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simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 9:51 PM

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hmmm, I'm going to explode my whole setup and try to separate out the stuff from the main yaml

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 9:51 PM

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haha yes!

simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 9:52 PM

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straight away, with or without indentation?

dry fossil Apr 1, 2021, 9:52 PM

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It won't matter, as long as they're all correct relative to each other.

simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 9:52 PM

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😄

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nois

dry fossil Apr 1, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Semantically this:
thing
is the same as this:
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YAML just throws a fit when you don't have things nested correctly.

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 9:54 PM

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here's my devices.yml https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h9FdY7jPNG/

simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 9:54 PM

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sweet

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butchering the config to separate out devices and groups works. good times

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 10:09 PM

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im doing it too, right now!

simple sentinel Apr 1, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Are you doing it in the other direction? XD

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Is it dumb to ask how do i look at the logs? i tried with tails, but is that showing me them updated in real time?

dry fossil Apr 1, 2021, 10:23 PM

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docker logs -f zigbee2mqtt on the host should do the trick.

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(one of the few times you'll run a Docker command, even though you're using Docker Compose)

silent lintel Apr 1, 2021, 10:24 PM

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sweet!

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I am getting an error. This availabitly_blocklist entry was just a copy/paste from my Z2M addon to my new configuration.yml Should I delete it?

      availability_blocklist:[]

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this is my config https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bz2myw6PtW/

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well i deleted that and then it just went up 1 line with the error lol:

(node:17) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: YAMLException: can not read a block mapping entry; a multiline key may not be an implicit key at line 30, column 11:
          - 13
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ohhhh. my indenting is straight up ass

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yea fixed that!

junior sedge Apr 1, 2021, 11:46 PM

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Is there a way of knowing which version of zhaquirks is included with a given OS release? I have a device which is supported by the newest version of zhaquirks but i don't know when thst will make it into HA itself

silent lintel Apr 2, 2021, 12:06 AM

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I plugged my ZZH! into my NUC. I think it is ttyUSB0 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9XS75q7J37/ , but in the docs it always shows ttyACM0 https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/getting_started/running_zigbee2mqtt.html#1-determine-location-of-the-adapter-and-checking-user-permissions

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Does that mean that it didnt' recognize the device and I need to get drivers?

mellow geode Apr 2, 2021, 12:11 AM

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Yeah, I did have issues where it looked like there was no proper connection.

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Some people reported they need to put sticky tape over the cover

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I just "stretched" the metal contact behind the battery

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Seems to work fine now

silent lintel Apr 2, 2021, 12:37 AM

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I put ttyACM0 in both my configuration.yaml and my docker-compose.yml . I guess I could switch the name, and add it to Z2M by making it ttyUSB0 , but according to what I see online, that's the easy but wrong way; if i reboot the system, and I have multiple USB devices, there is no way to make sure what device will be assigned what ID or name.

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Okay, I'm getting conflicting info. ttyUSB0 is definitely a no-go with Slaesh. Maybe okay with ZZh ? https://electrolama.com/radio-docs/zigbee2mqtt/

silent lintel Apr 2, 2021, 1:14 AM

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dry fossil `docker logs -f zigbee2mqtt` on the host should do the trick.

This is cool, but how do i get out of this? once i do that no commands work, and I have to quit out of putty

spice kelp Apr 2, 2021, 1:56 AM

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silent lintel This is cool, but how do i get out of this? once i do that no commands work, and...

control-c

silent lintel Apr 2, 2021, 1:57 AM

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spice kelp control-c

hell yea!

fallow warren Apr 2, 2021, 9:14 AM

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is there any way whatsoever to go from cc2531 to a zzh without repairing some how the devices?

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:21 AM

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If it runs zb3.0 firmware today

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I believe so

fallow warren Apr 2, 2021, 9:23 AM

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the zzh i have no clue, ok so il check the cc2531 and then il setup the zzh accordingly?

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some of my lights are no longer on physical switches haha

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Anyone have ZHA with a Ikea motion sensor?

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:24 AM

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If your 2531 is running zb3 firmware today it can be done @fallow warren

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If not, it is repair required

fallow warren Apr 2, 2021, 9:25 AM

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ok will check in sec

inland marten Apr 2, 2021, 9:42 AM

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Does anyone have experience with conbee paired with zigbee2mqtt? I have a conbee II on the way but wondering what protocol is best to use with it.

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I've been told phoscon/deconz isn't the best at its current moment.

fallow warren Apr 2, 2021, 9:44 AM

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@jolly narwhal Zigbee2MQTT:info 2021-04-02 11:43:48: Coordinator firmware version: '{"meta":{"maintrel":3,"majorrel":2,"minorrel":6,"product":0,"revision":20190619,"transportrev":2},"type":"zStack12"}' Zigbee2MQTT:info 2021-04-02 11:43:48: Currently 33 devices are joined:

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:44 AM

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It isn't great

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@inland marten

fallow warren Apr 2, 2021, 9:44 AM

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😦

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:44 AM

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@fallow warren repair is at worst 1 minute per device though

fallow warren Apr 2, 2021, 9:45 AM

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repair as in re-pairing devices oor is there a repair function?

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:45 AM

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Repairing devices

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I did 80 or so in 45 minute

inland marten Apr 2, 2021, 9:45 AM

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@jolly narwhal Are you using it in this combination?

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:45 AM

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No

inland marten Apr 2, 2021, 9:46 AM

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I hear different stories so figured best to ask here

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:46 AM

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I see a lot of users with problems

inland marten Apr 2, 2021, 9:46 AM

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one says it works fine others say its not great. I just question what the drawbacks are.

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Would ZHA or Deconz be preffered over zigbee2mqtt?

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:47 AM

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I will always recommend zigbee2mqtt

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With a modern TI stick

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Cc1352, cc2652, etc

inland marten Apr 2, 2021, 9:48 AM

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Issue is, in the netherlands supply of other zigbee sticks is limited and if I want to buy e.g. a cc2652 like the zzh it would require ordering from the UK and the price would legit be 50% more due to customs and shipping

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The zzh also has limited supply.

fallow warren Apr 2, 2021, 9:49 AM

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i just bought zzh to norway its not that much extra

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:50 AM

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We have tax on incoming goods in Norway too, the cc1352 was delivered from Texas in 3 days with no extra tax 🤣

inland marten Apr 2, 2021, 9:50 AM

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I'd need to pay 21% VAT over the price as a starters

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😩

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Usually we do too

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But seldom I do

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I get 20 packages a month from AliExpress and other places

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Recently Ali has started having the tax included though

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Which is zzzz

inland marten Apr 2, 2021, 9:51 AM

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hehe

violet dagger Apr 2, 2021, 9:52 AM

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other places????

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:52 AM

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Sometimes I get packages from third world countries, like the USA @violet dagger

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EYEBROWS

inland marten Apr 2, 2021, 9:52 AM

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ye i bought aqara sensors on ali. They show e.g. 6e a piece but once added to the cart and whatnot 6e turns into 10e

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still cheap though

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compared to 18e retail a piece locally

violet dagger Apr 2, 2021, 9:53 AM

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the poor USians need some commerce too i guess

fallow warren Apr 2, 2021, 9:55 AM

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would it work to upgrade the CC2531 to a new version?

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 10:01 AM

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Nope

fallow warren Apr 2, 2021, 10:02 AM

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hmm ok ok

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ok then re pairing all devices it is...

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3rd time

void ridge Apr 2, 2021, 10:06 AM

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My ZHA coordinator IP got changed. Can I update it somewhere in Home Assistant?

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Oh yeah I can, behind "rename". That wasn't logical at all

calm falcon Apr 2, 2021, 10:22 AM

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HI checked this morning it has become unavailable again ?? This time i only have one zigbee network!!!! Also when i add back under the new name i used yesterday it flips states!

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 11:03 AM

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Hello - Im on Z2M
I have some Aqara door sensors that will not show up in Z2m - First time they failed and now they don't show up at all?
error 2021-04-02 12:29:41: Failed to interview '0x842e14fffea30d70', device has not successfully been paired
error 2021-04-02 12:30:49: Failed to interview '0x00124b002236143c', device has not successfully been paired

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I checked devices and db. and so on and they are not there - Anyway to add them?

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 11:07 AM

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Which coordinator?

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And do you have enough routers in the location you are pairing ?

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Im trying right next to the coordinator and trying at other routers - Have routers thoughout the apartment

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Coordinator is a CC2531 - No problems earlier, but attempted ZHA with dissapointment and wanted to go back to Z2m

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Yeah, the cc2531.... Isn't great

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 11:11 AM

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I know - But all other devices go on without any problems

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https://imgur.com/a/2xSIxsJ

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I have 5 Door sensors, and none want to go on

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 11:15 AM

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Which model? I have 6 of these that work just fine with cc1352 and z2m

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livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 11:15 AM

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4 of those

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I removed 2 devices that was "unsupported" and now its like nothing wants to pair

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Force remove

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And now its just shit

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 11:16 AM

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Have you tried restarting the z2m instance and replugging the adapter?

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 11:17 AM

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Nope - Afraid to loose all the paired items 😄 - Maybe I should try

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 11:17 AM

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Yes

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 11:19 AM

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Yay - One of them on ❤️

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 12:10 PM

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Thanks for the assistance - I think I got it to work apart from my Ikea motion sensor - Its on but in occupancy it just says N/A

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 12:20 PM

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Ikea motion sensors... Is shite 🤣

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 12:21 PM

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Yeees

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I know 😄

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I have some more trouble 💩

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Though Zigbee2mqtt I can turn devices on/off and see their state - But in my lovelace they are all unavailable

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And under devices they are unavailable too.

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 12:32 PM

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And what does the z2m log say?

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 12:35 PM

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Nothing

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Utilgængelig = Unavailable
https://imgur.com/a/J5cRQrM

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Tried reconfigureing the MQTT integration without luck

summer thicket Apr 2, 2021, 12:54 PM

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livid torrent Though Zigbee2mqtt I can turn devices on/off and see their state - But in my lov...

Check and see if the entity_id changed in HA

drifting vortex Apr 2, 2021, 12:56 PM

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I posted yesterday about one of my Sonoff switches that had randomly stopped working and I needed to repair it, now it's being really odd with it's reporting of battery level.
When I first added it back yesterday it showed a battery level of 100%, however after an hour or so when I looked it was showing down to 14%, then later it was showing 30 something %. Just looked again and it's showing back up to 45%.
I ordered some new batteries yesterday as a precaution when I saw it showing 14% so will put one in as soon as they arrive just to see what happens.
But has any one any ideas what the heck is going on with it?

glad plume Apr 2, 2021, 12:59 PM

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Hi Team, Can you tell me how can I change parameteres like "occupancy_timeout" in the settings of a device in Zigbee2MQTT?

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In which menu point should I add this or edit this?

azure tinsel Apr 2, 2021, 1:12 PM

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Is there a way to backup the zha network? Or is a full snapshot enough to get it back up again after a crash

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 1:20 PM

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@glad plume it's in the docs for zigbee2mqtt

glad plume Apr 2, 2021, 1:20 PM

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jolly narwhal <@544176222842912770> it's in the docs for zigbee2mqtt

if it would be there and understandable I would not ask.

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 1:22 PM

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Just checked, it's there

glad plume Apr 2, 2021, 1:28 PM

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jolly narwhal Just checked, it's there

that makes no sense. I ask because what is written there looks unrealistic. It says I have to modify it in the configuration.yaml. but now I should add one by one all my hundred device to the configuration.yaml just because changing this data? Are you sure it cannot be edited trough the GUI in Zigbee2MQTT?

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Ok, doesnt matter its better if you not answer. I dont want to go into toxic chats with young ones. Ive seen you are just here to argue with others.

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@jolly narwhal just for your information. maybe you can learn also something new. I finally found the settings, and it can be changed by GUI and its not in the documentation. so even your arguing was not based on any knowledge.

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https://imgur.com/a/33hVAu8

dry fossil Apr 2, 2021, 2:24 PM

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I only see one person being toxic here. Wind your neck in.

silent lintel Apr 2, 2021, 3:31 PM

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I'm in the process of migrating from my Pi > NUC running #449717345808547842. My log shows 0 devices connected

copied most settings; pan_id, network_key, from my HA Addon to my new configuration.yaml in my z2m directory on my new host.
copied these files: devices.yaml configuration.yaml state.json from my HA addon to my new host
made sure to ad listener 1883 to mosquitto.conf
log: https://hatebin.com/trqaqrsmps
working settings: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DWp5GsZYpT/
NUC settings: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4TjShs8GDR/
mosquitto.conf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7jkMKSTq7y/

silent lintel Apr 2, 2021, 4:31 PM

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I thought maybe it would just take a bit of time for them to connect, but it still says 0 devices after 1 hour

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 5:07 PM

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If you copy everything from one instance of zigbee2mqtt to another and use the same coordinator

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You should be golden

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Try stopping the z2m container, remap to a new folder on the host, copy in all files from the add-on and verify the permissions, then start the container again

silent lintel Apr 2, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Okay I will try that. Can you explain a little about what I should be verifying w/r/t permissions?
That tip you gave me - sudo chgrp -r /absolute/path agroup has been really helpful.
In fact just learning the word recursive has been eye opening.

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Now let me tell you about . and ~

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EYEBROWS

silent lintel Apr 2, 2021, 5:29 PM

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One thing I have noticed is that if i want to edit some of the files i have to sudo

sour shadow Apr 2, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Then that means your current user doesn't have permissions to edit those files

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They're owned by another user, and your group doesn't have read and write access to the file

silent lintel Apr 2, 2021, 5:31 PM

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okay. Probably unlikely then that if I fix that, it will solve my Z2M problems?

sour shadow Apr 2, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Maybe - all the files should be owned by the user that Z2M runs as

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 8:45 PM

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Would you use Zigbee2MQTT or ZHA?
I have the 1st butjust learned about the 2nd. It could replace the 1st?

golden vessel Apr 2, 2021, 8:47 PM

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I use zha. Yes, it can replace z2m.

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 8:47 PM

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After alot of trouble with ZHA I choose Zigbee2mqtt

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 8:48 PM

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wth

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 8:48 PM

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I even just updated my firmware on my CC2531 with the newest to get my Ikea motion sensor to work - Took about half an hour with an arduino and some cables and success! 😄

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 8:48 PM

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the other day ppl said the exact opposite.

golden vessel Apr 2, 2021, 8:49 PM

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livid torrent After alot of trouble with ZHA I choose Zigbee2mqtt

What troubles and what stick?

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 8:49 PM

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i have 1 conbee2 and 2 clean cc2531.. i cba to flash them so far.

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 8:49 PM

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CC2531 - I had a smartthings siren that wasnt working on it and a Zigbee smoke sensor

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So I went to Zigbee2mqtt where everything now works.

golden vessel Apr 2, 2021, 8:50 PM

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livid torrent CC2531 - I had a smartthings siren that wasnt working on it and a Zigbee smoke s...

I think support for that is still experimental on zha

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 8:51 PM

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It is

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 8:52 PM

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ZHA and conbee fine?

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 8:52 PM

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But still I don't think ZHA supports the Smartthings Siren and the Zigbee smoke alarm - Not sure what brand.

golden vessel Apr 2, 2021, 8:53 PM

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balmy ginkgo ZHA and conbee fine?

I used a conbee 1 for a long time and it worked fine

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 8:53 PM

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zigbee2mqtt supports a lot though

golden vessel Apr 2, 2021, 8:55 PM

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If a device follows the Zigbee standard, ZHA supports it

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 8:55 PM

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It's one or the other right, can't use both with 1 stick.

livid torrent Apr 2, 2021, 8:56 PM

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Go and tell that to my Smartthings Siren Abmantis 😉

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 8:56 PM

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i will make a backup and just give it a go

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 8:57 PM

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Long live zigbee2mqtt

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If you have a proper coordinator

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 8:57 PM

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whats a coordinator? The conbee2 in my case?

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Yes

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Which is experimental with zigbee2mqtt at best, and we have seen a lot of users lately have issues with the combo

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 8:59 PM

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i saw some YT where they say some device not working trough zigbee repeaters. That true?

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Some routers (bulbs etc) aren't great

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I use mostly IKEA tradfri and Xiaomi aqara

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I have zero issues with a 100+ device network

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 9:00 PM

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works fine for me, it's just the motion sensors (Sonoff) that give me grief. 7/8 are bad. (triggers every minute, drains battery. even in z drawer)

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:01 PM

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Sonoff is... Eh

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I've had some of my Xiaomi aqara sensors for over 2 years

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 9:01 PM

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i ordered new ones from aqara

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i have tha aqara temp ones

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:02 PM

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I've replaced 2 batteries so far in... 30ish battery devices

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 9:02 PM

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very good quality product

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aqara: 2 temp, 3 switches and 2 lightbulbs on boat atm

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:04 PM

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I have 2 wireless double rockers, four mini buttons, 6 door sensors, 6 motion sensors, 9 temp sensors

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Plus some IKEA and hue switches

balmy ginkgo Apr 2, 2021, 9:08 PM

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i had 150 Euro shopping basket for Ikea. Went to checkout. "We dont deliver when do you want to pick it up" Byee-eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

fluid leaf Apr 2, 2021, 9:12 PM

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I'm new to Zigbee, getting a bunch of stuff tomorrow (zzh! stick for the coordinator). Anyone have a good reference for basic RPi-based commands for managing a network? Basic stuff like scanning the mesh, determining what's connected, signal levels, identifying routers vs end devices, etc

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:23 PM

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Well, all of that is available via zigbee2mqtt web frontend

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No idea about the other implementations

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You don't manage by raspberrypi os cli atleast

fluid leaf Apr 2, 2021, 9:26 PM

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I guess I want to go one layer below what zigbee2mqtt is

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Why?

fluid leaf Apr 2, 2021, 9:28 PM

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learning and understanding is fun

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:28 PM

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But it makes no sense

golden vessel Apr 2, 2021, 9:29 PM

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fluid leaf learning and understanding is fun

if you are a dev, just start developing zigpy or zha or z2m and you'll learn about the lower level stuff

jolly narwhal Apr 2, 2021, 9:30 PM

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this

fluid leaf Apr 2, 2021, 9:38 PM

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zigpy looks like a good starting point; thanks!

balmy ginkgo Apr 3, 2021, 12:36 AM

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ok i running ZHA now. My SNZB03 (Sonoff pushbuttons) only show battery. No other properties. Am i right in assuming proprietary trick is to make your HUB know the capabilities of the device and then just not send the prop rinfo during a handshake/negotiation when adding to the network?

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the aqara stuff regged ok it seems. Just no linkquality as well as tamper and batterylow but that might be something zigbee2MQTT added

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actually maybe it's just ZHA doesn't understand that yet.

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x6c7b:1:0x0006] ZCL request 0x0001: []
[0x6c7b:1:0x0006] No handler for cluster command 1

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Log is not timestamped.. come on ppl :/

mellow geode Apr 3, 2021, 1:06 AM

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You need to listen for zha_event in the developer tools

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Or perhaps there are even device automations pre-made for your Sonoff button

balmy ginkgo Apr 3, 2021, 1:11 AM

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ok found something in community

golden vessel Apr 3, 2021, 1:14 AM

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@balmy ginkgo in the automation UI, if you chose Device in the trigger type, and then select the sonoff, doesn't it have a few triggers?

balmy ginkgo Apr 3, 2021, 1:15 AM

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uh i dunno .. i was expecting it to show up when pairing it. I am now doing: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zha-sonoff-zigbee-switch/268628

golden vessel Apr 3, 2021, 1:15 AM

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but it did show up

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if it is a button, the only entity it has is the battery. link quality is show on the device page (LQI), and clicking it is an event

balmy ginkgo Apr 3, 2021, 1:17 AM

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aw ok. I cant check coz i am in process of implementing blueprint.. willcheck in a bit

golden vessel Apr 3, 2021, 1:17 AM

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yeah, you can also use a blueprint 🙂

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also, you can always open more tabs on your browser 😄

balmy ginkgo Apr 3, 2021, 1:18 AM

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NEIN! 🙂

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That's not sustainable.

golden vessel Apr 3, 2021, 1:18 AM

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its fine, as long as you close it in the same day!

balmy ginkgo Apr 3, 2021, 1:19 AM

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ok BP works

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Ok i see LQI there but the ZB2MQTT put it as a property so i could use it in cards.

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SO what you ment earlier is if i create an automation and say it is based on the switch i should see the stuff too?

golden vessel Apr 3, 2021, 1:23 AM

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balmy ginkgo SO what you ment earlier is if i create an automation and say it is based on the...

yeah. just select trigger type "Device"

balmy ginkgo Apr 3, 2021, 1:24 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/zY6wKA0.png

golden vessel Apr 3, 2021, 1:24 AM

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oh, they are missing 🤔 maybe no one has added them yet

balmy ginkgo Apr 3, 2021, 1:25 AM

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garykrige to the rescue 😉

golden vessel Apr 3, 2021, 1:25 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/J3lQu0l

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thats for an IKEA remote

balmy ginkgo Apr 3, 2021, 1:26 AM

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1 click light on,. 2 clicks light off, long press 30%. Wonder why they don't have a 3 click

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THis blueprint is much better i used to have 3 automations for this 🙂

golden vessel Apr 3, 2021, 1:27 AM

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xiaomi buttons have up to 5 I think

balmy ginkgo Apr 3, 2021, 1:27 AM

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3 on the boat from china as we speak

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I hooked up the broken Sonoff motion detects.. still broken. triggering for no reason. I hoped maybe .. with ZHA it would magically work

golden vessel Apr 3, 2021, 1:31 AM

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I've had ghosts on some xiaomi motion sensors too (not frequent) and on IKEA motion sensors (very very frequent)

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have you tried changing batteries?

balmy ginkgo Apr 3, 2021, 1:31 AM

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yes.

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The batteries were drained for the most erroring ones. like 40% i have 1 that's flawless it is still at 100%. I had sensors messaging a motion every minute.

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something like that the bar was just 1 pixel red 1 pixel green over and over

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They briefly worked. I wonde rif it's something environmental in my house

trim magnet Apr 3, 2021, 2:29 PM

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hi, what could you offer a zigbee thermostat that runs on batteries and has a temperature sensor?

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Did you look at the lists of known working hardware in the pinned messages?

trim magnet Apr 3, 2021, 2:30 PM

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where I can find this list?

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 2:30 PM

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In the pinned messages

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📌

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Top of the window, on the right - just after the channel topic

trim magnet Apr 3, 2021, 2:31 PM

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ok, thanks

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 2:31 PM

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The topics in every channel tell you what's on topic, and what other key things you need to know

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Most channels have pinned messages for key information

late imp Apr 3, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Is there any issues with the deconz image (stable version), suddenly im not able to control the lights

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Are you talking about the deCONZ add-on?

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Or their own installer?

late imp Apr 3, 2021, 6:57 PM

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im running it on a seperate rpi

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 3, 2021, 6:57 PM

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deCONZ by dresden elektronik is a software that communicates with ConBee/RaspBee Zigbee gateways and exposes Zigbee devices that are connected to the gateway. Our #zigbee-archived channel is a good place to ask about using it with Home Assistant, but they also have their own Discord server.

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 6:58 PM

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If you can't control the lights from the deCONZ UI, I'd ask on their Discord

hybrid beacon Apr 3, 2021, 7:35 PM

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do you know if deconz.configure service allows templating? I'd like to put temperatures read by external sensor to my trv

hybrid beacon Apr 3, 2021, 7:41 PM

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trim magnet hi, what could you offer a zigbee thermostat that runs on batteries and has a te...

ZEN thermostat

lime locust Apr 3, 2021, 7:51 PM

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I've got zigbee2mqtt running , but wanna view its map (bought some zigbee bulbs, wanna see if my battery powered devices connect to it ) is it easy to add the webgui for zigbee2mqtt ?

jolly narwhal Apr 3, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Yes

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Two lines in the config file

lime locust Apr 3, 2021, 7:52 PM

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ah only edit configuration.yaml ?

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got it running as a container though

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server: 'mqtt://localhost:1883'

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this one ?

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 7:55 PM

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/frontend.html

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It has very complete docs 😉

jolly narwhal Apr 3, 2021, 7:55 PM

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Very

lime locust Apr 3, 2021, 7:55 PM

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ah thnks 🙂

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port 8080 can be changed to any port not taken

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Well, yes

lime locust Apr 3, 2021, 7:57 PM

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host: 0.0.0.0 = localhost ?

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 7:58 PM

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No

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That's all interfaces

lime locust Apr 3, 2021, 8:01 PM

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ok got it , nice its working , got a bulb , but no battery devices paired to it , do i need to repair the battery ones around the bulb ?

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 8:01 PM

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Not really

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Other than Xiaomi, things will re-route as required

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Even Xiaomi stuff may re-route

lime locust Apr 3, 2021, 8:02 PM

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ah nice

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what happens when devices routed through the bulb , and someone "accidentaly" flips its mains switch ?

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 8:03 PM

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They eventually reconnect, hopefully

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Maybe after a few hours, maybe never

lime locust Apr 3, 2021, 8:03 PM

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ah

jolly narwhal Apr 3, 2021, 8:08 PM

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I recommend stop using mains buttons

lime locust Apr 3, 2021, 8:18 PM

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map doesnt show routers routes ? (includeRoutes: False)

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some devices seem to have gone up in lqi , had some devices on the edge of disconnecting

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these zigbee 230v devices , will repair after a power-out ?

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 8:21 PM

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Yup

lime locust Apr 3, 2021, 8:22 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/y4Ua7yu

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the bulb is quite near its coordinator yet shows 23lqi/25lqi ?

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91/25

sour shadow Apr 3, 2021, 8:26 PM

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So it may have a lousy antenna. Or there's interference, or ...

gloomy pivot Apr 3, 2021, 8:40 PM

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so I have these bulbs: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/E11-N1EA.html

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and adding them in z2m let's them expose effects into HA... but they don't seem to actually do anything

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is this common?

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https://imgur.com/163fy0o

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for example

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I've set "breathe", but nothing happens to the light that is different from it just being on

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when i set that, this is published to the /set topic for the bulb:

{
  "state": "ON",
  "effect": "breathe"
}

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but nothing else ever happens

fair storm Apr 3, 2021, 9:28 PM

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Hi! Having taken the step to install Zigbee2mqtt (with ConBeeII stick) on my Intel NUC Home Assistant server, I have finally (!) thrown out my IKEA Hub. All my ZWave and ZigBee nodes are now fully controlled by my HA server. However, I would like to bind my Ikea light switches to my Ikea Light Bulbs/Panels so that they can be controlled even if my HA server is down (e.g. due to upgrades).
For the moment I control all my Zigbee devices through HomeAssistant, so that button presses acts on my lights and blinds, but would like to make sure they also works directly without HA running.
I have tried binding the switches to the lights from the Zigbee2mqtt GUI, but none of the buttons cause the lights to react. I am runnint Home Assistant OS 5.12, Zigbee2mqtt 1.18.2-1 and Conbee II rev. 0x26680700.

E.g. I have one IKEA 5-button light switch (model E1524/E1810) and one IKEA LED Bulb (model LED1624G9) that I would like to bind. Looking at the switch I have the following:
"Source EP 1" bound to "On/Off" cluster of "default_bind_group" and "Source EP 1" bound to "PowerCfg" cluster or "coordinator EP 1".

Then I guess I would bind the "Source EP 1" of the swithc to the light bulb's EP 1 cluster "on/off" and "level control" in order to control on/off and brightness/color of the light. Right? Well that is not working for me, unfortunately.

The following clusters are available:
Identify, Groups, OnOff, LevelCtrl, Ota and Touchlink.

Similarly I struggle to bind the IKEA Blinds control to the corresponding IKEA Blinds.

Any help in making the binding work is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help.

gloomy pivot Apr 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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what i did when i was dealing with binding was to connect using MQTT Explorer, and attempted the binding (by manually publishing to the endpoint) repeatedly until the binding was successful

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i was binding lutron aurora dimmers to sengled bulbs (the same ones i mention above)... but ended up going a different route entirely, and controlling them via HA automations triggered by the mqtt event generated by the dimmer

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i did that because my sengled bulbs weren't reporting their state BACK to z2m after having been changed by the bound remote, so the state inside HA would often have a mismatch with the physical state of the bulb

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from what i understand, ikea bulbs do report their state correctly, but i haven't tried any of those out, so ymmv obviously

fair storm Apr 3, 2021, 10:46 PM

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gloomy pivot from what i understand, ikea bulbs do report their state correctly, but i haven'...

Thanks. Do you have any links on how to use MQTT Explorer to bind devices?

gloomy pivot Apr 3, 2021, 10:56 PM

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/binding.html

mighty river Apr 4, 2021, 12:26 PM

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So I have CC2531 currently but I bought myself a new zzh with CC2652R. Now I need to replace one with another...but what will happen to the devices that were under old one? Should I simply unplug old one and plug new one? Or maybe there's need to be something done with HA before that?

jolly narwhal Apr 4, 2021, 12:29 PM

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What method @mighty river ?

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Zha, z2m ?

mighty river Apr 4, 2021, 12:34 PM

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Oh, sry. ZHA

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I keep forgetting that there are different methods

jolly narwhal Apr 4, 2021, 12:36 PM

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No idea then

molten linden Apr 4, 2021, 12:45 PM

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@mighty river check out the back up and restore here https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md

golden vessel Apr 4, 2021, 12:45 PM

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mighty river So I have CC2531 currently but I bought myself a new zzh with CC2652R. Now I nee...

if you want to be on the safe side, reset them and pair again...

mighty river Apr 4, 2021, 12:52 PM

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@molten linden @golden vessel Thanks, I'll check that backup and also consider 'simple' recreation of my very small network. 🙂

summer thicket Apr 4, 2021, 12:57 PM

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@mighty river Beings it's "very small" I'd just re-pair.

mighty river Apr 4, 2021, 12:58 PM

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summer thicket <@456226577798135808> Beings it's "very small" I'd just re-pair.

OK, but in this scenario should I simply unplug old one and plug new one? It's just I don't want to have some leftovers in the HA...

summer thicket Apr 4, 2021, 1:07 PM

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Remove entities before changing coordinators.

golden vessel Apr 4, 2021, 2:06 PM

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mighty river OK, but in this scenario should I simply unplug old one and plug new one? It's j...

remove the zha integration

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probably the entity ids will stick around, so you won't have to rename things again...

summer thicket Apr 4, 2021, 2:24 PM

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golden vessel probably the entity ids will stick around, so you won't have to rename things ag...

Want it _2 them?

golden vessel Apr 4, 2021, 2:25 PM

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IIRC it doesn't

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but I may be wrong... nothing like trying 😄

silent lintel Apr 4, 2021, 7:23 PM

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I got all my Z2M devices migrated over from my old set up. 👍
3 light bulbs that are functioning in my Z2M frontend are showing up as unavailable in HA.
Has anybody experienced that?
Running the latest-dev and #449717345808547842

sour shadow Apr 4, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Check the Z2M log - see if it reports that it can't reach the bulbs

silent lintel Apr 4, 2021, 7:24 PM

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will do!

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~~You mean the HA logs, right?~~

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duh sorry

silent lintel Apr 4, 2021, 7:44 PM

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So good news is no error logs, or warning logs. 0x0017880108197B79 is the bulb, and when I set it to debug i get this:

And with Info i get this:

MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/not_sure_router', payload '{"description":"36240/0x0017880108197B79","led":false,"linkquality":78,"rssi":0,"type":"NEIGHBOR"}'

These logs look slightly different than I am used to, but the only thing that sticks out to me, is that not_sure_router is on the opposite side of the apartement as the bulbs. I've got 4 routers and a coordinator, and that one is the furthest away.

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So some good news! 2 out of the 3 lights are working. I couldnt' find them cuz their name changed:
previously light.0x0017880106c01547_light -> now light.0x0017880106c01547
During the migration,I guess the name changed?

sour shadow Apr 4, 2021, 7:55 PM

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Quite possibly

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I do tend to rename everything in Z2M, picking the option to update the HA entity ID

silent lintel Apr 4, 2021, 7:56 PM

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i love that feature

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that still goes with the container version?

sour shadow Apr 4, 2021, 7:56 PM

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There's nothing special about the different install methods

silent lintel Apr 4, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Ha! alrighty then

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That just leaves one bulb that I can turn on+off from the Z2M front end, but is missing from HA. Could renaming it potentially make it appear in HA?

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omg i found it

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also renamed

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 4, 2021, 10:17 PM

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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's CC2652P2 based coordinators and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

runic hazel Apr 4, 2021, 10:58 PM

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I'm trying to fin where I had instructions about writing firmware to a CC2531 stick

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I thought there were instructions somewhere for writing it using an ESP or something, I found one set that uses RasPi

runic hazel Apr 4, 2021, 11:34 PM

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/alternative_flashing_methods.html

azure tinsel Apr 4, 2021, 11:42 PM

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I really start to wonder if zha is programmed correctly... I have some endpoint devices connected to the network last with routers only 1 or 2 metres away. Still they link to light bulbs on the other side of the house leaving them with a shitty connection. Why isnt every device finding the best connection? Why does it seem like every device is trying it's best to find the worst connection and pair to that one. Can this be fixed?

austere patio Apr 4, 2021, 11:58 PM

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azure tinsel I really start to wonder if zha is programmed correctly... I have some endpoint ...

ZHA has no control over this

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Permit joins through specific routers if the end devices you join seem to pick bad parents

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 12:36 AM

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hey - so if I'm using ZHA I had to reflash my Controller - does the Zigbee database allow the devices to check back in?

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or do I need to re-pair my lights, etc ?

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cause like currently all the entities show up as Unavailable
https://i.imgur.com/nJMInsQ.png

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if I look at the Network Visualization - it shows stuff
https://i.imgur.com/eJDsHEU.png
but it's like.,... a mess right now

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I do see these "Scanning neighbors of 00:17:88:01:02:a0:fc:29/0xab25 device" type entries - and earlier I saw some logs from the ZHA stuff about trying to rebuild groups or something
https://i.imgur.com/8pU9Jxi.png

molten linden Apr 5, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Which coordinator?

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 12:52 AM

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cc2531

molten linden Apr 5, 2021, 12:52 AM

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You’ll need to rejoin unless you backed it up before reflashing

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 12:52 AM

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backed what up?

molten linden Apr 5, 2021, 12:53 AM

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The nvram on the stick

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 12:54 AM

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does the zigbee.db file do anything?

molten linden Apr 5, 2021, 12:54 AM

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https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md#backup-and-restore

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 12:54 AM

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like I'm seeing several "restored" devices and groups - is that where those are coming from?

molten linden Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 AM

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Ha knows about the devices but the stick doesn’t

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 12:56 AM

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yeah - looking at the ZHA Events - it looks like there are a lot of devices trying to check in, but the stick just doesn't let them

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presumably cause the pairing is bad now :/

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alllllright - I guess I'll get to re-pairing here in a little bit

austere patio Apr 5, 2021, 12:56 AM

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If you re-flashed without backing up the network data then your network settings were completely re-generated and your old network is completely gone

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If you have any old HA debug logs the network settings would be in there

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Otherwise re-joining everything to the new network is unfortunately the only solution

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 12:57 AM

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fair enough - whatever had happened to my old network anyway it had stopped working and the USB Stick was restarting/disconnecting every 30 seconds or so anyway

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so it probably wouldn't hurt to give it a fresh start anyway I guess

austere patio Apr 5, 2021, 12:58 AM

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The USB stick was disconnecting?

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 1:00 AM

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yeah
#330990055533576204 message
Logs
https://gist.github.com/PsychoData/ba2638cadf80586133f0bb66c7973993

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basically it seemed to hit an issue with
[ 69.405629] cdc_acm 3-1:1.0: failed to set dtr/rts
Then it would disconnect from the host, then reconnect then retry about 30 seconds later

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and repeat ..... and repeat .... and repeat .....

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after reflashing the CC2531 chip though - I'm not seeing that (idk if it's different/newer firmware or anything though)

austere patio Apr 5, 2021, 1:02 AM

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Yep, that's the CC2531 lockup bug

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You can "fix" it by just unplugging the CC2531 and plugging it back in

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Though I've not heard of one not working after being unplugged and plugged back in

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 6:53 AM

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yeah it never would fix if I unplugged/replugged it

azure tinsel Apr 5, 2021, 9:10 AM

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pudly how do i let devices join a specific router. is this from within HA select the router and select add devices through this device?

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If so then i allready tried that but without any luck. or maybe the visual interface shows the wrong links?

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Its running for a few days now and it seems that the system is still trying new links. Could this be true? Can it take days or even weeks to finalize its setup? Or is it an ongoing process

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 9:46 AM

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Zigbee devices will pick their own connections and routes, you can't force that

azure tinsel Apr 5, 2021, 9:47 AM

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then its time for zigbee 4.0 in which you can... apparently zigbee 3.0 isnt doing a very good job in establishing descent connections

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its stupid devices i add to the network join on a router with an LQI of 40 on the other side of town while there is a router within 1 metre of it

dry fossil Apr 5, 2021, 10:05 AM

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zigbee 3.0 isnt doing a very good job in establishing descent connections
You mean your mesh sucks. 🤷‍♂️

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An LQI of 40 doesn't matter if things work. If things don't work, add more routers.

azure tinsel Apr 5, 2021, 10:05 AM

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i have 50 routers in my house

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every damn light in here is a router

dry fossil Apr 5, 2021, 10:06 AM

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And things work, right?

azure tinsel Apr 5, 2021, 10:07 AM

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most do work indeed. every now and then a light wont come on though with motion sensor

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or delayed

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im trying to fix that

dry fossil Apr 5, 2021, 10:08 AM

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So there's no problem with the way Zigbee decides how to manage the mesh. Gotcha.

azure tinsel Apr 5, 2021, 10:09 AM

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well if my doorbel button is connected to the attick while there is an outside lamp 30cm away i would say its pretty dumb

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Or like i said the visualization of ZHA is off

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some dont even seem to have a link in the visual interface but do work

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Its funny that after using deconz which was the worst btw. the hue bridge and now ZHA, Hue bridge is still the most solid solution. with no delay and all devices reacting like they should. all the time. So for some reason all the other options like deconz and ZHA are doing worse job for some reason

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And im trying to figure out how to fix it. because hue bridge isnt an option

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One last question. based on what are the links made in a zigbee network?

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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Well, there's official specs, and there's what manufacturers do

fair storm Apr 5, 2021, 12:28 PM

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gloomy pivot https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/binding.html

Well, I managed to bind the IKEA switches to my outdoor light and my 2 kitchen lights (group). I can now control these lights without HA Automation involved, and can in addition control them from HA. However, when I bound my entrance ligth to its switch (both IKEA), the binding shows up in zigbee2mqtt control panel, but I am not able to control the lights from the switch. Very strange, as the procedure I followed was the same for all 3 swithces.

I see that Zigbee2MQTT Control panel lists a "default_bind_group" for all devices and for the IKEA Switches this is bound to OnOFF cluster. For my outdoor light I managed to unbind the switch from this "default_bind_group". But for other devices I am not able to unbind from this group.

Could this be causing problems controlling the lights from the bound switches?

gloomy pivot Apr 5, 2021, 1:03 PM

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not really sure, but it could be... does the switch have an led on the buttons?

ivory hound Apr 5, 2021, 1:04 PM

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can anyone link me to a good config on how to change (calibrate temperature for a aqara sensor)? whatever i've tried doesn't seem to work

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 1:27 PM

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What could be causing that I can't pair devices if I'm close to my deconz stick but when I'm on the other side of the house it pairs through a light there and it works. Tried to add remotes and sensors like 10-15 times and failed. Moved to the other side of the house and all pairs on first try through the light.

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I have lights and sensors that I'd rather not move to the other side of the house for pairing

ivory hound Apr 5, 2021, 1:29 PM

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routers that you have (in the part where they dont pair) don't support children that you want to pair

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move the bulb that pairs them whre you want them paired

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 1:30 PM

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I'm like a foot from the zigbee stick, I assume it suports it

ivory hound Apr 5, 2021, 1:30 PM

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dunno with deconz is always a wander

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what zigbee integration?

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 1:31 PM

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Also, the ligths I have supports pairing as it is such a light on the other side of the house, I have one just like it close to zigbee stick too

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deConz...

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and conbee

ivory hound Apr 5, 2021, 1:31 PM

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the only other thing that i could think of

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is very much wifi / bluetooth interference in the zone that they dont pair

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https://www.metageek.com/training/resources/zigbee-wifi-coexistence.html

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read

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 1:32 PM

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No bluetooth anywere near... WiFi AP is 5 meters away, same distance in the basement

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Works in basement, not upstairs

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I've read it, they are on different channels

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I'll try a extension for the conbee, perhaps that helps a bit

ivory hound Apr 5, 2021, 1:36 PM

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if that helps, it was interference 🙂

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 1:36 PM

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yupp

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Note to self: Please restart deconz after re-plugging the usb stick...

ancient furnace Apr 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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Hello. Have anyone successfully added an IKEA Fyrtur blind in deCONZ and still having the remote connected to the blind aswell?

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Using a conbee II

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 1:46 PM

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How would I reset the entire zigbee network? Just hit reset gateway in deconz and start pairing stuff?

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Well, doing it now... getting desperate

fair storm Apr 5, 2021, 2:18 PM

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gloomy pivot not really sure, but it could be... does the switch have an led on the buttons?

Maybe I should have called the "switches" "remote controls" instead. They are actually the IKEA 5-button controls. And no, they do not have a LED on the buttons, but they have a LED that lights up only when resetting the control and connecting it to the ZigBee network.

gloomy pivot Apr 5, 2021, 2:18 PM

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yeah, I'm not sure

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I'm sure someone else in here uses them though

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 2:58 PM

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anyone ever used these Lutron Aurora Dimmers?
https://www.lutron.com/en-US/products/pages/standalonecontrols/dimmers-switches/smartbulbdimmer/overview.aspx

I used these when I had Hue lights to connect them with - and they're quite nice
I love how I can retrofit them over existing light switches (for my current apartment, since I don't have my own house)

I've got them controlling light-groups for on/off through Node-Red right now - but I should be able to set them up for Dimmer to work too - I just haven't tracked that down yet

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if you do use them - do you ever find them somewhere cheap? it seems like ~$30/switch if about the lowest I've seen if you're lucky

pearl pasture Apr 5, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Hey everyone. I am running home assistant via Oraclebox on a Windows machine. For now I am playing around with Zigbee2mqtt with a cc2531. Just testing some stuff, first with some temperature sensors. Today two power monitor outlets were delivered. Whatever I'm trying, the LQI's are horrible. I have tried an USB extension cord, I added an antenna, I even relocated the physical machine and the range is still awful. I googled for answers, i het mostly issues on github, and I can't imagine it to be a software issue. I am getting a bit frustrated. Does anybody have some pointers to help me in any way?

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Have you checked your WiFi and Zigbee channels?

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 3:02 PM

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what kind of range/walls are you at?

pearl pasture Apr 5, 2021, 3:02 PM

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In the beginning I did, let me check them to be sure

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5 meters at most

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:02 PM

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CC2531 will get you about one room/wall without an antenna, and maybe two with

pearl pasture Apr 5, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Aha

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:03 PM

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And that goes downhill with stone/brick/water/metal in the way

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 3:03 PM

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yeah - I've seen similar crappiness with a CC2531 sometimes

pearl pasture Apr 5, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Many stone walls indeed 😅

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:03 PM

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With stone, expect to need a router in every room, or at least carefully placed to ensure that the walls are bypassed

pearl pasture Apr 5, 2021, 3:04 PM

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Is it better to go with another dongle/stick?

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:04 PM

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Oh yes

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 3:04 PM

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got a LOT of reliability boost from adding two mains-powered devices that did Routing to just live there and improve the mesh

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 5, 2021, 3:04 PM

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The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:04 PM

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On Z2M, go with anything CC2652 based

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 3:04 PM

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I'm looking out for a zzh! (Zig - zig ahh! - I think?)

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:05 PM

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See #zigbee-archived message

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 3:05 PM

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because it seems to be a MUCH higher performance item

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:05 PM

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UK: ZZH
US/Canada: Tube

pearl pasture Apr 5, 2021, 3:05 PM

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NL here 😄

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 3:05 PM

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I also saw this comparison
#zigbee-archived message

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:05 PM

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There's two in Europe, one in Italy (see above) and one from Slaesh...

pearl pasture Apr 5, 2021, 3:05 PM

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Thank you for the quick reply, I appreciate it

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:06 PM

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If you buy Sleash, do expect a total failure to communicate. The stick will just turn up one day

summer thicket Apr 5, 2021, 3:07 PM

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hopefully ⬆️

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 3:07 PM

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when I looked at Tinker's comparison link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MM6z-uBwQ-DkHnAA00rR2IauyC4c58JIHbatKahRdyw/view
I hadn't even thought about one that had external Antenna

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but that makes a LOT of sense

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:08 PM

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Yeah, my CC2531 with antenna gets about 80% of the range of my ZZH with identical antenna - which is pretty good

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 3:09 PM

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yeah - I have loads of Wifi Antennas around (work in IT) but the zzh! looks like such a good price.... I'd rather just pay them to do the thingy

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and it looks like the ZZH! from Electrollama/Tindie may be back in stock tomorrow
https://electrolama.com/lab-notes/march-2021-update/

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https://www.tindie.com/products/electrolama/zzh-cc2652r-multiprotocol-rf-stick/

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 3:22 PM

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I'm very happy with both of mine 😄

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Saturday 6th 2021
That'd be 6th of March

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 4:11 PM

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Had no issues adding 17 lights, but the last 5 just refuses. I'm about to loose it... Also one seems to be "half added" or something

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I have other working lights close to all of the 5 refusing to join, so shouldn't be interference or missing routers

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1 xiaomi sensor worked fine, 2 other fails. Also close to lights that joins fine

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Any ideas?

gloomy pivot Apr 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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runic hazel anyone ever used these Lutron Aurora Dimmers? https://www.lutron.com/en-US/prod...

I do

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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E27 Ikea lights 1000lm are failing, think at least 2 are those. 1 ikea RGB E27 also fails.

gloomy pivot Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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@runic hazel if you use z2m, I made a blueprint for them: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zigbee2mqtt-lutron-aurora-dimmer-control/287379

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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viral ermine Any ideas?

What coordinator are you using?

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 4:18 PM

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conbee with deconz

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:18 PM

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I'd ask the gurus over in the deCONZ discord then

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Updated firmware and deconz today to latest versions

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Alright, heading over there

gloomy pivot Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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runic hazel if you do use them - do you ever find them somewhere cheap? it seems like ~$30/s...

I bought mine back in october-ish for $40 a piece so $30 sounds like a deal lol

crystal sand Apr 5, 2021, 4:24 PM

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deCONZ devices and entities are not synced with Hass, erasing a device on deCONZ wont erase it on Hass, and new devices are not detected....

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 4:24 PM

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gloomy pivot I bought mine back in october-ish for $40 a piece so $30 sounds like a deal lol

yeah I got mine like 1-2 years ago for ~$50 each

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Is there any tool to easily roll out "firmware" updates to all the bees in my mesh?

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:45 PM

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That'd be done by your integration

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Zigbee2MQTT 🙂

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:45 PM

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/ota_updates.html 🤔

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:46 PM

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great thanks

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Their docs aren't big, unlike HA's, it's worth taking a read through

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:47 PM

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yea actually i had glanced at that before but never dared to tinker with the inject stuff but guess its time to learn 🙂

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so ye il check it out 👍

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:48 PM

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I've had no issues with my Ikea stuff. The Salus won't update, but that's a source firmware issue I think - possibly it's corrupt

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:49 PM

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im very satisfied to hear that 🙂 Im so glad i got back into t his after leaving it a little yanky for some months

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time to fix stuff with my new knowledge

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 4:49 PM

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It seems all the deConz gurus are absent 😦

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:49 PM

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i think thats another channel

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:49 PM

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They'll be along later, probably enjoying a long weekend

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Well, it's here, but also over on their own server

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Oddly though, people have lives shrug

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 4:50 PM

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I'm afraid the lights and all zigbee stuff will be broken and in the trash by then

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 4:50 PM

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patience is a virtue

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 4:50 PM

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Yeah, I know... just getting frustrated with having issues everytime I do something regarding zigbee

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 4:50 PM

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the lights won't expire because they sat on the table for another day friend

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Time to ditch the stick and deCONZ and come over to the dark side 😛

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:51 PM

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👆

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 4:51 PM

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lol, and what would the dark side be? ZHA? 🙂

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Zigbee2MQTT ... I have taste 🤣

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 4:52 PM

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I ran it for a few days... now I hate mqtt even more

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:52 PM

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The stick you have will work with ZHA or Z2M, it's just experimental in Z2M

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 4:52 PM

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I'm running ZHA + CC2531, but I Probably will aim to switch to Z2M + ZZH!

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:52 PM

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I finally ditched the CC2531 today partyParrot_2

pearl pasture Apr 5, 2021, 4:52 PM

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sour shadow On Z2M, go with anything CC2652 based

And now I have to wait for them to get back in stock 😅

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 4:52 PM

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my CC2531 is working pretty nicely now that I just added several Router devices

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:52 PM

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for zzh tinker?

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:52 PM

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I've been running a pair of meshes as I migrated, and today I got around to replacing the last device

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ZZH, yes

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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cool, Im about to do the same tomorrow maybe. (CC2531 > ZZH)

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seems to be smooth enough

pearl pasture Apr 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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I got my mind set on a ZZH too 😊

viral ermine Apr 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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I had everything up and running without any major issue, just the monthly loss of a few devices that a restart sorted for another month. That machine crashed so I'm starting over with the zigbee stuff and now I can't even get all the lights in

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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I took a while because I wanted to replace a few devices along the way

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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runic hazel and it looks like the ZZH! from Electrollama/Tindie may be back in stock tomorro...

@pearl pasture it looks like they're going to release a set for purchase tomorrow

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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That was last month

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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runic hazel https://www.tindie.com/products/electrolama/zzh-cc2652r-multiprotocol-rf-stick/

Shop here

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:53 PM

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This is April

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 4:54 PM

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oh dammit stupid months/time

pearl pasture Apr 5, 2021, 4:54 PM

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I left my e-mailaddress 😇

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Btw when I rebuild the network is it better to start with the lights closest to the ZZH transciever to build a good mesh? I have like 15 bulbs (routers) and maybe 20 sensors.

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Start at the coordinator and pair the routers spiraling out, then pair the end devices

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 4:54 PM

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when I re-paired mine after flashing my controller, first I started with my Router devices

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yep- that

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Or do what I did, and half ass it in a semi-random order and let the mesh settle it all later

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Ok thanks!

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 4:55 PM

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That may not have been a great approach, but hey 😄

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:55 PM

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I think i will retrieve a topology before/after for the keks

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as long as it works 🙂

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 4:55 PM

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some of my lights definitely didn't want to pair far away, so I ended up just bringing them to a light stand to sit next to the thingamajig to pair, them move them

pearl pasture Apr 5, 2021, 4:56 PM

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I need to be a little more active here 😏

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 4:56 PM

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by "far away" I mean ~20 ft

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Yea I have one of that Psycodata, hopefully it will "fix" when I rebuild

austere patio Apr 5, 2021, 5:06 PM

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fallow warren Btw when I rebuild the network is it better to start with the lights closest to ...

If you want to avoid re-building your network you can just migrate the network config from the CC2531 to the ZZH

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 5:07 PM

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I believe they have to be re-paired because my cc2531 is on zigbee 2.1

austere patio Apr 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

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Nah, that's just Z2M. They'll add support for migration eventually but in the meantime you can use zigpy-znp's command line tool to do it: https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md#network-backup-beta

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

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oh wow 😮 thank you so much

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I was about to risk my life to repair my living room bulbs because they no longer have a switch so I was going to put the ground wire in and out of the connector box 5 times

austere patio Apr 5, 2021, 5:13 PM

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PM me if you need help getting things running. I just need a few more testers before I consider it ready for release but the CC2531 w/ Z-Stack Home 1.2 migration has been successfully done a handful of times so it should work without issues (assuming Z2M doesn't get confused and re-form the network)

fallow warren Apr 5, 2021, 5:19 PM

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Thanks, will definitely note that down

gloomy pivot Apr 5, 2021, 6:04 PM

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just to throw in, since I went from husbzb-1 w/ zha to a zzh w/ z2m, I've been much happier with zigbee in general lol

runic hazel Apr 5, 2021, 6:09 PM

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any of you all use Voice assistants to bulk turn off lights or similar?

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I've got an annoying issue where I think when I ask Google Home to turn off several items, something might be getting Throttled
#voice-assistants-archived message

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Maybe worth asking in #voice-assistants-archived

true gale Apr 5, 2021, 6:38 PM

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To what extent is NOT changing default z2m encryption keys a problem? Does that give potential attacker control abilities?

austere patio Apr 5, 2021, 6:42 PM

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true gale To what extent is NOT changing default z2m encryption keys a problem? Does that ...

Yes

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All network traffic can be passively observed and any device on the network can be controlled if an attacker knows your network key

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 5, 2021, 6:44 PM

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@true gale posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mbRfN66YDX/

true gale Apr 5, 2021, 6:44 PM

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i can can change these to anything between 1 and 255

austere patio Apr 5, 2021, 6:44 PM

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I believe using GENERATE will cause Z2M to randomly create one, as it should be doing

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  # Setting network_key: GENERATE will make Zigbee2MQTT generate a new network key on next startup
  network_key: [1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 0, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 13]

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 5, 2021, 6:45 PM

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@true gale Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (text longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://paste.ubuntu.com/ (just not Pastebin).

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 6:46 PM

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  # Setting pan_id: GENERATE will make Zigbee2MQTT generate a new panID on next startup
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  # Setting network_key: GENERATE will make Zigbee2MQTT generate a new network key on next startup

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Probably those strings should be the default shrug

true gale Apr 5, 2021, 7:24 PM

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sour shadow ``` # Setting pan_id: GENERATE will make Zigbee2MQTT generate a new panID on n...

what is pan_id and do i need to Generate it too?

sour shadow Apr 5, 2021, 7:24 PM

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It's the network ID, that identifies the network

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You don't have to, but it's not a bad idea not to use the default

prime void Apr 5, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Hi is it possible to open the web interface without the border on the top and left?

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i want to add the zigbee2mqtt webinterface into a iframe of home assistant

prime void Apr 5, 2021, 8:30 PM

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i found it with the developer tools

prime void Apr 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

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Will i didn't.

Is there a way to integrate a addon to an existing lovelace dashboard site

dry fossil Apr 5, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Ask your question in one channel.

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 5, 2021, 9:30 PM

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@prime void Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

prime void Apr 5, 2021, 9:30 PM

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oki sorry

pulsar skiff Apr 5, 2021, 9:34 PM

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Hey everyone

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has anyone paired a Lidl gateway with Home Assistant?

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I don't see any integration

dry fossil Apr 5, 2021, 9:56 PM

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I don't think there's a specific integration for them. You'll need to use one of the three mentioned in the topic here.

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Check the docs to see which ones support it.

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Also... gateways suck. You're better off getting a USB stick and pairing all your other stuff through that.

thick zealot Apr 5, 2021, 9:58 PM

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Anyone know a method to get full message stack from a Sonoff SNZB-03 via deconz without sniffing?

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Backstory is that apparently these arent being driven correctly through deconz. Many complained that they would send a "occupancy: 0" after a minute no matter if there was continued motion in front of the sensor or not

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Another user was able to find out that there are multiple types of messages sent from the sensor, one of which has the behavior one would expect from a motion/occupancy sensor

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Sensor1 is the PIR, after a movement it sends ZoneStatusChange 1 and occupancy 1 :

14:47:15.001 MQT: tele/ZBBridge/Sensor1/SENSOR = {"ZbReceived":{"Sensor1":{"Device":"0x9D13","Name":"Sensor1","0500<00":"010000010000","ZoneStatusChange":1,"ZoneStatusChangeZone":1,"Occupancy":1,"Endpoint":1,"LinkQuality":55}}}
14:47:15.049 MQT: stat/ZBBridge/RESULT = {"ZbSend":"Done"}

After some short time (typ 1 min) the msg with occupancy : 0 arrives (!!! ZoneStatusChange is not send)

14:48:45.010 MQT: tele/ZBBridge/Sensor1/SENSOR = {"ZbReceived":{"Sensor1":{"Device":"0x9D13","Name":"Sensor1","Occupancy":0}}}

While I was still moving before the sensor the ZoneStatusChange stays on until there is no movement for 60 sec, then the msg ZoneStatusChange = 0 is send :

14:50:47.331 MQT: tele/ZBBridge/Sensor1/SENSOR = {"ZbReceived":{"Sensor1":{"Device":"0x9D13","Name":"Sensor1","0500<00":"000000010000","ZoneStatusChange":0,"ZoneStatusChangeZone":1,"Occupancy":0,"Endpoint":1,"LinkQuality":60}}}
14:50:47.431 MQT: stat/ZBBridge/RESULT = {"ZbSend":"Done"}```

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long story short, instead of the binary_sensor basing its activity off of the "occupancy" value, I want to see if there is a method to read the "ZoneStatusChange" value, which does not change until the sensor is idle for 60 secs

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 6:20 AM

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pulsar skiff has anyone paired a Lidl gateway with Home Assistant?

There is https://paulbanks.org/projects/lidl-zigbee/. They wrote an integration, but also cover how to replace the firmware so you can use it directly from ZHA (or Zigbee2MQTT)

inner bobcat Apr 6, 2021, 7:35 AM

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Using z2m and slaesh-coordinator. I just made a fresh install of HASSOS to move to an SSD (rpi4) and now I'm not getting any devices to pair. Do I have to reset the zigbee coordinator or something?

inner bobcat Apr 6, 2021, 8:01 AM

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Ok, changed channel and pan_id and it seems to work now 👍

silver stump Apr 6, 2021, 11:07 AM

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Hey there,
I think there was a link with zha compatible devices, what kind of attributes does it has. But I can't find it. Can you guys help me out?

shut pagoda Apr 6, 2021, 11:23 AM

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Maybe on the pinned messages?

silver stump Apr 6, 2021, 11:28 AM

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maybe 🙂

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thanks

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 6, 2021, 11:55 AM

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@solar orchid posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ymXbJqTv2M/

solar orchid Apr 6, 2021, 11:59 AM

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Haha I not a code but anyway

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 12:05 PM

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It's over 15 lines of text, which is all the bot cares about

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It'd have been a lot shorter if you didn't start a new line for every sentence, but used punctuation 😛

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Who here is a PhD in zigbee? Mostly z2m?.

I have hassio in the proxmox with conbee2. Connected to it I have 3 xiaomi temp sensors. 1 ikea motion sensor. And a led strip ... It turns out that last night in the ha the presence sensor was stuck in "detected" and the led strip stuck in "on"... No matter what I did, nothing resolved. Restarted the hassio. I force a restart via proxmox. I restarted the proxmox it self . . And I even returned add on to the previous version of both the z2m and the mosquito broker

I'm sure it was something with z2m because the thermometers were working despite the fact that at z2m it was showed that the signal quality was n / a. Well I was 2 hours in this problem and I did not resolve ... I unplugged the led strip and went to sleep ... Today in the morning came back to work ... I saw from the history that the presence sensor unlocked after 5 h

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First off, hassio hasn't been a thing for over a year.

violet dagger Apr 6, 2021, 12:08 PM

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sorry, no school is yet accredited for zigbee

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 12:09 PM

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Secondly, Conbee is experimental in Z2M for a reason

solar orchid Apr 6, 2021, 12:17 PM

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@sour shadow
I call hassio as a habit
But is the ha os (or whatever it called this days)
Sorry for long test I just used translation to make it easier that way

solar orchid Apr 6, 2021, 12:19 PM

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sour shadow Secondly, Conbee is experimental in Z2M for a reason

I did not know that,
This not working get me wondering why only this 2 device "got stuck"

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 6, 2021, 12:19 PM

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When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 12:20 PM

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Well, it's probably a problem with the mesh

solar orchid Apr 6, 2021, 12:20 PM

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Is allowed to post photo here?

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images.

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

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There's some good articles in the pinned messages, but:

Put the stick on a USB extension cable
Don't use a USB 3.0 port
Make sure that nothing is very close to a WiFi or Bluetooth devices
Make sure you're not overlapping a WiFi channel (see the pinned messages)

solar orchid Apr 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

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Quality signl is 98+

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Need to see item 4

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How i see pinned msg here?
I'm very neeb discord

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 12:23 PM

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Look for 📌 at the top of the window

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On mobile they may be elsewhere, maybe a swipe from a side

solar orchid Apr 6, 2021, 12:24 PM

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Found it need to swipe

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@sour shadow thanks

quick hare Apr 6, 2021, 12:35 PM

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Hello! 🙂 I was wondering what are the motion sensors that you can set the cool down via a cluster?

silent lintel Apr 6, 2021, 12:50 PM

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I changed the IP of my NUC, and now I am not seeing any of my devices in HA. They're all functioning from the Z2M frontend, and I'm not seeing any errors in the logs. The only thing I adjusted after changing the host's IP was this line in the Z2M config:

mqtt:
  base_topic: zigbee2mqtt
  server: 'mqtt://192.168.1.230:1883'

Is there any other reason changing the IP might cause a problem? Or some other setting I am overlooking that absolutely needs to be adjusted after?
Maybe I am missing something obvious in my before/after.Here is the before settings https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xS4FnHdXhg/, after https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DPMN8j3XxS/
Running latest-dev Z2M

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 1:00 PM

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You restarted Z2M after updating the broker?

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You checked that it's connected and publishing?

silent lintel Apr 6, 2021, 1:01 PM

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Yea i sure did restart. This is the correct way, right?
docker-compose restart zigbee2mqtt

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I got tons of stuff like this in my logs. I think that means its connected and publishing?
MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/black_router1', payload '{"description":"25526/0x00124B000BE95892","led":false,"linkquality":45,"rssi":0,"type":"PARENT"}'

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I just turned discovery: on in the MQTT integration in HA, not the Z2M one. It had been off

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That got the bulbs to come back!

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and everything else too!

thorny hinge Apr 6, 2021, 1:15 PM

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Hi All, i'm using tasmota on a Sonoff ZBBridge to link my zigbee devices with Home Assistant trough ZHA. Everything is working well except for my Tuya TRV's. They work as intended but I cannot receive the battery status. Is there any way to find that data and add this as an entity?

bronze apex Apr 6, 2021, 1:18 PM

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So I want to go down the zigbee route (if it's still worth while?) but not sure where to begin, should I get a zigbee stick or a zigbee hub or conbee? Basically my first idea on my list is one of them aqua cubes, but after that I want to expand to do sensors etc etc

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Do I need an mqtt broker?

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 1:18 PM

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Well, the conbee is a stick 😛

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 6, 2021, 1:18 PM

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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's CC2652P2 based coordinators and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 1:19 PM

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☝️ start by picking one of those three choices

bronze apex Apr 6, 2021, 1:19 PM

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Right, I'll give them a read and see what direction it takes me

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 1:20 PM

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IMO the simple choice is between ZHA (part of HA) or Z2M (not part of HA) depending on your preferences

bronze apex Apr 6, 2021, 1:21 PM

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Is z2m easy enough to intergrate with HA?

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 1:22 PM

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If you have MQTT it's almost idiot proof. If you don't it's still not hard, you just need to set up MQTT first.

bronze apex Apr 6, 2021, 1:22 PM

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I don't have mqtt setup, I might look into that first then see how to go about that

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I run home assistant in a docker container if that makes any difference to all this?

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 1:23 PM

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Doesn't matter

bronze apex Apr 6, 2021, 1:24 PM

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So I'd need to set up my own MQTT broker correct?

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 1:25 PM

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Yup - spin up Mosquitto

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https://medium.com/swlh/using-docker-compose-to-build-zigbee-infrastructure-336983a6ad67 is worth a look if you're not familiar with Mosquitto

bronze apex Apr 6, 2021, 1:35 PM

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Hmm looks like that guide walks me through basically everything I need? Do I have to use postgreSQL? Probably advised anyway is it?

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 1:40 PM

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You don't have to, no

pulsar skiff Apr 6, 2021, 1:41 PM

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dry fossil Also... gateways suck. You're better off getting a USB stick and pairing all you...

I think I'm going to get a zig a zig ah

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oh actually it's out of stock haha nvm

thorny hinge Apr 6, 2021, 1:46 PM

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thorny hinge Hi All, i'm using tasmota on a Sonoff ZBBridge to link my zigbee devices with Ho...

I just found the "battery-low-warning" in the ZHA-clusters. With this data I could make a sensor to display when to change the batteries. Any idea how I can make a sensor from cluster data?

bronze apex Apr 6, 2021, 1:50 PM

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sour shadow You don't have to, no

Thanks again I'll get reading and see what I can work out

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 1:50 PM

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No worries

pulsar skiff Apr 6, 2021, 1:52 PM

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Do zzh adapters often go out of stock?

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Should I just put myself on the waitlist and expect them to come into stock shortly or are they they type of thing to go out of stock and not be back for months and just find a different one?

shut pagoda Apr 6, 2021, 1:54 PM

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They do but also between maybe 1-2 weeks they become available for a short moment

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Sure, its a great stick, just be quick to act when you receive the email

pulsar skiff Apr 6, 2021, 1:56 PM

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okay thanks @shut pagoda 🙂

fallow warren Apr 6, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Just got a topology export of my zigbee map gotta share it 🙂 https://i.imgur.com/eIs1YdQ.png

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Blue are routers and the yellow are sensors

summer thicket Apr 6, 2021, 2:04 PM

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pulsar skiff okay thanks <@!796758350686584852> 🙂

Are you in the US?

shut pagoda Apr 6, 2021, 2:08 PM

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summer thicket Are you in the US?

I'm all over the place! 🙂

summer thicket Apr 6, 2021, 2:08 PM

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That was for @pulsar skiff 😆

pulsar skiff Apr 6, 2021, 2:08 PM

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oh sorry haha! I'm in Ireland

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so right beside them haha

fallow warren Apr 6, 2021, 2:11 PM

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I'm quite surprised to see my Coordinator (C2531) only talking to the tradfri signal repeater. Does zigbee make this decision since the antenna is stronger on that one? Will be interesting to see once I migrate to zzh

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 2:14 PM

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Yes, the devices handle it

fallow warren Apr 6, 2021, 2:14 PM

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very cool 🙂 thanks

shut pagoda Apr 6, 2021, 2:46 PM

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I have annoyingly one sensor that is not connected to anything on z2m map but works fine. At times its interesting to see where each communicate, there's no logic always but so far i haven't had a need to debug much anything, it just works.

limber geode Apr 6, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Hello --- can 2 coordinators (HUSBZB-1 and Conbee II) run on two separate RaspPi4's on the same network ? HUSBZB-1 is currently production using zigbee but I have staged the second RaspPi4 with the Conbee II and was wondering if I could use Deconz will that mean I would have to factory reset (Hue bulbs and Xiaomi devices) re-pair all the devices.

jolly narwhal Apr 6, 2021, 4:55 PM

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No

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One coordinator per network

wind phoenix Apr 6, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Has anyone tried the Itead USB 3.0 Zigbee dongle that's preloaded with firmware that works with Zigbee2mqtt?

fickle elbow Apr 6, 2021, 5:07 PM

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I have a Aqara smart EU plug and an Ikea gateway. On a raspberry I'm running home assistant. I managed to pair the plug to my Ikea gateway but it shows up as a lamp in HA. Is it possible to get the power consumption data from it somehow with my setup?

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Would appreciate any help. I got two of these for 5USD would be a shame if I couldn't use them.

austere patio Apr 6, 2021, 5:11 PM

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wind phoenix Has anyone tried the Itead USB 3.0 Zigbee dongle that's preloaded with firmware ...

Support for that specific dongle in Z2M is extremely recent so you'd have better results using it with ZHA

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Unless you're talking about the $4 CC2531 from Itead, which "works" but not very well due to hardware and firmware limitations

shut pagoda Apr 6, 2021, 5:16 PM

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fickle elbow I have a Aqara smart EU plug and an Ikea gateway. On a raspberry I'm running hom...

I don't have Ikea gateway but on some cases i've got the same result and i've used device_class: switch to make it a switch, probably doesn't help with the missing power metering but at least makes it not to be lamp anymore

wind phoenix Apr 6, 2021, 5:29 PM

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austere patio Support for that specific dongle in Z2M is extremely recent so you'd have better...

Hm, ok. Just bought it as it was said it worked with Z2M out of the box. Tried ZHA as well without luck.

austere patio Apr 6, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Which dongle? That sounds like the CC2531, which works with both

fickle elbow Apr 6, 2021, 5:43 PM

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shut pagoda I don't have Ikea gateway but on some cases i've got the same result and i've us...

Is that in the dev tools in HA?

shut pagoda Apr 6, 2021, 5:49 PM

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fickle elbow Is that in the dev tools in HA?

https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/customizing-devices/

fickle elbow Apr 6, 2021, 5:56 PM

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But is this that I'm trying to do even possible? Before I dig in too deep. I basically want to use the Ikea gateway instead of Aqara gateway and save the power consumption data on my raspberry.

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Zigbee is very new to me.

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 6:15 PM

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The problem is that Ikea gateway, and the integration you're using for it

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I'd open an issue with the developer of that custom component

amber gull Apr 6, 2021, 6:36 PM

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@wind phoenix There may be an issue with those sticks. They might possibly be frequency miss tuned

wind phoenix Apr 6, 2021, 6:37 PM

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austere patio Which dongle? That sounds like the CC2531, which works with both

It's this one https://www.itead.cc/zigbee-3-0-usb-dongle.html

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 6:37 PM

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/information/supported_adapters.html is the official list, ignore what manufacturer's claim

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Initial development started on experimental (pre-alpha stage)

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There's a link there to the issue about supporting it

wind phoenix Apr 6, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Ok, would I be better off using ZHA?

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Trying to move from ConBee (first gen) and Deconz

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Well, with that stick ZHA is the more proven option

amber gull Apr 6, 2021, 6:43 PM

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EZSP is much more mature in ZHA, yes -- but that stick doesn't work for many with either

wind phoenix Apr 6, 2021, 6:47 PM

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So I guess I should just put the Itead zigbee stick aside and use Conbee. Didn't manage to get it working with ZHA

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Well, if you want to use Z2M, use a CC2652 based stick

fickle elbow Apr 6, 2021, 7:00 PM

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So I can connect it to the Ikea gateway but I can only turn it on and off. Is there an API for Ikea gateway to extract the data I want? In that case I can just modify the integration module.

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 7:17 PM

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How are you connecting HA to the gateway?

fickle elbow Apr 6, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Gateway is connected with ethernet to a router. HA is on a raspberry connected to the router with Wifi

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Right... but which integration?

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/tradfri/?

fickle elbow Apr 6, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Ohh sorry, yes exactly that one

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 8:23 PM

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It's entirely possible that gateway has limited support for non Ikea devices

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Most manufacturer gateways only support their own brand, and maybe things that follow the standards exactly. Xiaomi are well known for not following the standards...

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The other option is to ditch the gateway and go direct with either ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT and your choice of supported USB stick

fickle elbow Apr 6, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Alright, great advice thank you. I'll order a USB with zigbee.

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 8:43 PM

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Just... ask here first so you don't buy a lemon

fickle elbow Apr 6, 2021, 8:45 PM

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Thanks man

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I was just thinking of ordering one of these cheap ones at first

https://www.styrahem.se/p/660

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ZigBee CC2531 USB

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 6, 2021, 8:47 PM

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The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

sour shadow Apr 6, 2021, 8:47 PM

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Fine to play with, but not for serious use

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Adapters based on the CC2530 or CC2531 chip are not powerful and not recommended for networks larger than 20 devices.

fickle elbow Apr 6, 2021, 8:49 PM

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I only have like 2 devices I want to connect with that one. Everything else goes via Ikea

jolly narwhal Apr 6, 2021, 8:52 PM

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You should ditch the IKEA gateway

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And go for something better tbh

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With zigbee2mqtt or zha if you choose

fickle elbow Apr 6, 2021, 8:55 PM

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What would be something better, one step up from the CC2530?

jolly narwhal Apr 6, 2021, 8:56 PM

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CC2652
CC1352p2

fickle elbow Apr 6, 2021, 8:57 PM

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thank you

merry siren Apr 6, 2021, 10:45 PM

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A power blink knocked my HA server offline last night. My ikea zigbee bulbs defaulted to on, much to the anoyance of my wife. Is there anyway to set the default to off if they lose connection to the server?

stuck eagle Apr 6, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Soooo I just got by conbee 2 today and all set up in zha. I included a couple door sensors and they show up as devices. But how do I get to actually know if it's open or not?

gloomy pivot Apr 7, 2021, 1:04 AM

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merry siren A power blink knocked my HA server offline last night. My ikea zigbee bulbs defa...

how are they integrated into HA?

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 2:15 AM

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Where can I find a link of supported devices in zha?

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 7, 2021, 2:15 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 2:27 AM

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stuck eagle Where can I find a link of supported devices in zha?

ZHA supports any standards-complaint device and has quirks to "fix" non-compliant devices

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 2:28 AM

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is there a place to search for this?

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 2:29 AM

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What device do you have? The device signature (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#reporting-issues) will contain enough info

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Model SMCZB02-DW

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by intertek?

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Is this some device from an existing home security system?

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 2:31 AM

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ooh found it: https://na.smc.com/product/door-window-sensor-smcdw02-z/

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Probably. came with the house..

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it says 802.15 ZigBee HA profile compatible 🤷‍♂️

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 2:33 AM

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If ZHA doesn't detect it then it's "Zigbee"-ish

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 2:34 AM

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hmm. Well ZHA detects it and adds it as a device. It just doesn't know the manufacturer or model

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 2:34 AM

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In that case you likely need to keep the sensor awake long enough for ZHA to query it

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When joining it to your network

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 2:34 AM

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and I'm brand new to zigbee: not sure how to tell if it's "on" or "off" and use it in an automation / lovelace

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yeah I notice ZHA it discovers it then undiscovers it constantly

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here's the log https://pastebin.com/aNdbXX8m

tribal rose Apr 7, 2021, 2:37 AM

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zigbee rgb par38 bulbs a thing?

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 2:38 AM

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it says The device is ready to use. Not sure how to use it or get a state from it....

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 2:40 AM

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stuck eagle here's the log https://pastebin.com/aNdbXX8m

Doesn't look like you're going to have a fun time with that sensor, it's probably intentionally designed to be non-compliant and will require someone who has the original security system to figure out how it joins and works: https://community.smartthings.com/t/smc-zigbee-devices-xfinity-home/2902/37

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 2:41 AM

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hmm, damn. I do have the security system control panel as well.

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 2:44 AM

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If you fully remove the sensor from ZHA and re-join it while continuously triggering it to ensure it's awake, the model and manufacturer info should show up

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That may help you find the specific device, as the device may be running customized firmware or something and the model and manufacturer info may better identify it

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 2:46 AM

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okay I'll give it a shot. ty

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is a ZID number helpful?

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Probably not

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The logs during joining would identify the device by its model+manufacturer and what it reports its capabilities are, which is all that ZHA has to work with

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 2:52 AM

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can I manually configure this somehow?

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 2:52 AM

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Remove the device from your network and re-join it

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 2:52 AM

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i've done that a couple times now...

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 2:54 AM

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The device didn't respond to ZHA requesting its manufacturer and model info, so it likely either went to sleep (meaning you have to trigger it continuously by clicking the tamper detect switch or slamming the door repeatedly), or just does not respond with that info, so the debug logs likely would not be of much use unless you also capture how your existing security system interfaces with it

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In any case, the debug logs of it freshly joining the network after having been factory reset would contain enough info

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 3:04 AM

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factory reset?

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you mean removed from HA?

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 3:07 AM

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You can only ask a device to leave the network after it has joined by "removing" it. Some comply. Others you have to reset after they are removed, which usually requires holding some button down.

stuck eagle Apr 7, 2021, 3:18 AM

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Hmm...still nothing. Should this absolutely work or could comcast be blocking it somehow?

Either way, is there a list of supported zha devices somewhere (perhaps with cost per item?)

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 3:21 AM

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Absolutely work? No. It probably won't because the device is weird and ZHA doesn't know how to talk to it, which may not be simple to fix. As for supported devices, https://zigbee.blakadder.com/zha.html will give you some supported devices, but these are just ones that people have confirmed work with ZHA and that were added to this specific collection.

jolly narwhal Apr 7, 2021, 5:01 AM

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@merry siren it isn't it they lose connection to the coordinator, if they lose power they go to full on

merry siren Apr 7, 2021, 7:22 AM

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@jolly narwhal yikes. That's a terrible feature! I assume there is no way around this? Like shellies have the "Power on Default Mode"

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 7:22 AM

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Does anybody know if the zzh stick has to be in BSL mode after flashing as well, to be properly recognized or is it only when you're going to flash its required?

warped oxide Apr 7, 2021, 7:35 AM

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merry siren <@457673488225009676> yikes. That's a terrible feature! I assume there is no way...

ikea bulbs support setting power on behaviour, to on, off, or previous

merry siren Apr 7, 2021, 7:36 AM

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@warped oxide mine are connected to a conbee II, where would I find this setting?

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 7:36 AM

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In the software you use - zha, Zigbee2MQTT, deCONZ

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The stick is largely irrelevant

merry siren Apr 7, 2021, 7:36 AM

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Deconz

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 7:36 AM

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fallow warren Does anybody know if the zzh stick has to be in BSL mode after flashing as well,...

Only when flashing

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 7, 2021, 7:37 AM

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deCONZ by dresden elektronik is a software that communicates with ConBee/RaspBee Zigbee gateways and exposes Zigbee devices that are connected to the gateway. Our #zigbee-archived channel is a good place to ask about using it with Home Assistant, but they also have their own Discord server.

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 7:37 AM

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You may get a faster response on their server (or may not)... I don't know deCONZ myself

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 7:37 AM

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Okay, i just found a znp uart comms test script so about to run that

merry siren Apr 7, 2021, 7:39 AM

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Thanks, I'll poke around in deconz

warped oxide Apr 7, 2021, 7:40 AM

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merry siren Thanks, I'll poke around in deconz

it's in the 0006 On/off cluster of the bulb
setting is 0x4003 "PowerOn OnOff"

merry siren Apr 7, 2021, 7:41 AM

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@warped oxide thank you! Will test after work today

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 8:54 AM

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Tinkerer, may I ask how your zzh stick looks in /dev/serial/by-id?

fervent storm Apr 7, 2021, 9:00 AM

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does anyone know if CC2531's can be configured with ZigBee 3.0 router (not coordinator) firmware?

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I have 3 sticks sitting here and I have some UPS powered USB ports dotted about and I was hoping I could use them as 3.0 for better device compatibility?

novel crown Apr 7, 2021, 9:01 AM

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Hey! Can somebody recommend me some decent zigbee TRVs for M30? I currently use the ones from Eurotronics and they are absolute garbage

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 9:05 AM

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fallow warren Tinkerer, may I ask how your zzh stick looks in /dev/serial/by-id?

/dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 9:18 AM

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OK thanks alot, same as me then. The test script also returns pass /ok so thats really bizarre. Zigbee2mqtt addon complaining that it cant access the serial device though.

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in the z2m config file, does is this part the same for you?

serial:
  port: /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0```

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 9:23 AM

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serial:
  port: /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0

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Not that I use the add-on though

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Thank you. I see, thats wonderful i think im getting closer to a solution

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RBPI is really the best thing for troubleshooting anything from network issues to this kind of stuff 😂

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 10:19 AM

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Tinkerer what physical device and OS do you use for z2m?

jolly narwhal Apr 7, 2021, 10:22 AM

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CC1352p2 + RPI3b+ 🤢 here

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With raspberrypi OS and docker

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 10:22 AM

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hey atx

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maybe u know

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I run HA OS and it seems to have trouble accessing the zigbee stick, it works on the rpi 3b+ though so maybe an OS issue

jolly narwhal Apr 7, 2021, 10:23 AM

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Yeah, I don't touch HAOS with a six foot pole, so no idea 😄

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 10:23 AM

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lol

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i can understand

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 10:26 AM

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I'm in a Proxmox VM (you'll see 🤢 from atx at that) on an old i5 laptop. The VM runs Debian

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 10:27 AM

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wow why did i not think of that

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lol

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thank you once again

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I think the issue is that the stick is not able to be read properly in the HA OS. So lets find out 🙂

jolly narwhal Apr 7, 2021, 10:29 AM

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#330990055533576204 will know probably

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I keep that channel muted

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😄

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 10:29 AM

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lol

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 11:06 AM

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Tinkerer did u have any problems what so ever connecting to the serial when doing that pass through in proxmox?

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 11:06 AM

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None

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 11:06 AM

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ok fck must be a vmware issue then

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 11:06 AM

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Ran the command line magic, job done

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 11:21 AM

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I finally found the source of my problems: https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/issues/220

jolly narwhal Apr 7, 2021, 11:44 AM

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Anyone who has ever paired a Tuya Zigbee rotary dimmer ?

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I can't get it to pair whatever I do

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The manual just mentions AP mode and app

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appears the manual is for the wifi version

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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/TS0601_dimmer.html This one

verbal shale Apr 7, 2021, 1:16 PM

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today got a hue starter kit 3(color + bridge) and i did only paide 80€ xD

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/771851468298911754/829335555292135424/20210407_134320.jpg?width=457&height=609

jolly narwhal Apr 7, 2021, 1:17 PM

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hue bridge

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but the price is good for three bulbs and a remote

shut pagoda Apr 7, 2021, 2:06 PM

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finally, slaesh stick just arrived, took ~35 days

fallow warren Apr 7, 2021, 2:13 PM

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sweet!

silent flower Apr 7, 2021, 2:24 PM

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I have NAS-AB02B0, when pairing, it immediately pairs properly, but it cannot be controlled and sends only link quality, other options (and temperatures) are inactive.

unborn compass Apr 7, 2021, 2:52 PM

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silent flower I have NAS-AB02B0, when pairing, it immediately pairs properly, but it cannot be...

What addon/integration are you using? Mine works fine with z2m

silent flower Apr 7, 2021, 3:36 PM

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@unborn compass z2m

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temperature and options did you have immediately after pairing? Mine is properly paired, but it still flashes and there is nothing to do with it.

unborn compass Apr 7, 2021, 3:38 PM

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Pretty much. I'm using it solely as a siren, but I remember having pretty much everything after pairing.

silent flower Apr 7, 2021, 3:39 PM

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https://imgur.com/Lqjndpk

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it is mine

unborn compass Apr 7, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Oh weird. Yeah, mine have all the fields populated, minus battery_low and power. I don't recall if temp/humidity showed immediately after pairing though. Is your alarm functional?

silent flower Apr 7, 2021, 3:44 PM

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It pairs properly (I see it immediately in the list) It make a sound when resetting. Otherwise see. picture.

unborn compass Apr 7, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Maybe just wait it out and see if the temp/humidity registers? Was just asking if the alarm was functional because that's one of the things that don't need to be "sensed"

silent flower Apr 7, 2021, 4:06 PM

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It just pairs, but it doesn't send anything and can't control it,

hazy kayak Apr 7, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Hi, are the xiaomi aqara T1 wall switches any good?

mighty river Apr 7, 2021, 5:26 PM

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hey, i cant open the Add-on-store. its loading all the time...and nothing happends

hazy kayak Apr 7, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Restart HA

mighty river Apr 7, 2021, 5:47 PM

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how?

jolly narwhal Apr 7, 2021, 5:52 PM

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@mighty river then ask in #330990055533576204 or #add-ons-archived

heavy latch Apr 7, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Just bought a Fyrtur blind 🙂 I need to pair the repeater first, to z2m, but it doesn't seem to want to pair. Any ideas?

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Pretty sure you don't need to pair the repeater

heavy latch Apr 7, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Hmm, that's what it says in the z2m documentation

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 6:07 PM

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However, Ikea stuff is known to be a faff to pair, and I found it took many attempts to get my repeaters paired

heavy latch Apr 7, 2021, 6:07 PM

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jesus, it's just paired, typical

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hehe

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Yeah, it took me about 10+ attempts on one

heavy latch Apr 7, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Ah well, that was attempt 6 or 7, so not too bad 🙂

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Do you have some of the blinds?

jolly narwhal Apr 7, 2021, 6:09 PM

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You guys and your pairing attempts

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Pair once, just work NM_PeepoTongue

sour shadow Apr 7, 2021, 6:43 PM

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I've got some Tuya Zigbee blind motors (for the corded blinds) in the drawer. I still need to buy the blinds for them 😄

heady forum Apr 7, 2021, 6:49 PM

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pair just once, and you have to support it for 18 years...

dusk thistle Apr 7, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Has anyone had the "CRC error in frame" message show up in their logs? I noticed my zigbee motion sensor wasn't triggering and i found over 400 entries like this.

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I'm using Home assistant in a VM using Proxmox. Zigbee USB adapter: HUSBZB-1

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 7:40 PM

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That means the serial connection to your radio is broken

dusk thistle Apr 7, 2021, 7:43 PM

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My zigbee sensors are working. Not sure if that makes a difference

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Removed all zigbee devices and still seeing the error. 😢

mellow geode Apr 7, 2021, 7:50 PM

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puddly, did you already check what EmberZNet SDK is used by the latest "test" IKEA repeater firmware? (http://fw.test.ota.homesmart.ikea.net/global/GW1.0/01.13.025/bin/10037603-3.1-TRADFRI-signal-repeater-2.3.070.ota.ota.signed)

dusk thistle Apr 7, 2021, 7:55 PM

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The same device is being used for zwave with no problem. As soon as I remove ZHA no errors. As soon as I reinstall the integration through the UI, even selecting the serial source manually, I get about 1 error a minute. But zigbee is still usable.

mellow geode Apr 7, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Another thing:
Is async_update for LightGroup only called on every startup? (https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/cdb151e8c9ffaccaa50e6b51a5496ebf31fb1cba/homeassistant/components/zha/light.py#L571)

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Almost every time I start Home Assistant, some ZHA groups (with only IKEA lights) are only "half-there "(the IKEA bulbs haven't crashed and are still responding to unicasts and also the group they are still in (although ZHA doesn't show them still being in the group))

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I have about 60 - 70 lights on my network. Only the IKEA devices show this behaviour but could it be related to the fact that these messages are sent too fast at startup? (And not in a regular interval of maybe all 5 hours + restore at startup?)

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I also remember (not sure if that's still the case but I would guess so) that the "mass polling" of lights at startup basically "clogs" my entire network for a couple of minutes. I'd just like them to restore from their last state (and then have them polled in the normal interval maybe) -> perhaps something like this can be implemented after https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/48423 is merged?

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 8:20 PM

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mellow geode puddly, did you already check what EmberZNet SDK is used by the latest "test" IK...

I can't check the newer images, unfortunately. They don't contain the same metadata

mellow geode Apr 7, 2021, 8:21 PM

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Ah, already tried following some "tutorial" but didn't find any dates

dusk thistle Apr 7, 2021, 9:28 PM

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austere patio That means the serial connection to your radio is broken

Any suggestions on maybe how to fix this? Ive also seen some "watchdog heartbeat timeout" messages come through randomly.

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 9:30 PM

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dusk thistle Any suggestions on maybe how to fix this? Ive also seen some "watchdog heartbeat...

Is your Zigbee stick on a USB extension cable and plugged into a non-3.0 port? Other than that I'm not sure what else to suggest. All of these issues are caused by frames getting corrupted between the radio and your computer, so they will be discarded and this will cause all sorts of problems.

dusk thistle Apr 7, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Hmm nope it's plugged in directly to the computer to a USB3.0 port. Proxmox has the device set to passthrough. I can try other ports and see.

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Yeah, I would start with an extension cable and plug it into a 2.0 port

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You've combined the three things that cause problems: USB 3.0, no extension cable, and USB passthrough 😆

dusk thistle Apr 7, 2021, 9:33 PM

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Sounds like i chose the perfect way to go about this as a first time HA user.

austere patio Apr 7, 2021, 9:33 PM

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The latter seems to only affect certain combinations of USB-serial chips and hypervisors so at least that isn't 100% broken

dusk thistle Apr 7, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Well I don't have a 2.0 port. Changed the proxmox setting to not use USB3 and still the same issue. I have a usb extension cable on the way so hopefully that fixes it.

dry fossil Apr 7, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Changed the proxmox setting to not use USB3

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The problem isn't the mode, it's the hardware.

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USB3 is known to interfere with EM devices.

dusk thistle Apr 7, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Could a usb 2.0 extension or hub fix the problem if it's connected to the 3.0 port?

dry fossil Apr 7, 2021, 10:30 PM

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Anything that shifts your stick away from the USB3 hardware will likely help.

golden sun Apr 8, 2021, 5:43 AM

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hi all, I've pretty new to this (just finished my RPi setup yesterday) and have started with ZHA and a zigbee usb stick. The first thing I'm trying to automate is my recently installed Sinope thermostat. I've got it all imported into HA, which worked fine. I can even manually control the temp in the dashboard. But when I go to make an automation, I don't have any choices for "Action" except to change the mode (off or heat). I'd like to be able to set the temperature from an automation. Does anyone know what piece I might be missing, or how I could go about making the action myself? I am a programmer by trade so willing to dig around if necessary, but a day's worth of searching hasn't helped much.

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I did find the zha-quirks repo which does have some Sinope quirks implemented, everything seems to say these devices are supported. So I feel like I'm missing something fundamental 😄

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 6:26 AM

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You're likely looking for the Service section there, and the climate services ... https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/climate

golden sun Apr 8, 2021, 6:29 AM

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that would be it, thank you

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"something fundamental" indeed

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Not everything is possible through devices - but everything is possible using the traditional methods

golden sun Apr 8, 2021, 6:32 AM

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just confirmed that works if I run the automation manually, time to dig more into triggers 🙂

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 6:35 AM

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If you get stuck the #automations-archived channel (and docs linked from the topic there) should be able to help

golden sun Apr 8, 2021, 6:57 AM

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thanks, I'll check it out

opaque locust Apr 8, 2021, 8:07 AM

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my zha network doesn't seem to be very selfhealing. Once one router goes down, it seems all end devices that previously used that router are lost untill that router is back online. Is that always the case? Shouldn't end devices be able to find new routes once they've lost contact?

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Is it possible to force zha to look for new routes once a device is not seen anymore?

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I don't know how much is done in the hardware layer and how much is due to the zha software. Is the routing just hardware, or can zha affect the routing choices?

golden sun Apr 8, 2021, 8:13 AM

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I'm pretty new to this, but I was under the impression that zigbee doesn't do device repeating? As in, all devices connect directly to the hub. So it makes sense to me that if that goes down, stuff breaks

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 8:14 AM

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Nope

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It is a mesh

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Most mains powered devices are routers

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A few battery powered devices are routers

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The network has one coordinator

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if the coordinator is down, you can't talk to the mesh

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but everyhing inside the mesh still talks

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and direct binds still will work

golden sun Apr 8, 2021, 8:17 AM

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ah interesting I thought that was just a zwave thing

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I have yet to get into all that with only one device, heh

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 8:19 AM

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See the pinned messages for some guides on Zigbee

opaque locust Apr 8, 2021, 8:22 AM

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jolly narwhal if the coordinator is down, you can't talk to the mesh

In my case it's not the coordinator that is down, just one router (a lamp). Yet the devices that was previously routed through that router is now lost. Is that not your experience?

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 8:23 AM

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I have had one power device (out of... 60+) fail in 2.5 years, and that one had no devices routed through it afaik

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so no idea

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Shrug

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 8:24 AM

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Most end devices will reconnect eventually - maybe an hour to 24 hours later

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Xiaomi probably won't

golden sun Apr 8, 2021, 8:25 AM

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hm, good to know about the usb3 interference. I'm using a pi 4 and have the stick in one of the 3.0 slots

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I'll move it over tomorrow

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how necessary is an extension cord with a setup like that?

opaque locust Apr 8, 2021, 8:26 AM

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Do you know if the routing is done on the hw side or is it zha?

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 8:30 AM

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Pretty sure that is handled in the zigbee protocol itself, devices will figure out the routing on their own

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for the most part

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 8:32 AM

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golden sun how necessary is an extension cord with a setup like that?

A Very Good Idea

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Also, if you can raise it above head height, you move it out of the way of the mobile signal blockers that infest your house (aka humans)

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 8:33 AM

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PETTY WATER BASED LIFEFORMS

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hmm

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 8:34 AM

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Sadly nothing can be done about the smaller lifeforms, known as cats, since they appear to have the uncanny ability to get anywhere they want

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 8:35 AM

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catBonk

opaque locust Apr 8, 2021, 8:41 AM

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jolly narwhal Pretty sure that is handled in the zigbee protocol itself, devices will figure o...

seems like the coordinator has somethng to do with it. I used to use deconz, but switched to zha. Sama hw but with deconz I constantly lost lamps

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 8:41 AM

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#add-ons-archived message

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 8:41 AM

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I have had no issues with z2m

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So can't speak for zha or deconz

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 8:42 AM

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API Key issue: team I am struggling to get the API key returned from deCONZ REST-API (trying to access ZBMini by REST). I am following the "getting Started" docs by the word (https://dresden-elektronik.github.io/deconz-rest-doc/getting_started/#acquire-an-api-key) but my Postman just gets me "Could not get any response" '... the response status was 0'. Anyone point me to the right direction, please? ... besides, is this the correct channel for q's like this?

opaque locust Apr 8, 2021, 8:43 AM

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mighty river API Key issue: team I am struggling to get the API key returned from deCONZ REST...

use the HA docs instead

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...or better yet use zha instead of deconz

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 8:44 AM

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opaque locust use the HA docs instead

... sorry, I don't get it... what is zha?

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 8, 2021, 8:44 AM

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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's CC2652P2 based coordinators and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 8:44 AM

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It's one of the three Zigbee integrations that HA supports, and is native to HA

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 8:46 AM

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sour shadow It's one of the three Zigbee integrations that HA supports, and is native to HA

... ah... OK... let me have a quick look ... where would I find this in HA? Do I need to add it, separately?

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 8:46 AM

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See the bot message?

opaque locust Apr 8, 2021, 8:46 AM

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integrations

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 8:46 AM

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It has nice little links 😉

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You would need to ditch the deCONZ add-on, and integration

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 8:47 AM

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sour shadow You would need to ditch the deCONZ add-on, and integration

.... let me check - hang on ...

obsidian sandalBOT Apr 8, 2021, 8:48 AM

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@tribal gull When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 8:52 AM

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Cool, I found that ZHA ! What port would I need to but in? I do have the RaspBee II plug in the pins - not the USB stick...

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 8:52 AM

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It'll likely be /dev/AMA<something> - check the hardware list in the Supervisor menu

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 8:53 AM

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sour shadow It'll likely be `/dev/AMA<something>` - check the hardware list in the Superviso...

... ah! OK... let me check ...

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 9:05 AM

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sour shadow It'll likely be `/dev/AMA<something>` - check the hardware list in the Superviso...

... it says "/dev/ttyAMA0" but when I put that in it says "Failed to Connect" - any ideas, please?

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...the correct entry is "/dev/ttyS0" ... it seemed to have worked so far ... 👍

abstract bough Apr 8, 2021, 10:14 AM

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hi all. I keep missing values from devices from within zigbee2mqtt with xiaomo switch and cube, with the following error. I've read about the legacy: false device configuration but applying this did not make any difference. Anyone has any ideas on what to do ?

homeassistant_1  | 2021-04-08 12:11:54 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.template] Template variable warning: 'dict object' has no attribute 'action_angle' when rendering '{{ value_json.action_angle }}'
homeassistant_1  | 2021-04-08 12:11:54 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.template] Template variable warning: 'dict object' has no attribute 'action_angle' when rendering '{{ value_json.action_angle }}'
homeassistant_1  | 2021-04-08 12:11:54 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.template] Template variable warning: 'dict object' has no attribute 'action_from_side' when rendering '{{ value_json.action_from_side }}'
homeassistant_1  | 2021-04-08 12:11:54 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.template] Template variable warning: 'dict object' has no attribute 'action_side' when rendering '{{ value_json.action_side }}'
homeassistant_1  | 2021-04-08 12:11:54 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.helpers.template] Template variable warning: 'dict object' has no attribute 'action_to_side' when rendering '{{ value_json.action_to_side }}'

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 10:19 AM

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I just changed changed some cheap CC2531 to zzh (CC2652R) [ZHA] but I'm not sure why it doesn't work. It can't detect Danfoss Ally at all and my Sonoff door sensor is detected but doesn't get updated with any states. Had to go back to the CC2531 to get the automations working :/ Any ideas what could be the problem here?

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 10:24 AM

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Did you repair?

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Or atleast try

fallow warren Apr 8, 2021, 10:24 AM

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If anyone here has been able to pass-through the ZZH on ESXi 6.7, please send me a message or let me know here.

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@mighty river Could you provide some details about your environment

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 10:25 AM

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Should work fine @fallow warren what happens when you change the settings of the VM?

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What os is the VM running?

fallow warren Apr 8, 2021, 10:27 AM

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Tried both HA OS and Deb 10, 99,9% sure its esxi 6.7 issue because it works fine on my pi

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 10:27 AM

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fallow warren If anyone here has been able to pass-through the ZZH on ESXi 6.7, please send me...

You mean like hardware and OS? RPi4 with Supervised. I have only those two devices on zigbee for the moment.

fallow warren Apr 8, 2021, 10:28 AM

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Ok, and how did you do the migration?

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 10:29 AM

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Well, what steps fail? Can you pass any usb device? Usually it is pebkac

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 10:32 AM

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Very easy: removed entities, removed integration, removed device, plugged new device add integration and then tried to add devices through the new one.

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Oh yeah, but at first (before removing them) new coordinator did find both devices but didn't get any states, so I did remove them and tried to add them again. Cleaner start you may say.

fallow warren Apr 8, 2021, 10:50 AM

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The OS can see the device atxbye but not access/read it seems to be a known issue on esxi 6.7 with the ch340 chip, so just curious if anyone here made it work

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@mighty river did you see anything of interest in the z2m log?

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 10:51 AM

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Really, I can't say I've tried with the ch340

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But I've passed through usb for a decade

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I have a bunch of esp devices with ch340, I can try one of those for lulz

fallow warren Apr 8, 2021, 10:52 AM

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Ye same, and the CC2531 works fine because it has chip inbuilt. But the CC2652 do not have and rely on external chip to do conversion apparently

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ye sure if u ever have the chance would be awesome 🙂 Anyway afk for a bit

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 10:54 AM

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My lab runs 7.0 but should be the same tbh, I'm doubting the usb subsystem has changed

fallow warren Apr 8, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Im actually very curious to wether its fixed in 7.0 and was hoping to test that if I could get my hands on it

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since my vcenter is also 6.7 I cant go 7.0 on esxi

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 11:13 AM

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Well, you can install esxi7 on almost any host

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So if you have a spare desktop or laptop

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With a supported nic

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 11:15 AM

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@fallow warren ZHA not Z2M 😛 I have log from trying to reconfigure Danfoss Ally: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QcQgk4Ypxn/ and some of the things from the start of the HA after plugin in CC2652R: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MZ9xpFY9Rq/

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 11:38 AM

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I wonder...can I have two controllers in one HA? So I could test more easily. I'd check door sensor as that one would be easier to debug.

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 11:43 AM

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Sure, just not two zha instances - two Z2M, or one zha and one Z2M you can do

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 11:52 AM

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Hm...I'll check that then. If it works this way at least I'll know that there was issue with ZHA and CC2652R on some level (can be user level but we'll see ;))

pearl pasture Apr 8, 2021, 12:06 PM

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ZZH stick is back in stock at Tindie.com

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FYI 😄

gritty frigate Apr 8, 2021, 12:07 PM

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Howdy 🙂

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Anyone aware of a zigbee relay that acts as only as a short circuit relay, e.g. no 110V or 220V passing through?

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I'm trying to find a way to zigbeefy a somfy shutter transmitter - that decice has 3 wires and basically I need to short circuit it in order to send the up/down signals

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It looks something like this https://www.euromatik.fr/10541-thickbox_default/emetteur-somfy-volet-roulant.jpg

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 12:12 PM

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so regular relay operation

gritty frigate Apr 8, 2021, 12:12 PM

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Yup

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Pretty much everything that's zigbee+relay brings up some high voltage power or light switch 😄

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Ideally something battery operated as this doesn't sound like in need of much power

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The alternative would be to use a ok zero or something like that and hack around with the gpio pins + control, but that would land in the diy channel, and likely not the most time sensitive solution lol

jolly narwhal Apr 8, 2021, 12:14 PM

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I see a lot of zigbee shutter \ curtain modules

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none with battery though

gritty frigate Apr 8, 2021, 12:15 PM

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I've seen one but it's ammm

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https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKYnsXd

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So not battery powered - not a hard req tho - but anything that needs an L+N wire seems to want to transmit that 220V I've got in my power sockets to my lil' transmitter - instead of acting as a relay

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Similar device would also allow for a "detached"/"headless" thermostat function for a regular gas heater - e.g that's a relay too (but with two wires), but again, having high power going in there is one bad day ahead

pulsar skiff Apr 8, 2021, 12:21 PM

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zzh came back in stock

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but Tindie have told me 4 times now that my zip code is invalid but still have charged my card -_-

summer thicket Apr 8, 2021, 12:22 PM

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abstract bough hi all. I keep missing values from devices from within zigbee2mqtt with xiaomo s...

https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/6987

abstract bough Apr 8, 2021, 12:23 PM

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Ow nice, thank you @wise saffron

river scarab Apr 8, 2021, 1:08 PM

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Just upgraded to 2021.4 and now ZHA is erroring, something about failing to talk to deconz, did I make a mistake upgrading? 🙂

gritty frigate Apr 8, 2021, 1:10 PM

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ZZH worked fine after the upgrade

river scarab Apr 8, 2021, 1:17 PM

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Deconz is running, using the app I can see devices, but I'm getting a python error from ZHA and non of my zigbee devices are working with HA. Which is a lot

gritty frigate Apr 8, 2021, 1:25 PM

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Interesting - I've seen my Speedtest and weather dropping off

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 1:25 PM

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ISTR Speedtest is known to be broken

tropic depot Apr 8, 2021, 1:32 PM

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You can’t run deconz and zha at the same time

gritty frigate Apr 8, 2021, 1:32 PM

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yeah that is likely - I've seen that it wasn't the point of upgrade when it started dropping off data. Met.no is weird tho - but offtopic for this channel

river scarab Apr 8, 2021, 1:34 PM

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You're right, disabling deconz fixed it, odd that it was working up till now with it running

novel crown Apr 8, 2021, 1:34 PM

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Does anyone know what the number on the edges on the ZHA Network Visualization mean? I assume it shows the link quality

mighty river Apr 8, 2021, 2:43 PM

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How would I discover the REST endpoint for the Sonoff ZB Mini (from within ZHA)? Simply doing "GET phoscon.de/discover" won't do (as I am now using the aforementioned ZHA)...

olive fulcrum Apr 8, 2021, 2:56 PM

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anyone using Philips Dimmer switches having problems after the 2021.4.0 update? Am i missing a change note that said i need to do a manual step to get these working again?

sour shadow Apr 8, 2021, 3:18 PM

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ZHA? deCONZ? Zigbee2MQTT? Something else?

olive fulcrum Apr 8, 2021, 3:18 PM

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ZHA, thanks for the clarifying question

molten linden Apr 8, 2021, 3:39 PM

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possibly this PR fixes? https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/837

gentle flint Apr 8, 2021, 4:03 PM

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gritty frigate Ideally something battery operated as this doesn't sound like in need of much po...

It is going to be some DIY anyway and unlikely battery powered. You could:

use an Xbee module with GPIO pin connected to a relay. I think Shulyaka was using something like that and committed support to zha quirks
find a smart plug that clicks, i.e. is using a relay, remove the high voltage part and replace the 3.3v switching regulator with an usb-to-3.3v dc-dc regulator
use ESPH home???

gentle flint Apr 8, 2021, 4:05 PM

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gritty frigate Ideally something battery operated as this doesn't sound like in need of much po...

Ok you could hire Tube to build something like that, but it is going to cost :D

olive fulcrum Apr 8, 2021, 4:21 PM

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molten linden possibly this PR fixes? <https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/837>

Thanks, looking into that now, it looks like that will be the answer, but for whatever reason my ZHA doesnt want to do custom quirks... so I am trying to figure out why/what version i am on that is different

mellow geode Apr 8, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Is custom_quirks_path not yet working on 2021.4.0 for ZHA?

olive fulcrum Apr 8, 2021, 4:36 PM

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@molten linden Yep, that PR did it... i couldnt use the custom_quirks directory, so i manually loaded the quirk into the /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zhaquirks/philips/ directory, removed the pycache dir, then restarted HA... MAGIC, things work again

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doesnt seem like it @mellow geode

mellow geode Apr 8, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Ah, thanks for the report then

olive fulcrum Apr 8, 2021, 4:37 PM

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I had posted a topic in the forum, i will also update there, for anyone else that is looking 🙂

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Thanks all!

mellow geode Apr 8, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Nice, thanks!