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hazy kayak
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I don't know if i'm allowed to type the whole name here 🤣

austere patio
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No, you just plug it in and flash the firmware

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It's plug and play with ZHA and Z2M

hazy kayak
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And I probably just need one?

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The ikea hub works so I assume something like CC2652R would easily do this right?

austere patio
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Yeah

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You can't have two coordinators anyways

hazy kayak
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Thanks guys!

pallid swan
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can someone help me with Zigbee2Mqtt? the routing map and LQI make no sense

sour shadow
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What's the question?

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The LQI is the last hop

pallid swan
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Can I create a static routing or how do I solve the problem that all end devices run over one router although another router is closer?

tropic depot
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no

hazy kayak
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I saw that Intead released a 7 dollar zigbee adapter, anyone knows if it's any good?

sour shadow
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The new Zigbee 3.0 one?

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Early days, but it shouldn't be terrible

hazy kayak
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Yes the 3.0 one

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You think it will work with the IKEA bulbs?

sour shadow
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It's the integration that matters

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Does your integration support the bulbs?
Does your integration support that stick?

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If yes to both then you're fine

hazy kayak
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I think i'm going with the lama stick when it's back in stock.

stone halo
austere patio
stone halo
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currently got a vm on linux

austere patio
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No clue, I run bare metal. What do you mean by "best"? I doubt virtualization would significantly interfere with interfacing with the dongle speed-wise.

stone halo
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like a recommended way of installing home assistant

swift hare
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I have the (Lonsonho QS-Zigbee-D02-TRIAC-2C-LN) dimmer module and Aqara 2 Gang Wall Switch with neutral can both of this be use together? the idea is to have a Smart Switch with a Dimmer module to dim the lights. I have tried them but couldn't get the Lonsonho Dimmer module to connect to my zigbee2mqtt. Does anyone tried this before?

frail widget
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hello, what is best wondow shutter (cover) switch. I tried the tuya one from loratap but could not have it work all well.

jolly narwhal
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@stone halo #449717345808547842 will always be my advice for medium advanced people who want to retain control and minimum layers of abstaction

untold slate
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PayPal gave me a refund! Yay!

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Ordered that German stick and heard nothing for way too long, so I submitted a buyer protection request and a few days later they approved it. They or the seller, I don’t know.

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So I’ll go and order the zzh stick when it’s back in stock.

summer thicket
cerulean thorn
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I have several of both of the sticks. They are as valuable as toilet paper was last year it seems like

daring dawn
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Good news. The stick has arrived and I have not (yet) been taxed 🙂 Used the DPD delivery option - it indeed is quite fast and reliable.

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For the stick itself - I'm very happy! It has a better coverage and all devices in z2m are discovered. Better than ZHA and Phoscon - at least for now. For some entities, also some more sensors included. Only fiddling around a bit with renaming, but OK.

grizzled arrow
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For me also, I upgraded my cc2531 today. All good. Thanks Slaeh, even without communication; 😉

untold slate
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I’m on the waitlist. Hopefully soon! 🙂

jolly narwhal
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Z2M + TI crew cooldoge

hollow mist
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Via ZHA, i was able to add a PGC410 SmartThings Presence tag, but HA only assigned it a Device, but no Entity... is there something I need to do to generate an entity for this device?

lethal pollen
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Hello! I installed Conbee 2 on a Raspberry Pi 4 which runs my Home Assistant, using the Zigbee Home Automation integration, which prompted me for something like “ usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II”

It worked very well. I successfully paired a number of Zigbee devices with the Conbee 2. Problems arose when trying to pair Xiaomi Aqara button switch. I tried using dConz and Phoscon, during which I seem to have lost connection with the Conbee. When I try to run the Zigbee Home Automation integration now, I am now offered a serial connection which does not work – see screenshot. When I run Phoscan, I get Firmware Not connected. I have located the Conbee approximately 1 m from the Raspberry Pi and other devices. I have reset many times and tried the usual restatr steps but to no avail.

Can I completely / factory reset the Conbee and start from the beginning or do I need a new device? Any other suggestions as to how I can reconnect with the Conbee?
Any help would be appreciated.

gentle flint
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You can only have one: either phoscon or zha integration.

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Can't have both installed at the same time

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Either phoscon add-on or zha integration. Remove the other one

sour shadow
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Well, you can have both, but you need two sticks - one for each

kind zodiac
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Is there a way to get HG06323 remote to work with zha?

lethal pollen
peak juniper
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Does Zigbee2Mqtt (or any other Zigbee controller hw/sw) work with Hue sensors in a disconnected env? I mean, if the hub/controller crashes, often Zigbee lights and switches still work p2p.. can Hue motion sensors also work p2p?

sour shadow
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Doing what?

jolly narwhal
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P2P ?

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Binding?

sour shadow
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Would sound like it, but ...

stuck geyser
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Hello, I got 3 ewelink SA-003 plugs working nicely with conbee II yesterday, ran fine all day. Today they are all disconnected, nothing has moved, I'd tried restarting etc. Any suggestions on how to debug / re-connect, please? https://i.imgur.com/qTRBcno.png

peak juniper
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yeah I mean peer2peer .. binding to a group if that's possible.. so if I walk into a room, multiple lights turn on, regardless of the zigbee hub/controller being online. I get we need it for Hass and configuration but will it work as a fallback to turn on/off lights based on motion?

sour shadow
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Well, it wouldn't be a fallback, it's be automatic

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Lights would turn on with motion and then off when there's no motion, regardless

peak juniper
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Exactly.. currently I'm using a couple of Aqara motion sensors but in the new home, it'll be Hue based... so I can bind Hue motion sensor to a zigbee group?

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Using Zigbee2Mqtt/Hass that is

sour shadow
peak juniper
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I also have a Hue hub v2 but trying to move away from that

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I messed with Z2M binding a while ago .. didn't have the best luck with it

sour shadow
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I can't say HA being "down" is normal though

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Mine does down for upgrades, or if I screw something up in style

peak juniper
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Exactly.. I want my home automation to kinda-still work even when I'm f*cking up

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Basic stuff like lights, switches and motion

sour shadow
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Well, smart switches solve the lights problem 😉

peak juniper
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Yeah I'm still on the fence about how I will do light.. smart switch/dimmer + dumb transformer + lights .. or .. smart switch, Hue lights directly on mains

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We're getting a new ceiling so I'd rather not put a power transformer in it where it gets plastered in

vital briar
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hi. anyone here using Aqara Opple switches with deconz and conbee stick?

peak juniper
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and I'm still unsure if smart switches (stuff like shellys or whatever) even fit in my new home's electrical boxes

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EU style boxes are rather small

sour shadow
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Designed for EU style boxes 😉

peak juniper
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Exactly, just like a Shelly or a few others .. but it's the depth mostly

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Older homes have rather shallow boxes.. so as we're redoing the walls, we'd have to rip out the boxes and install deeper ones

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The contractor is going to charge me an arm and a leg for that for sure haha

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So I'm considering to wiring everything with 230V mains and have the light itself be smart

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And yes I know, Hue is overpriced

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But so are contractors haha

sour shadow
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Well, you also need to think about the cost of all those bulbs, and their replacement costs every X years, vs the costs of doing it right, once 😛

peak juniper
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Yeah but the individual bulbs also allows for stuff like colour temp etc

stuck geyser
sour shadow
stone halo
gentle flint
gentle flint
peak juniper
heavy latch
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anyone know anything about zigpy-znp? I want to backup my TI CC1352P2

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zigpy-znp tools installed on another machine but cant seem to run it

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TBH it's probably a lot easier and faster to just perform firmware update and re-add every single zigbee device than mess about with zigpy-znp, which probably wont work anyway lol

jolly narwhal
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@stone halo add-ons are just docker containers... So yes, they do, you just don't have a point and click interface and are forced to run the versions of software devs want you to run, and forced to upgrade, so it's even better

stone halo
jolly narwhal
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We don't bite

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Only @sour shadow does, on Wednesdays

sour shadow
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Well.... only alternate Wednesdays, or any day ending in y

stone halo
stone halo
jolly narwhal
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Bakemono

stone halo
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also i managed to fix the hue emulator to run perfectly

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makes the play bars awesome

heavy latch
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Aqara devices, what is the benefit of setting legacy: false?

heavy latch
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Also, anyone know if the aqara D1 wireless switches are capable of binding to groups/lights/switches?

heavy latch
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Basically I want a two-button switch which will be able to bind, to save the 1-2 second delay from pressing button to light on/off

radiant venture
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What’s the best zigbee to USB adapter?

burnt pecan
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I'm trying to remove an Hue bulb that is still attached to my v1 Hub. Moving it the deconz... I can use the Hue API to put it into touchlink mode, the bulb blinks but remains attached to the Hue Hub? Shouldn't it be disconnected from the Hue hub?

hollow turret
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Has anyone had any luck in using sensors via a Sonoff Zigbee Bridge while the bridge is set as template 75 (or what ever it's called 🙂 )

forest folio
fresh citrus
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Hi! Woke up to a bunch of sensors and bulbs being unavailable. Using a ConBee II with ZHA. Tried restarting HA but no luck. Where should i start?

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Se this in the log [zigpy_deconz.zigbee.application] Unexpected transmit confirm for request id 113, Status: TXStatus.NWK_ROUTE_DISCOVERY_FAILED I dont even use Deconz anymore.

fresh citrus
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Also [zigpy_deconz.zigbee.application] No watchdog response

fresh citrus
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I have some bulbs that are online but wont work anyway. Sigh.

frail oracle
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Zigpy_Deconz is the library ZHA uses to communicate with the Conbee

fresh citrus
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Understandable. Tried repluggin the stick, rebooting the host. Same result.

frail oracle
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Iirc you had the same issue with deCONZ

fresh citrus
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Yes, that's why i migrated to ZHA.

frail oracle
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But your issues wouldn't be solved

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[7:00 PM] DanielGr: 0xD0 and 0xE9 again and half the stuff works. Great.

fresh citrus
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And it worked perfectly until today.

frail oracle
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Yes, because the problem hasn't been solved

fresh citrus
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I know.

frail oracle
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So i am not sure why you switched, but either way it is a issue due to the network you have.

fresh citrus
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I switched because i wanted to get rid of Deconz and have it in HA instead and maybe that would solve my problem. Ofc i couldn't know that before i switched. But now i know it didn't help.

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So how do i solve it?

frail oracle
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I was midst debugging with you

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So i don't know 🤷‍♂️

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Then you left, so i really have no clue what's going on.

fresh citrus
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I "solved" it then by moving to ZHA instead. And it worked until now. So something is acting up again.

frail oracle
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If the problem is in the network, nothing is solved by software.

fresh citrus
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I know.

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But it's weird that it just overnight crashes. I reboot HA every night so it's probably after the reboot it crashed.

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But i wont just try to replace the Conbee stick with a new one in case that fixes is. I need to find the root cause.

frail oracle
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That won't fix it either.

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I don't know how to debug now, as your using ZHA

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But in general, try to figre out the connections between those devices that occured with the error code

fresh citrus
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Hopefully someone else knows. Thanks for your help!

frail oracle
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And then see what those locations are in your house

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Could be bulbs that are in a metal frame

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Or just a different brand?

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I dont know, but try to think in that direction 🙂

fresh citrus
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Yeah i'll see what i can find. Thanks! Maybe i'll have to move away from Zigbee on certain devices.

sour shadow
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Rebooting HA nightly is unlikely to be helping

fresh citrus
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That's just automated with all my dockers and not a troubleshooting step 🙂

frail oracle
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Zigbee networks rebooting could result in this stuff.

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they don't like this

fresh citrus
fresh citrus
frail oracle
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The addon doesn't reboot with it (if using deCONZ)

sour shadow
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Reboot != restart

fresh citrus
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I used Deconz in a separate docker before so no. But now i use ZHA.

sour shadow
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That's like mixing up sleeping and being dead

fresh citrus
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Sure. So any idea whats the issue is?

sour shadow
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Odds are, as mentioned, something's going wrong in your mesh itself

fresh citrus
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Yeah. Let's say a bulb is acting up. If i cut the power to it would the network "repair" itself?

sour shadow
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Maybe

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I suspect you're a lot better off with a forum post where you can lay out all the devices you have, what their firmware is (where known), the diagrams of the mesh (at a resolution people can read the details), and a history of all the problems and everything you've done

fresh citrus
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Alright. Thanks. Is there a better visualization than the config/zha/visualization? I cant seem to be able to move stuff around.

sour shadow
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I don't use ZHA shrug

fresh citrus
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Yeah i need something more reliable than this...

sour shadow
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Well, the reliability is down to either your devices (some brands are known to be poorly behaved/unstable/problematic) or your mesh layout

fresh citrus
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Probably my mesh layout then because i haven't done anything about it. There's powered devices everywhere so then should mesh just fine?

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Or how should i aim to improve the mesh layout?

sour shadow
frail oracle
hollow ice
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Hello 👋
Anyone here using Sonoff SNZB-03 motion sensor?

This sensor is spamming me with status every minute, after a few days it become very hard to load status card as there are too many records...
What am I doing wrong?

ivory hound
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on zigbee2mqtt i keep seeing this for bulbs in my home:
error Failed to ping 'Living Ceiling Bulb 1'
error Failed to read state of 'Living Ceiling Bulb 1' after reconnect
and so on

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anyone know what is all about?

sour shadow
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Usually that's a sign that it's either poorly connected to the mesh, or that it's just a piece of junk

ivory hound
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they work good on ZHA so my guess is poorly connected

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even tho they work ok

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something is up with the network maybe

gentle flint
fresh citrus
verbal shale
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it finally arrive

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now it sais that comes with a dummy firmware, but I remember to select the option for mqtt firmware 😮

warm estuary
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I just moved from using an SD card to a USB drive. I took a snapshot before and restored the snapshot. Everything boots and looks fine except the ZHA integration. Couldn't start application for zigpy in the logs 🤔
Any ideas on how to troubleshoot?

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2021-03-24 13:50:45 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.config_entries] Error setting up entry ConBee II, s/n: DE2198859 - dresden elektronik ingenieurtechnik GmbH for zha
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/config_entries.py", line 248, in async_setup
result = await component.async_setup_entry(hass, self) # type: ignore
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/__init__.py", line 100, in async_setup_entry
await zha_gateway.async_initialize()
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 157, in async_initialize
self.application_controller = await app_controller_cls.new(
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zigpy/application.py", line 69, in new
await app.startup(auto_form)
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zigpy_deconz/zigbee/application.py", line 80, in startup
await self.form_network()
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zigpy_deconz/zigbee/application.py", line 151, in form_network
raise Exception("Could not form network.")
Exception: Could not form network.
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Could the device path have changed or something (I haven't moved the conbee adapter to another USB port)?

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Can I check the current device path that is set?

warm estuary
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I moved the Conbee stick to another USB port (USB 2) and now it connects to a few of my Aqara temp devices...

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But not lights or switches.

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I shouldn't have to remove and add them all again, right?

daring dawn
warm estuary
faint whale
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Hi all, what is the easiest way to update Osram / Ledvance GU5.3 spot lamp firmware without their gateway?

ivory hound
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both zigbee2mqtt and ZHA support firmware update

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for that device

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and by default they do it itself you dont need to do anything

faint whale
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I have another issue currently that relates to this. I have a NAS computer that is running Home Assistant and has a CC2531 usb stick plugged in. The lamps are currently paired to my Philips Hue gateway.

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The range for pairing is not long enough to pair them when they are in their proper place in the downstairs bathroom

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So I would need to get them powered on near / next to the NAS computer for pairing

ivory hound
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@faint whale let me stop you right there

faint whale
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Or find some other solution. The Hue gateway does not support firmware updates for these spot lights

ivory hound
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do not do that

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if you do that you will have a network that wont work proper

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what you can do is add more routers

faint whale
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Please enlighten me 🙂

ivory hound
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make the network big enough so it can work everywhere

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routers in zigbee are usually devices powered by power network (not devices with batterys)

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as example your osram bulb is a router

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if you pair a device around coordinator and move it to the end of your house and coordinator cant reach it ... well you can imagine what happens

sour shadow
mighty river
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Hey everyone,
my deconz integration all of sudden stopped working. I can't reach the phoscon UI anymore and I don't know what to do. When opening the web UI for the deconz plugin I can still access the Virtual deconz UI however when I want to go to the phoscon UI it says that "the website under http://myip:8123/api/hassio_ingress/oIWAUi3-h2GaDnk3kcaUD7SFPLmJqhRkVqSXzqW5TTk/pwa/index.html is having problems or it may have been permanently moved to a new web address".
#zigbee-archived #330944238910963714

I updated both the deconz integration to version 6.8.0 and home assistant core to core-2021.3.4. I am running home assistant supervised on my debian 10 server.

faint whale
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@ivory hound @sour shadow Thank you very much!

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Another question: Is there some way to visualize my current zigbee network in Home Assistant?

ivory hound
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depends what do you use

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zha? zigbee2mqtt, deconz?

faint whale
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Setting up zigbee2mqtt at the moment

sour shadow
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Then there's a native UI that has a map tab

ivory hound
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then no, only in native ui of z2mqtt

faint whale
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Thanks again 🙂

ivory hound
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turns out here is an event based trigger in zigbee2mqtt like zha has

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but you have to use mqtt autodiscovery

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and i use the old way, just my luck 🙂

violet dagger
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why wouldnt you use it?

ivory hound
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yah i said i name my devices in files more control over them etc

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stupid decision

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i'll enable home assistant auto discovery

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but not now coz i have to rename all stuff

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pffa

warm estuary
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Is it possible to pair multiple devices at the same time? Like, if I have two zigbee bulbs in the same...light fixture. Can I pair them both at the same time?

faint whale
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Should other gateways from different manufacturers show up in the ZHA network map?

sour shadow
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No

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Those other gateways are on different meshes

faint whale
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Got it

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I seem to have an issue pairing a Philips Hue dimmer switch with ZHA. It finds a device with the status stuck at "Starting Interview"

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Is this something that could be solved by updating the firmware on the CC2531?

ivory hound
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@warm estuary yes

mellow geode
# forest folio Hey... i would like to use new hue dimmer v2. <@!773609067264344105> just merge...

https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/#testing-quirks-in-development-in-docker-based-install <- Tutorial
I think there were some changes though (Aqara battery) that require either an HA update or a zigpy update.
That's why I would download the entire repo but only delete the current philips folder and copy over the new one (https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/tree/dev/zhaquirks/philips)

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(If you mean Hass.io -> HassOS (or also Home Assistant Supervised)), then the process should basically be the following:

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Copy the new philips folder in a folder called temp_quirk (in the config folder). (So there's a folder config -> folder temp_quirk -> folder philips -> then all the files)

Install Portainer, unhide the homeassistant container(s) (if they are hidden), open a terminal for the homeassistant container.
cd /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/zhaquirks/
rm -rf __pycache__/
rm -rf philips/
cp -a /config/temp_quirk/philips .
Restart Home Assistant

old cedar
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hey @tacit steppe have you come any further on this? I am also currently stuck on these events…

tacit steppe
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this was regarding identifying subtype events or something right @old cedar ? I'm reading back through the thread now

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ok so for those specific devices they were kinda f'ed. They Osram/Lightify discontinued something regarding them and they missed their last firmware update to better send out zigbee states. I ended up ditching them for Hue bulbs/switches and never really revisited it

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but based on what Tinkerer was saying, you should be able to use ZHA and log out any/all events being sent out from a normal zigbee device and then use the conditionals stuff that was mentioned a few messages up from what you replied to

old cedar
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I came from deConz and its Websocket, there it worked, but I wanted it in ZHA with HomeAssistant for cohesion

scarlet crater
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ZHA and ConBee II issue - I removed some of the LightLink groups by accident . Now it’s a total mess, lights turn on and off randomly when pressing IKEA remotes. Can I get the LightLink groups back? And what are they used for?

old cedar
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So I currently try listening to zha_event like so, but nothing happens on button press.

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(ah, too bad, no pics allowed it seems)

verbal shale
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can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

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C:\cc2538-bsl-master>python3 cc2538-bsl.py -p COM5 -evw CC2652R
Opening port COM5, baud 500000
Reading data from CC2652R
Cannot auto-detect firmware filetype: Assuming .bin
Connecting to target...
CC1350 PG2.0 (7x7mm): 352KB Flash, 20KB SRAM, CCFG.BL_CONFIG at 0x00057FD8
Primary IEEE Address: 00:12:4B:00:22:81:A8:5C
Performing mass erase
Erasing all main bank flash sectors
Erase done
Writing 396204 bytes starting at address 0x00000000
Target returned: 0x43, Invalid address
Target returned: 0x43, Invalid address
Target returned: 0x43, Invalid address
Target returned: 0x43, Invalid address

austere patio
verbal shale
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its done

austere patio
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So it worked in the end and verified?

mellow geode
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Confirmed that replugging the stick works. I tried turning on "light.garten_calla_1" (00:17:88:01:06:86:fa:07 / 0x5e16) multiple times and reading an attribute on the Basic cluster. (Here's one failed attempt on turning on the light and (I think) also reading an attribute: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NvSw2zjTPb/)

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(This is the issue where older ZLL Hue lights (no Silabs yet) don't respond to unicast requests for multiple hours) (but they still respond to multicast messages: ZHA groups work just fine)

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I also "confirmed" the issue on LCF002, LCS001, LLC020 (and I think) LCT010 too.

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This never happens on any newer (Silabs, ZHA profile and "Bluetooth compatible") Hue light.

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Since this happens with TI coordinators, I thought this would also happen with zigbee2mqtt (if it's not related to the radio library)

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But I didn't find any GitHub issues yet (not sure what to search for exactly though lol)

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I can't recall having this issue with an Elelabs stick (and bellows) but I'm not sure exactly. I did re-pair some of the lights after network migration but that doesn't seem to make any differences.

austere patio
raven falcon
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Hi everyone, do i need to use mqtt to control groups in zigbee2mqtt or is their a way to see the group as device or entity?

warm estuary
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Hi! Do you usually pair your remotes directly to the bulbs (binding?) or always use HA automations? On the one hand I guess the automation gives more freedom but the binding works even if HA would be down 🤔

raven falcon
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i always use HA automations for this task.

tepid cliff
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How can I listen to zha events, like we do deconz?

molten linden
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zha_event

tepid cliff
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Doesn't work. But I found the log.

I'm getting a lot of message failures for my light groups.

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It's a group of four lights where at least three of them are really hit or miss with on/off commands

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All IKEA.

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Latest firmware.

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Is Zigbee bad at groups? My Z-wave handles it beautifully.

mellow geode
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Might be better to use ZHA groups (rather than Home Assistant's light groups)

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(Only "one" message is sent to turn the lights (rather than 4))

raven falcon
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i managed to control my bulbs with the bind option in z2m. I didn't know this option exists 😃

wild juniper
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Hi good people. I have a question. Moving away from the IKEA Tradfri gateway, I've installed a Conbee II. Make this short: When using deconz, is there any way to poll/ping the tradfri(zigbee) devices? I use switch on mains on a few, and it takes ages to update their unavailable state.

verbal shale
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poeple, i did create a zigbee group in zigbee2mqtt

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how to control a group in home assistant

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it does not appear in mqtt devices

brave dagger
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@molten linden got my zigbee coordinator today-- amazing device, works great 👍

verbal shale
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transactions are not supported in z2m groups?

short valve
balmy ginkgo
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Any clue about this? Or should i just ignore? home assistant WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.addons.options] Unknown option 'new_api' for Zigbee2mqtt

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If i use conbeeII and not Deconz can the firmware still be easily updated or do i need Deconz for that?

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I started using zibee2mqtt instead.

jolly narwhal
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Zigbee2mqtt and conbee appears to be a bad choice based on user feedback I've seen lately @balmy ginkgo

sour shadow
verbal shale
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@sour shadow i did this, but i did lose transactions with grouo =O

sour shadow
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What is "transactions"?

verbal shale
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Transitions lol

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Light transitions @sour shadow

sour shadow
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You know, you don't have to tag me...

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If transition doesn't work, you likely didn't define the group correctly

low rock
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Hello #zigbee-archived
Im trying to bind my remotes to specific lights via the "Device bindings" in ZHA -> Manage clusters.
It looks like it works in the log, but it doesnt turn on the light. Am I misunderstanding the function of this or do I need to do anything else to get it to work?
The goal is ofcourse to make the remotes work even if HA is down.. Im trying this with both Ikea 5-button remote and Hue dimmer switch.

wild juniper
short valve
wild juniper
short valve
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Fair enough. 😄

amber reef
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Does anyone know where people publish new device handlers? Does an index/list exist somewhere?

ivory hound
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i think on github

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depending on what integration

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but i dont know the specifics

verbal shale
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the zigbee groups are only made in one way without error in z2m soo....don't know what you are talking

mighty river
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Hi, I have connected some philips hue light bulbs with ZHA. Only I have an strange thing with the bulbs, when I turned off the bulbs they turned on again in 1 sec. When I repeat it for the second time the bulbs stay off. Can anyone give me some advice ?

verbal shale
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ahah this happens with me with ha version core-2021.3.3 and it fixes in core-2021.3.4

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soo.....dunno if you are in core-2021.3.4

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@sour shadow

#
  • platform: mqtt
    name: "Luzes_Salateto"
    schema: json
    command_topic: "zigbee2mqtt/SalaTeto/set"
    state_topic: "zigbee2mqtt/SalaTeto"
    brightness: true
    color_temp: true
    rgb: true
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the transitions option doest exists here, right?

obsidian sandalBOT
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@verbal shale Generally, don't tag people to ask for help - it comes across as bad manners, you’re demanding somebody answers you. It’s different if you’re thanking somebody, obviously. If you do tag somebody keep it polite and respectful. Remember that everybody is a volunteer, and nobody has to help you, and people may block you.

Similarly, please don’t DM (direct message) people asking for help. It also comes across as demanding, and means that others can’t learn from what you do.

Finally, please keep tagging people in replies to a minimum. That too can become annoying very quickly and should be used only when it's necessary (such as if it's been a long time, or there's multiple conversations going on). When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

Command '~tagging' was invoked by: Tinkerer
ivory hound
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@mighty river that's very weird idd

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i have hue bulbs and they work ok

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look in logs maybe somehow they receive 2 commands toggle

obsidian sandalBOT
obsidian sandalBOT
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@sharp elbow Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (text longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://paste.ubuntu.com/ (just not Pastebin).

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

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sour shadow
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I cant configure my aeotec z-stick in z-wave JS.
You wanted the #zwave-archived channel though 😉

sharp elbow
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Sorry, my bad!

old cedar
verbal shale
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new device, working for 8 hours

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and now this

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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-03-25 12:20:42: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-03-25 12:20:42: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-03-25 12:20:42: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-03-25 12:20:42: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:94:31)
at Generator.throw (<anonymous>)
at rejected (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:25:65)

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how reliable is CC2652R ? -_-

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Zigbee2MQTT:info 2021-03-25 12:30:53: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.13.85)
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-03-25 12:31:13: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-03-25 12:31:13: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-03-25 12:31:13: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2021-03-25 12:31:13: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:94:31)
at Generator.throw (<anonymous>)
at rejected (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/dist/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.js:25:65)
npm ERR! code ELIFECYCLE
npm ERR! errno 1
npm ERR! zigbee2mqtt@1.18.1-dev start: node index.js
npm ERR! Exit status 1
npm ERR!
npm ERR! Failed at the zigbee2mqtt@1.18.1-dev start script.

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I already send a usb reset =/

jolly narwhal
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poor power delivery on the device you are using ? running latest 3.x.0 firmware ? running too many concurrent connections in config ?

verbal shale
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????

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nonsense oO

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it was runing 8 hours straigh

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start to fail now

jolly narwhal
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Was not what I was asking

verbal shale
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device: Intel Compute Stick Plus Usb Hub wiith is own power

jolly narwhal
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should be ok then

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not that I would ever do that

verbal shale
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runign last firmware

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yes

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update yesterday

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to many concurrent connection? no...just 13 bulbs

jolly narwhal
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there is a zigbee2mqtt concurrent connections settings

verbal shale
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and a group was created for those 13 bulbs

jolly narwhal
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I found 6 to be the sweetspot

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This is the firmware you are running ? CC2652R_coordinator_20210120.zip

# 
  # Optional: configure adapter concurrency (e.g. 2 for CC2531 or 16 for CC26X2R1) (default: null, uses recommended value)
  adapter_concurrent: null
verbal shale
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yes

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where i put this adapter_concurrent?

jolly narwhal
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in the config

verbal shale
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zigbee2mqtt config?

jolly narwhal
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yes

verbal shale
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ok

amber gull
jolly narwhal
amber gull
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6 seems really low

jolly narwhal
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I had a discussion with Koen, and he adviced me to try 12

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I had some stability issues, and 6 was stable for me

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for the CC1352p2

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Appears 16 is the default for the 26xx series atleast

verbal shale
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@jolly narwhal after reboot debian

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it came p

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came up

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-_-

jolly narwhal
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That is as expected

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That error means the firmware has locked up or stick is irresponsive

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A replug would also have solved it mostly

sour shadow
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The CC2530/31 do that regularly, the newer sticks not so much - at least on the 2021 firmware

glacial ocean
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i have a trådfri ikea bulb and a conbee2 usb stick. This should be enough to control the bulb through HA or i need a ikea hub?

sour shadow
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That's enough - assuming the bulb is relatively near the stick

glacial ocean
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im trying to add it to HA with zigbee home automation but it is not discovering it

sour shadow
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You typically get a range of one to two walls, depending on the walls

glacial ocean
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my conbee 2 is not working properly...

LQI: Unknown
RSSI: Unknown

And it is not discovering my ikea bulb, any ideas?

sour shadow
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Well, if it's not working properly, it won't discover any bulb...

austere patio
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Are you sure you've permitted joins and have put the IKEA bulb into joining mode?

glacial ocean
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what do you mean by permitted joins? And my ikea bulb is on all the time, turn it on/off when im trying to pair it but nothing is happening. I am trying the deConz addon now but no luck

sour shadow
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You have to put the device in pairing mode

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Simply having it on doesn't count

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Similarly the integration isn't constantly allowing new devices to join, you have to turn it on

orchid galleon
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Anyone know how to get the dashbaord for zigbee2mqtt? Can't for the life of me get it to work

sour shadow
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Are you on Z2M 1.18.0 or later?

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Do you have the frontend enabled?

orchid galleon
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1.18.1-1

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Yep

frontend:
  port: 8099
experimental:
  new_api: true
sour shadow
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It just showed up for me

orchid galleon
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its in the sidebar, but getting 502 bad gateway

sour shadow
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Have you tried going direct to it?

orchid galleon
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Didnt even realise I could

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Actually, think ive found the issue

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I thought you could run Zigbee2MQTT alongside deconz with the same stick?

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looks like its failing to start because the serialport is already in use

sour shadow
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No

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One stick, one integration

orchid galleon
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fgs, several people on facebook told me i could run them side by side lol

sour shadow
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They were idiots badly informed

orchid galleon
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i did think it was a bit odd

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Now fails to start because it cant connect to the adapter, hmm

sterile sleet
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in zha:
is /config/neighbors supposed to hold states? can I replace it with empty tmpfs on boot?

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ok so it's not even related to zha, must be some zha_map artefact

stuck sleet
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I have integrated HomematicIP into the existing alarm system, I would like to add zigbee motion detectors. Whats the best way to do this?

obsidian sandalBOT
#

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's CC2652P2 based coordinators and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

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sour shadow
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Pick one of those, depending on your needs and wants

stuck sleet
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my zigbee devices run via deconz, i would like to add the motion sensor to my HomematicIP alarm system.

sour shadow
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Ah, your question sounded like you didn't have any Zigbee

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I doubt very much that you can feed the entities in HA to Homeatic

stuck sleet
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I haven't found a way either. is there a way to do this through automation?

sour shadow
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Seems highly unlikely

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Best you could hope for I suspect would be triggering the alarm through HA

orchid galleon
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Anyone know how to re-pair Hue bulbs when they're not connected to a Hue Hub? They were connected to deconz, but want them on zigbee2mqtt now

stuck sleet
sour shadow
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Well, that'd be done from the Homematic side, it has to be able to pull things in

gentle flint
glacial ocean
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got my ikea bulb working with the ikea hub but not with combee 2 😦

sterile sleet
stuck sleet
obsidian sandalBOT
#

@stuck sleet When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

Command '~reply' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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I've already pointed to all the options I know of... I can't magic something else up

stuck sleet
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then i will see if i can get a new suitable siren and then rebuild it with alarm.

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Thanks

spice kelp
orchid galleon
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Then remove them and they'll start pairing

spice kelp
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yep, that'll work. if you have hue hardware laying around it's a lot easier

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or the dimming remote i believe

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stupid question about Hue bulbs as i've never actually used mine. is there a setting to tell the bulbs what to do when power is lost/restored?

mellow geode
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Yes, there is

spice kelp
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is that exposed via ZHA somewhere?

remote finch
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Hey all, spent a lot of time trying to research how to proceed setting up a DHT11 sensor and connecting it through to HA

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I have two PI3s in my setup, one running HA, another running Z2M with everything working fine for controlling tuya lights

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If anyone has a link or a clue where to look - I just want to wire in the DHT11 and have it speak to the MQTT broker

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On the z2m side

spice kelp
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@remote finch this has nothing to do with zigbee, you'd probably be better served in #diy-archived

sour shadow
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Hook it up to an ESP running ESPHome or Tasmota... no Zigbee, all #diy-archived

remote finch
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Ok I'll get some esps then, was going to anyway.

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I thought cos I had the pi sitting there doing the lights I could use that

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but if you are saying esphome/tasmota is easy to integrate with HA

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will look into it, thanks

spice kelp
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you can hook it up to the Pi using one of the GPIO pins plus a resistor, but #diy-archived would be the place to discuss that

remote finch
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oic what you mean

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ok gotcha

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Thanks both 👍

tropic depot
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so in the philips on off cluster

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there is a power_on_state attr

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level control cluster has a level attr and color control cluster has a color temp attr

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now... as for what the values are for on off... I dunno. It may be documented in z2m docs tho

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lemme look there...

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@mellow geode do you know off the top of your head what the numeric values are for the onoff attr?

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for the onoff attr looks like value 0 == off, 255 == recover last, 1 == on

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I def have to figure out a better way to do this in the UI.... rn it is a mess

mellow geode
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I think that a few other values need to be set for recovering the state

#

Ah, it’s in the Z2M code

#

Also possible to set in the UI

#

Although pre-defined actions would be nice

#

Also, I think that the power_on_state attribute is present in some kind of Zigbee standard. (That’s why it doesn’t work when provided with a manufacturer attribute)
It should also work on all newer IKEA (Zigbee 3.0) lights

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Although the IKEA plugs do not support that attribute (afaik), I think the BlitzWolf ones do (with the quirk on the zhaquirks repo)

spice kelp
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thanks both of you 👍

mellow geode
#

Then the individual quirks could be removed

austere patio
balmy ginkgo
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@jolly narwhal What do you mean, it seems to work fine. Though i only am using 7 sensors on it now. (Zigbee2MQTT with Conbee2)

jolly narwhal
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Multiple users have reported issues here lately

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And it is at best experimental

verbal shale
#

need help

#

I did port my _TZ3400_keyjhapk from zha to zigbee2mqtt

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and not I cant see battery or buttons :S

#

its a zigbee wireless 2gang switch

burnt pecan
#

I'm trying to remove an Hue bulb that is still attached to my v1 Hub. Moving it the deconz... I can use the Hue API to put it into touchlink mode, the bulb blinks but remains attached to the Hue Hub? Shouldn't it be disconnected from the Hue hub?

jolly narwhal
#

I've never had success removing the hue bulbs unless using the dimmer

#

That always works flawlessly

#

I have three dimmers although I never use them for anything...

short valve
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I've removed hue bulbs via the Hue Assistant app just as recently as last week - they are removed properly and are automatically put into pairing mode once again without needing to be reset via power/switch (moved from a hue hub to deconz)

ivory hound
#

can anyone that have zigbee2mqtt and electrolama zig-a-zig-ah coordinator link for me a config (z2mqtt conf) that is working well to compare it with mine?
ofc remove network keys passwords etc

sour shadow
ivory hound
#

thank you

jolly narwhal
#

shoddely copy tinkerers config

limpid lodge
#

Hi please I need assistance...
My zigbee device dongle is not working when I plug to a raspberry pi

jolly narwhal
#

You'd better tell us how you are installing HA, what dongle it is, what zigbee implementation you are using and what the logs say

#

for a start

limpid lodge
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The dongle is cc2531

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And the serial port is not showing

jolly narwhal
#

that answers one of four questions

limpid lodge
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I am installing Home assistance core

#

I am using Texas Instrument

sour shadow
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configuration -> Info -> Installation Type

#

What does it say for that?

crude matrix
#

good morning. How can I find out the Zigbee channel for my ZHA instance on an RPi4b setup and change the channel?

sour shadow
crude matrix
#

thanks!

limpid lodge
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The installation type is home assistance core

sour shadow
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Then make sure that the stick shows up in /dev/ - if it doesn't you've got an OS level issue

austere patio
# crude matrix thanks!

Changing it after network formation isn't yet supported. You'll have to use radio-specific tools to do this.

crude matrix
austere patio
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You should be able to temporarily use the deconz gui to change it

#

But channel 15 works with 99.9% of devices

verbal shale
#

this seller was benn a freaking aswsome, receive the packages in 8 days and well protected xD
I already bought 14 bulbs, 2 doors sensors, temperatura sensor, switchs ... Sorry if you considere this spam but i'm just share my experience xD
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AXjv2G

shut pagoda
#

i like to read these since there are so many options out there, its more of a recommendation based on good experience, they seem to sell stuff i've been ordering and/or will need to order so i'll bookmark them

#

i am just fighting over 3 eur items that were not included in my shipment with some random shop in ali. Asked for a pic.. of what?? the missing components? 🙂 Might blacklist that shop but since mistakes happen i will of course see this to the end and might even reorder the items should they refund (if not sending another package)

verbal shale
karmic cloud
#

Afternoon all! I am having some issues getting my zigbee2mqtt connected to my home assistant setup. Here is what I have: zigbee2mqtt is running on a rPi 4 in the house, in a docker container. I also have a mosquitto instance running in a separate container on the same device (not used with HA - it's for other experiments!). My Home Assistant is setup on a server located in my workshop. I have installed the mosquitto addon in home assistant, and configured a user and password. The configuration is the default as setup by the addon (I understand this is correct). I have configured the username and password in the zigbee2mqtt configuration yaml, along with the server address. If I put the server, username and password settings for the local mqtt server, connection is made correctly, but I am getting an error with the home assistant settings: "Not connected to MQTT server!" I would appreciate any comments about how to resolve this connection. I am running the newest versions of the different software packages. Many thanks!

sour shadow
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The add-on would replace your existing Mosquitto broker

#

So, pick one of them, shut down the other

karmic cloud
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The local mqtt is not visible to Home Assistant - I use it for completely unrelated stuff. I only used it to test the connection to see if the problem was at the zigbee2mqtt end. As it is on a different device, the IP address is different, so there should be no issue with it running for other stuff.

sour shadow
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Install MQTT Explorer and use it to check the authentication details on the broker

old kernel
karmic cloud
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@sour shadow Connection through MQTT Explorer using the home assistant URL, user name and password connects as expected, so I guess there is something I need to do with the zigbee2mqtt configuration

obsidian sandalBOT
karmic cloud
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^^ This is the configuration I have in zigbee2mqtt. I have tried with homeassistant: as true and as false, with no difference to the result.

amber gull
knotty saffron
#

Anyone using Sonoff ZBMINI? Cause I've got always lqi 0, and dunno if I should worry, or chill out

mighty river
#

Probably a silly question, but please have understanding for a confused noob…
Have been playing with HA for couple of weeks now, installed on Pie 4 (4GB, 64bit).
Thinking about adding a Zigbee controller, e.g. RaspBee 2, but got properly confused reading about installation and SD images… So, can I stick the RaspBee into the same Pie 4 that I’m running the HA on? Or does RaspBee need a dedicated Pie to run on?

old kernel
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same is fine.

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i think if i'd known ahead of time i probably would have gotten a TI controller device myself...

mighty river
#

tnx @old kernel!

old kernel
mighty river
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what's the advantage of TI over e.g. RaspBee?

old kernel
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raspbee/conbee is made for the deconz/phoscon zigbee control frameworks. The ZHA and zigbee2mqtt support weren't (and aren't) the core target market.
I think support is still experimental in zigbee2mqtt at least.
I use a conbee with ZHA and it works okay.

mighty river
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cool, tnx! will have to do some more googling to understand the nuances... 🙂

verbal shale
#

Device '0x00124b001852a118' joined
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event', payload '{"data":{"friendly_name":"0x00124b001852a118","ieee_address":"0x00124b001852a118"},"type":"device_joined"}'
Info Starting interview of '0x00124b001852a118'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event', payload '{"data":{"friendly_name":"0x00124b001852a118","ieee_address":"0x00124b001852a118","status":"started"},"type":"device_interview"}'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload '{"message":{"friendly_name":"0x00124b001852a118"},"type":"device_connected"}'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload '{"message":"interview_started","meta":{"friendly_name":"0x00124b001852a118"},"type":"pairing"}'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event', payload '{"data":{"friendly_name":"0x00124b001852a118","ieee_address":"0x00124b001852a118"},"type":"device_announce"}'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload '{"message":"announce","meta":{"friendly_name":"0x00124b001852a118"},"type":"device_announced"}'
Error Failed to interview '0x00124b001852a118', device has not successfully been paired
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/event', payload '{"data":{"friendly_name":"0x00124b001852a118","ieee_address":"0x00124b001852a118","status":"failed"},"type":"device_interview"}'
Info MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload '{"message":"interview_failed","meta":{"friendly_name":"0x00124b001852a118"},"type":"pairing"}'

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no chance?

#

paring a new door sensor :S

jolly narwhal
#

What sensor is it?

verbal shale
#

this one

obsidian sandalBOT
verbal shale
jolly narwhal
#

Tuya no Xiaomi yes

verbal shale
#

tuya

scarlet gust
#

anyone here have a tradfri remote? I got the thing paired once but I reset it and moved to a new coordinator, now I can't get it to pair

#

nvm, guess I needed to complain here to get it to work

wraith dew
#

Anyone with suggestions on reasonably prices Zigbee or Z-wave E12 Candelabra Bulbs? (I prefer Tunable white (warm yellow to soft white) to RGB, but RGB is okay if there's nothing else) Like these, but these are $20 each in the US: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002126012508.html

simple sentinel
wraith dew
#

some of the worst smart devices on the market

#

i think we've all gotten duped by tuya shit

#

and then they have 24398 different apps that they sell to companies

old kernel
#

is tuya the stuff that has like everything just shows up as a generic tuya device basically?

wraith dew
#

is Xiaomi really that good? which products are great

wraith dew
stuck eagle
#

Guys does the Aeotec Z-stick gen5 work for zigbee or only zwave?

molten linden
#

just z-wave

stuck eagle
#

any recommended sticks?

obsidian sandalBOT
#

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's CC2652P2 based coordinators and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

Command '.zigbee' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
#

Pick your integration, then pick your stick 😉

molten linden
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the ones I make 🤣

sour shadow
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If you're in the US, yes

molten linden
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I just got my international shipping down a few $

sour shadow
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(or if you're not in the UK/Europe anyway 😄 )

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Yeah, I was looking 👀

molten linden
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and I'll declare what ever you want.. lol but that limits insurance

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🗡️

wraith dew
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so with Zigbee2MQTT you can just run it natively w/o HA?

sour shadow
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Yes, though it has no automation capabilities

wraith dew
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darn

sour shadow
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It's designed as a bridge between Zigbee and your choice of automation platform

wraith dew
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so lets say i waned to just write a bunch of python scripts w/o HA.. any good ways of doing that?

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i wanted to try a super duper minimalist setup

sour shadow
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Z2M just requires that your own stuff handles MQTT

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"All" you have to do is publish the right messages, and understand the ones it sends

wraith dew
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interesting

sour shadow
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Z2M does have a UI, if you want to manually do everything

wraith dew
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but im sure i can script with python somehow

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as long as i can see and alter the states

sour shadow
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There's been a few others on the Z2M Discord who've talked about the same thing... maybe they actually got somewhere, if you can find them

wraith dew
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i love HA but i wanna experiment with a super minimalist setup to create automations from first principals.. i'll probably continue to use HA after that

verbal shale
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@sour shadow can u send me the z2m discord?

shut pagoda
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should read docs better before ordering, seems i got down-voted white-label tuya inside the blitzwolf

sour shadow
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(right at the bottom, under Support)

mighty river
simple sentinel
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Based on a true story

karmic cloud
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@sour shadow - i solved my issue with the external zigbee2mqtt not connecting to the mosquitto home assistant add-on: I needed to define the server with the IP address; using the server hostname didn't work (but did in MQTT Discovery). Thanks for your help earlier.

obsidian sandalBOT
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Tinkerer is away for 14m 49s with a message :point_right: 🦡 🦡 🦡 🍄 🐍

austere patio
wraith dew
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hmm

austere patio
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But documentation is a little lacking

wraith dew
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how about a-wave devices?

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err z

austere patio
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Dunno, I don't have any

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If you are interested in doing it around zigpy, I can try writing up some better docs for how to code up a minimal application around it.

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It doesn't hide the zigbee parts at all though, so it won't make a ton of sense if you aren't a little familiar with Zigbee internals

wraith dew
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i would love that

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let’s talk later when I’m actually ready to take on a project like that

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you think other people would be interested @austere patio

austere patio
wraith dew
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hmm

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well do you know how large the AppDeamon community is? that may give us a sense of demand for how many people want to code home automation in python

wraith vigil
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Can anyone comment if it's operation as expected in ZHA for a coordinator by itself to show as "Device is Offline"? Tried googling and haven't seen anyone else with a similar question

summer thicket
wraith vigil
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CC2531 from Itead

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Sorry, should have included that useful tidbit. It's running Z-Stack Home 1.2, although I'm not sure which build, but I believe one from 2019...

austere patio
fringe monolith
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Hello people.
May be somebody knows. Do you have seen some sensors which detects home many people are in room? Or enter / exit?

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How I can detect that there are no peoples in room left?

leaden drift
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Just testing my new conbee2 coordinator. First ikea bulb paired fast and easy. Now I can't pair anymore bulbs, the zha binding does not find shit. Any ideas?

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Bulbs are in pair mode ofc

hollow ice
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Hello 👋
Anyone here using Sonoff SNZB-03 motion sensor?

This sensor is spamming me with status every minute, after a few days it become very hard to load status card as there are too many records...
What am I doing wrong?

leaden drift
gentle flint
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Zha binding is not supposed to find shit. It is supposed to bind shit. It is supposed to bind for example a shit bulb to shitter remote. But before it could bind shit, shit should be added to the network. Usually done via "add devices shit" button on zha integration page in the bottom right corner. If these are 1st devices, then should be relatively close to coordinator. You have about 60s to add devices before adding more shit is disabled

leaden drift
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I get it. I just added the first bulb easy. Now im trying to add any more bulba and no luck. Tried with xiaomi switch and worked fast and easy. So out of 30 bulbs I paired only 3

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I mean why did it work with one bulb and the rest are not pairing? Even bulbs that are closer to coordinator than the first one

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Like getting 5 bulbs in pair mode and zha only binding two 😅

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I think it's actually congbee2 sucking. CC2531 seems to work better

austere patio
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Likely just the IKEA bulbs being hard to put into joining mode or you waiting more than 60s

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Do they blink after you do the on/off sequence six times?

leaden drift
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Yeah ofc, as I said one ikea bulb (the first ome) just linked instantly. So are my xiaomi switches. But the rest of ikea bulbs no luck

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With the CC2531 bulbs seems to pair just as fine... Conbee 2 thrash? 😅

tropic depot
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Both of those are tbh

leaden drift
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Nevermind CC2531 found bulbs but only paired one

leaden drift
tropic depot
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zzh, tube’s, etc... there are references pinned to the channel

austere patio
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Coordinators don't look for new devices, the devices look for a network to join

leaden drift
austere patio
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I've found the IKEA stuff to be somewhat tricky to join but even the CC2531 works fine-ish for small networks

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Try cutting power to the bulb for 10s before trying to join it

leaden drift
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I just dont understand how an ikea bulb can be paired instantly and the rest are not even found. Try witj cc2531, it does find the bulbd but dont pair them. This seems so odd

austere patio
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The bulb likely joins the network but refuses to announce itself. Some IKEA stuff does that.

leaden drift
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I dont know anymore, thid is demoralizing

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There is one bulb that pairs instantly

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so weird

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Should be better pairing one by one?

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Maybe having 5 bulbs in pair mode at once fucks it up? The bulb that workd just fine is a single one

austere patio
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It wouldn't hurt to try one by one 🤷‍♂️

leaden drift
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Lol

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Game changing

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I had three bulbs connected to same "power supply" that i couldnt pair as I said. Dismounted two of them, and the other one seems to be detected. Now it is stuck in "interview" but at least it is there

noble lion
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Hi all! Has anybody here any idea how to pair a Heiman HS3MS motion detector? Tried multi presses and log press but no inverview seen 😦

radiant moth
leaden drift
pine vine
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I can see my device connecting in the mosquito broker logs but it isnt displaying as a device in the mqtt integrations panel. Any suggestions??

sour shadow
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I assume you're using Zigbee2MQTT?

pine vine
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Actually, ive realised i am probably in the wrong channel. It's a shelly switch so goes straight to MQTT

sour shadow
pine vine
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Ill head over there now

fresh shard
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Hey Guys I'm using ZHA and I've got most of my philips hue bulbs added but it seems two of them dont want to enter pairing mode. Does anyone know of a work around for this type of issue. I remember typing the serial number in at some point to pair problem lights.

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But dont see any option to do something like that at first glance

stone halo
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Anyone familiar with DIY ZigBee sensors

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Like using an nrf52840

molten linden
tribal rose
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Anyone know how to force a Sylvania Smart+ zigbee bulb into pairing mode?

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Figured it out, power cycle it rapidly 5 or 6 times

tropic depot
stone halo
tribal rose
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anybody know of a br40 zigbee rgb bulb?

lean geyser
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Does anyone know after flashing my zzh! stick with the firmware

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do I need to unplug it to get it back into non BSL mode?

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or let it stay inside my pc

lean geyser
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I unplugged it and worked :p

cloud hazel
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Morning guys - I have just hacked the lidl Silvercrest Zigbee hub so as to work directly with ZHA using these instructions https://paulbanks.org/projects/lidl-zigbee/ha.html and works great I have a lidl GU10 warm white and cool white colour lamp which paired to the hub and shows up in HA however I can change the white colour temp and brightness but cannot make it change colour. Before I converted the hub I set it up in the Tuya app and there was a second tab which when you switched to it the lamp when into colour mode. Has anybody got any experience with this kit and how to change to colour mode. I have not used zigbee before today so brand new to it.

cloud hazel
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Got it working just needed to repair it again

echo flint
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Good morning all, I have a sonoff zigbee hub flashed with tasmota that keeps disconnecting from the devices. It will work for days/weeks then all of a sudden stop reporting from the temp/him sensors and the buttons will stop working. Is zigbee supposed to be this flaky or am I doing something wrong?

radiant moth
woeful vessel
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Can anyone help. Im having problems with a sonoff zigbee bridge. I have flashed tasmota on it but cant get the uart file uploaded. I keep getting Invalid file signature

austere patio
opaque locust
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Is there a problem with opple 6 button switches using ZHA. I can find it in ZHA but it doesn't have any button events. Is my switch broken or is it software related?

orchid elbow
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What is suggested to use as a zigbee gateway for rpi4?

obsidian sandalBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended options being the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah!, Slaesh's stick (though be aware of the well documented communication problems with the seller), Tube's CC2652P2 based coordinators and the TI Launch-XL boards. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

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sour shadow
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☝️ One of those

opaque locust
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Do you use opple switches ?@sour shadow

sour shadow
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If I felt I could help, I would have volunteered a response. Tagging me to demand my attention... that's a bit rude 😉

opaque locust
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I remembered incorrectly then, sorry

sour shadow
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I don't even use ZHA 😉

opaque locust
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I don't know if my problem is a ZHA thing... but anyway, sorry if it came across as rude.

austere patio
echo flint
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@austere patio I'm running ZHA via serial over tcp

austere patio
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Take a look at your homeassistant.log file to see what's wrong

jolly narwhal
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home-assistant.log preferably! 😛

austere patio
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Yeah, that's the one 😆

echo flint
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Any hint as to what I'm looking for?

austere patio
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Start by filtering lines that contain one of zigpy|zha|bellows

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Or looking at the entries in the log surrounding the times when your sensors stopped working. They'd be generated by one of the above libraries

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PM me the log or upload it to somewhere like https://paste.ubuntu.com/ (after removing any personally-identifying information, if you care) if you have issues finding the relevant section

mighty river
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Hi Guys, i really need someone who can help me.
Situation:
Running Home Assistant on a Pi with an Conbee II Zigbee stick installed.
Try to configure my first Zigbee device using deCONZ (but also tried ZHA).

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This device is an EcoDim.07 (dimmer) an is successfully discovered in both apps (deconz and zha).

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But power on/off or dimm doens't work.

echo flint
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@austere patio I just rebooted the server this morning so there is not much in the log

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I may need to give it a few hours

austere patio
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Serial over TCP over WiFi is likely the problem

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It's a little hacky to begin with and bringing WiFi into the mix makes it even worse

echo flint
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So weak Wifi Signal?

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is there a better way to do this with the current hardware I have?

austere patio
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The current hardware is likely the problem to begin with so not really 😆

echo flint
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lol

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ok. In an ideal situation what would be the best hardware setup to bring zigbee based sensors into HA

austere patio
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If the connection to the bridge is broken, ZHA via bellows will try reconnecting over and over to your bridge

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If that doesn't work, something is very broken if you say your entire network stops functioning

echo flint
karmic cloud
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Afternoon all! I am having some fun with a Drayton Schneider Wiser TRV part number WV704R0A0902 over zigbee2mqtt. Auto discovery in HA identifies the valve, and enables me to set the target temperature. If I set the target temperature to,say, 17C, then at some point later something else (I think the valve itself) it changes the target temperature back to 20. I don’t see any mqtt messages passing which could have made the change, and at the moment I have not made any other configuration changes (such as automations). Has anyone else had similar experiences?

opaque locust
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I can't really make, head or tail out of it.

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ZHA reports that it has been added successfully, but the (tiny) blue blinks that you can see when you press a button can't be seen. Is it possible that ZHA deactivated the switch somehow. I can't read that attribute (or any other) after it has paired, so I can't poll the status.

austere patio
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That's normal with battery powered devices that aggressively sleep

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The device signature specifically is what would tell you if a quirk has been applied to the device or not

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It could be that it's some new configuration that hasn't been seen before and is currently "unknown", since it likely is completely standards non-compliant

opaque locust
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the quirk applied is Quirk: zhaquirks.xiaomi.aqara.opple_remote.RemoteB686OPCN01V3

austere patio
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Should be working then

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And it has a ton of device automation triggers

opaque locust
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I suspect it is a hardware problem then

austere patio
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Does the log show anything when you click a button?

opaque locust
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o

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no

austere patio
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If not, have you tried re-joining it to your network

opaque locust
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yes

austere patio
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Changed the battery?

opaque locust
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yes

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I got other opple switches (but 4 buttons, the problem one has 6) and they all give out a short blue blink when you press a button

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that's why I suspect it is a hardware problem, but I also know it is not always the case the 6 button opple has worked when the 4 button ones do

keen loom
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Hi everybody! Thought I ask here before opening a separate issue on github: Anybody know how to identify the process/integration sending ZigBee commands? I have a dimmer connected via zha, and works "perfectly" by sending manual zigbee commands, but when adjusting the light via light-controller in dashboard it always goes to full brightness directly after adjusting.. I can for sure see the command being sent, but not sure if it is HA or anything else doing it wrong. Another dimmer of a different brand works perfectly.

opaque locust
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...for zha events

keen loom
opaque locust
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there is a way to listen for events in HA too, have you tried that?

keen loom
opaque locust
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developer tools -> event

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if you use zha, write zha_event and press listen

austere patio
opaque locust
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no

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is there no problem with the bound 'on_off' cluster: Status.TABLE_FULL statements?

austere patio
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Hmm

opaque locust
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I can see from the last seen statement in the integration that after the pairing it is never seen again

austere patio
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That's something your device sends back in response to the bind request

opaque locust
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ZHA is working without fault for my other devices so it's not a general porblem (if at all, might just be hw problems)

opaque locust
austere patio
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I don't have this specific hardware, no

opaque locust
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I'm missing some good zigbee switches. I don't know why it's so hard to find. If you have any suggestions I'm all ears

gentle flint
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Define good? Embrighten is pretty good.

gentle flint
stoic venture
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I just had my server randomly go down. After rebooting a bunch of my zig bee devices are unavailable. Do I have to add devices or is there a way to search for missing devices?

silver stump
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hey there,
Can I ask for some help with HA setup?

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I want to add a okay zzh! CC2652R stick

shut pagoda
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just ask the question 🙂

sour shadow
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And remember to say whether you're using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

silver stump
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I am typing typing just a sec.

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I created a sort gif about the issue, but I cant upload it... So I have to type it.

obsidian sandalBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images.

Command '~images' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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But... only if it adds actual value

silver stump
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Thanks.
https://imgur.com/qZouWi2
Well we will see. I think the picture is describe my issue easier.
I am on the second screen of HA setup where I can add devices.

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And I am not ssure what to add.

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I have zzh! CC2652R stick

austere patio
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Have you flashed it with firmware?

shut pagoda
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So you need to figure out which port to use?

sour shadow
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So, ZHA then

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And the answer is... it's not AMA

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Of course, if you're using HAOS then the Supervisor tells you what hardware is connected

silver stump
shut pagoda
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Oh, right, then you've just got a blinking light there 🙂

silver stump
# sour shadow So, ZHA then

I ask this thread eariler, and you guys recommended to choose z2m instead of ZHA.
Thank you for reminding to that also 🙂

austere patio
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Both work fine with the zzh so it's up to you

silver stump
sour shadow
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That doesn't mean that ZHA isn't an option for Zigbee 😉

silver stump
sour shadow
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See the pinned messages

silver stump
obsidian sandalBOT
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@silver stump When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

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lean geyser
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Does anyone know how I can fix my npm time

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my zigbee2mqtt integration is using the wrong time

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so home assistant isn't doing my routines well since theres a sunset restriction on it

jolly narwhal
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Zigbee2mqtt Integration

keen loom
# opaque locust if you use zha, write zha_event and press listen

Thanks for the tip - zha_event gave nothing, but turning on logger did! Debuging and my fair share of troubleshooting have come up with a plausable reason:
homeassistant.core orders a new brightness
homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base executes "move_to_level_with_on_off" command correctly, but afterwards it also executes an "on" command. My dimmer triggers this by going to max brightness. My second dimmer does not. Is this concidered a logical flaw in ZHA, or an vendor specific kind of bug?

obsidian sandalBOT
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keen loom
silver stump
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okay, installed zha, and I had a ikea tradfi simple switch laying around.
I want to add to HA, but it stuck at
Device Found
Starting Interview

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any idea?

austere patio
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If it's battery powered try clicking buttons to keep it awake

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The mains powered ikea stuff should add without issues

silver stump
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it happend.
eventually I managed to add.
Can I check somewhere if it's working?
Some kind of eventlog

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?

opaque locust
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I just added one of those ikea simple switches too, and I realised that even though I was several meters from an ikea tradfri transformer it paired with it (instead of the zha router as I would have hoped) and by doing that disconnected that transformer from ZHA. Is there a way to prevent the transformer from acting that way. I live in an apartment building. I don't like the idea that a neighbour could 'steal' the zha pairing by mistake from the other side of the wall.

jolly narwhal
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Steal a pairing

south holly
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hi all. trying to check my ZHA settings, i remember there was a section on the configure home assistant screen, now when i go to configure in the integration it says "In the future you can change network settings for ZHA here.", any idea where that was moved to ?

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(I do see "Missing the ZHA config panel? It was moved to the ZHA entry on the integrations page ." but again when i go there, it says in the future... 8-))

molten linden
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What settings are you thinking of? Zha is now under integrations and once on the page you can mange groups and see the map visualization. There is a brand new PR to bring more config options to that page but those have never been there in the past

south holly
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@molten linden I believe my port (ttyacm0) was changed, and i want to verify its set to the correct one, as my ZHA integration stopped working

molten linden
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I don’t remember that being a setting in the II. Non the less to change it/see it you can edit (back it up first) core.config_entries in the .storage folder

south holly
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@molten linden Thanks, it actually goes to the right adapter, simply integration stopped working, any ideas regarding where i can find the logs ?

molten linden
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Check the zha docs integration docs there is a section there that describes the how to turn up the logging

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It will all be in your main home assistant log

south holly
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Continuing on my ZHA issues, Devices appears, seems like "Last Seen" is a bit laggy (30 minutes delay), no rssi or lqi appear for devices, Logs shows many
"2021-03-28 22:25:04 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0xE357:1:0x0202]: Could not set speed: [0xe357:1:0x0202]: Message send failure" (addresses changes)
while no change was really made to the system beside an upgrade to core 2021.3.2 2 days ago

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any ideas?

feral warren
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So I'm wanting to get my first zigbee device and was wondering where I should start. I know I need a controller and software for it but how do I choose between Conbee and raspbee or ZHA and deCONZ?

austere patio
south holly
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@austere patio ConBee II

austere patio
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And what HA version did you upgrade from?

south holly
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2021.3.1 to 2021.3.2

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i went over several posts in the forums, from different versions of people having the same issue, looks like the conclusion was to remove and add from scratch, but this will be painful with all the devices and integration i have

austere patio
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Nothing changed between those two versions

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In fact the diff is quite tiny

south holly
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Yes, I checked that as well as much as possible, didnt saw anything special in the release notes..., Visualization still works

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i see the devices... but all devices are unavailble in the gui

austere patio
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Have you restarted HA before upgrading from 2021.3.1?

south holly
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nope

austere patio
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That seems to be the only "change"

south holly
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will try to re-pair one of the devices

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errors as well

#

well now, even the conbee II coordinator is set to "off" on the gui

austere patio
south holly
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yes

austere patio
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Can you upload your log somewhere or PM it to me after redacting personal info (if you care)? If you can't even join new devices, something else may be broken.

south holly
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i see in the logs many message send failures

austere patio
#

Do any Zigbee devices work at all?

south holly
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it looks like ha does "talk" to the conbee

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is there a way to check it ? (it does appear in the hardware list)

mellow geode
south holly
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Does the ZHA uses MQTT?

austere patio
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No

south holly
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well will go on removing and adding it... 8-( hopefully it will solve the problem

austere patio
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Some people have no issues with Conbees. Others have tons, even after a simple reboot. There seems to be no middle ground.

south holly
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Was working for over a year with no issues..., Well you never know

austere patio
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So absolutely nothing works? Are you running HA core or an installation of HA OS?

south holly
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I Believe i run the Core, The one comes all setup

austere patio
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That would be the OS

south holly
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so the OS 8-)

austere patio
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HA core is just the Python package

south holly
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Probably the ConBee decided to retire, doesnt work even after remove/adding... which one is the best recommended usb zha ?

austere patio
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Sticks/coordinators with Silicon Labs and Texas Instruments (preferably not the CC2530/CC2531) chips work well

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But I don't think I've heard of a Conbee completely breaking like this

south holly
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Is there a way in Ha OS to check it ?

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after removing/adding, and even changing usb port, it remains the same, the usb is recognized, no lqi/rssi appears.

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it import back all the devices paired with the stick, but nada, you cant do with them nothing

austere patio
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I don't believe the OS can tell you anything other than the device being plugged in and a serial port popping up. If ZHA starts up, communication with the stick works, just for whatever reason you cannot communicate with devices on the network

south holly
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appears as unavaille, will try to re-pair one of them again now

austere patio
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Does your network have no routers? Only sensors?

south holly
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it have routers too (jasco on/off switches)

austere patio
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Conbee issues aren't something I know too much about once you exhaust the usual Zigbee coordinator config problems so I'm afraid I'm out of suggestions here

south holly
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Thanks for the help, i think its a bad stick, tried to delete/paur and iu get a zdo_leave_req failed

mellow geode
orchid elbow
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Any reviews on the zzh CC2652R Multiprotocol RF Stick by tindie? Is it the best I can get?

sour shadow
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Works well, if you're in the UK it's a no-brainer IMO

orchid elbow
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Why so?

sour shadow
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Well, it's local, and you can't really buy anything better 😄

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If you were in the US, the import costs would make Tube's a better choice

orchid elbow
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Ahh okay, I'm in Malta actually. So anything in Europe or brexit Kingdom would do 😅

sour shadow
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Slaesh's stick is also worth looking at, but be aware of the extensively documented communication and shipping issues

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(it should turn up, eventually, you just don't know when)

orchid elbow
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Always very helpful. Thanks sir 🙏

jolly narwhal
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It lives in a superposition until it arrives and can be observed

keen loom
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Hello good people! Trying to reach out again today -
Short story: Dimmer not working correctly,
homeassistant.core orders a new brightness
homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base executes "move_to_level_with_on_off" command correctly, but afterwards it also executes an "on" command. My ELKO-dimmer triggers this by going to max brightness. My NAMRON-dimmer does not. Is this concidered a logical flaw in ZHA, or an vendor specific kind of bug? Could it be solved by a so called quirk?

stone halo
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Opinions on thread?

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I doubt it the cc2652 etc would support dual protocol

jolly narwhal
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My cc1352 support sub GHz atleast

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If that ever gets traction

stone halo
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Thread is 2.4ghz like zigbee

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802.15.4

near echo
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Thread and zigbee will not run simultaneously. But yes if there is azigbee sub ghz picks up you could run there theoretically

stone halo
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Not yet

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Or never?

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I don't get why thread is a thing tbh

near echo
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It will be when manf realises its importance. The ipv6 for thread is too exciting to ve ignored since you are working on the tcp layer now

stone halo
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Yeah but the problem is is the compatibility, should've made it backwards compatible with ZigBee

opaque locust
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@tropic depot There is something wrong when you try to pair certain devices with the latest ZHA version. When I tried to pair an opple 6 button, it reported as paired but then it was dead for the world. Even the short blue blinks that accompany presses normally was deactivated. I could not access attribute or commands in the integration page. I did the following to resolve the issue for me but the bug is still there.
1 I reinstalled deconz (while having zha deactivated) and paired it there, then the blue blinks came back, it controlled all the lamps in the network then
2 I deactivated deconc and reactivated zha, I could now get zha events, but there were of the controll all events variety. I could not access the attributes in the integration page
3 I I paired it again with zha, now I get the normal zha events again

I wasn't able to pair a philips hue lamp either, that stopped during negotiation. That was also resolved by spinning up deconz once.

Zigbee is kind of confusing to me, I would file a bug report but I know if this is due to the zigbee hardware (deconz) or something wrong with the zha device handlers.

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What I find the most strange is that ZHA deactivated the blue blinks during the pairing attempt. Could it have disabled the device by mistake?

stone halo
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Maybe project chip will be an thread alternative

jolly narwhal
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@stone halo

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stone halo
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I know

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It's bad

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I hate it because it only supports planned obsolesce

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I'm kinda glad Philips said to keep using zigbee

thorny phoenix
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hi. some motion sensor for zigbee mqtt which looks a bit more ok than aqara?

violet dagger
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what is more ok?

thorny phoenix
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something rounded ..without that "leg"

sour shadow
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The Konke ones are more compact

violet dagger
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thats not rounded at all

sour shadow
thorny phoenix
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oh..nice..looks like a bulb

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Important #

Konke devices only work on Zigbee channel 15, 20 and 25.

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hm

sour shadow
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Yeah, it's a problem if you're on another channel

thorny phoenix
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channel: 25
network_key:
- 1
- 3
- 5

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yupeee

jolly narwhal
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DIY WiFi mains powered might be an option too, then you can have whatever design you want

violet dagger
thorny phoenix
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no "leg" :)))

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wifi powered...sure...but need cases to wrap things

violet dagger
thorny phoenix
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hope i can pair with ha :)))

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and can be delivered from france...that's very nice

violet dagger
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z3.0 should mean it works with ZHA

thorny phoenix
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no zigbee2mqtt ?

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i have a working sensor on 3.0

violet dagger
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for z2m depends on the zigbeemodel and manufacturerid

sour shadow
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Adding support for new devices is well documented

thorny phoenix
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indeed it is

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but sometimes pairing mode is such pain

naive ivy
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Lately my home assistant log is getting tons of errors from ZHA; Error calling listener: Data is too short to contain 4 bytes. Before I go through the hassle of enabling debug logging and interpreting a huge log file, does anyone have any immediate familiarity with that message?

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Pretty much just looking to know what I'm looking for in the log

opaque locust
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The zigbee specs talks about an attribute called DisableLocalConfig. It says "Bit 0 of the DisableLocalConfig attribute disables any factory reset button (or equivalent) on the device. Bit 1
disables any device configuration button(s) (or equivalent)—for example, a bind button". My question is, does this disable the quick pairing functionality also (the one where you are near the device and hold the pairing button)?

gritty frigate
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Howdy 🙂

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Folks, what's the best way to determine if a set of zigbee products can extend the network of another set of zigbee products?

sour shadow
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Well, it's (mostly) a question of is it a router

gritty frigate
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is there no vendor specific limitations to worry about?

sour shadow
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And most mains powered devices will - but there's exceptions (some bulbs, some two wire switches)

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Not generally, but with Xiaomi ... see the pinned messages

gritty frigate
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e.g. would a Tuya smart plug (router) extend to a Philips HUE sensor?

delicate fossil
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Hypothetically if I deleted init.py on my zhaquirks folder how could I recover it? Can I just copy the file from github?

gritty frigate
sour shadow
molten linden
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though make sure the same version/release

delicate fossil
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@molten linden how to do I confirm that?

molten linden
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you can see what version is installed on the site-packages folder /usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages

delicate fossil
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@molten linden ty. Always such a huge help

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Looks like 0.0.54

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For the zha quirks

molten linden
delicate fossil
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@molten linden it worked like a charm. Ty!

floral island
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Hey together. I have a question relating a supervised HA-installation.
In the third attempt i got my Deconz-Gateway running. So my GW-IP is 172.30.33.3.
But in the Integrations i cant (also manually) connect to it. And only an old Deconz-GW on an old Pi is found in my Network.
Any suggestions?

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I can ping 172.30.33.3. Also i can ping the failed .1 and .2? But why? There is only one container with deconz running.

sour shadow
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The 172.30.33.x range will be for other containers in your install

floral island
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Okay. Do they randomly change on every reboot? That would be bad.

sour shadow
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I doubt it, but I don't use Supervised

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Things should be using the container name, since Docker handles that for you

floral island
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Okay. Got it.

sour shadow
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The integration should auto-detect, if it doesn't and you're running #330944238910963714 then likely you've got a broken install

floral island
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I am running it supervised.
After many system reboots it now automatically finds the gateway under its docker-ip, but when connecting "unkown error occured".

sour shadow
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One has HAOS, and one doesn't. One is for experts in Docker, Linux, and Networking... the other is for sane people 😛

floral island
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I am not using the OS.

In log it says "pydeconz.errors.pydeconzException: / link button not pressed"
But its pressed 😦

sour shadow
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Well, if you're not using the OS, troubleshooting networking issues should be familiar to you 😉

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I'll let somebody who knows deCONZ help you from here though

floral island
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The network-problem is solved with many reboots 😄

sour shadow
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"Solved"

floral island
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I solved the Zigbee/Deconz-Problem
There was an old entry in the core.config_entries-File.
And also my existing and not used Deconz-Installation on an old pi disturbed my configuration.
After removing the entry and setting the pi offline it worked instant with adding the integration.

naive agate
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Hey team! Is there any easy way to determine channel support for end devices? I am working through my 2.4gHz channel plan.

Thanks!

sour shadow
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The pinned messages have links to Blakaddr's lists, and the Zigbee2MQTT devices list - they list any known limitations

mighty river
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Hi, I have still an zha problem with my Philips hue and Innr light bulbs. Everytime when i turn off the lights, they will turn on immediately back on. I have checked my light automation in Node Red. And they should working, I think it is an zigbee issue but I cannot find the issue. Can anyone help me with this problem?

austere patio
opaque locust
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Is it possible to change zigbee hardware and still be up and running with a zha installation, i.e. without the need to pair everything again?

tropic depot
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yes

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you can migrate from TI -> TI w/ zstack

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and you can backup and restore ember (SI) based sticks

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I think Walt actually went from SI -> TI

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with deconz you are SOL AFAIK

austere patio
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You can (in theory) go from deCONZ to TI and SI sticks if you can fill out enough of the network parameters in their respective backup formats

molten linden
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^ the expert ^

austere patio
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And put some big enough value for the frame counter

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Dunno if anyone has ever tried it though

amber gull
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Something about starting off with a 50 year old zigbee network that will die an early frame counter death bothers me 😆

mighty river
amber gull
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Looking though daily sniffs, I see a few rejoin responses denied with "PAN Full" message

jolly narwhal
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Daily sniffs

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Dirty modCheck

spice kelp
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eew "pan full"

viral ermine
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Are there any options for mqtt on an old Conbee I stick? zigbee2mqtt doesn't support it for what it looks like

spice kelp
viral ermine
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That's for Conbee II, you mean it works for the first stick too?

spice kelp
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yep, i recently tested with an original raspbee. pretty sure the serial protocol is the same for all the deconz devices

viral ermine
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Alright, I'll give it a shot then 🙂 Thanks

austere patio
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I can't find the GitHub comment from one of the deCONZ devs but they said that the "old" and the new sticks are functionally identical

silver stump
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hey there,
I had some update (if anyone intrested about yet an other guy strugling with his ha 😄 )
So I manage to add that zigbee ikea button to ha. The trick was to push the small reset button times, then wait, and time to time push any of the front buttons so it didnt go to sleep.
So my next issue. I want to create in node red a simple action, but in the Entry id the button event are not listed.

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i am using zha

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what am I missing?

sour shadow
viral ermine
silver stump
viral ermine
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I should be able to pair all zigbee devices at the same time by flipping the main powerbreaker for the house in the right pattern, no? 🤔

sour shadow
viral ermine
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I have a ups for the zigbee gateway... 🙂

sour shadow
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On the up side, you may be replacing a lot of your electronics

viral ermine
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😄

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Sorry, it's late here and I had 3 hours of sleep last night

rotund wave
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Hey folks, has anyone used the Tube's zigbee coordinator?

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I am having trouble with the setup of the USB coordinator. I Don't see how to set it up. It says to connect to the router via ethernet, but this definitely does not have ethernet. Is it safe to assume to hook it to my host machine and do it that way somehow?

sour shadow
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Yeah, that's just a USB connection

autumn ore
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Hi all 😄

obsidian kettle
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Hey all, been trying to read up on zigbee and zwave, to wrap my head around all this. Wanted to ask you to correct what I've gathered so far.
-- Zigbee/Z-wave are mesh networks. So, having lots of devices is better.
-- The hub(s) should be in somewhat central locations.

Any other fundamentals that I'm missing ?

violet dagger
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  1. having a good number of router devices
  2. not really if you have a good mesh network
sour shadow
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  1. Better if it's more central, but not critical
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There is a pinned message about the Zigbee mesh FYI

obsidian kettle
sour shadow
obsidian kettle
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Ok, let me ask this: I have an Aqara G2H camera that's supposed to be a Zigbee hub. The Aqara home app only seems to allow the G2H camera to pair other Aqara devices. Is there a way to make this a 'generic' hub ?

violet dagger
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no

obsidian kettle
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Bummer

violet dagger
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atleast not at this time

obsidian kettle
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I went all in on HomeKit. These HomeKit devices are annoying now that I have HA.

sour shadow
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Somebody would need to hack it, so it could be re-flashed with alternative firmware, and it would need to use a chip that's already supported

obsidian kettle
sour shadow
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This isn't impossible... it's been done with other devices, but ...

violet dagger
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i might or might not disassemble one soon to see what's up 😉

obsidian sandalBOT
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@obsidian kettle When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

Command '~reply' was invoked by: Tinkerer
obsidian kettle
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Is that Tinkerer's way of saying "stop mentioning me" ? 😆

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I get it. I hate it when my wife texts me several thing in a row. As if every sentence gets it's own message!

sour shadow
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Reply is fine, but leaving @ON gets annoying

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It's a stupid default on part of Discord

obsidian kettle
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I know this is the Zigbee channel, but is there something that would suggest Z-Wave is better for some situations? Or, are they jsut two competing standards trying to accomplish the same thing (like Google Assistant vs. Alexa) ?

sour shadow
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Z-Wave uses a different frequency band, that generally is better for going through obstacles, gives you better range, and is less susceptible to interference (from WiFi, Bluetooth, and microwave ovens)

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It also costs a lot more

obsidian kettle
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Geez. So many adapter options that may not cover all devices. Too bad I can’t use WiFi for all device types.

sour shadow
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The adapter doesn't matter (much)