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glacial oracle
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the issue mostly is the battery powered nature and the exposure to elements

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you could probably go and buy one of those aquara th&t sensors, mount it in a place where its somewhat hidden from madness and have it be not battery powered

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alternatively anything that has a dedicated temp probe will work

winged knoll
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I've stuck one under the eaves and it's survived the winter, but it's been relatively mild here this year (down to about 0F only once)

glacial oracle
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-18c is mild 😮

winged knoll
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Well, I'd expect it to get down around there more than once

eager mantle
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Hmm. Could maybe make my own with a Raspberry Pi. There’s a bunch of old weather station guides on the internet.

eager mantle
glacial oracle
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making your own is fairly simple

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just be aware that sensors that are "waterproof" likely are not ^^

eager mantle
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When the listing says ā€œrequires Aquara hub, not support hubs from other brandsā€ is that not concerning to anyone? I’ve heard a few other recommendations for Aquara products.

glacial oracle
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that depends on the product

winged knoll
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Zigbee stuff is pretty universal

glacial oracle
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i think the presence sensor may need it for some configuration things if i recall

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not sure if i remember this right

winged knoll
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the FP1 doesn't, but that's Zigbee

eager mantle
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Aqara thermometer is $15 on Amazon rn, so I went ahead and bought it despite winter being almost over.

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I could use it in an area away from my main thermostat for now or something. I have an idea where I can put it that would protect it from the elements though. Eventually, I’ll probably create my own raspberry pi based system.

cold moon
tender jewel
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Im probably just tired and grumpy, but how do I add my v1 hue dimmer switches into HA

cold moon
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You add them to a zigbee mesh

gusty onyx
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recommend me a esphome smart plug for US please, link to amazon or alixpress

hollow axle
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I'm looking to setup a temp/humidity sensor in a few rooms. Is there a benefit to using a full esp32 vs the esp8266 which is cheaper and people seem to usually use.

Also, how are these sensors for doing this?

3PCS BME280 3.3V Atmospheric Pressure Sensor GY-BME280-3.3 Temperature Humidity Sensor Module for Arduino https://a.co/d/i4XHGCw

ACEIRMC 4pcs Si7021 GY-21 SHT21 HTU21 Digital Humidity Temperature Sensor Module Replace SHT11 SHT15 https://a.co/d/bi6rx8A

I also planned on using it for Bluetooth presence sensor.

weak basalt
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Hi, how can i find what type of CPU do i have? šŸ˜„ on HA instance

outer knotBOT
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Open your Home Assistant instance and show hardware information

golden thorn
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Might show up there.

weak basalt
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Yup i started from there, but only can know its 4 core cpu. Want to remember i3 or i5 and what type :/

golden thorn
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I'd run lscpu or cat /proc/cpuinfo on a normal OS. Try if that works in SSH. Can't test myself right now.
You can also check the BIOS/UEFI if it's a normal PC.

weak basalt
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cat /proc/cpuinfo worked, thanks šŸ™‚

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hmm, not much hardware knowledge. Always though i5 is better than i3 :/
6200U vs 6100T seems as same year cpus, but i3 is faster because its for desktop and i5 laptop model?

gilded nest
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Is it possible to use HA to manage TP-Link switch LED behavior or do I have to use the app?

weary stump
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Posted in general but was told this would be a better section to post this question...

I have a kitchen light fixture on two 3-way switches. Both will be wifi switches, Lutron Caseta. I want to control a led wifi controller using those switches so whenever the kitchen fixture is on, so is the led strip. Not sure how this would work with 3 way switches since they aren't really in an on/off position.

fringe crater
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Oh I did not realize you already had switches picked out, I thought you were looking for recommendations to buy switches. Do you already have them integrated?

weary stump
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I do have another light fixture with two 3-way switches (1 smart and 1 sumb). I was going to do some testing on that first

gilded nest
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Has anyone seen an integration to the Hunter Fan simpleConnect?

weary stump
gilded nest
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I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to do. Does the LED strip only come on with one of the switches?

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Wait, I reread the description

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You essentially want the led strip to come on when the kitchen light comes on, right?

weary stump
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I have two switches controlling one light fixture right now (currently all dumb). I am installing under cabinet led strips with a wifi controller using wled. I want to control the led strip with those two switches to turn the led strip on and off when the kitchen light is on and off

weary stump
gilded nest
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All you need is an automation binding the 2 together. Use 1 X 3 way smart switch and 1 dumb 3 way.

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The dumb switch should set the state in the smart switch and you can use that to see when it's on

fringe crater
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Really you will need to figure out how Caseta integration handles this specifically.

gilded nest
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and then turn on the strip

fringe crater
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Maybe you get a PressUp/PressDown event on either switch, maybe there's one entity for the combination of the three way circuit being on/off, I do not know.

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I can be pretty sure it's not represented as two switch entities with on/off state, that wouldn't make sense.

weary stump
gilded nest
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@weary stump Do you have a 3 way caseta with dumb switch now?

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I will do a test, hang on

weary stump
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Dimmer Caseta but still the same

gilded nest
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Can you test something? Turn the light off from the smart switch then use the dumb switch to turn it on. Then look at your at your overview and see if the smart switch state is correct. It should be on.

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It it is, as I suspect, then the state wil be on and you can use that to trigger your LED using an automation

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Dimmer doesn't matter, as long as it's a properly installed 3 way

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Let me know if thats the case then I can help you with automation

weary stump
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Ok so it seems to be ok. I made an automation for when family room light is on, led is on. Made another for family room light is off, led is off. Switching the dumb switch on turns the family room light on and also the toggle I have in overview for that light, then it turns the led strip on

gilded nest
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Awesome.

weary stump
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I think it works as I want. But my only issue is it takes a few seconds for HA to register the switch position change so it takes a few seconds for the led strip to turn on and off

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Not a big deal but would like it to be less of a delay

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Is that possible?

gilded nest
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Mine are instant. Is Casetta known for speed?

royal aspen
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I am having issues with installing my SkyConnect (HA install is in docker(compose)) Which channel is best to ask for support?

weary stump
gilded nest
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@weary stump Is the delay caused by the automation? When the light is off and you use the slave (dumb) switch to turn on the light how long until the status changes? If it's fast, the issue is in the automation

weary stump
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Just tested with the Lutron app and can confirm 3 to 4 second delay

gilded nest
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Let me test mine, hang on a few minutes

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I have about a 1 second delay. I just realized that TP link gives you 2 switches for a dimmer 3 way. Is that how yours work?

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If so you are in luck

weary stump
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It seems like it is the switch sending info to the hub but not the other way around. If I turn the physical switch on or off, there is a 4 second delay with the lutron app and HA to show the switch being on or off. If I use the app or HA to turn the switch on or off, there is no delay

gilded nest
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Is the one you are testing a dimmer?

weary stump
weary stump
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The kitchen won't be a dimmer though

gilded nest
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Hang on looking at the switch

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You said casetta 3 way right?

weary stump
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That is what I will have in the kitchen

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Oh wait, I forgot the dimmer isn't caseta it is diva

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So Diva is what I'm using right now for testing. Caseta (not dimmer) will be what I am actually using in the kitchen

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It sounds like it is the lutron hub that is the issue

gilded nest
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So it looks like they basically did away with the dumb switch. You get 1 3 way master, and the slave is baically a remote so you don't need a traveller. Is that correct?

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If so, you should have near instant response.

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Here is what I was looking at

weary stump
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I believe you can set it up that way but you can also set it up with a dumb switch too

gilded nest
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Mine are setup smart and dumb 3 way so I do have a 1 second state reporting delay

weary stump
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In my family room, the one I'm using for testing right now, I have the Diva on one side and my old dumb toggle style on the other

gilded nest
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That will be slow

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The switch with remote, should be fast

weary stump
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Does the dumb toggle switch slow down the smart switch?

gilded nest
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Yes

weary stump
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If I made the dumb toggle switch a smart switch too, would that speed it up?

gilded nest
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When you use the dumb switch, the smart switch needs a few moments to recognize the state.

weary stump
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But when I use the smart switch itself, it is also slow.

gilded nest
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Answer is yes but you can go with the kit I showed you. The fact that the slave is hjust a remote, it should set the state instantly

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Oh wait a minute! Thats another story

weary stump
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Yeah, using either switch has the same delay...I'll test again hold on

gilded nest
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So when you use the light dircetly, it takes 2-4 seconds to report the correct state on the App?

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Do you have any other automations on the switch you're testing?

weary stump
gilded nest
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Aha

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Any automations on it?

weary stump
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No, only thing I have is a toggle within HA overview so I can turn it on and off using my google hub screen

gilded nest
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Lets do this. Go to any regular casetta light switch with no automation, toggle it and see how long it takes to update status

weary stump
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I could also remove the automation from my diva right now

gilded nest
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Casetta's are spendy but good. I suspect that there is soemthing else going on, such as an automation or other

weary stump
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But I would think the HA automation wouldn't impact the Lutron app

gilded nest
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It would.

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The issue is when you toggle the device, it will run through the automation regardless.

weary stump
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So if I delete the two WLED automations, that should be a good test, right?

gilded nest
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Does the automation run of you triggr from the Lutron app?

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Yes that would be a good test

weary stump
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The led automation I just set up runs off the switch

gilded nest
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If that speeds things up, the issue is with how you wrote the automation script

weary stump
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I just used an And If set up

gilded nest
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What we are trying to test is whether the swicth or automation is slow.

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I would not write it that way

weary stump
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Deleted the two automations and still slow showing in the lutron app

weary stump
gilded nest
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I just integrated a 4 button leviton scene controller switch and I used a trigger and devices to turn on off. No and

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You can use the visual editor, I can help you walk through it. But the point is removing the automation didn't help much, right? What delay do you get when you toggle the actual swicth itself?

weary stump
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Correct, deleting the two automations (wled on and wled off) did not make the delay any better.

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Both smart and dumb switches I get 3 to 4 second delay showing on the app

gilded nest
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Did you buy the switch new? How old is it?

weary stump
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Yes new from HD. Year or two

gilded nest
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Did you update the firmware using the Lutron app?

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Can you give me the light switch model?

weary stump
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Didn't even think about an update through Lutron. One was available...updating now

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The Diva is DVRF-6L-WH-R

gilded nest
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I need to leave in a few minutes. let me know if the speed imrpoved after the update.

gilded nest
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I will stick around until update is done. Curious to see why that switch is so slow.

weary stump
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60%

gilded nest
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Standing by

weary stump
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80%

upper yoke
weary stump
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Only when going from light to app but when turning the light on through the app it is instant

gilded nest
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Damn, should not be that slow, maybe someone else can help out. DO you have a lot of lutron switches?

weary stump
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Might just need to look into a different switch if I don't want this delay

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No just this one

gilded nest
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I highly recommend the TP-Link ones. Thye even have matter compatability on a few of them.

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Also on sale on amazon and SUPER affordable. They have been recommended by a lot of the smart home guys.

weary stump
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I'll take a look at them. I really like the look of the Lutron ones but not a huge deal.

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Would I need a TP Link hub?

gilded nest
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Before you do that, ask someon in the forum to help you diagnose the issue and confirm it IS the switch. Would suck to replace it and you find out it's another issue. Cheers and good luck!

weary stump
cold moon
royal aspen
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hello
Im quite struggling with getting my skyconnect up and running. I am using docker compose to run HA, but when approaching the hardware in HA and i click on configure skyconnect i get: The hardware options can only be configured on HassOS installations.
But i am sure people got it running through docker. The HA server does see the sky connect usb, hence the notification i cannot configure it..
Can somebody help me out?

outer steppe
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Random question for you lot: I have an ecobee smart premium, which has a microphone and speaker built in for siri/alexa. Am i able to integrate this into HA voice assistant without breaking the thermostat function?

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also, does anyone know if it's zigbee/zwave compatible? It's compatible via smartthings and homekit, but i'm not seeing any info on zigbee/zwave

cold moon
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No idea on microphone part

outer steppe
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it does, i can play music throgh the speaker (freaks my boyfriend tf out lmao)

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i have an option to mute the mic

cold moon
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The room sensors are technically zwave but only work with the ecobee itself I believe

outer steppe
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got it okay

cold moon
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You’d lose the microphone and media player over HomeKit I believe

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You can test and let me know I’m curious. I have the older 3 lite model

outer steppe
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i have it integrated via homekit integration over wifi, disconnected from ecobee servers.

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does still play media via media integration in HA

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can still mute the thermostat. not sure if it's actually seeing the microphone or just the option to turn it off

cold moon
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Nice thx

outer steppe
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i don't see that the ecobee 3 Lite has a speaker/mic tho

cold moon
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Nope

outer steppe
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so not sure if it would be helpful for you sorry lol

cold moon
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That’s why I was curious on your results lol

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Yea I know what my model does just wanted extra info for my brain about yours

outer steppe
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oooh okok

weary stump
cold moon
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I wouldn’t recommend Wi-Fi light switches

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Not many would

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Depending on where you live and features needed / $ id buy zooz zwave or inovelli blue zigbee

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And pair them with smart bulbs if you want color temp and rgb/w

weary stump
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Just saw inovelli blue are back in stock. I was holding off to get those for a long time and got tired of waiting which is why I went with Lutron.

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I don't have anything besides wifi but I do have the zigbee usb stick for HA

cold moon
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They’re apparently amazing. I have and like zooz zwave light switches cuz I couldn’t justify double the cost for inovelli and the blues had firmware issues for a long time and I was holding back for that to get fixed too

cold moon
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Although hue bulbs are also great at this

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You can then bind hue bulbs to the inovellis so if hass is down light switches still work and then you still get rgbw fun for the bulbs

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So future proofing in a way

weary stump
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Most of my switches go to canless pucks so the bulbs aren't much of a worry for me. I do have a few bulbs upstairs in lamps controlled by the lamp, not a switch

cold moon
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The rgb light bar on the inovelli switches themselves is often used as a status light for something like alarm system arm status or door lock status

weary stump
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Oh yeah, zooz is half the cost

cold moon
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I really like this thing for alarm control too. Ring but connected over zwave

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It looks better in not shit lighting

terse pebble
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I'm using thst one too and I'm quite happy with it.

cold moon
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I have literally zero complaints

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I haven’t tried the other chimes yet

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I think there’s a sea shanty in there

weary stump
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I don't have an alarm system. Do you use it for anything besides that?

cold moon
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Well you make your own alarm system with alarmo and your favorite door and window sensors

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Which would connect to your zigbee or zwave mesh made from those light switches

weary stump
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Oh very cool

cold moon
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It’s very simple and thoroughly thought out

weary stump
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The inovelli blue worth double the price?

cold moon
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I’m still ironing out the kinks

cold moon
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Apparently the switches themselves feel nicer to click when pushed in

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And the led bar like I said above looks very nice irl

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Zooz is a tiny little rectangle

weary stump
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Right now I have 1 Lutron in and another ready to be put in. I'll be adding maybe 5 or 6 more. Maybe I'll go with inovelli. If I were to replace them all, I'd go zooz for the price savings.

cold moon
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I do have and like the zooz zen30 double switch

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5 buttons each with 1-5x tap, hold, long hold, etc with lights that can be synced to other things in home assistant like door lock status

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I have each button and multi taps doing different things

cold moon
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They send you white paddles installed plus the black to replace so worth getting one to test imo

weary stump
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I have yet to add anything zigbee. It sounds like it is easy to do

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Yeah I like those but I'd probably have to replace all switches and outlets

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Might look weird having half white and half black

cold moon
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Just something to consider

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Worth the $8 to prove yourself right or wrong

outer steppe
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so i did a bit of fiddling

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the thermostat speaker is only seen through the music assistant add-on, which i couldn't figure out why for a while

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turns out it's discovered via airplay

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now i get to try and find an airplay integration to try and add speaker/mic ig lmao

cold moon
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Err nvm

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That adds airplay sound to non airplay devices like chromecast enabled devices

outer steppe
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hmm i see

torpid sierra
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I have seen a lot of really nice switches come out since getting into Lutron, I was just way to far in to try them out...

cold moon
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Proprietary bridges ain’t it chief

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With that being said I believe they’re local only integrated and ā€˜just work’

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Sunk cost fallacy as far as buying further into it tho

torpid sierra
# cold moon Proprietary bridges ain’t it chief

When I first started down this journey, Lutron was the best option for me at the time. As for sunk cost...I am basically as deep as I will get. all of the rooms I need automated are covered. Maybe 1 or 2 others would be convenient, but havent had much of a need.

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I did pop in here to learn some more about recommendations for RGB strip lighting, Specifically assignable strips that I could use for under cabinet lighting. Something that is easy to split to custom lengths and add jumpers to. And then what controls those?

cold moon
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Cheap easy start is athom esp32 controller running wled + ws2812b 60/m ip30 + 5amp 5v psu + aluminum channels with diffusers + 18/3 led wire + jst-sm 3 pin

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I need to redo it but it’s decent

torpid sierra
cold moon
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Watch Quindor’s videos on YouTube or his site for detailed explanations on all the things

torpid sierra
outer steppe
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more updates: was able to use appletv to discover the thermostat as a media player, still seeing the mute switch. not seeing the microphone tho

cold moon
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It sucks to go long distances on 5v tho

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I’ll be replacing with these strips most likely

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Or at least 12v like ws2814

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You probably will want rgbw like sk6812 for dedicated white channel tho

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Whites will look better not created from r g b

torpid sierra
cold moon
cold moon
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I just vacuum regularly and brush dog outside

weary stump
weary stump
cold moon
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It’s not just that the aluminum dissipates heat to lengthen the life of the leds

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Thehookup has a YouTube video showing the differences in channels including depth differences I’d watch that

weary stump
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Have you played around with under cabinet ones? Wonder if straight down would be best or maybe 45°

cold moon
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Did you not see my video above?

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Scroll up

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This is what I do

weary stump
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I did but I can't see what type of diffuser you use. Oh I didn't see that pic

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Where did you get that little project box? I need one for the dig2analog I'm using

cold moon
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They take a lot of light away I need to upgrade my shit

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It’s an esp8266 in a tiny 3d printed case

weary stump
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What makes one LED Diffuser channel better than another? Color, thickness, depth, and mounting solutions are ALL important and in my testing there were two CLEAR winners.

Best LED Density (60 LEDs/m): https://amzn.to/3Ze2P3U
Best Overall Diffuser (Shallow Aluminum + Tented Diffuser): https://amzn.to/3C7p2VP
Most "Spotless" Diffuser (Deep Alumin...

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cold moon
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Syncing across kitchen to dig quad controller for rest of kitchen

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You can buy silica gel or silicone based ones too

weary stump
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Do you know if they make a digital CCT strip that can go through the k temps?

cold moon
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I’ll be replacing the ws2812b inside with 24v fcob eventually so it looks better

weary stump
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I'm using an analog cct cob strip and it has been a pain to get everything working. I want an easier solution, and digital seems like the way to go, but don't know if whites come out as good

cold moon
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So Yesnt

dusty saddle
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merhaba bana mqtt ile ilgili yardım etme imkanı olabilen birisi varmı ?

cold moon
dusty saddle
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oky

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I'm having trouble installing the Mosquitto broker Home Assistant Add-on.

weary stump
cold moon
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Cool

acoustic yoke
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has anybody set up a door closure system for an internal bedroom door that is tied into HA? If so, could you share what hardware you used and how it communicates?

lyric mortar
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I have four heating zones in my house (old house that was added on to multiple times through the years). If I want to make all my thermostats ā€œsmartā€, would people recommend replacing each zone’s thermostat with a smart one (and controlling each via HA separately), or is there some better way to do it that I haven’t thought of (maybe controlling the flow hot water to radiators / baseboard heaters at the source or something? Not sure what else would be possible besides four smart thermostats.)

outer steppe
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any ideas on how to get a airplay microphone to pull through to HA?

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no luck on my end, got the speaker added and the mic switch but no mic

outer steppe
lyric mortar
outer steppe
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then yes, four thermostats would probably be the easiest

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there might be a way add a smart valve to restrict water flow to specific radiators, def smart switches for baseboard heaters

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you can usually find ecobee thermostats on marketplace for somewhere between $30-130, depending on model. there are other smart thermostats to consider as well, I know the Honeywell Pro9 is zwave(?) compatible

lyric mortar
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Thanks for those tips! I picked up an Ecobee for cheap from my utility provider actually and am going to start with that and one zone. A little worried because the thermostats for several zones are extremely old (mid-century), but we’ll see! Thanks again.

outer steppe
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I'm not positive, but there may be a way to wire the multiple zones to the one ecobee thermostat. I know that it has the ability to control multiple systems and there's likely a way with home assistant to control different systems based on different temperature sensor readings

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ecobee says no, each zone is independent

old sinew
old sinew
cold moon
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I made a soundbar mount with downlighting

old sinew
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That's nice. Where was the driver

old sinew
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or analog jam door switch

weary stump
cyan flint
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Can anyone recommend some hardwired RGB light strips that work with Home Assistant? I want to be able to control the brightness and change the colors with Home Assistant.

I looked into Philips Hue, but I couldn't find any hardwired kits. There's a company named Armacost Lighting that makes some light stips that are hardwired, but I'm not sure if I can get them to work with Home Assistant.

I'm in the US, I have no protocol preference, and I don't have any budget restrictions.

Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.

cold moon
cyan flint
quaint yacht
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Did you ever find a solution to this?

tepid heart
old sinew
# cyan flint Can anyone recommend some hardwired RGB light strips that work with Home Assista...

White temp accuracy is about wavelength accuracy really, worked as a lighting designer for years. So I'm super sensitive to color accuracy. I find the W/WW addition helps with mixing. But then again, also comes down to how great of diodes/binning you pay for. "Pure white" IMO is an illusion, since it's dependent on your surroundings color reflections and available light (specifically) to eye rods and cones including external light such as sunlight. In a known environment design for perception only, it's like sound quality for audiofiles 🄳

outer steppe
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still looking for any ideas y'all might have for integrating an airplay microphone into HA. AppleTV appears to be a bust

drifting grove
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Hi, I'm still rather new to HA and just got my green set up and running. I now want/need to add Bluetooth functionality. Anyhow, all USB dongles listed here: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/bluetooth/ are currently not / hardly available (I'm located in Europe) and quite frankly father old (BT version seems to be 4.x for all listed devices).

Which BT 5.4 (or at least 5.x) dongle can I use if I don't want to resolve to using ESP32 to add BT functionality to my HA green?

Home Assistant

Discover, connect, and monitor bluetooth devices.

winged knoll
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#bluetooth-archived can better answer that, but those adapters are the known good ones, buying something newer isn't going to be better šŸ˜‰

weary stump
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@gilded nest I ordered a Pico Remote Control for testing. I connected it to my smart dinner in my family room. When I hit the dimmer, there is still a 4 second delay between light turning on and the Lutron app recognizing the light is on. However, when I hit the Pico Remote Control, it is almost instant. So I'm 99% sure this is just how the Lutron Caseta ecosystem works. Now I just need to figure out if I want to keep with it and be ok with the delay or switch to Inovelli. I was ready to switch to Inovelli yesterday but this Pico remote is pretty cool. Looks exactly like the regular switches and it can be mounted in a box instead of a switch (replace the dumb switch in a 3 way) or wall mount it anywhere and it will look like it is a regular installed switch

drifting grove
winged knoll
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That doesn't change the fact that newer isn't necessarily better

gilded nest
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Try TP-Link matter swicthes. The non matter stuff also works well. Very affordable and work instantly.

lyric mortar
lyric mortar
pliant forum
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They do have zwave remotes though similar to Picos if that is the route you go

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weary stump
native pilot
rustic elk
native pilot
# cold moon I’ll be replacing the ws2812b inside with 24v fcob eventually so it looks better

I just did something similar, the lighting runs down both sides of the stairs with the LEDs pointing across the stair treads, the LEDs wipe on from the direction you enter the stairs. I'm using a time of flight sensor at the top to trigger the lights coming on when descending and an Aqara FP2 to handle presence and the strips turning on when ascending. It's my favorite HA automation by far.

rustic elk
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Okay follow-up question... Anyone have a good suggestion of a zigbee in-wall outlet that does power monitoring? šŸ˜…

Location: USA
Budget: $20ish
Protocol: zigbee preferred
Features: power monitoring, remote control

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Or, how well does kasa integrate with ha?

outer knotBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
cyan flint
native pilot
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I don't think you're going to be able to do that.

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Everything I've seen is 5v or 12v-- which means you need a ac/dc transformer (which I suppose you could hardwire that if you wanted to, but I wouldn't recommend that as you 100% will need to be able to easily power cycle the transformer)

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On my stairs, my garage shares a wall with the stair wall, so in that case the transformer and controller are all in the garage and I ran the 5v through the wall to the start of the LEDs so there is no "bulk" visible inside the house. Can you do anything similar?

native pilot
fringe crater
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Kasa integration is local, not cloud

native pilot
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I guess I misunderstood based on the adoption process then. Thanks!

rustic elk
fringe crater
rustic elk
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Well I'll be damned

worn heart
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I hope this is true, I have around 50 switches/wall outlets I'm about to snag in my first attempt at HA lol

winged knoll
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shockingly it's true...

fringe crater
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tplink is local for HA but it uses kind of a hack that isn't really supported and wasn't intended to be used in that way.
tplink once made some noises about wanting to update firmware to cut off that access, which is why there's some bad distrust around them. They seem to have mostly relented for now though.

gilded nest
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TP link has matter compatible devices. Isn't that local for sure?

cold moon
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any devices requiring polling arent good devices regardless

gilded nest
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Is leviton cloud or local?

winged knoll
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Check the integration docs

gilded nest
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Maybe thats why leviton switches takes 2 - 4 seconds to update their status in the app and TP-Link is instant

cyan flint
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I need some help with led strip lighting that can be used with Home Assistant. Is anyone that's familiar with this available to answer some questions?

worn heart
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I originally pushed into Kasa wall outlets because of their ability to actively monitor power usage -- if there's alternatives to that, which would be better suited for HA -- please send suggestions my way

outer knotBOT
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@cyan flint Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
  4. What's the exact error message?
  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?
gilded nest
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Has anyone succesfully integrated hunter simpleconnect fand into HA?

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I searched for a while but not much luck

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What do you guys think of this humidity sensor? It's homekit so it looks like I can integrate it and use for shutting off bath fan when correct humodity is reached.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07D37FKGY?tag=georiot-ca-default-20&th=1&psc=1&ascsubtag=imore-ca-6609843324754324248-20&geniuslink=true

glacial oracle
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It works just fine, however its Zigbee

gilded nest
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It says homekit compatible, does that mean it still needs a zigbee hub?

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I am going to guess yes

glacial oracle
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That only means that it will be with their hub, its an ordinary zigbee device
You will need a coordinator of some sort, which can be either one of those fancy usb sticks or one of them hubs

gilded nest
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I have an apple hub in my hompod

glacial oracle
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can it talk zigbee?

gilded nest
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Nope

glacial oracle
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then that wont work

gilded nest
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What sesnor would you recommend?

glacial oracle
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the aquara one is pretty decent

gilded nest
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But I don;t have zigbee, nor want it

glacial oracle
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you will have not a great time getting around either zigbee or zwave for sensor devices

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there is a selection of bluetooth ones which might do just fine but i have no details about how those can integrate into your setup

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the original shelly h&t has wifi support but that tends to drain the battery within a week or two, so unless you want to grid connect it thats probably also not the way to go

winged knoll
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Skipping Zigbee will mean you miss out on a lot of affordable devices

gilded nest
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So if add the Tuya integration, wil HA be able to use Zigbee?

glacial oracle
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no

gilded nest
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Its a radio protocol isn't it?

glacial oracle
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you need a zigbee coordinator to talk zigbee to devices

gilded nest
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And there is no HA integration for that? Or is it harware?

glacial oracle
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you effectively will need both, the hardware to do the signaling and an integration, well to integrate it into ha

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common ways would be using zha or z2m for later

gilded nest
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Found this: Zigbee Home Automation) integration
allows you to wirelessly connect many off-the-shelf Zigbee-based devices directly to Home Assistant,

glacial oracle
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for certain stuff like lamps you could theoretically strap it onto another integration with a zigbee hub like hue, but that likely wont work for sensors

gilded nest
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Ok so if I use ZHA, I still need need hardware. I am running everythging off a firewall appliance. I can add one in there

glacial oracle
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it would require one usb port for the device, tho z2m also supports ethernet/poe ones

gilded nest
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Were its going, the zigbee signal will never reach

glacial oracle
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usually people would place multiple grid connected devices throughout their home to create a mesh network which does reach, but for without anything the gap it can bridge varies vastly on interference

gilded nest
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My house has central heating, huge metal ducts everywhere

glacial oracle
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i really cant make any assumptions in that regard

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it can be between "not even leaving the room" to "the whole house no issue"

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its 2.4ghz based so you might make some implications based on your wifi behaviour (but keep in mind the signal is a lot weaker)

gilded nest
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Is the zigbee signal carried on wifi?

glacial oracle
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no

gilded nest
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So it really needs it's own receiver

glacial oracle
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yes

gilded nest
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REally sucks

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Maybe a USB zigby device on my destop on the same floor

glacial oracle
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it uses the same frequency range which got some upsides as its pretty cheapish to do

gilded nest
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It hink its the same frequncy as TPMS sensors

glacial oracle
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you might have better range luck on zwave gear, which should operate around 860-900mhz

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but thats also a lot more pricy

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tpms should be 315-433 if google is to be believed

gilded nest
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Back to the hub. If I plug in a Zigbee dongle in my desktop and the sensors can see it, I am all set, right?

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Or dos it have to be on the machine running HA?

glacial oracle
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it has to be the same machine

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the ethernet/poe ones could be placed anywhere as long as they got a wired network connection

gilded nest
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Ok thanks

gilded nest
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Got the Sonos Zigbee Pro thingy, thanks for the help

glacial oracle
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thats not necessarily a good purchase as its a hub and not a coordinator

worn heart
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First test complete for anybody that plays with Kasa smart outlets
Installed a smart plug (KP200 I think)
I ran Linux other x64 on a VB vm
setup a test acct
Added an integration --> it actually took the TP home as there was only the Kasa simulation available otherwise
It detected the Kasa outlet fine, yanked the internet cable from the modem and the phone app works fine with it still
I'll be setting up a non test instance soon and playing with ways to monitor power now -- we'll see...

torn igloo
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Anyone got any smart air fryers they have integrated with HA?
I'm not sure if I should get the Ninja (no smarts) and use a smart plug, or just get a Cosori with it's built-in wifi an app

I'm looking to control on/off status, program meals, more integrations the better etc

gritty holly
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does anyone know anyone or how to get EVOFW3 to work with an Orcon MVS-15R ventiliation system?

boreal light
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Hi guys. I am sure this has been discussed a lot before so i apologize in advance.

But i am researching a better power(watt/h) use as well as polling rate of atleast under 1 per second.

A monitor and logging solution. I have ordered an arduino with some different sensors to test etc. And currently i have one shelly plug S(i think its a version 2) and am temporarily monitoring it through the shelly app.

But in the mean time i wanna try some off the shelf/off the shelf but flashing firmware type solutions.

For now i will not be upgrading the breakerbox so i am just looking to monitor some devices(a few computers) at the wall socket.

I am in the process of setting up home assistant on a raspberry pi 5 so i am not sure if there is anything i can hook up directly to the raspberry pi(all the PCs, their outlet splitter and the raspberry pi are located next to eachother)

Anyone have any pointers for me?

winged knoll
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Why at least one per second?

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Keep in mind that you'll almost certainly have to use WiFi for connectivity

cold moon
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And that’ll take up 1x1 mimo in perpetuity

junior oxide
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What up! Had a question about best practices when it comes to hardware and mixing brands as someone who is just getting into home automation and HA.
What are people doing with locks when you have multiple outdoor facing doors? Do you shell out more money and get the Encode Plus for your main doors and level locks for your other doors?
Functionally, how is this simplified with HA?
Thanks in advance!

cold moon
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Pro tip: Schlage zwave locks should be avoided like the plague

junior oxide
# cold moon Pro tip: Schlage zwave locks should be avoided like the plague

So what are people recommending. I think that is my biggest hurdle with preparing for this new home we purchased is: I have committed to the idea of Home Assistant and am working to choose devices so once we close I can get to work but there's not great resources when it comes to "these are the best devices, or most recommended devices". It would be nice to have some sort of primer to general list of what that looks like.
I've seen a lot of recommendations for the Encode Plus, and Lutron Caseta switches but aside from that it's the wild west lol

cold moon
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You’re in the right place

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I’d avoid recommendations from YouTubers it’s generally in their best interest to get you to buy anything not the best. All the popular home assistant YouTubers have lots of bad hardware suggestions

boreal light
cold moon
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You need to focus on specific hardware needs then drill down for best brand / model from there. For locks zwave kwikset work great but not the prettiest

boreal light
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Or maybe i didnt lolšŸ˜„

junior oxide
cold moon
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It is what it is

native pilot
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I have Yale Zwave locks-- overall I've been pretty happy with them.

rare tinsel
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What brand and model smart lightbulbs do folks recommend for Home Assistant?

I am looking for a specific function, which is for our outdoor (enclosed) front porch light to be able to turn on at dusk and off at dawn (or some other programmed time). I'd like it to RGB so I can set it to fun colors for Halloween or other times, but usually I'd keep it warm-cool white. I have wifi, z-wave and bluetooth devices currently working with my HA. Thanks

native pilot
rose zealot
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Hi everyone. I am a newbie in smart home. I only have a few of them but I want to get into the world. I have several external and a few internal cameras that I want to use as well. Right now, I don't have any old machine to test HA, so I need to go directly to a purchase. I was thinking the HA Green or Yellow but with the cameras, it might not work properly. In my android box, the live stream is laggy. So I guess I Green/Yellow and any RasPI won't work nice. An alternative is a mini PC which I found as a refurbished with i5 and 8GB RAM, which would be ok I guess. Or then I take the leap of faith and go to synology NAS which will have 4-5 times the cost šŸ˜› On the other side, I am concerned about the power consuption.. What do you suggest?

glacial oracle
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Well the Synology is a save purchase option if you primarily need a proper nas

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The + models with Intel CPUs should all be able to run docker / a vm which could be leveraged by homeassistant

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The USB passthrough may however be a bit more luck based but nothing that can't be figured out

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If you don't need the nas aspect any* old refurb will run it aswell but possibly even a bit better

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Power consumption wise both don't take anything really. You would want to look into minipcs like the n100 based beelink

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Those are priced somewhere in between but with better efficiency

rose zealot
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Hmm beelink jumps a lot from 100€ to 270€ for me. I don't need a NAS now, but maybe I could use it for backups and plex maybe. But a miniPC will only be used for HA. Do you think there are other mini pcs similar to that but in a more acceptable price?

glacial oracle
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You could check ones with N4/5xxx CPUs but those are not really powerful by any means

golden thorn
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The cheapest are (at least for me) used SFF or USFF PCs.

glacial oracle
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For those you may however want to ask at your works it department

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Buying decade old gear for $$$ could end up being cheaper that way (because they may not want that much money for stuff they throw away)

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(or if you don't mind checking local recycling facilities)

golden thorn
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You might pay it in electricity. My oldest server is intel gen 4. I would not recommend something older. 6th gen or newer is a good compromise.

glacial oracle
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Yea it's a trade

rose zealot
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then the refurbished I had in mind is definitely not a good choice šŸ˜›

golden thorn
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I once had a Core2Duo machine that used 60W just idling. My 4th and 6th gens do 15-18W. N100s can go to 6W. Just for a comparison. It's more than just the CPU but these pre-builds are usually made to be energy efficient and have fewer components so they can be roughly compared like that.

rose zealot
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on the other hand, if I go on HA Green or Yellow, do you think that it can handle live stream for camera? It's not that I am gonna have it 24h but some times, I work from my desk and have the cameras next to me to watch the kids

glacial oracle
golden thorn
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I believe it was a E8400.

glacial oracle
golden thorn
rose zealot
golden thorn
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That's not what I meant. With a (U)SFF PC you can upgrade CPU, memory, add PCI-E cards, virtualize (run more than just HAOS) and whatever else you desire. Mini PCs can't be upgraded that much but are also a good option and usually use less power.

rose zealot
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it's the first time I heard about SFF but when I google it in my country's results, the cheapest is around 550-600€

glacial oracle
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Used tech is good tech

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The bits don't wear out

rose zealot
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does that sound ok or I am looking at the wrong place?

golden thorn
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I paid 50€ or so for mine but prices are different depending on your location.

golden thorn
golden thorn
jagged crypt
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"lenovo tiny" is another search phrase

golden thorn
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I just use the eBay category.

rose zealot
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I can find a m910q at around 150€ which sounds good. Just need to check power consumption

jagged crypt
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my i5-6500t + ssd + 16gigs of ram with proxmox, running HA as a guest, and another low cpu guest, averages 15-17watts idle

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boot up is 45 watts for a few minutes

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from last year usage

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no frigate/cameras on my HA install

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newer doesn't neccesarily mean more wattage either

golden thorn
rose zealot
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are my calculations correct? Even if I consumes 50 watts all the time, it will be around 440 kWh per year. With the price of 0.12€/kwh in my country, it will be around 50-55€/year

A HA green/yellow will be around 10-15€/year. But I will be limited on HA only.

jagged crypt
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you won't consume 50 watts all the time, you'll consume less than that.

golden thorn
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Much less. From a quick search the M910Q can go down to 6W as well. The green as low as 1.7W.

cold moon
cold moon
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What country are you in again

rose zealot
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the problem with the beelink is that I cannot find them less than 250€ (n100).

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I am in Greece

cold moon
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Ah ok

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Well for e 150 vs e250 I guess the lenovo or similar used mini pc will be the better buy

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And above you searched sff which isn’t the same as usff

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But the more popular term is mini pc but doesn’t really matter

golden thorn
cold moon
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Also the green or pi will be running at much higher % load than a mini pc

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So given what’s actually running on each it’s very similar in end result of power consumption

rose zealot
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Hmm, I will see if I can find any n100, cheaper from somewhere else. If not, then I will go with a lenovo mini pc.

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Thanks a lot everyone. I might bother you again if I find something nice. Soon

jagged crypt
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at a certain point you are comparing 50 or 10 euros to management and configuration ease also šŸ™‚

cold moon
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Word

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But then spending extra $50 for new gen tech makes sense too

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And bam e250

rose zealot
cold moon
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It’s the same mini pc being sold at a markup on another site

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Whether it ships safely and in a timely manner is another story

jagged crypt
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i bring up the savings, because half this channel is people trying to save dollars/euros/pounds but make life much worse in configuration, updates, stability, etc

cold moon
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It be like that

jagged crypt
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amazon eu anything ship an n100 ?

cold moon
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It would be less work and more mentally forgiving to get a job at McDonald’s to make the extra $100 to buy the good shit

bright lily
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Does anyone use a Fire 10 for a tablet kiosk display? I know they used to be a bit wonky and much less desireable than an iPad, but it seems like that may have changed?

cold moon
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Yes they work great

jagged crypt
cold moon
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Although newest gen can’t be un Amazoned as well as old models

cold moon
rose zealot
jagged crypt
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I'm not sure on the beelink boxes, someone else will answer with better information

bright lily
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@cold moon are you talking about the lock screen ads? Seems like you can pay an extra $15usd to purchase one with those disabled.

cold moon
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There are Amazon coupons built in sometimes where you check off a box and save like $50 @rose zealot

cold moon
jagged crypt
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I paid around $175 for my i5-6500 unit, upgraded to 16gigs ram, and msata 256 unit

cold moon
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Don’t pay predatory pricing shit to Amazon @bright lily

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I’m using fully kiosk browser and disabled the lockscreen completely on mine. Maybe it was done with the toolbox I forget

pliant forum
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A couple of years ago you could simply live chat and they would remove it for free lol

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this was like 2017, 2018 though

pliant forum
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Swapped the ram and drive from my Lenovo mini PC into it so now it has 32GB ram and a 1TB SSD

sacred dagger
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What are some thermostats that work well with home assistant? I've got an OpenTherm boiler and my budget is about 100 euros. It doesn't have to be fancy.

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The Netherlands, Zigbee or WiFi.

delicate wigeon
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Looking for a recommendation for a cat pet door, possibly with HA local integration. Willing to pay for durabilty and reliability. Can be either WiFi or Zigbee

cold moon
graceful hearth
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Hi guys, have an esxi server I would like to install the home assistant HAOS, am I correct in needing the ova vmdk image?

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I try to mount it in esxi and get this

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If I change the controller to IDE it starts but does not see a boot sector

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Says to ensure the disk is imported, I copied it to a datastore, new hard drive -> from existing, selected the vmdk

golden thorn
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Did you extract it?

graceful hearth
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Yeah the vmdk is unzipped

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I did originally try converting the generic x86_64 image to a vmdk before I realised these ova images existed, and had the same issue

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Fixed, needed to change from BIOS to EFI boot mode

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IDE controller setting is required too

golden thorn
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Not sure why IDE is needed in your case but HAOS needs EFI. Should be mentioned somewhere as well.

graceful hearth
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Yeah I must have missed a note somewhere :P, oh well time to see how much of the smart home stuff I have dotted around I can integrate together

cold moon
graceful hearth
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Yeah it found my unifi kit automatically, IoT is on a VLAN though so it didnt find hue bulbs, solar inverter etc

patent river
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Piece of advice there: give the HA VM a 2nd NIC in the IoT VLAN

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Probably 90% of the things out there don't work without broadcast traffic, you're just creating misery for yourself trying to stuff it through the firewall

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Just let HA talk directly to the devices

cold moon
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better advice: a firewall isnt very effective once you punch (a bunch of) holes in it. trusted and untrusted KISS

graceful hearth
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Only annoyance is it shows on my UDM as two devices, not a dealbreaker

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Wish theyd add grouping to the device view

mystic lintel
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Hey guys and gals

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i got a question

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i been running my HA virtualized for a while now and looking to migrate it to a HP elitedesk 800 g3 mini

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since i dont need the WIFI card i been thinking what i can do with it and been looking at options of what cani stick in there that would benefit HA

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and then i found this...

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i looked high and low and didn't find much

patent river
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Wrong socket

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At least I think so

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Your PC looks like it has an M.2 2230 E-key socket (pretty standard for WiFi cards these days), that's mini-PCIe

mystic lintel
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was looking through the Hp quick specs and found that it is an M.2 Socket ( which is PCIe )

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1 internal M.2 WLAN (2230 connector)

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IntelĀ® 8265 802.11ac 2x2 WiFi M.2 Combo Card

cold moon
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I just wouldn’t buy that device

mystic lintel
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when searching intel 8265 datasheet for interface type it lists System Interface TypeWi-Fi(PCIe)

cold moon
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Buy a PoE zigbee coordinator and or zwave controller if you want those protocols

mystic lintel
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would be nice to just drop it in and now worry about one of the cats knocking out the USB dongle

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not a bad setup for $60CAD

cold moon
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I still haven’t opened up my m910q

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I have a 2.5GbE m.2 e key to swap in

mystic lintel
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was the first thing i did when i got home

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cleanup time

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and it's sporting a I5-7500t

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been tempted to see if i can upgrade to an i7 lol

cold moon
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There’s lots of fuckery you can do on the Lenovos

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Not sure with HP that’s a bad word to me

mystic lintel
cold moon
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Most homelabbers don’t like hp/hpe

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Jet engines and pretty much worse in every way than dell

mystic lintel
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even now im running 3x 320e V2 G8 alongside a DL380 G9

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they are fairly silent as well

cold moon
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As someone with two old dual Xeon servers fuck old dual Xeon servers

mystic lintel
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but then again

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mine live in the basement

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in the laundry room

cold moon
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Humidity++

mystic lintel
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nope

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dryer vents outside lol

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and being in Alberta its fairly dry living on the endge of the canadian prairies

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BUT

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i am tempted to toss a i7-7700 in there

pliant forum
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Dell and HP are both pretty bad at the consumer level. Their business stuff is decent though

wild atlas
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And dying

cold moon
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Ayy

tepid heart
# mystic lintel dryer vents outside lol

I hope you clean out your fan filters regularly. Some clever cookie decided it was wise to put a network rack in the laundry at a place I was working. The dryers vented outside. Didn't stop me having to clean lint out of the switch and UPS fans every 4 months.

tender eagle
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It seems the usb ports on my HA Blue are gone. Both Z2M and Zwave JS cant find their adapters

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And in the hardware tab, I dont'see '/dev'

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Hmm, after some Googling, seems to be a known problem of usb ports crapping out

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Fml

cursive junco
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WHAT MINI PC DO I GET TO RUN HOME ASS

tepid heart
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WHAT? CAN YOU SAY THAT A BIT LOUDER? (please don't yell in all caps).

neon mica
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i’ve got a gen 4 i5 and it’s running it in a VM along with ubuntu server running my discord bot and it’s still chugging. only thing to account for is ram

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While i’m here, anyone have any good recommendations for fire alarms? I just got 1 Nest Protect and honestly i really like it but christ it’s expensive

hushed seal
# neon mica While i’m here, anyone have any good recommendations for fire alarms? I just got...

If you're talking about the Nest Protect smoke alarms, they are worth the money. I have gone through so many others that drove me up the wall with false alarms, now have 3 Nests in various places and they are great. Best thing is the voice warning before the alarm sounds, plus the mobile notifications. Battery life is amazing - and the batteries are user-replacable! This probably belongs in #the-water-cooler though.

glacial oracle
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I would highly recommend getting ones that match your local regulatory requirements as well as ones being non smart. It's a consumable that will need to he replaced and there realistically is no real advantage of getting a notification that your house is currently burning down

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Some people just buy <some random> gear for this because it is cheap. Do not, it needs to work reliable

neon mica
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my only issue with the neat protect is i have to buy like 5 of them

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and they’re just expensive lol. Also i’d have to do my whole home to remain in regulatory requirements

glacial oracle
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Think about it as an investment into your personal health over the next 5-10 years (or whatever the estimated replacement cycle suggests)

neon mica
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10 years

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but an investment of like $700 😭

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i think i’m gonna wait for a better sale

cold moon
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https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/products/zooz-800-series-z-wave-long-range-dc-signal-sensor one of these does the entire house and lets you use ā€˜dumb’ quality smoke alarms

glacial oracle
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That's not really how smoke detectors work

cold moon
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I don’t need your advice

glacial oracle
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I'm still providing it so that no one dies from bad advice

cold moon
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It’s not bad advice you just don’t know what you’re talking about

mystic lintel
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I use a chopstik to block the fan blade that im blowing through

glacial oracle
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'One covers the whole house's is pretty much a horrible statement for something that you don't want to spread over the whole house before you notice

cold moon
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You should probably click the link and read what it does

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Cuz you obviously don’t understand what the product does or what interconnect smoke alarms are

mystic lintel
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Also the "rack" is the enclosed type with glass on the front of the unit

glacial oracle
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Indeed I am wrong

mystic lintel
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@cold moon i am very tempted to try that board i posted yesterday from tindie

cold moon
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I wouldn’t

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Thread and zigbee on one board is already an issue.. adding zwave to it too is crazy

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But you do you boo boo

mystic lintel
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EXACTLY!!!

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Lol

glacial oracle
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Wtf

mystic lintel
cold moon
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I don’t appreciate being compared to a car salesman

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Scum of the earth right there

mystic lintel
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Service... not sales

cold moon
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I’m not sure a good soul exists on any dealership lot

mystic lintel
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Hey now...

neon mica
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it looks and works extremely well

cold moon
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I only buy and suggest first alert detectors

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Putting the lives of my family in the hands of google ain’t it chief

neon mica
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tbf, things like smoke alarms and C02 sensors have to go through a LOt of regulatory

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It would also be a really really, really really really bad. Look on Google.

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My only issue with the first alert ones is that they’re only battery

cold moon
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You mean zcombo zwave ones? Yea id do exactly what i suggested above with dumb ones

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Otherwise sounds like you already made up your mind on cloud connected google shit

mystic lintel
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My old place had a wired ac/dc powered smoke alarms

neon mica
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lol. With this being the only cloud devices in my home, i can accept that

neon mica
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adding to that, i don’t know how much i like leaving Smoke Alarms to Home Assistant

cold moon
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I’ve been putting off running a bunch of romex to switch to interconnect

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I’ve only got two wired one top of stairs one bottom

neon mica
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I was blessed with my home being pretty new compared to others

cold moon
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Texas 1980 build here it’s a death trap

cold moon
neon mica
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right

cold moon
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For first alert zwave for example you can’t silence it if it’s been triggered by smoke or co

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Not for like 30 seconds

neon mica
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zigbee and zwave are in good spots but i still have the occasional issues

cold moon
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Not me but those are solvable

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The zwave 800 sticks seem to just be better all around with better range and more direct connections to controller

neon mica
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haven’t used zwave too hard yet

mystic lintel
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Kidde makes wireless ones if i remember

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But dunno if they are CO* monitoring as well, but they do offer photoelectric and ionization type sensors as well

glacial oracle
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Battery powered but a hard wired connection option is an odd combination

gilded nest
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Is there anyway to install Tasmota on Sonoff zigbee bridge pro without the whole ESP32 thing? I' have all the equipment and I've done it before but thought they had developed an easier way. I noticed ZHA has the ability to update the device through OTA. Does this need Tasmota installed first or can I use it to flash the device.

glacial oracle
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From what I think to remember, only a couple Sonoff devices have the diy flash ota feature

native pilot
tall hare
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im planning on replacing my current thermostat and from what i hear nest and ecobee are great but they cost nearly 200cad and i was wondering is there any cheaper options?

glacial oracle
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I mean it makes sense that way around

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It's just like those wireless headphones with a wire to keep the pair together

heady ingot
cold moon
# heady ingot Anyone here know of any alternatives to [Abode's slim door sensors](https://goab...

https://www.zwaveoutlet.com/products/sensative-strips-guard-z-wave-800-doorwindow-sensor-with-magnet I’ve heard good things about these. No battery replacement but 10 year life apparently

heady ingot
cold moon
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They aren’t new they’ve been around a long time

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The 800 model is just a long range refresh of the older ones

heady ingot
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These are quite pricey too lol -- not that that'll stop me

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I'm just surprised

cold moon
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It costs them $10,000 minimum to sign up for zwave alliance plus all the other certifications

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Generally zwave is a premium price over random zigbee or WiFi hardware

heady ingot
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That's a fair point

cold moon
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I personally use cheap aqara zigbee sensors on doors

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I even have one in my mailbox and another in a 3d printed case on my gate

heady ingot
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That was the counter debate. For my sliding glass doors I really like the hidden appeal of these. This is me being picky

cold moon
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Yolo if you have the funds

heady ingot
cold moon
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Not that..

heady ingot
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I was debating on this for other things, but saw mixed responses

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due to the matter integration with SkyConnect

cold moon
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Fuck matter

heady ingot
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lol

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Yeah, everyone seems to love these

cold moon
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I’d buy the e1 version

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Alie only I can’t find them on Amazon

heady ingot
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what the spec difference?

cold moon
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Zigbee 3.0 vs 1.2

heady ingot
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wait seriously?

cold moon
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Yes

heady ingot
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why are the 3.x versions only available overseas?

cold moon
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I do a little trolling but not with hardware

cold moon
fringe crater
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Zooz Z-wave door sensors have been good to me, they are not much of a premium price, like $20.

cold moon
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They were on there a year or two ago

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Zwave and specifically zooz isn’t great with battery life

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Not compared to zigbee at least

hallow tapir
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FWIW I really really like my Thirdreality door/window sensors. Zigbee. Cheap and reliable.

fringe crater
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I hadn't heard that zwave is worse than zigbee, interesting.
(yes I meant for battery life, sorry)

heady ingot
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Eh, I think the battery life is going to be hardware/vendor/environment specific

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Zwave is used to save battery

cold moon
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Most people don’t change default reporting settings which plays a big part

fringe crater
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Mine last about a year, but I'm thinking that's because I buy the worst noname brand CR cells for the cheapest price.

cold moon
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Zooz you’re lucky to get a year out of. Zigbee certain sensors go over 4 years

heady ingot
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But Zigbee is nicer

hallow tapir
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the Thirdreality sensors come with alkaline batteries that are at 60% out of the box but if you put lithium batteries in there they last a WHILE

glacial oracle
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people who bought the shelly h&t to have the expensive cells go dead in three weeks

heady ingot
glacial oracle
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weird that they still sell that

heady ingot
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Communication Protocol: AbodeRF/433Mhz

cold moon
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Well if you like old protocols go for it

heady ingot
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lol

cold moon
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I do not

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And specifically with zwave if you have s2 that can be a deciding factor

hallow tapir
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Unrelated: Does anyone know where I can find a guide on making the Amazon smart scales work with HA? I found this post but the comments are definitely going over my head: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/amazon-dash-smart-shelf/252750

cold moon
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Verifying packet got there for a window or door or leak sensor is pretty nice to have

hallow tapir
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I need an absolute moron's guide

cold moon
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Find another solution then lol

hallow tapir
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I would but I think this is the only real solution for a smart 3d printer filament scale.

heady ingot
cold moon
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Smart filament runout sensors can even track amount of filament gone through it now

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With no scale needed

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BTT has one on Amazon

hallow tapir
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damn I'm surprised the Bambus dont have that

cold moon
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Idk anything about those cloud connected spaceships

hallow tapir
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I mean I guess they do on bambu filament but not 3rd party

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I mean they dont have to be cloud connected but thats a whole conversation. They're awesome though.

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but thanks I'll look into the BTT scales

cold moon
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I didn’t suggest a scale lol

hallow tapir
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sorry filament sensor

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one track mind

cold moon
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The diy thing you linked has a guy saying go watch a thehookup video on something similar

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So you can probably figure it out if you take the time to learn and just try it

hallow tapir
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yeah I missed that link the first time. I'll have to go that route because the runout sensors are 1) usually assuming a certain MCU in in your printer and 2) with all the spool swapping we do on my company's print farms they probably aren't super practical

cold moon
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You should probably ask in a printer farm discord tbh

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Although lots of dummies with money in that business

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Only real barriers to entry are startup costs and cash flow

heady ingot
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@cold moon QQ but on Ali did you buy from one particular merchant?

cold moon
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It doesn’t matter

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I’ve linked that specific link multiple times in the past year with no complaints

heady ingot
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Taking about the Aqara Door Window Sensor E1. Your current link is sold out

hallow tapir
cold moon
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I’m a part of the community I know stuff and things

hallow tapir
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I'm sure you know the stuff. Just sayin it sounded a lil dismissive

cold moon
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It was

hallow tapir
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I'm dismissed then

cold moon
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I’d use the terms blunt and realistic lol

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Built out a big shop to house more Prusas

hallow tapir
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it's all about the niches. We do gothic decor/horror fandom stuff

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at least it's not articulated dragons amirite?

cold moon
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I print lots of dumb shit but just to give away

distant yacht
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@golden thorn

golden thorn
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How did you assign the memory to the VMs? If you go over 80% memory usage ballooning will kick in.

golden thorn
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Doesn't matter in this case then since you don't have a lower value for the memory defined.

golden thorn
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Click the advanced button. You can define a lower memory and and a upper one. Basically the lower is reserved and the upper is the maximum it can use over time. Well, unless the host has >= 80% memory usage.

distant yacht
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now i need to read what "ballooning" means šŸ˜„

golden thorn
distant yacht
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well, i actually did order the 8 GB of RAM, but got scammed (i think: as it didn't come in 2+ weeks, and the local alternative to ebay is in the process of "investigating" ;p). i'm gonna upgrade the ram eventually.

but… it's been working like that for hmm… 1,5 years with no problems :]

golden thorn
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The discrepancy between the load avg and the CPU usage makes me think the swap/disk might be used a lot. I would expect the iowait to be a bit higher though.
As long as everything works it should be fine but If you have some spare time I'd investigate with tools mentioned here: https://www.site24x7.com/learn/linux/troubleshoot-high-io-wait.html
I'm kind of intrigued by this.

distant yacht
golden thorn
distant yacht
# golden thorn I had some very bad experience with ZVOLS. Not that uncommon as it turns out: <h...

my reasoning: I want a ZFS RAID to have a "backup" when one of the hard drives breaks for some reason.

  • i know: "raid is not backup" (because with electrical surge both drives can go down; because if I delete file on one, I cannot restore it from the second one; etc) -> so let's not call it backup, let's call it "redundancy" or whatev šŸ˜‰
  • i've never done a RAID before, so mostly it's a learning experience anyway
  • ZFS is the recommended solution for Proxmox (btrfs and mdraid are "unsupported")
  • ZFS requires 8 GB of RAM -> "lucky me" as I think my S720 cannot do more šŸ˜‰
golden thorn
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ZFS can work with less.

distant yacht
glacial oracle
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The rule of thumb would be 2+1/tb GB, even that is plenty for most cases

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Tho realistically brtfs will do just fine as well, you just loose the in memory features for the most part

distant yacht
glacial oracle
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by default with proxmox it will claim a whole lot more than it would actually need
if you get to the point of configuring it, take the moment to dial it down

outer knotBOT
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@distant yacht I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

distant yacht
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@golden thorn from the tests /\ I will conclude that:

  • it takes ~8-9 W when normal load (most of the time)
  • it takes ~16-17 W when under heavy load (like the backups scheduled at 4 AM each night)
  • Kruger is most likely completely wrong
  • the smart sockets cannot be trusted -> too much different values ;p
gilded nest
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Does anyone have a link to a newer guide on how to flash the Sonoff Zigbee bridge pro? I already did it the old way but I just can't connect to it in HA.

golden thorn
distant yacht
# golden thorn Gotta have a good reference like a killawatt or similar. Weird that your smart p...

Weird that your smart plugs are so unreliable.
3 of them are the (in)famous TuYas.
The only one not being TuYa (-> Aqara) gives the middle result šŸ˜„

Gotta have a good reference like a killawatt or similar.
yeah, as I said, at my beginnings with home automation, I've flashed the Gosund to Tasmota, read about calibration, decided that I cannot easily achieve it – I don't have any calibrated device to have a reference point. Not a big deal, as the actual numbers give me nothing: I don't care how much power my furnace actually takes (it is what it is, I'm renting, so I won't change it anyway) -> I just wanna now if it's working right now or not (and that's a ~6 / ~85 / ~150 W options -> measured by… Kruger xd). But I've come a long way since those beginnings, so maybe I could get back to the subject šŸ™‚

Considering that a much more powerful N100 can idle at 6W that's still not that efficient
Kruger gives the 5.7 W idle -> maybe this one is right, and others are wrong? ;p Although the 258 V looks strange to me… (Poland: it's supposed to be 230 V [?]).

It also has the 2 HDD powered via USB3 + Zigbee Sonoff Dongle–P connected as well => I don't know how much can that affect the results.

Can you try if it gets reduced with powertop --auto-tune?
I'm guessing you want me to run it directly on Proxmox? Sure, but a bit later!

gilded nest
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I have a Sonoff Zigbee bridge Pro loaded with Tasmota and talking to HA. I am trying to add an Aqara Tem and humidity sensor but it shows up asLUMI lumi.weather. Is this normal?

golden thorn
gritty holly
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does anyone know anyone or how to get EVOFW3 to work with an Orcon MVS-15R ventiliation system?

steel zealot
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orcon MVS-15R

devout parrot
gilded nest
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Thanks

sullen comet
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Did you end up tacking this? I am trying to decide the same thing currently

cold moon
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It looks very straightforward and simple with some decent wire strippers and wagos

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There’s even a cute little 3d printed case that houses the wagos

lyric mortar
pine acorn
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Anyone have a recommendation for an LED light strip that’s rated for outdoors? I think my hue ones died.

Located in the US
Budget is probably no more than $500, but if you know of something more expensive than that which will work LMK anyway
Zigbee or z-wave preferred
These will need to be able to take rain and snow, sometimes heavy snow. The hue ones are a bit short, I think I need to 4x the length for what I’m doing. Totally acceptable to weatherproof a normal strip as well (if that’s the route, please link to all the stuff that would be required).

opal yew
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hello what do you advice me to take instead of something like this

gilded nest
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Do Aliexpress Aqara sensors work in us? They keep talking about international versions, what does that mena?

golden thorn
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Got a link?

cold moon
glacial oracle
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I could see there may be some differences in frequency ranges between version

keen cloud
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Doing a bit of sensor testing at home šŸ˜…

tepid heart
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That alcohol thermometer will be +/-1°C at best.

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A man with one watch knows the time. A man with two watches is never sure.

patent river
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Would also say there's no guarantee the temperature sensor the HVAC is reading is inside that control panel.

haughty herald
distant yacht
opal yew
vapid sapphire
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Mini PC Computers Intel 12th Gen N95 (up to 3.4GHz) 8GB RAM DDR5 256GB M.2 SSD,Home Office Micro Desktop Computer with Dual Gigabit Ethernet Support 3* Dual-WiFi Bluetooth 4.2HDMI 3*USB 3.1-RGB Light https://a.co/d/4oLskyJ

Hello! New to HA. Fairly tech savvy. Looking to just start with some basic stuff to move my automations away from Alexa into something more versatile and so I can link my hue and Caseta devices more easily together.

Anyways I ordered this mini pc on Amazon. Was the cheapest offering in Canada and felt more comfortable using Amazon than ali express. Does this look like a suitable platform to run HA? I also have a pi 3b I already own but figured it might be better to setup something with more robust storage and better specs from the start. Thanks šŸ™‚

sullen comet
# vapid sapphire Mini PC Computers Intel 12th Gen N95 (up to 3.4GHz) 8GB RAM DDR5 256GB M.2 SSD,H...

Yes, that will easily handle HA. I am about a week farther along into the process than you are - I set jp my similar mini PC a few days ago. I got a N100 which is very similar to the N95 from the HA perspective.

It will have enough power to run a few things simultaneously, so the best practice (from what I've gathered) is to run proxmox at the first layer, the run a HA OS virtual machine on top of proxmox.. then you can add other VMs/containers for other things you might want to do with the box

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I can give you a couple links if you want a proxmox+ha install tutorial

vapid sapphire
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Excellent tysm! Yes that would be great

sullen comet
# vapid sapphire Excellent tysm! Yes that would be great

Hot off the press is Proxmox VE 8.1, which GA'd in late November, 2023. It is based on Debian Bookworm 12.2, and has a number of new features like defaulting to Linux Kernel 6.5. This post is a completely refreshed version of my popular Home Assistant: Proxmox VE 8.0 Quick Start Guide, but all new

vestal sentinel
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nice

tranquil violet
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Hi, I bought recently a xiaomi mlg03 (ZNDMWG02LM) and updated it's firmware using the procedure here: https://github.com/zvldz/mgl03_fw/blob/main/firmware/README.md
all went fine, but when updating the zigbee module I probably dind't follow the steps correctly as they are outdated and I think the module is briked. I can add bluetooth devices fine but the zigbee can't find any device in xiaomi app and the home assistant keeps giving me errors. I think I might have briked it.
https://github.com/zvldz/mgl03_fw/blob/main/zigbee/README.md

what can I do to recover it? even if it involves opening the device up.

in the home automation page the zigbee flash EZSP keeps giving error.

Thanks

GitHub

Xiaomi Gateway v3 firmwares and update manuals. Contribute to zvldz/mgl03_fw development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub

Xiaomi Gateway v3 firmwares and update manuals. Contribute to zvldz/mgl03_fw development by creating an account on GitHub.

outer steppe
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does anyone know how to find microphones in your network?

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i'm still trying to get the ecobee to work with home assistant, it appears that the speaker/mic is airplay but I can't find a way to discover it

keen cloud
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Is it battery powered or net powered?

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If thats on battery I would love to know the battery life

keen cloud
distant yacht
keen cloud
keen cloud
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Whats the frequentcy it reports the data?

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Roughly ?

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Hmm now i see your time axis. Seems that the Tuya ZTH05 respons very slowly

distant yacht
keen cloud
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The Tuya i have now reports every 30minutes. The aquara reports a bit more randomly ( sometimes after 10minutes sometimes 45minutes) have not figured this one out

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Whats the interval that the SNZB-02 reports?

distant yacht
keen cloud
distant yacht
keen cloud
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every 2 minutes seems like a lie if i look at your screenshots tho

distant yacht
keen cloud
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damn thats impressive for a battery powered device

distant yacht
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these are next to each other (snzb-02 vs snzb-02d)

crimson cobalt
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Has anyone tried unbinding a TPLink KASA device from the cloud using the python library lately? I have numerous switches that somehow updated (and I normally block them access to the net) - they now reboot every 10 minutes since they cannot reach the cloud.

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I found instructions on how to do, but it comes back with "server no responce" error when issuing the commands.

unreal falcon
obsidian juniper
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I got a new Shelly plus 1 coming from 1L because this one has a better relay and hopefully won't get stuck

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I see a 12v connection. Is it possible to power a security camera besides the light switch?

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This is the power supply of the security camera

glacial oracle
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this is a 12v power input, not output

obsidian juniper
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Oh thanks šŸ˜‚ i feel stupid for asking

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Ty

glacial oracle
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it works on either 12, 24-48, 110-230v

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you could however just cram a 12v converter in this box aswell

obsidian juniper
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I'm no electrician not sure how to do this

glacial oracle
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effectively the same as the +1 has been installed

obsidian juniper
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So cut the power supply cord of the charger and connect it to the wago from where the electricity is coming from

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Right?

glacial oracle
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well you would have the converter inbeween but effectively yes

obsidian juniper
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Converter?

glacial oracle
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you would need to get the line voltage down to 12v

obsidian juniper
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Makes sense

glacial oracle
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or reuse the one that is inside the plug you have above if you can open that carefully

obsidian juniper
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The power supply does this for me

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I get it now

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Not even sure what the inside looks like lol

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I'm going to YouTube

glacial oracle
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chances are its heavily glued in. at worst amazon will likely have such part available (like for leds and stuff)

obsidian juniper
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I'm going to try opening the charger and connecting the cables normally going to the socket directly to my power

cold moon
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Either wire is too long or not pushed in far enough

obsidian juniper
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Will do, thanks!

glacial oracle
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someone got sharp eyes ;D

cold moon
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The wagos have a measuring line on the side of them for perfect length to go into wagos too

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Like so

obsidian juniper
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Didn't know that

obsidian juniper
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Are there risks for not fully putting in the neutral wire

glacial oracle
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it may not be secured properly

obsidian juniper
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I have more Shellys installed in home and I might need to check if any wire is a tiny bit exposed

cold moon
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that's a disappointing question

glacial oracle
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also in case of stuff going where it shouldnt you totally dont want to end up touching stuff by accident

cold moon
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do you know what the neutral wire is for and why it's bad to have exposed copper?

obsidian juniper
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I know 0 electricity

cold moon
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im quoting US power cuz idk what the uk or eu stuff does: for the usa, canada etc the neutral is used to send power "back" to the breaker if there is a ground fault

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if the neutral is exposed like that and there's a short it arcs to the closest thing it can cuz physics

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you should watch a few videos on what not to do before doing any of this shit man

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it's not rocket appliances but still

glacial oracle
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in fairness its not that obvious

obsidian juniper
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Yeah first thing in the morning I'm opening all wall switches to check for any exposed wires

cold moon
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in yeehaw texas land it's drilled into us from a young age not to fuck with electricity if you dont understand it

cold moon
glacial oracle
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texas is just different

gloomy spoke
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and not to accept tainted electricity from any other state

cold moon
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i cant control anything about what the yeehaw political fucks do

cold moon
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This product is really neat

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Takes your existing wired interconnect smoke alarms and adds a way to notify if any go off

unreal falcon
cold moon
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You need a zwave controller

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Probably a good idea to buy the tube zwave one and the raspi hat from zooz for it

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https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/collections/spring-sale/products/zooz-700-series-z-wave-plus-scene-controller-switch-zen32 id get one of these too. I have one and like the buttons for home assistant automations

unreal falcon
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@cold moon sorry for the ping--you've been a lot of help. Buying some of the smoke detectors/the scene controller while they're on sale. For the zwave hub: Tubes Zwave PoE kit + Zooz long range 800 GPIO module?

cold moon
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Please read the description of the product

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You only need one if they’re all interconnected

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Oh you said you’re moving into old house

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Chances are basically zero they’re all interconnected

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But if you had an electrician come to fix other wiring they could wire it up but it wouldn’t be cheap

unreal falcon
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I didn't read that, so thanks for pointing it out. Will read now--and yes, I doubt they're connected. But I will have an electrician do that I think, depending on cost. Ha

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Yep

cold moon
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Basically romex in attic would be ran to every single one in a daisy chain

unreal falcon
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The fun part is, the second story is a converted attic. So almost no attic space. Ha

cold moon
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And that product sits on the traveler wire listening like the other smoke alarms in the daisy chain

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I’d just let them punch a bunch of holes in drywall and pay a drywall guy to come unfuck it later

cold moon
cold moon
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It’s a new product but confirmed working well (the tubes kit)

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Thx

unreal falcon
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Thank you! Very helpful. I don't move in for a couple months, so I'll dig through old messages on here and read up and come back later to see what folks think about a plan. Gives me more time to see what we'll do on the electric side, too

cold moon
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Nothing will change in a couple months except stable firmware on zwave controller maybe

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For battery only smoke co alarms I’d go first alert zcombo

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I prefer first alert branded smoke alarms myself

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For door window do aqara e1 zigbee sensors

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I even have one on my gate in a 3d printed case and another in my mailbox

unreal falcon
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Awesome, I was wondering about using them outside.

cold moon
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They aren’t waterproof but it’s survived in my mailbox over a year in its existing case in Texas summer even

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For the gate I did that not too long ago and did not attempt to waterproof it either but it’s in a 3d printed case. We’ll see how long it’ll last

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I sent you a pm btw

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Discord hides them cuz they can’t control crypto bots

unreal falcon
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They're in every corner of the internet haha

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Appreciate all the help!

opal yew
tender jewel
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Has anyone used reolinknor other solar powered cameras into frigate/HA? Or should I figure out a way to hardwire or so POE. Currently house isn't wired for Ethernet and it's probably not realistic for me atm

cold moon
tender jewel
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I will. Apologies. I've been drinking

lyric mortar
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The smoke detector conversation makes me think to ask, does anyone have any experience with listeners (that supposedly listen for smoke / CO2 alarms)?

cold moon
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not 100% but it sounds right

lyric mortar
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Huh, no kidding? I’ll look into that. I think Alexa devices no longer do, which was a bummer.

cold moon
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i dont put amazon or google devices on my lan out of respect for myself šŸ˜› (and my privacy)

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actually that's not true apple tvs suck compared to nvidia shield tvs so i submit there smile

keen cloud
drifting grove
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Hey guys

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So I'm cururentl trying to set up all my stuff with HA

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I have an Alexa Echo, 2 +sylee bulbs and homebridge

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I want to get a switch or toggle in the HA dashboard for the lightbulbs but struggling to do ss

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Can someone hlp me out?

unreal star
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Hi I am looking for smart lock for doors that works with zigbee/z-weave and I am able to change pin codes in HA. Ideally with 1 year battery life šŸ˜„ Any recomendations ? thanks

cold moon
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That or keymaster for management of codes

unreal star
cold moon
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Battery life depends on how freely the lock engages and disengages into the hole

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If it has to exert a lot of force to jam that thing up in there then it wears out faster

unreal star
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Damn i cannot find them in UK ;/

cold moon
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Are you talking about deadbolts or crazy eu locks

unreal star
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Also another question, which sensors like temp. humidity and motion sensors are by your opinion the most reliable to install? on zigbee

unreal star
cold moon
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Aqara e1 for door window sensors. I use them on a gate and in mailbox too

cold moon
unreal star
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so aqara mainly šŸ‘ Hows battery life on them?

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i sent you pm btw

cold moon
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Hue motion sensors go over 4 years no idea on aqara

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Probably half that

vital turtle
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I have what I think is a 3 way switch in a hallway controlled by two plain switches and like to integrate them ( no neutral ) thoughts ?

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Each box has three wires (white red black)

cold moon
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You’re not counting the ground?

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Oh is this some eu wiring or USA or?

vital turtle
cold moon
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I need a picture I don’t believe you

gloomy spoke
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If you have white, red, and black, what makes you think you don't have a neutral?

vital turtle
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Bottom

gloomy spoke
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The white wire is a neural?

cold moon
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Find the hidden ground

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Back of the box

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Black is line aka live power back to breaker. White is neutral. Red is traveler to other switch

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Where be ground