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radiant forge
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Honestly no idea why he would do one and not the other but whatever

real axle
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Ran out of black wires on a job is what that probably is haha

radiant forge
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What even is the purpose of a neutral wire? What does it do?

gloomy spoke
fringe moon
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If you don't know what a neutral does, you shouldn't do any kind of wiring that is for sure

round plinth
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US here. Any recommendations for motion sensors? I currently have some Hue ones, but figured I'd ask around to see if there are any other HA compatible ones that may be cheaper. Protocol doesn't necessarily matter for me, but I guess if they're natively compatible with Hue that'd be nice.

fringe moon
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Xiaomi

round plinth
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Is that aqara now? That name keeps on showing up when I search it

winged knoll
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They do many many many many ranges, but yes

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I think the Xiaomi ones work with the Hue bridge, but I threw my bridge away years ago

round plinth
winged knoll
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They're slightly more sensitive, and also Zigbee 3.0

round plinth
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If these don't end up compatible with the Hue bridge, it looks like I can get a generic zigbee hub/receiver. Is that correct?

fringe moon
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Yes, that would be preferable

bright jacinthBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

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fringe moon
round plinth
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Thank you very much

winged knoll
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Zigbee2MQTT and CC2652... the one true way (as opposed to the other true ways 😛 )

fringe moon
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The other are false idols

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Do not be fooled

real axle
fringe moon
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Never underestimate users

real axle
real axle
winged knoll
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Not your fault if people ignore common sense

fringe moon
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This is why I'm an angry cunt and just say don't touch it you knobhead

real axle
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True that. Electricians do exist for a purpose :)

winged knoll
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The only thing that's safe to mess with when you don't really know what you're doing is water. Electric and gas can have "unfortunate" outcomes

fringe moon
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I've done a three year electronics repair education, I understand higher voltages and where and what I shouldn't touch, and do my own installs mostly, and tell idjits to stay away 🤣

winged knoll
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I've not had formal training, and lots of informal training, and have been tinkering with mains voltages (and there abouts) for most of my life. I've still managed to have "accidents" a few times

real axle
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I do wonder if people actually plug shit into their walls and go it works but then there's a wire that's meant to go somewhere I'm like wtf you shouldn't be near that wall lol

winged knoll
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Thankfully only once was spectacular, and that was caught by the main RCD for the office...

fringe moon
winged knoll
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Well, no smoke escaped, but there was an impressive bang and flash, and some things did get an unplanned spot weld

real axle
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A more tragic form of magic smoke lol

winged knoll
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Pffft, the only thing that died was a spare PC

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It was pretty convincingly dead though, 240V into a 12V bus....

real axle
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Heeey you could have sold it second hand and bought an RPI for your effort

winged knoll
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Eh, it got shoved back into the "spares" store and the boss made me promise to never talk about it

real axle
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Your boss is nice lol

winged knoll
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I think he felt guilty 😂

fringe moon
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Nothing beats the electrician at one DC I was working at

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Swapped the transformer around

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Not 400v-230v, but 230v-400v

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50 PSUs did not agree

real axle
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Um...

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backs away

winged knoll
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Yeah, I've seen techs do ... unfortunate things like that. Hundreds (or more) of systems smoked out

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Or the one where they cut power to the wrong computer hall, so turned it immediately back on - literally just click click. Lots of systems didn't recover from that

real axle
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I am now convinced we pay contractors to do what they do best for a reason. What's the point of asking some in-house guy who thinks they have the right solution coz they saw it on reddit

winged knoll
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Instead you pay a contractor who saw it on reddit

real axle
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Or Google. But then again, I did send a few articles today and probably killed somebody shrugs

winged knoll
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Darwin in action

real axle
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They got insurance

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Lol

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In house people I don't think insurance would cover for that level of unprofessionalism

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Depends on country but I'm pretty sure it would be a universal rule

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shrugs ah I dunno what I'm talking about. Back to motion detectors.... I was buying one I don't think there's many out there that work without Bridges and over the WiFi (or on MQTT) ...

surreal marlin
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does home assistant run on an intel xeon?

winged knoll
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HA runs on anything Python 3.8 (and later) runs on

surreal marlin
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that means I can comfortably run HAOS on a xeon via Proxmox

gloomy spoke
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yes

surreal marlin
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Thank you both

fringe moon
pine apex
gloomy spoke
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why on earth?

polar girder
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er

pine apex
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I started with my Hass setup in my home server before realizing that routine maintenance meant I had to take Home Assistant down as well

polar girder
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just dockerize it and don't worry lol

gloomy spoke
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if you were running on Windows, then yeah

pine apex
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Sorry I don't mean RPi is better hardware, I mean you might not want all your hardware on one machine

gloomy spoke
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otherwise, not so much

pine apex
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Adding a drive, or GPU meant home assistant went down. Bored update to Unraid meant a rollback night effect the Home Assistant install

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Just something to consider

polar girder
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... sure, but you should be regularly updating a Pi as well... which is about the same amount of time

pine apex
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True, I guess my home server is way more likely to come down for way more reasons so separating them made my life easier

polar girder
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the trick is to put all of your essential stuff on one server so you never want to take it down lmao

zealous dune
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Servers shouldn't be more likely to come down, it should be the exact opposite

slate cipher
inner cape
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What would be the best solution for a letterbox? Motion/Lux or Vibration sensor

civic kraken
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depending on the type a door sensor could work well

light marsh
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anyone install plex on portainer? i kept getting read/write permission issue

ivory stream
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Hi, I need help. I have 2 networks (192.168.1.0/24 192.168.2.0/24). At 192.168.2.0/24 is the Xiaomi Gateway (Aqara), the hassio server is at 192.168.1.0/24. In this case, the Gateway does not find a discovery, and you can add by entering the Gateway data manually. The Gateway is integrated, its lamp works, after an indefinite time it disappears and all sensors and sensors connected to it do not update their values. What could be the reason?

drifting grove
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I think the gateway changes his IP

ivory stream
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a static ip was issued to the gateway

real canyon
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all it'd take is count pulses anyway 🙂

upper yoke
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anyone have recommendations for some smoke/carbon monoxide sensors compatible with HA? i'm assuming there's something cheaper than getting a Nest Protect at $120 each/$200 for a 2 pack.

real canyon
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that sounds way too expensive

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connecting such stuff to HA is kinda trivial

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unless you're totally not into electronics

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i see zigbee ones for like $30

winged knoll
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Of course, that $30 sensor may be no more effective at detecting smoke/fire than a brick

real canyon
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heh

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detecting smoke is fairly simple

winged knoll
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You'd think so

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Which in the UK did a bunch of tests on modern smoke detectors, many failed to detect anything

real canyon
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they ones everyone has cost like $15

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oww

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i thought they'd all do something like IR and some refraction?

winged knoll
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Sure, but that's like saying an internal combustion engine is simple

real canyon
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it is!

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puch maxi engine is like 5 parts

winged knoll
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Which slated Devolo, Konig, and Honeywell...

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They also highly rated Nest, FireAngel, and a different Honeywell model

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So, Honeywell can't even consistently make effective smoke detectors

real canyon
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hmm, and those don't come cheap

winged knoll
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FireAngel one is £10

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Second best is the Ei Ei141RC - £17, and not far behind the Nest in first place

real canyon
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ah, dutch consumer org also did a test,

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but those are standalone i suppose?

winged knoll
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Well, anything that supports wired interconnect could be DIY'd to smart

real canyon
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indeed 🙂

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dutch consumer org lists fireangel as the most expensive one, at E25

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most expensive good one, that is

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alecto also quite acceptable, thank bob

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those are very common

winged knoll
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I'd rather spend money on a good one, than save money and have it fail to alert me to something

real canyon
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of course

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but it suggests paying like 100 or more is nonsense

winged knoll
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Yeah, but then look at what people will pay for a mobile phone 😂

real canyon
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right

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luckily boss was all to happy to give me a dual sim one

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anyway, considering automating sun awning, think i'll make it semi-autonomous

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allowing HA to overrule if i want to

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colleague bought an appartment where nothing worked when network was down

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made me giggle indeed 🙂

fierce finch
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hey everyone , does someone knows a good store address for the ZZH stick ? I'm on the 'waiting' list and would love to have such a stick asap 🙂

drifting grove
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Has anyone good experience with one of the sticks on a raspi 4?

gentle fossil
upper yoke
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tuxick and tinxerer, that aliexpress CO sensor is only $1.13..is it gonna work? sort of apprehensive because tinkerer said there's a vast majority of consumer smoke detectors that don't function properly

lime sand
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My nest thermostat is having issues and I am sick of it. What is a good recommended replacement?

gloomy spoke
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I like my Ecobees

lime sand
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that was the one i was looking at

gloomy spoke
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you can use the Homekit Controller integration to control them locally

lime sand
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oh cool, more local more better.

slim lagoon
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@gloomy spoke Wait... what?! Homekit controller allows for local control of Ecobees? mindblown Holy crap... I had no clue!

gloomy spoke
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What you can do is more limited, though. You don’t get the ecobee-specific services from the cloud integration

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I have it added both ways

slim lagoon
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Yeah, but even that is a step above the actual integration. To be fair, I haven't actually touched my ecobees in probably 2 or 3 years now. LOL It just runs when it sees fit

gloomy spoke
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Their server reliability used to be abysmal, but they’ve seemed better lately

slim lagoon
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True. I only see a 503 error once every few months now. It used to be weekly or daily. Maybe they finally hired a proper IT guy.

quartz ruin
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tks @slim lagoon

dapper dune
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Hi guys!
I found a lot of tutorials with people using NabuCasa for webhooks and so on. I've lost a lot of knowledge when it comes to advanced systems/config on computers, but I think this might work.
Instead of using NabuCasa, could i use one of my static IP adresses to accomplish the same results? pros/cons with this?
Thanks!

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@hollow escarp . You are a NabuCasa fan. Maybe you could answer?? ponder

winged knoll
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I go direct, despite having NC for Google Assistant

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Disadvantage: You need to set up a port forwarding
Advantage: You can manage access in a fine grained manner. I for instance only allow remote access to webhooks, not all of HA

dapper dune
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Thats a disadvantage I can live with!
And @winged knoll , your quick and precise answers is incredible. Love your dedication, thanks!!

winged knoll
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No worries, happy to help

dapper dune
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Could it be in your interests to help me kickstart my new hobby? mby have a VOIP call som other day.
Got great overall knowledge, but nothing deep. The main thing i need to learn is how the .yaml files work, so i can use the totorials on HS website. smart

bright jacinthBOT
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YAML is the mark up language used by Home Assistant, consistent indenting (two spaces per level) is key. Here is a primer, and this explains multi-line templates. For validating YAML see YAML Lint.

Command '~yaml' was invoked by: Tinkerer
random pivot
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Hello, I need help with the following:
I want to buy a Computer/Server for HomeAssistant. Which hardware would you guys recommend me? I'm currently on a budget of around 100-150€ and I don't want to buy a Raspberry Pi because they seem to have a lot of issues (long boot times, sd card gets broken, not enough power, etc).

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if these aren't good enough or my budget is too low please tell me

dapper dune
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well hard to say. Im using a Rpi and have no issues, så i really cant relate to that.
The thing aboirt RPI is thats is a dedicated OS. I dont think Windows/linux have that ??

winged knoll
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"Dedicated OS" 🤔

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To be honest, any PC from the last 10 years, other than Atom, will be fine. I run HA on an 8 year old i5 laptop

civic kraken
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Old Nucs are a great choice. Maybe skip the decade old celerons/pentiums if you can get an i3 or i5 for similar price instead

queen umbra
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Does anyone know of an in-line switch that I could use to control a hot water heater that has 2 hot wires that are 30 amps each?

bright jacinthBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
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queen umbra
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Sorry... Looking in the US.. Budget is dont really have one would like to be cheaper if possible.. Would like zwave or Wifi.. If it had power monitoring that would be cool but really just looking to control it..

random pivot
random pivot
winged knoll
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No, I don't run HAOS, but performance is just fine

random pivot
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how do you run it? docker?

winged knoll
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Core actually, but then I've been a *nix admin for a long long time

random pivot
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why would you use core? what is *nix?

winged knoll
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*nix - unix/linux/etc

random pivot
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oh ok

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soo running core should be no problem for you then

winged knoll
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I use core because I started with HA long before HAOS existed, and because it suits me

random pivot
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oh ok

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have you any experience with termux?

winged knoll
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Never bothered with it

random pivot
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ok

winged knoll
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Even a Pi is a better choice than trying to turn a phone into a server 😂

random pivot
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well i thought it could work😂

winged knoll
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Sure, and HAOS "works" in a Pi Zero

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Doesn't mean it's a good idea 😛

random pivot
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oh yeah i've heard about that

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AFTER buying a pi zero for EXACTLY that purpose

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i'm just not a lucky guy i guess😂

winged knoll
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The only time it's been mentioned in the docs has been under only for testing 😂

random pivot
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yeah and i made my buy decision based off a reddit user that he has no problems with running hassbian on a pi zero

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after buying it i realized hassbian has been discontinued for over two years

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now i'm stuck with all of my smart home appliances and my tuya devices flashed with tasmota but without a proper server and a pi zero

winged knoll
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Well, Hassbian is just Rasbpian + HA, but also, HA of 2+ years ago was a lot smaller than today

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You can get Core working there, I just wouldn't

random pivot
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yeah i really don't want to use core anymore

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especially after using it on termux

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soo any recommendations for a server?

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under 100€ would be perfect

winged knoll
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To be honest, any PC from the last 10 years, other than Atom, will be fine. I run HA on an 8 year old i5 laptop

random pivot
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oh yeah forgot about that XD

winged knoll
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Seriously, grab something second hand off of eBay or similar

random pivot
winged knoll
random pivot
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ok so if i should buy a linux/windows pc and i install vmware on it

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should i just assign my entire pc power to it?

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since i don't think i'm gonna use it for something else

winged knoll
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VMWare ESXi or Proxmox if you're going down the VM route

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How much you allocate depends on what specs you end up with...

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HA benefits from 2+ cores and 2GB+ of RAM

random pivot
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probably something with a core duo

random pivot
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what's wrong with the standard version?

bright jacinthBOT
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winged knoll
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Because ESXi is the server version

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Desktop requires a desktop OS ablobgrimace

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Do you really want to throw away a bunch of resources?

random pivot
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how is this gonna work without os``

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is it an os itself or what?

edgy fog
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I run it in a kvm (libvirt) vm, on Fedora 33 on a 2012 Mac Mini. It works fine.

winged knoll
random pivot
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why can't developers just publish the os instead of having to install a vm for it 😂

edgy fog
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They don't want to have to maintain an OS for every piece of hardware someone might try to use.

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There are images available for some standard-ish systems, like NUC.

random pivot
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but the home-assistant os is a iso file right? so shouldn't i be able to boot (on a pc) from that?

edgy fog
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If the hardware on the PC has supported drivers in the OS.

winged knoll
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The RC of the 6.0 release is "generic PC" and may work on your hardware, or may not

random pivot
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sooo from what i understood is the following:
download vmware esxi on an usb stick
boot server pc from that usb stick
run setup
configure everything
switch to another pc
login from ip address
create new vm
upload homeassistantos iso on that
switch back to the server pc
run vm

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is that right?

dapper dune
winged knoll
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If not, Proxmox is an alternative

random pivot
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isn't esxi for servers only?

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not for 'regular' pcs?

winged knoll
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It's complicated...

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It supports certain hardware. If your PC has those, you're good

random pivot
winged knoll
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Yes, that's VMWare

random pivot
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what would you recommend me? vmware or proxmox?

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or is it just preference?

winged knoll
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If it works, VMWare ESXi

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If it doesn't, then Proxmox

random pivot
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what do you think of this pc:
dell optiplex 960
preinstalled with linux mint 64bit
intel dual core
4gb ddr2
160gb hdd

winged knoll
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Well... depends on what "intel dual core"

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Google the model number

random pivot
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specs say:
Processor Type
Q9000 Series Intel® Core™2 Quad 12M, 1333 FSB
Q9000 Series Intel® Core™2 Quad 6M, 1333 FSB
E8000 Series Intel® Core™2 Duo 6M, 1333 FSB

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but this guy has a picture where it says intel penitum e6500

winged knoll
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So... it's ok - not great, but ok

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For reference, a Pi4 is estimated to have a CPU Mark of about 900

random pivot
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oh...

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what about this one:

winged knoll
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Google the spec, have a look at those two sites

random pivot
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ok thank you very much

winged knoll
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You want at least 2 cores, 64bit, and as good a CPU Mark as you can get for the money

random pivot
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thanks

random pivot
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highest cpu score I could get rn is 1229. what do you think of that

winged knoll
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Better than 1000 😄

random pivot
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definetely XD

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but won't work with vmware right?

winged knoll
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Probably not

random pivot
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so proxmox is the way to go

winged knoll
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Probably

random pivot
winged knoll
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Generally speaking, yes

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  1. Install Proxmox following the Proxmox docs
  2. Install HA in a VM following the HAOS docs
hard zealot
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Is anyone running HA on RPi4 (HA Docker on Raspbian OS) ? I'm trying to connect Bluetooth Temperature/Humidity sensor (Xiaomi one) but i dont think Home Assistant has access to bluetooth of my Pi.... Not sure how to fix that. Been busting my head for couple of hours some people mention "--net=host" but not sure how to add that flag to docker exactly....

gloomy spoke
winged knoll
gloomy spoke
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oh, goody

winged knoll
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Yeah, another expert running the expert method ...

real canyon
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well where would we be without experts

pallid thistle
jade jolt
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What naming conventions (if any) do you use for devices ?

winged knoll
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Macro to micro

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switch.living_room_table_left

jade jolt
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i do similar for lights and switches - but what about sensors - if you have multiple in same room ?

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do you add purpose - i.e. motion or temperature ?

winged knoll
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If it needs it, yes, but not always

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Light and switch for instance have that in the domain

jade jolt
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yeah

winged knoll
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binary_sensor.living_room_motion makes more sense than binary_sensor.living_room though

jade jolt
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sensors can get ambiguous though

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I've made a naming choice that I regret - I got a bunch of sonoff temp sensors and to disambiguate them added sonoff to the name - now I wish I'd just added env (environment) instead (they do temp and humidity)

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question is do I regret it enough to rename them all 😄

void rampart
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hey guys. is there someone who can recommend an "always-on" device? because i am not satisfied with my raspberryPi.

winged knoll
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There's a long history of such posts here and on the forum, but it really depends on the answers to the pinned message

void rampart
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okay i will check 🙂

winged knoll
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That said, pretty much any PC from the last decade will work. You don't want Atom, and you really want a CPU Mark of above 1,000 - higher is better (within reason, you don't need a CPU Mark of 100K 😄 )

void rampart
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yeah i was just thinking about something small 🙂

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but i will check the chatlogs here 🙂

winged knoll
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I personally run on an 8 year old i5 laptop

void rampart
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i still have got an i5 downstairs. but should also work tbh

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you run it as an always-on rihgt ?

winged knoll
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Well, of course

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I also don't run Windows on it

void rampart
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i am just a beginner with home assistant 😄 sorry

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just homeassistant right ?

winged knoll
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And HA related things

void rampart
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yeah ofc

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makes sense

winged knoll
void rampart
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i just made a small testenvironment on my rasp

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everythings working fine

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also do have a background in it

winged knoll
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I run core partly because Container wasn't an option way back then and partly because I have some local stuff that would be a pain in the backside to get working with Docker

void rampart
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ah okay

winged knoll
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Docker makes life so much easier

void rampart
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what did you automate at your side ?

winged knoll
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Lots of stuff 😂

bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
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It's all on my Git

void rampart
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you are crazy 🙂

winged knoll
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Locally I've got a hook into the Squeeze player (aka Logitech Media Server) that the HA integration doesn't support

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One day I'll write an MQTT wrapper for it so I can switch to Docker

void rampart
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you are much more experienced 🙂 but good to get to know you 🙂

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if i got questions i will come back to you 😄

jade jolt
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hey @winged knoll - do you still have any original squeeze boxes ? I got mine when they first launched but they all failed in one way or another since - I only have a boom left and that's not plugged in

winged knoll
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I have two of the Radio units. The original with the VFD died a looooooong time ago

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The Radio units still work perfectly

jade jolt
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I had 4 of the original VFD display ones

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I just use google home speakers now 😐 and plex

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plex not support flac is a pita though

winged knoll
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I'm still looking for a decent replacement for them. All I want is a local API, not cloud dependant, and a good (for bedroom use) display. So far nothing comes close shrug

jade jolt
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I used the pi squeeze player for a while

winged knoll
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I also love that the alarm is local to the device, and there's a battery, so that if everything fails you still get woken up 😄

jade jolt
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yeah - occasionally google just doesn't do its routines

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thats a fun morning - although I usual beat the alarm anyway

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am too committed to google home (or nest) speakers now - have one in every room - although do try to hide them

winged knoll
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Oh, I have a bunch of them, but for "critical" use their reliance on the Internet ain't good enough

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If the Home Hub units would work when disconnected, with a local alarm, I'd be using them already

jade jolt
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google suggest alarms should still sound with no internet

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obviously one that plays the radio isnt going to

winged knoll
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Well, you'd say that, but the Home Hub displays a setup screen when there's no Internet... so I'm not going to trust that

coarse fiber
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I'm currently running hass os on a raspi 4 with the recorder set to a mysql database I have running on a mini pc. This makes hass dependent of the mini pc. Is there any way of storing the hass db on a usb drive, for example, connecting an 8gb usb drive to the raspi and save the database there so the sd card wouldn't die fast?

winged knoll
coarse fiber
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I guess that would be booting hass os from an ssd?

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on raspi

winged knoll
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There's two options there - one is to boot from SD and move all the data, the other is to boot

atomic hearth
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Hey, any recommendations for indoor cameras with RTSP and night vision? Ideally local only? And cheap 😊

fringe moon
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Any $20 AliExpress camera

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But indoor cameras no

viscid solar
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Soon i will be pulling my hair out, i CANT understand how i can readout sceneid from my fibaro dimmer 2 switch, i want the first button to toggle and dim a connected light, that obviously work since its wired, BUT i cant get the damn button 2 to launch scenes etcetera, i have tried several times and searched all kind of forums, can someone please help me understand what im doing wrong?

random pivot
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Hey @winged knoll I just wanted to tell you that I got the PC and the guy who sold it to me had components in it that were actually twice as powerful as originally mentioned XD (CPU has a score of 2043).

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Ordered a SSD for the server so proxmox cann boot faster

winged knoll
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Even better partyTime

random pivot
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I mean the vms

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Want me to keep you up to date?

fringe moon
winged knoll
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Eh, feel free to update the channel, but you don't need to tag me 😉

random pivot
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Oh ok

celest field
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Hello everyone. I am looking to add door/window sensors to my setup. What do you all recommend? The guides I have been finding seem like they are out of date because the hardware is unavailable.

bright jacinthBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
Command '~what' was invoked by: RobC
winged knoll
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You can't really go wrong with Xiaomi Aqara (zigbee) sensors and your choice of #zigbee-archived integration

celest field
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Those are what I have been eyeing up because they are cheap. lol

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Thank you for your input.

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It appears those need an additional Xiaomi gateway to make them work?

winged knoll
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Did you read the second half of my response?

celest field
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Oh wait... it's just an integration.

gloomy spoke
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tl;dr

winged knoll
zealous dune
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#skimmedit

winged knoll
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That channel has a pinned message, and topic, that can guide further

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(in short, gateway not required)

celest field
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I did skim. Sorry about that.

zealous dune
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technically a gateway/hub/stick required

celest field
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Right, but not an additional gateway, which is nice.

lunar delta
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Any pre-existing devices that can detect a 24VAC signal and send a message to mqtt or similar?

plucky cosmos
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Is it possible to use a smart things hub, instead of a z-wave/zigbee USB stick? The location of my server is not ideal, would be better to use a smarty things hub centrally located in my case.

If this is possible, is there any downsides?

slim lagoon
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Not as a "stick" in the sense that you can use it with ZHA/Z2M, no. You can leave your devices hooked up to SmartThings and then use the SmartThings integration to bring the devices into HA.

plucky cosmos
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Is this integration reliable? Or is it best to use USB stick? If I use USB stick, I would need to use z-wave repeaters/extenders, which... Just adds more complexity and probably unreliability anyways lol

zealous dune
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it works until samsung decides otherwise

plucky cosmos
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Ahh, I see. Ok then

winged knoll
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You should also check the IoT class

slim lagoon
winged knoll
plucky cosmos
# slim lagoon If you aren't using extenders now, you'd probably not need them with a good Z-Wa...

My issue is my server which would be running home assistant is in a far end area of the basement, pretty much away from everything else. Plus cinder block, etc make for crappy signal. I have wireless AP in the main part of the house. So having the hub connected to the wifi centrally located I think seems like a good solution.

Anyways, thanks for the info I will look into z-wave coordinator

edgy sapphire
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Anyone ever use a usb over Ethernet adapter to mount their z wave stick in a more optimal location?

gentle fossil
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I tried once with usb2ethernetsomething

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it's not worth the hassle

winged knoll
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For both you can just run a Pi somewhere central with the required USB sticks and use Zigbee2MQTT and ZWaveJS

edgy sapphire
gentle fossil
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see what tinkerer writes

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zwavejs2mqtt is a thing

winged knoll
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But with just ZWaveJS you still run the Z-Wave part "remotely"

twin cargo
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Hi, I realize this might be off topic but if it wasn't virtually unsearchable I wouldn't ask: Can I connect Ikea tradfri LEDs to a "hardware" dimmer but keep it all the way turned up without destroying them?

winged knoll
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If the dimmer never actually dims at all you should be fine

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The problem may come if it turns out they always do some dimming, that way will lead to burned out dimmers/bulbs/both

twin cargo
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Thanks. Since I can't guarantee it and I don't have any equipment to measure it I'll probably forego changing those bulbs then.

tranquil nest
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Does anybody know of a CO2 / Air quality sensor? I have a zwave setup, but can deal w/ zigbee or wifi if it's just that. Air quality is easy enough, but I also want ambient co2 (so I can trigger house fan to move air around and stuff like that)

tender igloo
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I'm picking up 24 Sylvania ZigBee bulbs and saw I would need a hub other than the Philips Hue I currently have (for a few pre-existing bulbs). I picked up the Aeotec Smartthings Hub since it seemed like a solid catch-all solution for ZigBee and ZWave, but... it looks like I need to go through this whole thing of using letsencrypt and SSL and such.

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I can't find much info on whether I will always need this SSL setup though? And whether this means my ZigBee devices require the Smartthings cloud just to function? Or is this just a one-time integration with home assistant?

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I'd like to not have any outside connections to Home Assistant, in the long run.

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Sorry if this falls outside the purview of "hardware" - if this particular hardware requires a software setup I don't want though, I want to know what my alternatives are.

inner cape
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zigbee2mqtt will fix your woes. all in house

tender igloo
inner cape
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yes

tender igloo
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Well, I'm probably fine to return this thing, but if it does work besides an initial authorization, it seems pretty handy.

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So I guess my #hardware-archived question is - just how tied to the cloud is the Aeotec Smartthings Hub?

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And then separately I probably have to ask #integrations-archived about the integration's dependency on cloud software.

inner cape
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I just use a USB dongle into my HA machine

tender igloo
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I might end up going that way at this rate. Return what I have.

tender igloo
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Alright. Return scheduled. ConBeeII it is...

frigid dove
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Wifi smart bulbs (non rgb) recommendations?

fringe moon
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ZigBee > WiFi for sure for bulbs

south wyvern
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The VHDX for window hyper-v download shows as .vhdx.xz , nothing will recognize this .xz file. How can I get it imported into Hyper-V?

fringe moon
south wyvern
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ohh, thanks!

strange garden
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hey guys the I have a ring 2 doorbell and just realized the thing is dead but its been hardwired since day one. Took the battery out and charging it. Does it still need the battery to run?

undone haven
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@slim lagoon , I received my intel pro 1000 4 port card today and it doesn’t fit in the SFF case 🤦. What do you think? Modify the case or get a different card? Not sure I can even get a 4 port card for sff case?

fringe moon
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There are a lot of half width four port Pcie cards @undone haven

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Guessing it is a regular half width slot?

undone haven
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I just found one called low profile that I think will work

fringe moon
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Yep that is another name

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I've modified brackets with a Dremel in the past

undone haven
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dont mind modifying anything as long as I can get the cover on 🤣

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and the wonderfulness that is return shipping and restocking fees.....

fringe moon
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U muricans and your amzoons

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The old hp 364 / 365t cards might be worth it too

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I have a few in my garage

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Come with both full size and half size bracket

undone haven
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even if you gave it to me, shipping from 🧚 🌈 and 🦄 would cost $1,936.00 and it wouldn't arrive till March 2022

fringe moon
undone haven
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😍

keen coral
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Hello! My HA was working fine and when I came back from our of town it is not connected to my network anymore. I’ve tried everything - resetting my router, raspberry, etc. I’m also connected via Ethernet. Please help!

fringe moon
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Check the console

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Probably a dead install

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Your installation method will know more

viscid tulip
keen coral
rich rapids
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@viscid tulip Aqara ones are recommended a lot

ebon kernel
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I picked up a free Amazon fire 5 tablet today to use as a secondary (back entry) hub and got HA installed on it. Went through the process of logging into my HA interface and am getting a err ssl protocol error. Unsure why this is happening on a secondary device. Anyone familiar that could point me in the right direction?

violet cedar
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Hi bro

drifting grove
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Hello everyone, i need to get a cc2531 or a conbee II to start a zigbee network but my Pi is inside a metal cabinet case that cuts a lot the wifi signals, can someone give me a tip about the way i can use one of that usb dongle without being directly connected to the RPi? (noob here) thanks

fringe moon
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Don't get a cc2531

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Or a conbee for that matter

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And use a usb extension cord

drifting grove
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conbee + extension cord?

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got confused, your advice is discard the cc2531 and use the conbee with the usb cord is that what you mean?

winged knoll
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Don't get a Conbee, or a CC2531

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Putting a decent Zigbee stick on a USB extension cable is always advised

drifting grove
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and what do you call a decent zigbee stick? i only know about those 2

winged knoll
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The CC2531 is about the worst though 😄

drifting grove
winged knoll
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"everyone"... who runs deCONZ

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And those who haven't caught up with progress 😛

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With Zigbee2MQTT you'll see the pinned message advises CC2652 based sticks
With ZHA you'll see the pinned message also recommends EmberZNet based sticks

drifting grove
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thanks! im going to check it out

slim lagoon
undone haven
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Yes, thank you

rancid heath
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hi everyone, would this be the right place to ask for help identifying the right controller for a specific led strip?

winged knoll
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Depends on whether you're building your own (#diy-archived) or what is this

rancid heath
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ah im barely starting out with home automation, so I think its not considered building my own? basically I have some LED strips on hand and was wondering what kind of controller do I purchase for them

winged knoll
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Depends, are those analogue or digital?

rancid heath
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I believe analog since they arent individually addressable

winged knoll
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Then the pinned message has some questions you need to answer 😉

rancid heath
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Got it, in this case I've actually narrowed down my options to a specific product I just need to choose the right variant 😅

winged knoll
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Then... why didn't you say that, and what they are, so folks can help?

rancid heath
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I'm sorry haha just figuring out the etiquette here

winged knoll
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Well, if you want general advice and guidance, asking general questions is good

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Wasting everybody's time if you've already narrowed it down and don't want further advice... that's not good

rancid heath
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Feels wrong to select a controller with RGB on it when the strip is just dual white leds

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got it I'll get straight to the questions in the future

winged knoll
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You linked to Double Color 5050 LED Strip White / Warm White Dual White 2 color

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That's not RGB...

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I'd have thought you want the CCWW one

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Assuming it even works with HA

rancid heath
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indeed, but the strip has RGBV connections on it, hence I'm confused how does that wire into the CCWW connectors

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the shop recommended me the CCWW controller too but couldn't provide much info on how the wiring from the RGBV connections on the strip would work

winged knoll
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Those are just the colours of the cables

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The wire insulation colour doesn't have to mean anything

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Of course, you linked to an image of a product, so ... hard to help

rancid heath
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Let me try to find the same product on an english website, so far I've only been able to find it on my local site which is in chinese.

winged knoll
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Even Chinese is fine

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Google translate works well enough

rancid heath
winged knoll
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Yeah, the CCWW one says CCT which is what you're after

rancid heath
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Great thanks! Would you be able to provide any insight on how the wiring from the strip would go? Because I've spent the whole evening googling CCT led strip wiring but they are mostly 3 pin strips

winged knoll
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I've not seen a four pin one myself shrug

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It's quite likely though that the images are wrong 😄

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Or they just re-used existing RGB strips and changed the LEDs...

rancid heath
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As far as I can tell (from googling, 0 experience here), 3 pin strips have the cool and warm LEDs as separate alternating chips on the strip, whereas 4 pin strips have the cool and warm as halves in one LED

winged knoll
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The strip says RGB, but the LEDs are clearly whites

rancid heath
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indeed, hence my confusion. I had also suspected the picture was wrong but searching 5050 cct strips seems to show the same 4 pin RGBV configuration

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I guess I'll look to purchase the 3pin strips just to be sure of the controller haha. Will figure out the 4pin strips as I gain more experience I guess.

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Thanks for the help anyway!

twilit turret
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Hi I have a blue cc2531 zigbee usb stick like this

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it works with 2 of my xiaomi aquara temp/humidity sensors

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but they update like once every hour

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both sensors are super close to the rpi - no more that 3 meters

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why it's happening?

winged knoll
twilit turret
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oh ok sorry!

cold moon
winged knoll
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No

cold moon
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due to antenna or?

winged knoll
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Age

cold moon
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what should i be looking at?

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currently i have hue bridge (zigbee ish) and that's it

winged knoll
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this is based on Silabs older EM3581 "Ember" family chip

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Well, you want a 700 series Z-Wave stick

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And then you want either a CC2652/CC2652p based stick, or a current generation EZSP Zigbee stick

cold moon
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are there name brands to look for or avoid within those options?

winged knoll
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See the #zigbee-archived and #zwave-archived channels for specific advice, but where in the world you are, and which Zigbee integration you plan on using, those both matter

cold moon
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hmm

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my overall goal was to be able to get any zwave or zigbee device and connect to hass

winged knoll
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Sure

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But you have choices 😉

cold moon
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so i actually need to know which zwave or zigbee devices i want before i can decide on which stick to use?

winged knoll
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No

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integration

cold moon
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kk

winged knoll
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And for Z-Wave, where in the world you are matters, a lot

little ginkgo
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I'm not sure what to google to get data such at temp CPU usage and ram usage of a rpi that is NOT my has host

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But I'd want to see that data as it's in a wall

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I'm thinking of writing an app for this but don't want to start as I'm not sure if someone hasn't yet implemented it

fringe moon
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You mean SNMP?

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Or remote glances?

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Or a dozen other modern nonsense implementations

south granite
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Does anyone have recommendations for good battery powered zwave temp and humidity sensors?

undone haven
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I love Aeotec’s door/window sensors and they have a temp/humidity sensor

south granite
winged knoll
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I have their multi-sensor, it's pretty solid

slate cipher
dire ridge
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My video doorbell blew up, And I'm now in the market for a replacement, anyone have a recommendation?

Obviously local control is preferred, But reliability is of utmost importance.

I'm just now starting my search, And you guys were the first place I thought to check with 😁 going to go jump on YouTube and see if I can't find any good recommendations there too

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@undone haven You said that you really like your nest doorbell, what's that cloud subscription cost nowadays? I remember when I first bought my ring it was too rich for my blood but I don't remember what the number was.

undone haven
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I have other cameras that record locally that have a view of the door so I don’t subscribe to their service.

dire ridge
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Oh, so you can still integrate the doorbell into home assistant and get the base doorbell functionality like when the doorbell gets pressed and a live feed without a subscription?

undone haven
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Yes, I have also had it a while so I have a nest dev account to integrate it into HAss. You can’t get a nest dev account any more but HAss has an official integration. I am told on the official integration you get a live feed into HAss as I only have stills that update every 15 secs on the UI. only thing I don’t like is there is no entity exposed to show a doorbell press with the nest dev account. Not sure if the HAss integration exposes this or not.

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I typically use the app for doorbell presses anyway.

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As it has audio

dire ridge
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Okay, doesn't sound like a bad option then. I'm already in the Google Nest ecosystem, with a Google home in every room, and a nest thermostat.

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I've already got the new updated Google Nest DIY developer API account thing, I forget what it's called, so I already have my thermostat in home assistant so it'll probably all just populate in as soon as I add it to my account then without having to do any funny business

undone haven
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I used to have a ring and hated it. I could never connect when someone was at the door. Someone once stood outside for like 5 min and the physical bell never rang. Sold it on flea bay and got the nest. Connects like a champ every time

dire ridge
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I never had any issues with my ring, thankfully, My biggest complaint about it was always the video quality.

rocky tapir
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my HA install bit the dust thats a bit over 3 years old. its on an older pi3B+. is the ODROID-N2+ the recommended hardware to go with?

fringe moon
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Any used last 10y Intel laptop or minicomputer > odroid or pi nonsense, as long as it isn't an atom

rocky tapir
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whats recommended install method? on linux?

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i have a few of those laying around

fringe moon
winged knoll
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docker FTW

fringe moon
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The other two are for.... 1%

winged knoll
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Well, 1% and 1% of 1%

rocky tapir
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how much learning with container? if i am coming from hassio

dire ridge
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Not that I'm doing anything That needs major horsepower, but I'm really happy running my pi4 with #330990055533576204 while wait for my odroid (HA blue) to ship.

fringe moon
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@rocky tapir can you read English text?

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Then you'll be fine

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🤣

rocky tapir
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well thats questionable at times 🤣

dire ridge
fringe moon
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Read the docker documentation for "installing docker on <your os>" and "installing docker compose"

dire ridge
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A lot of the documentation required too much foundational knowledge that I didn't have.

fringe moon
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Then read "installing home assistant on docker "

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It is basically 5 commands from the os is installed

dire ridge
undone haven
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You can be up and running on docker with about 5 commands

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7 with sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade

dire ridge
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Yes, but then you also have to manage the operating system, And if you're not already familiar with maintaining Linux, It's not trivial.

fringe moon
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If you ever want to work within IT, getting familiar with Linux is a must knowledge, if not, y'all gonna be bored 🤣

undone haven
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HAss installed on other than linux 🤫

rocky tapir
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i just need something fairly stable and simple. running some zwave dimmers and switches, some hue lights. mostly after scheduled automation for this install

dire ridge
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Sure, but home assistant isn't just for IT professionals. So #449717345808547842 is not a one size fits all recommendation.

They said they're coming from hassio, which was the same place I was coming from, and regretted trying to go to #449717345808547842 Because it was more things to manage that I had no interest or time in learning.

I'm saying you're wrong, just tossing in an alternate perspective

fringe moon
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A pi or an odroid will fast get a limiting factor atleast, which is why we usually recommend something expandable @rocky tapir

rocky tapir
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will just ha_os be fine though on a intel laptop?

fringe moon
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Sure 🤢

rocky tapir
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i know you say its limiting...

undone haven
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It’s all HAss under the hood.....the amount you can expand other things is where you are limited or not

rocky tapir
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just need to get something simple running with devices i have which arent very complex

undone haven
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It’s a preference. Do what makes you happy

rocky tapir
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i just run the lighting and stuff at my bar with it.

high yarrow
#

Hey does anyone have a recommendation for an in wall smart outlet? It will be outdoors but is covered by one of those protective coverings. I had a ge zwave go bad recently, and haven't had great success with ge stuff.

bright jacinthBOT
#

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
Command '~what' was invoked by: Tinkerer
high yarrow
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Usa, <$50,and open to anything. Looking to just turn on/off some market lights we have out on a deck

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I already have zwave setup and anything wifi of course

marble jacinth
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Looks like there's a lot of options for small Z-wave relays in budget, when I just search Google I get this for example: https://www.amazon.com/zwave-relay/s?k=zwave+relay

Unfortunately I have no experience with relays, but I figured maybe just sharing the word with you would help. Should be easier to find a small board than when you use "switch" as a search term.Good luck! ❤️

violet cedar
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Guys . I am new to home automation. Anyone can suggest me light switches to control lights and fans

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I would like to integrate with my home assistant also

jovial pulsar
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First you tell me a good length for a string. It's for tying stuff.

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Or maybe budget, skill level, other equipment, system preferences... etc ad nauseam.

bright jacinthBOT
#

@violet cedar Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
Command '~what' was invoked by: Tinkerer
zinc falcon
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Does anyone know the usb port on the HA blue could have stopped working suddenly.

Doesn't appear to be linked to a specific update. Just no longer providing power to my ZZH

winged knoll
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#330990055533576204 is the home of the Blue, but presumably you've tried other devices in that port/that device in other ports

zinc falcon
winged knoll
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Sounds then like you can ignore the ZZH as part of this 😉

violet cedar
winged knoll
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If you look in the pinned messages of the #zigbee-archived channel you'll find lists of known working hardware

violet cedar
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Sorry I am able to find what I need

tall canopy
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Anyone else buy loads of sonoff mini r2's just to realise your switches don't have a neutral wire

slim lagoon
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Ouch

tall canopy
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Ah well, luckily it's less than £100 wasted

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Could always sell them on eBay or just keep them for any further lights that I do

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Need a few for outside

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If I fix them into the light switch I lose the switch ability which is no good.

violet cedar
ember cargo
#

i saw the announcement of raspberry pi having an easy installation of HA

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i was wondering how do dashboards work? are they connected to your HA machine or do you leave your tablet on like a kiosk mode and have it display a webpage

gloomy spoke
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All access to the UI is via a browser, which can run on a tablet

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I guess if you install a desktop OS on the Pi and then install HA, you could access it with a browser on the Pi. But that’s not typical

ember cargo
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sounds good, guess ill just purchase some 100$ raspberry pi 4 kit i saw on amazon that had a case, fan, etc

storm cliff
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Guys I'm looking for zigbee wall switches that doesn't cut out the power to the bulbs. It would be just to get the ON/OFF event to control the bulbs through HA.

Right now I have some power off switches and I have problems adapting lights over the day since the bulbs are powered off

fringe moon
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So any wireless switch

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And don't use the physical switch

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Or just move to presence detection for lights off and on

storm cliff
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The wirelless switch ive found (ikea for example) are not wall mounted 😩

zealous dune
fringe moon
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All wireless switches i own Are wall mounted

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And the IKEA ones are wall mounted too

storm cliff
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Thanks for the link, that is insane

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I will double check the ikea switches

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It felt like Ikea ones were too small to be mounted on my switch wall box or whatever is called in english

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thanks all for the help

zealous dune
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good double sided tape makes almost anything wall mounted

fringe moon
storm cliff
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Yeah I guessed that was your suggestion about ikea "wall mounted". The thing is I have every switch I have is flushed to the wall in to a junction box. I'd have to search for some kind of cover, then paint or even plaster.

fringe moon
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If you want to cover switchboxes, buy a 3d printer

storm cliff
zealous dune
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or buy wall switch sized remote switches 😄

fringe moon
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We just don't press switches anymore Shrug

zealous dune
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but "they" do

storm cliff
zealous dune
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they should be coming out with some EU standard switches soon

midnight ibex
#

hey there,
I here for a best practice advice.
I am looking for a led dimmer.
It is 12V and 60W led strip.
The dimmer can be a wifi or zigbee(zhh!, zha) also.

midnight ibex
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one option is shelly rgbw2 . I just intrested is there any other option?

zealous dune
slate cipher
zealous dune
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I don't understand the question

desert vessel
#

Hi, I recently purchased a sonoff smart switch and tried to pair my mobile phone on 2.4ghz wifi to the device, however pairing failed for quick pairing and compatible paring. Anyone suggestions what else I can do? The router settings seem to be correct.

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Or does anyone have a phone number of the customer support? I can't find it.

winged knoll
desert vessel
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You are a life saver thanks

hot sun
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not sure if the number is for support per se

winged knoll
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I doubt very much it is, but if somebody's going to join an unrelated Discord just to ask that ...

distant dove
fringe moon
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It is, but we buy it from China

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🤣

random pivot
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hi guys!
I have this bug where when I open my ceiling light (Tuya device flashed with Tasmota link: https://templates.blakadder.com/oeegoo_OEE216.html) with HomeAssistant and select a color it would show this color for not even one second and then go back to white.

rocky tapir
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any suggestions for in wall dimmer switches that arent zwave?

random pivot
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gosund uses tuya tho so i would recommend you flashing it with tasmota

rocky tapir
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wow those are cheap. so wifi is the way to go for smartening up dumb lights

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seems easier than this zwavejs2mqtt option and keep my zwave paddles

lusty summit
#

I have a Zigbee smart plug which works correctly with on/off but smart metering shows "unknown"

Anyone else have this issue in the past?

cursive yoke
#

Did I read somewhere that the June HAOS release will have Coral m.2 PCI TPU drivers?

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NM.....found my answer. Patiently waiting 🙂

reef hornet
#

Both are MH-Z19B's, plugged into CO2home which run esp32/esphome. When I built the second one (that is weird), it seemed fine upstairs.

random pivot
lavish heath
#

Any Aqara G2H users here?

#

I found this hostname script to place on a SD card to get root access over Telnet (port 23)

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Got RTSP streams working :). I also sw there is a Mosquitto instance running when typing "top" in the Telnet session and in netstat

#

Anyone an idea how to connect to the broker? I tries "root" and the newly changed password, but that didn't work for me.

slim lagoon
lavish heath
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jup

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that would be to easy 😄

bright jacinthBOT
lavish heath
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Quite some settings to play with

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only you need to md5 hash that flash_config.ini file

grave prairie
#

Hi All. I have a couple of Sonoff B05 bulbs. I am really struggling for them to connect to wifi and once connected to stay connected. its like their wifi is really weak. I have a ubiquity wifi system and many other wifi switches all over my house and I dont have issues with anything else. has anyone experienced something similar with these bulbs? I dont know what to do.

scarlet delta
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Hey all...my Google foo may be failing me, but has anybody heard of an integration with Weedtech's Weederboards (Serial boards) specifically https://weedtech.com/wtssr-m.html which is my last thing I need move over from MisterHouse for my sprinklers. I've not done an integration with HomeAssistant yet and wanted to make sure nobody has done this yet before I go down this path.

gloomy spoke
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man, that's a forum post if I've ever seen one

proven harness
gloomy spoke
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I would put a giant post like that in the forum

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Generally if you find yourself writing something up to copy and paste, consider the forum

proven harness
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I wrote it right now. Not copy-pasted from another place. Only for technical reasons, to split for several messages due discord limit

gloomy spoke
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ah, okay. "due to discord limit" is another clue

proven harness
gloomy spoke
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It’s off the screen by now 🙂

proven harness
proven harness
regal meadow
#

I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but is Gearbest a pretty reputable retailer in the US for buying some Aqara stuff?

slim lagoon
proven harness
#

Finally decided to delete my big message

proven harness
dusk panther
#

Hi everyone, I am new to HA. I already have a lidl zigbee gateway. I wish to install a temperature and humidity sensor. Would this Zigbee gateway be enough or do I need another zigbee USB dongles (the Sonos one)?

civic kraken
#

You should ask in #zigbee-archived. Usually these Zigbee hubs only support the brands' own products. If there's an integration for the Lidl one, then all the temp and humidity sensors they sell should work in HA via that gateway. However for the future, you might want to check out a more universal USB stick. Check the topic in #zigbee-archived

wispy marlin
#

~In HA in a R-pi 4, how can I see or find the SoC Temperature??? Thanks

gray charm
#

anyone have experience with LED strips turning green when you choose red, and turning red when you choose green?

zealous dune
#

means you have a GRB led strip instead of RGB

gray charm
#

is there some customization that can be done to a light entity in HA to tell it that the device is GRB vs RGB?

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or would that be integration-dependent?

wispy marlin
#

nobody know how pull the actual temperature in the R-pi SoC (proccessor) running the HomeAssistant???

placid bramble
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Following lines in configuration.yaml

sensor:
  - platform: command_line
    name: CPU Temperature
    command: "cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp"
    unit_of_measurement: "°C"
    value_template: '{{ value | multiply(0.001) | round(2)}}'
wispy marlin
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let me try it, thanks

zealous dune
gray charm
#

that makes sense.

wispy marlin
trim crescent
#

Hey everyone, I have a yeelight bulb that just disappeared from my HA instance and I have no clue why does anyone have an idea as to what it can be? I have the IP setup in the config with the others so I'm kind of lost.

frigid dove
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@trim crescent did you set it up via configuration.yaml or the UI

trim crescent
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config

frigid dove
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So the file

trim crescent
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yes

frigid dove
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Ok

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Is it possible that the IP for the bulb changed

trim crescent
#

I checked that, still the same

frigid dove
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Did you just set it up in Home Assistant or have you been using it for a while

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And are there any errors related to it in the logs?

trim crescent
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been using it for a bit, that's why it just disappearing all the sudden is so weird

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logs said nothing as far as I saw, the device just disappeared from the yeelight integration

frigid dove
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Weird

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Are you sure it's still connected to your network?

trim crescent
#

yea, can access it through my alexa and the yeelight app

frigid dove
#

Ok

trim crescent
#

it's like something is blocking it from HA

frigid dove
#

Have you done anything remotely related, like changing settings on your router, moving it, changing setting for the lightbulb, or anything like that?

trim crescent
#

nah, noticed it wasn't working with my button and then checked and noticed it wasn't registering with the yeelight integration

frigid dove
#

I hate it when stuff randomly stops working because usually I can't figure out what the problem is

trim crescent
#

oh yea, been racking my brain for a bit now

#

I'm gonna just try factory resetting the bulb

#

all of my other bulbs work fine so

frigid dove
#

Ok maybe that will work

#

It could just be a bulb issue preventing the API from working properly

trim crescent
#

if that's the case I have no idea how to fix that lol

frigid dove
#

Factory resetting will probably fix it unless it is a permanent hardware issue

#

I should mention that I don't own any Yeelight products

trim crescent
#

well uh

#

it didn't work lol

frigid dove
#

Oh well

#

Maybe someone else can help you

#

If you didn't already, I would post this on the Home Assistant forum, because your messages might get burried here. @trim crescent

trim crescent
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Thanks, I might tomorrow

deft wedge
#

Hi everyone. no idea if this is the right part to ask this question if so you're allowed to put me in the naughty corner for a minute. 😉
right now I have all smartlights, the gf cant help herself but use my switches. now I was wondering if there are any switches I can install on my wall that just send out a zigbee signal? so I could use zigbee2mqtt to capture that button and control my lights that way w/o her messing up my system xD

winged knoll
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Sure, there's a long list of options in the hardware lists pinned in #zigbee-archived

deft wedge
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thanks 😘

eternal mason
#

Anyone know if it's possible to use a Fitbit with NFC to activate a Home Assistant NFC tag? I want to be able to tap a tag after taking my vitamins or finishing my water bottle to log it to my health app but don't want it to depend on my phone

limber ridge
#

does innovelli not have those outdoor outlet zwave repeater things anymore?!

gusty drift
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General question: I have a handful of TP-Link HS105 switches. SOME work fine, while 2 of them constantly go "unavailable" and never come back, even after a restart. I've found a few old threads that go back a few years with this same problem, but no real definitive solution. So, my question is: is there a way to reflash these plugs to use some other platform (like MQTT or Tasmota) so they stay available? If so, any links to where I might find a how-to?

slim lagoon
#

Nope. They use a custom chipset. There are some scripts/services on github that will allow you to insert mqtt between HA and the tp-link switches, but I don't think that'll solve the issue though.

#

It could just be faulty hardware 🤷‍♂️

gusty drift
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Thanks... I guess I could replace them with some Tuya switches... I just kinda hate tossing them.

slim lagoon
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Agreed. I learned long ago to always buy spares 😉 (literally, I have like 6 spare motion/contact sensors should I need to swap out one that dies).

gusty drift
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Good idea. I should start doing that myself.

compact narwhal
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I've got a Philips Hue Bridge, a Lutron Caseta Bridge, and now I'm adding a Z-Wave device... is there a particular hub/bridge piece of hardware I should look at to cover my bases for Z-wave + future non-Z-Wave devices?

winged knoll
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No hubs, just the relevant sticks

compact narwhal
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I don't even know what that means!

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I've only seen hubs so far, what's a stick? (googling)

gloomy spoke
compact narwhal
#

so... is the main way to use z-wave via a stick?

gloomy spoke
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Yes

compact narwhal
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i was expecting to connect something to my network, not to a usb port

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so, the sticks connect to a computer like a raspberry pi?

gloomy spoke
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Yes

compact narwhal
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do you need one pi per stick? like, would i need a separate pi for a z-wave stick and another pi for a zigbee stick? or would you connect them all to the same pi?

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i've got homeassistant running in docker on my synology nas right now, and i've only just started setting it up

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so my questions might be not even wrong

gloomy spoke
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Some do both protocols, but a single Pi can support multiple usb devices

compact narwhal
#

maybe a better question would be: is there a guide for a recommended setup? heh

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i have no idea if HA in docker is even a good idea

#

it just seemed easy

gloomy spoke
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There are links in the link I gave above

compact narwhal
#

ok, i'll check it out. i actually have a few years old intel nuc somewhere, maybe i can get that running

winged knoll
compact narwhal
#

are there any "you're going to need both eventually" channels? 😄

winged knoll
#

We tried #z* but then it confused people 😛

gloomy spoke
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Some newfangled z* protocol. Just what we need

winged knoll
#

It's ok, it won't matter 🤪

gloomy spoke
#

I see what you did there…

smoky perch
#

What good outlets are there to be able to run automations based on the power usage running thru them?

bright jacinthBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
Command '~what' was invoked by: Tinkerer
smoky perch
#

*US
*whatever
*prefer wifi
*power monitoring

slim lagoon
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There aren't really a lot of good WiFi outlets... at least ones that integrate with HA easily. Maybe some Tuya ones, but not 100% certain on that.

zealous dune
#

There's quite a few but you need to get Tasmota or esphome on them

fringe moon
#

Tasmota yes

eternal mason
#

Anyone here use Withings sleep tracking? I have a sleep tracker I just set up but the 'in_bed' sensor just does not want to trigger. Just says unavailable despite me literally laying on the bed

arctic pawn
#

Hi, does anyone know of a way to give my Home Assistant running on a different device access to Bluetooth via my laptop? I have two devices that use BLE but don’t have a dongle

civic kraken
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Can you explain what you're trying to achieve @arctic pawn? Some sort of a bridge I suppose? MQTT should help out and instead of a laptop there are options like ESP32 (#diy-archived) you can use

rich rapids
#

Any recommendation for Zigbee smart plugs with power monitoring besides Aqara? Just price shopping
15A required

long charm
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i have this generic home depot motion sensor security light outside, but the damn thing doesnt have a sensitivity adjustment and picks up small leaf movement from wind, basically constantly triggering. I can probably just get another light that has a sensitivity adjustment but i wonder if there is some home assistant compatible alternative people use

drifting grove
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Hi. i have HA running with a CC2531 usb stick. i want to reinstall HA now, because of reasons. Can i switch from CC2531 to my new CC2652R stick when it arrives or is it better to do the new installation with the CC2652R stick?

fringe moon
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If you follow the backup procedure and you already run the zb3 firmware on it @drifting grove sure

#

And is a good example why Zigbee2mqtt decoupled is a great idea, don't care where your ha is running and if you reinstall ha

winged knoll
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There's a pinned message over in #zigbee-archived that covers migrating even between Zigbee 1.2 and 3.0 firmware sticks

crystal pendant
#

Hey - thoughts on running both Octoprint and Home Assistant on the same Raspberry Pi 3B?
I searched the forums and found one thread where one person said "why would you ever do that" and someone else saying "it's 100% fine," so I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not. Worst case I can just get a second Pi, but if I can do both on just the one, I'd prefer that.
If so, which route would you go for installation? To me, it makes sense to use one of the pre-built images and then a virtual env for the other install, but please let me know if that's dumb/won't work.

gloomy spoke
crystal pendant
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Would I do that on top of an Octopi install? Or also install Octoprint via Docker?
Apologies, relatively new to Raspberry Pi/Linux stuff in general, so sorry if these are stupid questions.

gloomy spoke
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It’s intended to be installed on an OS that you choose and install. Instructions are in the pinned messages in that channel

crystal pendant
#

Okay, I'll take a look at that and see if I can figure it out, thanks!

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Okay, so I think my gameplan is to install the 64-bit Raspberry Pi OS Lite version, then install Docker and Docker Compose, then use that to install both HA and Octoprint. Once those are both set up, then I can use the Octoprint Integration to make HA and Octoprint talk to each other.

gloomy spoke
#

Sounds like a plan

crystal pendant
#

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

sleek prawn
cloud hull
#

Any way to power multiple ~1-1.5m long led strips from one power outlet?

fringe moon
#

Impossible to tell without more information

cloud hull
# fringe moon Impossible to tell without more information

I want to use 3/4 wled strips close to each other. Each one would have its own ESP32 controller but I was wondering if I could use a single power supplie to power them all. The power consumption of the strips is ~18w per meter max

tepid heart
#

Shouldn't be a problem.

fringe moon
#

Sounds reasonable

cloud hull
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And how would I do that? Can I simply splice a cable from a 60w power supply, or do I need a special power supply with multiple outputs?

fringe moon
#

Depends on what you feel comfortable with

cloud hull
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I would prefer not to have to solder since I'm shit at it, but I could get a friend to do it if necessary

steady void
#

Anyone use the "Frient Intelligent Smoke Sensor" with Conbee II? Does it work?

winged knoll
#

#zigbee-archived would be a place to ask about that, but the stick is less important than your choice of Zigbee integration

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The question is really whether it works with deCONZ/ZHA/Zigbee2MQTT/etc

civic kraken
#

@cloud hull soldering cables is easy, I'm sure you can manage it. But heck even just twisting the cables together is works fine, but an electrician will laugh at you when they see it. You can also run the power from one end of the strip to the other if that's easier for you (with 5V strips the voltage drop could be an issue though)

ember shell
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I'm wondering what the best/cheapest addressable RGBCCW strips are that can either be flashed with Tasmota or integrate directly into HA. Don't feel like spending hundreds on Lifx/Hue or other options if I don't need to.

winged knoll
#

WLED

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Build your own to suit your requirements though I'm not sure it has any support for anything other than RGB

slim lagoon
#

WLED only supports RGB/RGBW.

winged knoll
#

Are there any addressable RGBCCT lights yet?

slim lagoon
#

I think aircookie put RBGCCW in a beta at one point and it didn't go well.

winged knoll
#

I've only seen RGBW myself

slim lagoon
#

I think btf-lighting makes one, but it's something like $45US for a 5m strip.

#

And I know that Quinled was working on a controller that would work with them, but I have no idea where his progress is with it.

ember shell
#

Ahh thanks guys. So I basically just need a power supply, an ESP8266 board and some compatible strips and I'm good to start programming?

slim lagoon
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Yup

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@ember shell WLED also has a discord server.

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Should you run into issues or whatnot.

bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
slim lagoon
ember shell
#

Thank you. Not done much work with ESP8266 but I'm assuming it can't output 12V and I'll need a supplementary power brick for a 12V strip?

winged knoll
#

You'll need something to power the ESP, which could well be a step down from the 12V/24V/whatever

winged knoll
slim lagoon
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Yup. All my projects are 12V. I use Meanwell LR-350-12 power supplies with a 12V-5V buck converter for the esp boards.

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It might be? I don't use RBGCCW at all. All my strips are either WS2811/WS2812B (RGB/RGBW).

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Plus, I've not bought any of Quin's controllers (although they are supposed to be really good).

winged knoll
#

My RGB-CCT is all analogue shrug - well, all one of them ablobjoy

#

I've been keeping an eye out for digital RGB-CCT, but it looks like it's too soon

ember shell
slim lagoon
#

There are 5v, 12v, and 24v varieties of the WS2812B.

ember shell
#

Ohh, good to know. Thanks for that.

slim lagoon
#

The 24V is harder to find usually. But they are great for super long runs.

ember shell
#

Would 12V be enough for a 6m run or would you recommend 24V?

slim lagoon
#

For 6m? Pick your poison. 5v would work, but you'll most likely have to do power injection ~4m in.

ember shell
#

Yeah I'm not injecting. Too messy and 5V is never enough anyway.

#

I'll stick with 12V then by the sounds.

winged knoll
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I'd err on the side of "too much" vs "too little"

slim lagoon
#

I've done runs of >50m using 12v with no injection.

ember shell
#

Wooooow

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12V is plenty by the sounds

winged knoll
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Was that one LED a meter 😛

slim lagoon
#

But I wouldn't go above 60m without injection if you are planning on doing 100% white.

#

HA! Nope.

ember shell
#

I wish it was though...

#

So much room for activities

slim lagoon
winged knoll
#

Interesting approach

slim lagoon
#

@ember shell RIGHT?! You must be young... 😉 At my age, it's all about having room to sleep with the wife and dogs in the bed with you and not having to fight to have 3" in the bed while they all sleep spread-eagle... lmao

ember shell
#

It's a rough cycle.

slim lagoon
#

lmfao

ember shell
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One quick question about the WS2812B strips, is there a max LED/m they support? I've found a nice 144LED/m model I wouldn't mind.

slim lagoon
#

Depends on the controller. WLED can handle those as the FastLED and WS2812FX libraries do.

#

Just remember that to include that in your power requirement calculations. Higher leds/m require more power.

ember shell
#

Will do, thanks mate.

#

Oh actually that one was the WS2815, same support though I take it?

slim lagoon
#

AFAIK, yeah.

ember shell
#

Thanks a bunch

slim lagoon
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Basically, when you're selecting a LED chipset, check to see which ones FastLED (http://fastled.io/) supports. That's basically your litmus test for support.

ember shell
#

Ha, author hasn't updated the GH list of supported models in 3 years.

#

I imagine that WS2815 was added at some point though

slim lagoon
#

LOL I would imagine so as I know WLED supports WS281*.

ember shell
#

Good enough for me, next payday I know what I'm getting.

slim lagoon
#

Nice! Good luck! Once you build your first one, well... it's a deep, dark rabbit hole is all I'm saying 😉

ember shell
#

Yeah I've seen way too many posts on /r/homeassistant to be good for my wallet.

#

Far out, 6m of 144/m comes out to around 52A.

#

No that can't be right

winged knoll
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Why not?

#

At 12v that's not even 5W

slim lagoon
#

Yeah, that's actually about right.

ember shell
#

Damn it is right

cloud hull
#

Can I get a 100w power supply for a led strips that would take ~60w in total?

slim lagoon
#

Yup

#

Typically I only buy 350W power supplies. That way, there's plenty of room if I want to add lights later on.

cloud hull
slim lagoon
#

It should be fine for that load.

#

Just make sure it's the right voltage (ie, if it's a 12V, don't use 5V strips without a buck converter or something like that).

cloud hull
slim lagoon
#

12V allows for longer runs without power injection. 5Vs are cheap, but you'll need to power inject every 4-5m of run, depending on the brightness you are running the strips at.

#

Plus, buck converters introduce a fail point. If you haven't bought the strips yet, then try to match them to the power supply you have.

cloud hull
#

So I should just get 12v since their cost would be offset by not having to buy any buck converters?

slim lagoon
#

That's what I would do, yeah.

#

But, I'm also a 12V snob (it's pretty much all I run lol) 😉

cloud hull
#

Is it safe to attach something like this to the bottom of my desk? I don't think I would kick it or anything, but my legs cound touch it or something. May just encluse it in a lunch boxhttps://alpha.imageserver.cz/led/product/sylius_shop_product_large_thumbnail/9/4107/2053077.jpg

slim lagoon
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It should be fine.

keen ingot
#

It feels like a shame that there's so much nice looking hardware that's cloud/wifi only.

frank bramble
#

Hello, anybody has experience with integrating Danalock v3 zigbee version with HA?

hoary rover
#

Anyone have any thoughts on CAT6A mini/slim/thin

#

From reading online, it seems like plenty of people are just like avoid unless you need to. Plenty of data center focused folks see the downsides and the upsides.

#

For me, if I can get a 10gigabit line strung in my home, which is probably at best 25-30m with CAT6A slim I'm good. My POE devices would be IP cameras.

fringe moon
#

For gigabit? Sure

#

For 10G, no

hoary rover
#

Hmm. Yeah. That's kinda my concern. I don't know if I should care though, ugh.

#

10 Geeb is pretttyyyyy fast

#

6A, non-mini would be best though eh.

fringe moon
#

10g was pretty fast 15 years ago

#

I seldom connect 10g anymore

ember shell
#

What are you running that 10G isn't fast any more

#

40G?

fringe moon
#

40 has been the norm for quite a few years for end devices

ember shell
#

On fibre, sure.

fringe moon
#

Most are moving to 25g these days because of sfp density compared to qsfp

#

Fiber yes, copper is basically dead in enterprise except for management

ember shell
#

Oh we are talking enterprise, thank god. I was wondering how outdated my home setup was for a second.

fringe moon
#

Inter switch links have been 100g for 5+ years, now moving to 200g

#

Rj45 10g .... I can count the number of ports I've seen on 5-10 sets of hands

#

The limitations in length and density have made it useless for most

#

Even 40g infrastructure is cheap used now, can probably get 32 port switches for $100ish

cloud hull
#

Can I power a ESP32 using the microUsb port?

fringe moon
#

Yes

slim lagoon
#

Yes

#

lol

hoary rover
#

I was gonna say, I can count how many times I've even heard of 40g on my third hand

fringe moon
#

I've installed..... Thousands of 40g ports

winged knoll
#

Eh, 100 Gb isn't that uncommon for the last ... while

#

And I don't even work with enterprise networks these days 😄

fringe moon
#

I've done at least 1000 100g uplinks

hoary rover
#

Not in my house

fringe moon
#

And I'm in a small country

hoary rover
#

Honestly, my impression of small countries is that means good internet

fringe moon
#

I installed probably 600 54Gbit ports this year though

hoary rover
#

Larger countries

ember shell
#

I've done, a couple of 10G installs for small business clients. Feelsgoodman.

hoary rover
#

$90 a month for 150megabit. Maybe even capped.

#

I want gigabit. One day. I wonder if I'll see that in my residential area in the next decade.

ember shell
#

They just installed the fibre lines directly from the exchange into my street through so hopefully in the next year I'll see full residential gigabit.

hoary rover
#

We have that too. But the street has no schedule for when it's getting done.

cloud hull
ember shell
winged knoll
#

Paying for modems ... ablobjoy

hoary rover
#

I did that too. I have cable internet just for the better upload.

cloud hull
winged knoll
#

I'm amused that my upload speed is meaningfully faster than my FTTC download speed was, on the top package 😄

ember shell
slim lagoon
#

I have 1000/1000 fiber from one of the most hated providers in the US (AT&T) for $60/month US. I could bitch about them all day long... but, my service has been rock solid even during hurricanes.

cloud hull
hoary rover
#

I get zero support if I don't use a ISP modem.

ember shell
#

ISP support is liking shitting into the wind though

slim lagoon
#

AND soooo stupid.

ember shell
#

The only time you need it is for an actual line fault

hoary rover
#

I used to use a non ISP one and then I'd call in because my internet was fully dead

#

And I'd have to bust out their modem and swap it in temporarily

fringe moon
#

Paying for modems? This sounds like murica

hoary rover
#

And it was dumb, and then they started sending better quality modems with bridge mode and I was like why am I doing this

winged knoll
#

Here the modem comes with the service, at least on FTTP, and it's just a modem - you get an RJ45 port and need to handle your auth from there

fringe moon
#

I haven't used a ISP modem since 2004 though, only had gpon since then EYEBROWS

cloud hull
#

Few months ago my mom was getting exactly 100down even though she's paying for 300down
after 1 angry call, the ISP factory reseted the modem remotly (even though I have done the same thing 3 few hours ago) so I didn't expect anything
Sudenly she has exactly 500down

ember shell
fringe moon
#

500/10 @cloud hull 🤣

cloud hull
fringe moon
#

That's the speeds I hear about across the pond

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Symmetric since 2004 dab_emoji

winged knoll
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Yeah, we only get symmetric in big cities

cloud hull
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Also 500/500 is literally 5 times the price of 1000/50 and I don't understand why

ember shell
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Hell we barely got fibre until the last few years.

fringe moon
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10/10 - 50/50 - 100/100 - 200/200 - 300/300 - 500/500 if memory serves right

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2004/2005/2010/2014/2015/2017

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Waiting for 1000/1000 now

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I had shitty internet the year I lived in Ireland though

winged knoll
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Yeah, if you live in the right place in the UK you can get 1000 symmetric ... but it's a rare beast

fringe moon
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I think my dad could get 1000/1000 from 2011 forward

ember shell
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Out of curiosity I just checked my ISPs site and they now offer an ultrafast option which differs between 500-1000Mbit down, with a hefty 50 up

fringe moon
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I got the offer in 2017, but the current vendor is too expensive

ember shell
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1000/50 lol

winged knoll
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I've got 500/70, which isn't a great ratio, but it ain't that bad ablobjoy

cloud hull
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But I love how the prices dropped by ~30-50% after some smaller ISPs started operating in my city

ember shell
winged knoll
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Zen, but any Openreach backed ISP will do that

fringe moon
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My current vendor wants $130 for 1000/1000, I'm waiting for the other one who offers it for $70

ember shell
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Oh this 1000/50 is AUD$150 a month

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Plus $5 if you want static

fringe moon
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Never had static but I've always had 3-8 dynamic ips with dyndns anyways

winged knoll
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I get static IPv4 and an IPv6 block, and 500/70, for about 110$AUD

fringe moon
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I enabled IPv6 today

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Got a /48 net

ember shell
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Plus my IP is very memorable currently so I don't even need a domain if I didn't want one.

fringe moon
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Never been a hassle to me, I've hosted stuff at home since 1999

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Never been unreachable with dynamic dns

winged knoll
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Yeah, /48 here too, apparently 😄