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also, i shouldnt have any problems over usb2.0 right?

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my servers are only usb2.0

vestal atlas
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usb 2 is actually better 😅

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usb 3 causes inteference on 2.4ghz

peak trout
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I have a combo HUSBZB-1 for both zwave and zibee, i have zwavejs2mqtt setup and now wondering where to go for zigbee

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vestal atlas
peak trout
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is the native zigbee integration enough? what serial path do i use?

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i'm running inside docker

austere patio
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You gotta pass through the serial port to your container

peak trout
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via config.yml

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also, if i get a usb dongle, how do i use it? is it native to hassos

peak trout
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I added ...

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zha:
usb_path: /dev/ttyUSB1

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and it says failed to connect

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should i use by-id instead?

austere patio
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Since you're running HA in docker, have you given the container access to your host serial port?

peak trout
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is zha: the right config.yml still?

austere patio
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ZHA is configured through the web interface, I don't think you can do it with the yaml config any more.

peak trout
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how do i pass the usb through then?

austere patio
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How are you running the Docker image? docker-compose?

heavy basalt
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Is it possible to use sonoff snzb-04 with ZHA or do you need zigbee2mqtt ?

jolly narwhal
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It surely works with Z2M, no idea for zha

spark star
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@peak trout I can tell you that the HUSBZB-1 works well for both Zigbee and ZWave. I have one running on haos on a Pi 3b+.

heavy basalt
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Well it detected it as MS01 so I guess it won't work..

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So I have to somehow make Z2M work

jolly narwhal
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That is easy, with the right coordinator

heavy basalt
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Already had 3 problems following 1 tutorial and it doesnt work at all

jolly narwhal
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Well, the docs is what you should follow

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It should be a 5 minute job

heavy basalt
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Well the other sensor works with ZHA so atleast I got 1

austere patio
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so, should i go with a zzh? or the sonoff cc2652p?

austere patio
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They're manufactured by eWeLink and just have Sonoff plastic

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also, prices are so damn different, why?

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austere patio
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Doesn't matter, the two sticks are functionally the same

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Itead is Sonoff's own shop I think, eWeLink just makes white label Zigbee devices

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heavy basalt
lilac wharf
austere patio
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Because the zzh was one of the first CC2652 sticks and is made by one cool guy in the UK. Sonoff is made by Sonoff.

lilac wharf
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Itead probably gets the stuff in bulk for cheap

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how long does the backorder usually takes to get shipped?

sour shadow
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How long is a piece of string?

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they say that by the end of november should be shipped

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but we are already at the end of november

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so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sour shadow
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A week to go...

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well, should i order? 18.42 with vat and shipping

sour shadow
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That's up to you... it's not a bad choice at all and fairly cheap

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do you happen to have any guide on how to install it? on hassos

sour shadow
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Install what?

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ZHA

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Zigbee2MQTT

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the stick itself

peak tapir
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sour shadow
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The best option is very personal, but either Zigbee2MQTT or ZHA - the pinned message about the differences can guide you

peak tapir
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no power, no temperature; I have tried to reconfigure it, but that process does not start (there is no pop-up window)

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sour shadow
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So... read the pinned message?

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It's there so we don't have to repeat ourselves every time somebody asks

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wich one?

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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-22 20:30:50: - PAN ID: configured=6754, adapter=6754
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-22 20:30:50: - Extended PAN ID: configured=00124b001ccc5fed, adapter=00124b001ccc5fed
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-22 20:30:50: - Network Key: configured=01030507090b0d0f00020406080a0c0d, adapter=01030507090b0d0f00020606080a0c0d
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-22 20:30:50: - Channel List: configured=11, adapter=11
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-22 20:30:50: Please update configuration to prevent further issues.```
I don't get it, so it tells me that configuration is the same but its different, whats going on...?
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this?

sour shadow
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Yes

heavy basalt
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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-22 20:32:46: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms) Is it possible that something is wrong with my adapter?

sour shadow
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You could try deleting the backup of the stick's config

austere patio
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That's an odd one

sour shadow
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Yeah, it says it's inconsistent, but it looks like it matches

heavy basalt
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How can I access console to delete it...?

jolly narwhal
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What adapter is that?

austere patio
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Z2M stores a coordinator_backup.json file in its data folder, if I remember correctly

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Oh, nvm

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It's not wrong

heavy basalt
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CC2531

jolly narwhal
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Bin it

austere patio
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Configured: 01030507090b0d0f00020406080a0c0d
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Adapter:    01030507090b0d0f00020606080a0c0d
                                 ^
jolly narwhal
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Get something useful

austere patio
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I don't think Z2M takes a backup of CC2531s running Z-Stack Home 1.2

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Did you copy/paste the network key config from somewhere or is this the default? How many devices do you have joined to your network?

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so, i read the pin, i think that i will go with zha, since its native to ha

heavy basalt
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default, 1 device

peak tapir
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so, what about my SP-EUC01? am I expected to do some extra configuration to get power, energy and temp readings?

austere patio
# heavy basalt default, 1 device

Well the error message doesn't lie. For some reason your network key either was wrong from the beginning or your adapter's NVRAM got corrupted somehow (0x04 and 0x06 are one bitflip apart).

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Either re-flash the CC2531 or update the network key in your config to the one stored in the stick

austere patio
heavy basalt
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> zigbee2mqtt@1.22.0 start
> node index.js``` Ok I got somewhere, error is gone but now Im stuck there, or maybe thats how it should be

UPDATE: ```Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-22 20:47:01: TypeError: Cannot read property 'payload' of undefined```
peak trout
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i got some 2nd rate (discount) M001 Zigbee smart plugs, with no instruction manual, anyone know how to put them into pairing? I got usb passthru and have zigbee integration, but searching for devices with spinning wheel... 😦

peak tapir
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I don't even get electrical measurements

heavy basalt
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Another 2 errors, whole day to make it work and nothing. Anyone know cheap motion sensor that works with ZHA?

sour shadow
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Xiaomi Aqara

austere patio
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Switching integrations probably won't help with a faulty coordinator

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Do you have your CC2531 on a USB extension cable? They sometimes get wacky when they experience interference.

peak tapir
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@austere patio so, I have to create a quirk for it to function?

austere patio
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It's likely. Compare your device signature to the one in the quirk (and the one in Z2M's converter) to make sure it's the exact same one.

heavy basalt
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@austere patio I tried connecting 2 devices with ZHA and it worked(same coordinator). I dont have extension cable at the moment

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I heard that they were problems with some xiaomi devices, Xiaomi Aqara RTCGQ11LM does it seem ok?

austere patio
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ZHA doesn't check network settings as strictly as Z2M so while it works now, the fact that your network key changed from the default is very strange

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The Aqara motion sensor works fine

heavy basalt
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I got the key working, turns out I somehow edited 1 digit

austere patio
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Did you have the network key in your config file at all?

heavy basalt
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Yes, its default config file. With added server, user and password

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I got no idea what happened but it works... somehow

peak tapir
austere patio
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Looks like it's a different lumi.plug.maeu01 variant. If Z2M supports it (or has something for the 0xfcc0 cluster), you may be able to figure out how it sends this data/allows it to be read.

peak tapir
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I would also like to ask about clusters, for example, Ikea's remote has a custom cluster (0xfc7c), when I select it, I have no attributes to chose from in the drop-down list, does that effectively mean that I cannot read custom clusters?

peak trout
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how can I debug the pairing process?

peak tapir
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also, if I select, for example, Basic cluster, many attributes respond as not supported, why are there in the list? Is this attributes list default for all devices?

austere patio
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I don't believe there's a way to enumerate attributes (will have to double check though)

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What you see in the dropdown is what's listed in the ZCL specification for that cluster, plus any manufacturer-specific additions from quirks

peak tapir
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ok, why then some attributes are not in the list, like SerialNumber(0x000d) and some others?

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Zigbee standard lists 21 attributes for Basic cluster

austere patio
peak tapir
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I see

heavy basalt
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Should the password section of zigbee222mqtt>settings>MQTT be blank? I pasted mosquitto password and it turned blank again

peak tapir
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is there a script/program that could scan all Clusters and their attributes and report, which are supported by manufacturer and which are not?

austere patio
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Also, I think because this attribute is only present starting in ZCL 7

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You could in theory read every attribute from 0x0000 to 0xFFFF on every cluster with zha/devices/clusters/attributes/value (though directly using zigpy would be faster). If Aqara followed the spec, you'd also need to supply the manufacturer code to actually read them. I'm not too involved with quirks so I'm not sure if Aqara uses the Xiaomi one or has multiple.

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Would be easier if you sniffed traffic from an Aqara hub

peak tapir
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do you know which Cluster & attribute is read to get firmware version of the device? I believe I have read each on them, but none of them reported 0x23080631 (firmware version of my Ikea's remote)

austere patio
peak tapir
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Ikea reported - 2.3.080 (which is correct, but not that value), Lumi reported - not supported

austere patio
peak tapir
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I did, for some strange reasons it responded Not supported for all attributes, but just yesterday I did OTA firmware update just fine

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btw, my Ikea remote no longer responds to any Read Attributes command, re-powering does not help 🙂

peak trout
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[0xf503:1:0x0006]: 'async_initialize' stage succeeded
[0xf503:1:0x0000]: 'async_initialize' stage succeeded
0xf503: power source: Mains
0xf503: completed initialization
[0xf503:1:0x0006] ZCL deserialize: <ZCLHeader frame_control=<FrameControl frame_type=GLOBAL_COMMAND manufacturer_specific=False is_reply=True disable_default_response=False> manufacturer=None tsn=1 command_id=Command.Report_Attributes>
[0xf503:1:0x0006] ZCL request 0x000a: [[Attribute(attrid=0, value=<TypeValue type=Bool, value=Bool.true>)]]
[0xf503:1:0x0006] Attribute report received: on_off=1
[0xf503:1:0x0006] ZCL deserialize: <ZCLHeader frame_control=<FrameControl frame_type=GLOBAL_COMMAND manufacturer_specific=False is_reply=True disable_default_response=False> manufacturer=None tsn=2 command_id=Command.Report_Attributes>
[0xf503:1:0x0006] ZCL request 0x000a: [[Attribute(attrid=0, value=<TypeValue type=Bool, value=Bool.false>)]]
[0xf503:1:0x0006] Attribute report received: on_off=0

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is my device broken? what does this out put mean?

austere patio
peak trout
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click which button, how and when?

peak trout
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the button on the smart plug does not allow me to manually toggle the switch on or off, it's always off. which has me thinking it's broken

peak trout
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I did an update config in hass and now neither of the smart plugs in this 2 pack are responding, one can toggle manually with the button on the switch and the other cannot, but neither respond to on/off commands via hass 😦

peak trout
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is zigbee always so touchy?

viral willow
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Hey all, I just learned that I can use hue essentials with diyhue, which interfaces with z2m. Now I just need to get z2m working lol, I had issues with the husbzb-1 stick so I ordered the conbee 2 👍

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Also, diyhue is all local control, unless you use home and away or Google home with it.

lilac wharf
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Conbee wail

viral willow
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Conbee Good, or bad?

lilac wharf
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YMMV using it with zigbee2mqtt

viral willow
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I want to be able to try deCONZ, z2m is being a pain with my nortek

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Sucks I need to try multiple different sticks to try different software lol

lilac wharf
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Yeah the nortek is a no-go with z2m. Anything CC2652 based is a good choice for z2m

viral willow
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It said there is experimental support for it, but it doesn't do anything after handing control to zigbee-herdsman and I get 502 on the interface (with no errors in logs)

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If I have to buy a third stick I guess I will lol

austere patio
viral willow
austere patio
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I forget which EmberZNet firmware the HUSBZB-1 ships with but it's probably too old for Z2M to work with

viral willow
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I flashed the newest firmware already

austere patio
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Hmm. Without debug logs it's hard to tell what's broken.

viral willow
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6.7.8 or something like that, but I'll get some log in an hour or so and show you

torpid root
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I just got a Zigbee RGB strip controller, but it seems that the green and blue channels are swapped between my controller and LED strip. Is there any way to abstract this away in Home Assistant / swap color channels in software? I'd rather not have to solder the pins.

viral willow
peak trout
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My devices went offline when unplugging and plugging back in is there some hub firmware updates I need to do to fix this? restarting hass didn't fix it and they're online

austere patio
peak trout
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i think it is already

austere patio
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If your device appears offline, that means it hasn't communicated with the coordinator in a pretty long time. Are you sure it's still on your network?

peak trout
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can you even edit the baudrate after, it's in the same spot physically i just had rearranged the plugs and it was offline for ~1hr

austere patio
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That reply was to another person's question

blazing dagger
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Anyone know how to prevent the Symfonisk spinner from sending 4-5 events per action

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It doesn't technically matter but it's really bothering me

viral willow
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Thanks so much for that. I can now at least use any of the three methods to figure out what feels best to me now

austere patio
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Yeah, though your coordinator doesn't handle enough data for lower baudrate to make a difference so if it works then it works

viral willow
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Yeah and I only have a handful of devices to begin with so there's that.

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Baud rate speed for serial port, this can be anything firmware support but default is 115200 for Z-Stack and EZSP, 38400 for Deconz, however note that some EZSP firmware need 57600

I wish that last part of the sentence was on the z2m site under the adapter instructions lol

austere patio
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But if the inconsistency bothers you, I'm pretty sure upgrading the firmware leaves the network data alone

viral willow
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I only have like 6 zigbee devices so far so wiping out pairing isn't such a big deal. Imma go play with it now lol, thanks.

gentle flint
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anyone have an aqara motion sensor?

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didnt know if you could set the default detected time

austere patio
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Without a hardware modification you cannot, it's like 60-80s

dusk bough
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word

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know what the occupance sensor is?

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what it uses to say that

dapper moth
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I've heard that it requires a hardware modification, but I have not done a hardware modification, and I can get mine to reset after 5 seconds.

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I dunno if it's maybe a new hardware thing, or what, but a simple python script and automation is all it took.

dusk bough
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oh neat

austere patio
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Does it actually trigger every 5 seconds?

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Aqara sensors only send a "triggered" state and never a "clear" state so when it has the hardware modification, it sends the "triggered" state every 5 seconds. Otherwise, it just sends a single "triggered" message when motion is detected and then might send another one a minute later if there's still motion.

dusk bough
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i just unboxed it, i havent tried putting in it's spot yet

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it appearently switches back to clear after like 1 min

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otherwise it stays on detected

dapper moth
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Yeah, triggered every 5 seconds.

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Worked like a charm for me.

dapper moth
dusk bough
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good nuff

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it's to trigger a stairway led strip

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ITS SO LITTLE

dapper moth
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Yeah, in that case probably don't need anything more frequent.
But if so, that link worked perfectly for me, no hardware mod needed. Just create the automation and add the python script to your set up.

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Of course, I will say, I can make no guarantees it'll work for you. All I can say is it did for me.

dusk bough
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im good

austere patio
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Maybe yours was shipped in test mode by accident 😆

dapper moth
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Maybe 🤷‍♀️ 😂

crude otter
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every 5 seconds?

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sounds... excessive

austere patio
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No change in battery life and you can react to rooms being empty much more quickly

crude otter
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also means you have to constantly move every 5 seconds, or it might think you are not there, and turn the light off (or whatever)

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30-60s is way more sane.

austere patio
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You can have the lights turn off 60s after the room is empty, not immediately

viral willow
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whoa, diyhue is promising. It still needs a lot of work but its awesome already. supports z2m, deconz, HA, tradifri bridge, official hue bridge, and emulates a hue bridge.... and runs local with or without remote api enabled

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has to be on a separate device from HA but other than that \0/

tiny timber
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Anyone know if "Add via this device" works when using a IKEA socket as the router to join from, with an Aqara door/window sensor to pair? Can't seem to get it to detect at all.

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jolly narwhal
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Never had issues with aqara ever

median jasper
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both deConz and zigbee2mqtt gives me 502 error when trying to open web UI (Only one installed / started at a time) Conbee have no errors in the log, but zigbee2mqtt have some errors. Anyone with some good sugegstions?

sour shadow
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Ah, did you look at the link in the paste?

median jasper
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Yes, and the link seems very little relevant compared to the rest of the error message.

sour shadow
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It can't reach the adapter

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How did you install HA and Z2M?

median jasper
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supervisor->addon-store for deConz and HACS->Supervisor->add-on store for zigbee2mqtt. This is both on my supervised and hassos installation (desktop computer and rpi3b) On the rpi I dont have deCONZ but conBEE II integration popped up by itself and is working fine

sour shadow
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Ok, check that the stick is detected by the Supervisor

median jasper
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I can see now the supervisor log is full of "zigbee!"

sour shadow
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Yeah, because the add-on can't find the stick

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Step #1 is making sure that the Supervisor's hardware menu lists the stick

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Step #2 is using the same path - the /dev/serial/by-id/* path - in the config for Z2M

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Step #3 is tossing the ConBee in the drawer and buying a proper Zigbee stick

median jasper
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obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
median jasper
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Zigbee will just be used for a few devices (house if up to the chimney with zwave

sour shadow
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I don't use anything Supervised, so ... I have no idea ... somewhere in the Supervisor menu

median jasper
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and the stick is thee. Same configured under config in the Z2M

sour shadow
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Then check that ZHA isn't using the stick shrug

median jasper
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ZHA is not installed as integration on the supervised installation. (Earlier disable, now deleted)

twilit narwhal
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Do you have a lot of hci connect in host log? If you do, flash a new firmware on the stick from official phoscon website. It solved some issues on my side.

median jasper
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I have noticed this one appearing in the supervisor log every time I try to open the web UI. I do not have that IP anywhere..

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21-11-23 15:43:04 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.api.ingress] Ingress error: Cannot connect to host 172.30.33.11:8099 ssl:default [Connect call failed ('172.30.33.11', 8099)]

median jasper
dull canyon
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I'm having some trouble with controlling a ZigBee device I just added. It's my first time using one and the problem is that the device interview didn't manage to figure out the actual controls for the smart bulb. It has brightness, color and on/off controls but HA just detects a single toggle control called Level, light_color, on_off which turns the bulb on and off. There's clusters (which I think are like Zwave commands?) for all the individual controls but I can't figure out how to add those as separate controls in HA.

For reference:
Livarno Lux (Lidl) LED Lamp, it's a rebranded Tuya TS0505A, detected as Device Type: Router (don't know what that means), it's connected via a serial gateway using ZHA.

twilit narwhal
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twilit narwhal
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Beware of indentation though

median jasper
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I also see the following line in the supervisor log every time I try to open the web UI.. I do not have that IP... 21-11-23 16:03:12 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.api.ingress] Ingress error: Cannot connect to host 172.30.33.11:8099 ssl:default [Connect call failed ('172.30.33.11', 8099)]

dull canyon
# twilit narwhal Remove and readd the device. That happens (quite a lot actually)

Tried that a few times but it still hasn't detected the controls. I found this "Zigbee Device Compatibility Repository" where it lists support from Tasmota and Zigbee2MQTT but not HA. It's apparently a Tuya RGBCCT LED Controller btw. Other devices in the same family are supported (i.e. TS0504B and TS0503B). I'm unsure how difficult it would be to add proper support, my Python is a little rusty. Can I just bind commands to controls somehow?

twilit narwhal
twilit narwhal
# median jasper I also see the following line in the supervisor log every time I try to open the...

You have two errors in your log, first one when trying to connect to MQTT :
[16:41:38] ERROR: Got unexpected response from the API: Service not enabled
Second one tells you your device is already used by something else :
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-23 16:41:57: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error Resource temporarily unavailable Cannot lock port'

Double check if you have ZHA integration running or Deconz addon running. If not you can try a host reboot to clear the serial port.

red remnant
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Hi, I hope somebody can point me in the right direction. I have 3 sonoff/ewelink th01 all off them are connected via Zha and the temperature reporting is working fine. But I never got readings for humidity

twilit narwhal
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(back to the error I had earlier.. )

red remnant
# twilit narwhal The device name is wierd, is it https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Sonoff_SNZB-02.html...

Yes sorry i just looked at the zigbee Id. It’s the snzb 02

Here is the log from an incoming package

2021-11-23 17:01:58 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.api] Received command: AF.IncomingMsg.Callback(GroupId=0x0000, ClusterId=1026, SrcAddr=0xEBDE, SrcEndpoint=1, DstEndpoint=1, WasBroadcast=<Bool.false: 0>, LQI=111, SecurityUse=<Bool.false: 0>, TimeStamp=14251904, TSN=0, Data=b'\x18\xC2\x0A\x00\x00\x29\xC2\x07', MacSrcAddr=0xEBDE, MsgResultRadius=29) 2021-11-23 17:01:58 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0xebde:1:0x0402] ZCL deserialize: <ZCLHeader frame_control=<FrameControl frame_type=GLOBAL_COMMAND manufacturer_specific=False is_reply=True disable_default_response=True> manufacturer=None tsn=194 command_id=Command.Report_Attributes> 2021-11-23 17:01:58 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0xebde:1:0x0402] ZCL request 0x000a: [[Attribute(attrid=0, value=<TypeValue type=int16s, value=1986>)]] 2021-11-23 17:01:58 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0xebde:1:0x0402] Attribute report received: measured_value=1986

Can I get any information from this

twilit narwhal
twilit narwhal
red remnant
twilit narwhal
median jasper
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@twilit narwhal Thanks a lot for your guidance and help! First zigbee device added 😄

dull canyon
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Is there any way to get logs for stuff like custom quirks being loaded for a device? I'm trying to make my lamp work with an existing quirk for the non-RGB version for testing, but I don't know if it even matches on the device or if the file is even being found by HA

twilit narwhal
dull canyon
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that seems to have been deprecated since the map is now part of ZHA proper, but I don't know what it would look like if a quirk is loaded because I don't have a working device

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I feel like the custom quirk isn't even being loaded in the first place because I double and triple checked and the signature is definitely identical

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the guide on how to test quirks in a dev environment uses an addon that doesn't even exist anymore, it's been archived and is discontinued

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Maybe that GitHub readme should be updated

austere patio
dull canyon
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There's actually a color temperature only version of this bulb already supported, the only difference between the one with an existing quirk and this one seems to be the device type. I'll try my luck with that logging thing

austere patio
dull canyon
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I'm trying to do the second one but it doesn't seem to be working

austere patio
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This approach isn't as documented but you can usually copy an existing quirk .py file and load the appropriate classes from the main quirks package (since it uses absolute imports) and edit things that way

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The quirks module debug logging will log what it found in your custom quirks folder

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The quirk will also be listed in the device's page at the bottom or in its signature, if one loaded

dull canyon
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is there any specific place to find the debug logs? cause I'm not getting any debug output on the logs tab in the UI

austere patio
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/config/home-assistant.log

dull canyon
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nvm I got it to load. turns out it won't recurse into subdirectories and I tried organizing the custom quirk folder by manufacturer like the repo does

austere patio
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You just need to add the top level .py file. It only tries loading the top level module.

dull canyon
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gotcha, thanks

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it still only shows a single toggle for level/color/on-off but maybe I can get it working tomorrow

austere patio
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I'd open up an issue in the zha-device-handlers repo, maybe someone is already working on this. Or one of the Tuya experts can help out.

dull canyon
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yea probably a good idea

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I thought it might work if I just copy the existing light and change the signature but I guess it's more complicated than that

austere patio
#

Zigbee2MQTT has pretty thorough documentation for adding support for Tuya devices so maybe you can find some more info in there, though from what I recall it sort of requires using a hub

dull canyon
plush latch
austere patio
plush latch
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I done factory reset, and I managed to connect my zigbee device.

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but, however, only this device is not presented in my mqtt integration in my HA

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🙂

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How can I debug the problem?

austere patio
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It says "Unsupported" so maybe your external converter didn't work

plush latch
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I cant find any errors in my logs

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in my logs I did found was publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Kitchen Gun1', payload ''

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and this is my converter

austere patio
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zigbeeModel: ['myZigbeeModel'], doesn't look right

plush latch
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I grabbed this part of code from website?

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What should be there i stead of this model?

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How to know which zigbee model should I put?

austere patio
#

Z2M will query the model and manufacturer info when a device joins, you have to use those values

viral willow
#

If I were to buy a cc2652p, which is more recommended? The zigstar or the Gio-dot Z-Bee Duo or something else? I think it would be cool to support thread and other protocols, or is that less reliable?
They seem to get quite expensive once you add everything though, what do you guys think is the best setup for range, reliability, software support and compatibility, and ease of setup? Just thinking ahead, if anyone has any input.

I'm assuming they won't work with deCONZ, but will with z2m or zha.

austere patio
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They all use the exact same chip

viral willow
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I got the nortek working with z2m and diyhue, but it seems unreliable and has interference, and when it does work it only works sometimes.

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Yeah, but some have other chips, the modular ones. I wasn't sure if they had other useful features or one was better for range and reliability

austere patio
#

Well from the Zigbee side of things, a CC2652P is a CC2652P

viral willow
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Just don't want to go buy a 3rd and find out later I should have gotten a different one and have to buy a 4th lol

plush latch
austere patio
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What do you mean by the HUSBZB-1 having interference?

plush latch
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I put manufacturer, and model of a device

viral willow
austere patio
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You can do an energy scan with it to check

viral willow
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It has issues at about 20 feet

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How do I do an energy scan?

austere patio
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You just need access to a Python environment and then pip install bellows

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Once you connect the stick, bellows -d /dev/serial/by-id/... scan -e -t 500 --channels 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26 will scan all of the channels

violet dagger
viral willow
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Cool, I'll do that now

austere patio
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It would be best to do the scan from exactly the spot the stick will end up sitting

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You can also find out the current channel with bellows -d ... info

viral willow
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pretty sure im on 11, but ill check

austere patio
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The EZSP support in Z2M is experimental so I'm not sure how it uses the settings in your config file

plush latch
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but instead iof that I should put probably D3W300-ZB-B

austere patio
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I think Z2M is showing you exactly what the device reports, so your converter should use those two values

plush latch
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I managed to connect properly this time but only as a switch

austere patio
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So manufacturer: RT-RK and model D3W300-ZB-B

plush latch
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It looks like I cant pair it as a dimmer

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I managed to connect correctly dimmer mode for my device to Z2M, but funny thing is happening. MQTT is sent when I toggle from my HA dashboard, but if I press from my physical device, no mqtt there in my logs, so, basically, if someone toggles on phisical device on/off/dimm, I wouldn't be able to receive that info on my HA dashboard

austere patio
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You likely need to setup binding and attribute reporting so the device sends this info back

peak trout
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what's the typical range for a husbzb-1 indoors or outdoors? I have a single outlet at the moment (not sure if it's a repeater or not) but it's giving me 250LQI and -70 RSSI only 2 rooms away and seems to be missing message, sloppy on / off state and bad status reports

sour shadow
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Direct range is typically in the 8 to 10 meter range, depending on what's in the way. Could be a lot less.

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If those are brick walls, two walls is at least one too many

peak trout
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and it's also dependant upon Wifi in the 2.4Ghz range?

sour shadow
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Well, interference etc - see the pinned messages

peak trout
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ack, thanks!

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and range related reasons to do a firmware update?

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it's 'new' from amazon this week! 😛

viral willow
peak trout
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yooo, lots of good info in those pins, thanks!

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@viral willow sounds like RSSI to me and I think that's a weak value, but I could be wrong

austere patio
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Yeah, it's RSSI

peak trout
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that's a weak value too, meaning low signal to noise right?

viral willow
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yes, fairly weak and probably the cause of my issues, but ill scan all channels now

austere patio
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Weak is good, it's scanning for noise

viral willow
austere patio
#

Looks like wifi on channel 6, nothing else

peak trout
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those commands are they probing zigbee bands or wifibands?

austere patio
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They overlap almost completely, but Zigbee

viral willow
austere patio
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Any noise on the 2.4GHz spectrum should show up in the energy scan

viral willow
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its a fulll server tower with 6 or so sata drives and everything else that generates noise

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ic

austere patio
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But getting away from stuff like that won't hurt

viral willow
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so i dont understand why my range blows then. I think its maybe 15-18 feet from the tower to my first 2 router bulbs, and from them its another 15 to the next, then 15 to the next and 15 to the next. Only the first 2 bulbs will pair (even allowing join on the first 2 bulbs)

austere patio
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Try a USB extension cable if you aren't using one already

viral willow
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If i move the lamp a few feet closer to the first group, it pairs until i move it back it loses signal

quaint prairie
#

@rapid shale it seems we like the same hardware. It's like the 3rd of unrelated stuff I see your name pop up 🙂 Sorry for pinging you, but I wonder do you still have a HY368 Valve?

viral willow
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I feel like I will end up not using this stick for zigbee in the end, and just use it for zwave lol

austere patio
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If you're having interference problems, the Conbee is the last thing you want to buy 😆

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It took me like 30 minutes of fiddling around with extension cables and various clamps to find a spot where it would be happy

viral willow
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yeah the conbee was just to try out deconz

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ill likely end up with a cc2652p with a decent antenna

austere patio
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The HUSBZB-1's range isn't that different from a CC2652 (I think it actually has better receive sensitivity) so I'd first figure out why you're having issues contacting devices that are not that far away

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Does Z2M expose LQI/RSSI information for these devices?

ashen coral
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I accidentally all my devices from deconz to z2m. I'm not even done yet and already regret not having done this earlier.

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The documentation! 😍

sour shadow
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They recently overhauled the docs, and they went from functional to pretty damn awesome

jolly narwhal
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Z2M master race for sure

smoky hornet
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Note the orange sensor and all the peaks and dips. (Aqara temp/humidity) Bad sensor? Replace battery? The temp for that sensor is almost a mirror image. https://imgur.com/a/1VlN5IB

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This sensor is inches from a s31 zb lite plug. I don't know if that would cause anything odd.

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Pressure actually looks normal on that sensor.

tiny timber
smoky hornet
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I guess I haven't physically verified the temps aren't instantly shooting up 10 degrees in an instant yet but it seems improbable.

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Maybe I'll try moving the sensor a few feet away and see how it changes.

austere patio
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The number of consecutive readings is suspicious

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It's not a single erroneous reading, it's like 10-20 readings and they seem pretty natural

smoky hornet
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yeah you're right and even on those peaks I see individual values climbing up

austere patio
#

Doors or windows opening? Washers or dryers? Furnaces?

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Sunlight hitting the sensor?

smoky hornet
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This is in the upper level. No doors opening. Sensor is away from sunlight. There is a gas fireplace in that room on a thermostat but I don't think it's been coming on.

So let's see :8:04 was 63.7

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8:30 was 72.9

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Plausible that the fireplace could raise the temp that much in 26 minutes I guess.

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I would have been out of bed so I wouldn't have noticed.

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Maybe everything is working correctly.

valid haven
#

hi all !
Is this amount of logs from Deconz normal for a large zigbee cluster ?
https://i.imgur.com/Pi6pGQz.png
Notice the timestamp... it's constantly flooding /var/log/messages. There are no notable issues , everything seems to work fine otherwise. But that's several GBs of logs per months.

cerulean abyss
tropic schooner
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Does anyone here have the new Aqara Hub E1 (Model HE1-G01)?

lilac wharf
viral willow
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Well it does when they are connected, but currently one says 218 and the other says 0 and both are not communicating

austere patio
crude otter
#

I think I'm slowly starting to work out my ZigBee issues

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It seems tradfri stuff works better if connected through a tradfri signal repeater, even if it's further away than the coordinator

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And by adding more mains powered devices (routers) things are a lot more stable

jovial aspen
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ordered a few sonoff zigbee bits on aliexpress for 11.11, they sent me an extra three things i didn't even pay for

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got a zigbee wifi bridge, a button and Basic ZBR3

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for freesies

viral willow
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If deCONZ doesn't work out, I'll get the cc2562 and try that. Maybe z2m just has a ways to go with ezsp, some setting for concurrency or something off beat. I'm down to try a few different ways, and then when I know enough to start helping development I will have a few different pieces of hardware for testing.

left verge
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did you get response of this query. I am planning to get aqara hub e1 for home assistant

worldly spade
#

A couple of my zigbee2mqtt lights got disconnected from my on/off button and it's been about a year since I've messed with my HA setup so I can't remember how to add them, can someone help?

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They're populated again and I tried to add them to the group the light was in but the button still doesn't do anything to the lights that were disconnected

spice kelp
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any recommendations for motion sensors besides the basic aqara ones?

viral willow
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argh starting to think my issues are these cheap azz cree bulbs lol

# 
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vivid sapphire
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Hi, I have no zigbee devices atm, but am looking at RGB LEDs and there are few zwave units, but tons of zigbees. Are they pretty reliable and can you add a zigbee controller dongle to your RPi and be able to control them ootb, or are their various integrations required? Any advice would be appreciated.

obsidian sandalBOT
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@vivid sapphire There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

Command '.zigbee' was invoked by: mstone
vivid sapphire
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Thanks!

ashen coral
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Hm... Just got zigbee2mqtt up and running moving over from deconz. I've added bindings for my Hue dimmers to my lights, and they work. But now I don't seem to get any actions from the controllers. I.e. I can't do any automations based on them. Is this expected?

ashen coral
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Is that just not possible? If so that's an unfortunate dealbreaker for me...

vestal atlas
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That should definetly work. Are you useing a conbee adapter? I've not tried that one

ashen coral
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I am

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I saw something on reddit about it not working because you have to unbind Coordinator from the controller to bind it to a light/group, but you’re saying you’ve done it?

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I’m hovering on the buy button for a zzh or something, but it’d be nice to know for sure if it will work first…

ivory hound
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you can do binds

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no problem in z2m

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i've done it with hie dimmers

ashen coral
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Yes, but can you do a bind AND get the button presses? That’s where I’m failing.

median jasper
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Have 2 IKEA Led drivers 10W and 2 pcs 30W. The 30W included fine and same with one of the 10W.. the second one (with same model) appears as unsupported

vestal atlas
wide nimbus
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I've got constant problems with a hue motion sensor : works for a bit then stops, sometimes resettable, sometimes not etc.
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/9290012607.html#philips-9290012607 states :
"This specific device has been reported to have issues repairing to a Zigbee network after upgrading from a CC2531 to a CC2652 controller (Zigbee 1.2 to 3.0). (Re)pairing may only work after pairing the device to another network and channel first (has been tested with a Philips Hue 2.0 hub in this instance) before pairing it back to the Zigbee2MQTT network again."
Think I'm hitting this issue (or my sensor is just flakey) : Probably a dumb question but is there another way round these resolution steps (I don't have another network)?

molten linden
ashen coral
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I thought of that too. It won't let me add Coordinator to a group

molten linden
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I had to do it via websocket commands with zha so it was clunky but possible. 🤔

jolly narwhal
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I don't use binding for anything though

ashen coral
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The remote doesn't publish anything at all.

jolly narwhal
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It has no state in HA or any action in Z2M no

#

that is expected

ashen coral
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I mean on mqtt. When listening to # I only get state updates from the bound light.

jolly narwhal
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That I do, I do see Z2M publish the presses to the broker

ashen coral
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Otoh, I can only adjust the bindings for like 10 seconds after soft resetting the dimmer, anything after that timeouts. So there's obviously something that's not right with the connection.

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My finger slipped onto that buy button right after mentioning it anyway... so maybe the problem will fix itself in 3-50 weeks.

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Hope it doesn't get here too soon. I feel sorry for my neighbors after last night.

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Decided to re-pair all of the outside lights at 11 PM. Ever tried to sleep while your neighbors entire house is flashing brightly?

cerulean abyss
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😂😂😂😂

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That sounds amusing

ashen coral
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It was cold.

cerulean abyss
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Presuming you don’t have walls or anything stopping light flooding over?

jolly narwhal
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Neighbours can enjoy my lights thank you

cerulean abyss
jolly narwhal
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That would be my house yes

cerulean abyss
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Wow impressive

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Also snow

jolly narwhal
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We had a little last year

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not a lot

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I'm used to 2m+

cerulean abyss
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I’m used to no snow lol

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So any snow is cool

molten linden
#

hue dimmer remote is a bit of a pain in that it can only be bound to one thing, other remotes don't really have this issue, or come bound already to a group which you can then add lights too. and every non-ezsp coordinator will see that group traffic even when not in the group. < so maybe try putting the light in the group and binding remote to the group since you don't have a ezsp coord it may not need to be in the group to see the traffic.

ivory hound
ashen coral
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Tried that too.
But I just tried a completely new Hue dimmer bound to nothing and an old IKEA Trådfri remote. Both connect, negotiate, and then publish nothing.

ashen coral
ivory hound
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deCONZ suks bad on other things 🙂

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this wont help deCONZ case :))

ashen coral
ivory hound
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however leaveing jokes aside

#

i dont see how this would work except if

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you can somehow have button bind on coordinator and bulb also

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if my understanding of zigbee don't fail

vestal atlas
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When you change binding you have to press a button to wake it up. Z2m does not wait until the device talks so the binding will fail if you don't

ashen coral
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So I heard, but for me only soft-reset seems to do it.

ivory hound
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hey @ashen coral

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i just tested if i get any actions for buttons binded with bulb in z2m

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and i do

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i also get those on mqtt since they work in z2m

ashen coral
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Thanks for checking. I'm feeling more and more convinced it's the conbee I causing this.

jolly narwhal
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Conbee 🤢

ivory hound
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yah I am most sure it is

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I struggle to donate one 🙂

jolly narwhal
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here take some free stuff
no thanks

fervent tiger
#

Added powerplug https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/TS011F_plug_3.html#tuya-ts011f_plug_3 to Zigbee2MQTT. In Z2M a lot of information is exposed: state, actual power, current, voltage, energy, power_outage_memory and linkquality. When I have a look in HA I only have 4 entities: switch.xxx (= state), sensor.xxx_current (current), sensor.xxx_energy (total power consumed) and sensor.xxx_power (actual power). How to retrieve the voltage, linkquality and power_outage_memory in HA?

ashen coral
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It made sense back then. When ZHA was laughable in comparison to Deconz and z2m felt like someone wanted to make their own Deconz with blackjack and hookers.

hollow shale
#

I have an issue with deCONZ and Home Assistant. I have three different kinds of IKEA Tradfri remote controls connected to deCONZ that perform different tasks in Home Assistant. The problem is that every event is invoked twice when I press a button.
Does anyone have an idea why this could happen? A restart of deCONZ and HA usually fixes the problem, but after some time it goes back to always firing twice.

obsidian sandalBOT
hollow shale
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This is shown in HA after clicking the remote control just a single time

fervent tiger
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About my question. I used the Dev tool MQTT: Dump to see logs for 1 minuit from the device but the file remains empty.
In Z2M my device has the name 'Diepvries'. Do I have to listen to the topic Diepvries?

upper verge
#

Does anyone know how to trigger the "alarm-panel" component that gets added when you add a Zigbee security keypad? I've tried with the service and with the device action. Neither works.

shrewd lintel
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Hey all, I've just installed the Nortek zwave/zigbee usb stick and enabled ZHA. The sengled smart plugs (E1c-NB7) showed up right away, but when trying to set up an automation to turn on a light at a specific time, there is no on/off type option. I don't have a sengled hub, just the Nortek stick.

jolly narwhal
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You mean switch.turn_off ?

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If you want to turn off said plug

shrewd lintel
jolly narwhal
#

If it is detected as a switch in HA that would be all you do

#

You call the service I mentioned

shrewd lintel
jolly narwhal
#

That's pretty unusual, but I don't use zha

shrewd lintel
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or it was a browser cache problem

verbal shale
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hey ppl, i need some help with that

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cant pair with z2m at all

fervent tiger
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I have this log in Zigbee2MQTT: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Diepvries', payload '{"current":0.29,"energy":0.56,"linkquality":60,"power":41,"power_outage_memory":"on","state":"ON","voltage":235}'I have 4 entities in HA, automatically created, without specific configuration. Does anyone knows how to 'make' entities from the missing payloads?

sour shadow
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MQTT sensor

verbal shale
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not working with z2m at all

#

-_-

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db: {"id":26,"type":"Unknown","ieeeAddr":"0x00158d0005a267f7","nwkAddr":6711,"epList":[],"endpoints":{},"interviewCompleted":false,"meta":{},"lastSeen":1637787290949,"useImplicitCheckin":true}

fervent tiger
winged granite
#

I have so many problems with zigbee lately. Disconnecting sensors, actors refuse to pair etc. Using ZHA. Is z2m more stable or is this just zigbee?

verbal shale
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is your coordenator the best for z2m?

jolly narwhal
#

I have had no issues with my ZigBee network for over two years

#

Running Z2M on proper TI sticks

winged granite
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Sick. Would love to say the same :D i am using the new sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle

violet dagger
#

Ahhh Sonoff....

viral willow
#

So, USB extension cable added, and it seems to have helped stability between the first set of devices. Still can't connect cree to cree about 18 ft apart with clear LoS

winged granite
#

Is the sonoff dongle bad? Also had the cc2531

jolly narwhal
#

That one is horrible

violet dagger
#

It's... Unproven

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But historically sonoff ZigBee stuff was bad

verbal shale
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buy a zzh

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😛

jolly narwhal
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Zzh is great, so is cc1352p2, both have served me well

viral willow
verbal shale
#

@violet dagger can u help me with the Q-remote?

winged granite
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@viral willow i thought it looks very good :D with the nice metal case. My cc2531 had no case at all :D

jolly narwhal
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Cc2531 is a good doorstop

viral willow
violet dagger
#

everyone falls on the price then the stick they shouldve bought in the first place becomes even more expensive

viral willow
#

Any cc2562p that ship from the US? Don't want my device stuck on a container ship off the coast lol

violet dagger
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parts for the devices shipped from the US are stuck in the same container

jolly narwhal
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Order directly from TI smart

viral willow
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Lol I guess so

viral willow
winged granite
#

@violet dagger whats your suggestion? Which one is the best in your opinion?

jolly narwhal
violet dagger
#

i use zzh! for over a year now

jolly narwhal
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Zzh is great

molten linden
viral willow
jolly narwhal
viral willow
molten linden
#

there is a waiting list, which I'm moving through quickly.

jolly narwhal
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He's making a list

molten linden
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had a few weeks with no supplies so playing catch up

jolly narwhal
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Checking it twice

verbal shale
#

i have mine zzh for a year

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5*

cerulean abyss
#

What’s the best place to buy one that’s not going to kill me to ship to australia

molten linden
#

$15 for shipping from me.. but takes 4-5 weeks.

cerulean abyss
#

What’s your website?

molten linden
cerulean abyss
#

4-5 weeks is average 😂

#

Awesome!

#

Will keep an eye out

molten linden
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waiting list link on the main page, will email when I have it.

#

likely week or 2 from now

verbal shale
#

@violet dagger this is not working in z2m

viral willow
violet dagger
#

ok and?

viral willow
violet dagger
#

i'll get back to him once my crystal ball is back from its regular service

viral willow
verbal shale
#

@viral willow actually I gave, i did not repeat the info =/

#

just scroll a litle bit up

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db: {"id":26,"type":"Unknown","ieeeAddr":"0x00158d0005a267f7","nwkAddr":6711,"epList":[],"endpoints":{},"interviewCompleted":false,"meta":{},"lastSeen":1637787290949,"useImplicitCheckin":true}

viral willow
#

Factory reset the remote? Try it closer?

verbal shale
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already did it

viral willow
#

Factory reset and force remove*

#

Idk then. Sorry. Search Google for other people's issues with the remote's model number and see if there are other people with the same issues, and if they were able to solve it.

violet dagger
#

what is the modelid reported?

verbal shale
#

dunno @violet dagger

#

it just show that when i try to pair

#

nothing more

violet dagger
#

if you dunno then z2m dunno either so it cannot configure it

verbal shale
#

ok, any ideia how to get the model id?

violet dagger
#

by pairing it with z2m

verbal shale
#

if is not pairing

#

it just start the enterview

#

and nothing more

#

it fails

violet dagger
#

then try the z2m troubleshooting steps for devices that don;t pair

viral willow
#

I would also change the log level to debug in config

cerulean abyss
#

@violet dagger what would you say is the best product you sell for zigbee in HAOS. Curious on what you would recommend

violet dagger
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none, i don't sell anything

viral willow
#

@verbal shale

  log_level: debug```
verbal shale
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not help

cerulean abyss
cerulean abyss
molten linden
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They all use the same Zigbee cc2652 module (right now at least). If just need usb I’m just making one version now that can be upgraded later to Ethernet if desired. Or you can get it with Ethernet included. Otherwise people love PoE.

cerulean abyss
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(And also how much is shipping)

molten linden
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Yes

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Shipping is $15

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For faster shipping it’s about $45

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Both are fully insured should it disappear on its journey (can’t say it hasn’t happened but have sent a good number down to Australia with only 1-2 issues)

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Feel free to direct message me any more store questions

verbal shale
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cannot find modelid

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the pair mode dont show modelid in logs (debug or not)

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how I can find the modelid?

cerulean abyss
molten linden
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fun fact... I've sent more shipments to Australia than any single US state mindblown

violet dagger
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poor ozzies, noone making sticks down unda

molten linden
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And the UK is only 5 behind the top state.

cerulean abyss
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Like finding Australian certified electrical stuff is hard

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Especially if you don’t want Tuya

violet dagger
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but you got smarthousetv hq

cerulean abyss
inland coral
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Isnt everything made in china anyway?

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Just buy from alibabawish express

cerulean abyss
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So for that stuff I prefer Australian certified only

jovial aspen
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#nannystate

viral willow
viral willow
cerulean abyss
# jovial aspen #nannystate

I don’t mind the certification.
It’s the red tape that I hate associated with any sort of wiring whether it’s Ethernet runs or whatever. I just want to DIY not pay an electrician $$$ to do the same stuff 😂😂

jovial aspen
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The sector is over regulated for sure

cerulean abyss
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Honestly if it was easier to get a certification to do basic stuff in the home (Ethernet runs/ replace a light switch or power point) then I would support it. Keeps idiots from touching it and makes sure people know what they’re doing without having to spend a fortune. But it’s just designed to keep everyone out

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(At least just like make ethernet/ network cabling a simple & cheap course if they don’t want to get rid of the red tape. Then would make things a lot easier to DIY)

lilac wharf
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You can't even legally run low voltage cable without some sort of certification? Dafuq

cerulean abyss
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Or if it’s over 120v DV or 50v AC

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So if the Ethernet was a pure air gapped network then I could do it. But as soon as I even have the intent of connecting to infrastructure in some way (even through a router) the law hits

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Dates back to old phone lines where a) you could hurt yourself and b) if connected wrongly could damage equipment

lilac wharf
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that's ridiculous

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i mean, the origin of it makes sense

smoky hornet
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Anyone know of a good discord for hunting down network issues with tcpdump?

cerulean abyss
# lilac wharf that's ridiculous

Yeah. Like it’s a lot harder to break stuff now. Would definitely be nice if we could change things ourselves. Probably not given there’s the electricians, licensed cablers, and the places doing the courses wanting to keep their free money

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You can get around the rules though, if you take the Ethernet cable and just like tuck it between the carpet and the wall or similar it’s not permanent. So doesn’t come under the law

jovial aspen
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Or if your house catches fire because of your dodgy DIY work, you just make sure the flames reach a whole heap of stockpiled fuel so it reduces the place to cinders and destroys the evidence 🤷‍♂️

cerulean abyss
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Yeah can’t see how my Ethernet wiring could cause fires, but also I will be living in an apartment and I don’t want the body corporate to be all digging into what I do in case they complain

vale surge
#

Hi peepz. I have migrated away from ZHA and have attempted to move to Z2M using a Conbee II on a Pi4, however I cant get Z2M to find my stick (/dev/ttyACM0)
I have tried both ZHA and Deconz and both find the stick. I get: Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-24 07:53:19: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-24 07:53:19: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-24 07:53:19: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/FAQ.html#help-zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-24 07:53:19: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-11-24 07:53:19: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:102:27)

I am on Hassio 2021.11.4 and have a laptop power supply connected to the Pi4 and the Conbee is on a USB extension (as I said ZHA and Deconz both find the adaptor)

Any pointers?

twilit narwhal
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right now it's trying to connect as a zstack according to your log

vale surge
viral willow
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So... Is the range on cree bulbs trash or what? The last 2 bulbs in my chain just refuse to work. I measured now and it's actually 12 feet from the nearest working cree bulb lol wtf

vale surge
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Oh man - thats just crazy...... I did read the FAQ and it does state serial: adapter: deconz in "configuration.yaml", which is where I put it [config.yaml of HA] and of course it doesnt work
But when its put in the configuration of Z2M it does work

Many thanks.....

vale surge
viral willow
vale surge
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ok, sorry to say but z2mqtt is not very reliable compared to Deconz on a Conbee II. Just installed 6 globes in HA (all in a hallway about 6ft apart) and when you turn them on and off together at the same time Z2M misses some of the globe responses and its not very consistent as to which globes it misses. In the logs it says that the specific globes did not respond (when they actually did execute the command)
Snappy, Yes it is. Consistent it is not.

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Its actually on par with ZHA

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In my case I have 80 globes to install so across such a large network its not going to cut it

sour shadow
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The ConBee is marked as experimental on Z2M for a reason

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For multiple lights though, use a Zigbee group and your problems should vanish

viral willow
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And, being a home server , rather than an enterprise cloud service, ALL of it is experimental. The experiments have just become fairly efficient.

sour shadow
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I feel the need to disagree, then look at the roll of the dice that happens every time you upgrade firmware/software...

vale surge
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I definitely am not contending it - yes totally understand and accept the experimental part - which is why Im heading back (reluctantly) to Deconz due to Wife Expectation of 100% working 99% of the time.
This is a new deployment in a new condo and some of this is because in our previous condo I was running ZWave dimmers which were bulletproof. In this new deployment Im unable to get the same Zwave dimmers into the switch box, plus I dont have the access to wall cavities as I did in the previous place - hence - I am forced to run individual globes.

But the Wife Expectation remains the same - Its gotta work.

sour shadow
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With a CC2652 I've had few reliability issues with Z2M - I get some occasional issues with Konke devices, but nothing else

vale surge
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So the next question is: Has anyone run 2 conbee sticks on one Pi using two different deployments (eg: Deconz on /dev/ttyACM0 and Z2M on /dev/ttyACM1)

The reason for this is that I need to run Tuya 4 way scene switches (which have a bug using Deconz where the switch turns every light in the house on) but work perfectly using ZHA/Z2M

sour shadow
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People have in the past, works just fine

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I ran two TI sticks for a while, and technically still do even if one has nothing paired

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Just... use the /dev/serial/by-id path, not the other one

vale surge
sour shadow
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Nah, you can only run one ZHA instance

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You can mix and match Zigbee integrations, or run multiple Z2M's easy - and they even document how to

austere patio
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If you're planning on using a second coordinator with a non-deCONZ integration, use something other than a Conbee

sour shadow
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Avoiding interference just becomes more "fun"

vale surge
obsidian sandalBOT
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@vale surge Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

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sour shadow
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There's no point in using Reply, turning the ping off and then manually pinging me... that way just leads to the blocklist

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Routing however is handled by the devices AFAIK, not the stick or the software

austere patio
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For the most part, the coordinator has no control over routing. It can decide how to send packets (I believe only if you enable source routing in deCONZ) but how they arrive is up to the sending device

vale surge
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sorry - am not really familiar with discord

median jasper
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I have 2 pcs of IKEA ICPSHC24-10EU-IL-1 (Led power supply 10W. One of them is discovered and included properly, the other is not. They are same model but by the looks and serial number it appear that they are not produced the same day or week.

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They both work well in Phillips HUE (and earlier IKEA Trådfri) and have all the same functions

marsh walrus
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I have a Connbee, ZHA and some Philips Hue dimmers (RWL021). Most of my dimmers, when you press the "0" key, send 3 reports, which ZHA translates as "off_with_effect", "off_short_release", "off_press". One of them only sends the "off_with_effect" event. The blueprint I'm using acts on the "off_short_release" event, so for that controller, the off button doesn't work.

If you hold the "0" button, most of the dimmers send continuous reports, and then a stop event when you let go. The odd one out still just sends the single "off_with_effect" event, no matter how long you hold it.

Any ideas what's happened to this odd controller? Is there some setting that's got messed with? I've tried resetting it via the setup pin, and by holding all 4 buttons for 10 sec. No change in behaviour.

marsh walrus
rancid sky
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Hey guys, I have a SmartThings button and it’s being slow, whenever I press it, it takes like a full second for it to detect it in HA.

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Is there a reason for this?

lilac wharf
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how is it connected to HA?

rancid sky
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One of these

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And zigbee to MQTT

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I only have 2 devices on my network

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It seems like the lag is coming from the button, my smart bulb I’m trying to control is almost instant from the UI

lofty junco
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hey yo 🙂
Wanting to install zigbee2mqtt and saw a recent yt video that shows the "supervisor" option in the sidebar, which i don't have. any idea what this is about? Did that change recently in homeassistant or do I need to install something in addition to homeassistant?
This is the video i was trying to follow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMPtBvctvEU&ab_channel=SmartHomeProjects

sour shadow
sour shadow
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You don't need it

lofty junco
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the server is up, i finioshed the onbaording. but the supervosir tab is just missing

sour shadow
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Well, it's not missing

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Missing would imply it should be there

lofty junco
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Oh... uhm... ok, how can i install the zigbee2mqtt then? Got a network adapter from the user "tube" here 🙂

lilac wharf
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Just like you installed HA

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Grab a container image and go

lofty junco
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uh... I saw in the yt video that there was an addon-store where one could easily install those addons... isn't that addonstore available in my case?

lilac wharf
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No

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Not with a regular HA Container install

sour shadow
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I mean, Zigbee2MQTT has a website, with documentation...

lofty junco
# sour shadow I mean, Zigbee2MQTT has a website, with documentation...

so sorry, I was confused because I thought I would have an addon store available so i would not need to go through those manual steps^^°
But alright, i will follow those steps then 🙂
And just because I'm new to this: zigbee2mqtt is the "bridge" between HA and the zigbee-network adapter i got, correct?

sour shadow
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Yes

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If you feel that you must have add-ons then you'd need to be able to run a VM on your NAS

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Personally I've never missed them

lofty junco
sour shadow
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Integration != add-on

obsidian sandalBOT
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An add-on is a Docker container with tweaks to allow it to be configured in the Supervisor UI. It is only available in the Supervised installs (#330990055533576204 and #330944238910963714) since if you've used any other install method you're able to install software already.

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Integrations integrate Home Assistant with devices or services, or provide functionality within Home Assistant. Add-ons provide additional software or services, which an integration could possibility integrate with. Add-ons are for Home Assistant OS and Supervised only, other install methods can install software other ways.

Command '~integration' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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Other software you have to install manually, sure... compared to the whole home automation thing though it's not hard

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||Or if it is hard you should probably reconsider home automation||

sterile sleet
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its usually just a matter of writing a few lines in docker-compose to install the original software contained in addons or whatever you like with docker

lilac wharf
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Doesn't need to be docker compose specifically, but it is very nice

sterile sleet
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everything else is additional pain ☎️

lilac wharf
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☎️ ❓

sour shadow
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Not using Compose is like eating bacon without brown sauce ... you can, but why?

lilac wharf
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Agreed though. I could never not use docker-compose at this point

twilit narwhal
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@lofty junco If you think this is hard, you could still assemble a raspberry Pi or a VM and install Home Assistant OS or Home Assistant Supervised, then you'll have one click install in the addon store from the Supervisor tab.

vestal atlas
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when the docker compose does not do anything more than a normal docker run command it's basically just adding a layer on top

sterile sleet
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how do you modify a running containers volumes with native?

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right, with pain

sour shadow
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We all hate having our running Docker configs well documented so you can easily change things, or help others

lofty junco
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i'm a software developer with lot of experience with sys-integration, i should be able to do this 😉 it would have just been more comfortable and less error prone to use a one-click installation for addons, but yeah, manual install is fine

vestal atlas
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I have a bash script that pulls latest, stops the container, removes it and starts a new. So I'd just edit the run command in the script

sterile sleet
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your bash script is just a homebrew docker-compose then

vestal atlas
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I have not used compose other than what Ive had to at work tho, so maybe Im missing out 😅

sour shadow
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That's all Compose is - a wrapper for the Docker command

lilac wharf
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You are missing out

sour shadow
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And in the latest version it is the Docker command

lilac wharf
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I couldn't imagine maintaining docker run commands for 10+ containers

sterile sleet
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nah, lets reinvent the wheeel

lilac wharf
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Wheee

lilac wharf
sour shadow
vestal atlas
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Well if the old wheel is an extra python program that, I'd rather use my 4 lines bash file 😅

sour shadow
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Not any more it's not

sterile sleet
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i would like to see your script managing networks too, kind sir, mind you, 4 lines

vestal atlas
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Really? Well I've mostly used Podman lately

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I don't have that advanced infastructure running at home so have not had to deal with docker networks. Just expose whatever port is needed has been enough 🙂

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Don't forget the super weapon, --net=host 🙈

versed palm
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I have paired a sonoff plug to HA using conbee but its got the domain of light instead of switch. Is there a way I can change that? When i change it, it states “domain needs to stay the same”.

sour shadow
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You forgot to read the topic and answer the question in it

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ConBee is just the radio

versed palm
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Zha

inland coral
jolly narwhal
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Yeah, don't do watchtower 🤢

vestal atlas
inland coral
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Well memed

teal walrus
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Does anybody have any experience with the Aqara Water Sensors? I connected a few last night and it was working great. I ran some updates for hass, rebooted and now they're all showing as disconnected. My other zigbee devices are showing as connected and tested OK even after the reboot with no intervention. Is it standard for these devices to disconnect?

jolly narwhal
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well, is your mesh strong ?

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and what integration are you using ? with what coordinator ?

teal walrus
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Conbee 2, ZHA

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Yeah the connectivity should be strong. I have other devices in the same area with no problems

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I can reconfigure the devices every reboot, but I mean - that's annoying. And these water sensors are put in spots that aren't always easily accessible

jolly narwhal
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powered devices ? that are actually routers ?

teal walrus
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Yeah I have a few plugs that should be extending mesh connectivity

jolly narwhal
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then, something isn't right

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they shouldn't disconnect, unless zha displays stuff differently than z2m

teal walrus
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I did update hass core, maybe some got borked there

jolly narwhal
teal walrus
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Do you use the same sensors? Do they always reconnect upon reboot?

jolly narwhal
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I have never had a zigbee sensor be disconnected, unless it was dead

teal walrus
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Batteries are fresh. When I recieved them I replaced the ones it came with with some Duracells

vestal atlas
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I've not used zha, but maybe just wait a bit and see if they come back

teal walrus
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I'll try re-configuring it this time and chalk it up to luck

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It's been a few hours now @vestal atlas

jolly narwhal
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does not sound normal

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but it isn't the first time I've seen people with conbee have strange issues

teal walrus
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Could be. Weird that all my other zigbee devices are OK though

jolly narwhal
teal walrus
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Haha strange! I'll re-configure. Thanks guys

median jasper
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z2m with hue light strip, hue remote and have created a group. As far as I can see I have to send 2 mqtt messages. one with adding the lightstrip to the group and second to bind the remote to the group. 1. Where do I send this message? 2. Any option to do this in the UI?

peak tapir
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Has anyone got a notice that your Sonoff Dongle Plus was shipped? The note about backorder on their page is gone today.

median jasper
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example: '1':
friendly_name: vaskerom
devices:
- 0x001788010217dc94/11

sour shadow
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Bottom of the page, you can submit edits

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You should quote strings however

median jasper
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im a newbie so wanted it confirmed before I did any changes 🙂

sour shadow
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I don't know that you're right, or that you're not

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This can be the ieeeAddr of the device or the friendly_name suggests that it doesn't include endpoints

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That said...

'1':
  friendly_name: living_room_lamps
  devices:
    - 0x5c0272fffe799826/1
    - 0x90fd9ffffe66411b/1
    - 0x90fd9ffffe5b4509/1
median jasper
#

my example above is after adding light from the UI and seems to be right

sour shadow
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That's my own one, from the UI

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It may well be that the endpoint is optional

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Quotes are always optional, except when they're not

median jasper
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correct, then instruction screenshot is wrong as it includes ' '

sour shadow
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That's not wrong

median jasper
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I tried editing the file first and it did not show up any devices in the group

sour shadow
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You should quote strings, you don't have to unless they contain something that would make them special

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Libraries that write YAML tend not to quote strings unless it's necessary

median jasper
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okay my group was empty until added from the ui..

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how do you wake up a remote .. for instance hue dimmer remote

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assume it has to be woken up to bind/unbind?

sour shadow
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I'd assume so - and I'd guess that you can push the pair button briefly - that's how most work

median jasper
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yeah, tried the "setup button which is the "only one".. but seems like I only get failed (no response received))

dawn sable
#

What are the best RGB bulbs to buy for use with ZHA? I’ve had pretty poor success with my Sengled bulbs. They work fine initially but then drop off the network eventually.

obsidian sandalBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
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sour shadow
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Best is likely to be Hue, but they're also expensive

dawn sable
#

Makes sense, many years ago I used Hue almost exclusively and never had an issue. Just wasn’t sure if they played nice with ZHA because they were really made with ZLL in mind right?

worn zodiac
#

anyone have any experience with Orvibo Zigbee Scene Switch? I picked one up and home assistant sees but has no details to use any of the switches

violet dagger
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what kind of experience are you after?

daring spear
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I just got my zzh from electrolama and have followed the instructions + google to (hopefully) set it up as it should be.

My issue now is getting it into home assistant. I am running HA on VirtualBox so I am trying to use "Serial Ports" to be able to pass through the stick to HA but I can't seem to get it to work...

TLDR; How do I install my zzh stick to home assistant when HA is running in virtual box?

austere patio
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It should show up as a USB device if you pass it through as a USB device

daring spear
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Do I have to do any settings on the usb passthrough?

austere patio
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I don't think so. Last I used virtualbox with a CC2531, I just passed the USB device through. There wasn't any serial port configuration.

daring spear
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It seems to have come up, thanks @austere patio !

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Now I just have to figure out the rest of the configuration in HA

tropic depot
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The only time I have seen these drop is when I had rogue devices causing storms of nwk address conflicts

daring spear
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I managed to pair an IKEA button and have it control my Govee light. Big thanks for the help @austere patio @mystic copper

lofty junco
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Hey again 🙂
I have HA installed on my Synology NAS (docker) and now i'm trying to install zigbee2mqtt on my NAS via docker too.
I'm following the docs and got to the point where the config-yaml contains the server: 'mqtt://localhost' entry. Is that url meant to be the zigbee2mqtt server, the HA server or the ip of the network zigbee stick that i got?

inland coral
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IP address of the MQTT server ofc

lofty junco
inland coral
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Go for the ZHA (zigbee home automation) integration instead. Much easier to set up if you’re new. Does the same thing

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Can install it out of the box in HA

dawn sable
lofty junco
inland coral
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Of course you can

tropic depot
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Is there anything in your log when they fall off?

lofty junco
inland coral
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That docker container?

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What is your goal, run HA and use it with some zigbee devices?

lofty junco
inland coral
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Oh. Ok. Well, in home assistant, add integration, select ZHA, and see if it can work with that coordinator.

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If not, then I suppose you will need to run a mqtt server container and then zigbee2mqtt container too

lofty junco
visual acorn
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Just out of curiosity .... do you guys (zigbee, I mean) talk to the zwave guys?

inland coral
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Nah, screw these guys

visual acorn
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🤪 😆

#

I asked a few questions there and @ruby kayak was very helpful - but I'm curious to understand different points of view.

austere patio
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The specific port depends on what your coordinator listens on

lofty junco
inland coral
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Yes

austere patio
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Yes. 4567 is an example though, it probably won't work

lofty junco
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do i even need the zigbee2mqtt docker instance then? or is this enough for HA to handle everything?

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yeah, ip and port would be needed to adjusted, i know

austere patio
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If you don't plan on using Zigbee2MQTT, then you can get rid of the container

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ZHA and Z2M can't both use the same radio

inland coral
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If ZHA works, then you dont need z2m

lofty junco
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well, basically i want to have HA running and have it be able to handle all zigbee devices like thermostates/valves, lights etc, so i can get rid of propertiary hubs

inland coral
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You’re on a right track, good luck

lofty junco
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nice! just for understanding/learning: If i would have a usb-stick for zigbee, then i would need to have some zigbee2mqtt server running, which "manages" the usb zigbee stick? But since i have this coordinator on my network, that basically does the managing and so i can just link HA to that ip/port and it should work?

inland coral
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No, you can use ZHA with a isb stick too.

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Second part is still true.

lofty junco
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hmm... ok, what benefit does the zigbee2mqtt would have then?

inland coral
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Its just different software

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Does the same thing as ZHA, controls the zigbee coordinator device, whether its a usb stick or a standalone network coordinator

lofty junco
inland coral
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No, you still have to use HA, to have the user interface to control everything

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There are alternatives obviously thou

lofty junco
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oh... ok. So i can use ZHA or zigbee2mqtt, which are doing basically the same thing, but for ZHA i don't need to install another docker container. that correct?

inland coral
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Yes

lofty junco
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ok, got it then 🙂 thank you very much! will connect manage the ip adress of my coordinator on my router tomorrow morning and use ZHA 🙂

inland coral
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And read the docs, so you have a basic level of knowledge on how it all works 😉

lofty junco
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well, last question maybe: in the ZHA diaglog i also have a dropdown "dataflowcontrol" (translated from my german install), i can choose hardware or software. What'S that refereing to? should i use "software" in my case?

lofty junco
austere patio
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You don't need to choose any value for it, your coordinator's WiFi chip takes care of serial communication with the CC2652P

lofty junco
#

got it!

worn zodiac
# violet dagger what kind of experience are you after?

Unsure if it is possibly to use the Orvibo Zigbee Scene Switch. The device shows up but no controls or entities along with it. Wondering if there is a way to manually configure this type of device so I can actually use it.

worn zodiac
twilit narwhal
twilit narwhal
# visual acorn I asked a few questions there and <@!380066589715988502> was very helpful - but ...

Well it's difficult to talk about zigbee / zwave differences because most people don't use the same type of device on two different radios (there are though, but few). I usually see "zigbee is better for battery life", "zigbee mesh is more versatile" and "zigbee still has a chance of surviving the Matter shockwave" (as a part of project Matter). On the other hand, "zwave still has a lot more devices available" (depends on the type of device, for some it's less true today, but for some types it's still very true), "zwave has better range", "zwave is less subject to wifi interferences".
I tried to make the same choice as you about a year ago and I went the zigbee route, mostly because of Matter and the one I haven't written yet which is : "zigbee devices are less expensive than their zwave equivalent".
In the end it's a personal choice and both routes are valid.

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For Leak Sensors I use this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aqara-Xiaomi-Wassersensor-Apple-Homekit-White/dp/B07D39MSZS
It's not the least expensive but it's very reliable and very responsive (alert about 4-5s after being wet, got one alert last week when my son forgot to turn off the faucet).
For smoke detectors I didn't buy any yet, I'm still on plain old dumb smoke detectors.
When I'm shopping I like to check blakadder website : https://zigbee.blakadder.com/ and (in my case as I use Z2M) https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/

crude otter
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Looking at scroll back.. so zha can use ethernet based coordinators?

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I currently use a USB stick, but have some wifi and ethernet bridge/gateways

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I might give one to a mate then

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Save him buying something

sour shadow
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If you hate them, give them the WiFi ones

crude otter
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lol that's how I started

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With the sonoff bridge

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But I also have some "EACHEN" (ewelink) ethernet one

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And the IKEA one

austere patio
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ZHA/Z2M support ethernet coordinators that are just serial ports exposed over TCP. They won't work with coordinators that have firmware that sits in front of the Zigbee radio.

crude otter
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I've heard people flash the sonoff zb bridge

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So I assume it works (it's WiFi)

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Not sure about the EACHEN thing

austere patio
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You can flash the Sonoff but the EZSP protocol is a lot more latency-sensitive than Z-Stack's serial protocol so you will not have a good experience unless you are confident in your wireless APs

crude otter
violet dagger
crude otter
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What about the EACHEN thing?

violet dagger
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it has ethernet so it works a bit better

crude otter
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I'm happy with the USB dongle myself

austere patio
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It also looks like a Silicon Labs EFR32 board. With a built-in ESP32, it's in theory possible to turn it into a decent Ethernet coordinator. You can find more details about that module here https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/discussions/586

crude otter
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But I like the idea of being able to have the ZigBee ethernet thing miles from my PC and the wifi ap

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I would really love to see PoE powered ZigBee routers

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Although I understand the target audience might be small

austere patio
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Tube sells PoE coordinators and I think CC2652 router firmware exists. Should be able to flash them.

crude otter
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Interesting

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I've got piles of ethernet in my house

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It's almost structural at this point

jovial aspen
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so i'm noticing a non-trivial delay with some of my zigbee contact sensors

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taking up to a second to register as open and run the associated automation to turn a light on

crude otter
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i can beat that. i have a door lock that takes up to 5 seconds to respond to a command

jovial aspen
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that's annoying

crude otter
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it also has an LQI of 111, even though its about.... 70cm from the coordinator

jovial aspen
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i gather that's bad

violet dagger
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not a valid measurement

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delays can be from the device firmware itself being slow

jovial aspen
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it's a sonoff contact sensor

crude otter
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id also love to know why the door lock thinks that going via the bedroom signal repeater (12m away or so) is better than directly to the coordinator

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but, its zigbee.. so its basically voodoo/black magic

jovial aspen
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atxbyea has indicated that 'sonoff suck'

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and i'm beginning to think he may be right

crude otter
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my sonoff door sensors are fine

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the only time they were unreliable, is when i didnt have enough routers around the house

violet dagger
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contact sensors sucks 3 times more as the others

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mine had issues of newer waking itself for periods

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i replaced it with a frient motion sensor pro and that one great

jovial aspen
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are they just inherently shit?

violet dagger
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basically: you got what you paid for

jovial aspen
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ha

violet dagger
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not to mention they guzzle batteries compared to the bar set by aqara

jovial aspen
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holy hell do they ever!

sour shadow
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The LQI is a vague indicator of stuff and shouldn't be worried about

austere patio
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Aqara cheats though

violet dagger
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so in the long run they become more expensive

jovial aspen
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the sonoff motion sensors i have in the garage have had their batteries changed twice this year

violet dagger
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i had one on my main gate and that one had 3 battery changes then ultimately died of corrosion

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it wasn't weather proofed intentionally

jovial aspen
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if they prove too unreliable i'll switch back to aqara i guess

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are the sonoff zigbee wifi bridges any good?

violet dagger
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when it comes to battery powered stuff i tend to keep with proven brands

jovial aspen
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i got one of them for free this week

violet dagger
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they're not for one simple reason: two 2.4ghz radios next to each other = interference

jovial aspen
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ah i see

violet dagger
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they work ok if you don't use it with zha or z2m

sour shadow
jovial aspen
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that was the plan

sour shadow
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They're great to use if you like frustration

jovial aspen
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i was going to flash it with zigbee2tasmo and gift it to my father in law for christmas

violet dagger
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can't decide whether you like him or hate him

jovial aspen
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damn

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oh well it cost me nothing so easy come easy go

crude otter
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the 'Jinvoo' power strip i ordered from Amazon arrived... found by ZHA and seems to work 100%... so thats nice

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although it appears as some other name

jovial aspen
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4x usb 4x gpo?

crude otter
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TS011F by _TZ3000_cfnprab5

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yeah, 4 x GPO can be controlled individually.. the 4 x USB all toggle at once

jovial aspen
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cool

crude otter
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hahahaha, just pressed the power button on the unit

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oh man

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i assumed they would all turn on at once

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nope.. its like machine gun fire

jovial aspen
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i'm not sure i trust zigbee with mains electricity

crude otter
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meh, its just a relay

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no different to wifi controlling it

violet dagger
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mains electricity depends on the relay, not the comms chip used

jovial aspen
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i got a sonoff zigbee basiczbr3 free as well

crude otter
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i have 1 of those

violet dagger
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that one is ok

crude otter
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it works.

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i also have a bunch of ZBMINI

violet dagger
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you can put custom firmware on it if so inclined

jovial aspen
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i don't even have enough uses for my 2x basicr2's

crude otter
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the ZBMINIs can be used as routers though

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so thats handy

jovial aspen
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oh that's good

crude otter
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i have one that isnt even connected on the switch side

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its simply in the wall to act as a router lol

jovial aspen
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i just told someone to get a zigbee to wifi bridge too 😬

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whoops

crude otter
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not sure of peoples thoughts on it, but it works well for me.

jovial aspen
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i have one of those on the way

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they were only $9.99 usd so i figured why not

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always handy to have a backup in case my slaesh stick shits itself

crude otter
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when i ordered my zigbee door lock, it came with a free 'smart battery'

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and that confused me.

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its a 9V battery... thats 'smart' lol

jovial aspen
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which door lock is this?

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that's the dream, to have an automatically locking and unlocking door

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i can't bring myself to spend the $400 for an August lock though

crude otter
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im in Australia, so its the 'Lockwood T-Lock' that i got on sale

jovial aspen
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i'm in aus too

crude otter
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they are basically a Yale Assure SL

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they can be had on ebay for like $120

jovial aspen
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oh yeah, these are in Bunnings?

crude otter
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oh, well being in Aus, you'd kinda understand..

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do you remember Telstra was doing smart home hub things?

jovial aspen
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vaguely

crude otter
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they were zigbee based

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and the 'Lockwood T-Lock' was Telstra's product basically

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well, a joint thing

jovial aspen
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ah

crude otter
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Telstra has retired all that now

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so there is surplus locks on the market

jovial aspen
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eh this might fit on my door

crude otter
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well, the other good thing is.. the network part is modular

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so you can buy z-wave module, or zigbee or whatever

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(it comes with zigbee)

jovial aspen
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this type of lock would actually make my house less secure

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glass in the door within reach of the lock and no security screens

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this would only keep the honest burglars out

crude otter
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ahh