity pin-to-pin to see if I'd blobbed to much solder on. I've got continuity from G to D4 (which is where this DHT sends data from). Is that the likely cause of the error or is something else borken?
I have tried to clean up the solder job with some solder wick, but no matter what I do I seem to get continuity across those 2 pins.
OK, sorry. Should have posted this in #diy-archived . Turns out it didn't have anything to do with my soldering skillz, but that I specified pin 4 instead of D4...
What do I do when HA reports a switch as dead?
You should ask in #zwave-archived
Okay
I think the switch is proper dead, even triggering it manually doesn't do anything.
On this 4 gang athom/tasmota wall switches. Can I use those buttons to trigger whatever I want even if it's not connected to a device behind it? Like, button 3 was pushed, play XYZ on sonos
Or if there a better option if I just need a wifi button (tasmota preferred) that I'll use as a trigger?
Yeah you can
Turn on a light and open your garage door
Turn on a light and send a push notification that you like big butts and you cannot lie
I tried to get sonos text to speech working, but I guess my connect is too old
Looking to set up a docker hass instance, mostly for automating a few switches, alongside wireguard for remote access. I've got some old (6-14 years) laptops sitting around, seems like since the goal is just these two applications it shouldn't require much in the way of cpu or ram. Am I fooling myself thinking I can get away with using a core 2 duo machine from 2007 for this?
can those sonoff motion detectors determine if it's light or dark in the area by chance?
the aqara equivalent do lux
I'm thinking the sunset sensor should do the trick
Actually. Maybe it does have it? https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-do-i-get-lux-light-sensor-information-fran-xiaomi-aqara/142514
yeah aqara sensors have light capability
Hello
Maybe someone here can help me. I just bought my first zigbee dongle
But im to stupid to set up zha 😦
ITead Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus is the device
Flashed with original fw, but also tried newest zstack, when i start zha in the integrations it shows the device, i can set the radio type and in the dialog after for hardware flow etc i get a message, cant connect to device
Hassos on Proxmox
