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tender tulip
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im having some io delay issues in fact

golden thorn
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I wouldn't recommend it without a SSD with PLP. ZVOLs are brutal. It's more about the memory usage of the ARC in this case. Check arcstat and arc_summary -s arc.

tender tulip
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i have no idea what you just said

wheat cave
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Only HA-adjacent, but figured folks here might know - what's the correct way in Proxmox to prevent an LXC's USB device from changing every boot? I see in Datacenter I can map USB devices by vendor ID - which should work... BUT, I only find details on how to then use that for VMs, and not LXCs 😕
Under the LXCs Resources I can map a USB device, but, as far as I can tell, there I must use the /dev/bus/usb/X path that keeps changing, and don't see a way to map the named resource...

glacial oracle
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the reasonable thing would be to not use lxcs at all

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generally you can configure any passthrough you want on those through the config file

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you also see existing mappings there to check what they do

drifting grove
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Looking for recommendations for wall switches (as in, replacing existing 'dumb' switches, in the wall. Not just a relay, not a 'scene changer' or similar)

I'm in the US, would prefer zigbee if at all possible. Budget is around $30/switch, but there's a lot of switches to replace, so if there's a cheaper option that's preferred.

I do need dimmers on some circuits, but not on others. If there's some product line that has both dimmable and non-dimmable switches that look reasonable cohesive together, that would be great, otherwise I can always just... not use the dimmer.

I appreciate any recommendations!

buoyant blade
# drifting grove Looking for recommendations for wall switches (as in, replacing existing 'dumb' ...

I went with Jasco, also sold as GE or Enbrighten. They are around $40 though, but the add on switches are less. I did buy some that were in not for resale packaging from eBay a couple years ago, that were more around the $20 price point. I think they are one of the few devices I have that have never fallen off the network. https://www.amazon.com/Enbrighten-QuickFit-SimpleWire-Directly-43080/dp/B08428GDS8/ They do require a neutral and on the three way and four-way installations, you have to ensure that the traveler doesn't accidently hit 120v or you will fry the switch, but they work very well.

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Has anyone experimented with the aliexpress ultrasonic flow meters? Would like to monitor water usage and that would be a very easy install assuming they actually work.

glacial oracle
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considering they cost 2-500 bucks you can simply install a proper meter instead

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or an addon to your existing one, like the homewizard one

buoyant blade
# glacial oracle or an addon to your existing one, like the homewizard one

In the US, meter is at the street, 75 yards or so from the house and not all that protected, so not all that easy to read the pickup on, I've used legit ultrasonic flow meters with success industrially, so the 50-75 dollar AliExpress option is suspect of course, but it would be a much easier install.

glacial oracle
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i highly would suspect the cheaper ali solutions to have some reduced accuracy / pipe compatibility

buoyant blade
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Yeah, likely will just break the line and install a more robust option, but everyonce in awhile you can get away with aliexpress stuff

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Plus would be a good opportunity to install a powered shutoff valve

glacial oracle
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its fairly non dangerous at least, a gamble you may want to afford if they offer some cloud/tuya free connectivity

buoyant blade
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Looked like modbus, which is easy to work with

glacial oracle
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thats nice

buoyant blade
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I'm down to just the nest thermostat that's cloud based, so trying to avoid adding any more, modbus I can work with

abstract epoch
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I have a problem for a few days that my homeassistant OS on a raspi4 is restarting nearly every 5-10 minutes. (I only have a short time to figure out each time what the problem could be until it restarts again)
I already disabled possible Add-Ons and used a backup before this happened for reinstalling. There is also enough space and the internet connection should be fine.
Can anyone help?
Where should I look in the Logs to figure out the cause of the restarts?

ashen sentinel
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Is it hot?

abstract epoch
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No i already started the cooler and its not hot since a few hours

ashen sentinel
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SD card or SSD?

abstract epoch
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SD, i already ordered a new one since mine got out of space after a lot of backups and integrations (but now has 40% free space again)

winged knoll
ashen sentinel
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I'm not sure, but other than logs I would start with checking/changing that

abstract epoch
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Thanks for the help. It was the vosk addon with a setup bigger model that seems to overload the RAM when starting up

native pilot
cold moon
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Zooz email said next sale is Labor Day

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Tbh bad marketing to admit when their next sale is I think

patent river
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Trying to cause FOMO.
"Better buy it now, or you won't get another deal like this for 2 months"
Don't think, just buy!

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Sadly I suspect this works pretty well

cold moon
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it's the subway $5 footlong all over again

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im not buying a $28 switch from them or $35-40 on amazon when they are under $20 each on sale

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especially not if im buying 10 of them lol

glacial oracle
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This isn't actually bad

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You create a sense of scarcity and make it look like a better value option which drives up sales

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It's very likely priced in and the regular price just contains more profits

sudden mango
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Anyone have any experience with the SMLIGHT SLZB-06 Zigbee POE adapter? It's top rated on Amazon, is it my best choice for HA cluster so I don't need hardware on the HA server?

winged knoll
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Lots have that, and like it

tacit pilot
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Any smart TV recommendations? I'll be running Google TV on it so maybe it doesn't matter, but not sure if Google TV can control everything

winged knoll
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Roku

tacit pilot
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lol I've sworn off Roku after doing some Roku development. That company is a joke

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The integration is kinda meh too even. Like the commands you send to it seem like they can either fail without feedback or aren't synchronous. I tried to do some stuff with brightness and sending remote commands but they can run out of order

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I just don't know what I can do through the Google TV because my current TV is really old and doesn't support HDMI-CEC

cold moon
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newest apple tv supports hdr10+ and shield is just hdr10 i think

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oh you want an actual tv.. look on RTings

native pilot
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does the shield do dolby vision?

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I can never remember

cold moon
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everything possible

tacit pilot
cold moon
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it's android tv

tacit pilot
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Ah ok cool

cold moon
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i have 4 of them that i use with hdmi-cec to run scripts like turning tv on and playing a plex playlist etc

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and i added a few checks to make sure tv is on, plex entities are updated, etc

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some of them dont seem necessary until your scrip doesnt work at 6am cuz the shield was idle or some shit

tacit pilot
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How much control do you usually get through hdmi cec? Is it just like turning the tv on and volume or more advanced stuff like menu controls over maybe brightness, etc?

cold moon
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i only use it for on/off tv and use adb commands for everything else

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which can do pretty much anything

tacit pilot
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How does the shield interface with the TV though to control those things?

cold moon
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huh

native pilot
cold moon
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you use it as the hdmi input instead of the tv's built in shitty apps

tacit pilot
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Like the shield is basically just an external computer you plug into your TV right?

cold moon
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more like the tv is a dumb monitor

tacit pilot
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Right so all this is being controlled over hdmi then? So isn't that HDMI CEC?

cold moon
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hdmi cec is just the shield telling the tv to turn on

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or change volume

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otherwise the tv is just displaying the shield doing some shit

tacit pilot
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Right but that wouldn't be able to control like native TV functions like backlight brightness, no?

native pilot
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No

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you still do that on the tv itself

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with the tv remote

cold moon
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if the tv is lg it probably has an integration

tacit pilot
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lmao like using my hand? what is this caveman shit

native pilot
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How often do you change the brightness of your TV?!

cold moon
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some have like a night mode now i think

tacit pilot
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Well maybe I won't need to as much on this new TV, but there's a lot of glare from windows and then at night I don't like my eyes getting blown out

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I'd also think volume control would be something native

native pilot
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CEC just lets you control power and volume via the connected device's remote

tacit pilot
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Well even volume would be an upgrade. I have to go through roku right now to control volume and it's not reliable

native pilot
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I missed the start of this conversation, are you using the TV speakers or a soundbar or an AVR

tacit pilot
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TV speakers

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Maybe we'll get nice speakers eventually

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But yeah brightness would be nice. I'm actually able to control my monitors native brightness via display port and ddc

native pilot
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Got it. You honestly might be able to use the TV remote (with CEC) to control the shield or apple tv too if you prefer that.

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then you can change the tv settings from one place too.

native pilot
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I just never touch the TV settings once I got them dialed in.

cold moon
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depending on the shield used + remote it has IR and can be paired with the tv as well

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err not paired but uhh configured

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i use the shield remote as my only remote

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unless i need to change brightness lol

tacit pilot
cold moon
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i leave tv in my room on "calibrated dark" setting so it's less bright at night

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but sometimes during the day i might want to put some stream on the tv and it's too dim then. not sure i have any way to automate that on my old vizio tvs

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for new tvs running webOS i think the LG integration works for that

native pilot
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Can I interest you both in a foolproof solution?

cold moon
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but i cannot confirm myself

cold moon
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live in a cave?

jagged crypt
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you can automate shades based on lux value of sensor for optimal tv contrast

native pilot
tacit pilot
jagged crypt
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not a hardware topic, but didn't get any love in the frontend channel. I setup the sonoff water-valves (just today, ask me again next month if they are leaking, etc). Looking for a template/blueprint/code to steal to allow my wife to change the programming from a controllable card. Yes I am probably going to have to build something specific, but just wondering if anyone's got something or point me to something already. (my first pass of googling for stuff failed). (I already have hardcoded automations, and i can obviously add an on/off to them)

tacit pilot
jagged crypt
tacit pilot
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They're just blind tilts

jagged crypt
tacit pilot
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@cold moon Thanks for the tip about rtings though. Not sure I've come across this site before

cold moon
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It’s what I was linked to when asking about TVs

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Apparently you figure out what to buy there and what settings to color calibrate with

static tusk
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what usb device are a must have?

oak scarab
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My aqara door and window sensor is showing closed even though it’s open, showing 100% battery (I highly doubt it) and showing that it’s 99 degrees..
Ive already removed and readded in z2m
No change

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Ong bro

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This shits annoying

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the "unavailable" is me resetting/repairing it

south dock
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Hi! I know to flash esp home on to the device

https://devices.esphome.io/devices/Tinxy-4N-Fan-Regulator

. Now how do I simulate this device in a small form factor. I can't remove the actual switches/socket covering to test this.

I want to test it first because this is my first esphome and home assistant setup.

I am planning to use a 120mm ac fan and b22 bulb. Now what about switches?
And how to do this safely?

Please tag me when you reply

devices.esphome.io

This website is a repository of device configuration templates and setup guides for devices running ESPHome firmware.

gloomy mountain
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What's everyones naming convention for door/window sensors? I am using M2Z and when I name it "Front Door", the final sensor in HA ends up as "Front Door Door". Do people just manually rename?

gloomy mountain
oak scarab
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no

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i have multiple, the others are working fine

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for some reason its only showing linkquality

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if i press the button, it then updates and shows all states but they're all WRONG

viscid coral
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hello, I am looking at buying some smartwings blinds. However, there are multiple different connection types when buying. If I just want to run it over wifi to my home assistant running on a spare pc can i just use the standard motor?

gloomy mountain
oak scarab
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would it being open that long massively kill the battery?

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i ordered some new batteries

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not sure where my dmm is so i cant check the voltage

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maybe the batt is strong enough to connect but not enough to report a binary value?? idfk

gloomy mountain
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Do you have another one you can grab the battery out of for testing?
Is it possible it might have liquid damage or something?
When you put the magnet near it and away from it does it make that super quiet tick noise? Maybe something is dislodged inside?
tbh, grasping at straws here haha

oak scarab
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i only have one

oak scarab
gloomy mountain
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Is it a T1 sensor?

oak scarab
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whats a t1 sensor

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did it break when it fell :/

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before i even got to use it

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Fuck

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Yep looks like a piece of this glass tube broke.

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so im getting it replaced, i kinda feel bad but also not. the adhesive should've held better. i even prepped the surface with IPA

gloomy mountain
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Yeah that's the T1 sensor (Aqara's friendly model name). I was gonna say, mine sitting in front of me (yet to put up) does not rattle. 😦

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But this information does change where I was going to mount the sensor on the door...

native pilot
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It’s a great question but I think it’s because feit bulbs are not typically dimmable.

native pilot
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They have a chart to tell you.

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Ok, why do they say not to use feit bulbs then?

steep imp
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Are there and aifryers that work good with homeassistant and where Hardware isn't faulty (I saw many complaints about the xiaomi where users couldn't even close their airfryer or it caught fire..).

I'm from germany and my budget would be 100€. If there is none I'd then buy one without wifi.

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Ping me if you answer :)

native pilot
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Zooz is good

limpid gale
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My apologies if this is the wrong channel:

I purchased a Sonoff Zigbee stick.
I'm running HAOS through Virtualbox on a headless Ubuntu server
Using VBoxManage I can get the zigbee to show up in HA, but once I attempt to configure it, HA becomes completely unresponsive and I'm forced to reboot the Ubuntu server

Has anyone seen this before? Or know of a way to get better logs to figure out what is happening before HA becomes unresponsive?

finite narwhal
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Are there any smart ceiling fan products out there that don't require a neutral wire?

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(I do not currently have a fan in this room)

finite narwhal
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Not even sure what I'm looking at in the ceiling here now

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Old fixture had a ground wire and one wire to the bare black, one to the braided white. Then there's the other set with the nut on them.
Wall switch has ground and 2 wires

cold moon
finite narwhal
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So, neutral in the ceiling, none at the wall switch -- sounds like a canopy module is what I want here

charred marsh
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Hello all 😃 ,
I'm the noob trying to start playing with Zigbee and HA 😄
I recently installed a SkyConnect USB stick on my Synology NAS and connected it to a VM running Home Assistant. It was working fine, but after a reboot (trying to migrate from ZHA to M2Q), the USB stick is no longer recognized by the NAS or by any computer. I've tried reconnecting it, but without success. Could you please help me troubleshoot this issue?
As it is no longer recognized I cannot try to flash it :/ and as it is not recognized in my NAS, it is not the USB VM passthrough the issue mindblown @midnight salmon you had a "similar" issue, did you found something to fix it?

agile cape
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Hey all, idk if this is the right channel but can I buy an external LiDAR sensor to scan my house? My options (not options bc afaik none have a LiDAR sensor) are Samsung J7 A12 and S23

glacial oracle
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I'm not sure what you try to do

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You can buy a lidar sensor and diy anything you'd like

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It will need a bit more than that as you would also need to track your own position in regards to the room

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Or are you looking to buy some addon with an app?

agile cape
# glacial oracle I'm not sure what you try to do

I saw a video showing home a LiDAR sensor can easily make a digital copy of a room. Only issue is none of my device have a LiDAR sensor, so I thought I could use an external one, similar to how you can use a raspberry pi camera with a pi via a ribbon cable

glacial oracle
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yes but no absolutely not

agile cape
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???

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Do u mean yes I can add an external one but no the options I listed don’t have one?

glacial oracle
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there is no such thing as external lidar scanners which you just usbc plug in to my awareness

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nothing about spatial tracking is trivial

agile cape
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Ok I’ll try smth else, Ty for the help tho

glacial oracle
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you could get a device that has such capabilities, like an iphone, ipad, vr/ar headsets (kinda) or you will need to fully diy something

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if low fidelity is enough you may get away with a tof sensor
which if i recall is how most modernish smartphones do the autofocus already

fluid garnet
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Anybody familiar with zooz Zen32? Is it possible to disable the relay on the main button (5) and use it to control group lighting?

plucky narwhal
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Hi ! I recently bought a Home Assistant Green with a ZBT-1 dongle. After a restart, the dongle disappeared, as both USB port from Home Assistant. If anyone has any solution to this, it's been 2 days and I can't find any...

knotty belfry
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Hello I have Marmitek doorbell can i use the tuya app because the smart me is the same and so integrated in home assistent.

plucky narwhal
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@cold moon thanks !

novel knot
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Hello all. So I’ve been living with my roommates for about a year now. One is a little tech smart and has been setting up a home assistant for the house recently. He was able to see and add my 3 LIFX lights that I had out in my room without my knowledge which is whatever, they’re lights. But he mentioned that he saw my security camera show up on the wifi network and asked if it was okay if he could add that too. I said no.

My question is, could he add it without my knowledge? And could he view footage stored and then delete it afterwards?

native pilot
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I mean, in seems highly unlikely that this has anything to do with Home Assistant. I don't know what kind of camera you have, but he'd need to have the login credentials for either it's app or home assistant (most likely).

In a perfect world, none of your smart home stuff would be on a wifi network he has access to.

What did he add the bulbs to? I know for me, LIFX bulbs were automatically added to my Apple ecosystem after being added to the Lifx app. No additional credentials needed because it's all on the same wifi network.

novel knot
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It’s a Tapo camera and he runs and manages the home assistant himself.

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So he has the login info for the home assistant.

uncut ridge
fluid garnet
acoustic quest
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Is there a super simple turn-key RGB indicator I can plug into a 120v outlet that the home assistant can control? I need a light to go by my back door that says that the driveway gate is open. Basically an esphome device with one LED and a 120v plug on the end

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i know there are plenty of things that also have an RGB LED. those are cool too, as long as they are small and I can plug 'em in

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I asked elsewhere and everyone was telling me "just make your own with esphome"

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sure. but right now I want to spend $20 and have a thing that does a thing

patent river
acoustic quest
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my 3-4 matter devices have Just Worked so far...

patent river
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Review suggests it works just fine

acoustic quest
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ordered it. if it doesn't work it has that amazon 30 day return policy

patent river
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I'm totally with you on this one too.
Sometimes I don't want to assemble, program, debug, etc. Not to mention searching for, then waiting for a half dozen parts to show up in the first place.
Yes it might be half the price, but I have other things I need to do too. Just give me "good enough" and let me get on with things.

acoustic quest
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exactly

thin hollow
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Anybody here run multiple Reolink TrackMix 4K cameras?
If so, what hardware and software do you use?
I need to be able to view 4 camera streams simultaneously, and want the footage storing at original quality

slim lagoon
left raft
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Anyone had luck getting the spectrum xumo remote to program with broadlink?

vestal lake
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hey guys! is the sonoff zigbe dongle connect to home assistant via ZHA?

vestal lake
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ty

alpine saffron
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Why would my virtual HAOS instance CPU usage jump when increasing memory from 4 to 6 GB?

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Proxmox on a n5105 mini PC. 2 cores an 6 up from 4 MB memory.

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Is there any way of seeing which process is taxing the CPU?

golden thorn
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Yes. You can use the glances addon. Open it, then press z and c. Please share what you see, I'm curious.
Can you also share the node's Summary?

mystic harbor
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Anyone aware of a sensor type of device which can monitor for ground faults in mains voltage? So, 230VAC, IT, TT, TN systems. Bonus for SNMP support...

buoyant blade
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Wouldn't that just be a monitoring the current on each leg and then alerting if you see an imbalance? What is the limit 10ma or something like that?

glacial oracle
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The Shelly em3 comes with an addon fourth sensor to monitor currents on neutral

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But reasonable you could just install that kind of protective gear instead as monitoring is rather useless on something that should lead to a shutdown

agile cape
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Anyone know if I can use wake words on a watchy? I can’t tell from the docs if it’s got a mic or a speaker

native pilot
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Nothing zigbee or zwave due to traffic. I've had good luck with the Aqara FP2 (though others haven't) and I've had overall good luck with the apollo msr2. You definitely don't need presence and PIR.

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Both the fp2 and the apollo units are wifi.

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Lol nope

mystic harbor
alpine saffron
cold moon
alpine saffron
cold moon
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+1 point for honesty but -1 more point for admitting using tuya

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haha jk

wicked moon
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Hey folks, I am at my whits end here. I have these lights:
https://www.lumarysmart.com/products/lumary-smart-recessed-light-with-gradient-auxiliary-light?variant=41396371325133

I have configured them with Tuya, they show up as 5 devices, but 10 entities. (Picture 1) and picture two, you can see I tried to add them to groups (Picture 2)

I want to be able to as a group, control the main lights (labled kitchen lights) and as a group control the night lights.

I can do this in google home, by putting them in an area, but I can't change the area in home assistant.

I would like to eventually accomplish being able to have a button on my dashboard to control them - but in their current state I cannot.

Lumary

Elevate your lighting with Lumary Smart RGBAI Recessed Light. Versatile effects, customizable scenes, and app control for a personalized experience. Easy installation.

gloomy burrow
wicked moon
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That unfortunately doesn't work, because it links the device as a group, and not the entity.

gloomy burrow
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it should be an entity

cold moon
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granted you bought tuya so "at your wits end" this early isnt a great sign of future happiness

wicked moon
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So, the main light shows as
light.lumary_6_smart_rgbai_ultra_thin_downlight_e1

whereas the "night light" shows as:

switch.lumary_6_smart_rgbai_ultra_thin_downlight_e1_2

I can't find a way to change it to a light, instead of a switch. GUI or yaml.

wicked moon
cold moon
wicked moon
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Copy, appreciate the unhelpful response. Cheers

cold moon
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your light should have multiple entities exposed

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light_1 light_2 light_3 etc

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you use those to create a "light group" via helpers in the ui

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if those arent exposed to you then that's not ideal

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are you unable to do this because it does not expose multiple light entities?

wicked moon
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Can only group these in the helpers, only these entities are exposed.

If I tried to group the secondary entity, I can't because only this appears (the main one)

gloomy burrow
wicked moon
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So, that hides it as a switch, and doesn't make the light visible.

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I tried that earlier, and it did the same thing

cold moon
primal bison
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I have two separate USB-to-serial devices connected my HAOS server (Raspberry Pi 5 8GB). One is an ESP32 and the other is a GPS receiver.

Both have worked fine for a while now.

Having an issue now where both are disconnecting and reconnecting constantly (as seen via gmesg). The result is that the GPS device is not getting a lock because it’s resetting so often.

I’ve tried a full reboot. Anyone have suggestions?

glacial oracle
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Are those devices plugged into a powered USB hub

wicked moon
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No change for me - still show as switches.

primal bison
vestal lake
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Hey guys! Are there some cheap aliexpress smart lights that work locally with HA?

golden thorn
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I can't image why the guest agent would use so much CPU. Let's try to figure it out.
Try using the VNC shell (better xterm) and run and share these

systemctl status qemu-guest.service
journalctl -ru qemu-guest.service

You have to enter login first to get out of the HA CLI.
Here's how to enable xterm which allows copy & paste: #installation-archived message

Unfortunately HAOS doesn't ship with things like strace and you can't easily install it either. Might be needed though.
Here's some information on how to do it: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/2476#issuecomment-1748337263
You can find the agent's pid with pidof qemu-ga.

What you can try is to manually start it with verbosse logging and see if there's anything interesting logged.

systemctl stop qemu-guest
/usr/libexec/qemu-ga -m virtio-serial -p /dev/virtio-ports/org.qemu.guest_agent.0 --fsfreeze-hook=/usr/libexec/haos-freeze-hook --verbose

It's the same command from systemctl show qemu-guest | grep ExecStart just with --verbose.

novel knot
round wolf
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Hi all :)!

I have an odroid N2 laying around doing nothing. Can I use this instead of the N2+?

round cape
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Hello! I'm running HA on a raspberry Pi 4 model b, but suddenly fan stopped working and HA went down. Upon inspection the red power light is on, but the green ACT light is either flickering or completely off.

slim lagoon
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Broadlink RM4 Pro

charred marsh
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Hello all,
I recently installed a SkyConnect (ZBT-1) USB stick on my Synology NAS and connected it to a VM running Home Assistant. It was working fine, but after a reboot (trying to migrate from ZHA to M2Q), the USB stick is no longer recognized by the NAS or by any computer (with the good drivers). I've tried reconnecting it, but without success. Could you please help me troubleshoot this issue?
As it is no longer recognized I cannot try to flash it :/ and as it is not recognized in my NAS, it is not the USB VM passthrough the issue.
Thanks in advance for your time and help ha

cold moon
vestal lake
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Anyone can send good local bulbs/LED strips and lights in general that works locally?

slim lagoon
vestal lake
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I justed ordered the sonoff ZigBee dongle so if it will fit that it will be good

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Can lights on wifi be controlled locally? Because I tried adding some tuya light to the local tuya and failed them all

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And yes, outside the US

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So something from AliExpress/amazon will be best 🤧

slim lagoon
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Zigbee bulbs (Hue, innr, and IKEA) are good choices. If you can get them in your country, I like Wiz WiFi bulbs. They are local.

vestal lake
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Hue innr Ikea also local?

slim lagoon
vestal lake
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I'm instrested in ordering from Amazon/Ali because the price is around 1/3 of the prices here

vestal lake
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Someone tried yeelight?

slim lagoon
vestal lake
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Nice to hear! Do you know by chance if they work with zha?

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Also, did someone ever tried this product?

slim lagoon
slim lagoon
vestal lake
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Most of my smart home is tuya but now that I'm trying to move everything to local to take off the delay I'm having a hard time

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The only thing I managed to get into the local tuya is the smart plug

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Oh btw, I seen you mention the broadlink IR blaster. Is it local as well?

slim lagoon
slim lagoon
boreal zealot
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Hello! Random question to hopefully get pointed in the right direction.

Recently set up home assistant to help monitor my power usage with iotawatt.

Today, my kid (5) was fussing about wanting an Alexa in her room. They use Alexa to play music at daycare.

My thinking is, I could use home assistant to do similar, so we don't have an Alexa in her room.

The question: is there some simple (relatively) hardware I could buy to have a voice assistant microphone plus speaker?

hollow pier
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Maybe a bit unrelated but I'm looking to put a fan in my HP T520 thin client, you may think why isn't silent a pro and chill? I'd rather want it to cool a bit better and active cooling is better in the first place. It's going to be powered by usb 5v fan since it doesn't have a fan connector, what size in mm fan you think I should go with?

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I was thinking 80mm

glacial oracle
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it likely wont be worth spending the money

hollow pier
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I think I kinda understand you but explain please?

glacial oracle
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cooling it more wont yield any reasonable gains

golden thorn
hollow pier
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it's on top of my router and they're both laying horizontal, I know it should be vertical but I don't have room for that

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they're both getting pretty hot

golden thorn
glacial oracle
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40c is "pretty hot" to the human touch, but that doesnt make cooling it necessary

golden thorn
hollow pier
glacial oracle
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sensors and friends works there

golden thorn
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Ah. Then run this on the node

apt install lm-sensors
watch -n1 sensors

You might want/have to run sensors-detect first after installing the package.

hollow pier
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we can try it out again.

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so we will start in shell of pve?

glacial oracle
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yes

golden thorn
hollow pier
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we'll see

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syntax error: operand expected

golden thorn
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Wait. Why am I sharing a screenshot.

# for i in /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone*/; do echo "$i: $(($(cat $i/temp) / 1000)) ($(cat $i/type))" ; done
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/: 27 (acpitz)
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/: 29 (acpitz)
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/: 44 (x86_pkg_temp)
golden thorn
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That modifes system files which I don't recommend.

hollow pier
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so just those 3 commands?

glacial oracle
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and sensors doesnt work at all?

golden thorn
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I'm not quite sure why my one-liner doesn't work for you. Maybe your /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone*/ looks much different from mine.

hollow pier
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I just did that one liner command

golden thorn
hollow pier
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thats what i meant with 3 commands

golden thorn
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Yup. What do they result in?

hollow pier
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lets try it out

hollow pier
hollow pier
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?

golden thorn
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Each line is a separate command.

hollow pier
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oki

glacial oracle
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you could probably also see them with htop/btop

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while they should show the same stuff as sensors, the output may not be the same

golden thorn
hollow pier
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first command

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yes I think?

glacial oracle
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from my testing sensors doesnt necessarily show the stuff even tho htop/btop may

hollow pier
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2nd one coming

hollow pier
golden thorn
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In that order. Try without sensors-detect first.

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As for HTOP it's here if you press F2

hollow pier
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is this something i should be seeing?

glacial oracle
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that does not include the cpu temp

golden thorn
hollow pier
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just doing that 3rd command now.

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I think we should just go and scan?

glacial oracle
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there is a --auto option

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it wont help a whole lot

hollow pier
golden thorn
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The uppercase is the default if you press enter.

hollow pier
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keep pressing enter

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?

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as well here

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?

hollow pier
golden thorn
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Read the text and press enter if it feels safe to you. My response will likely not change.

hollow pier
golden thorn
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Seems like there was nothing to do and the output will be the same.

hollow pier
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Well I just looked online for k10temp-pci-00c3

golden thorn
hollow pier
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this thing has an AMD GX-212JC and when I looked that K10temp up this is indeed the cpu

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for Amd.

golden thorn
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That CPU can withstand 90°C

glacial oracle
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(you could just open htop and see if values show up ;D)

golden thorn
golden thorn
hollow pier
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I know

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now that HTOP part that requires mods?

golden thorn
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If you're willing to try something I'd like to see how high the number goes.

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No.

golden thorn
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apt install stress-ng
stress-ng -c 2

Run watch -n1 sensors in another session while this runs.

hollow pier
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can you do that in Proxmox?

golden thorn
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I suppose you can use tmux but I want to keep this simple. I generally expect people to use a SSH client to manage their server.
You can also just press the Shell button at the top right twice.

hollow pier
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ah yeah

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it says this with apt install stress-ng

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each line is a command I did that

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but we'll see

golden thorn
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By bad, edited.

hollow pier
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try the command again?

golden thorn
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Of course. This will answer if the sensor is the CPU and how high it will go under max utilization.

hollow pier
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looks better

vernal crest
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Hi all, wondering if anyone here is using Mitsubuishi2MQTT successfully, and if so which boards are you using?

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I've got some wemos D1 units programmed right now, but I can't seem to get them to make the serial connection

left raft
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Is there better way to learn rf codes of the broadlink rm4 pro then the official ha way? trying to learn a fan remote and i can get the different fan speeds programmed but fan power will not. i can learn it through the broadlink app however.

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not sure why this is so difficult tbh. been pulling my hair out with this

slim lagoon
left raft
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single button basically just turns the fan off

slim lagoon
left raft
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ironically my lg programmed first time

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is there a trick to it? ir seems to be easier then rf from what im reading

slim lagoon
left raft
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i heard there is a way to retrieve the codes from the app?

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seems a pain in the ass to do though

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ok...figured it out. i had to do it like a ir method and keep clicking the button

rocky wyvern
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Is all of the Switchbot Matter gear fully supported in HA?

trim sierra
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Hi everyone. I’m new to the community, joined because I have a problem with an ESP32-Update I can’t resolve. Am I in the right place?

native pilot
trim sierra
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Okay, thanks 🙏

native pilot
trim sierra
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I‘ll have a look over there too. Thanks a lot for the pointers!

rocky wyvern
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I am trying to find a few stable indoor motion detectors to use with HA. Preferably cheap and using Thread + Matter and with a mature HA integration, but that might not exist. Any recommendations?

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My Aquara FP2 is now refusing to work unless it can connect to the Internet so I would like to avoid a repeat

rocky wyvern
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I don’t have any Zigbee or Z-wave devices yet but I know that I want the most stable experience possible even if I need to pay more up front

tame current
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Hi all,

very new to HA, discovered this recently. as of today i'm using Alexa with a few light bulbs in the living room automated but I want to add some sensors to have the air conditioning and temperature sensors, so i've been digging a little into HA but im kinda lost on what kind of setup I should start with as full beginner.

  • Which country you're in: Portugal
  • What your budget is: 100€ max
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave): I have no idea or preference right now
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc): it will be mainly for lights, temp sensors and air conditioning to start
trail compass
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I have no clue where to post this but:

Is there a way to send the datapoint time component with its value? Maybe through the REST api? I saw mqtt does not support time components but im really limited and need to bundle data for my sensors battery to not run out too soon.
The reason is:
I have an ESP8266 connect to wifi and upload sensor data, the esp reads this data from a sensor over I2C that stores its values in a FIFO buffer while the ESP is sleeping. I can calculate the time the values are generated but i can't send them real time or the battery will run out due to the wifi connection. I tried all sleeping modes but only deep sleep can stretch the battery enough... I understand why MQTT does not allow this, but since HA keeps a history it makes sense you would be able to append to this history through api from a sensor. I have seen similar questions on the internet but never a solution or a reason why this can't be added. I would love to use this sensor with HA, and maybe support its integration in the future, but if this is not possible it will be a dealbreaker. :/

red locust
#

Hi guys, do you know how to detect if my shelly is connected or not within the shelly script? i want to disable the deatached switch mode if that is the case

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slim lagoon
# rocky wyvern I don’t have any Zigbee or Z-wave devices yet but I know that I want the most st...

We all want the most stable experience 😉 With that said, Zigbee motion sensors by Hue, Aqara or IKEA are the most stable provided you have a stable Zigbee mesh setup (decent coordinator and at least a few routing devices). It’s not hard to setup, provided you follow some basic advice. #zigbee-archived can help there. #zwave-archived can also be very stable, but you usually end up spending a lot more on those sensors.

slim folio
#

I am getting started and suppose I need a Zigbee hub that works with HA. Any suggestions on what to get?

slim lagoon
runic tinsel
# trail compass I have no clue where to post this but: Is there a way to send the datapoint tim...

I think it’s against the HA design philosophy. But: the Spook hacs integration has an import statistics action. You supply a datastamp and value in an appropriate format and it will add it to the long-term statistics database to the entity you want. You can even have an entity just in LTS without the actual live sensor. You don’t get anything in the short-term history, but the history graph plot the LTS data if it has it, so this may be good enough. After the 10 days time of the short term history, it’s all that is left anyway.

glacial oracle
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probably

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zha may only use one tho, so you kinda would need to spin up two instances of z2m

slim folio
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What pi should I get for Ha? Does it matter? I’m a computer engineer but have never used a pi before!

golden thorn
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None: #general-archived message
I'd recommend a used (U)SFF PC or a Mini PC.
If it has to be a pi (why?) I'd pick a pi 5 with M.2 HAT.

slim folio
cold moon
slim folio
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Link?

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I'm just trying to monitor some temp sensors so I'm not looking to spend a lot

cold moon
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and yes it comes with win11 too you could save the key and virtualize win11 - most people here including me suggest running a hypervisor such as proxmox and then virtualizing w/e you want on it

slim folio
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Cool Thanks

vestal lake
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Athom tasmota bulbs, anyone heated of them? Are they good, local?

cold moon
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i have a couple gu10 and a few 15W and they are underwhelming. the gu10 i actually like but if you have the $ hue gu10 would be ideal

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but ya if you want rgbw hue zigbee is ideal, cheaper similar colors are wiz wifi bulbs instead but i'm not a huge fan

slim lagoon
slim lagoon
cold moon
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i still like my athom ones tbh they just are low lumen

slim lagoon
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Yeah, I thought about getting some athom bulbs to play with eventually.

cold moon
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i have three 15w i dont want if you want to pay shipping. the athom cto said you can solder on an esp32 instead of the esp8285 and they work better (i dont wanna)

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link to discussion with him^

slim lagoon
cold moon
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uh idk whatever the us standard is called lol

slim lagoon
slim lagoon
cold moon
patent river
cold moon
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the big bois

patent river
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It's a "don't talk to me or my son ever again" lightbulb 😄

cold moon
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it's a hue and an athom which is kinda backwards

glacial oracle
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you vs the bulb not to worry about

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wonder why they only get 1400lm out of a 15w lamp

cold moon
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i eventually gave up but my garage is also an oven

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like at 30% brightness they were fine but 100% they got toasty and just.. stopped responding

cold moon
#
trim torrent
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anyone use sonoff snzb-03p for motion activated lights

slim lagoon
trim torrent
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ah just wondering if a human presence sensor is better as i saw a video of the SNBZ-03 the previous model and it didnt perform very well

slim lagoon
slim lagoon
trim torrent
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i didnt want to go down the wall powered route for the sensors

slim lagoon
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Fair, but in terms of presence sensors, battery just isn’t very good for what the sensors need to do. mmWave needs to scan often to determine micro movements. That would kill a battery quickly. So, they reduce the sensing time by a lot to make them work.

native pilot
mortal mica
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Im trying to flash sonoff dongle e with ember and ive been hitting a wall for hours. I use the tool from Darkxst and it finds the ddongle, but then errors out when trying to connect

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i saw some guides talk about having to take off the casing and press buttons, but then i dont see that mentioned in other guides

mortal mica
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would anyone be able to help? im at like 6 hours now and no dice 😦

wind vale
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Any way to mod the xaiomi temperature humidity (with the lcd) to use an external probe?
Or recommendations for zigbee sensors with a probe (for monitoring fridge and freezer)?

nova radish
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I am at the beginning of „smartification“ for my flat and I started with a bunch of zigbee power plugs (one aqara, the rest nous a1z) and I like the concept.

Now I’m planning to put a shelly pro em into the breaker box and since I kinda don’t want to look at the power plugs sticking out of the wall I was wondering about those modules behind the outlet.

What makes more sense? Going with shelly and doing a wifi that collects all shelly and esphome devices? Or going with ZigBee and extending my mesh?

pulsar plinth
#

what's the most recommended curtain that can be controlled by HA?

tame current
#

Hi all,

very new to HA, discovered this recently. as of today i'm using Alexa with a few light bulbs in the living room automated but I want to add some sensors to have the air conditioning and temperature sensors, so i've been digging a little into HA but im kinda lost on what kind of setup I should start with as full beginner.

Which country you're in: Portugal
What your budget is: 100€ max
What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave): I have no idea or preference right now
Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc): it will be mainly for lights, temp sensors and air conditioning to start

slim lagoon
slim lagoon
nova radish
winged knoll
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No, because then you have no Zigbee mesh

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WiFi for anything "chatty" (power monitoring, mmWave, air quality), Zigbee for everything else

nova radish
winged knoll
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That's most (not all) mains powered devices - not Sengled, not 2-wire switches/dimmers, and some other stuff

slim lagoon
# wind vale Tyvm

If you poke around their discord, you can maybe sus out a release date. I have a beta unit and have to admit, I’m really liking it.

cold moon
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Yesterday Trevor said if we need to push off release to test more we will

wind vale
buoyant blade
slim lagoon
cold moon
slim lagoon
cold moon
#

trevor said it would sell/be used with a small bottle (1liter iirc) but really any sized container could work for it to pull from

glacial oracle
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People just don't want the toilet floater solution

cold moon
glacial oracle
#

That's what home insurance wants you to believe! > With this simple tap screw on connector you can simply run tubes wherever you need

cold moon
#

tap screw on connector?

sudden mango
#

I got a few ESP32-POE-16MB-ND, I have to initially set it up with ESP Home via USB right?

sudden mango
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wow the esphome website wizard makes it so easy

cold moon
#

Did it do anything special for 16MB?

sudden mango
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No, it set it up as a esp32-poe-iso which is 4mb, I can't find the 16mb changes, and the repo only has this specific model.

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I assume I can just change the model

cold moon
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for certain things like this it needs to be flashed with a certain bin file or proper yaml compiled for initial serial flash

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i'd ask in esphome discord to be safe

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let me know if i'm wrong 😛

sudden mango
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I don't see 16mb in their list of supported boards

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although it seems to work

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I suspect I got to do some override for the memory

cold moon
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https://esphome.io/components/esp32.html#configuration-variables here it says flash_size (Optional, string): The amount of flash memory available on the ESP32 board/module. One of 2MB, 4MB, 8MB, 16MB or 32MB. Defaults to 4MB. Warning: specifying a size larger than that available on your board will cause the ESP32 to fail to boot.

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but idk if you can just jump up to higher without initially flashing.. or rather if that space is actually usable

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i'd ask the turbonerds in esphome discord for sure

sudden mango
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I'll reflash it

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it creates a partition and I think you are right about that

cold moon
#

my contact said it's most likely required to serial flash it with the correct MB

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i keep suggesting mini pcs so now amazon is sending me ads for it like "it's on sale on labor day and you deserve it"

sudden mango
cold moon
#

kewl

sudden mango
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I removed BT Proxy off my two Air-1 units, and it seems to all be working good, but I wish there was a way to visualize what proxy is being used and so on

cold moon
sudden mango
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I reflashed my two air-1 and confirmed it didn't compile in any bluetooth, so I am 99% sure it's off, but the one esp32-poe is picking up all my blue tooth devices on all floors, even from the 3rd floor, so either it is much stronger, or the air-1 are still doing it, before I needed btproxy on both air-1 one on 2nd floor and one in basement to pick up temp sensors in basement and 2nd floor, this one seems to be getting them all from my desk on 2nd floor

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I was planning on putting it on the first floor in the direct middle of all devices and see how it would handle solo, but it's working from my desk already

cold moon
sudden mango
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yes, and watched the build and bt module wasn't compiled in

cold moon
sudden mango
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I don't think so, I got the esp32-poe-16mb-nd

cold moon
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i see

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that model has the external antenna

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the 16mb EA one would've worked too. yours isnt that?

sudden mango
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no this one

cold moon
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rip

sudden mango
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Why?

cold moon
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why would you want an external antenna?

sudden mango
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it seems to be working great, but I can't really visualize it so I want to confirm it works.

sudden mango
cold moon
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it's leagues better but still the onboard are better than they used to be on like old esp8266

sudden mango
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it also does a crap job explaining what each model is

cold moon
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the image on the olimex site changes for each product variant i select

sudden mango
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I can't even find the ND version on their site, not sure the difference

cold moon
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maybe they are the "IND" versions

slim lagoon
# pulsar plinth Any z-wave compatible one?

The only one I know of are the Zemismart curtain rods. But, they aren’t actual curtain motors that attach to rods. They are the entire rail system. There might be a couple of others, but generally the ones that are compatible with existing rods and such are either Zigbee or BT.

untold latch
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This update is trying to install for weeks ... any idea? Running HASS.IO on a NUC

trim torrent
#

anyone use bond bridges

slim lagoon
untold latch
twin cape
#

Hello might not be related hardware not sure. But I am looking at some dimmers I can control via HA. The problems I see at the moment is just the Wattage. I found some Smart Dimmers but they are 5Watt + And I am unsure how low LEDs can dim and if the wattage during the dimming drops lower than that. Does anyone have any experience with this situation?

fiery ibex
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Hey I have an RPi 3b and I want to run home assist off of it, however I do want to use it for some minor tasks too like a pihole. Can I run home assist in docker and not have the rpi overloaded?

winged knoll
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Largely yes

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The 3b is pretty much the bottom of the barrel though, the CPU isn't awesome and 1 GB of RAM ain't much

fiery ibex
#

Largely yes? What are the caveats?

winged knoll
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The lack of RAM and CPU power

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HA will take over half that RAM

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(how much depends on what you configure)

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You'll probably be fine, depending on what else you run

fiery ibex
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Pihole pretty much and nothing afaik

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But no stutters or hitches due to lack of cpu power?

winged knoll
#

For just HA and PiHole it should be fine

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Keep in mind that SD cards die, so ensure you have backups that aren't kept on the Pi

fiery ibex
#

To reiterate I want to run debian (headless mostly) with HA into docker and then a pihole package

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So green lights

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Network is small so pihole will not use much ram

winged knoll
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As long as you don't go crazy on HA it'll be fine

fiery ibex
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Na it's just some smart sensors (door, a touch knob) with TRÅDFRI lights

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And some basic scenes for that

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Alright thank you

chilly sable
#

Does anyone know if there's a device or sensor that detects when a certain voltage is required and then send out that voltage? Example: A smart phone requires 3.7v-4.2v to power on, and when you go into certain apps it requires 4.8v. The phone does not have a battery, so it cannot use the bms to sense these things.

glacial oracle
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this shouldnt be required at all

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the voltage should not change at all besides the pd specified steps (for the charging side)

#

depending on the exact model, you may power it directly via usb, directly into the battery connector or utilize a dummy battery

quasi bough
forest bay
#

Hey all. Thought I'd ping the brain trust on this because I can't really find anything. I'm looking for an HEM and I'm leaning toward Aeotec right now. Thing is there's a pretty substantial price difference between the likes of the gen 2 and gen 5 models but I can't for the life of me find any break down of performance/reliability/feature differences. Does anyone have some insight?

winged knoll
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for Z-Wave stuff always buy Z-Wave Plus (500 series) or newer

quasi bough
forest bay
forest bay
quasi bough
forest bay
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Well there's this gen 2 on ebay for $25 but if it's going to be hot garbage I won't bother.

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it's obviously very old (~2015)

forest bay
quasi bough
forest bay
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Ahh I just haven't seen it abbreviated that way. Gotcha.

winged knoll
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If you already had it then use it, but don't buy old stuff

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The listing makes it look like it's pre-Z-Wave Plus

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Run away 😉

forest bay
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Ehh I like to reuse old electronics for ewaste reasons. It just comes with needing to understand how things have progressed and whether or not they will meet my needs.

forest bay
winged knoll
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Well, there's a logo, and zero mention of Z-Wave Plus

forest bay
#

Yeah

winged knoll
#

Old is fine, old and crappy... not so much

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Z-Wave Plus is old, but still ok

forest bay
#

Well fair enough. I appreciate the intel on avoiding old zwave.

winged knoll
jolly prism
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Im looking for setting up a wallmount for HA, which one is the best. I dont want an android tab where i have to select the app to run it. I want a fully integrated screen with HA only in it. Any suggestions?

night steppe
#

As someone who knows zero command line stuff and hasn't worked with virtual machines before, how daunting is the task of getting a mini-pc set up with Proxmox and HA? The benefits to running it in a VM do look worth the hassle but I'm worried I'll be making it way more of a headache for myself

quiet lodge
#

haven't tried yet, waiting for my mini-pc in the mail to arrive

night steppe
#

Interesting. For my own sake, can I ask what PC you went with?

quiet lodge
#

i went a step up and got the bee link eq13 n200

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but seems like n100 is the one recommended

night steppe
#

You slap a Z-wave USB onto something like that, right?

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Sorry if that's a silly question, just trying to get an idea of what costs overall look like for the mini-pc route

quiet lodge
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yes

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no worries i'm still learning/researching as well, just sharing info i've gathered

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then a poe zigbee gateway is recommended so that they could be placed away from each other so the signals won't interfere

night steppe
quiet lodge
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yup

night steppe
#

What on earth are the differences between the models there?

quiet lodge
night steppe
#

I guess the other main thing I see discussed a lot is adding a Coral TPU as part of camera integrations. Should I assume that's recommended as part of my budget for this, you think? I do aim to have a few cameras set up ultimately around the property

quiet lodge
#

interesting, havne' tcome across that yet. checking it out now. I use unifi protect for cams

night steppe
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I haven't heard about that option so I guess I need to look at that. Most of what I was reading was describing Frigate and a coral tpu

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I feel like I barely understand some of what I'm reading, to be fair

quiet lodge
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yea unifi is just my existing camera system

night steppe
#

The main thing I'm seeing about the Unifi stuff is the price is pretty cranked up vs some of the other options

quiet lodge
#

spent the last few nights skimming and searching through lot of the chats

jolly prism
#

Im looking for setting up a wallmount for HA, which one is the best.

I dont want an android tab where i have to select the app to run it. I want a fully integrated screen with HA only in it.

Any suggestions? Hows google nest?

pastel moth
#

Any ESPHome people here? I'm looking at the website, but there's no obvious place that explains how to install ESPHome onto a microcontroller... Am I missing something?

glacial oracle
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You best ask esphome related questions in their discord

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They are usually more experienced in it than we here for general hardware stuff

pastel moth
#

Gotcha, thanks!

cunning lotus
#

Hey guy, I'm looking for a high quality garage door opener that works well with home assistant. I am located in germany. Any recommendations? Is there anything else worth considering besides Hörmann?

tepid loom
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hi everyone, does anyone know a good hardware device that can help me open and close my blinds with automations? I have blinds that work with a small cord that needs to be pulled from either side to open and close. And I'm looking for a device that can pull those cords....

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I would need something that works nicely with home assistant

glass ridge
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anyone here have the reolink doorbel and knows how one can run quickplay messages?
im on HAS 2024.4
and latest doorbell firmware yet i dont see the option to play a quickplay message

rose matrix
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I am running HA in a docker container and today I purchased a skyconnect dongle but cannot get HA to recognise it. There is no autodetection as per the instructions. I even tried flashing the latest firmware but still will not work. Anyone had a similar issue and know what the problem might be?

winged knoll
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The container is privileged or you passed the device in?

glass ridge
rose matrix
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And what do you mean by passing the device in?

jolly prism
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Can anyone tell me about any good and cheap wall mount display for HA

gloomy spoke
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Or why they used /dev/ttyUSB0. You should find the appropriate dev node from /dev/serial/by-id/xxxx

golden thorn
rose matrix
agile loom
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Hello! What are your preferred solutions for making dumb light switches smart? I think I need a switch relay? Or a full replacement. It's a 2 gang that has the ceiling lights and also will have a fan controlled by a sonoff ifan. I have sonoff outlet controllers flashed with esphome and they work great.

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just realized that the sonoff ifan doesn't seem to have a reverse sitch tho

hoary relic
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so im looking at these smart fan switch from innoveli, it says ac motors only, how do i know if my fan is ac or dc?

agile loom
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most fans will be ac unless they specify DC. Do you have a manual for the fans?

hoary relic
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uhhh, i think there was one floating around when i bought the house

agile loom
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or the model

hoary relic
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might be printed on the unit somewhere

cold moon
hoary relic
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hmm, can't have that

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water heater already escaped this year

cold moon
agile loom
cold moon
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Cool kids move hue devices off the hue hub to a zigbee coordinator

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Even cooler kids use a PoE based zigbee coordinator centrally located

agile loom
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didn't know that was even possible

cold moon
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I have 40 hue bulbs on my zigbee mesh

hoary relic
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do you even need to buy the hue hub in that case?

agile loom
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oofta

cold moon
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One out front acts as a repeater for my mailbox 📫 so when it’s opened I get a notification

agile loom
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but the problem that I am trying to solve right now is this switch situation lol

cold moon
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Ok all the switches will act as repeaters for the mesh same as the bulbs

agile loom
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and a fan controller since this the sonoff doesn't seem to do do it. May have to do the thing with a bond bridge remote thing and a normal remote ocntroller for the fan

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blergh

tacit burrow
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Yeah, I deleted my hue hub. Want to buy it? 🙂

cold moon
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However if you have zigbee bulbs such as hue plus zigbee switches that support binding such as inovelli then you can bind them

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Aka make them talk together even if home assistant disappears

cold moon
agile loom
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what zigbee coordinator the cool kids use? I am ghessing sticking a zigbee usb dongle on my proxmox that is literally inside a box on the laundry won't cut it

hoary relic
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shoot i just might, about to buy a set of recessed lights

tacit burrow
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Yeah, I have no idea where it actually is. I've got a box full of ewaste in my garage, probably there.

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I use tubez coordinator, it's great.

agile loom
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hmm. There's Caseta too.

tacit burrow
agile loom
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I don't have any poe shit here either unfortunately

cold moon
agile loom
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small apartment, can't have the same setuop I had on my twice the size of this apartment previous house

cold moon
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But it works for most people

tacit burrow
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I don't like dongles becase (a) rf interference and (b) lack of flexiblity about where to put it

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My HA boxes are in my workshop, in a different building...

cold moon
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Ya you have to buy a usb extender

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New video from home assistant demonstrating USB zigbee interference with and without an extension
https://youtu.be/tHqZhNcFEvA

USB 3.0 can cause your Zigbee devices to fully stop functioning. In this video we show this by moving a Zigbee device and Zigbee adapter next to USB 3.0 port and cable.

The demo is done with a Home Assistant SkyConnect and IKEA Tradfri remote but this affects all Zigbee sticks and devices.

To avoid interference, use a shielded USB 2.0 extensio...

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hoary relic
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why do they use 2.4 if its so damn sensitive

agile loom
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crosses walls like they aren't there

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very resistant to blocked line of sight

hoary relic
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but can't cross a 2a current

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lol

agile loom
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it's not the current it's the frequency. When you have power going ON/OFF on any kind of conductor you generate EM

hoary relic
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i don't think zwave is affected like that

agile loom
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having nightmares about a badly shielded VFD

cold moon
agile loom
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I just love electronics

cold moon
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Also zooz is having a sale now

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Hard to beat their switch prices at less than half of inovelli

agile loom
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zooz is zwave then

cold moon
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Yep

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I have zooz switches and hue zigbee bulbs lol

agile loom
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wonder if I can have zwave/zigbee dongles mounted on a different server and have HA control it via network or mqtt or something like that

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like a repeater

cold moon
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you can do the same with a pi or server or whatever too

agile loom
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yeah, that makes sense

cold moon
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like some guys will put a pi centrally located and put a zwave and zigbee dongle on it and home assistant still controls those sticks

agile loom
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I think I will get the zooz switches. Hopefully they are sized in a way that I can put two on a box and the faceplate will match

cold moon
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they fit but they are thicc like all other smart switches

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so you have to pre-bend your romex and say a little prayer

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i have old 1980 texas build maybe you have deeper gang boxes

agile loom
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as long as the faceplate matches I can just shove it there lol

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yeah this is a new construction so hopefully not miserable

cold moon
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i would suggest testing out at least one of the scene controllers

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i really like it

agile loom
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one of the whom

cold moon
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top switch is a relay for fan <3amp inrush current or light

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also has smart bulb mode so it can be not a relay if you have a hue bulb for example

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other 4 are additional buttons for stuff and things

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i use it for like.. double tap on one button = morning routine and double tap on the button below it = sleep routine

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plus some other things like just toggling lights in adjacent rooms

agile loom
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ah nice

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I was thinking about assembling some kind of LCD display thingie to run a dashboard and control stuff

cold moon
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otherwise go for zen76 or zen77 if you want dimmers

agile loom
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but I am sure someone already did that

cold moon
agile loom
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nah, just need turn on and off (for the switches)

cold moon
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agile loom
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any good solution/suggestion for fan control?

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I wish I could have that dashboard on the google home monitor devices that I already have everywhere in the house really

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haven't got to the integration betwqeen google assistant and HA

cold moon
agile loom
cold moon
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i have one flashed but never installed it

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it's on the list

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this plus a inovelli switch gives you full control

agile loom
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it requires the specific switch tho right

cold moon
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no

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you could tape the switch and it would justworkTM with hass

agile loom
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yeah that's what I want really. Just something that can control the fan, and using a switch on the gangbox to have at least a manner of shutting it off in case is needed

hoary relic
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to think, before smart home stuff people just used their kids

agile loom
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some smart home stuff is really useful, but sometimes it's just a nice to have lol

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can I turn on and off the fan manually? yeah, but automating it is fun

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it's fan you know

cold moon
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is that just for fun

agile loom
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the light switch is 2 feet away from me 😄

hoary relic
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just hold your breath until levels drop

agile loom
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Found out that assembling a zwave remote thingie with zwavejs and a raspberry pi is very simple, now I am trying to find the same for zigbee

cold moon
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zwave remote thingie

agile loom
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don't know the terminology, basically a rpi with my zwave dongle somewhere on the house that my HA connects to control the zwave stuff

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or just yolo and use some kind of serial over tcp

hoary relic
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isnt that what the coordinator is

agile loom
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yes but I want to assemble one instead of getting a coordinator, and also would like to have both zigbee and zwave on the same thing

hoary relic
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if i had to guess i'd think it would be 2 different antennas?

agile loom
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yep, two different dongles

hoary relic
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i mean the antenna specifically, is a different design

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cuz zwave is a lower frequency

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so, the thing needs to be a different length?

agile loom
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externally they will look the same really, but different metal curves for sure

hoary relic
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ya

agile loom
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actually this doesn't even look like has an antenna like the zigbee one

cold moon
hoary relic
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it'd be in the housing

cold moon
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but the zwave long range is crazy

hoary relic
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of course, lower the better

cold moon
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like 3 blocks you can click a battery powered remote and hass will respond in 1second

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shit's cray

hoary relic
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its 700mhz iirc?

cold moon
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~900mhz

hoary relic
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the broadcast band?

cold moon
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but zwave long range is special

agile loom
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All I want is to not have to put it on the laundry room, just assemble it on a pi or one of my other computers and expose it to HA

hoary relic
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i mean, tv broadcast?

cold moon
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it spikes power only when needed to go like 5x power of traditional zwave iirc

hoary relic
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cant you get it to backhaul over wifi?

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then you can put the thing anywhere

cold moon
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i think using the words backhaul and wifi in the same sentence is a felony

hoary relic
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😂

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same idea though

agile loom
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there's serial over tcp, or assembple a repeater with zigbee/zwave2mqtt

cold moon
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uh

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if you run zwave js ui it automatically supports remote connections

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otherwise you can use either ser2net or the esphome variant

agile loom
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yeah, I will probably use ser2net

cold moon
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but if you are already using a pi then you dont need to use ser2net for zwave js ui

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you just.. use it

agile loom
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yeah, is there a zwave js ui for zigbee or nah

cold moon
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there is zigbee2mqtt which i like and use

wind vale
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What are the cool kids using to turn off 90* turn shutoff valves for water? Have zigbee (preferable) or wifi (less preferable).

Don't want to go the electromagnetic route really!

Thank you!

cold moon
serene falcon
patent river
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Says infrared in the picture of the remote. You can also see the receivers on the boards:

serene falcon
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Meh. Ok. Thanks, missed that.

wind vale
jolly prism
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Hey
How do we know which retrofit smart module is compatible with HA?
Like if a module is compatible with alexa and google home? That way?

winged knoll
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What do you mean by "smart module"?

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Also, no, anything that's compatible with those means nothing in terms of HA

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If you want compatible then buy something local (Zigbee, Z-Wave, Matter) or do your research (check for an integration)

jolly prism
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Which can be fitted behind your existing switches

winged knoll
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Don't buy WiFi

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Problem solved 😛

jolly prism
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What do you mean, my question is about compatibility

winged knoll
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If you want compatible then buy something local (Zigbee, Z-Wave, Matter) or do your research (check for an integration)

jolly prism
winged knoll
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They're not, because they often don't work with HA, or are part of the Tuya ecosystem (which is crap)

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WiPro looks to be Tuya based

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If you're happy that you'll be reliant on the Tuya cloud platform (sometimes goes down, not all devices work, and Tuya often break the integration) then buy them

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If you want something that works locally ***then buy something local (Zigbee, Z-Wave, Matter) ***

jolly prism
winged knoll
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Those are local protocols

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Those are good

rustic musk
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What is the cheapest hardware that can be HA installed on?

winged knoll
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What defines cheap for you?

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A #green-archived is probably the cheapest new device that's decent. A Pi4+SSD (on a powered USB hub) works. A second hand small factor PC will likely cost the same and perform better.

rustic musk
winged knoll
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None that's good to run

rustic musk
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Ok thanks, is the pi3 B good enough

winged knoll
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Assuming you're happy that SD cards will die on you

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But hey, you'll get to test backups

rustic musk
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Why they would die

winged knoll
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Because they're not designed for this

rustic musk
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What’s the solution

winged knoll
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SSDs, on an externally powered USB hub

rustic musk
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Ok

winged knoll
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Or just buy something proper

wild atlas
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An old laptop will do well too

runic rivet
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Does anyone know what microcontroller the Home Assistant device uses?

glacial oracle
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the homeassistant device?

runic rivet
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nevermind, I am dumb

agile loom
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I think a rm4 pro will be the only thing I can use to control a ceiling fan that will have a reverse.

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All the ones that are directly controllable don’t support the reversing

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And in the end having manual control is good too for emergencies

torn cliff
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Best ssd and case for rpi4 (8GB) Running home assistant ?😆

glacial oracle
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The best case would be an sff

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It even removes the need for a pi

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Jokes aside, the fully enclosed passive cooled ones work reasonable good

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And for the SSD it doesn't matter, you need a powered USB hub

round cape
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Hey, since my pi 4 b died I'm looking for some advise on what hardware I should get.

tame escarp
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i want a position sensor for my garage door that reports back 0-100% open state of garage door

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it's a roll-up so it's purely vertical

cold moon
round cape
cold moon
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It’s better in every way

winged knoll
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Yellow is still a Pi, an educational tool at heart

golden thorn
tepid loom
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a friend of mine is trying to setup the skyconnect usb stick with both zigbee and thread, is that possible? Currently it seems to use a firmware that supports multiprotocol. How is it possible to make use of this, we have thread installed, however zigbee integration says that it cannot connect with this firmware

winged knoll
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Yes, but no, buy another stick

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The multi-protocol firmware is buggy and not being worked on right now

tepid loom
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so we have a stick that is made by the home assistant team, but it's buggy, and a other stick would work fine?

winged knoll
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You will have stability/reliability problems is you use it

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Nah, the stick is fine

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The multi-protocol firmware isn't

tepid loom
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aha

winged knoll
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And that's reliant on Silicon Labs, who're not helping here

tepid loom
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aha, makes sense

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thank you

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I also have another question but that's about an integration, I'll be hanging out in there

hollow pier
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I think a thin client can be really cheap to run, I mean you can find those for pretty cheap online don't they?

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or just hardware you already have laying around 😊

tepid loom
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what about other usb sticks, are there multi protocol usb sticks that work well with the silicon labs multiprotocol firmware? Or do you just need different usb sticks for different protocols?

hollow pier
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Oh yeah, and cheap can mean many things. Sometimes you can find something good on FB marketplace for cheap so it will always depend a little bit.

gloomy elbow
winged knoll
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(still)

gloomy elbow
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(What Tinkerer said is more accurate!)

tepid loom
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alright, makes sense, which usb sticks should I get to get support for both zigbee, zwave and matter?

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and what would that cost?

winged knoll
gloomy elbow
hollow pier
tepid loom
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I meant thread

winged knoll
tepid loom
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sorry

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thank you

winged knoll
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Thread probably doesn't want a stick - but they can explain

tepid loom
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I'm trying to use the skyconnect with thread right now, so I can connect a device over matter. However it's giving me an error saying: can't connect to nest-pan-234F

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he did have a nest previously that didn't work, so I'm guessing it was previously connected to that device

winged knoll
tepid loom
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yeah sorry

round cape
golden thorn
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Most of them, yeah. It's just my opinion though.

rugged cosmos
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hi all, is a Samsung Galaxy Tab A (2019) good for Fully kiosk?

agile loom
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welp the fan I want has a reverse switch so I guess I will justg do that twice an year

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So, espresence, how far away it detects presence/people?

violet hull
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I'm not finding anything on how to integrate or re-flash a wifi thermostat - the T721 by Pro1/Vive.
Anyone have any pointers on whether this can be integrated?
It has wifi but requires a dedicated cloud-connected app to interface with it...🤮

crystal oxide
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My raspberry pi keeps disconnecting from network for like few minutes randomly but it's on a wired connection how is it loosing connection on a wired one

slim lagoon
rustic musk
winged knoll
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Pi3 will work, but all the existing warnings apply

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(at least, the 3b will, the 3a won't)

hollow pier
hollow pier
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Then I would buy a Thin Client, Chromebox or mini pc if you can find that under €30

winged knoll
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Second hand i5 laptop with a busted screen is likely to be cheap

mortal mica
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ive been trying to get network storage to work for a while now and havent had much luck. I have 2 ways that I've been trying, first is via a USB drive thats connected to my PC and the other way is via my HTPC which houses Plex and my movies/tv/music. Im using HA green, i have samba share setup. I checked and both main pcs have SMB/CIFS enabled and running.

However every time I try and connect the drive, i get invalid permissions. I'm probably doing something very wrong so could use a little active guidance.

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2024-08-30 13:28:34.656 homeassistant kernel: CIFS: Attempting to mount //192.168.1.2/Test
2024-08-30 13:28:34.662 homeassistant mount[13635]: mount error(13): Permission denied
2024-08-30 13:28:34.662 homeassistant mount[13635]: Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) and kernel log messages (dmesg)
2024-08-30 13:28:34.666 homeassistant systemd[1]: mnt-data-supervisor-mounts-HA_Backups.mount: Mount process exited, code=exited, status=32/n/a
2024-08-30 13:28:34.666 homeassistant systemd[1]: mnt-data-supervisor-mounts-HA_Backups.mount: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
2024-08-30 13:28:34.666 homeassistant kernel: CIFS: VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13
2024-08-30 13:28:34.667 homeassistant systemd[1]: Failed to mount Supervisor cifs mount: HA_Backups.```
molten zodiac
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Making progress with my setup. I have a mini PC shown here which is running Debian 12 as a host and I have virtual box running with HAOS and all seems to be working well so far.
Now I just need to get some more smart devices and sensors that work with this.

I have a zigbee dongle connected so I'm going to try and get devices which use that.

I have placed this under my computer desk next to my philips hue hub which I will probably stop using once I pair those devices with the zigbee dongle.

I might try and change out the ethernet cables with shorter ones as it is a bit of a mess currently.

They are connected to a tplink powerline adapter which provides ethernet access to my router at the other end of the building over the electrical system.

crystal oxide
winged knoll
glacial oracle
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The whole hub is rated like a single port

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There isn't a whole lot of power budget left to power longish cable runs

molten zodiac
winged knoll
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"only"

molten zodiac
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I will rephrase. Thank you for pointing it out and making me aware. I will put it into consideration to improve in the near future when I find I am not getting enough range out of it.

It will do for the time being though as I have a very small area to cover for now and it is positioned besides a door in the middle of the full area.

cold moon
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fun analogy: someone just told you your bucket has a hole in it and water is spilling out and you said thx looks good to me while it was pouring onto your shoes

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oh god tp link powerline plus hue bridge right next to it

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all kinds of not-ideal going on for such a tidy picture

molten zodiac
# cold moon fun analogy: someone just told you your bucket has a hole in it and water is spi...

Okay maybe I will look a bit closer into it. I just remembered I had an old extension lead for a WiFi adapter I used to use some years ago sitting in a drawer. I'll try that and prop it up on my desk above. Although then it will be right next to my main PC wifi adapter so still not ideal.

Unfortunately my whole set up is not ideal because I don't own my router or have direct access to it. I can only use it. It was a struggle to get permission to run a powerline set up to it. I wouldn't be able to put all this equipment directly in the room with it.

I plan to move locations in a couple years so I will be redoing it all then anyway. This is working fine for now and I will probably get rid of the hue hub if this zigbee stick works for my hue lights

glacial oracle
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If it works to operate it works.

molten zodiac
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I'm learning. Only just started with all this. Moving away from alexa everything gradually

glacial oracle
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It's not like any of this would be a time bomb failing in this regard. It doesn't include a raspberry pi XD

molten zodiac
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Yeah exactly.
I've also disabled the wifi mode on the tplink and the minipc so both are only running via ethernet but the electrical system does add huge latency and signal loss. I get better over WiFi. But for me it's more about security, keeping it local and everything is responding more than fast enough with this set up.

molten zodiac
glacial oracle
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The power line ratings are usually full of lies in general

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Anything that doesn't advertise multi gibt speed generally just comes with 100mbps ports

molten zodiac
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I originally got it for connecting a vr headset wirelessly to my main PC with a direct connection via ethernet but it was limiting my Internet speeds so hard.

glacial oracle
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For that it works, but it's something in general to keep your eyes open for

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Like this drawback happens even on three digit $ sets

molten zodiac
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This is the best I can do. Still not amazing interference wise but surely better

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Another messy cable to add to the mix now though. Definitely need to get shorter ones to tidy it up a little. Cable management is not my strong suit lol.

outer stirrup
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So I'm currently using Home Assistant Blue as my hardware but I'm increasingly relying on Frigate and quickly running out of CPU... Anyone have a really good experience with a pwoerful hardware platform they recommend?

winged knoll
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There's others if you scroll up

outer stirrup
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Thanks Tinkerer. So if I buy a PC like the one you linked to, what is the installation experience? Did you put Ubuntu on it or is there a supervised image I can install?

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Like do I have to setup Docker myself?

winged knoll
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You flash HAOS

outer stirrup
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So overall same experience as using Home Assistant Blue?

native pilot
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You have more options for install (bare metal or virtualized using something like proxmox), and way more power— otherwise yes.

mortal mica
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anyone good with basic windows shared drives and setting up HA storage? i cannot figure out what im doing wrong lol

drifting mulch
hollow pier
golden thorn
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It doesn't look not right. Very low temperature though.

glacial oracle
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Yea that's more like how it should look

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Not that it not looking like this would be bad, but that's what you should expect in terms of seeing stuff

crystal oxide
glacial oracle
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There is not a whole lot that we can guess

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Check if the temps if that unit are within a recommended range

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Those outages look like they last for minutes

strong zenith
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Hello folks! I've been working on a local integration for Carrier Infinity thermostats. I've got it mostly functioning, but I keep running into network issues on the thermostat. The device randomly stops being able to receive packets from anywhere and gets "stuck". It's still connected to wifi (see it on the access point status page) and is able to send packets (I see UDP requests coming in).

So far, I've twiddled some options on the Unifi AP to no avail. I'm attempting to slow down responses being sent back, but there's rarely anything being sent larger than 1 Ethernet packet (1500 bytes).

I'm looking for ways to debug/resolve these intermittent disconnections.

last bane
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Guys . Who have raspberry pi 5 & ssd 2.5 .. I need your recommendation for ssd + sata to usb cable .. also I want to run it 24/7 without any issues like sd card getting baked after 4/5 months .

Please tag me for reply

round cape
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What's better and why? Home Assistant SkyConnect or sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb dongle plus?

round cape
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SSD are quicker and more reliable than an SD card.

last bane
sinful whale
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Hey folks, I am in a situation where I found (and bought lol) a new home (small house) in "rough construction" state and I am about to meet the construction company on Monday to plan the next steps. Normally I would do my research but this happened so fast and there is no way I could "learn and understand" everything in less than 2 days (I am balls deep in all of the docs, howtos, videos, .. my head is about to explode).
Is there someone who could answer some questions, mostly regarding hardware for light switches, power plugs for HA integration and maybe few more things?
I am an IT guy with network background so network-related stuff is clear to me (i will handle the LAN/WLAN myself, i have home lab and TrueNAS server, where i plan to install HA once EletricEel is relased, ...). But the electric part is a bit confusing.

cold moon
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you can also pretty much do anything under the sun since you're using home assistant. such as literally not connecting a traveler wire and instead using a smart bulb and switches in smart bulb mode. there's lots of ways to get around physical wiring limitations and still do what you want

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i assume this house is in the usa?

sinful whale
cold moon
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nvm i have no suggestions good luck sir

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you guys get real weird with it over there

sinful whale
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Yea, sorry, forgot to mention this little "fact"

cold moon
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your only good options for smart light switches are made and designed in china (in my opinion much worse quality than designed in usa / eu and produced in china)

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most likely you'll end up buying a lot of aqara zigbee 3.0 gear

sinful whale
cold moon
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people either love shelly or think they start fires

sinful whale
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Zigbee is the second brand I saw as well, a bit pricey tbh