hardware-archived

[dry fable]

The 4 E26 Smart Bulbs + Hub bundle is 199.99 for RGBW Bulbs. But it's exactly the bulb count I need right now.

[eternal moss]

I saw some Hue lights bulbs at Walmart that were Matter. I took a picture, but not sure if I deleted it

Well, now I'm questioning if it's actually Hue, since it doesn't say it on the box. I need to read up to see what Wiz is.

[glacial oracle]

It's mostly just the wifi controlling that differs as opposed to hue which uses zigbee

This indeed is not a hue line product

[eternal moss]

yeah, that's what I'm reading too. Definitely not Hue.

not sure if I like that it uses WiFi

a good majority of my bulbs are Hue though

[glacial oracle]

They seem to at least also be a signify product

So you likely won't have a bad time with them either

[eternal moss]

Good thing I put them back on the shelf

[glacial oracle]

Even better ^^

[eternal moss]

I have been wanting to get a Hue ceiling light for my son's room, but man they are expensive. Nearly 300 bucks

[spring island]

If i wanted to connect this (rechargable water spray gun) to zigbee,zwave,mayba tuya, or anything i can control via home assistant.... what would i buy?
I plan on destroying this to get to the actual battery-> switch and putting something inbetween it. Assuming the wiring is simple... is it possible or going to be a nightmare on the zigbee/zwave module side?

Alternatively, i will just convert it to DC and control it with a normal zwave wall switch. But wireless sounds so much more entertaining if it was easy and allow me to place it better

[safe vector]

Hi there! I am trying to get a usb flatbed scanner (Canon Lide 110) to run. I have homeassistant running on a raspberry pi and so far I've managed to get it recognized by SANE and scan from the terminal. I also installed the python packages pillow (via apk) and python-sane (via pip, did not find an apk) and could scan from a python script. but this is where my success ends. I tried hacs-pyscript but in that environment is just refuses to load the python-sane module. the ones installed via apk work though. does anyone have an idea or a better way for me to use the scanner?

[golden thorn]

You probably have to do the same things in the HA container as well. SSH and HA are separate containers.

[safe vector]

hmm yeah... I'm trying now with appdaemon instead of pyscript, I think I have more control over what is installed heree

[golden thorn]

Maybe. At the end of the day HAOS is still a purpose built OS.

[safe vector]

Installing collected packages: python-sane
Successfully installed python-sane-2.9.1``` ohhhh yeah 🥳

[nimble token]

Are there any pressure sensors on the market for beds that don't require a bunch of assembly and coding to be used for home assistant?

[tough frost]

Hi! I was looking at eufy cameras but saw an argument on ozbargain for reolink cameras. I know someone will have an opinion hahaha, what are they compared like? I want wireless security camera in front entrance and back entrance, 4k in front, don't care in back, would like a spotlight feature too.

[tough frost]

I asked this recently, best solution I saw was FSR using esphome
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/fsr-the-best-bed-occupancy-sensor/365795

[nimble token]

https://tenor.com/view/pout-cry-attitude-gif-5933749

[terse pebble]

Pressure mats and an Aqara Zigbee waterleak sensor - just putting the right wires to the sensor's contacts

Like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tL7n8RRLBc

🤔

[nimble token]

trying to avoid things that require a hub is enough of a problem, but I'm also not trying to change out batteries as much as possible

[tepid heart]

Pressure mats eventually crush and false trigger. I know. I've tried.

[nimble token]

I assume that mostly depends on how you're using it

if it's constantly on something hard, I could see why it'd get crushed over time

soft layers in between would likely work for longer

[tough frost]

link I sent is using FSR and esp32 powered from 5v

[nimble token]

I'm aware

[tepid heart]

I've blocked both of you BTW. Change your disgusting avatars.

[zinc bronze]

Hey all, maybe my first post here.. I need to control Bluetooth (BLE) nearer the end-device than my HA box (or the Theengs decoder on a Pi the wrong end of home cos its wired up to another sensor, not that Theengs sends BT out to this thing either at present). I have an ESH EP1 probably located near enough currently, but I understand the originally-claimed BT proxy is not in place on that at present, and maybe also that it would only be for receiving BLE if it was (unsure)? Are most BT proxies just passive receivers/scanners or is it just the limited number I've looked at (that don't require much electronics work or altering mains 240v wiring here in the UK)?
I am sure the right ESP32 thing could do it from what I've been picking up (does everyone love them) but I'm a little anxious to dip into those given my clumsiness and propensity for breaking things when doing soldering/leaving or leaving bare circuit boards around a while until ready, and the adhd-style traits that means if it becomes non-trivial to fit a case round it or takes notable time waiting for things to do the next bit and my excitement/passion wanes it'll sit in a drawer/clutter a desk for up to 3 years (too many projects have gone that way). Can you suggest something or confirm any of my understandings about proxies on the market? Another small Pi might do it, but that feels OTT just for this + more connectivity needed.
Further context: i) have a zigbee network for a few days now ii) loving PoE stuff am starting to use where makes any kind of sense / can reduce mains plug usage and bonus that it avoids more wifi clogging and is generally reliable+remote power-switching comes for free iii) trying to minimise things on 2.4G wifi but could do it.

[tepid heart]

You don't need to solder anything. Buy an M5Stack and program it from a Chrome Web browser: https://esphome.io/projects/index.html

[tepid heart]

https://shop.m5stack.com/products/atom-lite-esp32-development-kit

[zinc bronze]

I mean I've done it (soldering) - that wired sensor is mostly crimped connectors but I did wire on a Pi header 😮 !... But it took several goes, cos its been forever since I last did any and its only ever a few things so I never get good enough to remember how to do it well and always rewatch tutorials and still screw up a bit... I since started trying conductive glue.

[zinc bronze]

Thank you very much! +1 point helping me get over my "asking for help" barrier

[dire dust]

hi there, im searching for a HA Computer. I'm currently running a Raspi4 8GB and am thinking about switching to a mini PC to benefit from SSD, higher computing power and upgradeability. What hardware can you recommend? Currently my favorites are a NiPoGi AK2 Plus Intel N100 (187€ new), Beelink Mini S12 Pro N100 (187€ new) or an Intel NUC5i5/NUC6i5 (~150€ used).
I don't want to buy from Ali, Geekbuy or similar

What do you think?

[glacial oracle]

I could imagine load sensors hidden under contact points of the frame would be a more durable solution

that would be a bit more diy ^^

[zinc bronze]

I'm really liking our Reolink; had it running 2-3 months now. Lots of people have it stream the video to a server but I am happy with it just recording locally + grabbing any important ones ourselves. The intercom feature is way too quiet on some Samsung phones (older ones mostly) - hear its fine on an S23 and it works fine on our non-Samsung tablet, I think/hope they are working on that problem (they know about it), not sure what priority though. The Eufy (I understand its an Aqara brand/related to) was definitely a close 2nd choice, but the Reolink video quality is really rather good both at day and night. No 2nd camera looking downwards - does that matter to you? Day/night change between IR vision and regular (using the on-board processing) triggers an object event most days it seems, for our settings, but we know to ignore it.
Works great for triggering automations, e.g. letting us know if someone is nearing the doorbell (cos we have to go outside to answer it, which can take extra time if we're not ready, which means we have missed deliveries in the past just from not being able to get there fast enough - this gives us valuable extra seconds). Love that it doesn't require their cloud and the HA integration being pretty solid. The only gripe that others have (and I've bemoaned it a touch) is that the video feed format doesn't play quite as well with some other devices that would otherwise be able to read the stream, and took extra effort (via go2rtc) to make it more visible on actions. Got a good deal on it over Black Friday. They don't (Yet!) sell an extra chime but there's at least 2 other chime units you can buy that work with it (the one we got is a bit cheap and too many not great tunes alongside the typical chimes and the odd ok other one but it works).
Watched a few reviews on YT about it in comparative reviews versus the Eufy/others

[tame escarp]

Moving house in a few months and what to smartify the house.
Looking for a smart thermostat, just a basic one that controls a boiler. Preferably local, but I'm okay with cloud. I don't want anything that is complex and custom like relays and stuff, just a basic one

In the UK

ZigBee

[safe vector]

I'm running home assistant directly on a raspberry 4. what is the best way to execute a python script that needs access to a usb device? I tried python_scripts (no custom libraries), pyscript (issues getting non-packaged (apk) libraries to work, also probably no usb because dockerized), appdaemon (no usb cause docker) and I believe I might run into issues using shell command because of the strict time limit..... so after using up today with the experimenting I'm getting frustrated

[quiet stratus]

I'm running HA on odroid N2+ (HA Blue Hardkernel). I was planning to move my data disk to a new USB SSD, but when I plugged the SSD into the odroid, I don't see it in HA as an available disk. It's 1 TB, so not smaller than current EMMC. Plenty of power (6 amp). Thoughts?

[merry frigate]

Is anybody interested in some martin jerry light switches? I rencently switched back to zwave, they are all flashed with tasmota. Switches and dimmers, total of about 30 of them. I had a lot of them in groups for 3 and 4 way situations, they did not work when wifi was out ssince they need to communicate to each other over wifi for the groups to work.

[tawny rover]

Hive. Cloud is optional. Schedule runs without internet. Had mine for a year and been very happy.

[tame escarp]

oh that's awesome

so I'd assume you don't need a hive hub thing, and HA just picks it up with an integration?

[tawny rover]

It is apparently possible to tie the thermostat directly into HA via zigbee but I do not do that. Yet.

[tame escarp]

My understanding is that Hive devices use some bespoke subset of Zigbee such that a hub is required for full functionaliy.
If you are going into the weeds like this, it may be better just to get a zigbee thermostat and connect a RPi to the boiler demand

[tawny rover]

No idea. I’m using the hive integration but it works via the cloud AFAIK. It’s not ideal but I do not want to DIY something so critical nor do I want Google’s crap.

[tame escarp]

I already have a working nest integration so would that just be easier?

[tawny rover]

I was lead to believe you can plum the Zigbee thermostat directly in but haven’t tried it.

I know very little about Nest except your schedule (apparently) fails if your internet goes down. Put me off.

[tame escarp]

I'm not even sure how these thermostats work. You get a device on the boiler, then you typically have some kind of remote that you put on the wall?

So if I just get some sort of zigbee boiler connection, that's all I need?

[tawny rover]

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/hive-protocols-connection-direct-to-ha/391807

No answer to the last question, naturally. 😉

There is a receiver for the boiler that uses the standard pins you’d get on any old RF thermostat link. Then there is the thermostat which goes on the wall, then there is the hub which attaches ti the LAN via ethernet. It’s my understanding that bit can be replaced by HA.

There’s also hive branded TRVs.

The functionality you get through the HA hive integration, using the hive hub, is reasonable. But it’s tied to your cloud account. Without internet you’d have to use the thermostat on the wall.

[acoustic yoke]

BENEXMART Zigbee Smart Electronic Biometric Door Lock - has anybody use this with home assistant? Or what does everyone have for smart door locks that work with Zigbee

[last creek]

I have a question for the people who developed the home assistant dynalite integration (yes i know less than 40 installations use it). I understand that the integration doesn't communicate with DyNet directly but do you know of any documentation (public or otherwise) for integrating directly with the dynet bus?

i'm trying to find documentation for the protocol spec but it looks like all the official docs aren't publically accessible

if worst comes to worst i will probably just attach an rs485 probe to the cable and reverse engineer it from a packet capture :P

[winged knoll]

BENEXMART Zigbee Smart Electronic

[tough frost]

So do you have this setup streaming it to a local server storing motion recordings? Does it handle it or would you need some other server/system for recordings? I have one tapo one ATM and it has onboard storage I can access

[pliant forum]

Typically these cameras require an NVR: Network Video Recorder. Any RTSP cam can connect to an NVR typically. Some examples of software NVRs you can run are Scrypted, Frigate and Blue Iris

there’s also physical dedicated NVRs you can buy.

[turbid river]

Quick question. Is this kind of performance expected from a 4GB RPi 4? HW monitoring seems fine (CPU/MEM/NET doesn't seem to be a bottleneck)

[winged knoll]

Depends on what you're doing on it

[turbid river]

Zigbee connection to 18 devices (via ZBDongle-E), IKEA integration with 20, a handful of automations. That's mostly it.

[vital anvil]

Hey, is an Intel NUC5CPYH enough for home assistant?

[winged knoll]

Yes

[vital anvil]

And would an Intel D34010WYK be sufficient?

with 8 GB RAM and 256 GB SSd

[terse pebble]

Everything as or more powerful as/than a Raspberry Pi would be sufficient.

It depends on what you want to do additionally with it

[winged knoll]

As long as the CPUMark is above 900 it's better than a Pi4

[golden thorn]

For reference, this is the D34010WYK's CPU: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-4010U+%40+1.70GHz
This is the Pi 4's CPU: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=BCM2711

[winged knoll]

Twice as fast as a snail

[delicate shell]

Hello I am looking to buy the Home Assistant Yellow PoE but there doesn't seem to be any for sale in the UK. PiHut only have the standard. Anyone know where you can get the PoE model?

[terse pebble]

https://www.home-assistant.io/yellow

[delicate shell]

Thank you but no one is shipping from the UK - was wondering if there are any other outlets in the UK.

[terse pebble]

No

[terse pebble]

But maybe another seller ships DDP. Like CrowdSupply (even though I'm not a big fan of them)

[plucky quartz]

Anyone have any recommendations for an outdoor wifi power switch that is all local? I've already used some Smart Life ones, but would prefer local. I know tuya-convert, but it seems like they patched the hole years ago, so unlikely to find new devices that'll work with it.

[patent river]

Could you just install a Shelly Relay (either in the enclosure behind a normal dumb outlet, or back at the breaker)?

[plucky quartz]

I hadn't seen those before... will definitely take a look. Thanks!

[patent river]

In the extremely unlikely event that you're in Australia or NZ, Schneider have a range of actually quite nice Zigbee outdoor outlets:
https://www.pdl.co.nz/iconic-outdoor
(Called "Iconic" in both countries, but branded "PDL" here in NZ and "Clipsal" in AU)

[plucky quartz]

bummer, no luck

have zwave, but some of the locations are outside of zwave range... but wifi have everywhere here

goal is to split my iot vlan into iot-internal and iot-external

[naive salmon]

Could someone recommend me a battery powered doorbell camera? My apt building won’t let me run wires to power one

[plucky quartz]

I use a Ring Doorbell Plus. Its not in a spot where can easily run power for it, so its just battery powered. I have to swap the battery like every other month. Quick to do though.

[naive salmon]

Do you pay a monthly fee for that?

[plucky quartz]

Yeah, for their service. Unsure if they have a free tier, have been using Ring for years.

[fresh wyvern]

Could Anyone recommend me the best mmwave Sensor for a small bathroom ?
Thank you very much in Advance!

[native pilot]

does it have to be mmwave?

[cold moon]

How much money we talkin

[native pilot]

like why not just a motion sensor? https://www.amazon.com/GE-Occupancy-Required-SmartThings-26931/dp/B07226MG2T

Why

mmwave is overkill for small spaces

[cold moon]

It’s ideal for triggering through a shower curtain etc

And what you linked is junk no one really suggests getting/jasco/enbrighten zwave anymore due to shit hardware, not good fw, and the settings being generally shit

[native pilot]

shower in the dark like a normal person!

[native pilot]

It was just the first link that came up when googling, agree on the embrighten stuff generally.

[cold moon]

Imo it’s bad form to link things you wouldn’t yourself buy lol

[native pilot]

The aqara fp2 has been great for me (once disabling external communication) and I've heard great things about the EP1 BUT I don't know how well it would do in a semi wet environment.

[stone owl]

Looks like this has come up a few times in the channel without any promising answers, but anyone know of any thin mortise locks that integrate well? I ideally want to be able to view and set lock/unlock state and set temporary pins. This is the door in question.

Don't super care which protocol but want local control.

[patent river]

I can point you to form factor appropriate electric mortise locks, but not smart ones

A lot of the doors at work that have skinny frames like that have locks like these:
https://www.assaabloy.com/nz/en/solutions/products/electromechanical-solutions/electric-mortice-locks/selector-series-electric-mortice-locks

But they're on a centralised system, not standalone

You could also potentially keep the mortise but replace the cylinder with a smart version, the likes of this:
https://sylvan.co.nz/electronic-euro-cylinder/
(no endorsement, know nothing about this brand, just so you've got a picture)

Might give you more things to search for, in any case

[stone owl]

appreciate it, thanks.

[rapid quiver]

does anyone know how to wire my new MOEs Thermostat to my old RGBY? Instructions say diddly and dont help at all

Searching also has yielded nothing so far

[lyric mortar]

Plugged SkyConnect into my Yellow with the provided USB extension. It's not showing up in Devices & Services, even after the suggested troubleshooting steps (tried both USB ports, waited a while). Any other suggestions?

[bitter heron]

I'm not sure if such an animal exists but is there a chime that will fire when it receives a webhook? (without home assistant)

Figured if anyone knew it'd be known here lmao

[terse pebble]

Reboot the host. USB hardware detection sometimes is a bit flakey

[chilly heart]

One of my IKEA Parasoll sensors can't see opened or closed anymore. I have them linked via Z2MQQT, should I reconfigure the device?

[terse pebble]

#zigbee-archived might know

[chilly heart]

I'll take it there thank you

[earnest spoke]

I'm planning on hooking our Steam deck up to the TV in the living room via a dock with a wireless keyboard and mouse for couch gaming. So far I have been using moonlight on the TV to stream games from my PC (completely different room), and I'd like to keep that functionality intact for whenever my SO has the Steam Deck.

A simple KVM Switch would perhaps be the easiest solution here, but I was wondering if there's any way to switch inputs wirelessly? Does anyone know if there's a way to trigger these common KVM switches with some kind of remote?

https://www.amazon.de/Monitors-Switches-Computers-Keyboard-Printer/dp/B0C5WMSRSC

[glacial oracle]

There are kvm switches with a remote

[earnest spoke]

Huh. TIL 😕
Seems they aren't even that much more expensive.

I've been tinkering too much to think of the more straightforward solution 🙃

[glacial oracle]

Realistically the hardwired controls are also just single pulse over a 2.5mm aux cable

You could craft something up with that but buying one is easier ^^

[earnest spoke]

This is what I was planning on doing. I saw the aux cable and my first thought was "how do I get home assistant to send an signal to that aux port" instead of being "I wonder if they make remotes for these things"

[glacial oracle]

esp32 and friends probably be a good fit for that

[lyric mortar]

If it’s going to be out of sight and you don’t mind a less elegant solution, maybe just a switchbot to press the KVM button?

[wild atlas]

Sounds like a job for esphome and some custom circuit to hook it up to a chime

Maybe a little more diy than you're looking for though

[drifting grove]

Has anybody had issues with Shelly sensors? I bought two Shelly sensors for the doors, and one of them I could just never get to work and never connect to anything... I returned that one the other one I got to turn on and connect and integrated it with everything.. but it never senses the door closing... I've literally got two sensors that I bought on Amazon that were like $15 for the two pack that work better than the Shelly door sensor..

[glacial oracle]

I would try making sure that you inserted a full battery and are running the latest firmware

[lyric mortar]

Thanks; rebooting the host just means rebooting the machine (in this case, a Yellow), right? Assuming so, that didn't work, and neither did trying a different USB extension and plugging the SkyConnect directly into the Yellow.

Is it possible I have a bad SkyConnect? (If so, that'll be bad NVME from Seeed and a bad SkyConnect, all within the first 24 hours of trying to set up my Yellow - so much for "it just works!" haha)

[golden thorn]

Perhaps. Plug it in a different device and see if it's detected there.

[lyric mortar]

Later when my Z-wave stick arrives I can try that; otherwise, I'm all out of Home Assistant USB devices to test with, I'm afraid.

[golden thorn]

I meant plug the presumably defective item into another PC. Not another device into the same port.

[lyric mortar]

Is there any possibility that the delivered 'Zigbee Home Automation' integration is preventing the 'SkyConnect version' (so to speak) from appearing as newly discovered? I just noticed that in Settings > System > Hardware, there's a 'Home Assistant SkyConnect' entry with configuration options to enable multiprotocol ... which wouldn't show up if the device wasn't recognized, I'm guessing?

And, sorry for misunderstanding your suggestion - will do that next, thanks.

[terse pebble]

Yes. ZHA can only use one radio, the Yellow's or the SkyConnect's

[zinc bronze]

If its just mains 120/240v wiring they won't allow (safety, fire-risk reasons) then PoE ones might be ok, though I suspect they just don't want you drilling holes or risking damage to existing other wiring (or maybe providing ingress points for bugs/vermin?). If so, do you have sneaky other ways of running (low-voltage) wires, maybe alongside another bunch of wires? Anyway, Reolink (which we have the PoE doorbell of) are just launching a battery powered version this year I heard from CES (show) review articles. I did the sneaky PoE cable run (run the outdoor weather-protected version of ethernet cable alongside existing satellite dish cables, you can't tell cos all same colour and clipped in the same way; and into the property in the same hole which was a challenge but I did it!). And if asked about it, I can say its just networking - and if pushed further/they have worries, can say its low voltage (its 48V for 802.3af/at iirc) and very low current, and the switch providing the power is properly protected for over-voltage/shorting, a business-level device.

[naive salmon]

So I actually considered just poking a small hole opposite of my light switch and running the doorbell wire outside that with a transformer, but I’m only in this apt for 1 more year so I was just going to hold off and just use a crappy battery. I had no idea Reolink is making a battery one. I’m going to just get a cheap blink camera to hold me over

[lyric mortar]

So there are steps missing from the sky connect setup doc, it sounds like 😕 Thanks, I’ll try to figure out what to do next. Thanks as always for your replies

[lyric mortar]

Just to clarify, you're saying that in order to set up a SkyConnect on a Yellow, instead of following the setup instructions and looking for it to appear in the Integrations list, I should look for and follow instructions for doing something like changing the radio that the Zigbee Home Automation uses from the internal (Yellow) one, to the SkyConnect? Is that the general thrust of what I should be trying to do?

[terse pebble]

If you want to move the Zigbee radio, yes. If you want to use the SkyConnect for Thread, no. Use the OpenThread Border Router add-on instead in that case and select the SkyConnect there. The add-on will flash the Thread firmware.

[weary spoke]

i don't know if this is the right spot, but i have a zigbee update thats been stuck for 2 days now. what is the best way to get it to restart the upgrade process?

[lyric mortar]

I want to use it just for Zigbee, at least for now, so I’ll look for instructions for doing that. And maybe I’ll suggest edits to the team that maintain the documentation for that and for yellow, as this process has suggested a lot of small edits to perfect both and save future folks some headaches. Thanks again.

[tight sorrel]

which is the most economical hardware with the best power for Home Assistant my Rasberry 3 is too weak

[golden thorn]

A (U)SFF or Mini PC.

[delicate wigeon]

Hi fellas, looking for a patch panel recommendation for a new network cabinet (not going to install proper network cabinet IMO) - the patch panel's main purpose would be organizing cables coming from mounted POE cameras to the NVR and possibly other routes inside the cabinet

[pliant forum]

This.

[pliant forum]

What kind of cabinet are we talking? Like a legrand network box in the wall?

[delicate wigeon]

Just a closet really containing all networking stuff

[pliant forum]

How do the cables come out of the wall? Just a wall plate or do you have some other system.

You just want like a wall mount one?

https://a.co/d/1BdyjnS

I’m using this in my network box.

[golden thorn]

Why is that strip glued so poorly?

[outer knot]

@marsh parrot I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[lyric mortar]

Can anyone who's installed a ratgdo give me straight talk about how involved the wiring / installation is? I know it doesn't require soldering, but it still seems laborious / somewhat intimidating / potentially frustrating. Should I just get over my fears and spend $45 (and an afternoon, probably) trying it, would you say (without knowing me)?

[delicate wigeon]

Bare cables through a tunnel

[hexed skiff]

Has anyone, installed Home Assistant on a MeLE Mini PC 3C?

[tidal island]

I need to find either a z-wave or zigbee sensor that can turn on a sump pump if the water reaches it and then turn of the pump once the water has reseeded below where the sensor is. Is this possible?

[vague mantle]

I have no idea, but if you find a nice solution, I'd also propose that to my parents 😄 so pls ping me if you find something 😉
@marsh parrot

[devout parrot]

Sounds like you want a float switch + a relay of some kind. I'd look into building that with esphome or just buy dumb hardware myself.

[tired bridge]

if it's a mini pc, just treat it as any other x86 box

[gloomy nacelle]

is there a way to make old 6 gang light switches into smart one easily? Any suggestions what to get to do that? (zigbee and wifi preferable)

[winged knoll]

Smart modules, like the Sonoff and Aqara options (and many, many, others)

https://sonoff.tech/product/diy-smart-switches/minir4m/

[high cobalt]

Good evening, can you guys please recommend some Zigbee relay switches like the Aqara T1 that can work with a wall socket and not lights and dimmers. The Aqara one is only 10 Amps, I'd like one with 16 Amps

[glacial oracle]

i wouldnt trust those modules to switch anything close to what their rating is

especially in places where you run inductive loads they wont do any good

[vivid urchin]

Are there any recommended pre-built satellite devices currently available? The ESP32-S3-BOX-3 and co appear to be defunct now (showing as no-longer available from manufacturer everywhere even the official seller's page) and the few places that still have some say they can't be sold in the UK for some reason. Looking for something to replace Amazon Echo devices basically.

Or is "Raspberry Pi DIY" the best option now?

[steel lion]

asking in hardware but this is more of a software (OS) question. What would be the easiest OS to implement an automation in which a motion sensor informs HA of a motion event, and HA sends a wake screen command to a touchscreen computer? (This MIGHT be a hardware question if suggested OS doesnt support any of the monitor/touchscreens of the spare laptops i have laying about.)

pc to wake would be set in kiosk mode to simply display HA interface

[wild atlas]

Lol I have wall panel installed on an android tablet that does this all itself, wakes up the screen when the camera shows motion

Though I wonder if the home assistant desktop client can wake the screen

[tender spear]

Also very interested in basically the same question. I would like to get a small screen device in a room and a screenless device in an other.

[gloomy nacelle]

I would need 6 of these for 6 gang switch ?

[winged knoll]

Well, yes... unless you buy ones that support two switches and loads, when you'd need 3 (6/2)

[gloomy nacelle]

yeah thats the problem. I can fit 1 maybe 2 atmost. I can find 2 switch relays but not 3,4 nor 6 😐

[winged knoll]

They don't have to fit in the switch box 😉

You could fit them by the bulbs, or anywhere between the switch and the bulb

[vivid urchin]

Looks like this is the go-to for now. I misread it originally and thought it was only Push-to-talk but it's not. https://www.home-assistant.io/voice_control/thirteen-usd-voice-remote/

So that's fine for my use. Not the best, but should do for now.

[median notch]

Hello im trying to find a 240 volt smart light swich that works with matter without a hub but im having a hard time can someone help

[winged knoll]

(already re-directed to #matter-archived)

[glacial oracle]

Thats more of an #installation-archived question

[sudden narwhal]

What are people's favourite non-skyconnect USB Zigbee controller? And should I expect any issues with having both a controller and a hue hub (low device count, like 4 bulbs and 2 remotes)? I ahve my 2.4 wifi set to band 1 and 6, and my hue set to band 11 (25 in Zigbee channel number, I think). My HA is on a dedicated server box (old mediagate).

I just found the link in the #zigbee-archived channel: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#recommended-zigbee-radio-adapters-and-modules, cheers

[cold moon]

you really dont want multiple zigbee meshes like z2m + hue

you do want to do a zigbee energy scan prior to choosing your channel and adding devices to your zigbee mesh

[sudden narwhal]

I was kinda thinking that. I might move the hue stuff into HA directly and ditch the hue hub

[cold moon]

and choose the channel with least interference

yea i have around 50 devices with mostly hue bulbs all on z2m

[sudden narwhal]

is that relating to other interference? I live in the woods

[cold moon]

wifi, bluetooth, SSDs, all kinds of stuff

you're probably just gonna be fighting wifi only

[sudden narwhal]

Or is it just like a "dongle manufacturing is inconsistent" kinda thing

Yeah I already have my wifi and zigbee separated as mentioned, both wifi SSIDs on the band 1 and 6, and zigbee on band 11

so hue would be sharing with the controller until I decomission it on band 11

[cold moon]

ya i'd just replace hue bridge and take over channel 25 (we're talking about zigbee)

[sudden narwhal]

Makes sense

[cold moon]

i have and suggest a tube PoE coordinator

https://tubeszb.com/product/cc2652p7-zigbee-to-poe-coordinator-2023/ i use this one specifically

[sudden narwhal]

I'll add it to the research list!

[sudden narwhal]

How do you find controlling them? I actually like the Hue app, surprisingly. Is it possible to interface with it at all, or will I just be relying on HA integrations?

[cold moon]

no hue app

i just have automations setup i dont try to control one light with my phone

if i do i do it via homekit on ios instead

[sudden narwhal]

Hm interesting

Yeah stuff is mostly automated here, but I have a wife so ... manual controls mandatory lmao.

[cold moon]

like i share all my hue bulbs and other light switches and sensors to homekit

so i have full siri control

[sudden narwhal]

And sometimes those premade hue scenes just hit right when you wanna take a bath or something lol

[cold moon]

then pair them with smart light swtiches

[cold moon]

you can duplicate a scene in home assistant

[sudden narwhal]

Yeah I have 2 hue remotes, mostly I think I would just miss the scene gallery from hue. But I suppose I could probably import that .. surely someone's duplicated most of them already

[cold moon]

not really import but recreate

i havent looked for scene recreation from hue i just use diy led strips for color stuff

[sudden narwhal]

(realistically, losing the scene gallery from hue being my biggest concern is a good thing)

[cold moon]

the biggest thing is that all your hue bulbs are now repeaters for your zigbee mesh

and the hue bridge falls on its face with around 40 hue devices added to it but with a decent zigbee coordinator you can go 200+ (possibly best to split into two depending on stuff and things)

[sudden narwhal]

I don't anticipate going that big, atleast not for awhile lol.

[cold moon]

they add up quick

[sudden narwhal]

I do a lot of zwave, but I want to start grabbing some cheap sensors and stuff.

Set aside some money for it finally, so just doing my zigbee research now

[lyric mortar]

Are there any particularly good wallplate keypads that can trigger different lighting scenes, preferably in a Decora format? I'm looking to emulate the Lutron RA keypads without investing in RA3, etc ...

[cold moon]

well with home assistant anything can trigger scenes.. i have one of these "scene controllers" with multiple buttons and like it https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/collections/light-switches/products/zooz-700-series-z-wave-plus-scene-controller-switch-zen32

[lyric mortar]

That's just the kind of thing I'm looking for, I think; thank you. Do you know if I could wire this as the 'accessory' switch in a 3-way switch setup, use the big button to turn the accessory on and off, and use the four smaller "smart" buttons to trigger scenes via HA, theoretically?

[cold moon]

you could pair it with another zooz switch at the other location capable of direct 3way

actually ```How many ZEN32's do I need for a multi-pole (3-way/4-way) installation? Do I need to buy some kind of add-on switch?

Zooz switches are designed to be used with regular 3-way on/off switches. This means for a 3-way (2 switches controlling the same light) or a 4-way (3 switches controlling the same light) you only need to buy 1 ZEN32.```

https://www.support.getzooz.com/kb/article/1418-zen32-scene-controller-faqs/ taken from their FAQ

https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/blueprint_import/?blueprint_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.home-assistant.io%2Ft%2Fzen32-scene-controller-z-wave-js%2F292610 i use this blueprint to control it instead of manually with a bunch of automations

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zen32-scene-controller-z-wave-js/292610 direct link to it

[sudden narwhal]

I have 2 set up exactly like that.

One is paired with a dumb switch 3-way, the other is paired with a zooz dimmer 3-way (which switches the actual relay, the scene controller communicates with it when you push the big button).

The bottom 4 buttons, I use the LEDs in automations to represent the status of various things such as garage doors, security cameras, car remote start status, etc by changing the color of them. And then have some automations tied to them as well.

As an example, the one at my front door / entryway, I have a garage door automation button on my top right one. 1 click opens wifes door, 2 clicks opens my door, 3 clicks opens both, holding it closes both doors. Then it's blue if her door is open, red if mine is open, white if both open, no light if both closed.

They work really good, and very customizeable. Highly recommend the template linked above.

[lyric mortar]

Wow, very interesting (and exciting). Thank you both, @cold moon and @sudden narwhal ... !

[lyric mortar]

While people are being helpful ... does anyone have strong feelings (ideally backed up by experience) about Caseta vs another line of, maybe, z-wave or zigbee switches (without a hub)? I'm drawn to the Caseta because everyone says it's rock solid and will work even if my HA instance goes down, but should I rethink that for any reason (other than cost which is luckily not a big deal)?

[cobalt root]

I'm working on replacing my Echo Show device with an Android Tablet + browser mod + assist . Testing on an ancient Fire HD 7 tablet. I'd like to also use this device as a media device connected to BT speakers or wired for playing music. Can someone suggest a budget friendly, barebones tablet that can do all of the above? It will only be showing clock and other display screens and the music playing. I'm cool with used gear too. Seven inch screen is target

The old Fire HD 7 works for the most part but I cannot get it to play media with browser mod. Not sure if there is a preferred browser or method to get that to work.

[cold moon]

People say zwave is rock solid too. Im very happy with my zwave zooz light switches and if you’re not using them in smart bulb mode then they’re gonna work regardless of home assistant being on

[lyric mortar]

Thanks again!

[tawny viper]

Zooz is good, also this exists Minoston 800 Series Z-Wave Scene Controller, 4 ZWave Button, Zwave Plus Wall Switch Remote Control, Support Long Range, Work with Z Wave Hubs (MR40Z) https://a.co/d/cJxDn73

Different use case, battery

[lyric mortar]

Thanks!

[spiral jewel]

Is the Intel NUC Celeron J3455 too weak to run HASS?

[warped pasture]

Is there any e-ink displays that work well with HA? I saw a video on some from china but required quite a bit of hacking to get working.
I really like the idea of having little displays around the house showing status or updates on things.

[golden thorn]

No. It's faster than a pi 4. Use glances to see what actually uses the CPU.

[spiral jewel]

i just found cause my hass auto rebooting when i open Home Assistant on my phone

[golden thorn]

And how is that related to my post?

[spiral jewel]

My hass keeps restarting on its own and I'm looking for the cause.

[golden thorn]

I know. You posted that like 8 times by now as well as on github.

[spiral jewel]

This morning I used the web browser and hass didn't restart.
It rebooted as soon as I opened the home assistant app on my phone

sorry for borthering

i just found cause my hass auto rebooting when i open Home Assistant on my phone.
This morning I used the web browser and hass didn't restart.
It rebooted as soon as I opened the home assistant app on my phone

24-02-16 09:25:02 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.websocket] Connection is closed
24-02-16 09:25:02 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Error on call https://172.30.32.1:8123/api/core/state: Cannot connect to host 172.30.32.1:8123 ssl:False [Connection reset by peer]
24-02-16 09:25:02 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Error on call https://172.30.32.1:8123/api/core/state: Cannot connect to host 172.30.32.1:8123 ssl:False [Connection reset by peer]
24-02-16 09:25:02 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.misc.tasks] Watchdog missed an Home Assistant Core API response.
24-02-16 09:25:06 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Watchdog found Home Assistant failed, restarting...

[silk bobcat]

can you recommend a good outdoor smart plug ? My Tuya one is apparently shitt not very good. I'm in France, idc about the budget nor the protocol as long as it's HA compatible (already have a configured Zigbee key)

[outer knot]

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

• Which country you're in
• What your budget is
• What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
• Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)

[remote obsidian]

Not really sure what the best place to ask is, so figured i'd just try here. Does anyone know if there are any door bells that can be connected to homeassistant, which doesn't have video feeds?
Everything i find that has wifi/app has video as well. Any specific brands or models that are just wifi/app and no video?

[winged knoll]

https://frenck.dev/diy-smart-doorbell-for-just-2-dollar/

[remote obsidian]

I was rather looking for something to buy. I'm not good at diy stuff 😅

[steady blade]

Just stick any ZigBee/ZWave/ble/WiFi smart button out there?

[drifting ember]

did you even read the site? it boldy states no soldering needed

so "diy" is limited to turning about 4 screws

[lyric mortar]

I’m not OP, but I’ll just remark that stripping and crimping wires, flashing ESP boards, and such are often more than some folks want to or feel comfortable doing. I think that it’s okay to express interest in a delivered solution here without excessive criticism, personally.

[sudden narwhal]

Narrowed my list down to sonoff, skyconnect, and this. Is the advantage of this one the PoE?

Or is it known to be better in other ways

[cold moon]

well sonoff is a company so you should clarify p or e dongle. also you should really confirm if you want zha or z2m then decide. there's zero reason to buy a skyconnect or "e" sonoff dongle if you plan to use z2m

[delicate shell]

Hello, I just upgraded from a Raspberry Pi 4 to a HA Yellow. Everything is working apart from my Aeotec Z-Stick 7 - I only have one other device for it, a current clamp on the mains. I can't get the supervisor to load - it comes back with en error "Failed to start the Z-Wave JS add-on" which isn't too useful. If I select not to install Supervios JS I get the option to specify a localhost:3000 but that does not connect. I restored from a backup so wonder if that has upset it. Does anyone have any clues or is it time to say goodbye to WaveShare and get a ZigBee Current Clamp?

[cold moon]

Idk if that’s an upgrade more like a sidegrade lol

you probably had the zwave dongle setup with like /dev/ttyUSB0 instead of the by-id method

[sudden narwhal]

Fair enough, I have been looking at the 2 versions and haven't yet decided. Do you know of any good videos / articles that lay out pretty plainly what the difference is?

I did a lot of googling but all I could really find was "zha simple, z2m more complex but more options", not much in the way of actual use cases / examples.

[cold moon]

honestly i've just had this convo too many times and dont feel like doing it again lol

a lot of info on z2m vs zha is outdated

i prefer z2m and cc2652p chipset

[sudden narwhal]

You don't need to explain, just if you knew off the top of your head any content creators or anything that have gone over it in detail that I could watch/read myself

[cold moon]

not that i've watched recently and could recommend for accurate info

there's plenty i could point to that say "buy skyconnect, zha good"

[sudden narwhal]

Yeah I noticed a lot of the popular threads and articles were a couple years old, and I'm thinking "surely there's been improvements since then?"

[cold moon]

basically z2m has a dedicated product support page for literally every device they support and a more thorough dedicated gui for advanced control and management (including basic uses in my opinion)

[sudden narwhal]

Is the PoE adapter you linked z2m only?

[cold moon]

No

Cc2652p work fine on both

[vivid urchin]

So I grabbed some of those Atom devices but they seem pretty useless. The wakeword doesn't work unless I hold it up to my mouth like those influencers who don't know how to use a lapel mic. Tried different wake words, didn't help matters. The room is completely silent so background noise isn't an issue either. Any tips?

[cold moon]

#voice-assistants-archived

[vivid urchin]

Thanks

[terse pebble]

#zwave-archived can help with the Z-Wave JS setup

[delicate shell]

Thanks didn't see that right away

[sudden narwhal]

Has anyone had good (or bad) experience grabbing cheap zigbee stuff off AliExpress?

[ruby flare]

Hi all

I am new user

Could you provide me with the most suitable hardware solution for the Zigbee of RPI4?

[glacial oracle]

depending on wether you prefer zha or z2m, their respective documentations contains compatible and recommended gateway solutions

[golden thorn]

See pins in #zigbee-archived

[rich ruin]

What's up guys I bought a curtain closer/opener. I thought it was smart but turns out it's just a remote control it works well but I really want to have it in HA. I know there are IR smart devices I don't know where to start. What is cheap hardware I can make my curtain controllers smart?

[cold moon]

future you: please just buy stuff that is already known to work with home assistant

[winged knoll]

This though may be a good opportunity to learn about ESPs and soldering

||and then buy something known to work after you destroy that thing||

[cold moon]

ir tranceiver yea

idk

working with RF like 433mhz and IR just feels like going backwards in time not forwards

[winged knoll]

433 is great when you don't need two way communication and are happy to miss stuff

[rich ruin]

The funny thing is I did read it right they are Zigbee and I got them paired. The only problem is there is no open and close it just gives the light levels in the room. So I can't open them. They were from ali didn't want to spend 300 for this functionality. Looking at managing the device it looks like I could maybe make my own commands and they could be set up to work I'm just externally confused how.

[rich ruin]

I actually have a ton of said so many things I can do with them that I had no idea I'm planning on setting up a few Honey Pots that look like synology nas in case my network got Brecher. I had no idea I could do this when I bought like 10 of them wholesale

[winged knoll]

#zigbee-archived can help with Zigbee stuff

[cold moon]

Sounds like you paired the remote not the actual blinds?

[west island]

Any recommendations for security alarm systems? Replacing nest secure. Wanted something that is compatible with HA but also has its own app.Preferably Matter (if there is any 😀)

[rich ruin]

I didn't touch the remotes. I just used the pairing method on the blinds without Tuya. I'm thinking with some code or something I could make it work. I guess I'll post in Zigbee

[cold moon]

So no wires in the wall?

[rich ruin]

Unifi

[west island]

Yup no wires in wall. Does unifi has the base system

[rich ruin]

And just motion door sensors and sirens.

[cold moon]

No that’s crazy

[cold moon]

Are you wanting a standalone system with hass integration but also remote monitoring or?

[rich ruin]

Unifi is usually POE stuff more for corporate but I love it

[cold moon]

UniFi access is an access control system he’s talking about a home security alarm system

[west island]

Yeah standalone system with integration to HA

[rich ruin]

Yeah and I have the cameras that sense motion could trigger just zigbee Sirens

[cold moon]

@pliant forum has some good suggestions for alarm systems with hass integration

[rich ruin]

Might be able to trigger the unifi cams to make sound too.

[cold moon]

Abode and simplisafe are high on the list I think

[rich ruin]

I mean basically just need door sensors and motion sensors of some kind then there's tons of awesome integrations for HA.

You just want the thing to call the police firemen?

[west island]

Yeah true . Since this is security I need a backup app in case HA doesn’t respond(been pretty stable until now)

[rich ruin]

You could have any activity make noise easily and notify as many people as you want. I would never pay monthly for a security system. I have an awesome alarm.

[west island]

Thats awesome , a big no to subs

[rich ruin]

Run a second server. I don't use two servers but I have a pretty advanced backup system just for my little HA Server for this reason.

[cold moon]

https://smarthomescene.com/guides/alarmo-make-your-own-alarm-system-in-home-assistant/ this is what I use

[rich ruin]

If the power was cut by an intruder everything would still work.

[cold moon]

But people get discounts from insurance for monitoring

[west island]

Thanks for sharing

[west island]

Sounds like an option

[lyric mortar]

I’m in awe of people who are willing to roll their own security system. No sarcasm, no shade; it’s impressive, but I know I could never.

[rich ruin]

Yeah does it pay for itself though? If I saved more than I paid I would obviously do it but I feel like they wouldn't do that.

[lyric mortar]

I think you’re right; they charge a premium on top of potential savings for “peace of mind”

[pliant forum]

If you don’t have an existing alarm I’d probably go with Abode or a Qolsys IQ4 panel from SuretyHome.

[rich ruin]

Hey subscriptions are a dime a dozen I know alarms can be super expensive but if someone breaks into my house there would be tons of alerts to family they can call the police or fire.

[pliant forum]

Both can be locally integrated with HASS, if you don’t think you’ll ever need professional monitoring just roll your own alarm with some zigbee / zwave sensors.

[west island]

Thanks , will check them. I currently have nest secure but its end of support soon

[pliant forum]

👍 I think both Abode and Alarm.com monitoring from SuretyHome are around $15-20/month.

If you get the qolsys panel you can self monitor for free though I think.

[rich ruin]

I've actually seen basically what I'm talking about but the control panel even has a SIM card and can all the authorities if no response. Would need to pay for a cheap data Sim though.

[pliant forum]

Just use the QolsysGW integration from HACS

and that gives you the option for professional monitoring in the future from a company

[rich ruin]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256336606884?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=zekBYuA9TRm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=zekBYuA9TRm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Calls the police with battery backup unless they cut the internet which is rare. Then it can default to a sim card.

I mean my network has a large battery backup if power went out lots of people would need the Sim

[west island]

Wow did not even know that this thing existed. The SIM card feature is nice

[pliant forum]

Dunno if I would trust a Tuya system as an alarm 😛

Especially giving it wifi and cellular access

[rich ruin]

Yeah I'm sure you could integrate it with HA and use all your own stuff on top of it and still get the Sim backup to call authorities.

[pliant forum]

Yeah I’m sure it integrates fine, but it needs internet access to call authorities which also means it can talk to the Tuya servers which aren’t known for being very privacy friendly lol

[rich ruin]

Just block it from wifi and use sim only.

[pliant forum]

You could do that but it’ll still communicate with their stuff either way. Only thing I could think of is using it with Home Assistant and having Home Assistant call the alarm but then it’s mostly useless at that point.

at that point you should just get some sensors that connect via zigbee or zwave

[rich ruin]

Yup there might be a base system only that uses a sim

[pliant forum]

For the price of a cheap SIM card you could also just get a US based monitoring service and get a panel that has an API that’ll work with HASS 😛

[rich ruin]

I feel like just a 250-dollar battery to keep your HA is the best option like I have.

[pliant forum]

And the US based service will likely be UL listed and give you an insurance discount

(Assuming you’re in the US)

[rich ruin]

Maybe check it out

I feel comfortable with my setup. But I have like a corporate setup. I'm trying to do it as a living and setting one up yourself is a good way to learn.

[pliant forum]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/386734196947 - IQ4 is about $250 for the touchscreen hub then maybe $100-200 extra if you want a couple of sensors. Also gives you the option to use the equipment to self monitor or eventually get a cellular/IP based monitoring service.

And it all integrates with HASS locally

[rich ruin]

I even have a switch that turns on a generator. I don't care if the police are called I can call them if something happens. I would want to look at the cameras see it there is a real threat anyway. I turn my notifications off at night but if I'm out I have just HA on and if I'm there sirens will wake everyone up.

[pliant forum]

Yeah I’m sure your setup will work. I just don’t really trust HA as being my “only alarm system.” I’d rather have a ready made purpose built system for that and then if it can interface with HASS that’s a bonus

[pliant forum]

The sensor estimate is probably a bit exaggerated you can get 5 motion sensors for $70 about. https://www.ebay.com/itm/326012129530

[echo coral]

Ring key pad, sensors around my house. Free monitoring and done.

But I agree with you in sense of security

I wouldn't just trust ha

[pliant forum]

Yeah that’s totally an option.

💯

One auto update or something could break the alarm the night a break in happens 😉

[cold moon]

On some level we have to trust home assistant whether it’s our alarm system or not

[rich ruin]

Yeah but unifi has it's own thing too that's free.

[pliant forum]

Oh yeah 100%. I think personally for me though I care less about my lights automatically turning on than I do my alarm going off when it’s needed 🤣

[echo coral]

Funny... We trust ha with pretty much everything lol

[cold moon]

For me I feel safe and confident in my hass and diy alarmo setup but I understand what you mean

[echo coral]

I tested this shit today unintentionally and the ring key pad scare the crap out of me.

[cold moon]

I split out all my other hardware like network, server, cameras, hvac all separated

[cold moon]

It’s great

apparently there are a shitload of ringtones you can use

Err siren tones?

[echo coral]

It works that's for sure. It will definitely do the job.

[cold moon]

Like sea shanties and shit @echo coral

[pliant forum]

I just really like that ready made systems have their own battery, cell solution and sensor solutions because it allows a ton of expandability and redundancy. And I don’t have to deal with tons of separate hardware, it’s all in one typically.

[echo coral]

Yup

[pliant forum]

I have a Vista 20P in my house and I can buy probably hundreds of different modules for it (and sensors) I can also integrate it into HASS and use HASS sensors to trigger it if I want.

[echo coral]

I have a voip system with cell backup so the automation rule detects no internet but needs to send an event it routes an SMS msg through the voip and out the lte gateway

That's my alarm system m backup if it goes off and internet is cut off

Yes I host a asterisk pbx

[cold moon]

Weirdo

[rich ruin]

The cameras can make noise and has advanced AI and basically has an alarm kinda it will send me notifications. So that is two things and unifi is expensive but amazing. Got the doorbell. Now I don't pay a cent to ring which I did for year's. It just pisses me off making you pay a subscription to use something you bought which a us basically unifia mantra against Cisco that charges companies thousands a year. Unifi cameras are more than ring but I bet they outlast the rings and they're wired so no battery and no subscription. I have a vendetta against companies that after you buy something charge you to use it. Like fuck off.

[echo coral]

I am. I some how like complex shit in my life except complex wife's 😂🤣😂

[pliant forum]

Oh anything outlasts Ring basically.

Ring is like one of the worst of the worst.

[cold moon]

Buy her a cube

[pliant forum]

I have a family member that insists on Ring. He also ran CCA Ethernet around his house but that’s a whole other story 🤣

[cold moon]

CCA is fine it’s just shit

Ring is blasphemy

[rich ruin]

Ubiquiti UniFi Protect G4 Doorbell (UVC-G4-DoorBell) https://a.co/d/egE4MCw

Looks better too and has two cameras.

[pliant forum]

Doorbell Pro has two cams

[lyric mortar]

I have Ring, but I know enough to be ashamed

[cold moon]

That’s the non pro model and selling above actual price lol

[echo coral]

This is my vendetta right now and many are helping me unglue from this shit. @cold moon to mention a few

[rich ruin]

Yeah that's what I have.

[pliant forum]

Regular G4 Doorbell is discontinued afaik

[cold moon]

The only thing acceptable with ring is if the device is zwave and can be directly connected

[cold moon]

I don’t think so

[pliant forum]

same family member that has ring also has a ton of Tuya light switches aswell so there’s that too 😂

[lyric mortar]

That’s my plan … eventually

[echo coral]

I just bought the wifi one. It's here tomorrow

[pliant forum]

It’s not sold anymore at the very least

[cold moon]

Not sold or consistently out of stock

[pliant forum]

It hasn’t been in stock for over a year

[cold moon]

Yea

But that’s just ubiquiti being ubiquiti

[rich ruin]

I wasn't paying attention. I just set it all up. Had to borrow a hammer drill and buy a special bit to drill though the concrete but I never had a doorbell. And now it's connected right to my switch.

[pliant forum]

I don’t think it’s on their store anymore actually

let me double check

[cold moon]

I looked not too long ago

So their only option is a $300 doorbell or more for Poe kit?

[pliant forum]

Ok it’s on there but it’s sold out

[pliant forum]

As of now yeah

[rich ruin]

It was a little over 3 with the POE kit.

[echo coral]

Hu? I just bought one lol

[cold moon]

My doorbell non pro died and they rma’d it

[pliant forum]

I heard they were sending out pros for RMAed reg units

[rich ruin]

They have 250 regular ones on Amazon I just shared a link.

[cold moon]

They made me send the old one back first I was like sick I’ll just have a hold by my front door for a week

[pliant forum]

You shouldn’t buy Ubiquiti from Amazon

[cold moon]

This was a while ago

[pliant forum]

they’re all overpriced and don’t have warranties

Amazon isn’t an official reseller of Ubiquiti

[rich ruin]

Yeah, I bought directly from them. I'm just saying.

[west island]

Prime😀 ubiquiti has a shipping fee

[pliant forum]

If something goes wrong with the product you’re SOL.

[rich ruin]

I got the completely unnecessary wifi 7 access point and their MIA

[pliant forum]

I love Amazon and quick shipping but I learned a while ago not to buy Ubiquiti gear from there

[rich ruin]

I only have one wifi 7 device and it's wired anyway.

[pliant forum]

Pays (quite literally) to wait a tad bit until they get stock on their website and pay less from Ubiquiti

[rich ruin]

Future proofing I guess.

[pliant forum]

Oh wow.. prices must have came down from scalped levels

Dunno if I would still buy though

[rich ruin]

Yeah I thought so

The wifi 7 is being scalped though.

[pliant forum]

In stock on Ubiquitis site it seems

[cold moon]

no one should love amazon they're a terrible company in every sense of the word

[rich ruin]

Oh it was sold out for a bit

[pliant forum]

I agree with that, I just meant in terms of quick shipping

[cold moon]

i saw my shot and took it

[pliant forum]

Their practices are horrible

Apparently tons of people have started having issues with Amazon accepting returns

[cold moon]

i use it but only because i cant afford not to with certain items

[pliant forum]

This was the main reason I used them for some stuff

They used to not care at all and just give you a return even years after purchase lol

[cold moon]

for me it's usually same price or cheaper off amazon than other retailers (stuff like 3d printer accessories for example)

the alternative is alie and wait a month

[pliant forum]

Yeah that’s something too

[echo coral]

Yeah, I bought one, you scared me talking about all this outstock stuff LOL

[rich ruin]

Yeah cracked down on sending them broken shit back. Not gonna say I didn't do it once or twice.

[rich ruin]

What did you buy?

[echo coral]

The G4 Doorbell

[rich ruin]

Getcha

The pro is awesome.

[echo coral]

thats te one I bought

[rich ruin]

I assume you have a regular doorbell?

[echo coral]

and a cloudkey

the pro

[rich ruin]

Don't need that but easier.

I have one too. You can run it on a computer server I found our later.

[echo coral]

https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/collections/unifi-camera-security-special-wifi-doorbell/products/uvc-g4-doorbell-pro?variant=UVC-G4+Doorbell+Pro-US

Thats the one I bought

bought the key because I am switching all my cameras

so hey is easier I guess

[echo coral]

I am interested to know more though

[rich ruin]

Oh okay you have a doorbell or you doing POE? That's what I had to do.

[echo coral]

I have a doorbell

[rich ruin]

With the cloud key you can run like a bunch or locations.

That's good.

Next project is an esp32 🍯

I find that so fuckin cool.

[cold moon]

you got a unvr or something right?

[cold moon]

it's a bottomless pit

[rich ruin]

It looks on the network like a synergy NAS. But it's a tiny chip and I can see if motherfuckers got into my network.

I got the NVR

[cold moon]

you buy one esp32 for an led strip project and next thing you know you're here

[echo coral]

yes

[rich ruin]

It all looks like shit now. Using pfSense as a firewall for extra security. But now I got all this server equipment and no actual rack. I didn't wanna pay 200 dollars for a shelf 😆

But I just found one for 25 bucks and the guy is throwing in 3 switches the one is like 40 ports. He said he doesn't know anything about them if they work if they're managed. Could really make out everything was 25 dollars.

It was 2 hours from me and 15 minutes from my uncle so he picked it up. I'm going tomorrow. There might be some crap old switches but who knows. 25 bucks for an 8U rack and 3 switches is unbeatable.

I'll find out tomorrow if the switches are worth something. I don't need ones that big I'm good with all my unifi stuff but might do well on eBay if their manager and have POE and stuff but I couldn't even tell the brands or model numbers in the pictures.

Managed

[cold moon]

it's hard for me to even think about anything non-unifi now

100% of my cameras and network are managed from one place and it's pretty nice

[rich ruin]

I've been getting super lucky met this guy that ran a computer store. Was super cool and gave me a retired 8-bay computer. Full server mountable. He said it's not worth that much because they are so heavy and cost so much to ship. But I looked them up on eBay and they looked like they were worth money. I'm just going to set it up for the experience.

[cold moon]

i still have old xeons going

for what i use them for it all works fine but still it's ancient shit

[rich ruin]

Yeah but pfSense is definitely more secure.

Yeah think that's what it is.

[cold moon]

all the cool kids say opnsense devs and the project is just better than pfsense

[rich ruin]

Well, they took away a free option which pissed off a ton of people. There's still a free edition. I use my own equipment.

Got this and its fast as fuck way faster than the official unless you wanted to spend a few grand.

I think the Community Edition is like a month behind in updates besides security updates.

[cold moon]

i've heard netgate machines are good so if i was deploying pfsense for a business i'd prob use them

[rich ruin]

Not that deep to me.

[cold moon]

but in general i'm never gonna touch router/switch CLI again

cuz life is too short and i paid my dues with ccna classes years ago

fuck all of that shit

[rich ruin]

Yeah they are but this is working great now. This range I couldn't get that power.

I heard the unifi routers sucked. But the new one is better. But can it run snort and let me block all advertisements in my network? So many free resources on Unifi. I don't like the pretty app missing some stats but pros and cons.

[cold moon]

unifi is for guys who dont want to fuck with shit lol

[rich ruin]

Weird pfSense is on FreeBSD like the only people supporting it are Netflix and Netgate. Some open people but the whole FreeBSD is mainly run by them I wonder why Netflix

[cold moon]

sounds like you enjoy tinkering which usually is not what sends people down the unifi path

like their ips/ids is some ancient version of suricata i think

if you're willing, you absolutely can do better DIY

me and a lot of others are not willing lol

[rich ruin]

Yeah I feel you

I'm trying to really learn. But I loves their switches and their pretty apps and stats.

I liked not having to pay fees on either!

[cold moon]

@neat gazelle re: #integrations-archived message are you familiar with zigbee and hue?

[neat gazelle]

@cold moon I should have clarified...any st19 bulbs that change colors supported?

[cold moon]

rgbw*

[neat gazelle]

@cold moon I've used zigbee in the past...it's been a minute

i'm looking for a bulb I can set red when I'm in a meeting, green when I'm not 🙂

[cold moon]

actually no i have no idea for rgb bulbs that are also that weird edison look

[neat gazelle]

yeah, I bought this (https://www.amazon.com/GE-Changing-Lights-Bluetooth-Google/dp/B09ZQ6DKPB) which changes colors exactly as I'd hoped, but it's Cync

[cold moon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/r4cpp3/do_it_yourself_on_air_sign_for_zoom_with_home/ get creative noob

[rich ruin]

Never even heard of that brand.

[cold moon]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5264844 kinda cool

[neat gazelle]

lol

[rich ruin]

I got a matter color bulb for free buying something else. Curious it HA will be able to run it.

[neat gazelle]

@cold moon my wife will only allow the bulb

@rich ruin it's GE Cync

[cold moon]

so want an rgbw bulb (ideally edison but let's ignore that for now) and you dont have zwave or zigbee, just wifi and home assistant, correct?

[cold moon]

jump to #matter-archived also you are crazy matter and thread are beta at best

[rich ruin]

I know matter is in beta

[cold moon]

https://www.athom.tech/blank-1/wled-15w-color-bulb this is the easy answer

[rich ruin]

It was free.

[neat gazelle]

@cold moon I'm just coming back to hass after a few years. I have a zigbee or zwave dongle somewhere around here

[cold moon]

they sell a 7w smaller bulb but the 15w one is apparently nice and bright (it's also physically a large bulb tho)

i'd want a "status light" to really be bright imo

[neat gazelle]

Won't work...gotta be st19

[cold moon]

derp one min

[neat gazelle]

but if I can control cync with zigbee/zwave I'm cool with that. I'lld o some digging

just found my dongle....z-stick gen5 aeotec

[rich ruin]

I have 100 percent Hue literally everywhere and don't even know where it would go. Curious about matter though.

[cold moon]

where it would go?

you move off the hue bridge to zigbee2mqtt or zha

[rich ruin]

Maybe like a spare room.

I actually have stayed on hue because I even have sync and it's super badass.

[cold moon]

lol

do you mean the syncbox?

or rgbw lights and syncing stuff with music

[rich ruin]

Yeah

[cold moon]

hyperion / hyperHDR open source projects blow the hue syncbox out of the water

[rich ruin]

And the strip around my tv 4 bars. Around my monitor that can sync with the monitor.

[cold moon]

it's not even close

[rich ruin]

Never heard of them ill definitely check it out I love all the color options.

Use ZHA for everything else.

[cold moon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672223433907765288/1147288029736743042/IMG_7221.mov

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672223433907765288/1147288111181729842/71416456556__D69FD905-B379-471E-9E4F-DE4B1E8ADCFF.mov

[rich ruin]

Then I have the cheaper light strips behind my bar and behind my turntable and behind my massive record collection. And it all syncs perfectly with the TV.

[cold moon]

look how reactive they are and then go look at your hue thing

[rich ruin]

My entire living room lights up and syncs to the TV.

It's overkill.

[cold moon]

i understand what you're saying

i'm saying the protocols and hardware you used cost more and are proprietary and the DIY FOSS versions are better

lol

for example, this doesnt go through hdmi passthru at all it's just sending the data over the network

so there's no distortion and can do 4k @ high fps

[rich ruin]

Honestly, the actual sync box was giving me a problem with my HDR10 with my receiver there is an android app that works super well .

Can this app sync all the light strips and overhead lights?

[cold moon]

yes

https://www.ledfx.app/

[rich ruin]

I'll definitely check it out.

[cold moon]

there's an intro video there for ledfx, a different project, but that's the same type of thing you could do basically

[cold moon]

just to clarify, you literally would not be able to use the hue zigbee controllers you'd have to diy this whole thing

i think you can reuse the hue led strips but i have no experience with them myself

[rich ruin]

I would need to get all new bulbs?

Just hook it up directly to my sky right?

That's what you mean right?

[tawny viper]

I have 3 if anyone wants them

[cold moon]

send em over

[tawny viper]

i lose money if i pay to ship

they were to big, and they didn't fit

and yes thats what she said

[high cobalt]

Hello, since we can flash the Atom Echo with the Media Player firmware and use it as a media player on HA, can I hook it to an external speaker to have a louder sound?

https://shop.m5stack.com/products/atom-echo-smart-speaker-dev-kit

[rich venture]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005829920989.html
did anyone tried integrating this rgbw controller into HA (WIFI RGBW variant)

[high cobalt]

I have the RGB WiFi, it works

According to the docs, the RGBW is also supported

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/flux_led

[full dagger]

This might be kind of niche, so I wonder if anyone has info on this. But I am looking to setup a saltwater fish tank, and I am wanting HA compatible sensors that can give me as much data as possible, such as water temperature, pH level, filter status, water level, etc. Does anyone know of such a suite of sensors or combination I could use to integrate all of this together in HA? Thanks!

[rich venture]

Nice nice, will order a couple of them then, thanks

[candid current]

I know nothing about aquariums so pardon the naive question: what level of precision do you need for temp/pH/salinity/etc ?

[full dagger]

That a good question. I would assume any reasonable device would have decent enough precision. I don't need scientific levels of data, just enough to monitor when actions need to be taken.

[candid current]

This is almost a decade old, but maybe a decent starting point https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/guide-how-to-control-neptune-apex-using-google-home.319864/

Or if you're more of a tinkerer, it can be done for very cheap (like $40) if you want to DIY with an ESP8266 and sensors.

I have an esp+TDS sensor setup, which is more or less the same idea

Saltwater adds a wrinkle to it though, electronics don't last long in it

[pliant forum]

I have a very similar controller that uses Magic Home and I’ve had some issues with it disconnecting from WiFi and becoming unavailable in HA. It claims it has low signal strength in my UniFi app but everything else has excellent signal strength, so not sure if the wifi radio just sucks or if my wifi needs extending (doubt it)

[sudden narwhal]

Anyone know of a multi-directional zigbee IR blaster that lets you choose which directions a command goes? Do they all do this (or not do this)?

I have 2 LED ceiling lights that have a remote, I want to mount the blaster between them. But I also want to be able to send commands to only 1 of the lights sometimes, and they use the exact same remote, you just point it at the light you want.

[patent river]

No recommendations sorry, but I googled it and found these batteries that must be in witness protection:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61D7exiwzgL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

[silk locust]

Hello !
Looking for random advice. NUC, Yellow or green? :x

[sudden narwhal]

Yeah I can't find anything that specifically confirms or denies if you can control the direction. :/

[sudden narwhal]

green obviously, since you're a monk.

[patent river]

If you're willing to go the DIY route it looks like esphome supports multiple transmitters on one device, so you could make something with the LEDs pointing in different directions

[silk locust]

Haha yeah you got me here !

[sudden minnow]

If you want a value option look for a 2nd hand Dell 3040 or similar rather than a NUC

[sudden narwhal]

I bought a used media server that had an SSD on my local FB marketplace for like $80CAD. Works fantastic, installed HAOS to the disk directly.

[fiery night]

If you’re still looking and looking for a deal, I switched from the white WiFi model there to the PoE one (because the mesh in my stucco wall killed reception outside the house), so I have one lying around.

$100 + shipping and it’s yours. I also have the AC adapter (if needed) and a passive PoE converter is you want power only over PoE. Those I can throw in for free.

[pliant forum]

Oh wow, that’s a really good offer. I’ll think about it and get back to you. Does the doorbell have any issues or anything? (Button peeling off etc?)

[fiery night]

Nah. I used it for about 9 months.

Reception was bad, but that’s because the stucco is basically a faraday cage.

[pliant forum]

👍, just realized you were talking about the regular G4 doorbell. Still a really good deal.. I think I’m gonna hold off for the Pro though just because I want that package cam lol. Appreciate the offer though man

[cold moon]

It’s the non pro model?

[fiery night]

Yes. Non pro.

[cold moon]

My reception on mine isn’t great either but still works fine

[pliant forum]

It’ll probably sell fast if you list it on r/homelabsales @fiery night

[fiery night]

I got it because I planned to upgrade as soon as a PoE model came out, which I did. Unfortunately couldn’t wait because I had just remodeled and had the electrician remove the old doorbell and install Cat 6. Oops!

[pliant forum]

Can probably get more than $100 too lol

[fiery night]

Oh. Nice! I’ll try there.

Between the two I’m very hundreds of dollars long on doorbells. It would be great to recoup something. Hah

[outer steppe]

what's your guys' preferred brands for HA, preferrably devices that don't have to connect to someone elses' servers to work with HA?

[golden thorn]

Everything #zigbee-archived.

[fiery night]

Yea. Z-Wave or Zigbee anything for me. Not only are they offline by default, their protocols demand that devices conform to generic device categories. This makes them pretty well supported by HA. WiFi is hit or miss.

[patent river]

You were powering yours from 24VDC too? I've been extremely happy with how well that's worked.

[fiery night]

Via a PoE, yea.

[patent river]

I notice the PoE one finally comes in white now, I was considering upgrading mine. Didn't want a black doorbell.

Weirdly only if you buy the one that comes with the chime
https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/cameras-doorbells/products/uvc-g4-doorbell-pro-poe-kit?variant=uvc-g4-doorbell-pro-poe-kit-white

[fiery night]

Oh, that’s cool. Is it only sold in a bundle with chime still? I had a WiFi chime already and had to buy a PoE one with my doorbell. Thankfully I found someone who would buy it off me.

Ah. Yea

I think it’s most likely because of either making it harder for people scalping or because it doesn’t support a mechanical chime and they don’t want people to complain.

[patent river]

Probably the latter

I've been perfectly happy with my Home Assistant based chime, that tells the Google Home speakers to play an MP3

I still think what Ubiquiti should be doing though is making a 1000Base-T1 (ethernet over single pair) version.
Even figure-eight bell wire - while far from ideal - should be fine to carry that for a few metres.
Compared to the ugly solution that was the USB-C PoE adapter and the giant hole you need to make to get that through the wall.

I mean strictly doesn't need to be gigabit either, could stick with 100M

Which would make the cabling even less of an issue

[outer steppe]

just picked up a google nest mini for $5. what tinkering can i do with it and HA?

[raw cosmos]

I want to add 2, 5m led strips (Yellow color), one on the left and one on the right.
My power (Green color) is on the left side and I want to control both via Wi-Fi.
From what I understand I want

• 2 Led strips https://www.btf-lighting.com/collections/led-light-strip/products/5m-5050-rgbw-led-strip-lights-rgbww-led-strips-lighting-4-in-1-rgbww-led-strip-rgbw-5pin-60leds-m-12v-24v-waterproof-mixed-color?variant=44314601521378
• 2 WB5 https://www.btf-lighting.com/products/wifi-alexa-voice-5-in-1-google-assistance-controller-5ch-rgb-rgbw-cct-dimmer-bluetooth-led-light-strip-ios-android-tuya-12v-24v?variant=44100629496034

Is that correct?
Is there any possibility I can connect the 2 LED strips into 1 WB5? Both lights will be handled as 1.
Do I need anything more? Is the power going to be ok?

[dusky anchor]

Hi quick question. new to home assistant and looking for a zigbee/thread/matter hub. I'm between the skyconnect usb and waiting for Aqara's new m3 hub. can someone help me weigh those two options?

[glacial oracle]

Best option would be to not use a hub at all

[dusky anchor]

and how would i pair home assistant to zigbee endpoints in that case?

[glacial oracle]

Rather check out the direct attached (or poe) gateway solutions recommended by either the zha or z2m page

Those hubs usually yield no additional value, may be more difficult to integrate or even be partially locked down

[dusky anchor]

is there one gateway solution you would recommend over others?

I'm currently running home assistant on a raspberry pi 4 if that makes any difference

[glacial oracle]

both the z2m and zha page list a couple of recommended devices. youd choose either solution after device compatibilits / your need.

sometimes availability for those matters but generally its open to your preference

[dusky anchor]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#recommended-zigbee-radio-adapters-and-modules talking this right?

[glacial oracle]

yes

[dusky anchor]

skyconnect listed but not good? im confused

[glacial oracle]

only the multiprotocol support isnt as properly working as it needs to be

[dusky anchor]

ah i see. I was also previously looking at the Sonoff usb's but thought the skyconnect would be better at future proofing my setup

[glacial oracle]

its the same as usual, we wont actually know until we get there

[dusky anchor]

i may have misunderstood your original message, you don't reocmmend any hub but skyconnect isn't a hub

[glacial oracle]

yes

[dusky anchor]

my b

[glacial oracle]

only thing you may additionally want to invest in if you are using it on a rasberry pi would be a powered usb hub and a usb extension cable
usb power delivery is very limited on those boards and that can cause stability issues.

[dusky anchor]

good to know

the skyconnect comes with a usb extension cable I believe?

[glacial oracle]

i am not sure, the product page would specify

[dusky anchor]

can confirm it does

i think I'm leaning that route

even if it doesn't yield any benefits over the sonoff in the future

i can't help myself lol

[glacial oracle]

its fine to buy, i suppose they figure out what needs to be done on the thread end of things in the future

[dusky anchor]

hope so

thanks for your help!

[tame magnet]

I’m looking for an energy-monitoring smart plug:

• Zigbee, Matter/Thread, Matter/WiFi, or ESPHome/WiFi
• Works well with HA (obviously)
• Reputable manufacturer
• Rated for a full 15 amps continuous (one of them will be powering a space heater)

I tried some from thirdreality, but between my UPS triggering often when plugged in to one and a horror story I saw on reddit, I’m returning them and looking for something more trustworthy. Eve Energy is the current frontrunner… any other suggestions?

[cold moon]

i would expect none of them to sustain 15a continuous with something like a space heater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIB3kWqqAzE

even my philips hue one rated at 15a got hot and the relay would not engage even tho i was turning it off and on. it worked once it cooled down again

[tame magnet]

there are some out there that use the power sensor to switch the relay during the AC zero-crossing (though the only one i'm aware of that does that is the sonoff dualr3, which is only specced for 10A)

[cold moon]

i have heard to use contactors instead but i have no experience with them

[tame magnet]

contactors are very similar to relays (generally somewhat different internal construction, but the same principle of "applying voltage to the coil creates a magnetic field which pulls some contacts together")

anyway I won’t be turning it off and on very often… I was hoping for something off-the-shelf, “doesn’t get melty at 80% of rated current” seems like it shouldn’t be too much to ask

[sterile sapphire]

I'm running HAOS on a mini Proxmox PC in my office. Still in the early stages of planning and testing. I'd like to get it out of the office eventually and while my original plan was to put it in a network closet that is central to my house, I'm starting to get concerned that it may get too hot in there. So, my backup plan is to locate it in the basement next to my NAS. However, if I move it to the basement, and it is no longer centrally located, I can't co-locate it with any zigbee/zwave/BT usb adapters and I'd have to do something like ethernet. Any thoughts on this? Should I try to make my network closet work? Or is using adapters via ethernet perfectly fine?

[golden thorn]

Depending on the size/ventilation of the closet and the hardware it might be okay. Network equipment can also be power hungry and get hot. I'd try that first before investing money. Otherwise PoE "adapters" might make sense. What's the reason for moving it somewhere else?

[sterile sapphire]

I keep my house pretty cold in the winter time and I opened up the network closet where I have two routers, cable modem, and UPS and it felt warm in there. I'm just imagining now putting a PC in there and it being summer time when the house is much warmer.

[fringe crater]

I use a cheap raspberry pi (old version ok) to host all my dongles, which is separate from my HA server.

[golden thorn]

Warm is relative/subjective. I'd put a thermometer in there and measure.

[sterile sapphire]

Fair point. I could be overly worried.

[sterile sapphire]

I didn't realize something like that was an option. I thought it was usb dongle vs ethernet hub with the latter being less common.

[fringe crater]

Zigbee2MQTT and ZwaveJS can run as standalone software, and then the HA server just communicates to it, but doesn't run those addons itself.
Not saying it's the best option, but it's just one of many options.

[hardy drum]

Hello, are there any good Multisensors that are recommended? (Temp, Humidity, Motion, Presence (?) LUX etc) I dont mind what protocol / way to connect they use as i just start out

[winged knoll]

Fibaro and Aeotec do #zwave-archived ones - they may or may not be available for your country since Z-Wave is regional

[hardy drum]

thank you they both are available, are they recommended and reliable?

[winged knoll]

Worked for me, but #zwave-archived can tell you more about them I'm sure

I've not seen any Zigbee options, but the #zigbee-archived channel has pinned lists of hardware you can search

Otherwise it's #diy-archived time with ESPs

[hardy drum]

DIY sounds fun atleast >D

[fallen nexus]

Any recommendations on a thing I could use to open and close my vents?
The lever moves out in an arc, so a simple left-right movement wouldn't work.
At least the lever has that hole in it.
(This is an an apartment. So I want a non destructive solution)

I have a 3d printer. Is my best bet to print some gear mechanism that can just match that arc movement and work with any motor?

[wild atlas]

You could use a servo with enough torque to open and close that probably

Their general motion is in an arc

[gloomy spoke]

I would be worried about the amount of torque required (mine are pretty stiff) and the mount point (those screws are usually not anchored very securely)

[glacial oracle]

if motorized vents exist i would just replace them, keep the old ones to restore the original state for when you move out

you could probably diy something here but it wont just look nice

[steel prairie]

Hello everyone, I hope someone can help

[frozen rapids]

Hi what’s your recommended zigbee motion sensors?

[winged knoll]

#zigbee-archived can better answer that

[pliant forum]

Only thing I know of is the Flair vents

gotta replace the vent cover though

[wind vale]

Maybe not news to anyone, I have the bluetooth temperature humidity meters with display (xiaomi) and have updated them to work with zigbee.

1 of them bricked, display works but doesn't show up in zigbee list.

One has been stable for a month or so, there has been a firmware update via z2m, which has worked on 10 others.

This one wouldn't update, new battery and it wouldn't work at all (no display). Swapped to an old battery that measures under 3V, it now works and is updating the firmware.

What an odd thing!

[cold moon]

people said the battery life goes to shit if you flash them over to zigbee so i stayed on bthome

[sacred cobalt]

Hi all, I am having a hard time finding an alarm siren that is on the HA compatibility list and still in production. Does anyone have a recommendation? I want to avoid wi-fi if possible

[cold moon]

the zwave aeotec one is apparently very loud

[sacred cobalt]

That was in my amazon cart, going to go for it.

[cold moon]

are you going to be using alarmo?

[sacred cobalt]

Yes I think so

[cold moon]

buy a ring keypad v2 as well. it is zwave and can be paired directly to a zwave controller just like that aeotec siren

i have one they're really neat

It doubles as a siren 🚨 as well

[sacred cobalt]

That's a good idea. Might switch to Ring for doorbell camera too. Thieves in my area have learned how to zap the Nest doorbell cam.

[cold moon]

god no

fuck ring

i'm only suggesting this because it's actually a zwave product with no ring connection at all

if you want a fully local doorbell buy unifi or diy with frigate (too much work in my opinion)

[sacred cobalt]

I pretty much need an NVR unfortunately, high crime area

[lime raven]

I wanna buy a buy a star projector with the following features:

• Integrates with HA ofcourse
• Is able to react to sound, so for example if I play music through my soundbar I want my star projector to reflect that with it's light somehow.
• Want to reiterarte this little thing, it's a star projector...of course I want stars and planets but if there're alternate but better projections, why not
• I want to eventually automate it with 2 modes, 1 with music and 1 before sleeping. Both includes my FP2 sensor, soundbar and just other factors like light level.

Anyone know how to achieve this through DIY or better yet with a star projector with this functionality already?

So to be clear, I just want the star projector for the light show. So the sound is solely for my soundbar

And there's no budget yet, but I'll see based on responses and recommendations

Mention, reply to me or PM me if possible. Really wanna know the anwser to this.

So far I've scoured the interwebs and no luck.

Aliexpress has a bunch of tuya star projectors, but from what I've seen those that work with reactive sound light, work through Bluetooth and I don't want that because the speaker in the star projectors are usually not good...and who wants the music just blasting out of a tiny star projector speaker when you have an amazing soundbar 😜

[merry trail]

Does anyone know of a project that someone has done or a link where they have HA on a server and use a Raspberry Pi with a touchscreen to use as a client that can interact with it?

[glacial oracle]

i mean isnt that literally just adding a touchscreen to a raspberry pi and opening a web browser / some minor kiosk mode trickery

[cold moon]

ya but it's a bad idea over a tablet

[glacial oracle]

yes

[cold moon]

those pi TFT screens fuckin suck lol

[glacial oracle]

not just that

but i think there are ones that are hdmi on tn/ips

either way thats a hundred + bucks assembly, can get some very decent tabs for that

[cold moon]

ye

[merry trail]

ohhh got ya. That makes sense then. I was looking at some of the 10in touch screens for the pis for around $75, but sounds to not really be work that.

[glacial oracle]

Realistically the cheapest of the cheapest android tablets will do, or even better a display one without battery

Could also pick some up used or from Amazon during some sale

[merry trail]

guess I haven't seen a tablet without a battery. That would be ideal since those can get hot from the battery.

[pliant forum]

I just got a thinksmart view tablet for $30 from eBay brand new sealed in box. Works on DC power and can run full android 11 if you flash it with a rom. Only downside is you can’t wall mount it but it’s great for tabletop applications

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166461250300

looks like it’s up to $40 now

[merry trail]

That's interesting. Deffently want something to wall mount I think for my house, but that is cool.

[pliant forum]

I’ve seen some wall mount PoE tablets but they’re all above like $200-300

[patent river]

Here's a PoE Android tablet that's meant to be a POS kiosk:
https://www.elotouch.com/touchscreen-computers-aaio4-22.html
But also $$$$$

[merry trail]

LOL deffently more then what I want to spend haha.

[cold moon]

You can use a PoE splitter and a $75 fire tablet

[pliant forum]

You could probably power cycle the PoE on and off to prevent battery expansion

(Have Home Assistant report battery and when below a certain level, turn on the PoE for power.. vice versa when high battery)

If you integrate something like UniFi switches in HA you can just use an automation for that

[cold moon]

There’s already blueprints made for it with fully kiosk

But easy to replicate yea

[scarlet scroll]

Told to ask in here from #general-archived I'm starting to look at HA but I want to make sure I get the right things. I want lighting that I can control the temperature on as well as dim up and down. I think that puts me in the realm of smart bulbs with a normal switch.. but I'm really not sure. Looks like mixing smart switches and smart bulbs isn't recommend. Any advice is welcome! Happy to read more, I just don't yet know the right words for searching

It's 8 spotlights and I'm having everything rewired so no need to worry about legacy

[wind vale]

I haven't seen much difference yet, many needed new batteries to actually pair though, originally.

I really want a better battery solution, or some other power solution for them, I wonder if something with 2xAA or AAA could be 3d printed, and replace the back cover?

Same thing with those round ikea contols tbh, as they die I will be moving to the ones that can use proper batteries

[patent river]

Does it help the battery life at all to turn their reporting interval down?
The sensors I'm using default to 10 minute updates, and I don't find it affects the usability at all. Temperature just doesn't move that quickly

[winged knoll]

It will, yes

[patent river]

Can you send it a command over the air to change the update rate?
Even if you just decreased it overnight and back up during the day

Not familiar with how Zigbee handles that stuff.

[winged knoll]

#zigbee-archived could answer that if you told them what zigbee integration you use and exactly what device you're talking about

The answer, unsurprisingly, really does depend on the device 😉

[patent river]

The battery powered LoRa stuff I use operates in what they call "Class A", where you can stage a "downlink" command on the gateway and it gets transmitted in a short window after the device sends a packet. Can configure some parameters that way, update interval is generally one of them.

Making MQTT discovery configuration for that was... fun

[tight sorrel]

what do you think an i3-3220 with 4 GB is enough for homeassistant with 120 GB ssd

[hasty ice]

Is there any general guide about thinclients? I want to upgrade my HA to free up my RP3 for other projects but I don't want to spend much money. I see that there are a bunch of thin clients but they are also a lot and hard to navigate and I wonder if someone has already done this homework? A few references are a few years old and might not be up to date anymore.

[winged knoll]

Should be ok

[winged knoll]

Check the channel history

[hasty ice]

I have, is quite a big history :D. Any special keywords to help with the search?

[winged knoll]

SFF, Dell, HP

[tight sorrel]

I got 2 Fujitsu ESPRIMO C910 L as a present without SSD / HDD but I think they will be better than the Rasberry 3 with 1 GB

[glacial oracle]

Anything that isn't a pi will be better than it

You are trying to beat mid range core2duo performance

[winged knoll]

Quite a lot better

Your baseline is a CPUMark of 900 - anything from there up is faster than a Pi4 (I'm going to guess that the Pi5 scores about 1,800)

[tight sorrel]

now the question is do i order another ssd or do i take an old hdd and if so how big the ssd should be for HA only. Can I actually copy everything 1:1 from the Rasberry to the settings?

[winged knoll]

SSDs are good, more than 64 GB would be sensible, and you may as well go at least 256 GB

And yes, take the backup, download it, restore on the new install

[tight sorrel]

METHOD 2: INSTALLING HAOS DIRECTLY FROM A BOOT MEDIUM i

best way for new?

[winged knoll]

Yes

[golden thorn]

I think you've got a zero too many. 9000 is 6700K range. I think I left the ping on 😟

[tight sorrel]

power consumption is also an important aspect

and it was easy to install on rasberry

but i think its laggy

its only a Pi3

[winged knoll]

900... 9000... who's counting?

[wild atlas]

¡it's OVER 9000!

[sacred dagger]

Am I the only one who thinks that light bulbs would work really well as Zigbee repeaters?

[gloomy spoke]

Maybe? If they're regularly turned off by switches that cut power, they're the worst repeaters ever

If not, they're fine, but no better than any others

[terse pebble]

Except the Sengled bulbs

[wild atlas]

They're a common one people use as repeaters, light switches or smart plugs are also good

[sacred dagger]

Almost all bulbs require to be plugged in and powered on to still connect. So it would make sense use them as repeaters.

[gloomy spoke]

and almost all are

[sacred dagger]

What about Tradfri bulbs?

[jagged crypt]

All my hue bulbs are zigbee repeaters

[cold moon]

all mains zigbee devices are unless explicitly stated otherwise (sengled bulbs, aqara fp1) are the most notable exceptions

[sacred dagger]

That's neat!

[glacial oracle]

Stuff that has no neutral connection required also tends not to be a router

[dapper mauve]

Hi all. Some of my wall switches (in the US) have no Neutral as it's an old house. Anyone got any recommends on a brand that integrates well with HA without hubs or cloud that does 2-wire models?
from what i can tell 2-wire seem to be much more expensive

I do have a z-wave USB dongle but is Z-wave even a thing any more? Seems very convoluted

[glacial oracle]

Yes zwave still is a thing

[dapper mauve]

the whole include/exclude thing drives me nuts. I was trying to disconnect 3 Z-Wave switches from Smartthings this weekend, managed to get 2 off and over to the HA z-Wave Hub but the third one wouldn't exclude no matter what I did with it, pain in the butt

I'm trying to reverse 5 years of multiple platforms so I can get back to 100% offline/local HA only

[tulip barn]

Any idea why the Bluetooth is not showing up on my new HASS-OS build? I am building a new HA instance (as a VM under Proxmox). The new VM box has the very same WiFi/BT card that the existing ThinClient is using. A PCIe card and I am getting WiFi in BOTH systems - but the new VM does not see the Bluetooth. Again, they are both on the same card. Proxmox is setup and is passing the PCIe into the HA (x86_64) installation. WiFi is working and I am able to connect to my AP and get an IP From both systems.

Is there a way to see what Hardware the VM is seeing (like the 'dmidecode' or 'lspci' type commands - which do not work from the HomeAssistant terminal)? Meaning from the TERMINAL in HomeAssistant, at the CLI command prompt.

[dapper mauve]

are there any non-brainer reasons to pick Zigbee or Z-Wave over each other, or is that an age old argument that spans in to eternity?? 😂

[cold moon]

depending on hardware required there are certainly better options for one vs the other

[dapper mauve]

Currently I just have Z-wave and Caseta/Lutron switches, getting ready to buy about 10 more but I'd like to get rid of the Lutron hub (unless I can have it work full local on an isolated IOT network)

main focus is just lights, ceiling fans and their wall switches

[wild atlas]

I roll more zwave than zigbee, and have no matter

I like it not being 2.4ghz and having things more standardized and less cowboy

Home assistant also just joined the zwave alliance

[tulip barn]

I started with SmartThings and everything I had back then (the Samsung smart-plugs are ZigBee). I moved to HomeSeer, and got a ZWave Dongle, and slowly migrated to ZWave as I was migrating. Now in HA, I have ZWave for almost everything, but I have some ZigBee temp/hum/pressure sensors, as I have found IMHO ZWave battery powered items are a little more $ and battery does not seem to last as long.

[dapper mauve]

I'm leaning toward Z-Wave as I have the ZooZ S2 already set up and working for some sensors and a few switches

[tulip barn]

I have the ZooZ 700 Series dongle

[wild atlas]

I've started adding some zigbee smart plugs as repeaters just in case I add more devices, otherwise I went 99% zwave

Inovelli and zooz are nice for zwave gear

[dapper mauve]

with my house being older, some switches dont have a neutral so they make things more limited, I think that's why I went Lutron on a few light switches as back then (5 years) they were one of the affordable and easily attainable options

can you run a lutron hub local without any web/cloud?

[tulip barn]

I personally cannot answer that - as I have never run anything Lutron - I tried to get away from anything which needed 'cloud' when I moved to HA. That included my Thermostat (which was Honeywell WiFi 9000 model) and is now ZWave (Honeywell TH6320ZW)

Have to read through this: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/lutron/

and some 'custom components' here: https://github.com/upsert/lutron-caseta-pro

and I see quite a few YOUTUBES out there - Google search "HomeAssistant & Lutron"

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/lutron_caseta/

Brief serach on the technology used by Lutron - found this:
Lutron, including their Caséta products, use the Clear Connect RF protocol, which runs on the 434 MHz radio frequency band. They chose this band after investigating many different bands, and choosing one that is less-used and so should conflict less with other wireless technologies (like Wi-Fi).

[dapper mauve]

INteresting, thanks. Yes I need to dig deeper on those remaining pieces after getting most of the other work out of the way

[tawny viper]

caseta is flawless

[trail stone]

hey, i found a strange behaviour with one my zigbee plugs.
the energy spikes every hour. normally it should raise slowly. with this, it messes up the whole energy dashboard data.
any idea what could be the reason? i cant find anything in the logs.
its a plug from ali express

[golden thorn]

What plug?

[glacial oracle]

Sounds like it's defective

[trail stone]

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004857105081.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.43.262e5c5fcOxugB&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

after re-plugging it, it works like it should

[golden thorn]

Try updating its firmware. These are very well known to need it.

[trail stone]

kk, thanks. will give it a try 😄
(or destroy it) 😄

well well. all these are from one ali express order and the same type of plug.
thank you for the hint

installed: 78
newest version: 192

[trail stone]

is it normal that a ota update takes ~30min?

[golden thorn]

Yeah zigbee is very low bandwidth.

[trail stone]

ok so no reason to worry. thank you

[outer knot]

@sudden galleon Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

[golden thorn]

According to my brief research a Zigbee network has a total bandwidth of up to 250 kbit/s. A 1MB firmware would take 32s~ with that speed.
I'm not quite sure slows it down that much but from what I heard and read and experienced myself everything from 20-50 minutes is "normal".

[trail stone]

yea the one plug needed like 25min

whats sad: you can't update multiple devices at the same time

if i try updating more than one, its cancels with "aborted by device"

[golden thorn]

It's recommended to only update one or two at a time. I think the max I did was 3.

[winged knoll]

You don't want to busy out the mesh with updates, that would make people sad

[rugged meadow]

Has anyone here been able to integrate an ESP8266 D1 mini with the IR Transmit+Receive board into HA?
I'd like to use it to capture IR signals of physical remotes and later replay them using automations/ui buttons/etc.

[winged knoll]

#diy-archived can probably better help there

[modern ocean]

Hello! I posted my question here #energy-archived message and was also suggested to ask in this channel.
I read a little about OpenDTU, the Hoymiles inverters and how much I believe I need for a balcony solar panel.
This for me is only for a small help to keep the servers (~100W) on.
Due to the size of the balcony I can only put solar panels of roughly 400W.
My question is if there's simpler projects than OpenDTU. An inverter that "just" plugs in and HA can extract metrics from. Do these exist or is OpenDTU the only solution?

[lilac nova]

If you just need the actual produced power an tasmota plug would fit your problem.

[modern ocean]

true, but not for outdoor use

[lilac nova]

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0CRZQHC1J

[modern ocean]

oh damn! and I even have got plenty of Nous plugs with PM. Totally missed it, so thanks for showing it!

And I just noticed that the enrgy dashboard now accepts these plugs! I recall time ago it wasn't. I just added a plug into the "solar production". There's zero data of course but looks promising!

[warm flume]

Does anyone have a recommendation for Outdoor flood lights? Currently using Philips Hue Par38s with a Philips Hue Outdoor Motion Sensor but wondering I think the bulbs just went out and it is $53 on Amazon for a replacement 2-pack and i'm just wondering if there is a better solution out there

[patent river]

Hue have an unpleasantly expensive floodlight to sell you 😉 https://www.philips-hue.com/en-us/p/hue-white-and-color-ambiance-discover-outdoor-floodlight/1743530V7

The warm white only one is on sale for $78 though https://www.philips-hue.com/en-us/p/hue-white-welcome-outdoor-floodlight/1743630V7

If you don't care about RGB

[jagged crypt]

I managed to get 8 of those at homedepot on discount for ~$35/each

[patent river]

damn

[true raptor]

An idea on what i could do with a shelly pro 4pm? Aka 4 relays on the same Phase, lights are out cause i want and have dimmers there.

Background, i can get the 4pm relatively cheap, and would like to have lan to my shellys and work from there with the internal ap or bt (will see then) to dont croud up my Main wifi ap.

But i think a pro 3em would be the smarter Option cause i want energy measuring of my whole sub distribution Box anyways...

[glacial oracle]

Personally I don't think the relay ones are that useful to control stuff. It depends a lot on your needs and wiring but just pulling power on devices seems a bit brutal to me for most cases I could think off ^^
The 3em is nice but generally intended for multi phase measures, you may or may not prefer buying multiple single ones

[true raptor]

Ill def use one 3em for my full distro Box, (german, so 3ph Power), but im thinking on what i could do with the relays, but yea makes sense you dont know my wiring .-.

The thing is just, it can do quite a lot of power but only across one Phase... And like you say - you cant really kill full circuits on demand.

Hence why i dont really know what to do.

Id use some pm mini gen3 (Power Monitoring only) for Monitoring ussage of full circuits, but yea. The 4pm is cool, but i dont know what to do with it...

[glacial oracle]

I could see this being useful for non smart outdoor lightings, some relay multi way switch, or something similar which is rather low load

But for that it's kinda expensive ^^

While they are rated for 10-16A, I wouldn't actually try switching that much

[pastel swallow]

Trying to figure out how to connect a phillips heater to HA.
I've found (and installed) the HACS module. But something that's not clear to me is how to go from there. Should you first connect it to your phone (to get it on your network) or do you directly somehow connect to it?

[winged knoll]

What do the docs for that integration say?

[ebon cipher]

I'm running haos the latest install under proxmox. I noticed something strange I wanted to ask about. when I look at the virtual machine overview in proxmox it says that 14G of 16G of memory are in use by the server. But when I look at the machine hardware stats through home assistant or glances, it says only 2G is in use. Is the OS grabbing all the memory and then managing parsing it out to homeassistant?

[worthy nimbus]

I've seen it do things like that before -- I often check top on the server itself to compare

But It usually reports near full memory usage on the VM

So okay, I have to ask -- I'm using my Eero system as a border router, and I can add my Eve Energy switches no problem. But I can't add a TUO button at all using the companion app. Has anyone had any issues adding the TUOs?

[pastel swallow]

They don't really mention it I think. Unless I somehow missed it.

They just mention it in a very off-hand way

[winged knoll]

[pastel swallow]

Like "connect to the device by IP"

https://github.com/kongo09/philips-airpurifier-coap

[winged knoll]

Sounds like you have to have the device connected to your network first

Enter the hostname / IP address of your device
TL/DR: Yes, you do

[shell leaf]

I don't want to intrude, but would this be the right channel to get to the bottom of why my lamp is behaving like this, or should I move this to #zigbee-archived? I don't know what to do and haven't really been able to find anything here in the Discord or on the web.

[winged knoll]

#zigbee-archived would be the place for #zigbee-archived devices

Do tell them more about it

[pastel swallow]

It is connected I think. I can see the MAC address in the Philips air app, and I can see that it's connected to my network

as well as its local IP

[winged knoll]

Great, so follow the steps in the docs you linked - and if you get stuck then #integrations-archived can help you

[pastel swallow]

Well, that's immediately where I get stuck, haha

But I'll send a message to #integrations-archived

[regal gulch]

Hi. I've installed home assistant os on an old laptop (bare metal). Is there a way to have the server keep running when the lid is closed? Also if the screen can be turned off?

[fringe crater]

Maybe better question for #installation-archived ? I did this with HAOS on Proxmox and I know that could turn off the screen and keep the lid closed, but I'm not sure about baremetal HAOS.

[regal gulch]

Okay, thanks! I'll ask there.

[loud oyster]

Evening All, Looking into HA more and more i have set up my first automations and got things going but looking into issues with melcloud intergration it sounds better to not use the intergrated temp sensor (and it doesnt do humidty) i have a lot of seperated rooms so looking for a "cheap" device to check temp and humidty every 2-3mins in total i need 9 of them

[glacial oracle]

you could have a look at available zigbee temperature & humidity sensors, like the ones from aquara

[loud oyster]

Aquara came to mind but with the hub and the other components needed seems like it going to be costly

[glacial oracle]

you dont need their hub, you can alternatively use any* zigbee gateway with it

[loud oyster]

ahhh ok like the usb stick ones that work with HA

[winged knoll]

Yes, that's how most of us use them

See #zigbee-archived and the pinned messages

[sullen token]

Getting an error for all custom cards on google nest hub. They show up fine in iPad and android phone. Error is “custom element doesn’t exist…”

[outer knot]

@tawdry igloo I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[heady ingot]

Anyone know of a good wall mount (preferably flush) for a raspberry pie 7” monitor?
Something like this https://gazouta.com/pi-wall-mount/

[stable owl]

how can i connect with sky connect support regarding the bad nov batch and either get a refund or a solution?

[brittle pelican]

Hi there, not quite sure where to post this question. I'm fairly new to HA and I'm trying to get the Govee Air Quality Monitor to integrate into HA. I've read a post that Govee BLE stuff like the Air Quality Monitor only works with Theengs Gateway...so I'm looking to getting a bluetooth proxy for my HA Green.

From the looks of it, I'm going with getting some ATOM Lite ESP32 kits...was wondering what's the range on those ones? Like do they only cover a standard sized bedroom?

Oh oops, my bad. I didn't bother to scroll down the text chats! Apologies!

[eternal apex]

Is it just me, or zigbee buttons are really overpriced in US? You can buy a zigbee outlet with power measurement for a price of a button....

[runic tinsel]

I use the Xiaomi Mijia ones. They are Bluetooth and only a few bucks. If your HA machine has BT then you can just pick them up. If not, they are supported out of the box by ESPHome.

[young socket]

I have a super sketchy Chinese WiFi outlet that I haven't used as I'm scared to infect my phone with their APK, so I got the idea of trying to get it integrated into Home Assistant. How difficult would you say it would be to get a random WiFi device to work in HA?

I read about Tasmota but I have no clue what MCU it has inside of it and I don't have the device with me right now to check, but I'll open it up when I get back home in 3-4h

[glacial oracle]

It's somewhere between tuya and impossible

Likely not a lot of fun at all

[young socket]

tuya?

[glacial oracle]

It's hit or miss to work at all if it's from their product line

[winged knoll]

how can i connect with sky connect

[boreal scaffold]

I have a question, if I have a separate power supply for leds in the box behind switches, which sonoff smart switch should I buy? It should be one of those small ones which goes into the EU box. I don't need to see for how much amps it's rated?

[formal dagger]

Question im looking for a zigbee or Zwave device that can DIM my lights, but can also be put behind a dimmer

[formal dagger]

its still connected to your wifi so it can still do stuff

the APK is the least of your problems

[young socket]

I can block it to connect to any servers except HA

[young socket]

Ayyyy there's an ESP8266 inside

[glacial oracle]

That doesn't sound too bad of a start

[balmy crater]

for everyone how runs haos under proxmox ve, here a short instruction to get audio work without PCIe passtrough:
install alsa-utils
edit /etc/asound.conf and make your desired sound card the default
change and run

[tired bridge]

I have this old thing I built a few years back
A non-touch laptop with all its internals on the back. Any ideas on what to do with it?
I was thinking of some sort of dashboard, but having no touchscreen means I wouldn't be able to interact with anything, just an overview screen would be useless with the small amount of smart tech outside my room

[winged knoll]

Magic mirror?

[tired bridge]

It's q bit on the bulky side

6cm thick

[short trout]

If you had to choose a television for HA, which one would you choose? (I'm looking for one with the best integration, preferably local.)

[tired bridge]

Android TV has great local connectivity via ADB

[short trout]

any android tv?

I have an LG at the moment but I'm very dissapointed with the limited cappabilities :/

[tired bridge]

Can't say a yes or no
But any decent one would work. I cheaped out and bought a Starlight one. It doesn't get updates past androids 10, and I cannot remotely start it 5+h after stoping, as it goes into a sleep that I can't disable

[short trout]

I'm going mid-high end for this one as will be for my man cave

60" to be precise

[tired bridge]

I have one too
Only added as a media player in HA. Saw people have full on remotes for them

[tired bridge]

I'd honestly get a dumb tv(or use an old one) and get an nvidia sheild or chromecast
The experience is very smooth on those, and they run android(haven't tested with HA)

[short trout]

I just use as notification center and (on/off) sensor for the lights but I have seen that with android tv you can trigger actions when you pause/stop/play

[tired bridge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/s/I1mBlsgh87

This is where I saw a remote for webos iirc

[short trout]

Interesting, I want to get an apple TV just because I need a hub for my apartment

[tired bridge]

Oh yea
U get everything
I even connected it to alexa via HA
This is the remote i configured for it

[tired bridge]

Hmm
I don't think you can control that by having it connected to an Android TV. Maybe through homekit protocol?
*i don't own any apple devices so dont take my word for it

[short trout]

My goal is to be able to dim the lights when playing and that kind of stuff that I can't do with the LG

[tired bridge]

I can do that with my LG. What year is yours from?

[short trout]

2022 i think, I can dim the lights when the TV it's on or off but not when it's playing or paused

[tired bridge]

One sec

[short trout]

using the LG WebOS integration

[tired bridge]

Yea i thought i can see the 'currently playing' state, but i'm mistaken

That's on my android tv

Can only see the app it's in

Look up the Apple TV/homekit integration on yt and see if it's any good for your use case

[short trout]

I have tried with these but for some reason It didn’t detect when the video is playing or paused (the changes I mean) but I’ll revisit this again some other day

[short trout]

Sadly just on/off only and source switch if I’m not mistaken

[cold moon]

You can probably use the Plex integration with the Plex client on that lg smart tv and react to play state that way

But an nvidia shield tv is the way to go

Get a HomePod mini if you want an Apple hub for HomeKit

[short trout]

Serms like an nvidia shield is the way to go

With any tv

[cold moon]

Always has been 🔫

[covert steppe]

Looking for a suggestion on a good, smart light switch to use with Hue bulbs.
Ideally they would have passthrough like the Inovelli Blue 2-1, but I'm ok with hardwiring the power to the fixtures, and direct pair the bulbs with a smart switch.

[outer knot]

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

• Which country you're in
• What your budget is
• What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
• Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)

[eternal apex]

what's wrong with Inovelli Blue? 😉 In other words what boxes it doesn't check for you. For me it's the number #1 switch you can buy now for zigbee.

[fluid sigil]

I guess you can use pretty much anything to host HA, but I have this old laptop without SSD, still works good in windows, but sometimes slow down with 100% disk usage. Would it be a bad idea with HA on it?

[covert steppe]

It's good. I own a couple already. I've found the compatibility with dimmable lights a bit lower than other dimmers (Caseta) and personal preference, I wish they made a version without the led indicator bar.

[covert steppe]

Worth a try. HA isn't resource demanding in my experience. Worst case, you get it all set up, and your laptop becomes an issue, you can backup your config and move it to a new device.

[cold moon]

i wouldnt run a toaster OS on an HDD much less HaOS

[glacial oracle]

20 bucks and it has an ssd

It's well worth the investment

[fluid sigil]

Yea it's more the hassle then the money, would want to start setting it up this weekend 🙂

[covert steppe]

Go for it! iops for HaOS is low.

[eternal apex]

As for dimmability you can often ask them if anything can be done. The compatbility is pretty universal if the bulb supports proper binding. Most do.... most... but this is sadly the ugly side of zigbee.

I personally used to use a lot of IKEA Tradfri bulbs, as they're pretty robust. However, recently I started switching to dumb philip ultra definition bulbs - they're cheap (like $3/pc?) and these have CRI of 95 iirc

[steel lion]

can anyone recommend a piece of equipment HA friendly that can monitor multiple reed switches (lets say 32 just for a good number) all coming into a central location? prefer wifi or zigbee

[eternal apex]

you probably be best served with a DIY approach on ESP32 or multiple of them

you can add like CD74HC4067 to get 16 inputs per pin 😉

[steel lion]

whoa... 16 inoputs per pin? do i read that right as: 16 different reed sensors on a single GPIO?

do you happen to know... those 16 channels are individualized, correct? as in, the ESP (or whatever its hooked up to) will see it as 16 different sensors coming in, not just a single entity, right?

[glacial oracle]

That sounds a lot like a multiplexer

[fringe crater]

The ESP itself won't see 16 sensors input, but you can program the ESP to continually roll through each channel (maybe every ~10ms), and present it to HA as 16 unique binary sensors.

you'd probably want to be pretty comfortable with soldering/electrical DIY before attempting something like that though...

[eternal apex]

Yes, they're individualized. It's a port multiplexer. Technically these don't work 100% of the time as there's no buffering but if they're scanned quickly enough you get a nice multiplication. As @glacial oracle said it's a multiplexer: https://esphome.io/components/sensor/cd74hc4067.html

Alternatively if this isn't acceptable in your case, you can use individual pins on ESP32. IIRC the max sane limit for inputs will be 22 individual pins. Seeing as you can buy premade ESP32 breakout boards for like $3-4.... grabbing even 3 of them and having 20 channels on each will probably be the most cost effective solution 😄

[eternal apex]

for such a usecase I would say the barrier of entry is pretty low - you're essentially connecting I/O pins and copy-pasting a simple binary sensor config 20x.That isn't much different from grabbing a premade GPIO "sensor" and screwing wires into terminals ;p

They also have these boards for cheap: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805826515551.html

[steel lion]

soldering i got to make most jealous. i cant remeber the guys name, but, whjen i used to mod x boxes, i used to go to team xecuter for advice... and their main dev was a solder nazi. the mother of a puddlejumper used to just destroy me publicly for my solder work before hed get to the helping part...

[steel lion]

i already bought a bunch of stuff on slavazon.

got your multiplexer, a couple esp32s (though, im 99% sure ive got a bunch of vacpacks of them somewhere in my office... but even more importantly and ESP32 with POE (havent messed with one of those yet)...

oh, and a whole bunch of other things to tinker with! my wife is gone for the week, this is my vacation 🙂

[steel lion]

meh, ive seen people rip off quarter inch solder pads... people are dumb when it comes to soldering and more often than not cause themselves infinite missery from their improper approach, poor technical skills and a lack of attention to detail (go ahead... ask me how i know 🙂 )

[frosty spruce]

I have a Google Coral TPU usb-stick, connected to my Intel Nuc via a powered Usb3-hub. The nuc runs proxmox, in a VM Homeassitant.
Proxmox recognizes the Google Coral TPU usb stick. The device is added as usb-device to the HA-VM. When i check lsusb inside Homeassitant advanced ssh, i see the Coral Usb device as:

In proxmox:

But when i check inside Homeassistant->system->hardware->all hardware I don’t see the Coral TPU usb-device.

Also tried several other usb-ports, powered usb-hub’s. Rebooted the Nuc, proxmox, Homeassitant many times. No good results..

[glacial oracle]

Is this an issue?

[frosty spruce]

Yes 😀