hardware-archived

[feral river]

thanks, i appreciate that

[winged knoll]

It's weird, and I can't duplicate it, but maybe it's a locale issue, or something weirder

[feral river]

fair nuff - i thought i was crazy

[winged knoll]

Well, we don't know you're not.... but I think most of us are

[feral river]

😄

[buoyant blade]

Has anyone tried scripting an hp procurve switch? I've built automations to shut down the server when the UPS falls below a certain battery percentage, thinking I'd like to disable the poe cams also, to try to get a bit more life out of the battery.

Although I may be better off just cutting power to the switch completely at that point

[unique merlin]

So hard to find for Canadians for $500 range right now

[feral river]

The govee 5075s appear to be wide open once you grab the MAC using any BT scanner. 2xAAA and i'm 2mos in and at 97% battery.

[drifting grove]

Can I use Sonoff DW2 with hassio without internet?

[bright jacinth]

Hass.io was the old name for the appliance like install option, that uses Docker. It is now simply called Home Assistant OS (see #330990055533576204).

Command '~hassio' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[winged knoll]

Should work, even on the stock firmware. There's a few #integrations-archived options

[drifting grove]

Hassos?

[winged knoll]

Home Assistant

HAOS is a way of running HA

[drifting grove]

Ok

[winged knoll]

There's at least one native integration, plus https://github.com/AlexxIT/SonoffLAN, and that's before you flash alternative firmware

[drifting grove]

What communication protocol should I choose for door sensor?

[mental patio]

What coordinator u have

Simply as that

[drifting grove]

?

[mental patio]

If u have zigbee coordinator find zigbee sensor

If u have zwave...

[drifting grove]

I have no coordinator

I don't have any coordinator

[mental patio]

Then...rf or wifi

[drifting grove]

Ok

how long will the sensor work on the battery if I choose wifi?

[mental patio]

Not sure they exists

But wifi is always power hungry

Maybe first try to decide what iot coordinator will suit you and after go for that side

[drifting grove]

Okay

Is zigbee better than zwave?

I mean management

[winged knoll]

Zigbee is cheaper

[drifting grove]

Okay, so i'll choose it 😅

[winged knoll]

It has it's own issues, it's not "better" or "worse" than Z-Wave

But, £10/sensor vs £35+/sensor ... it's not a hard choice

See the #zigbee-archived channel's pinned messages for more information about options

[drifting grove]

And should i choose usb stick or gateway?

Zigbee

[winged knoll]

USB stick, 100%

[drifting grove]

Ok

I'll buy zigbee stick and then look around for door sensors

Thank u guys

😅

[winged knoll]

Pick your integration first, that determines your stick 😉

[drifting grove]

I want to use zha

[winged knoll]

Then see the pinned messages in #zigbee-archived for the recommend sticks 😉

[drifting grove]

Will ConBee II Zigbee USB gateway be ok?

Oh

Ok, it's compatible

Ty

[winged knoll]

Compatible != recommended 😉

[drifting grove]

So which device is recommended?

In europe

[winged knoll]

Have you visited the #zigbee-archived channel yet?

Have you looked at the pinned messages there? Where it tells you 😉

If not, head over there and have a look, and if you're unsure ... ask in that channel 😉

[drifting grove]

I seen pinned messages

And idk which stick should i buy

[winged knoll]

Then head over there and ask 😉

[drifting grove]

Ok

Ty

[little sable]

Hello friends.. Just got my HomeAssistant Blue box. Ran into an issues after a snapshot migration from my RPi4 installation. Is there a way to "factory reset" the odroid?

[coral rivet]

You probably get best answered at #330990055533576204

[little sable]

OK thank you

[pure scroll]

Hello! I'm new to HA, and I'm trying to get the groups feature going. I was able to get the code into the config file, but no matter how many groups I make, only one shows up. Below is my config file.

[bright jacinth]

@pure scroll posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X5bHcNMhJv/

[gloomy spoke]

that's not how it works

you only use one group: section, and you add all your groups below it

you also need to indent the items under the group: heading. This is the example in the docs

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/group/

it probably didn't pass the config check, either

[pure scroll]

I see. I fixed that, and am restarting now. I'll let you know if it's fixed!
Thanks!

[gloomy spoke]

np. you can just reload groups from -> Server controls

[pure scroll]

Odd. My pendant group still isn't showing up. Let me double-check a few things.

[gloomy spoke]

there are other things wrong with that config now that I look at it closer

it looks like you're trying to create a light group, which has nothing to do with a "group"

[bright jacinth]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/light.group/

Command '~light.group' was invoked by: RobC

[gloomy spoke]

again, one light: section, multiple - platform: group sections

I'll grant that it's kinda confusing

[pure scroll]

Excellent News! I was finally able to get it working. I set it up as a device group (not a light group) and changed the icon to mdi:lightbulb in the entity customization menu. Thanks for all of your help!

Because I am a tinkerer, I will still try to set it up as a light group, but the important thing is that it works. (I will save the current code, though)

[gloomy spoke]

sure, np. the difference is that a light group lets you treat the group as a light for dimming purposes and probably color and such. A group is only on/off

I have lots of groups and no light groups, so it only matters if you care about the additional functionality

[pure scroll]

Actually, I'm able to dim, change color, and even set effects. It even properly uses my RGBWW devices.

[gloomy spoke]

targeting the group?

[pure scroll]

Yep!

[gloomy spoke]

ok. I don't know what a "device group" is, but maybe it's a new animal that's more useful

[pure scroll]

All of the devices in the group are RGB capable, so that could be it too. In addition to your guidance, this was the guide that I followed: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/group/

[gloomy spoke]

groups like this are only on/off: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/group/

ok

[vast cliff]

have people here had good/bad experiences with https://sense.com?

[pure scroll]

I've heard bad things. Let me try to find the video.

@vast cliff This is an excellent video, and even talks about HA integration.
https://youtu.be/5RyDxZLA8b8

[vast cliff]

awesome thank you

[pure scroll]

No Problem!

[split kiln]

Hey, i've recently installed a zenwifi mesh system and am using a powerline (🤮) to connect to one device in my house that i cannot run cables to atm. Usually this operates fine but occasionally the devices get an "Incorrect IP configuration" where it seems to be assigned an IP which is not in the DHCP range. Any suggestions on how to resolve?

[fringe moon]

Well, that has nothing to do with HA

[winged knoll]

What's the IP range they get allocated?

[fringe moon]

I'll take a wild stab and say 169.x.x.x or something they use for first time joining of mesh network because it is not reaching the master

[winged knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/win-winning-cheers-congratulations-yelling-gif-8842312

[split kiln]

Correct, its 169. something

Sorry didnt mean it was part of HA but have discussed mesh etc here before so thought someone may be able to help

Any ideas on possible resolutions?

[winged knoll]

Fix your network?

169.254.x.y means that the host couldn't reach a DHCP server

[fringe moon]

Which is probably because power line stuff is ..... Unreliable at best

[winged knoll]

Eh, I ran it for years with no issue, but my wiring was good, and the devices reliable

[fringe moon]

It is... Interesting in modern norwegian houses, because we do three phase in, and two sides of the house can use different phases

So it won't work at all

[split kiln]

I never had any issues with it until switching from my virgin router to asus zenwifi mesh. Now the DHCP issue seems to happy fairly frequently

[gleaming yew]

Guys, is there a way that I can add a tasmotised sonoff ifan03 via mqtt discovery (like this article) https://community.home-assistant.io/t/mqtt-entities-in-areas/192886/4 so that I can set its area, but also include the fanspeed?

[gentle fossil]

sounds like your powerline adapter loses connection - and doesn't contribute to the mesh anymore @split kiln

[bright jacinth]

The topic of this channel is:

@gleaming yew Questions about a hardware device (not their #integrations-archived with HA, and not the thing that HA calls devices)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff.

Problems with the Blue? See #330990055533576204

If you want to share images, use https://imgur.com/ or similar.

Please use https://www.hastebin.com/ or https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs

Command '.topic' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[gleaming yew]

I see, so I should stroll on over to #integrations-archived?

[winged knoll]

Well, you're asking about the integration with HA... so ... yes 😉

[gleaming yew]

😛

[granite mist]

hi you all, I've just installed the HA-os on an ODROID-N2+ and i was wondering if i could use the GPIO pins and how to use the fan pins??

[drifting grove]

Hi! What hardware would I need in order to use easywave devices (Niko)

[acoustic oxide]

How would I set up a 110V LED strip to HA through a raspberry pi?

[acoustic oxide]

Or 24v led strip

[mental patio]

doesn't matter v

#integrations-archived matters

[pseudo crater]

Hi Guys, I am searching the web for two days and I have foudn some treads but no sulotion... I have added a Z-waze motion sensor (Fobaro) - and creatred an automation that when there is a motion it turns a light on (simple) - but it works only the for the first time and then the sensor states on state "on" until I restart the server.... anyone knows what do to?

[delicate crane]

Anyone use HomePod mini as a speaker for HASS?

[strong coral]

Afternoon all.. I'm looking at the ikea tradfri gu10's.. On ikea UK seems to be selling 2 types... 1 is £12 and the other £6 each... Does anyone know the difference between the two?

[next island]

£6 only do warm white, £12 are white spectrum which do warm to cool white

[winged knoll]

Their site does a pretty good job of explaining the features if you read through 😉

[strong coral]

Thank you for the info

[verbal magnet]

Hoping some American's and possible Canadians here can help me, I'm trying to find a 120v wall mounted heater than can be integrated with home assistant. My desire is a device that is already "smart" compatible and won;t require an extra add on device to make is "smart" unless that device is directly compatible with the heater and attaches to it and is from the manufacturer of the heater

This is for a solution as a part of a professional install, nothing DIY/Jank

[cobalt scarab]

Do I need to do something to get a RPI to detect CC26X2R1 ? I had it working on a VM moved to RPI yesterday and can't seem to get it to appear in hardware.

[humble idol]

Has anybody configured WiFi in HA running on Odroid N2+ or HA Blue? I am tempted to go the Odroid route.

[winged knoll]

Pretty sure there's no WiFi on it - #330990055533576204 can help with the Blue though

[winged knoll]

No magic. It's possibly a problem with your power supply, but your install method channel is (probably) the best place to troubleshoot that.

[cerulean inlet]

Anyone know the gpio pinouts for the deta 6920HA wall outlet. It's similar to the 6922HA but also has 2 USB ports, not sure if the USB ports are on the GPIO's

[cerulean inlet]

hmm seems it may not have an esp board in it

[karmic crypt]

Hey guys, I have set up and installed about 20meters(4x~5m strips) of 12v 5050 led strips. I have the power supply down and bought 2 cheap dmx controllers with presets to test it.
Can you guys recommend controllers to buy that'd be able to power the led strips at least in 5m strip segments and also make integrating with home assistant/ hyperion.ng easy? (https://github.com/hyperion-project/hyperion.ng)

[split kiln]

Any suggestions on doorbells. Im not particularly bothered about video or voice but would like the ability to automate based on the doorbell being pressed. Im based in the UK if that helps. Also needs to be battery operated.

[fringe moon]

I use a Xiaomi ZigBee single press button

Made for indoors, has been outdoor for over two years

[tribal estuary]

Hi guys! I am planning a complete setup for a house and I want to use HA on a RPI to make it "smart" :). It is important to me that we still have light switches which work but also the possibility to switch via HA. what can i use? I use zigbee-bulbs right now but the problem with them is that i have to leave the switch at "on" to use them.

[winged knoll]

Well, don't use a Pi for a start 😉

Smart switches is your answer though

[tribal estuary]

I use a Pi right now and have no problems?! 😄 And the point is that the switches are "included" in the house price 😄 I thought of something like a shelly or so?!

[winged knoll]

Shelly works, as does any smart switch or smart module you can connect between a switch and the light

[tribal estuary]

so it would be possible that I use a shelly (1?) to make it work via HA and the hardware switch? do you have a shelly alternative?

[fringe moon]

Smart switches smart bulbs

[winged knoll]

Your choices depend on the questions in the pinned messages 😉

Personally I'd be looking at Zigbee, not WiFi

Sure, I'll just stick another 100 devices on my WiFi network, that'll be fine

[tribal estuary]

Do you have a Zigbee recommondation?

[winged knoll]

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_devices.html 😛

I can suggest some UK options, but if you don't live in the UK...

[bright jacinth]

See the pinned messages

Command '.pinned' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[tribal estuary]

the point is... making a switch smart is way easier in my opinion, because I can change the "lamp styles". I can use LED-strips, LED-spots, bulbs, lamps with Spots and so on

[winged knoll]

Oh, I agree

[tribal estuary]

yeah, ty, i will look it up. I think it would be better to use a zigbee too, i just didnt know that there is something like that

[split kiln]

I'd be interested to hear your UK recommendations. My main question is are any of the zigbee recommendations CE approved as I struggled to find any that I trusted

[winged knoll]

Well, #zigbee-archived is a good place to ask, but ... Xiaomi for all their issues are generally pretty good

[marsh jacinth]

Hi! any people with a raspbee 2 module (no usb) , can't get it to work with ZHA already read the discussions on the forum without luck 😦

[winged knoll]

#zigbee-archived can help

[dreamy wharf]

Is there a list of recommended devices? Like... the products that work great with HA?

[winged knoll]

No

The options are massive, vary according to where in the world you live, your requirements, and your budget

The best you'll get is recommended protocols

Which will generally be:

1. Not cloud - local
2. Not WiFi

[dreamy wharf]

yea i perfer zigbee to wifi

i had some wifi bulbs and they clutter the f--- out of my network

[flat nymph]

not sure if this is the right place; but I've got a TV connected to a Raspberry PI 4 via HDMI. I would like to show some data like the current weather and play sound from this TV. Is that possible using home assistant?

[gentle fossil]

use kodi for media player on that pi. kodi can also display weather and you can control kodi with home assistant

[flat nymph]

it's the same raspberry pi, can I run both kodi for media player and home assistant?

[gentle fossil]

you sure can, depending on installation method and your experience in HA, docker and linux in general

[flat nymph]

I'm new to it, good to know it's possible 👍

[gentle fossil]

I'd strongly advise to keep it separate though!

[flat nymph]

what do you mean separate? 2 pi's?

[gentle fossil]

If you really need to go this route I'd recommend something like Libreelec with the docker addon - then install #449717345808547842 on that

[gentle fossil]

yes

[flat nymph]

okay thanks 🙂

[neon hemlock]

anyone using a shelly and cutting the power to it on a regular basis?

[coral rivet]

Not really but some to my test shelly, what are your symptoms?

actually it seems to be offline now while its on, i think the issue is with the availability-topic (it only sends anything there when it boots up, a bit weird approach)

[neon hemlock]

i'm planning on installing one where the power will be cut daily. curious if anyone has had bad experiences with that kind of setup

[serene glacier]

Hello everyone, why can't my Broadlink be added? ?

I have entered the correct IP address. But it prompts me "Unknown error occurred".

[fringe moon]

Probably because you completed the setup in the app @serene glacier then it is cloud only

You need to only set the ssid settings, then leave the app

Then local control is still available

[serene glacier]

I found the problem. . The custom plug-in of the boradlink cover must be deleted before the integration can be added. But I cannot use the curtains now. .

[dire gust]

Hi, Can someone please advice me. I am looking for a Wi-Fi PIR that has a light sensor and runs on battery.

[bright jacinth]

@clear plover posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JWNvJCZvpP/

[clear plover]

Hi, I am wanting to use pigpiod in node red. I have read all I can find however I still have issues of the deamon not starting on boot. I have modified rc.local and added the line as the instructions say and when I run the following command the out put can be seen
pi@RefluxStill:~ $ sudo ps aux | grep pigpiod
pi 1074 0.0 0.0 7348 544 pts/0 S+ 20:25 0:00 grep --color=auto pigpiod
so the rc.local file has run it up in user pi however node red PWM output GPIO does not work, if i then type sudo pigiod and then run the above command again I get the following
pi@RefluxStill:~ $ sudo ps aux | grep pigpiod
root 1084 16.5 0.1 13568 1644 ? SLsl 20:34 0:00 pigpiod
pi 1091 0.0 0.0 7348 524 pts/0 S+ 20:34 0:00 grep --color=auto pigpiod
so if I understand I now have pigpiod running in root and in pi and node red works fine.
How can I get it to run in root at boot up as the software in node red will not work until it is running in root?

[winged knoll]

Sounds like you need to create a systemd unit file for it

https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/70568/how-to-run-pigpiod-on-boot

[bright jacinth]

:point_up: Let me Google that for you...

Here , try this:
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=pigpiod+systemd

Command '~lmgtfy' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[stiff prawn]

Have an Ecobee Thermostat specific question (unrelated to HA). Does anyone know if it's possible to use another Thermostat in-leu of a Remote/Smart Sensor?

[gloomy spoke]

Not that ties into the original Ecobee

They only support their remote sensors

[stiff prawn]

Dang, that's kinda a bummer. Know of any other thermostats where you could accomplish something like this?

Basically have an upstairs family room and a basement family room. Just looking for a lazy way to walk over to the wall and adjust the temp, understanding that it will make the other room uncomfortable since they aren't physically zoned (I'd do this anyways with just 1 thermostat, so I don't have an option).

[gloomy spoke]

It sounds like you just want to remotely control the thermostat? Your phone, or a wall mounted tablet with an HA dashboard could do that.

Otherwise, you’re in DIY territory to build a control that reports a new temp setting

[stiff prawn]

Yeah, basically. I'm curious how the smartsensors actually achieve anything as if the house isn't zoned it's not like it's going to do much, unless you have a way to close off vents as well

[coral rivet]

I would recommend you to check the specs of the device, for example the speed controllers technical specification is easily found and it states for example output voltage which you guessed wrong.

[drifting grove]

Hello everyone! not sure exactly where to place this, but I'm trying to figure out the following:

I have a cheap USB mic that I want to connect to the Raspberry Pi 4B+ that is running Home Assistant (2019.3.4)
I want to be able to use the audio it records for example for making lights react to sound, and I'd like to be able to stream the audio to my phone.

Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to achieve this?

I tried this: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/listen-to-audio-from-microphone-to-the-web-in-real-time-working/122470
But I don't know where and how to run the commands that are suggested. Thanks in advance!

[upper stream]

Has anyone here used a HomePod for home assistant? I’m looking for a voice assistant that will work when the internet goes out

[wide sequoia]

Does anyone have a good (cheap) alternative to wyze motion sensors?

[fringe moon]

Xiaomi >*

[coral rivet]

There are ready-made triac hats for raspi. Dimmers are not for ac motors. This might help forward https://circuitdigest.com/microcontroller-projects/arduino-ac-light-dimmer-using-triac - this starts to be #diy-archived channel stuff

[drifting grove]

Is it possible to connect a usb-mic to the RPi running home assistant?

[winged knoll]

Depends on your install method

[drifting grove]

installed home assistant os (flashed to sd)

[winged knoll]

Then #330990055533576204 can help you

[drifting grove]

Thank you!

[potent spruce]

Hey, does anyone here recommend a good PoE PIR sensor?
I have the possibility to hardwire some sensors and I can't seem to find any good ones that are not WiFi or ZigBee connected
PoE would be the best fit for me as it would provide both power and connectivity at the same time

or if not poe, what is the standard connection technology used? my goal would be to use mqtt to integrate with HA

[winged knoll]

If you want "hard wired" then you could use the Aeotec (Z-Wave) multi-sensors. Their Multisensor 6 can be USB powered

[potent spruce]

thanks, will check it out

[wind torrent]

hey! just bought 5 sensors with ADC output - 0 to 5 volts. any recommendations on the best board to use together with Home Assistant that can take 5V?

oh... arduino and firmata... right?

[fair ridge]

Hi, I have succesfully ad my tasmota lamp to HA like disribed in https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/tasmota/

But how with tasmota flashed plugs? In the guide is all listed but not plugs. 😦

[winged knoll]

Integrations would be a topic for #integrations-archived 😉

[fair ridge]

ok

[ebon salmon]

quick question around the new Nest Hub 2nd gen.. it has a temp sensor, do we know if this will be accessible at all for HA?

[tropic dune]

Does anyone know of a great rcbo that can be fully integrated with HA? Switching on/off and energy monitoring?

[winged knoll]

I'd expect not, they don't expose anything connected to them, to anything else connected to their services...

[velvet pivot]

Hey all. New user here. I am transitioning away from Apple HomeKit. I have several baby crib cams (Aqara & Arlo). The quality of the video via HomeKit is what I would want in HA. But, when I use the HomeKit controller, the video goes to crap. So, I'm looking for a good quality wifi camera to monitor the kids' cribs 24/7. Anyone have a recommendation ?

[winged knoll]

See the #cameras-archived channel

There's a lot of history there, but folks can advise you better

[velvet pivot]

crap, didn't scroll down that far. Thanks

[worthy dirge]

If I were to install Home Assistant Supervised on Debian 10, could it use a discreet GPU for security cameras?

**the video processing

[winged knoll]

Supervised:

This method is considered advanced and should only be used if one is an expert in managing a Linux operating system, Docker and networking.

[worthy dirge]

I understand. I've noticed there is a 5~7 second delay in transcoding IP camera streams to HLS, I'm looking to bring this down to ~2 seconds. ffmpeg and stream are already in configuration.yaml.

[winged knoll]

As far as I know that's the nature of HA's approach, regardless of processing capabilities

#cameras-archived can explain more, if you're lucky, but a GPU won't reduce that

[worthy dirge]

Okay. Thanks. 🙂

[true totem]

...me so the signal is better

[solid grotto]

I live in Sweden and have today Verisure as a home alarm system. A bit miss happy with them. So I’m looking for building a system of my own. Anyone have some tips for devices that can be integrated to home assistant that could replace my alarm system?

[winged knoll]

Have a search for Konnected

[summer oriole]

Smart dimmers vs smart bulbs - Is it viable to use both together? I.e. control on/off/brightness through the smart dimmer and color via the (RGB) bulbs?

[winged knoll]

No

Not unless they're not connected

Putting a smart bulb on a dimmer... that's gonna end badly

[onyx chasm]

Good evening people. Can you please help me to understand if I will be able to connect this hardware with home assistant:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B07VFGCQDG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It may be newbie question, I am just on start line with HA, but want to dive in it fully 🙂

[winged knoll]

WiFi and 433 RF.... the RF side maybe, but frankly that's the worst option 😄

[onyx chasm]

Did you had experience with pairing switchers? Just can not understand witch one will work properly with HA

[winged knoll]

Zigbee is the easy answer

[west cloak]

It's a Sonoff device, there is a integration with HA available. Works fine over WiFi. I'm using three of these with no problems.

[onyx chasm]

Are your devices using original firmware? Or I’ll need to do some manipulations to pare them?

[west cloak]

no manipulation's made. Works with original firmware with: https://github.com/AlexxIT/SonoffLAN

You just need HACS installed in HA.

[onyx chasm]

Thank you very much for reply. Will try 🙂

[drifting grove]

Hi guys

I have my raspberry connected through an ethernet cable to my router.

Can the Wifi radio still intefere with my other devices?

[ripe pond]

probably can unless you disable it.

Home Assistant Blue back in stock at Hard Kernel, got mine ordered!

[slate cipher]

looking for recommendations on the best temperature sensor to get for HA integration

[cursive yoke]

Is it most folks experience that a Raspberry Pis need some sort of external storage rather than SD card for good performance?

[drifting grove]

@slate cipher Xiaomi temp sensors work really well

[coral rivet]

its much related on how you prefer to communicate with the sensors (wifi, zigbee, zwave, bluetooth, etc.)

[slate cipher]

I have wifi, zigbee AND zwave in my home so not too concerned which protocol it runs on

[ripe pond]

@cursive yoke yes, you can make a bunch of config changes to make your sd card last longer but in the end I burned out 2 sd cards before upgrading. If you setup the google drive backup it's not a big deal to swap out to a new sd card, but the performance of an ssd or emmc in the case of the HA Blue is well worth it anyway

[dreamy wharf]

can you wire a sonoff as a 3-way?

like to a regular single pole light

but then have either the switch OR the sonoff control the lights?

im gonna guess the answer is yes but wanted to make sure

[ripe pond]

do you already own the sonoff switch?

[dreamy wharf]

nope i might buy the zigbee one off amazon

[ripe pond]

single pole and 3-way don't really go together, if it's a 3-way both ends are 3-way

[dreamy wharf]

well what i mean is..

the sonoff would act like a second switch in a 3 way normally does

[ripe pond]

I'm not sure. I know the inovelli dimmers do it. You replace the switch on the line side and the dumb switch can stay on the other side. They're z-wave though, not zigbee. But I can tell you they are awesome

[dreamy wharf]

if the light is off and you flick one, they turn on.. and if the light is on and you flick one, they turn off

yea?

lemme look them up

[ripe pond]

nearly everyone that has them highly recommends them. after the last 3-way switches I replaced where you had to replace the other switches with auxiliary switches, they are like magic.

[dreamy wharf]

i just ordered these

[ripe pond]

https://inovelli.com/red-series-dimmer-switch-z-wave/?locale=en

you ordered the inovelli?

[dreamy wharf]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T4G24TL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

no these ^

hmmmm the innovelli is sexy!

[ripe pond]

maybe they'll work fine, if it was me I'd cancel it and get the inovelli

[dreamy wharf]

little pricey

well the one i ordered is a 3-way

(for different switch than the one i was asking about)

dude this innoveli looks great though

[ripe pond]

you can configure like everything on the inovellis too. Ramp rate (local and zwave, min dim, max dim, you can use the leds for status notification, change the colors, all kinds of stuff

[dreamy wharf]

wow

[ripe pond]

plus they have a nice feel. A lot of zwave swithces feel kind of mushy since they don't actually toggle

[dreamy wharf]

lemme see if i can find a 3-way from them

[ripe pond]

that one I linked the red dimmer works as 3 way

single pole or 3-way (4/5/etc way works too)

I think they have like 13 scenes too. 2/3/4/5 tap top and bottom plus the little config button can be a scene button

[dreamy wharf]

hmmmm

[ripe pond]

I'm nothing but a customer for them but seriously I'm impressed with them. I've put 24 in and have another 9 waiting for install

[dreamy wharf]

yea they look great

but 3-way switches usually are wired differently

like they have 5 wires instead of 4

[ripe pond]

You have line, load, traveler, neutral and ground

so if you're doing a single-pole you don't have the traveler,

[dreamy wharf]

my 3 ways have live, travler1, travler2, neutral, and ground

[ripe pond]

yeah, one of the travelers is basically load

[dreamy wharf]

so 2 travlers that switch depending on the relay

HMM

yea i might cancel

[ripe pond]

yeah, there are 2 config setting in the switch

[dreamy wharf]

do they have regular on/off non dimmers?

[ripe pond]

yeah, they're a bit cheaper too. You can configure the dimmers to just turn on/off as well so you can decide later if that's what you want. You save like $2 to get the on/off though

[dreamy wharf]

damn amazon akes a week to shit them

[ripe pond]

I've ordered 3 times in the last 2 weeks and they were delivered in 2 days every time

I ordered direct from inovelli

[dreamy wharf]

i love the look of these

on Amazon>

oh

[ripe pond]

I don't even know why I'm trying to sell you on them, but I'm certain if you go with them you won't be disappointed

other than it seems like they're starting to run out of stock again and you might be sad you can't get more

[dreamy wharf]

you like the product

[ripe pond]

they just ran out of the 10-packs this week. No idea what kind of stock they have on the singles

[dreamy wharf]

i get it

i do the same thing

when i like something

try this site: lustre.ai .. it's AMAZING

it's like metacritic for product reviews

thats something i tell everyone like youre doing with these switches

[ripe pond]

plus, I had kind of a hodge-podge of zwave devices in my last house and I almost gave up on zwave because of that plus ozw.

[dreamy wharf]

whats the black series?

[ripe pond]

that site recommends lutron caseta smart switches which I've also heard great things about from everyone who has them. They're rock solid but expensive and a lot of people don't like how they look. I'll try it out again

[dreamy wharf]

https://inovelli.com/black-series-dimmer-switch-z-wave

i looooovvvvee lustre

like i buy so much dumb shit from thier articles

pencils lol.. pocket knives

[ripe pond]

red has energy monitoring, scene control, and you can control the leds for notifications and stuff

[dreamy wharf]

and i love all the crap i buy there

whoa dude

so black is less advanced?

[ripe pond]

yeah, most people just recommend to go with the red. There are probably quite a few places I could have gotten by with the black because I doubt I'll use scene control or rgb notifications, but I like the energy monitoring everywhere

[dreamy wharf]

thing is.. most of my lights are smart bulbs and most of the time the dimmers dont work

what do the notifications do?

[ripe pond]

so the reds also have a smart bulb config, where it will keep the power to the bulb all the time

[dreamy wharf]

like what can they tell you

[ripe pond]

black probably do too

[dreamy wharf]

!!!!!!

smart bulb config?!?!?!

can i dim my smart bulbs from them?!@!#@!

[ripe pond]

yeah

[dreamy wharf]

DUDDE

ive been trying to find that in a switch forever

[ripe pond]

they're seriously the best

[dreamy wharf]

fuck man.. now im mad i bought all this other crap

[ripe pond]

haha, sorry

[dreamy wharf]

lol

yo but okay

one sec ima cancel amazon

so wait what do the RGB notifications tell you?

[ripe pond]

so if your smart bulbs are z-wave the reds can control them directly, if not they can still dim them through the hub

[dreamy wharf]

cuz for $5 i dunno that i need that

my bulbs are zigbee 😦

[ripe pond]

https://support.inovelli.com/portal/en/kb/articles/what-s-the-difference-between-red-and-black-series

so you need the reds

blacks only support z-wave smart bulbs

[dreamy wharf]

oh

[ripe pond]

rgb notifications are like if you left the garage door open and it's after 8:00pm you can configure home assistant to turn the led red instead of blue

[dreamy wharf]

you're sure they'll dim my smart bulbs?

cuz most of the ones i tried couldnt

even if i just do it through HA that's cool

[ripe pond]

yeah, do you have a zigbee stick or are you controlling them through the cloud with like hue or something?

[dreamy wharf]

i have a Smartthings hub

that does zig and z-wave

[ripe pond]

https://support.inovelli.com/portal/en/kb/articles/how-to-control-a-smart-bulb-from-a-smart-switch-smartthings

read that. you can configure it so like a double tap on the bottom will dim the bulb by 5% or automatically dim it to 20% brightness, top can increase 5% or auto 80% brightness. you can have like 5 different scenes for each button.

it's better with zwave direct association but still a pretty solid option compared with taping over the switch

[dreamy wharf]

Amazon:

Ships from Inovelli
Sold by Inovelli

so its their store

so shipping should be same>

? probably

[ripe pond]

oh yeah, I'm sure that's by them and they'll ship them out just as quick. If you're spending less than $100 it's probably the way to go.

[dreamy wharf]

yea lemme try them out then maybe ill just redo the whole house if they're as good as they look lol

[ripe pond]

I started with 3, then bought 3 10-packs about 4 days apart for each

[dreamy wharf]

lmao

so you have any other gems?

this is my HA product i LOVE:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/EcoSmart-60-Watt-Equivalent-A19-Dimmable-SMART-LED-Light-Bulb-Tunable-White-2-Pack-A9A19A60WESDZ02/309683612

$5 zigbee smart bulbs from home depot

Ecosmart

they're great.. they don't do the gay RGB but they're tunable (temperature)

i cant think of any reason id ever want a red or green light in my home though... "Cool white" and "warm yellow" is great though

[ripe pond]

those are nice. I wish I could do those for the circadian lighting but most of my bulbs are those edison look led

[dreamy wharf]

oh i love those edison bulbs

you have any good edison smartbulbs?

and yea i do circadian lighting

you think i can configure the inovellis to change color temp?

[ripe pond]

yeah, with the scene control you could make it so the little button toggles the color

or a double tap, or triple tap, etc.

they seriously have so many config options

[dreamy wharf]

yea im already in love

[ripe pond]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T4NPS1H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 These are the only edison LEDs I've had to buy. The standard base size ones were installed by our builder. They dim and don't have much of a hum. They're expensive though. $3 for a dumb bulb and I had to buy 60 of them.

[dreamy wharf]

ive been going crazy trying to find a dimmer to control my EcoSmarts

[ripe pond]

when I say don't much if they're low they hum for a second and then it stops

[dreamy wharf]

i just settled on a damn remote

[ripe pond]

yeah, I think you'll be really happy with the reds. like you can configure that double tap or triple tap however you want. If you want it to make it a bit dimmer each time you double tap it can do that, and you can have set ones for 3/4/5 taps or whatever

or you can do it where 5 taps down turns all of your smart lights out

[dreamy wharf]

although i got the Hue remote which is actually great

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Hue-Dimmable-Installation-Assistant/dp/B01N4OMRJ9

[ripe pond]

I'm considering picking up a few hue bulbs even though all my lighting stuff is z-wave right now. I want to try the color functions for our shower light and my wife wants to have them change color in our exercise room. There are a couple other places I can see color like almost like a notification, but for the most part I think the rgb is kind of a gimmick

[dreamy wharf]

yea i hate rgb lol

except like youre saying

[ripe pond]

$5 for tunable white is a deal though for sure

[dreamy wharf]

you can do some cool accent lighting with RGB too

yea dude.. i got like 30 from Home Depot lol

i came out with a cart full

you have any other smart devices you like?

or recommend

[ripe pond]

smart locks if you don't have them are awesome. If you tinker esphome is pretty cool. I built a lock for my nightstand drawers using esphome that is awesome

[dreamy wharf]

ill use these inovellis as an excuse to chance out some of the Wifi (yuck) switches i have

yea i love ESPs

[ripe pond]

I feel like almost everyone who start with a wifi switch eventually comes around

[dreamy wharf]

yea im glad i didnt buy a zillion

i got a 4 pack

[ripe pond]

local control and integrated is key. I have a few aqara contact sensors that automatically turn on lights when the door opens. a lot of wifi ones mean you can use the app or alexa but not do things like that

[dreamy wharf]

i wanna try this too:

esphomelib - A comprehensive solution for using ESPs with Home Assistant - Home Assistant

https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2018/06/05/esphomelib/

i think they have a zigbee type ESP now too

[ripe pond]

I don't have a lot of other unique devices yet either. I just move a couple months ago. I'm hoping to get motorized roller shades installed in the next couple weeks. I prewired for them so hoping it works out great.

[dreamy wharf]

yea im looking for stuff that integrates well into HA

[gloomy spoke]

That's ESPHome, which Nabu Casa just "acquired"

[ripe pond]

yeah, esphome is awesome. that's how I built my nightstand locks and it was super easy

I've coded them by hand before but it was stupid-easy to get the locks working using a relay

[dreamy wharf]

the Wyze cams are great... $20 security cams

https://lustre.ai/indoor-home-security-cameras

and you can flash them to make them work w/ HA

[ripe pond]

yeah, they're a super good bargain when you use them with RTSP

[dreamy wharf]

ill order some aqara contact sensors too

[ripe pond]

I bought a ton of aqara devices when they were on sale for black friday. They're actually even a little cheaper than the sale price on ali-express if you're in no hurry at all. I bought the temp/humidy sensors, some vibration sensors, a ton of leak sensors, a couple cubes, some buttons. Pretty much everything

[dreamy wharf]

i have some z-wave contact sensors but theyre for 'secure' areas.. i dont have contact sensors on every door

i wanna make some ESP motion sensors too

[ripe pond]

similar, I did wired sensors on my exterior doors, but like my pantry door has the aqara sensor

you can do clever things with the vibration sensor. Like after my laundry machine finishes I can use it to tell if the door has been opened

[dreamy wharf]

i got these to play with - https://www.amazon.com/ELEGOO-Upgraded-Tutorial-Compatible-MEGA2560/dp/B01MG49ZQ5/

oh thats a good idea

[ripe pond]

wow, that's got 1 of everything huh. I might pick one of those up soon

[dreamy wharf]

i was thinking of wiring an ESP into the laundry buzzer and using the voltage signal to trigger an event

yea they're good to play with and prototype

then if you need a bunch order more

im making a SIRI-enabled coffe machine so i can tell SIRI to 'get me some coffee b---h'

[ripe pond]

oh, that's another one. I have a couple power monitoring outlets that let me monitor my dishwasher cycle

[dreamy wharf]

Sonoff makes really good basic cheap stuff

little zigbee controller - https://www.amazon.com/Compatible-SmartThings-Philips-ZBBridge-Required/dp/B08MJL8G3C/

oh yea the power monitoring is a good idea

the regular sonoff uses an ESP.. i wonder what the Zigbee sonoff uses.. i'd love to pick up a bunch of those chips off Ali

@ripe pond .. check it https://sonoff.tech/product/wifi-smart-lighting/b02-f

[ripe pond]

oh man, that's awesome. Not available in the US though

[fringe moon]

Philips hue has similar bulbs

So does ikea

Zigbee > WiFi any day

[fallow cape]

Most of the full size Ikea tradfri zigbee bulbs are pretty decent, sure can't beat the price.. I would stay away from the GU10 bulbs though, they tend to break fairly quickly and will flash rapidly if powered on. Haven't tried the vintage looking ones that @fringe moon is referring to though: https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/tradfri-led-bulb-e26-250-lumen-wireless-dimmable-warm-glow-globe-brown-clear-glass-50455677/

appears to be discontinued in Canada, not sure if it's getting replaced?

[fringe moon]

I have...... 24 GU10 tradfri bulbs, 12 of them outdoors in -35c - +35c for almost 2 years

I'd call them stable

[winged knoll]

I've only got three Ikea bulbs so far, one GU10, and they're behaving fine

[fringe moon]

The only bulb out of my .. 70 or so bulbs that have broken so far

Is a hue bulb

After less than a year

[winged knoll]

The Osram I bought died, but it turned out they're known for being crap

[fringe moon]

They sold them out here in stores, because they all stopped selling them

For like $1 each

[fallow cape]

I've gone through more of the Ikea GU10 bulbs than I can count, really

Even swapped out the fixture, still the same problem

switching away from smart bulbs in favor of switches where I can though

the osram ones sold in the US are a real pain in the ass because they use ZHA and you basically can't connect them directly to any commercial hub sold in the US

not that osram's around anymore anyways

[fringe moon]

That sounds like a problem with your house \ power grid than anything else though

[slate cipher]

my whole home is hue bulbs

never show the wife the receipts

[fringe moon]

hue just isn't worth it for me

I just want CT

and I can buy 4x tradfri for the price of a hue

[slate cipher]

i don't think Ikea bulbs were around when i started building my hue collection

[fringe moon]

They've been around for.. atleast 3 years I think

[slate cipher]

been using hue since they came out, the missus purchased some for work for a media lab she set up, I liked the idea so went crazy, so technically its her fault!

[scarlet flume]

New to Home Assistant, quick question. I'm getting my hardware now and wanted to see if anyone has any good recommendations for buttons that work good with Sengled products? 🤔

[winged knoll]

Well, what matters is what works with HA 😉

[bright jacinth]

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

• Which country you're in
• What your budget is
• What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
• Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)

Command '.what' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble idol]

Hi
Just ordered an odroid N2+ and 3D print of the case. How do I add a wifi dongle? I have one with me. Do I put it into the USB port while installing hassio.?

[winged knoll]

#330990055533576204 can help you with that

WiFi + server is a bad ideal though

[fringe moon]

[edgy fog]

It's not that simple. If your server is serving only low-ish bandwidth stuff, wifi is fine. If you server is only serving to wifi clients, wifi is still probably fine. You only need hardwired Ethernet if you're streaming media or have other high-bandwith needs.

[fringe moon]

Since we are two people who work with systems that have 99.999% uptime, and are supposed to be reliable, we will never advise anyone to run a server on WiFi

Or even better uptime than that

[edgy fog]

Why is your wifi uptime lower than your Ethernet uptime?

My wifi isn't down unless my Ethernet is also down.

[fringe moon]

I never said my WiFi was down, but noone in their right mind would run a server on it

[edgy fog]

Because why?

[fringe moon]

Because it is generally more unstable, unpredictable and can easily be blocked or intercepted

[gentle fossil]

trust them. you don‘t put servers behind wireless links. you don‘t.

[edgy fog]

If by "server" you mean some rack-mounted monster in a a refrigerated server room, sure, put in on your Ethernet.

[fringe moon]

You are serving something, that you rely on

It is a server

[gentle fossil]

there is no definitive description on how big a „server“ is.

[edgy fog]

WiFi ins't unstable. Mine works all the time, just like my Ethernet does.

[gentle fossil]

until it doesn‘t. because your neighbors crap isp router uses your channel

[edgy fog]

Until lightning fries my Ethernet cable.

[gentle fossil]

even when it rains heavy, wifi 2.4 is under stress

when a lightning hits your cables that‘s a different story. there‘s more damage than hitting a „server“

[edgy fog]

WiFi works as well and as reliably as Ethernet, for simple appliances. The only difference is bandwith. Or the extremely unlikely event that an intruder would try to hack your internet instead of breaking a window.

[gentle fossil]

you just never served critical infra, did you?

[edgy fog]

Yes I have. You're claiming that everything "served" is critical infra, and it isn't.

[fringe moon]

If your whole house depends on it

It should

If you are hosting game servers for teenagers, have fun with WiFi servers

[edgy fog]

And there's the difference. If you're going to die because a light didn't come on, then by all means armor your system.

[gentle fossil]

wifi is for clients. simple as that

[edgy fog]

If you're host high-bandwith, use ethernet.

[gentle fossil]

wificlients

[edgy fog]

Repeating something doesn't make it true.

[fringe moon]

It is so easy to wire a system, WiFi makes no sense

For anything but mobile devices

[gentle fossil]

at that point he's just trolling

[edgy fog]

wifi make sense for people who aren't geeks or handy with tools.

[fringe moon]

Have fun with your easy WiFi, hope you never get a job in actual critical infrastructure it

[edgy fog]

Have already had such. And, again, not every server is critical infrastructure.

[empty sandal]

Does anyone know if there's an actual "official" Aqara store on aliexpress (or something like aliexpress)?

[worldly barn]

what is the best USB Z wave dongle to get for my NUC. gonne be setting up HA here soon

[fringe moon]

#zwave-archived knows

[coral rivet]

Not aware of such no, they pretty clearly point to purchase from your official retailer to avoid issues with warranty.

They probably want to keep it that way for many reasons (ie. western countries have a whole different selection of products than china markets) and rely on country-specific retailers.

[fierce badge]

I have this Tuya Smart Video Doorbell that is a two piece device
The screen which I presume holds the system and firmware
And the camera that plugs into the screen , the camera is also wired to a gate; and there's a button in the tuya app that opens the gate .. I want to integrate this with home assistant but non of the methods discover my device (The Tuya CLI Method discovers it but doesn't connect to it)

I also tried to make an automation that activates the button but for some strange reason the switch to open the gate is not listed anywhere in the app i've tried every automation available 🙃

[bright jacinth]

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[cursive yoke]

I am pretty sure this is what is causing my core/db reloads. Should have a m.2 SSD and an Argon case waiting for me when I get home

[brittle bolt]

I'm planning on setting up home assistant on my home server to control some smart plugs and lights. I already have a wemo plug and GE RGB light. I hate them. I need to replace them ASAP, but I don't know where to look for hardware that doesn't run on a cloud.

I just want to be able to turn them on or off when I arrive or leave home

I saw something while I was googling about flashing devices, I'm definitely down to do that

[gentle fossil]

anything #zwave-archived or #zigbee-archived will do

[drifting grove]

I'm planning om setting up HA on My NUC. I will be using both zigbee and z-wave devices. Is Aeotec Z-Stick gen5 a good choice as z-wave controller/usb-stick?

[fringe moon]

Sure, but #zwave-archived might know more

[smoky moth]

Heey guys, do you know a hub/bridge/adapter that I can hookup onto my HA server with a cable (I don't mind if it's USB, Ethernet or GPIO as long as it's wired) to control my Home theatre devices, my RF controlled ceiling fan and roller shutters? As an RM4 Pro still requires Wifi, this is not the solution I'm searching for.

[fallow cape]

I like my Samsung branded zigbee multisensors, but they've been discontinued as well. There may still be some out there in the channel..

but that's zigbee, so it'll need something

if you're intending upon continuing to build your smart home, though, don't shy away from a hub, it will greatly constrain your options

[gloomy spoke]

That seems contradictory

‘Don’t use a hub’

[fallow cape]

What I said?

Let me try again. :p 'If you restrict yourself to devices that require a hub to operate, you will greatly constrain your options'

[gloomy spoke]

That’s better

I was trying to be more succinct 🙂

[rare tulip]

Hi. Having max speeds of only ~64mbps when uploading files to HA media via samba share.
Setup: hass os 64 bit on Rpi4 with connected kingston ssd via usb 3.1 enclosure. Rpi4 is wired to the network. SpeedTest.net integration reports ~300mbps to internet.
What can cause that local 64 mbps bottleneck?
Is there any recipe to measure io speed in HA?

[winged knoll]

I'd ask over in #330990055533576204 @rare tulip

[smoky moth]

Okay. Let me ask this differently, is there a way to do the same thing in the video below while only using the HA interface itself instead of using a program like PuTTY: https://youtu.be/5UUazFbK-Hg

Also, if I were to use a more powerfull PC that doesn't have GPIO pins, how would you achieve this? (That's unless you know a board that is both powerfull enough to handle 3 screens, with 3 different tasks of which 1 can be used for Netflix and YouTube etc)

And has GPIO pins))

[winged knoll]

Mobile chargers will rarely supply the required power, their above 1A output is often tied to thinks like QC. It won't kill anything, but things may not work as the Pi is underpowered

[winged knoll]

#diy-archived would be a place to ask about building your own smart outlets - unless that's not really what you want (I'm going by the title, rather than wasting 8 minutes watching the video 😉 )

Yeah, but... under what conditions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Power

Devices have to negotiate the power that can be supplied

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Charge for example, for a non-standard way

But the Pi doesn't 😉

It may work, https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/raspbian/applications/vcgencmd.md is a useful command - get_throttled is the argument you need to find out if the Pi is suffering

[smoky moth]

Well, it's actually hooking up an RF module ti a Pi and controlling off the shelf RF outlets. As he uses Putty to configure that into his system, I wondered if it were possible to exactly that while only using the Lovelace interface

[winged knoll]

Maybe

It all depends on the commands used, and the setup, but ... I'd be doubtful

Of course, you don't need PuTTY - you just need an SSH client of your choice

Based on the Python code in the links, I'd be guessing no

[indigo bramble]

https://i.imgur.com/Mwxt67M.png

can someone explain the load 1m

is that why im having hue troubles?

[gentle fossil]

is it a 10 core system?

[winged knoll]

http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2017-08-08/linux-load-averages.html

https://www.tecmint.com/understand-linux-load-averages-and-monitor-performance/

[indigo bramble]

its an rpi3b lool

[winged knoll]

Then ... 10 > 4 😉

[indigo bramble]

mhmm, i guess i should upgrade, any suggestions?

[winged knoll]

PC of some form

NUC, old laptop, anything from the last decade that's running something other than Atom, with at least 2 cores

[indigo bramble]

thats going to be tuf

ill be searching for one i guess

[winged knoll]

eBay 😉

[indigo bramble]

yeah thats more of a hassle here

[winged knoll]

The channel history likely has quite a lot of suggestions, given how often people ask this

[indigo bramble]

sadly i cant use phones

got a spare 845 device here..

[hearty burrow]

noob question, but will devices like Sonoff mini or Shelly 1 still work without wifi connection?

[winged knoll]

If they're WiFi based, no

[smoky moth]

Do I really need an SSH client or can I just do this in the interface of HA?

[winged knoll]

I refer you to my previous responses about not watching all 8 minutes of that video to see what's going on

[fallow cape]

@indigo bramble might be worth checking your thermals

[analog token]

Hoping someone here has a product suggestion. I hope this is the right place for this question. I am building a new home and framing is about ready to start. I am trying to figure out what hard wired lighting control people are using. My goal is to keep as many devices controlled via a wire and limit my wireless devices. Any suggestions?

[winged knoll]

There's been a few forum threads on home kitout, but AFAIK there's a limited range of wired comms options, KNX is the only (modern) one I know off off the top of my head, but there's likely others

[analog token]

@winged knoll Thanks for the heads up on KNX. Reading up on it now. My local home automation guy suggested going with a Savant setup. Looks to me like all Bluetooth controlled. You have any experience or suggestion for that? If I were to go wireless what would be your suggestion on that? I have a lot of zigbee and zwave device now. They work fine, I just thought there might be a more polished package that people were putting in on new builds..

[winged knoll]

Bluetooth

Zigbee and Z-Wave are generally pretty solid, if you get the mesh sorted

I think Zigbee 3.0 is generally a better choice, but https://sensative.com/sensors/strips-zwave/guard/ is why I have Z-Wave 😄

[smoky moth]

Yeah, I see. So how would you control your RF devices?

[bright jacinth]

@smoky moth When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

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[winged knoll]

You really don't need to keep tagging me

I deliberately have zero RF devices, so I wouldn't

I'd buy something Zigbee, or Z-Wave

[smoky moth]

I see

[fringe moon]

I have two rf devices left

Both temperature

But they will be replaced soon

[smoky moth]

So how do control them in HA?

[fringe moon]

Control what?

[smoky moth]

Your rf stuff

[fringe moon]

There is no control of temperature devices

Just reading

[winged knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/rimshot-pun-joke-ba-dum-tss-drum-gif-15808941

If only the pinned messages had some key questions that would be relevant to answer 🤔

[smoky moth]

Well, as I only own rf sockets, this question is relevant to me

[winged knoll]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations#search/rflink
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations#search/rfx

Where in the world?

That helps people answer the question 😉

[fringe moon]

Just buy a ups

I connected my edge switch and RPI running z2m to a shared ups, $60

People care what a pi looks like

🤢

Nice, a generic settop box design for a subpar server platform

🤣

[winged knoll]

Well, most domestic UPS are battery backups 😛

I did find a few posts through Google, no idea how current/relevant they are

[fringe moon]

My ups is four times the size of a pi3 case, and is in the corner of a room behind a bookshelf

Sounds like a perfect use for a Poe powered pi when you already have ups' available

[little sentinel]

Does anyone know now many devices can connect to conbee 2?

[winged knoll]

#zigbee-archived would, maybe

[hearty burrow]

are off the shelf PIR sensors any better than HC-SR501 + esp? Or is it just the same thing in a pretty box

[dawn fjord]

For smart bulbs, is it okay to put adapters on them?

e.g. I have some E27 bulbs and this looks like it takes E14

[winged knoll]

Yeah, they'll be fine

[dawn fjord]

Cheers Tinkerer

[torn spoke]

Looking for a recommendation. My very simple goal with HA right now is to replace this obnoxious physical outside light timer (it's like a 24h big clock with loud tick-tocks and physical levers you set to get tripped at certain times as the clock rotates) with one that will control the lights according to sunrise and sunset. I have HA up and running and so I think the next thing would be a physical switch that I can integrate with HA to replace the current timer contraption.

Any recommendations on an appropriate switch?

[indigo bramble]

shelly 1 has a fallback

so yes

in detached mode

[dreamy wharf]

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/what-are-your-absolute-favorite-home-assistant-compatible-smart-devices-the-ones-you-absolutely-love-and-cant-live-without/292286

looking for reccomendations

[torn spoke]

Any particular reason you like z-wave/zigbee vs wifi, or does the protocol essentially not matter. I don't have a z-wave or zigbee hub, if that matters.

[winged knoll]

Because Z-Wave and Zigbee just work

WiFi is a shit show...

The majority of those devices work only with the manufacturer's cloud service

[torn spoke]

Ah, so to use something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DGEGJ02?tag=khalilkk-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 I'd really be integrating HA into wemo's cloud service?

[winged knoll]

Yup

If such a thing is possible - it's usually not

[torn spoke]

That's lame

[winged knoll]

That's closed ecosystems for you

[torn spoke]

Good to know, thank you.

I need a hub for z-wave/zigbee correct?

[winged knoll]

No

[torn spoke]

Oh

[winged knoll]

You need a USB stick

[torn spoke]

Oooh

Okay, I can get a stick, but would you recommend a stick over a smartthings?

[winged knoll]

Yes

[torn spoke]

Okay cool, thank you.

[winged knoll]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/smartthings/

IoT class: Cloud Push

Cloud... for local devices...

[torn spoke]

Got it

Yeah agreed. Thanks a lot for the insight

[torn spoke]

Alright I've got this on order. https://www.amazon.com/GoControl-CECOMINOD016164-HUSBZB-1-USB-Hub/dp/B01GJ826F8/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Zigbee+stick&qid=1579274609&sr=8-2

And one of these. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B3LY1SJ?tag=khalilkk-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[indigo bramble]

What is the biggest bottleneck about the rpi3, storage speed?

I might have an old laptop (I think a dell vostro I could use

[coral rivet]

with sd card its pretty slow yeah, it has been often recommended by other experienced users here to go with just about any laptop from the last decade and its much better

its not really that powerful either, mostly the slowness is when the reloads happen, otherwise it just runs fine and does the automation

if you have it already and the sd card, give it a go, you can easily migrate away to the laptop

[indigo bramble]

Well I’m running it but the zigbee commands latency is incredibly inconsistent

So I might just migrate onto that laptop

Sometimes just turning the lamps off is a 5 seconds job

[torn spoke]

oh boy i'm on a 1st gen pi, i'll set my expectations accordingly

[tulip wyvern]

Hello 👋

[crisp mauve]

Does anyone have experience with a Denon HEOS 1 speaker? I've been sorely disappointed by the Symfonisk, and it seems like the HEOS will integrate nicely with Chromecast/Spotify/Home Assistant, has aux, and is way cheaper than any other speaker I can find with these criteria.

[fallow cape]

That's a big issue with things leaning on wifi - they're talking to a server hosted by the manufacturer of the device, sometimes encrypted or otherwise proprietary, so whenever that goes down, so does your sensor/device/etc. Something like zigbee or zwave that's open, you don't have to worry about that, and zigbee and zwave have been around long enough that there's ample community support.

something like a smartthings multisensor - sure, it's samsung branded, and 'intended' for you to pair with a smartthings hub, but you can pair it to a conbee II stick or something running zigbee2mqtt

Not particularly as long as you have support for it with your hub/coordinator of choice. zigbee is more common and cheaper, z-wave is more expensive, harder to find, but some say that it's more reliable than zigbee. I don't have any z-wave devices myself so I can't speak to that aspect

I use a samsung multisensor as a contact sensor, I don't have any standalone ones

I have it mounted to my freezer door, and an automation fires in HA if it's open for more than x minutes

Around six months, I think? Not sure off the top of my head

depends on how often it senses movement, since zigbee 'sleepy' devices rarely talk on the mesh unless they have new information to report

The SmartThings Multipurpose Sensor uses a single CR-2450 battery. It needs to be replaced every 6-12 months, on average (mine died after 9 months).

depends a lot on the sensor type too - if it's only reporting as a contact sensor, it's going to update much less often than something like this sensor which does temperature, vibration, etc as well

[fallow cape]

Right. If you're dead set about not wanting a hub/coordinator, then you'll want to run something like zigbee2mqtt or deconz with the appropriate hardware, those run entirely on your own hardware

I have HA running on my unraid NAS in a server rack, and then a conbee II stick on a USB extension cable, just hanging loose in the air. Deconz runs as a separate docker machine on unraid, but it can run as a HA addon as well

If there's an appropriate integration for it, sure

HA doesn't exactly integrate with a zigbee or z-wave mesh network, it's more that it talks to the hub over your LAN via an API and commands it to do things

Wifi is probably least effort overall, but then you have reliance on the manufacturer's server and etc etc

[gloomy spoke]

there are local dongles for both #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived

those channels have more

and for both, you can locate the dongle whereever you want and have it communicate back to a separate HA instance

if you want

[fallow cape]

I think there might be some confusion on what a wifi device is vs something with a local dongle/hub as RobC specified which would also have connectivity to the rest of your network

in the home automation space, a 'wifi device' is something like..

I can't think of a better example, but a Google Assistant speaker

it will always rely on google's servers for that and cannot connect directly to a local dongle/hub/coordinator for automation

[dreamy wharf]

looking for suggestiong on Zigbee Tunable White E12 bulbs

[fallow cape]

TP-link, Meeros, etc are some other brands that I can think of that do smart switches and etc but they use wifi as well rather than zigbee or z-wave, which makes sense in some regards since they're plugged into the wall anyways and don't care about battery life

[dreamy wharf]

kinda like these

https://www.amazon.com/Candelabra-2700K-6500K-Dimmable-Required-Equivalent/dp/B07RSQW16R/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=e12+tunable+white&qid=1616385175&s=hi&sr=1-4

just Zigbee

[fallow cape]

full spectrum, or just white/dimmable?

[dreamy wharf]

Warm white to cool white

i do circadian lighting

not into RGB

[fallow cape]

ikea might be a good bet if you have one nearby, they're fairly cheap. hue has some as well for something a little more spendy.

[dreamy wharf]

i mean i'll take RGB if the price is right but in general i'm not a fan

ive heard good things about ikea lighting

[fallow cape]

Not sure about US pricing or where you are, but the white spectrum goes for $15 CAD a bulb up here

$30 for the full color

make sure that you're looking at tradfri bulbs and not their much cheaper dumb bulbs, though, as they carry both

[dreamy wharf]

yea usually something like $10-$15 for the E12 Candelabra bulbs

TRÅDFRI is Ikeas only Smart line, right?

Hmmmmm

@fallow cape check it: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tradfri-led-bulb-e12-450-lumen-wireless-dimmable-white-spectrum-chandelier-opal-30441498/

Now it's really easy for anyone to use smart lighting. This bulb allows you to choose between 3 colors and change from warm to cold light – and dim so you can adapt the light to different activities.

[fallow cape]

that's the one, though I was looking at round E12s in terms of pricing

[dreamy wharf]

8.99 is doable

lol @ philips Hue 49.99 for one E12 bulb

[fallow cape]

something like a smartthings hub may work for that, but you lose features when it doesn't have an internet connection (assuming that you might block it at the firewall or something) such as access to the mobile app. You'd still be able to get at it via HA, but ST is kind of a messy platform - many automations rely on cloud services but some work locally. I've just moved off of it in favor of a conbee/deconz config

[fallow cape]

might be able to find better pricing on that, I see those for $40 CAD at BB Canada.. but yeah, hue stuff isn't cheap. it's arguably the best you can buy, though.

[dreamy wharf]

oh crap i forgot about the TRÅDFRI hub 😡

[fallow cape]

you don't need it if you have another zigbee hub already

[dreamy wharf]

Smartthings is pretty awesome though

i mean if youre gonna get any hub.. get that

[fallow cape]

I think you might be underestimating the range of a zigbee or z-wave dongle. What would the distance be between where your server is now running HA and the first device you want to monitor?

[dreamy wharf]

zigbee dongle == infinite range

because zigbee devices transmit

and boost the signal

zwave too

i believe

oh

well shove some zigbee lights in a few places

[fallow cape]

mm, that might be a little iffy. My NAS runs in a full height metal rack as well and my first sensor's through a wall but it's only about 15 feet

[dreamy wharf]

i wrote about $5 Ecosmart Tunable bulbs here https://community.home-assistant.io/t/what-are-your-absolute-favorite-home-assistant-compatible-smart-devices-the-ones-you-absolutely-love-and-cant-live-without/292286/5

[fallow cape]

keep in mind that it forms a mesh network as well, so it only has to get out of the rack to one device

[dreamy wharf]

i dunno man

you can use the Shelly WITH zigbee bulbs

then the bulbs will be tunable

[fallow cape]

right, that's correct, actually

The cost of a smartthings hub likely appears inflated because samsung has sold their hardware business for the platform off to aeotec.. there are 2nd gen smartthings hubs available on ebay used for less then $50

[dreamy wharf]

or there’s a Zigbee Sonoff now

[solid breach]

I got my gen 3 ST hub for about 50 on ebay bc it was smudged on the outside lol

[dreamy wharf]

that should transmit

[fallow cape]

https://www.itead.cc/sonoff-zbbridge.html

I don't know much about sonoff gear but I don't see a published integration for it for HA

[dreamy wharf]

lol

[fallow cape]

IMO your best bet with your limitations would be a USB dongle with an extension cord out of the rack. Hell, you could even mount it at the top of the rack somehow and escape most of the metal interference issues

gonna take a picture of mine though just to give you an example

[dreamy wharf]

i mean i think zigbee is crazy secure

it’s not like a zigbee device can beam messages to china

cuz it’s not on wifi

they just talk to light bulbs and stuff

ohhh i don’t run their software

i think you can just hook it right to HA and skip that crap

i never install the apps

[fallow cape]

zigbee itself is not terribly secure, but we're talking about needing to do a driveby on someone's wifi network rather than over the internet, doesn't quite compare

[dreamy wharf]

not if you’re using a Zigbee dingle right to HA

yea i mean secure in terms of being able to spy on you for the Chinese government

[fallow cape]

https://i.imgur.com/D6QgRTP.png

[dreamy wharf]

USB should work with a VM no?

[fallow cape]

as long as it's passed through properly

How are you running HA, in a Hyper-V machine?

[dreamy wharf]

well in that case you could just run HA off the pi itself

i mean unless you have a crazy complex setup

yea i dunno then

[fallow cape]

Are you particularly wedded to HA, btw? Hubitat might be interesting for you

Which isn't to say that you can't run both simultaneously, but it's more or less the gold standard in offline hubs

Ah. I haven't used Hubitat myself but might be worth exploring if you're considering that sort of pi+dongle situation anyways: https://hubitat.com/ about $130 with integrated zigbee and zwave

very privacy focused

Personally I use a 'dumb' door chime for my front door as a contact sensor using honeywell branded products - can't look at it in HA, but hard to ignore the sound from the speaker

seems like you'd need a deeper than usual hole in the doorframe to fit that in

that's true, you can run deconz directly on windows.. I used that on my desktop for initial setup and then moved it with a backup file to the server

I'm surprised that you're looking at wyze hardware though if you're concerned about privacy.. IMO it's all super cheap for a reason

wyze is a weird company but it's hard to beat their cameras for the price

Me too, reminds me that I've been meaning to block their servers in pi-hole just in case

Huh, didn't know that was a thing, will have to check it out

[broken flower]

If it is just lighting you may have a look at DALI. There are a lot of cheap and well made LED controllers / Dimmers for it and also Gateways to eg. KNX are available. It is also non-SELF so electrical installation is easy (can be ran next to mains - at least in German areas)

[indigo bramble]

So I have a Vostro with a 3rd gen i7, that'll probably do fine right, 3537u to be exact

[analog token]

Thanks man! This looks like what I had in mind!

[low patio]

Hi, i'm looking for a motion sensor that works well with HA, currently using the IKEA motion sensor but it doesn't integrate well with HA.

• Price as low as possible for a well functioning sensor
• I currently don’t have a Zigbee bridge (only the IKEA bridge) so WiFi is preferred
• Powerd preferably via battery, I don’t have power to the location I want the sensor to be
• I live in the Netherlands but waiting a little for it to arrive isn’t a problem (e.g. AlieExpress Sonoff)

I also have a couple of bulbs on a different location outside of the LAN network my HA server is in, also have an option for this situation to toggle those lights on with a wifi switch or motion sensor? (like Tuya account which can be remote controlled)

Thanks for the help!

[gentle fossil]

wifi + battery is not good
wifi + low price is also not good
you either go with zigbee or zwave if low price + battery is your prio
a stick also doesn't cost as much as a full hub

[low patio]

And what would you recommend for the zigbee or zwave bridge?

For the different location there is an option to hard wire the switch but wifi is required there

[fringe moon]

Xiaomi aqara motion sensors, IKEA tradfri bulbs, zigbee2mqtt with a cc1352 or CC26XX usb stick

But #zigbee-archived has more

[low patio]

Thanks! And for the other location would something like this be any good or is it like burning your cash 😜

https://www.itead.cc/sonoff-dw2.html

[fringe moon]

🤢

[low patio]

🤣

[jovial wasp]

Raspberry Pi 3 Model A+ does this support HA??

[winged knoll]

HAOS supports it, yes

Other methods will also run just fine

Actuallly.... RAM is low

HAOS may not support it

[jovial wasp]

ohh

[winged knoll]

512MB LPDDR2 SDRAM

That's "quite low"

[jovial wasp]

then how much it needed min?

[winged knoll]

1 GB is the minimum, more is good

[jovial wasp]

oki

which is the latest pi ?

[winged knoll]

Pi4 something

Which is also USB-C powered, which solves some of the power problems

[indigo bramble]

whats the recommended installation method for an older laptop without windows

@winged knoll

[low patio]

I use ubuntu 20.04 and virtualbox

[indigo bramble]

recommend it?

im on ubuntu but idk about doing either a docker or vm

[low patio]

It's running great for me yes

i had a docker install and switch to HomeAssistantOS

[indigo bramble]

why so?

[low patio]

docker install method is just so much maintenance and set up whereas the vm method sets itsels up in minutes

and it's nearly plug and play

[indigo bramble]

cool

[low patio]

Sure there are also arguments for why to go with docker install but for me the vm installation was a much better experience

[indigo bramble]

Do you use ZigBee ?

[low patio]

I'm planning on buying a usb board

But currently the tradfri hub is running fine

[indigo bramble]

fair i had trouble with usb buit its fixed

[torn spoke]

is z-wave basically dead?

I was looking for bulbs but I'm getting the impression z-wave stuff is drying up

[gloomy spoke]

No?

Probably just fewer bulb options

[torn spoke]

Found an opinion that seems to make sense with what I'm seeing. https://www.reddit.com/r/zwave/comments/l73xyj/is_zwave_dying/glvp3d1?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[torn spoke]

Funny enough Inovelli has Z-Wave bulbs but none available on their site or on Amazon, it appears to be discontinued.

The shop at z-wave.com has nothing at all

[winged knoll]

No issues buying Z-Wave bulbs in the UK...

[safe galleon]

consider hue is zwave, monoprice has zwave stuff, there's zwave smoke alarms (but not zigbee) it's not dying

but an esp with a little cloud code is cheaper to make

the good and bad of zwave/zigbee is that you need a hub

zwave has the bonus of being a lower frequency than wifi/zigbee so it has a better range and can go through walls easier

[winged knoll]

Hue is mostly Zigbee 😉

[tribal estuary]

Hi! Do you have any recommendations regarding a tablet or a touchscreen to mount it on the wall for home automation?!

[worldly barn]

anyone in here using Kwikset z wave locks directly added into HA? im worried about adding those in and them working correctly. i googled it and found a bunch of issues with no real answer to them not working. i also need to be able to add in custom user codes and temporary user codes like i can with smartthings.,

[winged knoll]

#zwave-archived could help there

[slate basin]

How do i get the sonoff s26 working with home assistent?

[winged knoll]

That'd be #integrations-archived - have a read of the channel topics 😉

[slate basin]

But

It can be in both

[bright jacinth]

The topic of this channel is:

Questions about a hardware device (not their #integrations-archived with HA, and not the thing that HA calls devices)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff.

Problems with the Blue? See #330990055533576204

If you want to share images, use https://imgur.com/ or similar.

Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs

Command '.topic' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[winged knoll]

Top of the window 😉

If you're asking about integrating with HA then that's #integrations-archived

[slate basin]

But

[winged knoll]

🤨

[slate basin]

It needs to be flashed or something like that

[winged knoll]

If you were asking about flashing it then we'd direct you to #diy-archived 😉

If you're asking about connecting it to HA, that's #integrations-archived

[slate basin]

Ooh thanks

[winged knoll]

You don't have to flash them

[slate basin]

Huh

How?

[winged knoll]

Ask over in ...

#integrations-archived

[drifting grove]

Hi! This is my very first message on Discord 😀 I’am looking for a Zigbee pool (floating) temperature sensor... has anyone tips? They are hard to find online... I would like to monitor and control the heating system for the pool... 😌

[winged knoll]

Where in the world are you?

(You may also be better off asking in #zigbee-archived )

[drifting grove]

Hi Tinkerer! The Netherlands

[drifting grove]

Hi all! Really new to HA and I have 10 Kasa devices. I've added the TP link integration and 6 of them show up but not the other 4. Some are Hs110 plugs and others at KP105. Some of the ones that show up are the same models as that don't. Does anybody have any ideas of the reasons for this or can point me in right direction to find a solution? Thanks!

[floral sun]

If you migrate your nest account to a google account can you still integrate with ha?

With a thermostat

[versed talon]

I use HA on a rpi 4 with conbee 2 and aeotec z-wave. I have installed proxmox on a laptop. Can I use a snap-shot of the system or do I have to reconfigure everything ?

[winged knoll]

Snapshot will be fine, your install method channel can help more I'm sure

[serene plank]

Yes, sdm api requires it

[low dune]

My SD card (almost) died, but it seems that I can still access it via OS X

Does someone know how to read the contents of a HA OS sd card?

I couldn't find any specific mount instructions..

[winged knoll]

You just need drivers for EXT2/3/4

There's a pinned message in #330990055533576204 about it

[low dune]

Thanks, I will have a look! I already have Fuse on macOS, so perhaps the drive is dead after all 😂

[sly owl]

Anyone seen a cheap and smart (preferably ZigBee or 433 mhz but wifi works in worst case) monitor lamp? The Xiaomi Mijia Computer Monitor Light Bar has a 2,4 ghz remote but I don't think it's ZigBee.

[low patio]

Use a USB on/off switch which is zigbee?

there is one on banggood (for phone chargers so I dont know if it will work on a pc usb port)

[sly owl]

Does there exist usb powered switches like that?

Says wifi?

[zealous dune]

also wifi https://templates.blakadder.com/sinilink_XY-WFUSB.html

i never heard of a zigbee one

[low patio]

don't know 🙂

It's wifi based it says

[sly owl]

Hmm... Worst case I need to plug it into a zigbee/zwave/433mhz wall socket. It would be convenient with a usb switch on zigbee though.

[zealous dune]

i'm curious about that remote now

2.4ghz can be a lot of things

[low patio]

I think @zealous dune is right, also couldn't find a zigbee one

could be zigbee uses to much power?

[zealous dune]

no, quite the opposite

just noone thought to make one

[sly owl]

Hmm... maybe I should get a wall plug instead with usb output + normal 220V for monitor and speaker. Then I could have one switch turn on/off all those 3 devices. It's already annoying turning off and on monitor/speakers manually 😄

[velvet blade]

Do you know if those new devices will work with the current HACS integrations? I like the prices of them! I have some of the old wyze sense sensors 2 died but a couple have revived upon battery replacement.

[gloomy sequoia]

@velvet blade I don't know yet... I imagine they won't at the beginning

and have gotten this response from the wyzesense2mqtt dev: https://github.com/raetha/wyzesense2mqtt/issues/52#issuecomment-782936734

I haven't gotten mine yet, as they've been delayed until April according to wyze

whenever they come, I'm planning to handle them in HA via an input boolean that gets exposed to google home and flipped by a routine that pays attention to the sensors via the official wyze integration in GH (contingent on that integration supporting them, anyways 🙄)

[velvet blade]

TY!

[gloomy sequoia]

that's my tentative plan for now anyways

really I have no idea when or if they'll be supported well enough to use without the wyze app, which is a bit frustrating

and also that they were advertised as to ship in February, and are now delayed until April 🤦🏼‍♀️

apparently manufacturer delays, according to the wyze rep I spoke with

a month ago now lol

[wooden mica]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61SKQE2yl3L._AC_SX679_.jpg

I've got a few of these generic USB to TTL sticks, are they hard-wired to 5v or do I use a jumper between the pins to set a voltage? I know some have separate pins for jumping for that purpose but these ones do not.

[fallow cape]

think all you get with those ones is 5v or 3.3v

[wooden mica]

I checked TXD with the jumper between 3v3 and VCC and it was a little above 3.3v. My current plan is to stick a wire into the jumper between 3v3 and VCC and connect that to the sonoff zbbridge 3v3 port.

I think that would work I am likely wrong

[wooden mica]

That wiring didn't break it but the USB to TTL stick was struggling to connect to it anyway. Used another one I had and it worked.

[small mural]

Guys mind if I ask a potentially stupid question?

I'm new to HA & I see a lot of people on reddit doing a tuya convert on devices.

What is the point of doing this? Only thing I can find is it gets you off their cloud - but why is this necessary or wanted?

I have some smart plugs for example that are not tuya converted/flashed. I disconnected my ethernet from my router and I was still able to control my devices. So having a hard time figuring out the benefit

[wooden mica]

If your internet goes down, your devices still work (not the case for all). You can buy cheap products without worrying about analytics. You have more control over automations and you don't need to pray that there's an integration for that device.

[small mural]

hm, I was able to control my devices still without internet.

So seems like the main benefits would be more control/not worrying about crappy software updates

[wooden mica]

I'd say its mostly to take generic devices that all have their own badly designed apps and accounts, and to put them all on a simple software since they all use the same dozen chips anyway

And there is definitely some portion of users that just want new stuff to flash and modify for the sake of it (myself included...)

[small mural]

Got it - that makes sense. I appreciate the reply

Going to stick to non flashing for now but I could see myself becoming someone who wants to flash everything in the future. RIght now I'm just learning lol

[winged knoll]

See your install method channel

[tranquil nest]

Anybody use HunterDouglas powerview blinds? There's a HA connection for it, but wondering about the technical details. I don't want anything that relies on a web service to operate (ie, local only). But I'm having a hard time figuring out if the blinds need a SaaS service to operate?

[worn oak]

Hello all - just joined! I'm looking into a tablet for HA access around the house. Not wall mounted. Is a Fire tablet still one of the better options given the price point and limited horsepower?

[tranquil nest]

@worn oak I picked up a fire tablet over last black friday and it's a solid tablet for how cheap it was

I don't use it for HA, but it would do just fine

[worn oak]

Thanks! Ive used a few tablets in the past (not for HA)- but never the Fire tablet. Does it also enable for web surfing, or is it pretty scaled down?

[tranquil nest]

It seems like a perfectly fine tablet. Lemme go look up exactly which one I have. But it did web, and netflix well enough

Fire HD 10" 32gb - I paid $79 for it (black friday deal), is $150 at full price and I'd say it's worth that if you just want a general purpose tablet

USB-C charging is mildly annoying just because I don't have those cables in every drawer in the house. That's the only downside

[worn oak]

Thats great info.

I'll look into that. Thanks so much!

[orchid escarp]

anyone have recommendations for RGB Wifi lights that don't need internet (excluding lifx and yeelights) ?

[harsh hound]

cant find much done on better BLE range on pi4.. using esp32 and built in BT both pretty avg range

[fringe moon]

my esp32 covers 18m x 6m decent enough

just the upstairs living room and offices

[harsh hound]

ive got 3 around my single story house

would rather have 1 =\

[fringe moon]

for what purpose ?

[harsh hound]

easier for configs ect

[fringe moon]

no, what are you using BT for ? 😄

[harsh hound]

ahhh.. mijia and miflora

[fringe moon]

aha, same as me then

there might be options with external antennas for BT and ESP

but I haven't looked into it

[harsh hound]

yeah i cant find much info on it anywhere

ive got a mijia between 2 esp32's and unsure which one to have the config on

[fringe moon]

if you run tasmota you can go to configration -> ble config and see the signal strength

then select the strongest one

[harsh hound]

tasmota on the esp?

[fringe moon]

yes

[harsh hound]

whats the port to browse to esp32 via http

[fringe moon]

it responds to port 80

so just http://this.is.your.ip

[harsh hound]

getting unable to connect

[fringe moon]

then it isn't online 🤔

is it running tasmota ?

[harsh hound]

can ping

[fringe moon]

tasmota has web ui default on

[harsh hound]

maybe not tasmota.. just use the generic nodemcu esphome flash

[fringe moon]

yeah, esphome has no webui by default

Currently migrating all my esphome devices to tasmota

[harsh hound]

yeah maybe i should do the same

[zealous dune]

it doesn't have a webui even if you activate it 🤣

just a web page

[fringe moon]

@zealous dune I want to control multiple strips of ws2812 from one esp, make it so in tasmota

the only thing I miss from esphome so far

[zealous dune]

forget it

[fringe moon]

💋

[zealous dune]

use wled

[fringe moon]

Aye, then I need to use 2 ESP devices, one for lights and one for buttons

[zealous dune]

what an expense

how will you ever manage

[fringe moon]

I'M SENDING THE BILL TO YOU

[harsh hound]

what tasmota are u flashing your esp32's with ?

[earnest flame]

Hi please I need assistance...
My zigbee device dongle is not working when I plug to a raspberry pi

[fringe moon]

You need to flash with tasmota-bluetooth.bin @harsh hound

@earnest flame #zigbee-archived

[harsh hound]

tasmota-bluetooth.bin not default within tasmotizer? cant see it listed

[zealous dune]

http://tasmota.github.io/docs/ESP32

[fringe moon]

it is in the release files on github

[harsh hound]

boom might migrate one over play around with it

[fringe moon]

https://github.com/arendst/Tasmota/releases

tasmota32-bluetooth.bin = The Bluetooth version adds BLE support.

tasmota32 of course

[harsh hound]

tasmotizer supports esp32?

[zealous dune]

no

[harsh hound]

what windows tool can i use?

pyflasher?

[zealous dune]

if only someone posted a link to everything

[fringe moon]

I still use esphomeflasher actually

😄

[zealous dune]

that works? didn't know that

[fringe moon]

Yup

It's just flashing a bin

It's not magic

[harsh hound]

yeah pyflasher is fine

[zealous dune]

well, not quite. there's different bootloader files and whatnot

[fringe moon]

esphomeflasher does it correctly atleast

[zealous dune]

good to know

[frail kestrel]

Hey, Just got my HA BLUE and i ave this problem on the prepreing stage:

[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install homeassistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2021.3.4 -> 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.40/images/homeassistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2021.3.4/json: Not Found ("no such image: homeassistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2021.3.4: No such image: homeassistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2021.3.4").
21-03-26 11:10:18 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
21-03-26 11:10:48 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image homeassistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:landingpage to homeassistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2021.3.4
21-03-26 11:10:48 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image homeassistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant with tag 2021.3.4.

[bright jacinth]

The topic of this channel is:

Questions about a hardware device (not their #integrations-archived with HA, and not the thing that HA calls devices)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff.

Problems with the Blue? See #330990055533576204. If your install isn't responding then see your install method channel above.

If you want to share images, use https://imgur.com/ or similar.

Please use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs

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[winged knoll]

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Problems with the Blue? See ...

[worldly barn]

anyone using ge z wave hinge pin sensors. i excluded them from smartthings, factory reset by pushing the button 10 times, ive held down the button till the green light flashes and tried to include and nothing