android-archived

[long lagoon]

This might also depend on how your device handles turning mobile data "off". In developer settings I have a toggle "Mobile data always active", on by default, which keeps the connection and it stats always alive even when I manually turn mobile data off.

"as we need to" would require the app checking if the mobile app integration is active, which probably should be done in onboarding (and block continuing, as it also means webhooks etc will fail)

If you're on 2022.6+ and the mobile app integration exists, it should basically always sync because there might be changes made in core

[flint osprey]

actually what I meant was that we shoud only sync disabled sensor state as a new sensor is added or if the enabled state changes

before 2022.6 the code would only promote the sensorworker to foreground only one or more sensors are enabled

[remote vine]

thx, I will research into that
(it does sound like smh that affects battery life thou)

[flint osprey]

now every 15 min it will promote and sync sensors even if they are all disabled

[long lagoon]

If you disable everything in the app, it still needs to sync because you might have enabled a sensor on the server

[flint osprey]

ah that makes sense

[long lagoon]

Battery life: probably, but also how much considering it already has a connection active for calls etc?

Some manufacturers clearly think it's not that significant, otherwise the option wouldn't exist

[acoustic scarab]

https://github.com/home-assistant/android/issues/2605

[quartz stone]

with notifications, is it possible to set it so that tapping on the notification does nothing, rather than the default of opening ha?

[flint osprey]

might be doable, best to create a feature request on github so the team can investigate

[quartz stone]

kay, will do

[deep parrot]

Thanks. I asked that same question a month ago but didn't submit a request. 🙂

[abstract atlas]

Updated to 2022.6.0-full. Still not more information from customViews.

[long lagoon]

In that case I'm afraid there's not really an easy solution for this...

[urban crag]

Today I've noticed that the app has used a lot more battery than normal (the app has updated to 2022.6.0-full don't know if that has any bearing).
Checking the battery usage in Android, it looks like the app's background usage was almost 3.5 hours in a 6 hour period (from when the phone was taken off charge this morning), and over 1200 mAh of battery used. The battery level had gone down to 20% by then.
I've not changed anything regarding enabled sensors. The only thing I changed recently was changing the websocket connection to be only open when the screen is on (I previously had it only open when connected to WiFi). Do you have any ideas what could be causing this?

[flint osprey]

the persistent connection could indeed lead to more battery drain in the backgroudn. on my pixel 6 pro I hardly notice it but other users have different experiences with it

some other things to check would be https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/troubleshooting/faqs/#android-app-battery-drain

[urban crag]

I only have the persistent connection open when the screen's on, but I did find that I had the "Include in sensor updates" option turned on for Single Accurate Location, so I've just turned that off (and disabled a few sensors) to see if that makes a difference.

[tribal glen]

Anecdotally, I think my battery life has taken a noticeable dip from one of the recent app tester builds. I update pretty regularly

[flint osprey]

how recent would you say?

[tribal glen]

In the last week-ish.

I need to find some data to see if it's real though and not just my imagination

[urban crag]

Changing the Single Accurate Location settings doesn't appear to have made much difference, the battery is down to 48% after aroun 4 hours. Is it possible that the syncing of enabled sensors with HA 2022.6 is causing the increased drain? I don't think it was as bad as this before updating HA and the app.

[long lagoon]

If any sensors are enabled, the impact should be extremely small as it syncs during the regular sensor update

[tribal glen]

For a sensor that is updated very frequently, does the new WS behavior send updates to the device with each state change vs then phone checking in?

And that sensor is on a dashboard.

[flint osprey]

depends on the sensor still, the push/poll behavior has not changed

[glossy moat]

Hi, I set up a quick access tile to be tied to a Button entity, but when I press it, it says 'Unable to send service call", what could be the issue here?

The app open is open and i can control HASS etc

and i can press the button entity from dashboard

only the tile doesn't work

[magic leaf]

hey I'm having a problem with one of my android apps:
The location reported by it only works part time, more or less only when it's in town (I have a zone for in town).
What do I need to make sure of that it reports correctly?

I've already taken it out of battery optimization, granted highest possible GPS permission and it's a OnePlus Nord.

in comparison to my app, which works totally fine, this updated only like 10 times in the last 600 hours...
Currently it should display out of country tbh.

PS: I'm using a Dynamic DNS with http to connect to HA from outside of the network.
I do not have the NC subscription.

[long lagoon]

Can you try using the developer tools in HA to see if the 'Button: Press' service works correctly with the button you've selected for the quick settings tile? That will be similar to what the app does when you tap on the tile. If the button press works correctly there, you'll have to go to the logs in the app for error details.

[glossy moat]

Does work correctly

How do I record logs for the app

[long lagoon]

Settings > Companion app > Show and share logs

Press the qs tile before opening the logs 🙂

Search for Click detected for tile ID: in the logs, it should be followed by Unable to call service for tile ID: and the error message

[magic leaf]

need help with this

[flint osprey]

https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/troubleshooting/faqs/#device-tracker-is-not-updating-in-android-app check these steps and if the issue still exists keep reading and look at the logs

[tribal glen]

I was trying to do a clever graph/query in grafana of battery % with charger type to show how long it was off battery and the last % before being plugged back in. I have it sort of visualized but its not very helpful without being able to mouseover to see the durations off battery. Starting on 6/6 I do see my battery draining faster for normal off-charger durations. I need to see what i did on that day.

are there any app logs or ha logs that would show if i updated the app on that day?

[long lagoon]

The Play Store will show you when an app was last updated (profile picture > Manage apps & device > Manage)

[tribal glen]

Thanks. I get most updates though app tester and update pretty frequently. Play store says 9th

Maybe a feature request for an app version sensor

[magic leaf]

Ohh okay thank you!

[flint osprey]

already exists 🙂

[tribal glen]

Bah I bet I don't thave it on

Fixed. Is the version in the user agent?

[flint osprey]

yup, version name, flavor and build model https://github.com/home-assistant/android/blob/master/common/src/main/java/io/homeassistant/companion/android/common/data/HomeAssistantApis.kt#L22

[tribal glen]

ok good, if only i had access logs enabled in traefik...

[zinc dawn]

in an android tablet i get a "flickering" screen after the HA app its open and left unattended for 4 - 10 minutes, anyone knows why?

[flint osprey]

First time I've heard of it and I have a few Amazon tablets around the house. Check if you can reproduce in chrome for Android on the same device.

[zinc dawn]

in chrome works good but the app got that issue 😕

[flint osprey]

Check that Android system WebView is up to date, it should also be using googles version

[cobalt sinew]

Can I make the companion app loudly announce that the garage door is still open in case my wife once again drives off and forgets it?

[long lagoon]

http://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/critical-notifications[#android-archived](/guild/330944238910963714/channel/562408603345092636/)-text-to-speech-alarm-stream-max-volume

[zinc dawn]

Just updated it and now does less flickering but right away, this is so weird in other devices i dont have that problem

[flint osprey]

what device is it?

[zinc dawn]

Samsung Galaxy tab s2

[flint osprey]

any custom cards?

[zinc dawn]

yes
From hacs:
custom:weather-card
weather.home

And also i got the webpage card showing a continuous cbs news streaming, (dont judge me i see news all the time) 🤓

Do you think i need to disable and see if one of those are the problem?

[flint osprey]

that was my next suggestion 🙂

[zinc dawn]

well that was it, the weather card was doing the flickering, its a shame because i really like that card, thank you!

[flint osprey]

file an issue with the author, might just need an update

[real forum]

Can ha app show multiple persistent sticky notifications (android)? I'm missing a notification on my phone, but automation log reports that it succeeded. I'm not sure if the second notification will override the first one

[flint osprey]

depends on the notification you sent, if you used the tag option then it will replace the text

also if the app was updated or force stopped any posted notification will also be removed at that time....unless its a service like the persistent connection

but to answer your question, yes you can do multiple persistent notifications 🙂

[real forum]

There's a different way of doing rather than using the tag option?

[flint osprey]

use a different tag for each one you want

its a requirement because you need a tag to clear the notification later on

[real forum]

Action should be unique too?

[flint osprey]

doesn't have to be, that all depends on your automations and needs

[real forum]

Jist want that one automation doesn't interfere with another. For precaution i did make them all unique, but if that doesn't create issues, would probably make my life easier in maintaining them

[flint osprey]

the actionable notification key gets sent back with the event so depending on your automation and needs will depend on what value you want it to be. making it unique means any automation you had based on that event and action key will not fire. https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/actionable-notifications

[real forum]

Thanks

[worldly zenith]

Hi, I want to know if there is a way to get the apk file of the chip-tool for android ready for installation or if there is a beginner's guide to get it from the source code. Thanks

[flint osprey]

i think you may be in the wrong discord server possibly?

[zinc dawn]

any updated manuals to send a screen off command to android HA app?

[shadow cosmos]

sorry to ask this question but i'd really appreciate an answer if someone knows. i saw posts in jan about the latest shield experience breaking integration with HA. does anyone know if this has been resolved? i havent been using my shield (2017) as i've recently moved - its still on the previous version. all my googling/searching in this discord is showing me info from january

[worldly zenith]

Asked about android chip-tool for matter..it is wrong server?

[flint osprey]

Oh you might be looking for #devs_matter-archived this channel is meant for the home assistant Android app support

[worldly zenith]

Ok.thanks

[zinc dawn]

i did it with an app called automate, posting here in case someone find it useful 😎

[flint osprey]

your best bet is to ask in #general-archived or check recent release notes.....I am not 100% sure if it has been fixed, you can also check the alerts page. This channel is actually for the official android app and not the android tv integration

[silver socket]

Anyone using the fully kiosk app? It was working fine a few weeks ago and now I just get the home assistant load screen.

If I start home assistant normally it works fine

[flint osprey]

Try in #general-archived as this channel is for the official Android app

[shadow cosmos]

my apologies, thanks for the reply

[zinc dawn]

Anyone has this problem? when my tablet has been idle for to long it doesn’t wake up with the HA screen on command. It just works if I used the tablet recently.

[long lagoon]

It might be possible that the notification command is delayed when the tablet has been idle for some time. Have you tried sending it as a critical notification? https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/critical-notifications#android

[flint osprey]

could also be missing background permissions too

[leaden hill]

I've set up mobile notifications, it's working well for my android phone, but my partner's (Redmi Note 7) just not displaying any notifications until the companion app is actually opened. Persistent notifications on the android side are set-up, tried defining a channel, setting the importance to urgent, priority to high, ttl to zero, having a separate channel. No dice.

Seems to me that specific Android OS (miui thingie) just makes a goal out of killing the companion app once it's on the background, which is weird as other notification-heavy apps (namely discord and signal) are doing fine

[zinc dawn]

thanks seems like this solve the issue! 😋

[flint osprey]

Check background permissions

[leaden hill]

They're reportedly all enabled

[flint osprey]

this site has some good tips on things to check as some manufacturers add more background killing stuff https://dontkillmyapp.com/

[kindred gulch]

I have a New smartphone and i cant login to HA with it.. it says my password is incorrect, but the HA Log shows "Login attempt op request with invalid authentication from... " how dk i fix this? I know the password is correct

[long lagoon]

"invalid authentication"sounds a lot like a wrong password to me. Try logging in in a browser on your new smartphone, if it doesn't work there either this is probably unrelated to the app and #general-archived is the best place to ask.

[kindred gulch]

I've got a New phone, And the notifications work just fine, except for the tts messages (Alarm_stream_max i think) anyone knows how to fix this? (Android 12, samsung galaxy a52)

[deep parrot]

Does Entity state complication being merged into master 7 hours ago mean that it will be in the release on Sunday? https://github.com/home-assistant/android/pull/2574

[long lagoon]

If playback fails, you should see a message pop-up near the bottom of the screen. Did you see that message, or nothing at all? If nothing, check in HA settings > Companion app > Notification history to see if it was received.
Check that a text-to-speech engine is selected and up to date in Settings > Accessibility, preferably "Speech Services by Google".

[long lagoon]

Yes it should be!

[deep parrot]

Nice. I didn't understand the battery/refresh discussions. Will it have a big impact on battery? Do we configure update interval ourselves?

[long lagoon]

The battery impact should be limited and the update interval cannot be configured

[deep parrot]

How often is it updated?

[long lagoon]

When the screen is turned on, and periodically in the background (the app requests every 15 min but Wear OS decides)

And you can tap on the complication to update it as well

[deep parrot]

So if used on AOD it will update every 15 minutes without going into interactive mode?

[long lagoon]

Yes, approximately

[deep parrot]

Nice

[worldly zenith]

Hi guys

is there any way to get custom pop ups to work in lovelace whithin the companion app?

I know it can be done via browser with browser_mod but what about having them straight into the app?

[kind path]

Does anyone know all the ways I can check permissions? All if a sudden it's not detecting me away from home. I've checked sensors, permissions, everything I could find. (Galaxy S20, Android 12)

[flint osprey]

first check the steps here, then check the logs if it still doesnt update https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/troubleshooting/faqs/#device-tracker-is-not-updating-in-android-app

[flint osprey]

you'll probably have better luck asking the author of browser_mod directly

[kind path]

While poking around the app it's showing the address I'm at right now but HA is displaying me home so it is tracking me but not giving it to HA it seems

[flint osprey]

check the steps mentioned, geocoded location sensor is not the same as the device tracker

[drowsy lodge]

when i change a group of helpers on my android device and save it does not update. don't know if this is a know bug.

[flint osprey]

sounds like a #frontend-archived bug and not app related

[real forum]

When digging into addons pages, is it expected behavior that pressing the top left back button sends me just one page back? I find myself clicking repeatedly the button until I can access again Tha main menu

[long lagoon]

I don't know if it's expected, but I'm also frequently frustrated by it

It's not specific to the app, so maybe someone in #frontend-archived can help

[gusty tangle]

Mornin' (well, for some at least). I am trying to troubleshoot an issue with the latest Companion App on Android (Samsun Galaxy S21 Ultra) and notifications. When I get a notification, it never includes the image and no matter which URL I add, it never follows the clickAction URL, it always goes to the remote dashboard (via Nabu Casa).

I have followed suggestions here: https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/troubleshooting/faqs/

and following guidelines here: https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/notifications-basic

plus the latest video from The Hook Up here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUAUdLkYJM

I have tried persistent connections on and off, tried different prioritites

I am sure it is something silly, but I could use some additional guidance

[flint osprey]

Can you share the automation? Hard to tell what's going on

[olive jolt]

Hi Guys, I have bunch of automation that trigger when I am home (using Android app) the past 2-3 weeks, it sometimes takes up to 20 min for HA to update my location, I have made sure there is no Battery saving feature on for it, is there anything else I can do to speed up location update (1-2 min update)?
Phone is : S10+

[hybrid gazelle]

A few things to try:

1. Use the sensor that reports the WiFi connection to create a device tracker/binary sensor, whatever (eg https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/blob/live/automation/people/person1/person1_wifi_status.yaml and https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/blob/live/device_tracker/mqtt_person.yaml#L6)
2. Don't use the app, use Bluetooth (eg https://github.com/andrewjfreyer/monitor or the built in Bluetooth tracker)

[flint osprey]

First start with these steps https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/troubleshooting/faqs/#device-tracker-is-not-updating-in-android-app then look at the mentioned logs if the issue continues. It is also expected for the app to skip updates if location has not changed for 15 minutes. The logs will show the entire decision making process for sending a location update.

You can also look into using high accuracy mode

[sullen tendon]

Is there any way to self-host the Mobile App notifications? I was writing a Script and accidentally used a String as my count for a repeat which resulted in me pretty much immediately using up my rate limit. I'm not sure if potentially the endpoint for that may be hardcoded into the apps or even the integration in Home Assistant, but figured I may as well ask.

I believe I have solved the problem in my Script, but I won't be able to truly verify that until midnight UTC 😦 I figure if I were to self-host, I could likely not enforce a rate limit since I doubt I'd be doing anything to ever cause that to be a problem for the 2 users in my setup.

[long lagoon]

For testing, you might want to enable the persistent connection in the app's settings

The app will then directly communicate with your server to receive notifications and the rate limit does not apply (it does slightly increase battery usage)

Completely self-hosting the notification service on Firebase is more difficult, as the url is indeed hardcoded into the app

[sullen tendon]

Ooo, interesting! I'll have to look for that setting. I was able to finish testing using logger.log, but I'll definitely use that in the future. Thanks!

[leaden hill]

What's the user management best practice for a "kiosk-mode" tablet running the HomeAssistant android app ? I'm going for a dedicated user, but I wondered if there were better alternatives

[flint osprey]

theres really no best practice here, its whatever works for your use case....personally I just sign into my own account and call it a day

[leaden hill]

gtocha

my own account has full admin rights so I'm sticking to a less privileged user for this unprotected tablet

thanks

[worldly zenith]

Hi guys

I'm trying to use a custom font through the APP. In my web browser it does show up but it won't work in the app

where should I install the font? in HA itself?

or in the tablet hosting the app?

[dusky path]

Hi Guys, Would someone be able to help me? I am trying to the Z2M Frontend GUI to work via the HA APP on Android, But I just get '401: Unauthorised', I use the app via Nabu Casa? I guess I need to create a cert or token but not too such what to do.

[deep parrot]

I can access Z2M via Nabu Casa and haven't set up any cert or token etc.

Did you follow this? https://github.com/zigbee2mqtt/hassio-zigbee2mqtt#installation

[flint osprey]

so it works in Chrome for android on the same device?

[deep parrot]

Should this be available now for complications for Pujie Black? https://github.com/home-assistant/android/pull/2574

[deep parrot]

It doesn't show up when I select Customize - Interactive - Custom complications and then External data providers. I only have Fit, General and TicHealth there.

[flint osprey]

make sure you are on the latest beta

[deep parrot]

I am. Play says last updated June 25th

[flint osprey]

try a different watch face maybe? i was able to set a complication using the stock watch face

[deep parrot]

Good tip. That worked, thanks. Will go bother Pujie instead. 🙂

[deep parrot]

Got it working. 🙂

When selecting entity for the complication, is it intended that all entity groups are expanded by default? It's a bit cumbersome. Of course a search function would be awesome.

[flint osprey]

I think right now it almost matches the shortcut selection except it shows all the groups, the initial PR was really big so makes sense to split things up

[deep parrot]

But shouldn't the groups be collapsed? So you would choose group and then entity?

I have to hit the - symbol to collapse like 20 groups before I see the list of sensors and then scroll through that list to find the temperature sensor I need.

[flint osprey]

as of right now the behavior is similar to selecting favorite entities in settings, all groups are expanded there....could always submit a feature request to improve things 🙂

i agree its not the best format to select them in but first PR and its a beta feature 🙂

i think quickest navigation here would probably be areas followed by domains like the home screen does...hard to decide what makes sense here

[deep parrot]

Is search possible?

[flint osprey]

yea that could be doable

[deep parrot]

It seems like when using Pujie you have to select the entities for the complication every time you send a new preset to the watch. Which means changing watchfaces with complications back and forth is quite time consuming. 😛

[flint osprey]

how does it behave with other complications? I think Wear OS tells the app its ready for a complication and we end up showing the select screen there...not entirely sure how that bit works

[stark ferry]

Are there any mobile app logs anywhere? My phone keeps popping up a message saying that the app keeps stopping, but whenever I open the app it's totally fine. And when I check the HA logs, I don't see any errors around the time it happens, except some warning about my govee API exceeding the rate limit

[flint osprey]

Configuration > Companion App > Show and Share Logs

if it crashed you should see a last crash tab on that page or something similar

[stark ferry]

Huh, that's a weird error

If I'm reading that right, it's complaining about a button having either a width or height less than or equal to 0?

[long lagoon]

Probably related to a recent change for the icons on buttons

Which version of the app are you using?

[stark ferry]

beta-2432-4a59a20d-full

[long lagoon]

I'm guessing it's caused by https://github.com/home-assistant/android/pull/2625 because that is included in that version and introduced code that calculates width/height

Could you create an issue on GitHub with the full crash log? The line numbers that aren't visible in your screenshot should confirm it :)

[stark ferry]

As someone who is not very familiar with GitHub, do I just go to that page you linked, go to the issues tab, and click on "New Issue"? Or is there somewhere else to do it?

[long lagoon]

Yes, New issue and then choose Bug report

[stark ferry]

I just submitted it, thanks! Although I didn't see an option to choose Bug Report, so hopefully I still did it right

[long lagoon]

Combined with the information here it should be enough to fix it, thanks!

[flint osprey]

weird, wonder why its returning as 0

or a negative number 😛

[long lagoon]

I guess you had to log in (again)? Sometimes it doesn't show the issue templates in that case (so no Bug report option)

[flint osprey]

i tihnk its login before going to create an issue, long standing github bug

[stark ferry]

I was also doing it on mobile, so I may have missed something.

But I did log in after going to the submit issue page, so that could be it as well

[flint osprey]

how many button widgets do you have?

[stark ferry]

If there's any other info you need, just let me know 🙂

Just 3

[flint osprey]

ok and in the Manage Widgets screen you have jsut those 3 right?

[stark ferry]

Let me check

[flint osprey]

there was a bug a while ago where widgets got removed but they remained in teh database

[stark ferry]

I have 10 widgets in the manage widgets screen

[flint osprey]

of those 10 only 3 are button widgets?

[stark ferry]

I don't use any of the buttons anymore

I only use the garage, upstairs, and downstairs entity state widgets

I don't know why all the entities are listed twice though.

[flint osprey]

if they are no longer on your home screen then you can delete them by editing them from here

[flint osprey]

there was an issue a while back where all widgets were removed and users ahd to recreate them

they still exist in the database

you can edit the widget and give it a new temporary name to determine which one to delete

if you long press the widget from the home screen you can hit the edit button to edit that specific widget

[stark ferry]

Alright, I'll give that a go. You think that'll stop the crashes?

[flint osprey]

the crashes are from the button widgets specifically, so if they no longer exist on your home screen you can try removing them from this screen

im not sure if it will stop the crashes though, that may require a code fix

[long lagoon]

If the button widgets aren't in the database, they won't be updated so it should stop the crash popups right now

[stark ferry]

Cool. I've deleted all the ones I'm not using anymore, so hopefully that does the trick! Thanks for all the help guys!

[flint osprey]

I wonder if we need to look into adding a mechanism to check for existing widgets and remove as needed, we must have more users who have lingering widgets

we discovered a while ago that if you refactor widgets and move their location, then they no longer show up on the home screen

[velvet compass]

hey why doesn't the app have access to the accelerometer, gyro, magnetic sensors of the phone?

[dusky path]

Yes I have followed the instal guide, it works fine locally via Web Browser, but via Android app I just get 401 error.

[flint osprey]

nobody has requested it and also the data would be updated very irregularly so it wouldn't be worthwhile for any automations

[flint osprey]

looking at the zigbee2mqtt github issues, I see one user discovered they needed to use local IP address https://github.com/zigbee2mqtt/hassio-zigbee2mqtt/issues/160

[velvet compass]

how can I make a request? for accelerometer, that is

it would allow old phones to be used as door sensors

[main talon]

<imagines an old phone duct taped to a door>

[velvet compass]

that is exactly how I have it :)) complete with charger sticking out

[flint osprey]

Don't think it would be fast enough for that

[flint osprey]

On GitHub

[velvet compass]

thank you

[quartz forum]

Do you have tasker? Could probably test whether its feasible with that

[velvet compass]

I don't, no, can't get it either

right now I am using the proximity sensor though, in a similar manner

rope attached to door, and a card that slides down in front of the sensor when the door opens

[quartz forum]

do you have pictures? I feel like I need to see this lol

[velvet compass]

could take some

this is how I used to have it before (same sensor)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgZ9uSGO1sQ

[quartz forum]

definitely creative. How's the response time?

[velvet compass]

the response time is near instant, although it does malfunction now and again

[quartz forum]

wow. that's a new one. I haven't done much with the proximity sensor, how close to the phone does that piece on the door have to be to trigger it?

[velvet compass]

8mm

I got the vid of how it is now, it's uploading

[quartz forum]

did you consider nfc by any chance? looking it says 1-5cm distance for a read which is slightly further away but also not such a precise location on the phone. Maybe attach an nfc tag to the back of the door, a magnet bit to the top so it actually sticks to the wall and then precisely place the phone in the range?

[velvet compass]

no, the locus is very precise, right at the top of the phone, to the right

[quartz forum]

ah. well either way if you do a magnet bit so it kind of sticks to hte wall you could probably place it right in the right spot? It just looked like in the video like you had to very carefully close the door as it is which seems error prone

[velvet compass]

but I totally get what you're sayin with nfc. Could do

yeah the way in that video was buggy. the new one with the pulley is better. but it stil malfunctions because of the rope (sometimes):

https://youtu.be/C8dhSig0-7Y

[flint osprey]

wow thats using the apps proximity sensor? i assume with fast updates enabled? which is about once per minute

[velvet compass]

yes

[flint osprey]

ok if your ok with that delay then the sensor you are requesting will be possible....in this case the app will probably just pass the raw values https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/sensors/sensors_motion

[velvet compass]

at the end, the door opens and the rope pulls the card over the sensor

[velvet compass]

how can I use this

oh you meant in the future, I see

[flint osprey]

yea we would create sensors very similar to proximity/light/pressure

[velvet compass]

@quartz forum did you get a chance to see this? https://youtu.be/C8dhSig0-7Y

[velvet compass]

nice!

sorry for @

ping

[quartz forum]

yea I did. I see what you mean about the accuracy issues, the pulley eliminates that

[velvet compass]

indeed

but now the rope is the issue. too much friction and too much travel

well, the former is a consequence of the latter

[quartz forum]

yea I was thinking that, was looking a bit frayed in the video

[velvet compass]

yes I will replace

gonna try some coated metal wire (soft)

[quartz forum]

out of curiosity, what lead you down this route as opposed to like a zigbee sensor? Since it looks like the phone is just a contact sensor. Or is the plan to do the continuous video playback bit again?

[velvet compass]

that continuous vid playback is what lead me down this route, cos the phone will be running for that anyways so might as well use the other sensors too

a motion sensor would have been far easier to implement, sure, but I wouldn't get to learn all this new way of looking at things :))

[quartz forum]

lol that is true

[velvet compass]

it's like, the less you pay, the more you learn

like money actually buys ignorance haha

ultimately, that's what we pay for, ennit: the comfort

[quartz forum]

that is true I suppose

[quartz forum]

Could also try fishing line maybe if you've got some. Doesn't really fray. Not sure how heavy that bit is on the end but probably fine for it?

[velvet compass]

wow that's a great idea. Don't have any, but will get some. yes the piece at the end is heavy, that's why I needed it so bulky, to pull on the rope but because the rope frayed it gets stuck

the fishing wire will make this flawless. maybe I'll get some lube for it too

[quartz forum]

yea I mean I think metal coated would work fine too but I would guess fishing line is cheaper? Fishing line is nice that way, cheap but surprisingly sturdy

well I guess not that surprisingly, it does need to hold on to a thrashing fish

plus its usually clear

[velvet compass]

yes. Also the fishing line eliminates the problem of the coated wire has with a lack of plasticity. The fishing line doesn't maintain its shape, it bends more easily

[fair oyster]

I am still seeing the Unsupported state class error in statistics. It is not just on restart. Sometimes I have none and check later in the day and the error comes back. I see these on three different devices and the sensors that we created by the app. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and no difference.

[flint osprey]

theres nothing really the app can do to solve this issue, you'll have to wait for a HA core team member to look into the issue to solve it

[fair oyster]

I was asking again as it seems different. It is now getting errors without rebooting.

[fair oyster]

@flint osprey it looks like beta 1 fixes the issue for me. Had 12 state class errors prior to the installed, rebooted and I have none. I'll wait until tomorrow and if it stays the same I'll cause my open GitHub issue.

[flint osprey]

awesome thanks for letting us know its fixed 🙂

[fair oyster]

@flint osprey Nevermind, they all came back about 20 minutes after a reboot.

20 bad states now.

[flint osprey]

just a heads up to those on the android beta (and if you update before the play store) the latest beta has some breaking changes around notification commands, a lot of the parameters have been changed. Make sure to check the docs for the updated format listed under the beta label https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/notification-commands

TTS notifications are also part of the breaking changes here

[fair oyster]

Not sure if it is beta related but now at 27 bad states. None have cleared in almost 12 hours.

[fair oyster]

Beta 2 put it back like it was. Still broke but clearing in several hours

[long lagoon]

If it still takes several hours, it is definitely an issue with core. When using core >= 2022.6 the app will detect and reregister sensors due to a new version on the next sync, so roughly after 15 minutes.

[fair oyster]

On beta one it did not reregister.

[proud obsidian]

struggling here with actionable notifications for past couple days. Watched ahandful of videos, read the documentation...when i click the close door button its just dismissing the notification. Ive also tried using EntityId:Camera.my_nest_camera for a button for it to bring it up when the button is clicked, but i just get a ""unable to connect to home assistant" message like i cant reach my instance, which is untrue.

https://www.codepile.net/pile/N4eOaWya

[flint osprey]

Check the companion app logs and see if there is an error there

[manic thistle]

Hmm, missed that breaking change, but good to know

although this doesn't do anything for me:

            service: notify.mobile_app_pixel_5
            data:
              message: "command_bluetooth"
              data:
                command: "turn_off"

no errors/warnings in the log

[flint osprey]

Are you sure you are on the latest beta? It became live in the play store yesterday

[sonic bay]

What is the "Music Active" sensor supposed to show? My Xiaomi just reports unknown. I was hoping to check if the phone is playing some media and have that as a condition for some automations

oh there's a media session one too which seems to report something. I'll have a look at that then

[flint osprey]

that sensor is only for music specifically

[flint osprey]

to get the most out of htis sensor its best to enable the notification sensors and also add your media app to the allow list so the sensor can pick up all of its updates

[manic thistle]

Yes, because the old commands are received as text messages now

[gritty socket]

I managed to uninstall the Comapnion app for ware OS on my Galaxy watch 4 by accident.
And when I go to settings for Ware OS it try to connect, but nothing happens.
How do I reinstall the app?

[bleak osprey]

Soooo annoying, having to update all TTS commands 😂

[raven slate]

I just recieved my new phone

When i install the companion app and login to it, the phone does not show up in the 'mobile app' integration

[manic thistle]

did some further checking, and I see this in the log:

07-05 16:06:22.788 25727  3299 D MessagingService: Processing device command
07-05 16:06:22.789 25727  3299 D MessagingService: We have proper bluetooth permissions proceeding with command

So it seems the notification is received an processed correct. However it doesn't do anything.
Could it be an Android 13 thing? I'm using the Android 13 beta

also tested DND, that one works with the new command: key

[flint osprey]

it very well could be, I don't see any changes in the dev docs. I had tested the command on my pixel 6 pro and it did work so probably a bug in the android 13 beta

[flint osprey]

make sure that you have default_config or mobile_app in your configuration

[flint osprey]

google play store on the watch

[raven slate]

i have the default_config

My old phone and girlfriends phone was instantly added a year ago

[manic thistle]

Any advice on how to log this as an issue on the Android beta. Can I refer to a specific API call?

[flint osprey]

oh boy https://developer.android.com/reference/android/bluetooth/BluetoothAdapter#enable()

may be the end of that command 😦

[long lagoon]

If apps are targeting an older SDK (Build.VERSION_CODES.S or below), they can continue to use this API.
So it should still work for now

But once we upgrade it cannot be supported on 13 (+)

[flint osprey]

should be able to report issues https://developer.android.com/about/versions/13/feedback and check if its a known issue

doesnt surprise me that they are getting rid of that, they already did it for WiFi a few years back

[long lagoon]

https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/232107689

[manic thistle]

Well, looking at the link you provided, and especially this part. I don't think it's a bug

[flint osprey]

that last sentence actually applies to us so according to the docs it shoudl still work 🙂

[manic thistle]

Oh okay

[flint osprey]

we are currently targeting API 31 which is android S

[manic thistle]

Ah

[flint osprey]

but come october we will most likely be targetting API 33

that devcie control feature without auth will be nice for most folks i imagine lol

[long lagoon]

It should still be available without targeting API 33

But to get a better notification permission experience API 33 should be targeted soon (working on it)

[flint osprey]

yea that seemed to be the biggest issue, is that going to be required for all users to accept the new permission or only new installs?

[long lagoon]

On upgrade the app keeps the permission

But on new installs, without any changes Android will prompt the user as soon as the app tries to create a notification

So basically immediately when you start the app 🙂

It should be handled more gracefully during onboarding / show a dialog similar to location disabled for logged in users

[flint osprey]

To minimize disruptions associated with the new notification permission, the system automatically pre-grants the new notification permission to all eligible apps when the user upgrades their device to Android 13

not a fan of that eligible apps phrase 😛

[flint osprey]

yay more onboarding changes lol

[long lagoon]

HA is currently eligible (haven't noticed any apps that didn't get the permission)

[flint osprey]

yea I just clicked on the link, as long as the user didnt disable all channels or notificaitons in general it should still work 🙂

[long lagoon]

Tested this on my Pixel 4a with Android 13, also receives the command, prompts for permission the first time but when granted it still doesn't work (no error in logcat either, so I'm afraid the issue I've posted a few minutes ago applies here)

[proper goblet]

Is it possible to activate BLE transmitter only when in a certain zone? Similar to the high accuracy location settings?

[flint osprey]

not directly from the app, but there is a notification command you can use https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/notification-commands#ble-beacon-transmitter

[quaint eagle]

Still having issues with location tracking. Status does not update and shows "away" for both me and my wife even though, all location permissions have been updated (android). Any ideas?

[flint osprey]

after you check all the points here https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/troubleshooting/faqs/#device-tracker-is-not-updating-in-android-app continue reading and look at the logs

[proper goblet]

Of course there is, you are the best

[sweet trench]

anybody know where the "select adb debugging" toggle is on the 3rd gen amazon firestick?

[sweet trench]

never mind... ya just gotta click the "About" in My Fire TV 7 times quickly and it will show up again.

[quaint eagle]

Testing that out now, thank you

[heavy beacon]

Is there a way to have the app ONLY share GPS location when the phone is within a zone? I think the answer is no but I wanted to check.

[deep parrot]

When refreshing a template tile on WearOS I have vibration feedback but there's no way of knowing if the template is actually updated or not if the data is the same as before. Possible to add some sort of feedback if data retrieval succeeds? I'm not sure what kinda feedback would be best here though.

A green dot flash if success and a red dot flash if not ? Or triple vibration pattern if not success? 😛

[flint osprey]

not currently

[flint osprey]

probably best to file a feature request for that so it doenst get lost here 🙂

[long lagoon]

Or similar to the template widget on a phone: assume it worked, show an error icon otherwise?

The template tile can show errors in some situations, although I don't know exactly when it'll show a cached value or error

[deep parrot]

Maybe. But then how long should it try before failing? If I get a vibration feedback and wait a second, I expect the new data to be there and stop looking at the tile. If it tries for many seconds before showing error icon it's no good.

[long lagoon]

The current network timeout is 10 seconds

But that doesn't change if the feedback is success or failure

[unkempt stone]

Need urgent help! Can't access my HA instance from mobile app!

[hybrid gazelle]

The app will, correctly, reject invalid certificates

[unkempt stone]

I don't have duckdns

[hybrid gazelle]

You should remove SSL from HA

[unkempt stone]

SSL I enabled

If I remove SSL, I can't access add-ons for some reason!

I get 401 error

[hybrid gazelle]

Well, fix that rather than breaking everything else

[unkempt stone]

Where can I find help to fix this 401 unauthorized error?

[subtle linden]

The vibration feedback happens right as the app starts retrieving the template data in the background, since that is closest to the tap of the user. And the tile will show an error if the connection failed or if there was an error in the template itself. So as @long lagoon mentions that could take up to 10 seconds after the vibration

A feature request for showing a toast error and/or a specific vibration pattern could be a nice addition 🙂

Personally I just show the time in my template, that way I know when it was last updated

[hybrid gazelle]

#add-ons-archived ?

[arctic cloud]

Is there a way to send local push notifications to a specific device/user using the home assistant android app? I see there is an option target: but the docs don't say what to put here

[manic thistle]

The app provides a notify service specific for that device

But maybe I misunderstood your question

[obsidian sapphire]

Have a look at Blueprints, This is a good one - https://community.home-assistant.io/t/actionable-notifications-for-android/256773

[arctic cloud]

Thanks for the link I will try this

[deep parrot]

"Optional depending on the platform.". I don't specify anything there. Message is the only thing required for my Android devices.

I do tick the Data box and specify this to get notifications immediately though: ```
ttl: 0
priority: high

Getting actionable notifications is a bit more work though if you don't use the blueprint

[arctic cloud]

It's more like I would like to send different notifications to the phone of my girlfriend. She doesn't want all the things I want to know. So it would be great to be able to send only the high priority messages to us both and all others only to me

[deep parrot]

Just use one action for each phone in the automation

[dusk pike]

To solve this issue, I added a clock (with hh:mm:ss format) to the end of the template 😄
🕒 {{ "%02d" | format(now().hour) }}:{{ "%02d" | format(now().minute) }}:{{ "%02d" | format(now().second) }}
You can borrow it as a quick fix 🙂

[manic thistle]

Why not: 🕒 {{ now().strftime('%H:%M:%S') }}
or: 🕒 {{ now().replace(microsecond=0).time() }}

[deep parrot]

Already have a clock in it. 😛 Thanks though.

[red sedge]

Is there a group for Android companion app for smartwatches?

[flint osprey]

a group?

[red sedge]

I meant another tag/channel in this app.

I have a Galaxy Watch4 smartwatch. What information do I provide in the Template tile section?

[flint osprey]

whatever you want, that template will be rendered on the HA template tile thats available on the watch

https://support.google.com/wearos/answer/9314375?hl=en

[red sedge]

This works only with this type content? I assume I cannot use existing HA templates.

[flint osprey]

you can use any template, just have to copy the actual template. It will be rendered just like the results will be shown in the Template section in HA and yes all this does is show a template, if you are looking for control then you want to setup the shortcut tile from the app directly

right now we have 2 different tiles for Wear OS https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/wear-os/#tiles

[red sedge]

Thank you @flint osprey Is the limit only one template (tile) for the companion app?

[flint osprey]

yea right now only 1 tile, there is a request to add more of the shortcut tile but template tile will need the same work done https://github.com/home-assistant/android/issues/2475....The thing is that we have to define the exact number of templates in our apps manifest so we have to be precise when we add more.

[red sedge]

Can I use a template switch for tile?

[flint osprey]

you want to control the switch correct?

[twilit harbor]

@red sedge posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/eximiwazov

[red sedge]

No, I have this template switch.

[flint osprey]

so you dont wnat to turn it on and off, you just want to display the state?

[red sedge]

Turn it on and off

[flint osprey]

ok for that you want to use the shortcut tile

[red sedge]

Is there an option to control shortcut tiles via 'Wear Device Settings'? It's kind of difficult to browse through the attributes on a tiny watch screen. 😀

[flint osprey]

not at the moment

[red sedge]

Thank you for your quick response.

[long lagoon]

You can tap on the headers (eg 'Lights') to collapse them

Less scrolling

[red sedge]

I didn't even notice that line next to the headers. I need an eye exam 😜

[long lagoon]

It is easy to mistake it for 'a line' instead of 'a plus/minus symbol'

[flint osprey]

it wasnt easy to pick a character to represent the expanding/collapsing behavior lol

[long lagoon]

▸ / ▾ comes to mind

But also easy to miss on a watch screen

[flint osprey]

hmm those are good ones too

[dry stratus]

does the companion app have a swipe board navigation built in these days? I did install HACS mod for it, but I have uninstalled it and it's still present and messing the usage ...

nvm, clearing the android app cache removed the last bit of it

[subtle linden]

One small tip here for all involved. You can just add a template sensor with the template in either the state or a custom attribute. Then you only have to add a simple template that gets the state/attribute in the app and never worry about copy paste again 😊

[flint osprey]

thats a very good point lol, I need to do that with my template widgets too lol

[abstract nexus]

Hello i have a problem i can't access my home assistant when i am at my WLAN with mobile data i can connect to it, i am usung duckdns btw does someone know how i could fix it?

[flint osprey]

https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/troubleshooting/networking some of these tips may be of help

[rain mesa]

Is it possible to get actionable notifications on tizen smart watch?

[flint osprey]

tizen is not android so tough to say how it works

[crystal shuttle]

I'm trying to add a widget. This has always worked and I haven't updated recently either. However, after adding the widget and executing it (this is a toggle widget), it outputs the green checkmark but nothing happens. When I look at reconfiguring the widget, I see that it says A custom component is preventing service data from loading.

[twilit harbor]

@crystal shuttle posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/iyahohumaz

[crystal shuttle]

if I click the entity, I can toggle the lights on/off just fine both via the mobile app and on the web

but via widgets, it won't work at all and I am specifying the exact service name light.pool_column_lights

[flint osprey]

the error says that service does not exist, and thats from HA core. If you have a custom component installed try to disable it and see if it works. The toggle widget screen will show an error if any service call in your HA has invalid data

[crystal shuttle]

I don't have any custom components installed...that was the first thing I checked. However, I decided to backup and upgrade by pulling the latest docker iteration of ha and it all seems fine now 🤷‍♂️

thanks a bunch though for the suggestion!!!

[rain mesa]

Yeah, was just wondering if anyone managed it

[somber forge]

hi friends so my home helper throws this error and everything is set up properly

[flint osprey]

this isn't the correct channel to get support for that addon, try in #add-ons-archived or #zigbee-archived

[hybrid gazelle]

I'd start in #zigbee-archived - and I'd start with the logs for Z2M (use a code share site) since 502 means that Z2M isn't running

[abstract nexus]

i am realy confused why my app isn t working now, i can t access HA via app but wit the browser on my phone it is fine...

[flint osprey]

what error do you see in the companion app logs?

[somber forge]

who is the admin in these groups, how can I access a group about homeassistant

[flint osprey]

not really sure what you are asking but this is a group about home assistant...this channel is to discuss the android app

[vestal steeple]

Anyone had issue when notifications when connected to wifi

If I have an automation send a notification upon trigger. When I am connected to wifi I never get notification but when I disconnect I get all of the notifications at once

[flint osprey]

any errors in teh logs from HA core or companion app? I have not heard of this issue but I imagine there should be an error somewhere

[distant cedar]

How do I disable the app from phoning home to my HaOS instance every 15 minutes even though every sensor is disabled?

[flint osprey]

sensors will always have their status synced with HA core, even if disabled

that job also checks in with HA core to see if any sensors were enabled in the UI so they can be enabled in the app.

[deep parrot]

Why does device_tracker.galaxywatch4 appear as an entity in HA (unknown state) when all sensors on the watch are disabled?

[flint osprey]

all mobile app integrations provide a device tracker, thats part of HA core

[flat magnet]

Is it possible to use a client side certificate with the app?

[flint osprey]

you want to be on the latest beta for that feature

[flat magnet]

Oh well that's surprisingly nice to hear.

Ah woo it worked!

[rapid elm]

Sup guys is it possible to call a service with notify?
action: call-service doesn't work is there another way or do I need to make this a script? That's my action code: https://hastebin.com/mifuhalomu

[flint osprey]

you can use actionable notifications to do that https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/actionable-notifications

[ripe hornet]

Is there a way to suppress or hide the "Sensors Updating" notification? I have notifications from HA buzz through to my smart watch and every 15mins to an hour my wrist buzzes with one of those notifications.

[flint osprey]

modify the sensor worker notification channel settings

[proud obsidian]

Does anyone know much about the HA android app + Android tablets? I got a Samsung Tab A8 to use as a panel use case and when the screen goes to sleep\times out and you turn it back on, the app goes into the 2-3 seconds of "Connection lost, Reconnecting" phase until it refreshes like it lost connection. Not very convenient. I ever tried having the tablet just turn on a screensaver instead of turning off the screen fully to see if that keeps the apps connection alive or whatever and it didnt make a difference. I could just leave the screen on 24\7 but then youre talking screen burn in....any ideas here?

[flint osprey]

you make sure the app has proper access to run in the background?

[proud obsidian]

Yea, setup direct HA instance communication etc, let me go double check all other permissions around everything on hte app itsself

[flint osprey]

Configuration > Companion App > Check the backgroudn access tile has a checkmark

there is also a HA user profile setting that is turned on by default to disconnect the connection if its been hidden, you can try turning that off if you want

[proud obsidian]

Let me check that second thing, it is running as a specific "kiosk" user. I have faith (runs back down)

Ok i found that slider toggle for the user about closing hte connection when app is in background. Ill have to wait and see if that did anything. Im hoping it did. Because im not sure if this situation with the screensaver running means the HA app is in the background or not

Guess time will tell, thanks @flint osprey.

Does enabling that toggle to off on your mobile phone scenario affect battery life?

IS that the trade off for that toggle?

[flint osprey]

and data impact

[proud obsidian]

Got it

[flint osprey]

the background tile in Companion App is one i woudl change first if it wasnt enabled

[proud obsidian]

Yea thats present "green check mark"

[worldly zenith]

Can I set notification which will pop up in homeassistant app at startup?

[flint osprey]

you can detect when the app is open by using the App Importance sensor, its state will be foreground anytime the app is in the foreground

[proud obsidian]

Interesting! Clever way to troubleshoot that

[worldly zenith]

@flint osprey what's the name of that sensor, I cannot find it in states.

[flint osprey]

you need to enable the sensor from the app or the intergration page

App Importance

faster to do it from the app as enabling a sensor in HA 2022.6 can have a 15 minute delay as it waits for the app to check in

[rapid elm]

how? you got an example? call-service doesn't work

[flint osprey]

there is no call-service method in the docs for android, follow the example in the docs. You need to create an action and then respond to it. the docs are pretty clear here

[rapid elm]

you mean action script?

[flint osprey]

did you read the page and follow the provided examples?

[rapid elm]

well there are few examples

[flint osprey]

just use whatever action you want after the event, the example has you create a notification and then wait for the event before executing the action

https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/actionable-notifications/#building-notification-action-scripts just below wait_for_trigger

[proud obsidian]

I been struggling with Actionable notifications forever. Ive followed various examples and stuff from youtube, the documentation page etc, and it seems i cant get the button to successfully do said defined action. Ive tried from directly toggling the state of an entity like locking a door to pulling up a specific camera feed. Here is the code for the automation\notification. https://www.codepile.net/pile/4d5el7dY

And here is the HA Companion app log file. https://www.codepile.net/pile/75O2ERk0 I just noticed action_3_url=null. Is that where something is going wrong? When i click on the "View camera" button, id expect it to open my camera entity\feed. But all it does is give me the "Home assistant cannot connect to your server, try interal url/settings/refresh" dialog with 404: not found on the HA app screen. As if my HA instance is totaly down, but its clearly not.

[tawdry crystal]

Is there somewhere to get just the app APK and not have to use the app store?

[flint osprey]

github

latest prod release https://github.com/home-assistant/android/releases/tag/2022.6.0 or latest beta https://github.com/home-assistant/android/releases

[flint osprey]

the third action entityId lowercase e 🙂

I am not sure about the other 2 actions as i only see the actionable notification and not the corresponding event automations

@proud obsidian uri needs a lowercase u as well

[proud obsidian]

Oh god if thats what it is...

I keep forgetting most of this is case sensative

[rapid elm]

alright thanks, I'm bit confused how the action_service in variables: should look like

[flint osprey]

the action sequence is not any different than a normal automation

[silk flint]

Is there some way to make notifications not go to the HA app when clicked on, maybe just clear?

[flint osprey]

right now, not possible as we always provide a content intent. We could consider a feature request to not open anything.

this behavior is controlled with the clickAction variable

[rapid elm]

okay so in variables: action_service: service or how do i call it there, i'm confused

what does this part action_open: "{{ 'OPEN_' ~ context.id }}" in the example?

[main talon]

it constructs a unique identifier that you use later to identify which option was chosen

[silk flint]

@flint osprey Is there an event I can listen for?

[flint osprey]

not for when the notification is clicked but there is one when its dismissed

https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/notification-cleared

[silk flint]

It seems to auto-dismiss when I click on it, but not send the event as far as I could see. I'm already listening to that one

[rapid elm]

so it's necessary, how do i call a uri from the "perform the action" action? or can i call it from the "ask to close or open the blinds"?

[flint osprey]

there is an exisitng feature request for when it is clicked on https://github.com/home-assistant/android/issues/2524

[rapid elm]

this whole example is confusing me for what i want to do

[flint osprey]

yea the delete intent we use only notifies the app when a user manually swipes it away or clicks on Clear All

[flint osprey]

The best way to look at it is there are 2 parts to the notification. First part creates the notification with the buttons and events. The second part listens for the events and performs the action based on the event. How you do the second part is up to you

[silk flint]

Yeh that's how I've coded it. But there's no event to listen for when it's clicked on. I can set it persistent, but then the action button doesn't clear it.

Anyhow... will survive. Just not very wife friendly as it is.

[rapid elm]

i get that but how do i call the URI action from notify in the "perform the action" sequence?

[flint osprey]

you can clear it with an action button, just use clear_notification https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/notifications-basic#clearing when responding to the event

[flint osprey]

what do you mean URI action? because in terms of the app that only opens an app, opens HA or opens something but it does not send back an event when URI is used as an action

[rapid elm]

well if my automation runs i want 2 button in the notification "open release notes" and "update hass"
open release notes opens a URI with the notify action: URI and hitting update hass i want to call a shell_comman from service

with the example provided i can only run normal actions from choose

[flint osprey]

so in your case you only have 1 event to listen for, update hass

[rapid elm]

yes

[flint osprey]

so whatever you use for the action key is what you want to use in your automation

so you only need 1 trigger from the example

you dont have to use action: "{{ action_open }}" you can make it anything you want like action: open

feel free to share what you have come up with

[rapid elm]

u mean with action: open action: URI ? and the other one is action: {{ action:open }}'?

I've this now: https://paste.ofcode.org/3495hk8KD3nSb49qQNtseJD

[flint osprey]

you are missing a title for the first action

for update hass

[rapid elm]

you're correct

[flint osprey]

the rest looks fine

[rapid elm]

nice it's working, thank you

that's a big celebration for sure xD i read the doc way too often, just coudn't figure it out

[flint osprey]

the examples in the companion app docs moreso reflect the automation docs, next time you get stuck give those a read too as it all applies

[rapid elm]

i probably missed something in the other docs, the example confused me tho. especially this sentence: The above sends a notification, waits for a response, and then performs whichever action is being requested. I mean it clearly doesn't it waits for an event to happen, URI is no event which is weird, I thought every tab on a notification popup is an action/event

[flint osprey]

the example is not using URI though 🙂

[rapid elm]

that's correct maybe adding this to the example could help in the future

[fading topaz]

Has anyone successfully managed to get the name of who is calling integrated into home assistant? I managed to get the call being registered using last notification but I can't get it to tell me who the call is from, just this info

[snow pollen]

I am trying to set up the mobile app for home assistant, but whenever the app asks me the adresse of the server, it says it is impossible to conect to HASS. how can I fix this ?

I tried looking the answer online but couldn't find anything...

[flint osprey]

who the call is from is really going to depend on what the app provides in the notification data

[flint osprey]

what URL are you using?

[remote vine]

I have a bunch of sensors stuck in "unknown" state. Is there a way to force app to send states for ALL enabled sensors regardless if they changed or not? command_update_sensors didn't help.

[flint osprey]

what sensors appear to be stuck?

[remote vine]

phone_state, sim_1, sim_2, current_version, ringer_mode, phone_state, blutetooth_connection, internal_storage, current_time_zone...
It looks like it's basically any that phone didn't have opportunity to send changed value

I haven't reenabled them all yet... but it did happen agter clearing app data on phone app

[flint osprey]

oh when you do that you need to clear out hte integration, proper steps to follow: https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/troubleshooting/faqs/#starting-fresh-with-the-android-app

you basically left them in a bad state and they need to be cleaned up

[fading topaz]

Yeah thats why i was wondering if the call app isn't what registers the name, possibly enough app like the contacts or something

[flint osprey]

The stock Google phone app provides the data on my pixel

[fading topaz]

whats the code name for that? is it com. something?

[flint osprey]

com.google.android.dialer

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.dialer

[fading topaz]

I'll give that a go, see if i can get it to replace samsungs one

[fading topaz]

Swapping to googles caller app works! cheers mate

[past blade]

Hi everyone, I used to use OwnTrack for precise geolocation and I now see that the HA app can take care of all of it. My questions are:

1. Does Google track anything when it's used by the app?

2. What are the recommended settings for relatively precise zone detection?

Thanks

[remote vine]

Sorry for late reply. Thank You - it worked great and solve the problem.

Thou I suspect that having a possibility to force all states refresh would be nice and probably work as well.

[flint osprey]

Not when you remove the association like you did

Those steps exist for a reason 😉

[flint osprey]

All location data comes from Google. The default location settings should be fine. Just make sure your zones are configured as you like.

[sleek thunder]

Is it possible to issue a command to an AndroidTV device (like nvidia shield) to turn off the TV it's connected to? I know I can issue a command to turn off the shield itself, but I want to turn off the TV

The shield and TV are connected via hdmi-cec

[flint osprey]

not via the app but maybe the android_tv integration?

you could use the app to trigger things in tasker though using the intent

[heady flint]

Is there an issue at the moment with Android notifications? They stopped working in previously working automations and in the service dev tool.

I don't know exactly when it stopped working but I assume with the July update

[flint osprey]

No issues, try looking at the logs

[heady flint]

Logs show nothing suspicious

It would appear in core logs?

[worldly zenith]

Hello, I installed the HA App on my android phone - I'd like to use it for geofencing. Does it create a device_tracker object? I'm not sure how to track my location with it.

[heady flint]

Nevermind. It seems that I blocked notifications from home assistant somehow.. classic layer 8

[flint osprey]

When you logged in there was a location tracking toggle did you enable that?

[worldly zenith]

Hello
Is it possible to ring the phone as a notification ?
I want to use it when alarm is triggered
Thank you

[flint osprey]

https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/critical-notifications#android-alarm-stream yup but unfortunately this doesn't work on all devices, some samsung devices dont play anything as Samsung as changed the behavior

[worldly zenith]

@flint osprey
Hi and on OnePlus 5

?

Thank you

[flint osprey]

no idea, you'll have to try and see

[worldly zenith]

yes i did, but just found this guide, will take a closer look now, thanks ! https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/core/location/

Thank you

[worldly zenith]

Still having trouble with the companion app - it won't make a device_tracker object and it wont save the Device Name when I enter it. Otherwise the App seems to be working, it shows successful connection via cloud.

ok i think i just needed to restart.

and add mobile_app: to my conf

[bleak osprey]

Did you manage to amend an already set alarm by searching for its name, or do you just create a new one every time?

[kind rose]

Hi there. I could use notify and it works fine. I get actionable notifications which is cool.

But what I wanna do is to have those notifications show on Android auto. Is that possible?

Essentially, I want to use zones for HA to know when I'm near home, and ask me to whether open the gate.

Bonus points if google can ask me via voice command.

It seems android auto has not whitelisted HA, so it's not showing the notification.

Any way to work around it?

[flint osprey]

However the notifications are displayed in Android auto is part of Android auto. The app doesn't do anything special there

There is an existing feature request for Android auto support on GitHub

[flint osprey]

The only app that i know of that lets you modify the alarm based on the label is Sleep as Android. The companion app docs should have an example or a direct link to Sleep as Android docs

[flint osprey]

Only to create an alarm though, not modify an existing one https://developer.android.com/guide/components/intents-common#Clock

[bleak osprey]

There is this: ALARM_SEARCH_MODE_LABEL
I just couldn't get the syntax right to work properly

[flint osprey]

Says it only returns a list of alarms that match the label but don't think it will let you modify any of them

[flint osprey]

So that's to dismiss an alarm using that intent but it wont let you modify it right?

[bleak osprey]

I was playing around with this today. The ...*alarm.MESSAGE: text - sets the label name which I found was weird as the document has a different command for interacting with labels.

[flint osprey]

Ya that's the thing with intents we are dependent on the development documentation of other apps.

[flint osprey]

so one nice thing about android is that we can look at the source code, so in this case we can look at the AlarmClock.java file to see if any of the comments or usage can help https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base.git/+/master/core/java/android/provider/AlarmClock.java not sure if this will help but wanted to point out another avenue in your search 🙂

so what exactly are you trying to do? Create an alarm and change its time as needed?

[bleak osprey]

I work a 4 on 4 of shift and every week I have to change the alarm, so in my example I want to change the days. Well... At the moment i couldn't even set the days the way the documentation described.

[flint osprey]

so EXTRA_DAYS is an extra that requires ArrayList<Integer> format, did you refer to the companion docs on what the expected format is there? https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/notification-commands#broadcast-intent after the 4th example here you'll see a bullet list showing some brief examples

[trim frost]

Question: actionable notification to Samsung phone, if the screen is locked and i click the notification, phone ask for pin/fingerprint once given companion app is opened. i expected the notification to be opened with the "actions" i defined as buttons. Works like a charm if screen is unlocked when notify is sent. I wanted to ask here if this is normal or if this could be related to "security policy" by my company?

[flint osprey]

according to the docs this is default behavior, you can create a feature request on github to support this as we need to add a new parameter for https://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Notification.Action.Builder#setAuthenticationRequired(boolean)

[bleak osprey]

I have seen that but I'm guessing the syntax would be for Monday "android.intent.extra.alarm.DAYS:2"
Or am I missing something? I'm guessing the "ArrayList" is just referring to the numbers for the days/months

[flint osprey]

the correct syntax is in the bullet list, and formatted in a inline code block so the correct way would be android.intent.extra.alarm.DAYS:2:ArrayList<Integer> so you have the extra name : value : the format the app needs to send (3 parts)

[bleak osprey]

So in this format it didn't work. Should any value go to the "Integer" bit? Or this should work as is?

I'm guessing as my phone default alarm is not the standard Google clock, so that might be the issue

[flint osprey]

check companion app logs see if any errors show up

feel free to share the entire YAML might be easier to see what went wrong

[flint osprey]

as long as you are targetting the correct package in the automation it shoudl be reaching it

[bleak osprey]

I've tried replacing it with Calendar.MONDAY too but didn't work

[flint osprey]

yea that wont work, the description for the extra explains the format it is expecting and the values for each field

[bleak osprey]

I'm just using the developer tools Services. The package is correct as I can set the time for the alarm but when something doesn't work the alarm just opens up but doesn't set

[bleak osprey]

intent_package_name: com.asus.deskclock
intent_extras: android.intent.extra.alarm.DAYS:2:ArrayList<Integer>
intent_action: android.intent.action.SET_ALARM

[flint osprey]

have you tried another alarm app to rule out an issue in that stock app?

[bleak osprey]

No, but I was thinking about that 😅 I'll do that now

[flint osprey]

how an app implements what data its from the intent is up to each app

i assume you also tried with sending hours and minutes too?

[bleak osprey]

Hours and minutes works fine. And I've downloaded a 3rd party one that's chucking loads of adds at me but the commands work with that so I'm going to go and cry in the corner. But thank you for your help 😁

I might download the original apk and have a look at the source code to see if I can find anything. Asus always has to be different from the standard

Google clock wouldn't be too bad but I couldn't find the package name 😒

[flint osprey]

the package name is in the play store URL, i usualy find that easiest way to find it

[bleak osprey]

Thanks for the tip... So I have uninstalled that awful app and reverted the script back to the original and now it's working fine so I'm confused

To be clear the only difference is that I specified the Hour and Minute too so maybe it needed that too

[bleak osprey]

Yes, that's all it needed. If it's missing the time it won't complete the settings.

[flint osprey]

makes sense but would be nice if the app design would show an error but then again you don't normally create an alarm like this 😂

[bleak osprey]

Yes, and error log would have been useful. Now I just have to figure out how to automate this in the simplest way. And also to get the search by Label command to work. But now I think the only reason it didn't work because of the incomplete intents.

[flint osprey]

yea its possible, but in this case you wouldn't see an error in our companion app logs, you'd need to refer to Logcat on the device itself to inspect logs from other apps

i think your right on the other command, worht testing now that you know it may have gotten incomplete data

[tidal steeple]

What's up android peeps?

Anybody understand deep links to switch apps via link in HA?

Like, I figured out how to make a link in HA to just switch to the Sonos App, i.e. Sonos:\

But I just guessed that was the deep link...I don't know how to discover for other apps...

[flint osprey]

all you need is the package name which you can get from the play store URL easily https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/integrations/android-webview#links then format it as such

[cursive edge]

I've been looking at the same challenge today, I want a picture card to link directly to a camera stream in app.
so far I've found that I can set:

tap_action:
  action: url
  url_path: app://com.oceanwing.battery.cam```
to launch directly in the the eufy security app. I haven't yet worked out how to get the intent to go directly to an action within an app, however I have a pretty good lead here, using adb to log the intent: https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/23687/finding-out-the-intents-an-app-uses-internally

[flint osprey]

you can try looking at a manifest inspector to see if they have a specific intent for that

looking at logcat is helpful too especially if you can reproduce it using another app or even a notification from their app that takes you to it

[cursive edge]

This is my goal for later tonight. Got a few other things to do before hand. I found a few promising apps (shortcut explorer and Activity Launcher) but eufy in particular seems to have thousands of non descript actions. Logcat will most likely be the way

[flint osprey]

the reason why i mentioned the manifest is because apps are required to define them there like our app and our location update intent https://github.com/home-assistant/android/blob/master/app/src/main/AndroidManifest.xml#L226 https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/core/location#sending-an-intent

[cursive edge]

I was just having a look at the manifest file from a downloaded apk. I'm a bit hampered by availability of tools until later though.
this site provides a list of activities that aligns with what I see in the AndroidManifest.xml file: https://aapks.com/apk/eufysecurity/version/51449336/

[flint osprey]

you can also try to email and ask lol that woudl be the best answer if they respond

i know tinycam pro supports it

[cursive edge]

That was my first move about an hour ago - email already sent. There's no real reason that they wouldn't provide instruction for it. It's just a shortcut.

[flint osprey]

may seem like a shortcut but its all about what hte code supports and if they want users to use that feature

[cursive edge]

I just need to get through the customer service hurdles to an android dev.

[flint osprey]

some apps actually have docs for things like this

if you get tired of banging your head you can always hook up the cams to tiny cam and use that since it has a working system 🙂

the dev had posted online a list of variables supported to do things like this

but the app also supports tasker so you can just setup an intent so tasker can do its thing

[cursive edge]

I could look in to that, I don't know anything about tiny cam (yet) though. The two eufy cameras I have are built in to a floodlight and a doorbell and don't support RTSP. I wasn't happy with the reliability of the streaming solution within HA and figured I may as well just link to the app. I don't need to stream often and it will always be on an android device.

[flint osprey]

its a great app especially if you have multiple cameras from different manufacturers. I use it as a baby monitor on the TV too, automated with tasker lol...looks like they added support for Eufy a couple years ago just need to select the manufacturer and provide login details

ive been using it for years, great dev thats super responsive too

[cursive edge]

That's awesome, I will take a look and see how it integrates with these devices.

[cursive edge]

OK I used adb logcat to try and collect useful things when I chased a notification to a live stream.
This looks like something:
ActivityTaskManager: START u0 {act=android.intent.action.MAIN cat=[android.intent.category.LAUNCHER] flg=0x10000000 pkg=com.oceanwing.battery.cam cmp=com.oceanwing.battery.cam/.main.SplashActivity} from uid 10041

[indigo light]

Hello! I have a wierd problem after exposing my app. it works just fine in browsers on my laptop and on my android when connected to wifi. however when i use external url it opens a chrome tab with domain/lovelace?external_auth=1

and it doesn t let me log in

if i delete that external_auth=1 from the link and let it like lovelace/0 it works i can do stuff on it but it acts like my phone isn t connected to the app

[indigo light]

i saw that i need to put an ssl certificate on my phone. i downloaded my cert from nginx proxy manager and put it on my phone but it still doesn t work

[wanton steppe]

data:
  message: command_activity
  data:
    channel: com.mm.android.amcrestsmarthome
    tag: android.intent.action.VIEW
  title: Open Amcrest```

I am trying to open my Amcrest App with an Automation

However this just aint working

[flint osprey]

Why not use the command to launch an app? https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/notifications/notification-commands#launch-app

[flint osprey]

You probably have something misconfigured this page may have some tips https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/troubleshooting/networking

[wanton steppe]

Let me give this a try, thanks for letting me know about this! Will it work with both Android and IOS tho?

[flint osprey]

only android, not sure about iOS has a method to support it

[wanton steppe]

Thanks! I will take note of that and keep my Wall Tablet android based, wanted to go with an iPad

data:
  message: command_launch_app
  data:
    channel: com.mm.android.amcrestsmarthome
    tag: android.intent.action.VIEW

This did not work out for me

With or without the tag, I just gotten a notification from Home Assistant and when I click it nothing happens

Ah im dumb, i needed to change channel! Thank you so much!

[flint osprey]

you also don't use tag there 😉

[foggy bear]

lol could not figure out why my wife was still getting messed up command notifications after I fixed my automationa

she wasn't in the app beta 😅

hmm I'm not sure where that gif came from lol I was more amused than anything

[flint osprey]

this channel is only for the official HA android app, for our app the APKs are built after every commit and that is done via a github action. All code is on github too.

[quiet sluice]

I've been having issues recently with the app disconnecting from the server and not getting updates or even responding to notification-based commands. I'm not sure if its the app or that I'm running it on Fire tablets.

[uncut jewel]

Hello, stoped reciving messages from the app, but no errors in the log! It was ok and now stoped, could it be the limit was reached? Does this generate a error?

[flint osprey]

have you seen any errors in teh logs?

[flint osprey]

make sure to check HA core or companion app logs.....there will be an error if you reach the daily limit of 500 messages

[uncut jewel]

The 500 messages for day or month?

No errors, but the messages do not arrive

[indigo light]

Any ideea why some phone sensors apper as unknown?

Such as next alarm and volume ringer

[uncut jewel]

Next alarm I know that only shows when you have a alarm set

[indigo light]

I have alarms set

In the companion app settings it even shows me correctly when that is

It s very wierd

Ok for alarm there was an allow list and i set it to android now it works. Volume level still doesn t work but i guess that s not such a big deal

Nvm now it works

[flint osprey]

per day

[flint osprey]

are you using the persistent connection? If not have you made sure to send in the critical notification format in case they are just delayed?

[quiet sluice]

Nothing on the server stands out.

[flint osprey]

what about companion app logs?

[quiet sluice]

Actually have no idea where those are.
Will have to look when I get back home again.

[flint osprey]

Configuration > Companion App > Show and Share Logs

youll wnat to reproduce the issue and check there

[quiet sluice]

It happens often, so it should be trivial.

[uncut jewel]

Yes its persistente

[flint osprey]

you should see some sort of logging in HA core or companion apps if there is a failure then

[cursive edge]

So eufy got back to me: "So sorry to say that we cannot provide such information."

Do you or anyone ekse know how to use logcat to rebuild an android app intent? My goal here is to use the 'tap action' on a picture card to open a camera stream in the eufy app directly.
I did pull some entries out of logcat but was only able to launch the app, not the stream.

https://companion.home-assistant.io/docs/integrations/android-webview/
https://developer.chrome.com/docs/multidevice/android/intents/

[flint osprey]

i dont use the eufy app so I wont be able to answer, I also dont see anything on stackoverflow either. You can try to use a manifest viewer to discover new intents but its all giong to be trial and error. Intents are an advanced feature that requires research so theres no easy answer to anything here. Logcat can be used to discover intents but you may not see all the data needed.

you can try asking in this thread if anyone has discovered antyhing, I try to keep the first post up to date with all hte examples i can find to keep things easier: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/android-intents-sending-receiving-list-starting-activities-too/276192 you'll see tinycam mentioned there with a link to reddit where the dev responded with a list of optoins to use too

[cursive edge]

AH OK I'll try posting over there. I did set up tiny cam and have a look, I was able to get my streams working but it was quite slow to connect and hard to switch between streams on the same account, then adding that I'd need the app on all phones in thehouse, where they already have eufy up and running. I think opening the eufy app is a better solution that tinycam directo to stream for our needs. I'll see if the intent can be reverse engineered somehow using that link.

[cursive edge]

is a manifest reader something that I do on my phone? Can I do it without root access?

  <application hasCode="false">
    <meta-data name="com.android.vending.derived.apk.id" value="3"/>
  </application>
</manifest>```

Doesn't seem to give much away there

[flint osprey]

thats not the complete manifest and yes you can do it from your phone, no root is needed

[cursive edge]

Appreciate your patience. When I used an app (Apk Analyzer) to export the manifest.xml that is all the content. The app does show a lot of activites, services and permissions but not within the .xml

[flint osprey]

make sure to look at AndroidManifest.xml

this app? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sk.styk.martin.apkanalyzer&hl=en_US&gl=US if you see one of the screenshots it shows a full manifest listing permissions and intent filters etc..

[cursive edge]

That's the one. Yes I'm getting the above code block from the same location. Other apps give a lot more content, this one just seems brief.

[cursive edge]

07-21 11:23:57.859  1832  4838 I ActivityTaskManager: START u0 {cmp=com.oceanwing.battery.cam/com.eufy.security.floodlight.domain.video.IcTabVideoActivity (has extras)} from uid 10278
07-21 11:23:58.548  1832  2274 I ActivityTaskManager: Displayed com.oceanwing.battery.cam/com.eufy.security.floodlight.domain.video.IcTabVideoActivity: +686ms

07-21 11:24:10.511  1832  4882 I ActivityTaskManager: START u0 {cmp=com.oceanwing.battery.cam/com.eufy.security.floodlight.domain.video.IcTabVideoActivity (has extras)} from uid 10278
07-21 11:24:10.721  1832  2274 I ActivityTaskManager: Displayed com.oceanwing.battery.cam/com.eufy.security.floodlight.domain.video.IcTabVideoActivity: +209ms```

I'm back to playing in logcat...

[flint osprey]

Those extras are really what the developers can tell you what to put in

If they don't print them then they don't print them

[cursive edge]

I'm probably on a wild goose chase then

[flint osprey]

can you use tasker to take you to the right spot?

you can always interact with tasker and have it do its thing

[cursive edge]

I haven't actually used tasker before

It looks like the same issue, the intents exposed by the app don't allow to go to the right spot. I'm going to call it quits on this!

[long lagoon]

These log statements are actually from the system, not the app

So "they" can't choose what to print

[drowsy lodge]

Made a widget on my Android system to disable the alarm. When I enter the code to send it drops a digit. Can I fix this ?

[flint osprey]

in this case i meant the app woudl print its own log statement of the extras that it received...its a choice the app makes like for example we choose to print the entire notification JSON once received

[flint osprey]

known issue https://github.com/home-assistant/android/issues/2264

[quiet sluice]

Yesterday's update seems to have somehow fixed the problem I was having. Weird.

[long lagoon]

Sure but most production apps don't expect users to read the logs, so no need to print it (for example by using a wrapper that turns it off on non-debug builds)