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upbeat pecan
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It's saying that at column 11 in the "type" line the error is "mapping values are not allowed here"

raven jewel
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And use three backticks on a line before your code, and 3 after to format a code block. For bonus points, use three backticks and yaml to start the codeblock.

upbeat pecan
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testing123
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Huh, that's pretty nifty!

upbeat pecan
near echo
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Use an ide - like vscode even comes as addon to prevent this basic syntactical errors

mighty river
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hello. Does anyone know if I can pair a Sonoff SNZB-04 door sensor via a router, instead that directly to the coordinator? This thread says that this is not possible with SNZB-03 https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/6979 and I wonder if it is possible with 04, instead

austere patio
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All of the Sonoff sensors (really eWeLink) use the same firmware so I doubt that the SNZB-04 is an exception

molten linden
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^there firmware is 💯 too so no updates ever needed 😂🤦‍♂️

cerulean abyss
jovial aspen
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What sort of specs would a SBC need to run Z2M?

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I have a bunch of old Pi’s lying around (mostly 0W’s, but in a pinch a 2 or a 3)

vestal atlas
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You can probably run it fine on any pi. Updating and such will be a lot quicker on newer once tho

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I've not tried it on anything older than Pi 3, but for a while I was running it on a Siemens IOT2050 that is quite slow too.

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If you plan to run it long term, booting the PI from an SSD is recommended, or do frequent backups 😬

jolly narwhal
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I ran it on a pi1 for a while

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But, just buy a Poe coordinator

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And run Z2M anywhere

jovial aspen
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Yeah that’s an option

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More $$$ tho

sour shadow
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Home automation is a money pit

jovial aspen
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It sure is

jolly narwhal
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Eh, compared to my bulbs it is nothing

grizzled jetty
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I bougth an slaesh zigbee stick and configured it in HA. i do however see a lot of issues with the zigbee2mqtt broker. How do i solve these?
I've setup the config to use /dev/by-id/ instead of /dev/usb0
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-01-24 12:10:11: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-01-24 12:10:11: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-01-24 12:10:11: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-01-24 12:10:11: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-01-24 12:10:11: Error: SRSP - ZDO - startupFromApp after 40000ms
at Timeout._onTimeout (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/waitress.ts:64:35)
at listOnTimeout (internal/timers.js:557:17)
at processTimers (internal/timers.js:500:7)

lilac wharf
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I wonder at what point the unit changes from milliseconds to seconds

sour shadow
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♾️

jolly narwhal
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milliseconds is the superior format, pisses off the imperial users

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HOW MANY FEET OF SECONDS IS THAT ?

sour shadow
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Eh, go with femtoseconds

foggy gyro
sour shadow
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Looks like a strange version of the Fibaro Eye of Sauron

foggy gyro
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Neat device looks like the only option, other than homekit, is still z wave

sour shadow
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There's some not quite as good Zigbee multi sensors

jolly narwhal
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Multisensor < multiple sensors

foggy gyro
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Not quite the same but still useful it seems

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I assume I can run a zwave addon and zigbee2mqtt on the same pi right?

sour shadow
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Sure

foggy gyro
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Might just do that thanks

bleak cave
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I've been having major headaches with Tradfri switches in my home automation setup. I am using a TI CC2652, but had the same issues with my older CC2531 before. Once everything is paired, it works great. Until the battery runs out. Simply replacing the battery will not reconnect any of my switches (both the toggle switches and also the round five-button switches) to my ZHA network. I have to also put the device back in pairing mode and add them as if they were a new device. And oftentimes I have to repeat this several times before all functions work again. I'm about to give up on Tradfri devices and only use Aqara devices (which work great without these issues). Any additional pointers?

jolly narwhal
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I have two tradfri buttons

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I have yet to change battery in two years

bleak cave
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Lucky you 🙂

jolly narwhal
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I'm gonna guess you have coverage issues, but hard to say Shrug

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I've replaced 3 batteries in 40+ devices in 3 years

bleak cave
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I don't think that's it. I am using Tube's CC2652 device with the external antenna and live in an 800 square feed one-bedroom apartment.

jolly narwhal
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With how many routers?

bleak cave
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One coordinator, no repeaters. All Zigbee devices are battery powered.

jolly narwhal
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So not great

bleak cave
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15 devices i think

jolly narwhal
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And you have done interference readings?

bleak cave
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It really is a tiny apartment and the coordinator is kinda in the center. And none of my Aqara devices present the same issues, even though some of them are farther away from the coordinator than the Tradfri switches. I had done interference tests in the past (guided by pudly) and it seemed ok. Will repeat them.

jolly narwhal
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There was a known battery drain issue that @vestal atlas mentioned

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But I have no issues with cc2652 + z2m

bleak cave
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Battery drain may only be half the issue -- the devices not reconnecting automatically after switching batteries is more annoying 🙂

jolly narwhal
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Yeah, I've never had that issue, but again, I haven't needed to change a battery in them yet

lean echo
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is there any difference between zigbee2mqtt groups and HA groups?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

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A lot

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One is a ZigBee group, one is just a grouping of devices

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One means sending one command, one means sending X commands

lean echo
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so then is preferable to have zigbee groups than HA, right?

sour shadow
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Generally, yes

lean echo
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ok thanks, it's what I thought, but I saw a collapsing card the other day in HACS and it looked easier with HA groups as it'd add the members of it automatically, but hey... I won't be changing groups everyday 🙂

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I'm very new here as you can tell, but is it possible to update the firmware of LIDL strip leds without their hub?

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I see it's possible for Ikea and Hue, but haven't seen about any other brands

sour shadow
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I haven't seen that they've released firmware updates for those

lean echo
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oh ok... it's just that when I click on the OTA from z2m it only checks for Ikea stuff I have installed

sour shadow
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It only checks for things it can update

lean echo
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Thanks for that!

shrewd crypt
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Can anyone recommend a known, working combination of RGBW strip and connector for use with GLEDOPTO rgbw controller?

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Is there a better channel for this?

paper sinew
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Hi everyone. I am currently running a RaspBee 1 with the DeconZ integration and I will upgrade to the ConBee II shortly. Should I take the opportunity and refactor everything into using the ZHA automation? Does it provide major benefits to the DeconZ integration?

lean echo
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As far as I saw online, people say that zigbee2mqtt usually provides more sensors than ZHA, but for sure someone can tell you better than me

wicked raptor
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I've got an ikea e1743 that I paired with my husbzb-1 but it looks like somehow it paired with like half of my other zigbee lights as well... Can I break those connections in the zha browser somehow?

jolly python
austere patio
wicked raptor
lean echo
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Why would you like to break a possible connection path?

wicked raptor
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with no automation enabled, pressing the button turns on or off 4 of my lights that seem to have all bound to this switch rather than have it just pared to the hub as a standalone switch I can use for automations

tame bane
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I've got some Zigbee smart plugs (Sengled E1C-NB7). Some of them report power measurement data just fine, others seem not to. If I manually poke at the cluster attributes, they emit reasonable data, but it's not being continuously emitted for some reason. Any ideas what could be up?

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I'm using the Phoscon RaspBeeII on an RPi4B, with ZHA.

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(side q: I'm not familiar with all the details of zigbee.... in general, are the attributes emitted by devices when a value change is seen, or does some external service like ZHA have to poll them periodically?)

austere patio
tame bane
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Aha... that did it. I suppose ZHA is just configuring the device using some cluster command?

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(Thanks, by the way. Now I know what "reconfigure device" is for...)

austere patio
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There's a Configure_Reporting ZDO command but it's not currently exposed (since it's not a ZCL command)

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Not ZDO, my bad. It's just a general ZCL command. Still not exposed though.

tame bane
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Ack, thanks. Hadn't heard the term ZDO before now. I'm very much a n00b when it comes to Zigbee but learning as I go. I had poked around all of the attributes and commands and couldn't find anything beyond some "fast poll" and "default reporting interval" stuff, but the plug in question seemed not to support those attributes and commands.

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Of course there's some other unexposed command. I was poking through the ZCL documentation and it mentioned a "start sampling" command which didn't appear in the list of commands exposed via ZHA. Seems a likely candidate...

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Anyhow thanks again for the quick help, much appreciated!

austere patio
little cobalt
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hi guys, want to ask a bit for zigbee protocol, conbee 2, aqara hub m2 and Texas Instruments CC2531
I use cc2531 for my current zigbee gateway, it working for my local brand (arbit) motion sensor and door sensor. But i want to upgrade my gateway.
Tried both aqara hub m2 and conbee 2 but having trouble connecting my old sensor to my new gateway.
is zigbee have like a specific frequency something or it should have work as long it's zigbee network?

jolly narwhal
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Drop the hub, and definitely get rid of the cc2531, Conbee should work, but it isn't great

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What integration are you using? Zigbee2mqtt / zha / deconz ?

little cobalt
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i used z2mqtt with cc2531, right now im open with anything if i can connect this conbee to my sensor

jolly narwhal
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Is that the only ZigBee device you have?

little cobalt
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i have motion sensor, door sensor and temp sensor, it work with cc2531

jolly narwhal
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So, all battery devices, and no mesh

little cobalt
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yes

jolly narwhal
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Not a great starting point

little cobalt
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oh and light switches

jolly narwhal
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Then Those might act as routers

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But no idea if migrating from cc2531 - Conbee is possible with z2m

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But repairing is simple enough

little cobalt
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im starting the gateway upgrade because im will be moving from apartment to landhome

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so i thought i will need better gateway

jolly narwhal
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Well, cc2531 is horrible

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So almost anything is an upgrade

obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: atxbyea
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

Command '.zigbee' was invoked by: atxbyea
little cobalt
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im having hard time trying a new gateway since smarthome especially diy not really common in my country

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right now im stuck with either at cc2531, aqara m2 and conbee 2

jolly narwhal
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Conbee would probably be the better of those three

little cobalt
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im downloading the windows app to update the conbee right now, there is a thread about some bug when update it via home assistant integration

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maybe it will fix

cerulean abyss
little cobalt
cerulean abyss
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And that stuff

little cobalt
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indonesia

cerulean abyss
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Unsure how fast post will be there (from the USA). Definitely recommend getting something 2652 based

little cobalt
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i will try to get it, and while at it still trying to find out solution

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my conbee channel at 0, maybe that is the problem?

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tried changing it to 25 but endless loading

cerulean abyss
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I think some devices don’t like it

sour shadow
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That's 26 you're thinking of

cerulean abyss
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Whoops

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They’re all numbers in the end though right 😅

little cobalt
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sigh i can't change the channel

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i think there is a problem on the conbee itself

willow bronze
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Does ZHA support the class of IR blasters

ivory hound
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doubt it

analog ember
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I've just paired my ikea fyrtur blind to zigbee2mqtt (running on ZZH!) But my blind entity doesn't get exposed in HA

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I do see it's battery & linkquality, but the blind itself is nowhere to be seen.

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I repaired my whole network a few days ago, before that the blind was working fine.

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Tried repairing, rebooting HA, reboothing z2m, and no available updates anywhere

ivory hound
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look in zigbee2mqtt what it expose

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look in ha if entity's are disabled

round geyser
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I'm no longer seeing this in the zigpy 0.43.0 release, which will hopefully be included in the next Home Assistant release. My network comes up in perhaps 10-20 seconds after HA starts up. Nice!

jolly narwhal
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Oh wow 3-5 minutes

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That was horrible

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It's been 5-15 seconds here for the last three years of zigbee2mqtt

ivory hound
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if that fails remove it from home assistant it will reappear

austere patio
vale frost
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Hello, I have a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus connected to a VM on my Synology running HA. Using the ZHA integration I paired an Aqara door sensor and both the battery status and sensor status entities show up, but that's where the good news ends. I don't actually get a value for the battery and the sensor status is on/off instead of open/closed. Sensor status does not update from "off" condition. I tried reconfiguring and repairing a few times now. Always pairs without issue but no updates to the entities.

sour shadow
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binary_sensor entities are always on or off

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You can use customize to change the string in the UI

vale frost
sour shadow
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How does your mesh look?

austere patio
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How long has it been joined to your network? It'll send a Xiaomi heartbeat about once an hour with battery info.

vale frost
round geyser
vale frost
sour shadow
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Is it in another room? Do you at least have your Zigbee stick not on a USB 3.0 port and on a USB extension cable?

vale frost
jolly narwhal
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I'm fascinated by how many people are using a ZigBee stick with a single battery operated devices recently

vale frost
sour shadow
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8 feet should be ok

vale frost
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I do have some Phillips hue bulbs and a hub, I haven't tried to pair those yet.

round geyser
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zigpy startup time

vale frost
sour shadow
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You've done an energy scan and ensured you're in a clear channel?

vale frost
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No...could you point me to some documentation on that?

sour shadow
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The pinned messages

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There should be a mention of energy scan

austere patio
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That's only for Silicon Labs (EZSP) radios

round geyser
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I'm curious in practice how much a "clear channel" matters. 2.4GHz is so crowded for me there's nothing actually clear. I found a vast improvement once I hit a tipping point of mains devices acting as repeaters.

jolly narwhal
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It certainly helps

austere patio
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If your coordinator is right next to a 2.4GHz router on WiFi channel 3, it'll make a difference. It definitely won't hurt, especially with potentially old-stock Aqara devices with nearly dead batteries.

rapid skiff
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Or turn off all your wifi stuff and see what channels have the least interference

jolly narwhal
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Now do overlap scanning, channel layout and power control for 1500 APs

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Just to induce more self suffering

round geyser
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I have 3x unifi APs at home so devices are nearly all on 5GHz. At my parent's place, we want to cover outside so it's 4 APs and we have to use 1 / 6 / 11. I am about to set up a zigbee network there so I may try channel 25 for it.

austere patio
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Can't you alternate 1/6/1/6, as long as no two using the same channel overlap?

rapid skiff
rapid skiff
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Since zigbee is all on the same channel over the entire house, it should be seperated from the wifi channels

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You can always turn down the power on your AP's too, or let the controller pick whats best

jolly narwhal
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This is why we do power control

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Reduce overlapping is an art form

vale frost
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So first I just swapped extension cables. Going to try again, but just noticed that the Synology Virtual USB Controller is using USB 3.0, probably the problem?

austere patio
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If it's a USB 2.0 cable it's probably not an issue. Run the energy scan to be sure.

rapid skiff
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USB 3.0 port is only an issue if its plugged directly into to it. Using an extension cable gets rid of the interference

rapid skiff
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Whats a good reporting interval for a temp sensor? The hue sensors default to one hour in Z2M

jolly narwhal
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Wherever the change is significant

rapid skiff
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Oh okay, so the sensor itself sends out a packet when either the minimum change has been exceded or at a maximum time interval

austere patio
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Subject to the minimum and maximum reporting intervals

rapid skiff
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So I'll have it report every 5 minutes max, or a change of 0.1 C and go from there

jolly narwhal
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That sounds excessive

rapid skiff
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Oh yeah that would be, sorry I don't deal in C lol

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Probably 0.5 C then

analog ember
vale frost
austere patio
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What does the full graph look like?

obsidian sandalBOT
vale frost
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I forgot we don't post code here.

austere patio
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So the default of 15 isn't that different

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Looks like you have WiFi networks on 1, 6, and 11 nearby

vale frost
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The synology is near a Unifi AP and the router which has a 2.4GHz network turned on for device compatibility. Also have a Roku which always has some wifi channel working.

austere patio
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Since you don't really have a network then switching to 20 won't be that big of a hassle

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There's no way to do it with ZHA after a network has been formed so you'll either have to do a backup, edit the channel, and restore

vale frost
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What if I just start from scratch. Since I'm just starting out, I'm not worried about losing any progress. Remove the integration, etc...?

austere patio
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ZHA uses the network settings on your stick

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So removing and re-adding the integration won't change them

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Then just drop the above config into your HA config file (you can omit the channels key) and it'll form a new network

nova flint
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Humm.. A confusing situation:
I've got ZHA uninstalled from my HA instance (replaced with z2m).
Just noticed my logfile's been growing exponentially since I uninstalled it (and restarted the whole Pi4 afterwards).. The culprit?

Failed to reconnect
21:20:43 – (ERROR) /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/zigpy_znp/zigbee/application.py - message first occurred at 24 January 2022, 16:33:54 and shows up 20598 times
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WHYYY? 😄

austere patio
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That package won't load unless ZHA is still around

nova flint
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It doesn't show up as disabled (or at all) in the integrations list though

austere patio
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Do you have a zha key in your config file?

nova flint
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Double-checked, just a few straggling broken automations using domain: zha devices, but nothing apart from those

vale frost
austere patio
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Tried changing the battery in the Aqara sensor?

vale frost
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I was just thinking that. I checked last night with a DMM and battery was over 3V

austere patio
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Open circuit voltage doesn't mean much

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If it immediately drops to below the working range the moment something starts drawing current, it's a dead battery

vale frost
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true, I'll have to get some, no spares

austere patio
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Yeah, the door sensors use something smaller than the common CR2032

vale frost
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Is there a way to confirm which channel the USB dongle is using?

vale frost
austere patio
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ZHA defaults to 15, though if you reset the NVRAM and updated the config file, it'll be using whatever channel you put in there

vale frost
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That's what I want to confirm.

austere patio
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Then check the log file, it logs the stick's channel, not what's in your config file

vale frost
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Restarting now

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this is all I am finding in the log

2022-01-25 11:42:58 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.api] Sending request: SYS.Ping.Req()
2022-01-25 11:42:58 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.api] Received command: SYS.Ping.Rsp(Capabilities=<MTCapabilities.APP_CNF|GP|UTIL|ZDO|AF|SYS: 1625>)

austere patio
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It's at the very very top, will contain Channel:

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And all of your other network settings

vale frost
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found it, Channel 20

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should the network be 0x0000?

austere patio
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NWK is the address of your device

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Since it's the coordinator, it's 0x0000

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PAN ID and Extended PAN ID are your network IDs

vale frost
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got it

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Well I guess that leaves a battery change. Have to order, store prices are ridiculous.

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Is Phillips Hue Zigbee or Z-wave?

jolly narwhal
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ZigBee

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And some are Bluetooth

nova flint
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Humm, unignored ZHA from integrations, restarted again (instantly popped up with another "Couldn't connect" error), re-ignored the integration as it detected my dongle again, restarted again and no more errors :S No clue what was broken, but.. At least the logspam is gone

dapper moth
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And some have both Zigbee and Bluetooth (dunno if it's all, or only some)

nova flint
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@dapper moth Pretty much all the newer ones are Zigbee+BT, older ones were Zigbee only

vale frost
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Ok I'll test later with a phillips hue and see if I can get that on the network. At least narrow down what the problem might be.

dapper moth
nova flint
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And no Hue bulbs without zigbee either 🙂

vale frost
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So I pulled a Hue bulb off the Hue hub and tried to pair it with the Sonoff Zigbee USB / ZHA and it didn't make it past the interviewing phase. Also, found out that the Hue hub was operating on Channel 20 which I had just switched to, it's on 15 now. I was able to re-pair the hue bulb to the Hue hub after some finagling, because it wasn't visible to Hue or ZHA. No other Zigbee devices to try.

wary harbor
molten linden
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🤐

lilac wharf
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It's pricey because it uses only the finest organic, non-GMO silicon

rapid skiff
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Oh boy big box of sensors came in today

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All Aqara (xiaomi), seems good so far

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All picked up in Z2M, although the temp/water sensors have a "null" battery power

rapid skiff
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They are slowly reporting the battery status so thats good

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I really like how they look and feel, very premium feeling for a decent price.

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Now to program the magic cube...

rapid skiff
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Up to 20 devices in Z2M, pretty good for starting this a few weeks ago

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Still need to add a bunch of lights too

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Do devices change which router they are connected to when experiencing a low signal or do they need to be re-paired

molten linden
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Devices with decent firmware should

gaunt forge
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But many devices don’t and require the connected router to be shutdown and then repaired…

jolly python
hollow crystal
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Morning all, if I switch from ZHA to Z2M will I need to setup all my devices again or will it remember the config?

sour shadow
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You'll need to set it all up again

hollow crystal
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I like ZHA to be honest but I've hit a brick wall trying to get a Boost functionality working on a Hive thermostat, I can see examples of getting it running on Z2M

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Currently trying to replicate the same functionality via an automation and it's just hacky, works (or will) but doesn't show the same on the reciever so kids don't know it's boosted and they run it again etc, if I ran it natively via Zigbee it'd show the time remaining/temp etc on the reciever

mighty river
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Hello one and all,
I have setup zigbee2mqtt, which is running and publishing, but my home assistant instance is not picking up the entities in mosquito....any tips please?

sour shadow
mighty river
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Thanks, I've read this, and everything is set ok, my zigbee2mqtt config states homeassistant: true, has my dedicated mqtt user, and I see the add-on publishing, just not getting through to home assistant

sour shadow
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Did you set up MQTT in YAML or the UI, or both?

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(in Home Assistant that is)

mighty river
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I set up mosquito via the UI... integrations > Mosquitto

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Enable new entities is checked to on

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Should the server defined in the zigbee2mqtt config be mqtt://core-mosquitto:1883 or mqtt://ip_address:1883 ?

jolly narwhal
mighty river
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Ok, so I set mosquito up via the UI so it should be mqtt://core-mosquitto:1883
Which is how I have zigbee2mqtt set

flint cedar
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Hello guys and gals! Did any of you saw the zigbee Sonoff hum/temp sensor and the pir motion sensor working differently after the 2021.12.7 version of HA? I mean, the latest updates i made .8 and .9 made those two devices to stop working properly, then i tried to add them again through my conbee ii and this time the don't even shown the right manufacturer, neither sonoff or ewelink as they showed before, but "unk_manufacturer". They showed a huge drop on battery, the hum/temp sensor get the temperature updated, but the humidity doesn't, they lose connection to the system (i also got a zigbee relay that is acting as router too which is pretty close to them tho so its not a wifi channel or distance issue)

gaunt forge
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Hello good people,

Can someone please give me a hand with what I‘m trying to do:

I have a Zigbee network (36 devices) running in my apartment. Coordinator is a Zigstar v4 USB Stick (2652P) connected via USB to my HA server and using Zigbee2MQTT.
That’s all working great.

Now I want to add some Zigbee devices in my garage two floors below (Supposedly neither the Zigstar nor any routers on the existing mesh will reach down there with enough signal strength) so I was thinking of adding a Zigbee-LAN-gateway there (Ethernet is available in the garage)

Can I use the gateway as a Zigbee router (over Ethernet) with the Zigbee2MQTT?
If so, how would I add it to the Z2M?

Or do I need to install the LAN-gateway as second coordinator adding another Zigbee-Network and then manage this with ZHA? (Because Zigbee2MQTT is already managing the ZigStar network?)

Your feedback is very much appreciated 👍🏼

jolly narwhal
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That would be another instance of z2m

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And another mesh

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You are better off adding more routers between

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And extending it

gaunt forge
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Cant do that as the apartment between mine and the garage is belonging to someone else.

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That’s why I think I might need to add another gateway / another mesh.
So to understand correctly:
A router (regardless if LAN or USB) would need Zigbee contact to the existing mesh?
So the LAN-Interface what not really be of any use?

A second coordinator would span it‘s own network and require either a second Z2M instance or a ZHA-instance but besides keeping track which device is managed by which coordinator this should not have any disadvantages, correct?

sour shadow
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If you can get wired network there then you can certainly do that, and it'll work fine

near echo
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well, there is nothing like "second" co-ordinator. it just a complete separate zigbee network running on separate channel. But you ideally wouldn't want that and would only cause confusion in future while devices. 2652 is a good co-ordinator, just add the router strategically to expand your existing zigbee network

rapid skiff
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You would place that directly below a router upstairs for the wireless link

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I don't think zigbee works like standard wifi access points where you could use an ethernet coordinator as a router

jolly python
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they're replaced by a new version i think

vagrant dragon
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Any good tips how i get my zigbee2mqtt + CC2652RB pair devices working again.

violet dagger
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again?

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then do what you did the first time

vagrant dragon
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Inside couple month my one temperature sensor (Xiaomi WSDCGQ11LM) and one button (xioami wxkg01lm) disconnect my network

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they shows normally on zigbee2mqtt web userface

random pasture
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probably standard advice but I experienced troubles when I simply relocated the pi with dongle and it suffered from interference, so did that change ?

vagrant dragon
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but not get any connection (no signal strench or battery status)

violet dagger
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did you try checking the batteries?

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repairing them if the batteries are good?

vagrant dragon
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i delete both my sensors and i try to pair them again, but not get them showing any way back to zigbee2mqtt web interface

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batteries are changed and both machine leds blinks etc when i try pair them with reset button

jolly narwhal
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And how many routers do you have?

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And what kind

vagrant dragon
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only one that CC2652RB or if i understand right that is coordinator and i dont have any routres

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routers

jolly narwhal
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So no routers

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Not great

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Unless you live in one room

vagrant dragon
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here is my map

jolly narwhal
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What the hell is that site

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And stop using it

vagrant dragon
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That temp sensor and button works like a charm about 5months

obsidian sandalBOT
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Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

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vagrant dragon
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and have signal about 75-90

vagrant dragon
jolly narwhal
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So no routers, and some poor signals

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That looks Finnish

vagrant dragon
jolly narwhal
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Kaksi prosesseri hyvää

vagrant dragon
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No routers yeah. Not ever think need them because all sensors works so good long time 🙂

jolly narwhal
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I'd invest in some routers either outlets or continuous on bulbs and repair tbh

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Ikea tradfri are cheap and great

vagrant dragon
jolly narwhal
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I played in a Finnish wow guild for 7 years, i mostly know bad words

vagrant dragon
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many thanks for tips. Need to buy some router then and think this problem again after that 😄 Read some topics that Xiaomi not have totally compatible protocol with "normal" zigbee and thats why some disconnect problems exist, but some sensors work like a charm and thats why not want to change them and xiaomi sensor are quite easy to get Finland and price is ok

jolly narwhal
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You need to repair after getting routers, aqara do not change parent

vagrant dragon
jolly narwhal
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You are fluent in English compared to some finns i know

vagrant dragon
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how about CC2652RB firmware, i buy that stick slae.sh january 2021

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is any reason change that firmware

jolly narwhal
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Well, upgrading firmware is a good idea

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You are roughly one year behind now

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You can read the release notes for firmware

vagrant dragon
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yeah my stick running my raspi4 and not want to remove that there because think to update that my windows pc. More happy to graphic interface :p

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of course now when i get that router i can unplug that because i need to do whole zigbee network from zero 🙂

jolly narwhal
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You would update from the raspberry pi though

vagrant dragon
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try to search firmware update instructions and silently hope there is some interface inside zigbee2mqtt web interface where i can firmware update that stick, but that not happen 😄

jolly python
vagrant dragon
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How about Philips Hue series. Think to buy couple lamps and buttons Philips series can i use Philips bridge --> router.

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or if that better go example with that Ikea router

vagrant dragon
jolly narwhal
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You don't need the bridge @vagrant dragon

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Just the bulbs and outlets

random pasture
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about hue lamps .. I inserted yesterday one in my socket and couldn't pair with the zigbee dongle on the pi it until I first paired it in hue (i have a bridge), then remove it from hue, then pair it with sonoff zigbee dongle, is that normal ?

jolly narwhal
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Never seen that

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Then again, I only have 3 hue bulbs

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And a plethora of tradfri

random pasture
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ok, just a slight annoyance ... maybe if I updated also first the firmware it goes away 😄

jolly narwhal
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What stick is it?

random pasture
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sonoff zigbee usb dongle plus

jolly narwhal
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Should be fine

vagrant dragon
jolly narwhal
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Ye

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It will connect to your coordinator

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And talk to zigbee2mqtt

random pasture
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i heard the usb charger of ikea is also fine (and you get a charger for it) 😉

vagrant dragon
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nice i use that kind of sockets quite much and thats easiest change couple oldest sockets to that Ikea model

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Mostly only use MQTT wlan (Tasmota) devices (40pcs) Only reason Zigbee battery devices on my system 🙂

vagrant dragon
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thanks again @jolly narwhal now Ikea sockets and couple buttons are ordered. I think be back here when i try to get my zigbee mesh back to working 😄

jolly narwhal
gaunt forge
gaunt forge
# rapid skiff Still new at this but from my limited tested, you might be interested in a stron...

@rapid skiff I will give that a try. The ZigStar V4 can also be flashed with a router firmware and has a great reach with its 2652P and up to 20dbm gain. However it needs to through 2 concrete floors in my case. As I only need a door sensor, a motion sensor and maybe a bulb in the garage it’s probably more reliable to simple have a separate Zigbee network in the Garage and go to HA via LAN from the coordinator in the garage…

nova flint
# jolly narwhal You are fluent in English compared to some finns i know

As a fellow finn, I can attest that the scale of English fluency is stupidly wide in Finland 😄 There's people who can barely say hello, then there's people who'd easily pass as native speakers. Both ends working in the same company, both required to interact with customers in English on a daily basis 😄

gaunt forge
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Thanks for your thoughts on this 👍🏼

nova flint
sour shadow
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I ran two Z2M setups for a while, and they document how to do it

gaunt forge
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I‘m thinking of using ZHA for the garage coordinator but I‘ll also check out a second Z2M instance.

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Just purchased the Tubesz LAN gateway PoE 👍🏼

sour shadow
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You get one instance of ZHA, built into HA

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If you want another ZHA, you have to run a separate HA instance

tropic depot
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For now 😛

sour shadow
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ORLY?

tropic depot
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there may be some things that change in the next few months

sour shadow
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Ooooh

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That should prove quite interesting

gaunt forge
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Yes. Using a second Z2M seems easy, looks like I just need to change the basetopic for the second one.

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When I compared ZHA to Z2M a few weeks ago (I moved to the ZigStar V4 2652P ditching my Conbee II and the DeConz addon) I liked Z2M much better so I might stay on it for the second coordinator as well.
(I know ZHA is „official“ and preferred by the HA team but Z2M seems way more flexible)

ivory hound
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nobody here judges you

sour shadow
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Of course we do... it's important to get the order of milk and tea correct

gaunt forge
jolly python
nova flint
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I've had a lot of trouble with the Hue Tap switches both when I was still using the Hue Bridge and now that everything's on Zigbee2MQTT 😄 Friends of Hue greenpower switches, never tried them.

jolly python
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Hope its equally reliable in zha, i am about to switch

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These things are way to expensive to not work properly

nova flint
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You might be out of luck with that, though (can't say for certain as I don't use ZHA myself). I see an open Pull Request in zigpy about adding support for ZGP (Zigbee Green Power). https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/pull/656

normal plaza
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I have a bunch of these https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/MCCGQ11LM.html#xiaomi-mccgq11lm , and all of a sudden, with no changes made, none of them seem to be sending out their state. They are still listed and "pretending" to be alive, but if I remove the magnet, they don't change. None of my other Zigbee-stuff, including other Xiaomi stuff, has problems. Only that specific model.

tropic depot
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no ZGP in ZHA yet

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I was trying to reply looks like discord had a brief hiccup

nova flint
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@jolly python ^ Better go with Zigbee2MQTT for now then 😄

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Yeah, Discord is being dodgy for me too

jolly python
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Also that your Zigbee network does not go offline when you restart home assistant is a good point

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And you do not have the problem to route your usb coordinator through kvm (HA runs in vm in kvm) if you use a docker container right?

nova flint
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I wouldn't know about that USB routing issue, I've got my Z2M running on the OS without containers 😄

balmy crescent
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hi, anyone here uses Aqara Mini switch with Conbee 2?

sour shadow
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ZHA? Zigbee2MQTT? deCONZ?

balmy crescent
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i reinstalled HA and now i cannot find the switch on ZHA or deCONZ

sour shadow
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You should only be using one of those, not both

balmy crescent
sour shadow
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Are you trying to pair it within range of the mesh?

balmy crescent
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after reinstall I was using ZHA again but it didnt find the switch so was trying deC

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both are within 6 feet

sour shadow
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  1. Stick is on a USB extension cable?
  2. Stick is not in a USB 3.0 port?
  3. No obstructions between the stick and switch?
balmy crescent
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i was also using Sata 3 cable with SSD but now switched to SD card just to eliminate signal issue

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i will try USB 2 port now

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brb

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no luck, I'm on deCONZ dashboard, click add switch, scan is started - on Aqara mini switch I press the reset key for 3 seconds

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it flashes 3 or 4 times and nothing after that

tropic depot
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you need to press the switch button for ~10 seconds

balmy crescent
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just tried that as well, no luck. even tried around 15 seconds.. it stops flashing after that

jolly python
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What is the recommended installation of zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
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What do you mean?

silent lintel
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Wondering if you guys can help me solve the mystery of the missing Z2M sensors
Out of 20 devices, I have 3 Aqara sensors ( 1 door, 1 temp, 1 motion ) that keep falling off my network.
I see them in the map on the Z2M front end, but in HA devtools the state never changes
I tried to re-pair one of them, which was successful, and then it goes away again.
These all have fresh batteries in them
Running Z2M (1.18.3) + HA (v.2021.12.10) in docker containers on a NUC with a ZZH! connected to a USB extension cable, and 3 x CC2351 routers

gaunt forge
jolly narwhal
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Texas instruments crew representing y'all

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And zigbee2mqtt goaFeelsLoveMan

balmy crescent
obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

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hollow crystal
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Can't say about it long term but I went for a Sonoff ZigBee 3.0 USB dongle, it works happily with ZHA and Z2M and has dealt with my random array of devices (Smartthings, Hive Heating, Develo Motion and even some god old Swann motion sensor) with much less hassle. It's tucked into the back of my server under the stairs and it doesn't have any drop outs etc.

jaunty stream
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I recently got some zigbee sengled led lights. I like the colors and they seem to be working well, but I can't seem to get the lights to just be a normal white like when I first plugged them in. Anyone have any insight into how get it working?

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I've tried setting the RGB color to a variety of values, also tried the color temp settings, both just seem to set it to some non-white color.

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I'm using the deCONZ integration if it matters.

jaunty stream
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Doing some additional reading, should I expect to see a color temp slider in the UI for the above?

rapid skiff
rapid skiff
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It's funny because I had the opposite experience, with the sengled app I couldn't get the color I wanted

jaunty stream
rapid skiff
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I use Z2M, control is done in HA

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I used the rgb card modified for white values, then switched to the adaptive lighting plugin

jaunty stream
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ok, thanks; I'm wondering if I'm running into some odd limitation or bug with deCONZ. Even in the web ui that comes with deCONZ I can't see to get the white colors. Maybe I should switch to Z2M.

rapid skiff
jaunty stream
rapid skiff
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rgb-light-card is pretty nice for controlling lights manually

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You can do - kelvin: 4000 to set a specific color temp

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Which is nice because I can use the same thing for different brand bulbs

gaunt forge
# balmy crescent which options are there for Z2M? possible to get a product name for AmazonUK?

@balmy crescent I ordered this one: https://zig-star.com/projects/zigbee-stick-v4/
Also available on Tindie.
Mine was shipped from Germany and I got it within two days. It’s a very nice stick but in the end pretty much every C2652P based stick should give you good results.
For the garage I ordered the LAN-Coordinator from TubeSZ but this gets shipped from the states so it‘ll take some time to arrive.

jolly python
# sour shadow What do you mean?

Sorry my discord wasn‘t working anymore yesterday. I mean the (recomended?) way of the installation (of zigbee2mqtt), directly in HA or docker container or directly in linux.

sour shadow
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Whatever works for you ultimately - my personal preference is Docker

jolly python
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How is your backup strategy

sour shadow
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I put all my Docker stuff under /docker

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/docker/config - compose file and related stuff
/docker/zigbee2mqtt - Z2M config folder
/docker/homeassistant - HA config folder
etc etc
jolly python
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Okay i will look into this

candid merlin
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Is there any difference between a sonoff zigbee 3.0 and Conbee 2 in terms of what devices they support?
I want to buy a zigbee smart switch, but when I ask customer service, they say it only supports Conbee 2. Is this legit?

violet dagger
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device support is related to the software you choose, not hardware

sour shadow
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Though, the stick can make a difference to the speed and reliability of the mesh

candid merlin
violet dagger
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who are they?

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there's a big difference between what "they" say is "official" and what is possible

candid merlin
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It's a Danish company who sells smart switches. A small webshop

sour shadow
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They're confused

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I suspect it's purely a case of we know it works with this commercial product

violet dagger
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they have no idea

sour shadow
violet dagger
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there are lists for each software

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sometimes they overlap, sometimes they don't

sour shadow
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Except ZHA, which mostly "just works"

violet dagger
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"mostly" meaning 40% of the time 🤣

vestal atlas
candid merlin
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Great, that confirms my suspicion 😅

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Thanks!

violet dagger
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DYOR!

scarlet vigil
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Recently switched from SmartThings to ZHA, and everything is running fine. 8 Xiomi motion sensors all connected with ease. However one of them had become unavailable. I re-added it and it works again, but it's gone unavilable again. I think the hardware is okay, as it was working fine with SmartThings before

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Doing "reconfigure" doesn't seem to do anything, and neither does waking the device with a press in the pinhole

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Anything else I can try?

jolly narwhal
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How many routers do you have @scarlet vigil ?

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Over what area

scarlet vigil
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I've got the co-ordinator, and then 15 bulbs and plugs as routers. Including one in the room with this sensor. Only a small house. 4 rooms upstairs and down. At least one router in each room

jolly narwhal
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Then should be fine

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Verify the map

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What sensor connects to what router

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And don't turn off bulbs by switch

jolly python
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Maybe a Battery change can help

coarse prism
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Heyo, I'm having trouble integrating nedis thermostats into HA. My setup is as follows:

  • Raspberry Pi 4B rev1.4
    -- running Docker with the following containers
    --- Home Assistant (With HACS, no Supervisor)
    --- deCONZ
    --- planned: zigbee2mqtt
    Attached to the Raspi is a RaspBee II by Dresden Electronic acting as Zigbee gateway.

My issue is as follows:
I bought nedis thermostats, specifically ZBHTR10WT. Those can be integrated into HA using zigbee2mqtt (Can't find reference link right now, will add later), but I am unable to add the RaspBee 2 as zigbee gateway to the zigbee2mqtt container, as the gateway is attached to the deCONZ container as above, thus the z2mqtt container fails to start, preventing me rom integrating the thermostats into HA.

I could swap the docker setup out for a HA setup with Supervisor, if an image exists.

Can someone assist in solving this issue?
Thank you very much!

sour shadow
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Well, if you want to use the device via Zigbee2MQTT you need either:

  1. Another coordinator
  2. To stop and remove deCONZ
coarse prism
sour shadow
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Sure, you need another coordinator

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You'll be creating another mesh though, that's likely to be ... not ideal

jolly narwhal
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Tubes Poe coordinator goaFeelsLoveMan

sour shadow
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The smart option is probably to move everything to Z2M and burn deCONZ

jolly narwhal
coarse prism
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Hm, meh. The thermostats speak zigbee, meaning that theorethically the deconz container should recognize 'em, but doesn't.

So I probably gonna nuke deconz and replace it with z2m.

jolly python
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is it difficult to change from a HA intern instance of z2m to one in docker

green cloak
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can I change my switch to expose like light in some way?

sour shadow
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Which Zigbee integration?

green cloak
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sorry, zigbee2mqtt

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in standard Zigbee HA integration my light switches was identified as light but I migrate to z2m because of issues with few incompatible devices

sour shadow
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ISTR that you can, though I don't recall how. There's an option in the HA device specfic settings to over-ride it I think

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Of course, it's mostly a human layer thing, you're not changing how things work

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You could just use light.switch to wrap it

green cloak
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great, thanks a lot 🙂

jolly narwhal
agile goblet
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Hey folks, anyone in here familiar with tube's ZB ethernet coordinators? I'm considering switching to one after my old cc2531 stick died.

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Wondering if it helps with reliability and issues with the coordinator dead-heading when zigbee2mqtt has issues talking to it. (IE binds and groups still work even if z2m is down).

sour shadow
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Anything CC2652 based is an upgrade on the CC253x sticks

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Tube's stuff is hard to beat

jolly narwhal
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Poe is life

agile goblet
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Yeah, I have a server rack down under our house I'm about to migrate the HASS nuc and the rest of the networking equipment into and I was looking at tube's POE based coordinator to throw upstairs in the same spot as the usb coordinator stick.

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Then I realised I can use one of those PoE to miniUSB adaptors and a usb powerbank as a mini UPS and got really excited and then my cc2531 died.

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So, great timing.

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Anyhow, thanks for the confirmation.

neon pebble
sour shadow
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Most Hue stuff is reset/put into pairing mode in the same way

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Otherwise, Google shrug

neon pebble
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Google is not my friend on one. The hue manual claims that it should be enough to just reset it, but it just dosn't seem to help (and that shouldn't be neccesary when using a brand new module)

jolly python
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what hue product do you have

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have you reseted them with a hue switch?

neon pebble
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the wall module does not seem to be resetted by using the switch

jolly python
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Yes probably right haven't known which device you're looking at

coarse prism
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Hey @sour shadow: Thanks for the assistance, turns out that deCONZ did recognize my thermostats, it just didn't show 'em in the WebUI, but they are accessible via the API. Now I've gotta dig thru these things and have some commits and PRs to make!

rapid skiff
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So I'm trying to get the ZBMINI switches paired up with Z2M. They pair fine and show up in HA, but then keep disconnecting without any input

green cloak
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Can I use Sonoff ZBBridge like repeater?

calm pine
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Hi everyone, I hope this is the right channel for this question. Does anyone know of a device, like a gateway, that accepts wifi signals and uses ZigBee to relay them forward? I am working in a building that cannot have wifi run to each room, so I will have Zigbee devices to expand the mesh network. I have wifi plugs that I wish to use and communicate with HA, the problem is the only network connection between these spots is Zigbee.

sour shadow
rapid skiff
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Hmm any other recommendations for a zigbee switch relay like the ZBMINI? I was expecting it to work so I ordered 120V relay boards to control a thermostat. If not, possibly a combination zigbee+dedicated relay board?

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I need quite a few in the same area so small/cheap is prefered

ivory hound
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but from what you say I doubt you have this

ivory hound
rapid skiff
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I got the V1.1 boards and it just connects/disconnects

ivory hound
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make sure you don't encase them in metal

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and they have good signal

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also what coordinator / integration you use?

jolly narwhal
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  1. Enable paring in z2m
  2. Enter pairing mode of the bulb
  3. Voilà
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If it has never been paired before it should be automatic when you power it on

lilac wharf
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Do you have a hue bridge or hue dimmer remote?

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Know anyone who does near you?

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I've heard you can possibly factory reset them with 5 power cycles, but I'm not sure if that's true

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Also I guess the method with the hue dimmer remote also works with a specific Tradfri remote

surreal quarry
remote walrus
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mqtt

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Sorry wrong box

lilac wharf
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Been there, done that

jolly narwhal
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It should go into pairing mode directly

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If it isn't paired

ivory hound
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@surreal quarryis like this

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if your hue bulbs are not paired with anything, it will go directly in pair mode

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you will see this with some random colors on bulb or flashing light

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when you power them

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if you do not see this

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and like the guys said, you don't hub a hub or a remote

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move on

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you wont pair that bulbs

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no

lilac wharf
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Although you might be able to factory reset via bluetooth

ivory hound
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bluetooth is as a backup connection

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i am not sure if link touch works for them

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@surreal quarryyou can not factory reset a hue bulb without a hub or a remote

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how you factory reset them?

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lol u sure you have zigbee bulbs?

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i kinda doubt it at this point

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find it here

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show it to us

jolly narwhal
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I also have at least three spare ones

lilac wharf
haughty tendon
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@scarlet vigil Do you have any zigbee bulbs in your setup? I finally made the switch from ST to HA after finding out the reason my Aqara motion sensors kept going offline because of interference caused by zigbee bulbs. I kept the bulbs on ST and moved the sensors to HA and haven't had that issue since.

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Which is why I'm here today!

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I have an Osram bulb that somehow is tied to a nearby Aqara motion sensor's 'motion detected' and 'clear' states. That is, it turns on/off whenever either state changes. It's so weird. The bulb isn't tied to any automation outside of the Office Toggle AppDaemon script.

gaunt forge
calm pine
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Is there a way to get any kind of message across? the barrier of Wifi to Zigbee?

lilac wharf
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...why not just use Zigbee entirely

jolly narwhal
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Oh i see Osram

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Those are known to be shite

haughty tendon
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sorry, just realized you replied to my other comment

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Yeah, in a way I'm happy it happened because it forced me to move to HA, which I love. But Osram/Sylvania lights have always given me issues

jolly narwhal
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Tradfri life

haughty tendon
#

Well, I have a tradfri bulb that's acting up too, lol. But it doesn't appear to be HA-related, just SmartThings (also shite).

jolly narwhal
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Yes

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Yes it is

haughty tendon
#

Probably not worth keeping SmartThings around just to use these shitty bulbs, eh? Just realized I could solve these problems cutting ST out entirely ponder

jolly narwhal
#

Yeth

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And ofram

ivory hound
#

i swear i hear like ppl mention me on discord but i can't find anything

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what am i missing

sour shadow
#

Pain? Suffering? The laments of your enemies?

jolly narwhal
ivory hound
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omg omg

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what should I do 😄

lilac wharf
#

they might be deleting their message

ivory hound
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nee i found it

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shitty settings on zigbee2mqtt

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i disabled all except mentions

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i am all good again 🙂

jolly python
ivory hound
#

yah for me it was very clear after 10 minutes i just realized that was the only server i joined today

vestal atlas
#

Another dead ikea zigbee thing, another zigbee module salvaged. Now if I could find a use for them.. 😅

jolly narwhal
#

Really

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Nothing of mine has died so far

calm pine
lilac wharf
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ESPHome is for WiFi devices @calm pine

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So no 😄

#

But I'm saying why don't you just use all zigbee plugs?

vestal atlas
# jolly narwhal Really

one light started flashing like it was a disco and one outlet's relay stopped latching. Being able to extract the zigbee module made up for it so I'm not bitter at all 😅

jolly narwhal
#

I have two dead hue bulbs you could have

mighty river
jovial aspen
spice kelp
#

i just set up a sengled power monitoring outlet. is there a way to throttle or reduce the precision of the power usage updates? it's writing a new state every ~5s. i'm using z2m

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can I use a custom user extension to round the precision of published values?

jolly python
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Maybe you can modify a door sensor @mighty river

fallow citrus
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Hey there, I have exactly this product: https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Nedis_ZBRC10WT.html which is "Confirmed working with zigbee2mqtt".
But for some reason I cannot add it.
I click "permit join", I press the reset button and the LED flashes, but nothing happens. Anyone know why this could be?

violet dagger
#

the logs will show if its attempting to pair or not

fallow citrus
#

Logs seem to be empty

violet dagger
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then its not in pairing mode or too far away from the coordinator

fallow citrus
#

I will try again but next to the coordinator. What should I do first? pairing mode on z2m or pairing mode on device?

violet dagger
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enable permit join on z2m then put the device in pairing mode

fallow citrus
#

Only the announce message

fallow citrus
dull quartz
#

Binding an IKEA remote to more than 4 bulbs should be possible, right?

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Or binding to a group?

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Using the ZHA integration..

gaunt forge
#

Use a Zigbee group whenever possible (and it makes sense for your use case), this reduces communication overhead and improves overall „snappiness“

snow gate
#

Just starting - have HA running on old MacPro with VirtualBox vdi. I think I will need a zigbee and maybe z-wave gateway or dongle of some kind. Server in the basement but most devices are upstairs. LOTS OF CONCRETE. in the way. I'm thinking of a gateway type device? Any recommendations?

jolly narwhal
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Tubes Poe coordinator

fallow citrus
jolly narwhal
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Sensible

midnight robin
#

Anyone has issues of Zigbee Tuya switches turning off automatically around 2mins+ after turning on? Googled and it seems to be a common issue but I can't seem to find a fix for it

spice kelp
#

using Z2M, is there a way to throttle/round published values for a sensor with a float value?

lilac wharf
#

Possibly; check the z2m device info page for the device

spice kelp
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i did, but there wasn't anything for this specific device. was asking if there's a more generic way

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it's an instantaneous power sensor and it's toggling back and forth between 0.5W and 1.1W every 5 seconds when the plugged in device is idle 😦

#

thousands of state updates in HA in the past few hours

lilac wharf
#

then no in that case for rounding. for throttling, you could possibly tweak the "min rep change" value for power usage in the reporting section of the device in the z2m frontend

spice kelp
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could a user extension possibly help here?

lilac wharf
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no clue

spice kelp
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i'll create an issue and ask there. thanks!

jolly python
spice kelp
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the problem is that the payload constantly toggles back and forth between different values

lilac wharf
#

did you try what i suggested above with the min rep change value?

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agreed though; seems like it would be helpful to have an actual configuration option for the threhold before sending an MQTT payload

spice kelp
#

well, the downside to adjusting min rep is that actual changes would show up slower

rapid skiff
#

I'm trying to do some troubleshooting so I set up ZHA in HA. But it still shows devices connected from a previous Z2M install and I cannot delete them. Thoughts?

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Nevermind, I reinstalled the integration and they are gone

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Wow that was so much easier than Z2M

lilac wharf
spice kelp
#

oh, i was thinking interval 🤦‍♂️

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it has "Min rep change" to 1 right now

last ruin
#

I guess I can just wait and see since the PR is already in beta 🙂

rapid skiff
#

Okay so I have my zigbee light in ZHA now. It was unsupported in Z2M so I had to add it locally. In ZHA it picked up and seems to work, but the entity id is now light.wafer_led_a_level_light_color_on_off

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Is that normal?

ivory hound
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yes

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you can change it to whatever you want

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but be carefull at domain

rapid skiff
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Oh you can

ivory hound
#

not to change that

rapid skiff
#

I changed it back to light.wafer_led_a

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And my stuff in lovelace works now

ivory hound
#

great to hear

#

still it puzzles me something work in zha and not in zigbee2mqtt

rapid skiff
#

Well, it worked in both

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But the sonoff zbmini switches did not like these lights

ivory hound
#

in what way?

spice kelp
rapid skiff
# ivory hound in what way?

When the light was connected or a new one was paired, the zbmini would disconnect from Z2M until I turned the light off

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But just those lights

ivory hound
#

wierd

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maybe was a conflict address

rapid skiff
#

Yep. Only solution so far is putting them on a separate network

#

Everything looked fine but who knows

ivory hound
#

maybe add a bug report in zigbee2mqtt

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with this findings

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they will help others

rapid skiff
#

Once I add some more of these devices and test them, I will

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This is a weird, unpopular light though

ivory hound
#

since you have hours background with this issue if you do 5 min work to report it, it will help others to not spend ours like you did to see wtf is going on 🙂

rapid skiff
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Oh definitly

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But I want to make sure this is the solution first

ivory hound
#

yep

rapid skiff
#

On a side note, I started buying these lights on amazon used-very good for half the price. No idea where they are coming from but 2/2 work so far

ivory hound
#

to be honest i have some issue with my zigbee2mqtt also move to a new home and random devices drop offline from the network then if they are not aqara they get back on, trying to debug this, first I thought is a wifi interference but this is to intermittent so the wifi things kinda drops because wifi are on all the time

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any other ideas what this could be?

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waiting for any help

rapid skiff
#

Aqara devices stop re-connecting?

ivory hound
#

they never do

#

is kinda a thing

#

aqara they are known to stick with the router they connect to

#

they never move

rapid skiff
#

Ah right

#

Yeah I have sensors from them, work fine so far

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Oh that reminds me

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I have 2 of the cubes, and could only find a blueprint for ZHA

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I guess I can add those there

ivory hound
#

dunno i was never interested in one, i was more like a buttons kinda guy

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🙂

rapid skiff
#

I thought it would be fun if anything

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Because of how you control it

ivory hound
#

not fun to remember all the thing you can program it to do

rapid skiff
#

Yeah true, I would label it

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And use it personally, not with anyone else

ivory hound
#

does anyone know a good docker image with bellows so run ezsp channel interference scan?

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i used walthowd/husbzb-firmware but is for x86

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and need it for arm

lilac wharf
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Is your HA host on an ARM system? I'm pretty sure bellows is in the HA docker image

ivory hound
#

no no

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i am on pi

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but it's solved

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i've installed bellows via python pip

lilac wharf
#

So...your HA host is on an ARM system then 😂

ivory hound
#

jus want to run some scans

ivory hound
ivory hound
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i run bellows separately with separate adaptor

lilac wharf
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Got it

ivory hound
#

just to do some network interference scans

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i have devices dropping from the network randomly

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and I am interested why

austere patio
ivory hound
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ty @austere patio but i installed via pip

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works ok

spice kelp
#

could the units in "Rep min change" be different from the published value? i can't really find any documentation on it

ivory hound
#

yah i just found out channel 25 sucks for me and interference varies greatly, and channel 11 is the best atm in this new location

austere patio
#

What do your raw values look like?

spice kelp
# 
Jan 28 12:11:18 zigbee2mqtt/Washing Machine {"energy":0.01,"linkquality":33,"power":1.1,"state":"ON"}
Jan 28 12:11:23 zigbee2mqtt/Washing Machine {"energy":0.01,"linkquality":30,"power":1.1,"state":"ON"}
Jan 28 12:11:29 zigbee2mqtt/Washing Machine {"energy":0.01,"linkquality":30,"power":1.1,"state":"ON"}
Jan 28 12:11:33 zigbee2mqtt/Washing Machine {"energy":0.01,"linkquality":24,"power":0.5,"state":"ON"}
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i'm updating the "seMetering" cluster with "instantaneousDemand" attribute

ivory hound
#

debounce that linkquality

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not so hard

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or plain make it not report it

spice kelp
#

LQ wasn't the (only) issue. here's a different sample:

Jan 28 12:03:46 zigbee2mqtt/Washing Machine {"energy":0.01,"linkquality":39,"power":0.5,"state":"ON"}
Jan 28 12:03:51 zigbee2mqtt/Washing Machine {"energy":0.01,"linkquality":39,"power":1.1,"state":"ON"}
Jan 28 12:03:56 zigbee2mqtt/Washing Machine {"energy":0.01,"linkquality":39,"power":1.1,"state":"ON"}
Jan 28 12:04:01 zigbee2mqtt/Washing Machine {"energy":0.01,"linkquality":39,"power":0.5,"state":"ON"}
Jan 28 12:04:06 zigbee2mqtt/Washing Machine {"energy":0.01,"linkquality":39,"power":1.1,"state":"ON"}
spice kelp
#

ok, after a bit of experimenting, setting "Rep min change" to 50 seems to set the value change threshold to ~5 for the power reports

#

not sure why it's off by a factor of 10 🤷

ornate socket
#

@ivory hound mind sharing which hardware you use for zigbee2mqtt?

#

think most require firmware flash it seems

ivory hound
#

@ornate socket sry man I saw now you asked

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Electrolama zig-a-zig-ah! (zzh!)

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is what i use

#

and i also have a cuple of Elelabs Zigbee USB ELU13

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i use for channel scans and stuff

jolly python
#

The zzh has to be flashed, but its really simple, no flashing device needed

austere patio
ivory hound
#

and a conbee II i want to donate :))))

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@austere patioty man i did not know about it

austere patio
#

If you don't mind getting the Conbee into an inconsistent state, I have a script for you to test out 🙂

ivory hound
#

i would burn that conbee without any regret

gaunt forge
#

I‘d throw in my Conbee II, too!

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I‘m now using a ZigStar V4 C2652P stick with Zigbee2MQTT and also a TubeSZ PoE LAN coordinator is on the way. C2652P is so much better than previous coordinators and especially the Conbee II !

pine swan
#

Does anyone know of a Zigbee temperature and humidity sensor that's available for Europe that has either the sensors or the antenna external? I want to monitor the temp and humidity in my safe so I need the sensors on the inside and the antenna on the outside.

gaunt forge
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Although I didn’t bother to find out which was the crappier component: the Conbee II or the DeConz - they both suck 😜

austere patio
#

Try putting a router right next to the safe, the signal might get through

sour shadow
nova flint
pine swan
#

Thanks. Any particular recommended projects?

vestal atlas
#

how would an esp help? I would assume you cannot get cables into it

nova flint
#

@pine swan Look into the DHT11 sensor.

pine swan
pine swan
vestal atlas
#

never DHT11, take BME280

#

miles better

nova flint
#

Ah

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Yeah

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That gets you temp, humidity and pressure 🙂

scarlet pebble
austere patio
#

Tuya 🤢

scarlet pebble
#

No but it's Zigbee

sour shadow
#

Tuya are ... not well thought of for a reason

scarlet pebble
#

I have a few Tuya things - i just install via z2mqtt

sour shadow
#

They're about on a par with Sonoff in producing stuff that's a PITA

scarlet pebble
#

I think this is just Tuya compatible. All my scene switches are Tuya too but just worked in z2mqtt

#

No Tuya app

#

Do you not think this would work?

#

(was thinking about the Aqara one but lord knows when that will be available worldwide)

sour shadow
#

It may work, may require some work to make it work

scarlet pebble
#

👍

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Was just wondering if anyone had tried it to see if it was actually much better than a standard motion sensor

sour shadow
#

It looks like it's a standard motion sensor, with some other bits

scarlet pebble
sour shadow
nova flint
#

Tuya Zigbee is hit&miss, to be honest. My curtain motor for instance? There's like 5 or 6 variations of it under the same name, 4 of which have support in ZHA. Mine.. Well, I was unlucky. Or lucky, because it worked in Z2M.

scarlet pebble
scarlet pebble
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"The price currently listed in Mainland China is RMB399, which roughly works out at US$63.00, UK£47.00, or €56.00," - not a bad [rice tbh

nova flint
#

Plus taxes and shipping, so closer to 100€ I'd guess 😄

scarlet pebble
#

Gaahh!!

nova flint
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Well, 70-80, but still

scarlet pebble
#

I suppose hallways will only really need a standard sensor.
While this will be useful for the lounge and bathrooms

nova flint
#

Yeah, places where you could easily stay still for long enough for the lights to turn off, you'd want something like that

jolly python
#

I hope they work as advertised, would be great

austere patio
#

Or decouple presence from motion with a Bayesian sensor or something

spice kelp
vestal atlas
#

sounds too expensive, but maybe it is if you buy locally. Have a look at ebay

#

note that there is bmp280 also that is cheaper but is missing the humidity sensor

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if you only need temperature you could also use a ds18b20. Its not as good buy you can buy them in probe format

nova flint
spice kelp
#

you sure those aren't BMP280s?

nova flint
#

Ah, yeah. Damn product name did the Aliexpress vagueness of "BME280/BMP280" 😄

#

Got to look at the product image to figure out which one it is..

#

Yeah, 15-ish each sounds about right

pine swan
#

If I use a Sonoff SNZB-03 to detect someone going for a pee in the middle of the night, is it going to get upset about being used in a room where there's a shower?

nova flint
#

It's rated for 10-95% non-condensing humidity 😄 It might be uppity with a hot shower.

pine swan
#

That's what I was concerned about. Some listings for it say it's suitable for bathroom. Is there a bathroom-rated Zigbee PIR you know of please?

violet dagger
#

My Aqara sensor is sitting in one for over 2 years

austere patio
#

Same here. I'm sure it's similarly only rated for non-condensing humidity. The Sonoff is a cheap sensor, you probably won't break it.

violet dagger
#

Sonoff does have a lot of places for ingress, i had one outdoors for fun and it corroded

harsh parrot
#

I've been really curious about these since the announcement, and how we might get to use them in Home Assistant.

#

within their proprietary iOS app it seems like there's some pretty rich sensor data available, not just whether or not someone is present in the room, but breaking the room down into zones... sensing direction of movement from one zone toward another, etc.

#

room entry, room exit, approaching sensor, moving away from sensor... as well as people staying in place (sleeping / watching TV / sitting on the toilet / etc)

austere patio
#

This doesn't sound like anything standards-compliant so unless someone with the sensor implements a quirk for ZHA or a converter for Z2M, you're likely going to just see basic functionality, if any

harsh parrot
#

well if I can only template out a binary sensor for presence, it'll already be a big improvement over PIR for me

jovial aspen
#

have you tried something like ESPresense or room-assistant

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I swear by ESPresense. I switched over to it after running room-assistant for 6~ months and haven't looked back

#

it's rock solid and seems to work with a better range of BLE devices than room-assistant

gaunt forge
#

@jovial aspen Dunno. That solution requires everyone to carry around either their phone or some kind of other beacon / tile all the time. Like when I go from the living room to the kitchen to get a drink/snack I would not carry my phone each and every time but leave it in the living room: Boom, presence detection failed… The only really reliably working solution not requiring to always carry around some active device with you would be something like the FP1…
On the other hand I’m not sure of I want - next to the already existing radiation from Wifi, Zigbee and the like - additional microwave radiation being shot at my family all the time…

jolly python
#

i hate how these things have to be ripped out of the wall to reset them

limpid cloud
#

@patrex what Integration? With zha most likely it has no entities but the battery one. You have to listen for events. At least that is how my remotes work (ikea dimmer Switch and osram switch mini)

jolly python
limpid cloud
#

About the hue wall switch that you have paired?

#

But if getting no entities is not your problem, then sorry for my unproductive reply.

jolly python
limpid cloud
#

Ah, sorry for bothering misunderstood then. Still getting used to this discord thing

jolly python
#

slowly i get the feeling it was simpler to custom automate a motion sensor on a hue bridge on a smartphone than it is in home assistant on a computer

vestal atlas
#

for sure it's easier and more intuitive, but not nearly as extensive

thick plover
#

having issues running a docker-compose for z2m, getting an error that the serial port is incorrect

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have checked the docker-compose yaml devices line and the z2m config.yaml file, it all lines up with the coordinators usb path, not sure what to do next

#

also getting Error: Config file /mosquitto/config/mosquitto.conf is a directory.

sterile sleet
#

your volume/device mappings are likely wrong

grave mantle
#

Hi, I seem to be struggling with getting my RGB tradfri bulb to actually give me an rgb light control in HA (using zha) (white) color temperature, brightness & toggling all do work as intended
In the zigbee clusters I do see a color group. Any advice? (already tried a reconfigure device)
Looks like they (also) swapped bulbs on me 🤦‍♂️ https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/1297

thick plover
#

#startagain

hollow basin
#

Hi all, so i have some wifi smart switches that have tuya support. the chip is not an ESP based chip. Im thinking of replacing the chips and while i was researching i saw that there is a 8255 chip as well as a zigbee chip that have the same pin layout. Im trying to find out if there is any opensource firmware out there i can use to set this up as a zigbee smart switch. here is the chip: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003691950877.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.2.236977527MPEGJ&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=7e287cb8-790d-4b0a-8ba5-6f18f688dd4e&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:7e287cb8-790d-4b0a-8ba5-6f18f688dd4e,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238114%231999&pdp_ext_f=%257B%2522sku_id%2522%253A%252212000026821645877%2522%252C%2522sceneId%2522%253A%25223339%2522%257D&pdp_pi=-1%253B1.1%253B-1%253B-1%2540salePrice%253BUSD%253Brecommend-recommend

harsh parrot
icy grove
#

Hey, I have a question. Can I pair zigbee devices close to the hub and then move them to their final location? Or should I pair them with the hub while already at their final location?

deft jay
#

Does anyone have experience with Aqara mini switch with deconz? When I pair them in phoscon under switches they paring screen never allows me to advance and the ny are never recognized but they show up in deconz. After that pairing nothing happens on events when I ores the button. Wondering if anyone knows a trick for this particular device. The Aqara leak sensors work fine.

lilac wharf
jolly narwhal
icy grove
#

ok thanks 🙂

jolly narwhal
#

Also pair them to devices that never get powered off

icy grove
jolly narwhal
#

I use those

#

They are great

#

Same with the bulbs

icy grove
#

I use ZHA for connecting zigbee devices, any special tricks for adding the tradfi plugs or just pair and good to go? @jolly narwhal

jolly narwhal
#

No idea

#

I run zigbee2mqtt

austere patio
#

IKEA stuff is usually pretty boring and just works. Enable joins, poke the button for a few seconds, and it'll show up.

icy grove
icy grove
jolly narwhal
#

I can run zigbee2mqtt outside of HA

#

Decoupling

tropic depot
#

for now

molten linden
#

👀

unborn orbit
#

I'm trying to use zigpy to backup my coordinator with the following:

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python3 -m zigpy_znp.tools.network_backup socket://10.0.0.91:6638 -o network_backup.json

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i'm getting the following errors:

obsidian sandalBOT
molten linden
#

Is anything else trying to use the coordinator at same time?

unborn orbit
#

Hey tube, I'm lucky that you happened to be on it's actually one of your coordinators. Do I have to prep firmware update before trying to run backup?

molten linden
#

No. You just make sure zha or z2m are not running and then should run the back up. If you are using z2m you should have a valid backup from the last successful start in the data folder

unborn orbit
#

perfect, thanks!

jovial aspen
jolly narwhal
#

Helps to have one that doesn't require charging every 12h

#

I miss the 36 days on my amazfit bip, but the amazfit gtr2 has 15 days, so it is fine

analog flicker
#

Was there an update recently that broke zigbee devices? I unfortunately found out the hard way my water sensors were not working.

#

I go to HA and it looks like all of the entity names have reset to default? wtf?

#

the device names are the same, but instead of binary_sensor.garage_leak its binary_sensor.aiq_leak

austere patio
analog flicker
#

ZHA

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I think the latest stable release? I can't find out now with the reorganized layout

gleaming jay
#

Can zigbee wall switches be configured like zwave ones? Ie when i setup a zwave switch i can configure if the led is on, what state the switch should go to after a power loss, etc

lilac wharf
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It depends on the switch

gleaming jay
#

Ok im using zha, does that matter?

lilac wharf
#

Nope

gleaming jay
#

If the awitch had it, would i see it on the device page? Or do you do it elsewhere

lilac wharf
#

I don't use ZHA, so I'm not sure

analog flicker
#

What do you use for zigbee?

unborn orbit
#

anyone running into issues with the sonoff dongle on channels other than default? I'm on 25 and having a bear of a time getting them to pair

#

Also dumb question but on zigpy_znp with energy scan the fewer # on a given channel means the lower amount of traffic right?

gleaming jay
#

Tediore do you know of a db that lists what switches have these features, or have personal experience of which brands do/do not have configurable settings?

mighty river
gleaming jay
#

i saw a reivew that showed them being way out of wack on temperature accuracy

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so I've avoided them

mighty river
#

What are considered the best temp sensors?

lilac wharf
lilac wharf
gleaming jay
#

so you don't know of any switches that are configurable then?

lilac wharf
#

Unfortunately not. All of my smart switches/dimmers are WiFi ones flashed with Tasmota

gleaming jay
#

well, glad i didnt buy too many of these zigbee switches then

mighty river
#

Have a pic?

gleaming jay
#

?

mighty river
#

oh the switches?

gleaming jay
#

oh

mighty river
#

Is tuya a good brand of sensors?

#

Want to get some reed switches.

gleaming jay
#

they're just leviton brand zigbee switches. they make zwave and wifi too

#

I'd avoid tuya

#

I just accidentally bought a tuya version of a wifi relay. The HA integration isn't great for tuya, and you have to use their phone app and their cloud. Not very HA mentality. Go ESPhome for wifi, or tasmota but I don't have experience with tasmota

mighty river
#

Really need zigbee now

gleaming jay
#

Also I'm using basic aqara temp sensors. they do humity and pressure, and aliexpress has them for about $11/pc

violet dagger
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Always Aqara

gleaming jay
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they work nice with HA

violet dagger
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Friend/Develco are also good

gleaming jay
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if money weren't an object, i'd get something else. But most temp sensors are like $40-$50 each

mighty river
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Where do you purchase those from? I would probably be grabbing stuff from ali express

violet dagger
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That depends on where you're from

mighty river
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Australia

violet dagger
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AliExpress it is then

mighty river
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$60 for 4x temp sensors aqara

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WIth aqara I can just pair directly with ZHA? No need for the phone app or anything?

gleaming jay
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yeah

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my experience, sometimes they take a few tries to pair. And I find the network mesh takes like 24-48 hours to settle down and make its connections. In the first day or two you may lose the device, but it joins back and stops doing that

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btw these leviton zigbee switches make a really loud relay click when they turn on/off. wouldn't recommend

mighty river
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True. I just got on board with a bunch of ikea zigbee bulbs

gleaming jay
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I read that bulbs are a bad way to go, vs switches. Cause with bulbs you're constantly disconnecting and reconnecting them to the network

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better to have dumb bulb but a smart switch

mighty river
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Are they dimmable then?

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Adjustable colour temp?

gleaming jay
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but if you have both smart switch and smart bulb, that's the ultimate

mighty river
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Yeah

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I wonder if i can buy covers for my light switches.

gleaming jay
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well a switch can dim, but it can't make a bulbs temperature change

mighty river
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That just go over and block the switches.

gleaming jay
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i wouldn't want to do that

mighty river
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Why?

gleaming jay
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you really want to have to flip out your phone every time you want to turn a light on or off?

austere patio
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Stick a smart switch/buttons on top and you're good to go

mighty river
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Voice control tbh

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I have one of those 5 button ikea remotes.

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I need one in each room

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I want to put an ipad in the main area of the house too

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But the ultimate plan would be presence detection controlling the lights.

pine spire
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ok guys, I have a new issue going on now... I moved my VM to ProxMox and the ZWave and Zigbee connected no problem, I can see the VM passing the Zigbee stick but none of my devices are connecting and/or interacting and doing what they're supposed to. Any ideas?

mighty island
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I'd happily (UK) buy anything to replace the Tuya plugs with power monitoring that works with HA. Any suggestions? I'm really giving up with them. I tried so hard. But power monitoring with a UK plug is essential.

pine spire
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Have you looked into Shelly?

mighty island
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Any suggestions appreciated.

pine spire
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or aeotec

mighty island
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I'm ZHA and WiFi ... and the monitoring is massively important.

pine spire
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gotcha, lemme continue looking

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Shelly devices are WiFi

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the Shelly 1pm does power monitoring but it's not a plugin device

mighty island
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This seems to do the job, but expensive.

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£12.50 each ..

gleaming jay
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seems not bad price to me

pine spire
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ahh, I was not aware of your budget, that doesn't seem expensive to me.

gleaming jay
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that's $21 cdn. I pay $15cdn for the ikea ones without power monitoring

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$5-$6 more for power monitoring, seems reasonable

mighty island
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It's at a price I'd consider.

gleaming jay
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plus, I wouldn't want to trust something too cheap to control power

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Light switches are like $60-$75 cdn

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that's brutal

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and they can't usually handle a typical 15a load even at that price, so you're making some sacrifices

pine spire
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I have 15+ light switches in my house at $45USD/ea

mighty river
mighty island
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I bought some Shelly light things and they didn't work out already. Perhaps it was the power draw vs no neutral that was the issue.

mighty island
pine spire
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So your power... do you have 2 wires, each at 120v or one power and one ground?

mighty river
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WHat was wrong with those?

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They worked well for me until i let apple home also control them haha

mighty island
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I only have two LED's, it couldn't handle the low power.

pine spire
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So you don't have a neutral, correct?

mighty island
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It's not an issue. My Tuya stuff is my issue. I like to charge my ebike at night, when it's cheap. It's just not working with HA.

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No neutral, yup.

pine spire
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I'm very confused on UK wiring... we use 110v as main power and 220v for higher current equipment.

mighty river
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Australia just uses 240v

pine spire
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Yeah, most other countries use 220/240

mighty river
pine spire
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@molten salmon, why not get a Z-Wave controller for HA?

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I'm having nothing but problems with my Zigbee stuff... I hate it but it's a necessity

mighty river
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What sort of issues?

pine spire
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Every time I reboot my HA, the zigbee stuff no longer reports to HA or responds to anything.

austere patio
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You using a Conbee?