hardware-archived

[tacit totem]

thank i'll check it out - though i also plan to use the device for audio output such as music, not sure how well a tablet will handle this since most are mediocore at best

[uncut badger]

willow, apparently, can make the esp32-s3-box do wakeword.

https://github.com/toverainc/willow

[lament marten]

Getting a HP Pro desk 600 G3 Mini. Comes with 16gb RAM. I plan on installing via Proxmox so I can run InfluxDB on its own VM/container and the same with Adguard, and possibly other things down the road. Should I upgrade the RAM to 32gb or is 16gb plenty?

[uncut badger]

16GB is plenty

you can always add more later if you need to

of course, if it's a trivial uplift in cost, then go for it. But I suspect it's going to be like 15-20%

[devout parrot]

16 is definitely plenty. I have 16 in my Thinkcentre and I don't think I've seen it use more than ~8-9 and that's with HA running and owncloud and smb both doing large transfers.

[golden thorn]

You must have a lot of hungry addons

[lament marten]

I don't. I'm migrating away from a failing RPi4B. It will only stay up for about 3 hours then stops working. It also will not boot unless I unplug the two USB dongles

[uncut badger]

what's your powersupply?

[golden thorn]

What uses the 9GB then? That's quite a lot

[lament marten]

@uncut badger meanwell LRS-50-5. I had an original RPi PSU and thought that was the issue so I made a case for the meanwell and still the same issue

@golden thorn I don't know that's why I'm asking... I would imagine after a while setting 1gb here 4gb there etc it adds up quick and that 16gb would be gone

[uncut badger]

huh. just checking to make sure it's not a power draw thing. But if that's a 10 amp supply, then it won't be that.

[golden thorn]

I'm sorry your ping/reply confused me. I was referring to FinnMacCool as they said they use 9GB

[lament marten]

My guess is to give HA at least 8gb since that's what's it's had from the RPi

[devout parrot]

That's my machine not emmyshain's, and HA isn't sucking all that ram, I was making the system do as many things as I could at once for testing reasons.

[lament marten]

@uncut badger yeah it's flustered me for sure, and over the last new days it's gotten worse. It runs off a USB sata drive because I was worried about SD card failure

[winged knoll]

The problem is that there's a limit of what it can pull, and supply to the USB ports, even if you give a Pi a 100A supply it can't use it

[lament marten]

It's in an Argon One V2 case with the fan so it has active and passive cooling

@winged knoll one USB is the HDD, then it's got a cat5e for network, a USB zooz 800LR ZWave dongle, and the sky connect USB dongle

[devout parrot]

That's a lot.

[lament marten]

I'm wondering if the Argon case is the culprit. I'm not much worried at this point. The mini PC is already on its way. The RPi has worked great but now that my smart home and everything else is getting bigger and more complex I think it's outgrown the RPi

[devout parrot]

You should be using a powered USB hub for all that.

[lament marten]

@devout parrot you're probably right. But like I said, I'm switching to that mini PC which should relieve that problem

Unless you think I should have one even with the mini pc

Although the USB SSD will no longer be part of the equation. It'll have a 500gb m.2 drive

[devout parrot]

Should be fine.

[cold moon]

Both these dongles should be on usb extenders btw

[lament marten]

@cold moon they are!

[cold moon]

Great

[lament marten]

Did a lot of reading on them before the sky connect dropped. I ended up going with Z-wave though but I do have a couple ZigBee devices I'm playing with so it stays for now

[cold moon]

Also 800 series zwave controllers are practically beta so something to watch out for

[lament marten]

I've honestly had zero issues so far. Works great with my Zooz 800 light switches, 700 window sensors, and my two Kwikset door locks

[quiet stratus]

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong channel. Looking for recommendation on Synology server/hardware to host both HA and NVR for 4 cams in retirement home 1000 miles from where I live now. Keeping my HA on odroid intact at current home. I have a spare odroid. Would I be better off hosting new HA on that and keep NVR separate? I have a Synology NAS now which I use for a number of things, but not NVR. Thanks for the thoughts.

[simple badge]

Anyone have a reco for RF replicating? I'm looking for something to smartify some dumb ceiling fans that can't have a dedicated switch, or older RGB lighting without replacing the controller.

Seems like https://www.amazon.com/Broadlink-RM-Mini3-Universal-Controller-Compatible/dp/B01FK2SDOC might be a good go to?

Wonder how it handles diff types of controls. Fan vs TV vs lights...

[cold moon]

Bond bridge is suggested over the broadlink ones

[simple badge]

Lemme take a gander.

[cold moon]

You can search here for reasoning

I don’t personally have one just see that’s the common suggestion as better

[simple badge]

Add Wifi to Ceiling Fan
RIght in the title, they coming at me. Significantly more expensive, I'll find some history to see why. Thanks dude.

[cold moon]

There’s also diy options with esphome if you like to tinker

433mhz, ir transceiver, whatever

I made one 433 for like $10

433 mhz esphome yaml example: https://dpaste.org/Z0qus images of esp32 wiring using nodemcu wroom32: https://imgur.com/a/PdPiTcy https://github.com/dbuezas/esphome-cc1101/tree/main but that's more #diy-archived territory

[hoary junco]

I'm looking for suggestions on a HA compatible device to control a 12v light source (3D printer LED light bar). From what I've found the Shelly 1 appears that it can do it, but wondering if anyone knows of a better (or smaller) device that can do it?

[zealous dune]

can't get much smaller than Shelly 1

potentially this https://templates.blakadder.com/sinilink_XY-WFMS.html

[cold moon]

I use wled with d1 minis and 5v strips for my printers

[rich venture]

what printer do you have?
if you dont need ha integration you can potentially just use gpio on the controll board

[cold moon]

Same end result

[hoary junco]

it's an ender3s1, mainly looking for a way to turn it (led light bar) on at night when it's needed (for Obico monitoring) and off during the day when not needed, without me needing to flip a switch

[rich venture]

consider getting octoprint as octoprint has ha support

[hoary junco]

I've got Klipper and Mainsail already setup and integrated with HA

[rich venture]

what hardware is klipper running on?

[hoary junco]

RPi4 2GB

[rich venture]

you could probably run it via mosfet from ras pi gpio

[cold moon]

Probably but what’s the fun in that

https://github.com/cp2004/OctoPrint-WLED I use this with op but I think klipper has some stuff built in

I also think his s1 changed from 2040 extrusions on the bar across the top of the printer which I used to slide 3d printed channels in for the led strips and diffusers

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2981368 this specifically

[hoary junco]

top bar appears to be a 3 channel 2020

[cold moon]

in pictures online the s1 does not have v slots in the extrusions which "3 channel 2020" pictures seem to have but maybe my quick google was wrong

[hoary junco]

the front of the bar doesn't have a slot, but the other 3 sides (top, bottom, and rear) all have slots

[cold moon]

i see

I put mine on both sides

need to go back and do better wiring just been lazy

[hoary junco]

I plan to do something similar with the Rat Rig when I get it assembled

[cold moon]

cool

i still think voron is the way to go unless you are willing to go full retard with the bambu labs chinese walled garden

but ratrig vcore hypercube blah blah are all more or less a voron these days

i'm way too lazy but i've been tempted to change my ender 5 plus into a core xy

i have a little farm setup just for fun

i admittedly havent even setup any automations in hass for my printers just a dash lol

[hoary junco]

the triple z axis sold me, full auto leveling

[cold moon]

I’m not that kind of 3d printer hobbyist chasing those goals

[hoary junco]

Once I got my bearings (about a month in) the Ender 3 has been printing nearly non-stop and I've got a long list of things to print and make

[steady nexus]

Hi all , I give up with the Swann NVR and its cameras. Just cant seem to get them onto HA. Gonna change to Hikvision, anyone recommend a good Hikvision NVR that works with HA?

[hexed galleon]

Searching to track energy usage

400amp breaker is the main

Emporia is too low

250 only

Maybe sense ?

[cold moon]

Oh you rich rich

[hexed galleon]

Well I pay energy as a rich guy

[maiden torrent]

Hi all! Wild question, because I can't seem to find anything that suits what I'm looking for:

I am looking to make the heating system in my home a bit smarter, and I would like to go to a system where every room has it’s own thermostat, which just communicates with HA and/or node-red, which in turns has the automations to control the different parts of the heatings system (which is actually really complex with 2 different heating systems, 4 water pumps, 2 mixing valves and a storage vessel. So I can’t hook it straight to a thermostat).
Does anyone has any idea if there is something on the market that has the most possible of the following characteristics:

• Wall mounted
• 230V (EU)
• Display (preferably e-ink)
• Temperature sensor (for the room)
• Humidity sensor (very optional)
• CO2 sensor (very optional)
• Actual buttons (for temperature + and -, and preferably also for on/off)
• 2-way communication with HA/node-red (I want to be able to change the setpoint from both the wall mount thermostat and from HA, and this should be reflected on the display)

In my head I see something in the style of the Sonoff wall mounted panels or something, but I don’t think they have room temperature sensors. Having something open-source and flashable would be nice, but if it works good enough as-is, that is perfectly fine.

This is a long shot, and I can find a few that might work, but I am wondering if other people have done something similar, and if there are options I haven’t found yet.
Thanks in advance!

[rich venture]

how are 2 heating systems configured, is one a backup to other?

[maiden torrent]

That is actually what the storage vessel is for. One is a wood stove, which creates (besides a nice looking fire in the house) very hot water, around 80ºC, which is stored in a 500L vessel. The other one is a heat pump, which creates only 40-55ºC water, preferably when it's not too cold outside. The "radiators" are actually convectors with fans attached to them, so they don't need more then 40ºC to heat the home. As long as there is heat in the vessel, mixing valves are regulating the temperature that flows to the convectors, if the vessel is too cold, the heat pump starts and keeps the water flowing to the convectors at 40ºC.

[fervent ocean]

I'm looking for some solution on smart locks. I live in Ireland and my door lock is a multi point where I need to lift up the handle to lock the door, is this even possible with a smart lock?

[cold moon]

Can you share a poorly drawn mspaint recreation of the lock mechanism?

[rich venture]

what thermostat do you currently have and what would be a goal to achieve with home assistant

do you just want to turn it on/off remotely or do you want compleate automation with detailed view into the system

[fervent ocean]

I'm not sure exactly of the inner mechanism, but it works like this: https://www.anglian-building.co.uk/operating-cleaning-and-maintenance-guide-2/opening-and-closing-doors/

[cold moon]

That’s not ms paint at all

[winged knoll]

You want https://www.ultion-lock.co.uk/ultion-nuki/

[fervent ocean]

basically if you want to lock it, you need first to pull up the handle so the multi point lock engages and only then you can lock it with the key, if you try to use the key without lifting up it won't lock it

[winged knoll]

The Nuki is made for our kind of doors

[gloomy spoke]

I have one like that

[fervent ocean]

I saw that one, but it says that to lock it I need to pull up myself 😆

[winged knoll]

You do, that's not easy to work around

(by which I mean cheap)

[fervent ocean]

yeah, I can imagine, I just wanted to confirm

oh, what are the non-cheap solutions? I'm curious now

[winged knoll]

https://www.ultion-lock.co.uk/ultion-bolt/ is an addition that may help

Very new though, I've not seen any reviews

[fervent ocean]

let me see

[winged knoll]

I've not seen any other way around the way our modern doors/locks work

[fervent ocean]

you're from Scotland, right? are these type of locks really more secure?? I come from Spain that there's a fever of people occupying houses (or so the want to sell in the news) and I've never seen these type of locks there or anyone trying to sell them

[winged knoll]

Yup, and ... mostly yes

Simply having multiple points is the win, whether that's a multi-point lock, or multiple locks/bolts

It's about spreading out force over a wider area, to make it harder to force open

[fervent ocean]

let me see if I can find a picture of what I've seen my whole life in Spain

[winged knoll]

Traditional UK doors are just a single "Yale" lock, maybe with an additional bolt or secondary lock

[fervent ocean]

https://youtu.be/v7t2FCFJt6o?t=31

lol... that show brought me to my childhood... I used to watch this with my dad 😆

[winged knoll]

That's a neat design

[fervent ocean]

basically it has 3, let's say, blocks, at the middle, top and bottom, but they open just with the key, no need of handle at all

(and close too)

[winged knoll]

I mean... in theory the Nuki style would work, though whether it would fit the door or not...

Expensive experiment

[fervent ocean]

I don't see the price of the bolt actually

[fervent ocean]

do you have it with bolt too or just lift up the handle to lock it?

[gloomy spoke]

that looks like a bank vault compared to my doors 🙂

there's a thumbscrew

[fervent ocean]

yeah, I thought the opposite when I saw the door of my house 🙈

[gloomy spoke]

you have to turn it counterclockwise to be able to unlock

[fervent ocean]

so basically you need to do it manually, right?

my main purpose of installing one is to lock automatically more than to unlock (which obviously it's a very good addition)

[rich venture]

except the part that most euro cylinders can be broken into in bout 10 seconds

https://youtu.be/EKCgsuFpciw

[gloomy spoke]

I just looked at one of my newer doors and it does have hooks near the top and bottom in addition to the middle bit

[fervent ocean]

yes, that's the only difference I see with the ones I have compared to the Spanish version, spanish version only goes to the side frame and the ones I have go also to the top

[gloomy spoke]

I have to turn the thumbscrew counterclockwise to be able to push the handle down to open the door.

[fervent ocean]

aah I thought you meant that you have a smart one installed on one of this! XD

[gloomy spoke]

No, this one is manual. I have several other doors with smartlocks

[fervent ocean]

yeah, that's the way I have them too, I'll keep an eye on the Ultion bolt Tinkerer mentioned as that could do the job... but I'd like to install this in 4 doors.... so might not be an option at all

[gloomy spoke]

but all are just deadbolts

[fervent ocean]

oh so wait a minute... you have the multi point lock but don't need to lift up the handle to lock it?

[gloomy spoke]

no, I need to lift that one to lock it

[fervent ocean]

oh alright... I got exiceted for a minute

😆

[gloomy spoke]

the thumbscrew just prevents me from rotating it down to unlock it

[fervent ocean]

yep, that one is the same thing as the key but with a fancier looking

I got a few of those too when I changed my cilynders

so then how do you get a good use of smart locks with these type of locks? I thought one of the main points was to auto-lock

[gloomy spoke]

I ignore that door. It even uses a different key from the rest

not even sure where the key is 🙂

in other words, I'm of no help whatsoever

[fervent ocean]

hahaha

well thanks anyway! 🙂

@winged knoll , in case you're interested, I've spoken with Ultion and the say they'll release Bolt in August and will be available at local sellers, I'll keep an eye on it

but yeah... I see in the local seller they provided, the smart lock itself is already 300€ so it'll be a fortune 🙈

[fervent ocean]

the cylinders I got are meant to be anti drill and anti snap... is that just a gimmick then?

[rich venture]

it does help

[maiden torrent]

I would love full control. Right now the heatpump controller controls everything. This has just 1 wireless portable thermostat you take with you, and then we have to manually open the valves on each convector.

[rich venture]

for valves you can get smart trv, the thing to look out is that the coupling matches your existing ones
prices for those range from 25$ tuya ones to 55$ Aqara Thermostat E1

[fresh moat]

Can anyone recommend hardware for controlling a ceiling fan or a ceiling fan itself that would be smart-er than controlling my 315MHz fan via an RM4 now?

Currently the light is a toggle but I would prefer to call a service explicitly asking for light to be on or off, same for the fan itself, there's no way to know state the fan or light is currently in.

I actually wonder if there's commands supported by the reciever that just aren't present on my remote, but I would have no idea how to find them.

[cold moon]

sonoff ifan04 has been suggested lately

otherwise there are zwave or zigbee fan controllers with fan speeds or just smart switches that do on/off and can handle fan inrush current (around 3amps usually)

[maiden torrent]

The valves are not the problem, I have relay operated valves that can get controlled by a shelly. It's the room thermostats where I'm searching.

[devout parrot]

You just need something that can read the temperature of the room and then HA can tell the Shelly relay(s) to open/close the valves as needed?

[maiden torrent]

Exactly! (I know I could use a Sonoff panel, and probably some other classic thermostats, but I'm mostly trying to check on what everybody else would be using for this)

[zealous dune]

basically everything that has relays 😄

[devout parrot]

that might be a job for a handful of Zigbee temperature sensors and the Generic Thermostat integration.

[zealous dune]

you don't need wall thermostats if you have HA

set it and forget

[bitter shale]

Anyone have a cheap solution to control a 2 port USB switcher via HA that's not using an IR blaster? I have a webcam I want to switch between two Macs via HA.

[grand vigil]

Has anyone ever used a POE splitter and use a POE switch to power the every presence one

[indigo comet]

not sure if it's the right channel, sorry if OT

What's your experience with Blink outdoor cameras? now that Prime day is on, I was thinking to get some of them

[gentle fossil]

They are no good

[uncut badger]

They're not generally real time. you can do short real time through their app. through ha, you can trigger them to take a snapshot, then a while later update the image HA has from it.

(Which is why they can get the battery life they can)

[devout parrot]

Looks like there are deals or upcoming deals on a lot of more decent surveillance cams and accessories though, like Amcrest and Reolink.

[stiff yarrow]

I'm looking for a sensor to measure water temperature from a raft which is roughly 50m away from the server in my cabin. I got the router there but wifi might be shaky at that range. I use a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 stick as well. I there any good wired or wireless solutions?

[winged knoll]

LoRa would be my suggestion - or the new long range Z-Wave

[stiff yarrow]

Thanks, got any devices you can recommend?

[winged knoll]

I don't, no

[stiff yarrow]

If I go the wifi route, I got ESP8266 and DS18B20, did anyone try running these from battery? Maybe a powerbank could work and then a waterproof case

[frigid kayak]

question.. as an example.. an Aqare mini switch.. On the product page it says "Requires AQARA hub", is that true even if i'm using HA with a zigbee stick?

[winged knoll]

No

That's just standard marketing crap

[terse pebble]

No. All of Aqaras packagings are stating that

[frigid kayak]

i thought so.. thanks guys

[obsidian lintel]

any recomendations for a decive that can both play tts and recive requests. baiscly tring to use it like an alexa or google home but custom through HA

[uncut badger]

https://zigbee.blakadder.com/ if you want to see what people have tested.

Receive is difficult. right now you're basically talking about 'hit a button before speaking.'

[winged knoll]

#voice-assistants-archived can help with some of that, but see all the recent chat about Wyoming etc

[obsidian lintel]

what is the difference between HA and ZHA

[winged knoll]

ZHA is an integraton in HA

[uncut badger]

ZHA is home assistant's built in zigbee integration.

[winged knoll]

(so, part of HA)

deCONZ .... just don't go there

[devout parrot]

HA: Home Assistant
ZHA: Zigbee Home Automation, HA's native Zigbee integration

[winged knoll]

Zigbee2MQTT is a Zigbee stack that's separate from HA, but integrates with it

[uncut badger]

deconz works, but it's a lot more opaque than the other two

[kindred pelican]

with SONOFF S31s, will they tell me the energy usage in HA over zigbee, or do they have to connect through wifi?

[winged knoll]

They're WiFi devices, not Zigbee

[uncut badger]

the S31's are wifi only

[kindred pelican]

oo

dang

tyvm

[devout parrot]

There are different models of S31. There's the S31 and S31 Lite, those are WiFi models, and the S31 Lite ZB, which is Zigbee.

[kindred pelican]

I don't like them being on wifi.

[devout parrot]

The Lite ZB doesn't do power monitoring.
The standard S31 WiFi model is like $7US and can be flashed with esphome or Tasmota if you want fully local+power monitoring.

[cold moon]

Yea they are the best

[fresh moat]

Thanks.

[devout parrot]

One thing I do like about the ifan is that it also supports RF remote so you have a backup control method if your WiFi is down.

[cold moon]

If my Wi-Fi is down I need an adult not a fan

[fresh moat]

Agreed, WiFi is one of the last things to go down in my house is the WiFi.

Anyway, I ordered two of the iFAN04-L's, they're a bit cheaper because it's Prime Day.

[vapid socket]

Any suggestion for a rain measure device that is not too expensive and supports HA? I don't want to buy the netatmo device for 100€ 🤔😵‍💫

I found this technoline device for 60€, but Integration in HA is a bit more advanced (Technoline MA10040 https://www.amazon.de/dp/B09H736W64)

[kindred pelican]

are ecobee's NOT zigbee? I had looked at them in the past and maybe I'm misremembering.

[cold moon]

Wi-Fi thermostats are Wi-Fi lol

[rich venture]

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/diy-zigbee-rain-gauge/255379/15
make your own

[south scroll]

i built one two days ago. basically whats in this link ^

except i used one of these. its the same thing, just a slightly different shape. its the rain gauge part of a weater station, cost me ~20 bucks. comes with some electronics for 433mhz stuff, which i tossed and replaced with a door/window contact.
the nice thing about this one is that it runs on batteries, so i was very easily able to re-use the battery compartment, wire it up to the window sensor. it now runs on 2xAA instead of 2xAAA, should last plenty

[cold moon]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3974479 you can also do something like this

[south scroll]

that ones more for detecting IF there is rain, not measuring how much, right?

[cold moon]

correct but still a neat project worth sharing

[south scroll]

the green is the original electronics. the upper two boards were stuck into and soldered to the lower green PCB, which is basically just the battery holder. easy enough to desolder. second picture is it soldered up to the window sensor, third picture is it all stuffed into the housing.
means even if i need to swap batteries, i dont need to take it all apart for that 🙂

[cold moon]

neat

[sly owl]

Has anyone looked into using Microbot/Switchbot/Fingerbot as a relay? Seems battery efficient and the latest version is even on Zigbee.

[hot saddle]

Does anyone happen to know if it's possible to use ANY Android tablet for a HA dashboard? For example, a touchscreen digital photo frame with it's own (very limited and customized) version of Android running. Is it possible to load another OS on any tablet using an SD card?

Note: I don't have the tablet yet, so I cannot explore settings to see what the options are, but I have to imagine they will be very limited

[frigid kayak]

man.. the world of home automation.. just keep stumbling on stuff

anyone use shelly relays to install in their switches? they work solid?

[cold moon]

i prefer smart switches myself

[frigid kayak]

whats your goto?

[cold moon]

for zwave zooz light switches or dimmers, and for zigbee inovelli blues (assuming you are in the us)

https://dpaste.org/WRgK0 here's a pros and cons of smart switches vs dimmers vs smart bulbs vs dumb bulbs if you want to read over my justification for each

[frigid kayak]

yea, i agree with all that.. that's where i'm at.. just looking at what i have vs what i need vs what i want

can get a 4 pack of shelly's for $44..

[cold moon]

yep

they're a cheaper option i just dont like the idea of stuffing smart shit in a wall with a dumb switch, even if ultimately the end result is the same

however i also enjoy multi tap / hold / etc options on my smart switches

and i also like how they always look the same, not flipped up/down

[frigid kayak]

yea i currently dont use any of those options on mine so may be a solid choice

[cold moon]

and i like the controllable color LED

[frigid kayak]

?

[cold moon]

so you can do things like change the color based on alarm armed/disarmed

led on smart switches like zooz or inovelli

inovelli's design is way cooler imo

[frigid kayak]

color of the bulbs? or on the switches themsleves

[cold moon]

the switch itself

[frigid kayak]

oooh thats badass

[cold moon]

it has r/g/b/white color option that you can automate with in home assistant

so wife or girlfriend or wife's boyfriend can see if alarm is armed or w/e you decide to use it for

[frigid kayak]

lmfao

[south scroll]

unfortunately if youre in germany, the options for actual smart switches are limited

at least if you want them to integrate with your existing switch covers and not look shite

[cold moon]

ya i said in us above

in eu you guys get your pick of random chinese designed AND manufactured smart switches with mains voltage at 230v or w/e.. that's a hard no from me dawg

like aqara and xaiomi

[rich venture]

are you scared of 230v?

[cold moon]

everyone should be scared of 230 volts @ 15amp or more dude

you know.. because of the way that it can kill you

further, i absolutely am against trusting not just a chinese manufactured device, but one also designed by them and sold under brands like xaiomi and aqara at 230V

[rich venture]

yes but houses here have whole house gfci compared to just bathroom and sometimes kitchen in us

[cold moon]

you'll pop before the breaker does

[rich venture]

400v

[vapid socket]

That looks very complicated for my limited understanding 😵‍💫🙈

[kindred pelican]

humm, was looking for a zigbee one. I hate cloud.

[cold moon]

They have fully local control via HomeKit protocol over Wi-Fi to hass

No cloud needed at all

[kindred pelican]

ooo

[cold moon]

I have and like ecobee a lot

[kindred pelican]

meaning, it works with home automation server?

[cold moon]

Highly recommend just don’t buy their sensors

[kindred pelican]

home assistant*

[cold moon]

Yes

[kindred pelican]

unfortunately it seems like I have to get the one with the sensors.

[cold moon]

Just use your own zigbee or zwave room sensors

It’s ok if you have to buy one with a couple but don’t buy more

Better ones exist using zigbee or zwave

For cheaper

[kindred pelican]

I'm just unsure about wiring

[cold moon]

Then look it up

[kindred pelican]

like, I don't shy away from electronics projects, but since I'm a renter I am a bit more apprehensive.

I think I "need" the 2-wire

[sleek folio]

With the Amazon Day sale has anyone seen any good hardware sales?

[hexed galleon]

flume2 water meter

$100 less

https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Flume-monitores-inteligentes-hogar-detector/dp/B08DX6MP8X/ref=sr_1_5?__mk_es_US=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=flume+2&qid=1689112247&sr=8-5

[stoic scroll]

Did u find an answer to this? I'm looking to do the same. I need to know when my kids go in and out with a beep too

[young kayak]

Anyone recommend any indoor motion sensors?

[gentle heath]

I have some Sonoff S20s with espurna but for whatever reason they won't connect to my Ubiquiti AC-Pro anymore. Wondering if there's other recommended firmware or if anyone else has had issues? My Sonoff "Basics" seem fine, though

[tacit burrow]

Showing unavailable for me :/

[hexed galleon]

From USA it worked , i just purchased one

Maybe UK not available

[rapid quiver]

Amazon thermostat has a 100% rebate today. Is there an integration for this or would you recommend/not recommend this thermostat?

[sleek folio]

It looks like the only integration is through Alexa https://community.home-assistant.io/t/amazon-thermostat-integration/421286/3

[jagged crypt]

any other interesting HA like things on prime sales?

[cold moon]

https://www.amazon.com/BTF-LIGHTING-Flexible-Density-Uniform-Decoration/dp/B0BNBDSKVS 24v ws2811 fcob led strips are discounted 20%

[rapid quiver]

Is your advice to skip it/not buy it?

[jagged crypt]

So what else do i need for these?

[cold moon]

24v psu and 24v controller, ideally with an esp32 in it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmIcTIAlI74 video on the strips on question

[jagged crypt]

and a quinled controller

tempting, will have to think about it

[jagged crypt]

run all that on a microserver, leave your nas to store your files?

[devout parrot]

I have SimpliSafe and I like it. Easy to install, has options for monitoring plans so I get that home insurance discount, and the HA integration is solid, the people who develop that integration are really good especially given that SimpliSafe is fairly hostile towards any kind of third party integration of their product.

[devout parrot]

Hue motion sensors or Aqara P1.

[gloomy musk]

Hey im installing my inovelli blues and have a quick question. My current switch is wired like this: https://assets.lutron.com/a/documents/368-4493_page_5.pdf

Would the tagged wire be the live/line?

[cold moon]

You need to test with the power on to confirm then turn power off and confirm it’s off then do the work

[gloomy musk]

Got a no contact voltage tester. When flipping the dump switch, the votage switches from the traveler wire and the non tagged wire.
Which would leave me to believe that the tagged wire is in fact live. However, there never any voltage coming through the tagged wire... is that how it is supposed to be? That doesnt seem right

[fringe crater]

you're positive that the box you're poking in is the one nearest the breaker?

If you're in the "lutron" box with a non-contact tester, I wouldn't have thought that flipping the dumb switch at the end of the run would have any effect

[gloomy musk]

not 100% sure I suppose. I'm putting the inovellis in where the dimmers used to be.

also, it's a double gang, and the other switch is working as expected (the inovelli and its dumb switch, in 3 way mode), and its line wire is always live.

It occurs to me that I may be dumb and there may be only the 1 live wire into the box... in which case im still not sure what the flagged wire is

[devout parrot]

Ordered an S31 and the USB bridge you recommended, and after a little messing around to get the test hooks to sit right, I got it flashed and set this up. It's pretty cool ngl.

[steady void]

My Shelly 2.5 have started to turn off after a few seconds.It has worked for about two years.
I've completely disconnected it from HA so it's something with the device.
Firmware is up to date and the device has been rebooted. Anyone had the same issue? Is it replacement time?

[tacit burrow]

Any decent zigbee led strips on Amazon sale? Maybe @cold moon

[zealous dune]

you probably mean LED controllers

[tacit burrow]

I’m dumb. Probably need both right?

[zealous dune]

it's not dumb, its just lack of information

[tacit burrow]

I have a hue strip somewhere but I can’t find it

[zealous dune]

you need a power supply, led controller and a led strip. you can usually buy a kit that has all those but those kits are not great

[tacit burrow]

Looks like deals in au aren’t impulse-worthy

And link he posted above is us and $$$ shipping

[zealous dune]

AU never has good deal ime

aussies i know often buy from aliexpress

[tacit burrow]

Ya. Was just seeing if there was any don’t-miss deals, seems not. That’s ok, save my $ 🙂

[neon raptor]

Hello
I MUST install smart switches for my blinds (for thermal regulation thingies in my country)
But I don't know what to buy
Zigbee, wifi, smart switches, smart relay switches behind dumb switches ... ?
This is my current dumb switches : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/192269258900635648/1128607156980162580/IMG_20230712_103527.jpg

Also my normal dumb switches are "schneider eletric odace", they have a "wiser" subbrand that is connected but it doesn't seem to be well integrated in HA, so idk if it's a great idea to choose this, even if it would blend well with the other switches

So any recommendations ?

[winged knoll]

I'd personally go with a module behind the switch

[neon raptor]

Okay
Wifi or zigbee ?

[winged knoll]

Zigbee

The answer is almost always not WiFi

[neon raptor]

Okay, is there a reason ?

And do you know a model I could buy maybe ?

[winged knoll]

You were sensible enough to say my country, recognising that there's more than one country, and electrical standard, on this planet

That's more than most

But... you still forgot to say which 😉

[neon raptor]

oh yeah

[winged knoll]

Most WiFi stuff is cloud based, not local. Do you want your control to depend on somebody's cloud service? That and you having working Internet

[neon raptor]

France, 230V

I forgot there are people using 110V AC haha

[winged knoll]

That and there's more than just the EU electrical standard for 230V (or so)

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/ has a lot of options, I'd avoid anything that's Tuya, but the #zigbee-archived channel can provide feedback on specific devices

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/#v=Ubisys are expensive, but supposedly excellent quality.

Personally I'd look at the Xiaomi and Sonoff stuff

[zealous dune]

For France you also have Nodon and Legrand options

[winged knoll]

I've used Nodon's Z-Wave stuff, was very happy

[neon raptor]

Okay thanks for the info, i'll check that out

Oh wow i'm not putting 100eur in a module like that x) I hope there are cheaper options still good

I need 8 of them, it's gonna be way too expensive with those

[winged knoll]

The Xiaomi (T1) and Sonoff are cheaper and mostly good

[neon raptor]

Yeah i'll take a look thanks

Sonoff doesn't seem to make two channels relays

https://forum.hacf.fr/t/solution-pour-bien-integrer-linterrupteur-volet-roulant-connecte-zigbee-3-0-wiser-odace-blanc-s520567w/7035/9

Apparently this integrates well in HA nowadays, so I think i'll go for that

[outer knot]

@keen light I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[zealous dune]

what do you mean ZHA event over blueprints? they're not mutually exclusive

[keen light]

Sorry If I sound a bit confusing.

But from what I know some zigbee devices do not show any entity data in the logs. which requires a blueprint to trigger the features of the entity.

[The best example I can give is the Ikea tradfri shortcut button]
this one does not show any ZHA events in the device log on the device page in ZHA

[winged knoll]

They don't require blueprints

Blueprints can't do magic - they're just automations (or scripts) somebody else wrote

[zealous dune]

if you get a switch switch aka one with relays they will be switch entities in HA (mostly :D)

[drifting ember]

button /= switch

[keen light]

Thank you for verifying, then I will check it out in the following months. [current sale period has no good coupons anymore, since any savings is a benefit, if it means the difference between getting 5 or 7 switches for the same price].

[fluid zinc]

Lots of different approaches in the community to this, but thought I'd ask if anyone has personal experience... I have 2 Somfy blinds that came with my dormers with remotes. I am assuming they are RF 868 remotes. How would you integrate with HA? RF-Wifi adapter, or the Somfy connectivity kit? (or is there a 3rd option I don't know of?)

[frigid kayak]

The RM4.. Would I need one for each of my RF ceiling fan/lights or does one work for all in the house?

[devout parrot]

Just one.

[frigid kayak]

oh noice.. thanks mate

do they control both lights and fan or just?

but crap.. one issue i'll have is i lost my remotes lol

[strong violet]

is anyone familir with the Argon ONE raspberry pi case? And have any idea why it won't power on automatically when connected to the power supply? There's a power button, but also a pin setting to bypass that and power on automatically when power is supplied to the system, but it's just not working.

[fluid zinc]

I have it, and it works fine, as long as you've set the jumper right

I don't think anything was needed in settings as far as I remember, it just turns on when the power comes on. Maybe reset the jumper, restart and then reset it again?

[dense lintel]

any chance you have a POE hat on?

[devout parrot]

The RM4 can control whatever your remotes would be set up to control.
If you lost your remotes, you may need to buy a cheap remote in the right frequency to use to program your RM4. Typically setting up one of those remotes is just a matter of messing around with the dip switches until you find the right combination.

[strong violet]

No POE hat, and have reset the jumper and rebooted etc. no matter what it behaves like the jumper is just in the default position (ie power button must be pressed either way)

Can’t find anyone else with this problem. May be faulty.

[sly island]

Any stronger alternatives to a switchbot? I got one to make my dishwasher smart, but apparantly it doesnt have enough force (even though the button feels lighter than a lightswitch to me, which the bot CAN push down hard enough..

[rich venture]

the dumber the dishwasher is the easier is to make it smart
with mine i can just input settigs on push buttons and dial then when i want it to start up i can just turn on smart plug

[sly island]

Yeah mine is about the same, just a dial for settings. But turning it on/off with the smart plug has 2 quirks:

1. It will make a loud noise when turning on the plug, which sounds a bit scary from a longevity standpoint

2. It reminds its state when the power is disconnected. So if it is done washing and you turn it off with the plug it will just remain in it's done state when turned off. so then you need to turn the plug on, turn the dishwasher off, turn it on again and turn off the plug to set it up again

Especially the second part doesnt really seem "automation" to me.

[rich venture]

maybe switchbot doesent have enough travel to push the button compleatly

[idle zephyr]

does anyone have a good brand or device to measure whether a hose is running or not? pool people left the hose on causing a $500 bill so we want something that we can monitor by phone to know if the hose is running

[short sentinel]

Is there anything against the Sonoff dual r3 relais? I want to upgrade my shutter motors, I tried the shelly 2pm and the sonoff dual r3 out, the sonoff is running cooler, more reliable and it is way cheaper. I consider to install it to all my 10 shutter motors.

[upper iris]

Not hose specific, but you can install a water meter for your house. They can learn from your water usage and send notifications if it detects a leak. Would probably work for a running hose too. https://www.homewizard.com/watermeter/
This is one option. But depending on your region or type of water meter in your house it might not work.

[steep galleon]

I’d like to get a robot vacuum, but I’m not sure which one to get. I want it to not require an internet connection (I’m ok if I loose a feature or two bc of this) but I’d also like one that has an auto-empty dock. Anyone have any recommendations?

[zealous dune]

Any vacuum that has an official integration marked as local

A vacuum without an empty station is silly in 2023 anyway

[cold moon]

Roborock capable of being flashed with open valetudo open source fw is what I’d suggest

[zealous dune]

Dreame can also be flashed with Valetudo as can other brands on their list

[steep galleon]

Thank you, I was not aware of this project!

[cold moon]

I’ve heard good things I don’t have any personal experience with it

[steep galleon]

How do I find vacuums that are officially marked as local? I’m having lots of trouble finding any

[zealous dune]

You look for Local polling class of devices

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/xiaomi_miio/#xiaomi-mi-robot-vacuum

There's also a larger list when you include custom components

[willow timber]

oh neat, my vacuum is supported now

[hexed galleon]

what can I do to monitor a 400AMP main energy panel

[cold moon]

https://iotawatt.com/ i've heard good things about this

it's also FOSS

[hexed galleon]

seems nice but out of stock till september

[granite steeple]

Got my Aqara U100 lock today and set it up and was surprised that the homekit integration found the lock automatically. I only have 1 Bluetooth proxy in my house and it's not even close to the lock but it still picked it up and works super fast to control it

Probably still going to use the matter integration since I already have an M2 hub but just thought that was cool

[cold moon]

homekit works over wifi not bt

[granite steeple]

I was pretty sure it's Bluetooth especially since the lock doesn't even have wifi

[hexed galleon]

damn, that would have been an excellent solution

Just read everything about it

[cold moon]

would have been?

just wait til sept i guess

[gloomy spoke]

He's not making them anymore, right?

[cold moon]

oh shit

[gloomy spoke]

https://community.iotawatt.com/t/ending-retail-sales/5654

[cold moon]

hate to see that

@orchid escarp have you seen this?

[orchid escarp]

yup

design is open hardware tho, so you can still build one 🙂

[gloomy spoke]

He just didn't want to be a bookkeeper + shipper. Can't argue with that

[rich venture]

if you have 400a supply you probably have bunch of subpanels that are conventional in size, you could monitor those and just add up the numbers

[terse pebble]

Alterco has released the Shelly Pro 3EM-400 (at least in Europe)

[hexed galleon]

5 subpanels in fact

What can I use to monitor

Wanted to monitor main panel because seemed a bit cheaper than doing for every sub panel

Each sub panel has 175 amp -125 amp breaker

[hexed galleon]

Interesting!

Only thing my setup is monophasic that's for three phase I think it won't work ? (Not electrician)

[terse pebble]

The product page states: "The device can be configured to measure three separate circuits of a mono-phase electrical system." - but in doubt, their customer support can help

[sly island]

Whoops, I was gone for a bit, but it really seems to be the force, the arm doesnt go all the way as it does when pushing air

[scenic summit]

Is there a thread battery-powered color light? Something I can stick to a wall to show if laundry is running or not

[cold moon]

braces for random thread and matter hardware requests

[tawny viper]

random discovery, my fireplace doesn't have power. So there were no good battery options for my gas fireplace. Turns out the fireplace company actually came up iwth a decent solution, https://usfireplacestore.com/products/skytech-8001-tx-transmitter-for-smart-home-compatible-voice-on-off-remote-control-kit

because its essentially a dry switch, any smart plug works. given the encrypted rf, misc other options and headache. I truly don't hate their solution

100 bucks to not deal with batteries in the fireplace, etc worth it. I got plenty of other projects. Plus its our only heat when power goes, so having the original remote and knowing nothing changed is nice

[jagged crypt]

what are people using for bluetooth proxy kits (I know esp32 setup) but cases/antenna/psu? Looking for a more "finished" product if possible

[zealous dune]

GL-S10

[jagged crypt]

thank you

[vague coral]

if i lose access to the wifi that i use to set up a tasmota device, how can i access its ip menu again?

[zealous dune]

https://tasmota.github.io/docs/Device-Recovery/

[heady glacier]

I would like to use Phillips Hue light in my room and led strips from an other firm
Can somone recomend an remote cotrolll for controlling lights compatible with home assistant so i can controll both lights from different firms?

[uncut badger]

How are you doing zigbee?

[heady glacier]

What do you mean?

I'm searching something along the lines of this:

[uncut badger]

what are you controlling the hue bulb with?

[heady glacier]

what would you recomend im new to this?

A HueBrige or a Rasperrypie with home assistant on ot idk really im trying to get into this

[heady glacier]

Thats what i want to find out. Can i controll HUE bulbs with an remote or panel of an other brand as long as they are both conecctet with Home Assistant?

[devout parrot]

If the remote can interface with Home Assistant then yeah.

[heady glacier]

Where can i se those? If i go under Integrations > Remotes on theyr homepage i only find TV remotes

[uncut badger]

The way I would do this, is having a home assistant server with a usb stick zigbee controller (like a sky connect, or one of the others), pair the bulb with home assistant using that, and the LED strip (however that pairs. I'm assuming it does.) then I'd probably get a zigbee dimmer (like the hue one. which is handy if you need to reset hue bulbe) and pair that with home assistant. and then use automations to control both the bulb and the strip.

but that's pretty much on/off/ dim up/dim down

fancier controls would be via my phone

or get a controller with more buttons (like one of the loratap ones) and have some predefined scenes.

[zealous dune]

There are quite a few remotes built for the purpose of controlling rgbcw lights and they can be bound to the light directly if they're on the same Zigbee network

[violet brook]

so I'm probably asking something that's been asked a hundred times, but no matter how good my google fu is, I'm not quite finding the answer. I'm looking to set up a led strip recessed light along my hallway and I want it to be standard dimmer switch dimmable (not remote, not whatever is supplied by the manu), I wouldn't mind a remote if the lights have adjustable color temp, but regardless, they need to at least be warm to warm white. Anyone have reccos on strips like that? I would love to do a smart strip, but I want it switch functional heaven forbid any of those smarts go down 🙂

[zealous dune]

You're looking for a LED controller then, once you find it you choose the LED strip. Smart strips still turn off when you cut their power

[violet brook]

well, my dimmer switch will likely be the "smart" portion of the whole equation (got a good deal, have plenty), so I just need an led strip compatible with a dimmer and would hope all would be good 🙂

[zealous dune]

That probably won't happen 🙂

[violet brook]

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-curses-skeletor-angry-he-man-gif-15367692

[zealous dune]

Your dimmer is AC so you need to find an AC powered LED strip

[violet brook]

aaand now I know the google fu term I was missing, lol 😄 thank you

building a shadow gap light that can be both dumb and smart is a pain lol

loooooks like something like https://www.amazon.com/Enersystec-Dimmable-Dimmer-Waterproof-Outdoor/dp/B07PMJVZTL/ might be what I'm looking for

[zealous dune]

IF your dimmer works with those lights 🙂

[violet brook]

is gonna be this guy, so Imma hope (and test, clearly lol)
https://www.leviton.com/en/products/d26hd-1bw

[zealous dune]

Yep that'll probably work

[violet brook]

🫶 appreciate the assist 😄

down side of working with a blank slate of a house, I have so many cool ideas that now I have to learn the ins and outs of implementation 🤣

[zealous dune]

and 90% of people here wishes they were in your shoes

[winged knoll]

You wanted #diy-archived

[dreamy vale]

thanks. I will delete my message here 🙂

[frigid kayak]

Just got the 700 today and plugged it into my HA dedicated laptop.. Have the Z-Wave JS addon installed and running.. What do I do next? There a good guide anywhere? Remember I have most everything in SmartThings right now.. Thanks!

[winged knoll]

#zwave-archived can help with Z-Wave stuff

[mossy canyon]

Aren't there a few websites that have a database of things that are known to work with HA? I've been looking for it here on the discord but can't seem to find it.

[gloomy spoke]

Depends on how it's connected to HA

Start by looking at the integrations list in the docs

[mossy canyon]

Zigbee device, so the integrations list doesn't help super much.

I could ask in zigbee, I know, but honestly I don't care HOW it connects, zigbee is just easiest fo rme

[gloomy spoke]

https://zigbee.blakadder.com/

[mossy canyon]

Yeah that was the one, thanks

[gloomy spoke]

There's no way to answer that question in general

[mossy canyon]

Yep, I understand, but your answer was perfect 🙂 Thanks again, I found exactly what I was looking for. (I have to build my own dang blinds because I have trapezoidal windows and I'm not paying freaking $4500 for custom blinds/shades and I wanted a motorized driver that'd work with HA out of the box, found tons of options at that site.)

[steady void]

Just in case someone else has this problem and search for it here. I solved it by re-running the calibration.

[high sage]

Hello All, I am using Martin Jerry Tasmota light switches. I see there is an LED but it does not come on. I would like the led to be blue when off and red when on. Can anyone give me some advice on how to do this? Thanks

[karmic solar]

I am warming up to the idea of switching my wall light switches to Tasmota switches. If my network/HA goes down for whatever reason, if the light switch has a relay it should in theory toggle the light on and off still right?

[zealous dune]

mostly yes

[karmic solar]

I guess its just a case that if the light was toggled via software to be off, then the switch is mostly useless anyways

ugh think im getting my lines crossed - lots to think about as some light bulbs themselves will be smart, whilst others will be dumb

[zealous dune]

The great thing with Tasmota is that you can adapt it to any situation. Even have it control smart bulbs unless wifi goes out, then it can simply cut power to it

[karmic solar]

Its the physically toggling the switch with a smart bulb that gets me scratching my head. The relay would just turn the power off to the bulb no?

which to me means id have to turn the switch back on to then have the ability control the bulb

[neon bear]

Anyone know the differences between shelly relay switches? And what are some other brand alternatives used in the community?

[tulip scroll]

Has anyone got an am43 blinds drive. I bought one off of AliExpress but I think my blinds are too heavy to pull them up. It works great pulling the blinds down. But when it goes to pull it up he motor isn't strong up to spin it. Is there any solution I can do to ease the weight off of the motor and make it lighter so that it's able to drive the blinds?

[tawny viper]

I have a Miboxer remote

It uses Lightlink, so it operates completely independent of home assistant. at least my version does. My daughter can control her RGB lights with it. if HA goes down, internet, etc it doens't matter. so only negative is nothing gets reported in HA. my remote anyway. But for my daughter changing colors its great

[tawny viper]

I have one sitting by my blinds for the last 2 months

waiting for me

[tulip scroll]

@tawny viper did you have any issues with operating your blinds. Im tried the motor of different blinds in my house that are smaller and it works but for my blinds i guess they are just too heavy

Is there anyway to relieve the tension on the left side that way the blinds will be easier to pull?

[tawny viper]

oh i mean its literally been sitting in the box and I havent hooked it up

right next to my blinds for 2 months

[tulip scroll]

ahh i see

[tawny viper]

my wife is out of town, so its on my todo list this weekend

my blinds are pretty heavy, i can let you know

[tulip scroll]

that would be great.

[tawny viper]

ping me if you didn't hear. 2 little kids ADHD, and my shipment of inovelli Reds came in, 🙂

but i do plan to do the exact install this weekend

[pearl merlin]

Recentl started with HomeAssistant using some old hardware.

I'm now planning to migrate from RPi 3B to a virtual machine on a DSM923+. I have both running but want to run a benchmark before trying the migration. I found a lot of threads talking about benchmarks, but none worked for me - i assume they are for older versions or different build types.

What are the benchmark commands for RPi and for Synology VMM? Both are running Home Assistant 2023.7.1

[tacit burrow]

Do something meaningful for you, and time it. Maybe it’s making a backup. Rebooting. Power usage. Web response time. Ymmv

Or compare cpu spec https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-raspberry_pi_4_b_broadcom_bcm2711-vs-amd_ryzen_embedded_r1600

Looks like the r1600 is 2-3 times faster

But things like amount of ram, type of disk, and network, will all make a difference

[bleak pilot]

Looks like BroadLink RM4 is the recommended IR blaster (I want to control my AC). And in the room I do have outlets on the wall facing the AC unit as well as below it - so there is direct line-of-sight. But I'd like to just stick something into the outlet and have it there sticking out of the wall and not dangle stuff on cables, on the floor, etc. Is there a way to somehow set up the RM4 or maybe some other IR blaster that way?

[zealous dune]

there are plugs with remote controllers intended exactly for AC's

[bleak pilot]

Compatible with HA?

[zealous dune]

they're Tuya so "it depends"

[bleak pilot]

Can you tell me the name so I can look it up?
Also alternatives if you can.

[zealous dune]

do you accept any type of plug or do you have a specific electrical standard in your country?

[bleak pilot]

I guess any plug that fits an EU socket.

[zealous dune]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001223087845.html

[bleak pilot]

Ooh! I see there's ones that also have a temp/hygro sensors. If I could find one that I could just stick into an outlet, that would be awesome!

[winged knoll]

Keep in mind that those may well provide higher temperature readings than in reality

Mains powered devices generate heat, which if they have a temperature sensor is likely to give you a value that doesn't match reality any more

[zealous dune]

that is why they build them with external sensors on a cable

[bleak pilot]

Well I guess I could live with a single wire dangling along the wall...

Are there any of those favorited by the HA community?

[tawny viper]

nooooooo

😛

[bleak pilot]

Still better than having some can dangling on a wire and taking up space on the floor.

[bleak pilot]

What are the most popular temperature sensors people use?

I'm quite satisfied with this one. But I haven't used it with HA so maybe constantly talking to it will drain it.

I'm pretty annoyed that they changed the battery from AAA to CR though. I love being able to recharge them.

[winged knoll]

I use Xiaomi Aqara (Zigbee) and battery life is a year or two

For ones that can take a rechargeable battery the Develco "mini" takes two AA, but it doesn't have humidity

[fringe crater]

HA doesn't "talk to" those AFAIK. They just broadcast clear BLE, and your BLE receiver picks it up. Its one way communication.

[bleak pilot]

Oh, ok. Then it shouldn't change.

[fringe crater]

I see the LYWSD03MMC talked about more often, but I would guess that one is the same concept.

[bleak pilot]

I guess I could pick up broadcasts from these from my neighbours?

[fringe crater]

BLE is pretty short range

[winged knoll]

Though ... short is relative

[bleak pilot]

I live in an apartment building. 🙂

[winged knoll]

Plenty of complaints in #bluetooth-archived about people picking up devices in nearby houses

[bleak pilot]

Yeah I was very surprised to see that my outdoor radio sensor was long dead and the indoor unit was happily showing the ouside temp. 😄

I was planning to get a flood sensor for my bathroom and for the area with heating pipes and saw that they had temp/humidity sensors as well so that's pretty good.

[uncut badger]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/CR2032-Li-ion-Lir2032-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B00LPEFFNW

[bleak pilot]

Yeah I was aware these exist but there is probably no adapter for my battery charger or maybe even if there was the charger probably wouldn't charge this even as a li-ion battery?

[uncut badger]

it'd be a different charger I suspect

when I bought a pack recently, it came with the charger. 4 and charger for 8 quid or so.

[tawny viper]

I like my bluetooth inkbird in my freezer, takes AAA

[uncut badger]

but you can buy without

[tawny viper]

i think its 2 years

[uncut badger]

their lifespan is, however, reduced from regular ones. as you can see from the 'replaces 200' and 'rechargable 500 times'

[bleak pilot]

"Replaces 200 cells" - how? 😄

[solid salmon]

hey, i just saw this "HP EliteDesk 800 G1 SFF" with
Intel Core i3 -4100U (4th Gen) 3.3 Ghz 4G RAM 128GB SSD.

Any opinion on running HA (with docker) and Frigate with 4-5 PoE outdoor cameras? even using it only for frigate is alright.

[jovial verge]

Prob still want a coral or a GPU, but ask in #cameras-archived probably

[tawny viper]

Anyone have any suggestions for a ceiling light, that quite potentially has battery/rechargable that will last a long time? I doubt it exists. I really don't want to wire it in that room. ideally zigbee, but literally open to anything

[subtle meadow]

Does anyone know of a smart switch that would work for a split phase outlet. I am trying to find a way to switch off my in wall air conditioner at night and none of the smart plugs I see are for split phase.

[winged knoll]

Country?

[subtle meadow]

USA.

I am willing to use something normal that I have to wire up if I can just be sure it will work. It's old wiring so its a 3 wire connector so could I use something designed for single phase that has L N G? since I just have L1 L2 G?

neutral is current carrying so the device shouldn't care right?

I have a sonoff powr2 I thought maybe could work. Though the labels on it are weird. Input L G G, Output L N N

[tawny viper]

Do you need to control both outlets, or just one?

[subtle meadow]

i only have one split phase outlet in this addition to the house, and its runs the PTAC air conditioner (i know thats redundant). I just need to be able to shut that device off at night because its short cycling at night

[tawny viper]

if you have z wave. the "almond" jasco https://byjasco.com/enbrighten-z-wave-plus-light-almond-smart-tamper-resistant-outlet is cheap, only that color.. Zigbee i suggest, https://www.amazon.com/Sinopé-Smart-in-Wall-Outlet-Zigbee/dp/B083YR8BHD/ref=sr_1_9?crid=IEK8ITEZWV82&keywords=sinope&qid=1689190025&s=hi&sprefix=sinope%2Ctools%2C87&sr=1-9

[subtle meadow]

its spiking to 1700 wats for like 3 minutes then turning off for 5 minutes. It's fine during the day. But I also just don't need it running at night. I am willing to cut open the cord and wire something in

[tawny viper]

Essentially you would make the switch, an always on switch

and you would bind a zigbee button, or any outlet too it.

unless that doesn't solve your problem, might be to much for an A/c. but then also i'd still consider that strategy and a smart plug

afiak there are no code issues with turning a switched outlet into an always on outlet

[subtle meadow]

oh the outlet is not switched

[tawny viper]

split or switched, sorry, i meant split

[subtle meadow]

Sorry if that was unclear. I don't care about code anyway as this house is not up to code. The way the split phase is wired is wrong for todays code but was fine in teh past

[tawny viper]

sorry if i read it wrong

[subtle meadow]

if that plug works, that means anything that has LNG will work right? like this sonoff I have that is designed to be spliced into the cord?

I can change the outlet but it'd be easier if I could modify the device

I'll look at the plugs. Either way I am having to cut up the cord on the device so a smart outlet might be close to the same difficulty, might just have an unsightly wall hole but I can print an outlet cover if there is a gap

I have a z-wave dongle in a box somewhere and I need to get my z-wave stuff working so thats a good way to go to force me to do that. I am tired of google assistant saying "Sorry, 28 devices are not available" when i turn on or off the lights 🙂

[uncut badger]

if you shove everything into rooms in google assistant, you should be able to avoid that

or stop exposing them to google

[tall walrus]

Bit the bullet on a Aqara presence sensor during the Amazon sales and would highly recommend for open floor plans buildings. it’s replaced multiple motion sensors, a door sensor and does a far better job at it. Only downside is the cable.

[gloomy spoke]

Yeah, I really wish there was a way to run on battery, at least the Zigbee version

[devout parrot]

so what methods do any of y'all use to monitor the clothes dryer and push a notification when it's done?

[rich venture]

does washer light up a led when its done?
you can monitor that with a photoresistor

[bleak pilot]

Smart plug?

[rich venture]

if it has energy monitoring its doable but would need to be tuned for specific device

[cold moon]

Vibration sensors are popular

He asked about a dryer he’s already using a smart plug for washer

[zealous dune]

there is but a giant 20kg battery is not an improvement over a cable 😄

[zealous dune]

power monitoring plug

[bleak pilot]

The power drops from a few killowatts to <10W I assume. Not that much tuning needed.

[zealous dune]

i can detect in which mode the dryer is depending on the power consumption

[rich venture]

my drier uses about 500w

[devout parrot]

I've got the washer handled, it's on a flashed S31 and I set up that blueprint etc. The dryer though, I don't know if they make plugs that will work with an electric dryer.

[gusty sequoia]

you need a pretty heavy-duty one to handle that level of current, yeah

[rich venture]

you could do energy monitoring on the breaker side with shelly em

[gusty sequoia]

the only one I know of is the heavy-duty one from aeotec (z-wave) but there's probably others; or, yeah, use the breaker side

[zealous dune]

or a clamp style power monitor

[fleet moon]

So someone mentioned proxmox— what distro of Linux is the nicest one to throw on this little Lenovo box I just got

Oh never mind I see it runs the entire thing — neat

[devout parrot]

Debian if you're going that route, but yeah Proxmox is it's own distro built around virtualization.

Incidentally based on Debian lmao.

[wild atlas]

you can also install proxmox over other debian distros, like ubuntu

it comes packaged up nicely in the repos

[golden thorn]

Probably better to use the officially recommended and documented OS though

[peak talon]

If you have a linux distro, you can directly use LXD for VM and Linux containers. Much lightweight than proxmox. It by default does not come with UI. But there a docker image for its UI. Honestly the Cli is super easy and efficient

[rich venture]

i personally use debian with casa os as web ui/container manager

[peak talon]

Okay. But i was talking about VM and linux containers. Not docker containers. LXD enables you to have multiple "machines" on the same host...like any other hypervisor https://ubuntu.com/lxd

[golden thorn]

They probably want to run HAOS though

[wooden prairie]

Question for the hivemind, are there any wifi lightbulbs that can be set to work entirely without internet? I.e. setup with no cloud, install on subnet with no internet, and with just Home Assistant and/or MQTT visible. For all their misbehaviours, at least Zigbee bulbs work without The Internet, but all the retailers around here have dropped Zigbee and only sell Wifi bulbs now, which of course have their own apps and insist on phoning home.

Looking for advice on what to buy:

• "smart bulb"
• install and run entirely without public Internet, MQTT and HomeAssistant support a bonus
• mains is 220V, 50Hz, and the house has a mix of B22 and E27 sockets

I fully expect there are no such creatures, but I figure I can ask 🙂 thanks!

[peak talon]

There used to be tuya bulbs with esp chips that could be easily hacked with esphome. Now those are not available. Most tuya firmware are proprietary now with beken chipw, which is also hackable but i don't think bulbs were possible consistently

Your best bet is the switch with a dimmer and use a dimmer capable light.

Aqara still has zigbee bulbs though. So as ikea ones, but are relatively expensive

[tall walrus]

You can get halfway there with Tuya. VLAN off from your secure network, allow IA, setup on cloud & retrieve key, then block from IA and local DNS and use https://github.com/rospogrigio/localtuya/

[cold moon]

Many Wi-Fi bulbs can still be flashed with wled, esphome, or tasmota but I’m talking about this from a us 110v perspective

Don’t buy anything with the name tuya in it if you want quality or reliability period.

[wooden prairie]

Google showed me localtuya, which seems to be halfway there. Cracking the bulb open to grab jtag or serial and reflash works for me; but with 220V and kids, i might be better with things I don't have to break open..

[steep galleon]

Does anyone know how to connect to a levoit 600s air purifier without using the company’s cloud service? I’m trying to keep my HA setup 100% local

[devout parrot]

Yeah you might be better off with Zigbee. There are a handful of bulbs you can, very carefully, open up and flash but really you should just go Zigbee.

[tawny viper]

My biggest regret when starting was buying tuya. Just because it has an integration doesn't mean it's a good idea. Good bulbs help build a good network. For dumb devices sure, rgb stuff that's cheap. but light switches? I think I spent as much money wasted on tuya verse buying a higher quality the first time

[tall walrus]

I swear by Tuya and have saved literally thousands going this route. No issues at all with 30+ devices and at 2 years a bulb for £3 even if I was replacing them every 6 months it would still be more cost effective than Hue or anything else people consider more premium and in fact the one time I did (Nanoleaf) I had nothing but issues so YMMV

I’d wager most saying it’s bad will have been using the baked in integration which isn’t local, relies on the cloud and is absolutely awful, or have a congested/bad wifi network and have simply moved to zigbee based devices or something non-WiFi based so comparing experiences is a little moot.

10 wifi devices will be awful on say a carrier router but 10 zigbee devices don’t really touch it. It’s all about your network with any WiFi devices regardless of price.

Some things are awful - eg sensors that only ping out over the internet but anything locally controllable while being able to completely segregate the device from the internet for this price is absolute 🔥

[wooden prairie]

My lan is UniFi, so should tolerate a few more devices and I have an isolated subnet for all the IoT things, with zero internet. Zigbee has been a lot more reliable since I ditched the cc2530 dongle and got a zigbee3 one with a decent antenna. I think I would prefer zigbee bulbs for the cloud-free; but no one near me seems to sell them any more 😦

[tall walrus]

I’m looking specifically for thread as I upgrade now, though a lot of my Aqara kit is zigbee (sensors/blinds/curtains) the bulbs just seem so rare unless you go ikea - and wow if people think tuya is bad, can’t even use adaptive lighting with those which is a must for me.

[zealous dune]

There are bulbs with Tasmota or esphome preflashed, Matter bulbs started coming out too which are local

[tall walrus]

Was reading about the espressif matter bits with the new chips and that, game changer for the cheap local smart home devices once those are being thrown at every cheap manus white-labelled devices.

[spiral wagon]

Is there any smart washing machine with home assistant integration?

[bleak pilot]

I don't suppose there is some list of sensors, IR blasters, etc. that people use and recommend?

[spiral wagon]

no, I am not looking for sensors , I am looking for a washing machine itself that is smart and can be integrated with home assistant

[bleak pilot]

There are things I'm looking for as well.

[zealous dune]

I know AEG/Electrolux and Samsung have some sort of integration

[zealous dune]

No, there are individual creators that have their lists, some sponsored, some not

[wooden prairie]

"Athom" brand have Tasmota preflashed. Interesting, very interesting...

Lucky Goldstar ("LG") wifi appliances can be bodged into Home Assistant, but my understanding is this only works if you leave the "cloud" part enabled. I.e. no local. Strangely, we didn't buy that model

[bleak pilot]

Can you share some if you have any on hand?

Anybody else put off by the presence of those stupid smiley faces on some sensors with screens or is it just me? 😄

[wooden prairie]

Depends how professional I am feeling. A "cutsey" product with the smily faces and winking emoji when you push "start" is fine, if tedious, at home. But if this is supposed to be a serious product for doing serious work, not so much

[bleak pilot]

I'm talking about the ones which frown if it's cold or humid.

[zealous dune]

I don't keep any on hand

[zealous dune]

You said integrated in home assistant, that includes all types of integration including cloud

[zealous dune]

There's the reality of kitchen appliances being targeted to a specific market segment that's known for liking cutesy

[wooden prairie]

Yup. Weird people like me who love toys and hate The Cloud aren't really the target audience for modern appliances 🙂

[spiral wagon]

any idea if they can be run locally with internet blocked?

[zealous dune]

If their integration says "local" then yes

[sly owl]

I want the Fingerbot on Zigbee because it's cool but I don't have any use cases for it. Anyone found a creative use case? 😄

[terse pebble]

Selfdestruct device for the HA host machine? Pressing the power button or pushing the USB power cable out

[cold moon]

Why not an Ethernet guillotine?

[terse pebble]

Don't know if it is powerful enough for that 🤷

[cold moon]

Not with that attitude

[rich venture]

for that you just need to cut one wire (orange one)

[little ibex]

I think my SDR is over heating. Any recommendations for a decent one that will last?

[trim jay]

So many channels, please direct me to the right place, if i am wrong. I want to add some LED Strips to my Setup, without external cloud, is there some product which is known to work good?

[devout parrot]

The best option from what I've seen from people here is probably to #diy-archived build your own strips using wled or esphome, but there are probably some #zigbee-archived controllers that will come recommended if you want a readymade solution.

[trim jay]

Seems like Sonoff stuff can be localy controlled, I think I will just test that. worst case my nephew gets a LED strip to play with

[devout parrot]

Yeah sonoff's mains powered Zigbee stuff is decent, and a lot of their WiFi devices can be flashed with esphome or Tasmota for proper local control.

[cold moon]

It’s wled or esphome not +

If he wants ready to go buy athom controller and an led strip

Like ws2812b

[zealous dune]

don't, its a waste of money

[trim jay]

hmm, ok

uh, the ws2812b seems expensive

[zealous dune]

what do you plan to do with the LED strip?

[trim jay]

1st project is my new desk, doing some lights under it

[zealous dune]

well yeah, LED strips are for some lights

do you have a need for an addressable led strip for that purpose?

[trim jay]

just to play with it for now, but seems those are way cheaper on ali...

[zealous dune]

almost everything is 😄

[trim jay]

yeah, if it is the real stuff, not liek 64TB SSDs 😉

[zealous dune]

if the LED strip is 3$ and claims 1000W its probably not real

and fake SSDs can be easily found on Amazon

[trim jay]

wait, is the controller included with ws2812b? or do i need the athom with it?

ah no power supply either, need to pay attention

[zealous dune]

depends on where you're looking

[trim jay]

was wondering because the strips are listed with Bluetooth

[zealous dune]

yes you need a LED strip, appropriate controller and appropriate power supply

[trim jay]

wow the power draw is higher then i would have expected

60leds/m----18watt/meter, and then power supplies only go up to 50W, i am confused

Ah found different ones, but can somebody confirm that those strips general pull that much?

[cold moon]

https://quinled.info/2020/03/12/digital-led-power-usage/

if you want to do big projects consider his boards instead of athom ones

he has boards with > 2oz copper in them delivering 30a continous with 50a burst

often used for big projects like leds around the house

you can do it all yourself with an esp32 and fuses and wires and relay(s) if you are that guy too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397426163649216512/914682412099850280/video0.mov my disco kitchen using one of his dig quads

[trim jay]

I will do max maybe 6-8m, if i decide to light up beneath my couch

[cold moon]

i really need to redo it, that was my first big project and made some mistakes

for stuff like under bed / under desk you can get away with 30/meter instead of 60/meter and even limit brightness in software

i power 150leds in a 5meter 30/meter ws2812b strip under my bed with 3amps (limited to 2.4a in the controller to not overload the psu) and it looks great

[trim jay]

Athom ESPHome?

[hexed galleon]

I bought Shelly pro 3em 400 amp

Will let you know how it goes for me

[cold moon]

athom is a chinese brand. esphome is open source firmware

[trim jay]

that is way less then i found there

[cold moon]

how bright do you need your bed to be?

or desk

[trim jay]

not sure, but i don't think that bright, just to look 'cool' and RGB getes more kills of course

[cold moon]

yep

[trim jay]

well, and flex on my nephews...

[cold moon]

you can put leds behind the monitor/tv too with stuff like hyperion

[trim jay]

don't like that

my monitor even has a led ring on the back

[cold moon]

https://quinled.info/quinled-dig2go/ he sells these too

little 3amp controllers with a built in mic for sound reactive

there are lots of controllers out there tho

like all over tindie

[trim jay]

right now i am just playin and testing if i like that in my home, so a kind oob experience would be helpful

[cold moon]

https://www.drzzs.com/shop/dig2go/ these have options for rgb strip + power supply + controller for around $50 which isnt really cheap but isnt a huge markup

[trim jay]

wled, another new letter combination

[cold moon]

wled is open source firmware a lot of us flash on the controllers

it has a lot of neat features and is very easy to use, and the wled home assistant integration works well

[trim jay]

well, i am in germany, so shipping and tarifs are a thing

[cold moon]

well

you should mention that

otherwise it's assumed you live in murica on the internet

in that case i'd buy shit directly from alie and just do diy stuff

[trim jay]

Athom looks nice with all the firmware variants

[cold moon]

https://shop.allnetchina.cn/collections/quinled/products/quinled-dig2go-portable-digital-led-controller-kits or buy from his china store

firmware takes like 10seconds to flash these days but yeah

[trim jay]

if you can do it at all

[cold moon]

https://install.wled.me/

web flashers using chromium browsers are popular now

[terse pebble]

Good old times with 22 EUR tax-free imports

[trim jay]

yeah, they screwed us

[cold moon]

ya but that clean coal sure is somethin

[trim jay]

wled uses the same strips? sorry, so much new information, getting bit confused

[cold moon]

wled is open source firmware that can be flashed onto espressif microcontrollers (such as esp32, esp8266)

[terse pebble]

2028 it will get worse - the 150 EUR duty-free limit will be dropped

[cold moon]

it supports many types of led strips

A fast and feature-rich implementation of an ESP8266/ESP32 webserver to control NeoPixel (WS2812B, WS2811, SK6812) LEDs or also SPI based chipsets like the WS2801 and APA102!

https://kno.wled.ge/

maybe best if you look at their knowledge base^

ws2812b aka neopixel are one type of RGB (not RGBW) 5v led strip that are cheap and popular

[trim jay]

guess that is the difference for different strips: Output channel: RGBW channel

[cold moon]

that is a difference

[trim jay]

i see

[cold moon]

quindor has writeups on all this and youtube videos if you want to jump off the deep end

[trim jay]

more for the pile of shame 😉

Oh, Athom has nice starter kits

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005300323985.html this one looks like a good start

[cold moon]

i wouldnt suggest using their 10amp power supply with a barrel connector

the barrel connectors are almost all rated at 3amp and get melty after that

and athom is just a chinese company with a us storefront and cute name

[rich venture]

you would want to inject 5v down the line anyway

[cold moon]

same with the 3-pin jst-sm connectors, those are also rated at 3amps

[rich venture]

bc thin pcb no likey 10a

[trim jay]

If i look, buying the strip and the controller seperate would not get cheaper then the set, can replace the power supply here easily

[cold moon]

you just cut the end off the psu and use wagos and wire to solder to esp32 or board directly

and inject power at end of strip like martin said above

[trim jay]

that would work too

from the same psu?

[cold moon]

i literally had one of those barrel connectors fail on me and cut it off and soldered direct

glad it didnt start a fire

[cold moon]

why not

[rich venture]

it can be from same psu bc dedicated wire will provide lower resistance path compared to led strip pcb

[cold moon]

if you mix psus you have to tie grounds together (but not power/vcc)

[trim jay]

must admit my electronic days are a bit behind me, would thought it makes no difference, but that of course depends on how the leds are chained

[cold moon]

there's a resistor after each led in ws2812b

you can see it on the strips

[trim jay]

ok, understood

[cold moon]

anyways

i wouldnt buy that kit

[trim jay]

thanks very much for all the information

[cold moon]

especially not from aliexpress

not all ws2812b are the same

most of us only buy from btf lighting cuz the failure rates seem to be lowest and colors less shit

[trim jay]

funny enough the 1st i looked was btf

[cold moon]

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1100777574?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.2.1da819c49eL8wZ they have an official store on alie

or resell at 2x-3x the price on amazon under the same name

that's one thing i really like about quindor's hardware+guides- he's made it very easy for someone to make a safe installation without knowing shit

[trim jay]

was looking at those https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2036819167.html

[rich venture]

thats alot of wires

[cold moon]

no u

[cold moon]

ws2812b ip30 60/meter or 30/meter either color pcb whatever length you want

you can also go for 12v or 24v but there are usually tradeoffs

[trim jay]

this controller seems to not care about which strip type, just wire it differently https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005772664243.html

[cold moon]

i'd probably buy the ir remote if getting that just to have one

that one has both spots to do data line for addressable or analog strips with color temp control

[trim jay]

sound like something to start experimenting with and learn for later projects

[cold moon]

sure

i dont think that one is using an esp32 tho

nope ```This WLED controller support both analog and addressable strip

Build in ESP8285 chipset with 2M flash```

probably fine for your use case

[trim jay]

Ort this one? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003777230140.html

This would be my Checkout

[cold moon]

Might as well buy Meanwell psu if you’re buying that metal cage style

[trim jay]

did not think about the primary side...

[cold moon]

You just cut off an old computer power supply end

You have a big box of them right?

They’re rated way higher than what you’re using

[trim jay]

i don't order a psu, those are the same price over here

[cold moon]

Cool

[trim jay]

just checked

even cheaper lol

the mean well ones

[cold moon]

They’re the best

Least firey

[trim jay]

and ask my brother to install a sufficient primary connector... thats his job after all

or i connect them to a pc psu after all

[cold moon]

Not a pc power supply…

[trim jay]

will work too

[cold moon]

Okay

[trim jay]

but only for testing, too big

So August I should have that stuff

[devout parrot]

You know what while we're on the topic of led strips.
My kid has a led strip in her room, it's got 4 pins: RGB and VCC. It's got a shitty IR controller and a 24v power supply. I'm in the US btw
What smart solution can I replace that with?

[cold moon]

Should be able to use any analog controller with 24v out you want

Or diy with an esp32 and mosfets

Athom sells a cheap analog wled controller with an esp8285 in it iirc

[hexed galleon]

So I'm in charge of a new apartment for my brother of 150m2, he will be married and we just bought that apartment for him

I want to give him as wedding gift the automation of the apartment

I am not sure of what devices to use

[cold moon]

That’s a tall order dude

[hexed galleon]

If ZigBee, zwave or wifi devices

I don't want him calling me in at 3am saying light is not turning off haha

[winged knoll]

Zigbee is likely a better choice, at least if you're smart about what you buy

Buying random devices is likely to work out poorly though

[devout parrot]

So the LS-5P would work for this application even though there won't be anything to connect to the "W" channel?

[cold moon]

You set rgb rgbw etc in wled settings based on led strip used

And pins connected

[devout parrot]

Sick thanks.

[cold moon]

You can reuse the ir remote with a controller with ir built in but it’s a bitch to compile wled for it and program it

I personally haven’t played with ir due to said bitch

Athom sells a version with ir precompiled for their specific 24 button remote or w/e

[devout parrot]

honestly half the reason I want to replace the controller is that she keeps losing the remote.

[cold moon]

They are generic

You could have 10 of them

And control via hass or remote

Or wled app

Or json http api

You can even compile usermods for random additional control options like the clapper

https://github.com/ChuckMash/WLED/tree/Smack_That_Usermod/usermods/smack_that

Lol

[gusty onyx]

I bought a few tradfri wireless dimmer with no hub and i got ZHA...

Do i need the addon Ikea Tradfri from HA or use ZHA install

[devout parrot]

You don't need the Ikea integration, just ZHA, you only need the integration if you're trying to connect HA to a Tradfri hub

[gusty onyx]

trying it but it seems that my ZHA is having issues since this power outage happened this morning.. messed up my HA pretty bad

[hexed galleon]

SONOFF NSPanel WiFi Smart Scene Wall Switch,2-Switch Panel Smart Home Control,Touchscreen Control for Smart Temperature Function,Lights,Work with Alexa & Google Home Assistant,Black https://a.co/d/4MAnWKm

Have anyone tried that ?

[zealous dune]

why?

[hoary relic]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662

[cold moon]

LED strips or bulbs?

[hoary relic]

i was looking at the hexagon lights, brianstorming where to throw em

[cold moon]

Oh

[hoary relic]

then it got me wondering if i can use them in automations

[cold moon]

3d printer?

[hoary relic]

eh?

[cold moon]

Do you have one

[hoary relic]

i do?

i mean, i do, but im not following

[cold moon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

https://www.printables.com/model/107555-geoleaf-3d-print-your-own-nanoleaf-project-alexa-h

You can make your own with open source firmware like wled

[hoary relic]

ah, yea i knew that, i saw a similar thing on....tested? i think?

[cold moon]

Adam savage the startup YouTuber?

Neat

[hoary relic]

ya

[cold moon]

Definitely not backed by millions

Just a guy in his shop

[hoary relic]

im pretty sure that shop is an entire warehouse

[cold moon]

It’s a joke

I don’t find limitless money interesting

[hoary relic]

ya but he talks about it like its right down stairs from his house

which, it might be

[cold moon]

When you live in an ivory tower everything is right down the stairs

[hoary relic]

convenient tower

[cold moon]

Anyways point is you can make your own led strips using open source firmware and cheap microcontrollers like esp32

[hoary relic]

but anyway, can you roll govee lights into automations and whatnot locally or is it all cloud based?

[cold moon]

You can buy you shouldn’t buy them in the first place

They aren’t selling better leds

They’re selling cloud connected Chinese hardware at a 300% markup

Also govee themselves is a Chinese conglomerate

[hoary relic]

was this some sort of secret?

[cold moon]

Sure

[hoary relic]

we're all aware

[cold moon]

We?

[hoary relic]

you, me and the queen

[cold moon]

Are you asking for advice or just being weird?

[hoary relic]

i was asking about govee and you went on a tangent

they're all dumb overpriced anyway

i dliek to see a tear down and see how they diffuse the leds

[fleet moon]

Just migrated HA to a VM with proxmox and was curious if anyone had some RAM recommendations / guidelines? System has 16gb RAM and current VM has been assigned 4

[gloomy spoke]

That's fine

[fleet moon]

Maybe it also means just looking at the VM for spikes in memory

[devout parrot]

You can but 4 should be plenty unless you start having problems.

[devout parrot]

Every day I find more reasons to talk my wife into a 3D printer.

Sure I could go to the public library and use the printers there but that's less practical for major projects.

[devout parrot]

You can integrate them, there's even a local API, but like. Why would you do that when there are better options that won't stop working if Govee decides they don't like local control being an option?

[cold moon]

It’s less practical for any application once you understand 3d printing

[hoary relic]

whats a better option?

[devout parrot]

probably nanoleaf for the panels if you don't want to build your own, since that has an official integration and it's local push.

[wooden prairie]

3d printers have many fine uses and are a source of great fun. And frustration. Newer designs with automatic leveling and some actual care on first layer are better than the Ender3 of 4-5y ago

And, of course, both Marlin and Klipper have HomeAssistant connections 😄

[vague kraken]

anyone can answer this? https://github.com/raomin/ESPAltherma/discussions/302

[kindred glade]

Hi I'm from India and purchased a smart switch hub from a company called tinxy That requires live and neutral to be powered but my switch board doesn't seem to have neutral in it , it has a common phase line for the switches and the other end of the switches go on to the fans and lights etc so yea, however there are a bunch of wires just passing thru the switch board hole(without connecting to any switches just wall access. What would be the way to figure out if they have neutral or any other option?

I could post pictures of the wirings here if needed

Any help would be appreciated

[weak dust]

I can buy a D54250WYK (i5 4520u, 8gb ram and 250 ssd with a replaced fan 1 year ago) for 50 euro. Is it worth grabbing that or spending some more money for a more powerful NUC?

[zealous dune]

for what?

[weak dust]

At the momeny, only proxmox and HA, but might expand in the future.

I know it's strong enough for HA. However, what I really mean is, is it worth 50 euro or should I buy a more powerful one just in case I want to dabble in more powerful stuff like adding a plex server.

[zealous dune]

do you want to dabble in more powerful stuff?

[weak dust]

I don't know. I'm just going down the HA route.

[zealous dune]

how should we know if you need a more powerful computer if you don't know what you want to do with it?

[weak dust]

Maybe from observered experience that it's common for people to do more stuff or not. Maybe from personal experience. Or simply advice. Maybe knowledge if that kind of NUC is worth the 50 euro today.

[zealous dune]

my observed experience is that people do whatever they want to do. the nuc is worth 50 euro if thats the fair market price for your country, second hand market is not the same worldwide

[gentle fossil]

Pretty sure it works quite well if your setup is tuned properly.
On the other hand you can always just plug things together and have something working but at the cost of processing cycles. Which leads to the need for more performant machines.

[zealous dune]

the mere fact you're not sure it'll be enough would indicate it'll probably not be enough at some future point

[weak dust]

Thanks, that is decent advices.

[bleak pilot]

I currently only have a bluetooth temp/humidity sensor. I intend to add one more, a couple of IR blasters for AC and a couple of flood sensors. Possibly something else in the future. Would going the bluetooth route be a bad idea? I currently have no gateways and intend to use an old laptop I have as a bluetooth "gateway" as well as a bunch of other functions.
Another option might be wifi but that probably uses a lot of power and I suspect my AP will start dropping clients.

[zealous dune]

why not get a better AP then if yours is that bad?

[bleak pilot]

I think all of them are bad. 😄

And I probably don't want that chinesium stuff on my network anyway.
But I'm wondering are there any significant downsides to sticking with bluetooth and not one of those zwave/zigbee/whatever standards?

[zealous dune]

apart from bluetooth being the inferior protocol, no

[bleak pilot]

Why is it inferior?

[terse pebble]

No mesh-networking, no direct binding,.

[bleak pilot]

Hmm... I just realized that I also have these analog floor heating Danfoss thermostats that I'd like to make smart. What should I know about them so that I get a compatible one?

[karmic wolf]

Just upgraded from rPi to NUC

[zealous dune]

congrats

[karmic wolf]

It's funny rPi are so desired if nucs and thinkstations are so cheap and accesible second hand

[zealous dune]

it has good marketing from the times they were 25$

[karmic wolf]

And as a consecuence of that 90% of tutorials call for raspberry pis

[severe mantle]

Hi,
Anyone else who has issues with IKEA's old motion sensor (Type: E1525)?
Two of my sensors are showing the battery level 255%

[bleak pilot]

My thermostat looks exactly like this one: https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/danfoss-basicplus-and-basicplus2-room-thermostats-088u0601-18946930333.html
Is there some wiring standard or something that a smart one would need to be compatible with?

[tall walrus]

If you use a Thinkstation for things you could easily use a Pi 4 you’ll pay for it in electricity long term, not to mention you could stick the pi anywhere but need to accommodate a tower setup with something like this. There’s a plethora of reasons why one might pick one over the other outside of price to performance.

Kinda like the old “why would you buy a laptop when you can build a better pc cheaper” argument, it’s not incorrect if you only look at specs but it’s ignoring all the things that make laptops essential for some people.

[subtle plinth]

The wife and kids are going to the summer cabin next week, I’m left alone at home because my vacation doesn’t start quite yet.

So naturally I ordered a bunch of switch modules, really hoping they’ll come before the end of the week 😅

Got a bunch of Aqara T1 to test first

I just recently found out that there are no neutral switch modules with a reasonable price

Not that long ago most modules required neutral, were very expensive and still were often z-wave

[bleak pilot]

So if mine is the FH-CWT mentioned here: https://assets.danfoss.com/documents/79629/AI173286471459en-010201.pdf is it fair to assume there's 230V power and then it just shorts the circuit when heating is needed?
Or what the "valve NO" and "valve NC" refer to in https://assets.danfoss.com/documents/latest/30431/AN02998646815001-010201.pdf ?

[wooden prairie]

Normally Open and Normally Closed. With no control signal applied, Common and Normally Closed are connected. When the control signal is applied, it changes to connect Common and Normally Open

[upper yoke]

is it safe to put a window air conditioner on a sonoff smart switch?

[zealous dune]

depends on which sonoff switch and how much power the air conditioner draws

[upper yoke]

do I just look at the maximum wattage of the sonoff and compare it to the power draw of my air conditioner?

[zealous dune]

or just say which sonoff switch

[upper yoke]

😅 its the s31

[zealous dune]

which is a plug not a switch

then yes, compare the max AC power draw with S31's

then leave 20% room

[upper yoke]

does amperage matter?

[zealous dune]

they're all related

amperage, wattage and voltage

[rich venture]

will you use smart plug to start the ac?

it also depends on the ac unit
cheap ones dont have soft starter or inverter so it experiences large inrush currents and will destroy relay quickly

[upper yoke]

this is what it says on the side. but, no. im going to turn it on and off with an ir blaster.

[rich venture]

what do you want to achieve?
monitor power usage or turn it on/off

[upper yoke]

monitor if it is on already so that i can automate sending on/off commands via broadlink IR based on temperature in the room and outside.

[rich venture]

no danger then

[upper yoke]

so long as i dont toggle the sonoff off/on?

[rich venture]

yup

[bleak pilot]

Can you rephrase that? 😄
At any rate, would a thermostat from any other company be compatible or should I look for something specific?

[fleet moon]

omg, HA restarts so much faster when it's not on an RPi4 and SD card storage

[bleak pilot]

Is that important at all?

[gloomy spoke]

Depends on how often you restart HA. I just did it three times within 5 minutes getting ESP Presence configured

Fewer things require HA restarts now than several years ago, but it's still annoying if it takes minutes to boot

[winged knoll]

Also makes upgrades quicker

A 15+ minute upgrade + restart time was no fun

[bleak pilot]

If I want to control my water floor heating and AC (only possible via IR I guess) I could probably use the same sensor for temp/humidity in the heating thermostat for both? I guess there are probably no thermostats that would both control floor heating as well as send IR to an AC unit?

So in the winter the smart thermostat would either keep a set temp or be set from HA to do something. And in the summer I'd set it to something like 10ºC to not start the pump and just use it to get the temperature. And then use IR blasters with HA to send commands to the AC units.
Does this make sense?

[rugged pike]

Greetings fellow automators. I have a question. I was thinking of getting a tablet for reading some books (im a weirdo who likes to read in darkmode with a backlight). was thinking of getting a tablet just for that. so thats an el-cheapo in my books. but that got me to thinking. Does anyone program automations using a tablet? if so what do you use/would you reccomend. is a stylus a requirement? Thing is i tend to use alot of code, prefer to YAML so i dont really see a tablet forfilling this role. The only reason i'm exploring it is because im struggling to find the time to work on my automations. figured a tablet might enable me to do so during wife time haha.

any advice is welcome. Cheers

[foggy void]

Hey, I have a question. I'm planning to set up the HA server on a dirt-cheap WYSE thin client tomorrow.
Question: can I plug in regular pc speakers, or any other wired analog ones, and use them as an alarm for alarm clocks and notifications? or do I need to buy an amazon echo/google home speaker?
EDIT: I found some solutions with USB speakers, but they had HA on PI, just curious if I can utilize an onboard soundcard in my WYSE.

[tacit burrow]

Why not setup all your automations on a real computer? They're not "on" the device anyway, they're all in HA

If you're doing yaml, things tend to get a bit messy on a tablet - page widths and stuff

[tawny viper]

Were not kidding on the dumb part

My wife is away

I should send this to her and say I set it up

[maiden current]

Be careful though. The S31 is only rated to 5amps, your AC draws 5.5amps. The plug might get really warm and/or burn out earlier than expected (even if not using as 'the' switch). I would recommend the S40 that's rated to 15amps. That would give you more than enough amperage wiggle room that Blackadder suggested.

[devout parrot]

The S31 is rated for 15 amps.

15A/1800W

[tulip scroll]

Haha that would be hilarious

Although it looks stupid, it suprisingly works very well.

2kg worth of batteries and fishing weights

[subtle plinth]

Just accept your fate, and do it when you have time 🤷🏻‍♂️

I have just recently started to find time to actually work on my smart home setup

I’ve been thinking about this stuff for good 7-10years now

Committed to Unraid as server OS probably 2-3 years ago

And I’ve managed to actually get something done in the last 4 months 😂

And just this starting week I’ll probably create my first automations after something like 6 years with none

[rugged pike]

i fear you are correct. It is what it is. still appreciated

[plush smelt]

hey guys, i've got a quick question about the sensibo sky i can't find resolute answers for online

if i set it up, can i use my current dumb remote to control the a/c and the sensibo can pick up that signal and update the app to whatever i changed it to?

[drifting grove]

Hi, all, i have recently installed solar pannels and managed to make HA retrieve the data from the inverter. Issue is that inverter is not such good quality so often it provides unreliable data (es: Batt SOC-580%, Live Solar Power 60kW and after a few minutes it gets back to normal). I am looking for a solution to have stable data on battery side so i am looking for a solution to monitor the power (IN&OUT) directly from the cables connecting the Batt<->Inverter. Is there any device that you can suggest me that i can integrate into HA that is able to retrieve this type of info ? (es an amperometric sensor for DC current) ? Thanks in advance

[cosmic crane]

Hi, I run HAOS on an intel nuc. I want some network storage that can be accessed by PCs, laptops, mobiles etc. I dont want to buy a NAS. Is there a way to add an external HDD/SSD to my HAOS nuc and designate that as a network drive?

[last pasture]

Hi guys, i have ESPHome with a ESP8266 device with a led light and 5 buttons. The buttons use the internal pull-up resistor. However every night at 3 they suddenly all activate. Does someone know what the cause could be of this?

[winged knoll]

#diy-archived or the ESPHome Discord would be a better place to ask

[last pasture]

Thanks!

[sudden galleon]

anyone have a recommendation for decent dumb/smart dehumidifier?

[rich venture]

buy dumb and use smart plug with it

maybe upgrade it with condensate pump

[sudden galleon]

thats what I want since I got smart plugs laying around

[fleet moon]

I don't think HAOS is setup for that specifically ... you might look at using proxmox and having a VM that can deal with the external drive

[sudden galleon]

any recomendation for dehumidifier if u r maybe using one?

[rich venture]

i am not using one but make sure it uses refrigiration compressor and not peltier element

since peltier ones are super cheap but super useless and inefficient

[drifting grove]

Not sure if I ask a correct hardware question. But… ;). Does anyone know a good source of thin clients used for HA?

[gloomy spoke]

To access the HA dashboard or to run HA?

[drifting grove]

To run HA. I have it running in Docker on a Pi3. That runs fine for me.

But I want to move away from an SD card as storage and a proper casing.

[uncut badger]

ebay, generally

[drifting grove]

I mean a source to compare. What is a good thin client.

My mistake. 😉

[gloomy spoke]

What do you mean? I've gotten my machines from Amazon. Do you mean compare specs?

[drifting grove]

The last one yes.

I was looking through some sites. And it is hard to get proper information. But I think that a thin client of, let’s say 5 years old, is very comparable to my current setup with Docker on Pi3B.