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daring yacht
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hello there, somebody know that shelly dimmer 2 is fit to shelly button case? In compatibility list only she the shelly dimmer

hidden willow
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Was looking for some help with removing orphaned entities. I had some trouble with the lock-manager integration. During troubleshooting I removed the integration yet it left behind dozens of Input Boolean, Binary sensor, Input text, amongst other entities that I can't seem to remove. Does anyone know how I would go about getting rid of all of these? I've tried rebooting my entire server but they persist.

hidden willow
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I've attempted to completely remove them all from core.device_registry (and attempted core.restore_state as well) but they keep coming back after a reboot.

winged knoll
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The topic of this channel is:

@hidden willow Questions about a hardware device (not their #integrations-archived with HA, and not the thing that HA calls devices)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff.

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tidal grotto
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Ikea smart plugs are good £8 and they work with all zigbee sticks + Phillips hue hub, so best of both worlds IMO

burnt mist
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Thanks, will keep that in mind as there is an Ikea not too far away

tidal grotto
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another good reason to use them, as you can always get an extra one, nothing worse then going for a brand that takes 4 weeks from china

burnt mist
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quite true, I just need to buy new lights now as I realised the ones I had and were intending to use are actually battery powered not plug in 😄

tidal grotto
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Lightbulbs or wall switches?

burnt mist
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Christmas tree lights

tidal grotto
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Ah gotcha haha, I have 6 plugs in christmas lights over my place, all set to come on when I come home, and switch off with a button on the way upstairs

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All Ikea zigbee plugs connected to philips hue hub

burnt mist
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nice 🙂

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yeah a compatible wall switch to replace my normal light switch is next on the agenda

tidal grotto
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Anyone here intrested in the new Shelly 1L?

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I know tuya sell a zigbee version with no neutral, but shelly fire protection is'nt to be sniffed at

burnt mist
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that looks like it's for making none smart lights smart? I already have hue lights but would like a wall switch that just toggles them rather than full switching them off, will it work that way as well?

tidal grotto
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In your case you need to establish if you have a Neutral at your switch or not

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the buying advice might be diffrent depending

burnt mist
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I'll take it off again later to double check but I seem to recall just red and black, although there maybe two of one of those colours

tidal grotto
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There is an easier option if you don't want to mess with your lights, get a hue button or 4 button switch and buy a wall plate mount from ebay that goes over the top of existing lights

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but not bad option if you can't be asked

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I have an Aqara D1 No neutral at the moment

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I quite like it over the traditional switch tbh, lot easier to just press when walking in and out

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You from UK?

burnt mist
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yeah

tidal grotto
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I have no neutral, just two wires, one is for the light swithc other is live, so I needed a product that states no neutral is required

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Although awkward, makes it super easy to install as only two cables, just gotta make sure you get them right 😛

burnt mist
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always a plan when working with electrics

zealous dune
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There are plenty zigbee remotes (battery powered switches) for control of smart lights

tidal grotto
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I had the whole remote ontop of my lights for a while, but I wanted to get a brighter bulb as my room was bit dim, so had to look at the smart switch route

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Also new propert I am moving into has many of those 8 bulb lights, and don't want to change them tbh, so will go smart switches instead of bulbs

burnt mist
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don't tell me about even more things to spend my money on 😐

zealous dune
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but that's my favorite passtime

burnt mist
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lol

burnt mist
tidal grotto
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Yeah you did miss that out but tbh, I much prefer the dimmable option in that room to come from accent lightin in the corner like lamps or led lights rather then the main light

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Something like an Aqara no neutral double rocker

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On wired into the main light, and the other button you use in a autiomation to toggle lamps

winged knoll
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.topic 😉

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The topic of this channel is:

Questions about a hardware device (not their #integrations-archived with HA, and not the thing that HA calls devices)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff.

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winged knoll
drifting grove
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😄 im soorrry, ill move this 🙂

spice forge
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how can i increase the polling interval?

winged knoll
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Of?

spice forge
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A custom component

bright jacinthBOT
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Questions about a hardware device (not their #integrations-archived with HA, and not the thing that HA calls devices)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff.

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winged knoll
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🤔

spice forge
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looks like i did

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sorry learning the landscape!

winged knoll
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Always read the topic 😉

calm yacht
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Greetings! Okay, so I am totally new to Home Assistant, and I'm looking to buy plugs that will work well with HA - ideally without hitting the cloud. The information I've found so far has been in random reddit posts and forums, and seems to be changing pretty rapidly, and I only feel like I've found out about those changes by coincidentally searching and finding results that gave me info for that specific device. For instance, it sounds like Belkin is now going to start requiring their cloud account, or at least harassing people to move to it frequently: and it sounded like Tuya-based plugs could be modified to be local only, but now newer ones being made have had the exploit closed that was being used to flash their firmware?

I'm left feeling confused about which options are actually still viable. So given all of this, is there a solid go-to recommendation for a local-only smart plug that integrates well with HA?

Also, is there a site being well maintained with this kind of info (about which devices actually work well for local only, whether it used to but doesn't anymore etc)? I've yet to find one that gives an up-to-date scoop on these developing situations.

zealous dune
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zigbee plugs

calm yacht
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Ah, good deal! Thank you!

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Ooh, am I reading this right that Ikea's "Tradfri" uses Zigbee? If so that's fantastic, I'm all over it.

jovial pulsar
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That's correct.

calm yacht
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Sweet, thank you! Time to go hit up the Swedes this weekend.

winged knoll
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See also...

bright jacinthBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are support. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah! and Slaesh's sticks being recommended. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

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jovial pulsar
calm yacht
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Ah, interesting - thanks! I'll give those a read and check that channel out, thanks!

kindred vale
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can any1 recommend a good lux sensor (tried automations with sun.down/up sun.elevation, not really accurate) will it improve when it switches on when cloudy for example
an a better motion sensor , i have a tuya one and the delay is about 3s which is quite awfull ?

calm yacht
fringe moon
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Xiaomi sensors are great value, $8 each

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And ZigBee 4 lyfe

shy spade
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Just wondering, does anyone know of a 2 way smart light switch? Something like a sonoff tx or one that sits behind the existing switch. Just needs to support 2 switches please

winged knoll
plucky valley
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On the subject of devices, I also want to tie in IP cams and a local NVR into my home automation setup: are there any systems that you guys love right now? I have Ubiquiti/Unifi network equipment and would prefer to do POE for most of my cameras, but I'm not impressed at the cost of the Unifi cameras nor their relatively sudden EOL announcement on some of their older video products

jovial pulsar
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I don't think IKEAS motion sensor is good for measuring brightness. I believe it only reports dark/light and only updates when motion is detected.

compact surge
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Hi I have HA installed in VirtualBox. Where can I find the python installation so I can manually add quirks to the ZHA integration?

winged knoll
winged knoll
tepid carbon
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anyone good at command line regex, bitwise and logical operations?

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I'm trying to get a Digital Logger Web Remote PDU setup in HA and having issues figuring out how to get the status for the switch right

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currently I have this monstrosity: command_state: $(( (2**1 & $(curl -s http://haas:password@10.0.100.10/status | grep BODY | grep -zPo '(?<=)[0-9a-fA-F]{2}')) == 0 ))

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I'm not sure if this command is working properly, is there a way to run command line actions on HAAS when I've set it up on rPi4 with HAAS.io?

fierce finch
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Hello , does someone here has experience with a sonoff zigbee bridge?

young valve
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any hints on where to look for devices that seem to have lost double and triple and hold press states and now only allow simple on / off state changes in trigger types?

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I have confirmed the mqtt messages are getting into the mqtt server and dev/tools of the hass debug area can subscribe to them, but the automation area doesn't allow for the triggers that were ok yesterday (there was a power outage that has reset something, I'm just trying to work out what)

hollow stag
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Hi all, can someone recommend a motion sensor (zigbee) I can use with a light trigger via automation that can continuously detect that an area is occupied.

slate escarp
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Does anyone have a copy of the XVacuum APK they can share? The links from XDA and the russian site are 404.

random cosmos
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Does anybody have a keypad they use through the HA alarm? I don't have anything psychical for arming/disarming and need some recommendations

fickle needle
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I'm trying to figure out how the Shelly 2.5 handles switching. If I have a switch hooked up to it and I switch it off, the switch is now in the off position. If I switch it back on remotely, the load is on but the switch connected is still switched off. If I flip that switch back to On, does the Shelly 2.5 leave the load on or does it turn off the load?

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Found a screenshot of its web config which describes the options nicely. I cane make it work like that or in one of like a dozen other modes

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well, at least 5 or 6

hollow stag
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Any device out there on the market that can be placed behind a light switch that does not have a neutral wire?

fickle needle
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@hollow stag pretty sure that's just a requirement of physics. For the device to stay on it either needs a battery pack or a neutral wire to create a circuit and provide power so it can use its radio zwave/zigbee/wifi to listen to commands and report states

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you can have sensors that operate on a single wire, see 1-wire sensors

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well, actually data and ground so scratch that

undone haven
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@hollow stag , inovelli doesn’t need a neutral wire but you lose some functionality and it is an actual switch.

fickle needle
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@hollow stag @undone haven the "cheat" there is by trickling power through the switch afaik to allow it to power on

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enough to run its radio without running the light

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or am I wrong there

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which is why it only works for their dimmer, not their on/off switch

broken steppe
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Is there any link/list/conventional wisdom around which device integrations are well-supported and/or highly-used? e.g. how to answer the question "I want to buy a <switch, thermostat, whatever> to use with HA, which is the most supported/complete/used by others"

fickle needle
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@broken steppe go to github and find the integration code for that and look how many commits it has, how often it is updated, etc

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should give you an idea if it is actively maintained

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and how active it is

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for that section of code.

broken steppe
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that makes sense

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i mean that's actually getting to what i am looking at - the open source safety in numbers concept

fickle needle
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you can even get a feel for how many different contributors are contributing code

undone haven
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@fickle needle , unless you know what your doing, I would be trying to trick anything with electricity

fickle needle
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@undone haven I'm talking about the inovelli no-neutral thing

broken steppe
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so i'll be lazy and ask ... for the 146 switches on the site ... are they in 146 different repos, all in one, or some mix (upstream vs out of tree)

fickle needle
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their switch just trickles electricity small enough that the light doesn't glow or turn on, which is why it only works for the dimmer, and even then needs a bypass wired in to support low wattage loads

undone haven
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Also @broken steppe , check the integrations page.

hollow stag
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@fickle needle Thanks for the insight... I have several sonoff mini I purchased over a year ago; at this point I may just have to change the light bulbs instead of trying to take a shortcut to make the switch work

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@undone haven I will look into that, maybe that can be a cheaper alternative than to replace 16 bulbs in my home.

undone haven
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Innovellis are great little zwave switches

fickle needle
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@broken steppe standard practice is for contributors to create a library that is published via pypi for all the code that actually communicates with the integration, then contribute the code needed to use that library

broken steppe
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@undone haven that's where i started - looks like all i can do to narrow it down is to go back to first supported in version and see what is 'old' but that might not be exactly what i want

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@fickle needle i think i answered my question with the first-supported-in 🙂

undone haven
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Zigbee and zwave mostly work out of the box. Next is WiFi if there is an integration or custom component

fickle needle
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You can see that the "requirements" are "pychromecast". Home-assistant upon loading the "Cast" component, dynamically runs basically "pip install pychromecast" which is a library for communicating with chromecasts

broken steppe
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@fickle needle so what would get me close to getting what I am looking for is to do a quick analysis of commits in homeassistant/components/*

fickle needle
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this one is a fun example, because balloob actually wrote pychromecast years ago. Possibly even intending it for home-assistant, but it has become the de-facto standard for python to talk to chromecasts afaik

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@broken steppe and go find the repository for anything in the "requirements" of the manifest.json for extra nuance

broken steppe
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i'd undercount the use case where the interface is stable but the activity is in the project

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so next step would to be what you just said 😉

fickle needle
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but typically if features are added to the library that is required, code also be updated to use those new features on the home-assistant side

broken steppe
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but that's probably YAGNI cause then I'm chasing the scenario of somebody creates a fully featured interface to a component that isn't developed yet 🙂

fickle needle
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2kewl4skewl

broken steppe
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dude i remember when to see what new sites were on http you could go to akebono.stanford.edu/yahoo ... if you cared enough to leave gopher or WAIS

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;P

fickle needle
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I have sitting on my TV Stand the "Internet Kids and Family Yellow Pages" from 1997

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I wish more of the sites in there were still alive

broken steppe
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it's nice that ha is python. I'm just dipping my toe in now. have a few smartish devices in the home exploiting me now and the prospect of adding more annoys me

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i have a pile of (yet to be installed) lutron switches in the basement (that i think might be salvageable) and a bunch of nest stuff (that i'm expecting to replace)

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and i bought a dozen wall-wart AC switches that were verified to be flashable

broken steppe
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@fickle needle looks like i need to take out some stuff in the components directory (switch, sensor, light) ... manifest.json containing "quality_scale": "internal" seems to be the easiest way to do that

kindred vale
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does anyone know why one tuya light is not reporting its state very well , everytime i come into my lights section "vensterbank 4" is not following the adaptive lighting scheme while the rest is

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have to switch group off/on and its on the adaptive scheme again

winged knoll
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winged knoll
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☝️

drifting grove
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Hi everyone. Not sure this goes here.. I have a tiny project in mind but dunno whether it's feasible. I have one of this shabby intercoms I don't want to replace, but I'd like to build automations whenever somebody rings. I thought that maybe a sonoff with power consumption monitoring could catch that?

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I'd like to know whether that is doable before unmounting the intercom from the wall since I'm not really experienced with cables and such...

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any ideas are welcome

boreal horizon
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Hi all, new to Discord, Home Assistant and the word of automation. Got myself setup with HA and now looking to broaden my experience with themes customization etc before jumping into more heavier tings like energy usage, etc . Any hints and tips anyone has to share will be greatly appreciated,

gloomy sequoia
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@boreal horizon check out the channel topics

boreal horizon
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@gloomy sequoia thanks. been mostly on the Home assistant forums today trying our different codes trying to get things to work.

kindred vale
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zigbee conbee II , will it communicate to zigbee devices without the need of a zigbee hub ? and compatible with linux ?

fringe moon
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Yes, although conbee is not what I would recommend

gloomy sequoia
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@kindred vale that would be the hub

kindred vale
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@fringe moon any better alternative

fringe moon
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Zzh, slaesh, cc1352p2 and more

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And zigbee2mqtt 👀

drifting grove
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Quick question, i've got two device that are setup to track via the mobile app integration. It works fine with my wifes device, but won't update my location. I've got location services setup, and the device appears to be setup in HA.. but it's always stuck on Home.

harsh portal
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can anyone recommend decent 12v wired pir sensors i can use with my esp32 (want to mount on my ceiling throughout the house)

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10' ceilings in most rooms, some 12'

short aspen
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Since my IKEA hub died, I swapped it out for a RPi with a Conbee II dongle. Now I have moved over everything, everything works like before except for the remote. I can't get the buttons for warm and cool lights to work. Anyone having solved this problem?

placid creek
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I'm new to HA, and put my first Kasa bulb in recently.
I did some basic packet caps and noticed it only reaches out to Amazon AWS. I was considering maybe blocking cloud access but was expecting it to reach out to something other than Amazon AWS.

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I'll probably just create a rule to block the source network for my IOT stuff to Amazon's entire range of IPs. Has anyone else had experience with doing this?

misty wraith
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Has anyone here used a RTL-SDR receiver to get signals from a 2GIG takeover device for door/window sensors?

fickle needle
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I have an AC blower motor that has 3 different inputs for 3 speed operations. The existing switch has 4 positions, Off, High, Medium, Low. High Medium and low just provide power to different leads into the motor to control its speed. Is there any premade products that have a way to accomplish this in a smart manner, preferably with a physical switch of some sort?

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I'm assuming that it isn't particularly safe to use 3 separate smart relays because you aren't supposed to provide power to more than one of the inputs on the fan at any time?

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Like I can't have power to both Low and Medium, so the unit would have be able to to only provide power on one output at a time

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Or do I misunderstand and it isn't a problem to provide power to the additional inputs all at once for this type of blower motor

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More specifically it is this motor: 100102CF

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Alternatively, where do I find information on making a circuit that would have 3 relays, but the circuit prevents more than one relay being enabled at a time

hollow stag
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What’s the best smart lock that integrates well with HA?

twilit quartz
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Does anyone know if aqara devices can work with zigbee2mqtt?

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Nvm it does

undone haven
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@fickle needle ,an electrician

upper yoke
vapid flume
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anyone know much about Christmas tree lights?

fringe moon
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A lot of people

vapid flume
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🙂

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AC power pack I have converts 240v to 31v DC into the mode selector that then seems to spit out 33v AC

keen crow
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hey guys.
is "motion" the same than "presence"?
reason i ask is because i have a few motion sensors around the house for stuff like corridor lights.
but now i installed one in my office, because i always forget to turn off the light when i leave the room (:D)
however i notice that when i am sitting still watching a video, it goes to "clear" pretty quickly
i solved the light with a delay timer of course, but it got me wondering if i maybe approached this the wrong way with the wrong sensor type?

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winged knoll
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The hardware matters, because every device behaves differently

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The integration matters, because each integration may behave differently

keen crow
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well, asking here because i dont know if my hardware is appropiate

winged knoll
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If only you'd mentioned anything about it then 😉

keen crow
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a "motion sensor"

winged knoll
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🤦

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Because there's only one of those on the planet

keen crow
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yeah so, how does that alter anything of my question?

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is a motion sensor the same thing that a presense detector, if that even exists?

zealous dune
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in short: no

winged knoll
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They're two words for the same general thing

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Some manufacturers use one, some the other, and some both

zealous dune
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presence detection can be based on other things than motion

winged knoll
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But 99% of the time, it'll be motion

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Radar and others are pretty rare, and generally more expensive

keen crow
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ok, now that i understand that, i can formulate a more specific question:
i am using a SNZB-03 sonoff (zigbee) motion sensor.
should i be using something else?

winged knoll
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Nope

zealous dune
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no

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you could've led with that

winged knoll
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The device is doing what it's designed to do - detect motion

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No motion - no report of motion

keen crow
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so how does a motion sensor differ from "radar" that you mentioned above?

winged knoll
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A typical motion sensor is a PIR

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Radar is actual radar, with the potential to go through walls

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Things like Xandem use radar

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They cost 💰 💰

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If you want to detect seat occupied then a pressure sensor (or load sensor) is better

keen crow
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PIR: "Pyroelectric ("Passive") InfraRed Sensors"? (had to google it)

winged knoll
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Yup

keen crow
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hm, pressure or load sensor sounds interesting. can you suggest one?

winged knoll
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I can't, but I'm sure if you provide the details in the pinned message somebody will be able to eventually

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Odds are there's information in the channel history, and there's certainly going to be chat in #diy-archived about building them

keen crow
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ok thx.

uncut plover
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Hello! I hope this is the right channel for my question:
We have a USB DAC connected to an Odroid running Hass.io. It is recognised as a sound output device, but whenever we switch it on, there's a terrible buzzing noise coming from the speakers. It does also play the music, but it stutters quite badly and the noise is still there as well.
Whenever we change the volume in Hass.io the volume of the noise changes.

Does anyone else use a USB DAC connected to Hass.io? I feel like a setting may be wrong somewhere but I have no idea where.
The DAC is a Creative Technology USB Sound Blaster HD, Hass.io is running on an Odroid C2.

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We're running Home Assistant OS by the way, version 5.7.19

sudden shadow
drowsy dust
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Hello Everyone, I have a very quick question on wiring a Broadlink switch, there are two light switches currently with no neutral, there are 4 wires (2 white 2 black) in the wall but only 3 connections on the switch any idea how this would be wired? I hope this is the right place to ask this

winged knoll
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Where in the world are you?

drowsy dust
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Canada

winged knoll
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Oddly, wiring standards aren't global 😉

drowsy dust
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Well of course not, that would make things too easy

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im assuming ill have to tie two of the wires together, its an older home so the old switches act as a circuit breaker.

neon kindle
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probably a dumb question but i have a zwave thermostat, do i have to set up a 'generic thermostat' in HA to control it?

winged knoll
neon kindle
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hm ok

drowsy dust
winged knoll
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Generally you'd tie the live wires together, but if you don't know please consult an electrician

onyx whale
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It sounds like you've got two switch loops in the box, so you definitely do not want to tie any wires together without at least being certain that both lights are wired from the same circuit, otherwise you'll cause all kinds of weirdness and/or a 240V short circuit. "its an older home so the old switches act as a circuit breaker" concerns me, and I second the recommendation to bring in an electrician.

drowsy dust
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Yes they are switch loops, sorry im a bit new to the terminology when it comes to house wiring, its two switches side by side each on a separate loop, both go to the same circuit breaker on the electrical panel in the house, but I think contacting an electrician would be the best plan here

winged knoll
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Letting the magic smoke out at 12V is bad. Letting it out at mains voltage (and amperage) is really bad

drowsy dust
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you mean 120V AC

winged knoll
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Where you are, sure

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Not here 😉

drowsy dust
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North America / Canada

elfin abyss
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anyone with a wyze cam tried both the rtsp firmware and wyzehacks?

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was interested in trying the rtsp firmware mostly for the ability to use it as a motion sensor but it's just too slow to be useful

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stream seems to be about 10-30 seconds behind

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it would be a minute behind with the nfs mount on wyzehacks, but it sounds like it would be far more reliable

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figure I could use the files from the nfs in a ffmpeg camera entity

upper yoke
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recommendations for cheap smart plugs that work with HA?

austere radish
sick heath
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hi - quick question. I've added an android TV media_player entity to my config, and now i'm trying to get it to show up in HomeKit so I can use the control centre remote, however that media player entity doesn't seem to be a TV entity and thus doesn't show in HomeKit as a TV, only as a switch. How do i do this?
I tried creating a homekit accessory integration but that didnt work either. if i try and do that with entity config it just shows as an occupancy sensor for some reason? I know i have to create automations to pipe the remote commands into ADB, but i dont know what to do to get to that stage

drowsy dust
upper yoke
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oh. i didn't know i needed a zigbee hub.

upper yoke
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are there any smart bulbs for t8/t12 type sockets like used in those long light tubes? I have that as a bathroom light.

harsh portal
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can anyone recommend some PAR20 RGB bulbs for my exterior uplights

hasty lake
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does anyone make a zwave fan switch that lets you disable that damn led light... my year old GE/Jasco unit doesn't.. doesn't let you set it remotely to direct or inverse indicating.

bright jacinthBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are support. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah! and Slaesh's sticks being recommended. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

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upper yoke
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can anyone recommend some cheap smart lightstrips for a bedroom that are cheap and work with HA?

polar quail
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Hey, does anyone have the original firmware from a SonOff SV? I loaded tasmota but want to roll back to the oem for some testing. I didn't think to backup the original code though.

vapid flume
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anyone here using mirabello LED RGB lighting strips ?

bright jacinthBOT
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Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
  4. What's the exact error message?
  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?
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vapid flume
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is this the best way to go or is there a native RGB panel for lovelace now?

winged knoll
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Best is a very personal thing though

vapid flume
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yep

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sorry, still learning with HA 🙂

worthy matrix
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this is @tawdry hearth 's affiliate link btw

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its a 3 in one to save soace

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space*

woeful talon
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Which outdoor motion sensor works great with HA?

hasty lake
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Zooz has one, further its model num

haughty zodiac
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has anyone any experience with the Sonoff dual switches? I've wired one into an external LED light, when the switch is off, i notice that the LEDs are still on emitting a small amount of light

weary tangle
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Does anyone know if ikea tradfri new button is supported in z2m and HA?

upper yoke
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@worthy matrix that link doesn't seem to work for me

worthy matrix
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weird one sec

fringe moon
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@weary tangle anything is supported in z2m if you add it yourself

weary tangle
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I mean in auto discover

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I'm not a coder unfortunately

fringe moon
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Maybe? Probably not? Read the docs and PRs for z2m

weary tangle
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it was realeased today is why im asking here

fringe moon
wind vale
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@upper yoke this is the place to ask about your devices!

upper yoke
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I have has integrations with smart lights, garage door, tv, vacuum, plex.

what kind of smart device should I purchase next? need ideas and want to expand. thinking of getting a broadlink to automate my cable box and receiver which aren't smart.

weary tangle
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Maybe control your heating

tidal grotto
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Hmmm whats the new king Zigbee Smart plug £8 or the new Lidl smart plugs £8?

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Lidl has a button, and is more local for me

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diffrent form factors and not sure if the lidl makes a noise when turning on (I like that)

kind igloo
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Anyone have a recommendation for a zwave, zigbee, or wifi relay? I was thinking of the Sonoff basic because I need to wire the power cable in directly (it'll be inside a box). Does it do power reporting?

brazen turret
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Does anyone have use tablets or some other touchscreen device on a table top or counter? I'd like a nice, clean look. Bet I've found is the Show Mode Charging Dock for the Fire HD 8. https://i.imgur.com/sJlAL4r.png

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I could just use any android tablet & any stand, but I really hate having the charging cable stick out the side like a sore thumb

plain pawn
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how can I see the raw data home assistant is storing from a device?

brazen turret
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you can check the state in developer tools, if that's what you mean

plain pawn
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yeah that's similar to what I mean, but I want to see it's history

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I have grafana hooked up to this entity of interest for example and it shows these gaps in the history

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and what's strange is that the logging on the device itself shows it's reporting rock solid every N seconds (configurable)

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what is interesting is the device (an amp meter) logs say 0.01700 A then 0.01600 A those two values (with 2 decimals of accuracy it says) and then when I look in developer tools it says .02

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so maybe if hass gets the same value twice it records it as one value.... ? anyone know if that's the case

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I think that is exactly what is going on

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being able to see the hass entity history would be helpful to troubleshoot this

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I just played around with the history area, and it shows lines between two timestamps but no points in between, so maybe hass just records differences

brazen turret
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How do I have my Person icon show which room I'm in using Room Assistant? I have two Room Assistant instances setup and the mqtt topic for my watch is correctly showing my location in MQTT. I tried adding an mqtt device tracker pointing to the room-assistant/sensor/bluetooth-mymacaddr/state with no luck

near plover
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@brazen turret I bought a FireHD8Plus + the wireless charging dock for it last week. I decrapified it some and installed wallpanel. I haven't used it much yet, but it seems like it's going to work fine.

brazen turret
near plover
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Yea

brazen turret
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where does the power cord plug in?

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*to the dock

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oh I think I see it

near plover
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underneath the A frame

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it has a spot to run it out the back side

brazen turret
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does look nice and clean, thanks

near plover
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No problem. I wanted something the wife would be OK with in the living room, it seems nice enough

daring yacht
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Hello there, somebody know how to save the OpenTherm gateway (nodo-shop) mode? I would like to use it with "Monitor" mode, but every restart it change back to "Gateway" mode.

tidal grotto
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Hmmm whats the new king Zigbee Smart plug £8 or the new Lidl smart plugs £8?
Lidl has a button, and is more local for me

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Diffrent form factors, my main question would be how well are they built to last

zealous dune
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ask again in a year or two

tidal grotto
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Lidl seem pretty open that all there devices work with other hubs

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not seen a company do that

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no funny business happening with locking them down

zealous dune
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because they're tuya based

tidal grotto
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Do look bit like blitwolfs plug

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If it was more well known but non techy consumer that they work with philips hue, I could see them selling a tonne

zealous dune
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they will sell a ton anyway

tidal grotto
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obvcourse, but might aswell get philips to discontue there 3x cost plug 😄

zealous dune
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you can send them an email

tidal grotto
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Hue is bit smaller

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does show up as a plug not a light, not sure if that has any advantages

zealous dune
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show up where

tidal grotto
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in the hue app

subtle flame
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There is anybody who has experience with LSC Smart Connect devices? sold by ACTION

upper yoke
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any way to privatize a home speaker so others can't cast to it? or do I need to make my own non google smart assistant like hello ada for that?

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my family always casts to my speaker by accident

fringe moon
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move out

cedar venture
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I know you can link HA to Alexa, and then use Alexa to control devices. But can HA send commands to Alexa too? Like play a track from spotify at a certain time?

gilded tide
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Any home security system recommendations ?

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With Nest out of the picture, I am bit at a loss for whom to go for

hexed raven
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I know some people that like abode but I cant speak to it in regards to HA

gilded tide
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nice, looking into it

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Why must the fob be so bulky haha

cedar venture
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A PC running BlueIris and some cheap CCTV cams, that's all you really need. I don't really understand why people pay a monthly subscription for this stuff

compact flume
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or motioneye

late bluff
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Question: How does one remove a ZHA device from the interface? I've got a device that HA isn't recognizing anymore, and I'd like to remove it, try resetting the device and retrying. I've ensured it's not in lovelace anywhere, not in any automations or scripts. It removed the name, but it still shows as a 'generic' sensor. Ideas?

acoustic niche
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I’ve flashed and configured Shelly 2.5s in the past, and I’m trying to add some new ones. I’ve always flashed tasmota. My config matches just as it should and also matches my others, but I’m only getting one switch instead of 2.... GPIO4=relay1, GPIO5=Switch2n, GPIO13=switch1n, and GPIO15=Relay2. All the others are what they need to be, I list those because I figure they are the ones relevant to this issue.

winged knoll
late bluff
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@winged knoll Thanks! Always happy to rtfm as needed!

winged knoll
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Well, that channel can help more than this one, given the topic here 😉

bright jacinthBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

Questions about a hardware device (not their #integrations-archived with HA, and not the thing that HA calls devices)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff.

Please use https://www.hastebin.com/ or https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs

Command '.topic' was invoked by: Tinkerer
light ridge
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anyone know if Treatlife plugs work with smartlife/tuya?

dire compass
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Hi! I'm using Zigbee2mqtt to connect some door/window sensors to Home Assistant. Everything works OK, except for the state values within Lovelace: Instead of Open/Close, I get On/Off (since they are binary_sensors). How can I get the correct status?

winged knoll
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Use customize to set the device class

tidal grotto
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Hey guys, I am looking to replace my Led controller with a zigbee one, I have a 20M Led strip in one run, which working fine for my needs as typically never on 100% brightness, I currently use the Magichome wifi led controller which does not work well with homeassistant, so prefer to just change for a zigbee one, the strip is set in GRB mode, and only had 4 pins, I am looking at this product, but not sure if it will suffice for 20M run - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001629650377.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.7e615c75eTy6q2&algo_pvid=17d9356a-ba5f-4375-bc10-7eeeaf3db38d&algo_expid=17d9356a-ba5f-4375-bc10-7eeeaf3db38d-0&btsid=2100bddf16074648621942891e31b4&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

winged knoll
tidal grotto
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yes

tidal grotto
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I think it will work for 20m, I want it relatively quickly and think I have 3 options

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£10 aliexpress and wait months, pay ebay resller selling at £20 same product or third buy this which is £27 but amazon warranty and it might be versatile if ever move onto RGB CCT elsewhere

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(future proofing) hmmm

subtle flame
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Hello Community, can you please tell me some easy ESP Projects for learning? I started today, my first one was a D1mini with DHT11 temp and humidity sensor. Please tell me how should I continue? Thank you.

zealous dune
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don't expect any of those led controllers to work with 20m reliably @tidal grotto

tidal grotto
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ofcourse but the lidl one is likely to work just aswell as my magichome £5 one do you think?

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technically speaking

zealous dune
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it'll work... the question is for how many seconds

tidal grotto
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Might give it a punt 😄

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ahh naa just checked the lidl ones are rgbw 😦

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haha

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I need rgb

harsh portal
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anyone feel like helping me with my first tuya-convert attempt?

subtle flame
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Anybody has a link from Aliexpress for Micro-USB Cables for ESP? I would like to order a bunch of it, but would like to buy a working one 😄 Thank you.

fringe moon
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You are worried about the quality of a micro usb cable , and suspect you won't get s working one?

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🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

subtle flame
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Im really new in ESP, yesterday I started to build a simple temp & hum sensor. I had 3 micro-usb cable lying on my desk. All of them working but only one was able to communicate with the ESP, because there are two types, only loading ones and loading and communication ones.

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hundreds of people here using ESP stuffs, im sure everybody ordering bunch of micro-usb cables, I just want to have a lets say normal one what is prooved its working and not dying in 1 day. After 3000 order from aliexpress Ive seen a lot of things trust me 😄

fringe moon
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yes, there are only charging cables, which is what I bring with me when I go travelling and might have to use public chargers

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yeah, I've had.... 2000 items probably shipped from aliexpress the last 2 years, I've had... 3 items that were wonky or have died on me

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I have so many usb cables around the house from buying electronics over the years I've never had to order extra cables

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I keep my old cables and reuse them

subtle flame
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You are right, maybe I'll look for it in my house and in my old parent house.

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and lets see how many ive got 😄

fringe moon
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I nab them at customer sites too, if the customer is throwing them away

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even with a broken connector I can still use it for projects

static beacon
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I would like to use trackers in the house using Bluetooth. Can someone recommend me a good BT adapter with a high range? I read that BT5.0 LE can go up to 400m with no obstacles. It would be great to use only a single BT stick to track devices in the whole house. But searching for devices i only find small usb sticks for in a laptop with a 10 meter range

winged knoll
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CSR 4.0 Bluetooth dongle

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Also, there's two parties - the device, and the stick - just because the stick can reach 400 meters (in absolutely perfect conditions, which means never) doesn't mean it can hear a device that far away 😉

static beacon
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yes i understand thank you. I was also looking to maybe buy a few raspi boards and run a few simple HA's sending data over MQTT to the main HASS machine. The Raspi zero W is very cheap and had BT on board. not sure if it will run HASS.

winged knoll
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Not really, but there's many other options

elfin abyss
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does anyone have a reccomendation for a good humidity sensor?

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the shelly h&t is on its way but I'm also planning on finally getting a zigbee bridge

fringe moon
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long live xiaomi

winged knoll
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Xiaomi Aqara (Zigbee)

elfin abyss
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and I'm feeling I could have saved a bit if I had just gotten a zigbee one instead

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so might actually return the shelly

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it's the batteries that's concerning me more than anything actually

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one time use and these cr123A ones aren't cheap either

fringe moon
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currently running all my xiaomi sensors on close to 2 years

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I have replaced a battery in the one in my greenhouse

zealous dune
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don't reinvent the wheel and just buy xiaomi

elfin abyss
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will have wasted a bit of money on postage if I'm returning it

zealous dune
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i had to change the battery in the original round one last month 😄

elfin abyss
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but I'll get most of it back

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ok, xiaomi are good, that's good to note

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seen people saying they go against zigbee spec a bit

zealous dune
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you could buy the sonoff one if you're stingy but aqara3lyf

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people say stuff

elfin abyss
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yeah I'll go with it

ruby flare
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Is there sth. like a pressure sensor that is compatible with home assistant? I need a sensor to analyze if a person is standing on a certain area or not.

fringe moon
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you can build one

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with esphome

cedar venture
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xiaomi humidity sensors here too. they are seriously tiny, far better than hue and smart things ones

heavy oracle
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I'm guessing this is asked a lot, but i'm seeing conflicting info online so nothing is conclusive. Can a switchbot standalone device be integrated into HA (without a switchbot hub)? The config yaml asks for the mac address of the switchbot which looks promising, however the switchbot app doesn't ask for any WiFi creds to connect the switchbot device to my router. Does anyone have any knowledge on this?

elfin abyss
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yeah it uses bluetooth directly

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so it's a bluetooth mac it's looking for

heavy oracle
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so that'd imply the switchbot device doesnt have a WiFi component inside it. Humm, is HA able to talk to the phone app and in turn talk to the device over bluetooth? Or is that effectively why the hub is essential.

heavy oracle
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the info online suggests if my HA host has a bluetooth dongle attached, and bluepy installed, then I can control it like that?

heavy oracle
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Seems like it will work with a BT dongle. My host/server is a physical mini PC, so I have no integrated BT device. So if I buy a BT dongle that feels like I'm defeating the idea of not buying a switchbot hub. Sorry for talking to myself. 😄

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Any recommendations on a compatible BT dongle that has a range of 10m and a few thick walls?

winged knoll
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CSR 4.0 is worth a shot - but "a few thick walls" means you'll be lucky

fallow hemlock
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I need help, what's the easiest way to implement notifications? (like water was detected by a leak sensor)

winged knoll
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But do see the long list of options on the site

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You'd send those using an alert or automation

heavy oracle
winged knoll
heavy oracle
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How much did you pay out of interest?

winged knoll
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Under £10 anyway

winged knoll
steel temple
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there's too many channels 😉

last torrent
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So i just got my google nest hub, and i was wondering could i cast my appdeamon dashboard on it?

winged knoll
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You could ask over in the AppDaemon Discord if it's possible natively, if not you can use catt

last torrent
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i like this idea better, is there a way to combine it with HA?

winged knoll
last torrent
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im using the container method

winged knoll
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Then you probably have to install that on the host and use SSH

last torrent
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ok ill ask over there thanks

vocal meadow
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have a question on configuring a device that has a switch and some sensors. Can anyone assist a new user ?

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anyone able to help ?

winged knoll
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Patience

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And, also, please read the channel topic 😉

vocal meadow
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it's tough learning a tool like discord when you have to use it to learn another tool like Home Assistant. Thank you @winged knoll . I will read the channel topic and then try to figure out what I did wrong.

bright jacinthBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

Questions about a hardware device (not their #integrations-archived with HA, and not the thing that HA calls devices)? Someone might have the same device and be able to help you out! If you've got a Z-Wave or Zigbee devices, see #zwave-archived and #zigbee-archived, #cameras-archived for cameras, and #diy-archived for making your own stuff.

Please use https://www.hastebin.com/ or https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share code or logs

Command '.topic' was invoked by: Tinkerer
winged knoll
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You're in the wrong channel 😉

bright jacinthBOT
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Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
  4. What's the exact error message?
  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?
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vocal meadow
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OK. thank you

icy rapids
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Good evening from Germany.

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I am struggling to set up a WOL device

winged knoll
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If you're asking about the integration please read the channel topic

icy rapids
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Well my PC is a device ?

winged knoll
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Did you read the topic?

icy rapids
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...

winged knoll
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Not the one word name of the channel, the topic 😉

icy rapids
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Can i borrow a showel

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i wanna bury mys3elve

winged knoll
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😄

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Don't worry, it's a common oversight

spice forge
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if I have HA installed on my rasparry pi is there a way to run tuya convert on it?

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or will i need to find another linux instance?

winged knoll
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Depends on how you installed HA 😉

spice forge
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i installed the os i believe. I see portainer can let me add my own images. Could i get a low end ubuntu image and run it there?

winged knoll
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No idea I'm afraid

fringe moon
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I'm amazed noone has made an "add-on" for that yet

spice forge
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i am able to get a ocntainer running

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but i do not see the ap wifi network created that i should connect to with my phone

rustic stream
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I'm struggling to find any examples I can follow

neon flicker
rustic stream
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thanks, will do

brazen turret
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does anyone know of an iOS app that will integrate my car's bluetooth OBD2 scanner with HA? I was hoping to use Torque, but it's Android only

elfin abyss
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what do people like for plant sensors?

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lilygo ttgo higrow (love that name) looks good but doesn't look like it's easy to get it to run on batteries

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the xiaomi one looks good too but it runs on ble (gross)

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oh looks like you can get a kit that has a case and a battery for the higrow?

twilit quartz
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Which country you're in: USA
**What your budget is: **Reasonable priced
What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave) WiFi or Zigbee is ok
Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc) Not interested in dimming feature, power monitoring is a plus but not needed, must work with Tasmota

Looking for a smart switch

fringe moon
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@elfin abyss I run my greenhouse off solar and mains, with a ESP32 running 6 soil sensors

heavy oracle
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@winged knoll So, is there anything specifically special about the "CSR" version of the BT dongle, verses a BT dongle that doesn't mention "CSR" ?

winged knoll
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I think it's the chipset - I did some digging many years ago (when I bought the CSR 3.0 dongle) and found that those ones were well supported by pretty much every OS

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For others, you need to check that it works in Linux

heavy oracle
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thanks

limber helm
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Not actively looking yet but for the UK I understand that getting smart light switches is a pain unless you have a negative wire? Does that mean total rewire or being limited to only smart light bulbs rather than the switch itself?

winged knoll
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You can fit smart switch or dimmer modules by the bulb to get the neutral

limber helm
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And as there is SOOOO many devices and protocols, is it just a case of looking at what people rate rather than having a go-to protocol? I understand wifi based devices use more power but as long as wifi coverage more straight forward? Aka no hub etc

winged knoll
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Zigbee or Z-Wave

limber helm
winged knoll
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Many smart dimmers can operate without neutral FYI

limber helm
winged knoll
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Yes 😛

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I have both - Zigbee is cheap, but Z-Wave has generally "better" devices

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I can find any Zigbee devices to match my Z-Wave multi-sensors, or my door sensors

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On the other hand, the Z-Wave devices are £35+, and the Zigbee ones are about £10 (or less)

limber helm
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Oh right nice. I've got some wifi plugs coming off amazon to do the whole tasmota thing today.

winged knoll
limber helm
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In future i'll keep an eye out for the z-wave/zigbee stuff. It's easy to get overwhelmed so I'll have to focus on one thing at a time 😄

fringe moon
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oh wow @limber helm

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that logo I haven't seen in a long time

winged knoll
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Oh, and ... right now Lidl 😉

fringe moon
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I can't even remember what it was

winged knoll
fringe moon
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Oh it's mozilla 🤣

limber helm
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:d

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😄

fringe moon
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I knew it was from days of yore

limber helm
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Had to have it

limber helm
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I'm bad at waking up

winged knoll
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Don't buy the hub, just the devices

fringe moon
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I wish we had Lidl

winged knoll
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The bulbs don't dim brilliantly apparently, but ... the plugs make good Zigbee routers 😄

limber helm
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Ah cool. Yes they mesh don't they

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So need's a hub = if you aren't home brew automators .

winged knoll
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Yup

limber helm
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I'll check the reviews but certainly try to get some plugs

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Guessing I just need a zigbee usb dongle or such?

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I'll be migrating from my hyper-v to an intel nuc at some point

winged knoll
fringe moon
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hopefully sooner than later since hyper-v doesn't do usb passthrough

winged knoll
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(but use Zigbee2MQTT 😉 )

limber helm
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Yeh I'll need to run my nuc as a dedicated HASS box I think

fringe moon
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or a dedicated virtualization box

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docker+kvm will be good

limber helm
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Hyper-v is my comfort zone.

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But

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Yeh gonna need to go a diff way

fringe moon
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hyper-v isn't comfortable at all though 🤣

limber helm
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Well..No 😛

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That's enough for me - Lidl shop planned (we don't have a local one), zigbee stuff and see if my first automation triggers

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Thanks

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Oh and zigbee devices and migration of host 😄

fleet lichen
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I'm looking to replace my Yeelights with lights that do not phone home or require an internet connection to work, any suggestions?

fringe moon
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my yeelights are all local

zealous dune
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a perfect one: yeelights with blocked outside access

fringe moon
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just block it in the firewall and enable local control

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Also, I approve of your name and avatar

rancid abyss
winged knoll
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Depends on your install method, what hoops you'll need to jump through

rancid abyss
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I have installed the Appdaemon 4 to execute some Python scripts. So I will import the pimoroni library.

winged knoll
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AppDaemon however isn't HA 😉

rancid abyss
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the install method is default: Raspberry Pi 4 Model B (1 GB, 2 GB, 4 GB and 8 GB model) 64-bit

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This App daemon is a add-on of HA.

rancid abyss
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I want to install: pip3 install RPi.GPIO however I see the error message "unable to execute 'gcc': No such file or directory". Can I install gcc using apt-get command?

winged knoll
drifting grove
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hi can someone reccomend a POE linux tablet for wall mounting

fringe moon
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I would say an android tablet

drifting grove
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i know need linux:)

neon flicker
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Does anyone have a recommendation for affordable smart plugs with energy monitoring (120V US)? And, the same for a 230V dryer plug

rain burrow
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A temp sensor that’s advertised as plus/minus 4C is pretty horrible, right?

rain burrow
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Nvm checked other sensors and yeah 4C is a horrible tolerance.

compact badge
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@limber helm Re: Recommendations: I recently did a complete Zigbee setup at home using the IKEA setup. Although I eventually replaced the hub with https://www.phoscon.de/en/conbee2

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No complaints. Though I really don't see the point of their new "shortcut buttons" or whatever they call them. I just went for a mountain of dimmer switches and a single "remote control" type switch for media control.

mild talon
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anyone know if the E27 zigbee bulbs from Lidl can be controlled with ZHA?

winged knoll
mild talon
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ohh bugger - sorry - thought I was in there lol

civic atlas
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what's the best zwave/zigbee stick that i can buy to plug into RPI?

winged knoll
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For Z-Wave it's easier though - buy the cheapest stick for your region

terse ice
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I was recommended to ask in here, does anyone know of a project to root the 360 line of vacuums, like the 360 s9?

winged grail
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Anyone already compared the lidl rgb gu10 to the gledopto gu10 rgb+cct? Which is brighter? Are the lidl versions only rgbw and 250 lumen? In the picture they seem to be quite tall also?

winged knoll
winged grail
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How about the brightness?

winged knoll
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Nobody has commented on that

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(not that I saw)

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However, there's likely a whole host of reviews out there

winged grail
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I tried to find some but not much (found) about gu10

winged knoll
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Based on the feedback I've seen on everything else, I'd not expect Hue levels of behaviour out of them

winged grail
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They will be on the markets here not until next Monday

winged knoll
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I just bought a couple of the sockets (they're impressively bulky) and a couple of the strips (not yet installed)

winged grail
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Are the sockets too big for two to put on double wall sockets side by side?

winged knoll
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The UK ones look like they're fine for that, but compared to the Salus SP600 it's "massive"

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Still smaller than the Hive one by far

winged grail
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Hope the same goes with EU ones

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Mainly using tradfri now for zigbee ones and they have no button and even though two can be installed side by side they take twice the space

winged knoll
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Yeah, having a button is key for me

cosmic sequoia
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Also, sonoff mini devices are rated at 10A, but will they work on a 15A circuit?

zealous dune
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Relay is 16A but traces might not be. And when dealing with chinese specs divide by 2

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All you have to ask yourself is how unhappy would you be if your house burned down

drifting grove
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Can anyone recommend an energy monitoring plug that works with HA directly. Dont mind flashing itetc.
I though Sonoff did one, but appears only the POW model which doesnt have a socket - you have to wire in inline.
UK Spec, WiFi and MQTT

Buddy of miine has some techkin and Gosund ones, but there is questions on whether or not the newer batches can be flashed.

zealous dune
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Probably cannot be flashed

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Ener-J plugs might still be flashable

drifting grove
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I will look them up - thanks

zealous dune
drifting grove
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thank you

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Hopefully I can trawl through and find something!

cerulean jasper
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I'm not seeing the HS110 TP-LINK smart plug available at the moment. What other smart plugs with current monitoring are available out there?

drifting grove
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Ive just been though the list above, there are a few but most seem to have the latest tuya firmware.

spice forge
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I have a aqara vibration sensor
I only seem to get drop and tilt events. What can I do for vibration?
I am using ZHA
Is there a way to mess with the sensitivity

spice forge
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hould i be seeing the state somewhere else besides the zha_events?

normal orchid
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Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I have door sensors with multiple switches on them (at least one physical switch, and one magnetic/reed switch). One of them is right next to my (traditional, old, boring) doorbell...wondering if i desolder one of the switches if I can use that switch to detect when the doorbell is pushed? Anyone have any idea if that's possible? I'm also not sure if putting such a thing in parallel with an existing doorbell (which is like 12v ac or something?) is...a reasonable thing to do either.

Suggestions?

neon flicker
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Wrong place, but I suggested NodeRed in the other place you asked

normal orchid
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er, this was more of a physical device question (reuse a switch on a sensor for a possibly weird usecase) --i asked two separate questions 🙂

neon flicker
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lol, didn't even read, just looked the same

drifting grove
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hi

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anyone know about the Fibaro tablet

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if it runs android?

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or is this just an input device for gesture control

winged knoll
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It's not a tablet...

drifting grove
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i gathered thanks

past forge
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Hi, I've got zigbee dongle, after I've installed all switches I wanted, can I unplug it from my RPi?

fringe moon
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No

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Well, you can, but nothing will work

winged knoll
astral lantern
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I have been adding some Mi Flora plant monitors into my environment and I am wondering if there is a a bluetooth le gateway to help extend the range of the devices. I am fairly new to this and was curious what is the best device for something like this?

fringe moon
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Esp32

astral lantern
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can you expand on that a little?

fringe moon
tacit plinth
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Trying to tuya convert a Atomi Smart Outdoor Plug -- starts broadcasting it's own SSID when plugged in, press and hold on sole power button doesn't seem to be changing that behavior so far -- any other ideas?

astral lantern
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are there any good youtube videos or other docs on helping setting these up?

fringe moon
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Well that is the official docs

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But googling esphome will give you a lot of hits

astral lantern
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oh ya I know...I am fairly new to the esp stuff and want to be treated like I am an idiot about this stuff...Just looking for some basic walkthroughs to help me get better is all

fringe moon
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I just read docs, because videos get outdated really fast

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Sometimes I might resort to a blog post

astral lantern
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do you have any good blog posts?

fringe moon
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Google certainly does

zealous dune
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@tacit plinth does that plug work with Tuya app?

blazing laurel
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I have a gledopto led controller is there a way to re configure colours .

White is very green so would be nice to make white be 255,240,255

winged knoll
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Depends on how it's integrated

tacit plinth
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device has a single button (power) -- short press toggles the relay, long press eventually starts LED blinking blue -- but then device is broadcasting it's own SSID

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Connect to the SSSID, you get 192.168.175.2, device is 192.168.175.1 -- no open ports visiable -- device mDNS name is _gateway

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Popped it open -- it is a TYWE2S -- also says M1828Y-01 on the PCB

tacit plinth
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Opened it up and got it flashed

zealous dune
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This is the way

tacit plinth
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started trying to figure the GPIO pins -- no relay click

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realized I was still on 3v power 😆

misty wraith
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Has anyone successfully listened to a 2GIG DW11 sensor with a RTL-SDR and linked it to HA?

tacit plinth
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You want any more info on this device BA? Just about got the template made

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Should I do anything with the extra "wifi" led? Right now I have the relay configured, linked to the power LED and the single on board button

zealous dune
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Wifi led is LedLink

tacit plinth
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just found that thanks

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though it's toggling wifi led now on power state

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I have

GPIO4 LED_i 1
GPIO5 LEDLink_i
GPIO12 Relay 1
GPIO Button_n 1
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GPIO4 should be wifi led, GPIO5 is power state LED

cerulean jasper
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so, there's no smart plug with energy monitoring where one doesn't have to bother with firmware flashing etc? Nothing that works out of the box with HA?

winged knoll
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Zigbee or Z-Wave ones will

cerulean jasper
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ah, ok, why are people not using them then and go through all that hacking? Price?

winged knoll
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🤷

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I think some people think WiFi is somehow magic or better than Zigbee or Z-Wave

zealous dune
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its the price and the mention of a "hub" or "gateway"

soft lake
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Actually looking at the Mi Flora integration it suggests that look for a flower mate or flower care device and the device/Amazon seems to suggest flowe care app,... so I’ll give it a go and see

tacit plinth
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aight, this LedLink, Led not clicking for me at all

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have GPIO4 as Led, GPIO5 as LedLink -- want GPIO4 to be PowerLED, on when relay is on --- want GPIO5 to be Link led, on when wifi is linked

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GPIO4 works fine, can't get GPIO5 to light up

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LedState 7 works for showing power state and MQTT traffic on GPIO5....

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ehh, it is blinking GPIO5 on MQTT/WIFI probs -- we'll just go for that for now

zealous dune
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@soft lake it'll just work in what combination?

icy rapids
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Good evening.

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Is it normal that a Shelly 2.5 runs at 55° Celsius on standby ?

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seems a bit high

limber helm
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My Samsung washing machine needs a button press to turn it on and a separate button to run the program...urgh that’s two switchbots unless there is a cheaper or different way to do it

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Caught the bug

zealous dune
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open machine and wire in an esp8266 with relays if needed

icy rapids
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blackadder?

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the real one ?

zealous dune
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no, that's Rowan Atkinson

icy rapids
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oh

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isnt that the boss of nikelodeon and actor of mr bean ?

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like Rowan Atkinson Inc.

zealous dune
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i know it is the latter

icy rapids
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Anyway i like ur site it was helpful

zealous dune
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the first one... don't think so

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that was the main idea behind it 🙂

icy rapids
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My Main light in my room was Tasmotized today

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shelly 2.5

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its the first serious and permanent solution i finished

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Oh i get it now

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Blackadder was a character also played by atkinson

zealous dune
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bingo

icy rapids
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i intend to live as a goat

vast cliff
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Is there a way to see what is turning off my lights when I turn them on? It happens instantly and the history just says "Turned off". I believe I have disabled all of the automations/integrations that could be doing it, and it's just one group of multiple groups of lights that's doing this

gloomy spoke
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You could turn on debug in the logs

vast cliff
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Ok thanks

gloomy spoke
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You could probably write a template to iterate through automations and scripts and list the ones with a recent last_triggered or similar timestamp

earnest sapphire
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anyone have an idea why i cant seem to use GPIO 0 on a wemos D1 Mini as a binary sensor input in ESP Home?? (im aware of the issues with reboots) ... GPIO 2 works fine when i pull it to ground

limber helm
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I’ve got some WiFi plugs off Amazon. Now I know better do I send them back and get zigbee or keep them and try to convert them to local

limber helm
kindred vale
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morning guys, im not yet familiar with the zigbee protocol, planning to buy the conbee II stick , but will it also pickup the 433mhz signal from my doorbell ?

winged knoll
kindred vale
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with this conbee 2(for HA) , would i have to watch which lights/etc i buy or is it compatible with all zigbee3 products ?

drifting grove
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Hi I have a problem with uploading firmware to EPS8266 according to your instructions, can you please help me? I am a beginner.

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I did according to the instructions

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and that is the result

fringe moon
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Use esphome flasher

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What esp device is it btw?

eternal ridge
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I have a fibaro dimmer 2 where I changed the type of load, and it needs to be calibrated. I can't get it to work using the button, and I don't want to disconnect the dimmer. I have a vague recollection of doing this previously, either using HASS, or possibly some CLI command...? According to google, I need to set "parameter 13" to "1", but I need help finding the right place to do that...

lusty kernel
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Any way to make a 2,4GHz DSSS readable om ZigBee?

winged knoll
fringe moon
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🤔

lusty kernel
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Im asking because Im unfamiliar with DSSS, and figured I might be able to flash my way around the encryption

fringe moon
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Dsss is just the way of implementing the wireless signal and isn't limited to 2.4ghz

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So I'm not entirely sure what you think you can achieve

lusty kernel
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So isnt actually a protocol? Its the only info I have regarding signal

fringe moon
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No, it is signal modulation

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Used in CDMA and a bunch of other stuff

lusty kernel
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Which is a protocol? (CDMA)

fringe moon
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No

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But 802.11 uses CDMA

lusty kernel
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OK. Thank you so much.

fringe moon
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You are at layer0

lusty kernel
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🤷‍♂️

fringe moon
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Do you know the OSI model?

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You are before that, at the definition of how a signal is transmitted

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That is what DSSS defines

lusty kernel
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2,4GHz and DSSS is the only info provided in the device manual

fringe moon
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WiFi 802.11 and ZigBee 802.15.4 and many other things are 802.xx which is both dsss and 2.4 GHz

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And mostly anything in the 2.4ghz spectrum is usable by anyone

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But flashing from WiFi /ZigBee / something else is usually not trivial and often not achievable

lusty kernel
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Alright, that clears it up a bit

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Any uniform way to figure out protocol?

fringe moon
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Probably totally propitary to their ecosystem

lusty kernel
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Sux. Just read that they use zigbee for some of the other stuff, but youre probably right 😒

brazen sonnet
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Hey all - wife just made me aware she wants a Phillips Hue Gradient Play Strip for the TV for Christmas...anyone know if this works with home assistant or do I need their hub?

sonic sentinel
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hi, i am new her 😅 , and ask straight away: i followed different tutorials to implement octoprint to home assistant but it does not work. Home assistant shows the entities but they are not updated at all. I tried the global api key, the user api key and a application api key, but none of them works. Octoprint and the printer is online and accessable via the web page. The log file shows the error: Endpoint: job Failed to update OctoPrint status. Error: HTTPConnectionPool(host='3dprint', port=80): Max retries exceeded with url: /api/job (Caused by NewConnectionError('<urllib3.connection.HTTPConnection object at 0x6e9638e0>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno -3] Try again')) I tried to find some answers in forums, but no luck. Does anyone may have an answer or idea? Thanks

winged knoll
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sonic sentinel
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ok sorry, thanks

twilit quartz
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I'm looking to get BME280 integrated with ESP8266 wemos mini D1 and the documentation says it's supported through tasmota-sensors. How does this work? I can't find any documentation how flashing tasmota-sensors.bin is different from tasmota.bin

fringe moon
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I would just do esphome

twilit quartz
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there got it working

runic narwhal
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Hey everyone! I'm trying to get an IKEA TRADFRI to work. It's connected to my ConbeeII (which I have connected an osram smart+ bulb without a problem) and shows up as a zigbee device as Device Type: EndDevice with Quirk zhaquirks.ikea.fivebtnremotezha.IkeaTradfriRemote. However, when I click any buttons and watch for state_changed events in the developer tools, no changes are triggered. I've reconnected it twice so far but am at a loss. I'm especially unsure if it's registered correctly - could anyone check if their remote is registered as the same device or help in any other way to debug this?

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winged knoll
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Sounds like you're in the wrong channel 😉

runic narwhal
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Thanks, Tinkerer, will do!

lapis valley
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New to this scene and I have successfully flashed my first device with Tasmota (9.1.0). There seems to be a new field in the latest firmware that I can't find details for in the docs and the many videos I have watched on this topic. Could someone tell me the difference between the 'Device Name' and 'Friendly Name' fields? This is found in the Configuration -> Configure Other menu. I beleive the Device Name is what HA will pick up on. What is the Friendly Name for?

winged knoll
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I'm assuming you've already asked over in the Tasmota Discord though?

lapis valley
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I just found the Tasmota Discord. Posting there now too. Thanks!

kindred vale
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I'm tired of tuya(wifi) , planning on buying zigbee devices, aqara seems a safe bet for home assistant, what would be your advice use the aqara(or maybe even another brand) hub or conbee 2 ? Aliexpress doesnt say the aqara hub is google assistant compatible ? conbee 2 devices adressable on google home ?

winged knoll
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Just like I directed you to earlier today 😉

subtle flame
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Hi Guys, I would like to get some help with NodeMCU + PIR device. I did everything like in this guides. I connected everything properly, created the ESPHome file, downloaded binary, flashed the device with it. Its working and I was able to add it to HA. The only problem is the sensor is detecting motion every second without end.

winged knoll
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Sounds like you need to troubleshoot that on the hardware/ESPhome end first

bright jacinthBOT
winged knoll
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☝️ they have their own Discord

subtle flame
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Ohhh I didnt know that. Thanks Tinkerer, I'll join there.

crude creek
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What is a "1-10 dimmer"? Im trying to find a led t8 60cm bulb that can dim.

orchid gazelle
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I have a Roborock S55 with Valetudo RE. Any ideas on how to remove and add no-go zones from HA? It would be nice to have some toggles to remove/add some restrictions from the map!

raven heart
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Anybody have suggestions for a dimmable outdoor smart plug?

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This is for x-mas lights

raven heart
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You know actually, I already have on/off outdoor Z-wave plugs, I'm just gonna put a dumb outdoor dimmer after that and before the x-mas lights.

foggy pecan
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Hmm, never had a need to dim Christmas lights

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Though some of the white ones I picked up are eye searing

fringe moon
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Dimming the outdoor lights won't always work

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Because they use a converter from AC to DC that has a tolerance level

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So you need to dim on the DC side mostly

upper yoke
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And it also doesn't support the newer RM Mini 3 versions with the ESP like chip inside (which I have), it simply won't recognize it as a legit device.
is this a thing where the broadlink mini 3 is no longer supported in broadlink manager? i can't seem to get my raw codes from the broadlink using any method described on the HA broadlink page.

static beacon
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Is anyone using a mi/honeywell smoke detector and can some one confirm it works with HASS? And if yes can it also be used backward so that I can put on the alarm when a door opens for example?

next pendant
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About a year ago I installed ha in a vm and it automatically picked up my aqara gateway in home kit mode and saw all sensors. Now I have a fresh install of ha and I can't get my aqara gateway devices into ha. Has something changed since a while ago? How do I add it?

winged knoll
fringe moon
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@static beacon I have one on order

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Waiting for it still

next pendant
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Another thing then. I have a mix of aqara, ikea tradfri and other zigbee devices. Does an aqara smart plug also extend range for other mfg devices? Or just aqara?

fringe moon
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If you use it in the same mesh as the others

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Yes

static beacon
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atxbyea will you share your experience when you receive it?

supple folio
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I hope this is the right channel, I am looking to do some research about how to connect an speaker to my rpi.
Currently I do it through the audio output. Now I want to put my setup somewhere more hidden, since it becomes quiet complex with external hubs, external ssd etc etc and so the audio ouput won't be able to connect to the boxes anymore.

So I was looking at sonoss speakers, but not sure if they can be used as a HA audio output, or if there is some other sound system, or way to accomplish what i do.
A bluetooth receiver I readed back feedback over, so doesnt seem me one either

winged knoll
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You can use Sonos to play any MP3 you host locally, for TTS, and more

fringe moon
supple folio
winged knoll
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Well, no, I didn't say that 😉

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If you want to play through the audio jack that's a whole 'nother bag of crazy

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But, why would you?

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The problem occurs when people get stuck on what they believe is the solution and are unable to step back and explain the issue in full.

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fringe moon
supple folio
# winged knoll But, why would you?

Naah, doesn't need to play through the audio jack, just needs to be my hassos default audio device. So that all sounds is sended to the speakers

winged knoll
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There is no default audio device concept

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You tell Home Assistant where to play

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Using the media player integration, or similar

supple folio
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MMm really? Because for the audio jack I didnt set anything up at all

winged knoll
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Well, how are you playing sounds through it?

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Or do you only have one media_player entity?

supple folio
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I got only a spotify media_player entity.
But I got 2 audio devices in hardware.
Not sure how hassos decided to use the jack instead the hdmi tho

winged knoll
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No idea, don't run it

supple folio
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MMm, I guess I lack knowledge about HA to make a good decisions.
But to make it simple HA => play any sound it needs to play on external sound system (which is undecided yet) so doesnt need to be sonoss.
Bluetooh receiver wouldnt do the job due to sound quality I readed

winged knoll
formal oak
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Probably a dumb question but im new to this whole thing.
If i were to buy one of those automatic window blinds things and i would want to pair it to the homeassistant to control it from my phone and computer, how would i know if it would be "compatible" with homeassistant?

supple folio
fringe moon
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@formal oak by checking the HA integration list

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That'll mostly tell you

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Depending on what technology it uses

formal oak
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yea, sorry for such a dumb question. ive never touched any form of smarthome device before and im just getting started lol

fringe moon
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Stuff like zigbee will have different support levels depending on how you integrate it

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Zigbee2mqtt will usually have more options that many native integrations

winged knoll
spice forge
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Is this the appropriate place to ask about led strips and fuses?

proven lotus
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So I've been working on it for 3 days now, I figured it's time to ask. Does anyone know about Leviton Bluetooth Switches and getting them added? I found this https://github.com/mjg59/python-decora and i've tried to get it to work and installed blupy. I can't even get it to work with regular linux. Any help would be appreciated.

spice forge
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Got my led stripped working and lvoe them just trying to figure out if for 5v if I need fuses.

undone haven
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Nothing “needs” a fuse. You use fuses to protect the device as well as the circuit it is connected to.

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@proven lotus , not really sure what you are trying to do but do you know Python?

spice forge
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@undone haven i just want to make sure i can sleep and my tree wont catch fire

undone haven
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🤷🏼‍♂️

proven lotus
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I'd never be confident enough to say I know it, surely someone knows it more, but I did study on all the errors it was throwing, and i set up the file structure etc and bluepy installed correctly it's the python-decora that has an issue.

undone haven
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Did you wire the LEDs yourself?

spice forge
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@undone haven yes

proven lotus
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but i don't feel like it should be that complicated. I already have the Bluetooth Mac Adress of the switch I jsut can't get an API key for some reason

undone haven
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Well, how confident are you with your wiring?

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Any smoke? 🤣

spice forge
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@undone haven turned on with no issues! and wled changed lights no issues either!

undone haven
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@proven lotus , I was only asking because a lot of new people come here and think something like that will work out of the box without any knowledge. I do not know Python so I can be of no assistance.

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@spice forge , I obviously can’t tell you if it will or won’t burn your house down but putting a fuse on it is probably the safe direction to go.

proven lotus
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Oh no, I knew what I was getting into when I started this. I've set up so many things that aren't made for home assistant so I get it, but I am just completely stumped by this.

spice forge
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@proven lotus for those switches I ended up using alexa and input bools

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aka the lazy way.

proven lotus
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@spice forge Are you sure they were the bluetooth only ones?

spice forge
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@proven lotus sorry missed that part. Did it for my fan speed switch.Please ignore

proven lotus
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wait wait, i think the fan speed switch is only bluetooth

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as well

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maybe not though idk.

spice forge
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I can get it on alexa so that doesnt track

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@undone haven i have a 5v 15 amp power supply so I am going to put a 15A fuse on it....sounds like i am no crazy woot woot

snow mantle
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guess I just bought a home assistant blue device

snow mantle
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going to be a great excuse to start everything from scratch using all the new functionality

fringe moon
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Start from scratch? Sounds horrible

keen crow
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hi

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anyone knows the phoneapp "LampUX"? wife is about to buy a nightlamp that can be connected to that app (and google home + alexa) and i am trying to find out if it's tuya convertible

zealous dune
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it used to be

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nowadays there are not guarantees it'll work

keen crow
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ah. ok thx
damn those manufacturers how DARE they update their firmware and use different chips 😄

livid aurora
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whats everyones perspective on the xiaomi zigbee devices, are they good? (or good value?)

zealous dune
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yes

livid aurora
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i've heard they are not 100% compliant to zigbee standard

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so temp sensors, door sensors etc.. are working well for people?

zealous dune
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if you're worried about standards get sonoff sensors instead

livid aurora
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ok would you say they're better to run with in the long run?

fringe moon
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I run mostly xiaomi

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I have no issues

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with zigbee2mqtt

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and tradfri bulbs all around the house

zealous dune
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but people say stuff...

fringe moon
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OH SHIT

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people

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😦

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might be the same people who buy unifi I guess 🤣

zealous dune
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we don't know if sonoff is better in the long run since they're new... they got bigger batteries so there's that

livid aurora
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price is pretty much same

zealous dune
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i run xiaomi for years and no problemos (z2m)

fringe moon
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So far my xiaomis have lasted 2 years ish, I've replaced the battery in the one in my greenhouse and in the most frequented door

zealous dune
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some people get very excited at a proposition of a bigger battery

fringe moon
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oh shit, I only have to replace every 4 years instead of 3

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my life is so much better

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😄

zealous dune
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aside the fact the bigger batteries are harder to find 😛

fringe moon
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is it the 2450 batteries ?

zealous dune
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yes in some devices

fringe moon
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🤢

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haven't found those reasonably priced anywhere

next pendant
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I'm trying to find a smart plug that will also work as a extender for my zigbee mesh. Any specific brand I should be looking for? There's so many available and description doesn't always state if it works as an extender

fringe moon
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tradfri works fine @next pendant

zealous dune
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they usually always do

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lidl has some now

fringe moon
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I think the only bad ones are the osram ones

civic kraken
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The Lidl ones are zigbee? I was going to ask but forgot

zealous dune
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blitzwolf shp-13 works too

next pendant
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cool I'll look into blitzwolf. Ikea are a little bit bulky

wintry thicket
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Have anyone tried the odroid N2+ compared to the rpi4 in terms of speed?
is it worth it to buy the HA_Blue?

fringe moon
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I would never

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run on either

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😉

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and considering the blue appears to be $230 here that is even less likely, I could buy a lot more power for that price

wintry thicket
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Yeah, im a bit "ooofffff" about the pricetag (It's $343 in Denmark)

fringe moon
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exactly

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it is $230 in sweden I saw

zealous dune
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damn

wintry thicket
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but what would you suggest

fringe moon
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great price tag for all those 15yo living home trying to automate their mothers house

wintry thicket
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I have an old NUC I dont use, but last I tried (a few month ago) it wasn't very stable for Home Assistant

fringe moon
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I run HA in venv or container, on regular servers that I already run

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There should be no issue running HA on any NUC tbh

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HAOS I will not mention though

wintry thicket
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well, I am not sure if the NUC is about to die, but it stays running for only a few days, then crash

fringe moon
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with HAOS or with any operating system ?

wintry thicket
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HAOS.
I ran CoreOS before, and started having issues aswell

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thought it was because CoreOS was getting depricated

fringe moon
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I would install debian, let it run and see what happens

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but could very well be hardware issues

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you could run a memtest on it

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that'll stress it some

wintry thicket
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I have an Supermicro 8 core Atom running (only using 4 cores) maybe I could try and run home assistant from that one

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Servers are too expensive here, if not in hardware, then in power consumption 😄

fringe moon
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eh, I don't like atom

zealous dune
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a Jxxxx celeron will run your HA and plenty more

wintry thicket
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it depends on your needs I guess.
I have 2 of them, 1 runs my firewall (pfsense) the other some lightweight stuff for unifi, database etc

fringe moon
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aye, I run my firewall on a J1900

wintry thicket
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problem is an even small 8 core Xeon costs around $1500 and then add power consumption

zealous dune
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that's a bit overkill 😄

fringe moon
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my docker host is a J4105

zealous dune
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mine is J3455 - 40W consumption with 4 hdd's

fringe moon
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my primary rig is 2xX5660

wintry thicket
zealous dune
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small-ish case, self built, HDD trays were improvised 😄

fringe moon
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yeah,my J4105 is in a mini atx chassis with 4 bays

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12GB RAM goes a long way for containers

zealous dune
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which reminds me i need a memory upgrade on mine 😄

wintry thicket
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price diff from a celeron to i5 is so small, that I dont see the point in going celeron :(
At the same time, it's so expensive that I need a good reason to go that route over my Rpi

fringe moon
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I run a single pi

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but I hate it

wintry thicket
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why?

fringe moon
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It's a fickle device, with a lot of shortcomings

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I have been hosting my own servers for over 20 years, I have kinda standards, and I work in enterprise

wintry thicket
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For me the Pi is ok powerfull.
I run machine learning on 1 of them, for person recognition in my backyard.
and then Home Assistant.
My biggest complain is when restarting home assistant, that it's a bit slow.
I do also notice some lag for the automations, but not sure if this is because of zwave, zigbee or the pi

fringe moon
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the power subsystem is unreliable, the storage subsystem is less than optimal and the networking is sub par (up to and including the 3b+) atleast

wintry thicket
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I would prefer to run this on a real server,
but serveres are expensive here, and we pay around $0.5 per kWh

zealous dune
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rpi is ok powerful... i notice some lags 🤔

fringe moon
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we paid $0.003 up until a few weeks ago, it has spiked a bit at $0.03 currently but will probably go down again soon

silent ingot
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i like pi in general but am prepared to criticize it heavily, especially on the hardware bottlenecks that are not strictly due to the broadcomm SoC

wintry thicket
silent ingot
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pi4 fixes a lot of my crits but requires active cooling which makes me sad

wintry thicket
silent ingot
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i think i'm gonna be looking harder at nVidia's Jetson or maybe a risc-v system but i have not really looked at that at all yet

fringe moon
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I would like to see a proper risc-v system

silent ingot
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i want a whole system, not a dev board trying to compete with rpi on cost

fringe moon
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exactly

wintry thicket
# silent ingot i want a whole system, not a dev board trying to compete with rpi on cost

And that gets me back to what? :D
im trying to find something like the pi.
So low power consumption, powerful, reliable, good support etc.

I Like the Pi as I can install it in headless mode.

buying a motherboard or NUC, removes this option, and I dont have a screen in the server room(its the room we have water heater, washer and dryer (not sure of the english word for this)

fringe moon
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this is what we have ipmi or bmc for

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like iLO \ drac

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with iLO I can display boot and console via text which is handy

wintry thicket
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yeah, I have ipmi on my Atom servers

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but I don't think you will find ipmi on celeron motherhboards, atleast not easy at least

silent ingot
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(dryer is the common English word)

fringe moon
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yeah, I seldom deal with anything below 1U enterprise

wintry thicket
silent ingot
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@fringe moon same, but i just moved into space big enough to justify a deluxe HA setup and segregated IoT network

wintry thicket
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Google Translate says utility room

fringe moon
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hehe, I'm not paranoid enough to segragate the networks, I do have a IOT network for playing around with though

silent ingot
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oh, that depends on how well you live 🙂 it's a laundry room if you have the space.

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my recent Google Fiber install left me with their wifi that is very opinionated. It isolates every wifi client unless they open a port with UPnP. it's horrible.

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my HA still can't see my thermostat

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(older Nest)

fringe moon
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eh, I do my own network stuff,none of that google stuff thank you 😉

silent ingot
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so i want to run a regular LAN with regular policy

wintry thicket
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I run Unifi wifi and pfsense firewall.
for switches I run edgeswitches (Wasn't too keen of the unifi switches)

fringe moon
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unifi 🤢

silent ingot
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i did that for years, ipmasq, iptables, ... now i need a mesh network to cover my whole house, and Google Wifi pucks are amazing for that

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but their network policy makes me angry. so i can either run a segregated IoT LAN or replace the whole thing with Ubiquiti

fringe moon
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I looked at the google wifi pucks

silent ingot
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border security has changed a lot in 20 years

fringe moon
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but they didn't do meshing if bridged

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which was a no from me

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so I opted for linksys

silent ingot
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i've absolutely shredded multiple google support people about this and they will not talk to me about it anymore

fringe moon
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linksys does mesh and bridge at the same time

wintry thicket
fringe moon
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It fulfills all my needs, hasn't been down for almost 2 years and covers my whole house (3 APs over 252m2 and three floors with only a single one wired)

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I would do anything (almost) over unifi

undone moon
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Where I can ask about odroid n2+ performance?

fringe moon
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google

winged knoll
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When it's not broken

undone moon
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No I want comparison between blue vs nas with docker ha instance

wintry thicket
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for me that sounds like you just dislike unifi, but for no apparent reason.
i've been running unifi and edgeswitches for years, and have 0 issues.
We did just deploy around 50 Aruba switches at work, and I created a management platform for it, and they are not much more expensive that unifi, so could be something I would use at home aswell, but for now, unifi is perfect for me

winged knoll
fringe moon
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it will be rubbish compared to anything x86 @undone moon

undone moon
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Because Im in the middle of transition to qnap nas, and Idk if its worth it to buy additional odroid?

wintry thicket
fringe moon
undone moon
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I am here in minimalist approach..if I can pack whole thing into one box thats qnap nas for example it would be great

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Just curious how much is faster odroid 🙂

fringe moon
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any decently specced NAS will beat it

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by a landslide

zealous dune
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which odroid?

undone moon
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So definately worth buying odroid..and there is also usb port forwarding on the nas machine etc

wintry thicket
undone moon
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Im taking about blue odeoid from the conference

silent ingot
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oh yeah, odroid is also on my list for trying to beat rpi but my first odroid arrived a lemon and i didn't re-engage

fringe moon
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you are in the 1% of users then @wintry thicket

silent ingot
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why do you need to be a network engineer to run unifi?

zealous dune
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no idea which odroid is in the blue

wintry thicket
undone moon
wintry thicket
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odroid n2+

zealous dune
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meh

fringe moon
zealous dune
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h2+ or nothing

wintry thicket
zealous dune
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its like mikrotik but worse 😄

fringe moon
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but all their users belive it is for their pRoSumEr needs 😉

wintry thicket
# fringe moon but all their users belive it is for their pRoSumEr needs 😉

again.. not really unifi's fault..
you see the same problem with docker..
Lots of users just copy-paste what someone on reddit tells them to do, without understanding what it does.

like running a docker container on a NAS server, with no way to seperate that container from the same network as the nas server, or even sharing the volume where all the familiy photos are..

or even worse, the huge amount of users that port forwards non-encrypted to their NAS, with admin:admin..
you could blame Synology/Qnap.. but really...

quasi vault
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haha, I just recommended unifi equipment for my brothers new house

fringe moon
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I blame users mostly, but it is just confirmed to me that 99% of unifi users shouldn't do anything related to networking 😛

silent ingot
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ok, i guess i'm in the power user category then. i might just run separate LANs but VLAN appeals too.

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the first thing is, i think i can do better than LIFX with wired PoE or mains connected LED lights

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but definitely wired enet

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LIFX has proven too consumery

fringe moon
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VLANs are great if you know what you are doing

silent ingot
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read: janktown

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i am fishing for a device recommendation, though. all i know is i hate LIFX.

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correction. I love the features of LIFX, but the quality is not good enough.