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ruby rain
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Looks like it possible, any specific min version?

jagged crypt
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widdin, i think the polite answer is "you probably can, but there are far easier ways to run HA, that can be almost as inexpensive"

ruby rain
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Sure, but as the ATV is just laying around I don't mind trying it out. I have a dev-background so it's not a new area 😄

jagged crypt
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@tender aurora the afidus says 5 second intervals can go for 39 hours, 1minute intervals mean 25 days. Lithium batteries are impacted by the cold, so swapping out every 2-3 weeks.

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Widdin, if you have the background to install linux on it, go for it and try it out

zealous dune
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all you need to have is at least python 3.9

ruby rain
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Cheers (y)

zealous dune
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and reasonable amount of ram (2gb) and storage

jagged crypt
ruby rain
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Yeah the x96 is 2gb ram and 16gb storage (32 is prolly recommended but it will do for now)

jagged crypt
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I had issues with doing much on a pi3b+, so the 2gb ram is important

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and by "much" it was fine when i was just watching lights and remotes. I added a few containers of addons and it crapped out. Though i think the pi3b is 1gig of ram.

ruby rain
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👍 , I'm just going to try HA out with a few amount of devices. Just got into the "smart home" thingys 😄

jagged crypt
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VM in something works pretty well also if you have the infrastructure

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i swapped out the pi3b for a vm in a proxmox + lenovo tiny

zealous dune
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if you got the device and skills use it, once you know you're into the smart home thingy you'll easily upgrade

minor cairn
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Hi all

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I just migrated my HA to a VM under TrueNAS Scale (KVM), they just released a version that has USB Passthrough (I have a Conbee II device for Zigbee). But for some reason it is not working. I do see the device listed in the hardware section. But I have doubts if it's working properly. Is there a way to check via CLI in Home Assistant if there are any issues with the device?

minor cairn
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I tried doing hw info, but it outputs a big list and there is no unix piping in this environment it seems to do less

dry skiff
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I have just picked up a raspberry pi 4 for cheap, would it run HA well? I'm currently running it in a truenas container on an old gaming computer

winged knoll
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It'll run it fine, particularly if you use an SSD

dry skiff
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Is that recommended over a microsd?

winged knoll
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Yes

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SD cards aren't designed for the abuse they get in a Pi, unless you buy one designed for it

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Typical SD cards will fail without warning, leaving you with a dead system

dry skiff
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I see, I will get an SSD now then, as its black friday, is there anything I need to look out for?

winged knoll
dry skiff
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Thank you 👍

spare fjord
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On that subject, a question about SSDs in HAOS on RPi4 - is it possible to use both the SD card and external (USB) SSD at the same time? I can see the option to move storage to the new drive, but in reality I'd have been quite happy just sticking the camera footage on it and leaving the rest on the SD card (which is a high endurance job and seems to work ok).

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Was hoping to see a second mount point for the SSD that I could point stuff at

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...but it seems that things don't work like this.

still sapphire
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https://imgur.com/a/cedQHXJ < inside a Tuya Zigbee water leak sensor (the sensor itself is basically just a long cord with two side by side electrodes on the end). Of note: the Tuya zigbee chip physically looks an awful lot like an ESP, and also: the PCB appears to have space for a reed switch, and my deduction is that this is essentially an adaptation of a door/window sensor. Which explains why it has a tamper switch which (at least in z2mtt) isn’t even exposed.

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(It seems to trigger pretty reliably — if I bridge the electrodes with a moist finger I immediately get a notification from the HAss app that it’s wet.)

bitter dove
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Hey there, just joined, I was looking at the forums but wondered if someone could help me more here. I am just now getting into HA, but I am looking into building a server system with Zigbee, Zwave, and a Frigate/Coral NVR setup. I am hoping to reuse a couple Samsung 960 pro m.2 drives if I can just as I have them, and maybe even a 1070 graphics card for hardware acceleration on the Frigate/Coral NVR side. I am wondering what kind of compact builds and motherboard setups people might recommend for this? Currently only have a few Utech Zwave Ubolt Pro smart locks for the house/detached garage. I was hoping to have a setup for home security with wifi failover to cellular data SimCard. I have a couple extra newer ASUS routers lying around as well so I am wondering if I can use those over other options. I plan to mostly have POE cameras and still havent bought a doorbell cam but that will likely be the first one aside from the current Blink camera I have but maybe reuse somehow. I know this is a very open ended subjective question as to what to use but I would appreciate any insight. I am thinking something with multiple m.2 connectivity would be a good start and maybe thinking about storing video on a NAS hybrid 3.5" hard drive if that even makes sense still? I have a 2TB seagate sitting around that I could put to use for more long term video storage. I plan to eventually get more cameras so I know the hardware might come into play more then.

sand pier
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Would a Crucial BX500 be an acceptable purchase to run HA + Frigate? It's cheap and it looks like it would fit inside my existing case.

I need to increase my storage so I can record using Frigate.

zealous dune
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why not, its an ssd

vapid flume
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I’m still waiting for my coral

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Seems to be stuck in shipping in one location for a week now

bitter dove
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yeah I opted for the USB one for now

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I am pricing some stuff out on Newegg right now but I think I might just be making this also a media center PC

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Mini ITX case, an m.2 adapter because I've actually got two 512gb 970 samsung pro m2's sitting here and an m.2 adapter. I am going with a ddr5 mobo too just to keep it somewhat future proof

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maybe I need to make a separate raspberry pi the interface for communicating with all the cameras just in case I need to make this modular in some capacity. Wondering if there is a way to leverage this PC for all the hardware acceleration etc but still have a main smaller pc run all the home automation and sensors etc. just in case the larger one would need rebooting more often being a media center as well?

zealous dune
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overengineering alert!

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if you expect to frequently reboot your server you dont have a server

bitter dove
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It started with me trying to reuse stuff I have but yeah

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Probably better to keep a media center PC separate of the server yeah?

zealous dune
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that should be separate yes, different roles

bitter dove
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whats a good Mini ITX mobo you think for server?

zealous dune
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not a simple question

bitter dove
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I am going to buy a x16 pci e m2 card

zealous dune
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youd need to pick the processor first

winged knoll
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And a budget

zealous dune
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judging by the wishlist its quite big

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imo you don't need to future proof home servers, using last gen is good enough unless you're doing some freaky camera/video stuff

winged knoll
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These days vaguely recent gen is often good enough

bitter dove
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Yeah I am going more budget now

zealous dune
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i've been looking into upgrading my J3455 but then got to my senses since it still works fine

bitter dove
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shopping the black friday deals. Its easy to go overboard.

winged knoll
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My mini-PC server has an 8th gen i5 in it, and it's still pretty much overkill

bitter dove
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If I wasn't trying to go smaller form factor I would just treat this as an opportunity to use my old ATX size mobo build for it but maybe better I just reserve that for a media center pc

zealous dune
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what;s that link rosemary always posts about enterprise home server syndrome

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wouldnt doing it the other way round be more traditional

bitter dove
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That processor should be compatible I think, I am usually an intel guy

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"Supports AMD Ryzen 5000 Series / 3rd Gen Ryzen and 3rd Gen Ryzen with Radeon Graphics Processors"

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Is there a good lower power consumption or variable power supply yall recommend?

zealous dune
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that depends on the case

bitter dove
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Its that first one, thermaltake mini itx

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"Standard PS2 PSU (not included) Power Supply

zealous dune
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never heard of PS2 PSU

bitter dove
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ATX PS/2. This is by far the most popular PSU form factor and is often called the “standard ATX PSU”

zealous dune
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heard of ATX PSU

bitter dove
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The PS/2 is the form factor part following ATX, its like a subcategory form factor, I guess PS/3 is even shorter at 100mm vs 140mm

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You think a 500w will handle a 1070 gtx card?

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nevermind it says 450 to 500w so I might want to go a little bigger considering all the other components

zealous dune
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always overshoot on expected power expenditure by 20%

bitter dove
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I probably wont overclock the card, but it does already have a waterblock and I'll prob just do a cheap liquid cooler to it because I can

severe flume
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Anyone using the 5 button ikea remote?
The middle button long press isnt working for me

hollow lance
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Frenck’s liberal use of commas elevates my blood pressure

jagged crypt
severe flume
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Ohh thanks

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Will try the blueprint

jagged crypt
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I need to put my blueprint up somewhere, but happy to share it if you want

severe flume
jagged crypt
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forgot to ask ZHA or ? (I'm using ZHA)

severe flume
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Using the default controller

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When i do zha it shows triggered

jagged crypt
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do you see this in the device logbook (minus the "tradfri 02")

Tradfri 02 Move To Level With On Off event was fired with parameters: {'level': 254, 'transition_time': 0}
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that's the long press sequence of the device

severe flume
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No

jagged crypt
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not sure if this impacts it, but is your firmware on it up to date? ZHA can update it. Mine are all "Firmware: 0x23080631".

severe flume
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Not the middle

jagged crypt
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the top button should be "step_with_on_off" for a short press, and "move_with_on_off" for a long press

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"step" and "move" for the button button short/long

severe flume
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Yup

jagged crypt
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if you aren't gettting the "move to level with on off" with a long press, then it's something with the remote i think

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i had some that acted odd, and then worked, you could pop the battery but don't expect it to fix

severe flume
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By you the middle button shows same as top button?

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As the top button has those 2 stuff and long press works

jagged crypt
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  - conditions:
    - '{{ command == ''move_to_level_with_on_off'' }}'
    sequence: !input power_long
  - conditions:
    - '{{ command == ''step_with_on_off'' }}'
    sequence: !input dimup_short
  - conditions:
    - '{{ command == ''move_with_on_off'' }}'
    sequence: !input dimup_long
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make more sense with that?

severe flume
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This makes sense and matches with top button

jagged crypt
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the "move_to_level" should be a long press on the center, hold it longer and see what you get

severe flume
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Ok

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Ohh it did go but really long

jagged crypt
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this is why i swapped to wanting to use double-taps for stuff

severe flume
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Aha

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Ok

jagged crypt
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i think that blueprint I linked to will do double tap for you

severe flume
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Its not

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Do you have any idea why the blueprint isnt working for me?

jagged crypt
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nope, but i can give you mine, hold on one second

severe flume
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Thanks

jagged crypt
severe flume
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oh woops i didnt read the requirements

jagged crypt
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did you add the text entity?

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lets see if this blows up or works here:

severe flume
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no thats what i relized now

jagged crypt
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yeah, too long to paste in, you can try the one you have first, and then if that doesn't work, grab the one i just posted and insert it

severe flume
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ok thanks will try

jagged crypt
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you may need to download it manually and either paste it into the blueprint/automation directory, or copy it over

severe flume
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ok

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now it works

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sorry for the hassle

jagged crypt
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no problem, I just went through it, and was pointed to that blueprint after i put mine together (from a different example)

severe flume
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yours works perfect

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and i think a little nicer and cleaner

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thanks so much

jagged crypt
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I haven't gotten around to adding double clicks on the other bits, and i need to put it up on github or something

glossy raft
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Hi, i dont know if this is the right channel. But i got a QNAP with a APC SmartUPS C1500 connected to it. I can only read the battery percentage and battery status. Is there a way to also read the load of the UPS?

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In home assistant ofc

jagged crypt
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graxo, maybe? how are you reading the data right now?

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you could obviously add an inexpensive power meter plug inline, but I assume you mean retrieve it from the UPS directly

glossy raft
severe flume
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Blueprints look pretty cool first time using it😀

glossy raft
severe flume
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Is it as simple as editing what you did to middle buttun to other buttuns to add double click?

jagged crypt
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Nochlab, I have 4 of those tradfri 5-button units

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Noch, yah, deal with the timestamp and the timeout, add inputs at the top

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lots of cut-n-paste mostly

severe flume
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Oh nice will try tomorrow

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I got myself a usb remote as a 1 device to rule all works really well now looking to use these ikea ones for fewer devices

jagged crypt
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what usb remote did you get?

severe flume
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I also got a zwave keychain with 6 buttuns but doesnt look so nice to leave around the house

jagged crypt
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Graxo, looks like you should be able to pull more info from NUT if the UPS supports them

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Nochlab1, I also managed to get some of the 4 button Strybar units for $7 in the scratch/dent/return section locally, but i like the feel of the round Tradfri ones much better

severe flume
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You recommended it😀

jagged crypt
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yah, was about to ask if you were the one that was asking about it

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that's working for you?

severe flume
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Yup

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All besides for the mouse button (top middle)

jagged crypt
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using the dongle for longer range?

severe flume
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Ye

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Just a few close rooms not the whole house so works

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I didn't end up getting the philips hue tap maybe later will get

jagged crypt
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interesting to see how that works for stuff

severe flume
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I would use the dial to control volume but dont have a place for one yet

jagged crypt
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yeah, the synfondisk volume didn't work well

severe flume
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I didnt try that

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Why doesn't it work well

jagged crypt
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it was way to studdery when i tried it

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maybe the hue-tap will work better

severe flume
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Aha

jagged crypt
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it's also only the dial and a button, the five button becomes more versatile and the loss of "analog" volume isn't actually that bad

severe flume
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Right

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I will try it out someday will see how it is😃

jagged crypt
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i think i read that different hardware acts slightly differently

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(the synfondisk thing, not a general statement)

severe flume
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I just started with this but my next plan will be trying to 3dprint a enclosure for the keyboard remote with a esp32 and small display to show a few set temperatures but lets see if that happens

jagged crypt
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yeah, I want to try esp32+eink display for kitchen

severe flume
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It should be cool

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It seems possible with esphome will find out in a few months

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Hopefully shorter

spare fjord
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I've got a LilyGo device, with eink + ESP32, and the screen on it (or at least, how it's driven) isn't great, as over time the screen stains badly. TBH, I've not spent time trying to sort it out properly. I've also got a smaller (2.9", I think) waveshare screen, with an ESP8266, and that one works an absolute treat. Partial screen refreshes work very well on it, with zero artifacts and little flickering on update.

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Both work ok with ESPHome though, which makes integration easy enough.

weary tangle
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Only 0.4 GHz more then the Pi, 2 less cores 🤔

winged knoll
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From 10 years ago

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CPUMark is slightly faster than a Pi4 though

weary tangle
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So is it worth the upgrade? Ofc the extra memory is nice but my bottleneck is CPU atm

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I dont need a lot but just some more

winged knoll
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It should be an upgrade - the lesser cores means it may not be a massive upgrade, but it should be better

weary tangle
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I hope so thank you 🙂 Will be nice to free up my Pi again

spare fjord
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What's availability of Pi4s like now?

weary tangle
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Non existent

spare fjord
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I do worry a little that if mine fails, I'm going to have a pretty miserable time sourcing another quickly...

winged knoll
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To be honest, most second hand PCs from the last decade are better

peak talon
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Better to go with cheap mini pc which are better for the value - see topton from aliexpress or equivalent

winged knoll
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Though, the biggest failure point is likely to be the SD card, not the Pi itself

spare fjord
winged knoll
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You'd be shocked

weary tangle
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I mean mini pc is like what 40-70 watt at most

winged knoll
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I run HA on a 9 year old i5 laptop that draws not much more than a Pi4

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Even better, being a lot higher power it spends more time at idle, so overall the power usage is the same, if not lower

weary tangle
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Just avoid servers with dual cpu and a lot of disks to power and u save a ton of power

winged knoll
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Modern CPUs are very power efficient compared to older ones

spare fjord
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To be fair, my Pi was running until yesterday on a 64GB SD card (a max endurance one, to be fair) - I've only swapped to an SSD last night to get a bit more headroom for video clips generated by Frigate (and a general concern that the SD card clearly won't last forever). I wouldn't need any more storage in a SFF PC than what a single modest SSD could offer.

weary tangle
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Thanks I just need something quick tho so buying from my locl craiglist

spare fjord
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Nice. Actually, that might make a good pfsense box with those NICs

peak talon
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yep - these are are sold as pfsense boxes - you might want to watch STH channel to see review of these. They actually come with 2.5g eth ports - all four

spare fjord
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👍

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What's the perf difference between the two CPU options - generally, I'd steer clear of celerys, but a router (or HA) isn't going to tax overly. Would it do hardware accelerated video decoding too?

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4 x 2.5Gb good - they are literally outside my house in the rain digging in fibre as we speak 🙂

peak talon
peak talon
spare fjord
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Nice. Definitely going to look into this.

low dock
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Any recommendations for temperature and/or light sensors? I want lights to turn on automatically when it gets to a certain darkness in a room. And also see what the temperature is in other spaces that aren't where the thermostat is.

Edit: I am in the US and would be looking probably between $20-$40, depending on the features. I guess I am looking more for any good brands and whether I should be looking at Zigbee, Zwave, or cloud based. I don't have any Zwave or Zigbee devices currently, but would be open to anything.

outer knotBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
civic kraken
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Zigbee is nice for cheap sensors. The Xiaomi temperature ones are good

low dock
civic kraken
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yes

winged knoll
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Xiaomi Aqara

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There's also their Mijia range

low dock
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Great, thanks! Do I need the Aqara Hub, or some sort of Zigbee hub connected to my HA?

outer knotBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

winged knoll
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You want a suitable USB stick and one of those ☝️

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And by one of those I mean ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

civic kraken
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I used to have the Xiaomi hub but moved to zha at some point and I only use it as a light/speaker

winged knoll
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I went with a CC2652 based coordinator and Zigbee2MQTT, but having the choice is great

low dock
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Awesome, thank you @civic kraken and @winged knoll!

winged knoll
vivid robin
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I'm in North Dakota, USA. Temps can get as cold as -52°C (-60°F) and as hot as 44°C(110°F). My budget is irrelevant for a product that will last a long time. I just recently got myself a Zigbee adapter (CC2652P) and attached it to my Home Assistant box. I'm running HaOS on a Minisforum U820 (via a recommendation in here) bare metal so it has no lack of capability. I have no real preference on protocol, so WiFi, Bluetooth, etc. would be all the same to me as long as it works and integrates with HA. I am interested in the SensorPush HTP.xw, but I also want to avoid buying devices where data has to be sent to the "cloud". I don't need an LCD screen. I don't really care about lighting controls. How well is the SensorPush HTP.xw supported natively by HA? What other outdoor rated temp/humidity/pressure sensors would you recommend?

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Initially, I was looking at Aqara, but I haven't seen any of their outdoor rated gear.

civic kraken
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The regular Aqara temp sensors seem to handle -30°C just fine, but I'm not sure but the extremes you reach there

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Could be worth a shot

vivid robin
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All of the Aqara stuff I've found is Indoor use only.

civic kraken
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Specwise yes, but they can handle the Finnish winter

gloomy spoke
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Temps can get as cold as -52°C (-60°F) and as hot as 44°C(110°F).
It's almost like nature is shouting humans should not live here!

vivid robin
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It definitely keeps the undesirables away/low crime rate.

jagged crypt
spare fjord
jagged crypt
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i don't have any experience with camera processing, so did want to put that disclaimer in there

spare fjord
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YEah, fair enough. TBH, it's quite hard to know what works and what doesn't from just reading specs - you either need to try it yourself, or talk to someone else who's tried it. e.g. The RPi4 supports hardware decoding of h.264, but right now it's broken following an updated kernel back in the summer. Hopefully the fix will see the light of day at some point.

jagged crypt
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btw, forgot to mention these i5-6500t units (Dell, hp, lenovo) are all about $150 on ebay

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usually with 8gigs ram/ 128gig ssd (nvme in my case, sometimes sata)

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that owncloud link is the past week of power usage on my server

spare fjord
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👍

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Will have a look (I guess they'll also be available in the UK too)

jagged crypt
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I added another 8gig sodimm for $20 to get a 16gig ram box

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yeah, another user in Australia picked them up

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and i found out about the servers from a friend who lives in london and has 1/2 dozen of them in his house for stuff

spare fjord
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I wonder if they'll run Zwift.... 😉

jagged crypt
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fyi, you get remote management with these also

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ha! I use trainer road 🙂

spare fjord
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YEah, mostly for my son to be fair - fortunately, Zwift's graphics peaked in about 1998 so it's not too taxing even on modest hardware 😉

jagged crypt
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i use trainerroad on the phone + netflix on the roku 🙂

spare fjord
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British Cycling (our governing body here) and the clubs all tend to use Zwift for training, so it's quite unusual to see kids using anything else. I'd be quite open to something different though - get fed up of it after hours staring at the screen!

jagged crypt
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if you haven't looked at trainerroad.com you should. It has training plans and adapts dynamically as you do good/bad on the plan you are on. Do an FTP test, select what you want to build (sprinting, climbing, endurance, etc) then after every ride, it adjusts future rides it has planned for you. Choose a couple fixed a week, and dynamically add as needed.

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doesn't have any gamification of things, and you can run it on phone, or laptop, and watch something else while it beeps at you to change power, or ride in ERG mode on a smart trainer.

spare fjord
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Nice 👍

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Thanks for the tip

jagged crypt
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you can try monthly and see if it's something that works for you (or your son)

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it actually pre-dates zwift by a couple years

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back to HA, poke at the desktop servers on ebay, you should find stuff easily

spare fjord
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Definitely looks good value for money

jagged crypt
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couple generations behind on the cpu, no?

spare fjord
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YEah, probably (hence the low price)

jagged crypt
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i've got 70 quid to ship to the US, I assume it's cheaper for you

spare fjord
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Showing £135 shipped here (163usd)

jagged crypt
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that's not horrible for 16gigs ram, and 256 ssd (the m900's are m.2 & sata)

spare fjord
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No, it's very reasonable indeed.

jagged crypt
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you get remote management (console) with the i5-6500 also

spare fjord
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That's useful for headless use

jagged crypt
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yeah, though i think you need a display port dummy, or have it plugged into a monitor to work

spare fjord
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(to be fair, HassOS has been good on the RPi. I can't remember when I last had to plug a screen / kbd into it)

jagged crypt
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i run proxmox on mine, makes it simple to do OS snapshots (ZFS) and run other things on the mostly idle box

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dell 3040m and 3050m are similar style boxes

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the dells look slightly higher priced in the UK for some reason

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the lenovos have a small power brick, and input is the lenovo "yellow rectangle plug" fyi

spare fjord
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Thanks. Not used proxmox but sure I could figure it out.

jagged crypt
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it's an opensource hypervisor (qemu/kvm on the backend, ubuntu linux os)

still sapphire
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My wall mounted tablet is currently powered via a smart plug and a good quality fairly low power old phone charger, so I can keep the battery cycling. Is there a product I could integrate in the wall that directly goes from 230V to a switched 5V output at fairly low amps?

jagged crypt
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like a usb charger? 🙂

still sapphire
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Yes, except with WiFi or zigbee driven switching built in and ideally as a module rather than plug-in.

jagged crypt
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rig something like a relay inline with a junction box with usb ports?

worthy dawn
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Should an android tablet running 7.1.1 be able to log into HA from internet browser?

jagged crypt
jagged crypt
still sapphire
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Well, I’d need a European version of it rather than US, but maybe. There’s a couple of ways I can think of to DIY it by chaining together various modules — I was kind of just hoping for a module the size of, like, a Shelly where I could put 230V mains wires in one set of connectors and get a home-assistant controlled 5V output on the other set, without doing anything myself.

jagged crypt
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yeah, i was looking for wall mount wireless charging as a tangental solution

still sapphire
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Yeah, with a supplemental qi receiver on the tablet it could even work! I’m not entirely sure if want the extra heat, though.

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After all, the whole point is to keep the battery in good shape 🙂

jagged crypt
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qi charging is lower power, but yeah, at the same point, what your expected lifecycle on any of these units?

still sapphire
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Honestly, the one I have is a not-really-branded model that cost 110 euros. So the lifespan is not the most important thing financially speaking.

jagged crypt
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if you are going to environmental, then you need to figure out replaceable battery, or if "removable" panel is an actual requirement

still sapphire
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It’s just weird, so many people seem to be doing this, and yet there aren’t really turn key solutions, or at least not for this subset of the problem. I’m sure there are systems that solve all the problems as long g as you pay them 2 grand.

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(I’ve seen iPad-specific mounting systems including power, for instance)

jagged crypt
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market size for people looking for wall mount tablets probably doesn't support anything fancy. So 3d printed "cottage industry" is the solution.

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you could look at MS surface products, they have a "kiosk" mode for battery charging, and find something to mount them. I have one of these for my older Surface Book 2, basically a vesa mount -> laptop. But they have other units for the the GO, and PRO. Then you are using VESA mounting options to get it to the wall, and run power through their holder.

still sapphire
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Yeah, especially for the 13” class, second hand Surfaces might be a decent idea. Although ideally one of the ones that don’t have too many spicy pillows.

jagged crypt
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risk with all of these items. Your other option is just a desktop mount instead of wall mount

gloomy oak
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Can anyone explain Tuya Zigbee? I thought Tuya was wifi but I'm looking for some RGB downlights and would rather not go wifi but see a lot with both the Tuya and Zigbee branding on them.

zealous dune
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tuya is company, zigbee is communication standard

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what if i told you there are also Bluetooth Tuya devices

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and even RF ones

gloomy oak
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So if I get something labelled as both Tuya and Zigbee, I don't have to worry about setting up localtuya, etc. I can just ZHA it and I'm good to have local control?

zealous dune
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no but potentially yes

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although Zigbee is a standard Tuya didn't get the memo so many devices need extra code to work in ZHA

gloomy oak
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I see. That is undesirable.

glossy prism
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Quite

zealous dune
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not to mention their lights are mostly crap

gloomy oak
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Ya, I saw them because I need 10-12 depending on lumen output and wasn't too thrilled about paying $100+ CAD each but I think I better or re-evaluate if I really want them RGB.

zealous dune
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you most likely don't unless you organise parties

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even if you do you can get away with a couple rgb ones for "ambiance"

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most use i got from my rgb lights is showing off to guests what my house can do but that got old fast

gloomy oak
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They're for my basement where my daughter practices dance and her favourite part of class is the "disco dance party" light show so...
I also have my office in the same room so figured CCT changing at least would be valuable.
Right now I have 2" glare bombs so need to replace them with something, figured might as well get some added dance fun for the daughter while I'm at it.

Probably will just get a similar party light that they have in her class and dumb lights or just CCT changing ones.

zealous dune
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CCT is really good to have

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the thing is when you get a combo of RGB+CCT you lose some lumen power since the space goes to RGB LEDs

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and most Tuya downlights I've tried have mediocre to poor light already

gloomy oak
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Do you know of some good brands with tunable white I can search up?

zealous dune
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not one I use, I ended up with wifi Yeelight ceiling lights

gloomy oak
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I have heard that brand in some YouTube videos I've watched over the years. Do you firewall block them and they still work locally?

zealous dune
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yes, they get discovered in HA after enabing LAN control in their app

gloomy oak
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In a quick search, I didn't see many Yeelights in Canada but I'll search more when I have a bit more time. Thanks

zealous dune
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probably not widespread there

jagged crypt
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philips hue "white ambience" lights are cold/warm tuneable though it looks like those are closer to $22 each right now

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(I haven't used the sengleds, just was eyeing them)

cold moon
cold moon
hushed rapids
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and certainly cheaper

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lol

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i just want to know if specifically the 5020 is suitable?

cold moon
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The actual specs aren’t listed I’d have to google it

jagged crypt
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I suspect $35 is too much....

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5060 has displayport, 5020 has dvi, so i assume it's quite a bit older

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Looks like:

  • AMD G GX-415GA 1.5 GHz
  • 4 GB DDR3-SDRAM 1600 MHz
  • 32 GB Flash
patent quartz
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(I'm in Germany, by the way)

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(I know, great timing just for Black Friday ...)

zealous dune
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not the good way but a way, none of the appliances I've dealt with have good smart features imo

patent quartz
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The most important thing to me would be the notification and potentially water/power consumption. But the latter is significantly less important

zealous dune
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not whether it has local control?

patent quartz
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That, too

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I kinda see that as a part of the notification

zealous dune
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manufacturers don't

gloomy elbow
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I have a dumb washing machine and a smart plug with power monitoring that with HA sends me notifications,

zealous dune
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= smart washing machine 😉

stark meadow
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Hi hi, any suggestions for a better enclosure?

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Oh I can attach pictures here

outer knotBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

winged knoll
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You may also want to ask in #diy-archived and tell people where in the world you are

stark meadow
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Ahhh cool

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Thanks 👍😊

stable condor
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Hi folks, I'm running a new HA instance on RPI using the official image. I have a pi rack that has an OLED capability: https://github.com/UCTRONICS/U6143_ssd1306

I have two questions.

  1. Does the official image handle things like Fan speed/throttling on the Pi?
  2. Is there a way I can run the script above? I'm OK making my own addon down the road to do something like that, but just wanted to see if there was an easy way to do it on the host

Thanks! I'm coming from an installed Proxmox VM so I might have a few other questions!

winged knoll
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  1. No
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  1. Only as an add-on I suspect
stable condor
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Appreciate it 👍

still sapphire
cold moon
tired forge
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I am considering migrating to an odroid installation. Would the N2+ 4GB be powerful enough to handle home assistant os, influxdb, grafana, mqtt, or is that asking too much?

quartz anvil
#

I asked status few weeks ago from m.nu where I preordered one skyconnect. At that time, they said that manufacturing should be ready at 15.11 and then import to Europe and delivery early Dec.

cunning horizon
#

I want to get into esphome and was planning to buy a ESP32 NodeMCU board. Now that thing is available with CH340 or CP2102 - which one should I get?

fluid bloom
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I'm looking at buying a few zigbee switches/outlets to propagate my zigbee signal through the house. Are there any specific models that are recommended? I feel like 95% of the time for searches it comes back with wifi or plugs instead of outlets.

zealous dune
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Cause they have very different names across the world

still sapphire
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After that you just update over the WiFi and the thing is just not used.

still sapphire
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(I vastly prefer plugging smart plugs into dumb sockets, because those dumb sockets will last 3-4 decades and it’s… it remains to be seen whether any smart sockets will last that long.)

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(Also, athom ESPHome and even more so zigbee versions of smart sockets for Dutch/German Schuko plugs are very compact.)

zealous dune
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Meanwhile I'm ditching smart plugs and installing smart outlets because stuff sticking out of walls is not nice

fluid bloom
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I'm definitely on the smart outlet side... I want things to look as clean as possible

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Or smart switches with dumb outlets

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But not the plugs... just not a fan

zealous dune
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They serve their purpose but somewhere out of sight

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The worst thing is a kettle on a smart plugs protruding from the wall, it's so 2019

fluid bloom
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Are there any recommended zigbee switches or outlets? I see a few from enbrighten. I know the lutron caseta are great for plugs, but are expensive and require their own hub, which doesn't help propagate the zigbee network like I want.

gloomy elbow
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What country are you in? What's your budget? Do you need dimming switches or just switches, or switches which also do fans and/or dimming?

still sapphire
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The thing is… with or without a smart plug in between, there’s still a socket and a plug. At least in this country those definitely look industrial either way.

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I could see it for the UK actually, those sockets are pretty nice, even with a plug in them.

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Maybe if you replace all your appliance plugs with schuko side entry plugs, a schuko socket covered with a nice quality side entry plug actually looks p good.

civic kraken
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Since we are on the topic of plugs... Is Tuya "garbage tier should avoid at all costs" or "somewhat works but not great"? I'm looking at some cheap plugs for energy measuring (EU) and all of the ones on Amazon seem to be Tuya...

fluid bloom
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Country: us
Budget: I'd prefer around or under $40 outlet/switch. Probably leaning towards outlets because I can do lutron later on for switches. But open to both
Dimming switches preferred if going with switched.

gloomy elbow
civic kraken
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Thanks, that's unfortunate

still sapphire
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I have a bunch of athom ESPhome that I rather like. They come with ESPHome from the factory.

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(And they’re cheap as)

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(I paid 57 euros for a pack of four on Ali with 15 days delivery)

civic kraken
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thanks, that looks like an interesting option

cunning horizon
still sapphire
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I don’t know what urat is but in general, sure they can do multiple things at once. They’re pretty much full featured computers after all.

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Look at the video for the Bruh multi sensor — that’s been sort of the gold standard for multiple things on one esp for a while (although the exact sensors he uses are a little outdated now).

versed helm
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Hey, I need some advice.

I have some WS2811 LED lights, but I need a ZigBee controller for them. Can anyone recommend something?

winged knoll
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I'm not sure there are any Zigbee controllers for addressable LEDs

versed helm
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tasmota? If not, esphome?

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if I were to buy just another nodemcu/esp8266

zealous dune
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a WLED controller is best

torn escarp
zealous dune
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thats just a thermostat

#

if i had to bet i'd bet on an old rockchip cpu

ornate wyvern
#

Hi @everyone, could someone recommend me a good vacuum robot fully integrated with HA, with mop, auto-clean base and if possible without 3rd party cloud or I'm asking to much 😄 😄 ?

zealous dune
#

roborock s7 max

tacit burrow
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@jagged crypt did you have a solid pic on a second NIC that plugs in that slot on motherboard for the thinkcentre? I'd like to get rid of the usb-eth (and probably buy a new one, move the old one elsewhere)

tacit burrow
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btw did the "fake screen" work for you to keep the remote-desktop alive? impact on power?

jagged crypt
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@tacit burrow not sure on the second nic, would go back to doing vlans to "solve" it probably. I have to move the box and set it up on a monitor to test the dummy video, so not yet, ask me again this weekend, when i have a chance to futz with it.

distant dove
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Hey All,

I am looking to add some LED strips to the top and bottom of my kitchen cabinets. I don’t need anything special, like individually controlled LEDs. Everything will be the same color.

I’ve been searching, but have not found solution that doesn’t reach out to the internet for control.

Can anyone please recommend a set that works with HA and doesn’t reach out to the internet?

gloomy elbow
primal solstice
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You could also build your own, using the WLED project, will allow for local only control. https://wled.me/

civic kraken
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WLED with some basic 5050 led strips is where I would go. Cold white for the kitchen

cold moon
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He could also use sk6812 ww/cw/amber instead of rgb with wled and have multiple color temps

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they work with wled as well you just use them as if they are rgb

pure mist
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I want to set up a security camera with Home assistant and I see a ton of recommendations for PoE cameras. Might be a dumb question but I couldn't find the answer anywhere. Do people just have stupid long ethernet cords running taped up on their walls around the house? And what about outdoors? Y'all got an ethernet port outside or something?

glossy prism
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I don't have interior cameras, but I ran Ethernet up into the attic and then to the eaves where my outdoor cameras are at

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I imagine most people who have interior PoE cameras do something similar if they're ceiling mounted (@pure mist pinging in case this gets buried)

orchid mesa
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Hi, i’m searching for a 1-phase energy meter which is capable of handling more than 16A. I have some shelly devices, but it seems like they can’t handle this much current.

warm topaz
olive orchid
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Is this any good ?

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I use it to watch movies it usually hangs behind my tv and its on all day

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Could i maybe use it for both home assistant and watching movies?

abstract moat
zealous wyvern
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Anyone know of a good outdoor smart plug that has energy monitoring?

outer knotBOT
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Zucram Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
tacit warren
#

So far I've only attached one WiFi device to my network, a Ledvance (Tuya) LED strip that came with the apt. i bought.
Although tedious to find the best way to implement it to HA, which is also a bit technical. Everything is set up and i can quickly onboard more now.

So far I've had 0 issues with the LED Strip, and the cheap price is alluring...
Before i invest in 4-5 more, does anyone think this is a very bad idea despite my small sample size of success?

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The network in sum won't be very large, it's just an appartment, and my router doesn't handle more than 6-7 other devices/IPs.

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Mostly I'm just worried perhaps the devices can't handle a router upgrade down the road, seeing as these WiFi devices specify some Gens as incompatible

karmic solar
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I would personally stay away from Tuya and any other device which relies on a cloud-service to function. (where possible)
As you say your network experiences handing multiple devices are you able to utilise something like Zigbee?

tacit warren
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I have both Z-wave and Zigbee controller. The Tuya WiFi LED Strip is simply because its very discounted right now. It doesn't rely on cloud right now to function, i believe. HA talks to the device directly, but, if i delete it from the proprietery LEDVance app, the private key for the strip resets, so technically i guess its not cloud-less because the connections are still open, it probably phones home to the Ledvance servers still. There are methods, i think flashing firmware, that makes it 100% cloud-less, i just didnt do it already. There might be some caveats to flashing it but from what i can recall for my device it was possible.
I had forgotten that though, so you reminded me, thank you! Ill look into it again

karmic solar
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which LED strip is it? 😮

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Might be possible to just replace the LED controller

polar crest
#

i have 2 different humidity and temperature sensors, but when i plug the battery their still "on" on HA, any ideas why?

tacit warren
spiral charm
#

Suggestions for good HA smart outlets?

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I've got ones from Meross, but they're awful at connecting. I have Wyze, but they rely on the cloud. I have iDevices for outside, but whenever they're unplugged, I have to factory reset them.

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Need a good brand for indoor and outdoor.

ebon holly
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I’m looking to either buy or create a dedicated touch screen for my living room to always display HA. I do not want it wall mounted all the time but a dock would be neat. I’m thinking an Android tablet may be the cheapest and best route but I’ve always had a distaste for Android after disastrous disjointed update experiences in the past.

keen trail
#

Anyone aware of a high quality, high cri tunable white smart bulb? Can be any protocol, zigbee, zwave or wifi but must be high cri at least 90+ preferably 95+

ebon holly
cold moon
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hue just released a new generation of bulbs with up to 1600 lumen that might be better than previous

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idk if any smart bulbs or strips have high cri tho.. seems that is still an analog only thing

keen trail
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But they tend to come with proprietary systems with built in drivers which can be replaced with smart drivers

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But that doesn’t solve the problem for existing fixtures

cold moon
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you dont mean smart lights or individually addressable strips correct?

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that is what i was saying

cold moon
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analog led strips can be used with a controller to make them "smart" but they still arent addressable

keen trail
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Right I don’t need addressable

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Sorry for confusion

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Im looking for screw in bulbs which are smart on that that they don’t require an external driver

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Ie hue or lifx

cold moon
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do you have a way to test the actual cri?

keen trail
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No, only tha I know it when I see it

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I don’t necessarily care about the cri for the sake of cri

cold moon
#

they can be flashed with esphome, wled, etc and integrated with home assistant easily

spiral charm
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I’m using HaOS in a VM.

cold moon
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you need a zwave controller such as an aeotec or zooz 700 series stick

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and buy a usb extension cable because usb ports and rack etc cause interference

keen trail
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Tunable white

cold moon
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so use the usb extender to move the zwave usb stick away from rack / usb ports

cold moon
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i have a couple of their gu10 versions and they work/look great

keen trail
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K will check one out.

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I have the Shelly gu10 and the work great but the light quality is not great

cold moon
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i'd suggest flashing it to wled instead of tasmota just cuz i prefer wled

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they sell one preflashed wled but it's out of stock

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BLACK2022 <- 12% off athom site

gloomy spoke
fallen cloud
#

Not sure if the right channel but: what video doorbells are worth looking at, would prefer if it works local with homeassistant too, so far found ezviz, foscam and unifi, but still need to look deeper in their specs to see if they're any good

indigo garden
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void hollow
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I used to work in film and television

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And worked with lights worth $10k + each,

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So I've got a pretty colour critical eye

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But I've found Philips LEDs to be very good even though their CRI is only >=80

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And a lot of CRI 85 & 90 lights to be far worse

winged knoll
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Let's face it, if CRI is self reported then some companies are absolutely going to fudge things

void hollow
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Plus the lower the CRI the more varied two lights with identical CRI values can be

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It's basically a tolerance measure.

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Like how you end up with a box of off brand Lego and only 1/4 pieces fit with 1/4 of the other pieces

vestal dove
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Does anyone have recommendations for a (preferably Zigbee) dimmer switch that is only a battery powered switch to send a signal and doesn't contain the dimmer circuit itself? I can't find any...

winged knoll
vestal dove
vestal dove
winged knoll
#

Well, it's just a remote... you can do whatever you want in HA

vestal dove
winged knoll
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as always, avoid anything in there that's Tuya

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I think that list happens to be Tuya free though

vestal dove
winged knoll
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With their WiFi junk... maybe, if it's old enough, but not for Zigbee

outer knotBOT
#

@vestal dove When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

winged knoll
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Little to none of the new Tuya WiFi stuff can be reflashed any more

zealous dune
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actually....

vestal dove
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Good point with the zigbee

vestal dove
winged knoll
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Well....

vestal dove
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XD

zealous dune
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some of it, it's not universal since it depends on which module is inside

heady stag
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Can I transfer the HASS card from a Pi3 directly to a Pi4 and expect it to work?
I've given it a go and it doesn't show up on the network under any name so I'm wondering if it's something wrong or if it's just a matter of that's not something that can be done.

winged knoll
cold moon
#

Any cyber Monday deals you guys are gonna jump on?

tacit warren
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I've ordered a ZigBee PoE Coordinator which i can connect to the router, and it got me thinking... The Aeotec Z-stick i have in my server, is it possible to insert to router/other device, and have homeassistant from a different box - access it in the same way that it will be able to acess the ZB PoE coordinator?

winged knoll
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You wanted #zwave-archived for that question, but yes you can run the Z-Wave JS server on a remote computer

tacit warren
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Appologies! I was thinking mostly about the concept of accessing the radio over LAN, like with the PoE Coordinator i just plug in the router. So my curiousity is not about running z-wave js remotely on a PI or something else, but if the USB device can be made accesible over LAN in any easy way. But things are never easy.
I just found out about ESP32 and other words too big for me, so i think i can find my answer

winged knoll
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There is no commercial network Z-Wave "hub" like that

winged knoll
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That's... not much help here

cold moon
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i dont think zwave js supports that yet tho

winged knoll
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That's basically a PC, with a Z-Wave stick

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Heck, I'd not be surprised to find out it's a Pi/Pi-clone

cold moon
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you can use ser2net to make a "remote" zwave stick basically

tacit warren
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I see! From what i see i guess that the PoE controller i mentioned is built in with some sort of 'serial port over tcp' magic. That concludes my journey, if i decide so - i might go with a Pi next to my router:)

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Thanks for the help

tacit warren
stark sun
#

is the amazon fire tablet line good for home assistant dashboards?

lunar delta
#

eh

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they're ok if you can root them

stark sun
#

anything as cheap?

cold moon
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Then fully kiosk browser app to add functionality and hass integration

stark sun
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cool, I ended up just buying 2 fire 10s

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hopefully they are good enough and I didn't need to get the fire 10 plus

cold moon
#

I think the plus just includes wireless charging

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And a bit more ram that you don’t need

indigo garden
#

Question: If a device has support for Z-Wave, and I have a Z-Wave dongle setup with my HA, is the device inherently supported? Is it a common protocol?
I ask because a lot of these z-wave devices I'm looking at have their own software/app, and I'm wondering if that app is required or if I can skip it and hit the device straight to HA.
E.G. https://www.amazon.com/Repeater-Existing-Regular-Required-SmartThings/dp/B07T4G24TL

gloomy spoke
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ZWave is a standard and any ZWave device should be compatible. The only consideration is that different countries/regions use different frequencies and you need to buy devices/dongles that support your region

indigo garden
#

Sounds good. Does the same go for Zigbee if I have a dongle for that?

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I'm looking at putting together a network that will involve both

gloomy spoke
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Zigbee is the opposite - same frequency worldwide, but devices don't all play well together

indigo garden
#

Ah. Well, hopefully my case works. I'm getting a presence detector (Aqara FP1) which people say works with HA, and a zigbee dongle recommended on HA's site.

gloomy spoke
indigo garden
#

Thank you for your help!

sage helm
#

CO optional…

hard bison
#

Anyone using Shelly Vintage ST64 smart light bulbs? Do they also have a buzzing sound - I already bought some Xiaomi light bulbs but they have a constant buzzing when not on 100% brightness... I wonder if this is the same for all bulbs?

zealous dune
#

no, depends on the bulb's hardware and your hearing sensitivity

supple lily
#

Hey, I’m in Australia so 240v and I want to use clamp on hardware because it’s a rental to give me energy usage for my house. Any links for hardware that might be useful for me?

lilac nova
#

maybe you'll find it cheaper somewhere

unreal shuttle
#

Wondering if anyone has experience with a Lidl Zigbee lamp, it seems to use module TS0504B but I can't set any color temperature, the RGB works, but quite dim, when I set the "normal" white color it can go very bright. Relatively new to all this so maybe there's something I need to fix?

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Maybe relevant, I'm using the sonoff ZBDongle-E

winged knoll
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More for #zigbee-archived really, at least if you tell people over there whether you're using ZHA or Z2M

unreal shuttle
#

Sorry, thanks!

civic kraken
#

That's probably why they thought it was a good idea to go with a known brand Honeywell first

limber ridge
#

anyone have the kasa wifi bulbs? wondering how they work compared to the kauf

burnt chasm
#

Is there any way to test the bluetooth integration ?
or rather : do I need specific extra things for it to work without digging too deep into the technical wizardry of HA ?

I'm running HA in a vm using proxmox. The hardware itself is an intel NUC.
While looking at the vm-configuration I noticed an unspecified usb device, which appeared to be the bluetooth chip (the other two are zwave and zigbee sticks in usb-ports on the nuc itself).

If I open the console in proxmox I can execute the 'bluetoothctl' command and I get a never ending list of Id's which appear to be bluetooth devices in range.
By setting a bluetooth speaker to 'scan' mode I saw what looked like a new device Id with the name of the device scroll by, which to me kind of showed that the bluetooth transmitter is indeed working.
Unfortunately this is where my experiment kind of ended, because I don't know if and how I can use the bluetooth feature at all for anything practical.

I was trying to follow this, but I am not able to make sense of what it is asking me to do (and it's over a year old so likely out of date for various reasons) :
https://marklewis.blog/2021/02/25/home-assistant-bluetooth-speaker/
It is where I discovered the bluetoothctl command, but as I've said ... that's about it.

shut vine
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Anyone experience with the TV02 Tuya radiotar? Are they working okay with zigbee2mqtt?

winged knoll
hardy valley
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Does anyone have a 3 gang switch and how do they display it on a Dashboard. I can see all 3 toggles in devices.

mossy sleet
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any luck with this? I am interested as well

cedar bay
# mossy sleet any luck with this? I am interested as well

That's been a minute, lol. But never did get very far with it. I experimented with a github project called EnigmaIOT that does the ESP NOW to MQTT gateway. IIRC it had a huge codebase and the latest releases didn't include binaries and I had trouble getting it to compile. I only got so far with the now-2-year-old release's binaries. If you find something that works and easier to get going let me know! https://github.com/gmag11/EnigmaIOT/blob/master/docs/howto.md

cedar bay
# mossy sleet Thanks. Will do.

FYI, I was mainly interested in saving as much power as possible for battery-based projects and utilizing deep sleep timers and hardware-activated wakes to trigger MQTT messages.

astral plaza
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Hello everyone! Does anyone know how to get woox smart siren to work with HA alarm?

zealous dune
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Integrate it into ha, create an automation to trigger the siren

glad silo
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Any brands you guys recommend(possibly that support hackable firmware) for smart bulbs, that I can lookout for to wait until they have matter bulbs(or buy one in the rare case they have a matter smart bulb)

burnt chasm
# glad silo Any brands you guys recommend(possibly that support hackable firmware) for smart...

Philips/Signify says on their site that they will be adding Matter-support to the hub they use to control their Hue-series smart lights, which to me suggests that they won't be adding Matter to the lights themselves.
I wouldn't be surprised if other brands are going to use a similar route to integrate matter into their systems (ie : 'force' you to use their hub for matter support).

glad silo
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But ye im mainly just looking at recommendations, not just signify products. If other manufacturers have better products or even ones which allow flashing custom firmware I would wanna have a look and maybe buy them.

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I only really know of signify products so to know of other products is good and they might have advantages in terms of pricing, features, lifespan etc

jagged crypt
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if you are running HA, what does "matter" get you? Other than potentially more available hardware to interface with?

glad silo
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Mainly it would be nice to be on the open standard and I’ve heard it has improvements, not to mention I’m also looking towards some dev(also it’s supposed to be compatible with multiple devices which would mean I wouldn’t have to buy a zigbee or zwave dongle)

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So it’s also future proofing in that way

jagged crypt
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you haven't actually told me what you get out of that?

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you need to buy a dongle, and right now the "matter" dongle is a zigbee dongle

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you can order the HA dongle and get zigbee now, with promised matter later if you are concerned in the short term.

jagged crypt
glad silo
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I have my reasons, however, my reasons shouldn’t really matter trust me as I say this I already have my mind up and I’m just looking for some recommendations for matter or even lightbulbs brands that’s all. I’m not interested into buying into zigbee etc, this could be compared to me asking if they have any recommendations for libraries for a language and you asking me to justify why im using that language(like any recommendations for a http library in Zig?like yeah it’s interopable with c, that’s cool, maybe I also like syntax, like yeah you could use C but maybe Zig would be a useful tool )

jagged crypt
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see above, that's all I have for now, perhaps others will have other recommendations

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Is there anything that is actually certified for "matter" yet?

glad silo
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You should be able to see it right there

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But ye I’m excited to see some implementations of matter and actually see them being used in the wild

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The thread system seems quite interesting, similar to zigbee and I’d really have to take another good look at the standard specification

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Also it’s all based on ipv6 afair so it will mean more devices

jagged crypt
glad silo
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Thank you “panzer”, I also really recommend you to read it

jagged crypt
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how about we both agree to stop being sarcastic?

burnt chasm
# glad silo I doubt it, wiz for example is getting updates for it to work matter as the bulb...

I hope we get true matter support, because it is supposed to be a more open standard. However the industry does want to lock us into their ecosystem .
I haven't found any competitor to Hue that had the same kind of range in bulbs. Most will do the big E34 (?)threads and there are light strips, but the tiny e14 bulbs I haven't seen yet.

I would love to have alternatives to Hue too, but I wouldn't want them to have WiFi at all.

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Innr is compatible with Hue.
I wonder if they will do matter on their own. I've got a few sockets from them because they were a better form factor and not as expensive as the Hue equivalent.

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I really hope matter does take off

vivid sky
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I'm relatively new to the home automation scene and I've used multiple types of bulbs, wifi, hue and bluetooth. After testing a couple of switches I don't know why anyone would use bulbs unless you want color.

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I guess if you wanted something fancy looking for light switch but then you could just use relays I guess.

astral plaza
zealous dune
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you're welcome

winged knoll
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Wireless connection: Zigbee 3.0

burnt chasm
vivid sky
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You do have to get dimmable lights for switches that can dim LEDS. I guess the certified electrician is a point I do forget about being I don't need one.

waxen monolith
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hi averyone

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everyone

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but the OS Agent 1.4.1 makes an error

winged knoll
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That's not HAOS, that's Supervised, which ... is a trap

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Also, you said MX Linux... that's not Debian Bullseye, and only Debian Bullseye is supported

burnt chasm
vivid sky
shy sparrow
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A question on the skyconnect, if I may.

There seems to be a lot of effort going into making it multiplex zigbee with thread to allow it to be a multi-purpose device - which for a new user I get, it seems like a great idea.

However existing users are already likely to be using a zigbee stick that we're assumably happy with (i am). Will there be a version of the skyconnect firmware for these people that is only thread and doesn't carry any overhead for zigbee? or will the device be able to be otherwise configured to use thread only?

Thanks

obtuse tree
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Installed a ZigBee 3 rgb bulb white is really bright at 100% but when with a color is very dim, any ideas

glossy prism
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That's generally the case with any light tbh

obtuse tree
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But really dim

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Cool and white are almost eye watering bright

zealous dune
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dem's the breaks

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there are fewer RGB LED's than white ones

obtuse tree
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So expected behavior, ok

winged knoll
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Well, depends too on the make and model

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"ZigBee" not being either

zealous dune
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and different colors reach different brightness levels

obtuse tree
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Smart wise ZigBee 3 rgbw

zealous dune
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and you got a cheap one 😄

gloomy elbow
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And if it's just RGB not RGBW then it would just be turning all the lights on (I think, from memory)

obtuse tree
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Just testing stuff before rolling out big build

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I ain't got the cash to roll out hue everywhere in 1 go

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I think it was rgbw

winged knoll
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There's other brands that are still good, but if you buy RGB-CCT or RGBW you make tradeoffs

gloomy elbow
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Cheap vs frugal, roll out slowly with higher quality

winged knoll
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Innr bulbs get good feedback, and the Tradfri CCT bulbs are good

obtuse tree
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Yeah lights are really the last on the smartening of the house

zealous dune
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you'll roll out when this one dies within a year anyway 😄

gloomy elbow
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Innr work/partner with Hue so that's not a surprise to me

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I like my Tradfri CCT bulbs.

obtuse tree
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Hue is great but in Greece soooooooo expensive

zealous dune
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it's not just Greece, its expensive everywhere

obtuse tree
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Well I was able to get temp door sensors and a crap load of other stuff instead of 1hue rgb

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Lol

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Hue will be rolled out but slowly,as I like the dimmer switch as well

winged knoll
glossy raft
cobalt nebula
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Anyone knows the best place to buy esp8266 or esp32 for cheap while still being delivered fast?

civic kraken
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Where are you located?

jagged crypt
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jan, amazon worked for me in the USA

burnt chasm
# obtuse tree Hue is great but in Greece soooooooo expensive

true ... but I've yet to replace a single bulb.
I started with just the basic starter set (the hub and a couple of lights).
Also : the 'warm white' versions tend to be cheaper, although the full colour ones, because realisticly only few people need blue or red coloured lights in their entire house.

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(I also have yet to replace any of the basic led lights in my house, but I did it as I wanted the convenience that the smart lights offer)

obtuse tree
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@burnt chasm Yeah I will eventually move everything to hue, as it does appear to be the best, but will be done over time, I am working on the core system HA and everything else, door, windows sensors, cameras, etc

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having a cheap bulb is a nice holding place

pseudo flicker
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Question after looking for half a day. Does anyone have any experience with motorized ball valves for automated water control?

cobalt nebula
civic kraken
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When we ordered a raspberry we got one from berrybase and they have ESP32's for a decent price too. There are probably a lot of other German diy focused stores around too

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China is still cheaper but not by much

ruby harbor
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Are there any cheap boards I can add a camera to like the ESP32 but it does not have wifi/blue tooth?
I am trying to find some way to to make a cheap PoE camera with no wifi/blue tooth with greater then 2 MP resolution.

surreal burrow
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can anyone recommend a camera such that i can check on my cats while im away? are there any that can be remotely moved etc?

burnt chasm
# surreal burrow can anyone recommend a camera such that i can check on my cats while im away? ar...

I'm assuming you're want to control it with HA ?
'cause I've seen pan+tilt enabled cameras, but from what I understand they all require the app to do the magic.
Foscam has a few, but I don't know what the support is like in HA.
A remote camera is on my wishlist for my HA automations as well, but I haven't found one that would suit me yet (almost everyone needs some sort of mobile app to work ... )

ruby harbor
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I kind of wonder wonder if a tiny wifi control drone can be more of what you want. OpenVPN into your house network. Then access some device on the network to control the drone. Fly it around seeing its video feed.

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It would probably be easier to use multiple cameras

surreal burrow
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hmmm the situation here is a bit weird, basically my parents really want me to have a tilt/pan camera while im gone for 6 days (and friends come in to check on my cats)

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but after that my parents get the cats back, and i guess i'd give them this camera as well because i dont have much need for one

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they'd probably use it in their doorway or something

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and they do have a synology server for our family business, i can easily use that afterwards to make use of it for them

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so i suppose the camera doesn't strictly need to be HA compatible, but i do want it to be "privacy friendly" in the sense that i don't want images of our homes getting sent to some data center. i have a unifi dream machine router so i am comfortable setting up a VPN

burnt chasm
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that's been my main reason to be extra careful when looking for 'security' cameras.
the cheap ones feel like they may have security/privacy issues and an app isn't adding to my confidence in that matter either.
of course a DIY approach could work, but then it would lack the bit of polish that commercial products do have.

surreal burrow
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agree

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i also just found the unifi "flex," this is a strong contender

ruby harbor
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2 MP seems not good enough quality for a security camera.

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I was thinking 12 MP but the cameras I have seen are $85 each.

winged knoll
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Higher MP gives you better image quality... during good lighting conditions. You get worse image quality in low light.

ruby harbor
winged knoll
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Well, IR changes the game

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If you're lighting it then you get higher quality images with good light, whether IR for IR capable cameras, or "normal" light

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Honestly though, I doubt you'll care much as you go past 4 MP

civic kraken
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low light performance comes down to the sensor size rather than MP most often

winged knoll
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That too, it's a factor of the size of the photocell

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Honestly though, I doubt that 12 MP is likely to be a useful "upgrade" over 4 or 5 MP

ruby harbor
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How far would IR lighting on the cheap 5MP IR cameras even be able to reach into a yard?

civic kraken
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5m maybe. That's what I would say about our Reolinks

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15 feet if you like freedom units instead

winged knoll
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A separate IR illuminator would make a big difference

ruby harbor
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What frame rate does ESP32 allow cameras to operate?

royal rock
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Hi guys. I got this issue with home assistant regarding restart, i am using sensor who is reading my hot water meter and sends data to hassio. but every time i restart, i get wrong reading value from the meter but after that the readings are with no error until next restart. hope you catch my drift

surreal burrow
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"d-link DCS-8526LH"

winged knoll
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ONVIF Profile S, RTSP
So, probably yes

surreal burrow
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What do those mean?

winged knoll
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Those are good signs for local (non cloud) camera streaming

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Google can explain far more

burnt chasm
# surreal burrow What do those mean?

from what I understand "RTSP" is a protocol for streaming video.
It will be a bare bones stream (so little or no camera control), but it does mean you don't have to depend on some sort of cloud service for it to work ... once you get it configured that is.
Usually you do have to enable the feature in the app.

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😦 ... just checked the manual from that website. And it is as I kind of suspected.
You do need the app and an account to use the app.
It doesn't even tell you how to get to the stream without the app ... 🙄 (the best is : "You can also use an ONVIF compliant device to control your camera’s settings without using the mydlink™ app." yet no info on how you can enable this ... )
So either the website isn't telling us everything (always a possibility as it is a localised website) or (as likely) they really really want you to buy into their cloud-subscription.
It's very likely that all the smart features are linked to their cloud-service.

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Also (and IMHO as important) the device is dated (released in 2020 ), no firmware updates of any kind to be seen.

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chances are the device will be out of support 'real soon' (yes ... I am cynical and a bit paranoid, but given the subject I'd argue it is warranted)

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I wish companies were more open about such things instead of trying to upsell subscriptions to services they can't even guarantee to be available in 5 years (never mind 10 or more ... )

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Also : Profile M is the profile you'd want if you want access to security features (like object recognition ...) and it is a 2022 spec.
Profile S is just video-streaming, but a lot of features are listed 'C' (Conditional) instead of 'M' (mandatory) ...
None of the standards appear to include firmware updates ...

surreal burrow
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Ty for digging all of that info up 🙏🙏

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Sucks that all these stupid companies need to do this crap, I'm paying for the camera aren't i

rugged cosmos
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Hi, is there a esp32 board with Bluetooth classic capability? To be able to use Bluetooth proxy not only for BLE.
Or there is a way to extend the Bluetooth range? (Not BLE)

spiral charm
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Any good suggestions for cheap outdoor z-wave outlets?

surreal burrow
burnt chasm
# surreal burrow Sucks that all these stupid companies need to do this crap, I'm paying for the c...

the real price is your privacy and the data you generate while using their product andat the very least they want your email so they can sell it to spammers.
Anyways ... that c200 does sound tempting, doesn't it ?
Notice how they refer to hardware versions of their products ... and how few if any webshops will give you that info 🙄
The C210 appears to be the newer version :
https://www.tp-link.com/en/home-networking/cloud-camera/tapo-c210/

surreal burrow
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oh dang, i think i didnt see that c210 because im in canada lol

fallen jay
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Hi, can you recommend a cheap smart watch which is integratable into Home Assistant? I want to track my heart beat and sleep. And I want an automation like: Start vacuum at 8 o'clock only if I'm not sleeping.
Thank you very much.

gentle fossil
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I can only speak for the apple watch, while there is no way to connect it to HA directly you can transmit Health data to HA and also receive notifications/actions and infos for complications on it

gentle fossil
hollow lance
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The health data, I mean

gentle fossil
pallid shell
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Hey guys, is it worth upgrading to an old Intel NUC-NUC6i5SYH with a i5-6260U 8 GB ram. At the moment i'm using a Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8gb variant with an SSD.

tacit burrow
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For ha? No, your old system sounds fine.

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Compare cpu performance on Google

pallid shell
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Yes, it's only for HA. The CPU performance with the i5-6260U google says that its a lot faster. But my question is do i really need it. The Intel NUC is second hand and it's a ok price.

zealous dune
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if you don't have it and you already got a working one you don't need it

pallid shell
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Ok , thanks

frigid light
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Does anyone use the Sonoff s-mate with home assistent? And if so, do you have full functionality?

I am currently on smartthings (with ewelink, yeelight and google home integration). My s-mate does not show up in google home or smartthings and i am not able to make the automation I want with the s-mate in ewelink, because frankly ewelink is a automation pile of garbage.

So I am curious if switching to HA would solve my issues.

zenith coyote
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Anyone had luck finding Raspberry Pi 4's ? Seems like the market is completely bare with no ETA on restock.

zealous dune
frigid light
jagged crypt
burnt chasm
keen flame
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Three hours into it and no luck: How can I get HomeAssistant OS (running on an Odroid N2+ if that matters) to mount a USB drive for media?

keen flame
full rampart
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I am looking for an io homecontrol (that somfy wireless network thing) hub, ideally low power and fully local, to connect to an Atlantic heat pump. I am having difficulties finding where to buy some of them so that I can compare prices and not only the things instructions manuals share.

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I've been searching for hubs based on reading about the integrations. Is there any kind of place I should be searching for hubs at instead of amazon?

lavish heath
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I bought 2 Lenovo Thinkcentre M73 with i7 CPU and 8GB of RAM, 109 euro on ebay germany

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Proxmox running HA vm, Ubuntu VM with emoncms, Debian VM with knxd

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and probably more to come 🙂

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already recovered 2x RPi 3B

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when HA is stable also a RPi 4 4GB

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full disclosure, there was a 512GB SSD in it, Zheino S3, some cheap Aliexpress SSD. Replaced it with a Crucial MX500 1TB to sleep better ;-). Maybe it's just fine, but I fear reliability of an unknown Chinese SSD

lavish heath
jagged crypt
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when HA is stable?

lavish heath
# jagged crypt when HA is stable?

Haha, I mean when the VM is stable ;-). But running a few days now, looks good. Quicker than the RPi4. Only have to see if I can pass the zigbee stick through. Motherboard supports vt-d, so should be no issue. I even think for USB devices vt-d isn't needed.

jagged crypt
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you don't need vt-d i don't think

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i'm using a sonoff-e stick proxmox and ha with passthrough, took 30 seconds

lavish heath
jagged crypt
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shouldn't matter, from my understanding of what's going on

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i have m900 with i5-6500 unit, came with samsung ssd

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nvme

lavish heath
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i7-4765T CPU @ 2.00GHz with 2,5" Crucial MX500

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I think these M73's are from 2015 or so

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so pretty old but still way faster than a RPi4

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esphome compile times 2-3 times faster

zealous dune
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the joy of using a real computer

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35W TDP tho

lavish heath
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yes happy I stumbled on the video of Andreas Spiess. Also what to do with 3 RPi 3B's 😄

jagged crypt
zealous dune
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everyone is switching now although we've been preaching the same here forever. used pc/laptop > rpi toy

jagged crypt
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no $35 pi's anymore either

lavish heath
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3 VM's on it, consuming between 11 and 13W

zealous dune
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back then it made sense to begin with one

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oh that's actually very decent

jagged crypt
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i have two vm's, the other is just doing DNS/DHCPD, full centos8 vm, but 99% idle

lavish heath
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yes when you are installing new VM's etc, then goes to 25-40W

jagged crypt
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sell them for a profit, or hmoney will buy 3 more 3dprinters

cold moon
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I live next to a microcenter I can still get pi’s lol

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I only use them for 3d printers now tho. One is a backup pihole in case server dies

lavish heath
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I have only one Ender 3 with already a Pi 3B, also having a few Zero2W's laying aroud. I was testing those for emonCMS hosts etc, but they run hot

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this tiny pc is way better and since I have a patch rack in the garage, why would I bother it's not fanless

cold moon
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Yea

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Nuc / thin clients are the way

lavish heath
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in the house, fanless is nice, Pi's can serve for Octoprint and co

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knxd on debian 11.5 is consuming 0.2-0.25% of CPU 😄

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I used to have a dedicated RPi 3B for that...

cold moon
lavish heath
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I'm also researching power supplies/UPS at the moment

cold moon
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Psu for?

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Used rackmount ups and buying a new battery is a pretty good option

lavish heath
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In this rack, so many AC to DC converters. Why not take one big high efficiency one and then multiple DC-DC buck converters to 20V, 12V, 9V and 5V

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maybe use old powertool batteries, have 4x 20V 2Ah laying around, doing nothing since all are 4Ah and 8Ah now

cold moon
cold moon
lavish heath
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haha no thanks, when they burn, they damage the connected equipment

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I wanted to keep them powertool battery and see if I can take 20V from the charger pins directly through some XT60 connector or similar.

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Then I keep protection circuits etc intact

cold moon
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Yea

lavish heath
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I could even use it for the newer/better batteries

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since I have two double chargers = 4 batteries

cold moon
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I’ve seen 3d printed holders for people doing that

lavish heath
cold moon
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I’ve seen guys taking used server psus since they’re dirt cheap on eBay etc for like a bench psu

lavish heath
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yes but I'm really looking into efficiency, 95% etc

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but also read something funny about power factors. Apparantly a low power factor power supply is kinda free energy, since power companies charge real power W and not apparent power VA

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my SMA solar inverter does this trick at night, 0.08 power factor

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and of april this year till now, 7kWh import for 4400 kWh export

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39VA but 0W at the moment

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cos phi 0.08

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so you actually want to build a superbad power supply 😄

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for all your low power standby machines. Wifi AP's, routers, thin clients running24/7

severe flume
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I am looking to use a st7789v display with a esp32 but it only works at 135x240 if i do 240x240 it crashes saying "E][display:022]: Could not allocate buffer for display!"

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On esphome it says supported

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Unless i need a specific esp32 with more memory? And if so does anyone know which

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Thanks

high oar
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any advice on what the cheapest wifi or zigbee energy monitoring plugs would be?

jagged crypt
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obviously my friend in the UK, uses the UK plug, not the US plug 🙂

iron arch
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Hey I used the Nuki Opener for some time now but it started to fail so i thought ok maybe a reconfiguration works well so i started the reconfig. BUT they seem to stoped the Support of my Intercom (TCS ISW3030) so i thought well just give them a call and let them push the old config back on my device. But the support says they are unable to do so... so now my Question is dose someone of you guys have the same Intercom as i do and knows a different solution to make the intercom smart (next to ring because i dont like amazon knowing when im in my apartment or not).

full rampart
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Hmn... I think I may need a better AP than a pi 3b for my ESPs...

drifting grove
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Newbie asking questions here. I got my hands on a used Raspberry Pi 3 (new ones aren't available atm) with a 16GB memory card. Do you think that's enough to setup my first server? Or should I just go and buy a 32GB card? What exactly is the disk space needed? I'm planning to control my heat pump, Verisure and a Danfoss floor heating thermostat initially.

full rampart
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However, if you want an SD card to last, beware that some brands last less until first corruption. And generally a proper SSD will last even longer than a good SD card.

mighty rover
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is zigbee or zwave better if i need window sensors and remote switches? Reed from Smart Home Solver told me one of the two was getting antiquated but I cant remember which

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i have a friend coming from the states to me in mexico and i want to find a good hub for home assistant

drifting grove
full rampart
distant dove
civic kraken
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I wouldn't bother with 30leds/meter (3.2 feet?) and I'd seriously consider RGBW (with a white LED) strips instead of just RGB. You can also buy the controller and the strip separately

distant dove
gloomy elbow
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I'm looking to add some fun cabinet lighting, ideally USB powered (in an IKEA Kallax, should that help anyone make recommendations). I was originally thinking small round puck lights in each cube, but the ones I had in mind (IKEA Ledberg, I was going to take it apart and try and wire it to ESPHome) are no longer sold. I plan to place these centre-front of the cubes as I have lights behind each cube already.
Would you look for a LED strip with a decent #zigbee-archived controller, pick up some puck lights and try to wire them into a decent controller, or something else? I'd prefer Zigbee or ESPHome, and I'm in the UK.
These are what I'm eyeing up right now: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09HY98GF3/

winged knoll
runic tinsel
# mighty rover is zigbee or zwave better if i need window sensors and remote switches? Reed fro...

The Zwave support in HA is now excellent. Those devices tend to be a bit more premium, are more or less guaranteed to work with each other and the firmwares present configurations in a very easy to read manner. Zigbee devices can be much cheaper, although once you try to find something high quality that works it often costs75% of zwave. They are not guaranteed to be compatible, so you have to be careful what you buy. I have both. I’ve ended up with Zigbee for lights, sensors and buttons/switches and Zwave for smart plugs and things that get wired behind the light switches like dimmers etc

winged knoll
runic tinsel
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I would say that in Europe the Zwave selection is not so wide as in the US.

gloomy elbow
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I forgot about that 😂

winged knoll
gloomy elbow
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I'll be shoving the controller into the nerd's nest known as "that space I made to shove devices and cables into", so I don't mind not pretty 😄

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(Well, I want the lights to be pretty.)

civic kraken
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With closed cabinets I just use some dumb battery power PIR led bar thingies. Open the door and they just light up and that's all I need

gloomy elbow
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These are permanently open and behind me on all my videos (which there are a lot of). So sadly that won't work. I wish!

tawny moss
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I'm looking to replace my WiFi meross powerstrips by some zwave or zigbee ones (haven't decided yet which one between the two I'll choose)
Do you have any brand recommendations? Power measurement would be nice, 4 plugs and I live in Europe

jaunty panther
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(I'm only using this chat since I am new and this is an active channel rn... Sry in advance) Where would I see people talking about the new update?

civic kraken
civic kraken
gloomy elbow
jaunty panther
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So is 11.5 a good one?

winged knoll
jaunty panther
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Ok

winged knoll
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It's got nothing to do with hardware 😉

jaunty panther
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Thanks

jaunty panther
trim needle
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can anyone recommend an intercom system?

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i'm trying to stay away from the typical so that it's not succeptible to eavesdropping

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just trying to come up with a solution for home because i've got sickly family

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this way i can put a speaker in each room and if they need something just say it over the system and wherever i'm at i can know what they need

gloomy elbow
gloomy elbow
trim needle
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same reason i'm waiting for HA to have better voice options lol

gloomy elbow
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I think you may struggle to be honest. I'm sure some people have something set up, but your problem will be finding the speakers with a decent microphone array built in

trim needle
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very fair opinion 🙂

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i'm thinking maybe put BT speakers and mics in each room

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i could identify the room based on which mic signals back to the server

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if a few happen to overlap it'll still at least work

gloomy elbow
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Did you try searching the forums to see if anyone has already done this? I suspect someone has and has mentioned what hardware they used 🙂

trim needle
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i just thought about it today 🙂

elfin robin
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Anybody in here have a good suggestion for an Exterior lux/temp/motion sensor that is both rated for cold weather (into negative F), as well as Zigbee?

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battery powered

tawny moss
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😫 Looks like the only eu zigbee powerstrips that I could find with 4 plugs and power monitoring, only has 3 plugs manageable and one always on? Bruh...

burnt chasm
# lavish heath so you actually want to build a superbad power supply 😄

lol ... you can bet that ones enough people discover that 'trick' the companies will find a way to get their money ...
It's also not exactly good if you are too much out of phase.
Heck ... they might think you are cheating if your power consumption is too far below average.
tl;dr;
it's a cheat and it kind of works, but just hope it doesn't get too popular.

keen flame
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Has anyone successfully mounted a USB drive into HA? I'm having a hell of a time getting it to read files correctly.

cinder solstice
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I have a question about new bluetooth proxies + devices + integration interplay between them - is this the right channel to discuss that topic?

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essentially I got blackadder's gl-s10 BTProxy working in home assistant and now I want to go one step further to control lights that i know work via bluetooth

long bramble
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Does anyone have a low profile solution for mounting a sonoff mini to din rail. I would like to tidy up the upstairs lights and centralise the minis

full rampart
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I just spent hours trying to figure out why my esphome devices weren't connecting to the "new" AP. They weren't seeing it because they aren't scanning channel 13.

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Does anybody know if the hardware in esp8266 can connect to channel 13?

glossy prism
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Is your 2.4GHz band set to 20MHz width?

full rampart
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Perhaps I should check that too.

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I don't seem to find channel width using nmcli and I wanted to be resting a fair three hours ago. I'll keep digging in the evening.

glossy prism
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Check your wireless router and/or AP settings?

full rampart
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It's a soft ap using a dongle because for some reason the integrated WiFi of the pi3b started throwing a tantrum.

glossy prism
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Oh that definitely changes things then

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The ESPHome devices aren't connected to your LAN?

indigo garden
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Hey guys. I plugged a USB Speaker/mic combo into my RPI4, then rebooted the hardware.
The speaker shows as an output, but the mic doesn't show up as an input. Any ideas?

indigo garden
jagged crypt
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did you verify if it shows up on your pc?

indigo garden
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I'm unable to solve this as of yet

jagged crypt
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does it show up from the cli with "arecord -l" ?

indigo garden
jagged crypt
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you said on a rpi4, and showed a screen shot of tiny bit of a config, wasn't sure

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you obviously can see the usb device if you have the speaker option, my guess is some simple config is needed to define the microphone.

indigo garden
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I wouldn't have any idea what that would be

jagged crypt
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did you reboot the pi after plugging in the usb ?

indigo garden
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Yes, and that's the video I've been following. It just worked for him where it doesn't for me.

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See 5:47

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That's what I screenshotted

jagged crypt
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reboot and try again

indigo garden
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I've tried that a half dozen times now 😅

jagged crypt
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i figured, but had to ask

indigo garden
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Fair enough. I just have no clue what's going on.

summer igloo
burnt chasm
# summer igloo Does anybody else have issues turning fairy lights on and off using a smart swit...

I've got a simple zwave switch and I'm using a basic automation to control a few of my hue lights.
The hard part was discovering what events to listen to.
I used the development - event tab for that.

The concept is this :
= trigger on event
= check status of light
= if on then turn it off
= if off then turn it on
Of course you could simply use the 'toggle light' function if if is just a single light

indigo garden
rough parrot
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Hi there, hope someone can advise what is going on with my HAOS on Raspberry Pi. Works great for a few days, then the web interface just stops loading and both lights on the pi (red and green) stay constantly lit.

I'm not any type of coder or programer, it's like reading Klingon. I see it says out of memory tho.

Can someone guide me what I need to do to get it working again? A reboot always does the trick, but after a 2 weeks of reboots, I need another solution.

Thanks

https://imgur.com/a/DOCcPw8

jagged crypt
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well the big words "OUT OF MEMORY" should be a clear indication of whats going on

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you either need to remove things from your HA install (too many add-ons) or upgrade to a different host (pi, pc, etc)

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you decided to add influx/grafana addons, which are killing your pi. Uninstall them, you should be fine.

rough parrot
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Will try! Thank you

rough parrot
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Done.

While I'm here, I tried searching this server to no avail, what does device descriptor read/64, error -71 mean?

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Says USB,. But I do not have any usbs plugged in, just HDMI and power

jagged crypt
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keyboard, mouse? no idea without more context

rough parrot
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Nothing else plugged in

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No keyboard or mouse

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What other context can I add?

gloomy elbow
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You can still check that website, just open the sidebar 😉

full rampart
# glossy prism The ESPHome devices aren't connected to your LAN?

I have a separate WLAN for the esp devices, isolated from my main LAN. Home assistant being what is connected to both. So far I use the pi 3B's WiFi as an access point for that one. But it's proven unreliable. I unplugged it before sleep and plugged it in a few hours ago. The integrated WiFi of the pi works again. I have a few spare access points, though I'm reticent to dedicating some of my ubiquiti hardware to the IoT WLAN. Mostly because of watts and watt hours.

jagged crypt
rough parrot
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Interesting. It's the stock canakit plug. 5v / 2.5a

jagged crypt
full rampart
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough. All my ubiquiti gear is my spare gear. It's older nanostation stuff. 10/100 stuff when my main LAN is 1000 and my uplink 300. And it's not like I think I necessarily need to buy hardware for this, but I need to test the power usage of the access points I got around. VLANs sound like a good idea, though. For now I'll put the new AP configuration on backlog as I have more urgent matters to cater to.

tough quiver
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How do I find out which ports are being used on the host? I can't load Unifi anymore because it says that port 10001 is already in use.

crude flax
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Hello, I have since tonight the problem that my Home Assistant OS VM no longer starts. Also no access via SSH. I can only get to the Proxmox console via SSH.
Help, what can I do now?

winged knoll
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Hello I have since tonight the problem

full rampart
quartz anvil
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I have a fresh HAOS installation on RPI4 and problems with Wifi hw. I have tried to wake it up with nmcli etc but not working.

wise gorge
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sensor:

  • platform: serial
    serial_port: /dev/ttyUSB0
    name: smartmeter

Shouldn't this be enough to get the usb m.bus device pop-up under "hardware" ?

quartz anvil
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nmcli dev status wlan0 wifi disconnected.

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any ideas?

winged knoll
quartz anvil
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I guess I have already installed this and now want to connect wifi. HW seems to be missing. Maybe it is installation issue then.

winged knoll
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You should try reading the channel topic 😉

wise gorge
quartz anvil
winged knoll
wise gorge
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docker-compose

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on mint..

winged knoll
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Did you pass that device through into the container?

wise gorge
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Thanks! No i have not.

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Will read

unborn igloo
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Hey has anyone the Bosch twinguard smoke detectors? i am just wondering how to connect them, do I need an extra Bosch bridge or can I somehow "directly" connect them to home assistant?

forest goblet
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Would an 8th gen i5 be enough for homeassistant as well as 4k streaming?

winged knoll
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Should be fine

forest goblet
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Feels so weird to me that CPU only processing has gotten that good for video playback, just a little bit ago trying to watch something right in VLC on a laptop could be laggy if it was 1080 and a good bitrate.

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to say nothing of kodi+steamlink streaming to a dumb tv needing an unreasonable amount of beef.

winged knoll
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Well, unless there's transcoding involved streaming has next to no CPU impact

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You can stream 4K content from a Pi

forest goblet
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0_o. There must be an absurd amount of overhead involved in steamlink streaming then because even Kodi, resource hog though it can be, used to run on a literal xbox.

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Well, spiffy. Found a guy selling a secondhand HP Prodesk mini with an 8th gen i5, 8gb ram, and a 256gb ssd for a sane price compared to intel NUCs. Even better than I could do putting one together myself actually. It'll make a great little low-draw box.

tawny moss
winged knoll
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@drifting grove I'd recommend you look to Zigbee, that's 100% local. Of course, you need working Internet access to install and update HA (and any other software)

drifting grove
winged knoll
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Bridge ... we don't need not stinking bridges...

outer knotBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

winged knoll
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If you want something that's 100% local then you're going to have to accept that you can't just buy the cheapest Tuya crap you can find

drifting grove
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I see!... starting to realise that 😐

winged knoll
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On the up side, it means you also don't discover the hard way that buying cheap is a waste of time and money 😉

drifting grove
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yap! that is something i try to avoid... wasting money on cheap promises that wont work for me

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still, I saw some folks on youtube that after integration with tuya cloud they are able to configure 'local tuya''

winged knoll
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So... don't buy Tuya 😉

drifting grove
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they bring some keys from cloud into HA

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but anyway... i think it always requires cloud 1st setup

winged knoll
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Honestly, Tuya is the brand that's most often recommended to avoid on this server

drifting grove
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LoL

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ok, understood!! looking for future would you go with zigbee or zwave?

civic kraken
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zigbee

winged knoll
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Also

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I answered that already...

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Zigbee is cheaper than Z-Wave, devices aren't region locked, and it's (relatively) higher bandwidth than Z-Wave

drifting grove
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for my first project I would like to be able to control a power socket to power on/off a heater once temperature is bellow/above threshold