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fast talon
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thats what i was referring to

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once it is in pairing mode

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press it once every few seconds

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๐Ÿ™‚

sour shadow
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I just watched the Z2M logs and kept pushing the button until it started pairing

fast talon
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ya I just discovered the logs ๐Ÿ™‚

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super helpful

sour shadow
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And then kept pushing it to keep it awake until interviewing completed ๐Ÿ˜„

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You get the same result in a more human friendly manner with the UI now

plucky garden
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@sour shadow when I press scan on zigbee2mqtt after 5 seconds it turns off and write finished touchlink scan, is it normal?

sour shadow
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Why are you trying to do Touchlink?

plucky garden
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@sour shadow I thought it was like this, I've never done a stitch before

sour shadow
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That's why there's docs

plucky garden
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my bad

plucky garden
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I tried and nothing will connect @sour shadow

obsidian sandalBOT
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@plucky garden Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

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sour shadow
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Well, start by making sure it's near the coordinator or a router (mains powered device connected to the mesh)

plucky garden
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yes i tried anyway and nothing @sour shadow

sour shadow
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Stop tagging me

plucky garden
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sorry

sonic orbit
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Jesus that's a lot of @'s

jolly narwhal
tired cedar
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Hmm I'm having some zigbee issues

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specifically with a Zigbee 3.0 relay box and zigbee2mqtt

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it keeps failing the interview (blinking the light in the process)

jolly narwhal
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Relay box?

tired cedar
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@jolly narwhal yea sorry, seems to be fairly niche

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it's fairly similar to a much more popular one by nordtronic

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I've opened an issue on zigbee2mqtt, because it fails to interview (It's my understanding that should still work even if it's not in devices.js)

dry fossil
graceful canopy
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This morning zigbee2mqtt stopped working, I am trying to diagnose why but it seems the serial interface is been passed through: unlink("/dev/ttyZ2M"): Read-only file system Is the error I'm getting

graceful canopy
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Even trying the socat command directly in the docker I get: socat[2731] E unlink("/dev/ttyZ2M"): Read-only file system

golden vessel
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reboot?

graceful canopy
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Tried that, and unplugged the USB, restored old snapshot and installed zigbee2mqtt-edge

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nothing working so far

golden vessel
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that ttyZ2M is a symlink right?

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is it pointing correctly?

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or a docker mapping

graceful canopy
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Its a socat docker mapping over serial but it can't seem to create the file in /dev as it reports as a read only filesystem

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whats werid was this never happened before today

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I'm really stuck not sure what to do :/

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I see this in top {socat.sh} /bin/bash /app/socat.sh /data/options.json fork

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It seems it can no longer create /dev/ttyZ2M

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I wonder if this is an issue with the addon?

tired cedar
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Is it possible to have a zigbee switch be registered in the light domain?

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I'm using zigbee2mqtt

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basically I want switch.kitchen_counter to be light.kitchen_counter

rocky field
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using the zha integration, trying to change controllers from a ConBee2 to a HUSBZB-1 stick and HA appears to be getting confused and includes a "unk_model" device with the IEEE of the ConBee2

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anyone seen this before? I'm able to add/control other devices just fine

vernal umbra
tired cedar
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oooh, nice! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

jolly narwhal
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@tired cedar ah, yes it should work, and adding it to z2m should be fairly straightforward by copying a similar device in the database, I've done it with two bulbs

lament loom
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how to pair QS-Zigbee-D02-TRIAC-LN?

orchid mountain
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anyone using conbee2 with ikea tradfri? is it easy to add new devices to it? because with the original tradfri gateway I need a remote and it's pretty annoying experience.. and if conbee2 'just works' I might get rid of the ikea gw to consolidate my hardware..

mighty river
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I'm running many Ikea Trรฅdfri devices on a conbee2. Works fine (mostly).

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("many" = 42, ConBee 2 / ZHA / HA 2021.1.5 on a RaspBerry Pi 3B)

golden vessel
balmy ginkgo
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(Deconz/Zigbee) Anyone that uses aqara sensors? I have the temp/humid/pressure ones. the one in the freezer went offline.. so i thought it was broken but as soon as i pressed the button it was online again. Now the frige one went offline. Same thing, i pressed it and bam.. online again. Is this a known issue? Do they go offline if they can't reach the server a while or some other reason?

dry fossil
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The Aqara stuff isn't good at finding a new router if it has a bad connection. You should make a stronger network.

balmy ginkgo
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Yeah i was wondering that, i did move the pi to my desk temporarily, A little closer actually but maybe for the signals a little harder to reach

mighty river
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I've got a number of Aqara sensors and they seem to work fine. Don't run them in my freezers though. What I do have problems with is the Ikea lights/outlets (acting as routers) that sometimes goes offline (I'm guessing due the known low-level zigbee firmware bug that leaks memory). Which can cause the sensors that routes via them to have problems. A physical power off/on wakes them up again though. It almost never happened when I had few devices, but when I got over 30 or so it started happening more often. Eagerly awaiting firmware updates... ๐Ÿ™‚

analog ember
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@balmy ginkgo Try pairing them at the location you are planning to place them, should help them in choosing the correct router from the start

balmy ginkgo
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Oh they can be updated huh, nice.

analog ember
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Don't believe the aqara sensors can be updated

balmy ginkgo
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i only have 1 router though, but it is in the pi not extention cabled. So that would be my 1st step if it occurs again

analog ember
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All the ikea tradfri stuff can

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Always a good idea to use an usb extention cable, can to great things for your range & stability

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If that still didn't add enough range for the sensors, try adding a router. Something like an ikea smart plug/signal repeater should work great

lament loom
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there is no reset button on 2 gang dimmer, how to reset it?

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its not dimmer, its module sory

thorny phoenix
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how can i measure the link quality of my cc2538 in my house? it's small, but there are doors and walls

sour shadow
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Your choice of Zigbee integration should be telling you

thorny phoenix
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that will be mqtt

sour shadow
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Zigbee2MQTT creates sensors that include the LQI

thorny phoenix
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so...i will walk with a sensor in the house

sour shadow
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Well, that'd be the only way to map it, but the sensor probably won't change routes, so it won't give you the best results

dry fossil
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Remember Zigbee is a mesh network. The more nodes you have, the stronger the mesh gets.

thorny phoenix
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i can put cc2531 as a repeater?

dry fossil
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It's not about point-to-point signal strength like WiFi.

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Yes, the CC2531 can be a router if you flash it with the correct firmware.

thorny phoenix
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oh...flash....headaches ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

dry fossil
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But... you should probably use other devices as routers. Devices that do something else in addition to routing.

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Smart outlets, smart switches, some smart bulbs.

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When you have enough Zigbee devices, you'll end up with at least one router in each room and signal won't be an issue.

thorny phoenix
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oh...i can move an ikea bulb from living to kitchen....

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nice idea

dry fossil
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Buy another bulb. Repeater in every room ๐Ÿ˜‰

balmy ginkgo
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ikea good for the zigbee?

thorny phoenix
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wait for ministry of finance to approve expenses :))))

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ikea very good ๐Ÿ™‚

balmy ginkgo
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i vowed never ever to set foot in their shop ever again. But i see they have them in online shop.

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Do i need to flash them?

thorny phoenix
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send a friend....transport is expensive :))

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no flash

balmy ginkgo
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So all this TRร…DFRI is just zigbee? Nice, reasonable prices too. Almost makes you forget Ali.

thorny phoenix
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switches, bulbs

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best part is that work with other zigbee coordinator than ikea

balmy ginkgo
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So you'd recommend those?

elfin coral
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Is there a good way to move between USB Zigbee devices? Looking to switch from an existing Conbee II to a Electrolama zig-a-zig-ah! . I believe I need to start over, but wasn't sure if there's anything I need to reset on the HA side

balmy ginkgo
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wow, clicked some tradifarian stuff together man, 150 Euro :/

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Guess i should just bite ye-olde bullet

near echo
balmy ginkgo
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my goal is realy to do it all from HA. Except 1 kill switch button that turns off all lights when i go to bed. ANd in other areas i wanna have motion sensors turn on thelights and auto turn off after n-minutes when no motion is detected. But that switch looks cool ๐Ÿ™‚

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And have my zigbee talk to HAtrough deconz (I did not know about ZHA untill i saw it in topic here) and HA <->nodered. I realy dig nodered

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I have some cheap sonos zigbee switches. They realy are.. cheap. And it shows.

elfin coral
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argh I need more tea this morning, meant Zigbere devices earlier, not Zwave ๐Ÿ˜›

sour shadow
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The sad answer is, you need to re-pair everything

balmy ginkgo
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Are the ikea roll-up curtains also zigbee. <- Yes according to article.. woohoo

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Manual not realy mentions it.

elfin coral
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That's fine actually, do the existing devices need to be cleaned up manually too?

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I moved from Homeseer after 20+ years to HA, so cleaning up of old devices/entities is still a struggle for me in situations like this

sour shadow
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Probably, depends on whether the integration handles it for you or not

elfin coral
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Thank you Tinkerer, guess I'll give it a shot and see what happens ๐Ÿ™‚

balmy ginkgo
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@analog ember and others is a 2.5Meter extention okay? It's the only USB<>USB cable i have ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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connects it to itself and waits for the universe to explode

verbal shale
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There is anyway to disable routers from a device in ZHA ? Because some devices are binding to some rooters, after this device router lost power, all my devices connected to that router goes unavaliable

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=/

amber gull
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No, no integration can stop routers from routing unfortunately

verbal shale
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than, how I can say that specific device to only bind to X router

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?

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in ZHA

lament loom
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is it normal that battery runs down fast in my aqara thermometer when its outside?

verbal shale
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@lament loom maybe, temperature can be an trash

lament loom
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u mean trash

verbal shale
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yup

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sorry

amber gull
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You can go to a specific router (Config > Integrations > ZHA > Devices > Specific router) and choose "Add devices via this device"

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No guarantee that your device won't later change to a new parent router though ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

verbal shale
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dont work, ZHA will change it after a while

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it will put the enddevice in the best "router" device

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I can't controll it

golden vessel
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you need to keep the devices powered, or have a separate network for devices that loose power

verbal shale
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in deconz you can separate

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in mqtt too

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@golden vessel

sour shadow
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You can pick which device they pair to, but they'll still pick their own routes over time

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This is how all mesh networking works TBH

golden vessel
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@verbal shale that is probably the equivalent of "Add devices via this device" in ZHA

mighty river
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Hello, I force deleted two devices, now I want to add them again but it is not possible to pair the devices again. Are those devices now in some kind of blacklist?
Can someone please tell me how to re-add a force deleted device?

verbal shale
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@mighty river they are batery power? remove the battery for a few seconds

mighty river
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okay I will try

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No, it does not work

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Do I have to manually remove the devices from some config files?

golden vessel
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@mighty river what integration? (check this channel's topic)

mighty river
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sorry, I'm using zigbee2mqtt

lime locust
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do all zigbee wallpowered devices increase my mesh network size ? have a cc2531 max 20 devices , but want to replace my wifi lights for zigbee ...

dry fossil
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Not all, no. Most.

austere patio
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I have a network with about 45 devices on a CC2531 right now

lime locust
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so an innr zigbee bulb or sonoff mini inwall switch will increase network

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230v devices are automatically routers ... ?

austere patio
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I think only a few exist that aren't

lime locust
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nice thanks !

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this will increase range as well i presume

austere patio
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Yes

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If they're placed accordingly

lime locust
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zigbee FTW

golden vessel
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in ZHA, is there any difference between doing Group Binding trough the Device interface, or adding a device to a group trough the Groups UI?

amber gull
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Yes ๐Ÿ˜€

golden vessel
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tell me more @amber gull ๐Ÿค”

amber gull
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๏ฟผ๏ฟผ at the protocol level that's a fundamental difference between binding and group membership๏ฟผ

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Binding instructs the device to send cluster commands to the bound device or group

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Group membership for devices will vary by implemention

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So perhaps a remote may default to sending commands to its own group, but I don't believe that's defined as a protocol default or recommendation๏ฟผ

golden vessel
amber gull
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No. Out to in, typically. One way

golden vessel
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for example, I binded the LightLink cluster of a Lightbulb to the group 0x0 (which is the one IKEA remotes send commands to), and it made the remove control the light

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so the light is receiving commands from the bound group

amber gull
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๐Ÿง

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That is not the way ๐Ÿ˜

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But yes, that would work

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Depending on stack implemention. You are using it in reverse of the designed intent imho

golden vessel
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but, if it should only be for for device -> group, who's on the receiving end?

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devices that are member of the group?

amber gull
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Yes.

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it's really designed for a direct virtual connection between a device and another device or group. typically when a single device needs to send information directly to a number of other devices

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So in your case it would probably be more efficient to just place the bulb in the group. splitting hairs though. but that is how the protocol is designed in my opinion.

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In your use case you are storing the information in the binding table of the bulb

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And that will be harder to manage ( much more so with ZHA ) Then the group membership

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there might be edge cases though where it could buy you something

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Binding lets you essentially filter by endpoint and cluster

golden vessel
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I was just testing it out and wanting to understand the difference between group binding and group membership. I don't really need it atm

amber gull
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Group membership equals broadcast frame is received am I a member of this group?๏ฟผ

golden vessel
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sรณ, the ideia is: receivers would be members of the group, and senders would be bound to the group?

amber gull
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Yes

golden vessel
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makes sense!

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what about direct device-device bindings?

amber gull
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They work the same way, just dst device is nwk of the single device. Dstadrrmode may be unicast

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in our home automation use cases, the main benefit here is the coordinator and automation engine don't need to be online

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Binding and even group membership you are also at mercy of the implementation

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Aqara wired switches for example, don't include out clusters to allow direct binding other lights ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

golden vessel
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I was also now trying to bind an Ikea remote to a bulb, but it doesn't seem to work

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I haven't checked the logs though

amber gull
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With debug you should see binding success

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No UI feedback or mgmt currently

golden vessel
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maybe they can only bind to a single thing? And since it is already bound to group 0x0, they won't bind to bulb?

amber gull
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That is true for some. I'd have to go look on IKEA. definitely true on the Phillips hue remotes

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IKEA is also a bit screwy as they are all ZLL groups under the hood

golden vessel
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yeah. but since I was testing it with an ikea bulb, it should be fine

dire night
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Hi guys, first time here for me. Something weird occured yesterday. Two of my motion sensors (Xiaomi Aqara) just stopped working in the same hour (at least, last message received was half an hour apart). They still said to have resp. 91 and 97 percent battery and 55 and 105 linkquality. I didn't buy or install them at the same time. Also wasn't working on HA at that moment.. I have other Zigbee devices, working just fine (they are not motion sensors, but door sensors..) I'm using Zigbee2MQTT. Someone that has any clue what might have happend, or where I could search next? It really puzzles me

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One of the motion sensors was already in use for about 2 years, the other one for about 1.5 yrs.

dry fossil
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Common issue with Aqara.

dire night
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Ah thanks, maybe it's just a glitch with Aqara then. Still, two at the same time losing connection, one is really close to my antenna, the other is a about 5 meters away.

dry fossil
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It doesn't matter. If they were both using that router and that router disappeared for a while, the Aqara ones might not recover.

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Other things are better at re-routing.

dire night
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Is there a way to easily reconnect them? Or should I go through the pairing process again?

dry fossil
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Just tap the button once and they'll try to reconnect. If that doesn't work, re-pair them.

golden vessel
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@amber gull just tried binding with the IKEA remote to IKEA light while sniffing traffic.
It replies with "GREAT SUCCESS!" to the bind command, binding clusters On/Off and LevelCtrl. But then it still only sends the broadcast messages as usual. No direct messages to the bulb. Also, when I unbind the bulb, the remote replies with NoEntry. So I guess they don't support it

amber gull
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Did you try shaking it?

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I know I have a few of the two buttons directly bound without issue -- which model are you using?

golden vessel
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shaking? Lol pressing yes

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its the two button one

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are you sure they are binding directly to bulb? or to group?

amber gull
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To a group, I believe

golden vessel
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ah

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that works

amber gull
golden vessel
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"and cannot be bound to a device" ok...

mighty river
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Sorry asking again but maybe now there is someone who knows how to re-add a device with zigbee2mqtt. The devices were force deleted by me. If I want to pair nothing happens. Removing the battery doesn't help. I force deleted three devices and all have the same problem.

sour shadow
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Check the Z2M log file to see what's going on

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Note that a force remove will only remove the device from the database. Until this device is factory reset, it will still hold the network encryption key and thus is still able to communicate over the network!

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So, factory reset it ๐Ÿ˜‰

mighty river
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How can I factory reset? Its an OSRAM smart plug, Aqara Window sensor and an Aqara movement sensor?

simple sentinel
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I would google each device. Sometimes the pairing instructions on the zigbee2mqtt supported devices page will be enough

mighty river
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okay thanks

golden vessel
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I think z2m docs have instructions for all those devices you mention @mighty river

rotund wave
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Hey folks, My Zigbee2mqtt stopped being able to connect to the mqtt server all of a sudden (I think with one of the latest kernel updates to HA). I can't seem to figure out where I am going wrong on here. I am using HA supervised on Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS. It was working... then about a week ago it stopped.

simple sentinel
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could your mosquitto have suddenly jumped to version 2. something?

rotund wave
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I.. don't know

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How do I check?

dry fossil
rotund wave
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Hey mono!

simple sentinel
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๐Ÿ˜„

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Not sure how things work in supervised though ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
There must be a version number somewhere?

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Addons? ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

rotund wave
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let me look

simple sentinel
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In any case, for me I ended up moving back to the last version of 1.6

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2.xx took out both my z2m and zwjs2m

rotund wave
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lovely.

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Let me look

old kernel
jolly narwhal
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@rotund wave also your installation method is unsupported, unless you are expecting breakage and you are a Linux and docker expert, you should migrate to a supported installation method

old kernel
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or to ask another way: what's the status of ZHA locks? Can you set key codes and such?

simple sentinel
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If you pulled a mosquitto docker image roughly 4 days ago then you are probably in the same boat as me

rotund wave
rotund wave
simple sentinel
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1.6.13 is sound

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Get that. Your configs will probably make it

rotund wave
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I need to figure out how to downgrade that, there's no mosquitto container, just zigbee2mqtt

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might be my problem

simple sentinel
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Well, that might be a different can of worms, then

rotund wave
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Just going to roll over and give up.

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and get supported hardware ๐Ÿ˜‰

rotund wave
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Moving to container install. Any good setup docs for getting zigbee running on mac/docker?

analog ember
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Do aqara motion & contact sensors have a tempature sensor?!

wraith elm
golden vessel
wraith elm
austere patio
rotund wave
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Does anyone know how to get the device id for my cc2531 in os x?

austere patio
rotund wave
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/dev/ttyACM0 doesn't work.

austere patio
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Look at /dev/cu.usbmodem*

rotund wave
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using a known good cc2531

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I can see this /dev/cu.usbmodem14101

austere patio
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That's it

rotund wave
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ERROR: for zigbee2mqtt Cannot start service zigbee2mqtt: error gathering device information while adding custom device "/dev/cu.usbmodem14101": no such file or directory

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I kept getting this which is why I thougt it was busted

austere patio
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What are you trying to do?

rotund wave
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container for zigbee2mqtt

# 
    container_name: zigbee2mqtt
    image: koenkk/zigbee2mqtt:latest
    volumes:
      - ./data:/app/data
      - /run/udev:/run/udev:ro
    devices:
      - /dev/cu.usbmodem14101:/dev/ttyACM0
    restart: always
    network_mode: host
    privileged: true
    environment:
      - TZ=America/Chicago```
austere patio
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Does Docker run on macOS?

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I thought it runs a virtual machine

rotund wave
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oh yes, very well

austere patio
rotund wave
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curses!

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that bites

austere patio
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It's not that hard to run non-containerized (and virtualized? in this case)

rotund wave
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You mean zigbee2mqtt or HA?

austere patio
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Z2M runs fine. HA has some Linux-centric stuff but for the most part also runs fine, dunno about all the components though

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ZHA at least does

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Like serial port autodetection in ZHA relies on /dev/serial/by-id/ existing, so it'll instead just show you a dropdown of serial ports instead of finding the correct one

rotund wave
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so, it runs, but I can't share the usb dongle to control things?

austere patio
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It can natively on macOS, if that's what you're asking

rotund wave
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I guess I am a bit confused as to why there's a docker version if you can't run a usb device

old kernel
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you can pass usb down to a container on anything but mac os pretty much

rotund wave
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ah, os related

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lovely.

austere patio
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I think the limitation is only present in Docker Desktop, which runs a VM

old kernel
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you can even dump docker desktop and install the old docker machine subsystem and get it back

austere patio
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Yeah, that I think used VirtualBox, which definitely supports USB passthrough

old kernel
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yep

rotund wave
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is that supported by docker?

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trying to find an install that doesn't require docker desktop

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uuuuuugh.

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why we gotta make things complicated?

austere patio
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You could run this all in a Linux VM and run docker inside that VM?

rotund wave
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I'm going to see if I can just install docker CE on here using homebrew

austere patio
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Or dump all this container nonsense and run HA and Z2M on bare macOS for maximum instability

rotund wave
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hahaha

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you had me til the last word, I thought you were insane

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ok scrapping docker desktop

mighty lava
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hey guys. After an auto supervisor upgrade (2021.02.5) , zha is not working properly anymore. It' was working halfway and after a couple of attempt and restart, most of the devices are still unresponsive. If I try to repair a bulb for example, seems successful but extremely slow and unable to control the bulb after this.

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I don't think this is related to zigpy as almost all my integrations are impacted. See timeouts for almost all of them

austere patio
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If SYS.Version.Req() fails then your radio hardware didn't respond to the first request

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Though it did send a startup indication

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Is your database huge or SD card failing?

mighty lava
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have an ssd

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this starts to happen just after this supervisor upgrade.

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and if you are talking about home-assistant_v2.db

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I did move it to test

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same issue

austere patio
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I'd enable debug logging for HA in that case. If everything is unresponsive then something might be affecting the event loop.

mighty lava
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timing is not the best, did order a tiny lenovo to host properly ha container and get rid of hassos to avoid exactly this type of situation

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beside that I get a lot of integrations that are timing out or in error, no obvious error messages there. Will turn again the debug for HA

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thanks puddy, will open an incident for the supervisor with all the logs. From forum and chat, see a couple of people in the exact same situation and no way to force a previous supervisor version, that's bad.

rotund wave
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OK so you can't NOT install docker desktop. wtf is this. Is there another dongle or something that works via... wifi or.. magic?

austere patio
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If you're using Z2M then you can only ask @molten linden if he has any more pre-production ethernet ones left

#

Can you not run a normal Linux environment within Virtualbox or something and then do all this docker stuff the normal way?

pallid stratus
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I have a Conbee II plugged directly into the back of my raspberry pi running HA OS. I am struggling to get connectivity to all of my zigbee devices (mainly aqara battery powered motion sensors and door sensors) and would like some advice.

  1. Do the aqara battery powered sensors extend the zigbee mesh or do I need a more powerful repeater?
  2. Is a USB extension cable recommended to get my Conbee II into a clear spot? If so, are there limitations on how long it can be? I have one that is 2 metres long.
    I am in a medium sized single level apartment and the devices are spread out across the apartment.
warped oxide
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  1. No and yes
  2. Yes, No, try it.
pallid stratus
warped oxide
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Yes, that's probably a good idea... yes, those will function as repeaters if they are mains powered

fallow sphinx
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hi i am trying to set up an automation using the naitive zigbee intergration (not zigbee2mqtt) and triggering on event fires. what is the best way to tell my devices appart? there are 3 apparently unique ids in each event data but what is the best one to use? device_ieee, unique_id or device_id?

sour shadow
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Well... device_ieee will never change, even if you remove and re-pair that device

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In theory device_id shouldn't either, but I've never tested

fallow sphinx
#

ok thanks

graceful canopy
#

I might ask here as it might be more relevant:

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I am trying to understand why the zigbee2mqtt addon is failing to create a socat device under /dev/ in the container. I would love some guidance, as I have been working on this for two days. Essentially the file system appears to be read only yet the socat device used to be created without issue.

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This is the error 2021/02/10 20:56:16 socat[503644] E unlink("/dev/ttyZ2M"): Read-only file system

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I have no lights at the moment and its getting dark ๐Ÿ˜ฆ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ‘น๐Ÿ˜จ๐Ÿ˜ญ Zigbee network has been down for 3 days.

rotund wave
sour shadow
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Docker in Linux is fine, Docker Desktop isn't

graceful canopy
#

hmmm.... looking at the socat logs I get: socat_signal(): finishing signal 15

golden vessel
graceful canopy
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@golden vessel USB passthrough issues resulting in Kernel Panics, also I was using this solution for the last 6 monthes without issue

golden vessel
#

if you have kernel panics from usb passthrough, probably you have usb issues in your machine...

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and that is probably related to your new issues using socat

graceful canopy
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I don't think it is related, I tried socat on a raspberry pi as well, the issue seems to be in the addon. I believe the addon has been reconfigured to make /dev read-only preventing the instantiation of the serial device.

golden vessel
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create the socat device in /tmp instead. it should be writeable

opaque thicket
#

Good morning! I am seeing conflicting reports on using ZHA_Map custom integration, with some mentions of it being implemented directly in HASS in version 1.0? I am on the latest version (2021.2.2) and don't see it mentioned anywhere?

Nevermind, I'm just dumb, it's in the configuration area for the integration.

rotund wave
graceful canopy
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@golden vessel Thanks that works, currently the default configuration uses /dev. I have amended the github issue, as it should be pointing to a writable location by default. (It seems /dev was made read-only in an update and this was overlooked or for some reason a configuration change occurred). Thanks for the advice, everything is working as expected now ๐Ÿ˜

#

@golden vessel I make it a habit to contribute when people help me, which would you prefer I support:
Electronic Frontier Foundation, Transparency International or All Together Now?

opaque thicket
#

Is ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT the preferred method for zigbee devices? My concern with ZHA is that if I shut down HASS or the server it's running on, stuff will stop working (though that is the case with my motion sensors already, I'm concerned about moving my Hue lights).

golden vessel
golden vessel
graceful canopy
opaque thicket
golden vessel
opaque thicket
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Really depends on the day and how much tinkering I'm doing on either HA or the server hardware it's running on, though I would say it's probably up 90-95% of the time.

I'll have to look into the remote idea. The hue remotes can't talk to groups of lights?

golden vessel
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don't you have any kind of physical control over the lights? What if Hue server is unavailable or your internet goes down?

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I don't know about hue remotes. I've only tested ikea ones, and with those you need to:

  • create a zigbee group and add the light(s) to it
  • bind the remote to the group

They cannot bind directly to a single device.

opaque thicket
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No, I just use the analog light switches (apartment life or I'd update them), and relied on the bridge and/or home assistant for the motion sensors. The hue app and homekit connect directly to the bridge so the remote server or internet being down has never been a problem.

summer thicket
opaque thicket
summer thicket
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Not really, it ties everything else together. Google tts, Alexa and

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people trackers ect... and gives me a pretty interface.

opaque thicket
#

Fair enough

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I feel like the single point of failure is just moving from HA to the MQTT broker at that point, unless you can somehow set it up with high-availability or failover?

golden vessel
amber gull
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We cover this point in software architecture 101 @golden vessel

sour shadow
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This is home automation - the odds of somebody having a fully redundant setup, when the underlying protocols don't support it, are close to zero ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Doesn't mean folks can't do what Walt has done and made it robust though

grim egret
#

Hi just started using HA, and trying to get some lidl zigbee stuff connected. Got the lights working with deconz and the Phoscon app. But can not get the remote (https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Lidl_HG06323.html ) to show. Does anyone know how to connect it?

dry fossil
#

๐Ÿ”

golden vessel
amber gull
dry fossil
#

Yes?

final pivot
# opaque thicket Youโ€™re correct, nothing would work anyways. Maybe Iโ€™ll just move the motion sens...

Loss of power for longer periods of time can make some devices lose its connection completly so you might have to repair if zha route (aqara)... I used hue essentials with deconz before and was able to do many of the basic automations through the rest api so that if ha was down then the basic function would still work as it was not using HA.... that's why hue works well for people, you set it and forget it where HA you are going to mess around as you learn

brittle current
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Question, I dont know much about zigbee, but I do know you have to register a device to a hub when it is installed (SmartThings, etc). I finally got Raspbee and deconz working, but it doesnt ever see anything. To get all my lights and switches into HA without going through SmartThings, will I have to remove the light from SmartThings (via the remove tool) before it can be added or seen with deconz? I currently have Philips Hue and SmartThings hubs along with the newly installed Home Assistant. I also use Alexa a lot to control the SmartThings lights. Is it best in the long run to try and move everything possible over to HA and ditch the other hubs?

final pivot
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No

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Supervisor, integration, + button then search for deconz

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It should detect your conbee automatically

brittle current
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I have deconz installed and running, it does (after messing with boot config) see the raspbee. I see the "Controller" on the deconz webpage. I guess I need to dig a little more into it to see where I go from there. I was just expecting to see other devices seen.

opaque thicket
ivory hound
old kernel
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not to be too spammy, but just checking in, anyone who's around today happen to use zigbee locks with HA? Trying to get an idea of where things are at, beyond the varied forum posts

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And, if it is in the same place it was before, who are the ZHA devs I'd need to talk to for understanding their workflow if I want to build new functionality for it?

amber gull
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I've seen the lock support in zigpy and ZHA, though I've never dug in or gone looking through it any detail @alpine cipher

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I know the Wyze lock and the Yale locks, and I believe a few others (?) all work fine

old kernel
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The lock I bought isn't listed, but a similar one is, so might just need to poke at quirks if it doesn't work out of the box.
Setting user codes and alert events appear to be only supported by the underlying subsystem (zigpy) and not the front end, so i might work on adding frontend support there

amber gull
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That would be great

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Long term plan is to expose many of the underlying zigpy functions/settings into the frontend

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There are some recent architectures discussions on trying to unify some of the underlying APIs of the various integrations as well

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And not directly lock related, but a lot of the IAS stuff still needs to be fully fleshed out in ZHA

old kernel
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IAS?

amber gull
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Intrusion Alarm System -- support for keypads, fire, smoke, tec

old kernel
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ah, yep

fervent tiger
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Anyone experience with Loratap 3-button Zigbee remote control?

https://www.loratap.com/products/tuya-smart-life-zigbee-smart-home-wireless-switch-3-gangs-remote-tuya-zigbee-hub-required-no-limit-to-control-home-device

I have the Slaesh's CC2652RB stick with Zigbee2MQTT. I have already many Zigbee devices connected so I know to enable the pairing feature and activated the pairing on the remote but nothing happens. Tried touchlink method but nothing detected. I checked the Zigbee2MQTT logs but no entries for any new device. Any idea how to solve this?

old kernel
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did you make an offering to the gods of Zig and Bee?

fervent tiger
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Lol, off course

old kernel
#

that seems to help with my mesh

fervent tiger
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My knies are still painfull ๐Ÿ˜‰

old kernel
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(I'm on ZHA because z2m kept doing weird things, so i don't have any useful ideas)

fervent tiger
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Haven't got weird things till some minutes ago... Hopefully someone can chase me in the right direction

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Anyway, if for some reason z2m seems unstable, I can flash the USB stick and go for ZHA

gentle fern
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Anyone else got any aqara wireless switches? Have you noticed that if you hold the dimmer for more than about 2-3 seconds it doesn't send a reset?

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Opple. That's what they're called

fervent tiger
gentle fern
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In general these switches are awesome. But I'm having to manually simulate a button release event in order to stop dimming, and it's not ideal

last pawn
#

Hi beauties ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™€๏ธ
I just got my first zigbee device (ConBee II) and wanted to add some IKEA buttons. https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Ikea_E1743.html
Here it says. Supports: Battery, brightness and click.
But when I add it in Zigbee Home Automation it seems to just give me battery status. Am I missing something?

sour shadow
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Click is likely an event/device trigger

last pawn
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Yeah, just read something similar on the forum.

sour shadow
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It may also be that ZHA doesn't support "brightness"

last pawn
#

Ah found something.

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Developer tools > Events > star listening for zha_events

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neat

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works

golden vessel
last pawn
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@golden vessel When I go to new automation, select the IKEA device, there is only battery level in the trigger dropdown

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at least for the on/off and shortcut button. Let me try the THICC boi button device

golden vessel
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I can't send screenshot here, but my Ikea on/off remote has a lot of options like turn on/off, dimm up/down, etc

last pawn
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And you use ZHA?

obsidian sandalBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Command '~images' was invoked by: Tinkerer
last pawn
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I found some blueprint. Which makes it easier

golden vessel
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@sour shadow thanks. But I'm on mobile and don't really want to install the app ๐Ÿ˜€

sour shadow
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So use something else

golden vessel
sour shadow
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I don't get the whole I can't use that one site so I must complain to you about it

golden vessel
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Where did I complain? Lol

sour shadow
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๐Ÿ˜‰

last pawn
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He said "thanks"

sour shadow
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Well, yes, followed by too hard

last pawn
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Yeah

golden vessel
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That's called "replying". Not complaining

last pawn
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@golden vessel From reading other comments on forum it seems it's quite normal

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I don't know if my device has quirks

golden vessel
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Check on the top left info, on the Device page

last pawn
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"Quirk: zhaquirks.ikea.fivebtnremotezha.IkeaTradfriRemote"

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what is a quirk?

golden vessel
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Good. It's a "patch" so that devices that are not fully compliant with the Zigbee spec work on ZHA

#

What about the on/off one? Also has quirk?

last pawn
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Yes. Quirk: zhaquirks.ikea.twobtnremote.IkeaTradfriRemote2Btn

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And they work fine. There is just no stuff under trigger

golden vessel
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Same as mine. I think it should show you a bunch of Triggers

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Are you using the latest HA?

last pawn
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Latest stable docker.

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Might be because of what zigbee bridge device I'm using. Not 100% sure. As I'm new to zigbee

scarlet oyster
#

Hi, is someone else besides me running AH in a virtualbox VM and has problems connecting the zigbee stick to the HA instance in the VM after updating the HA OS? Each time I connect the adapter to the VM serial port, the VM will not start anymore.

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While this seems to be a Virtualbox problem, I wonder if more people experience this.

golden vessel
last pawn
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oh yeah, they show up

golden vessel
#

so they should show up in the "new automation" page. can you share a screenshot?

last pawn
#

Oh, but nothing shows up on the ikea shortcut button.

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ah, yeah so the large ikea remote seems to have the triggers

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But ikea shortcut and ikea on / off don't

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Oh, on /off has them as well ๐Ÿค”

golden vessel
#

๐Ÿ˜’

last pawn
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Why did I not see that before. Weird.

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shortcut might be too new

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Wow, blueprints are awesome. First time for me using them.

river night
#

what's the best zigbee/zwave usb dongle for home Assistant? Husbzb-1? zooz s2?

amber gull
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The greatest zigbee stick is yet to be released ๐Ÿ˜œ

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Husbzb-1 is perfectly fine but long in the tooth. I would buy a cc2652 or EFR32 based zigbee stick, and a 700(?) series z-wave stick

river night
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the zooz 700?

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Are those two better than the conbee 2?

amber gull
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I personally think so, yes. Conbee 2 is the most compatible stick but also the quirkiest

river night
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Ah gotcha. I know very little about the sticks.. just trying to get rid of smarthings hub

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Do they have a cc2652 or EFR32 based zigbee stick on Amazon? I only see these really:

amber gull
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Where are you located?

river night
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USA

amber gull
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Texas Instruments adapters ship from there states quickly

river night
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Those look like boards, more than dongles

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Which one do you mean

amber gull
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They are dev kits, yes.

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Elelabs is good for EFR32s

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But that is ZHA only

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Zzh/slaesh sticks are 2652s but ship from Europe

river night
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Oh okay, thanks

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Just thought the dev kit wouldn't be as good without an external antenna

amber gull
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The trace antenna on the 1352 is great

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@molten linden is building and selling 2652 hubs and efr32 bubs/sticks in the states

gentle fern
#

Hi all. Are any of you running node red as well and if so how do you deal with your button presses? Do you have device triggers set up? If so, any examples?

gritty frigate
obsidian sandalBOT
#

@gritty frigate Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

  1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
  2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
  3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
  4. What's the exact error message?
  5. When did it arise?
  6. What exactly don't you "get"?
  7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?
Command '.ask' was invoked by: mono
gritty frigate
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Oh - there is nothing wrong with this, just evaluating whether it's worth purchasing for somfy motorized blinds and connect within the motor housing

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What I'm looking for is someone who may have this to get some experience on how difficult it is to connect & install, hook up via ZHA or z2m

sour shadow
gentle fern
sour shadow
gentle fern
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Indeed. So should there be a specific channel for people using both node red and zha?

sour shadow
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Nah, more that you're asking about how folks using NR do a specific thing, so you're more likely to get that answered over there, than here

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There's nothing magic about Zigbee when it comes to that

gentle fern
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I suppose I was wondering about device triggers triggering something other than directly triggering a light to go on or off

obsidian bison
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so I have an aqara switch that seems to be bound to two lights, and I'm trying to unbound it
not much luck with the zigbee2mqtt webapp so far

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interesting thing is I haven't setup binding manually, somehow they got bound during setup

#

for switches I just set up HA automations
most of them just do a light.toggle

# 
- alias: Automation Remote T213-1
  trigger:
          platform: state
          entity_id: sensor.t213_action
          to: button_1_single
  action:
          service: light.toggle
          entity_id: light.bedroom_2
fervent tiger
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Have cc2652 USB stick with 7 paired devices to zigbee2mqtt. I'd like to pair another device but nothing happens. What is the best way to debug? Nothings comes in the log. Is it possible to read the serial data on the USB port were the CC2652 USB stick is connected? Which software to use?

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By the way the USB stick is physically connected to a MAC Mini, where I run Virtual Machine with Debian64 for HA

obsidian bison
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I had that before with z2m and it magically started working after re-flashing the stick ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

fervent tiger
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I checked and there was an update some days ago. Will give it a try. Thanks for the tip @obsidian bison!

fervent tiger
obsidian bison
#

no, I had a cheapie Chinese stick, just saying

fervent tiger
#

And used koenkk his respository, I suppose. I downloaded the zip file and extracted to get the hex file but how to flash it in the CC2652 chip?

golden vessel
golden vessel
nova snow
#

Hello everyone, I am just starting with hass.io and I am wondering what the best installation would be for a hass.io w/ zigbee2mqtt setup.
I would like to install home assistant on a RPi 3B+.

The documentation recommends either the Docker or Home Assistant OS install.
I would like to keep my pi available for runnning other stuff as well.
Would a docker container be the way to go?

sour shadow
obsidian sandalBOT
#

Hass.io was the old name for the appliance like install option, that uses Docker. It is now simply called Home Assistant OS (see #330990055533576204).

Command '~hassio' was invoked by: Tinkerer
nova snow
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Oh, I think I would like to be able to use those as I am more of a tinkerer.

sour shadow
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They buy another Pi ๐Ÿ˜‰

nova snow
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So Home Assistant core or Home Assistant supervisor should be the way to go?

sour shadow
#

๐Ÿคฃ

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No

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#330944238910963714 is here be dragons and you really should read the message in the channel topic there

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From what you said, it doesn't sound like you want that

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#551864459891703809 is for people happy to build software from source and troubleshoot obscure build errors

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Every December you get to manually compile and install Python so you can rebuild your venv

nova snow
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Okay, thank you! I think I will read the docs more thouroughly before deciding between Docker or core.

thorny phoenix
#

lqi scale....56 is ok ?

sour shadow
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If it's stable enough, yes

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0 is dead and 254 is perfect (or the reporting is broken)

thorny phoenix
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254...oh...maybe i can add some antenna for my cc2538

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only 110 for a bulb

sour shadow
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I see values from around 20 to around 174...

thorny phoenix
#

and 20 is ok..it communicates well with mqtt?

violet dagger
#

lqi is a scam

sour shadow
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My experience is that stable matters as much as anything else

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But, if it works, don't sweat the numbers

amber gull
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I don't think the manufacturers really cares about LQI. implementation varies. I like the old school SiLabs implementation where it was basically BER so you could see how reliable the link was

honest salmon
#

hi, my zigbee hub (Sonoff bridge with tasmota) stoped to work after upgrade to 2021.2.2. Anyone with the similar problem ?

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The hub is up and running , but it disappear from the HASS and all my zigbee devices are offline

golden vessel
molten linden
honest salmon
#

nope

honest salmon
molten linden
#

what does your log say, zha should have an error

honest salmon
#

i did try to delete integration and add again and now it can't find the socket

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backlog rule1 on system#boot do TCPStart 8888 endon ; rule1 1 ; template {"NAME":"Sonoff ZHABridge","GPIO":[56,208,0,209,59,58,0,0,0,0,0,0,17],"FLAG":0,"BASE":18} ; module 0

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i put this again in my zigbee bridge and did reboot

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but port 8888 is still closed

molten linden
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if it can't see the socket it can't talk to the hub

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I suck at tasmota

nova snow
#

I am trying to set up this stick https://slae.sh/projects/cc2652/#zigbee2mqtt with the zigbee2mqtt docker container, but keep getting an error when running the following command

docker run    -it    -v $(pwd)/data:/app/data    
--device=/dev/serial/by-id/usb-...-port0
-e TZ=Europe/Brussels
-v /run/udev:/run/udev:ro   --privileged=true
koenkk/zigbee2mqtt
#

Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0'

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Running ls -l /dev/serial-by-id/usb-...-port0 outputs ../../ttyUSB0

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How do I make the docker image use the correct port?

austere patio
nova snow
#

Yea, I omitted the name for brevity. Turns out I simply had to reboot

#

I also adjusted the configuration.yaml, but I guess the --device flag overrides it?

amber gull
#

Device mapping in docker makes the tty available or not available to the container -- so your destination map will always need to match what you have set in configuration.yaml

nova snow
#

Thank you, they are matching ๐Ÿ™‚

nova snow
#

Okay, so I got zigbee2mqtt and HA up and running, how do I add Zigbee devices from HA now?

shut pagoda
nova snow
#

Thank you!

shut pagoda
# nova snow Thank you!

Np, i am assuming your sensors are already visible somewhere on the MQTT broker so you can then copypaste the exact topics to your configs. I'd suppose further questions on the subject falls to #integrations-archived channel

amber gull
nova snow
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Yes, a device popped up in my configuration.yaml

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Is that where I should look for them?

gritty frigate
#

I've got this Philips Hue motion sensor that drops off ZHA (ZZH stick) every 3-5 days or so. The symptom is hard to explain: the device goes into "unknown" state, then comes back with a reading, and gets stuck in that. For example: continuous motion is reported in the past 3 hours.

#

rebooting the device (battery out > in) doesn't help. Removing & adding it back onto ZHA will provide one single reading and get back to that state again for some reason

#

resetting the device completely and re-adding solves it, but weird that one would have to do that every X days

#

I've got a bunch of debug logs on it this time (great thing that I can build an automation to grab the logs and notify when the device drops off, lol) - but I'd like to ask for some guidance on what exactly to look for

#

I've got a snip of 2 minutes where this exactly happens, and I'm seeing the last time there's been entry, and the first time when it gone wild

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there's like 1300 lines of log between those two ๐Ÿฅณ

amber gull
#

Ehh, that's not the thread I was looking for -- saw other people with more details in a issue or another thread

#

Post the 1300 line logs and I'll scan through it for you

gritty frigate
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oh great, thanks - let me filter out the totally unnecessary stuff (like the ping sensor not finding hosts, blah blah that's irrelevant) save 30%

#

I'm seeing quite some of "2021-02-11 17:14:32 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] Request failed (Unsuccessful request status code: <Status.NWK_NO_ROUTE: 205>), retry attempt 2 of 5" that's quite suspicious

amber gull
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Yeah, it's already dead at the point

#

look for prior srcrtg to see routing path

gritty frigate
#

yep, trying to reach out but can't

fervent tiger
#

Anyone experience with updating firmware on TI CC2652 Zigbee USB stick?

gritty frigate
amber gull
#

0x60E is NWK?

gritty frigate
#

I think it used to be ๐Ÿ˜„

#

this is the entity_id: binary_sensor.philips_sml001_test_occupancy

#

And interestingly I can't see network info for the ZZH stick

amber gull
# 
2021-02-11 17:14:16 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.api] Received command: ZDO.LeaveInd.Callback(NWK=0x60E5, IEEE=00:17:88:01:06:f7:d6:27, Request=<Bool.false: 0>, Remove=<Bool.false: 0>, Rejoin=<Bool.false: 0>)
2021-02-11 17:14:16 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] ZDO device left: ZDO.LeaveInd.Callback(NWK=0x60E5, IEEE=00:17:88:01:06:f7:d6:27, Request=<Bool.false: 0>, Remove=<Bool.false: 0>, Rejoin=<Bool.false: 0>)
2021-02-11 17:14:16 INFO (MainThread) [zigpy.application] Device 0x60e5 (00:17:88:01:06:f7:d6:27) left the network
#

Comes back online and leaves a few seconds later -- callback so it actually received a zdo leave

gritty frigate
#

"left the network"

#

that's exactly that I can see from the sensor readings

#

goes dark, comes back, single reading, gone

amber gull
#

I believe I have seen the same issue somewhere else... maybe in a open issue somewhere....

gritty frigate
amber gull
#

doesn't look like anything to me, so yes -- normal

gritty frigate
#

I mean: is it normal for a coordinator to have Nwk: 0x0000?

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that's supposed to be the ZZH stick if I'm not mistaken

amber gull
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Yes, 0x000 is always the coordinator

gritty frigate
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IEEE 00:17:88:01:06:f7:d6:27 it is, that's the one

austere patio
nova snow
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My HA is not properly detecting my Zigbee dongle I get an error Failed to probe ZNP radio with config {'path': ...

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(My Zigbee2Mttq is working)

austere patio
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Are you using both Zigbee2MQTT and ZHA?

nova snow
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Sorry, not sure what you mean by ZHA

austere patio
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Are you using Zigbee2MQTT?

nova snow
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Yes

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It is running and detecting events

austere patio
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Failed to probe ZNP radio with config is generated only when you try to add the Zigbee Home Automation integration

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Which takes exclusive control of the stick

nova snow
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Oh,

austere patio
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You can't use both Zigbee2MQTT and ZHA

nova snow
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so I do not need any integrations?

austere patio
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You gotta pick either Z2M or ZHA. Can't have both trying to control the same stick.

nova snow
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Okay, but how do I get my Zigbee2Mqtt devices in HA?\

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I don't find the Zigbee device in HA

austere patio
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That I don't know, I don't use Z2M

nova snow
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Oh, okay

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Thanks

sour shadow
nova snow
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I added the MQTT integration and now I can find the device

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Is that how it is supposed to be done?

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I haven't seen the MQTT integration being mentioned anywhere in the docs

dry fossil
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You need to enable MQTT autodiscovery, so yes...

sour shadow
dry fossil
sour shadow
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But you also need an MQTT broker, like mosquitto

nova snow
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Everything is working now ๐Ÿ™‚ thanks guys.

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I have mosquito running as a service, will look into dockerizing it in the near future ๐Ÿ˜‰

fallow warren
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how do i find out what turns my lights off

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multiple of my lights just truning of :S

sour shadow
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Same as always, look at the Logbook

fallow warren
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yes i see its turned off but not why

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living room room turned of by bathroom

sour shadow
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You can click on Bathroom to look at that automation/script/whatever

fallow warren
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its a light

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so it looks like a light turns of another light

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ok i see gota try do ad these to loig

subtle portal
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Apologies if already said, Lidl in England have their smart home range out again in the tat aisles 21st Feb. Ooh the zigbee ๐Ÿ™‚

final pivot
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Ikea ones can be better choise due to the thickness of the lidls in some instants however

dry fossil
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thickness of the lidls
Are you talking about the products or their clientele?

final pivot
#

Asda is worse my friend

hazy cosmos
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The devices on my sonoff zigbee bridge seem to be disconnecting after a day or two. How can I debug this?
using HA + ZHA + Tasmota and a SNZB-02/SNZB-03

final pivot
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are they far from the bridge? are you pairing near and taking further away?

hazy cosmos
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Im don't move them. They are arguably a bit far but they manage to pair fine when I reset them (and work fine for a day or two).

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by far I mean 3-4 concrete walls away. In liniar distance it's not far at all

sour shadow
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That's very far in RF terms ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Two concrete walls is typically pushing your luck

hazy cosmos
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would that explain why it disconnects even though it initially works for a day or two?

sour shadow
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Yes

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The problem is that the signal is going to be marginal. Initially you get lucky, and then your luck runs out

hazy cosmos
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Interesting - I would have though if it connects, it would continue to work (even if only intermitently)

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I've moved the base, lets see what happens.

#

Any recomendations for a repeater?

sour shadow
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Well, depends on where you live on the planet ๐Ÿ˜‰

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However anything mains powered will do, other than some two wire dimmers and some lightbulbs

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So, buy any Zigbee plug, or a dedicated router if you really want

hazy cosmos
#

switching back to singel straingth a sec. Is RSSI: -83 good?

sour shadow
#

That seems to be quite low

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Higher values (nearer zero) are good

hazy cosmos
#

hmm - really going to need repeaters then โ˜น๏ธ

sour shadow
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The scale is 0 to -100

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From a quick search:

Anything at -80 and below ( meaning -85, -90, etc.) is mostly noise and you risk losing messages

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Generally, anything -60 and above ( meaning -50, -40, etc.) would be considered a very strong signal.

hazy cosmos
sour shadow
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They're fine

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Small generally means they won't have awesome antennas, but you can stick one after each wall ๐Ÿ˜„

hazy cosmos
#

shame cant have multiple controllers. They are cheaper and can use wifi as a bridge

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recomends for something else? Google isn't showing much for "zigbee routers"

violet dagger
sour shadow
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Routers are the things that route traffic - some call them repeaters, but that's not their name

violet dagger
#

or just get some plugs

sour shadow
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You can then also automate other things with them ๐Ÿ˜„

hazy cosmos
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Haven't seen many Type H plugs, but will take a closer look

hazy cosmos
sour shadow
#

WiFi .... ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿคข ๐Ÿ˜›

#

Type H outlets also accept Euro plugs
If that's true (I have no idea) then that may be an option for you

violet dagger
#

yikes type h...

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there's always inline modules like sonoff mini

hazy cosmos
#

I'd hardwire the mini's just to act as repeaters

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The irony of pluging in repeaters to support wireless devices is that I'd prefer a plugin sensor to begin with! ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

gritty frigate
#

Greetings ๐Ÿ™‚ I'm reading that it's either zha or z2m and that decision has to be made. Would that still be the case with 2 separate zigbee dongles?

#

can I use ttyUSB0 as ZHA and ttyUSB1 for z2m?

violet dagger
#

no but then there's the question of why would you do that

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you can still have your devices paired to only one of them

gritty frigate
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oh that's easy: I've got a few things configured on ZHA - and I'm looking to play around with z2m without the need to break what's in place :>

#

a "transition period" would be the best answer

violet dagger
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you play all you like :D, i have 3 different dongles in action

gritty frigate
#

yep, that I would expect, sure

#

the question is there: why would you do that ๐Ÿ˜„

sour shadow
#

For fun

violet dagger
sour shadow
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I run two Z2M instances currently. The plan was to run one purely 3.0 and one purely 1.2, but right now it's more of a mess ๐Ÿ˜„

gritty frigate
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for fun is the best possible reason of them all ๐Ÿฅณ

violet dagger
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i also have one internal zigbee2tasmota network in testing ๐Ÿ˜„

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my house is wifi polluted af

gritty frigate
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not wearing a foil hat tho I'm hoping :>

#

for the zigbee compatibility matrix there: is missing compatibility flag meaning: not compatible, or "unknown"?

gentle idol
#

Struggling to set up cc-tool to flash cc2531 on ubuntu 20.04. Even though I've installed recommended packages I'm getting this error: "configure: error: cannot find Boost headers version >= 1.39.0". Tried downloading boost manually and running ./configure --with-boost=/usr/local/boost_1_73_0 without luck. Any suggestions?

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Recommended packages include: libusb-1.0-0-dev, libboost-all-dev, autoconf, libtool

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Hm, installing g++ package solved it.

violet dagger
#

nothing is not compatible, it just depends when the gateway implements it

gritty frigate
#

(lol)

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I stil read that as "compatible with the gateway"

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I need to update my terms ๐Ÿ™‚

wind phoenix
#

Question; From time to time my lights doesn't respond. I have only Philips Hue and IKEA Trรฅdfri zigbee lights, some are grouped in deCONZ as groups, but from time to time (several times a week), when trying to turn on/off lights, Home Assistant reports the following:

[139763465325728] /groups/1/action Not connected
2:17:35 PM โ€“ Home Assistant WebSocket API (ERROR) - message first occurred at 2:17:33 PM and shows up 2 times

Any idea why this happens and how to avoid it?

swift talon
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i had the same problem with deconz, i switched to ZHA and now it works

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is it possible to back up the entire zigbee network in the case of a full damage to the conbee 2?

wind phoenix
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Interesting, want to try the same. Everything works after restarting the deCONZ add-on

swift talon
amber gull
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Conbee not yet supported though โ˜น๏ธ

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If you are on deconz, I believe they have their own backup tool

swift talon
amber gull
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Right. Conbee backup not supported yet by ZHA/zigbee

swift talon
#

but the procedure is on a linux based machine right?

amber gull
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Anywhere that python runs for supported adapters

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FWIW, z2m and zha devs just finalized a common back up format and they would like deconz to join

swift talon
#

so it would be done in the HA integration?

golden vessel
#

Anyone using a Sonoff ZBMini? Any way to reduce/remove the delay when using the external switch?

golden vessel
#

I noticed that it has an endpoint like the legrand dimmer:

242: {
    PROFILE_ID: 41440,
    DEVICE_TYPE: 0x0061,
    INPUT_CLUSTERS: [],
    OUTPUT_CLUSTERS: [0x0021],
}
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could that cluster be useful for anything? It does not show up on ZHA currently, though

devout egret
#

How to remove device permanently? I remove the device from zgibe2mqtt and home assistant, but after restart zigbe2mqtt this device always back. I don't have this device anymore.

frank nexus
#

been having some strange issues with my Nortek controller. So I added my conbee I and I am pairing from scratch to ZHA
but on this go around, I can't get the centralite (iris v2) 3326-L to pair. Is this a limitation of the conbee? Or am I forgetting something?

amber gull
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pull battery out, hold down reset button, re-insert battery?

frank nexus
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ya, I've reset them several times

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they just won't pair

frank nexus
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after dozens of tries I did get one to be seen, but it won't finish the interview

#

another thing of note, the old EZSP device still shows up

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and cannot be removed

#

I see this frequently:
2021-02-12 10:17:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] Command Command.aps_data_request (20, 107, 0, <DeconzAddressEndpoint address_mode=2 address=0xF626 endpoint=1>, 260, 2820, 1, b'\x00j\x00\x0b\x05', 2, 0) 2021-02-12 10:17:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.uart] Send: 0x126e001b0014006b000226f6010401040b010500006a000b050200 2021-02-12 10:17:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.uart] Frame received: 0x126e0209000200226b 2021-02-12 10:17:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] 'aps_data_request' failure: Command.aps_data_request, status: Status.BUSY 2021-02-12 10:17:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.device] [0xf626] Delivery error for seq # 0x6a, on endpoint id 1 cluster 0x0b04: Couldn't enqueue send data request: Command.aps_data_request, status: Status.BUSY 2021-02-12 10:17:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] Command Command.aps_data_request (20, 108, 0, <DeconzAddressEndpoint address_mode=2 address=0xD063 endpoint=2>, 260, 1024, 1, b'\x188\x0b\n\x00', 2, 0) 2021-02-12 10:17:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.uart] Send: 0x126f001b0014006c000263d0020401000401050018380b0a000200 2021-02-12 10:17:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.uart] Frame received: 0x126f0209000200226c 2021-02-12 10:17:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] 'aps_data_request' failure: Command.aps_data_request, status: Status.BUSY 2021-02-12 10:17:06 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.device] [0xd063] Delivery error for seq # 0x38, on endpoint id 2 cluster 0x0400: Couldn't enqueue send data request: Command.aps_data_request, status: Status.BUSY

gritty frigate
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I managed to report it into a z2m thread somewhere that wasn't really the best place lol

austere patio
gritty frigate
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yes, that's what's happening

austere patio
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On its own though

gritty frigate
#

it leaves, gets back on, reports one single sensor data, and leaves again - and from this point on, it looks like that ZHA is not registering the device as left properly, but it gets stuck in the interface

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e.g. constantly detecting motion

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for as long as I dont remove, reset the device and add it back up again

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I thought the device was wrong or something, but it doesn't do that when connected to a Philips Hue HUb

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so that can't be it really

austere patio
#

Well the device itself seems to be indicating to the network that it is leaving

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It's not just dropping off the network

gritty frigate
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that makes sense, yeah

austere patio
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No idea why it would do that though

gritty frigate
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This is how it looks like:

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detected occupancy: 5:02:25 PM - 1 hour ago
became unavailable: 5:01:31 PM - 1 hour ago
detected occupancy: 5:01:27 PM - 1 hour ago

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and ever since 5:02 PM it's reporting constant occupancy

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well, by HA at least - while we know that the device left the network (whatever the reason is for that, but it did)

amber gull
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Yeah, I swear I saw a long thread with similar issues on this -- haven't been able to find it

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Any available FW updates?

gritty frigate
#

but that's z2m

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latest firmware on both the sensor and ZZH stick too

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I've had other devices doing similar in past, but those were addressed by the TI firmware update (memleak if brain serves)

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that left this single device dropping off (well, leaving to be more appropriate)

austere patio
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Could still be the same root cause

amber gull
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ahh yeah, that was the thread, thank you

austere patio
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Z2M and ZHA don't do anything fundamentally different when talking to the coordinator

amber gull
austere patio
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I think I have that added to znp

amber gull
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Yeah, you do -- doesn't seem like it should send ZDO leave on parent change either

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and also sounds like route eventually ages out and it recovers on it's own

gritty frigate
#

that's an interesting thread, thanks

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now there is something weird I've just noticed and haven't shared just yet

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when this happens, removing & readding the device in ZHA looks quite interesting

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(w/o reset, etc)

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"Sending 'zdo_leave_req' failed: "

gritty frigate
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"TheJulianJES commented on 6 Jan
Same issue also happens on ZHA (HomeAssistant) sometimes. So it doesn't look like it's a bug in either ZHA / Z2M."

mighty lava
gloomy pivot
#

so... using my lutron auroras bound directly to my sengled bulbs (via zigbee2mqtt) doesn't appear to actually update the light entity in HA. any ideas where I should look to hunt this down?

gritty frigate
frank nexus
spare ridge
#

I'm trying to do an backup->restore with bellows. Backup was done from sonoff bridge withou any problem. The new device is with same chip Elelabs usb pen (POPP ), Updated firmware on the pen, but bellows always give timeout. Any hint?

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found, problem with default baudrate

mighty river
#

I started my adventure with zigbee by using some pre-flashed CC2531 and Sonoff SNZB-04 as a door sensor. Overall it works but I've noticed that some times sensor becomes unavailable for some unknown reason. In last 24h it happened two times: once at 3:28 and it lasted until 7:29 when I opened the door and the second was at 19:07 until 20:02 where the door were opened. Is this some deep sleep that causes this? I noticed that there is some exception in log around that time: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZGdh8XcJvR/ Should I be worried?

gloomy pivot
#

and the state of my bulb never changes from zigbee2mqtt

mellow geode
#

I'm also running the latest firmware on my TI coordinator (the one with the lockup bug fixed).

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Still happens somtimes

#

However, the sensor usually doesn't become "unavailable"

#

Even when it has a long red blink, Home Assistant seems to have seen the sensor change to "occupied" for 10 seconds.

Edit: Now, I've just had the sensor lighting up red (occupying on Hass) and then not sending the clear event (even after 60 seconds).
"Activating" it again and that sent the clear fine.

austere patio
winter mist
#

My CC2652 seems to be unresponsive after a day or two of being plugged in, and needs to be powered cycled (unplug and plug back in). Is there something I need to update or is this expected?

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After a while zigbee2mqtt spits out SRSP - AF - dataRequest after 6000ms.

amber gull
austere patio
winter mist
#

I'm unsure where I can find the firmware for it.

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Ah never mind.

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Ah, this a bit of a process.

austere patio
#

For the CC2652?

winter mist
#

CC2652RB

austere patio
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It's just cc2538-bsl.py -p /dev/... -evw CC2652R_coordinator_20210120.hex

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If it's the RB then you don't need to do anything to put it into bootloader mode

winter mist
#

@austere patio Is there anything I need to do to maintain the list of connected zigbee devices, or is that stored elsewhere in flash?

austere patio
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If you're using Z2M I believe it does a backup

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But the -e in the command erases everything

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I think Z2M has a coordinator_backup.json file or something

winter mist
#

Using Zigbee2MQTT.

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@austere patio Thanks for your guidance.

obsidian sandalBOT
devout egret
#

How to remove device permanently? I remove the device from zgibe2mqtt and home assistant, but after restart zigbe2mqtt this device always back. I don't have this device anymore.

gloomy pivot
#

@devout egret make sure it's removed from ha and z2m's configs as well

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if that helps, not sure

devout egret
#

I removed this from devices.yaml and it back after restart zigbe2mqtt

gentle flint
amber gull
#

I have flashed this new one and it was responding

amber gull
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CONFIG_APS_UNICAST_MESSAGE_COUNT: 20
CONFIG_MAX_END_DEVICE_CHILDREN: 32
CONFIG_SOURCE_ROUTE_TABLE_SIZE: 200
CONFIG_ROUTE_TABLE_SIZE: 16
CONFIG_ADDRESS_TABLE_SIZE: 16

wooden topaz
#

when I setup ZHA, do I need to create this zigbee.db file? I'm running via Docker

austere patio
wooden topaz
austere patio
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Are you manually creating this docker container?

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If you add the Zigbee Home Automation component and pick a coordinator stick, everything else should "just work"

wooden topaz
#

I think it worked, thanks

mighty river
tribal idol
#

Hello everyone.
For Zigbee2MQTT would it work to use a coordinator of one kind (i.e. zzh! CC2652R) with a different type as coordinator(i.e. CC2531)?

dry fossil
#

You don't use two coordinators.

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The coordinator is the 'driver' of your network. Everything else is routers/nodes.

tribal idol
#

@dry fossil sorry, i meant router ๐Ÿ™‚

dry fossil
#

You can use pretty much anything on your network as routers. The network doesn't care.

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IKEA lightbulbs... wall switches...

tribal idol
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CC2652R coordinator and CC2531 as router

dry fossil
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Yep, that'll work.

tribal idol
#

understood, thank you

mighty river
#

Dear all,
How can I activate Heiman Siren?
I see it as light and is set to "area" that I called alarm.
I saw on page: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/deconz/
tat this device is supported.
I have ConBee II USB on HA.
Please help me...
Best regard,
Gordan Dinter

golden vessel
#

are there any known issues with pairing zigbee 3.0 sensors through Hue bulbs? (using the Add via this device button in ZHA)

fervent tiger
#

It seems you should be a pro to add an unsupported device but with the right push I should be able to do it. Do I have to start in the Debian 64 machine?

austere patio
#

According to Tindie, Slaesh's stick has been sold out since Dec 03 and the zzh has been sold out since Jan 19

molten linden
#

Shipping has be awful lately. I ordered additional esp32 Ethernet boards, they were shipping out at the end of January have been sitting at JFK for over a week according to tracking. Electrorama posted on Twitter the other day he had 35 kg of product waiting for a flight in China.

desert cloak
#

What is the correct procedure with zigbee2mqtt if device does not pair successfully? I usually remove both the incomplete devices from both configuration.yaml and database.db, but is this necessary or even right way of doing?

grand abyss
#

I notice a bit difference with using zigbee2mqtt vs going native trรฅdfri hub when using the 5 button control puck to dim/bright the lights, somewhat a kind of laggy vs smooth scaling, is this a known issue or did I fumble somewhere? Any recomended blueprint for automations? Perhapps I used a "bad" one?

desert cloak
#

Unless paired (also) directly with the bulbs on the same zigbee mesh?

orchid galleon
#

Anyone used the zigbee switches? I've got one that fires events, but no idea how to get it into an automation

obsidian sandalBOT
sour shadow
#

โ˜๏ธ has a key question ๐Ÿ˜‰

grand abyss
desert cloak
fervent tiger
#

Anyone who run HA OS was able to add an unsupported z2m device?

jolly narwhal
#

I've done it outside of haos

#

Shouldn't be different with access to file system

#

But I don't touch add-ons

old kernel
#

haos. like chaos without the crazy

jolly narwhal
#

To be fair, it should be renamed cHAOS

lament loom
#

Looking for automation for lumi.remote.b686opcn01, to set up multiple actions in one automation. For zigbee2mqtt, found only for ZHA

orchid elbow
#

hey, i noticed that battery only seems to get updated when home assistant restarts. is there a way to have this happen periodically?

#

at least, it's only sent to influx at startup

#

z-wave seem to update periodically without restarting HA

golden vessel
#

@orchid elbow that depends on the device, not HA

#

regarding influx, check the value in HA instead, to know if it is being updated only on startup?

orchid elbow
#

hrm, must be HA only logs it if there's a change rather than every time the device reports

golden vessel
#

Have you checked the history in HA instead of influx?

orchid elbow
#

yes, they match. i guess the issue is, HA only sends values if they change, which makes my battery graph empty if the timerange doesn't include the last datapoint

#

that doesn't appear to be the case for z-wave though. gotta check influx with a direct query i guess.

#

i get data points for 100% battery from z-wave outside of restarting HA

#

i have a hard time believing that all of my zigbee sensors only send a battery level reading when it changes

#

btw, no battery state changes seem to show up in logbook, and the history graph is pretty hard to discern individual data points. it just shows a flat line for weeks without any hoverable points

#

ok, there are datapoints in the HA history graph, but they correspond to restarts

amber gull
#

Could be bad bind @orchid elbow

orchid elbow
#

i've got an event listener up for "zha_event". will see if anything comes in

#

i suppose even if something is "deduplicating" the event should still send

amber gull
#

Should be attribute report? So won't trigger event?

#

Has to be subscribed though for proactive attribute reporting to work

orchid elbow
#

i get attribute updated events from an accelerometer (that is stationary)

#

we'll see

#

"command": "attribute_updated",

amber gull
#

Some devices get overwhelmed during pairing too and not all binds work

mighty river
#

Hey All, im not sure how to get started with ZHA's quirks and writing one for my devices. in particular i have tons of Tuya TS0505A and only on/off is working, zigbee2mqtt seems to fully support it. Would be someone interested in writing a quirk based off this - i'll sponsor it and would pay.

#

I would go for zigbee2mqtt if i would have a compatible gateway ๐Ÿ™‚ but im on tasmotized sonoff

pearl tapir
#

I'm suffering range issues w/ a cc2531 off alibaba using zigbee2mqtt. If my lights (EcoSmart A9A19A60WESDZ02) aren't a couple inches away from the 2531 they're not communicating at all.
Is my cc2531 a dud? Any debugging advice?

jolly narwhal
#

Cc2531 is horrible of you live in anything else than a 50m2 apartment with thin walls

#

And that is only if it has an antenna

pearl tapir
#

it doesn't work unless it's under 6 inches away though

#

that can't be normal

jolly narwhal
#

Sounds pretty normal without an antenna and no routers

sour shadow
#

I'd expect range of a dozen feet or so, maybe one wall

#

A few inches says you've either got a very noisy RF environment, or you bought a brick

jolly narwhal
#

My cc2531 refused to pair anything except if I was 35cm away before I got the first router

pearl tapir
#

I put it on a usb extension & moved it to a channel where there was low wifi traffic

jolly narwhal
#

At that point I just chucked it

sour shadow
#

With antenna I get decent range out of them. Without, not so much, but still enough for the next room - just

pearl tapir
#

ah well
ty both for confirming my concerns

jolly narwhal
#

The popular ones (zzh and slaesh) are usually out of stock @pearl tapir but the cc1352p2 has been solid for me and is always in stock

sour shadow
#

Yeah, the dev boards are larger, ugly, and always available ๐Ÿ˜„

jolly narwhal
#

Hey, don't call her ugly

#

She is a strong independent coordinator

mighty river
willow bronze
#

Is there a way to disable the magnetic??? physics in ZHA network visualization

dry fossil
#

Sure, just don't look at it.

#

You have two options for changing it... feature request (ask nicely on the forums) or pull request (do the code change yourself).

#

But calling someone else's hard work 'bloody annoying' is unlikely to go down well.

sour shadow
#

I only check the maps when I've added new devices - and at that a few days later to see how they've ended up connected

jolly narwhal
#

I only check the maps to show people how big my network is

#

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willow bronze
dry fossil
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No harm done, just be careful with the language you use - even if you're frustrated. And my initial thoughts would be that it can't be disabled anyway.

sour shadow
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If it could I'd expect an option in the UI

dry fossil
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Network graphs like that have to re-evaluate the connections over many, many iterations to come up with a stable representation. If they did it all before rendering anything, it would introduce quite a delay before you saw anything.

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With UI's, you generally want something rendered on screen as quickly as possible so users know something's happening. Maybe it could be hidden behind a 'loading screen' while it evaluates ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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All depends on whether the tools being used to render the network graph signals when it's done calculating it.

sour shadow
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There's one for Z-Wave that does a fixed mesh, but it scales poorly terribly

dry fossil
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Yeah, I think that's why most libraries do that weird iterative thing.

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Any weighted/network graph is going to be backed by algorithms... those algorithms take way more iterations than I care to think about ๐Ÿ˜„

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Simple stuff like bubble sort is bad enough when you have to do it by hand on large datasets.

sour shadow
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The "magnet" thing is the one I've most commonly seen for working with large dynamic datasets.

tropic depot
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It canโ€™t be disabled at the moment

dawn sable
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Has anyone ever seen a mains powered zigbee nightlight that also has a motion sensor? Iโ€™m kind of surprised they donโ€™t seem to exist as it would be super convenient way to solve two problems at once and also avoid adding yet more battery powered devices to my house.

viral bane
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Hey all, has anyone issues with the states of the ZHA devices in HA? I'm having some issues lately not sure if it was the January or February update, but states aren't shown of lights anymore (hue/ikea)

jolly bone
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Is it possible to change entity ID's for items in zigbee2mqttassistant? I can change friendly name which gets carried across to home assistant but my switches have ID's like switch. 837738999x00x for example..

sour shadow
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What version of Zigbee2MQTT?

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Any reason not to use the native UI?

viral bane
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I'm at the latest versions now, and on my toggle entity card I can put my light on, but state isn't set in HA. So can't get it off. When I use the More Info panel (with the switch) it can be put on/off cause that switch will go to the on state.

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Also nothing is shown in my logs. So the on/off trigger isn't show there. Automations are still working fine on motions, but also not setting states in HA

jolly bone
sour shadow
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Sure

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But, you didn't answer the questions

jolly bone
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Latest version of zigbee2mqtt also

obsidian sandalBOT
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'Latest' is not a version number. Please provide the actual version number.

Command '~latest' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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Any reason not to use the native UI?
shrug

jolly bone
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version:ย 1.17.1-1 zigbee2mqtt

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version:ย 0.3.157 zigbee2mqttassistant

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I can change the friendly name in zigbee2mqttassistant but is doesn't change the entity ID's in home assistant

sour shadow
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Maybe it's a bug in Z2MA

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Works for me when done via Z2M itself

jolly bone
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How?

sour shadow
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๐Ÿค”

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The question you keep ignoring is a big hint

jolly bone
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Found how now.. But it says in use

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I'll have a play

jolly bone
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Removed items added back changed in zigbee2mqtt selected save I'd to home assistant.. Job done.. Thanks for your help @sour shadow

austere patio
gentle flint
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Just submit a PR to make visualization params configurable bottom lovelace

molten linden
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@gentle flint yea I tried to get things in before the CNY, this is the one holding me up, and it made it out.. I don't know if it is caught in customs or what. https://imgur.com/a/5IVTVvR

ionic matrix
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I'm trying to reconnect some Philips Motion Sensors to Deconz /Phoscon after I deleted them due to inconnectivity. Now they just will not pair at all - what am I doing wrong? Do anyone have any tips?

runic pumice
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Did you enable join mode?

ionic matrix
edgy flume
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I have a Sonoff Bridge flashed with Tasmota and ZHA integration installed. I have a Sonoff button which I can see on listen to events 'zha_event'. I also have a Sonoff door sensor which I can see on the Tasmota console on the Sonoff Bridge but it it does not produce any events in the zha_event monitor.

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Does HA treat the door sensor differently ie it doesn't use zha_event even though it send messages through the same bridge as the button?

sour oak
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I have a Mi Magic Cube (new) linked to my Conbee II. I seem not to get the rotate left and right working. The rest of the actions seems to work fine. I have checked the device to connect to the MI app and it works fine. I am on Conbee version 2.9.3. If I look at the deconz_event I don't see any events.

mighty river
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@edgy flume for me it shows up as binary sensor with IAS zone

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Im not sure how to get started with ZHA's quirks and writing one for my devices. in particular i have tons of Tuya TS0505A and only on/off is working, zigbee2mqtt seems to fully support it. Would be someone interested in writing a quirk based off this - i'll sponsor it and would pay.

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Want to move it forward of course to also give back to the community.

sick flame
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Good Morning!
I assume updating my conbee2 to the newest firmware manually is a bad idea? ๐Ÿ˜„
HA doesnt find zigbee devices anymore.

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Dresden electronics recommends this firmware update for zha usage

wild moss
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Hi. Can someone tell me why my vibration sensor under deconz different and too high temperatures? They lie next to each other and my multisensor shows 23degree and the vibration 26/33/31/33.

cunning palm
sick flame
cunning palm
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What os are you using to upgrade? And how are you running deconz

sick flame
cunning palm
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Windows should be fine. May have to flash a few times to get it to take right from my experience. Or try a different version

jolly bone
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ZigBee2MQTT is showing an available update but when I click update the button goes red and update does not start

sour shadow
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Check the logs for your add-on

jolly bone
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I did.. It doesn't populate with anything new

sour shadow
winter mist
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I'm migrating away from using a Hue hub over to Zigbee2MQTT. I've noticed that the literal hue on the color where in HA where I click is offset slightly. Like when I click where I click for red I get more of a magenta from my Hue bulbs. Has anyone else hit something similar?

amber gull
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Hue said the hue of your hues is skewed?

dry fossil
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huehuehue

winter mist
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I have some Gledopto RGB+CCT LEDs that previously I had paired with my Hue hub, just moved them off over to Zigbee2MQTT. Most of these are recessed down lights but also a couple of LED strips. When I try to create a scene in the UI providing a value for color_temp through the slider the LED turns on the correct warm/cool LEDs and as far as I can tell switches off the RGB LED. However after I save the scene through the UI, the light switches off the warm/cool LEDs and then fires up the RGB LED to show what feels like the closest value on the color wheel.

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This is also the case for when I turn on the scene, it'll only turn on the RGB LED.

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If I edit the scene manually and remove hs_color, rgb_color, and xy_color, the scene turns on the correct CCT LED and not the RGB LED, however whenever the lights turn on they flicker before hitting the correct temp/brightness.

winter mist
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Ah ok, I should leave xy_color alone.

gentle fern
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If I remove and reinstall zha will I have to re-pair all my devices and set everything up again?

fallow warren
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I got some zigbee buttons that has to be paired close to the coordinator, so in my case the texas instruments CC2531. However this is in my shed, woould it be the same to pair it with a zigbee node with router functionality?

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Or cna I go to my shed, pair it then go back where i want it?

simple sentinel
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I've had devices where the instructions said to pair next to the coordinator but where I preferred to try next to where it was going to be used instead, for reasons.
It worked.

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If your mesh can handle it, you might as well give it a try

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or rather you will find out if your mesh can handle it

fallow warren
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Thanks, I thought so. Yea I have tried a lot but i think its more a problem with my device, its a stupid ikea button that when i click the pair button it also clicks the button

simple sentinel
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The other route is pair close to your coordinator, then press the range test button when you get back to where you want to use it

fallow warren
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aha

simple sentinel
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Ahh, I think that's basically the same as the button that ships with their window blinds

fallow warren
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yea i think so

simple sentinel
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I think I was able to pair it on location, but I am not sure

sour shadow
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Pairing in place is always the best thing to do, since the device then knows how to connect to the mesh. Some devices, like Xiaomi, won't reconnect if you move them out of range of the device they connected via

fallow warren
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yea i guess il find out once i figure out this piece of shit button

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thanks

wise sentinel
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Hey guys, my friend is planning to build a smart home using Home Assistant to my recommendation. We are planning on using Zigbee devices, which we obsivously need a hub for. I ve got the cheap CC2531 usb stick, which works quite well, but I wanna ask if there is something more simple to use which doesnt require flashing any firmware and would look nicer in the room than this ugly green antenna.

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Any recommendations? Are there any other universal zigbee hub devices?

sour shadow
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Well, depends on your choice of Zigbee integration...

wise sentinel
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What do you mean? We are planning on controlling devices from different manufacturers.

obsidian sandalBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are support. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended, but there are other options. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the Zig-Ah-Zig-Ah! and Slaesh's sticks being recommended. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

Command '.zigbee' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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โ˜๏ธ your choice of Zigbee integration ๐Ÿ˜‰

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If you're using zha you get one set of options, Zigbee2MQTT another, and deCONZ another again

wise sentinel
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atm I am using Zigbee2MQTT which works really well imo

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which one do you recommend?

sour shadow
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That one ๐Ÿ˜‰

simple sentinel
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To be blunt, tell your friend to get with the program.

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give me z2m or death