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blazing hawk
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I’m also extra sensitive to light and how it affects my circadian rhythm through-out the day. I use different white’s and RGB colors depending on the time of day to affect my mood and alertness. Helps me wake up, be productive and also when winding down for sleep. That’s why it’s so important for me. I’m certainly not throwing Disco parties.

zealous dune
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Not really, never went hard into that

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I also prefer my lighting to be quality, that's why I have good quality large ceiling lights instead of expecting lots of lumens from a tiny bulb

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Yeelights

gloomy spoke
zealous dune
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That's my kitchen

jagged crypt
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no market? I haven't played with LIFX to compare the color bulbs. I understand wanting lumens (i'm not a fan of "60 watt equiv"), but do you need/want color in the areas where you want 1600 lumen bulbs? Make more sense to pick up color accents and bright white for everything else?

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Also, the hue "white ambience" will do 2700k-4500k (not sure those are in the 1600 lumen though)

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yeah, ok, the white ambience is $45 vs $22 for white only.

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The other point to think about, paying $45+ for a bulb may be expensive, but if you have no other options, it's going to just be time vs cost vs not having it.

blazing hawk
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True, I might consider Phillips Hue when I have the money.

blazing hawk
jagged crypt
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so blue accent perhaps?

blazing hawk
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So it is important for me to have that in the main living areas at-least.

jagged crypt
blazing hawk
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My house needs a lot of work, I definitely plan on having accent lighting and additional fixtures added along the vaulted ceiling when I have it rewired but that’s years away.

jagged crypt
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by accent lighting i mean literally a second bulb next to the 1600 ambience one that adds color

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or as a couple people have mentioned, just drop two or more bulbs into fixtures/areas

blazing hawk
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Hmm, perhaps yes

jagged crypt
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as an example

blazing hawk
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Damn, that’s gonna look like ass. Maybe I could figure it out though.

jagged crypt
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etc

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there are a lot of "options" and they may not work at all

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depends what the bulbs are going in or behind (lampshades, torchon, etc?)

blazing hawk
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Amazon had a great deal on LIFX bulbs at the end of the year. Got a bulk deal for 22.50 each so I’m hoping Home Assistant can fix the reliability issue and I’ll be happy for a few years until someone makes a Zigbee version.

jagged crypt
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make sure you have good wifi, and you should be good, unless they are that bad (which i don't assume)

blazing hawk
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Unifi Dream Router

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Had to pay scalper prices because they’re out of stock everywhere but worth it. The functionality is insane!

drifting grove
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What's the general consensus on wyze products? Specifically cameras?

winged knoll
drifting grove
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I'm having a little bit of trouble with my Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 dongle plus. I have flashed it and installed the most up to date firmware, but when I plug the dongle into my home assistant (pi 4) it all falls down. Home Assistant discovers it and when I tap configure I get a prompt to choose the network settings for the radio. I am just starting, so currently I don't have any other devices to Restore, so I tap on erase network settings and form a new network. Then she bugs out and it just says error. I tried tapping upload a manual backup but I have nothing to upload. Any help with this would be fantastic

winged knoll
twilit spoke
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Hi guys, can someone knows a guide/post/correct channel to help me on my project of home automation with this architecture:

  • Raspberry pi with home assistant -> to ...
    -> communication with rs485 -> to ...
    -> Arduino -> to ...
    -> relay, actuator, sensor, etc...

Does anyone have experience on how to build a solution (hardware and software) with these arguments?

gloomy elbow
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Did you try ESPHome already?

outer knotBOT
twilit spoke
zealous dune
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you are quite wrong about that

gloomy elbow
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You can definitely do wired connections with ESPs

twilit spoke
# gloomy elbow You can definitely do wired connections with ESPs

ah ok, i think that only works with esp8266/esp32 (wireless connection).
So how to use correctly ESPHome in my architecture. Like this:

  • Raspberry pi with home assistant -> to ...
    -> esp -> to ...
    -> Arduino -> to ...
    -> relay, actuator, sensor, etc...

I'm right?
How to fisically connect arduino to raspberry (long distance)?

zealous dune
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what's the arduino for?

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what happened to RS485?

outer knotBOT
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The XY problem is asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem.

twilit spoke
# zealous dune what's the arduino for?

I try to explain well my question, Raspberry with home assistant stays for remote connection to home automation and to manage the scenario, etc. I wanted to use multiple Arduino to manage the "actuators/sensor" scattered around the house.

My goals are 2:

  • install sensors, energy meter, switch, etc.. in every room, distant from each other
  • use cabled technology, no Zigbee, Bluetooth or radio (only if it's necessary )

The architecture i supposed to use is HA (on raspberry), with Modbus rs485 and compatible shield, communicating with multiple slave Arduino; also any single Arduino has MAX485 module.
So raspberry and multiple Arduino slaves share a register with all the sensor states; every single Arduino read only the block they are interested in.
Single Arduino actuates sensors, reads values of sensors, etc...

My questions are:

  1. This architecture, is the best way?
  2. If it's right, which hardware is natively compatible with HA, to achieve these goals? RS485 CAN HAT?
  3. How to establish a Modbus communication on HA with a custom register?
gloomy elbow
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Well one thing worth considering is that a Raspberry Pi will not result in optimal HA performance. You may be better off sending the data from these devices over say MQTT to HA

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And then you'll be flexible. You can still use a Pi with Modbus if you want, but that's out of my scope of expertise.

twilit spoke
winged knoll
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Better than a Pi

gloomy elbow
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If you want to be able to use HA for all the things without running into slowdowns and limitations, yes 🙂

lucid dagger
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I looked everywhere and can't find it. Is there some kind of sensor to measure how filled your waste bin is? lol. I can only find industrial ones for waste management companies.

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I'm probably not the first person that thought of this so maybe it is expensive/not feasible?

twilit spoke
outer knotBOT
zealous dune
summer glade
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Hello, newbie here. So I'm planning on a simple automated lightning setup, my starting goal is (hopefully) simple: Two RGBs bulbs, controllable via HA interface. (Probably making it vary depending on time of day).
I didn't went into a shopping spree yet, I want to make sure my plan makes sense first:

  • I'll run HA on my Synology NAS, via Docker. I'll probably use ZHA as well (?)
  • I'll buy a ConBee II stick for the connectivity, as it's seems relatively recommended and available where I live (EU).
  • I'll buy two tradfri ikea bulbs, and use my normal lamp sockets. (they seem a good trade-off between price and availability).

That's it? Am I missing something, is there a more 'standard' recommendation?

jagged crypt
winged knoll
jagged crypt
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I bought a sonoff-e stick and use ZHA with HAOS (not docker) in a proxmox VM with no issues for "Basic" zigbee connectivity to ikea buttons and sengled power monitoring plugs (US)

winged knoll
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There's some build quality issues with the Sonoff sticks, but most of them are fine and work well

jagged crypt
winged knoll
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I'd personally recommend one with an external antenna over a PCB one

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It does at least come with an extension cable though

jagged crypt
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I only have experience with a sonoff-e on an extension cable, was plug and play with zero issues (with ZHA)

summer glade
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Hmm, sadly none of these options are/seems available to me :/
But I'll continue looking then, thanks!

winged knoll
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There should be plenty of CC2652 based options available to you, even if you have to buy them from AliExpress

past ivy
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Hey ho. Im looking for humidity sensors. I need like 4-5 of them. Not sure which to buy. A friend of mine has problems with his aqara losing connection. Are the sonoff ones better or are those just cheap? I thought aqara is one of the best

zealous dune
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Sonoff is cheaper and worse. Aqara is not the best but very good for the price

unique lantern
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What type of connection are you looking for? BLE, Zigbee, Z-Wave, WiFi?

past ivy
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Is buying those on ali express a bad choice?

zealous dune
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Those being...

past ivy
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Aqara humidity sensor or sonoff or some smart plugs

zealous dune
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Heiman and frient are reliable sensors

winged knoll
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Don't buy Sonoff sensors, or Tuya

zealous dune
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Not that I had any issues with Aqara in the past 3+ years

past ivy
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sadly here in germoney everything is like +40% germoney tax. And I cant afford that for all rooms

past ivy
zealous dune
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You can buy from the entire EU

past ivy
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mostly looked into amazon. Because... amazon. Will take a look into heiman

zealous dune
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You haven't been listening in the right places

past ivy
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wdym?

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wait. Your name... Are you the one with this awesome zigbee website?

zealous dune
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I am the same guy, the site is far from awesome but serves it's purpose

past ivy
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thanks for your service!

zealous dune
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Thank you for the kind words

past ivy
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And I cant find the heiman one

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nvm got it on ur linked site

jagged crypt
winged knoll
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The E is fine for ZHA, not for Zigbee2MQTT

jagged crypt
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yes

summer glade
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Yep "exactly", I can't buy from Amazon. (My country's not part of the european economic union, and border fees/taxes are a pain). But I found another, smaller, local supplier, I'll look at my options.

sterile sapphire
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quick question, do I need wifi on my hardware if I am connecting it via ethernet? In other words, does HA use WIFI to talk directly to WIFI components? The reason I'm asking is because I'm trying to pick a computer to install HA on and some don't have wifi or bluetooth. I don't think it is needed but wanted to check with you guys.

winged knoll
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No, you don't, and no it doesn't

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It's just like your phone, it uses WiFi and doesn't need a wired connection to talk to anything that's wired to your router

sterile sapphire
winged knoll
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Thankfully no

unique lantern
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Bluetooth is nice to have if you end up wanting to use Bluetooth Low Energy sensors, but you can always either get a USB stick for that or use something like an ESP32

jagged crypt
sterile sapphire
unique lantern
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Not really. I have 2 ESP32s covering ~1200 sqare feet on 2 floors

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Though even if you have bad coverage, you can add more ESP32s which are super cheap

sterile sapphire
unique lantern
sterile sapphire
summer glade
jagged crypt
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no swiss free-trade with EU? (not trying to turn this into a political statement, online answers are a bit obtuse)

past ivy
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any recommendations for good / affordable zigbee door / window sensors?

winged knoll
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Xiaomi Aqara - E1 if you can get them

past ivy
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E1 is the brand?

winged knoll
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No, Xiaomi Aqara is the brand, E1 is the range

past ivy
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But why "if i can get them"?

winged knoll
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Because they're hard to get outside of China

past ivy
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Oh are they similar to the other ones from aqara?

winged knoll
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Same with their T1 range (which is even harder to get anywhere but a physical store)

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They're the same, but Zigbee 3.0

past ivy
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ohhh so just buy them on ali express would not be a good option cuz I would "buy" the E1 but get older ones

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I see

winged knoll
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Well, generally you'll know what you're getting as the store will say what model it is

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Doesn't make it any easier to find

past ivy
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wsdcgq11lm

winged knoll
past ivy
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ah ok thanks!

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would it be ok to buy the others?

winged knoll
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Sure

past ivy
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looked into like 10 offers and none had the model u gave me

winged knoll
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Just keep in mind the rules for pairing Xiaomi

past ivy
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the rule...? I would need to look into it

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But i guess it would be listed on zigbee2mqtt right?

winged knoll
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Pair in place, via a specific router

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Xiaomi's Zigbee 1.2 devices pair to the first thing they hear from, even if that's a router at the opposite end of the house with almost no signal

past ivy
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ahhhh

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Ive already heard that one. But I thought its some kind of joke'ish. In generel networks are smart enough to pair devices with the best signal strength.

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So e.g. if one would move a device, the network detects it and gives you another gateway

winged knoll
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Well.. no

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If you move a device it's entirely up to that device to decide what to do, if anything

past ivy
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FML. Mobile networks do it likt that..

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Actually yes. The phone changes the pairing partner..

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Interesting. So xiaomi smarted on that...

winged knoll
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The rule of thumb is:

  1. Routers will change parent as they feel like it
  2. Zigbee 3.0 end devices will change parent as they feel like it
  3. Everything else is a roll of the dice, but Xiaomi almost certainly won't
past ivy
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actually kinda funny rule of thumb ngl.

winged knoll
past ivy
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Sooo.. Aqara temperature sensor, Aqara door sensor... And what is a "good" smart plug? I've read dont get tuya devices.

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Yeah all hopes on matter

winged knoll
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Yeah... about that...

past ivy
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:D

winged knoll
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Good depends on your country, but Innr is usually good

past ivy
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EU -> Germany

winged knoll
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Innr then

past ivy
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kk. I need to deck out the house with almost everything. So i need some routers for the network

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And some basics sensors..

winged knoll
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"basics"?

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Light? Motion? Presence (which is different)? Temperature? Humidity?

past ivy
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temperature and door / windows

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You already suggested aqara there :)

winged knoll
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Aqara is fine for all that

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I like the Terncy door/window sensors, but they cost a little more

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Heiman also do some nice temperature/humidity sensors

past ivy
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and

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was suggested earlier today

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Oh the Innr plugs dont detect power usage. I would like that in order to track if my washing machine is done.

winged knoll
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Salus then

past ivy
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Companies I have never heard of before

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FML they are hella expensive

winged knoll
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Not really

past ivy
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50€

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I thought a plug would be arround 10€ :D

winged knoll
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That's more than I paid for the UK version 😄

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€10 is cheap shit Tuya levels

past ivy
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probably

gloomy spoke
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Dimmers and power measurement are always more expensive

winged knoll
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I expect to pay about £20 to £25 for the UK Salus plug

gloomy spoke
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And harder to find

past ivy
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20€ or 25€ is okaish

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but double that is somewhat hard

zealous dune
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Tuya plugs ain't all that bad

jagged crypt
zealous dune
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But you'll be gambling

past ivy
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am i allowed to post links?

winged knoll
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Sure

zealous dune
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Those plugs are difficult to fit into EU sockets

jagged crypt
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very much so

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you could use an adapter 😉

zealous dune
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Or move to Murica

jagged crypt
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yeah, not going to suggest that

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(and i live in california)

zealous dune
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That's the worst part

past ivy
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i probably will get hated

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but

gloomy elbow
past ivy
gloomy elbow
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I bought 1 the other day which worked so I bought the others I needed.

past ivy
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i will short the shitty part from the link

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yes. If anything from China or whatever only zigbee

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Even from my home country no wifi

gloomy elbow
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I didn't buy that one to be clear.

past ivy
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I dont trust the claims they make there

zealous dune
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You will be for switching people AliX to German

past ivy
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Zigbee 3.0 and 3680W

past ivy
zealous dune
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I have a 6€ 20A plug from AliExpress but still didn't open it to see how close to the truth it is

zealous dune
winged knoll
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I always open Ali links posted here in Incognito to avoid that

past ivy
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Only need to check if I find those plugs on ur site :P

zealous dune
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I can't begin to imagine how badly translated German from badly translated Chinese to English looks like

zealous dune
past ivy
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im fine with badly translated english

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not sure why the de. was there. My site is set to english

gloomy spoke
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The main AliExpress page probably redirects you based on IP geo. I'm sent to the us.xxx version

zealous dune
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That explains why I end up on random countries in Asia, AliX doesn't know where I live

past ivy
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I only found that one

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Not the ali link ive linked before

zealous dune
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That one is actually at least 12 plugs

past ivy
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12 plugs?

jagged crypt
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minimum purchase

zealous dune
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Z2M docs groups different devices with same features

past ivy
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Oh this is what u mean..

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But i guess it is still a decend router to beginn with?

zealous dune
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Guess is all you have

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You're facing the eternal dilemma, you want something good but don't want to pay the price for good. So now you're leaning into gambling with cheap stuff

winged knoll
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Buy cheap, buy twice.

Buy Tuya, but thrice.

zealous dune
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That said, my Tuya plugs route just fine 😉

livid briar
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I'm trying to pair some ESP8266MOD boards with ESPhome and everytime I get them pairs it seems like HA doesn't respond and then they disconnect from HA. I can see the baords connecting to my wifi from my router but they are not connecting with ESPHome in HA. I've set the logging level to debug but nothing popped out to me when I checked teh logs.

livid briar
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the error code I get is CONNECTION_CLOSED errno=11

blazing hawk
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What’s the difference between the “Generic X86-64” installation method vs “Windows?” Does the former wipe the current operating system?

gloomy spoke
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yes

blazing hawk
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Gotcha. I was thinking about also running a Proxy server like Pi-Hole so perhaps I should just install Linux? I’ve never had to mess with Operating Systems before so this should be a journey. 😂

gloomy spoke
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you can run the Adguard addon, which is generally preferred over Pi-Hole

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you'll be better off installing HA OS using the Generic x86-64 method and using the addons that you need if you have little/no experience with installing and maintaining your own OS and have no interest in learning

blazing hawk
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I have an interest in learning, I’ve just never had a reason to play around with Linux before.

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Is there an add-on for running a transparent proxy like Squid?

gloomy spoke
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I don't use Squid, but I do use NGINX as a reverse proxy

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and I don't use addons at all, so someone else will probably be better able to answer further questions in #add-ons-archived

blazing hawk
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Appreciate it!

hearty marsh
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I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this but...

I'm running HA Supervised on my RPI3B (might be a RPI3B+ I just can't remember :D). I'm assuming 1GB of RAM is pretty light and would explain why sometimes I cannot access HA (or the machine via SSH). I'm planning to create a swap partition of 6GB (I have a 500GB SSD). Should this be enough? overkill?

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I know this is a bandaid solution but i'm trying to avoid new HW until RPI4 w/ 8GB gets restocked

willow timber
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if you're upgrading, you don't want to go after a pi4 anyways

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I mean, MAYBE, but a mini pc with a similar price is much more powerful

unique lantern
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A $100ish used thin client from eBay or similar will perform better than a rpi3 or rpi4

willow timber
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Sorry, I didn't answer your question about the swap.

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I don't think it matters much, you can always change it again later if it doesn't work out.

unique lantern
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Adding a swap file and letting it swap will both make the system go even slower than the slow rpi3 is already, plus kill your ~SD card SSD faster

willow timber
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they're on SSD

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but yeah, you just want a used mini pc. it will be way beefy for the future

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people often start with the pi4 + ssd and then move up so I wouldn't recommend that being your upgrade path

tacit burrow
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go buy a lenovo thinkcentre or a dell optim"ax"? like $100 second hand, decent cpu, memory, disks etc. Fairly low power.

unique lantern
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An old laptop works too if you have one laying around

willow timber
unique lantern
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I'll also add in the obligatory "don't run supervised"

tacit burrow
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Yeah, run HAOS (in a VM if you like); unless you really want to make your life hard/flexible.

blazing hawk
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Ironically a Pi4 cost more then what I picked up off Facebook Marketplace today.

tacit burrow
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I run proxmox and a few vms/containers on it; works great.

hearty marsh
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thanks guys, this is good advice

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i'll likely need to use a swap file for the short term unfortunately.

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a mini pc is fine with me, i just need to be able to install linux

willow timber
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I'm sort of surprised you ever had good results with 1gb of ram, neat

hearty marsh
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it's been fine until i started to approach ~20 devices

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mostly zwave stuff and a couple ip cameras

tacit burrow
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something like proxmox runs native on the hardware (it's actually linux) as a type-1 hypervisor; you can run linux Vms or containers, whatever you like

hearty marsh
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oh cool

tacit burrow
hearty marsh
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oh cool

tacit burrow
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incl HAOS

hearty marsh
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this doesn't necessarily translate 1:1 but i'd love to implement something like the ETSI NFV architecture but use it run HA instead of a 3GPP network 🙂

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basically i'd like to do something like HW Resources -> Openstack (or equivalent) -> Kubernetes -> Docker -> HA

hearty marsh
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why is supervised frowned upon?

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i dont mind managing a linux OS

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im assuming that's the only issue with it

tacit burrow
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it's just a pain; no need for pain; VM is better, or core/docker.

willow timber
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I use a docker compose setup and love it

tacit burrow
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Yup, that's fine too 🙂 I run that on my local for dev.

willow timber
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I thought I typed about docker compose in here earlier but accidentally wandered into another channel

tacit burrow
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@hearty marsh Why on earth would you put openstack/kube before docker? They're more-or-less the other way around

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You would use HW -> Type-1 Virtualiser (ESXi, Proxmox etc) -> VMs or Containers (the VMs can run containers, of course)

hearty marsh
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isn't that more or less what i said? (sorry im still learning this stuff a bit)

tacit burrow
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Most of the virtualisers have cluster/NAS type capabilities.

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You had them in this order: HW Resources -> Openstack (or equivalent) -> Kubernetes -> Docker -> HA

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I think I got crosswired from openshift (which is redhat kubernetes).

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Ignore

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openstack is broadly similar to proxmox/esxi

hearty marsh
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all in all im really just after an IaaS and CaaS setup

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so i can hopefully create some type of high reliability for HA

tacit burrow
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If you have a cluster of VM hosts you can probably live or nearly-live migrate the HA VM between them (if you have NAS)

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ESXi or Proxmox will totally do that.

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Get yourself a couple of play boxes, install the options, play and learn!

unique lantern
# hearty marsh i only did this be HAOS wouldn't boot on my RPI3

Not sure why HAOS wouldn't run on your pi3. It's a supported platform and I used to run it on one before I moved to my pi4

The reason supervised is not recommended is because you have to follow the requirements or else your system is prone to blowing up on you

tacit burrow
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I used to use haos on my rpi3 until the sd-card died (duh), then I moved to an old laptop, then moved to the proxmox/lenovo

hearty marsh
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sounds good @tacit burrow! my original idea was a cluster of RPIs but that doesnt seem like a great idea now 🙂

tacit burrow
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Yeah, besides they fact that they're (rpi) not available, a SFF PC (or two) is a much better option.

unique lantern
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Even the small online shop I buy home automation stuff from has stopped trying to sell the pi and is starting to stock used SFF PCs pre-installed with HA

hearty marsh
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And yes, I followed those requirements to the letter.

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thankfully i've been using linux for quite some time so that wasn't too bad.

unique lantern
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They also change over time so you need to keep up on them since they'll change without warning

hearty marsh
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oh fun

unique lantern
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The good news is that moving yourself from Supervised to HAOS is very easy. You just take a backup, install HAOS, restore, and you're done

hearty marsh
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awesome

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the price to jump to SFF PCs doesn't seem bad either

gloomy elbow
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It's not at all, especially factoring in availability of Pis right now

hearty marsh
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no joke

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i was planning to wait till 2nd quarter this year

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from my understanding supply is supposed to "return to normal" then

tacit burrow
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don't wait for rpi. they're kindof crap. used sff pcs are SO much better.

hearty marsh
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yeah i will

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those lenovo's look decent

tacit burrow
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And some are still fairly low power, like 30W

hearty marsh
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anything to watch out for when buying used?

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that's new territory for me when it comes to PCs

unique lantern
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I'd probably aim for up to 5 year old machines if you're buying used. If you go for something really old, you'll just pay for it later in power costs

gloomy elbow
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Replace the SSD in something you buy, or buy something without a drive in it if it's off eBay/Craigslist/wherever

tacit burrow
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lots of the refurbs come with new ssds

gloomy elbow
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If it comes with an actually new SSD that's great

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If it's a guy saying "yeah, I totally wiped it", don't trust them 😛

unique lantern
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A lot of times the drives in the machines will be removed and destroyed by the business getting rid of the machine, the driveless machines is given to a recycler, and then the recycler puts drives in to resell them

gloomy elbow
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I just buy it from the reseller without the SSD, then I get to pick one that meets my standards 🙂

tacit burrow
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ymmv 🙂

hearty marsh
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good points

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i'll likely go for machines without a drive

gloomy elbow
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I find here in the UK it's easier to pick up machines without a drive

swift sand
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can i use a zbmini to control a exhaust fan without a wall switch. i.e. put it all in the ceiling and have HA control it ?

hearty marsh
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only problem, can't find a spec list for the model

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i'd want to swap out the HDD for an SSD

unique lantern
swift sand
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new house

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hmmm looks like sonoff are not certified for australia anyway..

unique lantern
tacit burrow
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Yup that's (CPU) what I've got in my thinkcentre

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But I've got 256GB SSD and 16GB ram

hearty marsh
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from what it looks like, you just use same ol' stuff

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im worried about physical dimensions more than anything as the I/O looks pretty standard

tacit burrow
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If your memory slots are full, upgrading involves throwing it away.
And I prefer SSD not spinning iron. But that would be more $

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if you're only going to run HA and a few addons, 8GB is fine

unique lantern
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If you're going to upgrade the RAM anyway, I'd probably look for something with the amount of RAM you want instead of trying to upgrade it since the difference in price of an 8GB vs 16GB machine is probably less than a new kit of RAM

tacit burrow
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Yeah, what s/he said

unique lantern
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A lot of times the machines will have say 2 slots of 4GB sticks and only 2 slots total, so you'd have to buy 2x 8GB sticks to upgrade it and basically throw the 4GB sticks away (recycle responsibly)

hearty marsh
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I'd imagine 8GB is fine in the long run. I'm not trying to run anything but HA on this...and maybe some equivalent of a pihole

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i havent decided on what i want to do for a local streaming of media....sounds like it would be an upgrade away

blazing hawk
unique lantern
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Yeah, definitely worth seeing what other prices are out there for a good deal. The specs are solid though

hearty marsh
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ya im going to sleep on it and keep looking

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but this has been some solid advice, thanks!

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seems like this is a no brainer for a good long term solution

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especially once you bring proxmox into the equation

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looks like an easy way to high reliability as i expand

tacit burrow
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That looks like a good link, the one with two hard drives and 16GB of ram.

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You'd need a NAS of some kind in order to failover between two servers (if you're chasing HA).

gray basalt
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Alright, I need a little battery operated indicator light. Something with basic RGB. Zigbee, z-wave, don't care. Doesn't have to be bright or especially large. Just something I can stick anywhere and turn off/on and set a color.

gloomy elbow
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What's the purpose of this light?

gray basalt
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I need to add a visual indicator outside my office on whether or not I'm in a meeting

gloomy elbow
gray basalt
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Yeah I can build something with esp32home, I was hoping for something reasonably off the shelf

gloomy elbow
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Well simplest would probably be a Hue Go

gray basalt
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I did not realize those were battery operated. How's the battery life on them?

gloomy elbow
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Not amazing, but they have a decently long lead which helps

gray basalt
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Amazon reviews are suggesting a battery life ~3 hours or so

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I might survive if it's a few weeks but hours is a bit too shy. Hm.

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Given how much rgb indicator lights are mainstay of building games, you'd think aqara or sonoff or someone would produce some real life equivalents

gloomy elbow
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The problem is the battery powered aspect

unique lantern
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It's not Zigbee of course, but things like RF-controlled battery powered puck lights are fairly common

gloomy elbow
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There are plenty of coloured lights, but very few battery powered ones

gray basalt
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yeah maybe I'll just go for some rgb strips along the door trim and run power as needed...

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I appreciate the insight, thanks everyone

jagged crypt
# hearty marsh only problem, can't find a spec list for the model

i5-6500t is fine, i paid ~$135 for something like that, but it included 256gig nvme, and i got lucky with 8gig single sodimm, so got another 8 gigs for $20. Was going to mention those didn't include power cables, but it says it does in the text. When buying these, remember what you see is what you get. IE, don't see a wireless antenna, don't assume you get one. I wouldn't go back beyond the 6th gen cpu's, going newer is fine. You can poke at the dell and hp versions of the same things.

tacit burrow
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panzer put me onto the thinkcentre, I'm very happy with mine

jagged crypt
hearty marsh
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Thanks for the info! I'll check it out.

vagrant geyser
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Can I have 2 SSD in my system, one for HA OS other just for Database and Backups?

dense sierra
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I am trying to work out if they're rebranded from something

zealous dune
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kinda similar to Salus

dense sierra
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The manufacturer hasn't replied to me about whether they support any open stuff. The advertising is all about their cloud app :/

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oh that's certainly a good match on the casing!

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ah so the smart control is all via a 'bridge' device

gloomy elbow
dense sierra
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ah so it could be just that + some firmware? thanks for the research

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I'll pester them more / try and find someone who has it

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I want local-first so if it's all via cloud for HA it won't work for me

gloomy elbow
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Well it depends on the bridge

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A lot of these systems use some kind of RF (my heating does), but the hub does have local MQTT

dawn storm
unique lantern
# vagrant geyser Can I have 2 SSD in my system, one for HA OS other just for Database and Backups...

Sort of. You can install to a drive, then move your data disk to another drive afterward, however you can't select what's moved over. It will move all your user data, config, database, add-ons, backups, etc and all that's left behind on the primary drive is what's needed to boot the OS. It's really a feature designed for devices like Raspberry Pis where the primary drive is an SD card that will die quickly if you write to it too much. More details here: https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#using-external-data-disk

If you need a more complex storage setup than that, you'd need to go with the Container install instead

stark meadow
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Ayo, I have a Samsung Aircon unit, what do I need to control it with HA?

zealous dune
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A universal remote probably

stark meadow
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Ahh cool, any recommendations?

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I have a zigbee setup at the moment if that helps

willow timber
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Do you have a current remote for it? You need to identify what rf frequency it uses, if it does.

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which unit is it?

marsh hamlet
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I have a house that is wired for a security system, but no sensors. I assume any cheap normally closed sensors would work, but is there any hardware to provide for the actual sensors to report back to HA their status?

outer knotBOT
winged knoll
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Which is basically some ESPs

willow timber
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I was trying to think of the name of that

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🙂

marsh hamlet
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thanks!

stark meadow
willow timber
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it might say directly on it or they may be an fcc id. probably in manual or something too

stark meadow
willow timber
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433 MHz according to the amazon listing

zealous dune
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That's pretty much the go to for regular users

livid briar
# outer knot

has anyone used this ? I'm thinking of switching to it and wanted to know what some people who have integrated with HA done

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and what their opinions of it were compared to traditional security systems

marsh hamlet
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I can't speak on that specific system but I have integrated my security system with HA and done things such as if a door is opened, turn on video recording on a specific camera until the door is closed, turning lights on and off when certain doors are opened, notifications to alexa at 9pm if a door or window is open, etc.

livid briar
glossy prism
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Yeah, the state of my security system (custom solution I made with zigbee2mqtt and software I wrote) is the main condition in most of my automations and also triggers some automations

marsh hamlet
spring cape
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What would you guys use as an electric motor to raise and lower a sit/stand desk? I have a 'cheap' ikea desk that uses a hand crank to sit and stand. So the motor can be relatively slow, but needs enough torque to move the desk. The internal gearing is already very low so the motor doesn't need to be too strong but being able to modulate the speed would be a bonus. Would be nice to integrate it into my zigbee network too

jagged crypt
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invest in an actual motorized one? I got a dual-motor autonomous unit used off of craigslist for about 50% retail, but I live in the silicon valley area so availability was nice.

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to get back on track, are you looking to control, or monitor? (i don't have an opinion on motors, but people may have better suggestions based on that answer)

spring cape
# jagged crypt to get back on track, are you looking to control, or monitor? (i don't have an ...

Sure I could get an electric desk, but then I wouldn't get to unnecessarily design and configure extra home automations. From my limited knowledge it would seem a stepper motor would be the best option. What I am hoping to find is a zigbee or zwave compatible controller that is for the most part plug and play. I would just need to design and print a gear set and adaptor to make it all work with my desk.

jagged crypt
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since the standard desks seem to use a control box remote, that interfaces over rj45, i assume (with no backing data) that this is simple serial control of some sort that you could perhaps hijack instead

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possibly attacking it from a different direction than you want to go (for the "unecessarily design") 🙂

void leaf
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Is there anything that can move the skyconnect to be used over ethernet? My setup changed since I ordered it l, so trying to figure if I can use it in any way

winged knoll
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For what Zigbee? Thread?

spring cape
jagged crypt
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check out googling for "standing desk control protocol" found a bunch of other references in there

fervent knoll
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anyone here have thoughts about how to "debug" a FP1 presence sensor? For the last week or so its been reporting always "present". I assume something in the room is causing a false positive, but I'm not sure how to figure out what

winged knoll
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You probably want #zigbee-archived - but when I had false detections it was caused by a fan

fervent knoll
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as far as I know the connection is fine, its reporting correctly

winged knoll
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Yes, but as a Zigbee device, you'll find more people there who use them and know them...

fervent knoll
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got it!

void badger
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can someone recommend a smart thermostat I can pair with temp sensors in other rooms (instead of at the thermostat itself) and tie into HA for local only connectivity?

unique lantern
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I know the Venstar Color Touch has both a local API and the option for either wired or wireless sensors

hearty marsh
# jagged crypt i5-6500t is fine, i paid ~$135 for something like that, but it included 256gig n...

I'm taking this as the 6th generation CPUs won't keep up in a few years but maybe this isn't really an issue if I'm just running HA and various add-ons (ip cameras, zwave, etc)...and potentially 2 other VMs running pihole and some media server.
How does this compare?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255893082293?hash=item3b946a90b5:g:Q-8AAOSwBwBjN6bT&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoDB%2BZ%2BxY6O8eCRfCIHPXvzmn64uNPSWhkQ7J05D4efW4A232jjzZyCglIKiElPCwSZgWyIkfvbPw97wFhFtYvy5O0UQuAXU4HjEdu6re%2BuSERh5Lmb6%2F8lsbXhmK3a1wBs3OntWCUDOLlIZG1hE0c754%2FNlr0kt4T%2BOfk1%2F835HoDXto2G9mdhb91nXRHUD0RfV2u7QH3bOkN1ZJL%2FS51R4%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR5q24-mvYQ

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It's roughly $100 more but puts me in the range of something that was released 4-5 years ago

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looks like the m910q was as well...just a lesser chipset

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honestly...this looks like a steal for $250

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am i wrong? (ok enough spam...back to work 😄 )

zealous dune
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it's aight

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bit power hungry for a small server

void badger
unique lantern
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If you're looking on Amazon, those are inflated unofficial reseller prices. I think the actual price is around $200

void badger
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where should i be looking to buy the thermostat and wireless sensors?

unique lantern
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They have a list of resellers on their website, they all seem to be HVAC/Plumbing supply companies. You'd probably have to contact one of them

void badger
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looks like even the Venstar T3800 supports a 2nd sensor

hearty marsh
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I have the color touch, it's good. My only complaint is lack of temperature calibration for wireless sensors

unique lantern
hearty marsh
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I feel that's a feature that could be added in an update by venstar

willow timber
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I was going to try to proxy one through a home assistant climate setup so I can use my own sensors

hearty marsh
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Folks just need to bug them for it

willow timber
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I think it's doable

unique lantern
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From what I saw of the wired sensor support, you could theoretically attach an ESP to the sensor input, wirelessly collect temperature data from some other source, and dynamically adjust the resistance to match the values the thermostat expects

willow timber
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neat

unique lantern
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That is weird that you can't calibrate the wireless sensor though. Have you found it to be off by a lot?

hearty marsh
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Yes. Mine is off by 4-5 degrees

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I like this idea of using the wired sensor though

willow timber
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jumbers was saying you could use an esp + digital pot. to simulate a wired sensor while actually being wireless. sorry if that is what jumbers is typing atm, lol

unique lantern
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Yeah I don't think the wired sensor would necessarily be any more accurate. I meant it as a way to basically build your own sensor and not use theirs at all

hearty marsh
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Yes, and I think that's brilliant

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I might do that

unique lantern
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As long as you can hide the ESP somewhere, it would be more flexible too since you aren't bound to it averaging all the sensors

hearty marsh
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The wired sensor can be calibrated

unique lantern
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Bonus points if you get a transformer and power the ESP off the 24V common line

hearty marsh
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Ooh! You mean I could do multiple sensors and just pick which is reporting?

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I don't know esp well

willow timber
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you could send the data from anywhere you want.

hearty marsh
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This could make it crazy flexible

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And exactly what I'm looking for

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The current setup works and is fine but it's not ideal.

unique lantern
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The beauty of a platform that gives you all the data to make your own solutions, rather than try to lock you into buying their overpriced proprietary sensors (Ecobee 😠 )

willow timber
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I was looking into digital pots. this looks like one with a good amount of steps, lol

zealous dune
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that Venstar is starting to look good

willow timber
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yeah, I think I am going to end up with it and immediately make a theme that isn't using gradients. 🙂

unique lantern
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Don't forget to get the faux wood faceplate

willow timber
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🙂

unique lantern
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It improves HVAC performance by 10%

willow timber
unique lantern
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Step down voltage regulator from 24V AC to 3.3V DC

willow timber
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nice, for like a doorbell or something, eh?

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I think those use AC a lot of times

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maybe I am making that up

unique lantern
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Most thermostats are 24V AC, so you could power the ESP off the 24V common wire

willow timber
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ahh, nice

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I have some 5v -> 3.3v in my mailbox but it is chilly outside

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going to give myself a 3.3v on my breadboard for these esp01's

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I have a battery charger that can do power supply mode but it only goes down to 5v

unique lantern
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That chip is tiny too, 0.5" by 0.4"

willow timber
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yeah, itty bitty

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doesn't go past the width of the header pins

unique lantern
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I feel like I'm talking myself into a project to replace my Ecobee

willow timber
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haha

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those Ecobees are nice and they have a really nice panel

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the web panel stuff

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compared to nest, anyways

unique lantern
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It's definitely a lot more customizable and flexible than Nest which seems to take the Apple approach of not letting you change anything, but I'm not a fan of the cloud connection nor the requirement to spend $100 for a 2 pack of proprietary sensors

willow timber
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yeah, I have had mine for quite a while and always hoped Google would make it pretty but they never did

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until last month when I got an email about some dumb new dashboard but it's like nothing atm

unique lantern
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When they killed off the old Nest API and replaced it with Google Assistant, I gave my Nest to my parents and bought an Ecobee

willow timber
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my parents have an ecobee

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and so does brother

marsh swift
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Hi, any recommendations for a good long range Bluetooth usb module compatible with hass ?

outer knotBOT
willow timber
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if I could change my sensors with the API, I would be so much happier

mortal lance
#

I have a simple question. Does it make sense to add a Sky Connect to a Home Assistant Yellow? Is there an advantage to combining the devices, or do the functions match in 1:1?

marsh swift
unique lantern
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What are you looking to use bluetooth to do?

willow timber
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Bluetooth is never long range so don't expect a lot of difference between the ranges

marsh swift
hearty marsh
marsh swift
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I have an Apple TV as a HomeKit hub and the Bluetooth range is quite limited over the thick walls I have

hearty marsh
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I will definitely do this and hide the module in the wall

unique lantern
marsh swift
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That’s quite interesting and they will work as a « mesh network » right ?

unique lantern
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Sort of a similar effect but without the actual mesh. They collect BLE beacons and send them back to ESPHome over WiFi. They don't communicate with each other

sly owl
#

What kinda hardware is behind the "year of the voice"? Are there devices that can be used that pick up your voice as good as Google Home/Alexa?

zealous dune
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Any microphone picks up voice, it's the word recognition that's important

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That's what's being developed

livid briar
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does that mean that we will be able to choose our own trigger word ?

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Or that our assistants will be able to have different voices

zealous dune
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Possibly, but the focus is on actually recognizing words first

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Instead of training the system for each word you plan on using

livid briar
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Do you know what channels the development is discussed in ?

gloomy spoke
jagged crypt
unique lantern
spring island
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if i have a 12 volt battery, and a 12 volt light, and want to automate it. Is there any product on the market that will let me connect the battery, the light, and provide automation functionality within home assistant.

Oh actually I guess it would drain too fast maybe.... Like it would have to "call home" every few seconds, when I did that on a motionsensor it would drain like 50% in 1 day

hearty marsh
hearty marsh
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oof...yeah as i dig into this, i've got a bit too learn 🙂
Looks like you would use one ESP32 board of some sort (ideally rated for 24v input and can natively control a digital pot) and a digital potentiometer connected to the venstar thermostat to function as the "wired thermostat". Connect that setup to home assistant. Then use whatever remote temp sensor you want with HA. Have HA effectively relay the temperature readout to the ESP32 board. Then have the ESP32 board tweak the digital potentiometer to match the resistance values needed so the thermostat gets an "accurate reading".

If the sensor reading is a little off in the thermostat, no big deal. You can "calibrate" it within the thermostat.

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Am I way off here or does this seem like a reasonable approach (given the conversation above and my 30 minutes of digging into ESP)?

unique lantern
copper juniper
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with some optoisolation

pliant sparrow
#

Fun little challenge... which i'm sick of 😦

I have 4 hunter fans in my home. When I installed them I removed the light switches that toggled them on and off and only have the RF remotes.

One of the remotes had to be replaced, and well, due to the nature of how the programming process works, I need to cut the power from all the fans, then turn the intended fan on and hit a combination of buttons.

I was lazy. I now have 1 remote controlling 4.

In order to fix this idiot move, I need to program each fan with it's remote 12 times each in order to purge the other remote commands.

Anyone have a solution for a tiny switch I can leave inside the gangbox, under the blank face plate, that will make this problem A LOT easier to solve?

copper juniper
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3d print a cover for a normal gang switch to block it's use out?

pliant sparrow
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yeah, was afraid that'd be the solution. :/

copper juniper
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make the 3d cover host a RF switch of some sort too?

glossy prism
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Wait... did you know they have a 3D printer or were you just assuming? 😂

pliant sparrow
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Assuming 😂

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I haven't had one in a few years. House got a lot smaller when a kiddo came along...

copper juniper
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I've got access to one at the local library

glossy prism
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I keep forgetting to check the library by me to see if they have one

hearty marsh
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the more i read it doesnt really work...nevermind that

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it would be cheaper to step the voltage down

unique lantern
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Specs say that takes 7 to 24V DC

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Thermostat wiring is going to be low voltage AC

copper juniper
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and then you see all the data lines are unprotected

hearty marsh
copper juniper
#

many times the lines need to be brought upto 24v

#

the control lines won't fire

#

24v signal in/ 24v signal out

unique lantern
pliant sparrow
copper juniper
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24v ac is 48v dc when rectified. then need to step down

hearty marsh
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Yeah this looks really doable. Going to do some more homework and price out a solution tomorrow. Thanks for the idea!!

unique lantern
#

I'm not an electrical engineer so I haven't quite worked out what it would all look like to get power from the 24V AC line. That part isn't even strictly necessary because you could power it from the wall with a normal power adapter, it'd just look neater if you do it via the thermostat wires

copper juniper
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next up you need relays or such and mosfets to control the relays from the data lines

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relays need more power then the chip can provide

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so mosfets are used

unique lantern
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I don't think any relays are needed because all you're doing is adjusting a digital potentiometer to trick the thermostat into thinking you're a temperature sensor

copper juniper
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why not just replace the whole system?

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digital pot may or maynot work

unique lantern
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No reason you can't do that, it's just a bigger project because you also have to duplicate the other things that the thermostat does. The Generic Thermostat integration covers the basics, but most thermostats have options for example to preheat the house so it reaches your setpoint by a specific time, usually by learning how long it takes to go up X degrees. That's all doable to replicate, just takes time and tinkering

hearty marsh
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the house is a ranch so generally speaking, heating and cooling is uniform throughout the home

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it would just be nice to have the thermostat run off the kids rooms at night

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and since i already have multisensors in the rooms, this could be a nice way to extend functionality that looks "native" to the thermostat

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if you were to control it manually

copper juniper
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yeah i hear you there multi room control is great

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I've been living is 2 and 3 story places with a single thermastate on the middle or lower lvel

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summer to hot; winter to cold

hearty marsh
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im all too familiar with that struggle

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i remember growing up at my parents place with my PC (w/ a CRT) in my room in the summer on the second floor.

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it got HOT

copper juniper
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psh only one?

hearty marsh
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winter was ok tho 😄

copper juniper
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I had 2-3 + a closet full of machines

hearty marsh
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oof

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that's a hot room 😄

copper juniper
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now to add to that I have grow lights making even more heat

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use lights for heat all winter

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and have a nice troptical paradice

hearty marsh
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given the layout of my house, i will be able to drop the wires from the thermostat remote wired sensor into my basement and do all the work down there outside of the wall (and still keep things hidden)

unique lantern
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Yeah I just meant in terms of designing the circuit, rectifying from AC to DC, stepping down the voltage, etc, to make sure the ESP doesn't release the magic blue smoke

hearty marsh
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hahaha

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gotcha

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i need to find the proper ESP module/board setup that would work well for this...seems like there are a lot of options

unique lantern
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They make POE powered ESPs. If you have easy access to drop wires, you could always drop an ethernet cable

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My thermostat is in an awkward spot where I'd have to make a few holes to run anything to it, so powering off the 24V would be the only sane option for me

midnight ibex
#

Hey there,
Anyone has a Touch Surface Air? How is it? Can it be integrated to HA? Is it reliable? Any cheaper alternatives?:D
It is a smart capacitive switch that you can mount behind stuff. It is a hidden switch.

gentle fossil
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Surface (Macbook) Air?

unique lantern
gentle fossil
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fancy

hearty marsh
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POE powered ESP sounds promising

midnight ibex
unique lantern
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There's no Loxone integration built-in. If you do a search here, people have talked about it a few times but otherwise I've never heard of the company. Maybe there's some third party integration

midnight ibex
unique lantern
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It seems to just be a big 5 button capacitive touch remote. You could probably build something similar with an ESP board and some capacitive touch sensors for a fraction of the cost

gentle fossil
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it senses through surfaces. I'd expect it to be anything but reliable - very depending of where you put it

unique lantern
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According to their data sheet it will go through up to 30mm thick surfaces ¯_(ツ)_/¯

gentle fossil
#

I want to see that. 200 moneys is too much though just to try 😄

midnight ibex
hearty marsh
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The solution will likely need to be modified but the general idea is laid out pretty clear it seems.

unique lantern
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Nice, I snagged a copy of the zip in case it gets lost to the internet

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Unfortunately can't archive.org the download link because it doesn't know how to get the file

sly owl
obtuse saffron
#

is there a HDMI switch / splitter that can be triggered via HA?

azure ether
#

Does a new dongle require every device to be repaired to it? I ordered one of the new Matter+Zigbee HA dongles, so once it eventually ships, Im wondering what the migration will look like.
Mainly concerned about automations losing all of their devices/switches/state checks due to HA seeing the newly paired devices as different devices from the old one

glossy prism
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If you don't use Device triggers/conditions/actions you can easily fix automations by just making the entity ID of the new device the same as what the old device was

obsidian root
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Sorry for dumb question

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Simple example i renamed my phone (in the phone OS settings) and it made my entities unavailable, and created a new device in HA like if I had a new phone. I had to update all my dashboard to renew the entities IDs ..

uncut spire
#

i can not open home asistant from my tablets, i can use apk and it work perfectly but trying to make fully kisosk work and non of my tablet work.. ip and adress both not working

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not:ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

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is the error i get

unique lantern
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That's a DNS error. What address are you entering?

uncut spire
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:8123/

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ip and .local

unique lantern
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I'm not following what you mean. You're entering an IP + .local?

uncut spire
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and my local ip:8123

unique lantern
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The first one can fail due to mDNS being not great, which is the error you got. What's the error if you use the IP instead?

uncut spire
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same error in both

unique lantern
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That doesn't make any sense because an IP address is not using DNS. You wouldn't get a DNS error with an IP

willow timber
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please show the entire ip:port string you're using

uncut spire
willow timber
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have you tried with http:// instead of https:// ? or did you set up https and you're wanting to use it

uncut spire
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sorry 192

uncut spire
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i didnt put anything, and browser put https defutly

willow timber
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ahh, gotcha

uncut spire
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thank you so much

willow timber
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no problem, glad to help

uncut spire
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about tasmota is this the right place to ask

gloomy elbow
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Tasmota has its own Discord 🙂

outer knotBOT
uncut spire
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thanksss

drifting grove
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I got a cheap Yowhick wifi enabled projector from Amazon and HA automatically discovered it as an Apple TV?

gloomy elbow
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If it has AirPlay support, that seems plausible 🙂

drifting grove
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Oh I see, it's related to airplay. Thanks.

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Hi, I want to know how to connect vaillant vr920 or my ecotek device to home assistant?

winged knoll
reef cedar
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If anyone is interested the moes wifi motion smart switch is based on the esp8266ex

MOES Smart Motion Sensor Switch Single Pole, Needs Neutral Wire, Wi-Fi PIR Infrared Motion Activated Light Switch, Smart Life Tuya APP Remote Control Compatible with Alexa and Google, FCC Listed https://a.co/d/fWpb4Wx

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I can't add the picture of the board. Easy to solder pins, tho i need to see which one is gpio0

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Vcc grd rx and tx are easy to get to

unique lantern
glossy prism
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There's also header holes you can use instead of soldering

unique lantern
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Depending on where the holes are positioned, test hooks work great. Made it super easy to flash a Sonoff S31

glossy prism
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No clippy bois this time unfortunately. It's a 2x3 grid

jagged crypt
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I paid for some pre-flashed s31's off of ebay awhile back, super easy 🙂 (sadly i don't see them anymore)

unique lantern
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Well, that motion switch is $6 cheaper from Cloudfree than the Moes one and it comes pre-flashed

jagged crypt
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and looks like cloudfree sells tasmota preflashed s31's, yay

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I'm happy to pay someone $5 to preflash the units

unique lantern
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Yeah, it's a great little shop. I've bought a bunch of stuff from there

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I'm waiting till they add a 3-way switch so I can replace my Wemo switches that have been slowly getting buggier

hallow whale
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?issue compiling - Bluetooth proxies in HA running in Rasberry Pi 3: I have been using bluetooth proxies in Home Assistant since December (M5 Atom Lites). I've updated the Home Assistant core to the latest version 2023.1.0 this is now generating a warning saying I need to update the proxies to ESPHome 2022.12.0 or later, but when I attempt to do this via the ESPHome add-on's Web UI, the update fails. Any tips on how to get the updates to succeed? See attached. Plus read elsewhere could it be my RPi itself making inability to install the code for the update? I’m a novice so all help appreciated.

hallow whale
gloomy elbow
hallow whale
gloomy elbow
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Plug the ESP into the computer to flash it 🙂

hallow whale
# gloomy elbow Plug the ESP into the computer to flash it 🙂

Thank you! I’m running a Rasberry Pi 3 for my HA installation. I use my desktop via Ethernet to login to my RPi HA installation. I presume I plug the Atom Lite into my desktop via USB and then flash it. However, I’m not sure how to ‘flash it’ properly. I’ve tried using the HA ESPHome add-on Web UI on my desktop using Chrome to update the Atom Lite which was directly connected via USB, but it said that conditions weren’t met (I can provide more information if helpful). Is there some other way that doesn’t use the HA ESPHome add-on Web UI to update/flash my Atom Lite? Thanks again!

unique lantern
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You flash it over serial the same way you did when you first bought it and set it up through ESPHome. Depending on the type of board, sometimes you have to hold a boot button or similar to put it in flashing mode

solemn falcon
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Hey!
I have 2 large decorative dimmable lightbulbs which unfortunately are not smart in any way.

I am looking for a way to make them smart using Homeassistant and I strongly prefer local control.

Does someone have a tip, blog video, info or product to help me make a step forward?

Thanks!!

winged knoll
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Zigbee

glossy prism
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Smart dimmer?

outer knotBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
solemn falcon
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Yeah zigbee would be the protocol of choice.
I kind of get lost when browsing smart dimmers on Amazon, AliExpress etc.

Any tips on what to look out for?

unique lantern
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WiFi switches that are easily flashable or pre-flashed with Tasmota are also great choices

winged knoll
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Your options depend on which country you're in

solemn falcon
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The Netherlands

hallow whale
# unique lantern You flash it over serial the same way you did when you first bought it and set i...

@gloomy elbow thanks to you both for your input. Alrighty I've connected the Atom Lite successfully to my HA Rasberry Pi serial USB port and attempted to update it there with the entire house's WiFi disabled (so it wasn't choosing WiFI to do OTA, but had to try directly). The ESPHHome add-on Web UI terminal window goes through the same process as previously, with the same errors have occurred as in this image from earlier https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060695866358374471/1060699661863751710/image.png - as I said I am a novice, but it keeps referring to a failure of the C Compiler. Any ideas on how I can get it to have a working C Compiler, or how I can get the correct update file, as it seems that whatever 'file' it is sourcing from the internet to update my Atom Lite is itself the problem and corrupted? Thanks for any and all help 🙂

tacit pilot
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For ESP32 devices, is there any downside to the smaller D1 Mini vs the larger WROOM? Particularly performance, compatibility, etc.

winged knoll
tacit pilot
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Thx

upper current
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dumb question. I have a bunch of bluetooth devices i want to connect up to my HA Yellow. Where my HA is, the bluetooth connection won't reach the devices. Is there a way to create an inexpensive repeater?

winged knoll
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bunch of usb devices ... the bluetooth connection won't reach the devices

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I'm confused... are they USB or Bluetooth?

upper current
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whoops

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meant bluetooth

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i was just looking at USB BT Dongles 🙂

winged knoll
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You're looking for the ESPHome Bluetooth proxy

upper current
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thats exactly what i need

winged knoll
upper current
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thank you!

daring steppe
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Hey guys, I live in a big apartment building. I would like to be notified when my doorbell (a couple of stories below) is pressed.
I'm pretty sure my doorbell is wireless, does anyone know whether there's a way to detect that my doorbell is ringing by placing some sort of detector near my receiver? I'd prefer not to open that up and attach something to its internals because I don't own it 😄

willow timber
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I would start by finding a brand or something to start searching and figure out the technology used

wind vector
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My wife suddenly wants RGB bulbs in the bedroom. My only current fixture is the ceiling fan that I have hooked up to a Caseta dimmer switch and a Caseta fan switch. Only Lutron Caseta in the whole house with everything else being Kasa. Only got the Caseta for the fan specific dimmer. I was likely going to go with kasa rgb bulbs. Should I leave the Caseta dimmer, swap with a Kasa switch, or put in a dummy switch? Me and my wife mostly use the Hass dashboard to control things.

daring steppe
shut vine
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I am looking for a WiFi speaker. Can I just use a Google Home Mini to locally(!) play media on it via HA? I mean I would want to take it 100% offline and just use it as a offline WiFi speaker

winged knoll
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You can, but if you take it 100% offline it stops working

gloomy elbow
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You could look at something like the ESPMuse

tacit pilot
winged knoll
tacit pilot
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Haha actually it's not 👉 😎 👉

winged knoll
tacit pilot
winged knoll
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That bit of text at the top, and the arrow, all about the message I was replying to

image.png
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Hint ... NOT YOU

tacit pilot
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Oh interesting, haven't seen that before. Thought it was something to do with your message

cedar bay
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Are there any good methods to use old iPhone as a media player? I found an iOS app called TV Assist that advertises itself as a DLNA media server, but it's not that great. Looking for one that can fool iOS into not sleeping.

amber frigate
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Hey guys. Just joined. Have been considering setting up home assistant for my home system for a while and have some questions, some pertaining to hardware. I recently found an HP 260 G1 with an i3 4030U and 4GB ram in the trash (lol) though I'm unsure if it works. Am wondering if that would be enough to run HA. I can add another DIMM as well Unfortunately i don't have a power brick for it but I'm sure I could find one online. I'm just wondering whether it's worth the effort, or if I should buy something else.

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I saw an Intel NUC NUC5CPYH for seale online for about 100 eur which seems viable, but now that I'm actually writing down the specs for it looks like it's kinda just a straight downgrade from this thing I have here... if it works

winged knoll
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The HP 260 is about twice as powerful as a Pi4

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The NUC is ... slower than a Pi4, meaningfully slower

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I don't want to say potato, but ... potato

amber frigate
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Lol ok that's pretty clear cut

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So since i'm migrating from a hue hub and don't really have much beyond some lights, I'm guessing I would need just that & a zigbee usb dongle, right? Most of it is just software?

winged knoll
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Yes, you would

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Something CC2652 based if you want to use either Zigbee2MQTT (external to HA) or ZHA (built into HA)

amber frigate
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Is there a 'better' option?

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as in out of those two

winged knoll
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It's very much personal choice

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If you're lucky and all your devices are Zigbee standards compliant then ZHA is a better choice

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For the other 99% of the time Zigbee2MQTT usually works out better

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I like Z2M since it's external from HA, decoupling everything

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Others like ZHA because it's one less thing to manage

amber frigate
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I don't think I have any bizarre devices or demands, mostly I really want it to be stable after I've set it up. Don't mind a little more setup time if that means I don't have to faff with it later, so I guess Z2M is the better choice for me?

winged knoll
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Probably, and you can switch if you change your mind (at least, before you've paired too many devices)

amber frigate
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Oh I misread your message anyway, the CC2652 does both

winged knoll
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Yes

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And depressingly few Zigbee devices actually follow the Zigbee specs

amber frigate
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Conbee II ok with the firmware downgrade? I see most sellers for other ones are in US or china and have long shipping times

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I can get that locally with next day delivery

winged knoll
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It's not the worst choice... not the best choice either

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I said CC2652 for a reason, and there's also a reason it's not in the recommended list in the link I provided

amber frigate
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It's in the 'other' bit under recommended on that list 😃

winged knoll
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Yeah... it works, mostly

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Horribly sensitive to interference

amber frigate
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bleugh

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Alright that one's out then

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Okay found the slae.sh one also sold locally 👍

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Now just need to cross my fingers that this computer I literally found at the garbage dump actually works lmao

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Thank you for your quick help!

sterile forge
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Has anyone here used Shelly 1L (no neutral version)?

tacit burrow
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Just bought another thinkcentre for another proxmox. More playing!

hallow whale
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failure updating bluetooth proxies with latest ESPHome

eager plaza
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Hey all, trying to decide on a door bell cam that I can expand to use other cams later, is hikvision well supported in home assistant?

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Limited choice in SA

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I do have sonoff switches etc so could use slim cam but they don't do a doorbell cam

slow orbit
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hi all I am not able to connect bme280 with esp01s... no signals comming in... can anyone help me?

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using gpio0 and gpio2

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for i2c communication

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bme modul is working well on arduino uno

shut vine
eager plaza
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Hey all, trying to decide on a door bell cam that I can expand to use other cams later, is hikvision well supported in home assistant?

gloomy spoke
tacit pilot
marsh swift
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Hi, i would love to automate my electric blinds, but i don't have any neutral wire.

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i wasn't able to find switches online as they all require neutral wire

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any ideas on the hardware i can use ?

unique lantern
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Need more details. How are they controlled, what are they powered by, etc?

marsh swift
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by electric blind i meant a roller shutter*

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i know that normal switches exists without neutral but it seems that it's not the case for roller shutter

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tldr: i need a relay / new switch like this one but i don't have neutral https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005003123388237.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.51285f97eHKxAz&algo_pvid=7db4433b-0f01-4579-937d-0690c3b506f1&aem_p4p_detail=202301070948551277573519036700008277267&algo_exp_id=7db4433b-0f01-4579-937d-0690c3b506f1-0&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"12000029589557642"}&pdp_npi=2%40dis!EUR!30.33!15.16!!!!!%40214527c616731137350957220d0702!12000029589557642!sea&curPageLogUid=0HpwcxfqwBdv&ad_pvid=202301070948551277573519036700008277267_1&ad_pvid=202301070948551277573519036700008277267_1

winged knoll
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FYI you can usually remove everything after the ?

unique lantern
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You may be able to install the module near the curtains where there would be a neutral, rather than behind the switch

marsh swift
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as the electricity goes to the switch first then module

unique lantern
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Often times when there's a neutral on the load side, the way it's wired up is the hot and neutral are both in the box, the neutral is wired to the load, the hot is sent off to a switch and doubles back to the load. You'd already have a hot wire in that box which can be wired into the module as per the diagram

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You'll have to open up the motor side's electrical box and verify how that's wired

marsh swift
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Thanks now everything seems clear to me !

maiden veldt
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Hi, everyone! I am having a bit of an issue with accessing the webui of my new Shelly Plus devices. Not visiting the IP-locally of course, but through their external address. I have set up subdomains with duckdns and proxies with certificates in Nginx...I do get the loading screen when visiting the address, stating "Connecting to shelly and loading data...", but it can stay like this forever.
I've got a few of the Gen1 devices from Shelly already and they're set up exactly the same in nginx.
Could it be a certificate issue, I am getting nowhere and went through whatever I could find by searching

void spear
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Are there any smart buttons that can do more than the standard 3 actions?

gloomy elbow
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Yes. Many. It depends what your budget is, what protocols you want to use, what you want them to look like and where in the world you are though.

void spear
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I'm using Zigbee mainly but would be open for a different protocol

gloomy elbow
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Aqara have lots of buttons. Their Opple switches for example.

void spear
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I'll check them out, I didn't realize they had more than the one. Thanks!

unique lantern
void spear
jagged crypt
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the ikea tradfri remote (round) is more comfortable in your hand, and technically has 5 buttons (that can be mulit-press)

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they're about $15 if you can grab them at ikea

unique lantern
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Looks like it might be discontinued because it's nowhere to be found on the US website and all the bundles come with a Styrbar or just the on/off dimmer remote. The Strybar is nice because the on/up button has a deep indentation that's easy to feel for in the dark

void spear
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Thank you both, I like those but I was hoping to find a single button with more than 3 actions.

gentle fossil
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many remotes let you load multiple triggers for one button (hold, hold_click, double_click, etc...)

vague sundial
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Is the Raspberry Pi Zero W decent enough to run HA as a starter?

unique lantern
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no

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I don't think it would even boot

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If you want to try HA without committing to buying hardware, you can install it on an old desktop/laptop or a VM on your current PC

vague sundial
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What’s the go to device to install HA on? I’ve seen chatter about PI4s, NUCs and NAS’ but with the price of things now it’s hard to tell what to buy now

unique lantern
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I would avoid all of those. You can get a great small form factor PC from eBay for ~$100 or less

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Things like a Dell Optiplex can draw < 10W and far more powerful than a pi

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You just need to do some research on the power draw of the processors because you can end up with some 90W TDP monstrosity that will negate any benefit of buying used hardware

vague sundial
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Any recommendations on the processor from your experience?

unique lantern
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https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?&_nkw=dell 3050 i3-7100t

Something like these. A good aim for buying used would be probably ~5-6 years old or newer, and for any Intel processor if you just search ARK <processor model> you'll get the full spec sheet including the TDP which give you a rough idea of how much power it can draw. That model has a 25W TDP but it can idle around 7W

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Modern processors are much more power efficient at idle than if you used something like a 10 year old PC you had in a closet

glossy prism
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But in general, a laptop from within the last 10 years also makes a great HA host

unique lantern
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Yeah, a 10 year old laptop is going to be much more efficient than a desktop of the same vintage

jagged crypt
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i5-6500t SFF "lenovo tiny"

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15watt draw running proxmox on nvme + 16gigs ram w/ two VM's HAOS as one, and a simple linux VM running DHCP/DNS.

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60watt max psu

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never seen it peak past 25 except at boot up for ~30 seconds

unique lantern
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6th gen Intel is probably the oldest I'd go buying used

jagged crypt
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yup, i5-6500t has remote management as a bonus

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about $100-$150 in the US

unique lantern
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I can't remember what the HP line of SFF stuff is, but Dell, Lenovo, or HP are all going to have things in the same category

jagged crypt
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yah, the servethehome url above lists the other makes

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also if you have a local ikea, go and see if they have a round controller, I like the hand feel a LOT better than the strybars

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they are on ebay for around $20 or $25 also

vague sundial
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I have a early 2015 13” MacBook Pro that I could utilise for the time being I guess

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But those Lenovo pcs seems pretty decent

unique lantern
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I keep mine flat on the table and press it in the dark, but I could see the round one being better if you were holding it a lot

jagged crypt
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jumbers, yea I use them for media control, if you are sticking it to a table, far less important

unique lantern
jagged crypt
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it's just buttons

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btw, the round one has a raised bit on the controller in the center to help you find top/bottom alignment

unique lantern
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The Symfonisk has 7 buttons though which you could bind to other things, the· and ·· buttons below back/forward

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Might take a bit for it to get added to Z2M though

jagged crypt
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personal preference, just adding some data about the others for you.

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I use ZHA, added double clicks to the blueprint i found for the round controller

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this is probably a zigbee or general question, but do people use z2m because ZHA didn't exist until recently?

winged knoll
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#zigbee-archived would be the place, and it's more nuanced than that. Mostly it's about what people prefer

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Z2M has a wider userbase and so support for odd/new devices is usually quicker there, but not always

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Those who want to use Zigbee with more than just HA will tend to prefer Z2M - for instance people who mostly use Node Red

gleaming slate
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What light bulbs do you recommend using with ZigBee / WLAN without hub? I'm in Germany and have the budget to get good ones. Just not 100 bucks please.

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I need dimming and rgb

winged knoll
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Ikea Tradfri bulbs are reasonably priced and reasonable quality

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Hue are the gold standard, but cost it

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Innr's are also good

unique lantern
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If you want WiFi, look for anything pre-flashed with Tasmota or ESPHome

gleaming slate
unique lantern
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You'd need a Zigbee coordinator stick. The hubs from IKEA et al are mostly for vendor lock-in

gleaming slate
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So I can use them without issues without an IKEA hub?

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If so, I'll order a few right now

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Also, what power plugs would you recommend for simple on/off and power measurement?

unique lantern
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Do you have a Zigbee coordinator already?

gleaming slate
jagged crypt
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i've been happy with sengled power monitoring zigbee units, with zha, and sonoff-e stick, routing the ikea buttons 🙂

unique lantern
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Through ZHA or Z2M?

gleaming slate
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z2m

unique lantern
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ok yeah then you should be good to get the IKEA bulbs

gleaming slate
jagged crypt
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sonoff s31 pre-flashed with esphome or tasmota for wifi (cloud free shop)
Sengled E1C-NB7 for zigbee. Of course, that's effectively the only ones i have, and they work.

gleaming slate
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Do the Innr power plugs report usage too?

winged knoll
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They don't, the Salus do

gleaming slate
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ah shit

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some that are available in Germany with ZigBee

jagged crypt
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was going to suggest athom.tech, but they are wifi

slate stream
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I have the innr whitetone bulbs. Work very well. But i hear the white plus color give a pinkish warm white?

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I was looking for those but after a review im reluctant

summer shell
unique lantern
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I would probably just use CT clamps

summer shell
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Hmm, is there a recommended unit? I have two panels, one is 32 slots and fully hence the second over to a smaller panel.

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Also my panel(s) are in the same room, like 4-5 feet from my HA unit

unique lantern
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How many circuits do you actually want to monitor out of those 32? The Emporia Vue has 16 inputs

summer shell
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Can you do more than one Vue unit?

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There are quite a few I want to monitor

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At least 4-5 in the smaller panel and maybe 25 in the larger one

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Plus the two mains

unique lantern
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How many amps do you have coming in? The main clamps are 200A and the individual circuit clamps are 50A. I think if you had 2 units, you just wouldn't use the main clamps in the subpanel

summer shell
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I am 200A

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I think the biggest circuit I may have is 50A or 60A for my large AC unit.

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Do the clamps also show current watts?

unique lantern
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It plugs into 2 circuits to get the voltage and power itself, so it can measure watts since it's just volts * amps (also times power factor but 🤷)

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Fully local if you flash ESPHome

lime pike
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Hello.
I have a sonoff zigbee dongle perfectly functioning.

I am trying to pair an Aqara door & window contact sensor (MCCGQ11LM). The device is recognized but i do not get any information ... All is unknowm. How can I solve this?

gloomy spoke
bold leaf
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@summer shell
I have had my dryer hooked up to one of those for several years. Also had a CurrentCost device monitoring the mains in the panel. I often debated getting one for my range but never did. Then car charging came along and getting 2 of the Aeotec switches was getting expensive. So, my search began for a cheaper solution, and I landed on EmporiaVue flashed with ESPHome. I have 16 circuit monitoring clamps + 2 mains clamps on my 200A split-phase service. For 240v circuits you only need 1 clamp on one phase and configure it with a x2 multiplier (not exact but very close to using 2 individual clamps). I am using single clamps with the multiplier for monitoring my 240V dryer, range and car charging.
I'm in Canada...

unique lantern
bold leaf
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It's close. In HA, I automate switching between the steps based on usage in billing cycle. I used an offset of day "12" in my monthly meters but the actual billing date can vary a little from month to month depending on what day they read the meter. December was the 8th, November was the 10th. All they tell me is "on or around"!
Your next meter reading is on or around Jan 10, 2023.

unique lantern
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That's good to hear then. I know if you get cheapo CT clamps they can be fairly inaccurate

elfin temple
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Anyone tips on a good microinverter (600W) that has a local API (that is also supported in HA) and no cloud bullshit? Preferably a german shop, europe would be okay though.

verbal onyx
elfin temple
keen saffron
split kiln
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Any recommendations on an upgrade from RPI that isn't going to cost a significant amount?

woeful laurel
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So I'm currently trying to move my home to a more open and secure IOT setup. Does anyone have any smart speaker recommendations that work really well with HA, allow Apple Music and are preferably have voice control?

unique lantern
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You can find good used machines with low power draw for ~$100

split kiln
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Thanks, ill take a look. Think i'm finally ready to give up with the pi

unique lantern
tacit pilot
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I've seen whole home power monitoring via CT clamps, but could these be used on any power cable? For instance, my dryer doesn't have a standard plug so I can't use a normal smart plug to monitor it's power. Could I use a CT clamp for this instead?

unique lantern
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Yes and no. You have to split the cable so that it's only going over the hot wire. If you put it around the entire cable you will get nothing

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If it's a preformed cable, splitting it isn't a good idea

fringe crater
uncut ridge
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Hi all, looking at the list of bluetooth adapters, it looks like "Feasycom FSC-BP119 (CSR8510A10)" is one of the better high performance long range ones. But...where the heck do you buy it at?

unique lantern
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Dryer runs on 240V 30A usually, so you'd need something far beefier than that

tacit pilot
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How does this one that @fringe crater linked worked without you needing to split it?

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That seems like a fundamental thing to how those CT clamps work. How does this one just not require it?

fringe crater
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That's not a CT clamp, its just a piece of plastic with hot down one side, and neutral on the other.

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you wrap a clamp around one side.

tacit pilot
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Oh interesting I see. So the wire doesn't go through that hole. You (could) wrap a CT clamp around one side of the loop?

unique lantern
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Right, but that's a 120V 15A plug so it wouldn't work in your scenario

tacit pilot
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Yes

unique lantern
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You can get something like a Shelly EM if you just want to monitor 1 circuit and put that in the breaker box, but it's fairly expensive for only being able to monitor 1 circuit. An Emporia Vue 2 does whole house monitoring of 8 or 16 circuits for just about double the cost of a Shelly EM

tacit pilot
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What's the name of this though? So I can try to google for one that's 240V?

fringe crater
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line splitter

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would be curious if one even exists for 30A. kind of a niche item.

tacit pilot
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Are these the same thing?

unique lantern
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no

red ore
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guys, can you please give me an advice which I need to buy? Since I just start everything from ground, I can choose which to buy:
skyconnect or sonoff 3.0 zigbee stuff?

tacit pilot
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Didn't think so. The ports wouldn't make sense anyway

unique lantern
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That's basically the same idea as a power strip

tacit pilot
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Kinda hard to google for this with those things around

unique lantern
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I doubt it exists. That line splitter is more of a diagnostic tool that you plug in, check the power draw of a single device and remove. You wouldn't really see something like that for a 240V 30A circuit. An electrician would just put a clamp around one of the hot wires in the breaker if they really wanted to check the draw of a dryer

tacit pilot
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Yeah just trying to stay out of the breaker. I rent and have access, but also for safety reasons

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Isn't splitting the cable fairly straightforward? I believe the cable has a crease down the middle. I thought it was just as simple as cutting that

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Or I would think they'd make like extension cords that are pre-split or easily splitable?

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This one says 240v?

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The prongs are wrong though

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but I would think there would be converters?

unique lantern
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Don't mess around with cutting 240V cables to get a clamp on it. That can easily kill somebody if there's the insulation is damaged, plus you damage the structural integrity of the cable

tacit pilot
unique lantern
tacit pilot
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What about that one I linked above though. Says it's for 240v

unique lantern
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actually nevermind, it looked like a plug from the first pic but I see further down it's actually a contactor

tacit pilot
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The amp rating might be too low though

unique lantern
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No, you can't use that either. It has a NEMA 5-15 plug/socket and it's rated for 15A. If you somehow managed to connect it, it would likely melt the plastic and catch fire

tacit pilot
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Yeah dryer says it's 28 amps

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Oh well. Guess I'll keep using my vibration sensor for the dryer lol

golden oyster
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golden oyster
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Gotcha. Was just confused. I use the Aeotec on my dryer just fine

unique lantern
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Without being allowed to open the breaker box or rewire it through something like that switch, there's probably not many safe options

golden oyster
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Yeah there aren’t going to be many options if you can’t touch the wiring

flat nebula
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I have a Bluetooth speaker, and running HAOS inside Proxmox, is it possible to use this as a speaker from HA?

winged knoll
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drifting grove
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Hi. I’m quiet new to IoT and home-automation setup, and I have a question.
I bought some Mijia  2 thermometers/hygrometers. I flashed them with the PVVX firmware successfully. I managed to setup an MQTT broker and successfully ran Theengs gateway to publish current values of thermomether to Home Assistant. However, this setup requires that 3 of them, Theengs, MQTT and Home Assistant are continuously running. I know that Mijia thermomether can store "historical" values in memory and that you can access them in "batch".
Is there a way to push these batch values to home assistant ?
If not, what is the best solution to do a setup like : periodically (once a day or week) pull the datas, push them somewhere, and display some nice charts ? Does it exists some "gold standard" stacks or do I need to develop my own Bluetooth app to pull data and push them to more generic TSDB (influxDB, prometheus) ?

unique lantern
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The PVVX firmware natively supports the BTHome protocol which can then be picked up by ESPHome bluetooth proxies

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The thermometers just constantly send out bluetooth low energy beacons with their current status and the BT proxies will pick them up and forward them to Home Assistant

drifting grove
unique lantern
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Continuously fed to HA and then you can do whatever you want with the data. Mine goes to Prometheus and I have temperature data for over a year

winged knoll
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Home Assistant isn't designed to work that way

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If you want periodic backfilling of data, HA is the wrong tool

drifting grove
unique lantern
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You can ultimately accomplish the same goal, but it's not the implementation you're asking for. A continuous feed of data flowing into a timeseries database is going to have the same end result of giving you historical data

drifting grove
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Yeah, the end result will be the same, but it requires to have, home assistant, MQTT broker and BLE proxy constantly running too. And this is a thing that I don’t want (because currently I don’t have all the device that I need to setup this).
So I was looking for another solution.
Thanks you for your answer, I will search for what I’m looking for. I’ll come back to HA when it will better fit my needs.

unique lantern
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MQTT wouldn't be required for the proxy, but yes you're correct that HA and the BT proxy would need to run constantly

void badger
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has anyone had success controlling Hatch Rest devices via HomeAssistant?

oak nexus
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$100 vs $600

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Just need a buck so I can DC to DC power it

unique lantern
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Nice

oak nexus
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Since I'm mobile, I can't use spinning rust anyway, a single 8TB SSD should do me

unique lantern
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Those USFF PCs tend to use laptop chargers from the same brand, so there may be a Dell 12V DC to DC charger for it

oak nexus
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I'm just gonna solder my own 🙂

mental lintel
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I have coral TPU unit, mPCI connector.
Now I am moving from NUC to ATX mainboard.

I have got one adapter I could find, but it does not work. Tried it on two computers, both does not boot (does not start, does not boot to bios).
Can you recommend any adapter that can do the job?
I need miniPCIe to PCIe 1x

keen snow
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Hi all, for some time now I am trying to connect a Bluetooth adapter to my VirtualBox VM. The ultimate goal is not to use this adapter, but for all my ESP32/Shelly Bluetooth proxies to forward the bluetooth info to HA.

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The adapter is needed (if I am not mistaken) to allow the bluetooth integration in the first place

winged knoll
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You don't need Bluetooth in HA for that

keen snow
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Do tell....

winged knoll
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I think it's @crimson tulip that's got that setup going

keen snow
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How would I enable Bluetooth integration in HA without an adapter, then?

winged knoll
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Well, the proxy stuff does magic

keen snow
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I have 2 shellyGen2 and 3 ESP32s in proxy mode

crimson tulip
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just add bluetooth: in your configuration.yaml

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and you're done

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literally

worn ginkgo
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Hey all, I need an advice.

I am currently running my HA in VirtualBox VM on an my old ASUS GL552VW, which is probably major overkill for just lights and sensors, no cameras 😄

I have a Zigbee dongle already and being a laptop it has a battery so yay EPS.

Is there any point in me going for a HA Yellow, apart from form factor? I may get a new dongle with Thread once more popular, so that is not a problem.

winged knoll
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It'll be a step-down

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At least if you run it on an SSD it'll not be a trainwreck, but ... just don't

worn ginkgo
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Its no an old gaming laptop lol 1tb disk, 250SSD, 16RAM, the works 🤣

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it has some silly bios sound issues that no one would buy with, so hence why its sitting around

high plover
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are there any other wall panels to look at other than NSPanel Pro?

static verge
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Hey, I'm using meross smart plugs and have been trying to tie them to the server directly rather than by using meross cloud server. I tried using the connector app, but it never found anything.

Also, is there a way to detect if a device has lost connectivity in a short amount of time and "count it" as off rather than let it time out over a long time and "count it" as unknown?

keen snow
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@crimson tulip, I've added the bluetooth: into the config, rebooted the HA to no effect.

crimson tulip
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if you have the proxies with bluetooth enabled on them, they should start pulling in BLE devices

keen snow
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It booted just fine, but I don't see a Bluetooth box in the integration page, nor I can 'add' the integration as if I'd plug them in

crimson tulip
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keep in mind, this is a big keep in mind, not all bluetooth devices will work

crimson tulip
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you now add devices like any other integration

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i.e. find the integration for your device and add it

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if your device does not have an integration, you can't use that device in HA

keen snow
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Ok, I went to add Sensirion BLE sensor - no dice
The integration opens a blank window and I can close it, but nothing more

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esp32_ble_tracker:
  scan_parameters:
    interval: 1100ms
    window: 1100ms
    active: true

bluetooth_proxy:
  active: true
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I have these in all my ESPs around the house, but not devices being picked up.

crimson tulip
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and the device is close to your esp32 and it's on?

keen snow
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20cm maybe

crimson tulip
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ok, and what's the update frequency of that ble sensor?

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cause it'll only appear when that device sends a blast out

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other than that, there's not much to it

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and that device should be auto detected

keen snow
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Not sure what I am doing wrong.

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The Bluetooth symbol is blinking from time to time, so I guess this indicates pushing out the reading.

crimson tulip
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are there errors in your logs?

keen snow