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woven trench
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austere patio
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When you say "doesn't work", what do you mean?

woven trench
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None of my zigbee devices are seen, including the conbee II stick.

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I get a message on my Devices screen of "Failed to set up"

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All entities under zha show as "unavailable".

austere patio
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The group entities or individual devices?

tepid mauve
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so, are you grouping in HA then?

woven trench
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each device. some are in groups, others are not. ALL show unavailable. ZHA won't load. Everything else is functioning.

sour shadow
austere patio
woven trench
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yep

tepid mauve
obsidian sandalBOT
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You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

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sour shadow
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Well, I don't make a massive use of smart bulbs, and honestly I don't see why I'd ever want to turn on or off every light in a floor at once

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I treat rooms as the biggest "unit" of control

tepid mauve
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Ok, thanks. I want to be able to turn off all lights for example, in the entire house. my children tent to leave them on 😉

sour shadow
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For me, that's something I'd do by turning off the "rooms"

tepid mauve
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Ok, annd you group these rooms in z2m?

sour shadow
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No

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That's a thing in HA - in Z2M I'd have a group of (say) the lights in a single room

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Even then, I may have multiple groups, if that makes more sense to how things work

tepid mauve
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Ok, i'll guess i just try some things. i think, for me, it would be nice to be able to create groups of groups in z2m, would make more sense to me

sour shadow
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You could open a feature request, but it's quite possible that Zigbee groups can't contain groups shrug

tepid mauve
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yeah, i guess that is the problem

austere patio
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Only devices can be a part of a group. You can theoretically "make" a group of groups, but it would just be a "hidden" group created by the integration that would just contain devices from both groups

analog flicker
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Bad idea to run zigbee2mqtt alongside zha? I want to slowlllly migrate from zha to zigbee at my own pace

mellow geode
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You can't with the same stick

ashen coral
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You can NOT run the same network with the same stick on two controllers.

analog flicker
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I have a new stick

ashen coral
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Then it's fine to migrate one device over at a time or so.

ashen coral
analog flicker
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I have a huzusb running zwave/zigbee, and I want to plugin my sonoff zigbee 3.0 and move stuff over.

mellow geode
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Just curious, what's making you switch from ZHA to Z2M?

analog flicker
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I have seen a lot of people say they get better speed/ response + more features

mellow geode
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Actually, Z2M will probably override that though. Not sure if it has a way to import a network

analog flicker
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Everything I was told earlier was that I have to do each device one by one.

mellow geode
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Well, if you're moving from ZHA to Z2M, you'll probably need to do that

ashen coral
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I prefer Z2M because ZHA means there's a single point of failure.
If my hass goes south I can get half of my lights running in two minutes on a new install. If Z2M goes I still have half of them running.
If I had ZHA all would be gone at once.

analog flicker
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Kind of why I am doing it too. And why I want to split my zwave/ zigbee devices onto their own hardware.

ashen coral
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(and yes, that means if my LAN goes down everything is dead, but I have redundancy there)

austere patio
uneven ruin
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weekly?

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is that bad?

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though in my case its not about a single point of failure so much as multiple networks in multiple buildings. Being able to run a SBC in that building and route it to one instance of HA is super nice

near echo
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adding a point on Z2M - you can run Z2M on device where your zb stick is and not necessarily on where HA is running

wary harbor
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when will the aqara p1 motion sensors be supported? it was mentioned before but I don't remember, is it 2022.6.x ?

molten linden
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Latest quirks release is in the recent betas so 2022.6 for sure.

wary harbor
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umm, what's a quirk?

austere patio
# wary harbor umm, what's a quirk?

Normal sensors work out-of-the-box with ZHA. Aqara's P1 intentionally broke compatibility with the Zigbee standard and needs extra code to work. ZHA "quirks" are that extra code.

wary harbor
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oh, so same idea as patching

mellow geode
quartz flume
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No one has any ideia?

true girder
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Is there a fake ZigBee switch that you stick over your current switches or on the wall?

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I know it's probably super niche but my family likes physical switches

bronze prism
# quartz flume No one has any ideia?

do you have a model number? have you had a look at the Z2M device page - sometimes it mentions some quirks on the device.. have you tried removing the batteries and putting them back? Have you also tried removing and re-pairing the device? .. hopefully that gives some normal troubleshooting steps to try..

bronze prism
true girder
bronze prism
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fair enough.. maybe someone else knows then

austere patio
bronze prism
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thanks puddly.. that's a good point 🙂

urban badge
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Is anyone else having issues with adding new Z2M devices to HA? Devices are created but no associated entities except link-quality and voltage. For my Aqara button (WXKG11LM) the action is not showing up in HA, but I can see the action in MQTT Explorer. I can even see the Action in HA under debug for the subscribed topics.

blissful rose
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Hello Zigbee folks.
I'm having a hard time trying to do something simple.
My aqara door sensor magnet is too far from the sensor when the door is closed, so it doesn't detect when it closes.
Do you guys know how to configure that distance using ZHA?
I looked everywhere and only found it inside the aqara home app, which I don't use. Thanks

molten linden
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the aqara contact sensor use an internal magnetic reed to detect the magnet, when it's strong enough it can pull a pin on the device low to trigger the contact. I'd be amazed if sensitivity could be changed via FW with this type sensor. other things to try getting a stronger magnet (or maybe modifying the sensor with a more sensitive reed)

supple hazel
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yeah i'd try a beefier magnet (my aeotec door sensor came with two, one large one small, for different distances)

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stronger, not necessarily bigger

tropic depot
blissful rose
blissful rose
blissful rose
tropic depot
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I wanna see what configuration you are talking about

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what sensor is this?

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which version of their contact sensor

twin cargo
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Hi, I have switched my Zigbee setup from a Sonoff to a TUBEs POE adapter. I used the instructions from here to create and restore a backup
https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-cli/pull/2
All went well, however in the last step, where I changed the ZHA config in the config/.storage/core.config_entries I did that as well, but now, when home asssistant restarts I have this error

Setup failed for zha: Unable to import component: cannot import name 'NetworkNotFormed' from 'zigpy.exceptions' (/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/zigpy/exceptions.py)

austere patio
twin cargo
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I might have f*d that step up ... how to revert to the stable zigpy version?

quartz flume
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After i reinstall my homeassistant because of catastrofical fail in my SD card, my Z2M is strange, after a couple days, the zigbee network stop responding and all commands return a timeout.

if i go to the device page in z2m addon page, and send the command directly the device works, still throws a timeout error, tried to change the dongle, the raspberry pi, reinstall it, changes configs, any ideias?

quartz flume
austere patio
twin cargo
quartz flume
austere patio
quartz flume
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cc2562 both

austere patio
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Can you clarify "if i go to the device page in z2m addon page, and send the command directly the device works, still throws a timeout error"? Are you sending it to the device itself? Or to a group? Do you mean that the device functions but you still get an error?

quartz flume
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To the device it self

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The 'on' by the side of the state toggle. The state toggle doesn't work

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Coordinator type
zStack3x0
Coordinator revision
20210708

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Another strange thing is when asking for the map, just after restarting the addon, it fails to retrieve the LQI for all the routers which is not the coordinator. Sometimes after one or two hours it start getting it, but after a day or two all breaks down again.

austere patio
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Without debug logs it's next to impossible to tell what the problem is. I don't use Z2M and I don't know how to configure it for useful logging but see if you can figure out how to do that.

quartz flume
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I can grab the debug logs, but i dont know which ones you want

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2022-06-01T14:48:49.488Z zigbee-herdsman:controller:log 'zcl' data is from unknown device with address '21432', skipping...

This is something strange?

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2022-06-01T14:48:49.488Z zigbee-herdsman:controller:log 'zcl' data is from unknown device with address '21432', skipping...
2022-06-01T14:48:49.489Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:zStack:unpi:parser --- parseNext []
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-06-01 11:48:54: Failed to execute LQI for 'rel chuveiro dentro'```
austere patio
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What are the reasons for requests failing?

quartz flume
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i don't know...?
This was when i click to render the map

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Any ideia how to find this device with address '21432'?

blissful rose
# blissful rose Hello Zigbee folks. I'm having a hard time trying to do something simple. My aqa...

Ok, so I reset the Hub and paired with Home app, then reset again and tried with Mi app, none of them I found the option to define the distance.
I have two theories, A: I dreamed about that option, B: I'm getting crazy... either way, I apologize for losing everybody's time.
I ended up removing the sensor, cleaning the sticker, adding another sticker and finding a better position for the sensor.
I'm not sure how I managed to make it work for a few months on the previous position, but it may be even better now.
Thank you all for the help.

wary harbor
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i see the aqara p1 sensors working with the latest updates, cool stuff!

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any way to configure the cool down time? and what is the ias_zone sensor?

tropic depot
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yes and that's the actual motion sensor entity

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ias_zone is the cluster in zigbee

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there should be a number entity in the config / diagnostic section

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that is what allows you to change the time between motion triggers

wary harbor
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oh, so motion detection is thru the ias_zone

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what occupancy, what's that for?

wary harbor
tropic depot
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they're entities...

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not in the menus

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was your device already paired?

wary harbor
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yes

tropic depot
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remove it from HA

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reset it

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and re-join it

wary harbor
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oh ok, I'll give it a shot

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better 🙂

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so what's occupancy?

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and the opple_cluster trigger_indicator? any place I can readup on those?

tropic depot
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trigger indicator is the sensor flashing when it detects motion

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Occupancy in this context is just a much longer timeout on the sensor

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10 minutes in this case IIRC

wary harbor
tropic depot
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not atm

wary harbor
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I understand the idea behind it, but how does occupancy works in the p1? is it just a timer in this case?

tropic depot
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yes...

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real presence (occupancy) will come with the Aqara FP1

wary harbor
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Interesting

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I wonder why they added that to the p1.. running a timer can be done from any device, even their app. Were they being lazy? idk

tropic depot
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it's not part of it per se

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they expose the occupancy cluster

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BUT they treat it like motion

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so we include both to correct it

wary harbor
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got it

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the article you linked mentions Hiome, sounds like a neat product 🙂

tropic depot
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i just grabbed one of the first occupancy vs motion links from google

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lol

wary harbor
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haha

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$190 for one

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@tropic depot will there be battery readings in later versions?

tropic depot
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it's there now

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it reports like 1x an hour

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give it some time

wary harbor
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oh cool, thanks

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oh yeah, what about luminance? I saw it before removing and re-adding the sensor, but it's not available anymore

tropic depot
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are you sure?

finite osprey
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Hello all! I am trying to figure out why some zigbee devices randomly drop off the network, and on occasion come back, or commands get repeated (one manual on/off becomes multiple on/off/on/off). In looking at logs I found a ton of these errors: [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] Max concurrency reached, delaying requests (125 enqueued). I assume they are not good... any clue on what I should be looking at?

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This too doesn't look good: [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] Previously delayed request is now running, delayed by 27.51 seconds

obsidian sandalBOT
finite osprey
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This started moving from conbee II to a sonoff usb coordinator (all was fine before)

cobalt dew
twilit narwhal
mellow geode
austere patio
finite osprey
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@hasty quest My logs have close to 2000 "Previously delayed request is now running" but most are under 15s. The longest ones, like the one I saw last night, appear to be within minutes of a reboot.

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@hasty quest "you're sending way more concurrent requests than the radio can handle (16)." - how do I find what those requests are? Looking at the newly updated history tab in HA, I noticed that an outlet with energy monitoring appears to be sending updates non stop. I am unaware of any way to limit its chattiness unlike zwave devices. Is it just a matter of it being improperly configured? (I seem to have lots of zigbee devices failing to configure)

wary harbor
finite osprey
mellow geode
midnight robin
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is this normal? i'm having some very strange response times with my motion sensors after switching to Z2M (I've also changed usb extention cables so i'm not sure which - this increased LQI though.)

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I see in Zigbee2Mqtt's logs, there's duplicate publish topics like ..turning on the light twice almost simultaneously?

austere patio
midnight robin
finite osprey
austere patio
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You can dm it to me or use a code sharing site if the log is small enough

finite osprey
wary harbor
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@mellow geode this is mine https://ibb.co/r4DtvbN - this is after removing and re-adding the sensor - I think you had your sensor configured before updating to the latest hass, right? because I had the same thing before re-adding the sensor

wary harbor
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@tropic depot but before removing and re-adding the sensor, my view was like @mellow geode's https://imgur.io/a/GeFyJAG with the luminance showing

mellow geode
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I’ll try to re-pair mine later

tropic depot
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I think I know what is wrong

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hold off for now

wanton lake
mellow geode
restive tartan
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Can one of the big amazon echo that support zigbee be connected to HA?

sour shadow
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Yes, but not for use as a Zigbee coordinator/hub

tropic depot
restive tartan
sour shadow
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You can't

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You can use it like any other Alexa device

restive tartan
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Ah, already have that. I realize I didn't word my question correctly. Thanks for the clarification

sour shadow
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Like most other devices with Zigbee on-board it expects to be the coordinator, and the mesh can only have one of those

mighty river
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Any objections to the ConBee II?

austere patio
mighty river
obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

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mighty river
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I'm so lost...do I need a "coordinator" or a "router"? Do I need a "debug adapter kit"? Do I have to "flash" the adapter after I get it?

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Beginning to think maybe Hubitat is the way to go for a dumbass like me.

molten linden
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coordinator - this is what connects with HA to run the zigbee network

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Routers (repeaters) are mains powered devices on the zigbee network which relay/repeat/route traffic

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depending on which adapter you buy depends on if you need to flash. generally all can be flashed over USB.

mighty river
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Aren't Zigbee devices all mesh routers already?

molten linden
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yes, zigbee is a mesh. but there are end-devices which are battery powered (and some mains powered) devices like various sensors. generally mains powered devices like bulbs or outlets are routers which extend and create the mesh. they all talk to each other. https://imgur.com/a/ouT4Mwy my "mesh"

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end devices do not route/repeat traffic they are just node connected directly to the coordinator or a router on the network

sour shadow
mighty river
sour shadow
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Learning the terms will help you a lot

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Wilful ignorance is only going to hurt you

molten linden
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basically don't get a coordinator and a bunch of battery powered sensors and spread them out thinking it will work. you need mains powered devices to create the mesh.

sour shadow
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And not all mains powered devices count, some (Sengled bulbs) behave like end (battery) devices

exotic crater
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Hey folks since the last update my zigbee to mqtt lists half of the devices as N/A and giving me many different errors. was there something in the last HA update what I missed?

fair mountain
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so I finally got a response out of LEviton for the DGS15S .. the person I'm speaking with claims there is a StartUpCurrentLevel attribute, I don't see one. Am I blind as a bat?

primal blade
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something went wrong with my zigbee integration when the zigbee dongle got pulled out. I am still testing it out so I don't have anything I rely on setup yet.
Can I move the dongle to my laptop to reflash it and connect some devices and then move it back to the machine that is running homeassistant? What do I need to do from HA side of things to wipe the old zigbee2mqtt installation and files so I can reinstall?

fair mountain
primal blade
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yeah. I don't mind that. I didn't really connect anything yet besides a few devices just to test.

bronze prism
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i presume if you are remaking your MQTT broker you will have to re-configure the MQTT broker in HA..?

fair mountain
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lol but the director from Leviton Technical Services told me the StartUpCurrentLevel attribute should exist.

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But it doesn't.

bronze prism
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sorry I meant which zigbee integration you are using.. ZHA, Z2M etc

fair mountain
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I don't think I'm blind. I see no 0x400 in the attributes list.

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Oh Im using ZHA

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I sent the dude a dump of the attribute list

bronze prism
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sorry don't know enough to help you confirm that lol

primal blade
fair mountain
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I have talked about this before with someone here, but I don't remember who .. thanks @bronze prism no worries.

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i hope i can get it to work, otherwise im ripping these switches out.

bronze prism
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hopefully he will reply when he or she is online then

fair mountain
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they responded to my last email in 5 mins

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oh, here. yeah. maybe.

bronze prism
fair mountain
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I am surprised I didnt get shut down by their tech support when i was like "Im using homeassistant."

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instead I got "we follow zigbee 3.0, check out their attribute pdf, here is the attribute."

bronze prism
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that's quite surprising indeed

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possibly ZHA doesn't support it then?

mighty river
fair mountain
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maybe? i think the level is for their dimmer vs

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the actual switch ..

mighty river
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I just don't have time to go down a rabbit hole figuring out how all this shit works.

fair mountain
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oh it was @austere patio

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I think ..

austere patio
fair mountain
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it doesn't exist, because it's not a dimmer.

austere patio
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What does the device signature show?

fair mountain
mellow geode
fair mountain
austere patio
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The signature won't contain the attributes, just the clusters

fair mountain
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which I also dont see ..

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I asked him if he was talknig about the dimmer

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or if the firmware was too old ..

molten linden
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Ask them if they have a fw update 😂 and link to the video Jasco put out today 🤷🏼‍♂️

fair mountain
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Im wondering if that's why I got a response after 3 months

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From the director of Leviton technical services ..

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I sent the email in February

molten linden
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@fair mountain you aren’t crazy 😂 I just wired up the Leviton dg15s I had in a box in a test rig and there is no level control cluster. I tried setting the start up value in the on off cluster but it doesn’t take it. They say it’s zigbee 3 yet the zcl_version reports 2 which is 1.2🤔 the 3.0 devices I have report 3 there. If you have a lead there definitely press them for any fw updates.

severe linden
midnight robin
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my understanding is that it is defaulted to 5 dBm

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is it as simple as changing the value in Z2M?

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or is there a need to change the antenna on that device or something

terse crystal
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is there anyway of knowing how often a Tradfri Button connects to a zigbee network?

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is it frequent ?

sour shadow
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If you're using Zigbee2MQTT it tells you when it reports in

terse crystal
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yep

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just looking at the logs now

sour shadow
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Set last_seen

terse crystal
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seems to be roughly every 40 mins

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is there a usb powered Zigbee device I could use just for presence ...put one in each car and know if they are at home for example

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I guess that is a stupid question as there is heaps

sour shadow
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Well, yes but no

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The problem is that:

  1. Most routers will forget a child device that doesn't report in for over 24 hours
  2. Most end devices won't keep trying to reconnect
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Using an ESP that connects to your WiFi is likely to be a better solution, and there's plenty of guides out there for doing that

terse crystal
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true

sour shadow
terse crystal
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oh nice one 🙂

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thanks

languid swan
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Hi, I have two xiaomi illuminance sensor (GZCGQ01LM) but both of them show same value from the 1st connection to HA. Both of them are on different location, but illuminance value does not change . I´m using Conbee2 + ZHA integration for zigbee devices
https://i.imgur.com/sltsvra.png they show value 3 576 020,5 lx

Already removed, paired again, updated HA, restarted HA , .. still same value

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any clue ?

austere patio
fair mountain
molten linden
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What part?

fair mountain
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the 1.3

mellow geode
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zcl_version=2 is also Zigbee 3.0 IIRC. It’s only revision 6 though while zcl version 3 is rev 7 (or 8?) of ZCL specs

wanton fractal
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been trying to find something about it and i found something similar in this chat. But some time this week (most likely after HA update yesterday) i got new entities on all my IKEA lamps(level_start_up_current_level / level_on_off_transition_time / level_on_level) . Anyone knows what they do?

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also the outlets

sour shadow
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ZHA?
Zigbee2MQTT?

wanton fractal
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sry ZHA

molten linden
# fair mountain the 1.3

if you go in the basic cluster, you and read the zcl_version attribute. for Zigbee 3.0 devices it will come back 3. For Zigbee 1.2 it comes back 2, and for zigbee 1 it comes back 1.

mellow geode
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I just checked my newer Hue lights which all come with a Zigbee 3.0 "link code" and all feature the GreenPowerProxy introduced in Zigbee 3.0.
They all return zcl_version=2 while the older lights only return 1

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So I‘m pretty sure zcl_version=2 is also Zigbee 3.0 but just an older revision (6 vs 7/8)

mellow geode
# wanton fractal also the outlets

Ignore the transition/level stuff on the outlets. It’s IKEA‘s fault for basically using the exact firmware from their lights.
The other settings should do what they say (for lights)

mellow geode
wanton fractal
fair mountain
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So that's not a good metric ...

molten linden
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interesting, had not tried the newer hue bulbs just an older one. sigh.

fair mountain
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Yes, my latest Hue bulbs return 2 for zcl_version.

molten linden
fair mountain
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These are 1741930V7 bulbs (Hue Calab..)

mellow geode
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In the ZCL Library Specs, there’s a changelog in one of the first versions where it’s mentioned when the ZCL version was bumped

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If I read it correctly, it was only bumped from 2 to 3 for some "smaller" changes (but both are Zigbee 3.0)

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Latest ZCL specs should be revision 8 (and Zigbee 3.0 should be revision 6 which mentions zcl version 2)

molten linden
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ledvance/slyvania plug returns a 1 😂

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so disregard what I said lol

mellow geode
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Oh god, those things constantly dropped of my network

molten linden
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the pre ledvance Osram bulbs were just awful

fair mountain
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heh, this is why I only buy Hue bulbs

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my *~9 year old Hue bulbs are still truckin' along.

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8~9

mellow geode
molten linden
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At one point Smartthings had a disclaimer on their osram device page about how the devices were problematic routers. 😂

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well I can still confirm the Leviton switch didn't support the
start_up_on_off attribute in the on_off cluster

mellow geode
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Yeah, maybe they didn’t implement it correctly

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I guess writing to it (even if it’s not reading correctly) also doesn’t work?

molten linden
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I think they got confused when they told @fair mountain to use the level control cluster as it's just an on/off switch. they also sell a dimmer version which would have that.

young sluice
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Hi Guys, is there a device I could use to replace an analog bell? I just want to replace the actual chime of the doorbell, I already have a zigbee button to use on the the door but not a bell or chime, is there something like that?
Im not an native english speaker so its seems like im struggling finding the right device for it

molten linden
mellow geode
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Huh, I also have some Aqara plugs which report a slightly different signature every time they’re paired (probably a bug/race condition)

molten linden
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I re-paired it at least 4 times I got the same sig on prod (efr32) and test (cc2652) networks as well

molten linden
primal blade
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Is there a (written) guide for setting up z2m in ha? I installed the addon, I am not sure about setting up mqtt for z2m and telling z2m which serial device to use. Also I got a notification that HA discovered a new device, my zigbee dongle, am I supposed to configure that or is it for ZHA?

young sluice
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I had a xiaomi gateway but It has become useless to me since i flashed openwrt on it, I just dont know how to handle it, I gave up on that

molten linden
young sluice
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everything I find about it is in russian

primal blade
molten linden
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if you want to use Z2M yes

primal blade
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ok.

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I am still lost as to how to connect/configure mqtt.

molten linden
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mqtt is another addon - and that's a bit outside the scope of this channel,

sour shadow
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This channel can help with configuring Z2M to use your working broker

primal blade
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Ok, I see. I think I got that part working. I installed z2m on a seperate machine and everything works and gets published via mqtt. I want to move it back to the HA machine now. (I turned off mqtt on HA while I was testing so those devices are not in HA until I move back)

slate glacier
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I am losing my mind trying to flash my new sonoff 3.0 dongle

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the bootloader button does nothing - the device shows up the same no matter what I do - push button then plug in, push button, unplug, plug in, hold for 10 seconds, let go, etc. i cannot get this thing into bootloader, and if it is in bootloader, that is not clear in windows

sour shadow
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What tool are you using?

slate glacier
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I have tried flash programmer 2

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bootloader does not show up

sour shadow
slate glacier
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i am currently trying cc2538-bsl but because the device does not show up, i cannot point it at the port.

sour shadow
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It has a flag for the Sonoff stick, shown in the example

sour shadow
slate glacier
sour shadow
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Not at all, I've used it on Windows

slate glacier
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How is that possible? Are you using WSL?

sour shadow
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By installing Python

slate glacier
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wget, sudo, etc don't exist on windows but whatever

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how do I point it at a /dev/tty when there is no /dev/tty exposed by the dongle?

sour shadow
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You don't - you use the path to the serial device

slate glacier
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I just get this

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(can't send images)

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but i just get "sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb" etc in device manager

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no serial device

sour shadow
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You need to ensure you've installed the right drivers for it to show up as a serial device

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Then you can use

python3 .\cc2538-bsl.py -p COM3 -evw .\CC2652R_coordinator_20210708.hex
slate glacier
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I have cp2012 installed, everything

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booted in safe mode, reinstalled drivers, seems to have flashed now

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is it possible to check the version to make sure it flashed

languid geode
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So I'm trying out zigbee2mqtt, and I'm probably just dumb or something, but while I was able to connect 2 of the same type of device with ZHA no problem, once z2m connects with one, it doesn't seem to auto find the other.

Is this a thing or am I just dumb? (I'd bet on the latter)

Only setting up 2 plugs as routers and 2 aqara cubes at the moment.

For network context, I have one plug connected, and about 5 feet away another that won't connect.

languid geode
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hmph, well changed the channel and now it works. it was me after all 🙂

tribal rose
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Anybody familiar with migrating to zigbee2mqtt from whatever the default is.. i think zha?

raven jewel
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What's your question or problem?

tribal rose
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Not even sure where to get started

raven jewel
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Well, step one, install the addon 😉

tribal rose
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The documentation is.. written from a perspective of already having familiarity

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Fair enough, I am that far along.

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I flipped to the documentation tab, which starts about enabling built-in front end.

raven jewel
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Well, if it's an addon, that's just a toggle on the config page

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If you enable "show in sidebar", it will be in the sidebar, and if it's running then it should open when you click on it

tribal rose
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"Make sure your add-on options (what? where?) have the right settings (what are the right settings?). If you already had experimental options (new installer I'm sure I don't), you might now automatically get new_api set (what's the significance?) properly on update."

Then in the code box. "frontend: port: 8099" Okay, and where does that go

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etc.

raven jewel
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In the addon configuration page

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The reason it's vague is because you might be running it as a separate docker container, and you are expected to just poke around and try things

tribal rose
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Okay. so the add-on options are under socat?

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tehre's no show in sidebar toggle.

raven jewel
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Mine definitely has a show in sidebar option on the first tab of the addon page for Z2M

tribal rose
raven jewel
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That is not the first tab

tribal rose
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oh the info page

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okay we were talking about the configuration page so i was mixed up

raven jewel
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This is the addon configuration in general. There's also configuration inside Zigbee2MQTT

tribal rose
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500 error on that.. the documentation speaks about enabling ingress. without indicating how.

raven jewel
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It's automatically enabled for the addon I believe

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Enable ingress to have the frontend available in your UI: Supervisor → Dashboard → Zigbee2mqtt → Show in sidebar.

tribal rose
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I found the configuration.yaml for the addon. the only line it has is homeassistant: true

raven jewel
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It also does tell you exactly how to do it

tribal rose
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That results in a 500 error, there's more to it

raven jewel
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Which is the show in sidebar we just did

tribal rose
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Yes, that sidebar is now there

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it doesn't load anything but a 500 error

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so there's still misconfiguration

raven jewel
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Then something is wrong, if you messed with socat that's likely it

tribal rose
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I didn't touch anything because it isn't clear what to touch

raven jewel
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You need to configure mqtt/mosquitto and the serial

tribal rose
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Except for that toggle you pointed me to

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Okay got it

tribal rose
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alright, once i found the correct value for serial port the front end is running, woot

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Appreciate the help

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I take it this is different from zha where if it's configured to permit join then new devices will be configured constnatly.. as opposed to zha where you have to turn it on and it's only on briefly..

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Does the stick itself normally show under devices in z2m ?

raven jewel
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You shouldn't set it to permanently allow connecting new devices, otherwise you may find yourself inadvertently stealing your neighbours devices. Use the "permit join" button inside it to toggle it on when you need it

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And no, the stick itself doesn't usually show, except in the map

tribal rose
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It's the blue star in the map?

raven jewel
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Yup

tribal rose
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Ahh, interviewing is happening. Hallelujah

willow bronze
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Is there support for Zemismart Zigbee door lock in ZHA?

willow bronze
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Paul Hibbert says it doesn't work but that was a month ago, although I can't find any references on device handlers GitHub page

mild condor
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What’s the “go to” chip for making a battery-powered zigbee end device? (I want to make zigbee plant soil moisture sensors). Do folks usually go for the CC2530?

near echo
fair mountain
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I don't see the StartupCurrentLevel (0x400). Is it possible that the attribute is for the DG6HD (dimmer) and not just the switch version (DG15S)? Is my firmware too old?

Attached is a dump of all the clusters. (Scroll down to the data section in the attached file.)

Best.
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and havent heard back

molten linden
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They had a Reddit ama last month would have been good to try and get feedback then

fair mountain
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They closed the AMA so quickly nobody could actually respond lol

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It was open for like 2 hours

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Anyway "Scott" is apparently the director of leviton technical services (??)

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and nobody in ;/r/homeautomation asked about firmwares ..

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(Because why would they)

molten linden
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yeah I know I read through it the other night. sigh

fair mountain
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same subreddit that defends Ubiquiti.

obsidian sandalBOT
rigid elbow
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Hi, I am currently getting an issue with a light connected via deConz (conbee II) - it gives me an error

I get a message "home assistant failed to call service NoneType is not iterable"

Actually this is the stack trace, can anyone help ?

obsidian sandalBOT
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sour shadow
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You got ticked off by the bot the first time you did that, please stop doing it

rigid elbow
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damn - i need to get to grips with this bot lol

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sorry

sour shadow
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Remember, this is chat, not a forum, lots of short lines with blank lines between aren't a good fit

rigid elbow
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ok thanks - noted..

Has my msg disappeared then, or its still viewable ?

I will do better next time 🙂

sour shadow
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It's still there, but get out of the habit of writing a few words, skipping a blank line, writing a few more words, skipping a blank line

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If you keep doing that the bot will keep slapping your posts away

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(It's also shitty to read on mobile)

rigid elbow
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Ok - yep i think i understand that now. Thank you.

sour shadow
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Does the light work if you control it via deCONZ's own UI?

rigid elbow
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Let me check.

sour shadow
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That'll tell us if the problem is HA<>deCONZ or deCONZ<>light

rigid elbow
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Yes it does, perfect. Works via the app and physically touching it also.

sour shadow
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Ok, so it's a problem with HA talking to deCONZ... which is unusual

obsidian sandalBOT
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deCONZ by dresden elektronik is a software that communicates with ConBee/RaspBee Zigbee gateways and exposes Zigbee devices that are connected to the gateway. Our #zigbee-archived channel is a good place to ask about using it with Home Assistant, but they also have their own Discord server.

Command '~deconz' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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You may find people that can help more at their Discord, though it's also quite likely they'll just say works in deCONZ, not our problem

mild condor
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FWIW I had great success in terms of improving reliability when I switched to Zigbee2mqtt 🙂

sour shadow
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Well, of the three choices, deCONZ is about the worst ablobjoy

rigid elbow
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WIth the stack trace, it seems that its trying to iterate some values and get NoneType, could there be something I could check to see what it is expecting ?

mild condor
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yeah, I think it’s just over represented in tutorials so people jump to it. at least that’s what happened to me.

sour shadow
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Yup, lots of people are sucked in by the history, and that it's a commercial product. Commercial must mean good...

mild condor
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@rigid elbow have you taken a look at the file and line number at the bottom of the trace?

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might clarify what it’s attempting to iterate over

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it makes me think that self._device.manufacturer is None for some reason

rigid elbow
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Thanks @mild condor , I will take a look. Out of interest, do you use zigbee2MQTT has a plugin to HM or a completely separate - bypassing HM ?

mild condor
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Ian’s question

soft plover
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Hello do you know of a cheap motion detector with brightness sensor which immediately switches motion detection back on?

sour shadow
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You're a lot better off buying separate sensors than a two-in-one that does one of them badly

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That said... the Develco MOSZB-140 has both, and is actually pretty decent at both if a little big

languid geode
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Ah man, hooked Z2M up in node red with just an MQTT listener. This is pure joy. Fine grained control from ZigBee input devices. I love it.

slate glacier
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Is it possible to make a zigbee device (eg a remote with low transmit power) connect to a better router manually?

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I have a remote and bulb far-ish away from my coordinator but the remote is intent on connecting to the coordinator directly instead of to the bulb, which has much higher lq

sour shadow
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Short answer, no

mellow geode
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If it works, I don’t see a reason. You can try to re-pair the remote by only allowing joins on a specific router

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It might still move away though

sour shadow
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Long answer, maybe - you can try forcing it to join through the router, but you can't force it to stay there

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Always pair in place though

slate glacier
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theoretically it should stick on a router that has a sane connection strength

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I'll repair 👌

slate glacier
sour shadow
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Yes

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And... what you think is sane may differ from what the device manufacturer thinks is sane - or the firmware developer thinks is sane

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Xiaomi for instance joins via the first device it hears, even if it then hears many stronger signals

slate glacier
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Worked perfectly.

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connected through the right bulb now and much, much higher lq

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Only thing now is that this one remote (E2001/2002) only gives me a red percent sign for power level

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another identical remote works fine

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    "action": "",
    "battery": null,```
slate glacier
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reconfigure worked.

gaunt monolith
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Does anyone here happen to have any Visonic MCT-340 E sensors working? I've been trying to get them to properly connect to Home Assistant all day but no luck. They get recognized when I put them in pairing mode, but I get a bunch of "Message send failure" logs, and all the values for the sensors say Unknown. This is ZHA

molten linden
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I have some they are some of the first zigbee sensors I got. Maybe interference if they aren’t communicating well.

gaunt monolith
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My Conbee stick is near my wifi router, so perhaps it could be interference. I'll move the conbee and see if that changes anything

molten linden
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Make sure it’s on an usb extension cable as well.

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(Conbee should come with them as they are recommended per their own docs 🤦‍♂️)

tribal rose
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After to switch to Z2M and changing the stick to a cc2652 all my zigbee stuff is finally reliable

terse crystal
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is it easy enough to add an unlisted device to Z2M

azure tinsel
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Are more people experiencing strange behaviour with zigbee2mqtt the last few weeks. I have lights not reacting until I cut power. Sensors that don't report their state and the strangest of the all, yesterday an aqara door sensor send an open state in the middle of the night and reported closed an hour later. I can't seem to find the problem other then a couple of versions back this strange behaviour started all of a sudden.

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Also aqara temp sensors that stop reporting their states until I press the small button

winged granite
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I changed my hardware and since then multiple devices are not working any more. This means I am not able to pair them again. For example a motion sensor. I press the reset button 4 times. Normally it appears a red light and I can pair them. Now, no light. The device is "dead". It's super weird because a new server has nothing to do with the device but there is this correlation. Before the hardware swap everything was working perfect.
I already changed the battery, didn't work. Any idea what's going on here?

sour shadow
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What are those devices - make and model?

winged granite
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IKEA Tradfri. One motion sensor and one On/Off Button Switch

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I have Aqara and Sonoff devices too. Aqara just kept working. Sonoff needed to be repaired but then worked again instantly. But the IKEA devices -> "dead"

azure tinsel
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I have some issues lately with hue lights falling of the network or become totally unresponsive even repairing them does not work I have to force reset them with a hue dimmer switch and repair the.and even then it takes 5 to 10 times of doing this before zigbee2mqtt isn't giving errors anymore. I'm not sure what causes all these problems but the last few updates have surely broken allot of stuff for me

uneven ruin
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this doesn't sound like a software issue, sounds like a mesh issue possibly interference

lusty trellis
sour shadow
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Depends on whether it can be flashed with suitable firmware or not

lusty trellis
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Under Setup/ Devices / Models it is indicated "Multi-mode Gateway (unsupported)" ; do I have a chance to make run this ZigBee Gateway under ZHA ?

winged granite
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I have an old and a new Aqara Window Sensor. The old one works like expected, the new one doenst work after pairing without any problems. It's just always "off".

lusty trellis
sour shadow
ocean cloak
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I have a device that won't join via a router right next to it, but will join if I allow a join "all" and joins to the main coordinator (using Z2M)

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That router has a connection (it's a smart plug) because I'm able to turn it on and off just fine

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The router however does have a somewhat weak connection. Will a device not connect to a router if it's connection is weak, even if it has no other option?

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The device I'm trying to connect is an Aqara vibration sensor. I believe I had it connected to this router at one point and I don't know when it decided to connect to the coordinator instead. I had been told that Aqara devices also don't dynamically change their router so it's weird that that happened

quartz flume
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Hey guys, have been looking for this for a while, do any one have some guides or links on diy ZigBee components? There's things I want to build for my self which I can't buy here or do not exists where I could build to integrate in my ZigBee network but I can't find any guides on diy. On wifi I have used esphome really easy but I would like to do some in ZigBee.

austere pasture
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Hey guys, I've been happily using ZHA in combination with a raspbee 2 on hass os - Since I upgraded to hassOS 8, I always get the following error:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/asyncio/tasks.py", line 490, in wait_for
return fut.result()
asyncio.exceptions.CancelledError
...
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/asyncio/tasks.py", line 492, in wait_for
raise exceptions.TimeoutError() from exc
asyncio.exceptions.TimeoutError

I of course can share the full exception if needed. I could not find any related issue to this - maybe somebody of you has an idea on what is causing this/how I can fix it?

median dome
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Hello guys. Need your help. Example: if i install wall switch module but only L/N + switch, without connecting bulbs, zigbee2mqtt compatible module. Will i be able to control other devices in HA with that switch? 🤷‍♂️

halcyon shore
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hi, I am trying to load zha-quirks (and a custom quirk) on my haspi. I edited the configuration.yaml to set custom_quirks_path and enable_quirks: true, but I have no idea if the custom quirks are actually applied (nothing changed in the gui). So I was wondering: if the quirks are enabled, should my devices be displayed as something different than the "smart plug" they are now (should be a curtain control) or do I have to re-add the device? Is there any log line that tells me the custom quirks are loaded?

snow trellis
elder current
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Don't have anything Zigbee yet, but just ordered 2 smart locks that are Zigbee, best dongle to get? ATM Running HA on a Pi, but will probably move it to be a VM on my new NAS (its 6c/12t desktop, not like a little synology), I'm assuming any USB dongle should work fine? any better at range/stability than others?

jade cargo
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this is the one I like

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works well with z2m

elder current
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Thanks, when you say z2m, do you mean zigbee to MQTT?

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That seams to be the main way to do it?

uneven ruin
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yes

jade cargo
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yep

untold obsidian
elder current
# untold obsidian Possibly this was dealt with earlier but similar question as for my sprinkler-sy...

https://www.liquidate-it.com.au/shop/p/lockwoodtlock

Thats the lock I got, I believe it just stays in the last state it had when it was powered, and its got terminals to connect a 9v battery to re-power it.

I've also got some non-smart locks around the house, and have spare keys at my parents, so I've got 2 backup plans, go to the servo and get a 9v battery, or go to my parents and get keys for other locks.

Not really concerned about either one since the batteries are meant to give low warning for over a month before they run out, I'm also installing 2 of them, so planning to just regurally change both every 6 months or whatever, but stagger them so I change 1 set of batteries every 3 months, so even if 1 is flat the other smart lock wont be, and even if both are I have the 2 backup plans as above

untold obsidian
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"since the batteries are meant to give low warning"... one of my zigbee devices dropped in 2 days from 85% to 0%. In most cases I cannot care much too but thatis different for sprinkler and lock....

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and it would be nice to be able to configure a default state as to when they go to when things 'fail'

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for my sprinkler, I returned to a non-connected setup, when battery dies the tap closes

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for the lock I would expect the same....close when failure applies

elder current
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I believe the lock uses regular AA batteries, not the coin cells lots of things use, so should last a lot longer and be more reliable, I've had nothing but issues with coin batteries, they are hopeless, so im not to concerned, if it used coin cells I would be

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if it still has issues, im not opposed to drilling a small hole the whole way through my door and running a DC cable to it directly so it dosen't use batteries, if it is a problem thats my planned solution, I hate changing batteries, this is my 1 exception because its more annoying to run a cable haha

winged granite
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Anyone experienced that Ikea Tradfri Motion Sensors just die after a while? No red light while trying to pair any more. Battery has still 0,8 Volt, measured it

honest salmon
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how can I check if Aubess Tuya Zigbee Hub can be integrated in HA ?

sour shadow
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By buying something known to work instead

honest salmon
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my aim is to make smart lock of my entrance door. I have already well working zigbee2mqtt network with Sonoff dongle, but is hard to find door lock, which is comatable with z2mqtt

wanton wave
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guys how to pair CC2531 as a coordinator

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How to pair it after flashing router firmware

sour shadow
sour shadow
wanton wave
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oh i didnt meant to

sour shadow
wanton wave
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only saw the reply mentioning cc2531

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sorry

sour shadow
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The answer is ... plug it in to power

wanton wave
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I had alreeady

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but its not been recognized by the coordinator

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do i need to press S1 or s2 switch to pair

sour shadow
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I just flashed it and then powered it up while Z2M was in pairing mode

wanton wave
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i use ZHA

sour shadow
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Well, same principle applies

wanton wave
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dont know why its just flash green when powered on and the light turns off

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But in zha even after serahcing for device it doesnt show up

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Will try to flash the firmware again

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Thanks for replying

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And sorry again for tagging ur reply

fair mountain
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lol never did hear back from Leviton ..

molten linden
halcyon shore
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how do you enable zha-quirks on haspi... is there a package for it or do I have to manually add it using pip?

molten linden
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it is pulled in as a dependency - no need to install anything

halcyon shore
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cool... so just enabling it in the configuration.yaml should work.. is there a log file that tells me its laoded, because I tried adding hardware where I need the quirks and they show up as "switch" instead of the curtain controls they are

molten linden
halcyon shore
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I enabled that and also added one there

molten linden
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you have to re start HA for it to be picked up.

halcyon shore
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I have one quirk thats not released for the thermostat and one that should be released for the curtian controls, but neither seem to work

molten linden
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well check the device page for the device and see if the quirk is picked up.

halcyon shore
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is there any info so I know it has been picked up (restarted a few times)

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one sec...

molten linden
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it's possible the device doesn't match the quirk (tuya devices often have lots of similar devices with different signatures.

halcyon shore
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hmm still says "_TZE200_nhyj64w2" -> Smart plug

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same for my "_TZE200_ye5jkfsb"

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so its supposed to show something different if the quirk is applied, or do I have to re-add the device

molten linden
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under the device info (in 2022.06 you have to hit the carrot to expand) you should see if a quirk is applied or not

halcyon shore
molten linden
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recommend looking for issues/PRs with matching model numbers at the quirks repo - if nothing there create an issue with the requested info in the template

halcyon shore
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I think the quirks just arent applied... I checked and one of the devices should be there, and the other I put in the custom quirks frolder from the issue.. I am guessing the quirks arent loaded at all... Is there any log to see if the quirks are loaded (btw: my config https://imgur.com/Nn4wITa )

molten linden
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enable debug logging and you will see when a quirk is matched or why it isn't

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quirks match based on the device signature

halcyon shore
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will do that... thanks

sudden plank
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I'm struggling to understand how to reliably setup a zigbee network. I currently use an Aqara M2 Hub which I like because it's connected via Ethernet, and has proven much more reliable that it's M1S WiFi sibling. However, these only connect easily via the HomeKit Controller integration meaning that not all device capabilities are exposed. I've looked into bringing them in natively but it requires soldering and I'd rather avoid that if at all possible.

So I'm looking into adding a new Zigbee controller to my home that HA supports natively, and moving my devices over there instead. I know I can add something like the Conbee ii stick to my HA server but it's out in my garage in a rack — I can for sure run a USB extension and move the stick outside of the cage for better signal… but it's still really far away from my Zigbee devices. I'm trying to figure out how best to add something that would reliably extend the range of my Zigbee network… or is the signal just that good? I have a 3400sqft house on two floors.

Any help appreciated! 🙂

sour shadow
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Buy one of Tube's network connected coordinators

sudden plank
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Yup, I've been looking at those

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Do I just get one of those for each floor, for example, or would I be better served using a Conbee ii (or Sonoff) at the server and one of these for the second floor?

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I'm also now seeing that they're all Ethernet, just the more expensive ones are PoE. I can use a splitter to USB instead (already using one with the Aqara hub).

sour shadow
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Conbee ... blobcsignno

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Sonoff ... eh, there's been build quality issues - but they are cheap

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Tube also does USB ones, though keep in mind that it's one coordinator per mesh. If you have a second coordinator then that's a second mesh

sudden plank
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oh, that makes sense… would be better to keep more devices on a single mesh (I have dozens, not hundreds) for better connectivity to all of them, right?

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Can I use a Hue hub as a generic coordinator? I have one of those already…

sour shadow
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Well, there's two schools of thought there, and both are right

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I'd suggest you start with a single coordinator and mesh

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Then if you get issues with it becoming laggy due to the volume of activity on the mesh you can split it later

glacial robin
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Hi, I am currently running deconz on a conbee 2. is it possible to change to ZHA or do I need a certain type of conbee?

obsidian sandalBOT
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For Zigbee2MQTT any CC2652p (or CC2652) based stick is a good choice. Those are also a good choice for ZHA, which also supports the EmberZNet sticks (see here for some details). Don't pick the cheap CC2530/CC2531 sticks, and avoid the Sonoff Zigbee bridge since Zigbee and WiFi aren't friends. If you're not using deCONZ avoid the ConBee and RaspBee devices.

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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

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glacial robin
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Electrolama zig-a-zig-ah! (zzh!) - what a great name haha

glacial robin
raven jewel
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It should also work for ZHA. Take stock of your current devices, needs from future devices, and think a bit before deciding what you want/need

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Personally, as I have lots of Aqara/Xiaomi devices, I went with with Zigbee2MQTT as it supports those really well, and I can easily add support for a device myself should I want/need to

fair mountain
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Aqara/Xiaomi devices work the same with ZHA, fwiw.

raven jewel
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They do, but the newest ones don't yet have support so I can work around it in Z2M 😉

fair mountain
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lol. okay! dejavu w/ disinformation. they work fine in ZHA, you dont need to explicitly support things in ZHA like you do with z2m.

twilit narwhal
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If you already have a stick, try first with this stick and buy another one if you experience any issue. I have a conbee II working like a charm with Z2M, sometimes pairing needs to be done 2 times to get all the clusters right, but that's not like I do this every day.

cobalt dew
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for ethernet zigbee coordinators like say tube's whats the effective range please? and can i run a USB sonoff and an ethernet one at the same time? or two ethernet co-ordinators? ie how can I extend my coverage if I need to? TY

raven jewel
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There are Zigbee extenders, and many powered devices also extend/route for other devices. E.g. the button next to my bed routes through the bulb in the lamp next to it

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This is a decent overview

cobalt dew
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I have my house and a remote garage but I there is 1gb ethernet between them not line of sight

sour shadow
cobalt dew
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I'd like one docker install if I can

sour shadow
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You can't use multiple coordinators with a single ZHA or Z2M install

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You can run multiple Z2M instances on the same host

cobalt dew
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got any URLs please?

sour shadow
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For?

cobalt dew
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will keep digging

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ty

last ruin
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If I use deconz currently but want to try ZHA or zigbee2mqtt, can I simply remove deconz, install zha, repair the devices I want to test and later restore from backup to have everything the way it was?

sour shadow
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Well, except you'll have to re-pair all the devices to get them working again

lusty trellis
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Hi, I would like to control my garage door with the actual best device (Shelly, Sonoff or another wifi module) compatible with Home Assistant.
Which one do you recommend ? Which add-on will be required ? I don't want a cloud solution but a local one.
As an alternative, which ZigBee device would you recommend under ZHA ?
Thanks in advance

sour shadow
lusty trellis
sour shadow
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That's because it's a piece of Tuya junk 😛

lusty trellis
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Multi-mode gateway (unsupported)

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Do I have a chance to make it work ? How ?

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Yes it is from Tuya

sour shadow
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Same way as when you last asked that...

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I'd say your odds are somewhere between poor and zero

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Still, maybe somebody has working firmware for it shrug

lusty trellis
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on which forum could I ask if somebody has worked on firmware ?

sour shadow
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I doubt there's any particular place to ask - but you did check the GitHub issue? The device you bought isn't listed there?

lusty trellis
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no, I give up ; next time I will buy brand products such as Sonoff, Tasmota, Shelly,....

sour shadow
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If you bought the other device you'd linked, you'd (probably) be up and running

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Research first, buy once you know it'll work

lusty trellis
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👍

last ruin
sour shadow
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Because you're using the same stick, which will have the on board configuration over-written by ZHA

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Solution: Buy something other than a ConBee, like something CC2652 based

last ruin
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Can I then use ZHA and deCONZ simultaneously?

sour shadow
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With two different coordinators, on different channels with different panId values, yes

austere patio
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You can use ZHA (after shutting down deCONZ), you'll just have to reboot your devices to get ZHA to pick them up

last ruin
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I reckon it's not a good idea long term since they will have two different meshes and certainly some interference?

austere patio
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Z2M will overwrite the network settings on first boot

last ruin
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Hmm... thanks... I'm a bit fed up with the deCONZ gui. I don't like UI's not working on all devices (like phones). Also, my TREDANSEN blinds aren't stable withe deCONZ and they won't update OTA to newest firmware.

austere patio
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The integration won't affect device stability, that's between the stick and the rest of your devices. All it does is control how devices are shown to you in HA.

opaque pike
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Anyone know why i have some older Hue Lights that run a different firmware version than some newer (of the same light) ? They show up in Z2M with the same model number

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and yes i tried to check for firmware on them

mellow geode
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What's the Zigbee model number and firmware versions?

opaque pike
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8718696170625 20210331 1.88.1

mellow geode
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8718696170625 is the model number that Z2M uses. The "Zigbee Model Number" is a different one between the lights

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1.88.1 is the newest firmware for the older non-Bluetooth lights. 1.93.7 is the newest firmware for the lights that also support Bluetooth (and do proper attribute reporting, are Zigbee 3.0 and Silabs-based)

opaque pike
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1744630P7 and 1744630P7

mellow geode
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That's indeed the Zigbee model number. It should be a different one but it's possible Hue did something silly again

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Does Z2M tell you which image type it checks for when requesting an OTA upgrade?

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And/or does Z2M have some more information regarding which profile (ZHA vs ZLL) the light uses?

opaque pike
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debug 2022-06-07 16:58:04Received Zigbee message from 'Hue Fuzo outdoor wall light 1', type 'commandQueryNextImageRequest', cluster 'genOta', data '{"fieldControl":0,"fileVersion":16785152,"imageType":270,"manufacturerCode":4107}' from endpoint 11 with groupID null
debug 2022-06-07 16:58:04Device 'Hue Fuzo outdoor wall light 1' requested OTA
debug 2022-06-07 16:58:06Received Zigbee message from 'Hue Fuzo outdoor wall light 4', type 'commandQueryNextImageRequest', cluster 'genOta', data '{"fieldControl":0,"fileVersion":16785152,"imageType":285,"manufacturerCode":4107}' from endpoint 11 with groupID null
debug 2022-06-07 16:58:06Device 'Hue Fuzo outdoor wall light 4' requested OTA

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seems they are looking for the same firmware file

mellow geode
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270 vs 285

opaque pike
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wait no the imagetype is different

mellow geode
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yeah

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285 is the Silabs based one that's newer (and supports Bluetooth)

stray wolf
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looks like adaprox made a kickstarter for a zigbee version of the fingerbot. awesomeness.

opaque pike
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goddamn it makes me mad that they release different products under the same product name/number

sour shadow
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If you buy Tuya it's even worse

mellow geode
last ruin
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Hmm... ZHA restarts when HA restarts? But zigbee2mqtt and deCONZ does not?

sour shadow
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Yes

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ZHA is part of HA, the others aren't

last ruin
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And compared to zwavejs, that's not part of HA either? Since that also stays alive during restart of HA.

sour shadow
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Yes, anything that's an add-on is outside of HA

last ruin
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Don't like the sound of that. I guess that pretty much tips the scale over on zigbee2mqtt for me.

sour shadow
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Don't like that it's outside of HA and stays running when you restart HA?

mellow geode
last ruin
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No, I meant that I like that it's outside so it keeps running

mellow geode
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Yeah, but automations are probably still done in HA

last ruin
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Because I tinker(er) a lot and restarts a lot. Bad WAF if motion sensor is not up and running so lights don't go on when wife enters bathroom.

mellow geode
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I think you'll also have that issue with Z2M

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Like, if you setup the automations in Home Assistant and HA is restarting (and not connected to Z2M), it won't turn on the lights

sour shadow
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Yeah, if HA is down, no automations are running

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You do gain a quicker startup with everything available, but that's about it

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You'd probably be better off with a test HA install to tinker with

mellow geode
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Yeah, I'd probably try both ZHA and Z2M (if you can)

sour shadow
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deCONZ is for when you've decided you need more suffering 😛

last ruin
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The quicker startup is what I'm talking about. If I restart the deCONZ addon it takes quite some time for every node to be alive again.

final pivot
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It's good to setup easier automations via deconz (hue essentials) if you can ie on and off , no need to do that via ha. If you don't have too, that way if ha. Is rebooting the lights still work

last ruin
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Is zigbee2mqtt just as active as zha? I'd hate to migrate to zigbee2mqtt only to need to migrate to zha in a year because that's where all the magic is at.

sour shadow
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Yes

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More so in some regards as there's more people creating device support

last ruin
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But the addon isn't as simple as zwavejs with zwavejs2mqtt I understand? You have to have a separate mqtt?

sour shadow
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Sure, because it uses MQTT

last ruin
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I thought zwavejs2mqtt did that too (because of the name?)?

sour shadow
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No, it can but it defaults to using websockets

last ruin
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Oh.

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If I do go for zigbee2mqtt and a spearate mqtt broker, any point in running zwavejs2mqtt through that mqtt broker?

sour shadow
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No, don't

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ZWave should say on sockets

last ruin
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🙂 Thanks a bunch.

sour shadow
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Unless you want to cause yourself more pain?

last ruin
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haha

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I'm looking forward to the pain of repairing 60 devices

sour shadow
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CC2652 > anything else

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Best is likely one from Tube if you're in North America

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(and if you're not, it still is)

last ruin
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Thanks. Will check out shipping.

molten linden
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faster international shipping is available but expensive.

last ruin
molten linden
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I can't do that - sorry

wooden pike
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hey, I just bought an aqara h1 (ws-euk03) and would like to use it in decoupled mode so that i can do different stuff with it. I am using zha and I can't find a build in solution to do so as it only shows up as a light and some sensors... Does anyone have experience with this product or even a working zha-quirk because I don't really know how to write one... 😅

opaque pike
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I am having some problems with a Hue Wall Switch module (RDM001) i want to change it from single rocker mode to dual push button mode and in the latest Z2M it seems that it is finally possible. However now the module is not reporting left or right toggle/push in the log but instead it just gives the same message whatever i push

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debug 2022-06-07 19:26:25Received Zigbee message from '0x001788010b0295cf', type 'commandToggle', cluster 'genOnOff', data '{}' from endpoint 1 with groupID 21651

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any idea how to fix this?

mighty river
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is there a way to test whether a sonoff zigbee 3.0 stick is working at all? I can see the device but any attempt to make use of it via zha or zigbee2mqtt fails.

primal blade
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I have z2m setup (as HA addon) and mqtt server mqtt://home-assistant:1883 From the z2m frontend I can toggle my zigbee switch and it works, so I assume the mqtt setting is working properly. When I try mosquitto_sub -h home-assistant -t +/# -v -u <my_user> -P <my_pass> nothing shows up even when the switch gets toggled. What am I missing?

faint zephyr
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Tuesday, May 24 has it been shipped stil in the USA 😄

mental hedge
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Hi, I'm using z2m (sonoff 3) and have a hue bulb that does not want to re-pair after being removed manually.
I'm trying to do this through unscrewing the bulb for roughly 60 seconds.
Is there another way to do this without a hue bridge?

timber ravine
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Hi all, zigbee looks like an excellent choice. Seems the sonoff zbbridge should do. Are people using more than one of those in their home for coverage (our whole home and yard is roughly 4,000sq feet)? My understanding is these zigbee devices will be more stable than esphome / tasmoto on 2.4/5g wifi only for smart plugs and switches.

mental hedge
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Especially with a larger area Zigbee is superior to wifi, and especially with a larger amount of devices.
A notable exception however is devices which transfer a lot of data like camera's.
Note you should make sure to make sure to have enough devices which act like routers (like smart plugs), these spread the mesh and therefore the coverage of your zigbee network.
I personally have no experience with multiple sonoff bridges, maybe others do. (120m2 across two floors, one of which is 40m2 and one is 80m2, along with a few devices in the garden up to 15 meters away from the house)

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looks like 4000 sq feet is roughly the same size of my house (google says it's some 376 square meters, my house+front&back yard is 420 square meters)

sour shadow
obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '~pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
timber ravine
twilit narwhal
deep vessel
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Hey all, I'm trying to get Aqara temp sensors to pair with Conbee II / zigbee2mqtt.

I have z2m running on my iMac, it is connecting to my Conbee II, I have my MQTT server up, the z2m startup messages are visible on my network, pairing mode is on...

but when I hold the pairing button on my Aqara temp sensors, nothing happens. Anyone have any ideas? This is my first attempt to pair something to a DIY zigbee coordinator

raven jewel
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How far away is the sensor from the co-ordinator?

deep vessel
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2 feet

raven jewel
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And how are you pairing the Aqara device? Most of them need you to press and hold the button for ~10 seconds. But some of them need you to keep pressing the button once a second after that. Make sure it's not still paired to an Aqara/Xiaomi hub either.

deep vessel
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I have tried holding it for 5 seconds, I have tried the method you just described, and there is no Aqara/Xiomi hub in the house. There is a Phillips hub

deep vessel
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it's doing the one flash (fail) as shown in the video above

lethal veldt
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Is there a way to manage an Aqara Hub (an old one) without Mi Home (or a way to re-add it to Mi Home without resetting). I still have the Hub attached to HA but it's no longer attached to the Mi Home app and I wanted to avoid resetting it to re-pair a device

bronze prism
quartz flume
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Guys, i can't solve my problem in my zigbee network, it stop working after a coulple days, some time faster than that, right now is all down, and i can't see to understand why.

It's a z2m, could anyone help me at least see the logs for some clue?

quartz flume
quartz flume
quartz flume
quartz flume
sour shadow
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If you say CC253x then that's the problem

quartz flume
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cc2532

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But it worked util i had the sd card of homeassitant bricked, and reinstalled it in a new one

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Worked for 6+ months

sour shadow
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The CC253x chips are known to be pretty crap

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What you're describing is normal behaviour

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Buy a CC2652 based coordinator

quartz flume
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Tried with another one same chip same behaiviour this one is new

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Ok, let me check the chip, one sec

sour shadow
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Yup, the CC253x are crap

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They do this, once you get past a dozen or so devices, or just get a busy mesh, they'll lock up without warning

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Fine as routers, not as coordinators

quartz flume
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its cc2652

sour shadow
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That shouldn't lock up,those are generally fine

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Though, the Sonoff ones have had a number of reports of issues

quartz flume
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Yes, i have 3 of those, tried with 2

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It is not a sonoff one

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And it worked flawlessly util i had to reinstall homeassistant

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Can't it be some configuration, or memory, or something else i misconfigured ?

mighty river
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Is it possible to solve the problem regarding Zigbee and Tasmota?
At the moment, I'm dealing with Tasmota that Zigbee can do% zbdevice% via MQTT, but he can't "% zbname%" Has anyone solved it yet?

woeful urchin
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But, I am running Zigbee (via Z2M) as well as Tasmota on some smart plugs.

molten linden
uneven dew
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with ZHA is there anyway or me to get my extended pan id and network key?

austere patio
uneven dew
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the sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle

austere patio
uneven dew
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so i have enabled debug per the docs

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but the network key is still showing up as redacted. also for some reason the pan id changed after the restart.. .is that normal?

austere patio
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Redacted?

uneven dew
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oh i see

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its in the stdout logs but not in the dig that is downloaded.

mellow geode
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How did you originally download the file (where it was censored)? (VS Code/File editor plugin?)

uneven dew
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i clicked on the download diag from the ZHA integration

mellow geode
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Ah, I see

graceful elm
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Are the Ikea roller blinds the best zigbee option as this point?

molten linden
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ThirdReality has some now too. I have them in the boxes still but reviews have been decent.

tropic depot
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Whoa look who it is

sterile sleet
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a hue remote fell of my mesh today,
I'm trying to pair it again and it does so successfully

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but I don't get state changes and battery is also not reported (in z2m even)

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is this a z2m thing?

cyan ice
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Hey Fellas!

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Zigbee question: Will a powered zigbee device from one company still act as a mesh point for battery devices from another company?

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does it just catch the signals and send them back out without being attached the other devices (outside of HA).

sterile sleet
sterile sleet
cyan ice
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thanks

molten linden
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They all have to be part of the same mesh though

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So a hue bulb attached to a hue hub won’t repeat for a device on z2m or zha

cyan ice
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certainly. They'll both be paired to HA.

coral plaza
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Sorry for the wall, I’m trying to condense my thoughts down, so I don’t ask 300 separate questions. I previously had this question nicely formatted, but the bot doesn’t like that. I've always been told to put the goal first, and then the question, to make sure im asking the right questions. I’ve already done a lot of reading, including the FAQ and the pinned posts, subreddit, and lots of personal research.

Hub: I’m thinking a Home Assistant on a RPI with the Sonoff Zigbee Radio 3.0 (already ordered). In the future, I might add Z-wave since I have a bad habit of infinite tinkering. I only have a basic understanding of communication protocols (read barely any), and I’m thinking ZHA instead of Zigbee2MQTT, mainly because ZHA seems easier to implement.

First build to get my feet wet: I want to add CW/WW LEDS, controlled by motion and light level sensors. Intention is during the day the LEDs are CW, and turn on quickly, but when light levels are low, it slowly turns on, and is a warm white (2300k-2700kish to match the dim to warm lights i have). Thinking a unit like this off Ali would work as control (i already have 24v power in the area): https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001320750589.html but I’m always looking for advice on better/more reliable units. Unit needs to be able to operate off 24v power, and connect to a Zigbee controller, but hub would obly be 10' away, so connection strength should be high.

Question: I’ve been warned that the SONOFF PIR motion sensors are not great. Is there a recommended unit, which has both light level and PIR motion? If not, would the Ikea motion sensor be appropriate, and is there a recomended light level sensor to pair with it?

nova flint
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It's a bit pricey, but I've found the Philips Hue Motion Sensor to work excellently for me, it's got both light and motion sensing, as well as configurable motion timeout and very passable battery life.

mellow geode
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Can confirm that the Hue motion sensors are really nice. The new Aqara P1 sensors should also work fine in the future (lux isn't working correctly with ZHA atm)

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The Sonoff sensors don't report any light level and are generally slow.

Also, the old Aqara motion sensors should also work(?)

nova flint
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Though I'm running mine off Z2M, so I can't really speak for ZHA.

mellow geode
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Running my Hue sensors with ZHA and they work fine here

sterile sleet
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+1 for hue sensors, you also get temperature (albeit not very exact) and my batteries last >5 years
(used zha before, now z2m)

nova flint
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@sterile sleet A few years was my experience before I cranked the timeout down to a few seconds 😄 After that.. A few months

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Just got to find that nice middle ground you're happy with.

sterile sleet
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I never had to fiddle with that

coral plaza
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sweet, ill grab a Philips Hue PIR sensor or a Aquara P1, either looks pretty good (if the P1 gets updated to be better with light levels)

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Any recommendations of a LED controller? something "downstream" of the transformer, since i already have one from Ikea for my indrawer lighting.

coral plaza
mellow geode
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The sensors sent out really high light level values when in complete darkness. ZHA implemented a fix to somewhat ignore these values with this PR: https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/1587

However, that PR also broke the light level entity when pairing new sensors. The fix shouldn't be too difficult.

When removing that tweak and adding it back later, the P1 reports light level like this: https://i.imgur.com/fXo8F5f.png (every time there's motion and otherwise roughly every hour or so)

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The Hue motion sensors reports light level on its own much more often: https://i.imgur.com/HvuemgZ.png but that probably doesn't matter for your use-case? (As on motion should be enough?)

coral plaza
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i do want light levels, to control whether i get "quick, bright, and cool" or "slow, dim, and warm" (ie, if im watching a movie next door, i get a low light level, but if my lights are on and im cooking, i get a bright cool light)

Sounds like the hue might be worth the extra $$

mellow geode
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I guess you can always grab one of each for testing lol

coral plaza
molten linden
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The P1 light sensor should work on next ha release. Not sure if there is a pr for the fix yet but it was tiny. https://imgur.com/a/xAz0sGn

coral plaza
sleek sedge
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anyone here run a kwikset/weiser touchscreen lock and using Z2M. im thinking of buying one. just wondering if it supports setting pin codes. As the Z2m page states that that the 9ged18000(physical buttons) does but, does not list pin code support for the newer model 9ged21500(touchscreen). was hoping is was just a typo/oversight.

primal blade
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I have a tradfri zigbee 5 button remote I am trying to automate using a blueprint. I can get only one button working, when I check the trace it seems that the variable is a little bit different than what the blueprint is expecting, and also different than what I saw in dev tools -> event monitor. Is view trace -> step details -> changed variables where I should be looking to debug this?

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using ZHA btw.

hybrid cloud
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can someone tell me more

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cause i had heard sonoffs things were ok before, but thats not my experience 😅

coral plaza
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You have had bad luck with them?

hybrid cloud
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becoming unresponsive at random times and for random lengths

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sometimes 12 hours, sometimes a few min or so, sometimes multiple times a day, sometimes just once, and sometimes not for 2 weeks

coral plaza
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Ouch, that's pretty severe

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Is it just the sensors? Or what are you using?

hybrid cloud
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have one contact sensor and one motion sensor

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contact sensor is what ive had the biggest issue with, but its in my kitchen so any issues become apparent pretty quickly

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plan on replacing it for obvious reasons

coral plaza
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What, you don't like random extended down times?

hybrid cloud
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Lol

wooden escarp
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Hi, I'm looking for some direction on the best place to get help with a zigbee door/window sensor and zha. I have zha working well on hassos on NUC using Conbee II. Latest Conbee II firmware (loaded yesterday) allowed my previously difficult sensor to now pair in ZHA. The sensor is a TS0203 (or CG205 on the box) TUYA ZB3 Smart Door Sensor. Comes up in ZHA as TS0203, manufacturer "_TYZB01_xph99wvr". Passes Interview, Configuring and Initialising. Comes up in ZHA with "ias_zone" as 'Closed'. Does not respond to door open or close. Does nothing.
THIS is where it gets interesting...
If I remove the device, open a separate browser window for ZHA devices, and start pairing again, I can get the device to work perfectly DURING the pairing, even updating the "ias_zone" to 'Open' and 'Closed' several times! The LED on the device lights when the magnet is removed or replaced back again; perfect! Then it freezes as either Open or Closed when paring is completed and stops at that point. No light on the sensor works after that. Frustrating as I have seen it work successfully DURING the paring process.

Where is the best place to discuss this type of issue.

sour shadow
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This is the right channel

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But, Tuya... tuya is junk

wooden escarp
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@sour shadow That I do agree with. I've got some new generation Aqara (MCCGQ14LM) ones on order. Should be much better. However I thought I'd try these Tuya ones after the firmware update for Conbee II and the latest ZHA. Looks like we're working well if I can find where during the pairing process it locks up the device.

sour shadow
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Oh, and the ConBee really needs to be on a USB extension cable, far away from USB 3.0 ports

wooden escarp
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Yep, done that. That's Zigbee 101 right there!

sour shadow
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And yet too many people don't 😉

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Also, too many people buy a ConBee 😛

wooden escarp
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RTFM

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So if not a Conbee then you'd recommend...?

obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '~pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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The ConBee seems to be one of the ones that are:

  1. More temperamental
  2. More sensitive to interference
ocean cloak
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On the Z2M map it says "Link quality is between 0 - 255 (higher is better), values with / represents multiple types of links".
What does it mean exactly by multiple types of links? What different types are there?

uneven ruin
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I've wanted to ask that a few times and never typed it in, would be interested as well

sterile sleet
ocean cloak
sterile sleet
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suppose a router-router link is type1
then a router-client link is type 2

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router connect to other routers (mesh) and also to the coordinator if possible or end devices, so you have multiple link strengths and values -> types

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no guarantee on any of that though, thats just what I read

austere patio
ocean cloak
ocean cloak
sterile sleet
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it doesnt make sense for me then because the values differ greatly ?

coral plaza
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Last item i want to find is a quality 24v LED CCT (well, Warm White and Cool White) Zigbee controller, something like this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004207645875.html

Something i feed 24v power into, and it allows smooth dimming so i can adjust brightness accordingly between warm white and cool white.

any recommendations?

mellow geode
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Gledopto Pro is somewhat acceptable

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Illuminize universal controllers (white-label Sunricher) are also pretty nice. Not sure if you can get them in your country though

coral plaza
sleek sedge
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Does anyone here run a kwikset/weiser touchscreen lock and using Z2M. im thinking of buying one. just wondering if it supports setting pin codes. As the Z2m page states that that the 9ged18000(physical buttons) does but, does not list pin code support for the newer model 9ged21500(touchscreen). was hoping is was just a typo/oversight.

coral plaza
mellow geode
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No clue

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Just don’t buy non-Pro GLEDOPTO controllers

sleek sedge
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Is anyone using Zigbee locks in Z2M?

languid geode
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Yiss. The ZigBee network is coming along. After much hassle, I got an IKEA sound knob working to control some lights. WAF should improve.

sleek sedge
winged granite
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does anyone knows how to hard reset my ikea stuff? there is no red light any more. when i try to pair

coral plaza
winged granite
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for example the ikea motion sensor

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to reset and pair again i should push the middle button 4 times in 5 seconds. normally i should see a red light while its trying to pair. now, its like dead, no pairing, no red light, nothing

coral plaza
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are you sure there is no chance of dead battieries?

coral plaza
mellow geode
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Yep, make sure to get the GL-C-006P for CC/CW

coral plaza
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yea... Still almoast $40 a controller (and i need 2)! + $70 for two sensors, and $35 for the tape

coral plaza
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GL-C-008P

mellow geode
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Well, you'd also get RGB control in Home Assistant (which you probably don't want)

coral plaza
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yea, but just program Home Assistant to only use the WW/CW pins. Plan is to leave it automated.

mellow geode
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Sure, then that would also work

quartz cipher
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Do anyone know much about zigbee and network routing? In other words I believe you're supposed to sync / add new devices to a zigbee network from where they are going to permanently reside. I never did that and I don't have any response/signal issues from realtime usage where they now reside. But when I look at the zha map (which I don't. Entirely understand in itsself with what lines\colors\numbers mean etc). I feel like it could probably be better // more logical. Do devices not reroute them selves intelligently automatically? And if not is there a way to basically force them to attempt to do so?

restive tartan
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Not all devices chance connection once established. Aqara sensors fir example are known to just connect to the first one they find and never change it

quartz cipher
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Thanks Mike. Do you know much about backups and data redundency around ZigBee? Its my understanding that ZWave and Zigbee coordinators (USB sticks\hubs) actually store\keep all the devices information\connections on the stick. So god forbid those sticks die or something. Is there backup procedures to prepare for disaster scenarios?

mellow geode
hardy crane
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@quartz cipher it generally is better to pair devices at their end location as that moment of pairing it will pick the best route (so for those that are not able to move themselves as needed it does make a difference). Then depending on what you use you can sometimes try forcing it e.g. in Z2M you can enable pairing through a specific router only instead of whole network

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Also for you other question in #general-archived that I saw, basically does entirely depend on the integration. If it's ZHA if you can remove the device from the list then that should be fine (as in it shouldn't come back), if you're using deCONZ or Z2M the integrations for those only relay the message they get from either addon (or container) so there it's those places you need to remove them from rather than the integration itself (both phoscon or Z2M have delete buttons in their GUI).

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Essentially ZHA is the exception since it' s built into HA itself

quartz cipher
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Thank you

mighty river
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Anyojne used this before?

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Looks like a plausible device

glacial robin
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I am having trouble getting ZHA to work - it can find my devices but it says "The device is disabled by Config entry."

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in config I have:

zha:
  database_path: zigbee.db```
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also getting this:

Logger: homeassistant.config_entries
Source: config_entries.py:370
First occurred: 2:57:24 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 2:57:24 PM

Config entry 'ZHA' for zha integration not ready yet; Retrying in background
orchid galleon
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Anyone know how to get the network key from an existing Zigbee2Mqtt instance?

glacial robin
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I think I figured out my problem - I switch USBs on my NUC and it works but soon as I uninstall ZHA and try and reinstall it on a USB port I've already used in the past for ZHA it doesnt work. I've now used all the ports so I am stuck. Is there a way to remove the information of what port its used?

midnight robin
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Hey man. Just got the FP1, same thing. 2 minutes to detect away, I don’t see how people are getting sub 30s non-detection. Did you fix this?

Is there a setting somewhere that should be edited?

untold obsidian
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You got an FP1 ??? How ? Wherever I search...only from Chines website it seems to be able to order but not for Europe

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then again... if it is 2 minutes then this is not good at all for a presence detector

midnight robin
midnight robin
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There’s a list of official countries they support directly without the use of a 3rd party forwarding service but if you’re not in there then it’s a little trickier

languid geode
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Anyone know if Z2M has a workaround for the battery drain in IKEA remotes?

ZHA drained em real good overnight and I can't seem to find a whole lot about if Z2M has this or not.

mellow geode
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What coordinator are you using?

languid geode
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The sonoff 3.0 USB guy

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I did see some stuff about maybe needing to upgrade the firmware on it, but haven't needed to try that yet

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Yeah, reddit seems to think a switch to z2m and upgrading the firmware should do the trick. Guess that's on the weekend project list! Wife loved the light knob, but it was dead come morning haha

mellow geode
languid geode
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Oh, yep that's the exact one

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That'll teach me to read chip codes and such more carefully now that I know they made more than one haha

mellow geode
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Mhm, I never experienced the IKEA remote drain bug (I'm basically using the same/similar chip for my coordinator and ZHA)

languid geode
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Hmm. Yeah most of the stuff I've seen isn't recent, so was hoping it had gotten a fix at some point. Not for me though, so I'll do some messing around with firmware and such and see if that helps.

mellow geode
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Yeah, I'd try to (1) backup, (2) flash the latest firmware, (3) restore the stick backup and then (4) pair all remotes again

austere patio
last ruin
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Is Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 usb dongle good for ZHA and zigbee2mqtt?

sour shadow
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There are some documented build quality issues, but they seem relatively uncommon

cosmic jacinth
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There any decent EFR32 based sticks available again?

last ruin
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Thanks

molten linden
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Top one will be Ethernet optional for a usb only solution.

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Same module that will be in the yellow. Will eventually support zigbee and thread concurrently too!

long bear
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Is the Sonoff Zigbee hub any good? Or is there a more prefered hub?

teal marlin
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Anyone been having issues with the Aqara p1 interval defaulting to 30? I keep changing it but it keeps changing back to 30. Edit: solution was to hit the physical button on the back of the unit while adjusting the interval in HA. It stayed after about 3 attempts

restive tartan
royal hollow
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So after a restart all of my devices/entities from Z2M are showing up as unavailable in home assistant, though they still work directly from Z2M

wooden escarp
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@molten linden I'd be up for one of the EFR32 with LAN as soon as they are ready. Can I put in a pre-order (Can't order from website as 'out of stock' currently)

teal marlin
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Am I asking for trouble using ZHA for my main functions and deconz only to update my Conbee ii?

lusty yew
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Hmm, I think I came up with a way to detect interference. Place a couple beacon devices around and have them send out a blip every 200ms or so, make it a switch flipping or something. Just something to generate traffic. If more than X messages are missed in a row generate an event.

austere patio
teal marlin
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Alright. I massively screwed up my zigbee network with my conbee ii. Seemed like everywhere I turned I was creating more issues sooo I just flashed my micro SD and I’m starting fresh and now when attempting to run ZHA it says “failed to probe usb” and I’m losing it lol

split sorrel
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not sure if this is the place to ask, so apologies in advance. I've recently set up a zigbee usb on my home assistant docker and in process of migrating devices to home assistant directly. one device I'm having trouble is with Mercator ikuu GU10 Zigbee bulb (https://www.ikuu.com.au/product/gu10-globe-cct-2/)
specifically, trying to put them back in pairing mode. instructions say to turn them off/on 3 time in quick succession but they're still paired to my old system and not flashing (to indicate they're in pairing mode)

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anyone have this device and have an idea what I'm missing?

restive tartan
restive tartan
# split sorrel anyone have this device and have an idea what I'm missing?

Maybe try first to kick them out of the old network, and then try to pair it again. Instruction mentions a pairing mode, but generally you want to have a reset mode when changing network. Some brands have the same procedure for pairing and reset. I'm unsure if that's the case of your bulb, but if it doesn't flash it might be different

split sorrel
teal marlin
restive tartan
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A quick Google says people are able to reser it through deconz. But my knowledge is limited on this

restive tartan
split sorrel
split sorrel
final pawn
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Why some of my Sonoff SNZB-02 temeperature sensors does not actualice the temperatute after some time of working? Those are conected via Zigebee2Mqtt

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#sonoff Why some of my Sonoff SNZB-02 temeperature sensors does not actualice the temperatute after some time of working? Those are conected via Zigebee2Mqtt

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#node-red-archived somebody has problems with no-red. I receive the message 502: Bad Gateway, since some days...

untold obsidian
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I have only one SNZB-02's since Sept. last year and this actualizes nicely...the temp is slightly off though but that I compensated with a template sensor.

teal marlin
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My conbee ii is intermittently showing in HA but doesn’t seem to be showing long enough to solidify a connection. Leads me to believe that this is interference and would be solved by a usb 2.0 extension?

austere patio
teal marlin
fair mountain
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like kernel message is showing the USB device connecting/disconnectinG?

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a USB extension will fix interference, not a malfunctioning device.

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is it possible you are not providing enough power to your RPi ?

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try a different power supply, but you should have your Conbee II on an extension anyway.

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@teal marlin ^

teal marlin
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No, no kernel message. When I go to integrate with ZHA all the relevant info is displayed but then it fails.
I’m using the PSU that was included with my RBPI. Gonna try an extension and then Get it exchanged

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@fair mountain

fair mountain
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@teal marlin "included"? .. like, an official one?

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Because i've had "included" CanaKit PSU's stop delivering the required voltage when the power draw goes up.

austere patio
teal marlin
teal marlin
austere patio
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The kernel log. I'm not very familiar with the OS so I'm not sure if it's displayed elsewhere. Have you ever updated the firmware on it?

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The Conbee manages its own USB interface so if it's glitching out somehow it will connect and disconnect over and over. Supposedly upgrading the firmware helps.

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But if you're not using an extension cable, you definitely should. The Conbee behaves very bizarrely without one.

fair mountain
fair mountain
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and firmware updates help, but dont fix all the issues

teal marlin
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Deconz **

fair mountain
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my Conbee's have been relegated to a drawer collecting dust, replaced by a $15 Zigbee 3.0 ..

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deconz will just stop working

austere patio
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Do you happen to have deCONZ concurrently running with ZHA?

teal marlin
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Thank you all. I’ve got some things to try now. @austere patio @fair mountain

austere patio
teal marlin
finite osprey
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Is there any way to stop a Metering Outlet (Jasco 43132) from flooding the mesh with constant updates? I get an update at least every 5 seconds. I tried modifying a number of clusters (all the ones with period in the name) but the values do not seem to stick and/or do anything. I also cannot find how to change the change threshold so a 0.1 change doesn't trigger a report

fierce remnant
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hey guys, zha or zigbee2mqtt? I'm now on ZHA / Z-stack with ~70 devices on a TI launchpad. Did a radio scan and it seems that the default channel 15 is pretty congested - so I'm probably moving to a nearly empty channel 20 next weekend. Since it's ZNP, no dynamic channel switching for me - i need to tear everything down, so I may as well change out the controller's firmware. Help me decide whether to stay on ZHA or switch to Z2M (I already have MQTT / Node-Red workflows set up).

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,;)

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maybe Z2M is snappier overall? easier to diagnose?

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I'm doing all that because some of my devices drop out / are sometimes slow to respond, and it's a hodgepodge of everything from ikea through tuya and aqara devices - and maximum stability / snappiness is what I'm after

austere patio
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What does your energy scan result look like?

wet oasis
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Complete and total noob to HA. But I do have a technical background.

I have HA setup with the Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus. I have removed from Philips Hue bulbs from the Hue App. These were immediately detected by Zigbee2MQTT. And I can turn them off and on just fine.

What I am now wanting to do is emulate the different Philips Hue Scenes (Concentrate, Nightlight, etc) inside HA without using the Hue Bridge and Hue App.

Has anyone done this successfully? Any tips or walkthroughs?

sour shadow
obsidian sandalBOT
fierce remnant
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@austere patio ^

austere patio
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Do you have any WiFi networks nearby on nonstandard channels (i.e. not on 2.4GHz WiFi channels 1, 6, or 11)?

fierce remnant
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major metropolitan residential area

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it's pretty dense.

austere patio
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Any that you control?

fierce remnant
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I have a unifi setup with 3 APs on channels 12 and 36

austere patio
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Looks like there's a network on channel 3, but it's not yours so not much you can do about it

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How many of your 70 devices are routers?

coral plaza
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Anyone play with "inline ZigBee dimmers" or switches, the little ones that go in a gang box to retrofit the box?

fierce remnant
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I also have two repeaters

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so technically there's a lot of routers

austere patio
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There is a way to request them to change channels along with the coordinator if you want to try it out

fierce remnant
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I'd love to

austere patio
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But it's not exactly well tested and may lead you to a situation where you will have to re-join everything

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Which I guess is what you'll have to do anyways if you want to move to 20

fierce remnant
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I will have to rejoin everything anyway

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I found one way to change channel using zha-toolkit

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but it seems that it's not supported on Z-stack