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gilded bridge
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@hardy crane it looks like the add-on installed correctly. Then I Authenticate the app according to instructions (And it gives you 60 second to authenticate).

  • I go to conf-->integrations add deConz integration.
    I still need to fill in "host" none the less. I've tried the IP address shown in the deConz config panel, but I only get the eroor "Couldn't get an API key" ... any advice?
tiny timber
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Does z2m expose devices cleanly like ZHA does? Or just unassociated individual entities?

tribal rose
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Just plugged in and configured 4 Sengled BR30 bulbs. 2 devices look normal, 2 devices have "unk_model by unk_manufacturer"

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however read device signature shows this "manufacturer": "sengled", "model": "E12-N1E", "class": "zigpy.device.Device"

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The problem is the entities aren't created for them, how do I resolve that?

mellow geode
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Delete the device in Home Assistant and re-pair them

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Which coordinator are you using

tribal rose
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That's pretty brute force

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I'm sorry for not knowing what a coordinator is

mellow geode
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uh, just the Zigbee stick

tribal rose
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silicon labs ezsp

mellow geode
# tribal rose That's pretty brute force

Sometimes, some devices don't correctly interview. It's possible that some messages were lost
Re-pairing would also re-interview the device. So it'll probably help.
If it doesn't, try moving the device you're trying to pair closer to your Zigbee stick or a Zigbee router (routers are most mains-powered devices -- except Sengled bulbs)

mellow geode
tribal rose
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sec

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Nortek

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Combo

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On the z-wave side of things I can re-interview, is there anything like that with zigbee?

mellow geode
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HUSBZB-1?

tribal rose
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Yes that's the one, sorry I couldn't recall

mellow geode
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I'm not sure if that also updates the manufacturer and model fields though.

tribal rose
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yeah factory resetting is a pita, they're way up in a ceiling along with 7 others

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7 others that I don't want to reset

mellow geode
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Mhm, there's also a "Reconfigure device" button in the settings of the "Sengled device". That reconfigures attribute reporting -- don't think it'll re-read manufacturer/model though.

tribal rose
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hmm

mellow geode
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Also, did you just try to restart Home Assistant?

tribal rose
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i'm doing that now

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just though tthe same thing

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Well, that was odd

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i started with just a soft restart of HA

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That fixed one of them completely, including both entities. The other one picked up make and model and 1 of the 2 entities

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Then I did a restart of core

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That cleaned up the remaining device

mellow geode
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Nice! Not sure why it failed in the first place then.

tribal rose
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Yeah, I don't know but I guess I won't anger the zigbee gods by not appreciating what I got so. It's good now

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Thank you for your time.

mellow geode
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If there are any other issues with the bulb (for example, not correctly reporting brightness in Home Assistant), you can try the "Reconfigure device" option in the panel where the "Show signature" button is.

tribal rose
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And teaching me what a coordinator is lol

mellow geode
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haha

tribal rose
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One more question if I could. I have some other bulbs, I got the wrong ones I think as they're sengled wifi and not zigbee. I think technically wifi can work locally over mqtt, but depends on the device if it's possible to get that working. Where would I ask about that?

mellow geode
tribal rose
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Yeah I figure it probably doesn't

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thanks again

austere patio
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That's really odd, your device shouldn't have been added if the model or manufacturer name weren't queried correctly. Are you using an old HA installation or something?

mellow geode
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A friend of mine had the same issue with an Elelabs ELU013 recently with 2021.7.x or 2021.8.x. He removed the "broken device", re-paired it and it worked fine.

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Just re-pairing (without removing) or restarting Home Assistant wasn't tried.

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Restarting Home Assistant might have also worked in this case, as I think only the model/manufacturer seen in the device panel were broken.
Signature had the proper model/manufacturer IIRC

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ah, I think I have debug logs from the failed pair + zigbee.db somewhere

austere patio
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Hmmmm. It seems like a HA restart fixes it. I'll have to see what needs to happen for the model info to be out of sync between the signature and the device page...

mellow geode
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Sent you the pairing logs + zigbee.db via DM. I just looked at the logs and it seems like the "failing" device is paired twice. On the first pair, it doesn't read manufacturer/model correctly. On the second pair, it succeeds but still ends up writing unk_manufacturer/unk_model to the (Home Assistant) registry.

tribal rose
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If there's something useful I can extract that someone would want to see I'm happy to help. I don't know much but I can follow direction

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As far as I can tell all the various functions of the entities are working fine now.

hearty night
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any idea how I might troubleshoot ZHA not picking up some new sengled zigbee lights I just setup? I flipped them on/off a few times to put them in pairing mode

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nm I got it

gentle flint
mellow geode
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puddly mentioned one interesting line: [zigpy.application] Device is initialized <Device model=None manuf=None nwk=0x45CA ieee=14:b4:57:ff:fe:91:b3:6b is_initialized=False>

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if you want, I can also send you the debug logs (+ zigbee.db)

grand reef
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Really? I'm upgrading from a CC2531, I thought the Sonoff Bridge was decent. All my research suggested so. That's dissapointing.

obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '~pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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The bridge has a built in interference generator... epic design option

hardy crane
gilded bridge
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Yes I did! The trick was not to use the deConz integration at all - it’s apparently buggy. And instead use the Zigbee integration.

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Next up trying to get some Tuya smart dimmers and switches working 😅

violet dagger
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good luck

ashen field
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I seem to have trouble pairing devices on deconz using a conbee2. I put everything in pairing mode, but deconz/phoscon never finds anything. Tried two different switches which are supposed to be supported, and none worked. I have no ports configured in the deconz add-on (running in HAOS) and only use ingres. When I open the DEV console of the browser, I can see that a specific XHR request seems to fail with a 500 error and I think it might be related to my issue. Anybody has any idea what the root cause could be?

gilded bridge
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Did you try the ZHA or the zigbee2mqtt integrations? The ZHA did it for me. Super easy

ashen field
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no, haven't tried those yet. Can have a look

quartz flume
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If this is in help for anybody, i solved this.

Fresh formated the SD Card and went straight to zigbee2mqtt, worked, then put a 5 day old BKP of my HAOS, and added the Z2M worked.

Idk what was the problem, but this fixed.

fiery arch
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Hi, Please explain what is binding in Zigbee and how is it used in ZHA? I couldnt understand much from the documentations

tropic depot
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Binding is connecting 2 devices directly

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or a device to a group directly

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at least in the context of the ZHA UI

fiery arch
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Will any of the features be affected in ZHA if binding doesn't work or is not implemented?

gentle flint
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No, but some devices (hello tuya) and xiaomi wall switches do not support binding at all, and for those you have to use ha automations

tribal rose
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i have mains powered sengled bulbs that show as "enddevice", any way for them to operate as type router?

sour shadow
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No

lime locust
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does upgrading mosquitto 1.6 to 2.0 have any benefits ?

violet dagger
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If you read what breaking changes it introduces

lime locust
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yup got listener 1883 setup

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hmm container need -p 9001 exposed ?

sage plume
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Hmm, anyone any idea howt o resolve a issue where HA doesnt seem to eb reading the state of just 1 sensor from Deconz? (Deconz is working fine, but HA never seems to update the state of the sensor)

quartz flume
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Hey, so i have this button/sensor with is in Z2M and when i use the click it appears several times in the logs as triggering the same automations.
This happens for as long as 5 seconds. Any ideia why ?

ashen field
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just tested to pair a Gira 242203 via ZHA, no success. Also didn't work with dconz. Anybody any idea or was able to pair this wall switch?

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or let's better say, a friend tried it

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ok, I hope my friend gave me the wrong Gira number, because that one is enOcean, so it can't work with zigbee 🙂, can it?

ashen field
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sorry, I'm new to Zigbee. So EnOcean is basically ZGP, so it is Zigbee or at least compatible, but ZHA does not yet support ZHA

strange sequoia
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heya everyone, bought a zemismart 6 scene remote today (zigbee) model zm-rm02 and cant for the life of me get it to work or find much info about it online, got the 4 scene one working the other day (using zha with conbee2 dongle) and tried to copy n modify the quirks file but wont show up any conditions in the automations other than device offline, anyone have any links or tips on what i need for this one?

hushed elbow
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Has anyone seen this error before? My zigbee devices are showing up as Unavailable and it's not the first time. This error occurred about 2 hours before the devices are showing as Unavailable:

2021-09-10 13:45:57 ERROR (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.uart] Lost serial connection: device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)
2021-09-10 13:45:57 WARNING (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] Serial '/dev/conbee' connection lost unexpectedly: device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)

That error is showing up frequently, there's also ones at 12:45, 11:45, 10:45...

austere patio
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That error is saying that the conbee serial port is broken. dmesg might show it disconnecting and reconnecting.

tribal rose
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Anybody know of zigbee bulbs that are routers and are also solid quality? I have a bunch of sylvania, they are routers but die quickly. I recently got sengled but they're "enddevice". I have almost all zigbee lights in my house, and some are too far away to just communicate directly with the stick.

austere patio
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Routers don't need to directly communicate with the stick, they can send/relay packets via one another to the coordinator and vice versa

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IKEA bulbs work fine for me but I do lose about one bulb a year. All of the ones that fail are in enclosed fixtures.

tribal rose
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Yeah that's why I'm looking for router bulbs. I know all my sylvania ones are going to die shortly, if I replace them all with sengled some won't be able to communicate.

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I need to have some routers in the mix.

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attrition on the sylvania bulbs has been 10% in 2 months.

hushed elbow
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Hmmm yeah dmesg on the host shows the device reconnecting 🤔

ashen field
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does anybody know if the Gira/JUNG eNet standard is compatible to Zigbee? Both have a nice handheld remote, which a couple years back have been ZigBee remotes and are now sold as eNet remotes. I tried to google it, but haven't found any hint in that direction. Maybe someone in here knows by chance?

lime locust
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i forcefully removed an aqara lux sensor from zg2mqtt , but now it wont re-pair even though permit join is on (the sensor wasnt updating its lux anymore , thus the removal) any ideas ?

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did update my mqtt broker to 2.0 and mqtt protocol to 5 in zg2mqtt

dry fossil
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Time for standard troubleshooting. ire up MQTT Explorer, see what messages are sent when you try pairing.

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Also, check the Z2M logs.

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Assuming you meant Z2M and not some weird new integration called zg2mqtt

lime locust
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Mqtt explorer started , no messages sent , z2m logs doesnt show interview starting

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removed battery to be sure

dry fossil
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Then your device isn't doing anything.

lime locust
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led is blinking 3x

lime locust
dry fossil
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Nothing in logs = nothing received by coordinator = not problem with your coordinator.

lime locust
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ok device busted probably

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damnit

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force remove and then re-pair is possible right , no hikkups on z2m ?

main condor
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How do i fix this error Failed to check if update available for 'Remote' (Device didn't respond to OTA request)

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the remote is a ikea shortcut button.

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ive added the following to advance on z2m

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ikea_ota_use_test_url: true

dry fossil
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Sounds like the device wasn't 'awake' when you tried. Buttons sleep when they're not in use.

main condor
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its the same with ex. sonoff temp and other devices..

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or a light bulb LED1836G9 pluged to main.

dry fossil
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No idea. Maybe they don't allow OTA firmware updates.

silver wing
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Hi all, I'm trying to figure out the best way to automate many zigbee lights at the same time. I tried grouping lights into many zigbee groups (one for each room) but when creating an automation, all of the zigbee group entities are attached to a single device so I have to set all of their states even ones I don't care about. I tried just creating a single group with all of the. lights I want to automate but this still runs into the issue above. Is there a way to automate just a single zigbee group of lights? I'm using ZHA.

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Ah, I think I found. You can add the entire ZHA group as a device to the automation and it lets you select which group to turn on/off or toggle.

outer frost
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Hiya. Zigbee newbie here. I purchased some IKEA Fyrtur shades and have managed to get them integrated with ZHA. It was mainly through stumbling along and reading forum posts. Now that it is working, I am wondering if I did it correctly. In the image below, there are three shades all in the same room. There are also two repeaters, somewhat evenly spaced between the shades and a Conbee II. You can see that the Conbee is connected to the repeaters, the repeaters to themselves, and one shade to the Conbee. What I don't understand is why doesn't that one shade connect to a nearby repeater and why is the signal strength of the other two weaker even though they are closer to the repeaters than the Conbee? https://paste.pics/55918be926c4849e701b851b569769ee

austere patio
outer frost
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Thanks, @austere patio. I guess I just like things to make sense 🙂

worldly apex
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Looking for a Zigbee floodlight for a bathroom that has color. I plan on controlling an ikea switch via HA. Any recommendations? I was looking at Sengled, but do these easily integrate into HA using ZHA?

violet dagger
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There's Gledopto floodlights but no info on how they work with zha. They should since they follow ZigBee spec

graceful notch
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isn't a floodlight a bit much for a bathroom?

dry fossil
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Depends how big the bathroom is, I guess 😂

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Might be one of those LA mansions.

worldly apex
dry fossil
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I think they're just remarking on your choice of words. A lot of people would call that a 'downlight'. A floodlight is something designed to illuminate a large area (like a football pitch).

sour shadow
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Or a really really big room

dry fossil
worldly apex
sour shadow
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You're clearly in Australia then 😛

worldly apex
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lol

dry fossil
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That'd be an uplight 😂

worldly apex
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From LA to AU... U all think I am living it up 🙂

dry fossil
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Nah, we're all peasants in here. The rich folk are all over in #zwave-archived

worldly apex
sour shadow
worldly apex
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Sad... I have Hue... trying to unlock

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Came with my LA mansion I bought :)... now, trying to make the best of it.

molten linden
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do BR30 bulbs fit? There are options for those.

worldly apex
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Yep, thats what I am looking for

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@molten linden BTW got everything going with the Gateway. Awesome product! Thanks.

wide nimbus
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If I get a zigbee double light switch to replace a normal single switch, can I use the unused/unwired button to control other things (like a smart bulb or whatever)?

violet dagger
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yes

wide nimbus
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Nice, that’s a standard feature on all/most that I don’t have to look out for?

violet dagger
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even if its not wired, the relay inside will switch and have states in HA, you use those to automate and control other things

wide nimbus
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I guess the switches tell the controller which then tells the relay to on/off then

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Brill, thanks for the info

oak zephyr
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curious...a few things I have wanted to use with ZHA aren't listed as compatible including the Aqara neutral double https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Aqara_WS-USC04.html and single rocker https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Aqara_WS-USC03.html single gang...but they are listed as confirmed with Z2M. Also a tuya based "Smart MINI PIR" which I can't find the model right now but it is: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002426841721.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5a404c4dvyZN0O

This seems to be happening more than not that ZHA does not always recognize devices, but the Z2M does. @violet dagger would you say Z2M is typically more compatible? Is Z2M generally better with tuya based as well by chance like the PIR I mentioned above?

dry fossil
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Both can be made to support things. If something is currently supported with one but not with the other, it's just that someone hasn't yet added support.

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There's also no need to tag specific people for that question.

oak zephyr
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Yes, most can be made compatible, but that is not by someone like myself that doesn't understand using the quirks. So generally for all intensive purposes, what is the opinion here as to best compatibility currently? I want to hit the button and it add accordingly to the respective platform and have t work in HA. Simple. I have tubes ethernet coordinator with HA/RPi4 currently.

dry fossil
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what is the opinion here as to best compatibility currently
The one that supports the greatest number of devices you own. No-one else can tell you what's best for you.

violet dagger
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reason being z2m is not limited to Home Assistant only

oak zephyr
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and i guess that is why I tagged blakadder as he provides a direct answer to the direct question and not the run around and stipulations. appreciate the feedback.

part 2 with a network based coordinator like tube's, can I point zha and z2m to the same network coordinator for testing? or does that not fly in this environment. i am not familiar

molten linden
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can't use both at the same time.

dry fossil
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and not the run around and stipulations
His answer was just as vague 🤷‍♂️

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more devices in general

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Which means... it depends which devices you're using.

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ZHA and Z2M are both great... but they're different.

austere patio
oak zephyr
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Darn! I setup ZHA several months ago since it was easier to setup at the time. Well I guess I don’t have that many devices in there yet…

austere patio
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Or let Z2M overwrite the settings with inferior defaults, since you have so few devices. Just keep the channel at 15, since Z2M's default of 11 conflicts with WiFi channel 1.

oak zephyr
# dry fossil Which means... *it depends which devices you're using*.

Understood, but my question said "So generally" so wasn't going for my specifics. Just was trying to find out which typically/generally had more device compatibility. That's all I am saying. I appreciate everyone's input as you all are far more informed than I am in this realm for sure! I'm putting this thread to bed in my mind now.

oak zephyr
austere patio
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So really just pan_id, ext_pan_id, channel, and network_key

humble merlin
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stiff shoal
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You ever figure this out? I can't get any ZHA_events to fire with it, even though the Ikea on off switch works

tiny timber
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What would I be missing/what challenges will I face if I moved from ZHA to Z2M? Considering dumping my Hue stuff and putting it all on one Zigbee network, but a lot of it doesn't work in ZHA, just Z2M.

austere patio
tiny timber
austere patio
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The list isn't exhaustive for ZHA, it's just what people have reported works (to that specific GitHub repo). Try joining the devices to your ZHA network, they'll probably work.

tiny timber
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Hmm, rough. If they DON'T work, I will need to re-pair everything to Z2M. Guess I'll just try one of each type and see what happens. Also wondering if there's anything desirable that Z2M offers over ZHA (aside from wider device support)? Don't currently use any devices that need MQTT, but definitely a chance of it in the future.

austere patio
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Easier to change network settings and supports more devices, but they both support common stuff. There's no device that will only work with one specific integration, it's just a matter of someone adding a quirk/converter for it (if it needs one).

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Z2M also runs separate from HA so if you use something else for automations, those will continue working if HA is down

tiny timber
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And conversely, if Mosquitto has an issue, everything will stop working 🙂 That's the main reason I went with ZHA initially (that and retained MQTT messages causing ghost states). Do you know if Z2M cleanly exposes a top level "device" like ZHA does, with child entities? Or is it just entities named based off parent device?

austere patio
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That I don't know. Never really tried using Z2M with Home Assistant.

dry fossil
humble merlin
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I’m expanding my smart home stuff and had a question.. do I want zigbee lightbulbs or zigbee light switches? Or both? If I just do bulbs power will keep cutting to them if the light switch is off which affects the mesh right? So is there an advantage of zigbee bulb + switch over just having a switch?

violet dagger
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do you want adjustable color temperature lighting?

humble merlin
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Not super important. Dimming is nice but not required as this is in some hallways etc

violet dagger
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then go with smart switches and dimmers

humble merlin
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Any recommended Brands of bulbs / switches?

violet dagger
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the ones that work for your electrical standard

humble merlin
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Lol

outer dirge
faint vine
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Hi folks, I got some Ikea Tradfri shortcut buttons, I've connected one up with ZHA. However it doesn't seem to be working quite right. It took a few minutes to go through the pairing process (unlike my Aqara devices that were pretty much instant), and the only entity it has seems to be power, which is "unknown", I tried adding an automation using "Do something when... "Turn on" button pressed", but I get nothing. Any ideas?

dry fossil
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Buttons aren't on/off, they're buttons.

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They send events, so you need event triggers for automations.

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I don't use ZHA but I think the event type is zha_event, and you'll have to filter on other properties that signify which device/button was pressed.

faint vine
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Ah, when I went into Integrations > ZHA > Tradfri button, then clicked + on automations and selected "Do something when... "Turn on button pressed"" which seems to have created an automation with a device trigger

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does seem to get me something with event_type zha_event, nice 🙂

wicked raptor
faint vine
wicked raptor
dry fossil
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It's a similar idea. Looking at the trigger and actions of that blueprint, you should be able to copy most of it.

faint vine
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cool, will dig in, thanks folks 🙂

dry fossil
wicked raptor
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yeah, you can also just look at a blueprint and usually deconstruct them into automations

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you can also go to developer -> events > listen to events and use zha_event to see the details of your button show up once it's paired and you click it

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(which is a bit more ontopic)

faint vine
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Fun, seems like it's gonna fight me though, my automation (which worked twice) doesn't work any more, and listening to zha_event and pressing the button yields nothing, might try pairing it again.

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Paired again, good news, it now shows the battery level, bad news, going to dev tools > events > Listening to: zha_event and pressing start listening, then pressing the button gets me nothing

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It's strange because my automation, that one time, definitely got a signal from it, I was able to go into the trace and pull all the zha_event info out of it.

worldly wren
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heyy guys. Is it possible to define the power on default of zigbee lights using ZHA

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i found the config where i can see the atribute but i am not being able to change it

dry fossil
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Depends on the light, not the integration.

austere patio
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What happens when you try to change it?

worldly wren
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It says invalid int base 10

austere patio
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What are you inputting?

worldly wren
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I have different brands but I am starting with the Philips hue one

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0 1 etc

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When I change to 1 and them ask for the value it says none

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When I put 0 it says StartupOnOff.On

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The input box only accepts integers it seems

austere patio
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After doing this again, upload the part of your home-assistant.log file somewhere that shows this (or upload the whole thing if you don't care to redact it)

worldly wren
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@austere patio what should i put here to test

obsidian sandalBOT
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worldly wren
austere patio
worldly wren
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0 puts in the states it shows

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xxxx.On

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1 i get "none" when i was back

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and no error

austere patio
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Did you set the manufacturer code override or was that already filled in with 0?

worldly wren
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when i first start i query and it showed "StartUpOnOff.On"

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i played around with some number and when i put 0 it goes to that option

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but i do not know the manufactur code to choose Off

austere patio
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Delete 0, I don't think you need one

worldly wren
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what zero

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so what do i put?

austere patio
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Is the default not for the field to be empty (the manufacturer code override)?

worldly wren
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it might

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but it is not the default that i want 🙂

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i need to know the code to put it off when power is on

austere patio
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You don't need to mess with the manufacturer code override, it's not related to the attribute you're trying to change

worldly wren
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okay.

austere patio
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The start up on/off attribute is a part of the Zigbee spec so you should be able to write 0, 1, or 2, etc. to change the start up behavior

worldly wren
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so how do i cheng the code. change the "value" and click "set zigbee atribute"?

austere patio
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Yeah

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0 is off, 1 is on, 2 is toggle, 255 is "keep the last value"

worldly wren
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omg it is so simple 😦

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i put 0 and now it says: "StartUpOnOff.Off"

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lets see if it works

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worked like a charm 🙂 one bulb down, two to go 😄

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Thanks. i though one field was for reading and another to write 😄

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another bulb always says "none" does it means it does not supports this feature?

austere patio
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If you can't read the attribute then the bulb doesn't

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Which one is it?

worldly wren
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One from Lidl

austere patio
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The bulb says it doesn't support the attribute so it currently doesn't, but maybe there's a firmware update for it or something

worldly wren
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that would be another challenge: firmware upgrade

obsidian kettle
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Just added and Enlighten 43076 switch to my home. I'm using ZHA integration with a ZZH coordinator. I've reset the switch per its instruction (hit UP rocker 10x), but I can't get ZHA to detect the new switch. My other Zigbee switch (another Enlighten 43076) has no problem being detected and utilized.

austere patio
obsidian kettle
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wow, core logs show all kinds of timeout and zigppy errors. maybe I'll just reboot the host.

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I wonder if ZHA is tripping up on a second switch of the same make & model

austere patio
obsidian kettle
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Ok. That’s helpful. Would the other Zigbee devices be working if that were true? I’ve got a light switch and a window sensor that are both online.

austere patio
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No, you can't interact with other devices if the coordinator is not responsive

obsidian kettle
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Must be a red herring then

austere patio
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Even if your network is doing nothing, every 30s the coordinator is "pinged" by ZHA to make sure it's still alive. Your coordinator didn't respond.

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Are you running Home Assistant OS?

obsidian kettle
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Yes

austere patio
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What version of the OS are you on?

obsidian kettle
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6.2

austere patio
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Are you running HA in a virtual machine or something? The periodic pings are basically to test serial connectivity, if the coordinator doesn't respond then something is very broken

obsidian kettle
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VM on Proxmox

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I might rollback to last weeks backup just to see if it works

austere patio
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Have you tried physically unplugging and re-plugging the zzh stick?

obsidian kettle
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I haven’t tried reseating the stick, no.

austere patio
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The CH340 I think has issues with passthrough

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Because the error you're seeing is not something Home Assistant or its components have any control over

obsidian kettle
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I’ve got a TI stick

austere patio
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ZZH uses a CH340 usb-serial chip

obsidian kettle
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I’ll shut down HA, then reconnect the stick. See if that helps

austere patio
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You can hot plug the stick with HA still running, it'll try reconnecting

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Not sure if the USB passthrough will like that though

obsidian kettle
obsidian kettle
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Well, no more core log errors since reseat of the ZZH stick. But, the new switch still isn't being detected. I got nothing in the logs when attempting to find the new device.

gloomy pivot
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@vale gate do you have the lutron aurora dimmers?

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i have only used them strictly NOT with a hue hub, but have integrated them into HA using both ZHA (standard HA zigbee integration) and Z2M (standalone container that binds zigbee to mqtt devices)

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if you need help, let me know

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unless you're tied to that hue hub, and then idk lol

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over a conbee

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i pretty much only got into zigbee in the first place in order to use those dimmers lol

austere patio
gloomy pivot
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@obsidian kettle same recommendation (since you've already got a zzh), z2m is great

austere patio
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@gloomy pivot The integration has no impact on whether or not a device joins. It just asks the coordinator to permit joins and is then notified when a device joins.

gloomy pivot
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i know

obsidian kettle
austere patio
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If you do, keep it off for like 10s. Most devices don't really shut off for a few seconds even if you do cut power.

green sparrow
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Hey everyone. I'm running the latest HA, on a raspberry Pi 4. Everything is updated. I have a conbee ii, and a zigbee network setup with a whole bunch of devices connected. I use node red for automation. Usually my setup works well, and has been stable for a year or so. but recently i connected a tradfri on/off zigbee switch, and then hooked it up to a wall plug with node red, so the tradfri buttons turn on/off a lamp.

but, here's the weird thing. the tradfri on off is also switching another random xiaomi zigbee wall plug.

i thought it was node red playing up. so i turned off node red completely... and the tradfri buttons still switch the xiaomi wall plug!

I have no automations, and no scripts. also, i have no xiaomi hub powered up, so the only thing that could be sending commands to the xiaomi zigbee wall switch is the Home Assistant.

does anyone have any idea how I can work out what's triggering the xiaomi wall plug ?

austere patio
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Is the wall switch still controllable without the Tradfri button?

green sparrow
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Hey @austere patio , it is

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it's actually used for another node red automation, and was (and still is) working fine with that

austere patio
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Hmm. I think the IKEA buttons may be sending a group command and the Aqara stuff may be a part of that same group?

green sparrow
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^ this is very possible, and I have no idea how all of that group command stuff works. how do I check ?

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i think I found it

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I have 3 random groups. the wall plug is in all of them??

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Weird. I wouldn't have set this up. So can I just remove it from all of them?

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hah. I removed it from all the groups. then went and hit the tradfri button. and the plug still switched! went back and checked HA groups, and it's re-added itself to all of them again!

austere patio
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Can you try removing the remote from the group instead? You likely will have to click buttons on it to keep it awake.

green sparrow
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It doesn't show up as being in the group?

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or would it only show while it's awake ?

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ok, fixed. i needed to remove the lumi/xiaomi plug from the default group only

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if i remove it from all groups, it re-adds itself to all groups automatically.

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and the tradfri button triggers the first group only

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thanks @austere patio !

obsidian kettle
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well, dammit, my device still won't be detected by the ZZH. I don't suppose there's an easy way to do a zigbee packet capture, is there?

austere patio
obsidian kettle
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No, I don't. This ZZH is my only zigbee stick

fiery arch
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Does binding in Zigbee/ZHA affects the ZHA groups ?

gritty frigate
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Howdy 🙂 so why can't devices be reassinged to a different domain?

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detected light but using as switch - while I can easily get around this mostly "visual" problem with a few devices - but ever since I started using templates to fetch info from all devices in a specific domain (e.g. which lights are on), this can cause some hiccups

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so wondering if light.mydevice -> switch.mydevice is possible at all with ZHA

obsidian kettle
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I'd love to change "binary_sensor.lumi_lumi_sensor_magnet_aq2_c7bcfa06_on_off" to something friendlier.

sour shadow
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You can change the right hand side

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The left hand side is linked to the functionality of the entity though - a light cam be dimmed, a switch is purely on/off

oak zephyr
rapid jetty
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Tradfri remote center button (1002) stopped working. Changed battery, removed and readded to Deconz still nothing. Button works because pairing process requires it. If I hold the center button for approx 5sec an event 1002 will be seen in Dev Listener. All other buttons on puck work immediately. Tried removing battery overnight as well. No luck. This was working perfectly and stopped after a reboot.

azure tinsel
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I'm getting allot of errors in the logs saying invalid color mode received, invalid or incomplete color value received, and dict object has no attribute click when rendering. I have been looking for a while now but can't seem to find the issue. Does anyone know what's causing these errors to happen? I get these ever since in moved to z2mqtt

frank hull
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The electric meter on my house is a zigbee based meter. From my research they seem to require a "Smart Energy Profile." They asked for "home device with a MAC address and Install code" What kind of device is this? I'd like a zigbee coordinator that can get the data from the meter and control switches or get data from other sensors if possible? I have many wifi devices, but want to get into zigbee as well, mainly for the electric meter data

molten linden
frank hull
ivory hound
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ohhhhh the .....

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you know

final pivot
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What are your guys go to Buttons? I need about 4 and really like the Hue buttons (circle ones) but can't justify £17 each for them, Ikea shorcut look good but no double press

sour shadow
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The Xiaomi and Konke ones work well for me

ivory hound
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i am so bored that i'll also recommend some

final pivot
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24 quid? xD

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Since brexit buying smarthome gear is dud

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Seems our only options are Lidl, Ikea, Hue and overpaying for the china stuff from ebay to the point we might aswell go for hue

ivory hound
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so u british, got it

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but 24 pounds is not so much

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is the same in eu

final pivot
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Something like the Aqara one I think, best price I can find is £25 for 4 and 2 months shipping

junior viper
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Running ZHA, got almost every device integrated at home, except for 8 x GU10 Trådfri .. Logs says not much, any ideas?

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Using ConBee II

austere patio
bronze apex
final pivot
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thats pretty neat, I want to go native seems like the best two options are Sonoff and Aqara mini buttons, the question, Aqara look better but im guessing the sonoff will be more available to me in the uk

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thinking of buying like 6

violet dagger
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only if you like cheap rubbery button that you need to press exactly in the middle

sour shadow
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The Sonoff range also get pretty mixed reviews when it comes to their reliability

violet dagger
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and sometimes twice >P

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why dont you pop off to your nearest IKEA instead

final pivot
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Ikea has only actions, and hold action, Aqara/sonoff has double, triple click, so guess by them comments, the ikea shorcut button is know to be reliable/easier to press?

sour shadow
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AliExpress is always an option 😄

violet dagger
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out of those aqara is the best but... time is money

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although they should have an amazon uk store by now

final pivot
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sounds like the ideal smart button ain't been created yet

violet dagger
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you mean the first xiaomi button?

final pivot
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no, because you say its hard to press as you have to get in exact middle, sonoff reliability, is there any perfect buttons, seems not

verbal grove
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I have re-added a Zigbee Motion sensor in Phoscon. When motion is detected, it is shown within phoscon. The newly added device isn't shown in HA though. When I go to dev-tools and search for it, it isn't here. Only the old, removed device is. same in config --> integrations --> deconz. Only the old device is shown. Will it update automatically at some point or do I have to do something? I named the new device differently

final pivot
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Bigger buttons I think there is like the opple ones

violet dagger
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sonoff is hard to press

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xiaomi wasnt even mentioned

final pivot
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If i could choose a perfect it be the hue smart button, it just needs double and triple press support

violet dagger
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xiaomi has quintuple 😛

final pivot
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xiaomi round one? bit plasticky and noisey... I know ocd

violet dagger
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at least i know i pressed it

final pivot
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and the other half asleep

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lol

sour shadow
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Aqara square one is fine

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Konke round one is ok, and I prefer it for buttons you'll hold, but it's taller and not as good for when you're sticking it to something

violet dagger
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symfonisk does triple press

final pivot
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cheers, Ikea be easier/cheaper but I think I will kick myself when christmas comes and I want to use some of the double/triple presses

sour shadow
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Don't forget the Aqara cube

violet dagger
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i only use WXKG01LM for stick on quick buttons and some ikea dimmers where appropriate

final pivot
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Recon this site is legit?

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Has the aqara ones

violet dagger
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what do you mean legit?

final pivot
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a scam site

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about £10.60 per button

violet dagger
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you can check if its a registered company in the UK

sour shadow
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Which, given it's based in Poland...

violet dagger
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#brexit

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i guess being in UK is not a requirement anymore

sour shadow
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You can get them from Ali for about £7.50 each on a 2 week delivery time

final pivot
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sorry i've tried looking could you link me

sour shadow
violet dagger
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thats one item that's not at all hard to find on alix

final pivot
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okay I was being too broad with my search term

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lol

violet dagger
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using the model number will narrow it down further

final pivot
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Thanks going to order the aqara, I looked at ikea again but I don't want to be regretting it come christmas xD

violet dagger
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how do you know you won't regret it with aqara's?

verbal grove
violet dagger
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probably the deconz discord

final pivot
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hmmm well I think resale of the aqara cos im waiting will be good

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can always flog em 😛

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same can be said with ikea really, people will pay overtop posted within the uk

hoary crest
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i have some zigbee bulbs installed and classic switches on the wall, so every time someone other than me enters the the room he flips the switch to turn on the light but actually cuts power to the bulb, what device would i need to make the switch smart and turn on the light instead of cutting the power when someone flips it?

violet dagger
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a smart switch

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or a blanking plate for a cheaper solution

hoary crest
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forgot to add: i dont want to replace the actual switch

violet dagger
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then an in wall relay module or dimmer

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but not all of them can decouple the switch from relay control

final pivot
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haven't use ali in a while, said one price then went to basket and it went up lol

hoary crest
violet dagger
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not for brexitons, they have other problems

sour shadow
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Tea is not one of those

violet dagger
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calling the factory floor dust tea doesn't solve it

hoary crest
final pivot
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Oh does ali add tax on in the basket now?

hoary crest
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yep

final pivot
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can't we set a ''include tax'' button

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they know us brits hate that crap

violet dagger
hoary crest
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its hard to google without knowing any of the keywords :/ my electrician is my dad who is 72 and cannot wrap his head around things like smart home and stuff ... he knows how to wire things together though 😄

violet dagger
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oof, that will not end well

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in wall relays, switch modules and there's like 6 more terms used depending on the country

hoary crest
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i found some relais that support disconnecting the actual switch from the bulb and monitor the switch position to decide whether to turn on or off the bulb

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but still not sure thats the correct solution for it

violet dagger
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that is what youre after, otherwise theres not point in doing it

hoary crest
violet dagger
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but thats a dimmer not a relay

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you cant dim smart bulbs using an AC dimmer

hoary crest
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yeah, its available as a relais too

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sorry

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thats the correct one

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id need it as a 2 gang

violet dagger
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the next question is whether your zigbee integration supports it with the decoupling feature

hoary crest
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currently running deconz but want to switch to z2m ... just waiting for the zzha to become available in the EU again -_-

violet dagger
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only that device does not have decoupling support in z2m afaik

hoary crest
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oof

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not sure yet was decoupling support is

violet dagger
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separate switch from relay

hoary crest
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but thats hardware/wiring related, no? how does the integration come into play there?

violet dagger
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its software related, the firmware needs to activate that feature

hoary crest
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like ... i wire the relay so it always has power and knows the current state of the bulb ... ok i think i got it

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someone needs to tell the relay what state the bulb is in

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and that needs to be the integration

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right?

violet dagger
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not at all, relay doesnt care

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the in wall module has a switch input and a relay, usually toggling the connected switch toggles the relay unless the firmware is instructed not to

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what you want is to have that switch send a toggle message to the bulb using the coordinator

hoary crest
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so if i toggle the switch it shouldnt toggle the relay but instead tell z2m to decide what to do and then z2m tells the relay what to do ... this way?

violet dagger
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no, if you toggle the relay off your smart bulb becomes very dumb without power

hoary crest
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so i basically dont want a relay ... i want a wall internal switch behind my current switch that only sends messages to HA

violet dagger
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if you find one that isnt Hue let me know

sour shadow
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Or to replace the switch

hoary crest
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and just wire my bulb to always power

sour shadow
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Never do that without having some way of cutting the power

violet dagger
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there's always the breaker 😛

sour shadow
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Have you tried power cycling the house

hoary crest
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its not really a bulb, just used that term for simplifying wording, its some wall mounted LED panels where i would always cut the breaker if i was to assemble anything there 🙂

violet dagger
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as i told you in the beginning, a blanking plate and problem solved

hoary crest
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hrm yeah probably the easiest solution, i kind of like my switches though 😄

violet dagger
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do your led panels have dimming?

hoary crest
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yes

violet dagger
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so you have smart lights you can only dim remotely but you want to be able to turn them on or off using a switch?

hoary crest
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exactly

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i can actually dim them by flipping the switch from on to off to on but i dont need that ^^

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i dont need the damn switch at all ... but you remember my dad is 72 ^^

violet dagger
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so he will endure the dimmer level which is currently set?

sour shadow
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Smart (remote) dimmer sounds like a good option - also deals with POLA

hoary crest
violet dagger
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and that's why smart light control is superior to smart light sources

hoary crest
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yeah i learned that too now but it is how it is now

violet dagger
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well what you're after doesnt exist in zigbee space at a normal cost afaik

hoary crest
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replacing the lights would be pretty expensive

sour shadow
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(for instance)

violet dagger
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a shelly i3 could work but i have no experience with it

hoary crest
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in retrospective it just wasnt a smart idea to buy smart bulbs

sour shadow
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It's a common mistake

violet dagger
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it is if you can get rid of the old paradigms

sour shadow
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To be fair, they can work just fine, if you account for them

violet dagger
hoary crest
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yeah i got that

sour shadow
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The challenge with dimming is that you really want a remote that supports binding so that it's smooth and responsive

violet dagger
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the green power modules would work but support is iffy for them as of today

hoary crest
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dimming really isnt needed ... i can always do that with HA as i do right now and i love it ... it is really only having a switch to turn on/off the lights for unsmart people 😄

sour shadow
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If you're going to give them a switch, give them a dimmer too

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Then they can manually turn the light on and off, make it brighter and dimmer

obsidian sandalBOT
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The Principle Of Least Astonishment means that things should work in an obvious way - don't expect that you can teach people to do things differently to how they've always done it

Command '~pola' was invoked by: Tinkerer
hoary crest
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i mean ... i was able to explain to my dad to tell alexa to turn on the lights ... but he just hates it 😄

sour shadow
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So... adapt to humans, rather than forcing them to adapt to you?

violet dagger
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you'll be spending equal or more money to solve smart switching that you can spend for smart switching and dimming

hoary crest
sour shadow
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No, you want a dimmer

hoary crest
sour shadow
hoary crest
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so turning the light on really is sufficient

sour shadow
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You and I differ on what that means

hoary crest
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but if i can have a dimmer for same expense and more important not have to change my switch layout its fine too

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but i think i will look into the blanking plate -> remote solution

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thank you both for your input on the matter

eternal phoenix
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hi. Are there many advantages to ZHA over Z2M? I was just talking to a (opinionated) guy in the hardwareswapUK server, and he said that only sane people use ZHA, implying Z2M is bad? And also said the zzh! stick is shit, and nowhere near as good as the deconz ii? Is there any truth to this?

uneven ruin
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anyone talking up the deconz ii is insane

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the number one response to people on here with issues using deconz is "why did you do that"

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(from what I've seen)

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The aurora is zigbee and can be bound to a zigbee group assuming you're using a good stick

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it didn't work right with my old stick (the light level never synced)

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but they work great now

austere patio
tiny timber
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I've had no issues with the Conbee II, but definitely not using deconz on it. Last stick was the CC2531 which was alright, but nothing amazing.

dry fossil
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ZHA and Z2M are both great. They each have tons of users and tons of support from developers. They both support a wide and growing range of devices.

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For most people, it won't matter which one you pick. In some cases, Z2M is the best option (let's say you need to run a second Zigbee network out in another building, you can have a cheap Pi or something running Z2M and sending the data back to HA.

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Mostly, it comes down to personal preference - ZHA is less setup, but Z2M doesn't tie you into HA release cycles for updates.

twilit narwhal
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It really also depends on your devices. For instance I switched from ZHA to Z2M because the support for Aqara H1 double rockers switches was lacking and buggy (no state for right button and missing configuration options for decoupled mode)

hardy ridge
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Every time I update HA now days the deconz addon/integration seems to bug out. I think the USB device is getting a new IP and then the integration fails. Is it somehow possible to set the IP for deconz itself?
Error connecting to deCONZ gateway at [IP]
Last time I had to remove the integration and re-add it but then I also loose all my renaming of the devices.

ivory hound
sour shadow
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That'll be for the add-on though

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Not sure how possible that is - but AFAIK you should be using the hostname for it

ivory hound
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but i'll suggest for you what i suggested to every single person i could, just dont use it

hardy ridge
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I just wonder why it started to change all of a sudden. Is it that update on USB devices that was pushed out this(?) release of HA?

ivory hound
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in fact i would go with almost anything else except deconz / via deconz integration

hardy ridge
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I can tell from the posts above here that there is some bad talk about Deconz. I tried to move to ZHA once and it just failed me (or I failed it due to no experience) but what are the benefits? Is ZHA like the new Z-Wave JS?

sour shadow
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ZHA is the built in Zigbee support

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It's the simplest way of getting Zigbee in HA with no external dependencies

ivory hound
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ZHA is endessly better then deconz integration (is the build in zigbee of HA)

hardy ridge
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And I can still use the Conbee 2 with it?

ivory hound
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and i'd sugges not to use it with conbee stick

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i dont know how is it now bit in my time when i've tried zha with conbee was a bad combo

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my advice is if you want to learn new stuff and go geek way go for zigbee2mqtt

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if you just want to use zigbee, go for ZHA

hardy ridge
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I think I have like a cc2531 somewhere that I bought to try instead of Conbee/deconz but it was a lot more technical to setup IMO that might have changed now days though

ivory hound
hardy ridge
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I just want it to work really. My days of tinkering with stuff all days are gone... now it just needs to work

obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '~pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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CC2531 is just junk

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ConBee has mixed reports - some people have no issues, others have many issues

hardy ridge
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Not sure what I have to be honest, I bought it from a nice guy in the community a couple of years ago with a 3d printed encasing, flashed and ready

sour shadow
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CC2531 then

hardy ridge
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Yeah it seems

hardy ridge
supple folio
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Hi all, I have a problem after move from Pi3 to Pi4 with a ConbeeII that ZHA is unable to find it anyway wich port I connect it to. But also I cannot find the place where to select the device (which comes up when 1st time implementing the integration). Anyone any idea what to do? Should I delete the integration and re-deploy or do I lose all my devices and sensors then?

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Logger tells something like "Error setting up entry /dev/ttyACM0 for zha"
and "Exception: Could not form network."

mighty river
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Hi guys my HA keeps searching for ZHA Zigbee Devices, but the devices are in pairing mode.

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Someone has an idea what it might be?

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It can not detect the zigbee devices.

eternal phoenix
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although I did then ask him what channel the zzh! was on, and what channel the new conbee ii is on. His answer was that he doesn't know and never checked... So I wonder if it was just the zzh! was on the same channel as his wifi or similar?

sour shadow
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I'd bet on interference

eternal phoenix
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I'd be on it as well, or possibly that old Hue bug whtn dealing with ZHA profiles.

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but I just asked for his detailed answer on why use ZHA instead of Z2M, and... literally "Oh someone told me to use ZHA"...

sour shadow
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To be fair, there's a lot of folks who're of the somebody said, so it must be true persuasion

ivory hound
austere patio
supple folio
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How do I do that again? Meanwhile for double check I switched back to the old Pi3 and here the stick still works. Found an article about doin firmware update on the stick but after this experience I am a bit in doubt about doing so

austere patio
storm grail
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Hi everyone, I started HA today and I have my first problem. I installed ZHA and everything seemed fine. The first device i added was the "Linkind 5-Key Smart Bulb Dimmer Switch Light Remote". The Problem is it only shows the battery state.I tried to do an automation with it but the only trigger is the battery status. When i try to reconfigure it it shows an error. Deleting it and installing the device again also didnt solve the problem. Im a total noob and dont know what to do.

dry fossil
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If it's battery-powered, it's not a switch - it's a remote.

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Remotes send events, so you'll want to use an event trigger looking for zha_event.

storm grail
shadow valley
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does the Conbee II stick work with h-a?

dry fossil
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Barely. It's a terrible stick.

sour shadow
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I mean, it works, of course ... which integration is the question

shadow valley
sour shadow
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If you search the channel history you'll see that there's a lot of posts from people having problems with it

obsidian sandalBOT
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@shadow valley When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

Command '.reply' was invoked by: mono
sour shadow
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Fine if you're gonna run deCONZ, but there's better choices for ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT

dry fossil
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And the best advice we can give about running deCONZ is:

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DON'T

shadow valley
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got any recommendations?

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which stick to use, i mean

obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '~pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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Which is even in the pinned messages

storm grail
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I have an Remote Switch and im trying to create an event. when i press start listening and then press any button noting happens. Im really new to HA and dont know what to do

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Im using ZHA with the apparently really bad Conbee II. i tried deCONZ but that doesn't detect the switch at all

austere patio
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What does the device signature look like for your remote?

storm grail
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I have no Idea what you mean with that.

austere patio
obsidian sandalBOT
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@storm grail Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (text longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://paste.ubuntu.com/ (just not Pastebin).

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

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golden vessel
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is anyone working on multi entity per cluster support on ZHA?

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or is it stalled?

gentle flint
golden vessel
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o friend of mine is using ZHA and after a power outage, it is frequent that many of his IKEA bulbs (around 20 IIRC) get offline and he has to repair them all (fortunately, it is a cluster and they are all on the same power switch so he can reset them all at once).

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is there any known issue in ZHA (or EZSP) that could cause this?

dry fossil
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Why doesn't your friend ask so they can respond to any followup questions?

wide pumice
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Hi, fairly new to HA & ZHA. Very impressed by all the functionality.
Question: How do I set a zigbee 'Cluster Attribute' from a HA automation script?

Trying to set 'TuyaManufClusterSiren (Endpoint ... ) > melody (id: 0x0466) which I can do manually via the web interface, but can't automate that 😦

gentle flint
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Zha.set_zigbee_cluster_attribute service

wide pumice
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Ah, cool. is there some docs/example I can look at?

gentle flint
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Check the dev panel, it should provide an example for the parameters

wide pumice
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Nice, that's not an area I've explored yet... thanks

gentle flint
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You would need to know the endpoint number, cluster number and attribute number. The first two are available from ZigBee signature or from the manage clusters panel

golden vessel
wide pumice
gentle flint
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I haven't tried, but with 0x prefix, hexadecimal might work too in the service

fleet lodge
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For CC2562P2-based routers, does anyone have a recommended power amplifier level?

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+5? +10 dBm?

sour shadow
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Why not +11?

fleet lodge
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I'm worried about too much noise. Coordinator is at +20 dBm.

sour shadow
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Admittedly, you have to be of a certain age to get the Spinal Tap ref

spare talon
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A classic

molten fulcrum
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Hello, I switched from SmartThings to Home Assistant. My devices include several SmartThings multipurpose sensors (ZigBee). My problem, however, is that the battery of these now drains very quickly (instead of 1 year, they last 3 days). Does anyone have any idea why this could be?
Home Assistent OS in Raspberry PI 4B 4GB with ConBee II + SmartThings Mutlipurpose Sensor STS-MLT-251

Edit: It can't really be due to the signal strength because the devices are in the same place as before (with SmartThings). In addition, most devices are no more than 2 meters away from a Zibee router device.

sour shadow
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ZHA?
deCONZ?
Zigbee2MQTT?

molten fulcrum
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ZHA with ConBee II

oblique mauve
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Hello, can you tell me if I need the Aqara HUB to use Aqara devices in HA?
Or devices can connect directly to Conbee?

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I think a HUB is not needed in general with Zigbee

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so my guess is that Aqara works the same

mighty river
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hello, not sure if this is the right channel. I am looking for a way to implement lighting control. The idea is to have a physical switch on the wall to turn on the lights, but I can also assign other actions to the button.
I bought a ZigBee wall switch now, but clicking the button does not update its status in Home Assistant. Besides, I cannot assign any other action to the button.
The functions I am looking for only offer wireless buttons? In case of failure, I will not be able to turn on the light.
I imagine that I have a wall switch with, for example, 3 buttons. Pressing each of them switches the lighting, and holding it down brightens / dims the light. I was planning to use wall switches and smart lightbulbs but it seems wrong way?

oblique mauve
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Ok I've found the confirmation.
I don't need the Aqara hub 🙂

sour shadow
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Correct, you just need a working Zigbee integration

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And a decent stick - whether a ConBee counts depends on whether you're using deCONZ or not 😄

mighty river
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and I am using ZHA

sour shadow
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Then the "switch" is a remote, and it sends events

worldly apex
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Has anyone had issues connecting Ikea Buttons to ZHA? I cant seam to get them to connect... I have the two different versions of the buttons.

mighty river
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I connected ikea tradfrii remote without any problems

worldly apex
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okay, good to know.

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Just pressed the button on the bottom for 10 seconds, correct?

mighty river
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not sure if it was 10 seconds, but yes, hold the button

sour shadow
worldly apex
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I am using ZHA... Although I only have a few sensors so could change

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@mighty river did you get any indication the button was in pairing? I mean, its as simple as it can be... hold a button... thats why its driving me nuts :).

mighty river
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nope, but it was detected by ZHA right away

worldly apex
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k

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its clear its me :). I will look at my setup

sour shadow
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The pairing steps I linked are for the device, not the integration 😉

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Assuming it's the shortcut button you have

worldly apex
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I see that now. Thanks (again)... for all your help

sour shadow
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It is frustrating that there's no consistency in how devices are put in pairing mode

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I do like the ones that simply have a button you hold down, keeps it simple

worldly apex
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well, by the time I am done, I will have a list of things not to do with Zigbee 🙂

obsidian kettle
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Worth noting that a specific channel configuration for zigpy might keep you devices from being discovered. I had to comment out my channel config and restart Core to be able to discover my new switch.

austere patio
obsidian kettle
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Ok. Worked for me

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Figured the device only listened on some channels, not all.

austere patio
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Your network exists only on a single channel (15 unless you changed the default when forming a new network) so the device would scan for it after trying a bunch of others

humble hill
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anyone about to help me add an alarm keypad to HA? sorta stuck over here

worldly apex
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Ugh, I finally got the ikea Zigbee shortcut button connected to ZHA and it shows no battery and it does not appear to be connected. I can use the pair button to get it detected, but cant seam to use the button presses in any automations.

Thoughts in why the button will pair but will not stay connected to the Zigbee network?

green cove
remote patio
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is the new home assistant os still having zigbee issues? or was that fixed.. because I'm having a similar problem with 6.4 as I did with 6.3

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hmm.. looks like it should be fixed

molten fulcrum
molten linden
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Try to repair them, they may not have paired completely.

ivory hound
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also question: wtf is everybody using conbee sticks in here? (to answer my question i guess they are easy to buy)

tiny timber
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What's supposedly wrong with the Conbee sticks? And what is the better option?

violet dagger
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Nothing is wrong, its just old and tired and doesn't work as well in ZHA and Z2M

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Anything with CC2652 chip

torn pawn
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Hello 👋 I just purchased some Phillips hue colour bulbs and I'm trying to connect them to my conbee 2 without the hub.. its not having it. Anyone know how to set these up? Thanks!

humble merlin
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in order to bind an ikea remote to a lightbulb, after i add it in z2m, then do i just go to the mqtt integration and put the topic and payload in there? or can i do it from the z2m device settings.. i see a bind tab in z2m, but not sure what exactly i'm doing in there and the documentation didn't refer to it

snow bear
violet dagger
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might as well wait for it if your system works right now

ivory hound
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in your case it will be like 1h top, maybe 2 if you are a beginner

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my advice "JUST DO IT!"

silver stump
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Hey there,
I have zhh! (Electrolama stick), ZHA, and legrand valena life netatmo zigbee switch.
How can I put the switch into pairning mode so i can add it via zigbee cordinator?

worldly apex
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I am still fighting with ikea shortcut buttons. I have one connected to ZHA and I was able to configure it and see it in the Network Visualization, but... I cant seam to get any action from the button.

If Ii listen to zha_event in debug I should see the button press, correct?

sterile sleet
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i think so, yes. i remember mine only sending some events, nothing more

worldly apex
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I also have the 5 button remote from ikea. It is also connected to ZHA and I see all the events there listening to zha_event

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hmm, if anyone else is looking at this, I removed the battery of the Ikea Shortcut button and put it back in, now I see the events in zha_event

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so, looks like I am good to go, just need to deal with the debounce.

sterile sleet
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the battery state also takes a bit to get reported by the ikea buttons… just wait

ivory hound
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ah ikea, such a great thing to have, as a doormat or maybe some furniture but not as zigbee

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😇

near echo
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In my experience, the ikea's 5 button remote and Symfonisk sound remote (for any rotary motion) works terrific! and is a daily driver to control multiple devices

lavish veldt
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Is anyone having a problem with zigbee2mqtt 1.21.1? I found out that it is not publishing any homeassistant topic messages. Downgrading to 1.21.0 fixes the problem. Am I alone with this issue?

ivory hound
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i had it too

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after going back and forward it worked

lavish veldt
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oh, I'm gonna try that

neat pulsar
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Hi I just received my CC2652P to replace a cc2531
I have plugged the CC2652P which has obtained device /dev/ttyUSB0 (while the cc2521 is still plugged in and has /dev/ttyAMC0
I have then updated the conf to match and replace the device value and restarted z2m
it does not look like things are working
and I am no sure what I can to troubleshoot this

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the device I have bought is supposed to come with the right firmware (no need to flash). How could I ensure that ?

neat anvil
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So i am curious, is there a way to "link" a button to a "relay" in zigbee, so if, for example the hub goes down, (Or home assistant goes down) then somehow the zigbee system alone k knows that if you hit this button, to turn on this relay?

dry fossil
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Some devices can be 'bound'.

neat anvil
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Hoe does one know what devices can be bound, and how one binds them?

dry fossil
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How you bind them depends on the integration you're using - the docs should tell you. You'll know if it works because it'll work.

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Basically, try it and see.

neat anvil
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So, now the question is. Which docs? I am using a Sonoff Zigbee hub with Tasmota firmware with Home Assistant..

dry fossil
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Which integration?

neat anvil
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Let me check at home..

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Zigbee home automation is what it says.. Does that help?

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i am not using Zigbee to MQTT, that I know.

dry fossil
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I would expect there to be something in the ZHA UI to assist with binding. I don't use it, so I can't say where.

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I don't see anything in the docs about binding either - but it's a feature of Zigbee, and not limited to a particular integration.

neat anvil
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And how does it do the binding, do oyu know? Like does it bind them though the hub. So if HA disapears, the hub takes over? or does it bind them though the devices themselves, so if BOTH the hub and home assistant disapear it still works.

obsidian kettle
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Would it be so bad to change the domain of one of my Zigbee switches? It defaults to “light.”, but it’s connected to a fan. I’d like to change it to “switch.”

dry fossil
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The coordinator (what you're calling a hub) is required at all times. It's what controls the flow of messages in the network.

dry fossil
dry fossil
obsidian kettle
# dry fossil You can't just change a domain.

The switch that defaults to the light domain has the wrong icon in HomeKit via the HomeKit bridge, and can’t be changed because it’s a light. Any ideas on what to customize in HA to make it show as a switch? I checked out entity customizations, but doesn’t seem to be what I need.

dry fossil
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You don't. You can't change the domain.

obsidian kettle
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Awesome

dry fossil
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Customisation is to tell HA what kind of sensor a sensor is (like light level, water sensor, etc). They're still sensors.

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Lights are lights, and have the properties you'd expect for lights (brightness, colour, etc).

obsidian kettle
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But it’s a switch

sour shadow
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You could wrap it with a template switch

dry fossil
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Indeed. Or fix the problem that caused it to be recognised as a light.

sour shadow
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In HA terms a switch is simply something that's on/off - a light can be dimmed/has colour

obsidian kettle
dry fossil
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Stop with the tagging...

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I don't need a notification every time you answer me.

sour shadow
obsidian kettle
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Sorry.

dry fossil
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If ZHA doesn't know that the device is a switch, the problem is somewhere in ZHA.

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I don't know ZHA but some of the devs that do hang around in here and might be able to offer suggestions.

obsidian kettle
dry fossil
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There's one way but it's at our end...

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Most of the 56 people in my blocklist got there by tagging me too often 😂

sour shadow
tropic depot
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What’s the signature for the device

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Chances are the device misidentified itself

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and it requires an override to flip the type

molten linden
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here's how to override it in configuration.yaml.. zha: device_config: 00:12:4b:00:1f:94:56:e8: type: 'switch'

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with the devices actual ieee in there.

obsidian kettle
torn pawn
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Hello 👋 I just purchased some Phillips hue colour bulbs and I'm trying to connect them to my conbee 2 without the hub.. its not having it. Anyone know how to set these up? Thanks!

mellow geode
torn pawn
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Nm, sorted

gentle flint
gentle flint
gentle flint
vestal dew
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Hello, anyone here has an Aqara H1 in their setup? I have a couple of D1s but am looking to upgrade, just wondering what states are available for use on the H1 in ZigBee.

Nevermind, found some info here.
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/WRS-R02.html

faint vine
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Hey folks, I have a few Ikea Tradfri shortcut buttons ( https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Ikea_E1812.html )

When I pair them with ZHA, pairing takes rather long, but eventually succeeds. If I go and look at the button in home assistant, it says that it has a battery entity but that the battery level is "unknown". If I go into dev tools and listen for zha_event and press the button, nothing happens. Here's a log of the pairing process. https://dpaste.org/owGE, no log messages are produced when I press the button. Lines 83 and 102-104 may be relevant. I have had them work once or twice, but most of the time it doesn't work.

Any ideas?

gentle flint
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It fails to read the battery

failed to get attributes '['battery_size', 'battery_quantity']' on 'power' cluster: Expected SRSP response AF.DataRequestExt.Rsp(Status=<Status.SUCCESS: 0>), got AF.DataRequestExt.Rsp(Status=<Status.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>)

What radio?

faint vine
gentle flint
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Enable debug logging for zigpy_znp. Remove device, reset it and re-pair again. While it's pairing, keep remote awake by pressing buttons on it every other second

austere patio
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NWK_INVALID_REQUEST only happens when the device can't be contacted normally and a few other addressing modes are tried. It's probably just asleep.

plush latch
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anybody has installed zigbee2mqtt on windows 10?

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Im receiving some weird error messages in node.js

austere patio
plush latch
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installation

austere patio
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Seems like just npm start should work

dire charm
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Anyone here used CC2652RB from slae.sh?

sour shadow
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Yes

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Lots of people

dire charm
sour shadow
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as well as ... what?

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Zigbee sticks have a problem with interference from USB 3.0

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That's not stick specific, that's the nature of USB 3.0

dire charm
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That's what I meant, sorry

sour shadow
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The answer is USB 2.0, or at least a USB 2.0 extension cable

dire charm
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Ahhh ok, but the stick I mentioned is a solid option? Or are there better alternatives out there?

sour shadow
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It's fine - the seller's communication is utterly lacking but the stick itself is fine

dire charm
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Ok, I will place an order then I guess. But you recommend an extension cable as well?

sour shadow
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Yes - see the pinned messages in this channel

dire charm
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Will do, thanks for quick reply

plush latch
lofty valve
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Hi all, brand spanking new HA person here. I just got me HA built, installed and I am looking for a ZigBee stick so that I can pull the Phillips Hues motion sensor off the Amazon echo and put it in HA, any suggestions for the ZigBee stick?

dry fossil
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Depends which integration you go for... but the CC2652 stuff is decent. Either the zzh! or tube's stick. Details for both can be found in the pins/topic.

lofty valve
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Thanks, I am going to try a Nortek

empty hedge
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So I have spent the last few days trying out HA and well I am struggling to get even the most basic functionality working. The problem I have is that I have no idea where the issue is so I have just been going down different routes. What I am trying to do is get my recently purchased Raspberry Pi 4 with RaspBee to recognise a recently installed fan/light switch combo which is zigbee compatible.

I don't expect people to diagnose the problem as I won't be providing nearly enough information. However I would like to isolate whether the issue is.

  1. Hassio on the Raspberry Pi
  2. RaspBee II
  3. MQTT on HA
  4. Conz.

HA is up and running in so far as I can connect to it. RaspBee II I think is being recognised but I am unsure. If I see this Phoscon-GW when I click on Deconz in HA does this mean it is up. MQTT can can send a message and receive a message when listening. HA and MQTT are on the same box but I would assume this is still a valid test. My light switch is in pairing mode. As far as I can tell it should detect as a light switch in the Phoscon according to the manufacturer (Nue 3A Smart switch). When I click Add new lights, no lights are found.

mystic tulip
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do I go with the etherserial or usb coordinator?

sinful swift
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Is your Home Assistant server in a central location? If yes, or if you are going to use a bunch of repeaters -> use a USB coordinator. If no -> use an etherserial coordinator so you can easily install the coordinator somewhere central.

mystic tulip
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just ordered the Ethernet version, incase I run into problems running under a VM machine

hearty night
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no I think this is different, I don't think they make that model anymore 😦

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I used to think wifi smart home stuff was awesome but I've seen the light and sadly it seems that light is dimming on manufacturers

scenic drift
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I have a general question about the Zigbee integrations for HA. I am currently using the Deconz addon. I am thinking about switching to the native HA zigbee integration. Would this be better? I am currently struggling to add some (chinese) sensor to my Zigbee net. Will it be better by using the native Zigbee integration?

faint vine
sour shadow
scenic drift
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@sour shadow Okay, good to know, thanks for the information. I will try this out

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Is it possible to migrate from Deconz to native somehow?

sour shadow
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Unfortunately no

low mirage
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Hello...

My current setup is on pi4, and zigbee I am using sonoff hub (which is flashed with tasmota). I have started new installation on VM and I want backup of current zigbee integration alone and to be copied to new installation. Is that possible?

I do not want to copy the whole configuration backup to new installation.

Thank u!

(could you tag me when u respond)

sour shadow
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And ... you didn't answer the question in the channel topic

low mirage
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One sec, lemme check it..

delicate ginkgo
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Hi friends! I'm struggling to pair a number of IKEA bulbs with zigbee2mqtt and I'm all out of ideas. maybe somebody can help please? I've already paired a fair amount of Innr and Philips bulbs, but these are my first IKEA ones. The bulb in quesion is this one: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/LED1732G11.html
I've set permit_join: true in the zigbee2mqtt configuration.yaml, then I've factory reset the bulb (6x on/off) right next to the zigbee antenna. the bulb blinks (probably from the factory reset), but then nothing happens. There are no new zigbee2mqtt logs. Any ideas what else I could try? Thanks ❤️

uneven ruin
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what stick are you using?

delicate ginkgo
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zigbee2mqtt with mosquitto and a custom zigbee dongle

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ah what "stick". hmm good question, one sec

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Wireless CC2531 Sniffer Bare Board Packet Protocol Analyzer Module USB Interface Dongle Capture Packet with Antenna

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has been in use for about 2 years and no pairing problems so far

near echo
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How many devices are connected to that stick, maybe your device limit is exceeded. You can enable the debug functionality and see if the z2m is recieing any pqckets

delicate ginkgo
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24 devices currently

austere patio
delicate ginkgo
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ok removing the stick & plugging it back in did the trick

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bulbs are now pairing

austere patio
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Your stick probably locked up. Were you able to do anything with it while it wasn't allowing devices to join your network? Control bulbs, receive sensor readings, etc.?

delicate ginkgo
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yes, everything was working fine

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stick locking up actually happens from time to time, about once a month or so

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didn't think it was the case though because everything else was working fine

austere patio
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That's strange but somewhat expected with the CC2531. It hasn't had any firmware bugfixes in years.

delicate ginkgo
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is there a "recommended" stick that works best?

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I don't mind spending on the hardware; it's just that I couldn't find a definitive answer to this question back then. I saw a lot of guides recommended the CC2531

austere patio
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Any of the CC2652 sticks should be plug and play with Z2M, I believe it automatically migrates now

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If not, it's easy to do that yourself

delicate ginkgo
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ah wait I just saw the relevant page in the docs. nevermind 🙂

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thanks for the help!

austere patio
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Though that one isn't using the pre-made CC2652P module and has its own RF circuitry. Not sure if I trust it, but the other sticks are out of stock so 🤷‍♂️

uneven ruin
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slaesh is in stock

austere patio
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Looking at the recent complaints, he's still using DHL and people still say their orders can take three months to arrive. Or a week.

sour shadow
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Stock Yes
Communication No

uneven ruin
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Mine was a week. easy peasy

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Everyone else has been out of stock since I bought mine months ago, unless they squeeze one or 2 in sometimes. Everytime someone asks here they're out

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you could wait a month and hope someone with better communication actually goes in stock, or order now and know you're getting something

outer plaza
uneven ruin
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shipped to US

uneven ruin
outer plaza
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Ohh I see it's sent from Germany, It's good for me

novel wigeon
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can confirm the guy still ships with DHL. At least he shipped with DHL like a week ago. For what its worth, i had my order within 72 hours from ordering (sunday) to the parcel being delivered (tuesday). However i live like a 1 hour drive radius from where he ships, so your milage may definitely vary 😄 But its shipped within 48 hours for sure.

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didnt have any issues or question, so i cant comment on his communication

outer plaza
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Yea, I bet problems start when expediting parcels outside EU.

uneven ruin
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DHL isn't the best in the US, but I've never had anything not show up - just longer than UPS or FedEx would normally be

daring spear
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I have Home Assistant, Philips Hue bridge and Ikea 5-button switch.

Is it possible to control a hue lightstrip with this remote - and what do I need more to set it up?

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I didnt get it to work with hue essentials... Can't I just add the remote directly to home assistant?

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Please @ me or pm if you can help

drowsy vapor
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Is anyone here using ST radios?

feral warren
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Hey everyone, I recently got an Aqara motion sensor and modded it to detect every 5 seconds. I found that HA doesn't update that fast and I needed a script to do this. My issue is that the script resets the state of the motion tracker and then immediately turns it back on. The reset would make a light flicker or things turn off and on really quickly and I was wondering if there was a way around that?

sour shadow
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And you're using ZHA?

feral warren
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Yes

sour shadow
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That's important for others to know 😉

feral warren
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my b my b, I'm missing shots left and right here lol

austere patio
modest quiver
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Anyone here know of a smoke detector without an alarm (or an alarm that can be disabled?)

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Before anyone asks (as this is a strange request) this is so I can look into pre-emptively turn on the extraction fan by putting a smoke detector near the oven/hob.

If the smoke detector triggers it can turn on my very efficient but also noisy extraction fan before the smoke makes it to the wired alarm in the hallway.

However for this to work I don’t want an alarm triggering while I’m making steaks I just want the extra extractor to turn on.

dry fossil
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Any smoke alarm will do the trick. Just cut the wire to the speaker.

modest quiver
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Thanks Mono, that was my plan b, just figured I’d ask before just in case someone had done this before. 👍

dry fossil
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Not something I've seen discussed before, you might want to check the history. I'd imagine silent smoke alarms would be pretty uncommon... more so if you're also limiting yourself to Zigbee.

austere patio
feral warren
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awesome, thank you!

austere patio
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If it works, you don't need the script to reset the sensors. It directly modifies the timeout only for the modded Aqara sensors.

drowsy vapor
austere patio
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ZHA doesn't have a library for em and I don't recall Z2M having one either

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Oh, looks like they do. If there's a USB board writing a radio library to use it should be possible but most efforts are currently focused on SiLabs and TI radios

quartz berry
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bit of a zigbee newbie here. I've got a conbee device and played around with some zigbee devices, but now I'd like to deploy a zigbee doorbell button and doorbell chime in a way that could keep working if my conbee/HA managed zigbee network drops offline. Any suggestions on what I could do here? Do I need a little standalone zigbee controller to carve them off into their own network?

drowsy vapor
hazy cradle
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Hello, Is possible to change the sensitivity on a aquara sensor?

dry fossil
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Which sensor? They make many.

worldly apex
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Hi Everyone... I just added another ikea button to my ZHA. I had the same problem as previous. I was able to join the button, but could not see any events from ZHA (listening to zha_event in debug mode).

The fix for this was to remove the batter and reinstall (after the button was paired with ZHA) and all the sudden I can see the events.

Just providing this as a tip in case anyone else sees this issue

latent rune
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Hi - after upgrading zigbee2mqtt to v1.21.1-1 I am loosing more and more zigbee devices. When I try to join the devices it is impossible and the manufacturer now seems to be "Undsupported".
Any suggestions please 🙂

blissful frost
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I'm trying to get zigbee2mqtt add-on setup. My ha is running in a vm on my unraid server and I passed the conbee stick through to the vm. When I restarted the VM, supervisor -> system -> hardware listed the conbee at ttyACM1, so I put that into the config file and started up the add-on. The log threw an error saying it could not find the conbee at ttyACM1; sure enough, I check the hardware list again and it is gone.

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So I then went to the integrations page and I see that the conbee II was identified and it offered to setup ZHA. I clicked configure and saw this message: Do you want to setup ConBee II - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2448718-if00, s/n: DE2448718 - dresden elektronik ingenieurtechnik GmbH - 1CF1:0030?

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so I tried putting /dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2448718-if00 as the configuration and it still would not work

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can anyone point me to how I can identify the conbee stick for the config?

drifting vortex
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Having got myself a proper server I am in the process of setting up HAOS VM to move away from the docker setup I am currently using. I have got most of my Zigbee devices repaired, but I have no idea how to do it with my Philips Hue bulbs.
When I originally started I was using the Philips Hue Bridge, then when I moved on to my Conbee II / Deconz setup so far as I can remember it kind of just inherrited the bulbs (my memory sucks so that could well be wrong).

Long story short, how to get Philips Hue bulbs in pairing mode with out the bridge.

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Never mind, although they never registered during the search for devices in the ZHA integration I have just noticed they are now showing the the list of entites

dry fossil
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For future reference, the links in the topic and pins have instructions for a ton of devices if you ever need to know how to put something back into pairing mode.

still rapids
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Howdy - I'm running Zigbee2Mqtt and I'm running into an issue and for some reason, the logs are no longer being populated. As of a couple of days ago, the folder is no longer being created when the service is restarted

dry fossil
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How are you running it?

still rapids
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Running it directly within HA using the native addon

dry fossil
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Then you'll want to check that the add-on is installed correctly and that the config is valid.

still rapids
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Log file in the addon looks OK

vale gate
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Did I buy the wrong thing if I got this: "CC Debugger CC2531 Zigbee CC2540 Sniffer Wireless Bluetooth 4.0 Dongle Capture Board USB Programmer Module Downloader Cable" ?

dry fossil
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Yes. It says CC2531.

obsidian sandalBOT
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The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

What something better? Anything CC2652 based (see here for some) or the current generation EZSP (see here for some).

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '.cc253x' was invoked by: mono
vale gate
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Well that says they work, just not very well?

dry fossil
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Exactly. So you'll end up getting annoyed that it's slow and can only have a few things connected to it, then you'll spend more money to get a good stick.

vale gate
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Well, I need it for 2 bulbs, and I have it in front of me.. And it dosent work at all. 🙂

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I dont want a big network, that was why I got it.

austere patio
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Is it a CC2531 or a CC2540?

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One is Zigbee and the other Bluetooth

vale gate
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Ahh

austere patio
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The chip on the board will tell you

vale gate
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cc25xx usb dongle

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That dosent help much

austere patio
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Not really 😆

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Where did you buy it?

vale gate
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Aliexpress

austere patio
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Check the "color" for your order

vale gate
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The id in ha says cc2531

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"lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Feb 2 2021 usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B001CDD25F2-if00 -> ../../"

austere patio
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Did you flash it with coordinator firmware?

vale gate
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CC2531_DEFAULT_20201127.zip

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They never mentioned what the firmware was, but I did flash that on it

austere patio
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The .zip file itself or the contents of it

vale gate
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The hex file specifically

austere patio
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So when you say that it doesn't work, what specifically are you trying to do?

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Add the ZHA integration? Zigbee2MQTT?

vale gate
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I have it my rpi, and I was trying to install Zigbee2mqtt

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But basicly I just want it to work with my two bulps, so I am open to suggestions. 🙂

austere patio
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So you can't get Z2M running with the stick? What do the debug logs say?

vale gate
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Log for zigbee2mqtt?

austere patio
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Yeah, I believe it makes a logs folder

vale gate
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You want it all or just the fatal part?

austere patio
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It shouldn't be very long so just upload the whole thing somewhere, though the error message should be pretty indicative of the problem

vale gate
dry fossil
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[23:07:49] FATAL: No internal MQTT service found and no MQTT server defined. Please install Mosquitto broker or specify your own.
The problem isn't the stick.

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You haven't followed the full setup.

sour shadow
dry fossil
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Zigbee2MQTT requires that you set up MQTT too.

vale gate
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Ohh

dry fossil
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The add-on will pass messages between the stick and your MQTT broker, but you need to tell it where the broker is.

austere patio
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If you're looking to control two light bulbs then ZHA may be easier to use

dry fossil
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For once, I'm going to agree. Go with ZHA 😄

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Simpler to set up and you probably wouldn't benefit from the things that make Z2M different.

vale gate
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Well, I have a feeling I'll be doing it for other people in the future, so might as well go with the good one to begin with?

dry fossil
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They're both good, just different.

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Device support is great on ZHA and Z2M. Adding missing devices is about as simple on each.

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Z2M's selling point is that it's decoupled - you can update Z2M separately from HA, and even have it running on a separate machine somewhere else (in the same house or miles away), because the messages get sent back to HA via MQTT. If that isn't important to you, ZHA is probably a better choice for you.

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We sometimes joke that Z2M is better, but it's just personal preference.

vale gate
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Ahh, so if you have a server in the basement, you can have a pi in the house and still run it from down there kinda thing?

austere patio
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With ser2net or socat running on the pi you can do that with both

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And benefit from Z2M (or HA+ZHA) running on more capable hardware

vale gate
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Oh wow, ZHA was alot easier..

austere patio
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😎

dry fossil
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Yeah, this is one case where ZHA is the clear winner. Faster to set up 😄

austere patio
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Be aware that the CC2531 can lock up every couple of weeks. You have to unplug it and plug it back in to fix it (no need to restart anything).

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Other than that serious bug, it'll control all your devices fine if you have a well-connected mesh and don't exceed the 40-something child limit for it (or is it 20?).

vale gate
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Sounds like a fun little toy. 🙂

dry fossil
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Think it's 20 direct children for that one. Still plenty for a small mesh.

sour shadow
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20 direct children, unless you use the source routing firmware

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Then it drops to 5, but it can support more devices

obsidian sandalBOT
molten fulcrum
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Because of the last answer to my question, I replaced the Conbee II with a CC2652P to see if that improves. It was already flashed with the "Z-Stack Firmware" when I bought it. And an antenna was also attached. I still use ZHA, but now I have a problem (see Code Link above)
ZHA - CC2652P "Z-Stack Firmware"

obsidian sandalBOT
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@molten fulcrum Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (text longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://paste.ubuntu.com/ (just not Pastebin).

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

Command '~codewall' was invoked by: Tinkerer
molten fulcrum
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The problem does not occur every time at startup (about every third time) and then a reboot does not help. Only restart + usb stick out and in helps (and sometimes it takes several attempts).

austere patio
violet dagger
molten fulcrum
austere patio
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That's the model info for the CC2652P chip. You need a bit of circuitry to interface with it, which is what the rest of the Zigbee stick is for

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Can you post the link to the store?

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Z2M and ZHA have identical startup sequences, including trying to connect to the stick three times

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Yours seems to have an active serial port but the CC2652P part isn't responding

molten fulcrum
molten fulcrum
austere patio
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Can you enable ZHA debug logging and get it to start up again? In your home-assistant.log file, you will see a line that says Z-Stack build id: ...

molten fulcrum
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How do I activate the ZHA debug logging? Do I do this in config.yaml?

austere patio
molten fulcrum
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So I checked the logs. Unfortunately there is no z-stack build id.

austere patio
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It's definitely in there. Are you running a recent release of Home Assistant?

molten fulcrum
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Yes, I'll send you the .log as pm.

austere patio
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It should also show up in the ZHA device page, CC1352/CC2652, Z-Stack 3.30+ (build ......)

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Thanks, got it

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It looks like the stick isn't able to start up, so there is no way to query the build ID

molten fulcrum
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Just to be on the safe side: There is also a zwave.me stick on the raspberry pi. That's not a problem, is it?

austere patio
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Hmmm

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If it also uses a CH340 usb-serial chip then there is no way to tell the two apart

molten fulcrum
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Just now i also saw this line: 2021-09-21 17:28:00 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.uart] Connecting to /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0 at 115200 baud
Shouldn'tit be sth. Like /dev/ttyUSB0?

austere patio
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Though it's pretty tiny so I doubt it

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No, the by-id path is correct

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/dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0 is a symlink to /dev/ttyUSB???. The order of the ttyUSB can change, but the by-id link should always stay the same.

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Was this after you unplugged the stick and plugged it back in?

molten fulcrum
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So the problem occurred the first time after I changed the device_class via a pattern (in configuration.yaml) and then restarted the Raspberry Pi.

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I just looked again in the Zwave extension and found it the following devices:
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-0658_0200-if00
/dev/ttyAMA0
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0

austere patio
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0658:0200 is your Z-Wave stick, ttyAMA0 is the internal serial port on your pi, and the 1a86_USB_Serial one is the Zigbee stick

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So there doesn't seem to be any hardware conflict between the two

analog ember
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Anyone else having issues with Ikea on/off (and the up/down shade remote) using zigbee2mqtt & ZHA. Tried both systems but the remotes keep dropping off the network, most of the time when they haven't been used in a while. It kinda seems like the batteries run out because when I want to re-add them I have to use a new battery. Time it takes for them to drop off seems completely random. Some did in 2 days and others did it after 3 months.

sterile sleet
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yeah the ikea remotes only last 2-3 months on a battery for me also, they are designed to operate in a group but I just ditched them for hue remotes. those last for years and have no trouble…

analog ember
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Hmm, that's quite short yea. I'll see if I can return all 5 of them I have since ikea allows returns up to a year.

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Which hue remotes do u use? Because I choose ikea for their price

sterile sleet
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the hue dimming remotes

tardy tinsel
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I put a aquara temperature sensor in my freezer outside... Zigbee LQI is showing 0... Don't know if I trust that or not but I'm curious if there is a way to boost the signal or "repeat" the signal coming from the device in the freezer... Anyone else put one in the freezer?

austere patio
tardy tinsel
austere patio
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If it's Aqara then it won't look for a new parent once it finds one

tardy tinsel
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ahhhh....

austere patio
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Factory reset it and then selectively permit joins through only the closest router

tardy tinsel
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got it

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thanks

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That did the trick! Thanks a bunch.

high lagoon
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Hey, i have a little question, i use the zha integration with a conbee 2 stick.
I have to kinds of plugs with energy metering, xiaomi aqara mmeu01 and the newer maeu01. I have the switch and a sensor for the current power usage. I have also a sensor for the energy meter but it don't get a value. do you have any idea? 😅

hallow vine
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Hi Guys. Im moving all of my Xiaomi zigbee gear to the ZHA Sonoff bridge running tasmota.

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Im running into an issue with adding the Xiaomi buttons. The forums have a lot of conflicting and outdated posts, none of which seem to work.

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I can read the events perfectly in the events viewer, but no matter what I do, I can't get the button click to trigger an automation.

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If anyone uses Xiaomi buttons and ZHA can you please send me some example YAML. Thanks

sour shadow
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Have you tried device triggers? AFAIK ZHA supports those

hallow vine
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Oh FFS it works

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now I just need find a list of these devices trigger subtypes which apples to these buttons

dry fossil
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What was wrong with the events? I think that's the preferred option for ZHA stuff that doesn't expose a sensor.

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I'm sure someone in #automations-archived can help you with event triggers if you share the event you want to react to.

grim quarry
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I just tried switching from ZHA to Z2M and on startup get this error: "Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)"
It was working fine on ZHA, just wanted to play around with Z2M. From what I can find the normal fixes are to plug and unplug or the wrong device path was entered. Its /dev/ttyUSB1 for me and the path works fine on ZHA. I've tried different USB ports as well as removing the extension I was using. Any other ideas? My adapter is a Nortek HUSBZB-1 which looks like there is a firmware update you can do, so that is my next option, just wanted to avoid it if possible as it looks like a pain to do.

austere patio
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Support for EZSP radios in Z2M is also experimental so it may still have some bugs (if it works at all with the older version of the EZSP that your HUSBZB-1 is using)

grim quarry
gleaming jay
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I restarted my HA and when it came back up one of my aqara zigbee temp sensors is showing unavailable. I tried pressing the button on it, no luck. Then I tried going into the device configuration for the device and hit 'reconfigure device'. I woke it up before doing it and it says reconfigured successufully, but when i check the details it shows a table with Cluster, Binding, Reporting, and all the binding and reporting cells are empty

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and it doesn't start working

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is there any other way to get it going again short of removing the device and re-adding it?

austere patio
gleaming jay
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okay

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sooo does that mean reconfigure won't do anything?

austere patio
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Yeah, there's nothing to reconfigure. Once the sensor is on the network it just sends stuff on its own.

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When you press the button on it, does the LED blink brightly? It could be that the battery is low (ignore the percentage reported by ZHA, it's effectively useless).

left shale
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Does anybody else experience missed motion messages with a Philips hue motion sensor in zigbee2mqtt? Sometimes it just doesn’t send the motion detected message, which is very annoying. Using tubes usb coordinator.

dry fossil
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Sometimes it just doesn’t send the motion detected message
What is 'it' in this context?

light pagoda
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anyone using the Frient switches? I had it installed, looked very nice, and small. A thin Fibaro form factor. unfortunately the signal strength on my Deconz Conbee 2 was very bad. dipped from above 150 in direct diagonal sight to 10-15 only 5 cm further away around a brick corner in the same room... Useless. Rts.

twilit narwhal
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Hello everyone. I have a Aqara WRS-R02 and a WS-EUK02. They’re part of my Z2M network and work flawlessly. I have an automation triggering the toggle on each endpoint of WS-EUK02 based on event on WRS-R02. It’s really good but carries a little delay between press and action. I read a bit about cluster binding but I can’t figure out what to do and how it works in z2m. Has anyone here already done that and could point me to some material ou give me some guidance?

formal ledge
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Hello. All of my ZigBee services have stopped working. I use a conbee 2 gateway. My friend set this server up for me and is not available to help troubleshoot. Is there a solid technical reference you all can recommend for me to start troubleshooting? It's dark in my house ATM lol.