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remote wagon
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No, that was not a permanent configuration change.

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I don't have a HA discovery option here.

lilac wharf
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Yeah sorry, hit "reconfigure MQTT"

remote wagon
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That shows me the host/port/username/password prompt again.

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Ah

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And next shows more options.

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It's enabled.

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Maybe I should remove and re-add the zigbee device to cause the messages to be sent properly.

lilac wharf
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Nope, just check that HA discovery is enabled in z2m too and restart z2m

remote wagon
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I have this line:

homeassistant: true

But I do not have:

advanced:
  homeassistant_discovery_topic: 'homeassistant'
  homeassistant_status_topic: 'homeassistant/status'
  homeassistant_legacy_entity_attributes: true
  homeassistant_legacy_triggers: true
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The link seems to indicate they are default true however.

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Yeah, the UI shows them as active as well. But no devices.

lilac wharf
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.share your z2m config (mask the network key)

obsidian sandalBOT
remote wagon
lilac wharf
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yeah, i'd add

  homeassistant_discovery_topic: 'homeassistant'
  homeassistant_status_topic: 'homeassistant/status'
``` under advanced
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i'd also set permit_join to false

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and then restart z2m

remote wagon
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The second one shows as hass/status in the UI

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Hmmm.

lilac wharf
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yeah, they need to match

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the MQTT integration and z2m, i mean

remote wagon
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That may have been it then.

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One moment, testing.

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But still no devices in HA

lilac wharf
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did you restart z2m?

remote wagon
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Yes, changing the config forces a restart

lilac wharf
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doesn't need to be on the HA host

remote wagon
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Okay, installed and connected.

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I'm seeing a lot of traffic on the zigbee2mqtt topic (0xblabla) left press etc.

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But hardly anything on the homassistant topic.

lilac wharf
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that's fine; anything there is only published once for discovery

remote wagon
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And nothing on homeassistant/status at all

lilac wharf
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so the discovery topic for z2m is set to homeassistant?

remote wagon
remote wagon
lilac wharf
remote wagon
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Err, I just disconnected from mqtt and after reconnecting the entire screen is empty.

lilac wharf
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that's weird; the discovery messages should be retained

remote wagon
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New messages aren't showing up in MQTT explorer either.

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How the hell did I manage to break the explorer program x_x

remote wagon
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Well, I am stumped. Tediore, thanks for your help so far, if you or anyone else wants to help further I'd be happy, but I'm strongly considering giving up (at least on z2m) for now.

remote wagon
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And I tried ZHA to no avail, it only detects the switch as a battery device.

lilac wharf
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yeah, i'm a heavy user of MQTT, but i don't use the z2m addon so i probably won't be of as much help as someone who does

sour shadow
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That's because ZHA uses events for remotes, not entities

lilac wharf
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yeah, you have to listen to zha_event for that

remote wagon
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That would be Developer Tools -> Events -> Listen to events with zha_event right?

spice shoal
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I'm considering going pretty heavily into some zigbee bulbs...what's the recommendation? are the sengled bulbs any good?

remote wagon
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Well there are Philips Hue bulbs, but I'm trying to get zigbee to work atm. If/when I do I will get back to you on the topic of whether the bulbs are good. That said, it depends on your set-up, your budget and what you're looking for in bulbs.

tired lagoon
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Hi there.
Is there any way to get the actual deCONZ beta v2.13.1 installed when using the Home Assistant addon?

spice shoal
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I don't need color everywhere and if the sengled are 'good enough' then I'll proceed

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I do have the consideration of light state on power restore which from what I've read the sengled bulbs have added support for restore previous state in more recent firmwares

austere patio
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Any Zigbee 3.0 compliant bulb should have power on state options

spice shoal
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ah, that's exactly the kind of gotcha I've been looking for

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I'm pretty new to zigbee, how would I know if my controller is 3.0? have any recommendation for a 3.0 compliant bulb?

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I've got the nortek controller and flashed the updated firmware to it

austere patio
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Most of the popular ones have Zigbee 3.0 firmware, like IKEA, Hue, cheap rebranded LEEDARSON firestarters, etc.

spice shoal
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and yeah, I've got a hue bridge I suppose...do non-hue bulbs pair with that ok?

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certainly don't want firestarters lol

austere patio
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They were (still are?) $4 each but if you run them at like 70-80% brightness, they stay cool. They also dim to an absurdly low level, though they seem to take 10-15s to actually turn on at 1% brightness when they're cold.

spice shoal
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lol I'll pass

austere patio
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No clue. I would assume the Hue bridge works with 3.0 bulbs but you never know.

spice shoal
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fair enough

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I think the hue bridge taps out around 60 devices, are other controllers similar in their limits?

sour shadow
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Nah, proper controllers can do far more

austere patio
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Coordinators have child limits but each router grows that number so it's effectively limitless, you'll sooner run into other issues after exceeding a few hundred device

sour shadow
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I've got over 60 devices, I know people with around 150

spice shoal
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ok cool

lilac wharf
austere patio
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🙂

lilac wharf
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Ecoshart

spice shoal
sour shadow
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Ikea

spice shoal
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I assume with that many you like them?

sour shadow
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Not as nice as Hue, but a fraction of the cost 😄

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I don't have 60 bulbs

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I only have a handful, because my setup is:

  1. Mostly sensors
  2. Mostly avoiding smart bulbs
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I don't believe in attaching a smart bulb to a wall switch, and I do believe that wall switches should work...

spice shoal
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understood on #2, my intent is to outfit lutron pico remotes everywhere for the wall switches with the wire effectively always on

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do the ikea bulbs have any known issues such as fire problems? are they 3.0 compliant such that the power restored situation can restore them in an off state?

sour shadow
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They're fine AFAIK - you can set the power restore behaviour, and the default colour temperature too

spice shoal
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ok I'll take a look, which model(s) do you have have? do they offer color bulbs?

austere patio
jolly narwhal
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Ikea has both CT and RGB bulbs

austere patio
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As for the "fire" problems, I'm exaggerating a little. They just run really hot, they don't catch on fire.

jolly narwhal
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The RGB stuff is eeeh, but such is most RGB stuff

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I haven't had an ikea bulb lockup the last 3 years

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So no idea about that

austere patio
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It's supposedly caused by child devices shifting around so if your network doesn't change much, you won't see the problem as soon

jolly narwhal
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Well no, all my devices are paired in place and never moved

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Except the Xiaomi cubes

lilac wharf
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Meaning switching parents; not necessarily physically moving

jolly narwhal
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They apparently don't do that either then

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Why would they though if the parent never loses power

lilac wharf
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It's not guaranteed to happen, and it's more prevalent on larger networks apparently

jolly narwhal
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My small network of 120 devices

spice shoal
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ok this has been helpful information, thanks everyone! I think this is a good base to run with!

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ah, 1 more, do the ikea bulbs act as repeaters?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

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As do the outlets

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Most mains powered devices do

spice shoal
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yeah right

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I presume the ikea would work with my nortek controller?

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and is the general recommendation as it relates to ha to run with z2m or use the zha integration?

austere patio
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With your coordinator, ZHA

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I don't think it runs with Z2M with the updated firmware

spice shoal
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ah ok, should I not have updated it lol?

austere patio
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If you want to run it with Z2M, no. Support for Silicon Labs in Z2M is experimental.

spice shoal
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does zha support upgrading firmware on the devices by chance? I noticed z2m had that feature

austere patio
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It's not integrated into the GUI but yes, you can do OTA upgrades

spice shoal
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good enough for me 😄

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specifically if I go with ikea that 'just works'?

austere patio
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Yeah, IKEA was the first one we implemented

spice shoal
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guess I need to run to ikea today and grab some bulbs for testing

mighty river
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Hi guys

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has anyone got a conbee II working with z2m in HA? i know it is experimental, just wondering whether somebody achieved positive results.

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I've been troubleshooting some delays I've been recently experiencing, hopefully somebody will be able to help me

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with an opening sensor and a light turning on and off

jolly narwhal
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I haven't heard of a single happy ending with conbee and z2m

mighty river
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sometimes I see the sensor change in HA and the light turning on with a delay

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what's weird is sometimes I see the light turning on, and the sensor updating with a delay in HA

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how can this be?

mighty river
austere patio
mighty river
austere patio
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Which sensor?

mighty river
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what I don't understand is how come that in an automation that is if opening on => light on.. how come sometimes when I trigger it, the light turns on and the sensor isn't still updated in HA

mighty river
austere patio
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If the light turns on but the sensor isn't updated in HA, that seems like it's not a Zigbee problem

mighty river
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that's what I was wondering

austere patio
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So it probably has nothing to do with you using a Conbee

mighty river
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looks like wifi

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or whatever..

austere patio
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I mean if the sensor sent its message, the coordinator received it, then HA decided to turn on the light, and the Conbee sent that message to the light

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So the network is working as intended, right?

mighty river
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with delays sometimes, but yeah

austere patio
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Like a web interface delay, or the light turns on slowly?

mighty river
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I don't think I understand...

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there'sa delay between me opening the sensor and the light turning in

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on

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I must go, sorry, I'll be back later

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thanks

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thank you, brb

remote wagon
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Okay. I'm going for the re-install from scratch option. I've deleted all the z2m files in the config directory and want to install from scratch. My plan is to do as follows:

  1. Delete configs (z2m I found, but I can't find any mosquitto files) Does anyone know where it stores cache/data/etc?
  2. Install Mosquitto and set up the MQTT intergration for Home Assistant.
  3. Install z2m and point it to Mosquitto.
  4. Try and connect the Hue wall switch again.
    I also want to see how things go as I set this up, so if anyone knows how to get MQTT Explorer to work again, that would be amazing too.
    Any ideas on this plan? Stuff I missed, Stuff I shouldn't do?
mighty river
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@austere patio hey, sorry for leaving like that, I was in a hurry

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I believe I narrowed it down to a zigbee problem

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when I do zigbee trigger to wifi light, there are delays as I mentioned

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when I do wifi trigger to wifi light, there are no delays

austere patio
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You should try narrowing it down: is the delay caused by the Zigbee network, or is it somewhere in your automation code?

mighty river
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my automation flows haven't been changed in the last year

tropic depot
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do you have any message delivery failures in your logs?

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lots of folks w/ the combination of ZHA + conbee report issues... (many are also perfectly fine) the problem is they can be caused by all sorts of things that are specific to your unique situation

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Wifi or USB port signal interference, misbehaving Zigbee router devices, not enough Zigbee routers etc

mighty river
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do you mean in Configuration/Logs on in the zigbee.db?

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I have no messages in the Logs

tropic depot
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HA logs

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try turning on debug logs for ZHA (instructions are in the docs)

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maybe they'll help

mighty river
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I appreciate

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I have a conbee, 1 router and 22 devices

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is that too many devices?

tropic depot
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can you go to the zha config panel, go to the network map tab and take a screen shot... you can DM it to me or put it on something like imgur and share the link

mighty river
tropic depot
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yeah I am not surprised there are delays

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try adding a few more zigbee router devices

mighty river
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could you tell me how you interpret the map?

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so I don't come back again to bother you 🙂

tropic depot
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It’s by far the largest I have seen yet

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mine (not a conbee) is in that thread too

mighty river
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how do you know by watching at the map things are going ok or not?

tropic depot
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it just gives a general sense of the mesh and it allowed me to confirm that you do in fact only have a single Zigbee router

mighty river
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a coordinator and one router, yes

jolly narwhal
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One router yuckcat

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At least it is one more than the guy who had issues yesterday

tropic depot
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what did I miss?

remote wagon
mighty river
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how many more router would you recommend? I've heard IKEA routers/switches work well

jolly narwhal
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@mighty river as many as you can

remote wagon
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The philips hue Smart plug can be switch from Z2M and the Wall switch module is visible in homeassistant.

jolly narwhal
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I have 80+

remote wagon
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But the Wall switch module does not produce any events, it doesn't even show changes in the Z2M ui anymore..

jolly narwhal
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The bigger the area, the more walls, the more floors, more routers

mighty river
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would you recommend IKEA routers? any other inexpensive but good option?

jolly narwhal
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I almost exclusively use IKEA bulbs

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So yes

mighty river
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ok I appreciate then

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time to buy some routers

jolly narwhal
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I have 12 IKEA GU10 in outdoor fixtures that survive -30c to +30c, so they are study

worldly plinth
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I see the sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle as an available coordinator but will the zigbee bridge work?

mighty river
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it's just it's weird it's been working great for so many months and suddenly this

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I didn't expect to be a routers problem

tropic depot
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did you recently add more devices?

jolly narwhal
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Or more WiFi devices

mighty river
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I added just one recently, and removed it

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nope

jolly narwhal
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Or more Bluetooth devices

mighty river
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my home has been done for the last year, no more devices

ashen coral
mighty river
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just one more zigbee device recently that I removed a few hours later

lilac wharf
worldly plinth
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@lilac wharf Thanks. I figured as much but I already have it I figured I'd ask.

mighty river
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🤷‍♂️

tropic depot
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if you want a networked coordinator get one that is lan based not wifi

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the latency from the wifi one is not cool for serial comms

lilac wharf
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|| he means wired ||

tropic depot
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causes all sorts of issues

molten linden
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Wait that gives me an idea

lilac wharf
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Yeah, isn't EZSP really particular about that?

jolly narwhal
mighty river
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thank you all guys

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have a good day

lilac wharf
tropic depot
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I think they all are

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some folks have tried... what is it... ser2net or something like that w/ the usb devices

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never ends up working too well

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for ZHA another consideration is just what else is running in HA

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if the loop is stuttering

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ZHA is stuttering

lilac wharf
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Makes sense

tropic depot
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would be interesting to see what things would look like if we moved to the ZJS architecture... just don't have the motivation to try it

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😄

jolly narwhal
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Just not run anything else in ha slow_parrot

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🦴 🇷

worldly plinth
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Any recommendations on coordinators from the list on the website?

jolly narwhal
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Electrolama works great here

worldly plinth
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That one is out of stock apparently but it was the one I was looking at

lilac wharf
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You in the US?

worldly plinth
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Nice!

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Thank you.

jolly narwhal
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Tediore, master of deals

remote wagon
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Z2m's compatibility list has the Hue E27 white and color ambiance lamps, but my z2m is telling me the device is unsupported. Do I have a newer model or something?

jolly narwhal
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Sounds unlikely

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What is the part number?

worldly plinth
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Will there be any significant differences between the sonoff one and the electrolama one?

wispy locust
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should I replace the HUSBZB-1 with this I have problems connecting to sonoff zigbee devices as is

tropic depot
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what problems? I used that exclusively until recently w/o issues

remote wagon
wispy locust
jolly narwhal
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There actually is a new 2021 model @remote wagon

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The LCA006

remote wagon
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Damn.

tropic depot
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cole... i may have missed something... what buttons

jolly narwhal
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Probably already supported in z2m dev branch

remote wagon
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Since I am new to this, can someone help me through the 'adding new devices' guide? Or should I uninstall z2m and try the dev branch?

jolly narwhal
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I have run the Dev branch for two years

wispy locust
remote wagon
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Does the dev branch support devices that aren't in the website lookup for supported devices?

jolly narwhal
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Usually yes

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I think you can list the new supported ones somehow

austere patio
jolly narwhal
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Switching between dev and regular branch is just a reboot with docker, no idea if you run addons no

remote wagon
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Uninstall and install dev for addons, but I'm willing to give it a shot.

vestal atlas
worldly plinth
vestal atlas
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so you'd have to wait till someone adds support for it, or do it yourself 🙂

remote wagon
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I'm perfectly willing to do it myself, but I am a beginner and the guide is not the most straightforward to follow (especially since I am not even sure my setup is functional).

jolly narwhal
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If I had any free time I could help you

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My calendar is free from December 1st though

remote wagon
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I'll try my hand at it and get back here with questions (or should I take them to the z2m discord?)

jolly narwhal
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Both are probably options

remote wagon
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The closest match seems to be the:

{ zigbeeModel: ['LCA007'],
model: '9290024687',
vendor: 'Philips',
description: 'Hue White and Color Ambiance A19 1100 lumen',
meta: {turnsOffAtBrightness1: true},
extend: hueExtend.light_onoff_brightness_colortemp_color({colorTempRange: [153, 500]}),
ota: ota.zigbeeOTA, }
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My model number is [..]8 instead of [..]7

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So as a start I'm rewriting this entry.

jolly narwhal
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Yeah, that is what I did for a bulb earlier

remote wagon
austere patio
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Spread syntax should work, the editor may be assuming you're using an older standard

remote wagon
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Okay, Let's give it a shot

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Without the hueExtend I get the complaint hueExtend is not recognizes (clearly).
With it, however I get that error.

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I am now trying again using philips.js as template instead of the documentation template.

vestal atlas
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You have to import the ota module like you did with the other once, like "extend"

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like so
const ota = require('zigbee-herdsman-converters/lib/ota');

verbal harbor
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Hey, i have a question. What experience do you have using ikea lights with various zigbee software? I've been using Z2M for a few years now, tried to move to deconz but came across an issue with it and the lights. From what i read, the lights don't work correctly when sending both brightness and color in one zigbee command (and that is what breaks in deconz) but i've been doing that for ages now with Z2M and it seems to be handling it way better. I guess there is some special casing for this in Z2M?

remote wagon
# vestal atlas like so const ota = require('zigbee-herdsman-converters/lib/ota');

I did add the OTA, after which the last error appeared.
The current state of things. There are two issues:

  1. Almost everything seems to be working, but on start-up this error appears:
    https://paste.debian.net/1216859/
  2. My Philips Hue wall module fails to connect with the following error:
    attempt 1 (Error: Bind 0x001788010b010991/1 genPowerCfg from '0x00124b0023933b6c/1' failed (AREQ - ZDO - bindRsp after 10000ms)
    at Timeout._onTimeout (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/waitress.ts:64:35)
    at listOnTimeout (internal/timers.js:557:17) at processTimers (internal/timers.js:500:7))```
JS file:
    https://paste.debian.net/1216875/
spice shoal
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ok, picked up a few ikea bulbs and have them paired, is it possible to set the power on state using hass or to configure these things do I need to buy the bridge and then unpair after I'm done

austere patio
spice shoal
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Not sure I understand ‘cluster’ in that context

autumn warren
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Once a day, all of my Zigbee devices become unresponsive. restarting HA fixes it for a while, but it's not permanent.

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Looking in my logs, I see:

Logger: bellows.zigbee.application
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bellows/zigbee/application.py:705
First occurred: October 25, 2021, 11:29:05 AM (5 occurrences)
Last logged: October 25, 2021, 10:22:51 PM

Watchdog heartbeat timeout:

Logger: bellows.uart
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bellows/uart.py:155
First occurred: October 25, 2021, 10:23:04 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: October 25, 2021, 10:23:04 PM

Reset future is None

Logger: bellows.uart
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bellows/uart.py:199
First occurred: October 25, 2021, 10:23:04 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: October 25, 2021, 10:23:04 PM

Lost serial connection: device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)

Logger: bellows.ezsp
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bellows/ezsp/__init__.py:222
First occurred: October 25, 2021, 3:26:00 AM (76 occurrences)
Last logged: October 25, 2021, 10:23:04 PM

NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart
austere patio
spice shoal
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yup, perfect

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255 is previous value

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pretty sure I got what I need here

austere patio
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255 is "last value", 0 is off, 1 is on

crude otter
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so ive been using Sonoff Zigbee devices with the Sonoff ZBBridge thing, but now i have their new "ZigBee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus" and want to set it up

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i believe its to be setup using ZHA or something, but i have never used that.. how do i go about getting started? I run HA in a docker container

austere patio
crude otter
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"Zigbee Home Automation" ?

austere patio
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That's the one

crude otter
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i assume im using the "ZNP" option?

austere patio
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It should've autodetected the coordinator type but yes

crude otter
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i dont think i have it passed through to the docker

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gotta go get my kid from her class, will look into it more when i get back

gritty frigate
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Morning 🙂

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I managed to accidentally start z2m on top of zha - so ending up in a relatively weird situation with InvalidCommandResponse('Expected SRSP response AF.DataRequestExt.Rsp(Status=<Status.SUCCESS: 0>), got AF.DataRequestExt.Rsp(Status=<Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>)' in the logs.

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the devices seem to be intact, zigbee db is available, but I think my ZZH forgot the network

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any out from this w/o re-regging all the devices?

austere patio
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Last I checked (though it has been a while) Z2M overwrites network settings with its own defaults

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Did you ever have ZHA debug logging enabled?

gritty frigate
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hey puddly - where does it do that?

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I've got backup from a few days back (unless that happens on the stick)

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ZHA debugging: yeah I've got config for that - but was not enabled during the "event"

austere patio
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Like a backup of the stick? Or a backup of the HA container/virtual machine?

gritty frigate
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HA/vm configs

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not a backup of the stick unfortunately :/

austere patio
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ZHA keeps all network info on the stick. If you ever had ZHA debug logging enabled and started up the network, it would have read all of that info and logged it.

gritty frigate
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oh dear 🙂

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that was a while ago

austere patio
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But I suggest you first try unplugging and plugging the coordinator back in and see if that helps

gritty frigate
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sounds like fun times ahead lol

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yeah it's worth a try (rebooting the instance didn't help tho)

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the weird thing is that I see the device "binding" and "reporting" when reconfiguring it

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by device I mean a single sensor I'm using to test

austere patio
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Does anything work at all? If so, then your network settings are probably intact.

gritty frigate
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I can see stuff in the visualization - but that may be based on zigbee.db data

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but no, I can't seem to get a single sensor to switch or report data for now

austere patio
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Unless you're reconfiguring an Aqara sensor, I think those still show you that something is happening but since Aqara sensors can't actually be configured that's why it seems to work

gritty frigate
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there's a few aquara temp sensors, but a bunch of tuya compat, philips hue, too

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now what I'm interested in mostly is when I try to re-pair a single device, will HA recognize based on signature & db data that it's known (e.g. I don't have to name them all)

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I'll give it a go once restart finishes (and still having the trouble)

austere patio
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I believe it will. If you do have a large network and re-joining everything will possibly take a long time, see this earlier thread with someone else in the same situation: #zigbee-archived message

gritty frigate
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yeah, about 80 devices 🙂

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not sure if that counts as large these days though

crude otter
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now that i have ZHA setup, how do i get back to the screen to add devices?

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nevermind, found it

winged granite
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i used my cc2531 zigbee stick and everyone worked fine. then i bought the sonoff zigbee dongle plus with zigbee 3.0 support and tried to make it work. i shutdown the server, removed the old stick, inserted the new one.. and it looked like it would work. i was able to see devices and i was able to connect to one sensor. i thought everything is fine and i can rename the other sensors later. now i wanted to look at it again and no sensors are working, i cannot learn any new sensors, nothing happens. the stick does not seem to work at all. there is nothing in the logs. i dont know how to debug such zigbee stuff. anyone an idea to fix that? or is anyone using the same sonoff zigbee dongle plu?

crude otter
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Im having an issue with some ZigBee wireless buttons.. ZHA only seems to see the 'battery' part of it, but not the button

silver stump
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Hello there, I have a legrand netatmo switch and electro lama zigbee stick I am using zha.
To use the legrand switch I need to change the channel, what can I do by adding these lines to the config:
zha:
zigpy_config:
network:
channel: 11 # What channel the radio should try to use.
channels: [15, 20, 25] # Channel mask
My qouestion is that what is channels/channel mask is?

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what are those values should be?

trail gorge
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Hey friends, I just got a Conbee II and I wanted to use it instead of the CC2531 that I have because it is quite slow at times, and has issues you probably all know.

I am using ZHA, how would I be able to transfer my devices from the CC2531 to conbee?

Do I need to setup the integration again and pair everything?

tropic depot
crude otter
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yeah, i figured that

violet dagger
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and there's the question again 🤣

crude otter
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i was just used to the sonoff way, where they have an entity

tropic depot
trail gorge
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If there's not one for your device it will take a bit of tinkering

crude otter
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so far, this "Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus" seems pretty good

violet dagger
tropic depot
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😂 I generally stay out of the docs myself

trail gorge
crude otter
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it was cheaper than the ZBBridge that its replacing

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and so far, it seems...more reliable

winged granite
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i am not able to get the sonoff dongle to work. no problem to add it via ZHA but I am not able to add sensors via it

obsidian sandalBOT
primal blade
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What are the options for a power monitoring (US) switch?

spice shoal
mint tinsel
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Hello! I want to unpair my Phillips Hue bulbs from Hue Hub and pair them to HomeAssistant with ZHA. I wanted to ask - will I be able to control power on behavior? Like what happens after it turns on - stays on, off, recovers previous state, etc?

tropic depot
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that is configurable

gilded patrol
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Anyone knows how to edit ZHA group but not GUI? Like yaml or something. The problem is every time I create a group that will be assigned id " 0x0002" one entity still remains in the group but invisible.
Say I create a group with just my two porch lights, then my driveway light will be in that group as well, though I haven't selected or can see it... Strange!

tropic depot
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so that means it is in the group

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just use the UI

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add it to the group

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then remove it

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that should clear it up

gilded patrol
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Can't see it in the UI that's the problem

tropic depot
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wait do you mean it isn't available to add either?

gilded patrol
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I have tried to add the driveway light, and remove it. But it is still there, hidden...

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Just in group id 0x0002 😕

tropic depot
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is it powered on when you do this?

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the other thing you can do... create group 3 before deleting group 2

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then use that

gilded patrol
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Exactly!! I am trying that right now. Let

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Let's se how it will work... I'll get back soon 🙂

tropic depot
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cool, make sure the devices that you are grouping are powered on too 🙂

gilded patrol
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Sure! 👍

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Thanks for your input, I did it like we both thought nearly at the same time, and it WORKS! I now have my driveway lights in group "0x0002" and porch light in another group.

gentle flint
stable dew
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Hi. Is it possible to somehow force a battery powered device to connect to a different router when im using zigbee2mqtt? I just moved a motion sensor from one room to another and it stopped working. Zigbee2mqtt's map shows it's still connected to a power plug in old room which I doubt.

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new room got at least few routers which it should probably connect to

austere patio
stable dew
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nevermind it just switched to a different router

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i guess it just needed some time

strange shuttle
primal blade
obsidian kettle
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For the life of me, I can’t figure out if Tuya’s Zigbee protocol is 100% local, or if it phones home. Anyone know that answer?

dense spindle
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I'm hoping for some guidance. I'm moving away from Hubitat. I can't get any Zigbee devices to pair with HA.

obsidian kettle
dense spindle
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I thought so. I added it as one of the add-ons but it's no longer visible in the list of installed add-ons

obsidian kettle
dense spindle
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I go to configuration -> Devices, scroll all the way to the bottom where I see "Zigbee Coordinator"

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I click on that then click "Add devices via this device"

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Then I press the pairing button on my Zigbee device but nothing happens

obsidian kettle
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You might try putting the device in pairing mode first.

dense spindle
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I've done that also

obsidian kettle
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Well, the only other thing I can suggest is a reboot of HA. That did it for me the one time I couldn’t add a Zigbee device.

dense spindle
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I've rebooted already

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Could it be that the device was previously paired to my Hubitat Zigbee network?

spice shoal
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is zigbee like zwave in the sense that the data is stored on the controller device?

obsidian kettle
dense spindle
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I think I'll have to try that again. Unfortunately the device reset instructions didn't seem to work.

obsidian kettle
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What device?

dense spindle
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It's a Sengled contact sensor

obsidian kettle
dense spindle
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Yep. That did it. Thanks 🙂

spice shoal
obsidian kettle
spice shoal
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I guess I have a relatively easy way to test...moment

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seems like you are correct, but copying zigbee.db does the trick apparently 😄

obsidian kettle
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Ok. Good to know. It’s managed by the ZHA instance.

old moss
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Hey can anyone tell me, did i get a bad stick? I got a conbee II today. when i plug it into the usb port it shows as adding and removing a billion times in supervisor logs.

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and wont detect things

austere patio
old moss
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@austere patio i have tried in on 3 different machines. Including a windows one, a pi4, and a ubuntu box. I have also tried a extension cable. It wont stay connected to the pc

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it just shows connected, then disconnected over and over and over

austere patio
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Are you able to connect to it with deCONZ or something for the brief period it stays connected?

old moss
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yes

austere patio
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Have you tried updating its firmware with deCONZ?

old moss
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it wont stay connected long enuf

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like less than 10 seconds of connectivity

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also ive read not to update with home assistant as it can cause problems?

austere patio
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Hmm, mine didn't have this problem so I'm not sure. I updated it to the latest firmware when I last tested it a few months ago and didn't have issues setting up ZHA with the stick.

old moss
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yeah i cannot get that far.

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it just disconnects from the system and reconnects

austere patio
old moss
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yeah

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cant do that

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as it wont conect long enuf

old moss
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okay, i have that sorted out. But now it just says firmware not connected

golden turtle
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hi everyone

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Has anyone tried this Chinese presence sensor? Can Zigbee version be integrated into HA?

umbral pivot
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Does anyone have luck with Ikea STYRBAR and deCONZ?

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I've managed to add it via Phoscon, but it doesn't fire events when listening to deconz_event

mint tinsel
astral totem
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RECAP: brought a cc2530 + cc2591, flashed successfully as router. Can't join network with zigbee2mqtt after permit join.
I brought a cc2591 packet sniffer. I'm trying to understand if this device is transmitting something or not but apparently is not doing anything. Any suggestionù?

astral totem
spare pond
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does anyone know how to add the ZHA Panel to the dashboard to see the ZHA Visualization ?? without going to configuration. I just added the ZigBee home automation but I would like to view the Visualization for it in a custom card in dashboard ?? anybody know how to do that

tender hedge
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Does anyone know if there is a way for zigbee2mqtt not to crash/stop when the usbAdapter is not available? I'm routing my usbHost through TCP and it might not be available at some point. If that happens i want zb2mqtt to retry. By default my docker container just stops.

tropic depot
fresh ginkgo
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has anyone successfully paired a Tradfiri electrical outlet with ZHA?

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using Conbee II stick

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for the life of me I just can't get it to pair - and I bought it thinking it was going to be a straightforward way to strengthen my mesh.

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trying to pair it literally within 1 foot of the Conbee

jolly narwhal
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Was no issue with TI and z2m almost two years ago for what it is worth

fresh ginkgo
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damn

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what's TI sorry

jolly narwhal
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Texas instruments

tacit steppe
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Is there a way to "heal" a zigbee network like with ZWave? I do not have a lot of a zigbee devices it appears I am maxing out its effective range currently. I have the controller in my server room in the basement. 1 sensor in the basement, a button on the first floor, 2 temp sensors on the second floor and a temp sensor in the attic. The attic sensor fairly consistently becomes unavailable

fresh ginkgo
jolly narwhal
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Did you pair in place @tacit steppe ?

tacit steppe
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but I've since added the two new temp sensors on the second floor

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before yesterday there was nothing else except for the button on the first floor, so I was hoping a "heal" of some sort might assist

jolly narwhal
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Well, that is pretty close

molten linden
jolly narwhal
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Some users pair next to the coordinator and then move it

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That never ends well

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But that just means your mesh isn't good enough, invest in more routers

spice shoal
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What’s the proper way to pair?

jolly narwhal
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In place

tacit steppe
jolly narwhal
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Where the device should live

tacit steppe
jolly narwhal
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Ikea bulbs?

tacit steppe
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i just have a Nortek controller plus my sensors

jolly narwhal
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No routers?

spice shoal
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Sure but doesn’t the device need to be right next to something for pairing?

jolly narwhal
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Ooooof

jolly narwhal
tacit steppe
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i don't use controllable light bulbs, switches are more cost effective in my house

jolly narwhal
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Pair in an outward spiral, routers first, then end devices

spice shoal
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Hmm, so only if it’s the adapter is has to be right next to it?

jolly narwhal
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If you only have the coordinator you are probably gonna have a bad time, unless you live in 4by4 meters

spice shoal
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I had to place the bulb within inches of my adapter for it to pair

jolly narwhal
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What adapter is this?

spice shoal
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Nortek

tacit steppe
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yeah same

jolly narwhal
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Never used it, but sounds horrible

tacit steppe
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its the HubZ

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i only use it for zigbee and then have an Aeotec for zwave

jolly narwhal
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I have devices that are.... 20m from my coordinator

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Living through the mesh

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Through walls and floors

tacit steppe
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whats your primary controller?

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if I need to upgrade that i'll just do that

molten linden
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99.9 % of the time interference is to blame if you can't pair something away from the coordinator

spice shoal
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It can communicate, just seemed for pairing specifically I needed it super close

jolly narwhal
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Electrolama currently, used to be the cc1352

hushed sparrow
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please whats Zigbee response time with HA?

jolly narwhal
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Less than a blink of an eye

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With a proper coordinator and hardware

tacit steppe
gilded patrol
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I have 76 ddeevicees in a mesh, the one that's longest away from coordiinaator approximately 50 meter. They connect through the mesh, CC2652P, ZHA

jolly narwhal
spice shoal
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Ok, should I unpair/delete a device in order to re-pair?

tacit steppe
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...whats z2m?

gilded patrol
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Hate my keyboard, keys stuck whrn typing 😕

jolly narwhal
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Zigbee2mqtt

tacit steppe
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oh noooo

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that was a whole thing when someone said that in the Zwave channel

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i mean in HA

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I just need to plug the stick in right?

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its not like a separate unit

jolly narwhal
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Well, the z2m container needs to see the stick

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But sure

tacit steppe
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that requires its own maintenance

jolly narwhal
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Very little

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I upgrade it once every 3 months

tacit steppe
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I'm sure you are going to also tell me I shouldn't be using the regular zigbee integration aren't you

hushed sparrow
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Electrolama is this like Zigbee? i am sorry I am now here? will Electrolama work with ZigBee?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

hushed sparrow
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ok

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i will go ahead and buy it then

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and use it with Raspberi Pi

spice shoal
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To re pair something should I just delete the device from ha, put the device back in join mode, and hit add device then?

tacit steppe
jolly narwhal
spice shoal
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It also begs the question about using the add device button vs add device via this device

tacit steppe
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i'll grab this electrollama soon, thankfully the one not working controls the HVAC in my office which isn't necessary in the fall

molten linden
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add device opens the whole mesh to pairing

hushed sparrow
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Electrolama is out of stock

spice shoal
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Ah ok

molten linden
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add device via this device opens only that router for joining

hushed sparrow
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is there anywhere i can get some to buy?

spice shoal
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So basically, please choose what’s best vs I know what’s best please use this specific device

jolly narwhal
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First come first serve

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Rather

molten linden
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if creating the mesh, you can permit joins from a specific router closest to a sensor or endpoint. most of the time they will pick the strongest signal but this can help..

jolly narwhal
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I never pair with specific devices

molten linden
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some devices (aqara) pick the first parent they see

jolly narwhal
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But I have... 80+ routers

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And 40+ end devices

molten linden
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vs the strongest

spice shoal
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Does it literally pick the path and that’s the only path it will ever follow?

jolly narwhal
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Some devices yes

spice shoal
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Ikea bulbs for example?

hushed sparrow
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anywhere to get Electrolama to buy?

jolly narwhal
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Wait for it to come in stock or buy one of the other options @hushed sparrow

obsidian sandalBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

Command '.zigbee' was invoked by: atxbyea
molten linden
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with exceptions (aqara who sticks to the first thing they see basically -except in rare occasions apparently)

spice shoal
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Ok, cause I have some funky scenarios that would prove a headache otherwise

fresh ginkgo
spice shoal
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Unless ikea bulbs fall in the ‘don’t update after join’ realm

molten linden
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they should be decent. I have a few and don't have any issues with them

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plus they are routers so they connect to multiple other points in the mesh

jolly narwhal
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I haven't had a single issue with Ikea bulbs

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And I have had 60+ of them for three years

spice shoal
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I’m on day 2 and one of them is off the rails

jolly narwhal
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I even run them outside in -30c - +30c

molten linden
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https://imgur.com/a/1HS9Qic things with a single line are end devices with one point of connection to the mesh, everything else are routers with multiple connections

spice shoal
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All of them are within 15-20 feet of each other

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Well if it should figure it out I’m not going to bother removing and rejoining them

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(Except maybe my motions)

jolly narwhal
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Pair in place

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Pair routers first

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Then end devices

spice shoal
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If the bulbs should figure it out over time why repair?

fresh ginkgo
jolly narwhal
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It takes 1 minute

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At worst

spice shoal
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Fair enough

jolly narwhal
fresh ginkgo
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daft question alert - what does pair in place mean?

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pair in the location where you are looking to deploy?

spice shoal
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Yeah

fresh ginkgo
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cool

spice shoal
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Speaking of motions, mine go to unknown state after the allotted time window, but my automations are expecting off -> on (the built-in blueprint for light on when motion)

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Unknown -> on breaks…any tips for handling this?

jolly narwhal
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Unknow sounds... Funky

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What sensors are they?

spice shoal
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Ikea motions

jolly narwhal
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Ah

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I threw those in the bin

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They were fun for 5 days, then I ordered Xiaomi

spice shoal
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It’s just hitting the battery device timeout in zha

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How would xiaomi help that?

jolly narwhal
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No idea, that doesn't exist in Z2m

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They go to off and stay there

hushed sparrow
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i just checked Aliexpress, zzh usb stick is only supported on PC, not raspberi pi

spice shoal
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Ok, maybe I can set it to 0?

jolly narwhal
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But a raspberry pi is a computer

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Albeit a shitty one

hushed sparrow
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hahaha

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this is what i found on Aliexpress

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CC2540, CC2531

jolly narwhal
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Don't buy that

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25xx is rubbish

fresh ginkgo
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I wonder if I have to re-pair my Xiaomi Aqara sensors now?

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or should they just pick up the new router

molten linden
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they are known to be pretty sticky to what they pair with originally

fresh ginkgo
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yeah

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I think it's confirmed that they play nicely with Tradfri plugs

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I'm using ZigZag to try and get a visual representation of my mesh - but I don't really have many lines

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all i can see is nodes.

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any idea?

austere patio
austere patio
tropic schooner
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Anybody pick up the Sonoff USB Zigbee 3.0 stick recently?

lilac wharf
tropic schooner
tropic schooner
lilac wharf
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No issues, but I'm running zigbee2mqtt

tropic schooner
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I'm considering switching to that from ZHA. Realistically, is setting that up (+ mosquitto) difficult, or just a few easy steps? Worth it?

hushed sparrow
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please what is zigbee2mqtt?

tacit steppe
lilac wharf
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Most mains-powered zigbee devices act as routers

lilac wharf
fresh ginkgo
hushed sparrow
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please which of them is better? CC2652R, CC2652P, CC2652RB or CC1352P

lilac wharf
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They're all essentially the same, but the ones ending in P have a built-in power amplifier that lets you configure TX power up to 20 dBm

hushed sparrow
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ok

tropic schooner
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I wonder why my Aqara switches are shown in my ZHA mesh but don't do anything now. They worked when I first set up this Sonoff usb stick...

hushed sparrow
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so i only need raspberi pi and the Zigbee cordinator alone to run the HA? any other hardware needed?

lilac wharf
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It doesn't need to be a raspberry pi, but yes, that is one option for running HA

jolly narwhal
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And any other protocol you want to speak

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You need corresponding hardware

lilac wharf
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25 MHz

hushed sparrow
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perfect

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i really appreciate the explanations 🙂

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so i would say ZigBee is the mostly used protocol right?

lilac wharf
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It's popular

hushed sparrow
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ok

tropic schooner
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I have 3 IKEA Signal Repeaters, and a rather tiny apartment, so you would think Aqara endpoint devices would play nicely with the established mesh. I wonder if I need to add some Tradfri outlet mains to it, or if Aqara just doesn't want to play nicely with anything non-Aqara.

hushed sparrow
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please whats the difference between the coordinator and the Router?

lilac wharf
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Coordinator == your zigbee stick, bridge, etc. which forms the zigbee network
Router == any zigbee device that acts as a signal repeater on the network (most mains-powered zigbee devices such as a smart plug, light, etc.)

hushed sparrow
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oh ok 🙂

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thanks

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i live in a very small apartment so i guess i will only need the coordinator for now

tropic schooner
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I suppose my questions are better suited for the hardware channel, since this seems to be Zigbee 101.

austere patio
# tropic schooner I have 3 IKEA Signal Repeaters, and a rather tiny apartment, so you would think ...

Aqara devices don't pick parents properly so even if you have a bunch of routers, they could be joining to the coordinator directly. Aqara devices also sometimes ship with very drained batteries, despite what the battery percentage indicator shows. I suggest you re-join your Aqara devices to their physically closest parent router by selectively permitting joins (there's a button in the router's device page) and reset the Aqara device.

tropic schooner
fresh ginkgo
fresh ginkgo
tropic schooner
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In ZHA, you open a signal repeater's device page and choose "Add Devices Via This Device"

fresh ginkgo
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ah okay fair enough

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thank you

tropic schooner
fresh ginkgo
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mines show no lines for any of my sensors.

tropic schooner
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I just re-added a few of the farther away Aqara devices to their closest signal repeaters, and it looks like everything is connected, but I'm sure that after a few hours, almost all of them will drop off the network.

tropic schooner
fresh ginkgo
tropic schooner
fresh ginkgo
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even when I use "ZigZag" add-on - I get the same.

tropic schooner
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Yikes. That ain't right.

fresh ginkgo
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funny thing is - all the devices work 😄

tropic schooner
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I think I just need a few more decent repeating devices. These signal repeaters that came with the Fytur shades seem pretty useless.

fresh ginkgo
austere patio
mighty river
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Hi there, I am using HA with ZHA and already created some automations to make a zha service call for setting zigbee cluster attributes directly for some features, that are not available via entities in HA. or creating entities manually, which are polling specific zigbee cluster attributes ?

jolly narwhal
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Haven't had a need for an aqara to change parents, none of my powered devices are ever offline and only one has died the last 3 years

austere patio
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My Aqara sensors survive 48 hour power outages without any issues. Only time anything ever "disconnects" from the mesh is when the battery gets low.

jolly narwhal
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I probably will need to change some batteries soon, I have only changed 3 batteries in 2.5 years

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Or maybe four

austere patio
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Surprisingly the modded motion sensors have worked for over two years now with the same batteries. I'm surprised changing the trigger period from 60s to 5s didn't shorten battery life proportionally.

jolly narwhal
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Yes

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I notice no difference either

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And I sit A LOT in my office

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In front of one sensor

lilac wharf
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I like the gen 3 iris motion sensors...big battery

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And 30 sec cooldown

tropic schooner
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I just switched from pairing everything Zigbee to my Hubitat (which had no issues and was rock solid), shared to HA, to this new Sonoff 3.0 stick. So I’m assuming the root problem is the new coordinator.

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Luckily it was only $10 plus s/h, but I sold my Hubitat in the process, so I guess it’s time for a new coordinator. Or to flash this damn thing.

lilac wharf
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I doubt it's the coordinator

austere patio
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Unless the coordinator's RF circuitry is broken (like Sonoff's last attempt at one), devices falling off the mesh is usually something else

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Try changing the batteries. A pack of coin cells is cheap.

tropic schooner
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I will try that next. These devices are only a few months old, but who knows. The Sonoff is on an extension USB a meter from my RPi 3B+, and about 5 feet from my router (I know, I know).

lilac wharf
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Well, being close to the router isn't potentially an issue unless it's also an AP sunglossus

mighty river
austere patio
mighty river
# austere patio What are you trying to do?

my danfoss Thermostat has an attribute for reading it's current window open state. Also there is an attribute for changing the orientation. Since I am having multiple thermostats, for debugging reasons and easier accessability, I would like to "wrap" them in their own entities instead of manually going to the cluster attributes of each single device and select it there

mighty river
mighty river
tropic schooner
lilac wharf
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Oh I was just being pedantic 😄

final pivot
dark birch
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anybody know if all cluster data is sent for a device at the same time? i have a aqara cube, and the rotate left/right seem to be on a analog cluster, while the side of the device is on a MultiXX cluster. Would be nice if the side of the device could be included in the event for rotation

winged granite
worldly plinth
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Is there a secret to adopt zigbee devices that have already been paired to a coordinator with a new one? I had an older coordinator die but I can't get the sensors to pair with the new one.

lilac wharf
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Nothing special; just put the device in pairing mode and enable joins with whatever zigbee software you're using @worldly plinth

worldly plinth
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Yea I didn't think so but none of them are pairing

lilac wharf
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What devices?

worldly plinth
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sonoff snzb-02

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they've all been paired before but they don't seem to pair with something new

austere patio
winged granite
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Integrations -> ZHA, Configure -> Add new device

austere patio
#

Is this the new Sonoff stick? What device are you trying to join to the network?

winged granite
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Aqara window Sensor, Sonoff Temperature Sensor, some Ikea Stuff

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Yes, the new Sonoff Stick

austere patio
spice shoal
waxen pine
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Hey all, anyone with a ConBee II connected through zigbee2mqtt? I've been banging my head for hours and can't get it working. I'm starting to think the stick is broken. How can I be sure it's not?

lilac wharf
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What issues are you having?

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It is experimental in z2m, but I know there are people who have it working

waxen pine
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It can't connect, tried with port /dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2258199-if00 and /dev/ttyAMA0

lilac wharf
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Do you have adapter: deconz nested under serial: in your config?

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.share any errors too

obsidian sandalBOT
waxen pine
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*updated the codepile with the full error message

lilac wharf
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Are you running it on Docker @waxen pine ?

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If so, make sure the device is exposed to the container

waxen pine
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What do you mean?

lilac wharf
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You need to pass the device through to the container unless you're running it in privileged mode

waxen pine
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I'm using a pi4 with HassOS with the ConBee connected directly to USB3 port

lilac wharf
waxen pine
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ok, thanks for the help 🙂

worldly plinth
tacit steppe
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does anyone have Ecobee thermostats here? I am running an average of the ecobee temp plus 2 zigbee temp sensors and trying to figure out a way if I can use that number to run my thermostat off of

tropic depot
lilac wharf
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I didn't even notice that...I saw hassOS and said yeet lol

waxen pine
waxen pine
austere patio
waxen pine
austere patio
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I mean to HA. It should show up in the list of serial ports, even if it's not running the latest firmware.

waxen pine
#

Even with the last firmware doesn't show up in HA. How can I solve this?

austere patio
#

What hardware are you using? Virtual machine? Docker?

waxen pine
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HassOS on a PI

austere patio
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Have you tried restarting? Does your USB extension cable pass through data?

waxen pine
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Tried restarting, I used the cable to update the firmware on PC, but I can try another one

austere patio
#

Somehow the serial port isn't being mapped. I'd log into the Home Assistant OS host and look through the logs, you may be able to narrow it down from there

waxen pine
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Will do, thanks

steel osprey
#

Any recommendations for exterior recessed can lights that are smart and color selectable that would be compatible with home assistant?

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4in

waxen pine
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when I plug/unplug doesn't seem to register in log

austere patio
waxen pine
austere patio
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That one is the built in serial port on the pi, it should still be there when the Conbee is unplugged

#

Are you able to SSH into the host OS? What does dmesg show?

waxen pine
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Sorry, can you clarify? Not an expert 😅

austere patio
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Hmm. I don't use the OS myself so I'm sure there's some OS-specific command you can run to view hardware info but if you install the SSH and web terminal addon (https://github.com/hassio-addons/addon-ssh/blob/main/ssh/DOCS.md), you can SSH into your Pi and then run dmesg -w to see what happens when you plug in the Conbee.

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If you can't see the Conbee at all from within Home Assistant even after a reboot (yet the Conbee is functional on Windows), this is a lower level problem and isn't #zigbee-archived yet. You might get better help with this in one of the other channels dealing with the OS.

waxen pine
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What am I supposed to see with the dmesg? It gives-me hundreds of lines

austere patio
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Run dmesg -w, it'll keep running. When you plug in or unplug the Conbee, it should generate more lines.

waxen pine
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Unrecognised option w

spice shoal
steel osprey
waxen pine
austere patio
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Ah, busybox. Maybe try dmesg -c to clear the log and then run dmesg a bunch of times to see what changes when you plug in the Conbee?

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Here's what I see when I plug it in (different kernel version and not a pi so yours may differ): https://dpaste.org/TS3G

spice shoal
# steel osprey Damn alright

Doesn’t mean there aren’t others, I’m just not aware of anything remotely mainstream other than those. I was hoping ikea would have something but alas 😦

steel osprey
spice shoal
#

I think there are some wifi things floating around

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Maybe shelly and your local hardware store

waxen pine
austere patio
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Does that USB port work? You should be seeing at least some output.

waxen pine
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I connected a screen to the raspberry and it's showing error messages

austere patio
#

Which pi is this? Can you try a different (non-3.0) USB port?

waxen pine
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4B

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I had it connected to a USB2, have tried all 4 ports

austere patio
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This seems like a hardware or firmware problem to me, I'm afraid I don't have enough experience with the pi to give you much assistance there. I'd start by verifying if the USB port is at all functional by using a known-working device, like a USB flash drive.

waxen pine
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Can I access a USB drive from HassOS?

austere patio
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I don't have much experience with the OS beyond dropping into a root shell and doing normal Linux stuff. You should see successful kernel log entries with dmesg though.

waxen pine
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I'll try again tomorow, it's almost morning and I have to work tomorrow 😆 thank you so much for all your help!

waxen pine
#

Ok, now I feel stupid... Did a PI reboot instead of just hass and it recognized the Conbee immediately...

jovial aspen
#

time for some self-punishment, delving into the world of zigbee once more

jolly narwhal
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ZigBee is easy

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If you do it right

jovial aspen
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in my experience it involves a lot of time up ladders reconnecting devices that have lost sync

jolly narwhal
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I haven't reconnected a device in years

jovial aspen
#

must be nice

#

i've got my slaesh coordinator plugged in, two CC2531 routers connected (after 3 reboots)

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a third CC2531 router that refuses to connect

jolly narwhal
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With external antennas?

jovial aspen
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one has an external antenna, the other doesn't

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ironically it was the one without that connected with the least fuss

jolly narwhal
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Then they are pretty useless

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In my experience

jovial aspen
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oh yeah CC2531's aren't worth the silicon and copper they're made from

jolly narwhal
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As routers they are fine

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With antennas

jovial aspen
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but someone here convinced me i'm better off with them than without

jolly narwhal
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I use one, just to reach my greenhouse

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Bulbs make a lot more sense

jovial aspen
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my house isn't huge, only 12m x 10m over two levels

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100% timber construction

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and my coordinator is pretty much bang in the middle

jolly narwhal
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Mine is 18 X 10 over three floors, plus garden

jovial aspen
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i've put routers in opposite corners

jolly narwhal
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Paired in place? And hopefully some in between too

jovial aspen
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yep paired in place

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they would be less than 5m from the coordinator

jolly narwhal
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I have 80 or so bulbs around the house, none more than 2m from another

jovial aspen
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i'm yet to switch my hue bulbs across

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i'm gunshy from my last foray into zigbee

jolly narwhal
#

That creates interference then

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Multiple mesh has no upsides

jovial aspen
#

so hue bulbs are routers yeh?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

jovial aspen
#

then i've got like another 15 routers to connect

jolly narwhal
#

🏓

jovial aspen
#

before i go mucking about with any end devices

jolly narwhal
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Yes

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Routers first

jovial aspen
#

i'd love to ditch my hue hub

jolly narwhal
#

Then end devices

jovial aspen
#

if this goes sideways i have a whole week of rollback to look forward to

#

is factory resetting hue bulbs a hassle?

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i don't have a hue dimmer switch or lutron bulb remote

jolly narwhal
#

Since they are connected to the hub

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Just reset it in the app

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Then it is ready for pairing

jovial aspen
#

so just delete it from the app?

jolly narwhal
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Yes

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That resets the pairing

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If memory serves right

jovial aspen
#

🤞

jolly narwhal
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Then put your other system in pairing

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And turn the light off and on

jovial aspen
#

Here we go

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booyah

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one down 14 to go

jolly narwhal
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🦴 🇷

spiral locust
#

Aqara + Wolfblitz smart plugs ... I'm pulling my hair out, soon 😦

So, I have a couple of Wolfblitz Smart plugs, which work decently.

However, when I pair a new Aqara Opple switch 3 bands it pairs itself too the Wolfblitz Smart plugs as well as Home Assistant.

Meaning, whenever I push button1 and button2 on the switch I turn on/off all the smartplugs.

Does anyone else experience this - and is there a setting someplace, where I might tell the Aqara switch to unbind/unpair itself from the smart plugs

jovial aspen
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That mostly worked. Only one bulb isn’t cooperating.

jolly narwhal
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🏓

jovial aspen
#

tomorrow, all the aqara end devices...

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i got the last bulb working eventually

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i now have a beautiful mesh

olive valve
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Logger: homeassistant.components.websocket_api.http.connection
Source: components/websocket_api/connection.py:89
Integration: Home Assistant WebSocket API (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 10:24:08 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 10:24:08 PM

[548035491584] Received invalid command: zha/configuration

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i keep getting this error

jolly narwhal
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Says preflashed, but who knows

#

Also, how are you passing it to HA ? How is HA running ?

olive valve
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HA is running on an RPi. The zigbee dongle is plugged in by USB

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I get failed to connect when I try to add it with the ZHA integration.

jolly narwhal
#

well.... how are you running ha ? Bare metal ? Container ? Home assistant OS ? Supervised ?

olive valve
#

I've tried with two different zigbee dongles, same result

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oh yeah sorry, supervised

jolly narwhal
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then you are a linux \ docker expert I guess

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so you should figure it out

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😉

olive valve
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oops

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HA on the bare metal

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sorry

#

I've only just installed it 😁

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I do plan to containerize it though once I figure out how all works

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along with zigbee2mqtt and other stuff

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I'll play with this again tomorrow

jolly narwhal
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you installed via pip ?

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then I hope you are a linux expert at least 😄

olive valve
#

nah, just downloaded the RPi image

jolly narwhal
olive valve
#

correct

jolly narwhal
#

then I have no idea, don't touch that with a five foot pole, but the people in that channel can probably help you see if the stick is avaliable

olive valve
#

How do you run HA?

jolly narwhal
olive valve
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containers are the way to go

jolly narwhal
#

yes

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containers you have control of

olive valve
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I haven't used HA before so i just dl'd the image to get started and have a play

jolly narwhal
#

probably a good starting point for people who have no technical knowledge, if they remember to backup, which very few do

olive valve
#

how to manage ur config data with the container version?

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where does it get stored? I guess you specify when you start the container right?

violet dagger
#

yes, its stored where you tell it to

jolly narwhal
#

everything is controlled by you using the container install

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both what to run, how to run it and where to store it

tender hedge
#

Hey, me again 😆 Might anyone help me to find some documentation on how to handle actions in zigbee2mqtt and how that translates into home assistant? I'm absolutely new to zigbee and still miss the concept i guess.

jolly narwhal
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It's quite well documented in the zigbee2mqtt documentation

tender hedge
#

nice ok thanks, i was missing that. so all actions are automatically forwarded to mqtt. no need of doing some binding things in the web ui, i guess. Is there somewhere a list to find which actions can be fired or would i have to try or read in the individual hardware docs?

jolly narwhal
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I just pair

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and create automations in yaml

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done

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or, I rename them in zigbee2mqtt either via yaml or ui

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then create automation

tender hedge
#

how do you know which type to listen for or do you just test it?

jolly narwhal
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I often just copy paste what I have done in the past

tender hedge
#

also, i renamed my devices in zb2mqtt with spaces and Upper/lowercase. Is this considered bad practise as i saw the friendly name is also used for mqtt topics?

jolly narwhal
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Example of what I do on line 46

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that is via mqtt

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while on line 73 I use a z2m motion sensor via the HA device itself

tender hedge
#

ok thanks for those

stable dew
lilac wharf
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the map isn't always accurate

stable dew
#

oh well

gloomy pivot
#

I would guess it's alluding to z2m, but also that it doesn't have it out of the box

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so maybe the chip is supported?

sour shadow
#

Keyword stuffing?

violet dagger
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It's a bankable keyword now and people fall for it

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Like them putting wireless on an IR device

gloomy pivot
#

right, that's kinda what I thought

jolly narwhal
austere patio
#

Only 2? What about Zigbee3MQTT?

lilac wharf
jolly narwhal
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🥱

warm totem
#

Hi everyone,

I have like 10 Ikea white spectrum spots in my house. I want to connect them with the ZHA integration, however, this doesn't work. When I put the lights in pairing mode I cant find them.

Usinge a Conbee II stick. All other zigbee devices work fine. What to do?

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GU10 spots *

spice shoal
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I've got a bunch of identical ikea bulbs and the last 2 I joined have the wrong 'supported_features' (detected as color bulbs when they are not)...what's the best way to go about correcting that?

jolly narwhal
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Are you sure you are resetting them correctly?

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If you reset it 7 times they blink but don't connect

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It has to be 6 times

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I got confused by that too

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No issues with z2m and electrolama at least, added a bulb a few weeks ago last

warm totem
#

Oke, so it's 6 times on-off ?

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I mean 6 times off-on 🙂

warm totem
#

Thanks! Works perfect 🙂

raven chasm
#

when setting up my Zigbee automation is this what I should be seeing in the GUI/dev/ttyS0 - ttyS0, s/n: n/a the does not appear to be any reference to USB of any sort. I am using the
HUSBZ-1 Z-Wave/Zigbee stick on a NAS.

spice shoal
#

what's the nas?

raven chasm
#

synology. Yea I was expecting something with USB in the name.

spice shoal
#

yeah, synology runs a pretty custom/stripped kernel I think

#

see anything in dmesg after plugging it in?

raven chasm
#

I am able to see the device in my VM. It shows up when I go to select the radio in the integration, but then say it failed to connect.

#

dmesg?

spice shoal
#

oh you're doing usb passthrough of the device to a vm?

raven chasm
#

yep

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I was expecting this/dev/ttyUSB0

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for my path

spice shoal
#

yeah I would as well

jovial aspen
tulip tartan
#

@hushed sparrow the Electrolama zzh is restocked on Tindie

spice shoal
#

if I enable ota updates in zha how will I know if/when updates will occur?

molten linden
jovial aspen
#

what do the different coloured lines mean in ZHA's mesh visualisation?

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i assume green = good

austere patio
lilac wharf
#

Yeah LQI is a horribly inconsistent metric in my experience

jovial aspen
#

do the sonoff PIR sensors chew through batteries?

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the SNZB-03's

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or just shite?

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i have one that's reading 0%, one unknown and only one reading correctly (i assume) at 54%

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i have a fourth that won't connect at all

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all less than 6 months old with fresh batteries installed at the time of purchase

lilac wharf
#

They're kind of trash tbh

smoky hornet
#

I'm here

lilac wharf
#

so, for one, most of the CC2652-based sticks have external antennas, which is nice

smoky hornet
#

ha, I just ordered three of those snzb-03s yesterday

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I should have waited long enough to read that message

lilac wharf
#

second, you can use it with ZHA or zigbee2mqtt (i prefer z2m, but it's really personal preference)

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and there are serial-over-ethernet zigbee CC2652 coordinators you can get if that works better with your setup

smoky hornet
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Oh that's cool

lilac wharf
#

yeah. just gives you more options really

smoky hornet
lilac wharf
#

that's the wi-fi version

smoky hornet
#

Ohhh got it

lilac wharf
#

unfortunately they don't make a zigbee model with energy monitoring

smoky hornet
#

Any specific CC2652 device?

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I see a few on aliexpress

lilac wharf
#

i take it you're in the US based on the amazon link you sent earlier?

smoky hornet
#

I am

lilac wharf
#

$19 shipped

jovial aspen
#

i picked one of these up yesterday

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as a backup

echo sentinel
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i'm decent with python, just not so sure on how i'd get a quirk going :) It is supported under z2m so in that sense I suppose it is known how it acts

jolly narwhal
#

In z2m if there is a similar device it is just copy paste and edit

echo sentinel
jolly narwhal
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If it already exists it should work fine with z2m

echo sentinel
#

sorry, i should have been more clear. I use ZHA

jolly narwhal
#

Ah, then I do not know, I don't touch that

echo sentinel
#

ah ok.

tender hedge
#

👋 I'm using a Ubisys S2. By Default the endpoints of the control switch are bound to the on/off outputs which works nicely. I don't want direct control but rather start an automation with my control switch. So i unbound this input. But i'm still missing mqtt action messages when clicking the switch. Any ideas what i might be missing? Other devices that support actions fire mqtt messages w/o problems.

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Side note: no connection issues. I still can toggle the exposed outputs

lilac wharf
scarlet bramble
tender hedge
#

Also just the default ones.

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@scarlet bramble do i need to add some reporting?

scarlet bramble
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@tender hedge Hm, can't see from that image but do you have the same settings for endpoint 2 as for endpoint 1?

tender hedge
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These are all settings that are set: https://imgur.com/cCHAgCF Endpoint 1,2 is the relay, while 3,4 is the switch that i'm looking for

scarlet bramble
#

But guess you need to fill in those endpoints you are using and set cluster OnOff, attribute OnOff.

tender hedge
#

in reporting?

scarlet bramble
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Guess so.

tender hedge
#

i'll give it a shot

scarlet bramble
#

I have two ubisys s2 and I have reporting settings for both endpoint 1 and 2.

tender hedge
#

endpoint 1 and 2 are the relays. i want the switches to broadcast

scarlet bramble
#

Hm. Okey.

tender hedge
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hm, so reporting endpoint: 3, cluster: onoff, attribute: onoff doesn't work

scarlet bramble
#

I have reporting from endpoint 1 and 2.

tender hedge
#

but you also toggle relays with your switch inputs directly, right?

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because this one gets set as soon as i add this direct toggle binding

scarlet bramble
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One of my switches are bound to a wall plug. And the other to the relay.

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And are your endpoints bound to the coordinator?