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limpid coyote
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hello! can I get some zha support here?

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I can't find how to add new tradfri bulbs

unkempt sequoia
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Curious if you ever got to finishing it. I've been trying to get the set_lock_user_code and enable_lock_user_code services to work all afternoon with no luck.

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And of course, as soon as I ask, it starts working 😆

limpid coyote
rich mirage
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I kind of got to apologize, I went and bought the sonoff bridge anyways. I fell into the sunken fallacy. On the bright side It seems like its working perfectly. The range for some reason is shorter than the huzbz-1 but I will take that over the stability

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Now i wonder if there is a way to turn my old huzbz-1 into a bridge/router for my sonoff that I'm using as a coordinator

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I want to pick off 2 devices that are out of my range

sour shadow
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It'd need router firmware, which I doubt exists

old kernel
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I haven't tested it since the release version, as I'm still running that build of HASS

rich mirage
sour shadow
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Well, it's a commercial device...

rich mirage
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at this point I don't think anyone is going to make one either, since its a bit outdated

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😦

old kernel
sour shadow
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Yup, it's pretty old and a commercial device 😄

autumn warren
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Is there a way to make my Aqara motion sensor poll for occupancy quicker? It detects occupancy pretty fast, but takes forever to detect no occupancy

sour shadow
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Google aqara occupancy hack

autumn warren
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Will do, thanks

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Is there a way to use that with ZHA? I don't have a Z2MQTT compatible stick

austere patio
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It's a hardware mod

autumn warren
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Ah ah I see it now

autumn warren
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Well I've done it, and verified conductivity with my multimeter, but nothing's changed hahaha

autumn warren
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So yeah, this makes it report motion after 5 seconds when it's off, but the timeout from on to off it still the same

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Is there any way to change that in ZHA?

analog ember
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@autumn warren Like puddly said it is a hardware mod, but unfortunatly it doesn't work with ZHA. ZHA has a default timeout for the aqara sensors. I believe it's 60 seconds. The aqara sensor doesn't report no motion detected, only motion detected. So when the timeout in ZHA is still 60 it won't work.

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I believe there is a way to change it but that would mean you need to "hack" all your aqara motion sensors.

autumn warren
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@analog ember No problem modding my sensors, I only have four right now, so it would be quick
Can you point me in the direction for changing the timeout?

unkempt sequoia
old kernel
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don't worry about it 🙂 I'm just glad it's making someone's HA experience better!

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(they guy did send some)

austere patio
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Just save that file as /config/zha_custom_quirks/fast_aqara_motion.py (or whatever you named your custom quirks directory) and restart HA. The ZHA device page should show Quirk: fast_aqara_motion.FastMotionAQ2.

autumn warren
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Thank you for that @austere patio !

tall kelp
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I have an Ikea smart bulb currently controlled by a 2 way switch. Turning the bulb off with one of the switches cuts the power to the bulb. Which I don't want obviously. Now I bought 2 aqara single switch modules in the hope I would be able to make the switches smart. Is this even possible? I was able to connect the live wire to the bulb directly but I can't seem to get the aqara switch module to work. I added live wire into L of the module, live wire into the switch and a switch wire from the switch into S0 of the module. I left L1 empty since I'm not controlling a bulb with the thing directly. Also S1 is empty. Should this do the trick? Because it looks like the module doesn't even turn on now... (new to this whole thing by the way, please redirect me if this is the wrong channel, all is zigbee so I figured the knowledge can be found here)

EDIT: so it seems I can't leave L1 empty. As soon as I connect the bulb to L1 of the module, the module works. But then the power to the bulb is controlled by the module which is not what I want.

stable ermine
tall kelp
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It's hard to explain because it's not a typical situation I guess haha. I got it working by pulling a neutral wire. Module and bulb now are live at all times 🙂 It was a great example of learning while playing

cerulean thorn
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Does anyone know about an eu keypad/alarm control pad that works with z2m that doesnt look like its from 1994? No touch screen type, but physical buttons

cerulean thorn
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I will try the Xfinity one as its supported and cheap to get

terse prairie
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IKEA button back to being completely ignored by my system… anyone else see this before? worked ok for a couple of days

obsidian sandalBOT
proud pagoda
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Has anybody flashed a sonoff zigbee bridge to tasmota yet?

sour shadow
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Lots of people have

obsidian sandalBOT
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Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
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  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?
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sour shadow
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Really worth reading that Don't ask to ask link 😉

proud pagoda
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That will do 🙂 just wanted to check I wasn't going into uncharted 🙂 after heading your advice with the cc2530 units

sour shadow
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You also probably want to join the Tasmota Discord

obsidian sandalBOT
proud pagoda
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I'm usually an esphome kinda person, so this is slightly new, but hey ho, just need a 'all good' kinda node. Will do, thanks for that 🙂

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One question, I do have is running a sonoff bridge as a router rather than a co-ordinator

sour shadow
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It'd need router firmware

proud pagoda
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Yup, I'll go off and find that, I've got 4 sonoff zigbees, so want 2 co-ordinators, and 2 routers.

mighty river
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Hi guys, I am running into a problem with my Zigbee2MQTT setup in HA

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it looks like my mqqt broker is working fine and the Zigbee2MQTT container also
When I subscribe to "homeassistant/#" in the HA front end I can see the message passing
example: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MMtdTBZmRm/

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I have enabled discovery (altough it is on by default also)

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But no new entity or device shows up in HA

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I run everything on a synology as docker containers (homeassistant core-2021.2.3, zigbee2mqtt, mosquitto)

graceful notch
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Try listening on zigbee2mqtt/# and use something like mqtt explorer

fleet lodge
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Is there a channel on home assistant where I can sell my loose zigbee sensors?

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If not, does anyone know of a server / community where I can sell my loose zigbee sensors?

sour shadow
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I'd suggest the forum

mighty river
dense bluff
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Hi
I am using zha quirks for wyze lock
It works but every 15 minutes status changes from lock to unlock
Lock itself not unlocking

shrewd pollen
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When I add one of IKEA's on/off switches to ZHA, only the power sensor entity is added, and no automations I set up are working. Am I missing something?

violet dagger
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the device triggers

shrewd pollen
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Within the automation, or do I need to define something within the configuration.yaml?

violet dagger
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how did the automation used to trigger on the ikea switch?

obsidian sandalBOT
shrewd pollen
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Like that, it's basically created using the GUI

violet dagger
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looks ok

shrewd pollen
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Yes, I have no idea why it doesn't work

violet dagger
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check if the zha_events exist

shrewd pollen
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Nothing is happening when I listen on *, and just click like mad

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So no events it would seem

violet dagger
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try to re-pair the device

neat pulsar
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Hello. All of a sudden, my zigbee devices are all missing (has been running fine since I set it up 3 months ago)

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I am not seeing anything suspicious in the logs

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my devices are still listed

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but when I draw the map, nothing is connected

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any idea what I should try to troubleshoot this ?

violet dagger
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it usually helps when you reveal which integration you're using

neat pulsar
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zigbee2mqtt

shrewd pollen
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rebinding it has no effect... Odd

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It's like the switch doesn't exist, there are no events produced

shrewd pollen
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So I've managed to repair the switch, but it still has no effect when I click the buttons. I've tried repairing while holding in the link button, but when I try that, nothing happens

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I can link it directly to a bulb, and it works - but still doesn't produce any events in HA

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Maybe I'm not listening to the correct events?

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Well, I'm listening til *, so I suppose they should show up ....

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Maybe Ikea changed something to their product, or maybe something is wrong with my zigbee controller / HA setup

neat pulsar
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update : one of my devices just joined back (around 10 are still disconnected)

shrewd pollen
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Has anyone succesfully paired TRÅDFRI switches using a CC2531 ?

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I'm starting to suspect it's not possible

sour shadow
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They'll pair just fine

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The questions are which Zigbee integration and are they in range of the mesh

shrewd pollen
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It pairs fine here too, but no events are published when I click the buttons. I am using the Zigbee TI CC2531 USB CDC integration

sour shadow
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That's the stick, not the integration... though from the above it sounds like ZHA

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Possibly ZHA doesn't support that particular model shrug

shrewd pollen
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Maybe.... When I look it up, there's a lot of talk of flashing the dongle. What is the purpose of that?

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Even when pairing the switch in IKEA's gateway, and using the IKEA TRÅDFRI integration, I still don't get any events when I click any of my two switches buttons. Using the Trådfri integration, I can't bind any buttons either, only battery change events.... Any ideas on how I can debug this further?

worthy ledge
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Good morning. I'm struggling with performance in a couple of rooms that have 9 and 12 zigbee can lights. When I trigger scenes to turn them all on/off at once, often times 1 or 2 random bulbs don't do what they are supposed to. I know the coding is okay because if I keep triggering the scene, they will eventually go to the correct state. I just setup a Zigbee group and that helps to make sure they all do what is intended (and also make them trigger at almost the exact same time) but now I have to wait like 1-2 minutes before another command can be issued.

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Ex: I turn them all on by accident, but I have to wait about a minute or 2 before they will respond to an off command.

sour shadow
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The problem is that you get a burst of commands, which makes your mesh busy

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The mesh diagram may help you work out the choke points

worthy ledge
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I've got a Nortek z-wave/zigbee combo stick and am running on a RaspPi4. Using the HubZ Smart Home Controller - HubZ ZigBeee integration.

sour shadow
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Well, the stick isn't bad, it's just a generation old

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Using Zigbee groups however should perform well

worthy ledge
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I have pulled that diagram up, but not sure what to be looking for.

sour shadow
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Single common route?

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Any message is relayed to the destination, so the message goes A > B > C > ...

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If they're all going through a single point, that'll not be helping you

worthy ledge
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Obviously this is zoomed out, but does this help tell you anything?

sour shadow
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A group however is a broadcast, so a single message

obsidian sandalBOT
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sour shadow
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If the group performs badly it means the devices are then flooding the mesh with update

worthy ledge
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Shoot, I guess I can't paste the image. They all show green connection lines though.

sour shadow
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Read the bot message

worthy ledge
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I moved to HA from SmartThings. I thought in SmartThings, I could control dim rates and such on these bulbs, but can't find a similar area in HA. Is there one that I'm missing?

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Would that help stop the flooding if I made them all work instantly vs slower transition as is the default?

sour shadow
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I don't know - not only don't I use ZHA, I have no idea what "these bulbs" are

worthy ledge
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Ok. Here is my mesh link.

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Bulbs are Sylvania/Osram Smart+ Zigbee RGBW can lights.

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They are the flush mount type, not the screw in bulbs

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And instead of ZHA is there a different integration you use?

sour shadow
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I use Zigbee2MQTT

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I don't use those bulbs though

worthy ledge
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Does MQTT give you an option to change device parameters?

sour shadow
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Sure, I have a pretty UI

worthy ledge
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And would I be able to try it out without repairing and configuring all of my zigbee devices?

sour shadow
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Eh... not really. It's probably possible with some creative coding to translate the databases

worthy ledge
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It does list my light in the supported products list...

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I don't see the Nortek USB stick listed though. Maybe under the chipset type. Trying to cross reference that now. What stick are you using and would you recommend it?

sour shadow
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Nortek GoControl QuickStick Combo Model HUSBZB-1 (note that this is based on Silabs older EM3581 "Ember" family chip)

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I use the ZZH (Zig-A-Zig-Ah!) and like all CC2652 sticks it's out of stock right now

worthy ledge
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I've read about a lot of people picking up the Conbee II. I see it is experimental. Any idea how well it currently works? I'd gladly buy a new stick/chip if it means I can clean up my performance.

sour shadow
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It works great with deCONZ

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Results for ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT are more mixed...

worthy patio
# sour shadow It works great with deCONZ

But will deConz be able to sniff (in combination of conbee 2 integrated with a tuya wired gateway hub) all the tuya zigbee devices across a 2 storey home and provide good range for sockets switches sensors and Lock all zigbee tuya??

sour shadow
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No

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You can't use the Tuya gateway with deCONZ, only the ConBee range

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Range is about the mesh though

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If you're trying to solve range problems with a more powerful coordinator you're doing it very wrong

worthy patio
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Then what is the way to go about?

sour shadow
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You jumped into the middle of another conversation

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The way to go about WHAT?

worthy patio
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Iam sorry

sour shadow
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I can't read minds, and frankly don't want to.

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You have to ask the actual question, not half of it 😛

worthy ledge
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Excuse my stupidity, but is deCONZ a different "Integration" for HA Zigbee. Still pretty green to this HA platform, but like the direction I am headed in vs. SmartThings.

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I just found it in the integration list. I guess I need to research the different ones. When I started, I had no idea there were different flavors of it.

sour shadow
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Yes, it is

obsidian sandalBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

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worthy patio
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Yes your right iam so sorry to jump in first of all..I meant to say if iam using a conbee 2 just like @worthy ledge to control around 50 zigbee socket and switches in a house. Will those switches act as a mesh network.? And the way to go about I meant is with the conbee 2 stick integrating all zigbee devices via deConz in HA

sour shadow
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There's a good guide to how the mesh works in the pinned messages

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The short answer is that most mains powered devices will extend the mesh

worthy ledge
sour shadow
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The coordinator needs to be fast enough to handle all the devices, and have enough signal strength to reach (Zigbee) routers

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After that, it doesn't matter

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My old CC2531 mesh covered the same footprint as my new CC2652 mesh. In the original case the coordinator reached the next room. In the new case it reaches the far side of the house (just)

worthy patio
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Alright will check that pin out for sure @sour shadow thankyou really appreciate it.

worthy patio
neat pulsar
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Hello. I have been using the z2m integration for around 3 months. All of a sudden, all my devices got disconnected from the coordinator

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only stranger thing was that a device had joined (because I had left it in join-all for a few days) and was noted as not supported

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I have removed the device, rebooted a few times

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now 2 of my device have joined back but not the others

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I really have no idea of what I could do to trouble shoot this

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any clue ?

dry fossil
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Re-pair them if they're not working. Start with routers, then end devices.

neat pulsar
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I'd rather avoid that

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because this is going to create a lot of additional work afterwards

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the weird thing is that the 2 devices that have connected back are one that is very close and another (quite close too but one that is powered and acts as a router)

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the antenna on my dongle seems fine and well connected though

maiden fern
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I can't get my Raspbee II to work for the life of me. How did you do it? Never mind. Got it working.

austere patio
fresh shard
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I'm using the Zigbee Home Automation Integration and I've been having issues with the responsiveness of my philips hue bulbs. First anyone have any tips? Second should I be pairing other devices through my Zigbee repeaters or always directly to my Conbee II?

mellow geode
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For mains powered devices, it doesn't really matter. In your case, I'd click the "Add devices" button (I think it's in the bottom right) on the main page.

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Also, the Conbee is known to cause problems. What exact problems are you seeing though? (Turning on scenes, turning on a single light, ...?)

tired sonnet
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I set up some Zigbee contact sensors in ZHA, but the binary_sensor entities appear in HA with the icons hass:square (when closed) and hass:square-outline (when open). How can I get them to appear using the hass:door-open and hass:door-closed icons that my MQTT binary_sensor entities use?

dry fossil
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The easiest way is to customise their device class.

fresh shard
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@mellow geode Sorry for taking so long but my issues are what I think is huge delays in response to sent commands and unreliable sending of zigbee commands to lights. I say think because to me it almost seems unpredictable. In one instance I have no control of a light that shows as still being paired but I can not control at all, although it used to work just fine.

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And what is the best zigbee cooridinator to use? As in most reliable and most feature supporting.

mellow geode
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It could be that your WiFi channels (or the one of your neighbors) are potentially overlapping. ZHA (by default) uses channel 15 (Zigbee channel). Only channel 11 (WiFi channel) doesn't interfere with that.

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It's also possible that the signal is simply too low because the routers (mains powered devices -> "repeaters") are too far away from the coordinator.

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For ZHA, EmberZNet (Silabs) based sticks are recommended. The Elelabs stick is pretty good.

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Texas Instruments CC2652P2 or CC2652R based sticks are also ok.

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There might be more information in the pinned messages of this channel.

fresh shard
austere patio
fresh shard
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Ok

austere patio
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It's a lot easier to change the channel of the WiFi network potentially interfering with the Zigbee network, if that is indeed the cause

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Zigbee doesn't handle channel changes as gracefully as WiFi

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I'd start with the debug logs to see what the actual error codes are. Since you're using a Conbee, make sure to have it plugged into a USB extension cable and away from any USB 3.0 ports or other potential sources of interference

fresh shard
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Ok that makes sense but being in an apartment it probably wont be very useful to change my wifi channel as neighbors I'm sure are using others as well.

austere patio
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As long all of their WiFI networks are on 1, 6, or 11 (almost all are), you should be fine

fresh shard
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Ok but is there a way to check my zigbee channel?

austere patio
fresh shard
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i did use it with deconz first

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I have the deconz app installed on my computer would that show the channel?

austere patio
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Yeah, it should

dense bluff
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was locked
1:00:04 AM - 44 seconds ago
was unlocked
12:56:27 AM - 4 minutes ago
was locked
12:30:12 AM - 31 minutes ago
was unlocked
12:26:27 AM - 34 minutes ago

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now it repeats every 4 minutes and 26 minutes

obsidian sandalBOT
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dense bluff
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was locked
11:30:30 PM - 2 hours ago
was unlocked
11:26:27 PM - 2 hours ago
was locked
11:00:38 PM - 2 hours ago
was unlocked
10:56:27 PM - 2 hours ago
was locked
10:30:47 PM - 3 hours ago
was unlocked
10:26:27 PM - 3 hours ago
was locked
10:00:56 PM - 3 hours ago

sour shadow
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@dense bluff Really?

dense bluff
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any idea?

sour shadow
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Yeah, stop posting codewalls

dense bluff
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ok

sour shadow
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Beyond that, if it just says was locked then that's the lock reporting that

dense bluff
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lock itself stays locked

mossy sky
sour shadow
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Add-ons would be the #add-ons-archived channel - that has nothing to do with Zigbee @mossy sky

mossy sky
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sonoff zigbee? sorry then

sour shadow
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Currently, the official add-on support eWeLink switches & sockets

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Doesn't look very Zigbee

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It's also a really crap implementation and not how it should be done

violet dagger
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that tracks with being an official ewelink product

sour shadow
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Good news, we've gone for the most lock-in we can while pretending to be open

nimble light
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Hi. I've been trying to find how to fetch the "last_seen" (NOT last-updated or last-changed) attribute of a zigbee device~~/entity~~ in a template (zha-network-card does it nicely in Lovelace dashboard). Can someone advise?

gentle flint
molten linden
gentle flint
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Yeah, sounded like wyze was a pita

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Wasn't sure about the progress

molten linden
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it was working, just took manual edits to the quirk as every lock sends different data. with the custom folder for quirks it should be a lot easier now. but no way it could be upstreamed unless you could some how save the needed bits in the UI or something.

gentle flint
dusky hill
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Is there any sensor that can detect sound or air speed? (indoor) trying to see if a vent is getting air into it

royal star
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Does anyone use aqara motion sensors outdoors?

onyx meadow
dusky hill
onyx meadow
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That's a smart idea

gentle flint
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Motion sensor and some stripes inside the duct. I suspect a pair of pressure sensors would work too, one inside another outside and compare the measurements

dusky hill
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I’ll report back tomorrow if it works. This project has been an experience so far. The remote despite being standard frequencies doesn’t work with any rf transmitters so I’m using a switchbot on the actual remote. Works well but it’s hard to knows it’s on

drifting raven
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can i have both zigbee2mqtt and Z2M running at the same time

ivory hound
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@drifting ravenis the same thing

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so yes

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:))))

drifting raven
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i tried to add both integrations but no only one works

ivory hound
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i dont think you understand

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let me rephase that

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Z2M = Zigbee2MQTT

drifting raven
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i mean the zigbee intergration and Z2M

ivory hound
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is ZHA and aigbee2mqtt @drifting raven

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yes you can, but take this into account

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  1. make sure to set different channels on both of them
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  1. make sure they run on different hosts is safer
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  1. take into account interference's
drifting raven
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@ivory houndwhat is the best zigbee chanal to be on

ivory hound
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oh that depends on many things

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my advice to you is read about zigbee a bit

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read docs for ZHA and Z2M

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be aware that zigbee wifi 2,4GHz and Bluetooth interfere with each other

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if you do this you will be fine

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both Z2M and ZHA work well

drifting raven
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would it affect the lanteny of a device

ivory hound
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if you have good coordinators

ivory hound
drifting raven
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my ikea remote take a second or two to react

ivory hound
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yah no

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thats not right

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something is wrong there

drifting raven
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do you have a microhone

ivory hound
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my z2m is instant or very low

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i do but i am at work 🙂

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can't speak to you

drifting raven
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it might be the mqtt intergration taking it's time

ivory hound
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mqtt is very fast

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except if host is running on has problems

drifting raven
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becuase when node red talks to mqtt direct it work just fine

ivory hound
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tell me about your setup (my guess is you use z2m with mqtt)

drifting raven
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Yup

ivory hound
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coordinator?

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if you say deconz conbee

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that's your problem

drifting raven
violet dagger
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i'm very intimate with one

ivory hound
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that's good

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that is the one i have

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works ok

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did you put latest firmware on it

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?

drifting raven
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i think it is the mqtt intergration that talks from Z2M to HA

ivory hound
drifting raven
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becuse when Z2M to Node Red no delay

ivory hound
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again

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not relevant

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because z2m can not talk without mqtt server with anything

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z2m = zigbee to mqtt

drifting raven
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not the server the intergration

ivory hound
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can not do shit without mqtt

drifting raven
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that allow MQTT device to show up in home aissstant

ivory hound
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this is not how it works

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anyhow is simple to test where the delay is

drifting raven
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that is my issue

ivory hound
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set it up

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and you can see exactly if mqtt is the problem

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or not

drifting raven
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if i look in zigbee2mqtt and look at the device exposes the action updates the moment i click the button

ivory hound
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you can do the same with mqtt explorer for mqtt broker

drifting raven
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the zigbee intergration works fine

ivory hound
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do you use a local mqtt broker or external (cloud)

drifting raven
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how would i tell

ivory hound
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did you set it up yourself

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?

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by that i mean configure mqtt server

drifting raven
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no

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i download the mqtt broker and started it

ivory hound
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what's the ip if your broker

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is it local ip

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?

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yah that might be your issue, read the docs from what you've downloaded

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maybe you need to configure it more

drifting raven
ivory hound
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ok firstly change localhost to local ip

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if you used docker this will help a lot

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make sure you read the docs from what you've used to configure mqtt

drifting raven
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mqtt is getting the instant message

ivory hound
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replace locahost everywhere wih local ip

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and i mean everywhere

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in mqtt integration (re add it with ip)

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every single place where is used

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in ha when you remove integration, remove, restart ha, re add with ip

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also try some other kind of remote, it might just be that ikea one is plain bad

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motion sensors for example (if you have any) have this problem?

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or other zigbee devices you have

drifting raven
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mqtt is getting the messige the moment i click the button

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the intergration for me is not working

ivory hound
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remove it

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like i said up

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remove, restart, re add

drifting raven
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i tell node red to talk mqtt it's fine

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really home assistant reboot and re add fixed it

warm rivet
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Hi I am trying to bind ikea switches to a light group (also Ikea) in Zigbee2MQTT Home Assistant Add on. I am getting an error that bind failed without any other log messages. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated

stone halo
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I'm gonna try to create my own ZigBee stuff using an Arduino nano 33 ble

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Wish me luck haha

lime locust
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Whats the max range for a zigbee. Bulb as router , have a garden shed, but its aprox 8 m away from my nearest bulb and a wall investeren?

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Inbetween

graceful notch
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there's no way to tell, except to try

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but it should be fine imo

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I got mine working through 2 walls and 25m or such away

lime locust
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Ah Nice , thnks

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👍

graceful notch
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but I added another smartplug just to be sure

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but it worked though

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oh and mine also lives inside a freezer, so those walls are pretty insulated as well

sand dew
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just wondering if power line adaptors might interfere with zigbee devices? running ethernet all over the house hasn't gotten a ringing endorsement from SWMBO :/

dry fossil
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No, they shouldn't affect anything on RF unless you have wiring faults.

sand dew
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great to know that - thanks. plus I have the advantage of knowing where my local electrician lives 😄

mighty river
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Dongle: Which works realy good with Synology VM? My dongle is a CC2530+CC2592 https://www.tindie.com/products/giovannicas/cc2530-cc2592-zigbee-dongle/ All works fine for 2-4 days, than some devices do not react, some do. So i know i have to remove the dongle, plug it again, connect it to the VM USB in the VM-Manger and all will be fine again. The zigbee2mqtt protocoll tells this: Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-07-07 19:29:25: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman I do not need to restart any process.

sour shadow
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The CC2530 and 31 based sticks are known to do that

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CC2652 based is the answer

uneven ruin
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I bought an outlet (jasco 43102) that is not recognized. I was hoping it would help extend my network better than the plug in outlets I was using that are junk.

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its showing up as unknown, how hard it it to write a quirk?

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I have programming background but it is rusty

austere patio
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Are you saying its model and manufacturer name are unknown? If so, it didn't join the network properly. Try joining it again.

uneven ruin
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yeah it sorted itself out when I git update configuration

ivory hound
remote bear
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hey does anyone here have experience pairing a Ikea tradfri remote to zigbee2mqtt? I had everything working, but the remote needed a new battery and upon changing it now I can't get the remote to talk to the network. I have another remote that's never been used that I also can't get paired to the network so I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong.

I've tried pressing the sync button 4 times, the red LED blinks 4 times, then goes slow on/off for several seconds, and then turns off. Nothing makes it to zigbee2mqtt though. I've also tried holding the sync button for 10s while next to the coordinator which does not appear to have any effect at all

graceful notch
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do you have permit join enabled in Z2M ?

remote bear
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@graceful notch Yup

dry fossil
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My experience has been that IKEA stuff is really bad at pairing. Once paired, it's pretty stable.

remote bear
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@dry fossil agreed. everything's been working great until the battery died.

graceful notch
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I only hear people having issues with tradfri stuff, I don't have any of these devices though, but when you use mqtt explorer, is there still a topic for that device ?

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I once messed enough with things that I had to force remove the device from Z2M and then re-pair it

remote bear
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I believe so. Sorry, I only barely understand this. I have an item under device_automation whose ID matches the zigbee id in zigbee2mqtt

naive summit
graceful notch
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I think you might have misunderstood me @remote bear, if you have Z2M running as docker, you could enable the webgui and force delete the device there, if it's still listed.

remote bear
graceful notch
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that's odd

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I also assume you already restarted the docker instance and checked logs ?

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do you also have any other usb devices connected to the pc/server/pi ?

remote bear
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yup docker instance has been restarted, and I have the log running in an open terminal window.

graceful notch
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I noticed my zigbee stick acts up when I add another usb device to the pc, so that might interfere maybe

dry fossil
thick zealot
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So..im giving up on these SNZB-03 pieces of junk

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The Wyzesense motion sensors were super reliable, besides from an issue or two.

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Now im just trying to find a good set of motion sensors to invest in without having to deal with BS

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Dunno if I should try another Zigbee sensor or try an Zwave one..

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Any recommendations?

dry fossil
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I've been happy with the tiny Aqara motion sensors. The only criticism I've seen is that they have slow update times... but there's a hack to get around that.

thick zealot
forest cobalt
thick zealot
forest cobalt
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True. I have 16 of them. I hate thinking about how much I paid... but, I've only had to change the batteries in 2 of them in over 2 years. So, there's that.

remote bear
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Okay so I can't add any Ikea devices to my zigbee network it seems. Brand new out of box e26 bulb and brand new out of box 5-button dimmer remote neither will jump on the network for some reason. I have other bulbs on the network and previously had a working remote, I just added a Hue light strip the other day with no issue at all but the ikea stuff just doesnt connect. I can factory reset both, and have them connect to one another, but they refuse to see the network whatsoever. Ive tried a full reboot of the server and zigbee2mqtt container to no avail. Any thoughts?

dry fossil
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Return them to IKEA, buy better stuff next time.

forest cobalt
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What channel is your mesh running on? (Z2M->Settings->Advanced->Zigbee Channel)

remote bear
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well...that makes me feel stupid. I've been using zigbee2mqtt assistant not the zigbee2mqtt webgui.... the webgui looks much better.

remote bear
forest cobalt
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Hmmm... That might be it. I've found that Ikea stuff like channels 15, 20, or 25. 11 is usually hit or miss depending on the age of the device in question. Given that they are new, they probably don't like 11 at all.

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But, with that said, changing your channel is a tedious process as you need to re-pair your existing devices.

remote bear
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@dry fossil any recommendations for a remote from a different brand?

graceful notch
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Hue dimmer switch

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My preferred one if you want multiple buttons

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Otherwise I’d use aqara button

remote bear
graceful notch
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I configured my switch so i can select different devices/groups, have a toggle function and automatic dimming function (up/down)

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And when I select a different device, it blinks for a second, so you know without looking what device is selected

dry fossil
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If you're not looking, how do you know it blinked? 😄

remote bear
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I can accept that the ikea product is lacking and incompatible I mostly just don't understand why everything was working fine until a battery change and now z2m doesn't even acknowledge the device existing anymore.

dry fossil
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It took me at least 30 attempts per device to get mine paired. It's probably not that anything's changed, just that they suck at interviewing.

remote bear
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Wow. Would I see any interview attempts in the log at all?

dry fossil
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Depends if it starts the process or not.

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If you do it for something that works, you'll notice it happens in (at least) two parts. You'll see it start an interview and pass/fail the interview. I seem to recall it didn't even start on most attempts, but it's been a while.

graceful notch
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or press the button multiple times and have it go 'disco' mode 😄

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@remote bear I'd change channel to 25

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and try pairing again

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I had most of luck with my channel set on 25 (couldn't get the hue devices to pair on channal 11 either)

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bt that might break your whole network

forest cobalt
graceful notch
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my wifi range actually improved 😄

forest cobalt
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Eh, it happens sometimes. lol

remote bear
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Thanks guys. I had been hoping to avoid redoing the whole network with a channel change - last thing I need is other previously functional devices refusing to reconnect - but it sounds like that's my best next attempt.

graceful notch
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oh hang on, i'm on 11 now, I probably changed that after my initial setup

forest cobalt
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11 as a default is usually ok for devices that are mostly ZHA profile devices. ZLL profile devices (Ikea, Hue, Cree, and others) are much more picky about their channels.

graceful notch
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I have a Hue only setup 😄

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but I did had initial issues

remote bear
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I have hue and xiaomi devices in my network now, plus the ikea remote that no longer works lol

forest cobalt
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Hues aren't nearly as picky as their own firmware supports channel 11 as one of the 4 default channels (11, 15, 20, and 25). Ikea devices, especially <2020, have a hard time on 11 and will drop a lot if put into a mixed ZHA/ZLL mesh.

remote bear
#

interesting

forest cobalt
remote bear
forest cobalt
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Hmmm... with that said, I'd say start with changing your channel to 15 or 20 (depending on what channels your WiFi AP(s) is/are set to). Yeah, it sucks, but you'll have a more stable mesh most likely.

graceful notch
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could be a solution to back up your Z2M instance now

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or put this one down and set up another one

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and try to pair the remote on channel 15-20 like code-in-progress said

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if it still doesn't work, you can rollback to the current instance

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maybe one of the zigbee devices might need a reboot, but they should still work though

austere patio
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Just change the PAN ID and extended PAN ID if you do that

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And the network key

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Otherwise the "new" and "old" will be the same network on different channels, so devices from the old one may try joining the new one

gentle flint
tropic depot
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Centralite devices in general are rock solid

remote bear
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@graceful notch @forest cobalt Changing the channel worked, the tradfri remote is functional. Appears to have broken most of my other devices though, manually re-adding them fails more frequently than it works

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thanks for the help though, you got the remote working 🙂

graceful notch
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Now you go try and pair the rest 😉 and hope it continues working, thnx to code-in-progress his channel knowledge

remote bear
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Would the hue bulbs be unable to use channel 15 or something? They refuse to connect. I can get to them through touchlink to reset but they won't jump on the network

remote bear
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okay. channel 20 works for 1 tradfri remote and the hue bulbs. Doesn't work for the hue lightstrip, and only works for 1 of the xiaomi sensors.... I'm not missing something obvious here, right?

forest cobalt
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Hue bulbs should be the easiest to get to pair.

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For the ziaomi sensors, you might need to get them closer to the coordinator. The lightstrip might also take a few tries. Mine took me about 5 tries on channel 20 just because they were being stubborn. I finally ended up taking all my Hue bulbs, connected them to the Hue hub and then deleted them from the Hue hub as touchlink was messing up for me (older build of Z2M).

remote bear
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@forest cobalt what are you doing for each try with the light strip? I'm connecting to it over BT with the Hue app and then doing a factory reset. Is there a better/faster way?

forest cobalt
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Ohhhh, you have one of the newer ones that has BT? Mine isn't that fancy (2nd gen lightstrip lol).

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that should work... the factory reset should wipe it.

remote bear
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it worked when on channel 15

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when the other hue bulbs wouldn't, lol

forest cobalt
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Welcome to Zigbee 😉 This is the wild west of devices... lol

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How far away is the light strip from either a repeater or your coordinator?

remote bear
#

jesus. I thought this was...much easier. every device 'just worked' with my initial setup.

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the light strip is <20ft from the coordinator, and I had two hue bulbs in between

hardy crane
#

Anyone happen to have the Blitzwolf plugs? There are the SHP13 but also SHP15 but cannot find what is the possible difference if any 🤔

dry fossil
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15 is bigger than 13.

sour shadow
#

Clearly the answer is 2️⃣

forest cobalt
violet dagger
remote bear
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Should be.... Lol. I can connect 2 hue bulbs but not the third. And no light strip nor ikea bulb. Wtf zigbee

uneven ruin
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what repeater, router whatever is best for xiomi sensors

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or what can I use to replace my xiomi sensors

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lol

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I need a bunch of motion sensors I can aim easily

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also temp/humidity as they drive my AC automations

hardy crane
violet dagger
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thats how chinese do. imo shp15 is a downgrade

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i have that kind of shell on wifi plugs and shp13 is much sleeker and looks better

hardy crane
#

I agree on that

sour shadow
broken hare
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Did the last update break zha for anyone else?

remote bear
#

@forest cobalt @graceful notch thank you both for all your help today. Moving to channel 25 worked for everything. 15 and 20 worked for some things but not all.

forest cobalt
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Good to hear!

dry fossil
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Just wait until you buy something that doesn't work on 25 😄

slender turtle
#

I'm running Ha in a vm on unraid. I passed the Conbee II stuck to the VM and used the ZHA integration with no issues for about 2 weeks. After a core update there is no response from ZHA regarding the conbee II, I can reattach it and set ZHA up again but only to either get a User input malformed or Couldn't start deCONZ = dresden elektronik deCONZ protocol: ConBee I/II, RaspBee I/II coordinator. I tried with a different conbee II, worked for a week and same thing. Any ideas?

austere patio
slender turtle
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Ofcourse, on it.

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Whilest getting the logs I tried deleting the zigbee.db and reinstalling ZHA, which solved it. But the questions is for how long.

austere patio
slender turtle
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No I don't, didn't think twice of keeping it, however would've been a good idea to take it under a magnifying glass

austere patio
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Do you have a debug log where it failed to start up?

slender turtle
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I think I still do

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Said that too early, I don't anymore.
Will be something to keep in mind for next time 😅

austere patio
#

Well there go all the possible sources of debugging info 😂

slender turtle
#

My bad, I'll for sure keep it in mind next time it happens

hybrid flame
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come to think of it may be caused from updating HA today

hybrid flame
#

Yep, well that sucks apparently new version of HA breaks conbee2

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reverting to my snapshot fixed it

mystic tulip
#

can someone recommend a zigbee usb dongle

modest hinge
mystic tulip
austere patio
#

The only sub-$20 coordinator that I'm aware of is the CC2531 and it's not great

austere patio
mystic tulip
#

my alternative is to pair with ECHO hub and create virtual switches in HA to pass info

austere patio
#

It'll work but be prepared to have to have it potentially lock up every few weeks due to firmware glitches, requiring you to physically unplug it

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I believe the last firmware for it was released three years ago by TI, so that bug isn't getting fixed

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And if you have nothing but sensors (i.e. no routers to extend the mesh), its range isn't that great

mystic tulip
#

I see a 2020 firmware released for the cc2531

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CC2531_DEFAULT_20201127.zip

austere patio
#

The firmware was built in 2020, it's still based on Z-Stack Home 1.2 from 2015? with various small patches

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The most recent for that architecture is Z-Stack 3.0.2 from 2018, which barely runs on the CC2531 and is less stable than the older version

mystic tulip
#

I guess ill hang on to my smartthings hub a little longer 🙂

austere patio
#

So the CC2531 will "work", just be aware of its limitations. CC2652/CC1352 coordinators are only twice as much and are still actively supported.

gentle flint
hybrid flame
modest hinge
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Z2M means Zigbee2MQTT -.-

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lol

hybrid flame
#

oh

modest hinge
#

Eh, I suppose the zigbee 2 mqtt page has links to what looks like dongles with some larger antennas, so maybe one of those might work for you ?

Though for me it seems like my raspbee II has plenty good signal so far. Perhaps you need some routers?

hybrid flame
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I have the conbee2 down in my basement on my computer if I had an ethernet hub with anntenna like Tube makes that would be great. Everything works great but big delay on zigbee devices upstairs. Unfortnately the radio he uses doesn't work with my switch so I have to use the conbee2

hybrid flame
austere patio
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You can use an SMB addon or something similar

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The database contains no network security information, just info about the Zigbee devices on your network. I have a rough idea of what the problem is so if you don't mind sending it over, I think I can get it fixed.

hybrid flame
#

Thanks I think I get the gist from the git report just delete the extra controller reference from db. But can offer up DB if it would help troubleshoot the problem that caused it for fix to HA

austere patio
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It'd be good if I can replicate the problem locally

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So if you can make a backup of your zigbee.db file before deleting the reference, it would help

hybrid flame
#

sure how can I send you file?

austere patio
#

I think you can DM it to me directly. If Discord doesn't allow .db files, you should be able to zip it.

delicate lodge
#

What would be the recommendation for a newbie and brand new setup using zigbee?

sour shadow
#

For ... which bits?

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CC2652 based stick, Zigbee2MQTT or ZHA, and then .... fill your boots when it comes to devices

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The pinned messages have a load of useful info, but what devices you pick will really depend on your goals, budget, etc

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For example. Hue's motion sensor is considered one of the best (responsive, configurable) but is expensive and relatively large and ugly. Other brands (Konke, Xiaomi, etc) are cheaper, smaller, and have fixed update intervals you can't change

delicate lodge
#

Im wanting to purchase some Cree bulbs to start everything off. I have checked out some of the pin links but its a little overwhelming for someone that just jumping into HA.

forest cobalt
delicate lodge
#

Thank you so much @forest cobalt

forest cobalt
dim moon
#

odd one - but scene transitions with my Zigbee lights work to turn on, but if I set a transition time to turn off ... they stay on despite zigbee2mqtt showing them as off (and HA too). The only way to turn them off it to turn them on and then off again. Is this a know issue? I've set all the transitions to 0 (for light.turn_off) and it's working.

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addendum - I'd like a transition time to off too - not 0 as that's a bit harsh!

mellow geode
#

Which Zigbee lights are you using?

dim moon
sweet cypress
#

Hi, anyone else having issues with deconz and zigbee lights after last update? I can turn them on and off, brightness also works, but I can't change color on them.

silver plover
#

Hi Pete, got. the Same Problem @sweet cypress

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Only for Ikea Tradfri devices, hue lights still working fine

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Anyone here knows how to solve the problem?

mellow geode
mellow geode
oak zephyr
#

Using ZHA and so far I have been successful with my Aqara and Sonoff sensors, but I now got inexpensive "Zigbee Motion Sensor" Model ZM-RT201 from AliExpress and they don't seem to join right. It is very slow to find them but then interview doesn't ever seem to finish. No idea where to go from here. i have Tubes Ethernet coordinator and running on RPi 4. Doesn't explicitly say supported on ZHA page from blackadder but the main pages read compatible basically with any zigbee. Didn't go to latest yet for core, think am 2021.6.x.

mellow geode
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It should join just fine, it might not work after that though (since it's a Tuya device)

brazen robin
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@sweet cypress @silver plover If it is a Tuya device, go to Integrations > Tuya Configure > Select the light in the drop-down at the bottom > Submit > check Force color support > Submit. Repeat the drop-down for each light or click Submit and Finish to close.

stable thicket
#

Hi all. Has anybody success with the Lidl Silvercrest Doorbell Button HG06668? zha recognized it as a binary_sensor and i tried to change it via configration.yaml as a switch but without success. still binary_sensor. When i press the Button state changed to "open" but never closed until i push the button on the back. any ideas?

sweet cypress
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@brazen robin Thanks, mine are all Ikea and hue tho.

brazen robin
#

I used to use value of 191 to force everything. Thread is regarding Tuya bulbs but don't see why it wouldn't work with yours.

rocky mauve
#

Hi. I just switched out my conbee stick for an elelabs dongle after having trouble with the conbee. It appears to work fine (ZHA) and I’ve added devices etc. But I keep getting this error message: Couldn't set EzspConfigId.CONFIG_ADDRESS_TABLE_SIZE=16 configuration value: EzspStatus.ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY

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I did something wrong?

graceful notch
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are you running in docker?

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if you do, try docker stats homeassistant and look at the mem usage/limit

rocky mauve
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I’m on an rPi 4 running HAOS 6.1

graceful notch
#

if the container name is homeassistant 🙂

rocky mauve
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The message comes from /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bellows/ezsp/protocol.py:37

graceful notch
#

have you updated your dongle ?

sweet cypress
#

@brazen robin Sadly it does not work here. I had the value 44,and changed first to 191,and also tried 63.

rocky mauve
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So I’ll go through this process

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Will this require me to set up all the devices again or?

silver plover
sweet cypress
#

@silver plover I kinda gave up for the moment. I can set color in the deconz web GUI. So I'll set it there and leave it. Strange thing is, when I have deconz GUI up, and make a color change in HA the slider in deconz changes to, but the light does not change. I even tried updating my lightbulbs, but still doesn't work.

silver plover
#

I think I will roll back to core-2021.6.6

rocky mauve
graceful notch
#

didn't see your previous msg, but glad it worked out 🙂

silver plover
sinful swift
#

Has anyone seen Aqara Door/Window sensors with bad battery capacity reports? See the shed door plot (dark green lowest plot) in this? https://i.imgur.com/67pWbdc.png It's the only one that has a wild temperature related capacity swing. I've replaced the battery with a fresh one. No difference.

oak zephyr
#

@mellow geode what is the issue with Tuya device?

molten linden
#

@oak zephyr Tuya connects to zigbee then talk their own “language”- they don’t follow the normal zigbee clusters etc. so a lot of work has to be done to translate what they send essentially. it could be supported already but your device might have a slightly different identifier as well as that’s another tuya thing

graceful notch
#

@sinful swift what's the range within the nearest router ?

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have you also tried removing the sensor and re-pairing it, where you placed it ?

sinful swift
#

I only have the one cordinator, so a pretty simple network. The LQ is a pretty constant 35-45 which is better than other sensors that do not have this battery issue. It works fine.

dry fossil
#

Shed? So it's the sensor that's most exposed to temperature changes? That'll affect battery readings.

sinful swift
#

Yeah, but the lane gate and mailbox sensors are also outside and are not doing this.

dry fossil
#

Gotcha. Personally, I wouldn't be worried... it's not a permanent drop, so it doesn't mean much.

sinful swift
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It's up and down like a bride's nightie. I get a low battery alarm every night.

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I have a spare sensor, I might replace it tomorrow.

graceful notch
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might be something that influences the battery under the way, perhaps try the sensor in home for a day ?

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one of my aqara sensors that's living in a freezer, dropped from 97% to 57% and also fluctauates a bit between 50 & 60 %

verbal shale
#

hi ppl, I need help with zigbee2mqtt and adding a new tuya device support
I did create the file with all the info and I did put the file in config\zigbee2mqtt folder

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but its not working, I think that it never reads the file even with external_converters:
- LELLKI_TS011F_TZ3000_ps3mato.js

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I follow all the steps in zigbee2mqtt documentation

dawn sequoia
#

With zigbee2mqtt does the ikea motion detector flag motion? Default Ikea integration doesn't, only shows battery level.

Wondering if I can use those sensors for automations, also, any other info from them? They don't measure light level do they?

Thanks

sinful swift
dawn sequoia
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Thank you @sinful swift

sinful swift
dawn sequoia
#

Wonderful!

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Lux sensor would be sweet too though

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But it will do the job without

ashen coral
#

If you’re lucky you can get light/dark from the trådfri sensors as a binary value. Hue gives lux values, though.

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I think that binary value only updates on motion trigger too…

untold talon
#

Hey all this weekend I was trying to convert from the Nortek zigbee controler to a conbee II. So I deleted all the devices, and removed the zigbee integration. Now I am trying to add it back with the COnbee II device and I am getting Logger: zigpy.application
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/zigpy/application.py:78
First occurred: 11:19:48 AM (60 occurrences)
Last logged: 2:59:03 PM

Couldn't start application

obsidian sandalBOT
untold talon
#

any ideas?

austere patio
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If you don't want to wait until the next beta (or point release), remove the ZHA integration, delete /config/zigbee.db, and add it again

untold talon
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oK i WILL TRY

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🙂

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That looked like it worked, thanks

austere patio
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Why'd you switch to the Conbee?

untold talon
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The lutron Auora woudn't work with the Nortek

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There is a defect that can't be fixed and an issue with the stack of the chipset

austere patio
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Is that one of the ones that sends button presses as group commands with random group IDs?

untold talon
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Crap I re read the ussue and it's on the Conbee2 also

austere patio
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Seems like it's the group thing

molten linden
gentle flint
austere patio
molten linden
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Odd as don’t get events. Older fw worked fine too 😂. I bind them so not a big worry. But would be good to figure out

austere patio
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Ah, my bad. That's a messageSentHandler.

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I think you would have to briefly turn the coordinator into a sniffer, click the buttons, and look at the captured packets

molten linden
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Can sniff it I guess.

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Or pull out another one lol

austere patio
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You seem like you might have at least one more sitting around 😆

molten linden
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Apparently there is a bug using ezsp as a sniffer with anything above 6.7 on it I think I saw

austere patio
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Something about the frame checksums and the new version of Wireshark?

molten linden
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one of the prolific gh commenters brought it up

austere patio
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Haven't run into that problem myself, I use a nRF52840 dongle for sniffing

molten linden
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I have one of those 😂

austere patio
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If you can get it to sit in the USB port it works well

molten linden
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need to re learn the config for sniffing with it

austere patio
molten linden
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Yup had it working at one point on my Mac I think then next tried it after some updates months later and it didn’t work so need to redo the set up I think.

austere patio
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Probably homebrew Python or something breaking dependencies. You can run the executable directly with --help, it shouldn't throw any errors if it's setup correctly.

molten linden
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I’d say I’d do it post vacation (starts Monday) but a load of cc2652 are arriving too 😂

verbal shale
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hi there, i did request a few new devices in githug, does anyone can aprove tham? I did put the code for tham work with zigbee2mqtt

dry fossil
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You added them to the z2m repo? If so, the z2m people will review it... and they're on their own server.

drifting raven
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Hello my ikea remote will not pair to zigbee2mqtt

near echo
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check the batteries first. Then if they are fine, enable the debug mode in Z2m and check when pairing do you get any messages in log

thick plover
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any idea if an aqara sensor can be polled at a more frequent rate?

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or will they only change with significant changes?

sinful swift
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open/close changes for the door/window sensors are pushed instantly to HA. Temperature/humidity sensors send updates on % change (no idea what the % is).

sour shadow
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Seems to update also on time, rate of change, and other things

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I've seen mine update every 0.1C, or sometimes not update until it's been 0.2C change

random saffron
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@languid swan - reset the bulb 😉
I think the issue you have ois related to binding

pallid spear
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Hey everyone! I'm looking into a move from deCONZ to ZHA integration while continuing to use my conbee II. Is there anything I have to take care off before removing Phoscon/deCONZ from my integrations?

spring hatch
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@pallid spear Sorry for the quick OT, but as it seems to me that I read this a lot: Why do you want to do this? I'm also using a ConBee II with deCONZ

pallid spear
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I dislike the deCONZ interface and since I have to rename every sensor anyway, might as well skip the middle man

dry fossil
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Probably something to do with the myriad issues people have with deCONZ that don't exist with the others. Also, having a quicker development cycle is a bonus.

spring hatch
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I get you both, I really starting to hate Phoscon, the asking for Groups, last year I broke my hole setup while updating the stick from Phoscon was you should not do, the discrepancy between Phoscon and deCONZ where devices only works in one of them... I don't get it

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I guess this is a task for another weekend 😅

sour shadow
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The main pain point will be needing to re-pair everything

pallid spear
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@sour shadow I made a handy little checklist 🙂

sour shadow
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  1. Re-pair everything
  2. Update every automation, script, scene, etc
  3. Cry
forest arrow
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Greetings all, I had a friend recommend I use the conbee II and aqara sensors to create my home security system and was looking to see if it is a good suggestion or should I look at something else?

sour shadow
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Conbee II ... blobcsignno

forest arrow
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Figured since this is zigbee channel there would be some opinions and something might right to the top

sour shadow
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I mean, if you're going to use deCONZ it's the only choice, but if you're going to use anything else... it's not the best choice by far

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Your first decision point is - which Zigbee integration (see the pinned message)

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Once you've chosen Zigbee2MQTT or ZHA then you can pick a suitable stick

forest arrow
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ok

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will read the pinned message

sour shadow
forest arrow
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@sour shadow can I ask which you would use and recommend?

sour shadow
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Z2M and a CC2652 based stick

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Which one depends on where in the world you live

forest arrow
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cool

sour shadow
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I like having my Zigbee mesh separate from HA. Makes it easy to upgrade/downgrade/etc as I need, and reduces the risk that an HA upgrade will break my Zigbee

forest arrow
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When you say separate do you mean you use different software to manage the zigbee mesh and just intergrate it to HA for automations?

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New to the zigbee world, was trying the sonoff to zigbee and the sonoff sensors but not overy happy with their longevity, so wanting to try a different system for door and window sensors so I can have a reliable security system in the house

dry fossil
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Zigbee2MQTT manages the network and can be communicated with via MQTT. HA can also communicate via MQTT.

forest arrow
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aaaaah I get what you are saying now

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yeah I am already using some mqtt with my Shelly Devices

dry fossil
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It's great. MQTT is a standard comms protocol, so if something can talk to it, it can be controlled/monitored by anything else that can talk to MQTT.

forest arrow
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sure

sour shadow
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The pinned messages have a stack of good info, but I'm pretty happy with my Xiaomi sensors, even if they are Zigbee 1.2

dry fossil
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If something better than Z2M came along that also used MQTT, you could swap that part without moving away from HA. Likewise if you wanted to leave HA and keep Z2M.

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If you use ZHA and want to leave HA... you have to swap your whole stack.

sour shadow
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Also, with Z2M I can run two HA instances, live and test, and use all my devices from both

forest arrow
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when I searched for Xiaomi sensors a bunch of aqara stuff came up, is there a good site to see Xiaomi sensors

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that you can recommend

sour shadow
forest arrow
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i was only pointing to conbee and aqara based on recommendation but willing to try something that works well

dry fossil
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Definitely not spam, eh?

forest arrow
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ok off to Church folks thanks for the info, I am sure I will be back here to learn more

pallid spear
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Thank you guys for the encouragement, I'm now done with the transition to ZHA and it worked out well. Honest, crawling on the floor to reset the vibration sensor on my office chair was probably the worst thing about the process 🙂

oak zephyr
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@molten linden Is there a conversion to make these work? I have like 8 of them now and they're basically bricks. :-(. I should have checked better in the first place I guess. Live and learn. Anyway, can I send information that can assist with making those devices work? They're such a nice form factor and would love to be able to make use of them.

languid swan
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Hi, I'm running ConBee2 + ZHA. I've changed battery in Ikea Switch (TRADFRI on/off switch by IKEA of Sweden), and I had to pair it again. I've paired it trough Ikea outlet (TRADFRI control outlet by IKEA of Sweden), but now this switch control this outlet. Even when there is no automaton assigned to this outlet. Ho to disable controlling that outlet with this switch ?
screenshot https://i.imgur.com/Fu0Ig4s.png

oak zephyr
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@molten linden Reminder, this is regarding the Zigbee motion sensor, ZM-RT201 and ZHA.

molten linden
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This is where you’d want to look, you can submit an issue with the required info. https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers also use that signature block to look through the existing quirks for the tuya devices, if there is one that is similar it may mean just dropping in a new model code to get it to work. I have a blitzwolf tuya based motion sensor that has a working quirk for example.

oak zephyr
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As you can guess I am very new to Zigbee and ZHA, basically tinkering at this point. I have to try and decipher this page. Can't I just buy someone one of these little motion sensors and they make it work for me? 😄

dry fossil
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You might have to pay their hourly rate too 😉

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Developers aren't cheap.

sour shadow
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Or, buy a device that's known to work

slender turtle
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@austere patio The issue with what seems a corrupted zigbee.db has occured once again, it seems to have happend after a clean shutdown of unraid. I would assume the .db got corrupted because the signal unraid gives to the HA vm isn't shutting it down properly.

austere patio
trail warren
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oh lord, can someone refresh me on how to add a device to zigbee2mqtt on core

sour shadow
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Through the Z2M UI

slender turtle
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@austere patio sent it

austere patio
slender turtle
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@sour dagger i sent you the pastebin from the moment I enable ZHA and tried to attach the Conbee II

trail warren
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I put the configuration changes in HA config yaml or the Z2M config file?

sour shadow
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For Zigbee2MQTT it goes in the Z2M config file

uneven ruin
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anyone familiar with the lutron smartlight dimmer? Z3-1BRL

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I added all the lights I want to control to a group I defined inside ZHA

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then manage clusters bind group

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the on/off works but the dim does not

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If I manually bind each light to the dimmer the dim works but the connection isn't fantastic so it misses lights at random

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I mostly allow adaptive_lighting to control the lights but every once in a while a quick manual adjustment is wanted.

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I'm trying to keep it purely on the zigbee network and avoid automations, they're very slow

uneven ruin
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I think its the lights, zha doesn't appear to have bound correctly

fresh shard
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So I am trying to get my HUSBZB-1 working with Zigbee2MQTT on an Odroid-N2+ running HassOS, and I'm getting this error Error while starting zigbee-herdsman Anyone have any clues?

sour shadow
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Initial development started on experimental (pre-alpha stage) support for various adapters based on Silicon Labs EM35X and EFR32MG SoC families

fresh shard
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Great thanks @sour shadow

sour shadow
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You know me, always happy to be the bearer of bad news agooglethumbsup

mighty river
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hi, does anybody know how to set a hue bulb in pairing mode?

sour shadow
mighty river
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@sour shadow Tack för extremt snabbt svar!! 🙂

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@sour shadow Sorry was so happy that it solved my issue so fast that i wrote in Swedish. I said, Thank you for the extrem fast answer !

sour shadow
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That's fine, I can use Google Translate ablobjoy

proud pagoda
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Having a strange one with zigbee and mqtt, I'm getting the values in fine, but for some reason I'm getting a quirk. Humidity is working, but temp keeps coming up with 0, but the history is showing dots rather than a stepped graph

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Do I need to retain values? but using the same settings on both humidity and temp

dense elbow
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i updated my conbee II stick today and now it is showing as not connected in deconz/phoscon - anything i can do?
running HA OS on Pi4
deCONZ logs keep saying "failed to reconnect to network"

proud pagoda
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Oh, wait, I'm calling temp and humidity as different mqtt things, but is the humidity grabbing it first?

proud pagoda
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Hmmm, apparently not, it seems to read the right value, flash it on the screen, and then go back to 0 (but only the temp, the humidity is working fine)

fresh shard
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Is Endpoint equal to channel in ZHA?

austere patio
fresh shard
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Dont know exactly what I am talking about is listed on the create group page of ZHA.

austere patio
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Endpoints have clusters, which are what expose functionality. If you have a lightbulb, it'd likely have just one functional endpoint that has a level control and a on/off cluster. If you have a two button remote, it'll (ideally) have one endpoint per button, with each endpoint having one on/off cluster.

fresh shard
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Ok well it reffered to End Point as 11 So I thought maybe it was a channel since all my devices showed the same.

balmy rapids
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Hi, am using conbee2 with synology dsm7 and z2m... Managed to pair 10+ aqara wall switches.. Now i'm trying to pair my aqara wireless switch and ikea trådfri wireless switch... Ikea tradfri pairs almost instantly. But some how the Aqara wireless i have issues, getting it to show up in Z2M devices list...

raw garden
#

It seems like most zigbee repeaters are afterthought plugs in smart plugs and light bulbs...I am installing new plugs and lighting and looking for powered repeaters any suggestions? for example - a wall plug that has a repeater in it, not the wall wart retrofit plug. USA 15 amp

dry fossil
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There are lists of known-supported devices in the pins. However, I don't think Zigbee wall sockets are common in any country.

sour shadow
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They do exist, I just checked one of those lists and found UK, EU, and USA options

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How many go to 15A though... shrug

violet dagger
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not many

graceful notch
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hue plugs are 10A rated

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osram smart+ are 16A rated

dry fossil
graceful notch
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that's all I know 😉

dry fossil
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I take it back... I knew about the Aurora UK ones. They're just nigh impossible to buy unless you go through other firms and pay ridiculously inflated prices 😄

sour shadow
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Yeah, the joys of a limited market

dry fossil
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Ouch.

graceful notch
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and the ledvance smart+ plugs ?

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those should be cheaper

ivory hound
#

why not get some gosund wifi with power monitoring and flash them with tasmota?

dry fossil
ivory hound
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yah i've use those

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they suck mostly

stable ermine
thick plover
sour shadow
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Yeah, I do like my Z-Wave one that's USB powered for nice smooth, regular updates

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But hey, it cost 4 times as much

raw garden
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Yes, that is exactly what I am looking for thank you @stable ermine

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One of the reviews even says it works with his HA

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Honey says it dropped in price too from $43 to $36

proud pagoda
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Hi, I'm having hassles with a tuya 4 button switch, I get the mqtt message nice and cleanly, but it sets the state as on (as expected I guess), is there a way to change the state back to off (so it becomes a push button switch rather than remaining on). Not sure if it can be done within the value_template section or if I have to do a automation for it (would rather not)

proud pagoda
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So I'm heading back down the zigbee2mqtt route, have installed edge and now looking for how to have multiple coordinators

sour shadow
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You can't

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One Zigbee2MQTT instance, one coordinator

proud pagoda
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Damn, and no chance of multiple z2m instanceS?

sour shadow
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So, multiple instances is the only option

proud pagoda
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Oh that I don't mind at all

sour shadow
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Which is trivial if you don't use add-ons

proud pagoda
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I use addons 😛

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BUT I don't mind do it manually to be fair

sour shadow
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Just ensure they each use a different base topic

proud pagoda
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Could I run a pi4 and have a stack of instances on it pointing to sonoff zigbees?

sour shadow
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Sure, but those are ... not great

proud pagoda
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The tube dude hasn't got any in stock yet, so moved from 2531 to sonoff for now

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I don't mind littering the properties with sonoff initially

sour shadow
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It'll work

proud pagoda
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Right, thank you for that sir 🙂 I'm off to dig out another PI4 and all the sonoffs 😛

forest arrow
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Greetings folks just got on the mailing list for the zzh! CC2652R Multiprotocol RF Stick and wanted to see if anyone here might know about the general wait times for fulfillment?

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@sour shadow yesterday you sent some links with the gear you currently used and I was not sure which door and window sensors you would recommend based on the page. Do you have a specific door and window sensor you might recommend?

sour shadow
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Both Xiaomi and Konke work fine

rocky mauve
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Hi, I’m having device problems (hue motion sensors) since changing out a conbee for zb stick on zha. Whats the correct process to completely remove all zigbee set up and start again?

austere patio
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This won't erase your Zigbee network. The procedure for that depends on the radio you're using.

rocky mauve
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I’m finding the motion sensors are just getting stuck on occupancy = on. Everything was solid for a long time until the conbee started disconnecting and reconnecting. I wonder if part of old config is lying around. How do I delete network? I look on the radios manual? Its popp zb-stick.

austere patio
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Deleting the network probably won't help

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If it's getting stuck, you likely just aren't receiving the occupancy clear message due to interference or poor connectivity. Do you have any routers?

drifting raven
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What i had to do to fix this is run home assistant on a VM becasuse before it was running on my Pi4

uneven ruin
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I just installed one the other day, working well for met replacing a weak little plugin

raw garden
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Thank you for the info

small dune
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Hey everyone, how can i add an attribute to an ikea tradfri light bulb (Power on behaviour) through zha. I've tried custom quirks but i can't figure it out.

austere patio
small dune
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This was under the model attribute: TRADFRI bulb E26 WS opal 1000lm

austere patio
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You said that you tried writing a custom quirk for it. Do you have one that at least matches the device?

small dune
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There's the one on the zha-quirks github

austere patio
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I'm not seeing any quirks for a 1000lm Trådfri bulb

small dune
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zha device handlers github actually my bad

austere patio
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They're the same. Quirks have to exactly match a specific device, including all endpoints, clusters, and especially the model and manufacturer name

small dune
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Ooooh ok and yeah for sure

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The attribute is part of the OnOff cluster and is 0x4003 and it controls what the light does when it actually gets power. So like On/Off/Previous

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The OnOff cluster isn't 0x4003 btw

austere patio
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Yeah, this is a part of the ZCLv7 spec

small dune
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Oooh Ok. Thanks for the help! I went into deconz to change it anyways i just wanted it to be easier to access for everyone. Do you have any idea when the pr will the merged or is it still a work in progress?

austere patio
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It's a lot of changes so not sure. I think the power on level control and on/off behavior may be useful enough to just split out into its own PR?

small dune
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Thanks for the help! I looked into this but got kind of confused how i would edit the zigpy library and i'm not proficient enough to open a pr lol

austere patio
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Ah. Well, in that case the fix for this will be merged eventually

small dune
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Ok, thats good with me. I just used the deconz add-on to change it. Thanks Again!

rocky mauve
drifting raven
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Ah I had issues with that because I could not change my sensor report times

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It was reporting every hour now it is doing every 10 seconds

rocky mauve
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It was working satisfactory for many months previously. But I noticed a hue motion sensor had gone unavailable and another was reporting occupancy, but then the occupancy doesnt clear in home assistant (physical sensor seems to be working OK). At the same time this is happening some hue dimmer switches I have connected are working fine and triggers happen quickly when I am pressing the buttons so I’m a bit lost with it other than to start again.

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Seems not coincidence several devices all of a sudden have issue and I recently (couple days ago) switched to this elelabs device and readded the devices.

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The devices seem to be reporting ok again right now without me doing anything. Funny also as two different sensors got stuck on occupancy detected for the same 2 hour period last night

stable beacon
#

I am having some issues with ZHA and registering IKEA devices (have tested with a bulb and a shortcut button)
I have done the reset thing on the devices but I simply dont see anything happen.

What is the best way to debug this? Is it possible to see registrations coming in to ZHA in anyway?

solid inlet
#

What would be the correct/best way of firmware upgrade a ConbeeII using ZHA?

stable beacon
austere patio
hard quiver
#

Hi All, please tell me if I’m in te wrong place/channel but I am wondering if there are people around here with experience with the Xiaomi Aqara Smart Plug. I have one connected with the conbee II and it is showing up in home assistant, the only thing is… this plug should also show consumption data but the 2 entities in home assistant that are ment for this show: unknown and not available. Anyone recognises this? I used the deconz integration by the way 🙂

rocky mauve
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Although one of these devices is only maybe 5m away

forest arrow
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for more granular control of devices, I assume that zigbee2mqtt might be the best way to go?

sour shadow
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Depends on what you mean by "granular control", but it and ZHA are generally good choices

austere patio
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Last I checked, Z2M lets you configure attribute reporting settings and change the network channel more easily

sour shadow
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The channel can be changed in the UI, yes, and reporting is also an easy UI thing

gentle flint
sleek sedge
#

oops meant to post to zwave

slender turtle
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Hi, wondering if anyone knows/uses ser2net/socat for getting a stick into ZHA. I have ser2net running on a pi4 with 2001:raw:0:/dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2440xxxx:38400 8DATABITS NONE 1STOPBIT. It's just not clear what to enter at the manual path screen of ZHA.

uneven ruin
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best practice to run z2m on separate hardware or docker just fine? I have both as options

solid hollow
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I've connected a hue sensor to ZHA and I've been poking around the cluster info. In the hue app I can set a sensitivity on the motion sensors - I'm assuming there is some cluster/ZHA way of doing this - but I'm not sure where to find more info. Would this be in the device driver? Or is there quirk? Thanks for any help you can offer - i'm happy to look through code/github if i can get a starting point

austere patio
mystic tulip
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is the Conbee II any good or should I hold out for a CC2652R ?

austere patio
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Fewer people have problems with non-Conbee coordinators

mystic tulip
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so what can i get that's available now

austere patio
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If none of the CC2652 or CC1352 adapters are available, there are a few Silicon Labs adapters (e.g. Elelabs) that work just as well with ZHA for 99.9% of devices

mystic tulip
ivory hound
#

ELU013 is very good, one of the best in my experience @mystic tulip

plain heart
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Looking to extend my home assistant from security cameras to a few other things like lights, temp sensors, motion sensors but i'm using HA OS as a windows hyper-v vm so I don't have USB. What are the best options around network (wifi/lan) based hubs to control zigbee devices?

dry fossil
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For network-based coordinators, you're looking at either the Sonoff version (not so good) or tube's version (he builds them himself, so there's often a waitlist).

ivory hound
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else your choices are very limited at best

deft basalt
#

Hi all,
Hope I can get some help here. Currently struggling to get the RaspBee II running. I'm using HaasOS on a Pi4, setup was rather easy.
Installed the AddOn, and currently stuck on getting the API Key's. Figured out that the RaspBee might not be recognised / connected, as it shows "Firmware - Not connected" in the Phoscon application. Just for fun, I booted the DeConz / Phoscon os on a different sd. Everyting seems to be working an I could connect sensor as well. Not sure, what exactly Im doing wrong here.

umbral crystal
#

Hey guys, Just got an iolloi zigbee dimmer (EU version) for testing purposes and can't get the darn thing to connect to hassio. I have the official ESXi VM (i think i've downloaded an OVA or VMDK and just boot it up, can't remember as it's been a while). I use the CC2531 passed through the VM if that makes a difference and all other zigbee devices connected without a glitch.

Things i've tried:

  • pressing the reset button 2,3,4,5,6 times
  • resetting to factory defaults and trying again
  • bringing the dimmer close to the antenna of the CC2531 (like under 3 cm close)

Did anyone have any luck with this dimmer? or can you recommend one that does a similar job? (no neutral, can turn the lights on/off + dimming all on the dimmer itself, can have cabled external switches added, in wall mounting)

The dimmer: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0375/3997/1207/products/ID-EU20FW09-1_1024x1024@2x.jpg

austere patio
ocean karma
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Old post, but were you ever able to figure this out, other Will? I have a Kwikset 910 in both Zigbee and Z-Wave Plus, using a Nortek HUSBZB-1. Like you, my Zigbee version has never been able to report its status, but it does reliably lock/unlock.

green star
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Nope

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Also gave up because the door it’s on I use very infrequently so not that big a deal

mystic tulip
austere patio
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Do you have just a single coordinator and a bunch of sensors? No routers at all?

gentle flint
mystic tulip
vital ermine
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heya! how can i migrate from a sonoff zbbridge to and CC2652P2 usb stick?

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(without loosing entities)

austere patio
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bellows backup -d socket://sonoff.ip.addr:port will create a backup of your bridge, python -m zigpy_znp.tools.network_restore /dev/... -i /path/to/backup.json will restore it to your stick

vital ermine
sour shadow
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He's the source of many magics for Zigbee...

vital ermine
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how do i enter a python env? lol

austere patio
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Easier to do with a second computer

vital ermine
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i got HA running in a VM. i can reach the terminal prompt but it isnt your ordinary prompt

austere patio
vital ermine
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thx ill have a look

austere patio
#

But there are instructions for how to do it within HA OS

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You'll probably have to do pip install bellows==0.25.0 after you're done to bring the bellows package back to the normal version

vital ermine
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thx! tomorrow ill dive deep

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now.... get it back working again with old coordinator lol

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and restoring VM hehe

plain heart
# austere patio Or build your own ethernet hub by just plugging any coordinator USB stick into a...

I sense a common thread among the answers i'm getting. A little disappointing that "get a PI" is the de facto answer that I seem to get. If I had a Pi I would be using that not a hyper-v vm and I dont want to pay $150+ for a Pi, powersupply, SD Card on top of the cost of getting any sensors etc... I thought that a zigbee hub that I saw on aliexpress might have been the answer, and access that through a tuya integration, but no, that specifically excludes zigbee hubs, and I cant for the life of me see why.

austere patio
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The "hub" hubs have firmware that sits between you and the Zigbee radio so you're not able to connect to devices that the manufacturer of the hub doesn't explicitly support

dry fossil
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There's no point being sulky about the responses you're being given. People are suggesting solutions to your problem.

plain heart
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sorry, I wasnt intending to be sulky, appologies If I came across that way, text isnt exactly the best medium for getting across tone. yes there is a little frustration there but not the amount that seems to have come across.

dry fossil
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Unfortunately, using a VM makes things tricky. Other options would be to consider using another installation method for HA. I quite like Docker. All you lose is add-ons, and they're just containers anyway (so you can run that software yourself).

plain heart
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so, in the "create-your-own-not-hub-hub" camp, can you point me at any resources you might know about?

austere patio
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You just have to adjust the baud to match what your chosen adapter requires. Usually 115200.

plain heart
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as I dont have any linux pc's laying around, I guess i'm looking for a windows version of ser2net or downloading the source and trying to compile it in windows myself. hopefully I can find windows versions of any dependencies.

austere patio
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Hmm. I recall reading somewhere that the WSL subsystem lets you access COM ports so I guess you could try ser2net with that

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But unless you plan on keeping that Windows computer running 24/7, I'd consider getting even an older pi (or another SBC). You don't need much processing power to tunnel serial over TCP. I'm sure even a first generation pi would work.

plain heart
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the windows pc IS running 24x7, as it runs my plex server and blueiris for my nvr

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and has hyper-v installed so I can run the HA os.

austere patio
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Windows-native COM port to TCP software looks a little iffy so I'd give ser2net via WSL a try

plain heart
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yeah. I'm looking into that now. otherwise i'll just have to shelve the project till christmas and get myself a PI 4 as a present and migrate HA to that.

dry fossil
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Or even better, a small NUC.

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Pi's can be handy when you have nothing better... but an NUC is way more powerful and versatile.

plain heart
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that really is ramping up the price. I guess I'll pose this question here although its not the right channel for it, but since we are talking about it anyway. were I to go to a nuc or a pi4, what would be your recommended install method. base hass os, or linux install with ha docker? i'm guessing the most flexible way would be linux base with either docker or core install, but simplest would be haos?

dry fossil
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For flexibility... Debian (headless) with Docker. Then you can run whatever you want on it, either as containers or directly on the host.

molten linden
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I’m on vacation now but got a load of cc2652 modules delivered Monday, and will have batches of my Ethernet connected coordinators available next week for sure.

mystic tulip
austere patio
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You can put the coordinator in a better location than your HA server

molten linden
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And don’t have to deal with usb pass through issues with a vm. And reliability/interference of wifi (sonoff zbb)

stable ermine
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For the Ethernet adapter, connection uses ezsp adapter like the sonoff zbb, correct? Will I need to re-pair devices, switching from zbb to one?

molten linden
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I won’t have any ezsp/efr32 devices for a bit, but scroll up a bit #zigbee-archived message puddy has some magic to move to the cc2652 ones which I will have next week.

foggy lodge
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Augh.

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Whenever I restart my synology, it breaks zigbee2mqtt.

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I am trying to remember how the bloody hell I fixed it last time, because in a loop right now.

foggy lodge
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Yeah going to reach out to community here and see if someone can help me figure what the heck is going on. When I restart the synology nas, zigbee2mqtt integration dies. I fixed it somehow when it did it before, but I cant manage to do it this time. Cleared the docker container (kept persistent files, so same configuration.yaml), then went to reinstall via (executed within the /drive/docker/zigbee2mqtt/ folder) :

docker run -it -v $(pwd)/data:/app/data --device=/dev/ttyUSB0 -e TZ=America/Edmonton --privileged=true --restart=always koenkk/zigbee2mqtt

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I'm having a hell of a time finding information to parse out what is going on with getting an EADDRNOTAVAIL error. I've flipped to some random ports a few times and it throws same error for every selected port.

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Going to continue to try to find some documentation for what is going on here / how to fix, but definitely feeling flummoxed right now. If anyone has any general advice or could point me in a direction, would be appreciated.

austere patio
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Seems like something is already listening on port 8400

foggy lodge
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I've tried 8200 (which it was working on before), 8400, and 8600

austere patio
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And they all fail with EADDRNOTAVAIL?

foggy lodge
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Yeah, same result for all of them

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I'm going through a sudo netstat -lp list to see if theres anything flagging on those ports

austere patio
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Is Started frontend on port 192.168.1.202:8400 correct?

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Shouldn't it say Started frontend on port 8400?

foggy lodge
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Hm. I am seeing nginx listening on 8200. 8400 should be open though

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Hm? Checking.

austere patio
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I don't use Z2M but perhaps the local IP address has changed or the docker container is running before the network interface is up?

foggy lodge
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Actually yeah that's weird. Let me check my config

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I didn't change anything between it working, restarting the NAS, and reinstalling.

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(I did revert the 8400 port to 8200 for this)

austere patio
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Hmm. What happens if you try changing the host to 0.0.0.0 or removing that option entirely so that it (hopefully) binds only to the loopback interface?

foggy lodge
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Ah! Right, thank you. I'll check that

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Going to try removing host.

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Okay. Interestingly, that seemed to work from what I can tell. However its getting into a loop now where its failing to connect to the mqtt server. I had a similar issue in the past, but I fixed it by swapping 192.168.1.202:port to localhost:port. Going to see where I can dig into on this and then hit the zigbee2mqtt channel if I cant get past this wall

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Appreciate the help puddly; progress made! Just.. Weird connection issues now haha

foggy lodge
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As a general update (posted to the zigbee2mqtt channel, but this is a bit more active), current state of the logs: https://hastebin.com/yilaroyave.rust

configuration.yaml updated both mqtt and frontend server to localhost. That didn't get me further progress until I added --network=host to the docker run command. Now I'm.. At a new stuck point. But its (arguably!) progress, so I am going to see what I can delve from this.

lunar tulip
dry fossil
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Depends if they're using Hyper-V for anything else. AFAIK, you can't run both.

plain heart
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alas, I do have an additional linux vm which is running pihole, unbound, unifi, and deepstack.

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as mono suggested. I'm probably going to have to look at waiting a little longer and invest in something standalone, like a PI or a Nuc.

lunar tulip
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Well sounds like you don't need Hyper-V for either. It was just an option as Hyper-V does not natively support usb passthrough. There are hacks to do it, but I have no idea of their cost/reliability. My point really was Hyper-V is not the only hypervison you can run on Windows machine and changing it would solve your problem. 😋

sleek sedge
# lunar tulip One option would be to move the VM from hyper-v to something like Virtualbox tha...

I just moved my usb devices off my main windows virtual machine HA install to a Pi and installed zig/zwave2mqtt on the Pi. USB passthrough would flake out randomly after a day or so, and I didn't like that if I rebooted my windows server I had to unplug the usb device to get it to work in virtualbox again. That ruled out ever remotly rebooting the server or if my UPS dies from a power outage my door and window sensors would never come back online. I would highly recomend not using VB and usb passthrough.

lunar tulip
foggy lodge
# foggy lodge As a general update (posted to the zigbee2mqtt channel, but this is a bit more a...

For future documentation for myself / other people searching this, was able to .. backwards kludge when I added back in frontend: host: specification. I put it before the port listing, and I added --network=host to the install line. Not entirely sure why that didn't work before, and host: / port: order doesn't follow the zigbee2mqtt configuration example, so it should be fine. But in future: include --network=host, and if that fails, flip host:/port: order.

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Though going to do some experimentation with restarting syno later to see if it breaks again

naive ivy
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Are there any good ways to try to reconnect a ZHA bulb that has gone unavailable? It's still responding to group commands just fine, but the individual bulb suddenly became unavailable in HA a few days ago. Do I just have to factory reset it and re-add?

austere patio
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If it responds to group commands but isn't directly controllable, it's probably affected by the Silicon Labs lockup bug. Nothing you can really do but reboot it.

mellow geode
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(but yeah, power cycle it)

naive ivy
mellow geode
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yeah, some LEDVANCE products are still the old OSRAM Lightify products. some others are just bad lol

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Does it have a QR code on it?

naive ivy
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Yeah I got a few from the very same Amazon listing that identify as OSRAM, they've both annoyed me at times. I can't remember if the one in question has the QR code or not, but I think it does. I can't drag out a stepladder at the moment to check unfortunately

mellow geode
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the ones with the QR code should be newer (Zigbee 3.0)

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i've had some LEDVANCE LED strips that worked fine but transition and color were broken sometimes

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some "OSRAM Lightify" (bought as LEDVANCE) garden lightning turned out to be horrible. I just bought multiple GLEDOPTO Pro RGBW controllers (Zigbee 3.0) which work much better (after you've convinced their one support guy to send you a firmware update)

mellow geode
naive ivy
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I've had some occasional network flakiness, plus the fact that HA lost the ability to trigger colorloop after a bulb firmware update, even though my RGBGenie remote can trigger it. I'm starting to think about replacing the controller, maybe most of the bulbs too. Currently using an HUSBZB-1

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I forget, is it only ZB 3.0 that's encrypted? Because the bulb in question does list encryption related clusters

mellow geode
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afaik Zigbee is encrypted in general

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if you're using the qr code on the device to pair it with ZHA (the service call), there might be some added security though

naive ivy
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Gotcha. I'll have to look for the code tomorrow. I know another bulb I installed yesterday has the code, but I don't remember which ones came out of the same box

mellow geode
# naive ivy I've had some occasional network flakiness, plus the fact that HA lost the abili...

regarding replacing controllers/bulbs: most of my lights are Philips Hue at this point and although the prices aren't great, they seem to work the best for me (and in a couple of months, they'll release new brighter bulbs). I would only recommend getting a model with "Bluetooth" though, as I've had some connection issues with the non-Bluetooth ones (and the Bluetooth+Zigbee ones are Zigbee 3.0 with proper attribute reporting and so on)

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the Bluetooth/newer bulbs are Silabs and although I still didn't get around to actually test it, they've never had the "Silabs lockup bug" in daily use

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oh and the firmware updates can be pulled via one of two APIs (firmware is on the zigbee-ota repo)

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IKEA stuff also works mostly and they promised to fix the lockup bug (which I have had sometimes).
for me, they (visually) always drop out of groups in Home Assistant (when restarting)

naive ivy
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I'm definitely leaning towards Hue, especially if they have effects. Just a bit heavier price point.

rocky mauve
# mystic tulip the ELU013 ? what's the range on this sucker, there is no antenna..

I just switched from a conbee to this. In fairness I have the dongle plugged directly into the Pi4 so not on an extension or anything, but then this was how I operated the conbee for a long time also without issue. Immediately I started having issues with devices going unavailable or not reporting so the reception does not seem to rival the conbee. But I just tried it in a 90 degree USB adapter so its now pointing upwards and proud of the Pi’s case and it seems OK now. I’m talking devices <8 meters away and only hollow plasterboard wall between then. The device I purchased claims 100m range line of sight.

mystic tulip
rocky mauve
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ELU013

mystic tulip
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what was wrong with the conbee?

rocky mauve
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It was technically working fine

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But in my logs it looked like it kept disconnecting to the host usb and renegotiating over and over

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I do not actually understand what it meant but folks here said it does not surprise them, more people report issues with conbee than this one so I switched on the basis.

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I did also order one from elelabs but that still hasnt arrived and this one seemed to be the same thing and they arent being shipped out of china..

mystic tulip
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I mean considering

sour shadow
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That's the previous generation of chipset, avoid 😉

mystic tulip
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ok

sour shadow
umbral crystal
gusty pike
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anyone know why neighbor links woukdnt be showing up in deconz? all ive got is a cluster of rectangles. no li es between anything.

obsidian sandalBOT
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deCONZ by dresden elektronik is a software that communicates with ConBee/RaspBee Zigbee gateways and exposes Zigbee devices that are connected to the gateway. Our #zigbee-archived channel is a good place to ask about using it with Home Assistant, but they also have their own Discord server.

Command '~deconz' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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They may know over there, but probably it's a reporting/UI bug

tall patio
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Hey guys,

I am a noob. But i would like to connect one of those cheap digital tuya TRVs. Now i dont want to use the manufacturer's portal. As that would imo defeat the use of HA.

Is it a pain in the ass to connect these devices directly to the HA hub using zigBee?
Does anyone have experience with this? Is it reliable?

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/tuya/

violet dagger
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it is not but it can be a pain in the ass, all depends on how dilligent you are at following instructions

tall patio
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Decent i would say. I am a programmer myself idk if that would help as i have little experience with HA.

sour shadow
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Starting point is to check the pinned messages about known working hardware

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If your device is listed there then getting it working with the integrations that support it should be simple enough

rocky mauve
grand abyss
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looking for some pointers to where I should start troubleshooting, running zigbee2mqtt (Current version: 1.18.1-1 as addon) and trying to join a TuYa TS011F_plug (atleast that is what I recon it is by the labeling), documentation says its supported but log says "Device '0xb4e3f9fffe19eb70' with Zigbee model 'TS011F' and manufacturer name '_TZ3000_cphmq0q7' is NOT supported". Am I running some old code or is there some definition files somewhere that I need updating? Or do I just have a wierd almost, but not quite working fake device?

sour shadow
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That's not the current version

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You're running with the old add-on repo and should have updated back in ... February I think