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prime dove
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where is the file located in hass.io?

sour shadow
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Assuming you mean Home Assistant OS, you'd need to create a custom component version of ZHA

obsidian sandalBOT
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Hass.io was the old name for the appliance like install option, that uses Docker. It was renamed in January 2020 and is now called Home Assistant OS.

Command '~hassio' was invoked by: Tinkerer
prime dove
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oh ok... "Home Assistant OS"

sour shadow
prime dove
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better naming, because "hass" in german is "hate" 😉 .. but at the moment I hate the Home Assistant OS, due to broken ZHA since over 1 Week

sour shadow
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That's why it was renamed all the way back then

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The other, simpler, option is to roll back HA

prime dove
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I have tryed that, but it never worked for me

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I should be something like "ha core update --version=2022.2.8"

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is the supervisor dongrade too?

sour shadow
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Almost

prime dove
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Ok

wispy mortar
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can I somehow figure out what are the two nulls marked with warning signs on the right when I pair a device through zha?

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ah ok, I can click on them. what is basic_lqi and basic_rssi?

sour shadow
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LQI is the Link Quality Indicator a score of 0 (no signal) to 254 (perfect), with 255 meaning either perfect or no idea. Different chipsets and manufacturers calculate it differently

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RSSI is the signal strength

prime dove
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Downgrade the HA to core-2022.2.3 fix my zigbee ZHA trouble

echo loom
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I'm wanting to replace my old ESPHOME RGBW H801 controllers with some Zigbee controllers. My current strips are connected via those clip on solderless connectors that go to wires that I've connected to the H801. I really hate the look.

The zigbee controller has a female connector output. How can I connect this to the strip? Can I use those solderless connectors that join two RGB strips and just put some pin headers on it to connect to the female end?

vestal atlas
echo loom
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@vestal atlas what

vestal atlas
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sorry, long day at work. Thought it was fitting 😅

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your solution sounds fine, just make sure the pinout is correct

nimble turret
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Just purchased and am trying to setup my conbee II stick running hassos on a pi4 have an extension cable and wanting to setup through z2m getting and error in the z2m logs after the node index.ha error while starting zigbee herdsman #failed to start any advice

obsidian sandalBOT
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Please don't say I have an error or describe an error. Share the whole actual error message so we can help you.

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autumn eagle
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I updated my container-based HA then rebooted and lost my Z-wave & Zigbee connection. Someone helped me in #zwave-archived so I got that back by changing the path on the ZwaveJS config but I can't get Zigbee to load/connect. Any ideas?

sour shadow
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What Zigbee integration are you using?

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What Zigbee stick are you using?

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What's the error in the log?

autumn eagle
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ZHA, using Nortek Z-wave/Zigbee and it worked great before. Error: Retrying setup: [Errno 2] could not open port /dev/ttyUSB1: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/ttyUSB1'

sour shadow
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Ok, well, that's simple then ... same fix as in #zwave-archived - update the path

autumn eagle
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Great, how to do that?

sour shadow
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First off, are you running HA in Docker?

autumn eagle
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Yes, I am

sour shadow
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Then the simplest is to update the container config to map the /dev/serial/by-id/ path to /dev/ttyUSB1 in the container

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Then stop and rebuild the container

autumn eagle
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the HA container? Sorry, I've been learning Docker but am still newb

sour shadow
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If you're using the Docker command line, now is a really good time to embrace the goodness of Compose files

autumn eagle
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yes, you gave me that tip yesterday and that is my lesson planned for today

sour shadow
autumn eagle
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someone recommended i use STACKS in my Portainer

sour shadow
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Portainer nauseated

autumn eagle
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haha okay

sour shadow
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Portainer is fine, if you don't mind having to work around the broken bits

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Of course, you could just learn Docker and save yourself the pain

autumn eagle
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Okay, I will learn compose files today. Sounds like it would be more stable, predictable

sour shadow
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And easier to update

autumn eagle
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Is there anyway to get a running HA to create a compose file for me?

sour shadow
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HA doesn't care about Compose

autumn eagle
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oooh!

sour shadow
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It'll give you a rough Compose file

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Of course, the HA docs have an example one for you

autumn eagle
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Composerize is what I was hoping for

sour shadow
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Have you sorted out backups yet?

autumn eagle
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Ummmmm

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I got stuck on that yesterday and took a chance and moved on to update

sour shadow
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Well, if you keep putting it off, you're going to find out the hard way that it's too late

autumn eagle
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I know!!

sour shadow
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Apparently you don't 😉

autumn eagle
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My issue is I don't know how to mount a USB stick to write backups to. Got stuck trying that

sour shadow
autumn eagle
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Maybe I should try the cloud backups?

sour shadow
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sudo mount /path/to/device /path/to/location

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Cloud is probably easier then

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Also... man fstab

autumn eagle
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what does fstab do?

sour shadow
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man fstab

autumn eagle
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okay, reading

sour shadow
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Have a read... you said you wanted to know how to mount a stick...

autumn eagle
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Which app did you say does cloud backups easy?

sour shadow
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rclone is one of many options

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restic is another

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Kopia is another one again

autumn eagle
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On it, thanks

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Do you know why I can't access HA from homeassistant.local but I can if I use IP address?

jolly narwhal
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Two new ZigBee buttons for my collection

sour shadow
sour shadow
jolly python
tropic depot
autumn eagle
sour shadow
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That looks like you didn't read what I said

autumn eagle
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What'd I miss?

sour shadow
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What message did you reply to? Did you read what it said?

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Then the simplest is to update the container config to map the /dev/serial/by-id/ path to /dev/ttyUSB1 in the container

autumn eagle
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I did but I'm dumb and new at this

sour shadow
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New is no excuse for ignoring things ...

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Ask questions, don't just be an idiot

autumn eagle
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I thought the container config is the docker-compose file

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I'm trying! haha

sour shadow
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Right

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And ... the paths matter

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Your USB stick appears as a path under /dev/serial/by-id

autumn eagle
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right, oh so that should be the path I add...

sour shadow
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Map that path to the /dev/ttyUSB1 that HA is expecting

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Not ttyUSB0

autumn eagle
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oh right, lemme try.

sour shadow
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Or, map it to ttyUSB0 and wonder why it's still broken

autumn eagle
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Lemme see if I can make sense of it

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devices: - "/dev/ttyUSB1:/dev/ttyUSB1”

sour shadow
autumn eagle
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or is it /dev/serial/by-id/USB1

sour shadow
autumn eagle
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haha

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sorry

sour shadow
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Dear lord... give me strength

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ls -al /dev/serial/by-id/
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What does that return?

autumn eagle
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total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 Mar 17 06:18 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 80 Mar 17 06:18 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mar 17 06:18 usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_B15001B1-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mar 17 06:18 usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_B15001B1-if01-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB1

sour shadow
autumn eagle
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yay!

sour shadow
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See those bits on the left...?

usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_B15001B1-if01-port0
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That is the path you want

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devices: /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_B15001B1-if01-port0:/dev/ttyUSB1
autumn eagle
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Ahhhhh

sour shadow
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You also want to track down some Linux for Dummies type guide and learn about Linux

autumn eagle
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Definitely

sour shadow
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Your life is going to be a lot easier once you understand the basics of what's going on

autumn eagle
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yeah, I'm just googling and trying things, somehow I got this far

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but I'm learning each day

sour shadow
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What to do is spin up Debian in a VM. Then you can snapshot it and mess about knowing that you can recover anything by reverting to the snapshot.

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That said, modern Linux is pretty good at protecting you from the common errors, so it's pretty hard to really mess things up, even with sudo

autumn eagle
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That's good. Seems like I know just enough to get myself in trouble

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So here's that added to the composerizer output:
\\ version: '3.3'
services:
home-assistant:
volumes:
- '/clark/.config/hass/config:/config'
- '/clark/.config/hass/media:/media'
devices:
- ‘/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_B15001B1-if01-port0:/dev/ttyUSB1’
image: 'ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable'\\

obsidian sandalBOT
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sour shadow
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Your indenting looks suspect - same YAML rules apply here as for in HA - but without the correct markup we can't be sure

autumn eagle
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'''
version: '3.3'
services:
home-assistant:
volumes:
- '/clark/.config/hass/config:/config'
- '/clark/.config/hass/media:/media'
devices:
- ‘/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_B15001B1-if01-port0:/dev/ttyUSB1’
- ‘/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_B15001B1-if01-port0:/dev/ttyUSB1’
image: 'ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable'
'''

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damn, I tried the backticks but it didn't work.

sour shadow
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Then use a code share site

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You can test in #botspam to find the actual backticks key

autumn eagle
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Okay, my compose would be:

version: '3.3'
services:
    home-assistant:
        volumes:
            - '/clark/.config/hass/config:/config'
            - '/clark/.config/hass/media:/media'
        devices:
            - ‘/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_B15001B1-if00-port0:/dev/ttyUSB0’
            - ‘/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_B15001B1-if01-port0:/dev/ttyUSB1’
        image: 'ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable'
sour shadow
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I fixed it in #botspam

autumn eagle
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Thanks, do I need to map both USB0 & USB1?

sour shadow
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No

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You've mapped the Z-Wave half to your Z-Wave JS container already

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Don't map it to HA too

autumn eagle
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got it

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Thank you!

jolly narwhal
jolly narwhal
neon wren
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I'm trying to bind a hue dimmer to a hue bulb in ZHA, going into manage clusters on the dimmer, selecting the bulb as a bindable device, then hitting bind, but nothing is happening. Am I missing something? (RWL021 dimmer to a LWB006 bulb)

sour shadow
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You probably need to wake the dimmer

neon wren
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Don't think its that. I've been messing with the dimmer quite a bit.

I'm pressing the button on the switch both before and after hitting the bind button, but just getting nothing.

Also tried creating a group, putting the light in that (no option to add the switch) then trying to bind the switch to the group. Same thing. Press the button to bind and nothing happens. Even if I have the switch button pressed, pressed just before, or pressed just after.

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Also tried deleting the switch, factory resetting it, and adding it back in.

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There is zero feedback when pressing the bind or bind group buttons in zha.

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Don't know if I'm meant to actually see anything there?

neon wren
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Ok, so more info....

Going into Manage Clusters -> Device Binding, and binding to the bulb and I see:

2022-03-17 18:43:06 INFO (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.api] Devices bound: source_ieee: [00:17:88:01:10:3e:22:48] target_ieee: [00:17:88:01:10:3a:d2:03]

In home-assistant.log. However, the buttons don't do anything.

Setting up a group, and going to Manage Clusters -> Group Binding, selecting the group with the bulb in, then selecting LevelControl and OnOff (also tried various other combinations, but I think those are the two I mainly need) and pressing Bind Group, I see nothing at all in the logs.

fleet lodge
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Does anyone know of a Zigbee RFID Reader? I just need raw RFID reads, no keypad

oblique pivot
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I am currently experimenting with Zigbee2MQTT. I control my HA devices via Homekit on my iPhone. When I control my Zigbee2MQTT lamps via Homekit I have a good 10 second delay. Directly from HA is switched immediately. Do you have any experience with this phenomenon?

orchid elbow
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hi guys, I have connected a zigbee thermostat. For some reason, it is reporting the incorrect temperature.

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if it is 22deg in the room, it shows as 2.2 in Z2M

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is there any way I can change the values?

raven jewel
orchid elbow
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checked the logs... I am seeing this as well, which seems related ...

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Zigbee2MQTT:warn 2022-03-17 21:35:31: zigbee-herdsman-converters:Moes BHT-002: Unrecognized DP #45 with data {"dp":45,"datatype":5,"data":{"type":"Buffer","data":[2]}}

mellow geode
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(For "Device Binding", you select the coordinator, then click unbind. (Then bind to bulb/group))

neon wren
polar helm
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anybody have issues with random shutdown of tuya power plugs this week? TS011F - the last 3 days i've been getting random shut offs out of nowhere without changing anything

jolly narwhal
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No issues here so far

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Testing two

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And @jolly python has one

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We use zigbee2mqtt though

polar helm
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<- ZHA - Conbee II

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wish there was a log i can look at 😄

jolly narwhal
polar helm
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definitely nothing in the regular Hassio log

jolly narwhal
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I don't even run hassio so no idea LeoKek

polar helm
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i like the old name - less SEO terror

austere patio
ancient bane
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I'm having issues with devices disappearing - I had ~18 devices and now I have none. I got a ZigStarGW and reflashed it's FW (thought it'd fix some unrelated wifi issues). Now I can't get any devices to pair I tried going back to my TI CC2531 and I get the same result. I also tried nuking share/zigbee2mqtt.

formal olive
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hi quick question.. I'm currently running tubezb with zha which is working great. However planning to add aqara new camera which will have its own hub? How do I connect it to tubezb?

lilac wharf
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How do you connect what to ZHA?

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The aqara camera hub thing? You can't

echo yarrow
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all my cameras are POE. Not a fan of battery powered cameras.

lilac wharf
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WiFi ones in general

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2.4 GHz at least. 5 GHz ones are better, but I'd still take PoE ones over that any day

formal olive
jolly python
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Camera does not sound like zigbee

jolly python
halcyon nexus
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hi guys! 😄 @sour shadow forwarded me to this channel

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i installed a conbeeII to the homeassistant rpi and try to reach it via my mobile through HueEssentials

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but i do not find the installation as it seems to point to an internal Docker IP

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is there maybe any documentation i missed or i have to take care of

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?

sour shadow
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Well, presumably you're trying to reach deCONZ with HueEssentials?

halcyon nexus
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dam,nit it is a raspbeeII

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not a conbeeII sorry

sour shadow
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Still, I doubt the software is trying to talk directly to it

halcyon nexus
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yeah this phoscon thing that is installed

sour shadow
halcyon nexus
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i tried it automatically

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-.-

lilac wharf
formal olive
jolly narwhal
lilac wharf
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Zigbee doesn't have enough bandwidth for something like a camera unless maybe it was only sending low res stills

jolly narwhal
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Even that would be hard

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And not the intended purpose of the protocol

formal olive
lilac wharf
jolly narwhal
rocky hedge
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I have been using an Aqara "Magic Cube" for months and all of a sudden its been going offline. I also noticed a Smartthings button has been acting a bit unreliable.

I did just rewrite some of my Automations for both the cube and the button.
Could that be causing some problems?

ancient bane
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Is there any way to nuke zigbee2mqtt and anything connected to it from high orbit and start fresh? I've flashed my coordinator (and erased nvram) and deleted share/zigbee2mqtt but still can't get devices to join

austere patio
ancient bane
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ZigStar PoE Coordinator

austere patio
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And share the output

ancient bane
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I also have a generic CC1352 and if I try the scan from that I get "Could not start application, network is not formed"

austere patio
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Yeah, it doesn't work if the stick has no formed network

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Run the .form_network tool

ancient bane
austere patio
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Z2M uses channel 11, ZHA uses 15. Also if you don't use the CC1352 the network won't even be running if you unplug the CC1352.

obsidian sandalBOT
austere patio
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How does this compare to your POE gateway?

ancient bane
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not sure, how would I run it on that? socat?

austere patio
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If you stop Z2M, you can use socket://1.2.3.4:5678 as the serial port

ancient bane
austere patio
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Do you have a 2.4GHz WiFi network on channel 1 nearby?

ancient bane
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"Auto" 2.4 and 112 5, so possibly; I just instructed my AP to scan, so we'll see what channel I should move it to

austere patio
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If you don't have many devices joined, move the Zigbee network to channel 25, it seems a lot quieter

ancient bane
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I don't have any devices joined, I used the USB stick for a few years, then decided to get the PoE adapter, switched to it, re-paired all my devices, then things worked for a few weeks, then randomly I have no devices joined; so I flashed the PoE adapter and couldn't get anything to join, I also reflashed my USB adapter and same thing

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I have 2 powered devices blinking like they're trying to join, but they don't

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I could move WiFi to 9 (14% utilization, -85dBm interference); The strongest is 3 (39% utilization, -82dBm interference)

austere patio
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Stick to 1, 6, or 11

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They have no overlap

ancient bane
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Is WiFi ch1 == Zigbee ch11 interference wise?

austere patio
ancient bane
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My zigbee2mqtt config is currently set at 11

austere patio
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The big wide ones are WiFi 1, 6, and 11

ancient bane
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so I should either do wifi 1, zigbee 25 or wifi 11, zigbee 11; or wifi 6, zigbee 11 or 26

austere patio
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WiFi handles channel changes transparently so try changing your 2.4GHz network to 11 and re-do the energy scan

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Or leave it running, maybe you will see it in real time

ancient bane
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I also have a z-wave dongle within 1ft of it, I know that's 900Mhz range, there's not any resonate issues, is there?

austere patio
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I doubt it but it won't hurt if you move the Zigbee radio

ancient bane
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yea, I love the idea of PoE, I can put it anywhere now

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yea, I'm guessing WiFi ended up on ch1 at some point, I watched zigbee ch11 drop to ~1/2 what it was while my AP provisioned to ch11

austere patio
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If you're going to be re-joining devices, I suggest moving away from 11 and to one of 15, 20, or 25

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"Auto" for WiFi should be picking one of 1, 6, or 11, which will drown out the Zigbee network again. Zigbee 15, 20, and 25/26 avoid that problem somewhat.

ancient bane
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OK, so I should be able to start Zigbee2mqtt, then Permit Join (All), hold the button on this outlet, wait for it to start blinking, then I should see it in Z2M shortly, right?

austere patio
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That should work

ancient bane
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how long should I wait before I assume something is wrong?

austere patio
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What device are you trying to join? My IKEA outlets take like 5s to show up.

ancient bane
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I left 2 outlets on blinking and permit join overnight and they never showed up

austere patio
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It takes only a few seconds for them to scan all of the Zigbee channels for open networks so overnight is definitely not necessary

ancient bane
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I did just see zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event show up with a "type": "device_interview" but I don't see anything in the web interface

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I have ~18 devices and they've all joined within seconds in the past

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OK, ~2min later I see 2 "Unsupported" devices in the web interface - I presume the interview failed or didn't complete?

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I know they're supported, I've used them before

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seeing as the first 1/2 of the IEEE address is the same, I presume these 2 devices are the outlets (everything else is battery operated)

austere patio
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Sounds like the network works so it's a Z2M problem

jolly python
ancient bane
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That's what I was wondering, it's one of the few common denominators in all this; hence me deleting share/zigbee2mqtt/* in the hopes of resetting Z2M

ancient bane
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I think it's in a loop of interviewing a device, then failing to interview, then trying to interview again

austere patio
ancient bane
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I presume I need more logs above the first line

austere patio
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AF - dataConfirm - {"status":225,"endpoint":242,"transid":5}

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225 is 0xE1: MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE

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Your radio is listening but is refusing to send out any requests because it sees too much noise

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Since you already moved your WiFi network to channel 11, have you placed the coordinator in a relatively quiet spot?

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If that doesn't work, you really have only one option left: change the Zigbee channel to 25 and move WiFi back to 1

ancient bane
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In the scan tool, the lower (fewer #s), the better, right; so I want it on the channel with the least #s, right?

austere patio
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Yes. You generally want to stick to 15, 20, or 25, because some (rare) devices only join on those channels, and they will never overlap directly with the three common 2.4GHz WiFi channels

ancient bane
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Interesting, 25 was the lowest, now it's medium (22 is the highest)

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I disabled 2.4 on my AP for a bit to test, I restart Z2M and will see what happens (it takes ~3-5min to fail)

ancient bane
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O.o I still get the same issue

austere patio
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That would make sense, the AP was on the far end of the 2.4GHz spectrum so turning it off won't do much

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Did you try changing the channel to 25 or moving the Zigbee radio elsewhere?

ancient bane
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yea, it's supposedly running on ch25; I should be able to use my USB dongle on a separate machine across the room, scan, and see my PoE adapter I presume?

austere patio
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Use the .network_scan tool, you'll see beacons from your second dongle on channel 25

ancient bane
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well IDK what specifically I did, but it works and I was able to add everything just fine

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Thanks for the help (the scan tool is really helpful)

jovial aspen
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The wind must have been blowing in the right direction

azure tinsel
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Every time i move my home assistant, loading a full snapshot onto another system everything seems to work except for z2mqtt. For some reason if the new system does not have the exact same ip as the old one i get this error in the z2m logs:

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-03-19 14:01:23: MQTT failed to connect: Connection refused: Not authorized
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-03-19 14:01:23: Exiting...

Does some one know how to fix this without changing the ip?

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reinstalling the mosquito broker fixes it but im not planning on renaming 720 entities any time soon

jolly narwhal
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Well... There are no access rules for IP by default

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So that is something you have configured

stark bear
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@cloud heath @tropic depot @austere patio @inner bay @fair mountain I just wanted to check back in with you guys. Thanks for all of the help with the ikea switch troubleshooting! I performed the over the air update last night on one of the switches and it is now working and I can see the events in the event viewer and link them to automations! Works perfect!!!!!! Thanks for everyones help!

inner bay
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glad you got it functional....mine will remain in a drawer 😄

stark bear
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@inner bay LoL thanks! Yup I got that drawer too full of lots of zigbee crap that never seemed to work #ebay I do like sonoff and aquara as well they seem to always work a treat but the ikea switches were just much cheaper then importing the sonoff stuff so wanted to give them a try

fair mountain
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I have not had much luck with the Sonoff motion sensors. Aqara is fine but I wish they followed the zigbee spec. Nothing like them getting stuck on a router that isn't responding.

stark bear
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@fair mountain good to know. I am looking at picking up some motion sensors next currently using ones that I built a long time ago with arduino boards but looking for something on zigbee that looks a bit more professional hahaha

jolly narwhal
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Hasn't happened here in close to four years Shrug

lilac wharf
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i personally don't care for the aqara stuff

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the sonoff SNZB line is junk

jolly narwhal
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_cancel friendship _

lilac wharf
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i've had a great experience with my linkind zigbee stuff

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and the xfinity stuff too actually

jolly narwhal
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I don't think we get them here

lilac wharf
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linkind has a presence outside of the US, but yeah, I don't see Norwat on the list

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i'm guessing Xfinity is US only

fair mountain
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my philips hue motion sensors are my absolute favourite, long battery life, great detection, etc. etc. but they're SO EXPENSIVE.

fair mountain
lilac wharf
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orly

fair mountain
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it is US only

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its Comcast branding

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but all the leviton DGS15S say Xfinity on the boxes

shrewd crypt
#

ZHA Help please - struggling with Sylvania Smart+ Zigbee bulbs this morning. One of them in particular. What does it mean when a device is hung on Starting Interview in ZHA add device screen?

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have tried to remove, factory reset, and re-add multiple times. At best I get 4 out of 5 bulbs to join the network

fair mountain
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keep trying? 🙂

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could be interference ...

jolly python
uneven ruin
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my sylvania bulbs (can light br30 style) were real finicky until I added a couple more routers around them

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They were really high up in a vaulted ceiling

shrewd crypt
#

thank you. I guess it could be one of those. it seems like there is one bulb in particular that is giving me trouble....

uneven ruin
#

far corner

shrewd crypt
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I've moved it to a couple different fixtures

uneven ruin
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oh

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antenna might be weak manufacturing variance

shrewd crypt
#

yeah thinking that one needs to come out, swap some things around.

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what information can I get from the network visualization? what is the meaning of the line color and value connecting devices

vapid flint
austere patio
vapid flint
fair mountain
sour shadow
austere patio
jolly narwhal
#

This is a surprisingly common scenario for some reason

jolly python
sour shadow
#

Today I Learned

jolly python
#

Because of that, i have used illuminance treshhold crossing as trigger too with motion as condition

vapid flint
#

I have others device that act as repeater, some switches (connected to elettricity and not with batteries), so those should be considered as routers?

jolly narwhal
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Most mains powered stuff is

vapid flint
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is it possible to check on z2m if a device is doing routing and if a device is not a direct child?

jolly python
sour shadow
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And, more simply, look at the Device type

vapid flint
#

ah, thanks

jolly python
vapid flint
#

I am wondering if there is a way to "force" a router device to route a given endDevice

jolly python
#

It is possible to join a device through a certain router, but if it isnt an aqara device it will probably change its parent

little lodge
#

I have a ZigBee thermostat that appears to have a Heat/Cool mode, but doesn't actually support it. Can I correct that in HA?
This is a Centralite touch thermostat.
HA reports quirk zhaquirks.centralite.cl_3157100.CentraLite3157100

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This is starting to look like a misidentification issue.

{
  //...
  "model": "3157100",
  //...
}

Actual thermostat model: 3000-wC

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There's also other problems like the power source being Battery & Unknown, but this might be because the thermostat is unable to report exactly how it's being powered at the moment. Because the thermostat is powered off the 24V of the unit so it can operate without batteries.

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Playing with the clusters, asking for mains information is all None

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Well, maybe 3157100 is the Model. Hrm.

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Oh, power source.
PowerSource.undefined_0x81

little lodge
#

Issued filed #68400

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@tropic depot So I don't clutter the GitHub issue (#68400): Contents of "ZigBee Device Signature" is what you want exactly?

tropic depot
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there is a button on that screen

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Under what you took a screenshot of

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That pops open a dialog full of information

little lodge
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Making sure. Will post.

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Didn't want to accidentally give the wrong information and clutter the issue.

tropic depot
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No worries

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So look at what you shared

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That power source on the card comes from: is_mains_powered=False,

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Which is reported by the device

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Welcome to zigbee 😀

little lodge
#

Oh, yeah now I'm seeing it.

{
  // ...
  "node_descriptor": "[...] *is_mains_powered=False [...]"
  // ...
}
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I'll update the issue title and mention what's going on.

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Debating if I just want to close this issue and merge it into the first, but PowerSource.undefined_0x81 is perplexing.

tropic depot
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from the basic cluster?

little lodge
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Yeah.

tropic depot
#

just means the value they used isn’t in the enum

little lodge
tropic depot
#

zigpy just got updated to flesh a lot of these out

little lodge
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Ah.

#

That makes a bit of sense; I figure HA is a version-so behind.

tropic depot
#

So yeah look at what you linked

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The whole 2nd table from the docs is missing

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values 0x80 to 0x86 aren’t present

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Ooo wait… I wasn’t looking at deserialize right

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Let me check the previous version

little lodge
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Here I was panic-searching and using GitHub's history like a poor-man's blame.

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I'm taking a guess you have the source available and have a bit more information to work with.

tropic depot
#

what’s the actual issue?

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the only thing we use this for is to pick a timeout value to mark things unavailable and to determine if we actively read state on startup

little lodge
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It seems like HA's not sure how to deal with a mains powered device with a battery backup, or PowerSource: 0x81

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From my very broad observation.

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Oh! Unknown right. I forgot it doesn't just mean "We don't know" but rather "We don't know, but will know in the future."

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But in this case why is it Unknown when...we should know the power source?

tropic depot
#

again, that screen shows what the node descriptor reports

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not what the basic cluster shows

little lodge
#

Ah so asking it via "Manage Clusters" != What we see in the UI here.

tropic depot
#

correct

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What you gathered from the dialog is what’s shown

little lodge
#

Alright. I guess this is a device issue, not some core ZHA issue.

tropic depot
#

What’s actually wrong with the device as far as functionality goes?

little lodge
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At the moment, that error and it having a Heat/Cool mode when it in fact doesn't: Supports only Heat, Cool, and of course Off.

tropic depot
#

Is there an issue for heat/cool open?

little lodge
#

I reckon I should merge that issue with the separate Heat/Cool issue since this is device specific actually. And I think I did a search and it came up with a close model that had a...

tropic depot
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we probably won’t do anything with the power source one if it isn’t impacting any functionality. The value is more for us for troubleshooting

tropic depot
little lodge
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Not exactly, but close to it. Mine's reported as a 3157100, their's 3157100-E

tropic depot
#

1 min

little lodge
#

I might need to step away a moment since I'm starting to become starved, and I do really stupid things while starved.

tropic depot
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Lol no worries I get it

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Dm me any details you have and I’ll look at this tomorrow

little lodge
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I think I gave all the details I can provide right now. The only other thing I can probably deliver is me investigating what the device sends on the controller and see if it ever reports some kind of, "I have mains power!" or something.

tropic depot
#

oh I meant for the hvac mode stuff

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the mains thing is completely unrelated

little lodge
tropic depot
#

Yeah I looked over it, will take some troubleshooting but I’m not at the computer now. I’ll look at it tomorrow

little lodge
#

When I get some food in me, I'll see if I can get anything interesting from the ZigBee network.

little lodge
#

Puzzled by this error message```
ERROR (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0x8811:1:0x0201] 'SystemType.Heat_Stage_1|Cool_Stage_1' is not a valid Thermostat.SystemType

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Trying to remote-configure a thermostat with the correct modes but not sure what I should be providing.

# 
'SystemType.Heat_Stage_1|Cool_Stage_1|Heat_Stage_2|Cool_Stage_1' is not a valid Thermostat.SystemType
'15' is not a valid Thermostat.SystemType
'f' is not a valid Thermostat.SystemType
'0x0f' is not a valid Thermostat.SystemType
'0x0F' is not a valid Thermostat.SystemType
'SystemType.Heat_Stage_1' is not a valid Thermostat.SystemType

Hmm.

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I can change the fan operation, but it has to be hex/int. Weird.

little lodge
#

Actually enum8, or enum_factory, doesn't have it either. Weird.

grand parcel
#

Is zigbee2mqtt website down for anyone else?

ivory hound
#

yes

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seem so

jovial aspen
#

I've just added a new Hue bulb to ZHA, and created an automation to have it turn on up to 50% over 5 seconds. Instead it's going straight 100% brightness when it turns on, then back to 0% and up to 50% over 5 seconds.

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It's really annoying

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Has anyone else seen a bulb behave like this?

#

It's in our nursery, and the automation is set to turn the bulb on at night when we take the baby in for a change. Instead it dazzles us just as we walk into the room. It's pretty dangerous actually.

tropic depot
#

Get a trace of the network traffic (turn on debug logs for zha and it’s libs.) instructions are in the docs

jovial aspen
#

on it

tropic depot
# jovial aspen on it

Also, can you DM me the configuration for the turn on call in the automation (screen shot is fine)

fervent tiger
#

Can someone please help to setup MQTT sensor.
In Zigbee2MQTT I have below log when pressing button 1:
MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/alarm', payload '{"action":"button_1_single","battery":100,"linkquality":109,"switch_actions_button_1":null,"switch_actions_button_10":null,"switch_actions_button_11.... and so on
When I release the button I have:
MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/alarm', payload '{"action":"","battery":100,"linkquality":109,"switch_actions_button_1":null,"switch_actions_button_10":null,"switch_actions_button_11":null,"switch_actions_button_1
In my configuration.yaml I made:

  - platform: mqtt
    state_topic: "zigbee2mqtt/alarm"
    name: "alarm_1"```
Above sensor code is the basic. I'm aware also the action: button_1_single should be 'implemented' but I don't know how. Your help is much appreciated!
paper wraith
paper wraith
#

And then following keypress works

lime locust
#

got one bulb after a power-cut isnt able to re-pair ? when factory resetting the device it starts flashing but no interview ?

#

ah just got it , pairing took a looong time :S

fervent tiger
paper wraith
paper wraith
#

U may use it for ur automations

paper wraith
fervent tiger
#

_freepad.hex. Where does pm3 stands for?

paper wraith
paper wraith
fervent tiger
#

So far I use the module on a 3V3 power supply. The device paired without any problem, otherwise I couldn't see the log right...

#

A google search with your keywords doesn't really helps...

paper wraith
#

Okay please test once u leave the keypad idle for 6hrs + and use does it register event without an issue ?

paper wraith
fervent tiger
#

Thanks, will read about it

dapper horizon
#

Hi Guys
for the last few days I've been going insane.
I've had a pi 4 free so I thought I'd finally make my build with a rpi4 on an ssd.
installed it, works like a charm.
I still have my old rpi3 running homeassistant with a z2mqtt sheppard stick. which works fine, but SSD and rpi 3, so ..

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now I wanted to just mgrate to the new system all my zigbee devices are seen as unavailable. when I try to add a new one it will not pair, (interview failed)

#

could this be because of the other zigbee system still being up and running?

sour shadow
#

Did you check and ensure they're using different PANID values

dapper horizon
#

even with a blank install?

sour shadow
#

If you have two networks with the same PANID it'll cause issues

dapper horizon
#

aha

#

I can just take any value for it?

sour shadow
#

Yes

dapper horizon
#

or there is a calculation , or ... ?

#

ah okay thanks let me try that

crimson basalt
#

Hi, does anyone know what the Identify entity for zigbee devices in zha does or how I can use it for a diagnostic?

austere patio
wispy plank
#

Has anyone got the IKEA Trådfri bulbs working with ZHA? I just got one and I cannot get it to pair using the 6x on/off power cycle. The videos show that when the bulb has power, it turns on, but mine has not once. I’ve verified my bulb socket is working as well. Is it possible that I have a dead bulb or is there something else to try?

austere patio
wispy plank
austere patio
#

And you're 100% sure the fixture works? If so, the bulb sounds defective.

wispy plank
#

Yes, I have another bulb here working just fine

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:/

lilac wharf
#

Good thing you have 365 days to return it

#

I actually returned an entire dining set to Ikea (table and four chairs) after using it for 9 months

#

It looked brand new and I didn't want to take it when I moved

#

So I guess I rented a dining set for 9 months for the cost of the time it took me to assemble it and return it and dinner for my friend who helped me return it in his truck

wispy plank
#

I just found the issue and now I feel bad for asking about it here. Turns out either this bulb or socket requires you to really twist the bulb in tight for it to work 🤦‍♂️

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I was getting frustrated with it and screwed it in extra snug, past the point of fully tight, and then it worked

#

Ugh, thank you for the help 🙃

jovial aspen
#

ha so weird

#

you wouldn't think that would make a difference

sleek salmon
#

hey guys! sorry im just starting to learn about Zigbee so my apologies if I sound dumb... does this require me to buy some extra hardware?

sour shadow
#

Yes

#

You need a Zigbee coordinator, and then Zigbee devices

#

It is however 100% local, no cloud rubbish

sleek salmon
#

so id need to replace my current smart devices?

sour shadow
#

Yes

#

Some Tuya devices, older ones, can be flashed with Tasmota to give you local control, but they changed the chipsets

jolly narwhal
#

The older the better

sleek salmon
#

mine arent very old so ill probably need to replace it all

#

its so annoying that my tuya devices just wont show at all

jolly narwhal
#

I have a few Tuya devices, the flashable ones are fine, the non flashable ones go straight in the bin

sleek salmon
#

anyone have a good suggestion for a good zigbee coordinator?

obsidian sandalBOT
#

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: atxbyea
jolly narwhal
#

The tube Poe coordinator is goaFeelsLoveMan

sleek salmon
#

thank you!

snow bear
#

Hey folks, I'm currently a pretty happy user of deconz with a conbee 2, but I'm waiting for my HA Yellow, at which point I'll switch (probably to ZHA with onboard)... Does anyone know of any documentation around this sort of migration? Perhaps there will be some simple scripts that will carry across the hardware to the new device? I assume ZHA to ZHA isn't too bad but I am afraid I might be out of luck with the Deconz to ZHA 🙂

austere patio
# snow bear Hey folks, I'm currently a pretty happy user of deconz with a conbee 2, but I'm ...

There isn't a completely seamless way to migrate but you can at least move the network settings, causing existing devices on the network to "join" automatically as they contact the coordinator. Battery operated devices won't migrate very easily this way though, if at all.

Of course more is possible if you want to dig into the deCONZ zll.db database, maybe it has enough info to be copied into ZHA's zigbee.db.

ruby grove
#

hey i am using zha and tring to connect my last lamp but it dosent show up as lamp how can i fix this ?

tropic depot
#

assume it shows as a switch?

ruby grove
#

it only shows identify, basic lqi and rssi

tropic depot
#

oh there is no entity... well that's different

#

what is the manufacturer / model for the device?

ruby grove
#

philips hue / Ensis Pendelleuchte witch has 2 lights one light works the other one not

tropic depot
#

post the content of the zigbee device signature dialog somewhere and link it here please

ruby grove
#

i think i fixed it self i dont know how but now there is a Light switch thx for helping

fair mountain
#

Anyone have a lava lamp like script for Hue? I have a bunch of bollards in my backyard that I'd like to slowly change colours on.

glossy pulsar
#

is there a trick to get ikea styrbar to work?

sour shadow
#

with deCONZ? with ZHA? with Zigbee2MQTT?

glossy pulsar
#

zha

#

seems not to work with deconz either

sour shadow
#

With ZHA I'd expect events, rather than an entity

glossy pulsar
#

zha with the sonos 3.0 stick

#

i can pair them, but basically nothing works

turbid ledge
#

hello my beautiful zigbee enthusiasts
soo i need your help (:
i bought an ikea tradfri hub without knowing it needed a remote with it to function for some reason
i don't really use hubs much instead for the obligatory Hue hub which i'm too lazy to change to zigbee2mqtt ...

Anyhow i am giving this hub to my sister and she's just starting out with IoT and I don't have an extra zigbee dongle to setup the bulbs without a hub (:

any solution that doesn't require buying the remote or doing HA with a zigbee dongle ?

glossy pulsar
#

and the manual of these things seems to be wrong too

sour shadow
tropic depot
glossy pulsar
#

but does not look like i get events either

#

guess should not have impulse bought them. Are there good working remotes?

jolly narwhal
#

It works fine with zha

#

If you do as told

glossy pulsar
#

i do not even get battery and they do not create events, so what should I do?

#

also weird i can not get them in pairing mode like the manual describes

#

last seen never updates from the pairing time... guess i will take a look later with a fresh mind again

unborn orbit
#

i've gotta say i've learned my lesson. you end up getting what you pay for on end devices. switched some of my less expensive bulbs from home depot out for hue bulbs and the difference is night and day. no drop offs and range is way better

plain latch
#

But then you need to get the phone out every time you want to interact with your light.

plain latch
jolly narwhal
#

Works fine here

#

Yet to have anything not work in zigbee2mqtt

gusty pumice
#

Hi. I recently started using ZHA for my home automation. I bought a few Aqara devices and paired them up with Home Assistant. At first everything worked. But after a several days I noticed the Aqara motion sensor was weirdly disconnected. It was still available in Home Assistant, but it didn't report any changes of its state. I fixed the issue by simply pairing the device again. But after a few more days the same thing happened. Now it's disconnecting even three times a day. And my contact sensor also started reporting unavailable. I lookd at the LQI and noticed that for all of my devices, it is somewhere around 1. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. The raspberry pi is literally in the next room. And even devices like the Aqara cube, which are pretty far away from the pi work normally and had no issues yet. I also have some Philips Hue bulbs paired to their original bridge, which is next to the pi and it works with no problems. Waht should I do? Pairing those devices again and again is really annoying...

sour shadow
#

What coordinator are you using?

#

Is the coordinator on a USB 2.0 extension cable?

gusty pumice
#

CC2531, connected directly to the pi.

sour shadow
#

Well, there's your problem ... twice over

#

Does it at least have an antenna?

gusty pumice
#

No

sour shadow
gusty pumice
#

Does it interfere with the pi or something?

sour shadow
#

Well, you've got the least capable coordinator, with the weakest signal, getting interference from the Pi

gusty pumice
#

Ok

#

Should I'll equip it with an antenna?

sour shadow
#

Buy a better coordinator, put it on a USB 2.0 extension cable

gusty pumice
#

Ok. Thanks for the help!

obsidian sandalBOT
#

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
gusty pumice
#

Thanks a lot.

inner bay
#

are there any radiator thermostats working with zigbee ? i'd prefer ones that you can adjust thru HA and not adjust manually by hand.

sour shadow
inner bay
#

sorry. thought the question was too specific....i withdraw my Q your honor

#

😉

sour shadow
#

There's a pinned message with lists of known working hardware, both of which have a search feature

inner bay
#

ty sire

#

i see

#

looks like there's a saswell one

#

thx Tinkerer

mighty lion
#

hi guys, i have a conbee 2 and it always says "device is offline" even tho connected, any ideas?

sour shadow
#

Did you connect it directly to the computer, or did you use a (USB 2.0) extension cable?

mighty lion
#

direct connect

sour shadow
#

Use an extension cable

#

USB 2.0 cable or a USB 2.0 port too

mighty lion
#

okay ill buy a 2.0 cable then

#

i think my server only has 3.0 tho

sour shadow
#

That's ok, as long as you're using a 2.0 cable - USB 3.0 produces interference with Zigbee

mighty lion
#

okay thanks i hope that works.. it was working before so i dont know 😄

#

suddenly after a server restart it wasnt working anymore

sour shadow
#

If you used the /dev/tty* path, check that hasn't changed

#

The full error message will help us help you

mighty lion
#

i already tried removing the integration and reinstalled it, didnt help

#

it is detecting the serial connection but then shows offline

sour shadow
#

What's the log message?

mighty lion
#

[0x94DD:11:0x0006]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('[0x94dd:11:0x0006]: Message send failure'), DeliveryError('[0x94dd:11:0x0006]: Message send failure'), DeliveryError('[0x94dd:11:0x0006]: Message send failure'), DeliveryError('[0x94dd:11:0x0006]: Message send failure')]

#

Logger: homeassistant.components.hassio
Source: components/hassio/init.py:569
Integration: Home Assistant Supervisor (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 11:51:18 (2 occurrences)
Last logged: 11:56:18

Can't read Supervisor data: Container addon_45df7312_zigbee2mqtt is not running

sour shadow
#

You're using Zigbee2MQTT?

#

Check the log for the add-on

mighty lion
sour shadow
# 
Can't read Supervisor data: Container addon_45df7312_zigbee2mqtt is not running
``` Then why?
mighty lion
#

i am wondering aswell 😄

sour shadow
#

What Zigbee integration do you think you're using?

#

ZHA? Zigbee2MQTT? deCONZ? Confused?

mighty lion
#

oh! i have zigbee2mqtt on the ADDONS

sour shadow
#

Check the log for the add-on

#

☝️ hence that

mighty lion
#

where can i see it?

sour shadow
#

In the add-on

mighty lion
#

i just uninstalled zigbee2mqtt, i want to use ZHA the standard integration

sour shadow
#

Well, remove the add-on completely, then set ZHA up

mighty lion
#

yup

sour shadow
#

If you're getting any message about Z2M in any log then you didn't remove it

mighty lion
#

what is the most common integration? i am very new in this topic and just want to use my zigbee devices (ikea, lidl) in HA

sour shadow
#

Either

#

Blindly following the herd however isn't ever smart

mighty lion
#

okay, now the conbee2 is online in ZHA 🙂

ivory trail
#

I am using the Deconz add-on with ConbeeII. I can't for the life of me successfully install firmware updates in the Deconz (Hue/Tradfri). Is it possible to install zigbee2mqtt in parallel to just manage the updates without breaking the Deconz integration setup?

sour shadow
#

Only if you have a second Zigbee coordinator stick

ivory trail
#

I was thikning it might be possible to pause Deconz, load up z2m and do the magic there and then restart Deconz afterwards?

sour shadow
#

If you've got a working backup of your coordinator try it, but there's a chance it'll cause problems

inner bay
#

is ikea OTA broken in z2m ?

#

i always get failed to retrieve update info -ish

ivory hound
#

never in my life got a IKEA update whatever server I've tried

jolly python
#

No problem here, but the last update is several weeks ago

jolly narwhal
#

Never had issues tbh

#

Had to run the test server for a while

#

But other than that Ikea ota works flawlessly

inner bay
#

just says failed to get update info

#

do i have to add something to configuration.yaml ?

jolly narwhal
#

Nope

#

What version of Z2M? With what coordinator and what device?

inner bay
#

z2m: Current version: 1.24.0-1

dongle: sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb dongle c2652

ikea devices in general

austere patio
#

Oh, I think I see it

#

A previously functional OTA download URL is returning 403 😢

#

Though new ones work

#

What does the Z2M debug log show?

inner bay
#

hoe do i use another one ?

#

i'll check

austere patio
#

You don't, there's only one. I was referring to a direct link I had to an old firmware file for some random bulb.

#

Yeah they all still work, must be a local problem or a bug in Z2M

inner bay
#

Failed to check if update available for 'IkeaStyrbar' (Device didn't respond to OTA request)

#

Failed to check if update available for 'IkeaDimmerE1743' (Device didn't respond to OTA request)

austere patio
#

That's on the Zigbee side of things then, if the device is unreachable then you can't do much

inner bay
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i have a phue motion sensor and the check works for that one

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i turned an ikea light off and on again and check worked for that one

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maybe it's poor signal

austere patio
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If the device is battery operated, it's normal for it to be unreachable for extended periods of time

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Z2M seems to be reading FW version info straight from the device

inner bay
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ahh....that explains it then

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i'll operate the remotes then and it mught work

austere patio
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Battery operated IKEA devices also check in about once a day and proactively ask for a new firmware image, maybe Z2M will initiate the upgrade automatically

inner bay
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these devices are not connected to an ikea bridge....the ones that are are administered by the bridge i think

austere patio
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All of the OTA stuff is standard Zigbee and IKEA implements it normally (for the most part)

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So it not being connected to an IKEA gateway doesn't change anything in that respect

inner bay
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some of the devices can only be checked for update theu the app(added quite a while prior to zigbee dongle)

austere patio
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Which ones?

inner bay
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anyway i guess you hit the nail with them going in sleep mode

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i have more devices connected to the gatway and they auto update

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only the ones in z2m that gives some headache

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just found out i can use z2m logs as an event checker

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if i set the log-level to debug

sacred seal
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I have a raspberry pi and ZigBee USB device that plus into the pi. I need to basically turn the raspberry pi into the zigbee hub and connect it to Tuya. How do I do that?

lilac wharf
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you can't

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but why would you want to do that anyway?

sour shadow
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That sounds like a terrible idea

austere patio
naive wing
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Ok now i'm confused. Maybe someone could help me.
It's about wiring a wall switch up.

There's a live wire. A neutral wire. And possibly/ optional a 'ground' wire.
(Brown, blue and green/yellow here in the Netherlands.)

But then, in some outlets there is also a black wire which goes towards the lightbulb or device.

If i order any (zigbee) wall switch, does it need to be with or without neutral?

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It seems like different websites point me in different directions. Must have to do something with different countries and different standards i suppose

lilac wharf
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Most require a neutral. There are some that don't, and they will say that they don't require one

naive wing
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Doesn't it also depend on whatever my wall outlet has?

lilac wharf
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Well, your choice will be dependent on if there's a neutral at the intended switch location

naive wing
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Yeah i think there's neutral wires in every location of every outlet in these houses

lilac wharf
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Outlet meaning receptacle or switch?

naive wing
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both?

Every receptacle in the house has both a live and a neutral. (And a few have a ground wire).

And the switches have a black cable going up towards the lightbulbs

lilac wharf
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Yeah, every receptacle will have a neutral by default unless you don't want it to work 😄 (or if it's 240V split phase, for example)

#

The black wire just sounds like the load wire in this scenario

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If you have a neutral at the switch location, then you can use any zigbee switch that requires a neutral

naive wing
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Ah, allright. I should order the ones with neutral then. I just got confused on different websites >.<

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Thanx for the info 🙂

waxen stream
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#zigbee-archived Help with zigbee.
I recently purchased the SONOFF Zigbee USB dongle plus and flashed it to the latest firmware. When I plug it in, it is discovered but when I try to set it up, I get "unknown error". I'm running HA OS - 2022.3.5.

austere patio
waxen stream
# austere patio Enable https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#debug-logging and look at...

Not much:
Probing /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_xxxxxx
Connecting to <same> at 115200 baud
Opened <same> at serial port
Connected to <same> at 115200 baud
Connected to <same> at 115200 baud
Connecting to <same> at 115200 baud
Opened <same> at serial port
Connected to <same> at 115200 baud
Connected to <same> at 115200 baud
[zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] ZNP is not configured, forming a new network

waxen stream
oak pike
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Hi all. I have a zigbee thermostat (centralite pearl) and it's worked great for months. Yesterday I noticed it was a bit cool in the house despite saying it was 73.1. Looked at the history and found for the entire last day that thermostat said it was 73.1 as it was just a flat line on the graph for the day. On the actual thermostat it said it was 65.5 current, set point 65.0. On HA I changed the set point from 65 to 72 but a few seconds later it reverted back to 65.0 on its own without me touching it. The fix? Pulled the faceplate off, did nothing, and put it back. Everything began to work then. Prior to that I tried restarting HA, but that didn't change anything. Is there any way to identify in the logs what actually transpired when that thermostat hit 73.1 and ended up staying there?

austere patio
waxen stream
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No errors. Unless I'm missing something

austere patio
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Can you post a link to the whole thing?

waxen stream
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Yes, I'll have to figure out how but I will. Thanks

whole stag
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Hi, does anyone knows how can i request a new device to be integrated with ZHA ?
its the new aqara FP1 sensor, it paired with ZHA but no entities

lilac wharf
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I'm so jealous

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I want one of those

oak pike
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oh fancy. I haven't seen these FP1's.

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I just bought two more aqara temp sensors tonight... and took delivery of an aqara door sensor a few hours ago. Majority of my HA setup is aqara come to think of it.

austere patio
whole stag
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CC2652P

austere patio
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What build of Z-Stack?

whole stag
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sorry what do you mean ?

austere patio
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The coordinator device should show you a version like Z-Stack 20211234

whole stag
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Texas Instruments CC1352/CC2652, Z-Stack 3.30+ (build 20210319)

austere patio
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New Aqara sensors won't join properly with the CC2652 if you're running older firmware

whole stag
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my version is old ? need to update ?

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i see, but is this sensor supported yet ?

austere patio
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ZHA doesn't require things to be explicitly supported like Z2M

whole stag
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when i checked here

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it only mentioned z2m

austere patio
#

That database relies on user reports for ZHA. Even if there is no quirk for it it likely will work to some extent.

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But if it's really hard to purchase, it likely won't be fully "supported" until enough people buy it and someone decides to try writing a quirk for it

whole stag
austere patio
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But if it's a newer Aqara device, you need to upgrade your coordinator firmware for it to even have a chance of working and for the data you collect to be useful

whole stag
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Yes il work on doing the backup , hope il manage

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as for the firmware version, how do i know exactly which one ? its one of these 2 right ?

austere patio
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There's a table in the Z-Stack firmware page that shows you which file is appropriate for your device. Make sure to use the right one, there are multiple board configurations for CC2652P

whole stag
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cant paste photo here, its one of the first two "TI" yes ?

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the 1st one matches mine ?

austere patio
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What stick are you using?

whole stag
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this

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and in ZHA

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it shows this

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Texas Instruments CC1352/CC2652, Z-Stack 3.30+ (build 20210319)

austere patio
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There's no way to tell which adapter you're using from software, it's only something you can tell from the stick itself

whole stag
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i need to look at the actual board ?

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on it ?

lilac wharf
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The photo you shared of the stick indicates it's based on the CC2652P

austere patio
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It's one of the two variants. If you flash the wrong firmware, it'll sort of brick it 😆

whole stag
whole stag
lilac wharf
austere patio
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Since you'll have to do the backup/restore and will have a Python environment set up for it, it's easier to use cc2538-bsl.py to flash it (after the backup): pip install git+https://github.com/JelmerT/cc2538-bsl intelhex, then cc2538-bsl.py -evw -p /dev/... firmware.hex

whole stag
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got it, il get on this, thanks guys

austere patio
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Good luck!

opal mesa
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Hey ho,
i recently moved to a new Appartement and my energy meter is now a little too far away in the cellar. It’s a develco zhemi101. There is an SMA connector and I am wonder how much distance I can gain with an external antenna. Any experiences? BTW I can’t use any mains devices on the way down

whole stag
sick condor
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I have home assistant os running on a raspi, a conbee ii zigbee adapter configured with zha. I've tried to get it to find two devices: 1) dogain smart plug, 2) a reset hue bulb. My smart things hub sees both devices as addable, but zha finds nothing. Any help is appreciated. These are the first two devices I"m attempting to use.

tropic depot
#

which pi and how is the conbee connected?

sick condor
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Raspberry Pi 4 Model B/4GB, connected to USB (2 i believe? not the blue ones) with a 1' extender

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Also, there is an SSD connected to a USB3 port, and I read one comment this morning saying "disconnect the conbee from USB3 and add it to USB2, b/c USB3s on Pi are noisy". So, not sure if that "noise" could be interfering with the zigbee, but there is nothing I can do about it as the SSD is where the OS is installed.

tropic depot
#

the extension should handle that

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a longer one may help

obsidian sandalBOT
tropic depot
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You can remove the bellows, zigate, znp and xbee lines

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Those are for different radio libs

sick condor
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I briefly had the deCONZ addon installed, but just looking at it, that was not the kind of thing I was hoping to be using.

tropic depot
#

Is there anything in the HA log?

sick condor
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cat home-assistant.log | grep zig

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Trying to figure out how to post the logs...

obsidian sandalBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

Command '.share' was invoked by: atxbyea
sick condor
austere patio
whole stag
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The restoring of the zha backup was tricky but its ok now

austere patio
#

Any difference after removing and re joining the aqara sensor?

sick condor
austere patio
sick condor
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Updating the firmware has worked! At least I can find the smart plug. Still can't find the Hue bulb, but that's probably a different issue now.

sick condor
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I just did an experiment with the SSD connected to USB3 vs USB2. USB3 is supposed to be able to provide 09.A vs 0.5A for USB2. The SSD is labeled at 2.0A, so that could be bad either way. If I tightly wrap the Pi and SSD in foil, I can turn a zigbee bulb on and off with the SSD on USB3. I can turn it on and off with no foil when the SSD is on USB2.

austere patio
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That matches what other people have previously experienced, SSDs connected over USB 3.0 do not make good Zigbee neighbors

sick condor
#

2 amps sound like a lot of power for an SSD...

wispy plank
#

In terms up backing up a Zigbee network, updating the coordinator and then restoring the network backup, is there a web GUI that can handle something like this or is the only way to do this is via the CLI?

austere patio
wispy plank
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I've always found it a process to update my ZZH coordinator, so I was wondering if a GUI add-on existed or something like that, or otherwise I'd be interested in working on making one

austere patio
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The problem is that all of those packages are still changing relatively frequently so the GUI would have to be updated frequently, at least until they're released as stable

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On the other hand, it's about as automatic as you can get with the three command line tools (i.e. you just hit enter) so I'm not sure if a GUI would simplify it

molten linden
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the zigstar multitool gui is out there.

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only really suggest it for folks who can't handle the command line.

austere patio
#

It does an NVRAM backup, not a network backup, so it's only for moving between the same type of coordinator (assuming the NVRAM structure doesn't change in future Z-Stack releases)

wispy plank
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Ah, since ZHA is working on it, maybe I'll just wait for that as I don't need to update the coordinator that frequently anyways. I can get around the CLI easily, but the way that I currently update it means moving the USB over to another VM and doing all the work there, just more of a pain in terms of that. It'd be nice to just have a few buttons to press to update it

molten linden
fair mountain
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back to unreliable zigbee comms, but only with ZHA. my lights bound to light switches work just fine. sigh. :/

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35% channel business.

austere patio
#

Are you using light groups or directly addressing lights?

fair mountain
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light groups

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ZHA light groups

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Even worse than the commands not working, I get nice things like the light will turn off and then turn itself back on, and these lights aretn part of adaptive lighting, so I cant even blame that. or, the lights will turn on, but the colours will be wrong on half.. or wrong on all of them.

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and the lights turning themselves back on happens with ZHA groups and individual bulbs.

austere patio
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Individual lights turning back on?

fair mountain
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@austere patio for example I have light.den_desk_lamp (single lamp), and light.den (ZHA group). I turn both of them off using light.turn_off with a list. the desk lamp will turn back on, but the ZHA group will stay off, or vica-versa. sometimes both.

abstract wagon
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Hi, im really new to home automation so bare with me if this is a really common questen.
So I have 3 Ikea smart bulbs and a conbee 2 with zha integration.
The conbee is connected to an usb hub as recommended in their manual. The distance to the light bulbs is approximatly 2m. After spending about 20mins to connect the bulbs I could imediatly notice that some commands are lost. Ignoring this for now I set up a light group for the lights. However in 50% of cases when I switch off/on the group, at least one light just ignores the command. Any suggestions?

austere patio
austere patio
abstract wagon
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its a hub

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power to low_

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?

austere patio
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Use a USB extension cable

abstract wagon
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I dont have a spare usb extension lying around but will try without the hub to see if it changes anything

fair mountain
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buy an extension then

austere patio
abstract wagon
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yes I read that already. Thats why I was using the hub in the first place

austere patio
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Plugging it straight into a hub seems like it would just move another USB controller right next to it again

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The USB extension cable moves everything away

abstract wagon
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okay i just realized I could use the usb extension from my mouse, however it doesnt change a thing, neither does plugging it directly

austere patio
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If you just unplugged the Conbee then it will take a few minutes for it to start working again

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I would leave it alone with the USB extension cable for a while

abstract wagon
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It is working, just unreliable

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ill still wait a few minutes

austere patio
abstract wagon
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it seems more reliable now. but still not good enough in my opinion. The state response still seams very unreliable.

austere patio
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Hmm, it looks like some requests just don't receive responses at all

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Your network is also running on channel 25

fair mountain
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Is there a way to reduce the number of retry attempts for ZHA?

austere patio
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Which radio are you using?

fair mountain
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CC1352/CC2652, Z-Stack 3.30+ (build 20220219)

abstract wagon
austere patio
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Not really, it's just not the default. Since you have only three devices, you may want to check if there's a better channel available

abstract wagon
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I did not change anything from default tho

austere patio
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If you previously changed in deCONZ then ZHA would continue using that same channel since a network already exists

abstract wagon
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never even opened deconz. All i did was install the homeassistant image, connect a philips hue bridge. THen decided to scrap the hue bridge and use a conbee. Finaly linked the bulbs to the conbee

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never even opened deconz

jolly python
austere patio
#

Strange. Well, there's not a whole lot else I can suggest beyond moving the Conbee around and potentially changing the channel to something quieter. There's not really any other configuration you can do.

abstract wagon
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Okay Ill look into that. However I get the feeling that the conbee is not what Im looking for. Thanks for the help anyways.

austere patio
#

The Conbee is more sensitive than other coordinators to external conditions so you may want to try out a CC2652 stick, they're a quarter of the price of a Conbee and work well.

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Or if you're interested in getting your hands dirty, there are a few low-level tweaks to try to enable ACKs

abstract wagon
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Sure

austere patio
abstract wagon
austere patio
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There are dozens with the same chip, that one will work

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But I suspect your problem is environmental, since many people are able to use the Conbee just fine (though many have issues too 😄)

abstract wagon
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okay then ill try the energy scan first. Do you know how I can leave the ha cli without it restarting immediately?

austere patio
#

How are you running HA? Docker? The OS?

abstract wagon
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im running the os

austere patio
fair mountain
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humm.

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so one of my ISP modems, despite me having it in bridge mode, and wifi disabled, was broadcasting 4 SSIDs on 2.4ghz

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I got my friend to turn the radio off on it via SNMP, he works for said ISP, and it's no longer broadcasting .. and thats helped with my zigbee issues a tiny bit

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and I moved my APs to Channel 1 and 6 instead of Auto, but I didnt see any reduction in interference from doing that.

#

could the 5 retries for each failed command contribute to things being sluggish?

austere patio
#

The retries in ZNP try various methods to contact the device

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So it's not just "try the same thing a few more times". You shouldn't normally be seeing failed requests though.

fair mountain
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well its trying to hit offline devices

austere patio
#

Your setup is pretty unique so there's no direct way to tweak any of this stuff. https://github.com/walthowd/ha-constant-modifier worked in the past but now that custom components are lazy loaded, there's no simple way to do this any more (unless you're running the OS)

fair mountain
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running "the OS"?

fair mountain
austere patio
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Home Assistant OS

fair mountain
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i am using hASS

austere patio
#

A similar method may work with Docker

fair mountain
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maybe I dont quite understand how HASSIO or whatever it';s being called these days would help me use your nifty custom component

jolly narwhal
austere patio
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It's all a giant hack to begin with, HA OS just runs in such a way to allow you to inject code. I'll make a new version of that script...eventually.

jolly narwhal
fair mountain
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and then you have people like me who 💩 all over supervisor :p

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now it just yells at me about being unsupported

austere patio
#

Oh, the custom component won't work at all, don't bother

jolly narwhal
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Which is the least desirable installation option

fair mountain
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i mean im running HomeAssistant OS

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with supervisor

jolly narwhal
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I have no idea how that can become unsupported, but then again I don't touch either of those installation methods with a ten foot poop knife

fair mountain
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I have ~unauthorized docker containers~ installed

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lol

signal wraith
#

Just wanted to drop a message. I got a ConBee 2 to replace my Sonoff controller. The Sonoff just wouldn't keep anything connected. After removing my Zha DB, and doing all kinds of stuff to make sure the SonOff Controller was no longer there. I was not able to get anything to connect to my ConBee. Well doing a quick search on here I saw that some people were having issues until they plugged in a USB extension. Well why not give that a go. Grabbed on and plugged it in. Now I'm able to add devices. Crazy, but it's working now.
Just wanted to share.

jolly narwhal
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Pretty well known issue

austere patio
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They really should start shipping the Conbee with a USB extension cable in the box

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It just doesn't work without one

jolly narwhal
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I've never used an extension cord with my cc2652s when i still was using that horrible pi

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So appears very Conbee specific

fair mountain
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i wonder why the Raspbee II works okay

jolly narwhal
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Because it isn't usb based

signal wraith
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I don't have it connected to a Pi. It's a small Ubuntu computer with an Intel chip. I had just not seen anything mentioned until I got on here to search.

jolly narwhal
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Usb interference isn't limited to pis beardmogi

signal wraith
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Right. I even set my sensor right next to it and it wouldn't connect. Nothing until I moved it away from the computer itself.

jolly narwhal
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Yeah, also never pair devices next to the coordinator

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Always pair in place

signal wraith
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Well I was just trying to debug. See if "interference" was an issue.

jolly narwhal
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Yeah, just a lot of people do pair like that by default

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Which is a horrible idea

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Mostly the same users who run only battery operated devices, no routers

signal wraith
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Any idea if my SonOff can be used as a router? Is that the right term?

jolly narwhal
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Yes, however the sonoff is the superior device of the two

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So I would rather use that as coordinator

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Unless it is actually broken, which is why you couldn't get it to work

fair mountain
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i am going to repurpose some of my sonoff zb 3.0s as routers i think

signal wraith
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I could get it to work. Everything connected. I setup automations. Was loving life. Turned out my sensor would only stay connected for a day or two. So I would have to pair them every couple of days.

fair mountain
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i had some aqara esnsors like that

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turns out they were bad

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probably because they were in my greenhouse

signal wraith
#

And it was all my sensors. 3 motion, 3 door, temp, and button.

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So I'm hoping the Conbee wont do that 🤞

fair mountain
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nah you'll have other issues with the conbee 😄

signal wraith
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So it's going to be like everything else 😆

jolly narwhal
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I have 80 routers and 40 end devices, never had a device disconnect here

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Running zigbee2mqtt and cc1352/cc2652

fair mountain
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lucky you @jolly narwhal

jolly python
molten linden
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I've started picking up a neighbor's bulb everytime I permit joins.

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after it joins I toggle it a few times to say hi. still don't know whose it is lol one time I got 2 of them

dusky hatch
jolly narwhal
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Always fun

austere patio
abstract wagon
#

@austere patio energy-scan resulted in 2%-5% on all common zigbee channels (15, 20 25)

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will try out the new stick and zigpy library tomorrow and report back. Thanks again

dusky hatch
brave mirage
#

Hello, where i can correctly report with Certain device type ? which is reporting incorrect values ?

sour shadow
#

If you're talking about reporting a problem, it depends on whether you're using ZHA, Zigbee2MQTT, or deCONZ

torn sparrow
#

I'm having some instability issues with my zigbee network. I think i found the culprit in some gledopto bulbs. They are (like most mains powered lights) configured as routers, but due to some software issues/bugs they can't act as routers and doesn't pass on any trafic.

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The easy fix should be to change them to enddevices instead, is that possible?
Running ZHA and a conbee (version 1)

brave mirage
sour shadow
limpid tulip
#

<rant>
Sigh, my Zigbee LQI's are down significantly in just a few months and most of them are < 130 even on close distances :/

The 2.4ghz frequency is a disaster right now. Living in large soviet era building. And there are many new APs, most of them from local crappy cable TV's devices. All spamming 2.4ghz and operating bandwidth 40Mhz. I don't care much about wifi (since 5Ghz is hilariously free) but the Zigbee network performance took quite a hit.
</rant>

Wyd? The only thing I think of is adding more ZB repeaters to fight it.

ivory hound
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@limpid tulip all works good?

limpid tulip
ivory hound
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lqi is not a very good measurement

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in your situation you can do only

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move to another channel less crowded

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your devices will need repairing

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speak with everybody to move all interferences

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or

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add more routers

covert matrix
#

Hey Guys any good Zigbee Clamp Meters ? or should i still sitck with Wifi ?

limpid tulip
# ivory hound or

yeah there is no less crowded channel left. Maybe e.g. in US where WiFi goes up to ch.11 putting ZB on 25, 26 would be an option. And I only did scan using phone app not the proper measurment tool that would probably discover other interference. If there was one slightly better channel there no guarantee that one of the APs doesn't switch to it one day since most of those are left on auto selection.

Most of those folks around are likely technologically illiterate - considering they didn't even bother to change their SSID advertising their crappy ISP and are mostly old folks. I don't know most of them that well to propose that. And with the exception of those who actually doesn't need wifi (or could switch to 5Ghz exclusively) it would be against their own interest.

That leaves me with less the ideal more routers/repeaters solution.
Yeah, thanks for the tip thou I was expecting nothing serious can be done about it. Just wanted to rant I guess 😉

ivory hound
#

depending on what you use, you can actually scan the channels

limpid tulip
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I use android app (manly WiFi analyser com.vrem.wifianalyser since it's foss).
Are there any apps that could pick up other interference?

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Most those scanning apps seem to differ with how theyrate each channel and what they recommend to switch to.

ivory hound
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@limpid tulip what integration you are using? and what coordinator?

limpid tulip
ivory hound
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ah i can't help you with that

#

i don't think that have anything to scan channels interference

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there is something for bellows

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and for zigpy-znp

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those can scan channels to see what is free

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or more free in your case

#

but deconz with conbee is the worst thing you could choose

brave mirage
#

can someone share little bit of light regarding this entities ? and what is their purpose ?

# 
Diagnostic
63eb84fe identify
63eb84fe basic lqi
63eb84fe basic rssi
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most of time they are all unavailable

tropic depot
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identify button will issue the identify command to the device. most devices will blink in response to it

tropic depot
fair mountain
molten linden
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OSS solutions are all based FW using SDK's released by SiLabs or TI. 🤷‍♂️ which control the low level stuff.

steady marsh
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hi, i'm quite new to home assistant and have a few questions about zigbee with the Aqara (WXKG11M) buttons. when i insert them via zha, i only get a strange display that i can't do anything with. the button can't be configured either and has a very strange name "unk_manufacturer unk_model", "unk_model by unk_manufacturer". does anyone have any tips? the home assistant docker version with a sonoff 3.0 coordinator is used.

tropic depot
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it's not pairing correctly

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are you following the pinned instructions?

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remove the device from HA

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wait about a minute

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reset the device (hold the button down for like 5-10s... it will blink several times when reset)

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click the add devices button in HA and keep pressing the button on the device every second or two until it finishes pairing

steady marsh
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in ZHA: add device -> start pairing mode for 5s press reset button -> strange output

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these are my steps

tropic depot
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i'm sorry. I can't read that

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I posted the procedure to follow above

steady marsh
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sorry forgot 2 translate

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have just translated it

tropic depot
steady marsh
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pressing the button when pairing helped. thank you very much 🙂

limpid tulip
# ivory hound but deconz with conbee is the worst thing you could choose

@ivory hound Thanks for the help I got, appreciate it.

In the end since everything still working despite network map looking terrible and stupid Ikea remotes draining battery I'll leave it at that for now. Don't fix what's not broken. I will play with channels one day when I decide to switch to z2m maybe... but with all the 2.4ghz congestion in here I don't see much light in the tunnel.

Moving coordinator to a better spot + dedicated router could improve situation a bit is my best guess.

austere patio
limpid tulip
austere patio
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I mean they're from the radio itself, it's about as accurate as you can get if you care about what the Conbee sees

limpid tulip
lilac wharf
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If you're in a particularly hostile environment as far as 2.4 GHz, you might want to consider Z-Wave

limpid tulip
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I have 67 zigbee devs by now so a bit late for that 😉

lilac wharf
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Ehh, sunk cost fallacy

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It would suck for sure though, won't deny that

austere patio
limpid tulip
austere patio
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Are your wireless access points on good channels (i.e. 1/6/11)?

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Oh, that's dense

limpid tulip
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(aside from the fact that it's not recommended bacause of some dev. compatybility)

dusty wharf
severe harbor
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i moved in to a new house and am having problems with zigbee devices falling off my network

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most recently ive reset my whole mesh and started slowly adding back devices

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i only have 8 devices currently enabled and 3 of them act as routers

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but i still have these devices falling off , i have one that recently fell off thats in the same room as my coordinator even

dusty wharf
severe harbor
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thanks ill give that a try

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i did change wifi setup when i moved as well so might be it

dusty wharf
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my experience is
the more light bulbs and plugs the better the experience

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especially plugs do help allot

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i got a really busy wifi neighborhood but with ~80 bulbs and plugs I got no problems

severe harbor
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in old house i had 30 some odd zigbee devices and had a problem with one bulb falling off here and there

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but i had same problem wifi was saturated , where i am now its not

uneven ruin
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I added bulbs recently and have more issues. Need to figure that out

severe harbor
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Mar 24 18:42:12 random zigbee2mqtt[280617]: Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-03-24 18:42:12: - PAN ID: configured=6754, adapter=6754
Mar 24 18:42:12 random zigbee2mqtt[280617]: Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-03-24 18:42:12: - Extended PAN ID: configured=00124b00237dfdd6, adapter=139d1b373af7c5a9
Mar 24 18:42:12 random zigbee2mqtt[280617]: Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-03-24 18:42:12: - Network Key: configured=01030507090b0d0f00020406080a0c0d, adapter=01030507090b0d0f00020406080a0c0d
Mar 24 18:42:12 random zigbee2mqtt[280617]: Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-03-24 18:42:12: - Channel List: configured=25, adapter=11
Mar 24 18:42:12 random zigbee2mqtt[280617]: Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-03-24 18:42:12: Please update configuration to prevent further issues.
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ooh never mind i just read i need to remove /var/lib/zigbee2mqtt/coordinator_backup.json.

austere patio
severe harbor
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it was because i didnt keep reading logs , i just had to dump the old coordinator_backup

uneven ruin
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how can I access energy_scan from zha?

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I'm running HomeAssistant OS and don't seem to have access to python via the SSH addon

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ok a little more google found a guide to install the tools needed

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ok apparently I picked the second worst channel possible

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I'm actually shocked how reliable its been then

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If I migrate to a new channel is it possible to at least backup the device names so everything remaps to HA easily?

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I don't mind doing the re-pair dance but writing down each name for each device will be a little annoying

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(I have like 85 devices)

harsh zenith
uneven ruin
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aquara sensors pair to the first thing they hear

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even it its a bad idea

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and they never let go

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unless you force them to repair

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it can take a few tries to find a good pairing sometimes

harsh zenith
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is there a way to not allow the usb stick to be an option for it after a forced repair?

uneven ruin
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in z2m I know you can

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not sure on zha

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oh wait

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yes

harsh zenith
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im using zigbee2mqtt

uneven ruin
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where you turn on "pair all" its actually a drop down and you can pick a device to activate

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Permit Join (all)

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drop down and pick permit join "my plug 2"

harsh zenith
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ah, so basically i would drop down and pick the closest plug to it? and let it pair to that?

uneven ruin
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yeah, it can still take a couple tries sometimes though

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aquara devices while cheap and work well can be very picky

harsh zenith
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gotcha. so i guess step 1 though is forcing it to forget?

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any insight on how to do that first step?

uneven ruin
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hold down button for 5 seconds

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light will blink 3 times or something like that

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blinks more when it pairs