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steady void
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But since i cant find it i'd just give it power.

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But there's probably not so great coverage there since its in a metal casing. Maybe a reason why it drains.

steady void
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Another thing i have thought about is to motorize the patio awning. Anyone knows if there is a built solution for it? Its a hand cranked one to a metal loop.
I guess my own is an option.

snow mantle
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seems nobody has invented blockout blinds which would work for me yet

tepid heart
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Check out The Hookup YouTube channel. Rob did a video on curtains/blinds recently.

snow mantle
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i think part of the problem is how windows work here

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and the need to have them open often

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while also having the blinds blocking out as much light as possible

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heh.. seems I'm already subscribed to that channel

snow mantle
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i actually want to replace my curtains with something that fits into the window recess to reclaim some space

dim spire
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Anyone have reccomendations for a cheaper robot vaccum? I want to get something that will just go over my hardwood floors, but I don't want to spend $500. Any good budget options?

flint dawn
snow mantle
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we just got a roborock s6 maxv but i wouldn't call that cheap.. and it doesn't integrate with home assistant

flint dawn
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does anyone have a recommendation for blinds/shades? needs to be motorized and integrate with HA somehow, and obviously custom size. Ikea is the obvious cheaper option but they don't go wide enough for my needs.

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it seems like the entire first page of google hits is run by one company operating under different brands

snow mantle
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i need recessed blockout blinds that open left to right and integrate.. have found nothing like that

tepid heart
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The options Rob looked at in the video I mentioned above can be fitted to just about any type of left - right curtain.

snow mantle
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show me a recessed blockout blind that it would work with 😛

flint dawn
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can you link again? maybe i'm blind (ha! pun!) but im only seeing a video about lights

snow mantle
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i can't even find any non-electric blinds which meet my requirements

flint dawn
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out of curiosity-- why left to right?

snow mantle
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because the window opens left to right

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flint dawn
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the window I want to cover with the blinds i'm looking for opens left to right, but I want top-bottom to block the rising sun (east facing)

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@tepid heart yeah that's why I was confused... I was looking for a video link and the most recent video link was on lights 🙂 thanks

snow mantle
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with a rollerblind i wouldn't be able to open the window and block light at the same time.. that's 95% of the use case

flint dawn
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makes sense

snow mantle
flint dawn
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I had a taller (well, same height but added another 1.5ft lower) window installed in my office. The window was so high I could only see clouds.... now I can see my front yard

snow mantle
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literally the top link on a google search

flint dawn
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@dim spire that channel tom linked has a <$500 robo vac video

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hah. I just subscribed to this channel, seems helpful

snow mantle
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its pretty good. well thought out videos covering most of the points that youd have questions about

flint dawn
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does anyone have a recommendation on a garden hose valve? I don't need anything too fancy. Maybe solar recharge or an option to plug in to the wall... otherwise I'm just gonna on/off on a schedule + weather

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i dont need an entire irrigation system, this will just control my soaker hoses

dim spire
dim spire
tacit cypress
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Hi! When I make a scene with Yeelight color bulbs which sets them to white, the bulbs light at full brightness during setup, but then dim after I save the scene. When I invoke the scene, they appear dim again, but when I change the color temperature they go back to full brightness again. Any ideas why?

ember cargo
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not quite sure where to ask this, but can you buy something w/ home assistant pre-set up or do you just make one on your own w/ a raspberry pi?

gloomy spoke
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You can buy a Blue, but the primary method is doing it yourself

indigo idol
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Hello guys!
Anyone has third party lights in your hue hub? Does homeasssistsnt’s Hue integration bring over the third part lights?
I’m asking because third party lights in Hue aren’t brought to HomeKit when integrated with HomeKit. I’m a bit hesitated to add a DIY light strip to Hue hub.

naive mulch
heady hedge
heady hedge
flint dawn
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@heady hedge you should go on tour. Your comedy might have a following with the right crowd

snow mantle
delicate sequoia
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hey, what is the cheapest products for power switches? Preferably Z-Wave, shipping to europe 😛 thanks 🙏

fringe moon
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ZigBee yes

delicate sequoia
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thanks, will look around

delicate sequoia
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ConBee II?

winged knoll
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No 😂

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First pick your integration, then pick your stick - see the pinned messages in #zigbee-archived

delicate sequoia
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what would you prefer, zha or deconz?

fringe moon
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Zigbee2mqtt

delicate sequoia
winged knoll
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Nope

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They have pretty extensive docs

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The hardest part is usually understanding Zigbee, but if you know how Z-Wave works, you're 99% of the way there

fringe moon
delicate sequoia
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@winged knoll nice, thank you

drifting grove
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Hi Everyone! New to Home Assistant, gotten started this weekend. I have a Fibaro Key Fob paired to my HA, receiving events well. I want to enable Lock Mode on it; so I have set parameters 1 and 2 to the required values and woken up the device - but the key fob just wont go into lock mode! Any idea what I need to do? The manual mentions setting the PROTECTION command class, any way i can do that?

winged knoll
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The #zwave-archived channel can help, if you tell them which Z-Wave integration you use

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It's also worth taking the time to read the channel topics - at the top of the window

drifting grove
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Thanks and apologies!

delicate sequoia
winged knoll
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If you're in the UK yes

delicate sequoia
pastel plinth
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uses the HA rest API to control a light - pretty simple but is a fun project with a cool board

gloomy spoke
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now you just need to add it to HACS

bright jacinthBOT
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Home Assistant Community Store is the successor to the old Custom Updater, and can do so much more - you should check it out. They even have a Discord server for issues with HACS itself.

Command '~hacs' was invoked by: RobC
dawn arrow
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Howdy all, does anyone know what the Arlec/Deta Grid Connect stuff really is? I mean it's clearly re-badged stuff, so need to know what... Cheers!

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sharp imp
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Hi everyone, a few days ago someone here let me know I could get my eve Aqua into HA using my Apple TV. However I can’t really figure it out, only option I see is to add it to HomeKit via eve app. Any suggestions?

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dawn arrow
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haha I bet

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I just bought it when I was experimenting... soon I'll get Shelly stuff and that will go to Gumtree 😉

oblique sleet
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Hi folks... I'm considering upgrading my Raspberry PI 3B+ based HA using the z-wave.me daughter card/hat. I think I'd like something more like a mini-pc with additional RAM and processor. Is there a resource online for hardware options?

dawn arrow
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Not being snide, just wondering =|-]

oblique sleet
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@dawn arrow well, I've read in a few places that the Pi4 seems to have heat and CPU auto-throttle issues

dawn arrow
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ah interesting

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you know if you have something (a NAS etc) it's great to run in a container...

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I'm slowly getting to grips with running it in docker, and very happy so far

oblique sleet
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yes, I'm familiar with containers. Mostly though I just run Linux native since I'm happy at the shell prompt

dawn arrow
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so I have a pi3+ too, running Raspbian, using docker (and the awesome TUI "ctop") and it barely touches the CPU, except at container start/ (ctop shows this)

oblique sleet
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the reason I'm considering upgrading is because my Pi3 seems to be getting slower as I add more devices. I'm over 100 now and the automations "Hey Siri, set the master bedroom fan to 25%" now have about a 3 to 5 second delay

dawn arrow
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lol wow, I did the "IRC thing" of typing in s / boot / container start / and it changed my last post!

dawn arrow
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are you looking for a NUC or something? if you go the docker path then you really need the most Linux compatible computer...

oblique sleet
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I'm looking for recommendations, and I have questions - like, how do I get a daughter card for zwave, etc

dawn arrow
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this is drool-worthy...

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ah yeah, I've read people using zwave USB sticks a lot

oblique sleet
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it would be very sexy if I could find a fanless solution

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I'm annoyed by fans. .lol

dawn arrow
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perhaps re-purpose a router 😄 Just working on a DDWRT router on the weekend and someone in a forum asked about fans, someone else pointed out that Router CPUs can run at over 100C so no need for fans.

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much hotter than "computer" CPUs

oblique sleet
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I'll bookmark that! thanks

dawn arrow
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What zwave daughter board do you have?

oblique sleet
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for the intel nuc, do you know if ram is soldered on?

dawn arrow
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it looks like it's normal ram

oblique sleet
dawn arrow
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and m2 SSD!!!!!

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ah yeah, that's what I was reading about, looks awesome!

oblique sleet
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works great

dawn arrow
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good to know =|-] (haven't worked out how to stop Dischord converting emojis so reverting to my twin fin mohawk one lol)

oblique sleet
dawn arrow
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as a Linux admin I have found over decades that HP stuff works great with Linux so YES!

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(I'm typing on an HP lappy running Ubuntu lol - can't get the fingerprint reader or the 3G slot working, other than that it's OOB perfect)

oblique sleet
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my first career was a unix admin also.

dawn arrow
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Ah nice 🙂

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so yeah, right from the start HP have been good to Linux, especially with printer drivers when they were scarce.

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I certainly don't look anywhere else usually.

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(I did work for HP's Linux team in Melbs but that's not influencing this comment, just for the record lol - was a fan well before)

oblique sleet
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the big question though is how to transfer the devices from one zwave controller to another without having to re-pair all of them by hand.

dawn arrow
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those things are north of $1k new though, bit of a step up from a Pi4...

dawn arrow
oblique sleet
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yeah

dawn arrow
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so then if you do upgrade to a pi4, it's a zero config thing hey

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I'm looking at going for a pi4 and hang a spare USB3 SSD off it, once I have a configuration worthy of it.

bright jacinthBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
Command '~what' was invoked by: colonel_hacker
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tepid heart
oblique sleet
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@frail depot it's not, it's in the zwave.me daughter card

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so I guess the 'best' temporary solution is to upgrade to a Pi4 and hope for the best

torn spoke
upbeat night
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Hey all, need some advice - im running HA on a raspberry pi 4 2GB at the moment and everything is running great however i noticed my RAM usage is quite high at 90% so im thinking of buying the raspberry pi 4 4GB - will this be a straightforward swap of SD Card or a more involved migration process?

winged knoll
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upbeat night
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upbeat night
winged knoll
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HAOS has limited support for many tools

dawn arrow
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no, you'd need to install it, it's not in most distros by default (yet...)

winged knoll
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And installing software on HAOS is largely not a thing 😉

dawn arrow
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not that I personally use HAOS any more, but how would I raise that as a suggestion? GitHub?

winged knoll
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Well, the point is that it's all Docker containers, you don't install software inside a container

dawn arrow
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ya

winged knoll
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You could raise it as a feature for the add-on though, but it may not be able to see the host

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(I think if it runs in privileged mode it can, but I may be wrong)

dawn arrow
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htop runs the same as top if that's what you are getting at?

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I could write an add on hey 🙂

tepid heart
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htop is available in the web terminal community addon.

dawn arrow
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ah nice

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if your terminal supports it it has mouse support for sorting columns as well as killing processes etc, very very useful.

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htop, ctop, iotop... there is a bounty of awesome "top" programs out there these days...

gentle fossil
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bashtop is the real deal

dawn arrow
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oh wow yeah that's b b beautiful

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gets tear in eye

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I've got a zoom call tomorrow, that's definitely going up on the big screen behind me hehe

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strange though, it doesn't show process 1...

dawn arrow
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just asking as you suggested it... I'll read up on it, it's not important at all, clearly init or whatever must be on =|-]

scenic plaza
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What smart lock are people using in the UK that integrates with HA ?

plucky oar
exotic cave
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Hi all, does anyone know how strict the minimum system requirements are? Will HA refuse to launch or just complain? Thinking about slapping HA onto my Pentium 3 machine for shits and giggles

winged knoll
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P3 likely out performs a Pi3

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As long as you meet the RAM requirements you'll be "ok"

exotic cave
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I'm going to have to find larger PC133 modules then. Only have 768MB right now

winged knoll
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It may not be fun, but if you run a stripped down distro and #551864459891703809 then it'll likely be ok

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Docker is right out, so no HAOS/Container/Supervised for you

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768 MB for a minimal OS and HA should be ok

exotic cave
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POG

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I'm sure a Pi3 out performs the P3 in Multi-core though

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😉

winged knoll
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Well, one way to find out 😄

fringe moon
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Pentium 3, even I haven't seen one of those... In close to a decade

scenic plaza
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Does anyone use the yale conexis L1 ? Im looking for a smart lock in the UK that works with HA (@ me)

shadow tundra
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Hi! Can anyone recommend air quality monitors, preferably cheap since I need one for each room? I'm specifically looking for something like total VOCs and preferably a breakdown of HCHO. Thanks!

tranquil nest
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@shadow tundra if you find something, I'd be interested. I'd also love to track CO2

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Does anybody have a suggestion for a wifi doorbell that runs on batteries? I don't have power to the doorbell spot unfortunately

heady hedge
hollow bramble
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Just spent the last hour or so trying to answer this question but have come up with nothing conclusive so apologize if this has been asked several thousand times but...

"Are there any smart plugs available for purchase in North America that can still be flashed OTA?"

heady hedge
solar jackal
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So I'm trying to install home assistant alongside pie hole, grafana and some other docker containers using iot stack but I have an 8 GB ram Raspberry Pi which requires the 64-bit version of home assistant. How do I go about installing all of that on a SSD?

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I've looked at some videos but the whole 32bit/64bit thing is confusing me.

hollow bramble
jolly tinsel
viscid minnow
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Has anyone got some experience with the Broadlink RM4c Mini? I can't get it to accept commands. Neither with Home Assistant nor with Broadlink Manager.

olive jetty
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does anyone have suggestions for light bulbs that don't run on wifi and that have the power on state?

heady hedge
olive jetty
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Well bassically, when the power goes off and on it remembers what state (on/off) it was in, so if there is a power outage at night the lights will stay off

heady hedge
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Ah - Zigbee tends to turn on after a power cut

olive jetty
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Yeah, i guess my best bet would be a z wave light bulb then

heady hedge
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Had a quick look in the ZigBee spec - Can't see power on state mentioned anywhere. Can't see it in the cluster info for my lamps either.
You could reset the state with HA but the lights would turn on and then off.

valid spindle
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It is the default behavior for Hue-bulbs, at least

shadow tundra
heady hedge
heady hedge
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static horizon
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Seems a lot of the ESP devices have updated firmware and tuya-convert won't work anymore. Anyone know of an RGBW bulb that has recently worked?

hollow bramble
dawn arrow
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I'm looking at replacing my "toy" stuff with Shelley stuff...

static horizon
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@dawn arrow I've got several shelly 2.5s, work great.

dawn arrow
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that's great to know @static horizon cheers!

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from what I've read they're pretty solid eh

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I'm just "getting over the phase" of buying every "smart" thing I see and trying to kludge it all in - pretty tedious, and I don't see why I need to register everything on some cloud server somewhere either 😉

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Hey while I'm here - can someone recommend the best way to DIY your own smart stuff to integrate with HA? That is, what board is best? ESP32? I've installed a heap of LED strips that I'll be needing to decouple from their manufacturers cloud rubbish.

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(I want wifi only)

static horizon
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I've done a strip or 2 with those nodemcu boards and work very well

dawn arrow
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Thanks for that =|-]

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Ah yes, an esp32 would be overkill huh

static horizon
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I think the nodemcu IS an esp chip

gloomy spoke
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nodemcu is a board/platform that uses an ESP8266

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or ESP32, but usually 8266

dawn arrow
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yeah but I think the 8266 is smaller and no so loaded with (mostly not needed) features.

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I think please don't hold me to that ;]

gloomy spoke
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that's true

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I'm just drawing the distinction between the ESP8266, which is in lots of different products, and the NodeMCU platform, which is a mass produced dev platform based around it

dawn arrow
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yeah, IIRC most things I've looked inside has one...

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NodeMCU looks cool... so does esphomelib

tepid heart
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There's an ESP32 board with the same physical footprint as the Wemos D1 mini. Cheaper than most NodeMCU ESP8266 boards too. Search aliexpress for "ESP32 mini". It's my preferred ESP board, loads of i/o and better processor & peripherals than the ESP8266 for pretty much the same price.

heady hedge
midnight ibex
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Hello there! 🙂
is there a difference between shelly plug and the shelly plug s? Or just size? Cause a the bigger is more expensive.

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I found it. The difference is in the max load.

frozen arrow
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it seems for around the same price I could build a new pi4 with an SSD in a nice case, or I can buy a HP Elitedesk G2 used

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which do people think is the better platform for HA?

zealous dune
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its a choice between a real computer and a pi

fringe moon
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You mean an actual usable and reliable platform or a kids toy @zealous dune

zealous dune
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well i was trying not to be harsh

frozen arrow
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that was what I thought, but lots of the online video people are very excited about the pi4 and an ssd, as its' completely silent when passive cooled etc

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I suppose it depends on whether I can get a comms cupboard or the HA box needs to be in my living room

fringe moon
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The pi or the odroid is fine for running a few small tasks, with an ssd

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but at that price you can get a lot more

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especially used

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and it's a lot better to have a system running at 10% load constantly than a system running at 80% load constantly

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even more so with users running HAOS, where adding a new "piece" is just a click away

frozen arrow
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fair enough, thanks

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I'll keep watching ebay

fringe moon
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mostly any laptop or minicomputer from the last 10 years will be a good choice

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except atom

frozen arrow
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is it usually best to put ubuntu on them or run them as virtual machines through windows?

winged knoll
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Debian

fringe moon
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Ubuntu ? no

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Windows ? no

winged knoll
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Not Windows, not Ubuntu

zealous dune
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ubuntu server is quite ok but debian is the best

winged knoll
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Ubuntu LTS is ok... most of the time

fringe moon
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If you know what you are doing

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especially when upgrading

toxic steppe
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Hello, Is there anyone here using the aqara gateway? If so is it possible to control it through Home assistant (homekit) and the Aqara app at the same time?

zealous dune
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there's not much control of the gateway through HA

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when using Homekit integration

toxic steppe
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I meant the sensors behind the gateway. I've got some Xiaomi smoke detectors and they don't seem to work properly in ha and I cannot fix it. Would be nice to get an notification when something happens in the house..

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So I thought If I could add those in the Xiaomi/Aqara hub as well then I would at least get a heads-up

frozen arrow
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I have those devices connected via the Aqara gateway at the moment and providing events. What problems are you having?

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which integration did you install?

toxic steppe
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Homekit_controller is taking care of the Aqara hub. The sensors aren't updating at all. Even after a year or so the battery level is still 100%. When I press the button on the detector I can hear "Link confirmed" but the status in HA never changes even when I trigger the alarm

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It keeps saying "Clear"

zealous dune
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i have a G2H hub over Homekit integration and connected devices show up only the camera is spotty

toxic steppe
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Yeah they show up correctly and I can add them but they just never update.

zealous dune
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probably the homekit part not pushing updates regularly

toxic steppe
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The temperature and humidity sensor works great though

zealous dune
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i have mine only as a test so i don't know where and how often it fails

golden cairn
static beacon
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@toxic steppe what exactly doesn't work?

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I also have the Aqara honeywell smoke sensors linked with zha and they work fine for me

toxic steppe
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I completely redone everything (linking and adding) and now they seem to work fine indeed. No clue why it didn't work in the first place. Just triggered the alarm and HA called me through telegram

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Thanks though!

static beacon
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👍

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I couldn't fine anything in the docs about pairing these things to the zigbee network but you need to 3x short press the pairing button

toxic steppe
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Yeah the documentation is quite bad indeed

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Well unless you can read chinese I suppose 🙂

static beacon
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🤣

earnest river
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Hiya, Anyone have any strong recommendations on smart deadbolts? Including wifi over z-wave over zigbee? Assuming I have a very solid unifi wifi network and zero z-anything at this time (but am willing to start down the road if warranted)...

static horizon
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Thought I'd mention it here since I asked about gosund devices that are still tasmota-flashable: I ended up using the localtuya integration with my new bulbs, works great. Not as ideal as tasmota flashed, but at least I'm no longer dependent on the tuya cloud service.

little ginkgo
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Anyone know if the PoE hat fits in the standard pi4 case with the pi?

heady hedge
little ginkgo
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Whatever you'd recommend for active POE

haughty dragon
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Good evening, I'm looking for an offline smart thermostat for a modulating CV combi system.
I'm struggling to dig through all the tado's and ecobees of this world to find whether they are cloudless or not.
Is there a list / table of cloudless hardware?

winged knoll
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Not as such, but each integration tells you (under IoT Class)

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Things like Hive can be either Cloud (connected to their cloud service) or local (connected to your Zigbee controller)

keen aspen
winged knoll
keen aspen
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Thanks, I've found that page, but the Smartmi Air purifier isn't listed as compatible.

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Or is the Smartmi Air purifier the same as the xiaomi one?

winged knoll
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I don't know, and Google isn't proving helpful

keen aspen
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Okay, then I'd rather buy the Xiaomi 3h. Thanks for looking👍

last plaza
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Weird thing happened. I switched my zwave stick and had to reset all of my wall switches/dimmers. I now have a dimmer that isn't fully turning off the lights. They are very dimly lit. These are dimmable LED lights. Not sure what's going on... Anyone experience something like this?

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Using RF9640 Eaton dimmer

gentle fossil
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sleeper electricity keeps them lit, I see that in bigger houses with long wiring distances

dawn arrow
gloomy spoke
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the 8266-based NodeMCU boards that I got were like $2-3 apiece, sold in packs of 5 or so

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it's an amazingly cheap and capable platform

dawn arrow
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@gloomy spoke yeah it's mind blowing hey...

static beacon
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Is there a way to clone a SD card so that i can merge the whole setup to another sd card and most importantly that it will work the same way when i plugin the new sd card? Which program should i use?

winged knoll
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Clone, yes. Merge, not so much

static beacon
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sorry bad english

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so clone and put in the new sd card would work?

winged knoll
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Sure

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Win32DiskImager is one of many tools used

static beacon
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The reason i ask is because i use an old sd card now and im not sure if it will hold very long

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I saw samsung and other companies are selling endurance sd cards with 5 years warranty so i guess those are designed for things like this

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thanks for the program tinkerer i will try to clone it and test it out

fringe moon
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I bought a WD purple card on recommendation from @winged knoll

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so far so good

winged knoll
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Yeah, mine are all behaving fine, despite silly things like running Plex on them 😄

static beacon
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I love wd products

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been running a wd red hdd for 8 years 24/7 without any issues

zealous dune
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make that 12years 😄

static beacon
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haha

fringe moon
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I have ... 8 or so WD white drives in my NAS, great drives

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and with norwegian consumer law I just replaced 4 older WD drives with 4 new ones because they had SMART errors

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😄

static beacon
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Just reading about these cards. Looks very promising. designed for 24/7 video recording

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and 128gb for 40 euro is not expensive either

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thanks for the advice i will order that one

vapid crystal
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Hey all, I've got some Sengled soft light bulbs already that work great but I'd like some that can do both higher and lower color temps depending on the time of day. I'm not as concerned with the automation behind this but the actual bulbs themselves. Does anyone have any recommendations on good brands? Looks like there are some Hues that do this but wanted to see if anyone else does something like this with a cheaper but good bulb.

winged knoll
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I use some Ikea smart bulbs, those work well with that

vapid crystal
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Thank you, I will take a look at that. I wish there was an Ikea closer to me 😩

naive mulch
west thorn
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It's been a few years since I spent time researching the state of smart-home hardware. I've bought a new house and am moving in in a few weeks so I want to start out right. My current plans are to start with some RGB downlights in the kids rooms linked to smart switches so they can turn on/off or switch between scenes without interacting with the app or voice control. I also want to setup smart locks for exterior doors and already have a ring doorbell and some nest thermostats. So my question is really about what you would do if you were starting from scratch right now with lights and locks. I'm in the US PNW area. The house is 3200 sq ft and is pretty spread out. I feel like I should be committing to one protocol due to the large square footage and from what I have been reading it sounds like zigbee is pretty mature now.
Is anyone aware of good switches, wafer downlights, and smart locks that support zigbee?

  • lock: would prefer zigbee, touchpad and key. But would be willing to go without key if the best products don't use them.
  • led wafer downlights: would prefer zigbee, rbg
  • Smart switch: would prefer not having batteries, but to be a smart switch only and not actually interrupt the circuit. Are there any switches that let you manually turn on/off the circuit if you need to but otherwise just operate as smart switches?

Sorry for so many questions, the space has just changed a lot and there are an overwhelming number of options when I search for this stuff. There is no real limit on the budget.

agile oak
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So, I am just getting started with home assistant. So far all my stuff is wifi based. What I am looking for are battery operated buttons.. But do you think I can find wifi buttons? Anyone have any leads on cheap ones? or maybe zigbee may be a bit better? Then I would need a hub or USB stick to act as one. Any suggestions? I am open to any and welcome a discussion so I can make good choices.

winged knoll
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Zigbee FTW

chrome lion
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Hi, needing some advice on simple BLE presence. I have an Oven with a powered USB port and HA running on a raspberry Pi. I was thinking of using a ESP32 as a BLE beacon that when powered by the oven would be detected by the build in Bluetooth of the Pi. This would let HA know the oven is on. Any advise on what andrino sketch I should use and how to configure HA to detect this would be helpful.

winged knoll
agile oak
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Now how easy are they to set up? I really don't want to get into editing config files and all that if I have a choice.

winged knoll
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Well, that's down to which Zigbee integration you pick, but trivial

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I use Z2M, adding a new device is a couple of clicks and then it's in HA

agile oak
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Okay, i am quite new to the world of Zigbee. I do know it requires a hub.. If the Z2M the hub? A firmware that runs on some hubs?

winged knoll
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Well, your "hub" is a USB stick

bright jacinthBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's CC2652P2 based coordinators and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

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winged knoll
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Pick an integration (zha or Z2M), then pick a recommended USB stick for that integration

heady hedge
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My preference is for a separate ZigBee hub so that you can pick the location but that still leaves you with a choice of software.

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ZHA needs to run on HA hardware

agile oak
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It has to run on hardware provided by HA? Or needs to plug into the system running the HA software?

heady hedge
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Plug in... Preferably with a USB externsion cable

gloomy spoke
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if you want to move it around, you're better off using Z2MQTT I would think

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rather than some third-party hub

heady hedge
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deCONZ and ZigBee2MQTT can run on separate hardware (Raspberry, etc)

agile oak
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Oh, so Zigbee2MQTT runs on its own seperate hardware? And then takes the Zigbee "information" and patches it through to the LAN network?

gloomy spoke
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through MQTT

heady hedge
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MQTT is quite mature on HA now

agile oak
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Yea, But I have mosquitto running on HA right now to het the Tasmota devices I am using working.. So with Zigbee2MQTT I assume once the Zigbee2MQTT device is set up properly any Zigbee device added will just show up in HA?

heady hedge
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ZigBee2MQTT has the maximum hacking factor. deCONZ is from Dresden Electronics and is supported by them

gloomy spoke
heady hedge
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HA has MQTT Auto-Discovery

agile oak
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Okay. Some things to process. I order a rasberry PI4 I decided not to use for HA (I run RA in a VM on my server in the basement running ESXi) so maybe I will use the PI4 for Zigbee2MQTT

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Thank you for your help. I will pop over to #zigbee-archived when I am ready to continue.

heady hedge
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If your server is in the basement then go for a separate ZigBee setup.
The other benefit is that you can run other SW on the RPi like presence detection, etc

grim turret
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Are there any wifi mqtt rotary encoder dimmers on the market?

hard zealot
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Any suggestions of how to setup my WiFi Network, i plan to use 20-30 Shelly devices over WiFi.... I have Assus RT-AC86U but im not sure if it can handle all those devices plus phones, tablets, chromecast, etc devices as well... Any suggestions?

lyric merlin
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whats the best approach for HA on small footprint device? I'm running into stability issues with Rpi4

gloomy spoke
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it depends on the stability issues, but booting and running from an SSD will cure many ills

lyric merlin
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ive read that running off of SD cards is somewhat fraught with issues

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ah, was just going to ask if that was worth pursuing cheers @gloomy spoke

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it just seems to lock up every 4 to 5 days, no errors, nothing, it just freezes

gloomy spoke
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probably a bad SD card or bad power supply or overheating

lyric merlin
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I was considering getting a cheap mini pc off ebay

gloomy spoke
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that would be a better option

fringe moon
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Any laptops or minicomputer not running an atom CPU from the last 10 years will be an upgrade @lyric merlin

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In terms of stability, flexibility and usability

lyric merlin
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yeah, I'll probably pick up a cheap i3 mini pc

fringe moon
lyric merlin
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also considering hosting it on my freenas server but that might run into some issues with Bluetooth range

fringe moon
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Just use esp devices

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Freenas jail is a good option

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Or just do truenas scale and docker

lyric merlin
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freenas jail would be my pref, I if I can get round the bluetooth probs, havent spent much time looking into ESP yet

fringe moon
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Using multiple esp32 devices > ha with a Bluetooth dongle

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Decoupling and flexible

lyric merlin
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definitely something I need to look into

nimble pecan
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Has anyone ever had a rf controlled fan working with portish flashed sonoff rf Bridge? The remote for the fan dl-4114

finite juniper
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Hey Everyone, planning to add a few more plugs and can’t decide whether to go with TP Link 103s or zigbee. Have ZHA and z-Wave integration currently set up with end points like door locks but no mains, so I don’t have a mesh at present. Also, have close to 20 TP link products including switches, plugs and strip. what would be your suggestion?

left glade
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Had a Samsung S7 running Fully kiosk to exclusively view HA kitchen lights and media center.. Wife asked me to help her force the phone back into the case.. The battery swoll 3 times its size and popped out the screen and case. Needless to say that death trap is in a metal container in the garage. Any recomendations for a replacement? Lost cost and located on kitchen cabinet. (Cant attach pictures of the bomb waiting to go off)

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Low cost*

mossy pumice
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What would be a cheap way to get a ton of buttons that I can use for whatever I want?

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like something that can be connected to HA as a sensor

naive forge
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Does anyone know if the Shelly 1PM installed on a light switch which turns a ceiling fan and ceiling fan light on and off with one switch?

heady hedge
heady hedge
# finite juniper Hey Everyone, planning to add a few more plugs and can’t decide whether to go wi...

Zigbee with repeaters is ok but I would avoid any WiFi devices that use manufacturer apps. A few people are suffering now as Xiaomi decided to block local control of their devices without warning. For WiFi I would recommend Shelly and any other device that can be reflashed with ESPHome or Tasmota. Sonoff devices are another option.
With WiFi you should always ask the question 'What do I do if the manufacturer removes cloud support?'

heady hedge
restive nymph
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Hi there! I am currently trying to figure out what hardware I need to manage 6-8 poe 4k cameras, doing 24/7 recording while having person detection as well to trigger lights/speakers. Additionally I want to be able to see a live-feed when being out of house. While reading some old discussions I noticed some say NUCi5 is good enough for detection? If really needed I would be willing to get any NUC but just want to make sure I dont buy something thats just overkill (NUC10+?). And for the cameras to connect do I just need any poe switch? Anything else I should consider?

winged knoll
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I'd ask the folks in #cameras-archived - I know a standard recommendation is to use one of the Coral cards/sticks and Frigate

restive nymph
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Oh I see, sorry. I intentionally split up my question since I thought that this is not a camera-based question on hardware.

winged knoll
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Well, it kind of is, since it's about camera stream processing

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I know that adding a Coral device massively reduces the load on the CPU, but I don't have one so I can't provide actual metrics

restive nymph
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Good point, thanks!

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Is there a reason why you don't have/want a coral?

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IIRC they do call home to google, right? I read something about it using google DNS

winged knoll
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They're just boards, they don't call home

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I only have a single camera and I'm not doing person detection live, so I don't need a board 😄

snow mantle
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I got a coral a few months ago.. as well as a home assistant blue.. they've been sitting in a box since then because it's just too much work to transfer things across.. I just don't have the time :/

finite juniper
dawn arrow
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@fringe moon hey so I'm probably going to try and ESP everything, do I understand correctly that you think that's a good idea? Just trying to thin out the "toys" I've bought along the way to stuff that's HA native...

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"native" you know what I mean 🙂

tepid heart
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It's fine if you have power available. Can be difficult to battery power a sensor that needs to be awake a lot.

dawn arrow
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mmm true...

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@finite juniper Yeah I've been looking at Shelly, looks rock solid, can't wait to get some.

fringe moon
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I run all my esp devices powered, no battery stuff

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for that I do zigbee

dawn arrow
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just a pity Shelly don't seem to do lights (bulbs/strips etc)

tepid heart
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I've got a couple of battery powered ESPs. Mailbox and lane gate. Both are supplemented with a 5V 5W solar panel. Seem to get through winter OK. But then they spend 99% of their time asleep.

dawn arrow
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I love orange lighting at night, so much better for sleep.

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mailbox 😄 sounds cool

tepid heart
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Not impressed with the Shelly door/window sensors. They take 15 seconds to change state and the battery life is woeful.

dawn arrow
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oh thanks for that tip

tepid heart
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I'm slowly beginning to think I might have to go zigbee.

dawn arrow
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easy enough to rig up an espXX with a reed switch anyway huh

tepid heart
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If you have power available.

dawn arrow
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hey here's a question - anyone here soldered leads onto LED strips?

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or is there a clip or something? I don't feel like pulling that all down again to control them

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oh wait - scratch that, it's getting late here - I already realised I can cannibalise the existing plugs.

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@tepid heart I'm in an apartment with only a front door, will probably run power to it as it's only one point of entry

drifting grove
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Hi guys, has anyone some suggestion for POE cheap and small indoor RTSP cameras? I don’t need great quality

winged knoll
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#cameras-archived can likely suggest more, but please do provide the information requested in the pinned message here

knotty mural
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I've been using SmartThings fore years and making the switch to Home Assistant. I was prompted by my hub getting retired by SmartThings. I ended up buying the AeoTec hub for $35, but now I'm thinking I don't want to remain attached to SmartThings. Does anyone know if there's a way for me to use the hub as a zigbee/zwave hub for Home Assistant without all of the SmartThings baggage?

winged knoll
naive mulch
visual grotto
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Hi everyone! I am currently looking at Raspberry Pis and Intel NUCs to run HA on

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I narrowed it down to RPi4 + Max Endurance Sanddisk 64gb microsd VS various used intel NUCs

Most NUCS are on old Intel Atoms, Celerons, or i3s. Is the rpi 4 better than any of those?

winged knoll
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The Pi4 is probably better than the Atom, but other than that, no

visual grotto
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ill save some money and have the advantage of x86 if I go for a used nuc.

winged knoll
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And the NUCs don't run on an SD card that will fail on you

visual grotto
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alright, Ill see if I can get a cheap nuc then. Thanks!

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This one for example would total to around 140 euros for me. Worth it? rPi with all accessories would end up at around 120

winged knoll
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Yes

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PC > Pi 100% of the time (we'll ignore the Atom)

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Anything from the last decade will generally be a better choice

visual grotto
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Wonderful, thanks man

agile oak
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So, I just bought some door sensors designed to work with tuya.. And home assistant doesn't seem to be picking them up.. Quick search from an old post suggests HA may not support them. Would this be correct?

winged knoll
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Yes

agile oak
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Wonderful.. These were the whole basis for my home automation.... Will they support it if flashed with Tasmota.. Or will they even work is flashed with Tasmota? Or should I be searching for a new home automation platform?

winged knoll
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If you can flash them they'll work

agile oak
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Any suggestions where to go for help on that?

bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
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The Tasmota Discord is a good place for that

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IMO you're better off sending them back and going down the Zigbee route

agile oak
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Yea, you may be right. Any suggestions for cheap zigbee door and motion sensors? I bought these casue they were like $12 canadain each..

winged knoll
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Xiaomi Aqara ones are typically under $10 when bought in bulk from AliExpress

agile oak
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Yea, didnt' want to wait 2 months for it...

winged knoll
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Then you get to pay a bit more shrug

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Some of the stores there will deliver in a couple of weeks

agile oak
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Well, I will hit the tasmota discord server and see what I can see.

gloomy sequoia
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anyone care to recommend a local-control smart plug? I'm in the US and have only used wyze ones so far, and looking to get a few more, but thought it'd be wyze (lol) to get something less... cloud controlled 😅

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wifi or zigbee would be workable for me

wise kindle
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I'd recommend a smart relay over a plug and you could just wire it into an extension cord or whatever else you'd like to tie it into.

heady hedge
heady hedge
heady hedge
winged knoll
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Yup, I recommended them for a reason 😉

heady hedge
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And the window sensors are very small

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Shame about the issue with LAN Control on XIaomi lamps

winged knoll
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Well, Xiaomi aren't Xiaomi like you're thinking. Many many different companies make things that are sold under that name

heady hedge
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I know, however YeeLight are blaming Xiaomi for the LAN Control lockdown

keen crystal
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Does anyone have any experience with using an external bluetooth dongle for the rpi4? I disabled the internal bluetooth so that hci0 would be the dongle, but it doesnt get any data from my LE sensors, and the dongle is BLE compatible.

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hassio is running inside a container, and the usb dongle shows up inside the container as hci0

desert summit
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Anyone have good recommendations for fans that work well with Homeassistant?

keen crystal
grave frost
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Are aqara door sensors well regarded? I saw xiomi keep getting recommended but wondering if I can just get those ?

ashen apex
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Can anyone help me debug why my new Conbee II isn't pairing? Using ESXi VM of HA Supervised. Can find the device and add via ZHA, but pairing just times out no matter the device.

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Was previously using CC2531 on Zigbee2MQTT.

astral epoch
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Question: Does anyone know how or has been able to add Nanoleaf Essentials products (A19 bulbs and lightstrips) to Home Assistant? With much tinkering I got my Mini Triangles working but these three are the outliers.

Afaik the official integration won't work and none of these devices seem to show up with an IP on my router.

paper fern
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Evening everyone, I just went online purchase some wyze contact sensors and was surprised that they are not available any longer.

brazen turret
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on some off chance does anyone have a Samsung Frame TV and is able to choose power on, off, or art mode reliably? It looks like the default integration nor Jaruba's custom TIZEN integration handles Frames well

drifting grove
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So... Hi!

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anyone have experience with the matrix io boards?

gloomy spoke
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Try #botspam

drifting grove
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Matrix Creator isn't a hardware device?

winged knoll
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It's more a #diy-archived thing - as explained in the channel topic here

ionic meadow
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Is there anyone who can reliably say how reliable is the drive on HA blue ? hass

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I'm thinking about purchasing this vs rpi3 i have now

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With write endurance sd

winged knoll
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#330990055533576204 would be the place to ask - the answer is likely to be better than the SD card, but not as good as an SSD

runic yoke
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Hi together. I am trying to integrate my Enocean Eltako FT55 switch into HA. The device ID is needed for the configuration.yaml. Unfortuneably the sticker with the ID on the back of my device is unreadable. Is there any chance to read out the device ID?

bright jacinthBOT
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@runic yoke Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

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drifting grove
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Hi all, can anyone suggest cheap tablets that I can add to my walls?

heady hedge
fringe moon
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I bought a chuwi tablet from AliExpress for $100ish

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Best tablet I've ever used

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Snappy and fast

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Use it as a fridge screen

ebon cliff
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I have got hold of a TuYa TS0041 switch that I want to use to control a group of six Ikea bulbs. I am using Zigbee2MQTT and everything is setup (and the group added to HA).
I am not sure of the best way to configure the switch. I have set up an automation (https://community.home-assistant.io/t/light-automation-via-switch/299722) for toggling the group but having done some testing this seems to have a lag of anything up to about 4 seconds (turning the group on/off via HA app is near enough instant)

Is there a better way to setup the switch (I tried binding it in Zigbee2MQTT but it didn't want to play)

grim cosmos
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Does anyone know something about xiaomi gw multicast? I have problem with the hub that send Mc to ha, after 2h the connection lost and I have to reload the integration again and again, someone know something?

fringe moon
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Well, do you have a flat network? Single subnet? With host mode on containers?

slate stream
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Hey all! I hope you guys can help me out. I got these ZigBee bulbs wired to a regular switch button. Zo the button is kinda useless since it's pretty much got to be on all times, so the bulbs can be controlled.

Now how can I get my girlfriend to remain happy and still make practical use of the switch?

I'm considering switching over from a single switch to a dual one, with some hardware behind it like a ZigBee or Shelly device so it doesn't actually control the bulbs but just a HA automation.

What hardware can do that?

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Can a Shelly flashed with tasmota do that for example?

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And which one? The regular blue one?

heady hedge
grim cosmos
flint reef
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Hey! I would really appreciate some help with a Raspbee on Pi 3B+

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I'm getting this error:
device state timeout ignored in state 2
I already updated the Raspbee's firmware and reinstalled hass.io twice.

winged knoll
slate stream
flint reef
near plume
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Hiya i have a tricky question :
I have an old school ampli and an echo dot connected to it.
How do i turn on the ampli (i suppose a shelly for this would be the best) when there is sound coming out of the dot ?

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any device that could detect if there is sound on the jack ?

main vigil
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has anyone setup the yaml for this switch in esphome. SANA SW02-02 Switch I have everything working other than the physical buttons on the switch.

bright jacinthBOT
solemn quest
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not sure if this is the right place or not but wanted to see if anyone could help me out.

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looking to build my home assistant for a new house and have a few things in mind. I want to have a dedicated device for running HA but i also was thinking about migrating my current plex server. it is sitting in an old pc with a i5-6500, 16 gigs of ram, and 12tb of storage. well i have finally gotten to the point of needing more storage but i dont have any more room in the case for more drives. so i think i want to move it. Is there a decently priced server chasis that i can buy off ebay to run both of these? am i better off having two separate machines running each on their own?

winged knoll
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If you spec something that can run VMWare ESXi then you have a lot of flexibility in what you do, though honestly you'd be as well to just drop Debian+Docker on it

fringe moon
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That hardware should be fine, and also Debian + docker + KVM will be a lot more flexible

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ESXi is great, for VMs only

solemn quest
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being my first experience with Debian, currently just running the plex on a windows install. any way to move everything i already have setup and working easily?

winged knoll
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The files, yes, the Plex config... probably not, but the Plex forums would know

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Chassis wise, any HPe or Dell of the last 2 generations is probably quite sufficient. The older you get, the less energy efficient it gets

fringe moon
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Any hpe gen8 or dell x20 or newer will be good

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And there are Plex migration guides on the Plex docs

solemn quest
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ill take a look

neon hemlock
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@solemn quest if you have any transcoding, newer intel CPUs can offload that work far better with newer versions of quicksync

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but that may not be included in some CPUs meant for servers

solemn quest
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hmm i wonder if i should just keep them separate since the current machine is running everything fine and then just find better ways to mount drives or get bigger capacity drives and migrate to those

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and then get the HA its own box

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to run on

neon hemlock
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depends on if you have performance issues today

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could just move the existing machine into a case friendlier to holding many drives

solemn quest
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zero issues with the plex machine right now

native pilot
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Can anyone recommend a zwave or zigbee door sensor that runs on AA or AAA batteries? I am so sick of replacing coin cell batteries, being able to use rechargeables would be a big win

winged knoll
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Aeotec do a rechargeable door sensor (Z-Wave)

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Can't say that replacing a single coin cell every other year is a big deal for my Xiaomi sensors though

paper fern
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Hi, I've been using wyze contact sensors and really like them. I went to order more and they look like they are being replaced with something new (I got on their list to alert me if they get more in stock). What wireless door/window sensors would you recommend if they become obselete?

winged knoll
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Xiaomi Aqara (Zigbee)

native pilot
winged knoll
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Well, that points to a broken mesh

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Zigbee devices will go through batteries faster if the mesh isn't strong

native pilot
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Yeah— it probably isn’t strong. I only, currently, use zigbee for the door sensors (zwave for everything else)

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But we’re talking 15 feet and a floor from the zigbee stick

paper fern
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I got about 5 months out of the wyze unit. It is on a public door at work that gets opened and closed no less than 50 times a day.

native pilot
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I’ll look into both the aeotech and Wyze units— thanks!

paper fern
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Looks likle Wyze is out of stock at the moment. They mantion an updated unit coming out.

winged knoll
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15 feet, through walls, that's pushing it more than a little

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You don't have a mesh though

paper fern
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Here is the message on Wyze Website "Wyze Sense is currently not available. Stay tuned for the next generation of Wyze Sense."

flint reef
# winged knoll Xiaomi Aqara (Zigbee)

Do you find them reliable?
From my experience with every connection to any hub other than the original Xiaomi one they disconnect very couple of days.

fringe moon
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I have a couple of dozen Xiaomi sensors

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They never disconnect

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Using zigbee2mqtt and a vast amount of tradfri bulbs

gray ravine
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Hello to all!

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trying to work thru blue tooth presence detection, error is Bluetooth: hciO: RTL: firmware file rtl_bt/rt18761a_fw.bin not found.

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this is on a VirtualBox VM, not sure the next step to get the driver installed. Any help?

pine apex
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Hey, what do y'all do when Home Assistant just doesn't respond?

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I got home this evening to see a daily automation hadn't kicked off. Asked Google to turn the lights normally involved on directly and it said they were offline

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My Pi is running, there haven't been any issues with wifi or power today

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But local IP says site can't be reached

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Do y'all just power cycle? And move on?

agile oak
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Hopefully this is the right place... So, when I tell any of my googl speakers to play media I have on my home assistant server, the speaker makes a "ching" sound like it has received a command, but nothing playes. In addition, when I use :text to speak" nothing happens. Ideas?

earnest river
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Any recommendations on a smart deadbolt? I'm not necessarily asking brand or model, but protocol. I have solid wifi, but I understand that chews on batteries. I will be building my 2nd HA soon, (or going blue) and so I'd like to understand if z-wave or zigbee is the way to go for this deadbolt. I keep reading about hubs getting deprecated or cash-cowing in (i.e. smartthings, wink) so I'm trying to make a call. Any advice/direction would be appreciated.

pine apex
heady hedge
fallow cape
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Connection to the tp-link cloud seems to break every couple of days though which can be annoying but it's much more stable with local control

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I've had some good luck with a meross brand plug but that requires a custom integration and etc, kind of a pain to get going

fringe moon
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I've had a tplink for over 2 years

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Using local control it has never been offline

rocky lodge
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Would anybody help me flash my sonoff 433 RF bridge? Tasmotizer isn't seeing it 😢

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  1. plugged in TX to RX, RX to TX, GND to GND.
  2. Hold the button on the side while.....
  3. Plugin VCC to 3v3.
    But seems my computer doesn't recognize it
bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
rocky lodge
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ok ty

drifting grove
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I have this "Esmlfe 2 in 1 Smart Ceiling Fan Speed Control and Dimmer Light Switch", trying to get things working through the Tuya integration: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PD39NLF

The device is detected as a "fan" and not enabled. (because its part number, "Es-fan-15h-257" has "fan" in it?)

Logs are here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/t8zjz4rv6T/ and I have tried to get the latest updates. Any ideas, especially since I can't find any of these source files in a terminal window? (Also kinda new to Docker and this Alpine flavor of Linux. Help a beginner!)

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Any way to coerce the integration into processing this device differently?

winged knoll
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The files are inside the Docker container, you aren't in the container when you're using the Terminal add-on

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Each add-on is another container

drifting grove
#

Terminal is dropping me onto the Alpine docker host?

winged knoll
#

No

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It's dropping you into a container

drifting grove
#

right

winged knoll
#

The host doesn't run Alpine either

#

The Tuya integration docs explain how to request support for devices that don't work

drifting grove
#

Looking...

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Obs I was trying to trace those errors to a line in the .py files I couldn't find in /usr/src... is there a way to inspect those files?

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as installed, that is. I know I can look at source code on GitHub

winged knoll
#

Sure, how familiar are you with Docker?

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All you need to do is pop open a shell in the HA container

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But... what you find on GitHub is the same thing

drifting grove
#

superficially familiar. 20+ years of experience with Linux and other older approaches to what Docker does.

winged knoll
#

There's nothing on your host that's not on Git

drifting grove
#

right. it's about getting bearings is all

winged knoll
#

HAOS then

drifting grove
#

but I haven't found the entrypoint to, as you say, "pop open a shell in the HA container"

winged knoll
#

#330990055533576204 can help you - ISTR it's deliberately not trivial to do to avoid people breaking things all the time

drifting grove
#

fair to say. I structure a lot of my own software for that kind of thing

#

fundamentally I think ignorance of Docker is what's in my way; probably have to spend a Sunday watching 100-level videos about it.

winged knoll
#

Well, HAOS is set up so that you don't go playing with Docker

drifting grove
#

that too

winged knoll
#

It's an "appliance like" option

drifting grove
#

Yeah, I tried to spin this up with Raspian and ended up confused about whether I'd need the Supervisor after all. ADHD not helping me keep things sorted...

winged knoll
#

You don't need the Supervisor

#

You may want it if you don't want to learn Docker, but there's zero need for it

drifting grove
#

That's good insight for me.

#

I mean, I don't not want to learn Docker. 🙂

winged knoll
#

Put it this way, I'm 4.5 years into my HA journey and I don't even run HA in Docker, never mind with the Supervisor

#

I do use Docker for other things though, just not HA itself

drifting grove
#

It's beginning to sound like I'd get to the finish line faster if I just dropped the HA Core onto Raspian and set forth from there, eh?

winged knoll
#

If you're at home on Linux, it's an easy option - that's why I went for it

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All you need is Python 3.8 or later

#

Building Python from source is time consuming, but trivial, there's pinned steps in #551864459891703809

drifting grove
#

I can apt-get the Python stuff, I'd thought

winged knoll
#

Probably, if your OS has it

drifting grove
#

Looking at it now. (Raspian is a full-stack Debian distro)

winged knoll
#

(I know, I run it 😉 )

#

The challenge is that HA increases the minimum version of Python every year, so 3.9 will be the minimum in December this year, and 3.10 in December next year

drifting grove
#

doesn't sound so bad...

winged knoll
#

It's not IMO, if you've built software from source before it's pretty trivial

drifting grove
#

I make physics simulators and user interfaces for a living

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(as I sit here building python 3.8 from source tarballs on my WSL Debian, just to make things go faster than a pi)

drifting grove
#

Bad data definitely coming through the integration. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5TzYHYXmYF/ In the Tuya app on my phone that ID presents as two switches, a fan speed control, and a dimmer control. Thanks for your guidance today, @winged knoll

normal spire
#

ugh, I know usbip is flaky at times, but have had good luck with it until this week when I tried to start monitoring it so things get restarted and re-bound when something goes awry. apparently after monitoring runs usbip list -r localhost enough times, the devices just drop out of the server's exported device list entirely despite still working through the client side

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I guess I could go to socat with virtual serial devices, but just lose the remote observability that usbipd provides. that's simple enough to replace though I guess

#

wouldn't have so much needless syslog spam from usbip anymore either

mental patio
#

hi. some aromatheapy diffuser working with HA ? (those that can be flashed with tuya are not available anymore)

dark tartan
#

Hi all, I'm looking for a smart power strip that can work with home assistant without the cloud and with a measurement of power consumption for each socket. The ones I find all requires SmartLife which needs internet and I would like to avoid the migration via API on local Tuya. Do you have any suggestion?

winged knoll
#

Zigbee?

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Your options will depend on where in the planet too 😉

bright jacinthBOT
#

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
Command '.what' was invoked by: Tinkerer
fringe moon
#

Smart life usually means esp based though, and can be flashed with tasmota

zealous dune
#

power strips with power monitoing on zigbee are super rare

dark tartan
#

😩

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Italy though

zealous dune
#

even worse

winged knoll
#

I think the Lidl one can do that

dark tartan
#

and yes zigbee

#

I'm baffled that this is so challenging

zealous dune
#

lidl only on/off

winged knoll
#

Oh well 😄

zealous dune
#

its not challenging, your requirements are 😄

#

buy power strip, install tasmota/esphome, finito

winged knoll
#

The single socket one reported power usage... but maybe that's a UK special thing 😄

dark tartan
#

yes I mean it's challenging to satisfy them 😆

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and I don't think kthey are so out of this world

zealous dune
#

manufacturers do

dark tartan
#

I can use the single shelly s plugs

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but I was wondering whether many single plugs would comsume more power than a power strip

zealous dune
#

ofcourse, each has its own smart chip to power

dark tartan
#

yeah, that's what I thought

zealous dune
#

but being on IT standard you don't have the variety

dark tartan
#

I can buy an adaptor?

zealous dune
#

i don't know, can you?

dark tartan
#

I believe I can 😋

#

well I see it's probably not that wise

#

just exploring options

dark tartan
#

I can search google to start learning what to do, any good link to start with you have at hand?

forest zenith
#

Anyone else had problems with yeelight (xiaomi) automations sticking around after deleting them? I have a lightbulb that turns itself off every 30 minutes or so without any automation in home assistant. I've cleaned everything up that I can find but there seems to be some lingering ghost automation.

undone haven
#

Check .storage in your config folder.

forest zenith
#

second question: what usb/hub do most people recommend for zigbee/zwave control on a pi running home assistant?

native pilot
dawn arrow
#

Hey, does anyone use Microchip brand chips for IOT? Would be nice to use a US made chip for things.

mild marsh
#

Hey to all,
I'm searching for a smart plug which is able to monitor the energie costs. I want to integrate this plug via Zigbee in HO. Maybe anyone of you has already experience with this setup.
My goal is to check the coasts of one power adapter. Hope you can help 😉
Have a nice weekend ✌

atomic hearth
#

Anyone using the Sonoff zigbee temperature sensor with Deconz? Does it update its state anymore often than the Aqara ones?

winged knoll
fierce finch
#

hey everyone

smoky moth
#

Heey guys, what if I'm running home assistant on a VM with an SBC that can handle that and want to use the GPIO pins? How should I do that?

forest talon
#

Hey, folks. I have a Stelpro Maestro thermostat, and looking at it I can see that it has an HTTP server on it, but the server root doesn't have any content in it (/ comes back with a 404). I assume there's some API there, but there's no documentation on it. Has anyone spent any time probing them?

magic abyss
#

Evening all, I've been looking on Amazon for WiFi light bulbs but not sure if the ones that say they are compatible with Alex, Google Home etc are compatible with Home Assistant?
Otherwise, if anyone can suggest a product that would be appreciated.

  • UK
  • £15 / $20
  • WiFi
    Thank you!
weak belfry
#

what kind of processor/ ram do I need to display home assistant dashboard?

#

I was thinking of a pizero w but it was too slow.

winged knoll
#

Well, it'll depend in part on what's on your dashboard...

weak belfry
#

Generally speaking? 4 cameras, some entitie statuses... nothing crazy?

winged knoll
#

Camera feeds will require more processing than a bunch of entities

#

I'd be suggesting a Pi3 (no reason to go lower) at that point, or a tablet

weak belfry
#

What about a dell thin client? Like 900 pass mark bench mark score.

fringe moon
#

That would be the same or less than a pi3

weak belfry
fringe moon
#

Atom is horrible..

#

Works great for thin clients since all processing happens in the other end

weak belfry
#

Ah

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I have a few 24” multi touch screens that I’m trying to use 😂

#

This is only for viewing the dashboard... my HA is on another machine.

neat notch
#

So, HA blue hardware: odroid n2+, 128Gb eMMC, case and power supply, right?

undone haven
#

Personally, if you are serious about home automation, you are eventually going to go to a nuc, laptop, or desktop after the ODroid. Better off just starting there. You can get decent used stuff relatively cheap that will run HAss without any issues

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I got a dell optiplex i7 for 100.00 off of eBay.

vapid crystal
#

I've got a Zigbee Sengled bulb that has been working fine for weeks. Now it is a little buggy in HA. I have to click the on / off toggle a couple times and it will flash on / off eventually. Every other light I have is fine and they are all the same brand and protocol. Has anyone else experienced this? I don't see anything in the logs that jumps out. Do I just need to reconnect the bulb and add it back to automations? I was trying to avoid this.

heady hedge
fringe moon
#

Modern qnap systems are probably more flexible

#

but anything a few years old is hardly a pi 😄

heady hedge
winged knoll
#

You want to wander over to your install method channel

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Odds are it's a power related issue, or a dying SD card

#

configuration -> Info -> Installation Method then head over to the channel that matches

fringe moon
#

@heady hedge well it needs a x86-64 CPU preferably, the on you have has an AMD R-series CPU it seems, never heard of before, but atleast it is x86

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and boy that price

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jeeez those boxes are expensive now

upbeat flame
#

sure let me replace my question in the correct channel thanks

heady hedge
fringe moon
#

yeah, of course the size and power draw is relevant to some

#

but you can easily get a xeon system with 12 drive bays for €100 ish

heady hedge
fringe moon
#

yeah, I've been building my own servers from commodity hardware since the late 90s, my NAS was a qnap box for 2 years, but the last 5 years it's been a mini-itx box then I moved to a r510

heady hedge
fringe moon
#

Used debian since 2003, ran freenas (freebsd based) for a few years, now running truenas scale (debian based in alpha) with docker and kvm

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I also have a vsphere 7 lab enviroment paralell to that enviroment

heady hedge
#

Might give TrueNAS a go on my lab machine

fringe moon
#

Truenas Scale is great

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I've been running it for 3 months

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still alpha software, but have not had any issues but cosmetic

vapid crystal
drifting grove
#

I'm looking for some cheap 4 or 6 button devices to control some wifi bulbs. I just want one remote per fixture to control on/off/dim when I don't want to go to my tablet control. (It only needs 4 buttons, but if there are extras it's fine).

Right now I've been looking at "air mice," and they seem like they'd do the job if I can't find something with less buttons (see link).

I've got pico remotes already going for the important stuff. I'm just looking at adding a few wifi bulbs to some random lamps around the house. So, nothing high use or important

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32843952681.html

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Any advice on other things I can search for?

fringe moon
#

it's a powered wifi wall switch that probably runs either an ESP chip (can be flashed with tasmota) or tuyas propitary chip (you have to use the cloud) and has 433 communication built in to communicate with a small hand controller

earnest river
pine apex
#

Its a learning process but, for me anyway, its been rewarding as I've done more and more inside of Home Assistant. It's also nice to go like 8 months and be like...oh shit I've done literally nothing in HA yet its still chugging along just fine

mossy pumice
#

if i wanted to buy some cheap zigbee sensors and buttons what brand is best

winged knoll
#

Generally speaking, Xiaomi

#

There's a lot of caveats with that though

mossy pumice
#

do you have a link to their store on amazon or aliexpress or ebay or whatever

winged knoll
#

You can find them all over AliExpress

mossy pumice
#

alr

winged knoll
#

However, it does depend on what type of sensor you want, and #zigbee-archived can give you better recommendations about specific device types

bright jacinthBOT
cosmic lance
#

Hi, I'm trying to make GPIO work on debian 10 @RPI 4, I'm using RPI.GPIO ver 0.7.1a4, it was working few weeks ago.
Now when I'm runnin script - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s9W9MJYt7M/ (as root) i have error
RuntimeError: Mmap of GPIO registers failed thrown at (GPIO.setup(3, GPIO.IN) )
I've found some post that guided me to /dev/mem issues.

dd: error reading '/dev/mem': Operation not permitted
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes copied, 0.000156757 s, 0.0 kB/s

That might be the issue ?
crw-rw---- 1 root kmem 1, 1 Feb 14 2019 /dev/mem

winged knoll
#

Yes

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If you're not running as root 😉

cosmic lance
#

Indeed, but I'm

winged knoll
#

Then it's not a permissions problem there

thorny hinge
#

Does anyone have experience with Ikea Fyrtur blinds? Better solutions?? There doesn't seem to be a lot out there.

cosmic lance
winged knoll
#

No idea... it's not even obvious what you're doing there

cosmic lance
#

im just trying to make GPIO working, debian is fresh install, with supervised HA installation

winged knoll
#

Supervised, or HAOS?

cosmic lance
#

supervised, on ha os 32bit couldnt boot on ssd, on 64bit gpio were reported with state high

winged knoll
#

This method is considered advanced and should only be used if one is an expert in managing a Linux operating system, Docker and networking.
Just saying 😉

#

You probably want to troubleshoot it at the OS level first

cosmic lance
#

yea, but im out of ideas,

cosmic lance
dim spire
#

Does anyone know if I can use aqara door sensors with a 3rd party zigbee stick?

long charm
#

Is there a good weather station (wind speed, direction, maybe rain gauge) to use sine WU reduced api freeness?

heady hedge
winged knoll
tidal grotto
#

Reccomendations for thermostats, Hives HA integration breaks to often (api I know)

main cypress
#

@tidal grotto Honeywell Lyric T6

#

Never broke down on me .... using it for 1.5 yrs

tidal grotto
#

I spose that be same for all there line?

#

Honeywell T6 and lyra T6 diffrent things?

main cypress
#

hmmmz ... let me look

#

Do you have a link to the Lyra ... can't seem to find it on Honeywell

midnight ibex
#

Hey guys,
Can you recommend a network router BUT with homeassistant in mind.
So It would be nice if I can create some actions based on a connected users and other events.
IT will have a few shelly device (like 10+) zigbee is also present in my home, and I live in an apartment so tons of other AP around.
Not HA related stuff: VPN is a must have. So i can access my home network, (and my HA rpi) avay from home. Some firewall would be nice.
A file server so I can transfare files between pc, and access them from away. Maybe do some torrenting, so it could always upload.
Thanks! 🙂

frozen arrow
#

anyone know about wiring Shelly Dimmers here?

jade jolt
#

anyone know of a wireless or zigbee 2-way switch that can switch on a, or b or none ? (mains)

#

all I cant find so far is Blitzwolf 2 gang

#

hmm shelly 2.5 possibly

earnest river
# midnight ibex Hey guys, Can you recommend a network router BUT with homeassistant in mind. So...

I have used Ubiquity for all my business and personal routing for about a decade now. My current edge router 3 has a current uptime of over 9 months without any hiccups (yes, I need to restart it, lol). Looks like the X may be a current popular model, but as I understand them, they are fully administer-able. Add to that one or two Ubiquiti Unifi Ap-AC Lite WAPs ( I had one in a large apartment and that worked fine. I added one for my larger house but I probably didn't need to.) I have about 100 devices running perfectly well on it and share my Gb internet with my family. There are 4 of us sometimes streaming 4 x 4k plus phone and laptop, and a NAS from Synology, all without noticing any issues. They aren't the cheapest, but my current router and first WAP have done right by me for 7 years without needing anything.) Hope that helps.

fringe moon
#

They are also a shitshow of a current PR, regarding their forceful addition of advertising in the webgui, their downplayed data leaks and killing off entirely of older products (where they will be bricked if upgraded)

#

so your milage will vary

#

and I for one will not reccomend them to anyone 😄

#

also making some stuff cloud dependant... oh lawd

earnest river
#

good to know. I haven't heard any of that

dim spire
zealous dune
#

by design

earnest river
#

but if I get 5 years out of a $200 device that only needs rebooting if I need to upgrade it, that's solid to me. I have one that has uptime of 20 months right now. The only reason I've ever needed to reboot is if I choose to upgrade. My 9 month uptime one was only power cycled to change the UPS but it hasn't been upgraded for 4 years and still runs perfectly.

jade jolt
#

I used to love Ubiquiti stuff - they had a real disruptive agenda

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but they've gone"bad" recently

#

I've got a site full of APs that, for no real reason, will cease to work

earnest river
#

oh no

jade jolt
#

11 APs -

#

Firmware and security updates are no longer supported. The device was fully supported until Mar 1, 2021.Upgrading controller to version or later will terminate support for this device, and configuration changes will not be applied.

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some are less than 18months old

#

so I cannot change configuration if I update the controller after March 1

earnest river
#

jesus

slim lagoon
jade jolt
#

I won't go cisco - thats just a scam

#

pay monthly licences and if you dont pay, they stop working

slim lagoon
#

I agree and I would never either... but wasn't my call. 😐

jade jolt
#

thats why I liked the unifi stuff - was really disruptive, good hardware, great free controller and fantastic price

slim lagoon
#

So far, I'm actually liking the TP-Link gear. WAY cheaper than Unifi and seems to actually work fairly well. Haven't really put it under a lot of stress.

fringe moon
#

Meraki 🤢

dim spire
fringe moon
#

Tplink was horrible 15 years ago, they are probably better now, but I haven't seen one in 10+ years

dim spire
#

I started w/ TP link plugs. That was how I got introduced to HA haha

#

I might be a bit biased for nostalgic reasons

#

almost typed "might be a bit based"

slim lagoon
#

@fringe moon Their Omada gear isn't half bad... for the price. A 24 port managed swtich for with 4 SFP+ ports for $360 (US) isn't bad in my opinion. I've been trying to flood the backplane on it and honestly, it's sat here laughing at me.

fringe moon
#

The 2530 isn't far off that

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And comes with lifetime support

slim lagoon
#

The Aruba/hpe 2350?

fringe moon
#

Yes

onyx charm
#

i had a small experiment @ work.. bought 20 tp-link EAP120's

#

they installed like no effort and are running 5 yrs now

#

the experiment became an industrial-proof solution hehe

#

put their free controller software on the ESX host. worked flawlesly

ashen apex
#

Is there any position that you can mount a single motion sensor that will work for a half-landing stairwell type? Currently using 2 motion sensor, but want to cut down to 1.

light helm
#

Anyone using the inovelli black on/off?

gloomy spoke
#

But if you have an actual question, just ask it there

rose lodge
#

Hmm, anyone got recommendations for a simple zigbee based temp sensor, as well as zigbee based motion sensors?

For the latter just need something to record me walking past them/opening my door and walking out.

winged knoll
#

Xiaomi for either

heady hedge
midnight ibex
#

Thanks for the router tips. I am sure that my next-next router will be a Ubiquiti but, right now that is out of my budget. (I wanted to declare that on my first post, cause I was sure that some will recommend it, eventually I didn't :D)
So I am looking for an all-in one solution. (router-ap-vpn-(maybe-firewall-fileserver-torrentserver)
Firmware replacemant is okay for me. So based on my research, I think (still I think, so I am up to convincing) I will go with an asus router with asuswrt.

fringe moon
#

so opnsense

#

and basically any machine from the last decade

midnight ibex
winged knoll
#

Why?

midnight ibex
#

I dont know thats why I am asking. I imagied a "meh tone" with that sentence 😄

jovial pulsar
#

No. It really runs on anything.

#

Heck, with VLAN you can run it on a pi.

fringe moon
#

You can

#

but don't

#

😄

midnight ibex
#

What do you think about the ASUS RT-AC68U? 🙂

gentle fossil
#

tp link archer c7 everyday for me, 40 bucks cheaper

midnight ibex
#

do you use it with stock fw or with ddwrt?

gentle fossil
#

ddwrt 🤮

#

openwrt 👍

slate cipher
#

my son just sucked 1 or 2 litres of water through our 2 month old top of the line Miele vacuum (thankfully didn't kill himself or us).... so what smart vacuums are people rocking?

zealous dune
#

i'm guessing it wasn't a wet vaccum 😛

#

Roborock or Xiaomi is what most are rocking

slate cipher
#

No it was not...

#

I have a wet-vac on the balcony that he could have played with....

slim lagoon
#

My Roborock S5 works REALLY well. Especially with Valetudo on it and the glados voice pack. 😉

slate cipher
#

will have to check if these are available in my part of the world

#

zing, roborock is

zealous dune
#

there's been a slew of self emptying vacuums lately too

slim lagoon
#

I've seen those... My wife wanted one... But I got my S5 on sale for $419 US. So yeah... savings beat out self-emptying. lol

zealous dune
#

S5 is oldish but it does run open source firmware so nothing bad about that

slim lagoon
#

Yup. I love the valetudo firmware... Just being able to mess around with the voice-packs is awesome.

slate cipher
#

s6 looks good

slim lagoon
#

Oh, and oucher... hahaha...

slate cipher
#

MaxV

zealous dune
#

i got the xiaomi 1s which cannot run it but still works good

slate cipher
#

how often do you have to pull a traditional vacuum out?

slim lagoon
#

I looked at the 1s, but it wasn't available in the US at the time.

slim lagoon
slate cipher
slim lagoon
#

Oh, duh... misread... hardly ever...

zealous dune
#

traditional vacuum is designated for big messes

#

we have an el cheapo stick type

slate cipher
#

sweet as - so will need another one for when we have corn at the dinner table and children 'eating' it

slim lagoon
#

Honestly, depends on the model you go with (and the suction strength you use). I have mine set to balanced and it picks up pieces of dog food that my bigger dog misses.

slate cipher
#

awesome, cheers

#

does it integrate directly to HA? or is a hub required?

slim lagoon
#

No hub needed, but integration methods differ based upon the firmware. If you use valetudo, then you can fully integrate it using MQTT. If you keep the stock firmware, there's the xiaomi integration.

#

Personally, I went the valetudo route to keep the vacuum local with no cloud needed. It's a really simple process to flash with the S5/S6.

gentle fossil
#

you can theoretically flash s6 maxV but it's not recommended. no easy way

slim lagoon
gentle fossil
#

I am one unfortunate souls 😦

slim lagoon
slate cipher
#

not really keen on signing up to anything xiaomi related 😄

fringe moon
#

xiaomi loved

#

best shit around

slim lagoon
#

LOL except for their cloud 😉

slim lagoon
fringe moon
#

eh, I couldn't care less if someone knows my vacuuming patterns, or what my livingroom looks like

#

😄

winged knoll
#

well done, you've worked out my room is rectangular and has shit strewn all over the floor

fringe moon
#

what is that, there appears to be an outline of a fat man on the kitchen floor

#

oh well

#

if valetudo ever becomes reliable, I might flash my s5

slim lagoon
slim lagoon
fringe moon
#

There was quite a bit of issues with valetudo earlier with users reporting crashes and reinstalls weekly here

slim lagoon
#

Ahhhh, I haven't seen that at all. My S5 has been, pardon the pun, "rock" solid. 😉

gentle fossil
#

I just want to use the roborock app finally, the mi home cannot use the camera 😞

fringe moon
#

I will try the valetudo now then!

#

just for the lulz

#

if I don't return, my wife has slain me

fringe moon
#

would appear it isn't interested in my valetudo firmware anyway

# 
Going to update from /home/eirikz/Downloads/v11_002034.pkg
INFO:miio.updater:Serving on 0.0.0.0:33537, timeout 10
INFO:miio.updater:Using local /home/eirikz/Downloads/v11_002034.pkg (md5: e7126a405efc1c44943450836d1b336d)
Hosting file at http://192.168.1.195:33537/v11_002034.pkg
Error: Unable to parse message payload
ERROR:miio.updater:No request was made..
slate cipher
#

If any of you were building a home from scratch, would you put in smart globes or smart switches?

winged knoll
#

Switches

#

Well, switches for fans, dimmers for lights

zealous dune
#

run cat5 everywhere and consider 12v lights

winged knoll
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There's also PoE lighting

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The above said, there's likely places where you want automated lights - there smart lights and no wall switch makes sense (you'll still want something so you can cut power easily)

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Things like cupboards, where if the door is open you may want a light on automatically

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Part of this logic is POLA - having things work for normal people. Part of this is money - one smart switch and 4 dumb LEDs, vs 4 smart LEDs and something to make the wall switch smart so you can operate it normally.

slate cipher
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What’s POLA stand for?

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Let’s say money wasn’t an issue...

winged knoll
slate cipher
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Ah yes, think you linked that a few days ago 😂

winged knoll
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Lights should turn on and off with the switch on the wall, because that's how you operate lights...

slate cipher
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Yeah I’d like that, with the option to have them power on even if the ‘switch’ was ‘off’

winged knoll
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Smart switches allow that 😉

slate cipher
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Yeet. Are there any that would work with HA better than others?

winged knoll
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Zigbee IMO, but there's a range of Z-Wave and WiFi based options too

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Many of which are designed to sit behind your existing switch or between your switch(es) and the light(s)

slate cipher
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Ah yep

winged knoll
slate cipher
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Fibaro - I won’t touch them again

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Had some of their door sensors and they were absolute trash

winged knoll
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Yeah, but ... that's just a guide 😉

steady void
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Tips for a GPS tracker for kids/bicycle/stuff i can integrate in HA? Privacy focused and no cloud solution.

winged knoll
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My Fibaro sensors have been ok - the Eye of Sauron has been rock solid

winged knoll
slate cipher
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I was tempted to get their motion sensor, but wasn’t a fan of z-wave

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Hard to find options in this part of the world, very strict and high electrical standards

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Essentially would that switch then work with z2m > HA and work just like a Hue Dimmer to an extent?

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And be a better solution than a physical switch with something wired in behind the wall?

winged knoll
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Better is personal - I think the modules are a better choice if you've got multi-way switches, or if you want a particular style of wall hardware

slim lagoon
slim lagoon
winged knoll
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Yeah, but that's you, not guests/visitors/family 😛

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You can of course have both... it's not "hard" just expensive 😄

slim lagoon
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Them too. My smart switches do the same thing my motion/contact routines do. I even went so far as to having an Alexa help blueprint for the more boneheaded members of my family.

slate cipher
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Do dimmers not mess with smart lights though?

winged knoll
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Yes they do

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Don't connect smart lights to any form of switch/dimmer

slate cipher
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Or do you get a ‘smart dimmer’ instead

fringe moon
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smart dimmers

slate cipher
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How would something like this integrate with smart lights?

winged knoll
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Through HA

slate cipher
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Right so the physical switch would talk to HA which would then talk to the globe?

winged knoll
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Yes

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And you obviously have to ensure that your switch doesn't cut power to the light

slate cipher
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Yeah that’s it

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I guess you’d have to set automations for if it’s pressed, and the lights are off, turn them on and vice versa

winged knoll
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Yup

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Or if both are Zigbee use Binding so the switch can directly command the light

slate cipher
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Ah yeah, would that circumnavigate any preference on colour temp or what not though?

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Or you can set that up in z2m?

winged knoll
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Nah, it'd just turn it on/off

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You'd want something like adaptive lighting to auto-manage the colour temperature

slate cipher
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Pretty happy with adaptive lighting so far btw. Only two gripes, for some reason one grid of bulbs in my kitchen were cool this evening whilst the next grid along (living room) were warm. Other one is that I have RGB bulbs in the bedroom lamps but the ceiling pendant is only white/warm so there’s a bit of a funky difference between them

fringe moon
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tried with two different linux machines and my phone

muted wren
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Let me know if this is not the best channel for this. I'm looking to build a home assistant box. What's the recommended state of the art on this. Should I go a Pi route or a NUC or something else. I work in computer software so I'm knowledge when it comes to hardware and software, but I don't want something that will be to slow or have constant issues.

winged knoll
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Pi no

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NUC is better than a Pi by a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way

muted wren
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ya, that was my expectation

winged knoll
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But, just about anything from the last 10 years will do - including a second hand laptop

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Not Atom though, those are often far too limited

muted wren
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I currently have no devices outside of my phone and my work laptop 🙂 So I'll need a new device

winged knoll
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Or second hand from ebay

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How far you go will depend on what else you want to do with that host. For "just" HA then something like an i3 with 2GB of RAM will be enough, but the more you want to do, the more CPU and RAM you'll want

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An SSD may be a wise investment too

muted wren
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Thanks, I'm just getting into this and my initial interests are lights(30 ish lights), smart door lock, likely 2 cameras

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I suspect I'll quickly get addicted

winged knoll
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Cameras can be CPU intensive - if you're doing object detection plan for a Coral card/stick. If you're "just" doing motion detection then you don't need one (but you probably want to do object detection)

frozen arrow
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hmm shellies run a little warm

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guess it's not really a problem

frozen arrow
muted wren
frozen arrow
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You will get annoyed with that solution long-term, but if you're going to be building a PC anyway then it's a good place to test it out in a virtual machine

mortal minnow
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is there good literature to understand the Philipps Hue Light sensors within their motion detectors? I want to use the LX value to steer my light automations in the area where the motion detector is located but I dont understand what the values represent

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or actually - the explanation can be non-specific. the sensor reports Lx values, so what indicate low / high Lx values to turn on lights?

winged knoll
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Well, if it reports the level, that's then on you to pick values that work for you

wintry zealot
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So working on building a list of items to use for home automatons and having trouble finding a fan controller for my ceiling fans. I'm looking for WiFi devices that preferably aren't cloud dependent. I've seen SONOFF iFAN03 but don't really want to do any changing of the capacitors for the US. So with that in mind anyone have some possibilities they use I can look into?

cerulean crater
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Hey folks, Just looking for some general advice on my thermostat issue. Basically, its the usual issue of a thermostat's temperatur sensor being in the worst spot, which is in side the thermostat. The far sides of the home get very much closer to the outside temperature, while the center of the house is closer to the temp on the thermostat. Ideally I'd have some way to direct that airflow, and maybe I'll approach that someday. But for now I was hoping to place other temperature sensors in the house, and on demand, switch which of those is the master. Adding an offset to the thermostat until the desired temp is reached at the target sensor.

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So I guess I am wondering, does that sound doable? or is there a better way to approach this problem? Perhaps automatically balancing vent covers already exist for this problem?

wintry zealot
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I've not done this but I'm thinking about tying in a temp sensor that will kick off the ceiling fans in those rooms to help even out the temperature. just my two cents

cerulean crater
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oh that's a great idea

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though, wont help much for warming up the room. might feel cooler just because of moving air

wintry zealot
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Thanks! It's why I'm soliciting ideas on fan controllers to set fan speed and turn them on.

cerulean crater
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as a stopgap, for heat, I guess I could use my existing smartplug with a spaceheater, and have it run when the temperature difference is too much, until it meets what the thermostat says the temp is

wintry zealot
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That would work

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does your thermostat have a fan controll?

cerulean crater
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it does. I usually leave it set to always on, just to help circulate and even things out

wintry zealot
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Can you turn that on and off from home assistant so it circulates only when the temp is out of the threshold?

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Also for the remote sensors could you use those to average out the house temp and then have the thermostat heat till the average temp is in range?

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or the inverse for cooling?

cerulean crater
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I think I could, but annoyingly this would make the thermostat say its set to a number I dont actually want all the time

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just to keep it offset properly

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I'd need to make some sort of a virtual thermostat where I set the actual temp I want, and HA would set my devices as needed to actually get there, regardless of what numbers that would be

wintry zealot
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I mean without relay controlled valves to shunt the hot or cold air to specific rooms you can't do much more

cerulean crater
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true

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its not a bad idea

wintry zealot
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sometimes all you can do is put a kludge in place

cerulean crater
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I just found that there do exist smart vents that work specifically with my thermostat.

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but... $200 a piece!

wintry zealot
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nice!

cerulean crater
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its a wifi controlled servo arm... it shouldnt be that bad.

wintry zealot
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is it all flex duct or do you have sheet metal junctions?

cerulean crater
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well, I'm renting so I'm not entirely sure. I think most of it is flex

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but I dont want to modify the house much basically

wintry zealot
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Ah, that's another thing be super careful about changing things when renting

cerulean crater
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yeah unfortunately. I get to start all over again next time I move. A blessing and a curse

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given an unlimited budget I'd get all the stuff specifically made for my thermostat. Smart vents, added temp sensors etc. And just have HA handle the frontend for its own systems

wintry zealot
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controllers for the ceiling fan might be safest bet then as if you can find one that replaces the wall switch and is minimally invasive and easily changed back

cerulean crater
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yeah I think a combo of that, controlling the thermostat's fan setting, and supplimental heaters should get me close to where I want to be

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Thanks for bouncing some ideas around :)

mild bronze
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Has anyone seen this error when trying to upload to an ESP32? INFO Successfully compiled program.
INFO Connecting to 192.168.0.101
ERROR Connecting to 192.168.0.101:8266 failed: [Errno 113] No route to host

winged knoll
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You'd want to ask the folks in #diy-archived about that, unless that's ESPHome or Tasmota

mild bronze
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ESPHome

bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
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☝️

mild bronze
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I am trying to compile it but I keep getting no route to host and the error logs show that it is not connecting to the wifi.

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Thanks

drifting sundial
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I Have 12v WLED strip. I want to connect it with ESP Home. I have node MCU. So how can I connect my 12v Wled strip with 5v Supply? Or can I connect Wled strip with 12 v and Node MCu with 5v.? And connect comon ground. And just data pin from node mcu to Wled?

dim spire
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Does anyone have any recommendations for bedside reading lamps?

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Like the kind that hang over the bed

mortal minnow
winged knoll
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Easily done - it's human nature to over-think/over-complicate

frozen arrow
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there is no problem so simple that it can't be easily over-complicated

rose turret
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Morning guys, wondering if any of you have had the Flo by Moen installed? I had mine installed two days ago and had a question about this "needs install" warning. Can't find much online beyond Moen's support page...

fringe moon
slim lagoon
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LOL sorry!!! I completely forgot. Give me a minute.

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Ok. Got it. Did you update the stock firmware recently through the Mi app?

fringe moon
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Not for the last 6 months or so

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It is a 2018 model, so I firmware reset it to its original firmware, didn't change anything

slim lagoon
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S5, right?

fringe moon
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S55, but yes