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Anyway, thank you a lot for the resources, I probably need to study a little bit more this new protocol and devices to actually have a smart home that does what its owner want it to do...

raven jewel
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It's always worth planning out your goals, but they will absolutely adjust and change when you learn of new things or features are added. And sometimes it's worth just starting and doing things somehow to see what works and doesn't so you have a starting point for improvements. I have yet to move all my IKEA and Aqara stuff to be paired directly to Home Assistant, but as I want to fix a broken HomeKit automation I slowly do, and that's better (for me) than trying to find a whole uninterrupted day.

cerulean abyss
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@elder badge check the pins for recommended sticks

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Then you can use the stuff built into HA to run zinger

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*zigbee

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Yeah, thank you @cerulean abyss, I probably figured out already that the Tradfri isn't just acting like a controller router, but also wants to do stuff itself, and doesn't allow HA to actually control the devices (for instance, turning off a light bulb from the dashboard not using a scene, just plainly doesn't work)

cerulean abyss
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Yeah third party hubs are a little tricky

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Because it’s up to whatever is exposed for the integration

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However you can ditch the IKEA hub and use whatever hub with other IKEA stuff (what I do) so that’s the best option

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IKEA’s stuff is cheap and great

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cerulean abyss
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Yeah hubs aren’t great

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🤷‍♂️ ty for the sugg

old fulcrum
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Can someone show me how light grouping in ZHA looks like?

jolly narwhal
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Also, don't use static IPs @elder badge use DHCP reservations smart

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I'm one of those people

jolly narwhal
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I have never seen a consumer router that didn't support reservations

cerulean abyss
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I set static dhcp reservation in pfsense for anything that shouldn’t move

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Aka servers & some smart home stuff

jolly narwhal
cerulean abyss
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I have been up since 4am. It’s currently 10:40pm

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I am tired

jolly narwhal
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it's not that the router (or rather, pfSense firewall) doesn't support reservations, it's that I'm too lazy to add secondary ranges and add 00:00:00:00:00:00 MAC reservations to all of them to "preserve" the range for reservations, and figure out all the devices MAC addresses, and configure them in the firewall/router, and such and such...

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easier to just nano /etc/network/interfaces and set static and address 192.168.1.10/24

cerulean abyss
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I let the device hit the network, then set a static from that

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Saves me typing in mac addresses

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Lazy/10

elder badge
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that is also true...

raven jewel
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I do that too, very lazy here

elder badge
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we're system engineers after all, right?

cerulean abyss
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Setting static ip on the device itself isn’t ideal anymore, and funny things can happen with dhcp and that

jolly narwhal
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our job is to set up scripts that let us come into the office in the morning and enjoy a nice tea/coffee and read the newspaper instead of doing our "work", because our "work" is being done by our automations that we set up earlier...

jolly narwhal
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Don't care what the IP is really

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if you let DHCP manage the DNS system too, you would be right 😅

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I actually have a dedicated virtual machine with a bind9 instance and custom scripts to edit/check the zones and reload the system

jolly narwhal
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It is pretty normal to let DHCP populate dns

cerulean abyss
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DHCP shoves my pihole address at clients. So then ads go poof

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I manage everything by hand 😂

jolly narwhal
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I do too, inside my labs

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With software defined networking we don't really care much for the IP addresses anyway, the service DNS names should be absolute

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I had a piHole too on a RPi 3, it went kaput when I unplugged it accidentally before powering off the Pi (power from POE switch, cable without the clip, easy to fall off) and the entire filesystem got corrupted...

cerulean abyss
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Unless you wanna try tempting fate with other people at home don’t break home networking lul

cerulean abyss
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well, in my home it's me and my gadzillion devices, and my grandma with her phone, so... 😅
(yeah, it's OT now)

outer kraken
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hi everyone. I have an issue with a zigbee thermostat (radiator control). It shows all the available states in zigbee2mqtt but the temperature value is not available as a separate value in homeassistant. target and current temperature are available in a device called climate.<name>

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any chance i can get the temperature value alone ?

raven jewel
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Is the entity disabled in home assistant?

outer kraken
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no

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but i just saw that zigbee2mqtt has some info on the device:
local_temperature: Current temperature measured on the device (in °C). Reading (/get) this attribute is not possible.

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does that mean its not available as a separate entity although its displayed together with the setpoint ?

ivory hound
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@elder badge i did not read it all don't know if anybody answer but ikea has nothing to do with static ip's on routers, is normal that they don't know, however is to easy to setup a static ip in your router (considering you mention words like docker compose, steak and VM in the same sentence) you should know how to do this

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however for zigbee I'd choose another coordinator if i were you

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fleet stump
outer kraken
fleet stump
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That is how you get the value from the climate entity

torpid cove
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Hi. I have a sonoff zigbee switch modified as a relay, connected to HA thru zigbee2mqtt.
I have a cover switch that turns the sonoff on-> wait 300ms -> off
However sometimes I notice a huge delay between me clicking the cover button, and the switch acting. Sometimes it turns on but delay before turning off.

I just watched the event log.
2021-12-24T23:37:31.246054+00:00 Call_service event triggered on the cover switch.
Following events: Switch ON, mqtt ON, Switch OFF, mqtt OFF. all 4 finished by 2021-12-24T23:37:31.584207+00:00

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aka within a second

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However, the actual zigbee switch "state_changed" event triggered at 2021-12-24T23:37:43.708418+00:00
12s later

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Is it a link quality issue? or something else?

fast talon
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I lost connection to one of my zigbee smart plugs. Next to restarting HA and stuff how do i troubleshoot it

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btw Merry Christmas everyone

marsh widget
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Hi, I installed the deconz addon and my phoscon gateway is all is up and running. I want another application on my network to connect to the phoscon GW. However it's not discoverable it says. I see the Phoscon GW use a 172 ip address. However it should run on my host network (192 ip range) to make it discoverable. Any idea how to change that?

outer kraken
fleet stump
# outer kraken I just want to display it together with another temperature on a mini graph card...

The example I provided should work for you then, I think. I don't use that card, but I just read the page on it, and it says it should work with any sensor or binary_sensor. I don't know of a way to do it in the UI, but if you added to your config:

sensor:
  - platform: template
    sensors:
      my_temperature:
        friendly_name: My Temperature
        unit_of_measurement: 'ºF'
        value_template: "{{ state_attr('climate.my_climate', 'current_temperature') }}"

This would create a sensor called sensor.my_temperature from the "current_temperature" property of the "climate.my_climate" entity. You could then (from the UI) add that sensor to your card.

cerulean abyss
crystal wraith
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zha groups (found under the zha integration) are they regular groups? or light groups? or something different?
I am transitioning my hue/innr lights from Hue hub to zha

jolly narwhal
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They are ZigBee groups

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Which is the preferred way to group ZigBee entities

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I guess they are at least, I don't use zha

crystal wraith
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ahh I see. I will try it then. I don't know more needs to group then lights but maybe there is (and switches)

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trying to pair a previously paired innr bulb(was hue integration). The reset seems to take effect but damn zha won't find it. I use a innr switch that is about 2 meters away from the light I am trying to pair. Anyone got tips?

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nm, found a button that makes sure I try to pair using the inrr swtich.

marsh widget
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rocky sleet
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damn, why is easy install always complicate, i use another orange pi pc 2 (h564bit or something) installed fesh armbian to test ZigBee2Mqtt integration, but after all installed some errors throw out due to npm or nodejs and third time reinstalling but obviously something regarded with less standard OPI platform as if i fould have normal raspi on desk it would probably start at first.... but i was able to bind group on ZigBee layer practically without using any Home-assistant (except configuration portion) now remote work binded to one dimmer but just few possibility no flexibility of asigning buttons to scene, and if i pull stick and put it in phone charger it work same :), so for more flexibility need to instal ZigBee2Mqtt and integrate it to H.A.

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someonee said that is better to use x86 embedded machine for HA software and tools, but i tried on VirtualBox and stuck on lot instalation traps, where you cant install nodejs or something because all is mostly bult for arm machines

sour shadow
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That's not true - it's built for many architectures, including x86

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I run both HA and Z2M on x86 without any issues

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Docker FTW though, you're making life hard for yourself by compiling from source

worthy wedge
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hey guys im really struggling with this ; I updated my zigbee firmware and in ZHA ; now I have 2 coordinators ; 1 is unknown , with the old devices connected to it that aren't polling anything because I need to repair ; and I have the new coordinator and everything i swonky. How do i remove the old coordinator showing up?

tropic depot
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How did you migrate coordinators

ivory hound
mint sand
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Hi everybody

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Had to reinstall my HA and now I’m having problems with some integrations. My ConBee II sees my sensor in the PhosCon setup, but then there is no zigbee entity in my HA. I actually have an error in the integration pane, can I post here the log if someone can help?

tropic depot
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Put it in something like pastebin and share the link. If someone can help they will

mint sand
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ok

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dark birch
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Anybody seen ZigBee switches that looks like a standard light switch on a cable like normal standalone table lamps might have. Want to retrofit on older lamps, while retaining manual control.

sour shadow
fast talon
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not sure why my zigbee plug on my front porch is being flacky.
It has worked with no issues for a couple of weeks. Anyone know what to do with it. Currently its unavailable. The last stats were LQI: 255 RSSI: -80

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not sure if that is good or not

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trying to learn more about zigbee networking

sour shadow
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255 is either perfect or who knows

fast talon
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haha

sour shadow
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The lower the RSSI the worse it is

fast talon
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What should be my troubleshooting steps

sour shadow
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Add devices between it and the next nearest router to improve the signal

jolly narwhal
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How many routers do you have today?

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Over what sized area?

fast talon
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1500 sqft house

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I story

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square shape

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1 story*

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5 zigbee plugs

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so I am assuming they are all routers

jolly narwhal
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They might be

fast talon
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using a hubz usb stick with HA intergration

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when i look in the intergration they are all routers

jolly narwhal
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Then they probably are, but you either have interference or too far between them

fast talon
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it is maybe 25 feet and a few walls from the next closest item

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its on the porch

sour shadow
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A few walls... ablobgrimace

fast talon
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for interference i have a few wifi networks

jolly narwhal
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So, not optimal

sour shadow
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See the pin on interference

fast talon
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ya maybe added a plug in the middle

sour shadow
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At least

fast talon
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what is the pin?

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i dont know where to see that

sour shadow
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Pinned messages?

fast talon
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ahh

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How do I tell what channel the zigbee is on?

mint sand
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.

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can anybody help please?

jolly narwhal
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Your coordinator is unreachable

mint sand
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you mean the ConBee II?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

mint sand
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But in the sidebar if I click on deCONZ, I can get inside and configure averything normally.

jolly narwhal
sour shadow
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Well, the problem is simple

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in the sidebar if I click on deCONZ
yet
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha

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Remove ZHA

mint sand
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ok

rocky sleet
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i finally configured H.A. and zigbee2Mqtt and now i have one question, as i would like to make "non standard" automation example: connecting 3 of 5 buttons on IKEA 5 button rc to one zone (kitchen) and 2 side buttons for 2 small room toggle light, now I studying how to do it and where to do it, on ZigBee2Mqtt or on HomeAssistant side ? tips ?

jolly narwhal
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That would be normal automations @rocky sleet

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In HA

mint sand
rocky sleet
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my problem setting up zigbee2Mqtt was hadn't user right to acces USBstick but i was digging in wrong places 😛

mint sand
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the src folder is empty

sour shadow
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If you're deleting files, other than for custom components, you're doing it wrong

mint sand
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ok 😅

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was just trying to follow suggestion

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sO I just remove the integration and then create again?

jolly narwhal
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You choose

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Either use zha

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Or use deconz

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Remove the other one

sour shadow
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The problem is you're trying to use both deCONZ and ZHA at the same time

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You can't

mint sand
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ok, Solved. Acrually removing and then adding again, just showed me a message I had tomAuthorize the HA app. just allowed the app authorization and then added the integration agin and is working now

mint sand
sour shadow
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Well, you had to do it - nothing sets itself up

mint sand
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btw, thanks guys, it helped and one problem less now 🙂

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thanks a lot

mint sand
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now I will try to Tasmotize my Tuya sockets so I can get rid of the Tuya Cloud integration 🙂

remote mango
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ZHA was automatically downloaded for me too recently when installed my conbee 2

jolly narwhal
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Sounds like another good reason for me to never enable any discovery bits in HA or default_config

sour shadow
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My understanding is that it'll prompt you to set up ZHA, but not set it up

rocky sleet
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ah, still no success no trigger from zigbee2Mqtt remotes, at least i didn't find how to set Z2M to relay it from ZB to MQTT at the momment

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good thing is when you bind at ZB layer button to dimmer it work even if all SBC stuck, but is limited but all at least more advanced is dependent on 3 software and SDcard and few things...

sour shadow
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If you set up Z2M according to the docs you'll have entities in HA

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You'll also have Device triggers showing in the automation UI

rotund brook
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I found my issue. I was not Close enough to the stick. I had 1.5m clear air. I had to move it closer like 30cm clear air to another Ikea bulb 💡 for it to join my network.

jolly narwhal
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Then you have serious issues with interference or coverage

dark birch
tropic depot
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Nothing actually installs automatically… people just don’t read anything before clicking buttons 😂

jolly narwhal
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Oh

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You mean users

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I know these

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And I am so glad I stopped dealing with them

tropic depot
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😂

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Happy holidays folks!

torpid cove
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I'd like to migrate my HA on pi to a rack server. However, I want the zigbee coordinator to be not on the server. How do I achieve that?

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For HA, I assume I can just snapshot then restore on the rack server

jolly narwhal
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Zigbee2mqtt

torpid cove
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I'm running that yes

jolly narwhal
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Then zigbee2mqtt can run anywhere

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On a pi

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And your rack server talks to it over mqtt

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Which is what I do

torpid cove
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Like this?

  base_topic: zigbee2mqtt
  server: mqtt://10.0.10.18```
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so I still need HA to be running on a pi right?

jolly narwhal
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No

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I run ha on a mini itx server

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Mosquitto on a r510

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And zigbee2mqtt on a pi

torpid cove
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Please bare with me. tbh, I am not too understanding what mqtt is even though I have been running it for years.
Now I have all 3 above on a pi.
In my case, should I have HA & mosquitto on my r520?
Install z2m on pi (any OS), with the CC25131, then configure it to my r520 mosquitto IP?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

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Also you should replace the cc2531 when you can

torpid cove
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is it bad?

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might as well use this opportunity to do it together

jolly narwhal
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It isn't great

torpid cove
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All good. I found the recommendation on zigbee2mqtt's page

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thank you 😄

rocky sleet
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update about ikea remote: it was sending action triggers to some broadcast subchannel and current USBfw couldnt capture it, but zigbee2mqtt detected ikeaRC update and flashing was around 3h:30min and after that i see new triggers on mqtt explorer, so it should be doable now. tuya-remote stil out of triggers but i can use it on some dummy pozition with zigbee layer bond to group...

rocky sleet
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or not..... not working again.... lol...

willow bronze
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zigbee2mqtt seems to support this with transmit_power

austere patio
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ivory hound
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I know there is a guy here who is happy with IKEA bulbs as repeaters, my problem with that was I have 3 x 604.084.83 which has the bug that drops all devices after a while and do not route traffic again until is power cycled. now can you recommend a bulb with over 1000 lumen (higher the better) that can do white light (white spectrum -> warm - cold) that DO NOT have this bug?

jolly narwhal
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I only have 4 of that exact model, but no issues

ivory hound
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for me they are fail

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and they never had a firmware update

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I've tried testing server, normal server url, nothing

jolly narwhal
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What firmware are they running?

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2.3.068 here

ivory hound
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ah i don't know i removed them some time ago from my network

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sry man

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i do really appreciate you want to help

jolly narwhal
ivory hound
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i think i'll put one in just to see

jolly narwhal
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Oh no, he died

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plush latch
sour shadow
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Well, the questions are:

  1. ZHA, Zigbee2MQTT, deCONZ?
  2. Depends on (1)
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Ah, so, the answer to (1) is Zigbee2MQTT, based on your post on their Discord

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Have you checked to see whether HA sees the state change when Z2M does?

jolly narwhal
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I use three of those for years and have never had latency

sour shadow
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It's likely the "lag" is in the device, but we'll see

exotic breach
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hello, ive just started adding zigbee devicas to my house. im currently looking into buying a zigbee one but it looks like most of them are managed through apps. My question is, is there a hub that doesnt need to connect to the internet or that doesnt use an app that connects to the internet, for offline usage?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

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See pinned messages

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Zigbee2mqtt, zha are your good options

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Don't buy a Conbee or a cc25xx

obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

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cerulean abyss
sour shadow
exotic breach
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@jolly narwhal thanks!

unique spindle
raven jewel
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Why did you move from Z2M to ZHA? I went the other way to make sure all my Aqara and Xiaomi devices are supported.

jolly narwhal
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Is aqara better supported on zha? I have yet to buy a device that didn't work with Z2M out of the box, except a Norwegian produced ZigBee bulb

raven jewel
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I moved everything to Zigbee2MQTT, it’s definitely better supported.

jolly narwhal
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Oh, I read that the wrong way around

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すみません

copper solar
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hi guys... realised i can't backup and restore entities from deconz Ii to sonoff stick... so have decided to Nuke and Pave

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need to nuke ZHA and start again, want to remove all zigbee entities and will recreate them with the new stick (re-pair)

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how do i nuke existing ?

jolly narwhal
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I'm guessing delete the database

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No idea

copper solar
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maybe just delete the entities for zha

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and then remove the integration

lilac wharf
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Remove the ZHA integration, delete zigbee.db, and readd ZHA

jolly narwhal
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Oh right

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It is in core

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I always forget that

copper solar
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thanks @lilac wharf .. doing

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buckle up !

austere patio
copper solar
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Arrrrrrr!

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Done it... Oops

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Now wrestling with re-pairing everything

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I have the old ZigBee.db file

austere patio
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The database currently doesn't store network settings, just info about devices

copper solar
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I put the old deconz to one side before I started... Hardly got anywhere so if there's a way to back it out and try again am all ears

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The old stick is a deconz

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The new stick is a sonoff 3.

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I heard that you couldn't go from one to the other

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Sorry I mean the old stick is a conbee 2

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New one sonoff stick

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My Mrs is not happy things not working at the moment.

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One day she will see the light! Hahaha

austere patio
copper solar
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i'll take a look - thanks Pud

austere patio
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Np, send me a message if it doesn't work. You may also need to update your Conbee to the latest firmware to fully copy its state, some settings aren't available in older firmwares.

copper solar
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error: command 'gcc' failed: No such file or directory

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i docker exec'd into my HA instance before following the steps

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don't think i have updated the conbee firmware so might guess might need to do it

austere patio
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Maybe the environment is too restrictive now. Do you have another computer with Python 3.8 or newer installed?

copper solar
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yip

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so i can i check...

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these steps downloads what;s on the stick to a backup file

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so indepenedt of ha kinda

austere patio
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Yes

copper solar
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and then i can reapply to a new stick

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therefore can do on another lappy

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cool - will try

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python 3.9.7 on this laptop - pop os, will try

austere patio
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The backup is JSON so as long as the frame_counter for the network key is non-zero for the Conbee backup, you won't need to update the firmware

copper solar
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ok, so compiled on popos

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this command though... cigpy -vv radio deconz /dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2149812-if00 backup deconz.json

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zigpy not cig

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fails with AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'close'

austere patio
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Do you see any indication in the very verbose logging that it was able to connect to your stick?

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Your user may not have permission to open serial ports

copper solar
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checking ta

austere patio
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Running sudo venv/bin/zigpy instead of zigpy should "fix" that temporarily, I don't know what the proper procedure is in Pop OS

copper solar
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trying ta

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no dice.. grrr

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dmesg output

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[96987.829096] usb 1-1.2: Product: ConBee II
[96987.829101] usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: dresden elektronik ingenieurtechnik GmbH
[96987.829106] usb 1-1.2: SerialNumber: DE2149812
[96987.830068] cdc_acm 1-1.2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[97018.984341] cdc_acm 1-1.2:1.0: acm_port_activate - usb_submit_urb(ctrl irq) failed

austere patio
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Can you PM me the full debug output (or upload it somewhere)? It'll likely have the underlying error above the final traceback

copper solar
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ta

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sure

ivory hound
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can anyone recommend a good zigbee bulb over 1000 lumen?

mellow geode
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They’re expensive, but Hue has some bright bulbs now (I think up to 1600 lumen)

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IKEA also has/had some CW/WW 1000 lumen lights

potent valve
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Hihi! I'm new to home automation, but not new to Linux admin or programming.

I have set up scenes in Phoscon, and they're working-- my light bulb changes color depending on the scene.

Where I'm stuck is in trying to do scene selection from HomeAssistant. The Phoscon scenes don't appear as HomeAssistant scenes, so I'm guessing I need to invoke them through deCONZ or something, but I'm unsure how to do this. Is there a guide on invoking Phoscon scenes from HomeAssistant scripts?

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(I'm also not sure if this is better asked here or in automations)

sour shadow
potent valve
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Reading now, thanks.

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OK. So, my scenes should be showing up in HA's listings, then? Should I blow away and reinstall deCONZ?

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It's worth noting I set it up months ago when first starting out, and upgraded the system a few times since then before actually getting any smart bulbs

sour shadow
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They should show in devtools -> States

potent valve
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If I filter states by the term 'scene', the only items which appear are ones I've created through HomeAssistant, not the ones through Phoscon.

sour shadow
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I'd check the log file, see if there's anything obvious/related to deCONZ/Phoscon

potent valve
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OK.

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Checking, thanks.

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Nothing obvious. I'm going to restart the system and see if new log entries that are relevant come up, since maybe any relevant ones would have been pushed out by now.

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Yeah, not finding anything. I can see errors from upnp and ipp, but not anything concerning deCONZ.

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Or Phoscon

sour shadow
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Restart deCONZ?

potent valve
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In the integrations, told it to reload, and then, for good measure, disabled and re-enabled. I can see the scenes now! Not sure which of those two things did it, unfortunately, since I didn't check between each. Thanks!

true vector
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welp, i'm not sure whats going on... but I can't seem to add any additional Zigbee devices to my instance.

I currently use HUBZ1 combo stick for both zwave and zigbee. Works fine for my needs.

I have existing zigbee devicees working. (buttons mostly).

However, when I'm trying to add another ikea button/remote... my instance isn't detecting it. Any suggestions?

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if I tap my existing ikea buttons... they show up in the detection logs.

molten linden
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You say you have mostly buttons - do you have any mains powered devices that act as repeaters?

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The HUSBZB is probably capped at 32 direct children.

true vector
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hmmm... I don't have any other mains devices 'yet'. I have one of the ikea smart plugs I'm going to connect, which should act as a repeater.

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I figured out my issue with these ikea buttons... seems you have to wake them by pressing the reset button 5 times (not included in the instructions) and then follow the reset steps (holding on the 5th press for 10 seconds)

thick plover
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Getting the following error in Z2M - the Adaptive Lighting integration is attempting to change the state of the lamp but looks like it isn't getting through. I have seen this when lights have the power cut to them, but can confirm power is on with these lights and they are connected to Z2M and are showing the correct state in HA. Any ideas on how I may fix?

Error Publish 'set' 'state' to 'Bedroom Lamp Right' failed: 'Error: Command 0x0017880104e915e4/11 genLevelCtrl.moveToLevelWithOnOff({"level":254,"transtime":10}, {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Data request failed with error: 'MAC no ack' (233))'

jovial aspen
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i've got three aqara buttons that just will not join ZA

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ZHA*

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two switch.aq3's and a switch.aq2

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managed to get one of the aq3's to join, but ZHA didn't recognise is as a button

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unk_model by unk_manufacturer

valid wharf
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Morning! (Or whatever in your timezone 🤣).

I'm using Zigbeetomqtt and I have some xiaomi QBKG23LM Switches that reports temperature values. Acording to this page :

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/QBKG23LM.html#options

The temperature values can be offset (which is working properly) and the precision can be changed from 0 to 3.

Whenever I change the precision doesn't work at all. Keeps reporting as an integral instead of float. It's not something about the UI because in the zigbeetomqtt logs appears as an int.

Any clues?

ivory hound
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don't use temp on xiaomi devices

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best advice you gonna get

jolly narwhal
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I love my Xiaomi temperature sensors

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But I don't use mains powered switches

valid wharf
thick plover
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Never had any issues with my Xiaomi temp sensors, would not trust the other devices integrated temp sensor tho

valid wharf
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I know is not trustworthy, but it's a good approximation for the measure. I'm not going to bind any critical process to those measures, just want to know roughly the temperature in my house as I already have those switches all around the place.

I'm not asking if the measure is precise, I'm asking why the precision setting is doing nothing please stick to the subject of question.

thick plover
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No worries champ

heavy basalt
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I can't connect my hue devices to home assistant using zigbee2mqtt. I got a bridge and I used it to unbind them but they won;t connect anyway. Anyone got some ideas what am I doing wrong?

jolly narwhal
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Which bridge?

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Z2m doesn't use a bridge, it uses a coordinator

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In reality z2m is the bridge

heavy basalt
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Well I got 1 led strip and 2 bulbs, 1 was new so I connected it easily, but the other ones were connected to bridge v1 and I cant get them to connect using coordinator

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I tried connecting them to my bridge and then deleting them from device list in app but they wont connect to anything else then the bridge

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Its v1 bridge so I really want to bypass it

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I tried this method of reseting them : Hue bridge

When the bulb is still connected to the Hue bridge, you can simply factory reset the bulb by removing it from the bridge via the Hue app. Orphaned bulbs (configured to connect to a non-existing Zigbee network) can be adopted by a Hue bridge by entering the 6 character serial number in the Philips Hue app

heavy basalt
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Any ideas how to reset those devices using bridge v1? They dont blink after deleting them so that may be the problem

jolly narwhal
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What bridge?

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Hue bridge?

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You can't use that with zigbee2mqtt

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So I don't understand the issue

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The best way to reset a bulb is to use the dimmer switch

heavy basalt
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I dont have the dimmer switch but I have hue bridge v1 which is supposed to be able to reset bulbs but it doesnt work at all

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Maybe only v2 does it, if thats true then I just gotta but dimmer switch

jolly narwhal
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Never done that, thankfully i only have 4 hue bulbs

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The tradfri ones are just 6 resets

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No idea if the hue support that

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Since I have four dimmer switches I just used that

heavy basalt
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Well its listed under 1 of 5 methods of reseting without note about v1 not working

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Dimmer should work on led strip too, right?

jolly narwhal
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Perhaps?

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`I found a simple way to reset a Hue SMART+ Flexible LED Light Strip (listed in their hard-copy manual in the box):

To reset product to manufacturer default setting, power cycle the accessory 5 times. Accessories will flash 4 times when reset is successful.`

sterile pebble
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I am setting up my Sonoff 3.0 and am having difficulties with the web UI opening. In the docs it says to add a port setting in the configuration yaml file. When I do this the configuration fails. Any ideas

jolly narwhal
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On what integration?

heavy basalt
sterile pebble
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zigbee2mqtt - Should I ask in add on instead

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Invalid config for [frontend]: [port] is the error

lilac wharf
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Your zigbee2mqtt config does not go in HA's configuration.yaml

jolly narwhal
sterile pebble
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Thanks, It now has loaded, but the dashboard is taken forever to load. Must be another setup error

blazing tartan
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Anyone know of a zigbee motor or unit to control shades (nylon pull cords) ?

sour shadow
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Have you checked the pins?

warm umbra
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Hello,

Wondering if someone can help me with finding a product. I'm looking for a zigbee controlled roller shutter. I have tried a few but they all work with the smart life/tuya app and Im looking for one that I can directly connect to my zigbee conbee II usb that is linked to home assistant.

Thank you

sour shadow
warm umbra
# sour shadow <a:pins:679771107527622688>

I don't see anything that would answer my question? I'm not asking how to make it work, just looking for a specific device and was hoping someone uses something like that

sour shadow
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There's a pinned message listing known working hardware

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Both lists include various roller shutter/blind options

warm umbra
wanton bobcat
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Oh wait...

lilac wharf
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and they were never heard from again

arctic abyss
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Can anyone point me in the direction of a good guide to Zigbee & HA? Im looking at something that will help me understand the differences in functionality between a USB Zigbee adaptor, and one of those WiFi bridges i've read about.
Thanks in advance!

molten linden
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They all work the same way which is through a serial connection. The network based adaptors just create a serial link over tcp. WiFi is generally not recommended as it may not be a stable as a hard wired connection, also zigbee and WiFi use the same 2.4 ghz band, so the WiFi could interfere with the zigbee coordinator in such close proximity.

arctic abyss
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Thanks - what would you say is real advantage of a direct connected adaptor, such as USB, over a WiFi bridge? just range and placement convenience?
How about config wise? Is one methodology easier to get up and running than another? im kinda looking, like most people i'd guess, for simplicity of setup of devices.

molten linden
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I’m biased as I make and sell Ethernet connected coordinators. I’d stay away from WiFi. Setup is not much different you either pick/specify the serial port or use the IP address of a network connect one.

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Benefits of Ethernet are central placement away from ha server, or if using a VM based install it may be easier than dealing with serial pass through

arctic abyss
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If i went with a bridge, i'd wire it in with Ethernet, but WiFi shouldnt be too much of an issue if its been tuned properly.

What about device detection itself? Is it just a case of putting a given Zigbee device into pairing mode, pair on the bridge and away you go, it appears as a device/entity in HA?

molten linden
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as long as the device follows standards or has a quirk (ZHA) or has a converter (Zigbee2mqtt)

arctic abyss
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ok, great. Thanks for answering!

quartz cedar
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As someone who doesn't make them but does use them I can say the adapter I'm using (which @molten linden happened to make) has been rock solid. I use a POE version and have it placed wherever I thought it would be the least amount of interference with just ethernet connecting it which is SO nice.

arctic abyss
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Are you able to link to that model you are using please? I prefer PoE gear where i can, less cabling.

quartz cedar
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I PM'd you it, not sure the rules on posting links to sites, I assume it's OK since it's listed on HA's site but I am new to the discord server 🙂

molten linden
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Its linked off the Zigbee2mqtt supported adaptors and that’s linked in the pins… my store at https://tubeszb.com

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If linked it here before so 🙈

arctic abyss
quartz cedar
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👍

arctic abyss
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That'll be useful for when i start (re)buying parts.
Had a right mare with first some long-term TP-Link bulbs i had, then all these recent AWS outages messing up Wyze and my ability to actually use my lights, i just want to get some Zigbee compatible bulbs and start building out my automations with HA and equipment that doesn't need a cloud connection to actually function.

quartz cedar
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I'm converting from Hubitat (also a platform really big on local automation and control) and have a ton of zigbee RGBW bulbs in use. I did ZHA when I first set up but wonder if I should have gone Zigbee2MQTT for future compatability (I'm using Zwave2MQTT)

jovial aspen
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Zigbee 😱

jovial aspen
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Still struggling with my Aqara WXKG12LM buttons

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They just won’t join to ZHA

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I have a WXKG11LM that won’t join either. Two other 11LM’s joined fine!

vestal atlas
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try to enable joining via an outlet if you have some, or go to another part of the house and try there

jovial aspen
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Yep, tried moving them about. Best I could get was an “unk_model” device to connect.

vestal atlas
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maybe it could be that it tries to join via a device that cannot deal with xiaomis bullshit 😅

jovial aspen
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Maybe haha

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I take them to the same place that I connected my two working 11LM’s and they don’t connect there.

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I sit right on top of my slaesh coordinator and I can get them to connect as unk_model

austere patio
jovial aspen
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I have not

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It’s got a fresh battery in it though

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I’ll try that now

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"Starting interview"

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then it just sits there until the join times out

austere patio
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What does the joining log show?

jovial aspen
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i'll let you know when it stops

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[0x8f05] Invalid state on future for 0x6e seq -- probably duplicate response

austere patio
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The whole log

jovial aspen
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that line repeats a lot

austere patio
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Device is initialized <Device model=None manuf=None nwk=0x8F05 ieee=00:15:8d:00:02:5d:ac:a9 is_initialized=True>

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Try fully removing it with ZHA, then re-joining it after 30 seconds

jovial aspen
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have i mentioned there are too many clicks required to navigate into ZHA? because there are.

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removing and retrying now

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it's possible i tried to pair this one earlier this morning and forgot to remove it again

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looks like we're back to "Starting interview" and never progressing any further

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no, holy shit it worked

austere patio
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Did it read the model and manufacturer name properly this time?

jovial aspen
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yeah looks like it

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battery is reading as ?

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and i haven't confirmed it's actually working yet

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it truncated the device name when it joined

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but it seems to be working

austere patio
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Truncated the device name?

jovial aspen
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like it cut it off

austere patio
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What does it show?

jovial aspen
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LUMI lumi.sensor_swi

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instead of LUMI lumi.sensor_switch.aq3

austere patio
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That is interesting. What exact value for the model and manufacturer does the device signature show?

jovial aspen
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lumi.sensor_swit
by LUMI

austere patio
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Same thing in the JSON?

jovial aspen
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Quirk: zhaquirks.xiaomi.aqara.sensor_swit.SwitchAQ3V2

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maybe it's meant to do that

austere patio
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I wonder how that happened: MODELS_INFO: [(LUMI, "lumi.sensor_swit")],

jovial aspen
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"manufacturer": "LUMI",
"model": "lumi.sensor_swit",

austere patio
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Yeah, it's in the quirk so it's correct

jovial aspen
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eh it works

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that's all i need

austere patio
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I guess they got tired of typing out the entire device model name each time

jovial aspen
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haha now the second aq3 won't pair at all

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and it's the one i put the fresh battery in 🤦‍♂️

austere patio
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Try taking the battery out and putting it back in

jovial aspen
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goes to find a coin

austere patio
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And make sure you start joining it within 60s of clicking one of the "add device" buttons

jovial aspen
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yep, i'm within 5s

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no joy

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the wind must have been blowing in the right direction when i paired the first button

jovial aspen
copper solar
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morning guys... have nearly finished re-pairing ALL my zigbee ZHA devices after moving from Conbee II to the sonoff 3 stick

jolly narwhal
copper solar
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hehe, I thank you...

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So a v basic question... now that i have a sonoff in place... I can shutdown HA at some point, take out the zigbee stick and insert in to linux PC and run... zigpy -vv radio znp /dev/serial/by-id/... backup sonoff-zigbee.json

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and that will get me a backup of my zigbee network that I can reuse in future ?

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that right - in essence i am asking the noob question, the zigbee network is stored on the stick - that right ?

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i should also probably update the firmware on the sonoff stick right ? bit nervous about that...

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trip to ikea later for more lights and PIRs etc ! haha

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HA sees my sonoff stick as follows... "Texas Instruments CC1352/CC2652, Z-Stack 3.30+ (build 20210708)"

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the conbee II is on the shelf !

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and my house is working great! (mostly) hehe

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Am grateful for further guidance.... 🙂

jolly narwhal
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No idea, I run Z2M which creates a backup everytime I reboot it i think

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Then I have incremental backups of my zigbee2mqtt folder

copper solar
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that sounds sensible... after a couple of days of recreating my network i think I need to back up !

crude otter
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stupid ikea symfonisk volume control thing

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its apparently supported by ZHA, but its not working

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the battery entity always show 'unknown' and its not firing zha_events

copper solar
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anyone confirm I've got the right idea? device database is retained by the stick ?

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so it must have some sort of emmc memory on it that is written

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or such like

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and backing it up (after unpluigghing on another pc) is ok... zigpy -vv radio znp /dev/serial/by-id/... backup sonoff-zigbee.json (edited)
[08:10]

inland coral
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I thought it was kept in HA in the zigbee.db file, but im not sure

sour shadow
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Depends on which integration you use

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ZHA behaves differently from Zigbee2MQTT, and who knows what deCONZ does

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ISTR that the details are in the software and the stick

inland coral
pure karma
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I’m trying to transfer my devices from ZHA to zigbee2mqtt and got a new USB stick. I planned to transfer one device at a time from my old ZHA/USB stick. I started with a new sonoff plus stick and added a new hue bulb to it with zigbee2mqtt. No problem at first but suddenly ZHA hijacked the bulb. I tried to remove it from ZHA but it keeps getting readded. So I tried a new bulb wich also was automatically added to ZHA. I don’t even press add new device it just gets added. Is there a setting to avoid this from happening? I have added a end device, a Hue outdoor sensor to z2m and that works.

gentle flint
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ZHA does not keep the network open. Are you sure on your new stick you created the new network ?

balmy ginkgo
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Hmm i did not know that was a thing.

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I was thinking to maybe upgrade my stick if the newer one is better than my old one (COnbeeII)

pure karma
jolly narwhal
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And you have removed it from the old system?

austere patio
austere patio
fossil plaza
#

Hello everyone, i fairly new to homeassistant and i am currently trying to get zigbee2mqtt working.
i followed that guide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YeObwEZqL4) and i am currently getting those errors:

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-12-28 18:20:33: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-12-28 18:20:33: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-12-28 18:20:33: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-12-28 18:20:33: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:94:31)
at Generator.throw (<anonymous>)
at rejected (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:25:65)

i googled a bit and tried to set the port in the config to the by_id port of my adapter but that didnt work.
does anyone has an idea how to get it running?

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ofc also tried restarting the addon and my homeassistant aswell

jolly narwhal
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Is the coordinator flashed with a supported firmware?

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And what coordinator?

fossil plaza
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i have a conbee2, not sure about the firmware, how can i look it up?

jolly narwhal
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No idea, probably in deconz

fossil plaza
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i dont have deconz installed right now, cause everything else i did with zigbee worked so far

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gonna install it now

austere patio
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You need to specify in your Z2M config file that it's a Conbee

jolly narwhal
fossil plaza
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and where do i do that in the config, as ai said i am new to HA so i have now idea where to look in the Z2M config

austere patio
fossil plaza
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did that, now i get an "undefined" error:

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-12-28 18:34:02: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-12-28 18:34:02: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-12-28 18:34:02: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-12-28 18:34:02: undefined

i added:
adapter: deconz
to the config

copper solar
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i have one of these ikea zigbee repeaters... are they just plug and play ?

sour shadow
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Largely, yes

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Not all end-devices will reconnect though - Xiaomi particularly

copper solar
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need pairing to netowrk though?

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i notice a pin hole

sour shadow
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Well, yes

copper solar
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sorry - basic question

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am trying it now ta

solid inlet
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Has anyone else noticed Zigbee (using zzh + z2m) malfunctioning after upgrade to core-2021.12.6? Had to hard reboot (unplug) the stick...

sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT has nothing to do with HA - any upgrades to one won't impact the other

lilac wharf
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What firmware is on your ZZH? There was a rare lockup bug fixed by a firmware revision

solid inlet
sour shadow
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Yes, but I'm saying that updates to HA cannot impact Zigbee2MQTT

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That's like assuming that putting fuel in your car could have caused your mobile phone to run out of charge

solid inlet
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Oh! Currently running 20210708

solid inlet
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Just asking to understand this better

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Then it could perhaps be the lockup issue, checking for new firmware now, thanks for the heads up 🙂 Hm. Already on the latest... 😧

lilac wharf
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I think it was already fixed in 20210708

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Would be worth upgrading the firmware on the stick anyway though

solid inlet
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But I'm already running that same version? Would there be a point of rewriting it?

lilac wharf
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I know (that's why I said I think it was already fixed in that version). There's a newer version you can upgrade to though

solid inlet
lilac wharf
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Oh sorry, it's in beta. One sec

solid inlet
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Thanks 🙂

lilac wharf
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Make sure to pick the right one based on the table

foggy dragon
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Anyone on ZHA had trouble with updating from the Ikea Test Channel firmware to the Ikea Stable Firmware? I'm trying on blinds and open/close remotes

neat pulsar
#

Hello

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I have a vent with 2 speed

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from an electrical point of view, the vent has L, N1 and N2

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if L is connected to L and N connected to N1 then I have speed 1, and speed 2 if N connected to N2

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I have purchased a zigbee module for curtains

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using the device from the GUI I can managed to have either speed 1 or 2

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however, the card (or whatever it is called) is a bit weird as it considers the openness level of the curtain (which obviously does not exist for me)

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and I can not figure a way of basically controlling what I want (either stop, speed 1 or speed 2)

uneven ruin
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you should be able to override the device and define it as a fan.

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maybe?

neat pulsar
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maybe

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I am having a hard time trying to get it to do what I want sending mqtt payloads that are supposed to replay what happens when I use the physical switches (i.e connecting S1/S2 to L)

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getting stuff like :

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{"backlight_mode":"LOW","calibration":"ON","calibration_time":37.1,"linkquality":55,"motor_reversal":"ON","moving":"DOWN","position":100}
{"backlight_mode":"LOW","calibration":"ON","calibration_time":37.1,"linkquality":57,"motor_reversal":"ON","moving":"STOP","position":100}
{"backlight_mode":"LOW","calibration":"ON","calibration_time":4.4,"linkquality":55,"motor_reversal":"ON","moving":"STOP","position":100}
{"backlight_mode":"LOW","calibration":"ON","calibration_time":4.4,"linkquality":65,"motor_reversal":"ON","moving":"UP","position":100}

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but it seems that replaying does not reproduce the same result

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my understanding is that the position plays some rile here

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role

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now works a bit better

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basically if I say position 100 it will be in case 1

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if I repeat position 100 then it will stop all

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then position 0 will be case 2 (I mean speed 2)

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then position 0 again will stop

wispy pecan
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Could anybody recommend a temp+humidity sensor working over ZHA or zigbee2mqtt?

neat pulsar
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so basically I know how to set speed 1 or 2, but then to figure how to set stop I need to set again the current position I guess

neat pulsar
wispy pecan
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Ahh found that one before, got any with a screen too?😅

jolly narwhal
oak pike
#

Hi all. I have a zigbee Centralite thermostat. I'm trying to find a way to either A) program the thermostat so the onboard temp sensor isn't active so I can use a separate remote zigbee temp sensor in place of it or B) if there's a means to use both (onboard and remote zigbee temp sensor). End goal being I want to stash a temp sensor in a cooler room so it can be kept to adequate levels. So far I'm striking out a bit and just not sure if adding a second temp sensor is possible?

quartz cedar
# oak pike Hi all. I have a zigbee Centralite thermostat. I'm trying to find a way to eithe...

That's likely not strictly possible with most zigbee thermostats. The zigbee portion of the thermostat allows you to set parameters (set point, heat or cool, fan on auto off) and read parameters (set point, current temp, current humidity etc), but the thermostat operates stand alone still (AKA it looks at the set point vs it's internal temperature and operates as though zigbee doesn't exist). The best you could do is write an automation that continues to turn up & down the thermostat set point until the secondary temperature sensor reaches it's intended value I believe

oak pike
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@quartz cedar thanks for that explanation. That helps articulate where my gut/assumptions were starting to fall the more I dug in to this. This may be best for another channel but my only hesitation is if I have an automation playing with the levels based on the status of a remote temp sensor, that feels like I lose control of quickly adjusting the preferred set point of where I want the house to be. (I mean I guess that goes against the point of home automation but I still felt some degree of manual control might be nice on the fly)

quartz cedar
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And now you've found the reason they make zoning hardware for HVAC 😄

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when I was in a similar situation my solution involved limits on both sides, "this room should only get as cold as 65, then turn the heat up a bit" and "this room / the thermostat should never get above 72" (I had temperature sensors in lots of rooms, basically)

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I actually ended up moving the temperature around very little and instead relying on the fan, since it was a forced air thing, it helped even things out

oak pike
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Yeah. It feels more like I would almost need to kick this off with hardware that was purpose built for zones and multiple areas, as opposed to a standard zigbee thermostat that I try to shoehorn in additional functionality.

quartz cedar
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the key really is zone dampers if you have forced air

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so you can limit air to hot rooms and open the vents to cold rooms

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or booster fans, for your cold room 🙂

oak pike
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I do have forced air, but none of the dampers are automated by any stretch.

quartz cedar
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well, at least you have dampers, most aren't so lucky and have no ability to balance anything

oak pike
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I keep them all shut in the area of the fireplace so the fireplace can be more responsible for heating those areas. But that fireplace is close to the thermostat, so, it tricks the thermostat in to thinking the house is warm when really it's just the living room/hallway/kitchen/dining room while anyone in bedrooms are freezing their butts off because the forced air furnace is never firing.

quartz cedar
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have you considered the brute force route and moving the thermostat to a hallway between the bedrooms?

oak pike
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but then the other variable is what if the pellet stove runs out because I got held up at work. Then I have the reverse problem. 😄

quartz cedar
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Sounds like you need some controlled dampers!

oak pike
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well, I've thought about it yes. Relative to other DIY work I've done in the house, moving the thermostat would be easy. Problem is we have a major renovation coming up in a few months and I'm not sure how the design will ultimately land, so it feels silly to move it currently.

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But then as I sit here pouring hours in to trying to figure out the potentials and what if's and whatnot I sit back and think, geez, I can open my app and adjust temp so easily, do I need to automate this? (bearing in mind manual control is still a preference of mine, which if I automate the snot out of this I may limit my ability to do any quick adjustments on my own accord)

quartz cedar
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yea it may just be as simple as "Turn the heat up automatically on the weekends when it's more likely people are in bedrooms during the day, otherwise let me manually adjust it"

oak pike
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Yeah, I thought about that. But our schedules are so random... I mean my wife is out of town with the kids for 3 days, so, the climate control that's best suited for these 3 days is vastly different than the norm. But our norm is anything but normal... She sometimes pulls 16s at the hospital, I often have board meetings that keep me at work from 7a-11p in total, etc.

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Almost makes me wonder if our lives are too chaotic to accurately automate 😄

quartz cedar
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HVAC can be tricky to automate imho, comfortable is typically different between seasons, activity level and people involved. I would prefer a different temperature when I'm watching the football game on the weekend vs my wife when she's got her pile o' blankets on and is watching a movie, despite that being essentially the same activity (in the living room, TV on)

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we've gotten pretty ok with "this room is this temperature during the day/night+season" so, living room is 68 during the day in the winter, living room is 66 during the night in the winter, living room is 72 during the day in the summer, living room is 75 during the night in the summer

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then from there the temperature only changes twice a day (6AM and 11PM) so manual overrides are usually still decently effective

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but we have normal work and sleep schedules, which you do not get to enjoy 🙂

oak pike
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yeah, I hear ya there. The other thing I thought about is maybe getting a power monitoring smart plug since the pellet stove requires electricity and basically rigging up an automation to say if pellet stove is on, adjust set point on thermostat to 78 (to account for the overthrow fireplace heat hitting the thermostat and hopefully get distant rooms around say 71-72 or so), and when power is off (i.e. if the stove ran out of pellets), adjust set point on thermostat to 72

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But I'm not sure how manual overrides play in to that. Like what if my smart plug tells thermostat to go to 78, and I'm like naw dude that's still too cold in this back room. If I drag the thermostat slider to be 80 instead, would it stay put? Or would the automation kick it back down to 78?

quartz cedar
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depends on how you structure the automation

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what will trigger it, a change in state of the power monitoring? how often does that fire? etc

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since you have a thermostat with a temp sensor, I'd just add a temp sensor to the cold room, and do an offset. "Hey it's more than 3 degrees cooler, up the thermostat a bit since we assume the pellet stove is on" that way you could handle if you don't have pellets "hey the offest isn't very big just keep it at 71 like normal as the back room is 70)

oak pike
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Yeah, I did think about that. I may have to play with this a bit. I just worry that I'll automate myself to insanity if I block myself out of manual adjustments. Because at the end of the day if my wife wants to crank the heat and I'm at work in a board meeting where I can't help/respond/etc and she finds my automation rule kicks in to undo her kicking it up a notch, it'll be my neck. 😄

quartz cedar
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WAF is always a concern!

oak pike
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Although I could always do the 2nd temp sensor in the cool room and just... not automate it. Just use it as reference. I could see my little man's room is cooler than I expected, so, crank the tstat up on lovelace manually

quartz cedar
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you could also create a virtual switch that is a condition of the automation, if she flips the switch the automation stops touching the setpoint.

oak pike
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though it'd probably be good to have an automation still running in the background, e.g. if power to pellet stove shuts off, adjust set point to 72 on thermostat

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otherwise I run the risk of the pellet stove shutting off (out of pellets etc) but the furnace still being locked to 78 or whatever the prior high-point was to compensate for the fireplace heat

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there's no telling when the stove may run out. All depends on multiple factors. I could cook a bag in 3/4 of a day or a bag may last me 2.5 days...

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and monitoring power is the only easy way I can think of to know it's running

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if I do this by a separate temp sensor it could still be the heat from the furnace while the stove has been off for hours

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Maybe I'll do that now that I think about that more... I'm okay with automating the furnace thermostat back down to 72 if the pellet stove is off... but I worry about how much oil I'd burn if the stove is off unbeknownst to me and all the while the furnace temp is running hot as per its prior manual setting.

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man you weren't lying about hvac. No obvious answers. 😄

quartz cedar
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home automation should always be looked at with the lens of "Is there a reliable/known trigger for the automation I want to happen"

oak pike
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I did have a hilarious alternative idea. Smart plug with a fan aimed at the thermostat to push some of the hot air away from it. 😄

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if temp above x, kick on. if temp below y, shut off.

quartz cedar
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Always the try the simplest thing first LOL

oak pike
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any idea how often automations run? Thinking like... if I have a zigbee power plug that if it sees no power is detected then sets the temp to a lower value on the zigbee tstat, but then I manually override it, how long can I expect that override to stay before the rule would fire again to overwrite my manual setting?

quartz cedar
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automations run based on triggers

oak pike
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at the moment I don't even have trigger filled out -- just condition and action. Heh.

quartz cedar
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so in your example, it'd probably be power (Watts) above a certain amount (AKA the fan is running on the pellet stove)

oak pike
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ah shoot, did get a little derailed with the original point of why I was here

quartz cedar
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so in that case your at the mercy of how often your plug reports power (many plugs can be configured to report based on % change or only if it changes at least X watts etc)

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but that's pretty under the hood stuff

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one handy thing you could do is include a minimum time, "if the power is over XWatts for 15 minutes"

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via the hysteresis option

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trigger:

  • platform: numeric_state
    entity_id: !input 'power_sensor'
    for:
    minutes: !input 'starting_hysteresis'
    above: !input 'starting_threshold'
oak pike
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It'd be cool if I could rig it up so it only runs one time and never again unless it detects power AND later detects no power again, then repeat the cycle (run once but never again until power is seen/then later not seen)

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but I'll tinker around with that on my own accord

quartz cedar
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You can do that, take a look at the "mode" option 🙂

oak pike
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Oh neat, I'll check that out.

quartz cedar
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I mean, I believe you can do that I haven't done that LOL

oak pike
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thanks for your time. appreciate your insight. 🙂

quartz cedar
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for sure! good luck!

gentle flint
lilac wharf
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Konke can only be used on 11, 15, and 20 though I think

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So channel 25 peeps need not apply

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Oh it's 15, 20, 25

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So channel 11 peeps need not apply

crude otter
outer plaza
#

Is it possible to integrate Conbee 2 tick with zigbee2mqtt?

sour shadow
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Possible, yes

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Recommended, eh

outer plaza
hearty basalt
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hello

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I'm trying to flash a SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus, and the instructions I've found say I have to use use FLASH-PROGRAMMER-2 from TI.
The register page is down, so I cannot download the software.
Is there anywhere else I can download it, or instructions that don't involve downloading it?

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Thanks

sour shadow
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See the link I shared above, it has a whole bunch of flashing instructions that use different software

tame storm
#

I'm using zigbee2mqtt for a while now, since yesterday, I can only turn my switches on through the HA dashboard.
Immediately after that the switch on the HA integration goes back to off while in z2m it appears correctly as on.
So HA doesn't recognize that the switch is on therefore I can't turn it back off.
This behavior began yesterday, did any one encountered it?

hearty basalt
severe scarab
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Hi All,
Anyone have a link to download "SmartRF Flash Programmer v2" not from TI website as it's not possible to register right now to the site "This part of the TI website is currently undergoing scheduled system maintenance." (for a week already)

Thanks

hearty basalt
sour shadow
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No idea, doubt it

hearty basalt
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ok, thanks

violet dagger
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isn't the sonoff dongle flashable with the python script?

copper solar
severe scarab
hearty basalt
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ok, thanks

severe scarab
violet dagger
wintry oriole
#

Can anyone recommend a good RGBW LED controller for bare strips? I got on from Aliexpress but it doesn't really expose the channels as entities and other things are pretty wonky

sour shadow
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I've been happy with the Gledopto ones

wintry oriole
sour shadow
wintry oriole
stuck light
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hello! can some one give a link for radiator thermostat which work with Z2M (without native hub)?

violet dagger
sour shadow
verbal shale
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ppl, i've found those sensores for doors very cheap, like 4.23€ each if in package
Does any one did try one of this? if yes, how is the battery life on those?
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Ao9OrO

violet dagger
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it's a CR2032 battery

verbal shale
violet dagger
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my telepathy skills failed me again

verbal shale
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@violet dagger btw, I did add a few more devices (12) to z2m

violet dagger
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ok... i guess

hearty basalt
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the flash appears to have run correctly

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how do I post the log

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can't find it

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I know there are special charactert

steel sage
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@tame storm I compared my z2m with the HA dashboard and they sync correctly.

violet dagger
hearty basalt
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because I'm not registered, and the registering site is down since yesterday

violet dagger
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so the reason you're using the method for which you cannot download the required software is "because you're not registered"? hmmm....

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are you using google translate so something gets lost in translation?

hearty basalt
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no, why?

steel sage
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@hearty basalt I just installed my SONOFF Zigbee USB Plus dongle and wanted to know why are you flashing new software on the dongle?

hearty basalt
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I'm using the first method: phyton+serial port assistant
and cannot download FLASH-PROGRAMMER-2

violet dagger
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that is not the first method

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that is "Method 2" aka the second method

hearty basalt
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installed Python, ran uartLog.py, with the file CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20211217.hex on the same folder

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point 1.2.1

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can go with 1.2.2 because I can't get FLASH-PROGRAMMER-2, unfortunately

violet dagger
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that's the exact reason why you shouldn't be using that method yet you are

hearty basalt
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do you have any sugestions?

violet dagger
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not really no

hearty basalt
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I think I've figured it out

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I thought that uartLog.py was supposed to send the file
I'm sending the file though serial port assistant, not very clear on the instructions

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now I get a 3 in response?!

violet dagger
cerulean thorn
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Is it true the current version from z2m coordinator firmware doesnt support 20db? I thought I heard it was not implemented yet?

violet dagger
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who told you that!?

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i want a source!

cerulean thorn
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I will try to find it. I think it was on the github

violet dagger
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also which firmware 😛

sour shadow
violet dagger
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damn i need to upgrade

cerulean thorn
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Then its correct since that latest is dev

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I upgraded to dev and noticed no difference

hearty basalt
cerulean thorn
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thats the one im running

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no difference in signal

hearty basalt
hearty basalt
hearty basalt
cerulean thorn
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I guess you should see some higher lqi

violet dagger
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or lower

hearty basalt
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It's my first time using a zigbee dongle...
I don't know what you are saying

cerulean thorn
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lqi is a mystery nobody understands

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I think different sticks report different

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deconz dongle usually report sky high

jolly narwhal
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Lol Conbee

sour shadow
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Yes, different chipsets report it differently

violet dagger
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basically, if everything is working don't ask questions

cerulean thorn
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I have about 60-90 on the core network with a tube

jolly narwhal
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People need more dB?

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Just get a better mesh

hearty basalt
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how do I test if the flash worked?

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if it's running ok

sour shadow
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Yes

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The software you used will tell you if it worked or not

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After that, the software you're using it with will likely tell you what firmware version is on the stick

cerulean thorn
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@jolly narwhal who dont want more db?

jolly narwhal
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There is no need with enough routers Shrug

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You don't want everyone to be a child device of the coordinator

cerulean thorn
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true. after I removed all xiaomi I had a stable zigbee over 3 floors

hearty basalt
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like this?

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py llama-bsl.py -p COM3 -b 115200 -evw CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20211217.hex
Opening port COM3, baud 115200
Reading data from CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20211217.hex
Your firmware looks like an Intel Hex file
Connecting to target...
CC1350 PG2.0 (7x7mm): 352KB Flash, 20KB SRAM, CCFG.BL_CONFIG at 0x00057FD8
Primary IEEE Address: 00:12:4B:00:24:C0:35:A5
Performing mass erase
Erasing all main bank flash sectors
Erase done
Writing 360448 bytes starting at address 0x00000000
Write 104 bytes at 0x00057F980
Write done
Verifying by comparing CRC32 calculations.
Verified (match: 0xba5c19c5)

cerulean thorn
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what software are you going to run on?

violet dagger
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Verified (match: 0xba5c19c5) is verified

hearty basalt
cerulean thorn
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so the zha?

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or z2m

hearty basalt
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z2m

cerulean thorn
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then boot it in z2m and look at the logs. then it show you the version etc

hearty basalt
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ok, I'll try
thanks

sour shadow
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Z2M's UI tells you all about the coordinator - just have a look

jolly narwhal
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I'm still running February firmware

violet dagger
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welcome to the club

jolly narwhal
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Should probably upgrade

violet dagger
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and break everything!!!!

jolly narwhal
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However did you know?

violet dagger
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previous experiences

cerulean thorn
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I had no issues with the latest updates luckily

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got some good improvements like pair from entity

jolly narwhal
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Haven't had issues with my ZigBee network for years

cerulean thorn
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In general its been very stable here too

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but I have not dared to put my hue things on z2m yet

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Also I dont know if ch25 is reduced db as in the us

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I run the hue hub on 20 and z2m on 25

jolly narwhal
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🤢

cerulean thorn
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what now?

jolly narwhal
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20 for z2m, drop the hue hub

cerulean thorn
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Then I have to re-pair

vestal atlas
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Have the lowered tx power on channel 25 been measured somewhere? I doubt that it is actually implemented

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I've been running on 25 for years now, I cannot tell any difference compared to by other network 🤷‍♂️

cerulean thorn
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my 25 and 20 is quite quiet

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but if 25 got some limits I would keep away from it

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26 I KNOW have issue

lilac wharf
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26 allegedly has power limits in the US; I haven't heard the same for 25 though

cerulean thorn
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IF 25 got the same I need to get away from 25

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Is it a reason why hubs like hue can change channel on the fly, while our third party cant. it seems like the zigbee protocol can handle channel change without repair

jolly narwhal
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Proprietary side channel protocols

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I'm guessing

lilac wharf
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I've always assumed it was just transparently unpairing and re-pairing everything

cerulean thorn
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It would be cool if we could replicate it

hearty basalt
#

I connected the dongle to home assistant running on a raspberry pi
It was detected and I must have configured it wrong that generated an error and I can't find it no more

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how can I restart the configuration?

rose vale
#

So I just installed and paired an aqara light switch in my bathroom to control my fan. The switches import into the light domain where I'd like them in the switch domain.

Is there anyway to modify that vs making template switches?

lilac wharf
#

What zigbee software are you using?

rose vale
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HUBZ USB stick & the ZigBee integration

sour shadow
#

ZHA then

rose vale
#

Yes!

hearty basalt
#

do you know how to reset a device in home assistant?

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I miss configured SONOFF-Zigbee-3.0-USB-dongle-plus and now it doesn't show anywhere

tropic depot
rose vale
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@tropic depot RTFM 🤦‍♂️. Working now, thanks!

tropic depot
#

All good there is a lot there

tepid gulch
#

Hello all, I search plug to get consumption in HA, without cloud, if you can advised me for a gateway and a plug (or module)

sour shadow
tepid gulch
#

oki Tinkerer

sour shadow
#

Crossposting is generally frowned on since it can result in a lot of wasted time with different people trying to help you, unaware of what else is going on

tepid gulch
#

I see zigbee plug on aliexpress but I need a gateway to connect the plug to my pi?

sour shadow
#

Pick ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT and your choice of stick

tepid gulch
#

I can post aliexpress link here?

sour shadow
#

Whatever suits, just remember that anything after the ? isn't needed

tepid gulch
#

of course

#

this gateway seems ok

sour shadow
#

That USB stick is fine

tepid gulch
sour shadow
#

Tuya... blobnauseated

#

That also looks to be WiFi, not Zigbee

tepid gulch
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two model

sour shadow
#

Read the description

tepid gulch
#

one is wifi the second is zigbee no?

sour shadow
#

Then you need to check that your choice of ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT supports it

#

Generally speaking Tuya is a shit show, not unlike most of the Sonoff stuff. I'd not recommend it

tepid gulch
sour shadow
#

I've already given my recommendation

#

The thing you linked is just a Tuya rebadge

silent lintel
#

My GLEDOPTO bulb lost power last night, and after plugging it back in and waiting a couple hours:

  1. no longer see it in my Z2M dashboard
  2. Entity not available in HA.
    Should I just re-pair it?
    I'm running z2m in a docker container
fossil spear
#

what do you do when a device is paired with zha but see in the logs all kinds of errors and the device doesn't report status or anything?

neat pulsar
#

the documentation of core mosquitto contains the following instruction "Create a new user for MQTT via your Home Assistant's frontend Configuration -> Users (manage users) , (i.e. not on Mosquitto's Configuration tab). Notes:"

#

does that mean creating a user just like any HA user ?

daring aurora
neat pulsar
#

thanks

odd mango
#

however I don't see a way to set brightness in zha automation

#

anyone had some luch with these or similar switches?

#

ok I see now that I can actually call a service light.toggle with brightness, and t works!

neat pulsar
#

As I sometimes had issues with my CC2531 dongle (it would require power cycle among other issues), I came here asking for recommendations a few months back. I have been explained that CC2531 was not recommended (as explained here https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/adapters/#recommended) and that CC2652P would be a good choice. I have then purchased a CC2652P and my troubles started. The main problem was that many devices were marked as not supported (although they showed as supported with the CC2531)

#

the CC2652P has a recent firmware

#

I would really like to get it working as it was "recommended"

#

so, I have set the CC2531 (which works) on my HA install

#

and just installed a new HA on another machine to play with the CC2652P

#

is there any reason why a device would pair just fine with CC2531 and not with CC2652P ? because I am trying again some xiaomi switches (i.e., trying to pair them to the current system with CC2531 vs. pairing them in the new/test/temporary install with CC2652P) and still have the same issue (pairs fine with CC2531 and hows up as unsupported with CC2652P)

violet dagger
#

Choice of coordinator should not change supportedness of devices in Z2M

#

More likely is that the pairing process is not completed

daring aurora
#

also, check your configs with the cc2652 for the zigbee settings. Is it the same channel and network key?

#

I think you need them to be different (create different zigbee networks)

neat pulsar
#

I made sure they are different

#

just in case, I'll try to reflash the device (it came already flashed when I purchased it). Not sure this will do a miracle but it probably wont hurt

#

trying cc2538-bsl for that

#

and getting error ERROR: module 'serial' has no attribute 'Serial'

#

problem with serial/Serial solved

fossil spear
#

I think zha is assigning my door sensors as an older model and that's why they pair but don't work. not really seeing a way to fixing that cause the device type is accurate

silent lintel
jolly narwhal
#

The name is stored in z2m

#

Always been like that

silent lintel
#

oh!

#

so even though it disappeared from the front end, it was in the db?

jolly narwhal
#

It's in the config file

#

Back before the frontend was there I renamed everything manually in z2m config file before connecting to HA

#

Might be in the db these days too

silent lintel
#

Gotcha. Thanks atxbyea !!!

jolly narwhal
austere patio
fossil spear
#

yes it fails

#

no idea how the pairing process retrieves what the device it is but it's almost like it just assumed it was a diffrent model, set everything up for that model (even while throwing errors during the pairing process) and then said here you go, device configured

austere patio
#

ZHA goes with what the device says. What does the signature look like?

fossil spear
#

{ "node_descriptor": "NodeDescriptor(logical_type=<LogicalType.EndDevice: 2>, complex_descriptor_available=0, user_descriptor_available=0, reserved=0, aps_flags=0, frequency_band=<FrequencyBand.Freq2400MHz: 8>, mac_capability_flags=<MACCapabilityFlags.AllocateAddress: 128>, manufacturer_code=4456, maximum_buffer_size=82, maximum_incoming_transfer_size=82, server_mask=11264, maximum_outgoing_transfer_size=82, descriptor_capability_field=<DescriptorCapability.NONE: 0>, *allocate_address=True, *is_alternate_pan_coordinator=False, *is_coordinator=False, *is_end_device=True, *is_full_function_device=False, *is_mains_powered=False, *is_receiver_on_when_idle=False, *is_router=False, *is_security_capable=False)",

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"endpoints": { "1": { "profile_id": 260, "device_type": "0x0402", "in_clusters": [ "0x0000", "0x0001", "0x0003", "0x0020", "0x0500", "0x0b05" ],

#

"out_clusters": [ "0x0019" ] } }, "manufacturer": "lk", "model": "ZB-DoorSensor-D0003", "class": "zigpy.device.Device" }

austere patio
#

Should work. Does it have any external buttons? Any way to keep it awake during reconfiguration?

fossil spear
#

no

#

I mean it's a door sensor so i just move the magnet away from it etc

#

but it still fails

austere patio
#

It probably fails because the sensor is asleep. Try rejoining it but keep it awake.

fossil spear
#

what do you mean?

#

I have removed and readded it like 3 times

#

I have not tried initializing pairing mode while doing a reconfig though, that wat you mean?

austere patio
#

No, I mean that reconfiguration is just re-initializing the sensor. If it fails, the sensor likely went to sleep before ZHA has a chance to setup binding and attribute reporting to make it work.

fossil spear
#

so should i try and move the magnet back and forth during the whole setup?

#

that would mean the thing goes to sleep rather quickly lol

violet dagger
#

It means exactly that

jolly narwhal
#

That's what you get for buying crap @fossil spear goaFeelsLoveMan

uneven night
#

Has anyone got lucky with setting up conbee ii to zigbee2mqtt? in HA i have google like a maniac but it's almost nothing worth reading.

sour shadow
#

You have to tell it you're using deconz

fossil spear
#

@austere patioGot them working. It was a two pack so I got frustrated and decided to try the second one and it paired and started working instantly, so I removed the first one and readded it and it started working. no idea what that was about

fossil spear
jolly narwhal
#

Nah, Xiaomi/aqara is golden

fleet wedge
#

Is it possible to have home assistant show the correct status of a ZigBee light that was adjusted by a mqtt message?
I have Christmas lights which support 16 modes, but none of these modes are exposed so the only way to use them is adding buttons with mqtt messages, however the light status itself isn't aware of the changes bekend done, and will show the incorrect color, brightness, etc, even won't show the on/off state

sour shadow
#

Assuming you mean Zigbee2MQTT, then HA shows whatever is on the MQTT topics

fleet wedge
#

Yes Zigbee2mqtt, its not showing the topic set for the light

#

Is there anyway to see the set topic?

vestal atlas
#

it's not showing in the z2m ui either so I guess some things are missing in its converter(?)

fleet wedge
radiant steppe
#

Hello !

Just got a pair of hue bulbs.
I already have zigbee2mqtt working well.

Should I use the hue bridge and integration, or zigbee2mqtt directly.

I've read that the hue integration is fast now.

sour shadow
#

Z2M

fleet wedge
fossil spear
#

does endpoint mean the devices aren't meshing and just connecting to the coordinator directly or do they just mesh out of the box automatically?

violet dagger
#

endpoint is at the end of the mesh

#

its a device without routing capabilities

fossil spear
#

is endpoint the same as enddevice?

#

oh nm i see, enddevice is a type that don't route messages

austere patio
fossil spear
#

I thought I saw endpoint, it says enddevice

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I know jack about zigbee. wasn't sure If I had to add them to a cluster to make them mesh but apparently it's just the devices that have to support it from the sounds of it

austere patio
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Clusters in Zigbee aren't related to the mesh itself, they're bundles of functionality. For example, the on/off cluster has commands and attributes controlling the on/off functionality for a device.

silk sphinx
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is anyone here using "friends of hue switches" (gira / senic in this case)?

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it seems like i was stupid enough to install them everywhere in our house - and they're very unreliable 🥵

austere patio
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Are those the Zigbee green power ones that don't use batteries?

silk sphinx
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yes

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sounded better than the hue wall switches

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i found 3 different issues with them:

  • some switches don't seem to send commands on every button press
  • many switches report combination presses when just hitting one rocker "press_2_and_4" when i just hit "4"
  • quite often the "press" messages are lost, then they only report "release_2" and omit the "press_2" message
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my wife is mad and i'm mad as well because they cost a fortune 🙄

austere patio
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I assume you're using Z2M. Do the problem switches show what "parent" router (I think it's called a Green Power proxy) they're using?

silk sphinx
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yes, Z2M. and i don't find any information on the receiving entity / ZGP proxy

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i think it's just sending a signal and hopes any capable device (only hue?) picks it up and relays it?

austere patio
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You're right

silk sphinx
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@austere patio you might be correct, those switches closest to a hue device work best (i'm talking about 2m vs 5m plain air distance - their signals seem really weak). so i need to place more lights or other hue repeaters-
but there is still the issue with incorrect presses reported

knotty frost
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hey im running into a strange problem with a zigbee light i just got (just one ikea tradfri bulb for now) im using ZHA with a CC2531 usb dongle

the problem im running into is that when changing the zigbee light with a scene it only half changes to the new state

say i have a scene that sets the light to 80% red but its currently at 100% white (NOT set by a scene) this works the light changes as expected

but if i have a scene that sets the light to 80% red but its currently at 100% white (set by a scene) the light changes to a halfway mix of both colors and the brightness changes correctly

then if you activate the scene a second time the color changes correctly

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it only happens when changing from a scene to another scene

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and quite frankly im confused as heck and i dont know how to debug this

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as my wifi connected lights change correctly i expect that this a problem caused by either the zigbee bulb firmware / zha intergration / cc2531 dongle

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but i really got no clue

knotty frost
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the light entity in HA shows as the correct color and brightness even if it the bulb has not changed correctly

silk sphinx
knotty frost
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not sure how i missed this

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thanks ill take a look

knotty frost
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thats the output i can see thats related to the activating the scene and the bulb not fully changing

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it changed to the correct brightness but color did not change

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i noticed sometimes it does work so it could it be a signal thing?

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i mean i hope not its like 1m open air between the 2 devices

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but i suppose something could be intefering

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ive also noticed the rgb color wheel seems to be linked with white spectrum

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trying to set a teal just sets solid white

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so im thinking thats probably related

inland coral
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From my experience some devices are just weird like that and you’ll need to trial and error on different lightbulb models to find one that works well. Bad signal quality can also cause weird behaviour like this.

knotty frost
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yea

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im gonna try changing my network to a different channel as its on the default right now and 100% overlapping my wifi

inland coral
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Could help. Also have you tried using service calls instead of scenes to control your lightbulb? For example using the light turn on service

knotty frost
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its 1 bulb

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its a scene because its restoring colour settings across multiple different types of lights

austere patio
knotty frost
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i know

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i only have a few so im just gonna do that

austere patio
knotty frost
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really?

austere patio
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The ZHA channel setting won't take effect unless a new network is being formed, so you can either do the backup/restore or re-flash your coordinator firmware to erase all the settings

knotty frost
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i saw you can set a channel for zigpy in the configuration.yaml file

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oh so i cant just change it in configuration then form a new network somehow

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id have to reflash the dongle firmware?

austere patio
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The "form a new network" part isn't doable without re-flashing or doing the backup thing

knotty frost
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ah seems like a pain

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ill try some other stuff first then

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if it comes to it i will

austere patio
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Reflashing takes like 30s with the serial bootloader flashing utility

knotty frost
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just trying out on ota upgrade on the bulb i have

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ah nevermind its already up to date

knotty frost
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just switched to zigbee2mqtt from zha and its all solved now

royal star
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Anybody have the tuya vibration sensors?

verbal shale
violet dagger
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and you always get what you pay for 😉

verbal shale
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actually their are good xD

violet dagger
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mhm...sure...

verbal shale
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i can show you if you want

violet dagger
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now i'm curious as to how

verbal shale
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by my webcam and video chat

violet dagger
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how will that show me whether they're good?

verbal shale
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or from my youtube channel

outer plaza
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I'm wondering if there are any in-wall dimmers that can work as power usage meters too?

violet dagger
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unless by good you mean: working currently

violet dagger
sour shadow
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You can't tell if things are good until they've had time in use

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Things that appear good can turn out to be crap

violet dagger
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#sonoff

sour shadow
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Like the Tuya water leak sensors, which eat batteries like there's no tomorrow

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Or the Konke sensors that also go through batteries pretty fast - compared to Xiaomi anyway

verbal shale
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i can repost after a year if you want

violet dagger
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the only good "Tuya" device is the BW-SHP13 plug

verbal shale
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by tham, that prce desaperar

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😂

violet dagger
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or you don't repost in a year 🤣

verbal shale
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acctually, I need to open one to see if they are exactly one that ive got a year ago and still work without change battery

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I will check it tonight

violet dagger
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knowing tuya, those devices will either be unavailable or have changed their internals 3 times in a year

fast quiver
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Hey guys, I'm looking to roll my own doorbell setup, via zigbee, Can anyone recommend a discreet zigbee button that can be used outdoors?

violet dagger
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i use a regular outdoor momentary switch hooked to a door sensor

sour shadow
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Your options will vary according to where in the world you are too - what works fine in countries with moderate climate may not work in others

violet dagger
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i do have a sonoff button outside which still didn't corrode

sour shadow
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Sensor on the inside with standard doorbell button on the outside is likely to be a longer term solution

violet dagger
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that's been working for me for over two years

fast quiver
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how does that work then, you have the doorbell wired to a switch ?

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trying to work out where to place the 'smart' part of it basically

violet dagger
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doorbell is the part that rings, there's always a momentary button/switch connected to it

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you disconnect the ringy part and connect a sensor using existing wiring that will tell you when the button/switch is pressed

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there's also versions with a relay where you keep the existing doorbell

fast quiver
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aye i get ya now,

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makes perfect sense , didn't think to look into it from that angle

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cheers

uneven night
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Hello everyone when i try setting up zigbee2mqtt i get error msg the usb im using is conbee ii and it stands that it's supported the msg i get is: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:102:27)
at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:123:29) anyone got any good ide? ive tried for 2 days already and im just sat up a new HA in virtualbox to test again

sour shadow
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Did you add the setting to tell it you're using a ConBee stick?