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mellow geode
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Also sorry this even happened in the first place.

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Explanation on why is in the PR

olive fulcrum
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dont worry about it.. HA is a tinkerer's tool... stuff happens when you... tinker 🙂

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(as i sit here soldering my ESP8266 custom sensors)

austere patio
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Should be. Did you make an __init__.py file in the custom_zha_quirks folder?

mellow geode
austere patio
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Oh, you're right. It looks like the key wasn't added to ZHA's config schema.

fickle elbow
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Is it absolutely necessary to flash cc2531 to use with Hassio? Trying to setup zigbee2mqtt and encountered that I need to flash it.

austere patio
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It won't do anything until you flash it with firmware

fickle elbow
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@austere patio Not even if I use another approach than zigbee2mqtt? Say, I only interface to it and the RPI has some form of software controller.

austere patio
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Z2M and ZHA both talk to the CC2531 over serial

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If the CC2531 doesn't have firmware, it doesn't talk to anything

fickle elbow
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hmm.. Maybe my JLink programmer works with it.

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Yea, but I figured maybe TI has put some factory firmware on it that at least gives raw data over UART or something.

austere patio
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Once you flash it it does have a bootloader but for some reason they all come completely blank

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UART is how Z2M and ZHA control it. The CC2531 is its own USB-serial chip so without firmware it's pretty dead

fickle elbow
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Strange, they market it as a USB Zigbee sniffer. One would think that you could use it with wireshark or similar out of the box.

sour shadow
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Well, not wireshark natively

austere patio
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The sniffer firmware for it has no bootloader so you won't be able to flash anything over it without a debugger cable

sour shadow
fickle elbow
sour shadow
austere patio
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I'm sure there would be some improvements in that area if the toolchain and IDE were not "contact us for pricing"...

fickle elbow
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Apparently it has a zStack12 firmware on it already. But very old.

austere patio
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If it already has firmware then you're all set

fickle elbow
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Yea, worst case, I can research if my JLink is compatible with TI chipsets.

austere patio
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The version number just says what Zigbee spec it's implementing. The 3.0 firmware is "newer" but breaks.

obsidian sandalBOT
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The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

Command '~cc253x' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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TBH the chipset breaks 😛

fickle elbow
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ok haha damn it 😄

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Then a proper TI programmer it is

austere patio
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But if you want to try the 3.0 firmware, you can flash it over serial

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Since the Z-Stack firmware does have a bootloader

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No tangible benefits though

fickle elbow
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I'm happy as long as it works, no matter the firmware version

sour shadow
stone echo
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Anyone else seeing this error after upgrading to 2021.4: "Error setting up entry HubZ for zha"

austere patio
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(Or use the TI Windows program)

austere patio
fickle elbow
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@austere patio indeed it does. Just plugged it in to my mac, it shows up in /dev

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Tried it now, turns red if I press one of the buttons

austere patio
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So it looks like the stick should work out of the box with Z2M or ZHA

sterile sleet
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tindie is the recommended shop to buy zig ah for EU?

sour shadow
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It's the only place until he's selling it direct

fickle elbow
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This stick I bought is so cheap, they didn't even wash the flux off the board at the factory 😄

sour shadow
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The CC253x boards are typically $5 or so

stone echo
austere patio
fickle elbow
austere patio
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Lovingly hand-crafted

stone echo
austere patio
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That is unexpected

austere patio
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What version of HA did you upgrade from?

stone echo
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2021.3.4

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Should i backup my zigbee.db and do another restart?

austere patio
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Nothing interesting changed with ZHA/zigpy between 2021.3.0 and the latest version

edgy minnow
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Hi Puddly just updated and also getting error on zha

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restored full backup to previous version and still error persists.

austere patio
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What error?

edgy minnow
austere patio
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Hmm, that is interesting

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Are you also coming from 2021.3.something?

edgy minnow
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yes

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restored full backup to 2021.3.4 and zha remains broken

austere patio
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The database contains no sensitive information, it's just info about the devices on the network. Everything else is on your stick.

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Can either of you PM me your zigbee.db databases? You can see the contents with sqlite3 /path/to/zigbee.db .dump.

stone echo
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would you like the zigbee.db file or the dump?

austere patio
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The file would be best. You can send it with Discord via DM, uploads are disabled for this channel.

stone echo
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give me a second

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PM'ed you the file 🙂

austere patio
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Thanks, I'll see what I can find

stone echo
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Thanks

edgy minnow
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@austere patio pm with copy of db sent

austere patio
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Have either of you removed devices recently?

stone echo
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By the way it seems to start fine if i rename the zigbee.db file and reboot HA

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yes

austere patio
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Yeah, but your network will be...broken

stone echo
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or re-added a device

austere patio
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Since that file contains all of the discovered device information for every device on your network. Without it ZHA/zigpy doesn't know anything about your network and will treat every device on it as unknown, if anything sends something back to your server

stone echo
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okay

austere patio
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You seem to have some stray entries that are just breaking how the database is loaded

stone echo
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okay, is it possible to remove/fix the entries?

austere patio
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Yeah, it seems like just the one

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If you run sqlite3 /path/to/zigbee.db and then DELETE FROM attributes WHERE ieee = '90:fd:9f:ff:fe:71:71:70';, and then .quit, it should load fine after that

stone echo
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can you explain what is stray about that entry?

austere patio
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It says that the device with IEEE address 90:fd:9f:ff:fe:71:71:70 has a cached attribute

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But there is no device with that IEEE in the database

stone echo
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okay

austere patio
edgy minnow
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no

austere patio
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Well, before last restarting HA?

edgy minnow
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i just restored the full vm as wife going nuts over no lights @ 11.48pm lol

austere patio
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Running the same command but with the IEEE address should fix your problem as well

edgy minnow
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back on 2020.12.1

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zha working again

austere patio
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And you say you have not removed any devices since December?

edgy minnow
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i replaced some bulbs a month ago so need to reconfigure those and then make full image backup. then will try upgrade again and see what happens.

austere patio
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Do either of you mind if I attach your zigbee.db databases to a GitHub issue?

stone echo
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@austere patio that totally worked 👍

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It's okay by me 🙂

austere patio
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Thanks, should be fixed in the next HA release

azure tinsel
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I'm also seeing an update and using zha. So if I'm correct I should wait with the update?

jolly narwhal
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Come to the dark side, we have decoupling and zigbee2mqtt

austere patio
stone echo
azure tinsel
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We need a descent zigbee backup system for zha. Im no fan of deconz but the backup and restore function is working pretty well. Is some random ha update can break the whole zigbee config then I'm f@#-$. My girlfriend is going to kill me... Not one light will come on anymore

jolly narwhal
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@stone echo it already did, zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
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No HA upgrade has ever broken my Z2M install

jolly narwhal
stone echo
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isn't zigbee2mqtt more like zwave2mqtt?

sour shadow
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Hell, even if HA is down, I can use Z2M's own UI to control lights and sockets

austere patio
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This specific issue isn't related to an HA update at all...

azure tinsel
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That doesn't fix the problem zha is having if it breaks when upgrading. If this is the case the update should be removed

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Oh ok

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What is causing this issue

austere patio
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Most of those issues are reported by Conbee users, where restarting the stick makes it get wacky, from what I understand

sour shadow
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Ah, well

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If there's a stick that's a worse choice than a CC2530/31...

jolly narwhal
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Have I got news for you

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🤣

amber gull
molten linden
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I hear pucks are good😂

azure tinsel
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Conbee sticks are wacky as hell when rebooted Indeed

amber gull
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That was mean, I just love to hate the name/logo

jolly narwhal
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At this point a serial connected guitar seems better than the conbee

azure tinsel
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But puddly what was causing this issue with these 2 gentlemen? Is it save to update?

austere patio
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The only part of the update process that would cause this error to maybe show up is the HA restart

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So if you've rebooted HA some time in the past and nothing broke, you won't have any issues

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I think it's caused by zigpy updating its database schema in early 2020 but if you have a network from before then, some database constraints aren't migrated/created and removing devices can leave junk behind (in rare cases?), causing ZHA to fail to start up

molten linden
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I ran into similar thing a couple weeks ago with a user who was testing one of my coordinators with zha, and it would not start. Problem was an leftover zigbee.db from an old zha network was still in the config folder.

austere patio
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The database already existing shouldn't affect anything, I think? Maybe some devices not initializing/binding/configuring reporting because zigpy already thinks they're initialized, as indicated in the db?

azure tinsel
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Ok that's clear. I just setup the whole network a few days ago. On a clean install of ha on a raspi 4

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If a want to restore the zigbee network on lets say a new install or another system which files do I need to backup and restore in order for it to work

molten linden
austere patio
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Same error as the other two

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And this was weeks ago

molten linden
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Yea like 3 or 4 weekends ago

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He wasn’t even actively using zha it was a remnant from the past.

azure tinsel
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Do I only need the zigbee.db to backup

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I read there are things stored on the stick. So if the stick fails there is no way to restore the network?

native quiver
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Hello Friends, i hava a question.. ik use Raspbee with Hass.io but Deconz still says no FW available

azure tinsel
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Just jank the stick out of the config and flash it manually first shutdown home assistant 😅

austere patio
native quiver
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when i used it in Raspbian it will work

azure tinsel
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So with the stick and de db file I can restore it on another system

austere patio
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I think just copying the /config/ folder and moving the stick should be enough, as that contains your zigbee DB, the HA DB, and the rest of your config.

azure tinsel
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Ok thanks. Hope I don't need to do so but just good to know

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@native quiver I never managed to flash the stick from within the software. There were 10 new versions but deconz /phoscon keep saying no newer version

native quiver
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i updated to the latest version

azure tinsel
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Eventually I flashed the stick manually

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And a few days later when I got a warning on deconz discord I janken the damn thing out of my config and setup zha. Just like that. I think I'll burn the damn conbee 2 stick just for fun

native quiver
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is use now deCONZ_RaspBeeII_0x26690700.bin.GCF

azure tinsel
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I think that's the latest

native quiver
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yes and its stil work in raspbiab

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raspbian

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do i need to change my config.txt in hass.io?

azure tinsel
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Hope your not asking me... I have no idea what I'm talking about 99% of the time

native quiver
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haha ok thanx

azure tinsel
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But everything is working for you? Everything reacts fast and all the time? If not according to the people from deconz it can't be something else then interference

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So when deconz or conbee2 isn't working, you need a longer usb cord thats what I learned on their discord 🤯

native quiver
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yes everything works great, only the raspbee

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i used raspbee nog the conbee 🙂

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and just i fucked op my config.txt so i restore hass.io and restoring a backup

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didnt boot any more

azure tinsel
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Can't help with that though..

native quiver
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no problem thank you!

azure tinsel
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Been reading some stuff about thread. It sounds promising I guess

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A zigbee alternative over wifi

mighty river
austere patio
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_TZ1800_ladpngdx

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More tuya stuff?

short valve
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this is a few months old but just in case you or someone else comes across it later - there are different thicknesses of CR2450s out there. SmartThings-branded hardware requires a Panasonic or similar 'thicker' CR2450, and I imagine that your button isn't making proper contact with the battery until you press. I doubt that it's due to the Varta battery reading slightly above 3V, 3.2V should be just fine.

mighty river
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But it was cheap simple to install (physically)

austere patio
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Cheap to install, expensive to deal with since Tuya is even worse than Xiaomi in some ways...

mighty river
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what ways?

austere patio
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Not following the spec, since their device should not need a quirk to work

mighty river
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ah gotcha

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thats a bummer

austere patio
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Someone just has to implement support for it

forest quarry
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Hello community - I would like to ask for some advice / guidance. I am building a new house and have up to 58 downlights. I want to make use of Phillips Hue ambient lighting so I can make use of cicada rythum wherby the light temp changes based on sunrise / sunset. Warm at night and cool in the day. I have this working now on 6 lights but I am in a rental. I believe I am going to need at least 2 x Hue Hubs. I plan to do all automation via Home Assistant which I am also using now. Can anyone who may already have a similar setup provide some of pitfalls that have come across and or suggestions.

trim magnet
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Hi, I need zigbee 24V digital input module. Outputs no need. What you could offer?

mellow geode
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The Zigbee stick and Home Assistant (and whatever Zigbee integration (ZHA/zigbee2mqtt) you're using completely replace the Hue Bridge. If you get a proper Zigbee stick, they can work with much more than 60 lights.

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Currently doesn't work with Hue Entertainment though but since I'm not using that, it wasn't a big deal for me

forest quarry
mellow geode
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Yeah. Also, don't use the deCONZ / Conbee stick

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Some people have reported issues with it

forest quarry
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Ahh lucky then 🙂

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I have flashed a Sonof Zigbee and using the ZHA integration but that is limited to 32 endpoints

mellow geode
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The Sonoff Zigbee bridge isn't stable when the WiFi drops out, but should work well otherwise.
Where have you read that it's limited to 32 endpoints?

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Maybe that was referring to directly connected children to the bridge.

forest quarry
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Will get the link - hang on

mellow geode
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Any Hue/Zigbee bulb should accept another 16 - 32 children

forest quarry
mellow geode
# mellow geode Any Hue/Zigbee bulb should accept another 16 - 32 children

All Hue bulbs are (Zigbee) routers which connect to each other and relay ("repeat) messages. The Hue Bridge (or in this case, the Zigbee stick) never connects to all bulbs at once. Maybe to like 20 bulbs (if that many are even in reach) and the dimmers (end-devices/battery devices connect to one router (bulb) or the bridge/Zigbee stick (coordinator) directly)

mellow geode
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If you add at least one bulb, this should accept another 8 to 32 end devices and more bulbs (not sure on the exact numbers)

forest quarry
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It was my understanding that the Bridge / Hub is what manages the addressing to all bulbs. Which is why the HUE hub has a hard fixed limit of 64 devices. If you get to this number though they say you can quite frequently get issues where some lights don't respond to commands.

mellow geode
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Yeah, the Hue Bridge (from 2015) is weak

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I think that even the Sonoff Bridge should work better

forest quarry
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Yeah here it is - The Coordinator type is the central coordination point of a given Zigbee network. It’s typically the device the creates the network in the first place, and stores all the security keys. This will usually be a hub, bridge, or smart home controller of some kind.
This is why I am looking to find a device I can use a single unit for all of the Zigbee units

mellow geode
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Yep, the "ZZH! Zigbee stick" can do that. The Elelabs adapter also works nice with Home Assistant's ZHA integration

forest quarry
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Oh going to look at that one

mellow geode
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Starting with "CC" is always Texas Instruments and they work well with both Z2M (zigbee2mqtt) and ZHA.
Currently, all EZSP (EFR..) chips from SiliconLabs are a bit more stable with ZHA.

forest quarry
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Yeah the EZSP is how the ZHA is working with the Sonoff Flashed Zigbee Wifi Bridge

mellow geode
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Yep. The Sonoff bridge is sometimes unstable though (although I've never used one but that's what most people report)

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Hard-wired is always better than WiFi

forest quarry
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Yeah agreed - Do you know what the limit is on the ZZH?

mellow geode
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There isn't really a hard limit

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I have 89 devices on my network right now and it works fine. (Most of them are bulbs)

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Only 25 bulbs/smart plugs are directly connected to the stick

forest quarry
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Oh that's the info I wanted to know 🙂 - You're awesome.

mellow geode
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Everything else is connected through a router (bulb/smart plug)

forest quarry
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Can you give me the link where you got yours from?

mellow geode
forest quarry
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In Australia.

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Do you have any HUE Dimmers linked with it?

mellow geode
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Yes. I've got some of the RWL021 (the older, glossy plastic ones) and the much nicer, newer ones

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Both work fine

forest quarry
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That's fantastic to know.

mellow geode
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They can be directly "bound" to a bulb (although there are currently issues with that) but I just use them with Home Assistant blueprints (or automations if I wanna control something else with them)

forest quarry
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Yeah that's what I am using now too.

mellow geode
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That does mean that Home Assistant needs to be up in order for the dimmers to work. For me, that hasn't been a problem though

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(When using Hue dimmers with the Hue bridge, the Hue bridge also needs to be online (even if they control a light))

forest quarry
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Yeah neither me - I have my Home Assistant running on a dedicated NUC

molten linden
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@mellow geode was that you?

mellow geode
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Haha, yes

molten linden
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merci

mellow geode
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Actually wanted to get all three coordinators

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But I guess I'll test one first lol

molten linden
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cool. hopefully shipping isn't too long.

mellow geode
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Yeah, never bought anything from the US I think

molten linden
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I swtiched over to a shipping program where I send stuff to a place in the US, they then retag it for international delivery, it cuts the cost by a decent bit. but adds at least a few days. luckily the place is In NY and I'm less than 2 hours away.

mellow geode
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Nice! I don't really need it in the near future but when it arrives, I (finally) have a spare (ZZH/) Ti coordinator and can use yours for my main network.

molten linden
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I'm sitting here flashing cc2652 Ethernet bridges 2 at a time, and wondering why one fails to work following each time...

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turns out I was flashing the router image 🤦‍♂️

mellow geode
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Haha nice

molten linden
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thanks again, appreciate it.

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I'll have some of the MGM12 modules which have the 256k ram soon, to bring back my "PRO" efr32 boards.

mellow geode
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Also thought about getting the current Silabs ones but I think migrating from TI to Silabs isn't really supported yet

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Might think again when you get the better "Pro" boards maybe (and when the open-coordinator-backup is "done" and I'm ready to take down my Zigbee network lol)

molten linden
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I think all the data is in the backup, just takes some manual translating but you know who knows the answer to that.

mellow geode
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Yeah, puddly already made the script which I used for the Silabs (Eleabs stick) -> TI migration

austere patio
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Yeah it's just renaming some JSON keys now with the new backup stuff, nothing crazy like before

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Gotta make a PR so bellows uses the same format

mellow geode
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Guess I'll just switch to a Conbee jk

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(which also probably can't be backuped/restored)

molten linden
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gotta get support for the Nordic sticks going 🤣

austere patio
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Someone new is maybe working on it

molten linden
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If you didn't scare them off. 😬

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na I saw that, and your response was great.

austere patio
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It's great when there are few comments and no docs

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One of these dsys...

molten linden
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yea. I have responsibility for docs now and it's a struggle to stay on top

austere patio
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It's a lot easier when you don't start

molten linden
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I just take cut and paste from answering questions/issues and then add it my docs

mellow geode
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Your docs are really nice though

molten linden
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thanks. need to add a video walk through of the cc2652 fw like I did for the efr32.

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and do one for the router eventually.

mellow geode
molten linden
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trying to get up the nerve to do another FB post, but it's a different world over there.🙃

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fixed

radiant venture
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After the 2021.4 update, my phillips dimmer switch doesn't show the buttons anymore and all my automations involving it are broken. It's connected with a zigbee usb and i've tried repairing it and restarting to no avail

mellow geode
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Are you running on Home Assistant OS?

radiant venture
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Yes, ill check that out

steel gorge
mellow geode
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I'll update the instructions to be more clear

radiant venture
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currentry trying the method julien recommended

steel gorge
mellow geode
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Yeah, one second

radiant venture
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yeah this is way over my head

mellow geode
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I updated the instructions, if you wanna try. (Starts at the bottom -- with the big headline)

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I think that using a blueprint (which makes use of zha_event instead of the device automation triggers) should also work as a workaround.

radiant venture
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I'm trying to copy the new quirk over but when I run the command it behaves like it worked, but doesn't actually copy the file. One sec I'll show you the command

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cp -a /config/rwlfirstgen.py /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zhaquirks/phillips

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The quirk is in my config directory of course

mellow geode
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If you do a ls /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zhaquirks/philips, the rwlfirstgen.py file doesn't show up?

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Oh, I think it's also phillips -> philips

radiant venture
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Yup just a spelling error, that fixed it. Sorry v tired

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Restarting right now, will let you know

steel gorge
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Done, mine works great. Thanks!

mellow geode
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Nice!

radiant venture
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I added the quirk and deleted the cache, but now all of my zigbee devices aren't working and the integration gives me error messages

mellow geode
mellow geode
# steel gorge Done, mine works great. Thanks!

Note: This "temporary fix" might get wiped when upgrading to a new Home Assistant version (until the fix makes it into one of the next releases). So either don't update for now (if any updates become available that do not mention a new "zha-device-handlers"/"zha quirks" release in the release notes) (although you're on Home Assistant Core anyways, so it might be different for you) or be ready to copy the file again.

radiant venture
mellow geode
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Make sure that if you have a deps or .deps folder in your Home Assistant /config directory that it's empty (or doesn't exist at all).

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And this issue didn't occur before only copying the single file?

radiant venture
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The folder exists but it's empty. And yes this issue didn't happen until I installed the quirk

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Before I went to Discord, I put in pip install zha-quirks==0.0.38

mellow geode
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Ah

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Yeah

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Don't

radiant venture
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and I think that might be why zigbee is broken

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yeahhh

mellow geode
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Was already wondering lol

radiant venture
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Any idea how to uninstall it? lol

mellow geode
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Try to do pip install zha-quirks==0.0.55 (in the homeassistant container where you also issued the other pip command) and then copy the file again

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Or rebuild the container (ha core rebuild when on the HassOS machine: core rebuild (not in the docker container where you copied the file or did the pip install thing) and then copy the file again in the homeassistant docker container

radiant venture
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Ok I'm rebuilding. I will try the quirk in the AM, thank you for your help!

mellow geode
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Hopefully it works then

bleak sky
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Trying to sort out my tradfri remote and tradfri bulb connected direct to HA. I can change color temp via HA interface, but I can't create an automation for the remote to change color temp...

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Using zha

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When i look at the device options in the automation I only have options to dim and brighten, on, off, and flash... should there be color temp adjustment options?

mellow geode
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You'll need to use a service call: light.turn_on in the automations editor.

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There, you should be able to change the color temperature

bleak sky
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Ok, will try.

radiant venture
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@mellow geode I got impatient and tried again without installing that thing like an idiot, and it works now!

mellow geode
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Hopefully the fix makes it into Home Assistant soon. For now, just don't update I guess (if there are any new Home Assistant versions which are not mentioning an update of zha-quirks/zha-device-handlers) (or you might need to copy the file over again)

bleak sky
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So I have an effect value, but there's nothing for me to select, and using a percentage offset does nothing.

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I have lots of options for brightness but not color temp

mellow geode
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Not sure what you mean by having an "effect value" but atm, only a fixed color temperature can be set using the light.turn_on service call. I'd think you need to check on what color temperature your light is using a template and then add/decrease accordingly.

mellow geode
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When I go into the Home Assistant automations editor (under Actions), I can do the following:

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(It's in German but I've basically selected "Action type": "Service call" and as a service: "Light: Turn on")
Below that, I can select the entity I want to change and even further down, the color temperature can be set.

fringe zephyr
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I just bought a house and I want to replace all the lights in the house with color temp changing bulbs(rgb is a bonus, but I don't really care) I saw philips hue and sengled are both zigbee does anyone have any advice?

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Looking at probably 40-60 bulbs

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I also want to make sure there are no comparability issues down the road,

mellow geode
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In my experience, the new Hue lights (the ones with Bluetooth feature a newer chipset) are ok (although maybe a bit expensive).
Currently, IKEA lights might crash after some time (and need a power cycle). IKEA devs have been silent about this but they could issue firmware upgrades to fix this (at some point).
I would also recommend going with Home Assistant's ZHA integration or zigbee2mqtt (Z2M) (rather than a Hue Bridge) -> see the pinned messages of this channel

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Sengleds are end devices which is stupid if you have many lights. (Meaning they don't act as router/repeaters but similar to a battery powered device in regards to how they are connected to other Zigbee devices)

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Also, all your Zigbee lights always need mains power. You should not cut their power by a standard switch.

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This means that you'll need to put a battery powered switch or a normal switch connected to a Shelly for example that then send the press signal to Home Assistant to turn on/off the light.

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This will also mean that if Home Assistant is down -> you can't control your lights. (Some battery powered switches can be directly bound to Zigbee bulbs but I can't think of any good looking ones right now)

fringe zephyr
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Oh god, I didn't know that... That sounds like alot of work

bleak sky
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Pitterplatter That's a lot. 40-60 bulbs at even $20 per is prohibitively expensive for most. Smart switches may be better

mellow geode
fringe zephyr
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Yeah, that is alot ... Maybe Ill just do the most used room in the house cutting it down to 20ish

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Does home assistant go down often?

mellow geode
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Well, if you never update it, no

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Updating is usual only a couple of minutes of downtime but it's still a few minutes where lights don't work

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Luckily no Home Assistant update broke the control of my lights (yet)

fringe zephyr
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I'd really really like to be able to adjust color temperature if possible... But if it gonna cost me 30$ a bulb then definitely not doing that

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What other options should I consider with zigbee bulbs?

bleak sky
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It really depends on the brand. Ikea is cheap, but as I'm finding its kinda buggy

fringe zephyr
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Yeah, by the sounds of it I'd like to avoid them

bleak sky
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Wifi is cheaper, but you better have a good or separate network

fringe zephyr
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Yeah, that could be an issue

ivory hound
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what do you do if this happens?
bulb is LEDVANCE AC25697 - zigbee2mqtt OTA available, when try to update:

Update failed (File checksum validation failed)
edgy minnow
# fringe zephyr Looking at probably 40-60 bulbs

I have had amazing success with gledopto. They are brighter cheaper and fully support RGB-CCT. Have used well over 100 bulbs from them across 3 different installations. The 12 watt E27/26 has huge output for white 900-1100 lumens. It is physically bigger bulb but works beautifully in pendants. Also used the gu10s. Gu10s make sure to get the narrow beam versions and do lux calc. They are not the brightest but still way better than Ikea. Build quality is better than ikea.

ivory hound
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@edgy minnow any link?

edgy minnow
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i bought direct from manufacturer. http://www.gledopto.com/ VERY IMPORTANT make sure you order from the PRO line. These products are all zigbee 3.0 certified. The only downside with these bulbs is lack of firmware updates. But then they seem to build exactly to zigbee standard and dont try to put proprietary crap in their firmware like hue/ikea etc.

ivory hound
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thats good

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except that site goes nowhere

edgy minnow
ivory hound
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i loaded now

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wierd

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u use those bulbs with what integration?

edgy minnow
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Use them with ZHA, prior to ZHA tested them on hue hub and ikea hub. I replaced all my ikea bulbs with them and gifted ikea bulbs to a buddy. I hate that you cannot control white colour temperature in HA on ikea bulbs. Ikea bulbs are not true RGB-CCT bulbs. They only support RGBW. Word of warning if you put gledopto bulbs in mix with ikea you will really hate ikea very quickly if you want to do simple things like set white colour temperature for different times of day.

mellow geode
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You can actually get firmware updates for the Pro series from GLEDOPTO. You might need to change zigpy code in order to apply them, as multiple different images have the same image_id and manufacture_code and device might "request" something totally different. There are also multiple hardware images with completely different version formatting. They also use EmberZNet 6.7.7 and thus aren’t affected by the crashing bug (but by the message corruption leading to Nwk changes bug)

mellow geode
desert cloak
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It (Ikea gu10 CWS) has the annoying high pitching noise problem still?

edgy minnow
jolly narwhal
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@desert cloak none of my 16 or so have ever had that

azure tinsel
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Puddly If I may ask you one more question.. what if my zigbee stick fails. Is there a way to get the old network data in the new stick without having to set everything up again? With using zha that is

jolly narwhal
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You just replace the stick

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For z2m it would have to be the same chipset and firmware preferably

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Guessing somewhat same rules on zha

sour shadow
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You can also back up the stick

sour shadow
heady forum
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Tried that one when upgrading the firmware, worked without a problem. It gave errors, but still worked.. 🙂

jolly narwhal
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Z2M does that automatically regularly doesn't it ? @sour shadow

sour shadow
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Well, sort of, but not fully

jolly narwhal
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Yeah, somewhat 🤣

sour shadow
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That works for Z2M if you want to move from a CC253x to a newer stick

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Or even the other way around ablobgrimace

fickle elbow
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hmm I'm getting a 502 bad gateway intermittently. Anyone knows what the reason is?

jolly narwhal
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on what ?

fickle elbow
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Sorry, haha sitting in a meeting so forgot to mention what I'm talking about 😄

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Zigbee2mqtt

jolly narwhal
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Never seen that Shrug can be a lot of reasons

fickle elbow
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ok, another thing then. When I actually do get access to zigbee2mqtt I press "allow all" and it doesn't work I just get a error response saying it expected 0x00.

jolly narwhal
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never seen that either, I do "allow all" atleast once a week at this point

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how are you running zigbee2mqtt ?

fickle elbow
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Running it through supervisor on hassio

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or HA OS rather

jolly narwhal
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Then you have trafik or whatever HAOS uses in between, no idea what that does

fickle elbow
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I think it broke when I updated yesterday actually.

azure tinsel
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I successfully bind a hue dimmer switch to a light group yesterday. So even when ha is down these lights will still go on and off

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Can't seem to get the Aqara switches to work like that

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Maybe I'm missing something though

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And by the way it almost feels like the lights are going on before I press the button so lightning fast it is. This shows how much delay the network and ha has over a direct connection

native quiver
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Hello all
Does somebody know haw to change the config.txt file for the zigbee raspbee ?

fickle elbow
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@native quiver Yes, go to file editor (install if you haven't), click on zigbee2mqtt if that's what you are using, inside there you should have the .yaml file

desert cloak
jolly narwhal
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I've tried on my bulbs but can't provoke it

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12 of mine are outdoor

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So I wouldn't care either way

fresh citrus
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Can i move the Zigbee-database etc to a new HA installation without having to repair everything? Running Conbee and ZHA.

sterile sleet
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yes

fresh citrus
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Great! So what else do i have to do besides just move the zigbee.db file?

novel crown
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The easiest way is to create a full snapshot and just load that snapshot in the new installation

jolly narwhal
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Snapshots no

fresh citrus
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I run HA core on the other server (docker).

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Doesn't support snapshots right?

jolly narwhal
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We do not

novel crown
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What's wrong with the snapshot system?

fresh citrus
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I cant use it on the docker?

jolly narwhal
novel crown
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Didn't know. Personally running the OS on a Pi. What's wrong with the OS? Read people meme it

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then you should just backup the zigbee DB

jolly narwhal
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I prefer my system not a locked down appliance that auto updates and tells me what versions of software I can run or not EYEBROWS

novel crown
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I think its fairly neat for a quick stress free installation on a Pi. In which well does it force you to run a certain version of a software. Are you talking about the software on a system level like the kernel?

balmy ginkgo
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Bought 2 Aqara lamps. appears they don't work without a HUB :/ snif

jolly narwhal
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Developers of add-ons dictate the versions of software

novel crown
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Seems like a good point. On what hardware are you running your system on?

azure tinsel
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Im getting this error/warning in the log

2021-04-09 08:35:59 WARNING (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] Found 00:17:88:01:06:26:9f:e8 device for 0x2767 NWK conflict: Philips LTC001```
is this something to worry about?
jolly narwhal
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@novel crown currently flipping back and forth between a mini itx (4c/12g/SSD) and a r510 (24c/128g/SSD) using docker, some external services on each of them plus zigbee2mqtt running on a raspberry pi 🤢

tropic depot
azure tinsel
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No it's working and no errors anymore

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Thanks for the reply @tropic depot 👍

austere patio
sour shadow
fickle elbow
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@austere patio you said something about being able to flash the stick without a programmer if it has a bootloader? Can't find a method for this

austere patio
ripe hinge
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I'm really having a rough time with Zigbee (via ZHA) since the updates this week. I re-added the devices, but they drop off a lot. A temperature sensor is not updating frequently at all, and the coordinator (a HUSBZB-1) shows "offline" in the ZHA visualization.
My Z-Wave stuff (on the same stick) is working fine. And it's not a range issue. The stick has a clear shot at the first device, and everything else is within range of that device or the stick itself.
I've been reloading/restarting/rebooting with no luck. I'm about to remove the ZHA integration and start over again. Any suggestions?

dusk thistle
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Just an update. Got a 6ft usb 2.0 extension cable and i am still having the CRC error in frame come in about every minute or so.

fickle elbow
austere patio
limber geode
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@molten linden I got your awesome router about 3 weeks ago and it works great. I had to revert back to an older snapshot in HA (wo router) and now I am trying to discover the device and been unable to for 3 hours. Suggestions ? Thank You

molten linden
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pop the top off and hit the BSL button a single time to reset it and put it into pairing mode. have ZHA or Z2M permitting joins when you do it.

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🤞

fickle elbow
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@austere patio Zigbee Home Automation with zigbee2mqtt

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or rather, tried both is what I'm trying to say

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I think I need to revert. Everything got worse after the update yesterday.

limber geode
fickle elbow
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I think HA OS is the piece of software that has created the most frustration for me ever

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Not even following guides make sense. The guide tell me to do stuff on things that do not exist with zero explanation on why.

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I can't even SSH and take control. Heck I can't even configure wifi without flashing a USB.

jolly narwhal
fickle elbow
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I had container but apparently I can't use add-ons. HA is super confusing.

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Damn zigbee usb works now and I have no idea why. This thing ruined my Friday.

dusk thistle
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Alright at this point I'm 2 USB extensions in with the zigbee stick 12ft away from the 3.0 port and i am still getting the CRC error in frame messages.

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This HAS to be a hardware issue with the stick? I even tried a new HA instances in proxmox with 0 other integrations.

fickle elbow
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@dusk thistle I know the pain....

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checked so you have the correct baud rate?

dusk thistle
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I'm a little green on all this stuff. How would I do that? I set up ZHA through the GUI not the config

sterile sleet
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baud rates? with usb? what sticks are you using?

dusk thistle
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HUSBZB-1

sterile sleet
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no baud rates there

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crc is a bad usb connection

dusk thistle
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I have 4 USB 3.0 ports only. I've tried 2 with a 12ft extension lol. I'll try the other two. I think it might just be a bad stick. The weird thing is that it Z wave works perfectly and zigbee works okay and just randomly crashes when too many event triggers happen

sterile sleet
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use a usb2 hub

dusk thistle
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The extensions I'm using are usb2

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Same deal with the other 2 ports.

tropic depot
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We have many reports of issues with promox

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Cut that out to validate if it is promox or hardware

dusk thistle
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Will try that next. Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll install HA OS on a clean drive.

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Quick question, do i need to remove the zigbee integration in my current HA before I test it in the new install or should it work okay if I just turn it off and move it over?

tropic depot
novel crown
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Anyone knows how I can get the IEEE id of a device in a blueprint using ZHA?

dusk thistle
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FINALLY got HA up and running in virtual box and still the same issue. I'd say this is a hardware problem.

austere patio
dusk thistle
austere patio
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Yeah, you'll need Python 2.7 to run the script. May be easier to use the Docker image.

jolly narwhal
lime locust
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got a cc2531 stick has a max of 25 devices ? got 3 bulbs now and does this extend the number of devices.
and some wireless switches, they have binding setting , is this to operate something I bind independently from HA ?

jolly narwhal
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Sure, but it still one of the worst possible coordinator you can have

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You are guaranteed to have lockups

lime locust
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have it for 4 months now no troubles yet 🙂

jolly narwhal
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With three bulbs and a few sensors? Probably not yet

lime locust
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hmm better alternative would be ?.. cc9000 ?

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😛

jolly narwhal
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Cc2652, cc1352p2 etc

lime locust
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2652 more transmitting power

fickle elbow
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@jolly narwhal I will switch eventually. I'm just so tired of switching back and fourth all the time. Switched to HA OS out of frustration the other day but now I have a raspberry that is only usable for HA which sucks.

jolly narwhal
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Yes, which is one of the reasons why I ran HAOS for roughly 3 days

fickle elbow
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The annoying this is that out of spite I just wiped my RPI with all my other homebridge settings

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Btw which Zigbee gateway/USB is the most stable? Like virtually zero problems. No matter the price.

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This is horrible, getting "502 bad gateway" from several add-ons. And I'm running HA OS to get rid of problems. Instead I've got new problems I've never seen before.

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@jolly narwhal That's it! I'm taking your advice and changing back to container. This is horribly angering. Turning into a bitter man.

obsidian sandalBOT
fickle elbow
restive crest
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Hi guys, I am getting spammed with "[zigpy_deconz.api] No response to 'Command.aps_data_indication' command with seq id '0x77'" after adding all my hue bulbs directly to zha with a Conbee II. Can anyone point me in a direction on how to better identify the issue. I have enabled debug logging, but don't want to spam if its not valuable.

novel crown
restive crest
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That is what I was assuming. I am just unsure how to identify the device that is dropping packets.

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Can I identfy a device somehow from:

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2021-04-10 11:24:46 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] Request id: 0x77 'aps_data_confirm' for <DeconzAddressEndpoint address_mode=ADDRESS_MODE.NWK address=0x4120 endpoint=11>, status: 0x00
2021-04-10 11:24:46 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] Device state changed response: [<DeviceState.128|APSDE_DATA_REQUEST_SLOTS_AVAILABLE|APSDE_DATA_INDICATION|2: 170>, 0]

novel crown
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what integration are you using?

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I assume deconz?

restive crest
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Yeah. It seems to match the NWK on the Device / visualization. Not optimal with 75 devices, but doable.

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Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be the same device for the various warnings

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I am using ZHA, with the ConBee

novel crown
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You can see the link quality of the devices in the network virtualization map in the ZHA integration. That should give you a good indication which device could have a poor link quality

restive crest
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The two devices I have identified are literally the two devices closest to the ConBee.

novel crown
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Are they the closed to your WLAN-Router aswell?

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closest. English suddenly gone 😄

restive crest
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I actually just moved it away before migrating the bulbs.

novel crown
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Hmm, I do get the same warning from time to time but for me the devices still work. Same for you?

restive crest
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But could be both an issue with wireless noise. The ConBee is in a closet with all sorts of equipment.

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Ill try a usb extender for the Conbee to get it away from the other stuff and see what happens. Thank you so much for the help so far!

novel crown
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USB-Extender should help quite much.

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and obviously if you can, set up the zigbee and wireless channels to not interfere

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and I have quite a good results with the ikea tradfari extender.

restive crest
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Ironically it seems to be the devices right next to the ConBee having issues.

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How do I see my current ZigBee channel if I didnt change it?

novel crown
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it should use the default ones descriped in the zha documentation

restive crest
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Thanks. Time to find some cables. 😄 Again, thanks for the help.

novel crown
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You're welcome! We are all sitting in the same boat of zigbee chaos 😄

novel crown
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Can I somehow expose a cluster attribute as an entity in zha?

hollow condor
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Could someone try to make me understand 'groups' and 'clusters' or point me to an easy to follow disclaimer.
For example, I have two blinds (IKEA Trådfri), I want to be able to control them as one, without calling them separate from HA. I also would like the button (included remote) to work directly without triggering an automation in HA (as I have now, since I have a habbit of breaking things). ZHA with ConBeeII btw.

cold gorge
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I have a 'funny' issue, the battery status of my custom zigbee sensor is not shown in HA (ZHA)

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but through manage clusters i can query the size, voltage and percentage etc

dense basin
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#zigbee-archived #330944238910963714
@quasi badger

I am using sonoff wifi zigbee bridge flashed with #Tasmota with ZHA in Homeassistant, i am having issue in the sonoff wireless switch is showing battery identity only

I am not sure if there is a way to make it work and use the actions

I need some help here

fickle elbow
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@jolly narwhal Your zigbee2mqtt does not show in the HA container UI after install right? You do everything from the CLI?

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Unless you activate it of course

jolly narwhal
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Well yes

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My zigbee2mqtt doesn't even run on the same host as HA @fickle elbow

stone halo
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i got some odd zigbee phenomenon lol, I cant find my r2652RB using
ls -l /dev/serial/by-id but the laptop does see it show up in dmesg ```[ 1182.072863] usb 2-3: new full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[ 1182.223076] usb 2-3: New USB device found, idVendor=10c4, idProduct=ea60, bcdDevice= 1.00
[ 1182.223084] usb 2-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 1182.223089] usb 2-3: Product: slae.sh cc2652rb stick - slaesh's iot stuff
[ 1182.223092] usb 2-3: Manufacturer: Silicon Labs
[ 1182.223096] usb 2-3: SerialNumber: [ 1182.072863] usb 2-3: new full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[ 1182.223076] usb 2-3: New USB device found, idVendor=10c4, idProduct=ea60, bcdDevice= 1.00
[ 1182.223084] usb 2-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 1182.223089] usb 2-3: Product: slae.sh cc2652rb stick - slaesh's iot stuff

[ 1182.223092] usb 2-3: Manufacturer: Silicon Labs
[ 1182.223096] usb 2-3: SerialNumber: ```

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when usingtest -w /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_slae.sh_cc2652rb_stick_-_slaesh_s_iot_stuff_00_12_4B_00_21_xx_xx_xx-if00-port0 && echo success || echo failure results in failure

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thanks for the tips about docker and sshfs btw, those worked out nicely now

dusk thistle
grim gate
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I recently moved from a HUSBZB-1 to a Conbee2. I deleted the old ZHA integration and started with Deocnz, eventually deleted that and went back to ZHA. After re-pairing devices all of them show up and I can use them, but there are "ghost" devices under them and they all say "Disabled by config entry". Is this normal??

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And under my ZHA config i still see Deconz and the old coordinator... Seems like I didn't go about changing from one controller to another the correct way but don't know what the correct way is...

jolly narwhal
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@stone halo ls -lla /dev/serial/by-id/

stone halo
mighty river
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I have just moved from rpi3 to rpi4. Using a snapshot to bootstrap the setup. I have access to the buildroot system and have also made the changes to the boot config. Anyone know how to install the wiringpi and the pizigate test on the buildroot system?

jolly narwhal
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Then ls -lla /dev/ | grep ttyA @stone halo

stone halo
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should that reply, no reply in there

golden vessel
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how long does a device stay in Long Poll Interval mode?

jolly narwhal
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Then you have no serial devices wtfFace

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I'm guessing the device is missing firmware

stone halo
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guess firmware broke

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ill reflash

stone halo
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also flashed ```./cc2538-bsl.py -p COM3 -evw "D:\downloads\cc2538-bsl-master\CC2652RB_coordinator_20210120.hex"

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Nothing changed

stone halo
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[ 4902.946247] usb 2-3: New USB device found, idVendor=10c4, idProduct=ea60, bcdDevice= 1.00
[ 4902.946257] usb 2-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 4902.946263] usb 2-3: Product: slae.sh cc2652rb stick - slaesh's iot stuff
[ 4902.946268] usb 2-3: Manufacturer: Silicon Labs
[ 4902.946280] usb 2-3: SerialNumber: 00_12_4B_00_21_4F_43_A9
[ 4902.948022] cp210x 2-3:1.0: cp210x converter detected
[ 4902.949950] usb 2-3: cp210x converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[ 4904.263227] usb 2-3: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by cp210x while 'brltty' sets config #1
[ 4904.264116] cp210x ttyUSB0: cp210x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
[ 4904.264204] cp210x 2-3:1.0: device disconnected
[ 4936.814809] br-58e29fa26ff6: port 2(veth654a569) entered blocking state
[ 4936.814818] br-58e29fa26ff6: port 2(veth654a569) entered disabled state
jolly narwhal
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It is there now atleast

stone halo
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it has been..

jolly narwhal
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ls -lla /dev/ttyUSB0

stone halo
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still doesnt exist

jolly narwhal
stone halo
# 
*
ls: kan geen toegang krijgen tot '/dev/ttyUSB*': Bestand of map bestaat niet
root@laptopserver:/home/diede# ```
novel crown
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lmao, my danfoss ally can read my mind if I want to open the windows. It has a status for it: "0x02: Hold ,Windows are maybe about to open"

jolly narwhal
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My dutch is not that good

novel crown
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Can't access /dev/ttyUSB": File or Folder does not exist

novel crown
jolly narwhal
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According to the dmesg above

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It shouldn't

stone halo
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my bad

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tty till tty63

jolly narwhal
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Those are not interesting

stone halo
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it worked on a previous debian attempt as ttyusb0

trim ore
#

Having all kinds of issues with Zigbee2MQTT - set it all up, paired a socket, paired a switch - all looking good... now cant pair anything

stone halo
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what do the logs say^?

trim ore
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It all works and I can control devices but I enable pairing and just nothing happens when I reset the device

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Logs dont say anything

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no errors, just that its now allowing pairing...

stone halo
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checked mosquitto mqtt if its working?

trim ore
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This is in zigbee2mqtt so it shouldnt have gotten to mqtt yet right?

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[32mZigbee2MQTT:info  2021-04-10 09:51:35: Zigbee: allowing new devices to join.
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2021-04-10 09:51:35: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/response/permit_join', payload '{"data":{"time":254,"value":true},"status":"ok","transaction":"3s71z-2"}'
jolly narwhal
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With what coordinator @trim ore ?

trim ore
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^ this is all I get from the logs, so it seems to be publishing fine ?

trim ore
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Can still control the devices etc though

jolly narwhal
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Yeah, that is going to be terrible over time

trim ore
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Its not like its crashed as its still responding to commands etc

novel crown
#

how would one ota update a zigbee device. I have the .ota file of my danfoss here, but I was wondering how does it know which file to take? I assume the filename follows a specific format to identify that file, judging based on that cryptic file name. Do I just issue the cluster command for that device and update?

stone halo
novel crown
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using the peasant zha 😄

trim ore
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Moved socket closer to dongle and now it all works

silver stump
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hey guys,
I need some help with pairing my ikea tradfi socket with zha and zzh usb stick.

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I push the pinhole 4 times, the white led start to fade in and out.

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but doesn't show up at the searching screen

stone halo
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does the dongle work?

silver stump
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yes, currently using with other ikea devices.

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well something is happeing now.

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I manage to pair them.
I moved them closer to eachother.
These zigbee pairing has some try and fail...

stone halo
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4.151414] usb 1-3: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by cp210x while 'brltty' sets config #1

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removing brltty fixed it

austere patio
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Comment out ikea_provider and ledvance_provider and uncomment otau_directory. Drop your file into the folder referenced by that last option and restart HA.

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Then either physically reboot your device and wait a few minutes or issue the cluster command to the endpoint of the device that has an OTA cluster

austere patio
# silver stump I push the pinhole 4 times, the white led start to fade in and out.

You usually don't need to move things closer (otherwise they'll not work when you move them back). I find with the IKEA outlets you can just unplug it, wait for a few seconds, plug it back in. Permit joins via ZHA and then poke the reset button for like 4-5 seconds. When you stop poking it the relay should click and it will start trying to join a network within like 10-15 seconds.

fickle elbow
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I have Aqara smart plugs. Yesterday they showed me the energy consumption and voltage. Today I can only see power in the mqtt messages. Difference is, today I introduced an Ikea wall plug to improve my network signal. Anyone know what's going on with the system?

stone halo
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HMMM for some reason z2m only likes reading my advanced: tyyUSB0, adn not my serial by id address

jolly narwhal
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Well...

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How did you map it?

stone halo
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wdym?

jolly narwhal
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You are running zigbee2mqtt in a container?

stone halo
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yeah

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i mapped it in configuration.yaml of the container

jolly narwhal
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Then

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Show us how

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In your docker compose

silver stump
silent lintel
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I have 2 Aqara Buttons right next to each other, that are within 12 inches of a router. I'm having an issue where one Aqara button has an LQI of zero. When I brought both of the buttons to my test bench, and real close to my coordinator, the LQI jumped up.
Z2M, the coordinator is a zzh, and I have 4 CC2531 routers

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Here's something from the Map. The two buttons pasha_button and pete_button are both 10 inches from basement_router.
But according to this map, only pasha_button is talking to the basement_router

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it looks like pete_button is trying to phone home to the coordinator!

austere patio
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LQI is last-hop, so you're seeing the LQI between the basement router and the coordinator

silent lintel
silent lintel
austere patio
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The Aqara button probably won't find a new parent until you re-join it to the network specifically through that router

silent lintel
austere patio
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Oh no, that is how you run into Aqara issues. You usually want to join new devices to the network where they will end up being

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Any router on the network can act as a parent for end-devices, not just the coordinator

silent lintel
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Thanks so much for the tip puddly, and for the migration a couple weeks back - I hope some more folks have gotten away from their CC2531's and onto zzh's!

austere patio
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Z2M will eventually support this on its own so hopefully it'll be plug and play in the near future

simple sentinel
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Zigbee Anecdote: Currently rocking 2x IKEA Fyrtur blinds on Z2M.
Life is good

jolly narwhal
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Always pair in final location

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If a totally new setup, pair in outwards ripples

silent lintel
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Okay last question, what if it's a router you're pairing?

austere patio
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Same thing

silent lintel
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Understood. I have no idea why I came to believe they had to be paired right next to the coordinator. Lesson learned

jolly narwhal
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They have to with a cc2531 since they have 2cm range

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🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

stone halo
jolly narwhal
stone halo
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messed something else up

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that is fixed now ```devices:

  • /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_slae.sh_cc2652rb_stick_-_slaesh_s_iot_stuff_00_12_4B_00_21_4F_43_A9-if00-port0```
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this is my compose

jolly narwhal
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But that doesn't map anywhere

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It's only one side of it

stone halo
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oh

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how would i fix that?

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by putting it down twice with a semicolon in between?

jolly narwhal
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      devices:
          - '/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Texas_Instruments_XDS110__03.00.00.13__Embed_with_CMSIS-DAP_L430018T-if00:/dev/ttyACM0'
sour shadow
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Nah, it's fine

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If you don't specify the destination then it just maps it as is

jolly narwhal
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Orly

sour shadow
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Yup

jolly narwhal
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I've never seen that

sour shadow
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It's sneaky, and handy

stone halo
jolly narwhal
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Go into your container

sour shadow
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It will, if you map it correctly

jolly narwhal
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See what the container see

stone halo
# 
  port:
    /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_slae.sh_cc2652rb_stick_-_slaesh_s_iot_stuff_00_12_4B_00_21_4F_43_A9-if00-port0
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the config

jolly narwhal
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docker exec -it <name> /bin/bash

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ls /dev

stone halo
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huh Error response from daemon: Container 3a35dbfb9057fdf102ee7e7073809b396a1fbe141cb661f582bc3aa08292cd9f is restarting, wait until the container is running

jolly narwhal
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So it doesn't even start

stone halo
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bcuz of the dongle

jolly narwhal
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docker logs <name>

sour shadow
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And check Z2M's own logs

jolly narwhal
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And share your entire compose file

stone halo
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sour shadow
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You've been here long enough to know better

stone halo
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oops

stone halo
obsidian sandalBOT
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jolly narwhal
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Probably enclose your path in ' '

sour shadow
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And now you get to re-read the rules to see what else you forgot

stone halo
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it keeps defaulding on here

sour shadow
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And you can click

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It's not that hard 😛

stone halo
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you are right...

sour shadow
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Did you simply restart or did you up Z2M after you changed the container config?

stone halo
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its was my first start

stone halo
stone halo
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Dont get me wrong it seems to work fine when using ttyusb0, but i was recommended not to do so

jolly narwhal
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The path to the device

stone halo
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ooh

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i misread that

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nah that doesnt work

jolly narwhal
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Did you recreate the container?

stone halo
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yeah

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i always up

jolly narwhal
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My entire compose for z2m

stone halo
stone halo
jolly narwhal
stone halo
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oddd, thanks though!

dim shard
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Does anyone know of a way to set up a new coordinator for ZHA? I just can't seem to find how to get ZHA to look at a new coordinator path.
As I'll be moving to a Proxmox environment soon, I want to move from my current RaspBee shield to a ConBee stick before I actually move over.

austere patio
dim shard
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Awesome. I'll have a go at that one. Cheers mate!

austere patio
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Your network would also probably not survive

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Unless there's a way to copy coordinator data with the *bee adapters

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I think there may be with deCONZ?

dim shard
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If only I had been smart enough to use that from the start.

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So, I'll probably be ending up repairing all devices, is what I take from it?

austere patio
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It looks like you may be able to use the Phoscon App to move the network data to the new stick

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But deCONZ works differently and stores a lot more about the network in its internal database so I'm not too sure, I would ask either in their discord or see if someone else has done this

dim shard
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Worst case scenario I'm spending next weekend, probably, re-pairing all devices. ZHA does store a lot in a DB, but I'm not sure if that's the full network data or just some information on the devices.

austere patio
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It's only device info

dim shard
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Oh well, that should keep me busy.

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The RPi served me well, until now. I'm starting to see that states aren't being properly updated. So I'm moving to something a bit quicker. The ZHA part is my only concern, as that's what makes up for most of my home right now 😂

austere patio
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It looks like you should be able to perform a network-level backup within deCONZ and restore it. Maybe try setting up deCONZ with the raspbee, do a backup, and restore it to the conbee before moving it over? Worst case scenario is having to re-join everything.

mighty river
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Hello, with the addon, I don't think it is possible. I success use deconz with alexa using portainer with the official deconz docker and put it on host network.

novel crown
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nvm it did actually work like that

fickle elbow
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Why are most values N/A all of a sudden on my Aqara smart plugs? Only power and lqi is showing. How can I troubleshoot this?

gentle flint
ripe hinge
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hey, I'm still having a lot of trouble keeping Zigbee devices responsive on my setup. running ZHA with the HUSBZB-1 stick. at least once a day everything becomes unavailable. is there anything I should be looking for in the logs? I'm a fairly new user, and it hasn't always been this unreliable, only in the last week or so. I'd appreciate any tips.

merry gust
austere patio
ripe hinge
ripe hinge
# merry gust Did you also check dmesg? And did you update the firmware on the stick?

Hmm... I'm not really familiar yet with any command line stuff, so I haven't checked dmesg. I'm looking now at how to update the firmware, which also seems pretty command line heavy, so I'll have to find some really good instructions that a novice like me would understand. My Z-wave stuff is (mostly) working now - could updating the firmware jeopardize that?

rotund wave
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No real reason to pop in here other than to say thanks @molten linden for making the Coordinator I am using and its amaaaazing. Well worth the monies. I have had zero downtime in the last 2 weeks. The. Best. Thanks again.

tribal rose
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Can zigbee bulbs be configured such that when powered on they don't automatically turn on?

untold talon
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Yesterday I upgraded from 2021.3.4 to 2021.4.3 I am getting the following error. I am getting Component error: zha - cannot import name 'setup' from 'zhaquirks' (/config/deps/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zhaquirks/init.py)

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I did some googling and did not find a straightforward answer

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Any ideas? 🙂

sour shadow
tribal rose
sour shadow
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Have a look at the pinned messages for supported hardware

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Maybe it's listed there

bleak sky
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It's more of a hardware/manufacturer option

tribal rose
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Okay so it's not "soft" configurable through HA then?

bleak sky
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If the hardware exposes the option you may be able to set it.

tribal rose
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I think that's my question, assuming it's exposed, I'd set it where in HA?

bleak sky
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Lemme check my hue bulb...

tribal rose
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tyvm

bleak sky
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So, I couldn't find the option, but I suspect it may be under clusters...

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Try Devices -> bulb, then manage clusters.

tribal rose
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Okay thank you

bleak sky
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Those will be device specific. For hue, I set it in the hue app via BT, before integraring

tribal rose
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I'll need to read about clusters, never heard of them before.

sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT exposes it in the device config, and it's in the mentioned in their docs if the device supports it

tribal rose
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O.o

bleak sky
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I'm new to clusters as well. It's how ZHA handles the config and values in the interface. It let me send a firmware update command

tribal rose
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I've heard of mqtt2zwavejs but not mqtt2zigbee

bleak sky
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Zigbee2mqtt is older AFAIK. It can be more configurable, but more finnicky

austere patio
untold talon
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I have not

tribal rose
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okay gotcha

bleak sky
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There was a fix involving quirks per the release notes

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So it may be related to that

austere patio
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It's related but not in the usual way. Somehow the Python dependencies are screwed up, since zhaquirks.setup exists and HA pulls in the correct version.

untold talon
austere patio
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I saw the first one 😆

untold talon
austere patio
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Hmm. I don't use the OS so I'm not sure how the it managed to upgrade without pulling in the correct package version.

ripe hinge
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Well... I'm seeing now that the devices that are giving me trouble aren't fully supported. (OSRAM Lightify BR30 bulbs). So I might just have to turn on my old SmartThings hub and move those back. Does that sound right?

austere patio
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Where do you see that they're unsupported?

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Most of the common non-Tuya products should work

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Actually, where is /config/deps coming from? All of the ZHA dependencies are in /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/ for the OS I have installed in VirtualBox

ripe hinge
austere patio
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The list isn't exhaustive and just lists what some people have reported working for them. Z2M has a whitelist, which is where most of these devices come from. ZHA assumes everything works and fixes ones that don't, so devices that it doesn't "know" about can still be added and work if they're relatively spec-complaint.

ripe hinge
austere patio
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But your current issue is a bit lower-level, something is broken with your Python environment.

untold talon
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Two different people

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Rich and Rick 🙂

austere patio
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😆

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🤦‍♂️

untold talon
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I am interested in that conversation as well (we lost power 3 times between 3am and 6am on Tuesday) and the lights kept going back on

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But right now no zha is working

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The check config is throwing the error

ripe hinge
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lol what we got here is a buncha...

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wow, moving the Hue light was much easier than I thought it would be. (I didn't have to stand up!) I'm gonna power down the RPi for a while, and see if that makes everything happier.

untold talon
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It looks like at some point I installed the custom deps deployment

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It has the following

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pypi:

  • 'git+https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/'
    apk: []
austere patio
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That'd do it

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That may be what's in your /config/deps/ folder. If there is nothing in there but that package, try deleting it and restart HA.

untold talon
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Delete the line in the addon config or the addon?

austere patio
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If you're not using it I would do both

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Whatever the addon installed into /config/deps/ is old so if that zhaquirks folder isn't removed by deleting the addon or its config, you'll likely have to manually delete this as well.

untold talon
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ok

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ok so in my config/deps

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I have a directory called lib

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in that I have a dir called pyton3.8

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then iste-packages

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then two dirs zhaquirks

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and zha_quirks-0.0.56.dist-info

austere patio
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I would remove that addon's config and delete the entire /config/deps/ folder

ripe hinge
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this might be a silly question, but while I'm at it: ZHA likes to add things to my entity names like "_level_on_off". I usually delete them. That's... okay, right?

untold talon
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That did it, thanks!

sour shadow
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I usually rename all my entities to reflect their location and function, rather than some weird random gibberish

worldly kiln
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Hi communauty, i got the sinope th1124zb and i wonder how to write the time on it, i found the manufacturing code, but the cluster writc do not permit the attribute cluster write anything on the id 0xFF01

fickle elbow
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How would I debug a zigbee device if I'm using zigbee2mqtt or ZHA? Worked the other day, now only 2 our of 6 data points show anything

dusk thistle
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Well guys. Just an update with my CRC error in frame messages that I was getting...
New stick just arrived and 0 error messages.

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I had tried a new fresh instance of HA in proxmox(current method of install), Tried new HA using VirtualBox, tried using usb 2.0 extenders, tried HA on my macbook using VirtualBox, updated the HUSBZB-1 firmware and still has issues on the old stick.

Now to move all my zwave devices to the new stick with the help of some beers.

fickle elbow
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Really? No one has anything to add to how to debug zigbee when it comes to Aqara? Been seeing this issue online since 2020.

jolly narwhal
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I haven't had a single issue with aqara and zigbee2mqtt in over 2 years, with... 20ish devices

dry fossil
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Fewer devices but also no problems once they're paired.

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But I'm sure someone will be around at some point with debugging instructions. You don't need to leave follow-up posts for attention.

steady glen
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is it possible to use shellby pucks with zigbee controllers? or dont i even need them for home assistant?

gentle flint
untold talon
jolly narwhal
coral condor
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Hi all, any good zigbee controller that goes well with home assistant? Thanks

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perhaps sonoff?

obsidian sandalBOT
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@coral condor There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's CC2652P2 based coordinators and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

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jolly narwhal
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I will recommend zigbee2mqtt with a cc2652 or cc1352p2

coral condor
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cool thanks!

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I will look into the deCONZ and hte zigbee2MQTT. I was watching the vids on the zigB2MQTT was thinking if I should try this out.

jolly narwhal
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It is in my opinion the most flexible

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With a proper coordinator

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The tube is good if you are in the states and the zzh if you are in Europe

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Both are often out of stock, so keep an eye out

coral condor
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cool I will keep an eye out for those

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thanks Atxbyea!

ivory hound
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on Zigbee2MQTT on web interface we have logs, i am running it in docker container, the thing that I don't like is if i open z2m web interface and click logs there is no logs there basically if want to see logs I have to leave it open

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how can i rectify that?

sour shadow
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AFAIK there's no way to load historical logs in the UI

ivory hound
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this is all log related stuff that i have in conf:

advanced:
  log_level: info
  log_file: zigbee2mqtt.log
  log_rotation: true
  log_output:
    - console
    - file
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maybe because i did not set syslog?

trim magnet
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HI, I have sonoff zibbee bridge and tasmotize it. But I change bridge location and cant connect to it. How to change ip?

sour shadow
ivory hound
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@trim magnet depends how is set up, but usually ip is assigned by your router dhcp server

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if you did not set manual ip on bridge itself this is where you should look, router

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i'll give it a try today see what will happen 🙂 i'll let you know @sour shadow

trim magnet
ivory hound
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@trim magnet this has nothing to do with zigbee

trim magnet
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but it is zigbee bridge 😄

sour shadow
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Well, it's a Tasmota thing, strictly 😛

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The right solution is a static DHCP lease. If you set a static IP on the device you'll need to change that on the device

ivory hound
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@trim magnet look in your router, it will tell you what ip it has now and it will let you set a static ip for it (thing that you will absolutely have to do)

trim magnet
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router cant see bridge, other place, other router

ivory hound
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u mean you are loked out and cant connect bridge to router?

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yah 2 solutions for you

obsidian sandalBOT
sour shadow
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☝️ Try their Discord to help you fix this

trim magnet
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I work with bridge at home, now I move bridge to my office and cant connect

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thanks for links

ivory hound
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yah your problem was leak of understanding how it works. what you should do is add second wifi network from the place you were going to
what you can do now is only 2 things

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  1. reset it not advisable
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  1. simplest solution make a wifi at your current location exactly how you have it at home
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connect to it change / add second one from your work office

trim magnet
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I try to tasmotize again but cant, get permission error

ivory hound
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switch back router wifi settings to office wifi

trim magnet
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ok I try to do second solution. Thanks

ivory hound
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2nd one is most simple

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login office router make note of all wifi settings you currently have

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make a new wifi like you have at home

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connect to sonoff

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add your office wifi settings

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switch back to original wifi in the office

trim magnet
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I will try, thanks for help

ivory hound
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what i like about them is the detection is instant

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battery life is long

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if anyone have some insight on it

sour shadow
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Search for that and you'll see lots of less than positive feedback

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The Hue sensors are apparently the gold standard, though I've found both the Konke and Xiaomi ones to be acceptable

ivory hound
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tbh your word is enough 🙂 this is why i am asking

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xiaomi i have

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they are not good

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at least not for me

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let me explain

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xiaomi sensor is good but detects motion once in 1 minute and half

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and it stays on for around 1 and half minute

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for me thats not good

sour shadow
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Then you want Hue

ivory hound
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the problem with hue like any other hue product is very expensive

sour shadow
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Good, cheap, pick one

ivory hound
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Samsung GP-U999SJVLBEA 🙂

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@sour shadow I do appreciate your answer man. I am looking into that sensor you said

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yah seem that smartthings samjin one and hue motion are about same price so i'll give it a try

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i have one of the Lidl sensors, motion one is there any way to set stuff like how fast detects or stuff for it on zigbee2mqtt? because for me is slow, if i set that sensor to be used in a light turn on automation until it detects me 2 seconds passes and is very annoying

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?

simple sentinel
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Don't even know if it's a thing but maybe you could bind the motion sensor to your light in z2m, skipping the hop between coordinator/HA entirely?

ivory hound
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the hop is not the problem

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the sensor detection time is

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it has like a 2 seconds delay until it detects anything

sour shadow
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I've found the Konke is a tiny bit faster - probably less than a second

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Go looking for motion_sensitivity in the Z2M docs though to see if it can be tuned

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(the answer appears to be that a whole three devices support it, two Hue, one Aqara)

compact plover
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@ivory hound so far I have only used the Aqara motion sensors, because they were reported to be fast. I have no complaints, I use them for lighting in hall and kitchen and study and all feel instant (usually)

ivory hound
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i want to give a try to konke and hue

compact plover
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@ivory hound yes mine are the same, but I haven't found that to be a problem. What issues does it cause you?

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I am intending to try the updated IKEA ones later this week so I'll find out how they are

ivory hound
# compact plover <@!503992494103592980> yes mine are the same, but I haven't found that to be a ...

when you start doing automation's for single mode in your home, multi mode etc you will see that those things matter a lot, for example if you use all aqara motion sensors all over your home for a automation single mode (single mode means you are single at home) then your home wont know in what room are you at all so automation won't work
with aqara your how would think you are in all the rooms traversed for at least 2 minutes

compact plover
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I guess that's not an issue for me as I only use it for specific rooms and I just want the lights to go off after 2 minutes rather than to go off immediately

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but yeah for accurate presence detection with rooms they are junk

ivory hound
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yes for that propose aqara ones are very reliable

compact plover
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I'd be interested to see what you discover with the others you try

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I was considering looking at the more expensive alarm systems that have PIR sensors and finding one that i can integrate with HA to use for room occupancy when I get to that stage

ivory hound
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why not do your own alarm system

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within ha

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i made one myself and never looked back

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it can even tell me if someone knok's on my door 🙂

compact plover
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due to the aforementioned motion sensors I guess. I would certainly consider it if I had a set of sensors that I was completely satisfied with

ivory hound
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the thing is this is not a conversation for #zigbee-archived but i assure you for an alarm in ha your aqara motion sensors would do just fine

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you should try it

compact plover
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thanks!

steady glen
compact plover
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do you connect your aqara motion sensors to the xiaomi gateway or use a generic zigbee device @ivory hound

ivory hound
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forget about xiaomi gw

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use ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

drifting vortex
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So this just reared it's head again this morning, tried to turn off the lights via the switch it's not working. Checked Deconz and it's still showing the switch but doesn't fire any events in HA. The lights themselves are still controlable and my temp sensor is still reporting data.
However this time I've been able to pair the device again this time, it's light flashes after doing the reset but just never links. Two things that could be relevant.

  1. Our power went off for a little bit this morning, however the server never went off as it's on UPS and obviously the switch is battery powered.
  2. I plugged a USB HD back into the server last night
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I only mention these as you just never know but the fact that the lights / sensor are still working suggests they are not the issue

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hmm, looks like it could be the USB HD, just unplugged it and it paired first time after that, but is it a case of interference being plugged in the usb slot right next to the ConbeeII or an actual hardware conflict?

drifting vortex
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so despite it now pairing the switch is still not actually working and I've tried pairing it several times over, I've restarted HA and restarted the deconz container, it still shows all the devices but neither the switch nor the sensor are now actually working.

drifting vortex
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ok finally it's all working again, tried replugging the ConbeeII but that didn't help, finally to check the integration in HA and when I went to the page it was asking me to configure the Deconz integration as if it was new, did that and all started working again.

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starting to get a little peeved at it stopping working randomly, though I guess this time at least there was a possibly reason
tomorrow I shall try plugging the USB HD into a rear port and see it still breaks anything.

ivory hound
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stop using that deCONZ 🙂 from my start here i never heard somebody come in here say "you know i like that deCONZ so much, it works very well" or other stuff like that 🙂

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in my opinion only ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT are ok at least from what i've tried

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and no, none of them with deCONZ sticks

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just trow away that conbee

drifting vortex
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I'd rather not it cost £30

ivory hound
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well you can consider it the worst investigation you've made

sour shadow
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You'll spend more than that on Zigbee hardware

jolly narwhal
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The cost of the coordinator is meaningless compared to everything else

ivory hound
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if you want i give you mine also 🙂 you can trow them both

drifting vortex
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lol

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ok, so are you saying I don't need any kind of separate piece of hardware? That the devices are all fine just talking to each other?

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or do I need a whole new piece of hardware

sour shadow
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No, you need to buy a decent coordinator

drifting vortex
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ok and recommendations on that? I thought when I first researched this Conbee II was considered the goto

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I obviously didn't read enough

ivory hound
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@drifting vortex i am gonna do for you what nobody usually do

drifting vortex
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thanks, well it's going to be a while before I can justify splashing out another £30+ so I'll do some research on those options, will have to keep setup alive for a few more months at least

sour shadow
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In the UK, buy a ZZH (Zig-A-Zig-Ah!) - it's a good choice for either ZHA or Z2M

ivory hound
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that ZZH i also have

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tbh i think elelabs one is more powerful

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but doesn't work with both integrations

tropic depot
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I think it does now

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z2m has prelim support for SI chipsets now AFAIK

drifting vortex
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ZZH looks promising, like that it's UK and like that it has an external Ariel as well

sour shadow
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Feedback I've seen from others suggests that the CC2652 based sticks perform much the same as the current generation of EZSP boards

tropic depot
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same here

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walt has extensive experience with both

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he can offer an opinion

sour shadow
ivory hound
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u mean ezsp ones that i have work with zigbee2mqtt?

simple sentinel
drifting vortex
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No it's plugged directly into the front USB port at the moment

simple sentinel
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An extension is best practice for all zigbee usb sticks. It might help with your troubles

drifting vortex
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thanks, will keep in mind if it misbehaves again

thick plover
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is there a guide on how to merge from say Philips Hue Hub to a zzh! CC2652R stick?

jolly narwhal
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genrly

simple sentinel
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No merge, sadly

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Unpair, repair

jolly narwhal
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It took me about 45 minutes to move 80+ devices from the Philips hub to zigbee2mqtt though

drifting vortex
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to hijack that, my philips hue bulbs are actually still connected to my Philips hue hub, should I not be doing that?

jolly narwhal
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No you want one mesh

drifting vortex
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Another job for my day off tomorrow then

jolly narwhal
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Days off

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I should do that

thick plover
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btw, did you have two hue hubs?

jolly narwhal
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No

compact plover
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has anyone used the sonoff bridge flashed with tasmoto? I bought one on a whim

jolly narwhal
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I just reset my bulbs and sensors one by one

drifting vortex
simple sentinel
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Fairly straightforward. Just delete the bulbs from the hue app/hub and they'll be ready to pair.

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Or deconz

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In your case

jolly narwhal
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I didn't even bother doing that

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Just reset the bulbs

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With pairing enabled in zigbee2mqtt

simple sentinel
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Disagree. Better to mothball the hue hub without phantom bulbs

jolly narwhal
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I'll tAke you to court!

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👨‍⚖️

simple sentinel
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I'm incorporated in Aruba, do your worst!

jolly narwhal
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I install Aruba every week, I'll uninstall you

simple sentinel
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Nooooo

thick plover
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also, i imagine resetting the bulb is a matter of deleting it from the hue app and then it goes back into pairing mode automatically?

jolly narwhal
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Yes, I have hue switches

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But we hardly use them

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Except for bedrooms all lights are automatic in both power and brightness / colour

thick plover
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are you able to see more of their entities using z2m? as with the hue integration, you can only see the battery level

thick plover
jolly narwhal
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I only care about button presses tbh

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So haven't looked at what else I can see

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My mi light sensor arrived

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This will be interesting

ivory hound
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thats a very good sensor

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i have 4

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you choose well

sour shadow
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I have three, I will be buying more 😄

ivory hound
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yah they are good

sour shadow
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I find they're good enough to replace my Z-Wave ones... which is a damned high bar for most Zigbee devices

jolly narwhal
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Not sure what I will use it for though

thick plover
jolly narwhal
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Yes

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A button can be used for anything