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copper juniper
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not the default

rocky trail
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yeah. ok well at least I have decided not to buy new hardware yet.

copper juniper
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if you do; mini pc seems best mix

rocky trail
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yeah, for sure. I just randomly ended up with this thing and it'll work out okay. core i5-1035G1, 12GB DDR4, geforce mx130

copper juniper
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oh nice

rocky trail
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when it was in windows briefly, it seemed like it was just using the integrated graphics not the discrete, so I should be able to just use that in a VM/container for acceleration

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will probably just take a little effort to figure it all out

copper juniper
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yeah lots of reading

rocky trail
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lol could even take out the motherboard and 3d print a case to stick it in the rack 😂

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Just watched a teardown video. Not bad at all

copper juniper
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touch screen?

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use a seprate vm on it as a ha kiosk

rocky trail
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Don't think it's touchscreen

copper juniper
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so kiosk with mouse

rocky trail
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yeah. except it'll be sitting off in the garage anyway, won't see it much

copper juniper
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if it was touch screen would make a cool kiosk

rocky trail
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it would. I'm still trying to figure out how to some sort of tablet kiosk that I'm happy with

lime crane
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If your motherboard has addressable RGB leds, I don't see why not.

calm nacelle
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I have an inwall GE zwave dimmer for a fan, and it adds as a fan control, but the fan is a bit oversized for the room, so we like it at about 15-20%, but it only goes by 33%. Is there an easy way to change that? Should I jsut change it to a dimmer instead of a fan control?

halcyon minnow
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I've a need to set up a small set of sensors at a remote location. I already have one of the Raspberry Pi keyboard computers at home, but as Raspberrys are hard to come by right now I'm trying to figure out which bit of hardware I can get away with in order to integrate a set of ESPHOME devices to record temperature. What do poeple who are starting fresh usually buy to host Home Assistant?

rocky trail
halcyon minnow
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Typically the amps drawn by a motor are quite a bit higher than a light. I don't know if the fans use TRIAC dimming like lights do, but I would doubt it. So since it is only connecting to a different set of coils for the different speeds(at a guess) OK I should probably go research before I pretend I know what I'm talking about. I've done a bunch of work with dimming lights, but not motors. I know at plants the VFD motors have a Drive which does some crazy stuff converting back and forth between AC and DC, but I sincerely doubt we're doing that in our home ceiling fans.

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" Every time the chain is pulled, the motor circuit changes to a predefined coil winding that causes the speed to vary."

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Looks like I had the right idea

rocky trail
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I have a GE fan switch as well, and mine only has the three speeds

halcyon minnow
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So yeah you'd need a variable speed drive to use that sort of dimmer on your fan.

rocky trail
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if yours has a pull chain as well you could try setting that to the middle speed and then the switch to the low or middle speed

calm nacelle
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Well, I bought a dimmer made for inductive loads (motors) and it definitely has 100 speed settings when hooked up to Vera. So yes, I am using the proper dimmer for a fan, and no, it does not only have 3 speeds

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it has worked for about 5 years with Vera home automation, and never had a problem, and it worked down to about 5% and 100% was way too high

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We use it daily in the summer. I've read up a bunch and other people have similar issues, with Caseta fan modules that have 10 when on any other controller, and 3 on HA

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Its literally a setting, percentage_step set on the entity, I can see it in developer tools, but I don't know how to change it

rancid pelican
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hello friends i am going to start my HA again but in the right way, before i had a raspberry but it was a bit slow in the cameras etc can anyone recommend me something better?

calm nacelle
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How many cameras?

rancid pelican
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6 cameras 😄

rocky trail
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Don't know which one you have, though.

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The LED on the switch will blink at one of three different speeds when you set it, to show you what it's set to.

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I haven't dug into the settings of the switch to see if it can do other things

calm nacelle
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like I said, on other home automation is works 1-100% in 1% increments, but on HA its 33% each

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I'll go ask in zwave, but its really a hardware setting in HA

rocky trail
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Like I said, I can set mine to 1-100 but it still only has 3 speeds.

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It's on a hubitat right now until I can migrate everything over.

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So maybe HA only does 33% because... it only has three speeds.

rancid pelican
rocky trail
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ugh hate that I can't post pictures here.

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Transform any home into a smart home with the Enbrighten Z-Wave Smart Fan Control. The in-wall fan control easily replaces any standard in-wall switch remotely controls a ceiling fan in your home and features a three-speed control system.

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you can set the "level" to anything you want but it only has three speeds.

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home assistant doing it in 33% increments is actually showing you that, where other systems don't

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says so right on the amazon page, too. "3 speed control, low, medium, and high"

rancid pelican
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is this nice for HA ?

cold moon
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$135 aint bad for that cpu and ram imo

gentle condor
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Does anyone know any good colour smart bulbs? I'm no expert on this smart home stuff but I have some Hue lights and a hub at the moment as well as a IKEA tradfri hub and want something compatible.

cold moon
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so hue and ikea are both zigbee

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you might look into moving those on to a zigbee mesh using zigbee2mqtt or zha

gentle condor
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Sorry I have no idea what any of that is?

cold moon
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yeah good things to google lol

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basically hue hub and ikea hubs are both creating a zigbee mesh with their devices

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so instead people (including me) decide to move off their hubs and create one big zigbee mesh with all our devices

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it's a much better solution and doesnt require you to "only buy shit that works with hue"

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you just need to buy something zigbee, ideally zigbee 3.0

gentle condor
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I've been looking for some new E14 fitting colour smart bulbs for my bedroom, similar to hue but they are soooo expensive. The hue would cost me £150 whereas the IKEA would cost me abt £45

gentle condor
cold moon
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nope

gentle condor
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So its like 1 hub for all?

cold moon
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for all zigbee specifically

gentle condor
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ok

cold moon
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if you wanted zwave stuff, you'd still need a zwave controller / hub (dont buy a zwave hub)

gentle condor
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is that like a stick thing?

cold moon
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yep

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zigbee uses "coordinators"

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first you should watch a video or two on "zha vs zigbee2mqtt"

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then once you decide on which of those you want to use to control your zigbee devices, then you pick your zigbee coordinator

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or do the googles w/e you prefer

gentle condor
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Yeh i had a look at them earlier. Do you have any recommendations for colour bulbs that would work?

cold moon
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as far as back to your original question with zigbee bulbs - hue is gold standard and ikea is next best thing

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would work with?

gentle condor
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Okay

cold moon
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zha? z2m? hue hub? ikea hub?

gentle condor
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What about the WiZ bulbs, are they any better than the IKEAs?

cold moon
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n0

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depending on the version they are bt only or wifi+bt

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and have significant delays according to another guy on here

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@rocky trail you're the guy who hates himself and bought wiz bulbs right

gentle condor
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So its IKEA if i want to save and Hue if i want to spend?

cold moon
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basically

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there are other options but for zigbee bulbs that's #1 then #2

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i went full retard with hue then moved off their bridge to using zigbee2mqtt to control them all

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shit works great

gentle condor
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Okay I was just worried as there seemed to be limited colour selection on the IKEAs but ig it would be ok

cold moon
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hue is gold standard especially their new high lumen shit but $$$$$$$$$

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i cant speak to the color such as CRI of rgbw bulbs

rocky trail
cold moon
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im not sure there is any good documentation regarding CRI with smart bulbs

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basically we just go on "what most people say they think they look like"

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i want to say that people have said that ikea bulbs color isnt great

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but idk

gentle condor
cold moon
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i have none

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you can search innr here and see what has been said

gentle condor
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ok thanks

cold moon
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there's usually the same convo that happened 100x depending on what you search

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maybe innr is mostly plugs tho.. idk

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think it's an eu brand

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across the pond bois

hollow orchid
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What’s the general consensus on the best smart blinds? I’m willing to pay for custom and I’m agnostic to the protocol (z wave, zigbee, etc.)

gentle condor
gentle condor
hollow orchid
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I have those in my current house, I’m not happy with them.

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And I want a custom fit with u channel light blockers on the side.

gentle condor
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Yeh they are basic but for what i use them for they get the job done

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but you have to buy their stupid hub

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and they're quite loud

gentle condor
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Like some say that they support homekit but some say siri shortcuts

cold moon
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every bulb you have in zha or z2m can be added to homekit

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unless you werent aware of that

gentle condor
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Oh right i didnt know

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thanks

cold moon
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yeah it's super nice

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you can add ANYTHING to homekit with home assistant

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ya you need to get off your hue hub and ikea hub and onto zha or z2m man

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combine those meshes

gentle condor
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Yeh ive only just started using home assistant recently and its such a game changer

cold moon
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it do be that way

gentle condor
cold moon
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no try only do

gentle condor
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Well im not the most tech literate with this stuff

cold moon
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then start getting learnt

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like you are now asking questions and googling things

gentle condor
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yeh

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its interesting

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Ive just bought 3 of the IKEA bulbs btw

hollow orchid
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I used Z2M for my ikea blinds

keen flame
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I finally got some Symphonik wifi speakers and get 'em hooked up. 🙂 What're some good, smart things to do with speakers and HA?

copper juniper
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welocome home fool

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Looking good as you exit

keen flame
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Ooh, I like that! I mean, not that exactly, but like... theme music!

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alright, gotta find a good "I'm home" song.

copper juniper
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many ideas

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barking dogs when someone presses door button or knocks

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or walks past your cams

keen flame
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No doorbell, the front door is inaccessible, and no cams yet. 😕

copper juniper
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make sure you can use em with frigate when you get there

keen flame
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But I like the welcome-home thing.

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Dunno what frigate is either.

copper juniper
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ai detection for cameras

keen flame
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Oh! I'll put that in the back of my mind. That's smart.

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I'll be building a house from the ground up but for the time being I'm in a rental and don't want to do major modifications.

copper juniper
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for best performace your need a coral ai device

keen flame
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I'm just building up little bits and pieces here to prepare.

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My robot vacuum destroyed my sofa weight sensors last night so I'll have to fix that up this week...

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For a good three days, Netflix would pause whenever I got up and resume when I sat back down 🙂

copper juniper
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i had my cams given to me; ot the best but functinal

keen flame
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What else can I do with speakers?

copper juniper
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scare people

keen flame
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I mean... I could scare my dog, but I like my dog.

copper juniper
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confuse your dog

keen flame
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Still like my dog.

copper juniper
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have it speak doggo key works

hollow orchid
keen flame
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I might still have some links.... one sec.

keen flame
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... I can not find a good "welcome home" song/sound.

hollow orchid
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Eye of the tiger?

copper juniper
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something that builds you up

keen flame
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I always hated that song.

copper juniper
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or makes you feel good

hollow orchid
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Also, you leave home?

keen flame
hollow orchid
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<confused noises>

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Gonna totally need a link for sleep pad.

keen flame
hollow orchid
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More a joke about what WFH has done to me.

keen flame
hollow orchid
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Well, thank you for spending all my money.

keen flame
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🙂 Happy to help

hollow orchid
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Yeah, I actually don’t leave home because I’m in a car brained area and it turns out getting a home and having a kid didn’t make me hate driving less.

copper juniper
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just get a cpap/bipap and it can do iit

hollow orchid
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So that’s been bad. Good news, moving somewhere where I can bike more.

keen flame
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Driving is the single most stressful thing in my life.

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Pretty much every time I go out I almost get hit. People drive really badly here.

copper juniper
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yeah; others are the issues usally

hollow orchid
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People drive well here, I just hate getting it out.

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I’ll walk an hour before I’ll drive 15 minutes.

keen flame
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I live in Mexico. There's no driving test required to get a license here.

copper juniper
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was in a pileup last year

hollow orchid
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I only wanna get it out if I’m going a long, long way.

copper juniper
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dang tail gaters

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had two of em hit me

keen flame
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ew

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Sorry

copper juniper
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i didn't hit anyone though

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bad driver in front of me suddenly stopped; they sent a police heli to search for the issue

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but since my reflex and spacing was good ; i stopped in time

hollow orchid
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Cars, they’re dangerous.

keen flame
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Cars aren't dangerous. The pendejos driving them are.

hollow orchid
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That we default to them for all transit is … not great!

copper juniper
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esp the people in them

hollow orchid
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Eh, theyre heavy and go fast. They’re inherently dangerous.

keen flame
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Without drivers they pretty much go nowhere.

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... for now.

hollow orchid
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Sure.

keen flame
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Ok, I need to figure out how to play an internet radio station in node red...

hollow orchid
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Pedantic, but correct.

copper juniper
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yeah; self driving cars gonna repo themselfs

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so don't miss your paynments

keen flame
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More speaker ideas that don't involve torturing my dog?

copper juniper
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no; apperantly not

keen flame
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Yeah, that's disappointing. And creepy.

copper juniper
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and yet you've come up with how many original ideas for it?

keen flame
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I've had it for an hour.

copper juniper
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so get thinking?

keen flame
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atm I'm trying to figure out how to play media on nodered

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oh, media_play is quite different from play_media. Good, that's clear.

hollow orchid
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Documentation isn’t node-red’s strong suit.

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Tbh, i wish I’d made some of my node red scripts python.

keen flame
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Well I've got a nice flow that plays volume appropriate music (random stations I like) when I get home and turns it off when I leave.

keen flame
copper juniper
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make button for dog to push so do cn talk to you?

keen flame
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She's communicative enough.

pearl nimbus
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Hi guys looking at getting an echo show 15... Is there a better alternative tablet I could use to be the ha hub?

calm nacelle
fluid zinc
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Does anyone know whether I can access the settings of a Unifi AP within HA?

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I want to control the AP's LED

rocky trail
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doesn't appear the unifi integration can do that

fluid zinc
hollow finch
stiff yarrow
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I got a LAN-computer with an Intel 10400 and 16GB ram that I want to use as a server when not gaming. Is Windows 11 Home ok for home assistant? any drawbacks?

gentle fossil
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Windows make a shite server, especially the consumer versions including windows 11

stiff yarrow
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Any specific reason? Besides the forced updates..I know it will be a compromise but some I can live with

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Or I just dual boot or get a separate gaming ssd for it

gentle fossil
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servers don't like to be dual booted, because obvious reasons

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besides troublesome hyperv installations you will run into trouble with discovery

stiff yarrow
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Im the only person in my home so downtime is not a problem. What solution would you recommend?

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Is ESXi a thing nowadays?

gentle fossil
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esxi might be overkill

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I'd do linux on the machine and windows in kvm+gpu passthrough for gaming

stiff yarrow
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Ok sounds interesting, got a distro to recommend?

gentle fossil
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debian, else fedora if you have a bit of linux experience

stiff yarrow
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very limited, Ive ran Ubuntu before but not sure if I call that experience

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Ive seen proxmox mentioned

gentle fossil
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proxmox is easy for most, you will have 2 vms then

stiff yarrow
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Proxmox is similar to ESXi?

gentle fossil
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yes

stiff yarrow
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Ok nice, how would you run HA, in its own VM?

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or through docker in debian? sorry for the maybe stupid questions 🙂

copper juniper
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can go either way

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both have good/bad things

stiff yarrow
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ok thanks, will try HAOS on proxmox first

copper juniper
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make sure you set it's cpu type to host

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so that it can use all your cpu functions

stiff yarrow
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will do!

rocky trail
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What are the downsides to container?

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I just set up proxmox and set up docker/portainer in an LXC container on that. I suppose passing through some USB stuff there might be tricky.

winged knoll
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Downsides... you have to back it up yourself

stiff yarrow
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I would like to log air and surface temperatures in my home, any recommendations?

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I prefer Pt100/RTD sensors but would like some advice on what to connect them to and how to get the data to HA

winged knoll
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ESPHome?

winged knoll
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Performance ... about the same as a Pi4

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In a pinch... sure

rocky haven
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PI's can't be paid for in Germany at the moment

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180$ for a Pi 4

placid oracle
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Tea kettles with memory

stiff yarrow
keen flame
# copper juniper welocome home fool

My "welcome home" v1 is working. 🙂 When I come home it starts playing a random station from a list I assigned at the correct volume, pauses when I leave and when the TV turns on, resumes when the TV stops for more than a few minutes. v2 will stop the music when I go to bed, start when I wake up, and maybe I can get it to stop when I'm on the phone.... Thanks again for your suggestion!

rocky trail
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All wiz bulbs returned. Such a shame, because they it was $250 for 36 bulbs

cold moon
rocky trail
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Not when I'm buying 30 of them

cold moon
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be a lot cooler if you did

rocky trail
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The really annoying part is the hardware seems great. Feels like this would be a really simple firmware fix.

cold moon
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probably

rocky trail
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I think I will move home assistant to a VM on this AIO. So I just need a bunch of zwave and zigbee repeaters to reach my meshes 😂

cold moon
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Prob best to get a zigbee PoE coordinator if it’s in a corner

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Basement etc

rocky trail
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Yeah, that's a good idea.

cold moon
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I know

mortal spruce
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Hey all. Looking for the best option in a video doorbell using HA, but MUST be wireless. Condo rules 🙄

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Curious the suggestions from the community.

cold moon
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by wireless you mean battery powered not wifi correct?

mortal spruce
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Meaning powered by batteries.

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No exterior cables of any kind.

agile moth
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hi, this might be a stupid question but I retrieved my xiaomi token and i found the IP and I made sure it can be found by miiocli. The question is, what do I do now? How do I use this information to add the device in my HA so I don't have to hit the Xiaomi servers to talk to the device?

modern phoenix
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hello, I have added an RFXtrx USB dongle and I can find it when setting up the integration.
However it does not find any devices (used the same dongle in my Previous corrupted HAOS so the device is working.), can I run any specific command to list USB devices to I can make sure it is in fact communicating correctly?

distant rune
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Does anyone know of a zigbee 4 gang light switch that also works as a router, not just an endpoint? I know that if it doesn't have a neutral, it's definitely an endpoint, but even many ones with neutral wires still only function as end points...

hollow orchid
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4 gang switch? I’ve never seen one.

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Why not just use four 1 gang zigbee switches?

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I use the GE en brighten. They’re router devices.

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Inovelli also has one. But it’s sold out atm.

slim vortex
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hello
what's fine intercom?

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In the camera section, they said to ask the question here.

outer knotBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
jovial verge
cold moon
jovial verge
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I mean without knowing jack shit, just get a doorbird, they're a mighty fine intercom

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But yeah people that refuse to be helped are the worst

slim vortex
winged knoll
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Please,both of you ... calm down

jovial verge
winged knoll
slim vortex
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what do you tell him

slim vortex
gentle fossil
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use scrypted and/or ffmpeg

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case closed

jovial verge
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Lol we're supposed to intuit from one word what someone wants and refusing to answer any questions? The only solution to trolls is to block them.

distant rune
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@hollow orchid I'm talking about a light switch. Can't put 4 of those on a wall together!

slim vortex
winged knoll
winged knoll
hollow orchid
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Super common configuration

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What size wall box do you have?

jovial verge
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Unless you have a 4 gang all with several hundred watt fixtures you'll be fine

shrewd gorge
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Hello. I'm looking for recommended smart switches (US) preferably with dimming capabilities. I'm cheap, so I'd say under $40 per switch is good.
A plus if it has a relay disconnect for smart bulbs.
Zigbee or Wifi preferred, though I'd assume Zigbee is the better way to go?

jovial verge
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Inovelli blue fit everything but your price range

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Wifi will often be cheaper but might come with terrible cloud

fringe crater
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Zooz ticks all the boxes if you're open to zwave. they have all the features for like $25. Zigbee switches I think inovelli is the only real good option, and those are $50 and out of stock for a long time.

jovial verge
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Yeah zooz is a good brand

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But the notification bar on the inovelli is pretty useful, nobody forgets to lock the door in my house haha

shrewd gorge
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Thanks! I'm just using WiFi right now as I'm just starting out (bought Kasa Dimming switches, but I don't really like them).

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What's a good z-wave adapter?

jovial verge
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zooz again has a pretty good one now that they updated the firmware

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Just make sure you have a USB extension cable

fringe crater
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If you get the zooz one it will help you reach the shipping threshold 😛

shrewd gorge
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Something like the "Zooz 800 Series Z-Wave Long Range S2 USB"?

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What switch models do you recommend, or any is good?

jovial verge
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I love the combo switches for bathroom light + fan

fringe crater
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Any of the Zen7x. They have two very similar dimmers, so see which one more meets your usecase.

shrewd gorge
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Great, thanks!

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One more question... Where's a good place to shop for Zooz? Amazon seems a little pricey.

fringe crater
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They have sales pretty frequently, probably once every month or two. Switches will come down from like $28 to $22 or so. At least that's what I remember from a year ago, haven't shopped lately.

hollow orchid
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Be aware that fan controllers are dependent on the wiring for ceiling fans.

jovial verge
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Inovelli made the best ceiling fan controller that you can't get, they claim a new one is on the way tho

hollow orchid
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If you don't have either two 14/2 or one 14/3 wire going to your switch, you will need an adapter in the fan that's compatible with the wall switch.

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Some more basic installations don't break out the fan power at the wall box, which makes installing smarts a harder process.

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Doable, just harder

jovial verge
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Yeah nowdays it's hard to even buy a fan that doesn't have it's own RF controller

shrewd gorge
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Going back to z-wave... Is that something I should invest in? I've heard that it won't be very big in the future.

jovial verge
fringe crater
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I know the google/matter fans say the moment they actually release something it will instantly crush and obsolete every other product and technology... but I have no interest in that stuff personally, and happy to keep using zwave.
future is hard to predict.

jovial verge
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Yeah z-wave isn't going to go away, if anything the stronger competition from matter/thread will bring down prices hopefully

shrewd gorge
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Got it. And yes, z-wave will always work, but if in the future z-wave is phased out, I may be forced to switch everything over to something else to keep things less complicated.

jovial verge
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There is no reason to not diversify with HA really

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I've got zigbee switches controlling z-wave shades with basically zero lag

shrewd gorge
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Good point.

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How is the lag on the zooz switches? Like what's the delay after pressing the switch until the power is turned on?

hollow orchid
jovial verge
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I just always avoided buying those fans haha

fringe crater
shrewd gorge
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Okay. The Kasa dimmer switch I have takes a couple seconds which is annoying. I assume this is due to the double press feature, and disabling that doesn't help.

Sounds like disabling the double tap on Zooz speeds it up?

jovial verge
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Yeah it's not that much lag for a single press on any zwave switch I've used, even with scenes enabled

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Just automate with motion sensors and you won't even be touching the switches anyways haha

fringe crater
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It's certainly much faster than a couple seconds. Some of that might be the "fade-in" where it ramps in, which you can also disable.

shrewd gorge
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Good to hear. I may be investing in some Zooz it sounds like 😄

jovial verge
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Yeah some lights don't respond to dim levels below 20-50% so the lag appears to be longer

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Which you can generally configure minimum dim level

rocky trail
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Too bad my power is out.

rocky trail
jovial verge
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Yeah I've got a fixture that doesn't turn on till 50% and it'll look like it's just super delayed with a stock switch setting

rocky trail
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I have gen 1 hues. Anyone know if the new ones dim lower?

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They don't get all that dim

daring sail
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looking for a smart speed controller for an inline fan 40w

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anyone know of such an animal?

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wondering if an inkbird fan works with home assistant?

gloomy kiln
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Hi so I bought a tuta ic clamp sensor and connected it to my power but literally minutes later it started burning and smoking even though it was still on any reason for this? I have already asked for a refund from the store I bought it from anything else I can do?

cold moon
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welcome to tuya

daring sail
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tuya you say

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ah the old fire

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those power things really need to be clamps, ive seen a sonoff one bust into flames too

daring sail
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looking at the inkbird integration it doesnt seem to have fan

keen flame
#

I want to mount a NAS drive in HAOS. I found a couple tutorials but their mount commands didn't work. Does anyone know how to mount and also include the domain, username, and password info?

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I tried this from one tutorial but it just says "Permission denied": mount -t cifs -o vers=3.0,noserverino,username=xxx,password=xxx,domain=workgroup //192.168.100.14/Media /media/NAS_Media

rocky trail
#

So... wow the new Hues get a lot dimmer than the first gens.

cold moon
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the rgbw high lumen?

rocky trail
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I guess? BR30 rgbw 85w

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2pk for $100 at best buy. 1pk 65w BR30 was like $65 at home depot.

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Ah actually only $56

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But still, no reason I guess.

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Wonder how the power usage differs at equivalent brightness

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I guess I'll slowly replace all my bulbs. Kinda tempted to go just white ambiance but color is fun

cold moon
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That’s so much money

rocky trail
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Yeah

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I'll wait for deals and stuff

cold moon
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They just had a deal

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Buy 2 get one free on hue website

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Prob the best that’s gonna exist

rocky trail
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Have some best buy offers on some credit cards

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Though that barely covers sales tax.

rocky trail
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If I counted right, 32 BR30 bulbs in the house. Oof.

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wow the color is so much better on these too

cold moon
rocky trail
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they're big and ugly and don't fit where normal wall switches do

cold moon
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They are

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But you can get wall plate adapters if you’re so inclined

rocky trail
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I can, but I can also have a regular wall switch that controls them

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with a tiny little delay

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so it's fine

cold moon
#

Ya

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Inovelli blue zigbee ones

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They’re only $50 each

rocky trail
#

yeah those too. I have a few lutron connected bulb remotes right now

cold moon
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Eww

rocky trail
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they talk directly to the bulbs but I wanna move away from all that stuff

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that's also the last time I posted there 😂

lime crane
rocky trail
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yeah they're just expensive and backordered

#

can you bind them directly the to bulbs if the bulbs are also bound to home assistant

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(lol)

lime crane
#

I'm describing mqtt programming with a server.

rocky trail
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I mean, can you use the switch to control them without going through home assistant, some sort of group association thing? or is that just z-wave?

cold moon
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You can bind with zigbee yes

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It’s their version of direct association that zwave has

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Endpoints blah blah

lime crane
rocky trail
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ok, that's fine. I'll stick with the z-waves then, I'm sure they'll be fine too, and cheaper

cold moon
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You don’t need an mqtt server or mqtt at all to bind zigbee devices

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To answer your initial question

rocky trail
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right. also I use ZHA not z2m

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for the moment anyway

cold moon
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It wouldn’t matter either way

lime crane
cold moon
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Z2m just programs it

cold moon
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You’re just confused dude

rocky trail
#

I mean, that's how the lutron connected bulb remote works

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but the bulbs themselves can only be connected to the remote or home assistant

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not both

cold moon
#

Hass can still control them when bound

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But the bindings will work regardless

rocky trail
#

that's okay, this will all be fine with zooz switches and hue bulbs

lime crane
#

Still, the specific logic you want likely won't be available from the dimmer/switch, and will require a server to administer the logic.

cold moon
#

Like you can’t override zigbee binding with hass to only work unless hass is down

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Once bound they just do it

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So depending on automations wanted it’s kind of pointless

rocky trail
#

yeah

cold moon
#

And there’s limitations which are bullshit

rocky trail
#

I mean, really all I want the wall switches to do is turn lights on and off

cold moon
#

Like you can’t bind a bulb to a door/window sensor

rocky trail
#

any other automation stuff will be done other ways

cold moon
#

For something like a coat closet

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Which is fuckin dumb

rocky trail
#

that is dumb

cold moon
rocky trail
#

yeah. would be nice to be able to turn them on if hass is down but not the end of the world if not

lime crane
#

it seems unreasonable to not allow binding between a window/door sensor and a light.
However it does seem unreasonable to expect dynamic behavior from a simple binding system.

cold moon
#

Regarding the latter it isn’t an expectation I’m pointing out its limitations

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And regarding the former, yep

lime crane
#

I'm having trouble binding anything at all now that I'm looking at the zigbee2mqtt tab

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experiments

cold moon
#

Each thing has to support the same cluster and endpoint I think

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I gave up after realizing the limitations and what I wanted

lime crane
#

Cool cool, the map is working

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I can see which devices are routers

rocky trail
#

lol the physics on the ZHA visualization is so funny

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whoever it was that said first gen hues had routing issues was right too. all red or even gray lines on the map

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new bulb has a bunch of green

rocky trail
#

definitely worth replacing these. ugh. 😂

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part of me just wants to get the pain out of the way. in another discord that's an expensive hobby and the motto is "buy once, cry once"

cold moon
#

Sell the voron

rocky trail
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nah. will sell the first gen hues though

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and the lutron connected bulb remotes. they go for a bit each actually

cold moon
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Don’t you put that evil on someone else

rocky trail
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I'll be clear that they're first gen

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if they want them, that's on them

rocky trail
#

I do have a bunch of stuff to get rid of right now though, so that'll make the pain slightly less

daring sail
#

hey all

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looking for a controlable inline fan, anyone got any experience of this?

calm nacelle
#

like a duct fan?

jovial verge
daring sail
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a 6"duct fan

jovial verge
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Like in a bathroom?

daring sail
#

ive been looking at a INKBIRD IVC-001W

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not sure if the inkbird integration will run it

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its for an HVAC system

calm nacelle
jovial verge
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So just on-off not speed controlled?

daring sail
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needs to be speed controlled

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ive got 2 noctuas with pwm on it, they dont have enough grunt

calm nacelle
#

My method is just on off, but that inkbird looks great, but I do not have experience with something like that

jovial verge
#

Problem with dimmers on fans is the starting load

calm nacelle
#

Need to ensure they are inductive and not resistice load only for fans

daring sail
#

think that inkbird is 24v pwm

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cant be full throttle

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will turn the extraction duct in to an airplane window lol

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appears ill need to buy it and find out :/

calm nacelle
#

I wouldn't bet on the inkbird integration

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THe supported devices are all sensors, not control

daring sail
#

i was thinking that with no support

calm nacelle
#

Not saying you couldn't get it to work, as the sensors might come up

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but it would probably be some custom work done

daring sail
#

theres another system AC infinity seems to have better prospects

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there must be something that will work out of the box even if its just a dumb speed controller

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pretty sure MODBUS will control the speed of a motor

calm nacelle
#

I was about to recommend them, seems some have the commands, just would still be work not out of the box. I bought a GE Enlighten Fan switch, which if paired with an Aoetec Multi Sensor, you could control a fan, gives 3 speeds, but would be just a dumb fan on a speed control. I have an AC Inifinity, but not the Controller 69 to enable BT and Wifi

daring sail
#

was hoping for a linear curve so i can go down to 30m3h

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with a 3 speed fellow the bottom speed it 100 ish on a 6" fan

calm nacelle
#

yes, and the ACINifinity I think are 10 speed

daring sail
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yeah i found that looks kind of expencive for that souloution n its not garenteed to work

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yeah 10 speed is what im after

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be nice to be able to control that speed from a script

calm nacelle
#

others might have suggestions later, I agree, almost want to buy that ACinfinity controller and see if I could make an integration that works, since most of the heavy lifting was already done. but it would take a few weeks for me at least. but looks like that link i posted has a script, it might work if you are comfortable with scripting

daring sail
#

ive done a little

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from what i can tell these are 24v pwm motors

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10v mabe

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be tricky to do that on a d1 mini

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the d1 mini tops out the frequency and wont go full fan speed

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i have 12v noctuas on a d1 mini its not an ideal solution

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anyway id better be gone BBL

versed badge
#

Hello,
I was woundering which brand of Air Conditioner is integrateable with home assistant out of the box?
Can somebody help me here?

jovial verge
versed badge
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House Wall mounted

oak obsidian
#

I don't know if it's the good sub to ask : is the schematic of the skyconnect dongle available ?

jovial verge
cold moon
#

Is that just 433mhz like people use an sdr dongle for?

jovial verge
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SDR dongles are usually receive only

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unless you pay much much more

cold moon
#

And are you saying various window units are just spitting out this info?

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Oh

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Yea you need control

jovial verge
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If they have a remote of any kind this can learn it

cold moon
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I have a Toshiba portable AC window unit type deal that I need to add to hass

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Wasn’t sure what I’d use

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So the bridge just imitates a remote and then has hass integration exposing that functionality?

jovial verge
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You'll really need to pair it with a temp sensor to know it's state

jovial verge
cold moon
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What do you mean pair it with a temp sensor

jovial verge
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Like just stick a temp sensor in the room near it

cold moon
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Just have one in that room?

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Ya I have one

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Cool I’ll look into it

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I tried the Midea AC hacs integration before and I guess it isn’t a model that works

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Couldn’t get it to work with my Toshiba account

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I’d rather not go their cloud route anyways

jovial verge
#

If you want to be extra you can use a power monitoring outlet to guess the state it's in

cold moon
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Lol

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This has a big 10 gauge cord on it and pulls 1500W I think. No smart plug could handle that

jovial verge
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You'd need inductive circuit monitoring then

cold moon
#

Why do I need to guess state if I’m already sending button presses?

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Cuz you can’t expect them to always take?

jovial verge
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It's just if you wanna be extra lol

cold moon
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Oh

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I thought only white girls who go to Starbucks say extra

cold moon
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i think i'm going to go this route instead

lime crane
# versed badge House Wall mounted

So, in theory, it should be a matter of a simple relay, but you MUST make certain that you respect safety design such that your unit can turn off for safety.

#

There are multiple ways to go about it

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polling: you monitor temperature with the external sensors, and you turn the relay on/off as needed.
state_chase: You tell the unit what temperature to target, and it manages itself.

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Personally, I would expect the unit to be such that:

AC <-> Safety <-> Controller

So you'd be inserting a relay here:

AC <-> Safety <-> Controller
               |
              Relay
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Ideally however, the better design would likely be, but that's harder.

AC <-> Safety <-> Controller
                     |
                 ZigBee, Communicate Temperature, on/off
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googles zigbee thermostats

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My thinking is that it might be easiest, to replace the controller entirely, assuming it doesn't handle your safety cutoff.

gusty sequoia
#

There do exist Z-Wave thermostats, at least, I use one for our central AC/heat; there's probably something ZigBee out there but that's always wild west for compatibility so do your research of course. I've also used a smart plug, temperature sensor, and the generic thermostat integration with a dumb window AC unit that really only does on/off. I know less about controlling mini-split style devices which sit in between those extremes, especially when it comes to discerning their setpoint (as mentioned, you can use IR blasters to send commands, but not really to read state from the unit).

visual lintel
#

I am looking for cheap Zigbee capable dimmable LEDs in Germany/EU.
I don't really need fancy color changing ones. However a few options in terms of color temperature (or changeable temperature) would be nice as they will be used around the house (from bed room to work space and everything in between)

loud garnet
#

Sorry if already been asked, anyone have recommendations for the "best" Australian power monitors wall-plugs?

"Best" = cost effective/cheap, reliable, easy to configure, preferably local shop.

Found these guys, seem to be one of the better options maybe?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001670435059.html

winged knoll
#

Tasmota ... those should be pretty solid

midnight grotto
#

Anyone know if the Skyconnect are gonna support Matter/thread in a docker install?

winged knoll
mellow sinew
#

Feel like I just wasted a shit ton of money- got some tp-link smart switches and plugs and lights to use in my van for the smart features but they won’t use a lan connection, requires internet

#

So fucking stupid

fringe crater
#

all mine work locally, what is not working specifically with yours?

mellow sinew
#

There’s no option to even do it locally, it requires an outbound wifi connection

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I have a lan router in my van with its own wifi for it to connect to, but when I go to set up any device it just says “wifi required”

fringe crater
#

If you provision via the app, it might complain if it doesn't see internet access during the provisioning, I don't recall exactly. There's also a command line tool you can use to provision directly without using a kasa app, I never used it myself though. That would not require any outside access. See intro paragraph here: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/tplink/

But once provisioned they work fine locally without any internet access.

mellow sinew
#

What do you mean by provision

fringe crater
#

initial setup

mellow sinew
#

Yeah I can’t even get it into the Kasa app before getting to HA

fringe crater
#

yeah they are not my favorite setup process, but they should work once you get past first setup

mellow sinew
#

I can’t provisión because despite being on my local network it stops me without internet access

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So I need to somehow find a network to do it all on first? Sheesh

fringe crater
#

try the python-kasa method then, and just skip the app entirely

mellow sinew
#

All right. That’ll be far off for me. Thanks for the help

fringe crater
#

good luck

mellow sinew
#

Okay I figured it out, slightly convoluted in the directions but each device provided its own wifi network I had to connect. My own error thanks for the assist

hearty drift
#

Hi,

I'm from the UK and I'm looking for a device to allow me to control some RF433 devices (a kitchen extractor fan, and a two additional extractor fans).

I have existing remote controls for these things that work, but I'd like to integrate that with the rest of my home system.

I run HassOS as a KVM VM on an Intel NUC, and I have a spare USB port.

Anyone got any recommendations on devices to add RF433 to this setup, and what the process is to teach to send the same things the existing remote controls do. I have tested that using the remote in the same location as the NUC does control the devices.

vocal depot
#

how frequently do you guys have to re pair your zwave devices?

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I have two devices that seem to need to be removed and re added every few months.

fringe crater
#

never for me

vocal depot
#

My garage door opener, and the lock on my back door. 90% of devices don't have this issue.

#

I guess I should have asked in the zwave thread.

#

thank you for answering

rocky trail
#

I'd just replace those devices.

frosty field
#

Anyone in SoCal willing to help me "Tazmotize" 3 Sengled bulbs and a Shelly Plus 1?

#

I bought a 4 pack of Sengled WB4s on eBay, thinking I could get one of my friends to help me. They're all too busy...

#

I broke one of the bulbs. Ripped out the mains, quite by accident.

#

As for the Shelly, it'll also need soldering. Broke the plastic housing around the program points.

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I'll ask on the tasmota discord also.

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I am willing to pay someone for the assistance.

#

I have great difficulty soldering, as my hands shake to much.

lime crane
#

Quick question, does binding make zigbee devices unavailable to the server otherwise?

#

I mean, take them off the general network?

lime crane
lime crane
frosty field
#

Also, I've never successfully soldered before. Using my devices as the "Guinea pigs" is asking for trouble.

#

I want to fix them, not ruin them permanently.

cold moon
frosty field
#

Hmm. Perhaps. I've seen a few of his videos.

cold moon
#

Any reason you didn’t just buy bulbs with tasmota/wled/esphome?

frosty field
#

Didn't know he was in SoCal.

cold moon
#

Athom sells a few different types

cold moon
frosty field
#

Trying to save a buck. (Which totally backfired).

cold moon
#

It be like that

frosty field
#

I don't buy from AliExpress as a general rule.

lime crane
cold moon
#

that's a bad rule

frosty field
#

Like to buy local.

cold moon
#

tons of stuff is just resold at a huge markup on amazon from alie

lime crane
#

Aliexpress is basically a more direct line to factory runs of the products you buy anywhere else..

frosty field
#

If it's not on eBay or Amazon...

cold moon
#

you could flash that to tasmota or find one with it already on it

frosty field
#

Thanks SHS!

lime crane
# frosty field Thanks SHS!

I'm willing to guide you through soldering here in discord.
You can share a camera feed on a bench, and I'll direct you.

cold moon
#

here is their direct website where you can choose to ship from us or china

lime crane
#

I respect your hands shaking, but I don't know how much or if that's actually preventative here.

frosty field
#

The curiosity in me still wants to try and use the items I have.

cold moon
#

it is what it is, much better to practice soldering on led strips or something

frosty field
#

Future purchases will probably be preflashed.

lime crane
cold moon
#

you can always set them aside and deal with it when you feel more comfortable

#

i've done that with shit that sat in a drawer for a year then finally i got it out

#

i have my old mechanical keyboard to fix with the new keys waiting to be soldered but i just havent felt like fucking with it in like 2 years lmao

frosty field
#

Probably cheaper to hire someone to solder than to buy a good soldering iron.

cold moon
#

nah i use a $15 china special

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i got a $50 one for xmas but havent used it yet

lime crane
#

depends on the size of the components you're working on, actually

frosty field
#

Thanks for the ideas.

lime crane
#

BIG wires, yes, you'll need more heat.
small components? you want finer control of temperature, or just be faster.

#

Actually, funnily, with tiny components, you need higher temperature on smaller tips, because they lose so much heat quickly.

#

there's a curve to consider

frosty field
#

I'm still going to contact a few old friends I haven't spoken to in a while to see if they are willing to help.

lime crane
#

The big soldering tips are:

  • roughing the pads to remove corrosion and give solder surface area to stick
  • using flux to help prevent corrosion and help solder wick into the surface roughness
  • using the right temperatures, for reasonable amounts of time, not burning components
nimble ginkgo
#

For smart nest learning thermostat when i set the temperature through automation it inevitably changes "smartly". Is there a mode or method to make it hold the temperature set by HA?

lime crane
nimble ginkgo
#

the nest thermostat changes temperature based on it's learnings over time

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that's one of its selling points, however it isn't great when you're trying to automate the temperature settings

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i think i need to use Eco mode

lime crane
jovial verge
valid frigate
#

so just got a notification that a second dual tpu was sent, having already secured the b+m key does anyone want to cover cost of dual tpu and adaptor to secure it uk?

rocky trail
#

Anyone know if the m.2 ones work with an m.2 to USB adapter?

#

I have no m.2 slot to use.

#

I have a pcie ordered but ETA July

#

Looking at the aqara roller shade driver e1. Says it only works with beaded cords but has adapters for different sizes. Anyone know if/think it would be possible to 3d print an adapter for an unbeaded rope pull?

rocky trail
#

guess I'll try one

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hm lots of knockoffs on aliexpress, can't find any US site actually selling these

edgy fog
#

Can you use that to open and close the slats, instead of pulling the shade up?

rocky trail
#

If it's a loop pull, I don't see why not.

edgy fog
#

It's 2 cords, but I guess I could make a loop of them

rocky trail
#

I just don't know what to buy here since the Aqara one doesn't seem available.

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ah the aliexpress ones aren't cheap, I should know better than to trust the first price I see. that's just the gateways

nimble ginkgo
rocky trail
#

yeah I have nest with learning off, too. if I was doing it again I probably wouldn't go with it but I got it a while back

jovial verge
rocky trail
jovial verge
#

Does anybody make a version of those blinds motors for rolling bamboo shades? I'd need something that could wind up the cord like a reel

fiery raptor
#

anyone have a recommendation for basic temperature and occupancy sensors?

jovial verge
#

Or ikea in a pinch

unreal bane
#

Hi is there are some hardware comparison without "app" comparison? Mostly hardware is badly rated because the app is just bad. I use home assistant so I don't care.
Mostly I'm interested in two device. Hama Thermostat and Rollei thermostat. Try to figure out which of the device works better with ZigBee and which is more silently.

unreal bane
#

I mean the TV02 exposes more. But I think it doesn't matter because you control it over homeassistant.

mellow sinew
#

Does anyone know if there’s something that is basically a rocker switch panel I could use to connect 12v loads into?

warped widget
#

Not sure what channel this belongs in - but what would be the best way to identify whether my work laptop is on the local network for presence tracking? Please note, I can't use the ping integration as the VPN I use for work rejects local ping packets. Is my only real option the router integration?

rocky trail
#

Controls our fireplace

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it's a remotec zfm-80. old thing.

#

not sure what I'll do if it goes

storm trellis
#

Is there a list of the best devices that people are using?

Been a while since I've added anything to my home and curious what people are using for bulbs / wall outlets

#

Looking for either wifi (tuyaconvert) or ZigBee devices

rocky trail
#

zigbee -> hue bulbs but $$

storm trellis
#

Hmm was hoping things changed over the years, have a bunch of Sengled which seem good for the $$

fiery raptor
rocky trail
dim crystal
#

hi there

#

I'm trying to connect a Shelly 1 to my pool pump to automate it and I think this is now the 2nd Shelly that's died. I'm connecting it to a contactor which then goes out to the pool pump

#

Any ideas why this would be happening?

winged knoll
glad lion
#

oops sorry. ok ill try to delete and ask there

dim crystal
winged knoll
#

No

#

That's "at" the deleted post

#

For you... you need to tell people about your pump

dim crystal
#

It's a 750W pool pump, I'm not sure what other details you need?

winged knoll
#

Details of how it's all wired up I'm sure will help people help you

dim crystal
#

I'm trying to do a quick wiring diagram now

shadow heron
#

Hi all, EU people: Does anyone have Shelly Plug S on hand? How snug fit is the Shelly Plug S and CEE 7/16 plug (aka the EU cable without grounding)

lime pike
#

Hello. I have 2 wyze v3 camera connected to my home assistant. When it was only one camera...all good. Now that i have two, i notice that one of them sonetimes (once a day) disconnects and i meed to reconnect them through the docker wyze bridge. When the canera disconnects, also the frigate events wont be available...

How can i solve this problem?

near oak
#

Is there a off the shelf wireless (Wi-Fi, Z-wave, or Zigbee) temporary sensor with a rechargeable battery?

winged knoll
#

Temporary sensor?

#

Do you mean temperature?

near oak
#

Yeah, and I just found out LIR2032 is a thing. I have 8 Xiaomi sensors I can put those in. Problem solved.

rocky trail
#

Wow, that's nice. I should get some of those.

#

(the batteries, not necessarily those sensors)

near oak
#

I’m curious if they work well, but they are not much more than the regular CR2032 and my sensors eat those in like 6 months

#

Along the same lines, is there a good Zigbee repeater? I’ve had problems with range.

winged knoll
#

You have mesh issues then... mine are good for over a year

#

#zigbee-archived can help with Zigbee routers, if you tell them the country you're in

abstract coral
#

I asked in the lobby but I assume it was the wrong place, apologies for the lack of etiquette!!
I'm running into the problem of having to insist a guest download an app or visit a webpage. Is anyone solving this any other way; touch screen, old phones as interfaces or something to ease the convienace of granting light or heating control to a guest.

hearty marsh
#

Any suggestions for a cheap entry level nas? Looks like buying some old second hand workstation PCs could work but I'm concerned about power usage and general ability to stream content.

golden thorn
#

You can buy a more recent (U)SFF mini or tower PC. They can use from 10w to 20w if you pick the right one. How much space do you need/want?

hearty marsh
#

Nothing too crazy. Just room for 2 HDDs

#

3.5"

#

I'll likely do 2x10-16TB

#

I figure this should last for quite some time.

hearty marsh
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Oh wow, these prices are great lol

golden thorn
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Nothing specific, no. I currently use a ESPRIMO E720 (G3250) purely as backup location (PBS and so on). Mine uses about 18W on average (15W~ idle) with one disk (well, SSD + HDD) but I'm sure you can get something much more efficient

hearty marsh
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Oh cool

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These prices seem very fair. I got my m910q w/ 16gb ram for about the same

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Looks like I'd be getting about the same PC in a different form factor

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Might run pbs instead of truenas too

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I'm finding stuff without a hdd for like $50. I need to look into power usage but this looks like a steal

jagged crypt
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I have a lenovo tiny thinkcenter m900 with i5-6500, 16gigs ram, and 256 nvme ssd, 15watts idle running HA in a VM and another VM running a dhcp/dns tool.

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peaks at 30-40watts on power up, or briefly when i run backups.

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60watt psu

hearty marsh
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Runs great

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I want to put jellyfin in a VM but I'm not too sure how well a htpc will work in a LXC

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I have pci passthrough that can leverage a video card for transcoding or whatever

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So maybe

jagged crypt
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i have usb passthrough for a sonoff-e stick

hearty marsh
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i do the same w/ a zwave stick

near oak
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Any write ups on using a POE esp32 board with esphome?

lime crane
patent field
winged knoll
patent field
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oh, thank you @winged knoll

daring sail
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anyone know of a decent fan speed controller for HA

near oak
spark tendon
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Hey. Big challenge. I have a raspberry pi 3b at a remote location. It suddenly stopped when I updated to OS 9.5. I have a friend that can go in and restart the Rasp, it is then up and running for approx 1 hour then I can not access again. During this time I saw that everything seemed OK except the Z wave addon, that was not running, could not restart it either. Anybody have a clue what to do? Hope I explain it and posted it in the right place? If not point me in the right direction. THX

scarlet badger
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Hello I do have issue with Bluetooth audio. With Linux ketnel 5.15, my bluetooth is connectin OK, but no avilable output: Attempting to connect to B1:29:34:2B:62:53
[CHG] Device B1:29:34:2B:62:53 Connected: yes
[NEW] Endpoint /org/bluez/hci0/dev_B1_29_34_2B_62_53/sep1
[NEW] Endpoint /org/bluez/hci0/dev_B1_29_34_2B_62_53/sep2
[NEW] Transport /org/bluez/hci0/dev_B1_29_34_2B_62_53/sep1/fd3
[CHG] Transport /org/bluez/hci0/dev_B1_29_34_2B_62_53/sep1/fd3 State: active
Connection successful

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other spikers works fine, connecting from Andorid Windows works fine

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[core-ssh ~]$ amixer
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 65536
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 49152 [75%] [on]
Front Right: Playback 49152 [75%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Capture 0 - 65536
Front Left: Capture 65536 [100%] [on]
Front Right: Capture 65536 [100%] [on]

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aplay -l
aplay: device_list:275: no soundcards found...

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OS Version: Home Assistant OS 9.5
Home Assistant Core: 2023.3.1

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bluetoothctl version 5.55 and same with 5.56

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ha sound info:

outer knotBOT
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@scarlet badger I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

outer knotBOT
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@scarlet badger I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

lime crane
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For reference, I'm currently building a 146TB machine.

hearty marsh
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At least for a handful of years and then I can do a more incremental upgrade instead of dropping a bunch of cash at once.

lime crane
hearty marsh
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in what sense?

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parity of what?

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i plan to do mirrored drives if that's what you're after

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im looking at truenas to run the show

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right now i have automated and managed backups for proxmox VMs/LXCs, HA, and currently working on an rsync script to backup my desktop PC

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I do need to read up on zfs

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There seems to be enough buzz about it that it might be a better choice than ext4

jagged crypt
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different scales involved in this discussion

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mirrored two disks vs 146tb array

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requires different mindsets

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(The case is so large, because i also have a spare 6x6tb raidz2 for playing around/testing in the box at the same time)

slender ermine
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Hi there, I just started or rather want to start with home assistant, but I can`t flash my ssd, neither a sd card with the URL link. I always get a big error . Am I doing something wrong?

fringe crater
hearty marsh
jagged crypt
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are you looking for a case to hold two drives + motherboard? are you looking for a stand alone nas, etc? NAS can mean a number of slightly different things

hearty marsh
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yes, 2 drives + mobo (and maybe an old GPU for transcoding video)

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i was going to have it host backups and media

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truenas + jellyfin (or something else) + samba + backups via a few methods (mostly just over ssh)

tacit burrow
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I got an old el-cheapo HP for my NAS. Seems to be working fine. 5 drives, plus ssd for the system drive

hearty marsh
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seems like a good sprice

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~$100 for a system that is ready to go minus the storage drives

tacit burrow
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Not sure there's room for two drives in there, is there?

hearty marsh
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has room for 2x3.5

tacit burrow
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Coo

hearty marsh
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i confirmed with the datasheets

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and other stuff

tacit burrow
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I really like sff machines; I have a couple of lenovo thinkcentre for my proxmox hosts

hearty marsh
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has room for a GPU too

tacit burrow
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Seems like a good box

hearty marsh
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i could put it an old GPU if transcoding becomes an issue

hearty marsh
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m910q doing all the work

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it's great

tacit burrow
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Yup, I have two of 'em. One for "production" (HA, opnsense, plus a few tools); and one for "non prod" (runs linux/mac/windows VMs as needed, plus whatever I'm playing with, plus being a standby for prod).

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I haven't been brave enough to experiment with nas-backed stuff on the main proxmox yet, but I use it as a local target for time-machine backups, proxmox backups, etc.

hearty marsh
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from what im reading it makes sense to install things like truenas on bare metal

tacit burrow
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Yes, mine is on bare metal.

hearty marsh
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im just going to setup an rsync script for bare metal OS installs

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for backups

tacit burrow
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I meant using the NAS as storage for the Vms

hearty marsh
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that way, whatever hardware i migrate or change to, it should be easy to get up and running again

tacit burrow
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I backup the truenas config, but happy to reinstall if that is required, since it's got very little config

hearty marsh
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any suggestions for decent cheap storage?

jagged crypt
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i found it far easier to just ensure that my clients could decode anything i sent them, 4k sticks are cheap and accept a wide variety of media

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(with plex)

hearty marsh
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or is that an old problem and no longer an issue?

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3 streams at max

jagged crypt
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$25-$40 gets you a roku/fire stick with 4k decoding

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do you actually plan on having it host 3 streams simultaneously?

hearty marsh
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no, that's max

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usually it will be 1

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sometimes 2

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rarely 3

jagged crypt
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well if you are capacity planning, that means 3

hearty marsh
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the main streamers will be chromecast w/ google tv

jagged crypt
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if you are being cheap that means 1, and 2 people have to wait

hearty marsh
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the 3rd being an older chromecast

jagged crypt
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everything you've stated seems to be that you are trying to be cheap and you have lots of spare time to get it all working. If this is true, than yeah, a small SFF box is older cpu is fine. I used to run plex on an i5-3570 and would do realtime transcoding for some older clients without issue (1080 src>dst, usually 265->264).

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I didn't transcode more than one at a time. If jellyfin allows you to transcode and cache, then you can do that perhaps.

hearty marsh
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I'd be going for one of the nvidia cards most likely

jagged crypt
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so like the GTX960, made in 2015?

hearty marsh
hearty marsh
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it might not be worth it

jagged crypt
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i was being polite....

hearty marsh
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but im going to at least explore the option

jagged crypt
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but the i5-3570 example above is a true use case 🙂

hearty marsh
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that's good to hear tho

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since i'm on a i5-6500

jagged crypt
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so starting with the sff and cpu and evaluating the cost of a replacement to the chromecast vs time in the server

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i just had to look it up, since my current plex is a 5950x

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a media server (plex, jellyfin, etc) has almost zero cpu usage when streaming media that it's not transcoding (which also means lower power)

hearty marsh
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good to hear

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is there a big penalty to running jellyfin on a remote machine?

jagged crypt
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well streaming media is just sending a file, it's a slow file copy....

hearty marsh
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in other words truenas + media storage on one server

jagged crypt
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I have no experience with jellyfin, so not sure

hearty marsh
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jellyfin in a LXC on another

jagged crypt
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so jellyfin will read from a network storage, and send to a media consumer.

hearty marsh
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i'd really like to run truenas in a container but that just seems bad the more i read about it

jagged crypt
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so again, just copying files

hearty marsh
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yeah...simple stuff

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it should be fine 🙂

tacit burrow
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I would have preferred to run truenas in a container, but I needed a box with more disks anyway, so running it native is not too big a deal (for me). Plus presumably having direct access to the HBA and NICs might be a little more efficient. Don't want to add any risks when using ZFS.

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My truenas box rarely gets above 10% CPU. Seems like something runs every 30 mins, and a few zfs jobs over the weekend. https://imgur.com/IkqibfY

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I'm running photoprism, which is probably using some

carmine sleet
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Hello, complete hardware n00b looking to tinker with something (hopefully this is the right channel!)

I've just got a couple of Everything Presence One's delivered (https://shop.everythingsmart.io/products/everything-presence-one-kit), and I'd love to hook one of them up to an external battery so I can fix it in a place that isn't easy to get mains power too. I've no idea from the volts/amps it takes if that's realistically possible, what type of batteries I'd have to use, or whether i'd be better off using the 5v input headers or USB-C input for such a task. Would love any pointers I can get without needing to go out and get an entire electronics degree! (I don't mind doing the legwork/research/trial & error, but having someone at least point me in the right direction would be appreciated 😅 )

quick yarrow
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Needing more power than a lithium cr2032 can provide during northern climate winters. Wanting to enclose an open close sensor with a AAA battery pack running at 3v. Does anyone have any experience with a small waterproof project box and a AAA pack that runs at 3V?

hearty marsh
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And not crash the host os 🙂

jagged crypt
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so any battery pack that generates 5v output with at least 500ma of power... 🙂

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at the absolute simplest, almost any "phone charger" usb battery pack that functions with the low 160ma draw. Requires nothing more then a credit card to purchase and plug in. no degree required.

jagged crypt
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personally i picked the i5-6500 (couple newer generations) for remote console options

sand bobcat
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I want to set the switch on my "Shelly plus 1" over MQTT, but I can't get it to respond. I see the info in MQTT Explorer when I manually flip the switch in the app, but I can't figure out what topic and payload to send. 😦
Anyone?

hollow sierra
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my off-the-shelf stuff that is weatherproofed for outdoors and takes two AAs just has a rubber seal around the battery door

dusky vapor
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Does anyone know of a 240V relay that can be controlled to allow up to about 12A? I'm pondering having a diverter for my immersion for excess solar but I already can see my export. Is there a device that I can use from ha that could do this? 🤔

hollow sierra
dusky vapor
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🤣

stable escarp
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Anyone have a recommendation for a power monitoring plug/socket? That integrates directly with HA?

muted arch
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I use the aqara zigbee ones with zigbee2mqtt and it works pretty well. But if you don't have zigbee yet, they might not be the best choice

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Is there some (ready made) solution to measure noise levels? I could probably just read it out of some PC microphone, but I'm thinking more calibrated noise meter style

copper juniper
#

sonoff s31

fluid zinc
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Any Flic users here? Is it really much better than the standard zigbee buttons like the ones from Aqara or IKEA? Price is quite different...

hearty marsh
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Finally got my LXC running jellyfin to mount an NFS share.

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That was a total pain

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I'm skipping a bunch of security to make it happen though. 😦

timber tree
#

Any gardeners out there have some kind of moisture sensing setup for their outdoor gardens? Beginning to dabble, and want to see if anybody has some cautionary tails to share

acoustic swan
#

I had ordered the Homey Pro, but now I'm thinking of going the HomeAssistant route instead. I was thinking of ordering the ODROID N2+. It seems buying that and the SkyConnect as well would be a great route. Anything else I am missing, or anything you believe I could do better?

winged knoll
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The N2+ is a fine starter platform, and will give you more headroom than a Pi4 would

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Running on a PC/old laptop will give you even more headroom

acoustic swan
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I thought about using a NUC or the Lenovo tiny computers but I was unsure where the cut-off is between the two in terms of usefulness. I'm not going to be using it as a streaming server or anything

winged knoll
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Well, if you want to add in cameras and do motion/object detection then more is good

acoustic swan
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Thank you, that helps a lot, you sold me

winged knoll
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I moved from a Pi(3) to an ancient laptop (i5) and it was night and day

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Having added object and motion detection on cameras it was good to move off of that i5 to something newer

acoustic swan
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Yep. I'm pretty aware a Pi won't be enough for me once I'm done. Laptops having the battery power obviously is awesome too. Maybe I'll go through my laptop graveyard. I have a couple that could work. Cheers so much!

civic token
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Anyone aware of any known USB power management / suspension issues on HAOS on an Intel NUC? I strongly suspect that my USB devices are being put to sleep after a few hours, as every single night (or even after around 4-5 hours of inactivity), I find that both my HUSBZB-1 and my Wyze Sense (the only two USB devices) no longer have lights on, and HA doesn't see them until I reboot the machine.

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I've plugged in a dell mouse with a red light on it and will leave it all overnight to see if that light goes off as well, but I'd rather try and tackle this now instead of tomorrow. Next plan is to dig out a monitor and plug it in to check the BIOS to see if there are any power management settings. Also, to check for some Linux power saving modes for the USB things, which presently looks like its set to suspend USB devices after 2 seconds, but they definitely stay on longer than that, per https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/91027/how-to-disable-usb-autosuspend-on-kernel-3-7-10-or-above . I can't edit the necessary files through SSH, so I'll need to get a monitor hooked up.

scarlet badger
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I do have NUC 4th gen and I tuned IT in BIOS.

civic token
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"IT" ?

scarlet badger
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sorry I mean this feature to put sleep USB.

civic token
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Oh, I'm not even certain that that kind of setting exists in the BIOS, but now you've given me some hope. I'll get a monitor later tonight and take a look. Thanks!!

scarlet badger
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i think but shure 99% it is called DEEP s4

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it was few months back now mu NIC is monuted in wall without monitor stable as rock

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show me your BIOS deep sleep screen perhaps I will be able to help you.

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it is under POWER SETTINGS

jovial verge
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What's the smallest outdoor rated zigbee or zwave motion sensor?

runic skiff
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oh forgot, Light?

jovial verge
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motion lol

runic skiff
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Umm, I think Zooz made/makes a small outdoor motion sensor, not sure if its the "smallest" (Zwave is mostly what Zooz does though)

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There are Flood Lights with built in motion sensors, if you're trying to hide it.. but not sure if any are Zigbee, the Sengled ones might be

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Frankly, I prefer just using Cameras for outside motion detection. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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And I have 1 of the Aqara P1 Motion sensors on the Porch. I just sealed it up with some clear silicone using a old ID card to spread/smooth the silicone to make it look peerrtty

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Although they are pretty well sealed already, just a little additional caution with the silicone

jovial verge
runic skiff
jovial verge
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I was thinking I could seal up some PIR sensors and run wires to a single esp

runic skiff
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RCWL-0516 + ESP32 is an ideal pairing.. but they would need a power source, not great on power

runic skiff
jovial verge
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Lol I've used a ton of esphome

runic skiff
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Well that would remove the need for Zigbee or Zwave and you could get those tiny PIR sensors

jovial verge
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I've just got this PTZ camera that can see like half my fence line, it'd be slick to have it know if anyone was creeping around the fence

runic skiff
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these things are tiny.. just need to 3D Print a tiny box for 'em

jovial verge
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I wonder how long of a lead you can run those from

runic skiff
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I think the output on the output pin is 3.3v.. so calculate your voltage from from that

jovial verge
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I have a bunch of outdoor cat 6, could stick theoretically run six sensors off a drop

runic skiff
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yeah, but limited based on the available Pins on the ESP

jovial verge
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Really they'd need to be like every 8-10 feet along the fence

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Someone needs to sell rope lights with integrated motion sensors lol

runic skiff
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Well you could just use a LED Controller with Motion Sensor on it.. as most rope lights are LEDs now a days

jovial verge
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I'm just thinking formfactor of basically string motion+light sensors

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I like your microwave radio idea tho

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I could embed a box at the base of the fence every few feet and run simple 5v lines buried underground

runic skiff
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Yeah, or run a higher voltage to a single location near the center of the fence, and then split the voltage from there. I believe those RCWL-0516 can accept a pretty decent input voltage.

jovial verge
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Interesting they put out 3.3v even

runic skiff
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Yeah.

jovial verge
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What kind of penetration do these sensors have? Does it need to be a thin walled enclosure?

runic skiff
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When I played around with one a while ago, I had one in a 3D Printed case of about 3mm thick

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They will also work behind a light switch cover.

jovial verge
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Maybe I could do fence post caps with hidden sensors

runic skiff
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They are stupid cheat, like 2-3$ .. might be worth just getting one, and playing around with it..

jovial verge
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It's like 8bux for 5 of em lol

runic skiff
jovial verge
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I have a bunch of esp8266/32s lying around already

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Tho it looks like these will mutually interfere with each other in close proximity

runic skiff
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They shouldn't, I didn't have any issues with the ones I tested out

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But if they are outside, along a fence, surely that can't interfere with much of anything..

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Alternatively you have the HLK-LD2410B
mmWave w/ Bluetooth right on the sensor PCB.

jovial verge
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Honestly I could probably do the same thing with a fixed camera with a wide FOV

lime crane
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cheap, simple, wire on the side, that's all.

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Frankly, with IR camera, you don't need light either.

runic skiff
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I believe the objective of @jovial verge is to use the multiple sensors along with the PTZ Camera. To direct the camera where there is motion. And most likely the mention of rope likes would be a more functional/decorative way of implementing the motions sensors into the fence instead of having some random wires showing or having to submerge them in the ground.

tough quest
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Hi,

So we have a new apartment, and it seems the electricity in some key areas for lighting wasn't done by the electrician as we requested.

I have the following setup in mind, one that I think can solve most of my issues:

  • A smart relay (which should support the load of an LED strip)

  • A wireless switch that can control the relay (I need two, one for each end of the hallway)

  • An LED strip which can be directly connected to a 220v wires

Is such a setup possible?

Where can I find relays/wireless/LED strips? (home assistant friendly)

runic skiff
# tough quest Hi, So we have a new apartment, and it seems the electricity in some key areas ...

A smart relay that can handle the load of LED strip? Idk of a relay that can't.. the "load" of a LED Strip is practically nothing. And most relays are often rated for AC power, LED strips are DC.

There are tones.. the Lutron Pico for example or even something as simple as a Aquara Smart Mini Switch.. if the relay is smart, it can be controlled by almost any Smart Switch.

  • LED strips are DC.. 220v is AC. You need a converter. LED strips are typically 5v, 12v, and rarely 24v
runic skiff
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I'd look for one that accepts AC input, so that you have your Controller and Converter in the same box

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Or you can look at any of the Sonoff Relays, or Shelly relays.

paper fern
#

Hello, I'm looking for recommendations for zigbee downlights (3.5"). I run zha on a conbee stick on a home assistant blue. Currently all of my hue bulbs work great but dont fit well in the ceiling cans. I am looking at these https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Tuya_TS0505B.html

runic skiff
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Or if you want to keep the Hue bulbs, just look for a deeper can light.

paper fern
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I'll check that out. Thanks.

valid forge
#

Somebody has experience with a LOQED Smart Door lock?

valid forge
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or any other good solution for a smart door

jovial verge
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I have a zwave Schlage Encode and it's given me no trouble

civic token
#

I have HAOS installed on an Intel NUC, and I believe that my USB devices are auto suspending after ~4.5 hours of no use, or at least overnight. I am asking for help in disabling USB auto-suspend. Specifically, my Z-Wave and Zigbee support (provided by a HUSBZB-1 USB stick), my Wyze Sense USB device simply stop responding after some time, necessitating a reboot of the Intel NUC to resolve. When I check on the system in the morning, the USB devices' lights are off, and this applies to a mouse I plugged in to test this. Restarting only HA does not help, I have to reboot the hardware, which I do through HA's web interface. Following some steps here (https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/t7pxpk/are_all_of_your_usb_devices_disconnecting/) and using the Terminal Add-On, running "cat /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend" yields "2", which seems to indicate that autosuspend is active. I am unable to make the permanent change suggested in that thread to disable USB auto suspension as it indicates I should add a line to "/etc/default/grub", but using the Studio Code Server Add-On and opening "/etc/default", I find no "grub" there. I have plugged a monitor in and am directly interfacing with linux via the command line, and there is no "/etc/default", let alone "/etc/defualt/grub". Should I install grub or grub2 or something and then make the change? Is there something else I'm missing here? Can somebody please help me in disabling USB auto-suspend on my Intel NUC with HAOS installed?

golden thorn
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Set up proper SSH access or use a keyboard and mouse and type in login: https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/operating-system/debugging#ssh-access-to-the-host
Edit /mnt/boot/cmdline.txt with vi /mnt/boot/cmdline.txt. Mine looks like this at the moment

console=ttyS0 console=tty1 usbcore.autosuspend=-1

After a reboot to check if it sticks (it was 2 before)

# cat /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend
-1

Tada. Not sure if this is the right approach but give it a try and please stop cross posting this

civic token
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Ok, cat /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend yielded '2'. I used vi as indicated, rebooted the system, and now it yields '-1'. That's exactly what I was trying to do, thank you so much @golden thorn ! Now I guess I just.. wait, and see if it did anything, lol. I'll check it in the morning. Thanks so much!

golden thorn
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No problem. Feel free to keep me updated

austere cedar
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Not sure where to ask. But can I hook any wifi speaker up to HA

civic token
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I should probably use a USB stick and generate the public keys and whatever else is needed for proper SSH access without needing to dig out a monitor each time. Thanks for indicating how to do that. Your respond could not have been more helpful or to the point.

civic token
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autosuspend is still set to -1! So I'm guessing this isn't a suspension issue. I also updated the BIOS to the latest version as well. I'm starting to wonder if the issue is the Intel NUC itself, though I can't even think of how to figure out if thats the case. Maybe boot to a Linux live distro and just leave it on overnight. bah. i dont want to mess with this 😦