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willow bronze
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the january one

lilac wharf
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Ah yeah, I hadn't considered that. The January revision of the z-stack firmware is fine, but I had issues with the July revision

scarlet bramble
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I will probably sell my two sonoff dongles. Managed to get hold on another zzh as backup.

willow bronze
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it's possible even that firmware is modified but it's unlikely, i can try to dump the firmware and compare the hashes

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unless someone already did so

scarlet bramble
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Is it possible to pair through a router with the January version or only with the coordinator?

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At least with zzh it is only possible to pair with the coordinator with the January version.

austere patio
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Only other person on here with this issue just said they fixed it by using a USB extension cable, which I think you've already tried? And your server only has USB 2.0 ports.

willow bronze
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it's also possible the antenna port is not making good connection

lusty linden
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Recently I moved off ST and went to a local. HA setup. I got a zigbee RGB strip, I can control basic on , off , brightness, color, but I can't figure out how to control and Change the effects of it.
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/E1G-G8E.html
This is the one I have, can someone point me to a decent how to on th effects.

willow bronze
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zha, z2m?

lusty linden
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@willow bronze Z2m

verbal shale
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can anyone tell me how to work with values from zboss_sniffer

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?

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ive got the device

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now....how to work with raw data?

lilac wharf
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What are you trying to do?

willow bronze
lusty linden
austere patio
verbal shale
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can anyone help me?

austere patio
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What are you trying to do?

verbal shale
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trying to add 6 button wireless

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to z2m

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already did a sniff to the communication

austere patio
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If it's tuya, Z2M has docs for how to do that

verbal shale
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not soo simple

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unfortunally dont work like it should

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thats why i need help

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also to z2m

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and I have sniff the info

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im stuck right now

willow bronze
patent tundra
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Hey,
I bought a SNZB-02 and noticed that the reporting threshold for temperature is too high and the one for humidity is too low.

e.g.: Humidity updates every few Minutes, but temperature every 15, even if the temperature changes.
How can I configure it to send an update if it changes by 0.2/0.1 degrees ?

I am using ZHA and everything on newest version.

Thanks

gentle flint
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Because it's Sonoff. Use USB cable extension

smoky hornet
vocal canopy
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Hey, question: I have some RGBWW and WW LED strip lights on Gledopto dimmers, and they're nice, but they can't do a slow fade up/down, and the minimum brightness is still pretty bright. Does anyone have a recommended controller that can dim more slowly, and supports a lower min brightness? (Is the Gledopto "pro" line any better? I know they work as zigbee routers, which is nice, at least)

harsh umbra
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I have an IKEA Gunnarp panel. Originally when I set it up with HA, I had the ability to control white spectrum. The light wasn't used for a few weeks and I have lost the ability to change white spectrum now. I turned on OTAs and updated the panel and my 5 button Ikea remote. I tried removing them from HA and connecting directly. If I send a light_turn_on event with temp parameters the light reports it's new state as being changed but the light doesn't actually change temperature.

pseudo prairie
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I'm have set-up some aqara sensor via ZHA. I bought them from Amazon. Worked good. So I bought 10 door/window sensors from aliexpress and ZHA says it was setup but I have a battery with a question mark and the open/close is not working. Being from China do I need to do something else to it to get information from the sensors?

sour shadow
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Details on these devices would help us help you

smoky hornet
tropic depot
patent tundra
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Where can I find the Manufacturer override code for my zha device so I can change cluster Values ?

opaque chasm
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Hi. I bought an Air Quality Monitor (Frient AQSZB-110) and wanted to add it via ZHA. The Problem is that I get an exception when ZHA tries to create the entities and I don't get any sensor data.

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Does anyone have an idea how to proceed from here?

lusty linden
remote wagon
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Recently my Zigbee network is starting to slow down massively (previously sub 100ms response on switches and automations) currently over 1 second. Where do I begin debugging this? My first suspect is a hue in-line switch (the cube looking thing) that is having issues updating. I tried OTA update, which quietly failed. And that's about when the network went bad.

austere patio
remote wagon
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Using z2m and a cc2652rb from slaesh (the new good one)

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I've tried a restart, but I have not tried re-plugging the coordinator*

pseudo prairie
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Batteries have been changed in all 10 sensors and no change

fierce gulch
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Guys I recently installed those Sengled bulbs I bought off of Amazon. They are only shown in ZHA as ‘EndDevice’ not ‘Router’.
I thought any non-battery devices can act as router. Am I having misunderstandings?

lilac wharf
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Not all mains-powered devices act as routers. Sengled bulbs are one exception unfortunately

fierce gulch
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I see, thanks! I see my Hue bulbs shown as routers. I guess I get what I paid for.

jolly narwhal
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tradfri router club 🦥

valid wharf
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Hi guys!

I have an issue with my zigbee installation. I'm usinh HA on a raspberry pi and i have an tubeszb
CC2652P2 Based Zigbee to Ethernet Serial Coordinator
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Since yesterday i got this issue with the zigbee2mqtt integration and i dont know how to fix it. Any help will be great

Thanks!

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-10-20 19:15:54: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-10-20 19:15:54: Failed to start zigbee Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-10-20 19:15:54: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/FAQ.html#help-zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start for possible solutions Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-10-20 19:15:54: Exiting... Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-10-20 19:15:54: SyntaxError: Unexpected token in JSON at position 0 at JSON.parse (<anonymous>) at Function.open (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/database.ts:19:35) at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:116:34) at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:63:47) at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.js:116:27) at start (/app/index.js:95:5) [19:15:54] INFO: Handing over control to Zigbee2mqtt Core ... > zigbee2mqtt@1.21.2 start > node index.js

proper tangle
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Hey guys. My zigbee bulb only shows and LQI of 6, despite being at max 15 metres away from the slae.sh zigbee radio with antenna. How is that? I have 3 bulbs in my small 2 bedroom apartment and afaik they should boost each others' LQI in the mesh network. In the zigbee2mqtt map i can see all the bulbs are connected to eachother

jolly narwhal
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What bulb is it?

proper tangle
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It's a zigbee bulb from osram, RGB

jolly narwhal
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Osram is.... Shit I've heard

proper tangle
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Oh

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Well that could explain it

violet dagger
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but osram is now ledvance

proper tangle
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Yeah, its a ledvance, but it shows up as osram

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In zigbee2mqtt

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I'm guessing it was rebranded but not changed in the software?

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The colors are extremely good (at leastcompared to IKEA)

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But is tgere anything I can do?

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Also, it seems all my OTA requests are not being responded to in Z2M. Why may that be? I have the OSRAM or LEDVANCE bulbs and IKEA bulbs and switches/controllers and none of them respond

jolly narwhal
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I have done roughly 200 OTA upgrade with tradfri

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No issues here

proper tangle
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Are they connected using a hub or directly to a zigbee2mqtt radio?

jolly narwhal
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Directly to a electrolama zzh stick on a rpi3b+ 🤢 running zigbee2mqtt in docker

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Or, through the mesh for most of them

proper tangle
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Alright. I enabled more detailed info in the log and it seems that half my devices didnt respond (some are unplugged but the ikea tradfri switches didn't respond) and the rest are up to date

jolly narwhal
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Remember to pair stuff in place

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And have enough routers

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And preferably never break power to ZigBee routers

proper tangle
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What do you mean with pair stuff in place?

jolly narwhal
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Always join devices where they are supposed to be installed

proper tangle
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I'm guessing bulbs act as routers? I think 3 bulbs and an IKEA outlet are sufficient For a small apartment

jolly narwhal
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Impossible to tell without knowing everything, interference is usually the big killer

proper tangle
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How do I do that with devices that will be farther away from the slae.sh usb stick than they want to connect? Does it make a difference that I move bulbs around?

jolly narwhal
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And walls

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That is why you pair routers first

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Then end devices

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Never pair a device next to the coordinator

proper tangle
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I think interference could be real in thi apartment

jolly narwhal
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Unless it is to be installed there

proper tangle
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Do I reinstall my things now then?

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Is it a calibration issue?

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Thanks for the help

jolly narwhal
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🤷‍♂️

grand juniper
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Hi, Using Zigbee2MQQT and I pretty much set it up as standard and connected devices and have not touched it - I just wondered if I should be doing anything else to improve the network as I pretty much let it run itself? For example are there any other tweaks I should be doing. My Network map shows a lot of devices that do not seem to be connected and connected in odd arrangements that I feel could be improved by putting them relative to their positions in the house - I have devices connected at far ends of the house which seems to not make too much sense to me

jolly narwhal
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You paired devices in place?

grand juniper
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How do you pair devices in place?

jolly narwhal
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And did a interference scan before starting the mesh?

grand juniper
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If I add a new router (Ikea repeater) to my network after I already have a load of paired devices do I need to repair everything to get the best network results? And do I then lose all the entities in HA and then need to add them all again?

jolly narwhal
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No

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But as a starting point, please pair in place

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Especially with end devices

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After doing routers

grand juniper
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Sorry - when you say 'pair in place' - you mean pair the device with the network in the end position they will sit in the house?

jolly narwhal
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Yes, the place where the device will live

uneven ruin
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non repeater devices tend to freak out if their parent vanishes due to distance and sometimes don't update right with huge changes

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anyone have experience with can lights, specifically high ceiling and getting a really stable network?

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my stuff works 99% of the time but get some weird things occasionally that I'm assuming are due to interference or distance

jolly narwhal
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I haven't had a single issue since I rebuilt my network two years ago tbh

valid wharf
jolly narwhal
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well, you better share some logs, and if it is a problem with the #add-ons-archived you are better off getting help there, if you are running z2m any other way here is fine

brave kraken
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Hello, I'm going crazy trying to bind a ikea 5 btn remote to a light group, using zha. Is this supported?
Last time I redid my network, each remote auto created a "no name group", which if I added lights to, worked fine.

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However this time, no group is created. Creating a zha group and binding the remote to the groupt is doing nothing

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I get successes: ```
2021-11-07 16:06:56 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zdo] [0x05fe:zdo] 0x05fe: Bind_req 90:fd:9f:ff:fe:e3:23:48, ep: 1, cluster: 4 to group: 0x0002 completed: [<Status.SUCCESS: 0>]
2021-11-07 16:06:56 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zdo] [0x05fe:zdo] 0x05fe: Bind_req 90:fd:9f:ff:fe:e3:23:48, ep: 1, cluster: 3 to group: 0x0002 failed: [0x05fe:0:0x0021]: Message send failure
2021-11-07 16:06:56 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zdo] [0x05fe:zdo] 0x05fe: Bind_req 90:fd:9f:ff:fe:e3:23:48, ep: 1, cluster: 8 to group: 0x0002 completed: [<Status.SUCCESS: 0>]
2021-11-07 16:06:56 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zdo] [0x05fe:zdo] 0x05fe: Bind_req 90:fd:9f:ff:fe:e3:23:48, ep: 1, cluster: 4096 to group: 0x0002 completed: [<Status.SUCCESS: 0>]
2021-11-07 16:06:56 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zdo] [0x05fe:zdo] 0x05fe: Bind_req 90:fd:9f:ff:fe:e3:23:48, ep: 1, cluster: 6 to group: 0x0002 completed: [<Status.SUCCESS: 0>]
2021-11-07 16:06:56 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zdo] [0x05fe:zdo] 0x05fe: Bind_req 90:fd:9f:ff:fe:e3:23:48, ep: 1, cluster: 25 to group: 0x0002 completed: [<Status.SUCCESS: 0>]
2021-11-07 16:06:56 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zdo] [0x05fe:zdo] 0x05fe: Bind_req 90:fd:9f:ff:fe:e3:23:48, ep: 1, cluster: 5 to group: 0x0002 failed: [0x05fe:0:0x0021]: Message send failure

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using conbee 1 with zha

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binding to a single light works fine

proper tangle
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Does anyone know how to set up my IKEA motion sensor to activate the light bulb in my bathroom? Using group binding doesn't work as the motion sensor won't bind to any groups

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in zigbee2mqtt

hybrid haven
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Has anyone managed to recover one of slaesh's CC2652R sticks after it stops responding? I've been unable to re-flash it as I just get this message:

ERROR: Timeout waiting for ACK/NACK after 'Get ChipID (0x28)'

Tried on both Windows and macOS now. I've tried contacting slaesh a few times directly but had no response from any of the avenues I've tried.

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It was working fine and then suddenly just stopped responding to zigbee2mqtt commands (getting timeouts), and now it's just dead. Green LED is on but that's it.

proper tangle
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`
'

  1. Factory reset the E1743 (keep pairing pressed >10sec)

  2. Pair E1743 (press pairing 4 x quickly till led flashes.... than ... keep pressing pairing slowly ..until pairing is confirmed

  3. use zigbee2mqtt/bridge/unbind and use ieeeAdr 0xeaaaaaaa4 as payload !! (will not work with friendly_Name (e.g. Switch.Bedroom)
    '
    How do I do this in home assistant, where do I do it?
    `
    How do I do this? My IKEA controller won't unbind and this seems to be the solution

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The unbidn request keeps timing out

austere patio
hybrid haven
austere patio
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And this is on different computers/platforms?

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Hmm

hybrid haven
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Yeah. I've tried using https://github.com/JelmerT/cc2538-bsl on macOS and Windows (two different machines) and also SmartRF flash programmer on Windows, but neither are able to get the chip ID it seems.

austere patio
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So it seems like the usb-serial chip is functional but the CC2652RB is not

hybrid haven
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Yeah, either the CC2652RB has died or somehow can't talk to the USB-serial IC, but I can't see how the latter would happen as I didn't touch the stick before it failed.

austere patio
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And unless its bootloader was disabled, you should be able to flash it over serial. The only other thing to try is JTAG

hybrid haven
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Yeah I'm thinking of JTAG, just need to get the right pitch headers.

austere patio
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I've mishandled a bare zzh stick for years now, without a plastic case. No problems.

hybrid haven
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Yeah it's odd

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I've got 2 other of slaesh's sticks and they have both been running for about a year.

austere patio
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From what I understand, the bootloader for the CC2652 is baked into the chip. You can only disable it by flipping a bit in flash, which shouldn't have happened unless you did that explicitly with a programmer.

hybrid haven
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Certainly didn't - this was just hooked up to a Pi using zigbee2mqtt

austere patio
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I'll have to check if the status LED tied to some GPIO pin or if it's always on

hybrid haven
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There are supposedly RX and TX LEDs though which I can't see anywhere on my board, so I assume they're unpopulated.

austere patio
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Yeah, the green one looks like it is. The other two are activated only by debug firmware.

hybrid haven
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Ah wait I can see them, just on opposite end of the board.

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I don't think I've actually got a JTAG programmer. I've got an ST-Link but it's hard to find info online about whether I can use that as a JTAG programmer for this.

austere patio
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You can re-flash it (using another programmer) with BMP firmware to directly use it with OpenOCD

hybrid haven
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I've got an STM development board with a built-in ST-Link and a standalone ST-Link probe, guess I could try re-programming the one on the developer board.

austere patio
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But with the CC2652 getting power and the serial chip working, it must be the CC2652 that suddenly broke and either disabled its backdoor bootloader or died...

hybrid haven
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I've had other CC2531 chips actually lose their firmware and need reprogramming (using the steps from zigbee2mqtt's documentation and an Arduino), but I'm surprised this one has seemingly died too - potentially in the same way.

austere patio
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Did the CC2531s outright die? Or were they still somewhat functional? I've had some corrupt NVRAM, which you can recover without reflashing (I suspect the only part of reflashing that helps is the NVRAM being erased).

hybrid haven
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What do you mean by outright die? It was ages ago now so I can't quite recall, but it could have been that Z2M was able to talk to them but they always timed out when controlling devices.

austere patio
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Like you could still connect to their serial port and send at least some commands, allowing the host application to start up a little

hybrid haven
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Does sound like it could be corrupt NVRAM - I don't think I've ever heard of an IC just upright losing its firmware haha

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Yeah Z2M started up fine, so it probably was some corrupt NVRAM contents.

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Good to know for the future if it happens again.

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Cheers for all of the help @austere patio - will try my hand at reflashing this over JTAG. Not like I have anything to lose!

austere patio
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No problem. Lemme know if it works, I'm pretty curious myself to see what exactly let out the magic smoke.

mighty river
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Just activated ZHA
paired some lights und build a HA-group of all the light.

Switching the lights one by one works fine.
Switching the HA-Group, doesn´t swicth all lights and the HA Status of them gets out of sync with the real light

brave kraken
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@mighty river try making a zha group instead, you get a light entity which controls all the lights

mighty river
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I ´ll try ZHS Groups.
Is that a "normal" behaviour, then HA-Groups don´t work properly?

sour shadow
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The problem is that you're "overloading" the mesh

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With a Zigbee group you send one command
With a HA group you send one command per light

brave kraken
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ikea ota update messed with group binding

mighty river
mighty river
mighty river
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#ZHA 2 of my lights have no connection to the coordinator in the zigbee-visualisation. The work both properly.
Any idea why?

lilac wharf
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sometimes the map is funky. same thing happens with zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
mighty river
sour shadow
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Well, no, but if you want to control them all as one then you wouldn't be using a HA group either, would you?

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If you want to act on multiple things at once, use Zigbee groups where possible

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If you want to act on things one by one, it doesn't really matter

mighty river
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thx!

valid wharf
mighty river
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I added an IKEA Blind FYRTUR and its remote control

  • It´s horrorbly unreactive
  • the remote was detected as a binary sensor, shouldn´t it be a switch.

I think there is another problem in my ZHA network.
How can I debug the zigbee network.

Before everything was running with the IKEA gateway quite properly. The gateway is switched off now.

sacred burrow
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Hey, i need help with the installation of my Raspbee on a raspberry 4. I've installed home assistant supervisor on docker. The problem is that the raspbee is not recognized when starting deConz
[17:48:27] INFO: GCFFlasher V3_17 (c) dresden elektronik ingenieurtechnik gmbh
Path | Vendor | Product | Serial | Type
-----------------+--------+---------+------------+-------
[cont-init.d] firmware.sh: exited 0.
[cont-init.d] nginx.sh: executing...
what can i do to know where is the problem ?

sour shadow
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Is the Raspbee listed in the Supervisor's hardware menu?

mighty river
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Is it possible, to connect the remote with the blind directly, so that it works also without HA? (as in the IKEA envoronment)

sacred burrow
sour shadow
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Then see your install method channel for help with that

sacred burrow
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ok thanks

sour shadow
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configuration -> Info shows you, if you're unsure

mighty river
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Where can I see which radio channel is used in ZHA & is it possible to change it?

austere patio
mighty river
molten linden
sacred seal
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where do I buy a ZigBee stick?

valid wharf
molten linden
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I don’t really know. If you have a backup you could try that if not maybe delete and start over - this may mean you will need to re add devices.

sour shadow
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I could suggest some UK options, but if you don't live here that's not gonna help you much 😛

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(that said, the pinned messages have lists of working sticks, including details on where to buy some)

valid wharf
sacred seal
sacred seal
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would this work?

austere patio
smoky hornet
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We need a zigbee coordinator comparison matrix haha

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How do you know which router an end device is using?

sour shadow
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say USA

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So, buy from Tube

orchid elbow
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hi guys, does anyone know of any development board like a D1 mini for example but with a zigbee chip instead?

violet dagger
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there are CC2530 boards

near echo
scarlet bramble
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Have just used it for a soil moisture sensor.

austere patio
austere patio
vestal atlas
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Oh that looks nice!... Lead-Time: 9 weeks 🙈

austere patio
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Oh, looks like I got the last one from DigiKey 😂 (last week)

lilac wharf
molten linden
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I have one or two - I could probably spare 1... dm me

sacred burrow
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One question, for the raspbee 2, is the battery required ? Or is it optionnal ?

valid wharf
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@molten linden I have deleted the database.db from home assitant folder (no backup available) and added the devices again.

austere patio
sacred seal
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I have it plugged in physically, and I also have the Zigbee Home Automation integrated

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how do I start connecting my zigbee devices to home assistant now

sacred seal
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nevermind!

sacred burrow
smoky hornet
austere patio
smoky hornet
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Is there another way to see it?

austere patio
# smoky hornet Is there another way to see it?

Scans should be done every four hours (or on demand with the button) so if nothing shows up then either all of your routers have bugs (I believe only legrand has this issue), or there's a bug somewhere. Can you enable ZHA debug logging and let it run for a while?

smoky hornet
austere patio
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There should be one at the top of the page. Maybe it was removed?

smoky hornet
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Oh "refresh topology"

smoky hornet
civic elm
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I just got RGB sengled bulbs and I’m disappointed they’re not as bright as my tradfri one-color ones. Thinking about returning them for different and brighter rgb (or at least bulbs with color temp support). anyone compared bulbs and have suggestions? Preferably <$20. Local IKEA is sold out of RGB but maybe I’ll just order them online.

violet dagger
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it's difficult to find rgb leds as bright as dedicated white ones

gusty pendant
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I'm using deCONZ and I have the problem that I can't add some device (a wesmartify Essentials thermostat). I already have three of these thermostats working for over a year in my system, so I know that the devices themselves should work. When I add them in Phoscon (as "Sensor"), Phoscon tells me that my new sensor is ready and the thermostat goes from "Zigbee indicator blinking" to "Zigbee indicator solid green", but the device does not show up.

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What is the proper way of debugging this? Does deconz write logs to somewhere?

civic elm
civic elm
violet dagger
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800lm is a measurement, human eyes perceive brightness differently depending on the color

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natural white will always be "brighter" than warm white even if its the same lumen output

smoky hornet
gentle flint
tropic schooner
# smoky hornet Using the s31 zb lites

I just added my first one of these smart plugs to my ZB network. Started working as a repeater very quickly. I'm considering selling my lot of Kasa smart plugs for a bunch more of these...

austere patio
gentle flint
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You can access sensors, i think you still get the micrium os, just no ZigBee SDK. You need to get one of theirs dev kits $99 to get EmberZNet. Or you could do BLE or any custom RF protocol

austere patio
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Ah. Oh well, guess I'll pick one of those up too.

foggy gyro
smoky hornet
tropic schooner
smoky hornet
tropic schooner
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I’m running core 10.7, btw. Reverted back and restored after 11.1 gave me issues with zigpy and Lovelace cards.

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(And broke by Xiaomi roborock connection.)

mystic tulip
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my zigbee devices are unresponsive after I rebooted my HA.. last time I had to remove the batteries from the sensors and reinsert.. do I need to do this everytime, or is there a workaround?

austere patio
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Are you using a Conbee?

mystic tulip
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and one of my devices is acting as a router, so I unplugged it.. but still all my devices are showing it as being used by it in visualization

winter raven
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Has anyone gotten the Aqara Indoor Air Quality Monitor to integrate? Specifically the air quality metric

south moth
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Hi. I added an IKEA tradfri open-close (or on off) button to Phoscon and it shows up deconz and HA. But no events are triggered when a button is pressed. Other IKEA devices are triggering fine. Any idea how to debug this?

jovial aspen
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got a nice mesh going

jolly narwhal
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Noice

ivory hound
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I want to take the opportunity to say something very important in this channel:

  • Ohhh the zigbeeee!
jolly narwhal
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💃

mighty river
grim valve
jolly narwhal
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I run the older ones with CT without issues

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have about 20 of those

grim valve
jolly narwhal
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Colour Temperature

visual estuary
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so what is this matter thing i keep hearing about

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will it be compatible with zigbee or nah

jolly narwhal
visual estuary
jolly narwhal
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No

visual estuary
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im trying to read up on it but all these marketing buzzwords lmao

jolly narwhal
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But kids always want the latest and best, and the marketing departements of companies know that

visual estuary
# 
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jolly narwhal
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I'll probably not migrate off zigbee for the next 5-10 years

visual estuary
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same, i got so many zigbee devices

ivory hound
visual estuary
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37 right now apparently

violet dagger
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i like the "USB for smart homes" explanation

jolly narwhal
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37, what is this, zigbee for ants ? 😄

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Last I counted I had 122

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I need to recount

visual estuary
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haha, live with my parents, when i move out its going to be presence detection, climate control and sensors, switches, lights, security in every room

jolly narwhal
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I moved out when I was 16, my mother still thinks I'll move home eventually 🤔

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I'm 37 with two kids soon

violet dagger
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insert "how do you do fellow kids" meme

jolly narwhal
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👴

visual estuary
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like, bidding rent prices

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it's insane

jolly narwhal
#

lulz

visual estuary
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i make 2.7k a month and cant move out without either living in a cardboard box or spending all of my money

jolly narwhal
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I bought my own house at age 24, it was almost 50% paid down until last week when I bought a new car 😆

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Is that a lot in the netherlands though ? I do around €7k a month here

violet dagger
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damn

jolly narwhal
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nmad

violet dagger
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rent is cheap in croatia 😄

visual estuary
jolly narwhal
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We only have 1.59% interest on house loans, which is nice

visual estuary
#

it's a lot for me with no education past high school lmao. i am working for a MSP and getting promoted soon, so thats good

jolly narwhal
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I have high school too

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vocational only

violet dagger
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just learn computers 😉

jolly narwhal
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that's where the money is you see

violet dagger
#

i have many friends that are self taught programmers

visual estuary
#

yeah i work in IT as incident manager, but i gtg back to work, see yall around xD

jolly narwhal
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I didn't include overtime and extras and bonus in that figure though 🍭

violet dagger
#

googling incident manager

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doesn't sound fun

jolly narwhal
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I was an incident manager for a year or so in a project, was quite boring so I did change management role as well 😄

visual estuary
worldly plinth
#

When using zigbee2mqtt is there any reason to pair to a certain router directly or is just pairing to the hub directly fine? Won't it find the best route back to the coordinator on it's own?

jolly narwhal
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I've never used selective pairing

worldly plinth
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Does the quality of the signal matter if devices have other devices they hop on?

jolly narwhal
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well, that two questions, and quality of signal is different from strength of signal usually

worldly plinth
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So the LQI that shows in the frontend is the signal strength right?

lilac wharf
#

it's link quality index, and it's largely an unreliable metric

jolly narwhal
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255 is bad

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is all we know

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😄

lilac wharf
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255 is "i have no idea"

worldly plinth
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Wait I thought 255 was better?

lilac wharf
#

basically, if everything is working fine, you can ignore LQI

worldly plinth
#

good to know though

lilac wharf
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LQI is 0-254 with 255 being "no clue"

ivory hound
#

i was also under the impresion the bigger the LQI the better

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i think this is written in z2m site too

jolly narwhal
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Allegedly, except 255 yes

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but in the end it is just a finger in the air feeling for a breeze

ivory hound
#

Link Quality Indicator (LQI) is the quality of the real data received in a signal. This is a value from 0 to 255, being 255 the best quality.

ivory hound
lilac wharf
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The higher the better is true. I'll have to double check the zigbee spec for my 255 is "idk" claim, but I'm almost certain that's true

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But...I still stand by my statement that it's basically a useless metric

hot carbon
#

Hello. I have a wireless aqara double wall switch. and i cant get it to show up on home assistant. i long pressed, and multiple quick pressed. but it just doesnt show up. am i doing something wrong?

jolly narwhal
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What ZigBee integration are you using?

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With what coordinator and how many routers?

hot carbon
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im not sure if i understand the question. i use a rasp4+cc2531 with hassio,

jolly narwhal
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With zha? Z2M ? And how many devices do you have? Over what size of area? And what does the log say?

hot carbon
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i have only like 5 devices and i use z2m

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"2021-11-09 16:12:02: Received message from unsupported device with Zigbee model 'lumi.remote.b28ac1' and manufacturer name 'LUMI'"

jolly narwhal
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What version of z2m ? I've used a dual button for well over a year

hot carbon
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i just installed hassio like a week ago so dont think its too old

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1.81.1-1

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i heard that these switches automatically pair to lightbulbs if they are close right?

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is it possible that its stuck to a bulb thats why it doesnt connect to hassio?

jolly narwhal
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They don't do binding afaik no

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But that coordinator is horrible, I hope atieast 3 of the other devices you have are mains powered routers

hot carbon
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you mean like wall plugs?

jolly narwhal
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Or bulbs that you don't power off

finite pawn
#

Does anyone know why some of my zigbee smart plugs show up as light entities instead of switch?

jolly narwhal
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Never seen that

finite pawn
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I checked in customizations and it didn't look like there was anything weird there

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Its weird, I have six eWeLink "SA-003-Zigbee" devices in Home Assistant and about half are switches and half are light entities.

willow bronze
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Not the new Aqara devices checking if you're using the Aqara hub and refusing to work if you don't...

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just why

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next thing you know, they implement drm to make sure you have a separate hub for every vendor

jolly narwhal
#

😶‍🌫️

finite pawn
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I'm using ZHA fwiw. I don't think the smart plugs that show up as light entities ever appeared as switch entities before. I think they have been light entities since they were added.

violet dagger
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Maybe they're using the light firmware inside them

jolly narwhal
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Not the heavy one?

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Jajajaja

ivory hound
finite pawn
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I'm pretty sure I'm not using deconz

ivory hound
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ZHA?

finite pawn
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[9:41 AM] WayneManion: I'm using ZHA fwiw. I don't think the smart plugs that show up as light entities ever appeared as switch entities before. I think they have been light entities since they were added.

ivory hound
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you mention you have some that appear as lights

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so did you ever try to re pair them

#

?

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usually if they are not proper paired or if they are not actually supported this happens

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they pair because zha actually pairs everything

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but some devices deviate from standard and then this happens

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I don't use ZHA anymore but think I read somewhere you can change the type of the device, from light to plug

finite pawn
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I'll try re-pairing one of them when I get a chance.

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I always try to pair devices in situ so the mesh structure doesn't have to change after the fact.

tropic depot
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what is the device type on the device screen

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in the zigbee information

indigo plover
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Hello, i use zigbee2mqtt, so my problem is, i try to update the local_temperature_calibration with an automation, but this value isn't reported to HA from zigbee2mqtt. i can only set it with the mqtt service, but i need to know the current value to recalculate it.

finite pawn
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Device info //SA-003-Zigbee // by eWeLink // Zigbee Coordinator

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Device Type: Router

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Zigbee info // IEEE: 00:12:4b:00:22:68:18:72 // Nwk: 0x07e4 // Device Type: Router // LQI: 192 // RSSI: -52 // Last Seen: 2021-11-09T10:30:02 // Power Source: Mains

tropic depot
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can you get me the content of the zigbee device information dialog?

finite pawn
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how do i find that?

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the zigbee device signature?

tropic depot
#

yes that

obsidian sandalBOT
finite pawn
#

Whoops, I thought I was pasting that into a PM

spice shoal
austere patio
molten linden
spice shoal
#

whoa, famous folks around here!

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@molten linden doesn't look like I can purchase that either..

molten linden
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hence the waiting list.. had about a month+ with no modules.. list got rather long

spice shoal
#

ok, anyone know where a similar device (same chip, ethernet) is available and in stock?

jolly narwhal
#

Is the chip shortage so bad I should sell my cc1352p2 on the gray market?

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😶‍🌫️

austere patio
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The CC2652 has 1300 more CCs than the CC1352 so I'm not sure how much you'd get for it

jolly narwhal
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I had to think about that one for too long

tepid lotus
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how do i add ikea styrbar too z2m ?

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i clicked on import blue print here but it still doesn't work

spice shoal
#

I’m second guessing my decision to go with ikea bulbs…I can’t get any more of the model (not available online nor in store) and then there appears to be an issue setting temperature and brightness simultaneously?

jolly narwhal
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Setting them both happens within a second of eachother

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I've never had issues with it

spice shoal
#

I’m trying to use the adaptive lighting integration and it seems to have issues

jolly narwhal
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I use that

spice shoal
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Like it picks up one or the other

jolly narwhal
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I adjust every 5 minutes I think, no issues

spice shoal
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Let me change that slightly, I’m using the adaptive lighting component with motion detection

jolly narwhal
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I do too, and with door sensors

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Like my bathroom, light turns off and on based on occupancy

spice shoal
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I’ve seen it misbehave where it only picks up brightness or color but not both

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In the middle of the night that’s a bad combo 🙂

jolly narwhal
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It picks up one first, then the other a second later

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I go around that by making all my lights dim down to 2% before the clock reaches 10pm

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Then it won't adjust brightness or colour again before 08am

spice shoal
#

That would help yeah

jolly narwhal
#

Aka it turns off adaptive lighting in night hours

spice shoal
#

Can those values be sent while the light is off?

sterile sleet
#

you can send them

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but the light doesnt care

spice shoal
#

Less helpful

jolly narwhal
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I always go to the bathroom before going to bed, so it adjusts the last time then

sterile sleet
#

wot?

jolly narwhal
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Watt

sterile sleet
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as if I'd know... I still use circadianLighting

jolly narwhal
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I moved over pretty late

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Probably less than 12 months ago

sterile sleet
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aL always got into my way

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cL is just... in the background

spice shoal
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I’m just getting started and seemed the more appropriate choice

sterile sleet
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it sure is

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afaik the official repo of circadian cannot even be installed anymore

spice shoal
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Yeah seemed less active for sure

sterile sleet
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oh yeah now i remember

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when I tried adaptive my ikea bulbs were much more red/pink than circadian, the hues were fine

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red/pink to the point where it wasn't acceptable

spice shoal
#

Color bulbs? Or white spectrum?

sterile sleet
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color bulbs

spice shoal
#

I see, I only have ws so never noticed that

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It’s all moot for me if I cannot buy more however

jolly narwhal
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I love my CT bulbs

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Ikea RGB is eeeh

spice shoal
#

May need to return them and buy hue or something

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CT?

jolly narwhal
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White spectrum

sterile sleet
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yep, your house is pink with ikea rgb and adaptive. pink like pink panther

spice shoal
#

Decadent 70s feel or something

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Any other brands worth trying (which act as routers) besides ikea and hue?

jolly narwhal
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My CT bulbs behave just fine all day

spice shoal
#

Looks nice

sterile sleet
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hue gradient behind the tv is currently my main lightsource 😄

jolly narwhal
#

This is what I do with adaptive lighting

sterile sleet
#

nice

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didn't have time to adjust every bulb yet

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cL just works

spice shoal
#

Do hue bulbs ignore commands for brightness etc if the bulb is off as well?

jolly narwhal
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Pretty sure everything does

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Just like adjusting volume of a media player that is off makes no sense

sterile sleet
#

you can start the hues with parameters, I guess with the official hub only

jolly narwhal
#

Yes, the original hub does some magic

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With other stuff too

austere patio
#

Pretty sure you can adjust the brightness and color temperature with the bulb being off? At least the IKEA ones I've tried.

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The power on behavior is also configurable in both ZHA and Z2M

sterile sleet
#

noice

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do you have any idea how hue proceeds to make the gradient accessible? is there anything happening even?

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it keeps me from ditching the hub

jolly narwhal
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Hmm, my Ikea's don't adjust while off

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They do the adjust when they turn on

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I believe

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But I could be wrong

spice shoal
sterile sleet
#

guess to turn on when power comes back or stay off

jolly narwhal
#

Or a set turn on value

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I use remember for my bedroom lights

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In case of power blinks at night

spice shoal
#

oh I misunderstood that comment

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yeah, was thinking specifically about the settings of color/brightness during turn on scenarios

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but yes, I understand the on/off setting after a power failure configuration option 😄

vestal atlas
#

Have someone tried to use different kind of antennas with zigbee? It would be interesting to see how this compares to just cranking the tx power https://i.imgur.com/ebYAPo4.png . (Not so interesting that I'd start running around and mapping signals myself tho 😅)

small kettle
#

What is the pros and cons of using ZHA vs zigbee2mqtt? (Sorry new to this)

obsidian sandalBOT
#

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

Command '.zigbee' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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Pretty much what it says there. Same, but different

small kettle
#

Thanks Tinkerer and HassBot 🙂

sour shadow
#

One is embedded in HA, so if you're only running a single HA instance and want to keep it all self contained, ZHA makes sense

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If you want to share that mesh across multiple HA instances, or other things, or just like having it separate from HA - or need to run it remotely from HA - then Z2M is the sensible choice

small kettle
#

Yeah i run Core in docker on Unraid and zha felt so simple so I had to ask if I miss out on something.

sour shadow
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Z2M has a few things it does "better", ZHA has a few things it does "better"

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Neither is better, or worse, than the other - it's just about relative strengths

small kettle
#

Alright. I'll stick with ZHA to begin with. I have enough things to learn anyway 🙂

ocean cloak
#

Could anyone suggest a zigbee hub to purchase? I wasn't able to find anything with a current chipset. Everything was back-ordered at least a month out

sterile sleet
#

where are you located?

ocean cloak
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USA

sterile sleet
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out of stock everything 😄

ocean cloak
#

Haha yeah. I'm guessing related to all the chip shortages

lilac wharf
#

CC2531 would be okay in the meantime. When stuff is back in stock, you could switch to something CC2652 based without re-pairing everything with zigbee2mqtt at least

ocean cloak
#

What are the downsides of CC2531?

sterile sleet
#

cc2652r works fine for me

ocean cloak
#

I wouldn't mind repairing. I don't have many devices right now

lilac wharf
ocean cloak
#

I just opted for wifi lights for now

sterile sleet
#

you said HA does not detect the wiz?
amazon says the wiz know homekit

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you could try a homekit controller

ocean cloak
#

Do you think the homekit controller would be better?

sterile sleet
#

i have no idea, don‘t have any

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you can try it

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or send me some 🥳

ocean cloak
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haha

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They're pretty cheap. I heard good reviews so decided to go with them

sterile sleet
#

I don‘t even see them here… i see wiz but not from philips

ocean cloak
#

See them where?

sterile sleet
#

in amazon eu

ocean cloak
#

Ah yeah not sure about EU

molten linden
#

Tubeszb here.. I’m moving though the waitlist on non PoE coordinators pretty fast.

ocean cloak
#

What's the ETA for bottom of the list?

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I was just too impatient and wanted something. I just learned about HA last week and have been diving in deep. But I only had a single smart bulb so not too much I could do lol

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fuck, i think i just blew away my config

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oh well, didn't have too much in there yet anyways I guess

molten linden
#

I sent you a DM.

lilac wharf
#

😳

molten linden
#

Move on nothing to see here 😂

inner gorge
#

Any contributors for ZHA here? I've got a TuYa TS0210 _TYZB01_3zv6oleo Vibration sensor which I think I need to write a device handler for. Apparently it doesn't seem to send a clear message, it just needs a timeout. I'm wondering if there are any other devices like this that I should model my approach after?

mystic tulip
#

anyone running a ether-serial with zigbee2mqtt and would like to help me set it up

trim bay
#

My Zigbee network has two Sonoff repeters. One with an LQI of 64 and RSSI -84 and the other one LQI 40 and RSSI -90. I feel these values are pretty bad but on the other hand, the location of the 1st receiver is quite decent. What would be considered acceptable LQI for a reliable Zigbee mesh? I would like to start installing the battery powered sensors but it only makes sense to do that only if they could work reliably.

austere patio
#

If you're seeing both an LQI and an RSSI, are you using a Silicon Labs adapter? Or are you using a Conbee?

scarlet wadi
#

Any recommendations for a zigbee bridge? I see the sonoff flashed with Tasmota is usually recommended but I’d like to get something ready to go (and I can’t find them pre-flashed Anywhere to purchase). I don’t believe the usb sticks will work for me as my hass server is in my basement and I need range to go up at least two floors.

jovial aspen
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Why not just do that?

sour shadow
#

Because it's a crap Zigbee coordinator?

obsidian sandalBOT
#

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
ivory hound
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@sour shadowfound your blog mate, good stuff

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in fact found it a long time ago and just now i sow is yours

sour shadow
#

It's gone quite lately, since life has got in the way, but hopefully I'll find the time to actually tinker with HA again soon

royal mist
#

Has someone found a decent way to swap batteries on these Aqara Temp/Hum/pressure sensors? What I've had to do previously was, delete the device from HA, restart HA, swap battery, re-pair, and then often some stuff doesn't work. It would report on all sensors but leave out battery for example

Running ZHA + Conbee II

solid inlet
#

Hi guys! I have a strange issue with Z2M, or more precicely updating a Trådfri switch with it. I have a Trådfri On/Off switch that Ikea has released an update for, but my Z2M won't see it. Says {"fileVersion":587699761,"url":"http://fw.ota.homesmart.ikea.net/global/GW1.0/01.16.026/bin/10005778-10.1-TRADFRI-onoff-shortcut-control-2.3.079.ota.ota.signed"} and closes with no update available... A guess would be that Ikea named it "... ota.ota.signed", or does it usually look like that?

sour shadow
azure tinsel
#

just make sure you dont keep them offline for a long period of time i guess. i had allot of devices that i just removed the batteries from but they just connect back to the network afterwards

royal mist
#

I do keep them offline for a little while, I'm a lazy bastard

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Alright, I'll check it out again, thanks guys

azure tinsel
#

Even lazy people can swap a battery of these sensor in like 10 seconds...

sour shadow
#

Long time is > 24 hours

azure tinsel
#

Tinkerer what kind of blog do you have. can you provide a link?

obsidian sandalBOT
azure tinsel
#

sweet! you shared your complete config of home assistant. Going to take a look for ideas 🙂

echo sentinel
#

Hey everyone -- still trying to get my hive slr2 controller working properly in ZHA.
it needs a quirk, but probably a very basic one -- the climate entities don't respect the running_state of the thermostat cluster.
any help appreciated over at: https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/1091

tropic depot
gentle flint
ivory hound
ivory hound
solid inlet
scarlet wadi
ivory hound
molten linden
solid inlet
valid wharf
#

Hi!

I'm having issues binding two aqara wireless remote switches. I was able to bind one but due to an issue I have to rebind evetything after deleting a file.

Do you know how to reset the devices and bind it again? I have removed the battery for a few minutes and tried the bind process again (hold two buttons at the same time for about 10 seconds). No luck binding those. Any ideas about what can i do?

(Posted this on #hardware-archived and they sent me over here)

scarlet wadi
valid wharf
molten linden
scarlet wadi
#

I see. Any idea when more will be in stock? Everything seems out of stock

molten linden
#

so I have a waiting list (linked on main page) had a month or so with no zigbee modules so it sort of got backed up. I'm working through it now, and expect to be caught up on most non-PoE products within a week or so. I can give you more details if you DM me.

opal trail
#

I just joined the waitlist yesterday as well, very excited 😄

sacred seal
#

my ZigBee motion sensor is extremely spotty... Is there a chance I set it up wrong? the other ZigBee devices work perfectly

sacred seal
#

it's aqara btw

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it's either "unavailable" or "clear" no matter whats in front of it haha

ivory hound
#

re pair it

sacred seal
gentle flint
#

If it's new aqara motion sensor, then it is more incompatible than before and aqara did that on purpose

lilac wharf
#

Lol really? Wow

violet dagger
#

🍻 here's to zigbee 3.0

jolly narwhal
#

I'll wait for 4.2

austere patio
#

Or is it 3.0 in the same way that Tuya is 3.0

violet dagger
#

each device requests a specific code from aqara branded hubs, if its not provided it just "kinda" works

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like my e1 door sensor reporting only on state 🙃

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they indeed took tuya's playbook

austere patio
#

Like a fixed code or one that the hub requests from Aqara based on the device's IEEE or something?

violet dagger
#

i didnt go into details

lilac wharf
#

From what I understand, Zigbee 3.0 doesn't prevent manufacturers from doing their own thing

violet dagger
#

a year ago everyone here was talking how great itll be when everyone goes zigbee 3.0 because its "standardised"

austere patio
#

😭

violet dagger
#

seems its just gotten worse

austere patio
#

I bet Aqara will join the Zigbee Alliance next...

violet dagger
#

you mean CSA or whatever they're called now

austere patio
#

Oh, they rebranded

jolly narwhal
#

😶‍🌫️

gentle flint
austere patio
#

I believe the Conbee lets the application configure it. Z-Stack will require it to be changed in source.

left mist
#

I was under the assumption all mains powered devices act like routers. I have some new Sengled bulbs that just report as end devices 😦

lilac wharf
#

Yep, Sengled bulbs are an exception unfortunately

left mist
#

ugh wish I knew that before

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dammit

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my usb stick is in the basement so I was trying to improve my mesh

lilac wharf
#

Returnable?

left mist
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meh its not a big deal

sour shadow
#

So many people turn off their smart lights that Sengled made a choice to make theirs end devices

lilac wharf
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Apparently

sour shadow
#

IMO it's a smart choice, given how dumb humans are

lilac wharf
#

I love their additional "logic" about having too many routers which can "delay messages and slow down the network" 🤔

left mist
#

I normally buy ikea bulbs but they havent been around in months

jolly narwhal
#

Interesting

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We are fully stocked in IKEA here

lilac wharf
#

They should have just left it at what they said above that 🤣

left mist
#

not in NA it seems specifically Canada

left mist
lilac wharf
#

Well, read the whole thing. That's the only dumb part

left mist
#

yeah

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i know I have to tape my switches lol

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any recommendations other than hue?

remote pond
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I have deConz addon installed and have plugged in the Conbee 2 into the rpi running HA os. What are the next steps to get it up and running? I have selected and saved the conbee device radio option under the deConz config. I read the documentation but it doesnt seem to address what to do about the Phoscon or deConz buttons in the deConz sidebar ui. Also, Im not seeing deConz autodiscovered as an integration as I expected it would be per the docs

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Let me know if that should have been in the addons channel

scarlet bramble
echo sparrow
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I purchased 4 Smoke detector with siren (SMSZB-120) and added these to zigbee2mqtt, 3 of them works perfectly. The last one seems OK alarm wise, but its not reporting temperature?

Any ideas on how to fix this?
Logfile: https://pastebin.com/cCRf4W2A

scarlet bramble
echo sparrow
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Conbee II

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Strange that 3 of 4 works :S

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Added this, seems to work (atleast for now 🙂 )

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small kettle
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I have a Conbee II. Can I add IKEA Trådfri lamps directly using ZHA or do i need deConz or something?

sour shadow
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Yes, you can

austere patio
#

You can use either ZHA or deCONZ. But not both.

small kettle
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ok

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Hmm can't find exactly how. Know of any good guide?

sour shadow
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How to what?

small kettle
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Add a trådfri bulb using ZHA

austere patio
#

Go to the list of integrations, select ZHA, and then click the "add device" button at the bottom right corner of your screen

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You'll have 60s to do the Trådfri reset procedure, which is something like off for 5s, then flip on/off every second six times. The bulb will then show up when it tries to join the network.

small kettle
#

Aaah thanks it was the on/off part I was missing.

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Silly

ivory hound
small kettle
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[zigpy_deconz.zigbee.application] Error while sending 8 req id broadcast: TXStatus.MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE

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Anyone know what that error is?

austere patio
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Too much RF noise and the Conbee is refusing to transmit

small kettle
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Ah yeah I read that could happen. How long does it have to be? Is 0.6 meters long enough?

austere patio
#

As long as it moves the Conbee away from USB 3.0 ports, raspberry pis, 2.4 GHz routers, SSDs, power supplies, etc. it'll work

small kettle
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Ok thanks 🙂

remote pond
#

Anyone know if I select Phoscon or deCONZ from the deCONZ sidebar after adding the deCONZ addon?

ivory hound
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question: ppl still use deCONZ? question2: why?

jolly narwhal
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⛔

plain parrot
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I also have a question about zigbee lights: is it possible to overwrite the capabilities of a light in Home Assistant?
I have several Innr GU10 ZigBee white ambiance bulbs which are falsely seen as color-capable lights in HA, which causes them to act weird in scenes

jolly narwhal
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But white ambiance is a colour spectrum thing 🤔

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Isn't it

remote pond
ivory hound
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use ZHA if you are not a geek and don't like to tinker with stuff to much (don't get it wrong ZHA is very powerful) or use Zigbee2MQTT if you are advanced

remote pond
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I read that deConz is more reliable than ZHA and possibly more so than Z2M.

ivory hound
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do not use that deCONZ you will level to what I've say now in some time

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hahaha

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where

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on their website?

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:))))

#

that was the joke of the day

remote pond
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It was on some threads when searching ha deconz vs zha vs zigbee2mqtt

plain parrot
remote pond
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You would recommend using Zigbee2mqtt though?

plain parrot
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The Innr ones did not
So I'd somehow have to override what HA thinks the lights are capable of

jolly narwhal
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All I can say is more users have issues with deconz than any of the other implementations from my experience 🤷‍♂️

ivory hound
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stick around here 1 week @remote pond you will see most of ppl with issues use "You've guess it, deCONZ"

remote pond
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Ive never used zigbee before, but dont ant to have to reset up all the stuff if I find that ZHA doesnt do all that I want it to.

jolly narwhal
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@plain parrot sounds like an integration issue, what are you using ? z2m ? zha ? deconz ?

plain parrot
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Direct ZHA integration with the ConBee 2

jolly narwhal
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then someone who knows ZHA would have to comment on how to change it, I have no idea

plain parrot
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Works perfectly fine with the Philips, I guess Innr cheaped out on the implementation

ivory hound
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@plain parrottbh i think the problem is deCONZ stick, this is for @remote pond too

remote pond
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Can you specify some reasons to use Z2M rather than deConz, other than reliability? Just wanting to kno if they have different functions or whatnot

ivory hound
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honestly i have one that i would donate gladly

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@remote pondyou have to read about it from the website, but yes z2mqtt is most advanced from all 3

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you ca do a lot with zigbee2mqtt

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calibrate temps

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etc

plain parrot
jolly narwhal
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The main reason I use Z2M is decoupling, on top of that it is rock solid, I seldom have time to upgrade my software more often than every 2-3 months, and it never has issues, it always supports the hardware I buy out of the box and frankly, that is all I can ask for, it supports everything, it is rock solid, and it doesn't die every time I restart HA

remote pond
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Ok, I was at the github for HA Z2M, it said that I needed to add a custom addon link through supervisor, does that sound correct? I didnt see anything about Z2M in HA system otherwise.

jolly narwhal
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Addons are just docker containers with fairy dust

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and not all of us run addons or supervisor

ivory hound
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look a clear example is what @jolly narwhal say, let's say you have zigbee2mqtt on a host you don't touch, and your ha is down, your light will still be controllable and will work, all your zigbee network will still be up

remote pond
jolly narwhal
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Conbee is probably the worst coordinator of them all

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so I wouldn't run Z2M with that

remote pond
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ah, what would you recommend for hardware?

jolly narwhal
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I use an Electrolama ZZH currently, used to use a CC1352p2

ivory hound
remote pond
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I have my HA running on an RPi

ivory hound
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you can have ha on a pi

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and z2m on second pi

remote pond
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ah, so is that not installing z2m on the HA instance, but just having it installed on the other pi and using mqtt to talk between?

ivory hound
remote pond
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I have a few extra pis so that shouldnt be an issue, and I have the mqtt broker set up on my HA. So is that how I would do it?

ivory hound
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and @remote pond if i would be you, i'd so everything in docker containers

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forget about ha os

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and addons

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just my 2 cents

remote pond
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Well I dont have another system to run HA on at the moment. Unless you mean put HA on docker on the RPi

ivory hound
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if you start on this path, start right even if learning curve is steep

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yes

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you can do that

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put ha on pi via docker

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when you do everything via docker (learn docker-compose if you don't know) you will see you can update everything very fast

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and all is very stable

remote pond
# ivory hound if you start on this path, start right even if learning curve is steep

Yeah I gotcha, and oh ok. I'll think about it. My thought right now is to just use what I have and work on upgrading later. Let me know if this sounds right.

So I'll install Z2M on a second pi, use conbee 2 until I can get another controller, and then Z2M should be able to integrate with HA OS on my first rpi through the mqtt broker on my HA instance. Correct?

ivory hound
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i woull do this if i would be you

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not touch anything now

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leave all as is until you get a proper coordinator

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then move mqtt broker and zigbee2mqtt on docker containers on second pi (preferable pi4)

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and then switch ha to first pi on docker container

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this is the path i'd recommend

remote pond
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@ivory hound Well the thing is I have some zigbee plugs that I was looking to get up and running asap since I wanted to control some grow lights with them. I understand the concept though and will look into it.

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Why do you recommend docker HA over HA os?

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if I missed where you explained that, my bad

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@jolly narwhal thanks for the info

jolly narwhal
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and not to forget, decoupling

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I can move my HA and all other components freely between my servers

remote pond
jolly narwhal
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yes

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I currently run HA on one system, z2m on another, databases on a third

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etc

ashen coral
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That's also why you should pair your controllers to your lights in your zigbee controller, and not only through hass.

jolly narwhal
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I can then easily spin up HA on a second system

remote pond
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Ok makes sense. I havent done much with containers, other than misusing portainer on HA. But would like to learn

jolly narwhal
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and just resume life

remote pond
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Suppose I could google this, but do I need to set up my RPi again to use containers, such as flashing another os and reconfiguring, or should it work ith raspbian?

jolly narwhal
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Yeah, raspberry pi OS is fine

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Then just folllow the installation guide for docker and docker-compose

ivory hound
ashen coral
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If done right it works even if deconz/z2m/whatever is down too.

jolly narwhal
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a lot of zigbee buttons don't support binding, so that isn't always an option either @ivory hound

ivory hound
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@remote pond yah welcome man, a lot of smart ppl here they will help you out

remote pond
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@jolly narwhal @ashen coral @ivory hound

Ok, thanks again for the suggestions. I guess I got some stuff to think about.

mighty bloom
sour shadow
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Checked the MQTT payload? Sounds like the definition in Z2M needs modified

mighty bloom
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MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Sunroom Thermostat', payload '{"child_lock":"UNLOCK","current_heating_setpoint":20,"deadzone_temperature":null,"heat":"ON","linkquality":21,"local_temperature":1.8,"local_temperature_calibration":0,"max_temperature":40,"max_temperature_limit":null,"preset":"hold","preset_mode":"hold","running_state":"heat","sensor":"IN","system_mode":"heat"}'

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Payload is showing as 1.8C atm. Shows as 18C on the actual thermostat.

Where do I find the Z2M definitions?

sour shadow
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I have it working by making a json in the Zibgee2MQTT folder. I have used the definitions for the MOES thermometer.

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Right there

mighty bloom
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umm, ok, any hints how to? I have tried using tuya for just the temp input instead of moes.thermostat.

Is there a way to put a modifier on the local.temperature?

I have tried putting a * 10 onto the local.temperature on expose: Yet, it's not changing the value shown.

obsidian sandalBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view.

Command '~share' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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Maybe if you shared the JSON?

mighty bloom
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Sorry, new here

remote pond
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@jolly narwhal Do I have to install docker engine and docker compose from those links you posted earlier, then go through the Z2M docker install instructions?

jolly narwhal
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yes

remote pond
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Ok, thanks.

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Are you aware if Raspbian still is not able to use the "Install using repository" option? asking since theres a message before the "Set up repo" step saying that Raspbian cant use the repo, and needs to use the convenience script. But in the same "install using repo" section under "Install docker engine" it says that that the install docker engine procedure works for Raspbian.

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Or am I supposed to run the convenience script, then go back to the "Install docker engine" section

jolly narwhal
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I would follow the debian install docs

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oh no

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Raspbian users cannot use this method!

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Then follow this

remote pond
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Yeah im in the debian section right now, and ok gotcha. So the convenience script should set everything up as far as im aware?

jolly narwhal
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yes, except docker-compose

remote pond
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YEah and then I go through the compose docs for install.

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using the linux system commands

jolly narwhal
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yes

remote pond
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Well at least its a pi, if i break something i can just reflash and start over

jolly narwhal
remote pond
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yeah thanks, sorry for the dumb questions

jolly narwhal
remote pond
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oh ok, i can do that. Im guessing z2m questions, once I get there, would be under this channel again though

jolly narwhal
remote pond
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ok

ivory hound
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ah the channels 😄

#

i remember when i got it wrong 🙂 oh boy was I in trouble

jolly narwhal
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😠

smoky hornet
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I've been playing around with a aqara cube.

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It seems to get overwhelmed with commands. I'm wondering if I can add like a 5 second debounce or something like that.

smoky hornet
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When I watch the events in developer tools they seem to all be registered. But sometimes the automations aren't triggering

jolly narwhal
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I've been playing with a aqara cube for 2 years, z2m triggers on every action I do, even if I do 20 of them after one another

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Not sure what you mean by overwhelmed

smoky hornet
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It does seem like the actions are triggered as I see them in the dev tools if I listen to zha_event

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But the automations aren't firing.

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It seems like it might run the first 1 or 2 but then it kind of stops

jolly narwhal
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Yeah no issues with that here, these are the automations I'm using that always trigger fine

#

Is your mesh strong with lots of routers?

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And what coordinator are you using?

gentle flint
smoky hornet
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That's probably worth more investigation. What's considered strong?

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Using conbee2

unreal plover
jolly narwhal
smoky hornet
jolly narwhal
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255 isn't.... Great

smoky hornet
#

it's literally 4 foot from a s31 zb lite

jolly narwhal
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It might not be paired to that outlet

smoky hornet
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Right. I thought that was auto-negotiated. Still learning how the mesh works.

jolly narwhal
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Xiaomi usually binds to one router, and stays there

smoky hornet
#

okay interesting.

#

So is the best practice to pair it from the location you'll be using it from?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

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This is true for all ZigBee devices

smoky hornet
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okay that's great to know.

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I was pairing them all in front of my PC

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But I could just as easily do it from the phone app

jolly narwhal
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Pair in place, pair routers first then end devices, when making a new mesh

smoky hornet
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Is there an easy way to blow away the entire mesh and start over? Just remove the devices one by one?

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I did see a zigbee.db file somewhere

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I wonder if I just blow that away

jolly narwhal
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Repair one by one in an outwards spiral is what I did

smoky hornet
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Are there updated firmwares for the aqara devices themselves?

jolly narwhal
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Nope

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Not that I've seen

smoky hornet
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I'm kind of torn if I should pick up more s31 zb lite plugs or not.

jolly narwhal
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I don't use sonoff at all, so no idea how they are

smoky hornet
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Any recommendations for routers?

jolly narwhal
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I use mostly tradfri bulbs and outlets

opaque chasm
#

Hi. I have a problem with my air quality sensor AQSZB-110. I get an exception when I try to join it via ZHA. I already have a ticket open (https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/59248), but I hoped that maybe someone has seen this as well and found a way to make it work. I would really like to use the device

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I can adopt the device but no sensor data gets added. I guess it is because it has no entities asociated.

#

The exception happens while creating the entities.

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I would like to help with solving the problem but I don't know how

smoky hornet
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I don't have any answer for you but from a code perspective, ch_names is not set so it can't join it.

opaque chasm
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Yes I saw that. But I don't know which entity does that

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And I wouldn't even know why

smoky hornet
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My python skills are minimal at best, but you'd probably have to backtrack to figure out why that variable is empty.

#

let me see if I can find it on github

opaque chasm
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I found the code

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I have it but the log doesn't give me any idea about the Object which causes this

smoky hornet
#

Let me see if I can find the code. I'll take a quick look.

opaque chasm
#

It's in homeassistant/components/zha/entity.py

#

line 170

#

I assume ch.cluster.ep_attribute is None for one of the Channels

smoky hornet
#

It would be interesting to dump channels into the log

austere patio
opaque chasm
#

Sure

#

I set it up quickly

austere patio
#

It will print all of the discovered endpoints and clusters a few times in one line if you re-join the device, like this:

Read model 'ISW-ZPR1-WP13' and manufacturer 'Bosch' from <Endpoint id=5 in=[basic:0x0000, identify:0x0003, ias_zone:0x0500, poll_control:0x0020, temperature:0x0402, power:0x0001, diagnostic:0x0B05] out=[ota:0x0019] status=<Status.ZDO_INIT: 1>>
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One of those for you should look like None:0x1234 (you could probably search the log file for None:0x)

opaque chasm
#

Found the line: 0xea2a] Read model 'AQSZB-110' and manufacturer 'frient A/S' from <Endpoint id=38 in=[basic:0x0000, power:0x0001, identify:0x0003, poll_control:0x0020, temperature:0x0402, humidity:0x0405, None:0x042E, manufacturer_specific:0xFC03] out=[identify:0x0003, time:0x000A, ota:0x0019] status=<Status.ZDO_INIT: 1>>

austere patio
#

0x042e isn't in the manufacturer-specific range but looks like a manufacturer-specific cluster

#

The quirk matches against the following manufacturer and model as well, so it seems correct: ("frient A/S", "AQSZB-110"),

#

The joining log should verbosely list what happens when the device is tested against the matching signature for every single quirk. What's the reason for it not matching the AQSZB110 class?

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If you copy the existing quirk class with a different name (e.g. AQSZB110_2) and add 0x042E into the input cluster list, before RelativeHumidity.cluster_id,, the new quirk should start working for your device.

opaque chasm
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That sounds promising

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Stupid question: How do I set the custom_quirks_path if I configured ZHA via the GUI?

austere patio
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In your configuration.yaml file, just add a zha: key and add that subkey

opaque chasm
#

oaky

smoky hornet
#

Fingers crossed for a success!

austere patio
#

Normally this wouldn't be a critical error and your device would just join and the parts that follow the spec would work. But for some reason your manufacturer decided to "extend" the spec and add a new cluster outside of the range of clusters that manufacturers are allowed to use for their own custom stuff.

opaque chasm
#

Much fun

#

But the fun thing is that this is exactly the device from the quirks file

#

this is the frients A/S AQSZB-110

inner gorge
#

I'm also trying to debug a zha quirk that I'm working on. I can see that the quirk matches, and in the logs I can see a 0x642E:1:0x0500]: Updated alarm state: ZoneStatus.Alarm_1 but the reset never seems to turn the device off

opaque chasm
#

It works now @austere patio Thank you very much for your help

smoky hornet
austere patio
#

Hmm. Looking more closely, it seems like that quirk effectively renames the manufacturer-specific cluster (0xFC03) to be this VOC cluster (0x042E). Since yours has both, I'm not sure if that existing 0x042E cluster is working normally or if the manufacturer-specific one is being used. You should open an issue (or a pull request) in the https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/ repo.

austere patio
inner gorge
#

yep!

#

I'm inheriting the MotionOnEvent parent

austere patio
#

Seems like it should work. Do you not see Resetting motion sensor in the log?

nova jasper
#

Hi guys, i use a conbee 2 stick with deconz for my zigbee network. As far as i can tell it all works fine, except for the fact that i cannot add an aqara door sensor. I tried 2 of them but they just won't pair. I press the pair button for a few secs but it just will not pair. Other xiaomi devices no problem. I tried to update the firmware of my gateway and that succeeds. Only after a complete restart, the gateway show the same update again. I tried it 3 times but it seems to not want to update the firmware while it gives me a success message every time.. Any ideas?

austere patio
#

Have you changed the batteries in the door sensors?

inner gorge
austere patio
#

And you're seeing TuyaVibration listed as the current quirk for that device in the ZHA device page?

inner gorge
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yeah Quirk: zhaquirks.tuya.ts0210.TuyaVibration

austere patio
#

Are you editing the zhaquirks folder directly within site-packages?

inner gorge
#

yeah and then clearing the pycache

austere patio
#

Hmm. And you're doing a full HA restart after changing things?

inner gorge
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yep full restart, I tried changing the class name of the quirk and restarting to see if it was cached somewhere and it changed on the device page after restarting too

#

well, I'm restarting via the UI, not killing the pod/container

austere patio
#

Can you post a debug log showing the device sending its event and then the reset task not being triggered?

inner gorge
#

I don't know too much about how the flow of things is supposed to go, but it looks like this is getting handled by something in the zha base and not quirks for some reason

#

yep for sure

#

0x642e is the device

austere patio
#

What is logged 15-20 seconds after Received motion event message?

inner gorge
inner gorge
#

my gut says that it maybe has something to do with this _CONSTANT_ATTRIBUTES = {ZONE_TYPE: IasZone.ZoneType.Vibration_Movement_Sensor }

#

Or at least I'm not sure the significance of that or where that value comes from

balmy ginkgo
#

anyone ever see smart 'tube' light? ('Fluorescent'/LED tubes?)

smoky hornet
#

I haven't. I guess a smart plug would work. Not sure why you'd want flourescent though

balmy ginkgo
#

i have a wifi relay box i can put there.

#

I want LED

#

they go inside the same socket with a special starter. (Is just a short)

smoky hornet
#

right I've seen some of those

balmy ginkgo
#

I love them. They are instant on those LED versions. No more blink blink

#

tbut currently they are dumb

inner gorge
#

Ok, I think I've tried using the hex of every reasonable value in the logs for the ZONE_TYPE attribute and I haven't been able to spot any real difference difference in how my device shows up or behaves, and it definitely seems to be loading this class somewhere since if I change the cluster_id to something other than the 0x0500 I get an error in the logs saying unknown endpoint or cluster_id

inner gorge
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And here's logs for me triggering a device with a working quirk vs my custom non-working one: https://pastebin.com/wg5PfBE7 the implementation on my cluster vs this other one is pretty much the same

balmy ginkgo
#

tried zigbee at my dads house.. but the 'target' was too far from stick. no receiption

sour shadow
#

Usable device to device range usually maxes out around 8 to 10 meters and is often a lot less

balmy ginkgo
#

yeah is about 14m i reckon

sour shadow
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If that was open air, you'd have a reasonable chance of it working, even with some interference

balmy ginkgo
#

does battery also drain more or is that just always same?

sour shadow
#

Yes

balmy ginkgo
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3 walls

sour shadow
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Weaker signals require more power

balmy ginkgo
#

so far away sensor drains more?

sour shadow
#

A sensor with a weaker signal will drain the battery faster than a sensor with a stronger signal

balmy ginkgo
#

nice, so 'hubs' are important for battery

sour shadow
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Distance is one factor in signal strength, but so are the obstructions and interference

#

Routers, yes

balmy ginkgo
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Yeah i understand radio signals

#

just wasnt sure if sensors would adjust power

sour shadow
#

Thankfully they will tend to - if only to conserve power

#

I'm sure some brands will disappoint by being loud all the time

inner gorge
#

Most zigbee devices that are powered externally will act as routers, so you could get some smart cheap smart plugs and use them to extend your mesh

sour shadow
#

Sengled bulbs are an exception to that

inner gorge
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Yeah, I figured I might be over-generalizing. I don't know if there are additional hardware requirements surrounding router vs end device, but I imagine if there are there are probably a lot of devices that are exceptions in order to keep costs down

sour shadow
#

Thankfully you're right in that most mains powered devices are routers - Sengled are one of the few known exceptions

silk sphinx
#

hi, has anyone paired a friends of hue wall switch successfully with ZHA?

austere patio
silk sphinx
#

@austere patio yes exactly with the enocean module inside

#

energy harvesting stuff

austere patio
#

ZHA doesn't support ZGP yet

silk sphinx
#

thanks, didn't know the term for those modules

#

@sour dagger do you know if zigbee2mqtt supports them?

austere patio
#

I believe it does

silk sphinx
#

damn i was quite happy with zha 😄

austere patio
#

What coordinator are you using?

silk sphinx
#

conbee ii

austere patio
#

Hmm, I don't think the Conbee with Z2M supports green power devices

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Or no, it looks like it does

balmy ginkgo
#

yeah @inner gorge i was thinking maybe put some bulb halfway.. but knowing my dad he'd turn it off thenc omplain the sensor doesnt work 🙂

silk sphinx
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@austere patio i will let you know if it worked - aside from that i saw you're one of the zigpy devs, so thanks for the efforts

balmy ginkgo
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I will add bulb in his bedroom with a hand-button. So he can turn on and off from bed. That way it may stay on. Though if my own pavlov is an indication.. the amount of times i turned of light in toilet

silk sphinx
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@austere patio got it to work with zigbee2mqtt. thanks again and hopefully the ZGP PR gets merged to zigpy in the future 🙂

final pagoda
#

I don't know what I did (maybe upgraded) but my ZHA is not happy and seems to fail starting...

#

with a much bigger error

#

I am using a sonoff zigbee hub with tasmota on it.
It's logs keep showing HA connecting over and over.

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Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator
20:53:02 – (ERROR) Zigbee Home Automation
Couldn't start application
20:53:02 – (ERROR) /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/zigpy/application.py
NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart
20:52:57 – (ERROR) /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bellows/ezsp/init.py
Lost serial connection: read failed: socket disconnected
20:52:57 – (ERROR) /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bellows/uart.py

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over and over and over...

final pagoda
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I tried removing the integration and readding it... it fails to add....

crude otter
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Hey, im using a "Lockwood T-Lock" (Yale smart lock) with ZHA and im having some issues with it

gentle flint
crude otter
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if i manually unlock the door with the handle, the status does not seem to be updated in HA.. im not sure if this is by design, or not

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actually, the locked status doesnt seem to update even if i use a pin code

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it seems ZHA always sees it as 'locked'

smoky hornet
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I wonder if these aqara motion detectors can detect mice

inner gorge
# gentle flint Once you change the value of the constant attribute, you have to read that attri...

Thanks! So I think I'm a bit closer. I noticed that a lot of the other Tuya devices were inheriting from a TuyaManufCluster base, so I tried a few variations of what the ts0601 implementation was doing and I can see in the log the quirk handling the event and also performing the reset, but I've removed and readded the sensor and it only reports the battery even though it looks like its setting the state in the logs

crude otter
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its kinda useless if the lock isnt reporting its status

crude otter
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lock.office_door_lock_door_lock: Error with lock_door: Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.MAC_NO_ACK: 233> appears in my logs too

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and the lock sometimes isnt responding to lock/unlock requests

inland coral
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Does anyone has any recommendations for high brightness (over 1000lm or >12W) zigbee light bulbs? I bought a couple of Aliexpress that said 15W, but are actually quite dim, more like 9W

sour shadow
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Where in the world? What fitting?

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Ikea to at least a couple of options there, I'm sure Hue will too

inland coral
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Fitting doesnt matter as I have converters, either the screw or they bayonet one will do. Will check out ikea. Thanks. Hue are really good, but very overpriced

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Hm, Ikea ones only go up to 1056lm, still better than 800-odd i guess

sour shadow
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Hue are "overpriced" because they're really good

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In reality they're not overpriced, you're getting what you pay for

inland coral
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I would agree, but there are other ones which are just as good, for half the price. Lvwit ones are flawless too

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They are wifi though.

crude otter
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I saw a 'lightbulb camera' the other day

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as in, its a PTZ camera that screws into a lightbulb fitting

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what a time to be alive 😛

jolly narwhal
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That is either very creepy or very handy

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Not sure yet

sour shadow
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It can be both...

jolly narwhal
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Depends on the level on concealment I guess

crude otter
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nah, its obviously a camera

jolly narwhal
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not sure where I would actually have use for anything like that

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then again I am nono to indoor cameras

crude otter
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me too

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but i can see that some people might have a use for it

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very clearly a camera.

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ok, so is there a way to make a battery end device connect to a nearby mains powered one?

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or is it 'automagic' ?

jolly narwhal
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you can do selective router pairing in most zigbee integrations

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I have never used it

crude otter
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i am using ZHA

jolly narwhal
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then I have no idea, but it is in there somewhere

sour shadow
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The best you can do is set it to pair through a specific device

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Whether it stays using that is up to the device

crude otter
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how can i attempt that

sour shadow
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I don't use ZHA, but it'd be part of the pairing menu

inland coral
jolly narwhal
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wanna come home and look at my stamp collection

neat pulsar
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Hello. The ventilation of my house can have 2 speed. While I could select speed 1 or 2 with a regular switch (juice would to either 1 or 2 connection of the vent), I am not able to find a zigbee compatible device to reproduce that.

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There is a Fibaro device (FGR-222 or alos FGR-223) that does what I need but that's not zigbee.

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Would you have any suggestion because google has not been helpful so far. Thanks

crude otter
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how do i get it all to mesh properly?