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solid hollow
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If your box that is RUNNING ZHA + HA goes down it goes down... if your HA containers go down the ZHA network will still function

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That being said -> if you are doing all your automation in HA then yes...

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I believe using groups/clusters and scenes you should be able to have it all function inside Zigbee... at least you can do this in zwave for sure

dull quartz
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But, as far as I can tell, zha does not run in a container on its own?

solid hollow
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It depends on how your install is

sinful swift
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No it does not. It is an integration. Part of Home Assistant. So it goes up and down with Home Assistant.

solid hollow
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Oh ok mabye I've got my head confused into zwave

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I'm totally confused I think... i withdraw the aformentioned statements

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But i'm about to check 🙂

sinful swift
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Zigbee2MQTT runs in its own container. Stays up when Home Assistant restarts.

solid hollow
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Yea i totally was confused

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apologies

hardy crane
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I did say

it's a core integration so comes with HA therefore you are not installing additional functionality. Thus no addon

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no one listens

sinful swift
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What?

hardy crane
sinful swift
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Sorry wasn't listening.

solid hollow
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I'm just angry at my stupid ikea symfonisk remote

hardy crane
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no not you tom haha

solid hollow
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that flashesa ll it wants and does nothing useful

sinful swift
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I was just stirring you up.

hardy crane
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don't do a mono

sinful swift
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I could never do that.

solid hollow
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Do Zigbee networks automatically re-form or do you need to trigger this? (aka if i pair something and then move it around) ....

sinful swift
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If you move it you should re-include/re-pair it at the new site. Unless you have a very simple system with no repeaters.

dull quartz
sinful swift
cunning palm
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ok i'm pulling hair out trying to get my new Fyrtur blinds paired with deconz. I've searched and tried what feels like everything to get them to pair. Tried factory resets, putting the curtains right next to the controller, etc and nothing has worked. What am I missing?

sour shadow
azure tinsel
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Anyone an idea how to cancel an update when it is frozen?

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OTA z2mqtt

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Cutting power doesn't work

sour shadow
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It may be bricked

hardy crane
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restart Z2M?

azure tinsel
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Restarting z2m does not work

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Maybe re- pair the devoces

hardy crane
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could try resetting them yes

severe turret
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@hardy crane thanks for the youtube link. Its working now. one question, How i made automations? best way to do it?

azure tinsel
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Ah wait it just took a few minutes

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After power cut

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I can update them again

hardy crane
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FIngers crossed your DHCP doesn't act up

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another thing to look at after 😛

hardy crane
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Is that a trick question?

sour shadow
severe turret
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thanks!!!! 🙂

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and sorry. lol.

azure tinsel
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The DHCP occured at 17.00 so I'm good for another 2 hours 😅

echo plaza
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Hello, everyone ! I'm new and I'm questionning myself on Sonoff Sensor. I search a door sensor and Sonoff have one with Zigbee3.0.
But when I was searching the product, I found multiple forum discuting of Sonoff and Tasmota.
So I have a hassio with a C2531 Eigbee key. I have pair without any problem some ligth and detection sensors (philips) but I'm worried for Sonoff sensor.
Do I need to do something different with Sonoff zigbee sensor (with Tasmota for example) ?

sour shadow
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Tasmota is for WiFi devices, not Zigbee ones, so you can ignore that

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It all should work, assuming the device is in range of the mesh

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Do plan to replace that CC2531 with a CC2652 before it starts causing you issues

violet dagger
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And don't buy Sonoff sensors, they're terribad

sour shadow
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Xiaomi sensors are cheap and (if you pay attention to the pinned message about them) work well

echo plaza
azure tinsel
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The door sensors from aqara/Xiaomi work very well.

echo plaza
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Yes but their work not with zigbee 3.0 :/

sour shadow
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Issues like it locking up

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And yes, they do work with Zigbee 3.0

azure tinsel
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For motion sensors I can only recommend hue but thats a very personal preference. I don't want anything else then hue motion they are the best in my opinion

sour shadow
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Hue are good, but damn large

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The Xiaomi and Konke ones are a lot neater

azure tinsel
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True to that

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But I love the ability to set them to motion reset in 5 seconds and that they have temp and light sensor in it

hardy crane
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you seen the new aqara motion sensors? They look like a good upgrade to old ones

echo plaza
hardy crane
echo plaza
azure tinsel
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@echo plaza make sure to update them

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The newest firmware makes them more manageable with the sensitivity

echo plaza
azure tinsel
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No the outdoor hue motion sensor

obsidian sandalBOT
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@echo plaza When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

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sour shadow
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It's known to fail once the mesh gets busy - you may get to 20 devices before it starts doing that, or maybe 5

echo plaza
echo plaza
sour shadow
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@echo plaza please stop

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@echo plaza with the

azure tinsel
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🤣

sour shadow
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@echo plaza tagging

echo plaza
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Ok Sorry !

sour shadow
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Alternatively ...

obsidian sandalBOT
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@echo plaza When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get very frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar - you have to do this on every reply.

Or don't, and just wait for the recipient to get annoyed enough to block you.

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azure tinsel
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Or just typ tinkerer without the @ this way he won't get so mad

sour shadow
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Or just turn off the ping

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It's not hard

hardy crane
azure tinsel
sour shadow
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That's because you don't pay attention 😛

hardy crane
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Blame discord's design

sour shadow
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It's a stupid design choice, and their UI is ... not well thought out there

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Then again, the new threads also defaults to notify you for every damn message

hardy crane
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even their installer sucks. Can't install discord.exe no matter what I try

azure tinsel
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Well I know now I turned it off

sour shadow
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If I didn't know better I'd say they'd never used it

sour shadow
azure tinsel
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Yeah I see that now

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Can it be turned off on default

sour shadow
hardy crane
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Don't you think we'd have disabled it if we could?

azure tinsel
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It's more like could I turn it off permanently so I don't annoy others

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But I guess not

hardy crane
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Discord didn't really think that through

violet dagger
hardy crane
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Hm it's that bad?

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When I tested aqara vs sonoff I didn't see that much difference

solid hollow
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Will ZHA auto reconfigure if i have a node not connected to anything?

tropic depot
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what do you mean

solid hollow
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lemme see if i can post a picture somewhere

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In the ZHA visualization -> i have a zigbee entry that isn't connected to anything else

tropic depot
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don't bother

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that's all managed at the network layer by Zigbee itself

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there is nothing for you to do

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you can rescan the network to update the topology (just the picture) by pressing the refresh button on the visualization and then waiting about 10 mins or so

solid hollow
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I finally got my ikea symfonisk remotes synced to the network - but they appear to be "chill'n" out on their own

dry fossil
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If it works, it's not a problem. Sometimes a device doesn't respond during the mapping process, so the coordinator doesn't know where on the map it is.

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As long as commands get through, you're good.

sour shadow
lean creek
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Hi, i have a problem with my zigbee Stick (/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B001CCE087D-if00) the Led is disable but the button in zigbee2mqtt isn`t enable

sour shadow
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CC2531.... oh boy

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Check Zigbee2MQTT's logs

dry fossil
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Go, bot, go!

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.cc25xx

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🤦‍♂️

obsidian sandalBOT
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The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

What something better? Anything CC2652 based (see here for some) or the current generation EZSP (see here for some).

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

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dry fossil
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Close

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Too many x's. Story of my life.

solid hollow
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HUSBZB-1 😦 it works mostly

sour shadow
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If the stick isn't responding, then it's time to pull it from the computer, then plug it back in 30 seconds later,

lean creek
lean creek
obsidian sandalBOT
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@lean creek When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

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sour shadow
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Don't see the logs at all, don't see any errors, don't see WHAT?

lean creek
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i dont see errors. everthing is working with the Stick only the led does work

sour shadow
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Is that an actual problem?

lean creek
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yes

sour shadow
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Why?

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If it's just the LED that doesn't work, what does it matter?

lean creek
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i like the green light in my hallway xD

violet dagger
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buy a green bulb

sour shadow
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Z2M turns off the LED when it's not in pairing mode...

graceful notch
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who needs a led

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must be me, i literally shut down every annoying led that blinks 😄

lean creek
obsidian sandalBOT
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@lean creek When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get very frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar - you have to do this on every reply.

Or don't, and just wait for the recipient to get annoyed enough to block you.

Command '~ffs' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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If only software had release notes where it mentions these things...

violet dagger
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i unsolder all the led's and buzzers that tend to be annoying

sour shadow
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Yup, I apply blackout stickers to lots of things - I don't need laser LEDs

graceful notch
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I'm lazy and just put black tape over it

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if i can't disable them

lean creek
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ok i must have missed that

sour shadow
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Alternatively the stick is dying, which is no big loss since it's junk anyway 😄

lean creek
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Which stick would be better and why?

sour shadow
graceful notch
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sorry, couldn't help it.

lean creek
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ok, thanks

compact scarab
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My Zigbee stick (Conbee2 / Deconz) wasn't working for ~24hrs because of a configuration issue; I've fixed the issue but a bunch of devices are not yet connected - do I just have to Wait for them to reconnect, or do I have to do anything special

sour shadow
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Wake them manually, and if necessary re-pair them

graceful notch
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trigger the devices manually or wait forever (or pull out the battery for a sec)

sour shadow
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If it's been 24 hours or more some end devices will de-pair themselves

compact scarab
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😭

sour shadow
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Walking around and pushing buttons is easy enough to do

compact scarab
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Hoping they come back because re-pairing everything would suck so much

sour shadow
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Well, it's only the end devices, hopefully

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And you may get lucky 😄

compact scarab
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I don't mind the button pushing as long as they end up as the same device in HA

tropic depot
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repairing doesnt mean losing everything in HA... at least not in ZHA

sour shadow
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Or Z2M

tropic depot
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that's a gaurantee 😄

compact scarab
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If they end up as new devices it'd be terrible

sour shadow
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Z2M uses the device's unique ID to track it, and you can change that trivially anyway

tropic depot
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I think all 3 integrations use the long address

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for unique ids

sour shadow
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I removed one sensor the other day, and replaced it with a new one. One quick name change and HA didn't even know it was a different sensor

tropic depot
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🙂

sour shadow
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Yeah, Z2M uses the IEEE Address

tropic depot
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same in ZHA

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and IIRC deconz does too.... I remember seeing funky stuff during a frenck stream

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when he had stuff from both integrations there

rancid sky
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I just bought one of these. I’ve heard I need to flash it. Is this true? I can only find zigpy in integrations

dry fossil
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I hope you didn't spend much and that you saved enough money for a real stick.

sour shadow
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~cc235x

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Eh, something like that

obsidian sandalBOT
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The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

What something better? Anything CC2652 based (see here for some) or the current generation EZSP (see here for some).

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '~cc253x' was invoked by: Tinkerer
rancid sky
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Lol it’s just for testing

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I only have 2 zigbee devices at the moment, if this works I’m going to get a nicer stick lol

solid inlet
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If I change a hue bulb controlled through the hue bridge, remove it and then set the new one up to have the same name as the old, will that leave HA side of things intact?

spice kelp
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has anyone gone through the process to move from ZHA -> Z2M? I might need to run my stick in a different part of the house from my HA instance

dull quartz
spice kelp
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well, let me ask a different question: for a stick like ZZH, does anyone have a strong preference between ZHA and Z2M?

dull quartz
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Isn´t this approaching it a bit backwards? In my oppinion you should find a zigbee backend that suits your needs and then get a stick to match unless you happen to have one already?

spice kelp
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i have a ZZH now, it works well with either. but i'm trying to decide if i try to find a way to keep it plugged into the HA box, or if there are other benefits to moving to Z2M that would make the decision easy

dull quartz
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Still not sure I get what the problem is. If ZHA works for you, why not stick with it? Is there a reason you want to move the stick away from the box you´re running HA on?

sour shadow
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The ZZH will work fine with either

ember tree
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Hi all, I have ZZH, sonoff bridge and a couple of sensors connected. It has been stable for s year now. But today i had to resync all of the zigbee sensors again. Any idea what this happened? Both IPs for HA and the bridge are static

solid hollow
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ZHA doesn't have as many featuers i believe as some of the other integrations

spice kelp
solid hollow
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What about a dongle for teh USB stick?

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min's on a 5 ft cable

spice kelp
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i looked but couldn't find a 200ft cable 😉

dull quartz
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Ahhh... So, you might have to move the HA box out of range of your zigbee devices? In that case Z2M is a great choice!

dry fossil
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Z2M and ZHA are both great but Z2M shines when you want it separate from HA - especially physical distant.

solid hollow
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Z2M sounds ideal cause you can put it on (i'm assuming) a much more underpowered pi somewhere useful

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Can Z2m run on a pi-zero?

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(pi-zerow)

dry fossil
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Probably. It just needs to talk to MQTT.

sour shadow
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It can, but I wouldn't

solid hollow
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What about a pi3?

sour shadow
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That'd be quite fine

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I'd never mix Zigbee and Wifi (or Bluetooth) on a single device

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Whatever you run Z2M on, make it wired

solid hollow
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But what about mixing Zigbee/Zwave on a single stick!

obsidian sandalBOT
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The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

What something better? Anything CC2652 based (see here for some) or the current generation EZSP (see here for some).

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

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dull quartz
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How about WiFi, BT, Zigbee and zwave??? 😄

dry fossil
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Get out

dull quartz
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👋

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It isn´t quite that bad... But all 4 are involved across two devices pretty close to eachother...
No issues (that I´m aware of).

sour shadow
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Z-Wave and any one of the others would be fine

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The other three all stomp on each other

solid hollow
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2.4ghz wireless = zigbee ?

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I'm actually running everything together but i've got my HUSBZB-1 (which isn't recommended) on a 5 ft lead

bronze apex
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If I move a device, should I re-configure/repair in order for it to find the best route to the coordinator or will it eventually find the best route for itself?

brazen robin
sour shadow
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Depends. Routers probably will. End devices may not - Xiaomi for instance is well known for almost never changing routes.

bronze apex
hardy crane
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@bronze apex you should generally pair your devices at their final location and not at near your coordinator

sour shadow
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And by generally that really means always

hardy crane
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The odd occasion where it's too far away to pair yet still works when you put it at same location after pairing

sour shadow
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Yeah, but that should be after you've failed to get it working in place, and accepting that it probably still won't work

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Seen too many SurprisedPikachu moments...

hardy crane
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Fair

bronze apex
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Yeah fair, I was testing out a new button I got beside my desk had it paired and moved it, was just wondering if it would work out it's not "best" route. Thanks guys

solid inlet
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I just realized I cannot load the webui of z2m... Has something changed I should've read? I get 401: Unauthorized...

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Still works, and no errors in log

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uses, or should use ingress... What could possibly have broke with that? I have configured SSL, but that shouldn't impact ingress, right?

near echo
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you have put a password in the configuration, you should be getting a popup to enter your password

solid inlet
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Oh... Makes sense, but I don't get a popup...

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did set a pw on the mqtt broker when installing, but it has worked since then until now, never got a popup for a password...

near echo
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if yes, try in a new browser http://ipaddress:8080 .Sometime 8080 is blocked by another program, you might want to give a different port number than

solid inlet
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that seems to be missing from /config/zigbee2mqtt/configuration.yaml... will try adding it

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I was wrong, it was included. These are the last lines "queue": {}, "frontend": { "port": 8099 }, "experimental": {} }

near echo
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so just try with new browser window with that port number

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also check the logs in the add-ons logs

solid inlet
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Hm. Refuses to work...ip address should be the one of home assistant?

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Found Mosquitto said in the log that SSL is not configured... That ought to be a clue...

near echo
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If mqtt is the problem, z2m will report it first it its logs

solid inlet
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I now got this in z2m log Socat not enabled, marking service as down

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Oh well, just to rule it out I removed the SSL config from HA and that made no change at all, so at least not that.

near echo
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How is your connectivity to zb stick? Not through usb?

solid inlet
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It is through usb

near echo
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Socal is not needed. Save your devices.yaml and config somewhere and just uninstall and reinstall the add-on. Something gone wrong

solid inlet
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Agreed. Can I just copy those files back in after reinstall? Should I also save coordinator_backup.json Or will that be recreated as well?

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Thanks for hanging in there with me, appreciate that. 🙂

solid inlet
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Reinstalled z2m, copied in devices.yaml before starting, getting the same 401: Unauthorized as before... Perhaps I need reinstall Mosquitto too, will try...

sour shadow
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Check the add-on logs

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Blindly reinstalling stuff isn't helping

solid inlet
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Agreed. I have now unstalled/reinstalled the Mosquitto broker and try to reconfigure the integration, but it fails to connect. getting these errors on startup of Mosquitto;

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1629814384: mosquitto version 1.6.12 running
1629814384: New connection from 127.0.0.1 on port 1883.
1629814384: Socket error on client <unknown>, disconnecting.
1629814408: New connection from 172.30.32.1 on port 1883.
401: Unauthorized1629814408: Socket error on client <unknown>, disconnecting.
1629814427: New connection from 172.30.32.1 on port 1883.
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Ok. I did a 🤦‍♂️

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I removed the /config/zigbee2mqtt folder instead of renaming it...

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I did save devices.yaml though, but might no be all I need?

sour shadow
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No, it's not

solid inlet
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Well, I could restore a backup, but that'll get me back to a non-functioning system. I guess I need to reinclude everything after reinstalling, or can I magically use devices.yaml somehow?

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ok, back to yesterday, but that's ok. will start over fault-finding...

sour shadow
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You need both the coordinator backup and the database

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devices.yaml is just a config file for naming things and stuff

solid inlet
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Ok. I did save the coordinator backup as well, but what database? (devices.yaml?)

sour shadow
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Best choice now is to either re-pair from scratch, or restore and not change stuff randomly

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No

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Once more

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devices.yaml is just a config file

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It's not the database

solid inlet
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got it

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I will not change stuff randomly, will try to do it structured and also document better, which I have noticed I have missed for the mqtt part sadly

solid inlet
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Ok. I have managed to configure Mosquitto to use SSL. But as soon as I start z2m, Mosquittos log fills up with lots of these ```
1629817486: Socket error on client <unknown>, disconnecting.
1629817487: New connection from 172.30.33.3 on port 1883.
1629817487: Socket error on client <unknown>, disconnecting.
1629817488: New connection from 172.30.33.3 on port 1883.

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I have configured a user and set a pw for that, but when trying to set that in the integration it refuse to connect...

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Ok, scrapping this and start over. I can't find where it fails from the output in the logs... 😦

dry fossil
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Why are you bothering with SSL? Are you exposing your MQTT broker to the world?

solid inlet
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Why not? Sure, requires some extra setup, any well, I haven't got it quite right yet, but should work. As the(?) leading home automation platform, should it not be secure too? I mean, it is, but I want to use it... 🙂

dry fossil
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The 'why not' is because you don't need it at all.

solid inlet
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I thought, as things don't work at the moment, that MQTT needed to have SSL configured as well as Homeassistant to work. So far this hasn't been proved...

dry fossil
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If an attack is inside of your home network, you might as well give them the keys to everything. SSL for internal connections is pointless.

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Most of us don't bother with SSL on our brokers and it works just fine 🤷‍♂️

solid inlet
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I belive you. As I just said, I thought I had to have it to make things work.... 😦

violet dagger
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well, that was a teaching moment

sour shadow
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If you had to have it the docs would say so

violet dagger
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or hours

solid inlet
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Sure. But something is still not right and I cannot find out what...

sour shadow
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Well, start by testing things

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Install MQTT Explorer, give it the same details you gave to Z2M, and see if it can connect

solid inlet
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Ok, thanks. Will give that a shot. Just cant get why it just stopped working. Really haven't touched that, but is what it is

dry fossil
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You can also take more stuff away from your config:

401: Unauthorized1629814408: Socket error on client <unknown>, disconnecting.
You don't need to be authed, might as well allow anonymous connections in Mosquitto.

sour shadow
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well, you clearly changed something

dry fossil
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I'm sure some people reported a while back that more recent versions of Mosquitto don't play nice. v3, maybe. I'm still on v2.

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If you're one of those people that update all containers, you maybe grabbed a newer version than you had before.

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It's a good idea to lock container images down to a target version:

    container_name: mosquitto
    image: eclipse-mosquitto:2.0```
solid inlet
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Thanks for all suggestions. I will try. The version, goes into home assistant configuration.yaml?

dry fossil
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I have no idea how you installed Mosquitto... but no, it doesn't go in your HA config.

solid inlet
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Aha, Mosquitto conf, sorry

dry fossil
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Probably not either. That's for config, not for deciding what version to install...

sour shadow
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That's for your Docker configuration

graceful notch
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I moved to emqx overkill for home use though probably 😄

dry fossil
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Did you use Docker? Add-ons?

sour shadow
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Assuming you don't use add-ons, which you probably do

solid inlet
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Aha, no using addon

dry fossil
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Then #add-ons-archived can help you out if there's a way to install a specific version.

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But everyone knows real men use Docker.

solid inlet
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lol, I'll perhaps convert when I understand why this won't work...

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How do I disable Auth for MQTT then? Have removed the user & pw from the config, but had little impact

sour shadow
solid inlet
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Ok. Thanks

solid inlet
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Ok. Too many hours went into this. For anyone who may encounter this. don't use `Strict* policy in Firefox, or hm, that was the cause. That was the whole thing. Embarrassing, but happens.

worldly apex
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Looking for conformation on my assumptions...

I have come to find the Hue bridge ... is not good (I am being nice)

I only have a handful of Zigbee devices (all hue)

  • LED Strip
  • Motion Detector

I need a few buttons, not sure if to use the Hue or something else (I have flic but the BT integration is a pain w/o a Flic hub)

I am thinking of going with ZHA just to keep things a bit more simple. Am I going down the right path?

sour shadow
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ZHA's not a bad choice

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It's really whether you want something that's part of HA (ZHA) or separate (Z2M)

worldly apex
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I am more for a simple integration.

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so, ZHA it is...

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@sour shadow thanks for the support

late imp
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Last 2-3 months I have been struggling with xiaomi motion sensors going on unavailable. Battery seems to be ok? Anyone experienced this and have figured out a solution?

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keep having to open pwa and repair it

sour shadow
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ZHA? Zigbee2MQTT? deCONZ?

main condor
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General question:

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what would the panel say zha or zigbeemqtt ?

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witch is the best to use with a cc2531 router and cordinator..

obsidian sandalBOT
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The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

What something better? Anything CC2652 based (see here for some) or the current generation EZSP (see here for some).

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '~cc253x' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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Both are good choices. Pick ZHA if you want something built into HA. Pick Z2M if you want something separate.

main condor
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Cool, ive used to use zha, but went over to z2m after OS upgrade in may, but i just think that the devices are really slow on z2m 😦

something separate like ?
something built in like ? 😛

dry fossil
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Like... ZHA or Z2M.

sour shadow
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I'd bet the problem is your stick...

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You did buy the slowest one on the planet after all

main condor
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Yearh that was just the 2 ones i had by my hand at the moment lol..

  • Some times my devices go offline, and after reboot all devices are working fine for some days..
sour shadow
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Known "feature" of that stick

main condor
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oh okay i see, what can be recomended instead of thoes 2 ? got about 45 devices.

sour shadow
main condor
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One thing is a overview, another thing is users experiance..

sour shadow
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The information in that message is based on both...

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Anything CC2652 based

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There's a list of some options linked right there

main condor
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Okay buddy, thx.
Could an idear be to use a ConBee II stick and then the 2 cc2531 as extenders or ?

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Or should i go with conbee 2 stick and drop the cc2531 ?

sour shadow
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Not sure how you got to ConBee from that bot message

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The CC253x make good enough routers though

main condor
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well that link - links to supported devices.
I dont know the other devices only heard people talking about conbee 2 stick..

sour shadow
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Supported sticks for Zigbee2MQTT

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And the one you picked is clearly marked experimental

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Clearly though you're not interested in my advice, so I'll leave you to it

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Good luck

main condor
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Well i go to a forum to talk with people and get their opinion, not to feel like im asking stupid questions and that im to trouble for asking questions and experiance insead of reading a list...

dry fossil
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Your first questions weren't stupid. But you were given answers and kept asking the same questions 🤷‍♂️

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The first 2 are well-recommended.

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Oh, and tube's stuff

main condor
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sure thing, but not everybody does have so much great experiance with all this different devices and incredible options there is to HA and devices.

  • Still trying to learn, so my bad for asking same or a like questions..
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Thank u mono..

dry fossil
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It's okay. We all want to help... just be aware it can be frustrating sometimes when people seem like they're not listening.

main condor
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Sure i totally feel u !

  • And for me it can just be fustrating that i dont have enught knowled yet, to ask a clear question or mabye one that is close to another 🧐
    So just a guy trying to learn knowledeg about this amazing big world 🙂
fresh sandal
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Hello everyone! I'm currently working on creating a ZHA Device Handler for an EVSE project and I got stuck on a silly issue. I was wondering how does the ZHA integration produce entities for a given zigbee device? If I wanted to create my own entity or reuse an existing entity, do I have make modifications to my device handler or is that handled somewhere else?

late imp
mellow geode
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Maybe also have a look at zigpy

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There’s a max of one entity per cluster atm

uneven ruin
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pretty sure its zigpy quirks

fresh sandal
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Wow really? Just one entity per cluster? 😮 Okay, thank you so much for the information. 🙂

vestal wasp
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so i just installed the Nortek Zigbee/Zwave stick. Z-Wave is working great. I am using ZHA, and the tutorial i am following said i should see 2 devices when the configuration is finished. A EZSP and a coordinator. All I see is the Coordinator and I cant seem to bring anything in.
Should there be 2? or was that an update to the Integration that it only shows the coordinator now?

molten linden
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It will just show the coordinator until additional devices are added

vestal wasp
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Hmm. wonder why its not picking anything up.

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nothing in the zigbee logs

gentle flint
# fresh sandal Hello everyone! I'm currently working on creating a ZHA Device Handler for an EV...

This is loaded question. Entities are not produced by zha device handler. In zha folder there are fan.py, sensor.py, light.py, switch.oy etc, those are entities. Entities require channels which are essential an abstraction above Zcl cluster. Zha/core/registries.py contains a mapping of a cluster to entity domain (type of entity) mapping. Just make your device compatible with regular clusters and then you won't need device handler at all

fiery arch
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Hi, In ZHA integration, what is the use of the Global options and update configuration under configure link of ZHA integration tile?
"Enable identify effect when devices join the network"

tropic depot
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A lot of devices support a blink or pulse type effect to identify the device visually

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Enabling that option will issue that command after a successful pairing if the device supports the command

keen jetty
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Hi, do new zigbee devices need to be a child of a controller (zigbee plug) to root thought it. It will zigbee just take that route if it's best anyway.

I can add my contact sensor via main controller but if try add to the plug using add device using this device it always fails. Mostly it picks up the device add tile template for it in discovery page start configuration but then hangs and did nothing

sour shadow
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What software are you using?

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And what stick?

keen jetty
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Sorry ha

sour shadow
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You mean ZHA?

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Or Zigbee2MQTT?

keen jetty
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Yes

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Zha

sour shadow
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And what stick?

keen jetty
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I got the zigbee controller and azigbe plug.

Works fine with controller. The zigbee box. But not plug, child of box

sour shadow
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the zigbee controller

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There's more than one of those on the planet

keen jetty
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The sonoff zigbee bridge

sour shadow
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Ok, so it's probably not a firmware problem then. Maybe somebody else will know

keen jetty
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FYI I got the zigbee plug as the contact sensor in garage keeps losing signal with controller but the tuya plug was fine(obviouslynot zigbee) . I've swapped tuya for zigbee plug so I can attach this sensor to it. To sum up the above info. HA using zha with Sonoff zigbee bridge -> child is zigbee sa-003 uk plug -> contact sensor

azure tinsel
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It's Almost 9 hours ago that I flashed the coordinator to have a static IP. Still no disconnects... Fingers crossed

spice kelp
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can i assume that switching from ZHA to Z2M requires re-pairing every device?

sour shadow
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Yes

spice kelp
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are there any "gotchas" that need to be done before starting the switch? reflashing the stick, resetting devices, etc?

sour shadow
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Not really, Zigbee devices get reset when you pair them anyway.

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Make sure you've got a new pan_id. Pick your channel carefully (the default may not be what you want). Pair in the usual order - spiral out from the coordinator doing the routers first, then the end devices.

spice kelp
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roger that. should all be fine besides the expected pain of re-pairing the hampton bay fan controller 😬

sour shadow
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Yeah, I've got some devices like that - pairing them is ... "fun"

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One I ended up buying a replacement for as it wouldn't reset 🤣

spice kelp
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not like it's working reliably right now anyway 🤷

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it's actually in the same room as a ZW switch that has trouble pairing

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i wonder if the walls are just a metal mesh

weak burrow
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How do you guys deal with devices that are too far from the bridge ? Using some device plugged into wall as "repeater" is suitable only if its from one company right ?

sour shadow
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Well, routers are the way, and ... not if you're using ZHA/Zigbee2MQTT/deCONZ

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I have a mix of CR Smart Home, Xiaomi, Konke, Develco, and Hue end devices, and my routers are DIY, Gledopto, Ikea, and Innr

weak burrow
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How did you make the routers ? Is it some kind of flasing like tasmota ?

sour shadow
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Flash a CC2652/CC253x based stick with router firmware

weak burrow
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Maybe I was trying to find it with wrong name. I did not know it is called router.

sour shadow
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There's some good guides in the pinned messages

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Specifically one about how the mesh works, but there's other relevant ones too

weak burrow
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I was just confused when one of my friends told me that it does not work with mixed devices.

sour shadow
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Well, that's true if you're using a hub

weak burrow
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Will it be that bad to use CC2531 if its going to be routing only one device ?

sour shadow
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Nah, but if it's got only the internal antenna range may not be great

weak burrow
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I know that I was warned to not use it, because its old crap.

sour shadow
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As a coordinator, yes

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It's not an amazing router, but it's an entirely functional one

weak burrow
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Oh, do you recommend to use better then the regular 3dBm antena ?

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If its worth it.

sour shadow
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Well, first work out what problem you're trying to solve, rather than just throwing a big antenna on

weak burrow
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Like i just need few meters to bridge. So no need to use big antena for me.

sour shadow
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Then a normal antenna should be fine

weak burrow
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its like 15meters in visible area.

sour shadow
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15 meter gap or an area about 4 meters across?

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Depends too on what's in the way - 15 meters of air is no big deal. That same distance with lots of walls is a big deal.

weak burrow
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Its just air. The wall is made of concrete so I need to have router.

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Router outside, to pick up the signal from inside. There is coverage but not all the way to the end device.

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It will be fine. I will try 🙂

weak burrow
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Thanks for the advice!

tacit fulcrum
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is there any way i can prevent ZHA from talking on all serial ports it has access to when HA starts? i don't need the integration at all, but can't find where i can disable it

sour shadow
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If you didn't enable it, then it's not enabled. If I look in configuration -> Info under Integrations I don't have zha listed

tacit fulcrum
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i don't have it listed their either

sour shadow
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What makes you think that ZHA is what's probing all the serial ports then?

tacit fulcrum
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yet it still accesses my serial ports:

2021-08-25 21:53:44 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy_cc.uart] Bytes received: b"unique_id: 'lightslightrgbww_cil"
2021-08-25 21:53:44 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy_cc.uart] Bytes received: b"'\n  supported_color_modes: COLOR"
2021-08-25 21:53:44 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy_cc.uart] Bytes received: b'_MODE_COLD_WARM_WHITE\n  supporte'
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afaik ZHA is the only integration using zigpy 🙂

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this is a clean config from latest HA dev

sour shadow
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See if you get it in a production release, not dev

tacit fulcrum
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sure, give me a sec

molten linden
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it's has to do with the new USB discovery that was added

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is my guess

tacit fulcrum
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hmm it doesn't reproduce on 2021.8.8

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but that sucks as I was using dev as I have to test a PR

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guess it's time to report an issue then

molten linden
mellow geode
tacit fulcrum
mellow geode
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oh

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interesting lol

mellow geode
tacit fulcrum
sour shadow
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I'd open an issue if it's causing issues

tacit fulcrum
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yeah working on it

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let's hope this one gets more response than my last couple of issues...

mellow geode
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Does it actually cause any issues? Or is the only "issue" the INFO messages in the log?

tacit fulcrum
mellow geode
tacit fulcrum
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yeah just found that as well, thanks 🙂

mellow geode
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huh, looks like you were 2 minutes faster than Otto

tacit fulcrum
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hahah this is funny

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especially because the reason I'm running dev is because I needed to test his PR

mellow geode
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I'm sure other people will complain about the issue in #beta soon.
will probably be solved relatively fast

solid hollow
mellow geode
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Yes, that would turn on ZHA debug logs (after having restarted Home Assistant).
About your remotes, can you check if you get any zha_events from them.

solid hollow
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I'm not currently -> I'm trying to figure out why and was hoping the debug would show me why - they do pair and they do "reform" if i move them to a differnet part of the house - the netowrk gets updated

mellow geode
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There should be some messages in the logs (when you have debug logs on) when you "rotate" the remote

solid hollow
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Thanks! i shall investigate after a reboot of HASS

mellow geode
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Note: you can also switch to debug logs without restarting Home Assistant.

vernal scaffold
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How can I tell if the ZHA integration OTA has updated an ikea device? I've enabled the updates per documentation in my configuration.yaml, but I don't see any evidence of anything happening.

mellow geode
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I think you need to have debug logs on to see if an update is happening.

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Check the sw_build_id in the Basic cluster to see the current firmware version

vernal scaffold
uneven ruin
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I think you have to trigger it manually

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(at least you used to)

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Config > Integrations > ZHA > Device > OTA Cluster > image_notify

mellow geode
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If it's a battery-powered device. Do that and then click a button on it (or activate or whatever, so it actually receives the message)

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It should then ask the ZHA if there's an update. If yes, it should start to upgrade.

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You should see that in the logs when enabling debug logs.

worldly apex
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Can anyone provide a recommendation for an Zigbee2MQTT adapter. I am not familiar with any of the vendor websites I see the adapters being sold off of from the zigbee2mqtt.io website. Also, I am not sure what is available with the supply chain shortages.

sinful swift
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CC2652P2 coordinators from here: https://www.tubeszb.com/ Join the waiting list on the front page. Not sure what the coordinator delays are like but it only took a couple of days for a router order I placed to be filled.

modern sleet
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Hi guys!

You are my only hope: I have a Mi Smart Plug (Xiaomi) and I was able to add it to HA via ZHA. But no matter what, I cannot get the "smartenergy_metering" sensor part working. It always shows "unknown" and that's it.

Any ideas?
I tried resetting it, adding it again, and also tried my way around HA configs (GUI)...

I don't know what do to any more 😦

Thanks! 🙂

molten linden
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Waiting list wait at tubeszb should be short. I was away last week and am getting caught up.

solid hollow
worldly apex
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Sounds good, I will check out tubeszb. Thanks!

molten linden
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any questions.. i'm the tube in tubeszb 😎

solid hollow
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oh duh! 🙂

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Does your stuff support deconz? or just zha/z2m

molten linden
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Just zha/z2m only the conbee sticks support deconz

sinful swift
solid hollow
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I'm contemplating upgrading off my gocontrol stick ... but so far its working ok i think....

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Whats the main difference between EFR32 and CC2652p

molten linden
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CC2652 is more flexible, as it is well supported in both z2m and zha. EFR32 is best with zha, but has alpha (and not really moving) support with z2m.

solid hollow
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Well then thats a very simple answer 🙂

molten linden
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spec wise the EFR32 Series2 and CC2652 are similar, the EFR32 has a bit more memory.

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The EFR32 Series1 (which I won't have at least until next spring) is a beast with more than 2x (256k) the memory of the other 2 radios (96k & ~80k).

solid hollow
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awesome ... maybe i'll wait for one of those guys to come out

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i keep going back between if i prefer zigbee or zwave.... I'm not a huge fan of ZHA so lately zwave has been winnign

worldly apex
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just joined your wait list... now I will wait 🙂

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Hope I picked the right thing for Zigbee to HA via Eth.

muted nest
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are there any advantages of zigbee plugs over wifi plugs if both are run locally? (besides lower idle power usage for zigbee plugs)

dry fossil
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Zigbee stuff just works. The WiFi crap often uses proprietary hubs/apps.

analog vapor
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Question
I have HA in a RPi4 with MQTT broker running. But z2m is in another pc i had laying around.
z2m frontend is working, but i'm not able to access it.
I guess i need to configure it, but can find where to do this. Has anyone done this before?

muted nest
rocky mauve
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In the visualisation function of the zha integration, if a device has a red line / link, it is poor strength / quality isn’t it?

dry fossil
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I read that anything in red meant the LQI is below 128, My map looks like this
From the first post I could find (I don't use ZHA).

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That said, 128 is still fine. Hell, 10 would be fine if the messages are still getting through. LQI doesn't really matter.

sour shadow
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Out of 65 devices I have, only 5 have an LQI of 128 or above

rocky mauve
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Hmm. I have some hue devices I took off hue hub and put in zha which periodically disconnect. I’m assuming bad links that drop? I’m talking bulbs in almost every room, a hue dimmer switch in each and motion sensor in a few. I put them all on zha to improve the mesh (originally only motion sensors were zha. But what I find strange these two dropping devices, they are literally 1m away with line of sight to a 3 bulb ceiling fixture with permanent power.. but they connect through a bulb 5 times as far, through the floor and have red links.

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Why not those bulbs right next to them?!

dry fossil
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No-one knows. The mesh has a mind of its own.

rocky mauve
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So what is the point of the mesh if the end points still only connect one way and if that connection breaks they just drop off?

sour shadow
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Well, it's up to the manufacturer to actually support stuff - welcome the the wonderful world of Zigbee

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Some have their end devices pick new parents, others, like Xiaomi, don't

rocky mauve
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What about hue? Do you know?

sour shadow
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I don't know about their end devices

dry fossil
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Each node will use what it thinks it should. We don't know the logic by which they make that decision. In theory, that means the mesh is self-healing... with exceptions like Tinkerer just mentioned.

rocky mauve
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Presumably my experience suggests no

sour shadow
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But mostly you can assume that manufacturers mostly know more about RF than you do

rocky mauve
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What do you mean?

dry fossil
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That you're asking what the point is, when the engineers that designed it know the point.

rocky mauve
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What?

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Lol

dry fossil
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As much as we appreciate it can be frustrating when things don't work as expected, unfortunately Zigbee stuff is 'black box'. You can't see the brains inside.

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You just have to trust that the boffins that built it know it better than you do.

rocky mauve
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I’m asking what is the point in adding repeating bulbs in every single room, if my devices still drop off the network.

dry fossil
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Well you could try other devices as your repeaters. Maybe the bulbs don't repeat well.

rocky mauve
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It literally isnt working, so why are you saying trust in them they know more

dry fossil
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Hue has some weird protocols, IIRC. ZLL or whatever they call it.

sour shadow
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Hue bulbs, or other brand bulbs?

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Not all bulbs are Zigbee routers, and some are crappy ones

dry fossil
rocky mauve
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I disagree

dry fossil
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Disagree all you want. It's doing what it's designed to, just that doesn't align with your expectations.

rocky mauve
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I had this setup on a hue hub for years, never had a device drop. On zha I now gte drops

dry fossil
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Try other repeaters. Troubleshoot the behaviour.

rocky mauve
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Dude thats what I am here for - but all you say is trust who made it you dont know rf?

dry fossil
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ZHA isn't responsible for maintaining the mesh. The devices find their parents on their own.

rocky mauve
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Literally most unhelpful response I could imagine

dry fossil
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Good luck. 👋

rocky mauve
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No one getting anywhere with, you dont know rf, the device manufacture does thanks for coming lol.

rocky mauve
mellow geode
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Are you using Hue bulbs with or without Bluetooth that experience the disconnect issue?

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Does restarting Home Assistant or replugging the stick "fix it" temporarily?

hollow shuttle
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Hello, I'm new to Home Assistant for a month now. A start to have variety of peripherals, it works great. Today I tried to use an HEIMAN doorbell button. It is just a switch on battery. It is correctly paired by zigbee controller, has two entities, a battery level and a binary_sensor. The problem is that the binary sensor entity always reports 'OFF' even when i push the button. It seems to create a communication as it refresh the "last seen" attribute on current time. Do you have any clue to try to debug this ? Thanks

dry fossil
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If it's battery powered, it's probably not a switch. It'll be handled as a button - so it sends events, not state.

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The behaviour you describe sounds normal. What are you trying to do with the information?

hollow shuttle
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Yes it's a pulse, juste a push button. Trying to grap this state, or event in this case and trigger a switch to a carillon to make the sound (or not, just a notification under some conditions). The switch works corretly though. I struggle to capture the event when the button is pushed.

dry fossil
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If the last seen attribute changes, the state did too, even if it was only very briefly.

hollow shuttle
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But in the entity history there is no new entry it is normal ?

sour shadow
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If the state didn't change, yes

dry fossil
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All that matters is that HA knows something happened. Depending on what you want to do with that information, you have the options I gave you above.

hollow shuttle
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OK, thanks i will try to catch the event instead of the state of the entity

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have a nice evening

dusk thistle
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Can we use the Philips bridge to create scenes for bulbs that are in HA on a separate ZigBee coordinator?

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I really enjoyed the prebuilt hue scenes and the ability to create a scene from images but moved all my stuff over to HA to build a more reliable ZigBee network.

dry fossil
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The scenes with Hue are akin to the automations in HA. If your bulbs aren't connected to the bridge, its 'brains' can't do anything with them anymore and you'll have to reproduce those behaviours in HA instead.

dusk thistle
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I figured that was the case. Thanks!

hollow shuttle
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I can help ton debug this device if someone has technical skills

rocky mauve
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I only added the bulbs to zha because the message then was get more repeaters. So now I am +11? bulbs (showing in the integration at least as routers), and 2 x tradfri wall sockets which are routers. 3 of which are within a metre of these devices going offline and the tradfri are only a 3-5 meters away (although one behind an internal plaster board wall). So I don’t see how lack of routers / adding more routers will help, maybe I am doing something wrong.

rocky mauve
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I guess should also mention this was all fine till I swapped out my conbee (using zha but started showing usb disconnecting and reconnecting over and over) for an elelabs. Thats when disconnects started I figured as not as powerful as conbee. Adding routers helped for sure, but eventually these devices still drop it seems.

left shale
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Hi, having an issue with either mqtt, zigbee2mqtt or HA. Whenever i reboot, the state of one of my zigbee contact sensors goes from reporting on (the state its at) to off then back on. This triggers automations and it quite annoying. Retain is on for the sensor. Any ideas?

dry fossil
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To off or to unknown?

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It's common for sensors in HA to be 'unknown' until it has a chance to load up the last known state.

left shale
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In the history graph its reported as off, but in the logbook it just says "Was opened" with no indication of closing

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i would expect "unavailable" but it doesnt do that

dry fossil
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Check the debug trace for the automation, look at the details for the trigger - it'll tell you both the previous state (from_state) and the new state (to_state). The former will let you know if it transitioned from 'off' or something else.

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If it's happening after you reboot HA, I'd expect it to be HA that's the 'issue'. You could confirm that by watching the relevant topic on your broker using something like MQTT Explorer to see what happens around that time.

left shale
dry fossil
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I'd still suggest the same debugging, even if it means making a new (basic) automation to be able to see the debug trace I mentioned. Once you know what's going on, you can decide how to work around it.

left shale
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Alright. I can try that. Thanks

dry fossil
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If it's what I suspect it is, you may end up having to get clever to count those events. We'll see when you get that far 😂

left shale
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Yea so nothing i can see in mqtt explorer, except for the status of HA changing from online - offline - online. Automation that i made just doesn't trigger, prolly cus its happening before the automation component loads

dry fossil
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Odd. I'd expect the automation to fire - people have had issues just like yours where weird things happen on reboot. In that case... you probably want to rethink how you're using #integrations-archived to track the total. You need a way to only increment the count when it's a genuine transition - which might mean using an input number and an automation that increments it (and something to clear it back down again periodically.

left shale
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yea hmm, annoying. Thanks

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ugh, same thing happens with my other door sensor. However, it doesn't do it when the door is closed. Only when open. Its like there is a default state of off or something

stray wolf
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i'm getting a usb zzh adapter soon. am i able to move all my hue lights off my hue hub and do them all adhoc with this? is there even any benefit to this?

sour shadow
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You'll want to plan to build a solid mesh, which means starting with devices nearer the ZZH and spiraling outwards

hollow shuttle
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Hi, I experience a strange behavior. I have a Ikea ON/OFF switch working well with an Ikea LED driver. They are both devices into ZHA. I recently added a NodOn SIN-4-1-20, it is basicly a relay commanded wirelessly or by a physical switch where you can retrieve the state. The relay works well, but it is commanded by the Ikea ON/OFF as soon as they are both into ZHA. I tried to reset them, re-include shearch a bining, group... I have no clue why they are linked, as soon the ON/OFF is removed from ZHA, the link between them is broken. But I broke the link to the LED driver too. What can I do ? Thanks

wild plaza
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Does anyone know if the Sonoff zigbee USB dongle is supported out-of-the-box or do i need to update the firmware ? I have used it for a while but in my case my sonoff door sensor is just working for a few days, and the sonoff temp sensor is not working at all. I can connect to it but no data is exchanged between dongle and sensor. Is there a good fix for this or is best to just buy a better more supported dongle ?

hollow shuttle
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Hello, I read during my searches people who falshes this dongle and reporting it working great after

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I have not a clear answer, but i think this do this because of compatibility issues

hollow shuttle
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It is like they are binned without adding them to HA, there is maybe something in the zigbee description of the device ikea that inputs the NodOn relay

mellow geode
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Also, Gen1 and Gen2 Hue lights (pre rich colors) are said to have routing issues. I’ve never used lights these old though, so I can’t say

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The "Bluetooth" Hue lights are the best for me: never disconnect, send attribute reports, and are Zigbee 3.0

gentle flint
slate cairn
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@gentle flint do you plan to add siren entity support to ZHA?

wild plaza
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Thanks for answers! I have now migrated over to Zigbee-2-MQTT. Now my usb dongle works, but only for my Door/Windows sensor. I get my temp sensor into z2m but not trough to HA andMQTT. I only have these two devices as a test and to see if i should replace my wifi light bulbs with ikea ones. I just bought a ZZH Electro Lama stick. So ill test this more when it arrieves. The temp sensor might just not work right anyways

stable dew
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How is zigbee's link quality intepreted? Various devices give me their singal thrength in 'lqi', but I don't know if larger number equals better or worse signal

sour shadow
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0 == bad
255 = amazing/telling fibs

stable dew
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fair enough, thanks

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128 is 50% good or does it use some different scale?

sour shadow
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The number is not something you should worry too much about, different manufacturers/chipsets work it out differently - worry more about it working

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128 may be great or 50% of best or something completely different

stable dew
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ok thanks

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not really too worried, everything works as expected and my devices are 50-80 mostly

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just was wondering how it works

tropic depot
slate cairn
earnest hinge
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Any recommendations for no neutral switches?

dry fossil
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Country?

earnest hinge
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Germany

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In my old apartmenmt i just removed the switches and connected the live wires using vago terminals and then double sided taped battery powered switches/remotes over the gangboxes. But now in the house id rather have functional light switches that would work even if something is wrong with my homeassistant/zigbee network

junior viper
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Hi all, anyone encountered sort of the same error for Z2MQTT? Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-08-27 21:34:53: Publish 'set' 'state' to 'Fåtöljen' failed: 'Error: Command 0x588e81fffe3ea537/1 genOnOff.on({}, {"sendWhenActive":false,"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received)'

sour shadow
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What is it you're trying to control?

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I see those from time to time when a device isn't responding

junior viper
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Statens and on/off for Trådfri devices using Z2MQTT Web If.

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States*

sour shadow
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Do they never work?

junior viper
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Mostly, but the point is that I cannot turn any Zig-device on or off since 1hr back. Restarted HA, restarted mqtt broker as well as Z2M

earnest hinge
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So basicaly iam wondering if any of those things are any good. I heard the capacitors you need to install make annoying noises. There seem to be some that dont require that.Would appreciate any feedback from people using that kind of switches

violet dagger
junior viper
sour shadow
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I'd guess that you've got mesh health issues

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Try re-pairing the router devices?

junior viper
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Could be.. re-pair as in reset every device?

sour shadow
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Put Z2M into pairing mode, follow the standard pairing process

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Start nearest the coordinator, work outwards

junior viper
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Got it, thanks. Guess it’s already in pairing as Permit join isnt disabled

sour shadow
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It'll auto-disable after 5 minutes if you enable it

earnest hinge
violet dagger
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warning, they're clicky 😛

junior viper
obsidian sandalBOT
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@junior viper When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

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sour shadow
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What coordinator stick?

junior viper
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ConBee of course. Thinking of melt it in my oven

sour shadow
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To be fair, I don't think you're alone there

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There's no errors in the logs about it?

junior viper
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I know….

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Not more than what I pasted

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Same error, same messages as for all other bulbs or devices except id’s and so on

sour shadow
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I'd pull the stick, wait 30 seconds, put it back in and restart Z2M

junior viper
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I’ll try, thx

sour shadow
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Best case it clears the problem, worst case it doesn't

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If it doesn't clear it, that try setting Z2M's log level to info or even debug

junior viper
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Wow.. pulled the plug, restarted

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Changed my yaml from permit_join: true to false and restarted. Voilà.

oak canopy
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question i just found out that zwave != zigbee, so what device do you recommend for zigbee controllers?

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id like to use it with my pi

obsidian sandalBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

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oak canopy
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thx

sour shadow
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The other choice is Zigbee2MQTT (separate from HA) or ZHA (internal to HA)

minor atlas
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Trying to setup a sonoff zigbee bridge that has tasmota on it and I get an error: Could not parse JSON content: /config/.storage/zha.storage Can anyone help?

oak canopy
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ok i bought a usb version of the cc2652P zigbee adapter, waiting for it in the mail now.

mighty river
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I will receive my conbee 2 tomorrow, on internet i read i need to use a usb extention cable, does length care? should i take 1 meter or 2/3 meters?

oak canopy
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I have no idea about the conbee but i do know that 3 meters is fine for usb extensions, it's when you start doing 10+ feet that you start having signal issues.

dry fossil
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50-100cm from sources of interference is plenty.

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Sources of interference include USB ports too, hence the need for the cable.

hoary crest
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how about the raspbee which is mounted directly on the GPIOs?

oak canopy
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going say i don't think gpio has all that much in error checking like usb has so i would keep it real short.

hoary crest
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yah i'm having it mounted directly to the GPIOs, just wondering if it would have signal interference problems too ... range is pretty ok here, reaching devices about 15m away through 2 concrete walls

left shale
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What do people here use as a replacement of hue sync? Recently replaced the hue hub from my setup with zigbee2mqtt.

velvet steeple
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Guys is there anything point to point laser motion sensor like beam ? To protect a wall so if someone jump on wall and motion will get detected? Wall lenth is about 50 feet

violet dagger
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Not commercially available as a ZigBee device

humble merlin
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i'm just getting started with home assistant and zigbee2mqtt. i bought a CC2652 sniffer and flashed it have it plugged in and it looked like it was working but now i get a 'bad gateway' error when clicking on the add-on. the log shows error starting zigbee-herdsman and then that failed to start zigbee.. can anyone walk me through this?

violet dagger
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Flashed with what?

humble merlin
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zigbee2mqtt coordinator firmware

violet dagger
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There's 20 versions of that

humble merlin
violet dagger
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The error log would show why it failed too

humble merlin
violet dagger
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That is fine

humble merlin
# violet dagger That is fine

Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-08-28 16:25:17: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-08-28 16:25:17: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-08-28 16:25:17: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/FAQ.html#help-zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-08-28 16:25:17: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-08-28 16:25:17: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:102:27)
at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:123:29)
at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.js:67:27)
at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.js:106:27)
at start (/app/index.js:94:5)

violet dagger
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If you set the proper port in Zigbee2MQTT config replug the stick and retry

humble merlin
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i mean i think i did? i'm not totally sure about this

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how do i confirm that?

violet dagger
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Open configuration.yaml and check

humble merlin
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sorry totally new to HA. where do i find the configuration.yaml file i think i found it. checking it out

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restarted but still giving an error as follows

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2021-08-28T08:33:35.792Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter Failed to validate path: 'Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT'
2021-08-28T08:33:35.808Z zigbee-herdsman:controller:log Starting with options '{"network":{"networkKeyDistribute":false,"networkKey":[1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,13],"panID":6754,"extendedPanID":[221,221,221,221,221,221,221,221],"channelList":[11]},"serialPort":{"rtscts":false,"path":"/dev/ttyUSB0"},"databasePath":"/config/zigbee2mqtt/database.db","databaseBackupPath":"/config/zigbee2mqtt/database.db.backup","backupPath":"/config/zigbee2mqtt/coordinator_backup.json","adapter":{"disableLED":false,"concurrent":null,"delay":null}}'
2021-08-28T08:33:35.813Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:zStack:znp:log Opening SerialPort with /dev/ttyUSB0 and {"baudRate":115200,"rtscts":false,"autoOpen":false}
2021-08-28T08:33:35.848Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:zStack:znp:log Serialport opened

humble merlin
violet dagger
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Nope, never seen that error

opaque pike
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Anyone here that have tried pairing Aqara Temp sensors with deCONZ? I tried using the option "Other" but it dosnt show up even if i put the sensor right next to the Conbee stick? It worked flawless when i was using ZHA so it should be able to pair as far as i can see

silver stump
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Hey there,
I need some help, cause I experiance an issus that I can't overcome bymyself 😦
I use ZHA at my ha raspberry with zzh stick.
I have 6 zigbee device so far, all of them from ikea, one socket, one led psu, two rectangular small switch with on/off button, and one circular switch with 5 buttons.
I bought 3 addtional device yesterday, one circular knob, one small on/off switch and one outlet.
I added them via devices --> zigbee cordinator --> add device via this device, it went okay, all off them appier in my device list but, it looks like they don't communicate with the HA server.
So if i toggle the outlet, it happends nothing, if I check node-red debug window where the previusly installed switched event are visible, the new ones are not.
How can I over come this issue?
Thanks!

dawn sable
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Can someone point me to documentation for how to interpret the LQI numbers / line colors in the ZHA network visualization? The more I look at it the more it seems like they are just completely arbitrary 😬

violet dagger
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pretty much since each manufacturer has their own interpretation of LQI

dawn sable
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So is there a database somewhere that the colors are derived from?

violet dagger
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what colors?

dawn sable
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The line between nodes in the visualization. There are numbers on each line and some of the lines themselves are colored.

austere patio
silver stump
austere patio
azure tinsel
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But to answer your question they should pair but the problem is that you don't see anything when it's not fully configured. You should open phoscon and pair it. It's almost certain that in the map the device pops up but it's still not fully configured. Keep pairing it again and again until it shows in deconz. And even then it could happen that it takes another 10 pairs before battery level shows up

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Welcome to deconz....

silver stump
hexed coral
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Hi all. I just moved from ZHA to zigbee2mqtt (I'm on a CC2531). Re-pairing all devices was a piece of cake and it feels like the lights are more responsive when toggling from HA, I have a massive delay (3 s) for switch actions to arrive (tested with the IKEA dimmer and hue dimmer switch). has anyone had a similar issue and a solution for it? switch responsiveness was much better with ZHA

sour shadow
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The mesh may still be settling down - it could take a day or so for things to stabilise

hexed coral
silver stump
sour shadow
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Unlikely

left shale
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Does anyone know of good zigbee air quality sensors? Looking to get one to monitor c02 in the air.

uneven ruin
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are the switches bound directly to the lights?

hexed coral
azure tinsel
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I migrated to z2mqtt a week ago and can't really say it's fast. It feels like some devices go in a deep sleep when not active for some time which gives the delay for me. I have to figure out what is causing this. With my nortek stick on zha it was allot faster. But that stick was in another place in our home so I'm gonna try that first

humble merlin
silver stump
foggy ice
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Hi,

Having issues with the 2nd part of the flashing of zigbee bridge
tried ncp-uart-sw_6.7.8_115200.ota and ncp-uart-nsw_6.7.9_115200
Tried with Tasmota 9.1 and 9.5
3 different bridges all ranging in age from a year till recent
Can't get the zigbee to start, and it looks like I can't flash the bridge
I have flashed these units before so unsure if something significant has changed I can't find anything.

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Sonoff Bridge

humble merlin
violet dagger
foggy ice
# violet dagger are you following the flashing guide exactly?

yes I am ... I thought I may have broken something with first 2.. got a new unit and exactly the same issue.
There aren't exactly to many steps involved.
https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Sonoff_ZBBridge.html

Some said they just did this several times and it eventually worked
Reset configuration, configure wifi
enter the following command: Backlog Weblog 3; so65 1; Module 75
upload the chipset firmware.

Doesn't look like the upload process is completing successfully.
Watching the console not getting successful or failure message
the upload page doesn't say successful or failed it takes me to 192.168.87.60/u2 (not a valid link)
tried IE and chrome same issue.

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10:21:14.236 HTP: Firmware Upgrade
10:21:14.763 ZbEZSPReceived: time-out, discarding 00000000000000
10:21:16.049 ZbEZSPReceived: time-out, discarding 00000000000000
10:21:16.252 HTP: Main Menu
10:21:17.110 HTP: Console
10:21:17.300 ZbEZSPReceived: time-out, discarding 00000000000000
10:21:18.054 ZIG: Resetting EZSP device
10:21:18.516 ZbEZSPReceived: time-out, discarding 00000000000000
10:21:19.715 ZbEZSPReceived: time-out, discarding 00000000000000
10:21:20.989 ZbEZSPReceived: time-out, discarding 0000000000000000000000000000
10:21:22.207 ZbEZSPReceived: time-out, discarding 0000000000000000000000000000
10:21:23.226 ZIG: timeout, goto label 99
10:21:23.228 RSL: RESULT = {"ZbState":{"Status":99,"Message":"Abort"}}
10:21:23.229 ZIG: Abort
10:21:23.229 ZIG: Stopping (99)

violet dagger
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and how did you download the firmware

foggy ice
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download button

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used that direct link

foggy ice
violet dagger
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No

foggy ice
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Is it first or Backlog Weblog 3; so65 1; Module 75
or ncp-uart-sw ota upgrade first

violet dagger
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you need the device in Tasmota ZbBridge mode which means you need to set Module 75 first, then do the ota

violet dagger
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here's what i got as a reply from one of the devs: "The MCU is not in upgrade mode. It sends raws of zeroes which is a behavior I have never seen. We can also suspect a faulty hardware"

uneven ruin
opaque pike
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This might be because i dont know anything about docker. But can someone tell me how to access the OTAU folder in the deCONZ addon when im not using Docker? My HA runs on a rpi4

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or just point me in the right direction because everything i google seems to relate to running it in Docker

hexed coral
uneven ruin
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the mesh can do weird things sometimes

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sometimes its best to just fully remove from the interface and do a factory reset then repair. that can shake out some bugs if its binding badly after several attempts

hexed coral
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restarted z2m. devices are back but slow again. z2m seems to be fast because I just downloaded an mqtt montitor to my laptop and messages are broadcasted instantly. so the delay must be from HA picking up the messages. i actually love the added layers (z2m, broker, etc) for debugging purposes

hexed coral
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So fun observation: When my sensors (dimmer switches and aqara stuff) are exposed to HA through the MQTT integration, both the mqtt messages and the state changes that I observe in nodeRed are delayed by ~3 s while the mqtt messages on my monitor are instantaneous. As soon as I remove the sensors from the integration (i.e. they don't get tranlated to a binary_sensor), the mqtt messages in nodeRed are instantaneous (as they are in the monitor). So as long as the delay persists, I'll be using the mqtt messages in nodeRed directly instead of the binary_sensor state changes

mighty river
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Hi,
I hope this is the right place!
I am in my first steps with Home Assistant. Currently trying to include my first ZigBee sensors and Danfoss Ally heating thermostats.

I have Zigbee2mqtt installed with the Supervisor and one Xiaomi temperature / humidity sensor and one Danfoss Ally thermostat connected over two Ikea TRADFRI Signal Repeater.

Now I want to change the friendly names of the sensors / devices to something more sensible for humans. But the ZigBee2MQTT devices settings page friendly name field is greyed out and it's not possible to change the names.

I only found this https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zigbee2mqtt-friendly-name-workflow/132205/25 so far. Sounds sensible, but I can't figure out how to make the friendly name field edible.

Any tips on this? Thanks in advance!

sour shadow
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You need the little pencil in the box icon

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On the left

unknown.png
mighty river
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Ah, out there in the list?

sour shadow
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Or on the device page - but not the place you're currently looking

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You can change it in About, but not Settings

mighty river
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😄 Ok, I have to get into the user experience!
Of course it worked.
Thanks for pointing out!
Have a great evening!

silver wing
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Hi all, we just finished setting up all of our zigbee light bulbs. According to HA we have 56 devices with 71 entities (some being groups). It seems like either HA or Google is having a hard time keeping up. We're able to control lights individually but if I say something like "Turn off all lights" it causes Google to eventually say there was an issue with 25 lights and just spins. Then HA either misses some lights or it takes a long time to turn them on/off. Sometimes the state breaks in HA and it doesn't know if they're on or off. Should I be able to control that many devices at once? Is this a limitation of ZHA, HA or my stick? Can I have it rebuild the network somehow since I've added some new lights in just today?

sour shadow
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The problem is you're sending 50+ messages at the same time

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The simplest fix is to use Zigbee groups to expose fewer entities to Google - such as one per room

silver wing
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We’ll, I’ve grouped a bunch of them. For example kitchen light has 6 bulbs, living room has 4, etc. to google it’s only 25 lights in total. Less than that actually because 5 of those are smart switches

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I’ve grouped as many as I can anyways. Oh but I wonder if I’ve confused it with some groups. For example I have like stairs lights (1 at the top and 1 at the bottom) and the upstairs lighrs which is double dipping in some, including only 1 of the stairs lights. I should probably turn that into a scene instead

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So upstairs is loft, stairs and hallway. But then it’s also trying to control those groups individually too

dry fossil
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HA groups or Zigbee groups? They're not the same concept.

silver wing
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Zigbee, done through ZHa

calm valve
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I have tried to install Zigbee2mqtt and get it working with Slaesh.
I addressed it to the wrong USB port in the installation however so it isn't starting up.

sour shadow
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Then change the port?

calm valve
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Well, I think I assigned the wrong ID really, as opposed to the port.

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Used /dev/ttyACM0 as opposed to /dev/ttyUSB0

sour shadow
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Find the /dev/serial/by-id path on the host

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Then map that to /dev/ttyACM0 in your container

calm valve
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So map::
usb-Silicon_Labs_slae.sh_cc2652rb_stick_-_slaesh_s_iot_stuff_00_12_4B_00_23_93_2D_A5-if00-port0 to what input already?

dry fossil
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If you're using a container, you'd put that long path on the left and basically any valid path on the right, since the one on the right becomes what the app inside the container looks for.

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For me, my Compose file contains this:

      - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0:/dev/ttyUSB0```
And Z2M just looks for `/dev/ttyUSB0`
calm valve
mighty river
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Hi, I'm at a standstill doing research over research. Maybe i'm over complicating this so I'm asking anyone here for advice. sonoff vs Aqara door/window sensors. Plus of course I'm in need of the controller stick like conbee or others . I have a Pi4 with already Aeotec usb zwave controller

sour shadow
#

Sonoff blobnauseated

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There's a lot of posts about people regretting buying those

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As for controller...

obsidian sandalBOT
#

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Command '.pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
mighty river
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you are confirming what I'm reading but then there's always those other posts that show they work ok.

sour shadow
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If the stars align then I'm sure they do, but ... do you feel lucky

mighty river
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nah! hence why I'm here. Googled...read....read...leaning towards Aqara...confirming with my post here 🙂 THanks

sour shadow
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I've got a stack of Aqara, other than them being Zigbee 1.2 I've got no real complaints

mighty river
#

but I do like my sonoff's mini. Thanks for the quick reply. Really helpful. I've got some cash to burn now 🙂 My goal is full house alarm system integration with windows and door sensor.

calm valve
#

What am I doing wrong here?

sudo docker run \-it \-v $(pwd)/data:/app/data \--device=usb-Silicon_Labs_slae.sh_cc2652rb_stick_-_slaesh_s_iot_stuff_00_12_4B_00_23_93_2D_A5-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB0
bash: ../../ttyUSB0: Permission denied

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Not putting in the device path before entering it... 🤷🏼‍♂️

sour shadow
# 
--device=usb-Silicon_Labs_slae.sh_cc2652rb_stick_-_slaesh_s_iot_stuff_00_12_4B_00_23_93_2D_A5-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB0

That's very not right

# 
--device=usb-Silicon_Labs_slae.sh_cc2652rb_stick_-_slaesh_s_iot_stuff_00_12_4B_00_23_93_2D_A5-if00-port0:/dev/ttyUSB0
#

Though, honestly, Docker Compose is your friend

calm valve
#

Yes, please excuse my inability to code.

#

Now it's telling me no such device or directory...

#

but it's in USB devices

sour shadow
#

What's the full error?

calm valve
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Error response from daemon: error gathering device information while adding custom device "usb-Silicon_Labs_slae.sh_cc2652rb_stick_-_slaesh_s_iot_stuff_00_12_4B_00_23_93_2D_A5-if00-port0": no such file or directory. ERRO[0006] error waiting for container: context canceled

sour shadow
#

Ah yes, you didn't specify the path, did you

#

So when I copied it, no path there either

calm valve
#

sudo docker run \-it \-v $(pwd)/data:/app/data \--device=usb-Silicon_Labs_slae.sh_cc2652rb_stick_-_slaesh_s_iot_stuff_00_12_4B_00_23_93_2D_A5-if00-port0:/dev/ttyUSB0 \-e TZ=Europe/London \-v /run/udev:/run/udev:ro \--privileged=true \koenkk/zigbee2mqtt
This is the command I'm entering...?

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Is the path not /dev/ttyUSB0?

sour shadow
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It has no idea where usb-Silicon_Labs_slae... is

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You have to specify the full path, which is likely to be /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_slae...

calm valve
#

Right

#

It didn't work again.

# 
sudo docker run \-it \-v $(pwd)/data:/app/data \--device=/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_slae.sh_cc2652rb_stick_-_slaesh_s_iot_stuff_00_12_4B_00_23_93_2D_A5-if00-port0:/dev/ttyUSB0 \-e TZ=Europe/London \-v /run/udev:/run/udev:ro \--privileged=true \koenkk/zigbee2mqtt
obsidian sandalBOT
#

To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks. Here's an example

Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

For over 15 lines you must use a code share site such as https://www.codepile.net/ (pick YAML for the language) or https://paste.debian.net/ (pick YAML for the language).

Command '~format' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
#

It would also help if you shared the actual error

#

If that's a single line you should remove all the \ characters

calm valve
#

Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0'

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I didn't even mention ttyACM0 in that command...?

sour shadow
#

Where is that error coming from?

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Docker?

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Zigbee2MQTT?

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A passing whale?

calm valve
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Zigbee2mqtt

dry fossil
#

You haven't told Z2M the right location within the container now.

sour shadow
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Simple fix, use ttyACM0 on the Docker command line instead of ttyUSB0

calm valve
#

Traditionally, I am not this stupid. I promise you guys

sour shadow
calm valve
#

He says, as another error pops up

sour shadow
#

It's magic

calm valve
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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-08-29 20:37:20: Not connected to MQTT server!```
sour shadow
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Now configure your MQTT broker correctly

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Your config file will be in a different location, but same principle applies

calm valve
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This cmd is still running haha

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Do I just quit it?

sour shadow
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Well, waiting until the end of time seems like a poor choice

calm valve
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No, no. I've got plenty of time. I think it'll get bored first

opaque pike
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This might be because i dont know anything about docker. But can someone tell me how to access the OTAU folder in the deCONZ addon when im not using Docker? My HA runs on a rpi4
or just point me in the right direction because everything i google seems to relate to running it in Docker

sour shadow
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Same general principle applies, assuming you have access to the docker command

opaque pike
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its not recognized

sour shadow
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You're running HAOS?

opaque pike
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think so

sour shadow
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configuration -> Info

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Have a look

opaque pike
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Version core-2021.8.8
Installation Type Home Assistant OS

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this+

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?

sour shadow
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Yes

opaque pike
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i installed it from a image onto the ssd on my rpi4

sour shadow
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Maybe the community terminal add-on will have the Docker command, don't know

opaque pike
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it dosnt

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i tried it from there and its not recognized

sour shadow
opaque pike
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but do that mean that deconz runs inside a docker container?

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even if i didnt specify it?

sour shadow
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Sure, that's what add-ons are

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They're Docker containers

opaque pike
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okay didnt know that thanks

dawn sable
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Any tips on finding the links for firmware updates for Sengled bulbs? I'm specifically looking for the E1F-N5E and my Google foo is failing me.

calm valve
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Final question, I've seen others have their devices automatically discovered after they install their Zigbee stick... mine has not done that. Should I care?

sour shadow
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Well, once they're paired with Z2M, assuming you enabled Home Assistant in Z2M's UI they'll appear in HA

calm valve
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Hm...

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The url doesn't really have the same effect.

humble merlin
silver stump
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hey there,
I am playing with Tradfri Remote Control the 5 button one. I found out that there is a red LED under the middle button. Is there a way to turn that led on from node-red? 😄
Probably not, but worth to ask.

left shale
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Does anybody use availability timeout on zigbee2mqtt? If so, what have you found is the best value? Thinking about enabling it for my (mostly hue) network of ~ 40 devices

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Just going though the settings to see if there is anything i should change haha

left shale
humble merlin
humble merlin
left shale
humble merlin
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what do you mean by binding?

left shale
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Just made it smoother and more reliable

humble merlin
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oh i see

sour shadow
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Binding is awesome, where supported by the devices

humble merlin
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teach me sensei

left shale
sour shadow
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You can also do it all in Z2M's native UI

left shale
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Yea i have started doing that now. Just did that initially so i knew what clusters to bind

humble merlin
left shale
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Yea haha, it can get quite complex at times.

sour shadow
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The learning curve can resemble a vertical line at times, but there's no magic here so if you're patient you can learn it

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Everybody here started from nothing after all

humble merlin
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yeah trying. i'm probably trying to go too deep without understanding some of the basics. i did get my remote working to turn on and off a shelly controlled LED for a while. but mostly by accident since i was trying to make it dim the light lol

sour shadow
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The docs are good and pretty comprehensive (for both HA and Z2M) - videos can be good, but they can also become outdated (and so misleading) very quickly

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Trial and error is a perfectly fine approach though

humble merlin
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unrelated question.. i was trying to create a group of lights so there'd just be one toggle for say all the kitchen lights.. i put the following in configuration.yaml but i don't see my group show up anywhere. did i miss something?
light:

  • platform: group
    name: Kitchen Lights
    entities:
    • light.upper_cabinets_1
    • light.upper_cabinets_2
    • light.lower_cabinets_1

do i also need something in groups.yaml?

sour shadow
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No, that's a light entity - #integrations-archived can explain in detail, but group is a dumb collection of entities and a light.group is another light

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Then you have an actual single entity to control, and it'll be much more responsive

humble merlin
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even if they aren't zigbee?

sour shadow
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Well, you asked in the Zigbee channel

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So... kinda obvious you were asking about Zigbee lights

humble merlin
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this is a very good point

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haha sorry forgot i was in a zigbee channel!

sour shadow
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And no, Zigbee groups in Z2M only applies to Zigbee lights/switches/whatever

humble merlin
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the binding function would only be zigbee to zigbee as well right? like when you pair an ikea remote with an ikea lightbulb--no hub required

left shale
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Yes

left shale
sour shadow
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I have't changed the defaults

hexed coral
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I have paired this (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/100.462.31.html#paul%2520neuhaus-100.462.31) remote to Z2M (tried it before in my ZHA setup). It has three group buttons and one all button ('1-3'). I figured out that the 1, 2, 3 buttons control the zigbee groups with IDs 1, 2, 3 but the all button controls all my zigbee lights in the house on the same network, although the bind tab on the device in Z2M shows no bindings. Ideally I don't want it to controll all the lights in the house. Do you know if there is some other binding going on behind the scenes that I can configure?

humble merlin
mighty river
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Hi guys, i have a question about the following! My zigbee2MQTT will not let join new devices anymore. I already setted up 6 devices previously! Is there maybe something i am missing? The new devices are a color bulb from tradfri and a movement sensor. They both go in pairing mode but they won't show up on zigbee2mqtt.

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In the main settings permit join is disabled, at the top of the UI is says enabled. Has this something to do with the issue?

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At the bottom of the raw it says! "permit_join": true,

hexed coral
mighty river
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Reset is not possible right?

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It has nothing to do with my settings or setup?

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Already setted up 2 button switched, 2 power switches, 2 bulbs

hexed coral
mighty river
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You don't hold it within 10cm of the usb sniffer cc2531?

hexed coral
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any mains powered device (bulbs, outlets, LED controllers) is a mesh repeater. if you pair it at the location it will live in afterwards it will probably already connect to the right mesh nodes. at least with ZHA this was an advice

mighty river
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I also already deleted an existing device, this one does reconnects.

gentle flint
whole dew
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@tropic depot Hello! Apologies for the ping, hope its OK! Just looking back at the PR for the air quality sensor:

https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/1002

I think I resolved the whitespace one but confused by the "E302 expected 2 blank lines, found 1" - only because when I look at other Quirks they only have a single blank line too. What am I doing wrong? 😄

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Sorry for the beginner questions btw, first time doing a real PR!

mighty river
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Someone know how to work with "zigbee-herdsman-converters"?

lean swift
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I could use some assistance with Zigbee groups & clusters (using ZHA and an EZSP). I recently got a handful of Sengled floodlight bulbs, and got a GE/Jasco Enbrighten dimmer switch (43080) to use for physical control via Zigbee groups. I wired the bulbs to always be on, and the switch has no load connected. I created a Zigbee group and added all of the bulbs. Control via the group works perfectly. The switch is paired and working on its own. I went to the switch's config, then "Manage Clusters," and in group binding I selected the group with the lights, checked all the boxes, and clicked "Bind Group." I toggled the switch a few times, and nothing. Ran a Reconfiguration on the switch, and nothing. It doesn't do a thing to the bulbs. Am I doing something wrong?

violet dagger
obsidian sandalBOT
summer prism
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Hi Folks! I was hoping to get some advice on how to debug a device pairing issue (questions below). Thank you!!

I have two Hue LLC011s that I am trying to pair directly with ZHA. I have number of devices from various vendors working happily on ZHA, but I can’t seem to get the LLC011s to work with ZHA. I have factory reset the lights in multiple ways (philips bridge and philips dimmer) but ZHA never detects/adds them when I try to do a network join.

I had another Conbee II which I setup on a windows laptop running deconz/phoscon (separate from my pi) and after resetting the LLC011s again I phoscon happily paired with the lights.

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The rest of my description is below (sorry, I did not realize there was a line limit so I tried to make a standalone single message)

Questions

  1. How do I query the ConBee II dongle firmware revision when using ZHA?
  2. What should I look for in the home-assistant ZHA debug logging when pairing a device?
  3. Any/all deeper debugging advice, in particular if I’m missing anything obvious or any docs I may have missed?
summer prism
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Setup
HaOS image on PI4 8Gb
OS 6.2
Core 2021.8.8
Supervisor-2021.06.8
ZHA with Conbee II

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What I have tried
Enabled debug logging per instructions on ZHA

  • Nothing obviously related to the lights, but I’m new to ZHA
    Rebooting PI
  • No difference
    Moved ConBee II onto a long USB cable (with ferrites near the usb port) far away from the PI
  • No difference
    Separate laptop & different ConBee II dongle (same fw I believe) with deconz/phoscon
  • Phoscon happily paired with the LLC011
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TIA for any pointers!

gentle flint
whole dew
austere patio
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It'll re-format the existing code you've written. Any future commits will be automatically formatted as well.

golden igloo
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Hello Ladies and Gentleman, i just switched my zigbee-setup from a sonoff zbbrgide/tasmota to conbee2. i removed all devices before the switchover and removed th sonoff completly. after seting up the new mesh i got 2 coordinators. is this correct?

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one is called "dresden elektronik Raspbee II" and one "Silicon Labs EZSP" both with NWK 0x0000 and both Device Type: Coordinator..

whole dew
austere patio
hexed coral
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is there a way to have some devices only in z2m but not exposed to HA? every time I delete the device in HA, it gets automatically added back in after some time. I'm still having the issue where sensor responsiveness is slowed down if a device is exposed to HA

remote patio
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oh god.. I've just paired a ikea volume/dimmer controller with z2m and somehow it's paired itself with ALL my xiaomi smart plugs :/

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so 6 different devices unintentionally get power cut to them when I use it.. I hope there is a way to fix this because so far there does not appear to be

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seems i have to repair it with all the smart plugs unplugged? :/ what a pain in the ass

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ugh.. i think i've crashed the zigbee controller

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ok.. either that or the zigbee controller exploded 😦

molten linden
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There are a few devices out there that broadcast to all devices like that, I can’t remember the fix 🤦‍♂️ maybe try binding it to the coordinator

mellow geode
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uh, try unbinding it from all groups and try unbinding it from the controller

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not sure how it works with Z2M though

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ZHA creates a "ZHA group" with id 0 for all IKEA devices IIRC

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not sure how Z2M handles IKEA devices

remote patio
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it does not seem possible to unbind it from the controller

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just says nothing to unbind

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i did unbind it from the group though.. that worked.. but it still switches all the smarrt plugs

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correction.. it seems to have taken a couple of minutes after unbinding but they're not switching the smart plugs anymore

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thank god

glossy tinsel
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Hi got a noob question. dunno if this is the right channel too. I got a zigbee (gledopot) using z2mqtt, i want to make the light off when the power is off. I dunno where i can edit or input code into.

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currently the light will still show the last state

bold dune
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I keep getting a new warning in my logs, anyone know what it is about?

Logger: zigpy_znp.api
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/zigpy_znp/api.py:230
First occurred: 12:03:23 AM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 12:03:23 AM

Failed to parse broken GeneralFrame(header=CommandHeader(id=0x9F, subsystem=Subsystem.ZDO, type=CommandType.AREQ), data=b'\x13\xDB\x84\x01\xCB') as <class 'zigpy_znp.types.commands.ZDO.ParentAnnceRsp.Callback'>
sour shadow
remote patio
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can't start z2m anymore.. nothing has changed except for a few more devices being added. it's like it can't talk to the coordinator anymore

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going to see if rebooting the host fixes it because I can't find anything to try and change

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still doesn't start.. this is going to be a MAJOR problem as evening is coming up shortly 😦

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going to see if a snapshot restore helps. otherwise.. I don't know

sour shadow
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If only it had a log file

midnight sail
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Hi gents. Im using ZHA with husbzb. It seems I can only add one device at a time

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Then I need to reboot HA to add another device

# 
Source: runner.py:87
First occurred: 11:51:42 AM (2 occurrences)
Last logged: 12:03:38 PM
Error doing job: Unclosed connection```
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Logger: homeassistant
Source: components/zha/core/device.py:505
First occurred: 12:00:21 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 12:00:21 PM
Error doing job: Task exception was never retrieved

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 569, in async_device_initialized
    device_info = zha_device.zha_device_info
  File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/device.py", line 505, in zha_device_info
    ATTR_NAME: f"unknown {endpoint.device_type} device_type "
TypeError: unsupported format string passed to NoneType.__format__
tropic depot
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hrm that makes me think the joins aren't completing successfully

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what are you pairing?

junior viper
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Is 87 lqi too low for handling Z2M devices? Aqara vibration sensor on my mailbox outside

dry fossil
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0 is too low. Anything else is fine if it works.

junior viper
dry fossil
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Any number of things could be wrong. The device, your MQTT broker, HA, your automation...

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Would you like to say what's not working?

junior viper
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The telegram notification is not working, can see the device in Z2M

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Other devices work

tropic depot
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these freeze up from what I have seen

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their lifeline will continue to report but vibration will stop reporting

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just reset / rejoin the device

austere patio
dense owl
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Do all zigbee devices act effectively as range extenders?

broken briar
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Pretty sure to a certain extent. I'm not sure what the max range you can chain everything.

dry fossil
lean swift
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Sengled bulbs don't act as repeaters because (according to them) people tend to turn off power to the bulbs, and they don't want that to screw up the mesh.

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I suppose whether that's laziness or a reasonable decision is up for interpretation. 🙂

dry fossil
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Sounds like a lazy excuse... but also, smart bulbs are dumb anyway.

tropic depot
lean swift
tropic depot
dry fossil
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Being in a recess is reason enough to not depend upon them as repeaters. If they really do state that it's because people would turn them off, that's just a lie 🤷‍♂️

tropic depot
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true

dry fossil
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Blaming customers over blaming physics. 🤯

tropic depot
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I think they state that they are unreliable for several factors

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i haven't looked at the site in a while though

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😄

broken briar
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Has anyone had luck with setting up the Aqara devices as a switch? I just bought one and paired it. Only device state that showed up was battery power

tropic depot
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is it battery powered?

broken briar
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Yes

tropic depot
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look for events

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that is a remote not a switch

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the event format will depend on the integration you use

broken briar
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Okay what's the difference and where would I go to see the events. I'm running the Nortek USB device for my controller

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Im just using the default one in the integrations for zigbee

tropic depot
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what integration?

lean swift
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What are you using for zigbee? ZHA or something else?

tropic depot
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if zha... go to the developer tools

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events tab

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type in zha_event

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then click listen and use the remote

broken briar
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POGGERS

lean swift
tropic depot
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many of the aqara ones also support device actions which can be used as triggers in automations as well

broken briar
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Yup that switch

lean swift
tropic depot
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or those 🙂

lean swift
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(There might be other better ones, that's just the first one I found.)

broken briar
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No thats a good start. I haven't yet use Blueprints. Setup HA and just left it for like a year. Starting to want to expand now.