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grim igloo
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his main issue above is he seems to have aqara non zigbee 3.0 sensors fall off the network regularly but he has multiple repeaters including inovelli switches and some devices called peanut

warped rose
austere patio
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Can you enable debug logging, click the button again, and then disable it? You'll get a log with whatever error you're getting preventing it from downloading.

warped rose
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ok, just a min

grim igloo
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that's just a snippet of code

warped rose
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It's the debug log that downloads after doing what puddly asked

mellow geode
mellow geode
warped rose
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yes. enable debug for zha, attempt to download diagnostics (as in imgur screenshot), stop debug, pastebin log file

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Also, the devices that drop off are zigbee 3.0. The "peanut switches" are not zigbee 3.0

grim igloo
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no the e1 are the 3.0. the ones you linked on amazon are the old gen

mellow geode
warped rose
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ok, so WSDCGQ11LM is not 3.0? and WSDCGQ12LM is?

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I tried in chrome and then in Firefox when it didnt' work.

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(it still didn't work)

mellow geode
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Can you try the steps again and provide debug logs again?

forest cobalt
grim igloo
grim igloo
mellow geode
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Didn't read the whole conversation, what's the (Zigbee) model of the sensors that are dropping off?

grim igloo
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WSDCGQ11LM

mellow geode
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I mean the internal one that's the model attribute. Probably something like lumi.xxx. Shown on the ZHA device page.

mellow geode
grim igloo
forest cobalt
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lumi.weather

grim igloo
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lumi.deez is is really lumi.weather?

warped rose
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yes. lumi.weather

junior heart
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with z2m is there a way to disable the popup notifications?

forest cobalt
carmine hamlet
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the errors, warnings, and notifications that appear on the right side?

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I don't think you can

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you can change the logging level to "error" to prevent some of the less serious ones

forest cobalt
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Ahhhh those. Yeah, I hate them too.

carmine hamlet
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for what it's worth, I haven't seen any of those annoying errors after updating my CC2652-P7 coordinator to 20240315

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they used to flood the screen whenever I would switch to the Z2M browser tab

forest cobalt
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Yeahโ€ฆ still on my list of things to do.

carmine hamlet
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super easy if you have a PoE coordinator

warped rose
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So, is there anything I should be doing?

mellow geode
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Logs do not seem to be complete still, but you migrated from another coordinator to a SkyConnect, right?

warped rose
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To the built in skyconnect in HA Yellow. I'm fine with nuking the whole thing and starting afresh.

mellow geode
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The firmware should be upgraded if you want to keep the migrated network, from the logs:

NV3 interface not available in this firmware, please upgrade!

warped rose
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what is NV3, and is this the ezsp firmware?

mellow geode
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The IEEE of the coordinator can only be changed (multiple) times with newer firmware where the NV3 interface was added. And yes, it's EZSP firmware.
You get this error because you likely migrated once before already.

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It can cause issues with devices on your network.

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Otherwise, you can also start fresh by creating a new network with the "reconfigure radio" section and then let it form a new one.

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You'll need to re-pair your devices then.

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I'd still recommend upgrading the EZSP firmware at some point too though.

warped rose
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Yes, understood. How do I do the EZSP firmware upgrade?

mellow geode
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I think there's an add-on for the Home Assistant Yellow.

warped rose
junior heart
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i have a tubeszb-cc2652 poe, is there new firmware?

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i dont see new Zstack coordinator update?

warped rose
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Ok, I've installed the add-on, configured the tty port, stopped zha and started the flasher addon. I'll... see if it stops using 24% of the CPU I guess? I don't see any other kind of feedback/progress.

mellow geode
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There might be more info in the logs of the add-on. Should only take a minute or two. I just hope the default version is already new enough ๐Ÿ˜„

warped rose
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I refreshed the /info page for the addon and it had stopped, so I think it was successful? which log should I look at?

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Here's a new log after running the firmware updater, restarting ZHA, "migrating" radio to make a new network. It seems to have not required re-pairing??

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and. LOL, I remembered the obvious log location for add-ons.

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It seems it was on 6.10.3.0.297 and was flashed to 7.3.1.0.176

austere patio
warped rose
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Yes, I did find it eventually, and posted the addon log.

austere patio
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You also don't have to migrate after flashing. ZHA will do it for you (if your adapter requires it)

warped rose
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I was mostly just trying to "freshen it up" and avoid any problems from previous radio transition when I switched to a Yellow. (I expected to need to re-pair all devices after creating a new network, but that didn't happen)

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eh, I thought that didn't happen because I still see all the devices, but messages aren't getting delivered.

mellow geode
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Yeah, the devices in HA keep the same settings. You can just "Add Device" and then reset the devices and they'll rejoin the network and work again, keeping the old HA name/settings.

winged vessel
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How can I verify that the zigbee router devices on my zigbee network are creating a mesh network, and not just acting as endpoints/leaves? I'm using Zigbee2MQTT with sonoff z40 plugs. They are connectedt to my home assistant but I'm not convinced that they are forming a mesh, since some of farther devices are not consistently recieving broadcast commands

carmine hamlet
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You can look at the map

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But you can't control if/how messages are routed in the mesh

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You can choose which device you want to join each one to if you want

winged vessel
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Interesting. The map is extremeley helpful. Thanks!

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I'm still having one of the routers consistently drop and I can't figure out why

carmine hamlet
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It might suck

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If you have trouble with a specific device not receiving commands, join it to a specific device

winged vessel
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Hah, a distinct possibility. From the link quality it looks like it does suck. It's connected to 3 other routers but the highest link quality connection is only 50. I guess zigbee really doesn't go through walls well?

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I'm surprised because each of the routers are only about 10-15 feet away from each other. Thought it would work better than that

carmine hamlet
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It's in the GHz range, so not the best

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Interference isn't visible

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Perhaps you've chosen a crappy Zigbee channel

winged vessel
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Sounds like the only way to find out is to try chaning it and see what happens?

carmine hamlet
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Not at all

winged vessel
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Okay, last question. I have a bunch of gen1 and gen2 hue bulbs, but I lost the hub to reset them. I can't for the life of me get them to reset by using the 2s, 8s, 2s, 8s etc on/off reset pattern, nor have I been able to use touchlink to reset them. Is it possible that both processes would fail with all of them and the only way for me to actually reset them is with a new hub (or remote), or am I just fucking it up some how?

carmine hamlet
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No idea

winged vessel
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If I'm using Zigbee2MQTT and sengrid bulbs with normal lightswitches, is it possible to set things up in HA so that when the lightswitch is fliiped to "on" ---sending power the zigbee bulbs, they check to see what the settings should be before "turning on"? I'm trying to set it up so that depending on what time of day of it, the lights are different colors, but I'm trying to avoid having to buy a zillion new switches so that the bulbs are always powered on

warped rose
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I use zha, so I'm not too knowledgeable with z2m, but I think this should be doable with an automation that triggers on availability. I suspect it might be difficult to get it to work without some delay or flicker

languid egret
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Hi, i have a LELLKI power strip, (added with zigbee2mqqt). it worked well but recently I can no longer control it; I activate a switch and it deactivates after a few seconds. how can I see where the problem is coming from? thank you

sour shadow
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Sounds like you need to re-connect it to the mesh

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Availability will help you know when things fall off

languid egret
sour shadow
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You could have searched the Z2M docs for that term ๐Ÿ˜‰

forest cobalt
nocturne dome
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For some reason my ZigBee integration has stopped working overnight. I'm now getting the following error: No such device or address: '/dev/ttyACMO'

forest cobalt
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Try unplugging and plugging the stick back in. Are you using an extension cable?

nocturne dome
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I have tried unplugging and plugging it back in. I am not using an extension cable.

sour shadow
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Also, only use the /dev/serial/by-id/ path

nocturne dome
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How do I find this? Been a while since I've set it up.

forest cobalt
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Are you using HAOS?

nocturne dome
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Apparently just rebooting the entire system (not just HA) fixed it.

nocturne dome
sour shadow
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ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/
forest cobalt
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Ah, ok. You should still be passing in the /dev/serial/by-id path.

nocturne dome
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lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jun 10 13:48 usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_20231216140301-if00 -> ../../ttyACM0```
sour shadow
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  devices:
    - /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_20231216140301-if00:/dev/ttyACM0
``` in your compose file
nocturne dome
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Merci.

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I will do this as soon as I get home.

jagged lily
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Hi all, im sure this has been asked many times. but im unable to find the info i need on the net.

I have HA running on Hyper V. (i am unable to move it to any other device. )
i want to add a few cheap temp sensors and these seem to be zigbee devices.

what is the best way to connect zigbee devices to a virtual home assistant running on Hyper V. i believe USB passthrough is not an option for HyperV

ashen bluff
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Buy something like a SLZB-06. It can be used via ethernet.

winged vessel
forest cobalt
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And the remote method always works (unless the bulb is dead).

winged vessel
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Good stuff. Do you run hue thief from your home assistant device (in my case a raspi4) or from a different device (laptop with zigbee stick attatched)

austere patio
forest cobalt
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No, not from my HA device. Bring the coordinator to the bulb or the bulb to the coordinator, but a laptop works best for it.

heady sleet
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FWIW, I had zero issues setting up my Sonoff P with ZHA and the network is super stable and responsive. Is it worth trying to figure out Z2M again? I only did Z2M the first time around with my ConBee because I was having all kinds of issues in ZHA that I thought Z2M would help with, and it was a marginal improvement but still not stable; ultimately the ConBee just sucked. And I saw Z2M had more device support so was just trying to future proof it, but everything I currently own works with ZHA anyway.

sour shadow
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Only if Z2M will bring features/devices you want

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Otherwise leave it alone and working ๐Ÿ˜›

tidal lynx
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Hello together i am going toi get mad because i cant get rid of ths error :

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Logger: homeassistant.components.mqtt.light.schema_json
Quelle: components/mqtt/light/schema_json.py:365
Integration: MQTT (Dokumentation, Probleme)
Erstmals aufgetreten: 21:02:07 (3 Vorkommnisse)
Zuletzt protokolliert: 21:04:10

Invalid color mode 'hs' received for entity light.eg_flur

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maybe someone can help me get rid of it

forest cobalt
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What version of HA are you on and what version of Z2M?

tidal lynx
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HA2024.6.1

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Z2M 1.38.0-1

forest cobalt
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What kind of bulb is it?

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I'm guessing it's passing in a weird color_mode value.

tidal lynx
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Paul Neuhaus NLG RGBW light dimension 120x30 cm

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{
"brightness": 51,
"color": {
"h": 39.9,
"hue": 39.9,
"s": 63,
"saturation": 63,
"x": 0.4035,
"y": 0.3953
},
"color_mode": "hs",
"color_temp": 280,
"last_seen": "2024-06-10T21:21:38+02:00",
"linkquality": 224,
"state": "OFF"
}

plain thunder
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hi, i'm having some issues with a new Lidl zigbee socket (TS011F)
I see more people are complaning about it, https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/2708#issuecomment-1945369043
But I don't understand how to fix this? I have a similar issue as MacData's comment
it seems that the socket is connecting, it stays flashing and then the led becomes solid
but I can't control the switch somehow,

strange lance
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Hi all! I just found a strange thing in my zha and wondered if anyone else had this happen. I have some zha groups and today I found that several devices had been added in the groups, totally random devices.

tropic jewel
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Just tried setting up my Aqara vibration sensor (on my dryer), and got it linked but it won't change state from "clear". Any thoughts?

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
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grim igloo
tropic jewel
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Yes I'm using a Conbee USB extender. ZHA

forest cobalt
tropic jewel
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Well I only have the USB coordinator and the one vibration sensor. Nothing else is ZigBee.

forest cobalt
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Ahhhh, ok, that's kind of an issue. You can connect the device directly to the coordinator, but aqara devices don't like that. You'll want to get at least one router device (like a smart plug, or a smart bulb, or a smart switch).

tropic jewel
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So I have the sensor on my dryer. If I get an aqara smart plug and put it on the outlet in that room, that should work like an extender and make the vibration sensor work better?

forest cobalt
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Correct

tropic jewel
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Maybe I'll try that then. I'm assuming that's the same reason why I can't update any of the device clusters/attributes?

forest cobalt
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Yup.

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Aqara devices just don't like being connected directly to a coordinator.

tropic jewel
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That's so weird. So you basically just connect one device to the coordinator then daisy chain the rest?

forest cobalt
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Yup. That's how Zigbee works. It's a mesh networking protocol. But some devices are finickier than others, with Aqara devices being pretty finicky about what they connect to.

tropic jewel
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Do you suggest I get ZigBee device that's not from Aqara to use as that extender?

forest cobalt
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Depends on where you are in the world. I prefer ThirdReality plugs myself, but I'm in the US.

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But, the Aqara smart plugs do work well themselves, so that would be a safe bet as well.

tropic jewel
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I'll take your recommendation! Looks like they have a 4 pack for like $35. Hopefully that helps, thank you!

forest cobalt
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Those are the ones I always reccomend. I have 10 of them on my mesh right now with 45 Aqara devices... Soooooo. ๐Ÿ™‚

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When you get them, make sure to update them to the latest firmware (you should get a notification about that in HA).

tropic jewel
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I'll make sure to do that, thank you!

forest cobalt
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Happy to help ๐Ÿ™‚

strange lance
# forest cobalt Just out of the blue? ๐Ÿค”

Yes, I haven't touched the groups since the setup ~3 months ago, and yesterday I noticed that two lights were affected by a remote in the wrong room. When I was trying to figure out why I found lights that had been added by themselves in three different groups.

humble lodge
plain thunder
raven jewel
strange lance
raven jewel
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Is it an IKEA remote controlling it using binding?

forest cobalt
strange lance
placid cloud
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Hey all, do I need to be using zigbee2mqtt in order to route a battery powered device through a mains powered device? Im using ZHA and am not seeing an option

mellow geode
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You can pair an end device using a specific router with ZHA by going to the device page of the router, clicking the three dots, then "add device via this device"

placid cloud
mellow geode
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Yes, it's the same with Z2M. You don't need to remove the device though. Just use that option and then reset the end-device.

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It'll keep the same deviec settings when rejoining the network.

placid cloud
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ok thanks so much!

mellow geode
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Do note that the end-device can always decide to switch to another parent. Z2M/ZHA just force the join through that router, so it's initially using that.

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(Older) Aqara end-devices do not switch at all though.

placid cloud
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๐Ÿ‘

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is there a way to see what devices are connecting through that parent?

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the map doesnt show any connecting lines like it does in zwaveJSUI

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@mellow geode

mellow geode
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The visualization in ZHA will only automatically refresh every 8 hours or so. You can trigger a manual refresh by pressing the button in the top right.

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You can refresh the page after ~10 minutes or so (depending on your network size) and it should display the new connections then.

placid cloud
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thanks so much!

warped rose
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Follow up: the peanut plug routers do indeed seem to have been the issue with my aqara sensors dropping off.

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I was also able to get the sensors to pair via my inovelli switches... it just seemed like maybe the time to hold down the button was more ... specific?

grim igloo
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Sounds about right

warped rose
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I've put the third reality plugs on my wishlist to replace the peanut plugs.

thorn cobalt
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I started over completely with Zigbee2mqtt and also installed a different coordinator, a UZG-01 connected via POE. I now have 121 Hue lights connected throughout the house and garden. I still need to connect 64 outlets and around 60 battery-powered sensors. Do I already have good coverage with those 121 lights to add the sensors and later these outlets?

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The reason is that there are various temperature sensors among them, which are more important than the outlets due to heating, etc. But I'm afraid I might end up with a partially functioning network again. What are your thoughts?

grim igloo
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but i would also suggest doing all routers first just cuz that's the best method

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uzg-01 looks like a cc2652p7 nice

ashen thorn
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hello there, i am new to HA, I've setup the ZHA integration in HA but i am getting quite allo tof "sensor became unavialable" sometimes this can seemt o last for hours on end. So i bought some smartplugs to funciton as repeaters, I then readded all the sensor to their respectively nearest router

However i am still seeing this, anything else i can try?, ive also changed the 2.4 ghz channel to a channel that seems to be outside the range that zigbee uses

thorn cobalt
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๐Ÿ‘

ashen thorn
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if there are any pointers i am all ears, most of my sensors are Aqara and Sonoff so far

austere patio
ashen thorn
austere patio
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If it's in a network rack with an AP, that would definitely be a problem

ashen thorn
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okay, so i am going to move it out to the living room on a shelf where there are no usb ports within a 2 meter radius

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but would i need to tell ZHA which devices I should add sensors to or will ZHA handle that automatically?

austere patio
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By default, clicking "add device" will allow joins through every router on your network simultaneously. What the device picks is what it uses

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If you move the sensor around (or if the sensor picked the coordinator and you move the coordinator), it'll cause issues

tropic jewel
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@forest cobalt those ThirdReality plugs work like a charm! They work fantastic and let me sync the vibration sensor! IT WORKS!

ashen thorn
warped rose
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Ok, how can I get better support in ZHA for my kwikset 914 deadbolt? these are the clusters I see in manage zigbee device https://imgur.com/lN8VITN

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How can I use more features than just a lock slider? like, set codes, see what code was used, alert if invalid code used?

austere patio
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ZHA has services for codes and should fire an event when a code is used

warped rose
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Thank you, How do I listen to the door lock on the events tab in developer tools?

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Just "zha_event" in listen to events?

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ok, yup that did it. Sorry for the ignorant questions.

forest cobalt
warped rose
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Ok, I have a question from a friend; can you do a direct bind without a mesh? I thought the answer was yes, but I don't actually see how you could set it up without a coordinator to send the messages.

forest cobalt
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The answer is kinda. That's what Touchlink is supposed to do, but there is little hardware that actually supports Touchlink (basically, Hue and maybe a couple of other manufacturers).

warped rose
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But say, you set up a coordinator and a HA instance and configure a direct bind and then the coordinator and HA laptop leave the area, it would still work, but just be "frozen" in current config and work directly?

forest cobalt
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That wouldn't work. You still need a coordinator.

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Actually... I take that back. You don't need a coordinator for Touchlink. But, it's a 1:1 binding.

distant flume
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(another brand that does touchlink is IKEA; they even sell combinations of pre-paired remotes + lights/outlets that work standalone out of the box)

forest cobalt
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(Rebranded Hue without the cost or reliability ๐Ÿ˜‰ ) lol

warped rose
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So, scenario: I set up a innovelli blue and a zigbee relay, direct bind them, then take them out to the woods and reapply power to each; will it work?

distant flume
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I ... believe they should? my understanding is that a big reason people like binding is that it means switches continue to work when home assistant is unavailable, and most cases of home assistant being unavailable mean that the coordinator isn't running.

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but i haven't actually checked this myself :/

grim igloo
carmine hamlet
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if the relay allows binding to the cluster that controls the relay, then yes

grim igloo
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ya that

carmine hamlet
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many devices don't support that

warped rose
carmine hamlet
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If you have the devices, you can see what you can bind to on the device. If not, often the only way to tell is by others sharing their experiences

proper imp
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does anyone have the innr 242 on zha

spice gyro
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If I disable the mqtt broker in HA, then I don't get the lights bouncing back to 252 in zigbee2mqtt, but as soon as I reenable it, I see it happen...

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Info 2024-06-12 11:12:35z2m:mqtt: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Office Lights', payload '{"ballast_lamp_alarm_lamp_burn_hours":false,"ballast_maximum_level":254,"ballast_minimum_level":50,"ballast_status_lamp_failure":false,"ballast_status_non_operational":false,"brightness":254,"indicator_mode_smart":"reverse_with_load","level_config":{"on_level":"previous"},"linkquality":58,"state":"ON","update":{"installed_version":33753087,"latest_version":33753087,"state":"idle"},"update_available":null}'
Info 2024-06-12 11:12:36z2m:mqtt: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Office Lights', payload '{"ballast_lamp_alarm_lamp_burn_hours":false,"ballast_maximum_level":254,"ballast_minimum_level":50,"ballast_status_lamp_failure":false,"ballast_status_non_operational":false,"brightness":252,"indicator_mode_smart":"reverse_with_load","level_config":{"on_level":"previous"},"linkquality":58,"state":"ON","update":{"installed_version":33753087,"latest_version":33753087,"state":"idle"},"update_available":null}'
formal kestrel
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I finally got the zigbee coordinator and I used a remote button for quick action and I'm already hooked on how easy it is to set up compared to wifi

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I think I'm gonna just go on ahead and grab either hues or innr bulb. Sadly I can't seem to find zigbee fan controller

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that is actually available

forest cobalt
formal kestrel
forest cobalt
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Ah, the Inovelli blue fan switch. Thatโ€™s the one Iโ€™m thinking of.

formal kestrel
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That's what I'm looking at but it looks sold out? My eyes could be wrong?

forest cobalt
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It might be. They are pretty popular. Personally, all my ceiling fans are WiFi.

formal kestrel
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Aha alright

warped rose
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Is there a good technical primer on zigbee clusters?

tiny timber
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FFS, my neighbour has changed his WiFi bands again. Time to move my Zigbee channel and re-pair all 50+ devices again...

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Wonder if he's using that annoying auto channel optimization that some routers have. I should really just talk to him.

storm crown
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Since the 2024.6.2 update I seem to have some issues with changing the OppleSwitchCluster->OppleOperationMode settings of my Aqara switches.
Both the n2aeu1 and l2aeu1 have this issue.
Loaded quirk for n2aeu1: zhaquirks.xiaomi.aqara.switch_h1_double.AqaraH1DoubleRockerSwitchWithNeutral4
Loaded quirk for l2aeu1:
zhaquirks.xiaomi.aqara.switch_h1_double.AqaraH1DoubleRockerSwitchNoNeutral

Does anyone experience the same issue?

LOG:
Logger: zigpy.zcl
Source: components/zha/core/device.py:789
First occurred: 10:44:48 AM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 10:44:48 AM

[0x8EEC:1:0xfcc0] Failed to convert attribute 0x0200 from OppleOperationMode.Decoupled (<class 'str'>) to type <enum 'OppleOperationMode'>: 'OppleOperationMode.Decoupled' is not a valid OppleOperationMode

EDIT: Reading the operation_mode works fine, the writing of the operation mode is where the issue presents itself.
Switches that where already set to decoupled still work in that mode and keep their settings, but I can't change the settings.

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
proper imp
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is anyone using the Innr SP242 with ZHA

warped rose
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I meant in general

forest cobalt
tiny timber
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I have 3 close routers, but my contact sensors keep losing connection.

warped rose
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I was hoping for closer to 20 pgs instead of 2k pgs

shadow sorrel
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Hi I got a question, is anyone using more then one zigbee bridge?

sour shadow
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Some people do, it's not generally recommended

forest cobalt
sour shadow
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Move to Z-Wave

forest cobalt
ancient burrow
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Is there anywhere that I can see a comparison between the Zigbee 3.0 Plus-E vs the Plus-P? It seems like the P is the updated model, but I think I see more support for the E, and I saw on the subreddit someone suggesting specifically the E over the P

sour shadow
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The E is newer and less buggy, don't buy the P

ancient burrow
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Weird, on Amazon on any listing for an E it shows "There is a newer model of this item:" and then displays a listing for the P

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so I assumed P was newer

grim igloo
sour shadow
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"Stable"

ancient burrow
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Gotcha, okay

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That makes sense

sour shadow
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Keep in mind that there have been hardware level problems with the P, and ongoing firmware challenges

frosty harness
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Hey there! I sadly have a huge problem with my Zigbee network -- it keeps failing. Sometimes single devices suddenly do not work while others are fine, sometimes suddenly nothing is working at all. Sometimes it works again after a night of good sleep, sometimes it requires a reboot. Sometimes actions like turning on a light happen hours(!) later, as if the package with that command was stuck somewhere. I'm using a SkyConnect stick and recently moved from HA in a container on a Pi to HA Green to reduce the number of possible sources for this issue, without success, the issues staid exactly the same. The stick is as far away from anything emitting something on 2,4Ghz as possible and while Zigbee is on channel 15, my 2,4Ghz is on channel 13 to be as far away as possibly as well. I'm using zha and tried to completely reconfigure and repair everything once already, just to end up with the same problems shortly after. What could cause this? Is there anything I can look out for myself? Anything to provide to get more help here? I already replaced some Zigbee devices by Shelly-Wi-Fi devices as it became so unreliable.

sour shadow
grim igloo
wild mortar
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to move a zigbee device from being directly connected to my coordinator to being connected to a closer router do I need to remove and readd it or is there a way to move it in the software? using ZHA

frosty harness
# sour shadow 1. You're using a USB extension cable? 2. You've checked for other people's WiFi...
  1. Correct. But not seeing any devices issues in kernel log, so connection should be fine.
  2. Yes, there are a lot of them (around 20 on 2,4Ghz), hard to say anything on the frequency of the stick is actually causing issues. I have zero problem if anything is running (uhm..obviously ^^), but even when some devices fail the other are reaction perfectly.
  3. I tried a lot of optimization by moving the stick in different positions following guides. There are also a lot of routers connected to mains available, there is an IKEA bulb 50cm away from the stick currently.
frosty harness
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Well, I actually just restarted to update to HA 24.6.2 and after the automatic restart everything is dead again. Not a single Zigbee device works.

strange lance
raven jewel
strange lance
raven jewel
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But did you search in discord?

strange lance
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I use zha, not z2m, so I don't look for the issue there.

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And my first question was about units added by themselves in the zha groups. Missed that your answers was about the binding stuff.

forest cobalt
grim igloo
forest cobalt
grim igloo
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you can do the same thing in z2m if you factory reset the bulb or w/e then click the rejoin button i think

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but i guess z2m doesnt do the reset device part for you

forest cobalt
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Yeah, I have used my method forever and habits are hard to break. Lol

split pelican
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Would anyone know how to fully reset ZHA? Since I moved to another stick it is super unstable and I would love to start over

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Removing ZHA and starting a new network did bring my old device back directly, but I would like to start with a clean slate

austere patio
split pelican
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Don't even know the reason for switching anymore. Did move almost a year ago, finally making some time to fix the mess and unreliable devices ๐Ÿ˜„

austere patio
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ZHA maintains a cache of basic device metadata. If you remove it it'll be rebuilt identically so I would just re-join your device to the network, nothing will be different. If you want to delete everything, delete /config/zigbee.db.

split pelican
mellow geode
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Itโ€™s in the same folder where your HA configuration.yaml is, so the config folder.

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Make sure whatever youโ€™re using to access that folder doesnโ€™t hide those files.

split pelican
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Great, you are right. VSCode is hiding the file, shows up via terminal. Thanks!

modest violet
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I have a Kwikset Zigbee deadbolt to install. does anyone know if I can use Alarmo user/codes to program codes to the smartlock for use?

topaz crag
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Hi guys. I'm trying to install the SkyConnect dongle on my Raspberry Pi4. Everytime I try to install the Zigbee network, it states "unsupported_firmware". I tried googling and the forums but there is little or no information on this issue...

raven jewel
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Are you using the extension cable provided with the SkyConnect?

sour shadow
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And are you using Zigbee2MQTT or ZHA?

topaz crag
raven jewel
topaz crag
sour shadow
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I'd start by making sure you're not using the multi-protocol firmware

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Use that

topaz crag
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The dongle just arrived today, the only thing I did was get it out of the box, plugged it in with the extension cable provided and went on to HA to try and install...

sour shadow
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Flash the latest Zigbee firmware

topaz crag
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Thanks! I'll try it now

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Ok, i'm a noob... ๐Ÿ˜…

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Don't quite now where to start...

grim igloo
topaz crag
heady sleet
frosty harness
grim igloo
limber eagle
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Anyone in the US have a nspanel pro?

limpid light
grim igloo
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TFW they act like moving from an esp to a rockchip isnt to keep from people using it with esphome

rapid dawnBOT
sour shadow
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Do you have another computer?

topaz crag
livid girder
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Hi. I'm trying out ZHA@HA integration for Zigbee. I can't figure out how to set different 'device areas' to groups of lights on ZHA. I have a lot of zigbee lights that are grouped to control them as groups. I want to set each group to a suitable 'device area'. Somehow ZHA@HA integration keeps changing all group 'devices areas' if I change one. Is there a way to unlink the groups? Feels like a bug...

rigid leaf
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I have a strange issue recently. My bosch thermostat (connected via MQTT and z2m) is showing unknown as climate status. If I click it and the temperature modal opens, I can see the current status (target temp, current temp, etc.)
Does anyone know why this happened and how I can fix it? I already reconfigured them via z2m and restarted, but no change. My tuya thermostat is not affected and is working as before.

austere patio
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@topaz crag What box are you running HA OS on? The "unsupported firmware" message means that HA can't communicate with the SkyConnect at all, if you're using a VM it is likely a passthrough issue.

ashen bluff
topaz crag
austere patio
topaz crag
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rpi4-64

austere patio
topaz crag
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Yes

austere patio
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So it doesn't get recognized with macOS, Windows, and HA OS? And you're not running HA OS in a VM?

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When you plug it into a Windows PC, it should show up as a SkyConnect in Device Manager. Can you use the web flasher from the Windows PC?

topaz crag
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When I plug it in with macOS it does get recognized (double checked via Terminal). When I use the web flasher it states that there is a Driver issue, downloaded and installed the driver. Same result: Driver issue
When I plug it in Windows it gets recognized as well, needed tot download and install the driver (did that :-)) Result: Error: The running firmware could not be detected.
When I plug it in my Rpi (with extension cable), it gets recognized. I click "Configure", continue to "Zigbee", It does some things and says "unsupported_firmware".

austere patio
topaz crag
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Iโ€™m in Belgium @austere patio

austere patio
warm herald
mellow geode
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Diagnostics download not working seems to have been a frontend issue that should be fixed with the next HA Core release 2024.6.3.

warped rose
spiral hollow
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Just got the SkyConnect for zigbee and configured it with ZHA. Running the latest core OS on Rpi 4.

Trying to connect a sonoff temp sensor and having issues. All I see in the ZHA logs is "Feeding watchdog". I've put the sensor right next to the SkyConnect.

forest cobalt
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Do you have any mains powered devices? Plugs, switches, bulbs, etc? You should have at least one router device. A lot of Zigbee sensors do not like to connect directly to the coordinator. Also, do you have the SC on an extension cable and away from interference sources?

split sage
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Is โ€˜fading_timeโ€™ the same as cooldown in z2m?

forest cobalt
quick willow
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Just setup my new HA Yellow and was wondering how to update the firmware to ember on the Si Labs chip

mellow geode
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I think only via the flasher add-on for the Yellow

timid vault
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I am one of the many poor souls whose ZHA was broken in an update

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because I was running multiprotocol

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no clue how to fix it

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I tried reflashing firmware, migrating the radio, everything I could think of

quick willow
austere patio
timid vault
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Yeah

austere patio
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Did you re-flash your stick back to Zigbee firmware?

timid vault
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yea

austere patio
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What's in the ZHA debug log?

timid vault
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one second

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sorry I just restarted

#

where is the zha debug log

austere patio
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Is ZHA currently loaded?

timid vault
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yea

#

oh ok enabled debug logging

austere patio
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So if ZHA is loaded and is running, that means you were able to migrate to Zigbee-only firmware, no?

timid vault
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I disconnected Skyconnect and plugged it into my computer and switched it to Zigbee only firmware

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the loader for that worked

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afaik

austere patio
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When you plugged it back in, did you run the ZHA "migrate radio" flow and select "re-configure current radio"? It should present you with a list of serial ports and your network backups

timid vault
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yes but I will do it again

austere patio
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How many network backups are shown?

timid vault
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migrating, selected skyconnect

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I am at network formation

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at "select a serial port" I just have the sky connect or manual

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/dev/ttyUSB1

austere patio
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Select SkyConnect and then when it asks what network settings you want to pick, select "restore an automatic backup"

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How many settings backups are shown?

timid vault
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that option is no longer there

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I have keep radio network settings, upload a manual backup, erase network settings and create a new network

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under network formation

austere patio
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Were you using ZHA before?

timid vault
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yes

austere patio
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You 100% should have a network backup, it's stored in /config/zigbee.db (unless you deleted the file)

timid vault
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It's been a minute since I had to muck around with HA, I forget the best way to access that

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unless I enable samba or something

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I can get termina access

austere patio
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ZHA loads it to show you the list of backups, in addition to using it to run. If you don't have the file, that would be the problem and I would suggest recovering it from a HA OS backup. If you do have it, can you DM it to me? It's unlikely but the database could be corrupted.

timid vault
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sure I can see it in the terminal I just forget what the best way to download locally is

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it's in there

austere patio
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I would use SMB or the file manager, I don't think you can download/copy paste from the terminal addon because it's not a text file

timid vault
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yeah I have samba enabled , let me see

timid vault
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found it

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well, zha is now working again lol

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as mysterious as it started

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hopefully it remains that way

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thanks for the help

lucid sparrow
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I've swapped my sonoff dongle-E out with a new one.. but I've been having issues with my remotes not working randomly, and now light groups don't work properly.. I get network busy messages sometimes

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individually the lights seem to turn on and off just fine

north haven
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The Aqara hub m3 is not working with zigbee2mqtt. Does anybody know if it will in the near future?

forest cobalt
north haven
# forest cobalt It never will.

Okay this was true with older versions but now that the m3 is out with matter support I see no reason it can't be implemented in the device. What makes you say it will never work?

forest cobalt
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The M3 is a hub, hence it is it's own coordinator and it's not configurable as a lan coordinator. What are you expecting it to expose with Matter? There is an experimental extension for Z2M that will give you Matter support in Z2M, but I'm not sure what you are expecting the M3 to expose.

north haven
forest cobalt
lucid sparrow
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i think my mesh is stuffed.. whats the easiest way to unpair every device so i can start again

north haven
forest cobalt
north haven
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
north haven
lucid sparrow
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yeah i dont mind re-pairing everything.. i guess i just delete everything from home assistant.. or nuke the database

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i'll have one last crack at trying to fix it.. but everything went to hell when i swapped the dongle out basically.. well, my remotes dont work.. and i have network busy errors when toggling group lights

forest cobalt
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So, think of it this way. The M3 is a hub withh Zigbee (and other radios) in it. It is a coordinator and software controller. That's exactly what Z2M and ZHA are. The only difference is that you have to provide the hardware whereas the M3 comes with the hardware built in.

north haven
forest cobalt
north haven
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man....kinda feel the device has limited use this way

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prob will have to buy a skyconnect just to see the sensor data of my aqara wall sockets. who knows how long it would take for them to roll the software out to work via matter.

forest cobalt
lucid sparrow
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yeah its running latest now

forest cobalt
lucid sparrow
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maybe one device on the network is causing the problem.. im thinking about deleting everything except my light groups

forest cobalt
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Before you go all scorched earth on it, figure out if your coordinator is the problem first.

lucid sparrow
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my light groups were working fine before though.. i dont get why im getting "network busy" on them.. when i can flick each individual light on and off crazy fast

#

its only 4 lights per group

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how do i figure out if the coordinator is the problem?

forest cobalt
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Well, first, look at basic things. Is the stick on an extension cable and away from interference sources?

lucid sparrow
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it is now yes

forest cobalt
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Ok, did you try a different USB2 port as well?

lucid sparrow
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i think they're all usb 3 ports

forest cobalt
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That could be part of the problem then. USB3 and coordinators are a bad combination.

lucid sparrow
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i was getting usb errors with my last dongle.. and this one doesn't seem to have any, and is reliably turning off and on individual lights

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just not when they're in a group for some reason.. which used to work just fine

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i'll back up the zigbee network.. then delete everything

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add the devices one at a time and check for a problem each time

lucid sparrow
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now I can't get one of the bulbs to go into pairing mode ๐Ÿ˜‚

forest cobalt
lucid sparrow
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this one is a mercator ikuu

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supposed to just be toggle power 5 times.. first one worked fine

forest cobalt
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Hmmmm, never heard of those, so I won't be much help there.

lucid sparrow
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i eventually got those paired, theres just a trick to them.. they're very fiddly

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unfortunately i have some strange tuya gx53 bulbs, and they refuse to go into pairing mode.. and I have no instructions for them ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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googling for it, people seem to get frustrated with it and give up

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when i first got them, they were automatically in pairing mode.. so they must be stuck to whatever it was configured to.. its possible if I restore my zigbee backup i can access them again but I dont know what to do

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i fluked it ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

lucid sparrow
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the timing is insanely sensitive on that.. its on and off 3 times.. but you must wait long enough for it to pulse when it turns on, about 2 seconds in between ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

forest cobalt
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Good ol' Tuya being Tuya.

quick willow
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How do I flash the updated ember firmware to my HA yellow?

ionic locust
#

Does the hue motion sensor needs the hue bridge as they advertise or you can connect directly to HA green with sky connect? Thanks

forest cobalt
ionic locust
forest cobalt
austere patio
carmine lotus
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HA got corrupt so I've had to reinstall everything. Now it seems like HA is crashing each time I try to configure Zigbee Home Automation integration. I am using a Conbee II USB stick and at this point I am not sure what to do or what seems to be the issue.

forest cobalt
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Anything in the logs files?

carmine lotus
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In HA logs all I can see that the device restarts itself after I've tried to set up Zigbee

forest cobalt
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The coordinator restarts itself? Paste the logs please ๐Ÿ™‚

carmine lotus
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It's set up on a Rasperry Pi 3, I just tried again so I'm waiting for the crash to resolve itself, after that I can post the log from HA

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||Home Assistant started 11:08:03 PM - 2 minutes ago Home Assistant started 11:02:36 PM - 7 minutes ago RPi Power status cleared (no problem detected) 10:59:19 PM - 11 minutes ago RPi Power status detected problem 10:58:49 PM - 11 minutes ago RPi Power status cleared (no problem detected) 10:58:19 PM - 12 minutes ago RPi Power status detected problem 10:57:49 PM - 12 minutes ago Home Assistant started 10:55:49 PM - 14 minutes ago RPi Power status cleared (no problem detected) 10:49:44 PM - 20 minutes ago RPi Power status detected problem||

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I just noticed that perhaps it requires more electricity when trying to configure zigbee?

forest cobalt
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Yeah, if you're running on a rPi, you need to make sure you have a quality power adapter and for most USB devices, you'll want to use a powered USB2 (not a USB3) hub.

carmine lotus
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I'm gonna check what it's plugged into right now (it's located under my tv stand), so it should be plugged into a socket there, but it is possible at some point that I changed the adapter.. brb

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Home Assistant started 11:22:00 PM - 2 seconds ago Home Assistant started 11:17:18 PM - 5 minutes ago Home Assistant started 11:08:03 PM - 14 minutes ago

This is the latest after changing outlet and power adapter, and trying to configure zigbee again, this time no power status problem, but HA still restarted

forest cobalt
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Can you hook up a keyboard and monitor to the Pi and get to the console?

carmine lotus
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I could, but it's getting late and I've been working on this all day.. my head is just spinning right now so I think I need to go to bed.. I will be able to look at it more tomorrow though, will you be around and would it be okay if I sent you a dm?

forest cobalt
junior ridge
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Something tells me that the problem is some sort of user error on my end. I'm using a SmartThings Hub as my Zigbee controller, and just got a couple of cheap smart buttons (Tuya ZG-101ZE or ZL depending what part of the package you read https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Tuya_ZG-101ZL.html) and I've got it paired into the network. However, it doesn't seem to be reporting the right features. HA is trying to act more like a smart plug than a push button (it's acting like it has a power meter, and no way to register the single tap, double tap and long press that the button can actually do)

blissful canyon
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The way I usually start to debug this by checking the clusters for the device. Iโ€™m not sure if SmartThings shows that info though :/

junior ridge
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Yeah, I'm not sure about that either. I tried poking around the info and I wasn't seeing anything device specific in the app

ionic locust
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Sorry for asking again. Any idea if the Tapo T100 motion sensor connects directly to sky connect or still need the tapo hub? I found a good deal on the sensors in a local shop

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Thanks

quick willow
forest cobalt
ionic locust
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Thanks

hollow forum
#

Anyone else with a Aqara Curtain E1 having issues with it not accepting commands? It was working great after the updated quirk a few months ago, but now it's having issues again ๐Ÿ˜” I have the lumi.curtain.agl001 model, and after re-paring it works, until after some time commands stop working and I get: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>

forest cobalt
hollow forum
forest cobalt
hollow forum
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Didn't want to pair with the nearby bulbs, but it did pair with a plug in the same room. However the topology shows it is connected to a bulb that's further away ๐Ÿค” It's different from the one before though so we'll see

strong field
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Hello i have problems to use zigbee2mqtt with skyconnect or sonoff dongle e i think they need a firmware upgrade. is this possible by any home assistant? i dont wont use websites and prefer a local possibility like a home assistant add on ๐Ÿ™‚

junior ridge
#

Reposting since didn't figure anything out since last night

Something tells me that the problem is some sort of user error on my end. I'm using a SmartThings Hub as my Zigbee controller, and just got a couple of cheap smart buttons (Tuya ZG-101ZE or ZL depending what part of the package you read https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Tuya_ZG-101ZL.html) and I've got it paired into the network. However, it doesn't seem to be reporting the right features. HA is trying to act more like a smart plug than a push button (it's acting like it has a power meter, and no way to register the single tap, double tap and long press that the button can actually do)

molten linden
junior ridge
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ahhh, okay, thanks!

livid quail
#

Whats the trick to pairing Aqara Window/Door sensors (not P2)? I have paired 3 before but always had some issue. This time its the longest ive spent trying to pair it with Z2M

last rain
#

Hello all, I have a mix of philips hue, Schneider Electric, GLEDOPTO and Aquara zigbee deivces. Shuold I ever see firmware updates for anything in ZHA?

soft mirage
#

How do I kill and factory reset my ZHA integration?

Just deleting it and reinstall doesn't seem to help, since zha have some hidden backup of the deleted ZB network and restores it automatically when I install it again.

final hearth
#

Hello,
i try to install my ZigStar GW (zigbee). it was found automatically but an option is set which has no naming. Can someone help ?

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Sorry but i cant post a picture ?

astral terrace
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No naming on what? New devices?

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Interesting looking this up, it may have answered a question I was going to ask about if skyconnect is flakey for everyone else or just me, have to reboot it once a month at minimum and devices kinda lose their functions sometimes(had to unpair my thermastat and repare it to get it to work fully), had to do that to multiple devices after my network just became real flakey

soft mirage
#

I have just succeded to get Z2M up and running (HA addon)
The sole purpose of switching to Z2M was to be able to use a device that is unsupported in ZHA, and I found an External Coverter that shall make it work in Z2M.

But when I try to add the External Converter in Z2M i get an error message "external converters must be array" that I don't understand, and I didn't find anything useful when googling.

I uploaded the files amina_s.js and amina_s.png into my zigbee2mqtt folder, using the File Editor addon.
Next in Z2M under external converters I click th +button, write amina_s.js and click Submit, then the error message passes by.

The device is an EV Charger, Amina S
External Converter and instructions here: https://github.com/somlioy/amina_s

What is wrong?

ashen bluff
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You have to ask the author of that converter. Converters are version specific and not meant for long-term use.

soft mirage
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Just a thougt... Should the external converter be installed before or after the device is included in network?

ashen bluff
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Before is usually a good idea. I think there are some "set up" things that only happen during pairing/configuring. You can also just re-pair/re-configure.

soft mirage
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Ok, that was my guessing also. Thanks for your answers

sterile prairie
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good afternoon.

I just made this question on the #hardware-archived but was advised to ask in here:

I on an apartment that has a garage, 8 floors bellow. I have network, a sable one, with a power line adapter and some hub and hotspot, however i would like to add some zigbee devices to it so i wonder if anyone could recomment a zigbee hub/controler that can be integrated on the HA via network?

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the only requiments are that it has to comunicate via network and be able to integrate on HA.

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user Impact recomended SLZB-06, and for the price i also saw the aqara m3

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but i would like a recomendation from the comunity and from someone with a similar setup

warped rose
full anchor
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One of my ikea zigbee lights seems to have disconnected from the network..
It's showing as unavailable on HA and it fails to reconfigure. Topology looks... okay?

#

there is at least one green towards it

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repairing it has fixed it, but just wondering what might have happened

mellow geode
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Topology isnโ€™t live

warped pebble
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so i'm have an odd issue. My Sonoff-P dongle has worked well for years and after running some apt upgrades on my ubuntu 24.04 server it not longer shows up at /dev/ttyUSB0

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the system sees it when i do lsusb, but it doesn't "mount"

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am i doing something wrong?

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Bus 009 Device 002: ID 10c4:ea60 Silicon Labs CP210x UART Bridgeshows up when i do lsusb

carmine hamlet
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please don't, this is the right channel

warped pebble
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ah ok

carmine hamlet
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does it show up in /dev/serial/by-id?

warped pebble
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/dev/serial doesn't exist

carmine hamlet
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unplug it, plug it back in

warped pebble
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i've done that but i'll definitely try once more

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one moment

carmine hamlet
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and run sudo dmesg

ashen bluff
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Run dmesg -Tw before plugging it in.

warped pebble
#

k

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last line after running that is [Mon Jun 17 04:02:54 2024] usb 9-1: USB disconnect, device number 2

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plugging back in

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new lines:

[Mon Jun 17 04:03:23 2024] usb 9-1: new full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[Mon Jun 17 04:03:23 2024] usb 9-1: New USB device found, idVendor=10c4, idProduct=ea60, bcdDevice= 1.00
[Mon Jun 17 04:03:23 2024] usb 9-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[Mon Jun 17 04:03:23 2024] usb 9-1: Product: Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus
[Mon Jun 17 04:03:23 2024] usb 9-1: Manufacturer: ITead
[Mon Jun 17 04:03:23 2024] usb 9-1: SerialNumber: [MY EDIT, ENDING IN:] 930c07
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still no ttyUSB0 nor /dev/serial

carmine hamlet
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maybe you're missing the udev rules

ashen bluff
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What device is this running on?

warped pebble
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this is in an Ubuntu 24.04 VM inside Proxmox 8.2

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the console output i've been pasting in has been from inside the Ubuntu VM

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Proxmox is passing in the dongle by its Vendor/Device ID

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for more context Home Assistant is running in its own HAos VM. When I migrated it from a docker container to that setup I tried to have Zigbee2MQTT run as an add-on inside it but I got all sorts of errors and non-working behavior when I tried to migrate my setup to it. Mosquitto and Zigbee2MQTT have been running as docker containers in this Ubuntu VM just fine for over a month

ashen bluff
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I heard about this path missing some time ago but it was on debian.
You can try udevadm monitor and re-plug and please share the result of ls -l /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/ and cat /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-serial.rules.
And perhaps lsusb -vvt.

warped pebble
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k

carmine hamlet
rapid dawnBOT
carmine hamlet
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but yes, you should start by seeing if they're really missing or broken

warped pebble
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that's the first ls -l command ^

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here's the second:

rapid dawnBOT
warped pebble
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and lsusb -vvt:

# 
/:  Bus 009.Port 001: Dev 001, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/15p, 480M
    ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb9  /dev/bus/usb/009/001
    |__ Port 001: Dev 004, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, Driver=[none], 12M
        ID 10c4:ea60 Silicon Labs CP210x UART Bridge
        /sys/bus/usb/devices/9-1  /dev/bus/usb/009/004
ashen bluff
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The rules file is okay. What's strange is the driver=[none] here. Should be cp210x.

warped pebble
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going to look into that now

ashen bluff
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I suppose you can try modinfo cp210x to see if that's the case.

warped pebble
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modinfo: ERROR: Module cp210x not found.

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ok so here's the potentially dumb thing I did

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I did apt dist-upgrade

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to upgrade my kernel from 6.8.0-31 to 6.8.0-35. And the -35's drivers folder is anemic compared to 31's

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so now does the system look for drivers in /lib/modules/6.8.0-35-generic/kernel/drivers when I'm using kernel 6.8.0-35?

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or is it a thing where it only uses drivers in there if they're present and falls back on a preceeding kernels drivers if they're not

ashen bluff
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Ubuntu being ubuntu. You can try if modprobe cp210x is needed first. I don't fiddle with kernel modules that often.
You can also try find /lib/modules/ -name cp210x*.
In my case it's part of the linux-image-* package but I don't use ubuntu

# dpkg -S /lib/modules/6.1.0-21-amd64/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/cp210x.ko
linux-image-6.1.0-21-amd64: /lib/modules/6.1.0-21-amd64/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/cp210x.ko
warped pebble
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find result: /lib/modules/6.8.0-31-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/cp210x.ko.zst

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so the previousd kernel I was using

ashen bluff
warped pebble
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is it dumb to try and copy it to the kernel -35 folder at the same path?

ashen bluff
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Probably. If you check that link you'll see there is no 6.8.0-35.

warped pebble
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ok

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so what's my best strategy to downgrade the kernel

ashen bluff
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Reboot and select the old one in the grub menu.

warped pebble
#

k

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hmm i need to see how to do that with a proxmox VM

ashen bluff
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Restore a snapshot/backup would also be an option. You can also just remove the new kernel or pin the older one.

warped pebble
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yeah i'll try and return to an earlier backup

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i was running into issues with mounted drives but I now realize that's because proxmox doesn't re-add additonal drives automatically upon restore

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if i wanted to delete the newer kernel to try that first, is it just deleting that folder or is there more to it

ashen bluff
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No. You delete the package.

warped pebble
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k

ashen bluff
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Try something like dpkg -l *6.8.0-35* or dpkg -l *linux-image* to find it.

warped pebble
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root@docker:~# dpkg -l *6.8.0-35*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name                                  Version       Architecture Description
+++-=====================================-=============-============-==============================================================
ii  linux-headers-6.8.0-35                6.8.0-35.35   all          Header files related to Linux kernel version 6.8.0
ii  linux-headers-6.8.0-35-generic        6.8.0-35.35   amd64        Linux kernel headers for version 6.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
ii  linux-image-6.8.0-35-generic          6.8.0-35.35+1 amd64        Signed kernel image generic
un  linux-image-unsigned-6.8.0-35-generic <none>        <none>       (no description available)
ii  linux-modules-6.8.0-35-generic        6.8.0-35.35   amd64        Linux kernel extra modules for version 6.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
un  linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-35-generic  <none>        <none>       (no description available)
ii  linux-tools-6.8.0-35                  6.8.0-35.35   amd64        Linux kernel version specific tools for version 6.8.0-35
ii  linux-tools-6.8.0-35-generic          6.8.0-35.35   amd64        Linux kernel version specific tools for version 6.8.0-35
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do i just do dpkg -r for each of these?

ashen bluff
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The module should be in linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-35-generic but their search couldn't find it.
You can try installing it and see if it's there now.

warped pebble
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ah ok

ashen bluff
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Let's thread this.

warped pebble
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sounds good

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Zigbee Sonoff-P cp210x.ko drivers not present in linux 6.8.0-35

ashen bluff
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So now that this is fixed please don't use ttyUSB0. The name is not reliable. Use the link that links to it ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/.

warped pebble
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oh yeah definitely, I've known I shouldn't use that for a long time, but on my previous setup /serial/ didn't exist. I'm going to change that now

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done. thank you for the reminder, and thank you very much for your help again

woeful elk
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a tl;dr - install the extra modules package?

warped pebble
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correct

hushed vector
#

Anyone using Third Reality dongle (BL chips)? Does it work with ZHA and Z2M in recent version?

thorny kelp
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i donโ€™t know where else to look but basically i donโ€™t have any internet connection. nada. the only thing i got is my phone which can act as a hotspot for my computer to connect to, and i can get someone else to setup HA on a pi 4b, and the results i got were basically that ha doesnโ€™t require an internet connection, just an initial ethernet. iโ€™m trying to get zigbee2mqtt installed with a single zigbee led strip controller to start out, but im not sure where to start, or if it will even work or not. if you can help please send a dm! greatly appreciated

sour shadow
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i donโ€™t know where else to look but

austere patio
fallen forum
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any good recommendations for door/window sensors?

sour shadow
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Aqara E1/T1/P1 are great

fallen forum
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are those all the same?

sour shadow
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No

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They're all Zigbee 3.0 though

fallen forum
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what's the difference then?

sour shadow
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The E1/T1 are visually the same as the OG aqara, one for China one for the rest of us

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The P1 is another range that's visually different

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Bigger, takes AAA I think

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Like the Ikea Parasoll

fallen forum
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I don't actually care about size. more battery life or range would be more better

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and of course I have a ton of sonoff and they're the cheapest by far

sour shadow
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Third Reality are good

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Tuya should be avoided, and Sonoff can be more miss than hit

warped pebble
astral terrace
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not I, but ouchies on price, but I guess a smart switch plus a MM pressence sensor is similar cost

carmine hamlet
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more, likely

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lol:

Spend $911.00 more to reach free shipping!

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missed it by that much

fallen forum
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very tempting

carmine hamlet
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yeah, considering that I just need one of them, and I can get rid of the standalone FP1 that I've been using

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the FP1 was almost $50 from AliExpress on its own

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and it needs a separate power supply with cord and a place to put it

fallen forum
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i have 4 of the red (or maybe 3 red and a black) zwave switches from them and every one of them I'd rather have that. but not right now, so I guess I'm boned

carmine hamlet
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I really just need one for my office, and the switch is directly behind where I sit

astral terrace
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works great

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Goes through drywall and tile for one of my bathrooms

carmine hamlet
#

Like some sort of Super Man

astral terrace
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except it doesn't give you cancer

austere patio
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Be careful with those sensors. They are really chatty and will forever transmit at like 1-3 packets per second

fallen forum
austere patio
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Get more than a few of those and your network will not do good

fallen forum
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but I could replace the zwave switches and the presence sensors with the inovelli blue+pres

astral terrace
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I did not know that Puddly, thanks for the heads up

fallen forum
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i have 9 of them and my network is fine. they do report in WAAAY too often though

carmine hamlet
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The FP1 seems okay when I've monitored my Zigbee traffic. I don't see anything spamming the network

fallen forum
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but seriously, hiding it in the switch would be a lot nicer looking

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the tuya reports in several times per second

carmine hamlet
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yeah, I like that it's completely hidden

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the PIR ones always have a little bubble that sticks out separate from the switch

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you can't even tell this one from one of the regular Blue

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other than the little hole under the button

fallen forum
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I still do PIR separate in every room

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i have bigger problems than that though. I'll have to keep an eye out for that next year though

carmine hamlet
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I also have a PIR sensor in my office because it's a bit quicker to turn on the lights, but it's battery powered and relatively unobtrusive by comparison. I use it in conjunction with the mmwave sensor

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I can point the PIR sensor toward the entryway and the mmwave sensor toward my chair

astral terrace
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Only reason i got a MM sensor is the PIR sensor in my bathroom would shut the lights off during a shower and wife got pissed about it lol

carmine hamlet
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I've taken some dark showers ๐Ÿ™‚

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spending the time thinking about what went wrong

fallen forum
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lol

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i put them everywhere because the sensor turning the lights off during dinner or while cooking were a problem.

forest cobalt
fallen forum
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i think I'll get the 3R sensors

forest cobalt
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Those are supposed to be good too

fallen forum
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I will report back.

astral terrace
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interesting

forest cobalt
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Huh, that's kinda cool! Inventive!

astral terrace
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lot less complicated then my hacked together setup that I did until I got less cheap and did tilt sensors

fallen forum
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if I do one on each of the upper two panels, then I can have an automation to crack the door open after it floods

forest cobalt
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Does it flood often???

fallen forum
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or even when I know I'm going to be working out there and it's 90F

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sadly it does

forest cobalt
astral terrace
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in the end it cost me more then buy decent tilt sensors lol

fallen forum
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the woman who owned the house before us was a cheapskate, and when the garage was struck by lightning and burned down she had it rebuilt at the top of the driveway instead of behind the house, which made room for a nice garden and a small addition on the house. She did not upgrade the drainage or replace the driveway at the time, so in really heavy rain (happening more and more each year) it'll flood and I'll get as much as 2" of water if I don't mitigate it

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the floor cleanup pump does a pretty good job of keeping it down and the 3R leak sensor turns it on automatically now, but that still leaves the floor damp.

astral terrace
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does it come in the door garage door or foundation?

fallen forum
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it pours under the door

astral terrace
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why not put a french drain with a grate over it at the end of the door

fallen forum
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because replacing the driveway is expensive

astral terrace
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should nee dto replace the hole drive(sorry very topic)

fallen forum
#

i was quoted 3k to do just the 10' in front of the door and the drains

astral terrace
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That sucks either way

fallen forum
#

these are 20 bucks apiece

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I'll get around to digging it out and installing that myself for only several hundred dollars, but there are a LOT of projects in front of that one

fallen forum
# 
Frame changeSourceRouteHandler parsing error: RangeError: Attempt to access memory outside buffer bounds at new NodeError (node:internal/errors:405:5) at boundsError (node:internal/buffer:86:11) at Buffer.readUInt16LE (node:internal/buffer:245:5) at Buffer.readUIntLE (node:internal/buffer:182:17) at Function.deserialize (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/types/basic.ts:19:67) at new EZSPFrameData (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/ezsp.ts:180:54) at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/ezsp.ts:154:23 at Array.every (<anonymous>) at Function.createFrame (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/ezsp.ts:148:15) at Ezsp.onFrameReceived (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/ezsp.ts:439:35)
```  what the heck is this?
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firmware problem?

plain iris
#

hi there... Using HA Container...
I can't upgrade the firmware of my SkyConnect USB dongle via HA.
When I try to do it it says unsupported firmware, any help?

forest cobalt
#

Are you using the web flasher?

plain iris
#

no trying to do it via HA GUI

forest cobalt
#

AFAIK, that won't work. You need to use either the web flasher or the CLI to do it.

plain iris
#

is there a CLI guide to do it?

forest cobalt
#

Ah, actually, I was wrong. You need to use the web flasher. For some reason I read "Sonoff" and not "Skyconnect".

#

(sorry about that)

plain iris
#

do you know if the webflasher has a 7.4.x firmware that supports the new EMBER driver?

forest cobalt
plain iris
#

If I can download the binary I can even flash it using cli from my raspberry directly without detaching the usb key.
I have no physical access to the key currently xD

forest cobalt
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Ahhhh... yeah, I'm really not sure if there's a CLI way to flash it.

plain iris
#

That repo has been archived ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Yes there is a cli command to flash it. I have it somewhere...

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But that firmware is not the latest since that repo has been archived

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Is this the latest one?

mellow geode
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Yes, skyconnect_ncp-uart-hw_7.4.2.0.gbl is the EZSP/Zigbee firmware

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You can use universal-silabs-flasher (CLI), the SkyConnect webflasher, or the flasher add-on

plain iris
#

Ok thank you both guys, I really appreciate your help. ๐Ÿ‘

rich jungle
#

I'm getting an error EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102 when attempting to turn on/off a zigbee plug. Was working fine until I added a fourth Contact Sensor today. Looking at the map it shows everything is still connected and the status of the plug has not changed... I'd rather not have to reconfigure this device (remove + re-add to ZHA) as there are a couple contact sensors in annoying-to-reach locations that are only connected to this plug.

Any ideas?

Edit: It appears to be a problem with all of my zigbee devices (which I only have a total of 9, 4 of which are contact sensors).

austere wadi
#

Hi, just a quick beginner question ๐Ÿ˜…

I have a HA installation on my Raspberry Pi and want to connect zigbee devices (ikea stuff), at best via mqtt.
If I order the Skyconnect dongle and attach it, I would be fine right?

I'm a bit confused regarding that load of different zigbee dongles and stuff, but I want a "simple" solution.
Thanks for your help.

sour shadow
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The SkyConnect is fine for Zigbee2MQTT - just ensure you've updated the firmware

plain iris
#

I finally updated to ember and now I have this error in the logs:
zigbee2mqtt | [2024-06-18 09:13:30] error: zh:ember: Delivery of BROADCAST failed for "65533" [apsFrame={"profileId":41440,"clusterId":33,"sourceEndpoint":242,"destinationEndpoint":242,"options":256,"groupId":0,"sequence":108} messageTag=255]

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searching the internet it's a common problem unfortunantly

plain iris
#

I have another question if possible. Suppose that I have a zigbee device with weak signal because it's distant from my zigbee router...
can I extend the signal just by placing a "light bulb" between the zigbee router and the "weak signal" device?

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should I do something else or the light bulb is automatically able to extend the zigbee signal?

ashen bluff
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As long as that device acts as a router.

sour shadow
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And it's a decent router

plain iris
#

how can I know if the light bulb act as a router?

sour shadow
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Sengled bulbs aren't, all others are

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Osram bulbs are terrible routers that break meshes though

plain iris
sour shadow
#

Don't buy: Tuya, Sonoff, Osram's Zigbee 1.2 stuff

plain iris
#

can something like this works too for the purpose?

#

it's the aqara smart plug

#

does that thing act as a router?

sour shadow
#

Yes

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Innr plugs would be better, but that'll work

plain iris
#

๐Ÿซ‚

plain iris
#

Last question if possible. Does the innr wall plug works well as a router with my aqara devices? Most of my ZigBee devices are from aqara. Isn't it better to use the aqara wall plug as a router?

sour shadow
#

My routers are almost exclusively Innr. My end devices are almost exclusively Aqara.

plain iris
clever harbor
#

MGM24 is still the go to right now ?

plain iris
#

in any case this error
zh:ember: Delivery of BROADCAST failed for "65533"
does not permit to add zigbee devices on my network

any idea on how to solve it?

clever harbor
#

thanks

dire tusk
#

afternoon guys... I've decided to move from zha to zigbee2mqtt.. I've never actively used mqtt before so am starting from scratch here.. I've installed the broker.. then after 30 mins of figuring out ssl was stopping me I also installed the integration... and at that point everything looks ok... then I go to add zigbee2mqtt edge and it won't connected... am just getting constant "z2m: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED ::1:1883"... I checked the github and this was a known problem.. but seems to have been resolved a couple of weeks ago.. so was closed... but thats what I'm getting.. and am on latest beta of HA... any ideas where I should start to fix this?

sour shadow
dire tusk
#

yep.. exavtly that

plain iris
#

last question for today...
suppose that I have the coordinator (SkYConnect), a router (wall plug) and a device.
The device is connected to wall plug because wall plug has a better signal than coordinator.
What happen if I turn off the router?
Will the network reconfigure automatically to make the device able to connect to the coordinator directly?

sour shadow
#

So you didn't add anything to the MQTT settings of Z2M?

sour shadow
plain iris
plain iris
dire tusk
sour shadow
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If you're using the MQTT add-on then you don't do that

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localhost also doesn't work on HAOS or Docker

dire tusk
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I'm running the mqtt broker addon.. yes...

sour shadow
#

Right... so ... you didn't read the instructions above then did you zany

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If you are **not **using the Mosquitto broker addon fill in your MQTT details (leave empty when using the Mosquitto broker addon)

dire tusk
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ok ok.. I misread it.. thats bad english! lol

sour shadow
#

So... suggest a change to make that better?

dire tusk
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ok.. will do.. .thanks...

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next issue... on the webui.. getting a 401 unauthorised.. lol

pseudo cobalt
#

I purchased recently some sonoff devices (door opening sensor, motion sensor, button, ...) but suddenly they all become available.
I googled a bit, and seems like it's not something that unusual, hence I'm quite reluctant on relying on these devices (this brand) in order to put it place an alarm system (from the door bell, motion sensor ...)
Which other brands or devices would you recommend me to to instead, please?
I saw Aqara options are worth to consider too, but just wanting to explore more options before I build a whole automation ecosystem based on unreliable devices ๐Ÿ™‚
And I know, there is no 100% reliable device, but those Sonoff devices failed me after just 1 day ... !
I used ZHA for the integration

dire tusk
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I need to whitelist the network don't I...

sour shadow
#

Aqara are good for end devices - E1, T1, or P1 ranges particularly

dire tusk
junior ridge
#

So, setting up a new system with a Sky Connect plugged into a HA docker system. I'm getting alerts that channel 20 is saturated even though I've only added 8 devices so far.

Is there some way I can scan zigbee channels to find one that has lower congestion?

heady sleet
#

Did you scan to see what 2.4 GHz wifi band is least crowded?

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I think the problem with Zigbee 20 is that you're right in the middle of 2.4 channel 6 and 11. So if either/both of those wifi bands are being used, 20 is going to catch some of that congestion. So if it's mainly your own network on 6 or 11, move your 2.4 Ghz to Channel 1 if you want to keep Zigbee on 20.

Also it might depend on how your Zigbee devices are connecting (eg are they all trying to connect directly to the coordinator, or are some devices routing through another device), but idk enough about that aspect. 8 devices is definitely not enough to cause severe congestion though, so it's likely coming from 2.4 GHz WiFi

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And that's assuming that the message the channel is congested is even accurate

#

If everything is connected and working fine, you can probably ignore it until (if/when) you actually start having issues

junior ridge
#

i'm trying to streamline it now because when we're done we'll probably have 2-3x the devices, but if i just need to look at 2.4G wifi, i think i have a signal meter on my phone

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or i can get one

heady sleet
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Android has some good scanner apps, iOS doesn't unfortunately

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if MacOS, try NetSpot

junior ridge
#

android

heady sleet
junior ridge
#

But when I saw this, I got a little concerned Zigbee channel 20 utilization is 92.06%

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oh, that chart is perfect, thank you

heady sleet
fallen forum
#

you think you'll have 2-3x that, but it'll probably be 5-9x that

junior ridge
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there shouldn't even be many 2.4 gig networks here because everyone has 5 GHz

heady sleet
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Most routers do 2.4 and 5. A lot of devices only use 2.4

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You're looking for the 2.4 graph and whatever of the sections of 1, 6, or 11 have the least/lowest peaks, that's your target for your Zigbee network.

If/when you do move your own 2.4 channel on your router, make sure that Auto isn't enabled or it's just going to change the channel again the next time it scans.

dire tusk
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@sour shadow thanks for the help... all working.. lights and ir blaster added again... lol

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well actually... ir-blaster to start with... hence why I wanted to change.. its supported better than zha

plain iris
#

understanding the mesh network is not easy for a noob.
suppose that I have a coordinator and a router with 60% signal and a device with 59% signal from the coordinator.
I suppose that the device will connect to the router and the router to the coordinator.
But a mesh network should not create a mesh?
I mean, isn't the coordinator supposed to connect to both router and devices if the signal is good enough?

sour shadow
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End devices can connect to exactly one thing

plain iris
junior ridge
heady sleet
#

Also I think USB 3 makes it worse?

#

USB 2 is what you want, supposedly

sour shadow
#

On an extension cable that doesn't matter

plain iris
#

this is really the last question for today and it's for everyone... do you consider 140/120 LQI a good signal that can be reliable or it's too weak?
using aqara devices...

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Does QoS 1 works with these things? How many times they retry to send the information?

sour shadow
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LQI doesn't always/often tell you much of use

carmine hamlet
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100+ is fine. But it doesn't really matter if it works

sour shadow
#

I've got devices that float between zero and 10 and they're rock solid

#

I've had other devices be problematic despite 180+

latent hatch
#

I'm looking into dimmable lights for my new home, i want to put zigbee modules for the lights, ideally i'm looking for an in wall module that can be controlled via an external button for both on off and long press for dimming, if i understood correctly from some googling, not all modules do that., at least not the ones i found on aliexpress, what can you people suggest me?

rich jungle
austere patio
rich jungle
#

Anything in particular I need to look for in there? (I'm using HA Yellow fwiw)

austere patio
#

It would be easiest if you uploaded the JSON somewhere and posted a link

rich jungle
austere patio
#

How long ago did you boot up your Yellow?

rich jungle
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I just did a reboot earlier, maybe 20mins ago?

austere patio
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How far away is your smart plug from the Yellow?

#

And is the Yellow in any sort of networking cabinet or other enclosure?

rich jungle
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Not too far... 20ft maybe?
This was all working fine for months until yesterday when I added a fourth contact sensor then everything started to fall apart :x

#

Yes it's in a closet. If I toggle the switch manually it's instantaneous (via the ZHA integration). And it was working immediately as well calling the REST API up until yesterday

austere patio
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By "manually" do you mean from the button on the device?

rich jungle
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No, the "switch" option in the ZHA integration (under controls).
That being said, this might just be an issue with the REST API

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Yeah, ran the API call in a console and it returned with the following:

Server got itself in trouble```

And now the zigbee integration is failing again (the plug won't turn off via integration once again)
austere patio
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Enable debug logging for ZHA and leave it running for like 15 minutes. Try toggling the plug a bunch of times while it's running and then download the log. It should have more context.

rich jungle
austere patio
rich jungle
austere patio
rich jungle
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For testing purposes I can give it a shot. For my reference, which part shows the signal strength ?

austere patio
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The signal strength is shown in the "Zigbee info" section of the device. You can also enable the "LQI" and "RSSI" entities, they're disabled by default.

rich jungle
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Oh I see, the RSSI of -79? That is quite low... huh
Weird that it didn't have any issues until yesterday. I wonder if maybe something is causing interference

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If I scatter additional plugs throughout the house, it should help with the signal strength, yeah?

austere patio
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It can be interference on the device side too, if the device is near something very noisy. I'm not seeing any indication of the coordinator refusing to transmit due to noise

austere patio
rich jungle
#

oooo that could be it. I moved my PC out of the office, so now it's sitting in between the plug and the HA, firing off it's own Bluetooth + WiFi signal. I bet that's it. Maybe if I route my PC's antenna back into the office or just have a local BT dongle...

austere patio
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Does the device actually toggle when you click something in the frontend? If there is noise near the coordinator, you can't send commands but you can receive updates from devices. If there is noise near the device, you can sometimes send it a command and it will change state but you won't see an update in HA because the device can't reply.

rich jungle
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If by front end you mean via the ZHA integration in the browser, it seems to be having trouble doing so now.

I'll try messing with some things and see what helps, thanks for the input.

plain iris
# sour shadow End devices can connect to exactly one thing

if end devices connect to one thing, but router can mesh by each other, what is the purpose of the mesh? I mean, if the end device can connect only to one router, why router mesh each other just to "enlarge the signal"? but if a router fail, all the connected devices fail. right?

austere patio
rich jungle
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Is it possible to get the aqara contact sensors to work with matter?
Since I'm having to set everything back up, was thinking maybe just enabling matter instead of zha as it appears the hue smart plug and lights i have will function with that?

sour shadow
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The Zigbee ones...? No

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Devices have to support matter for them to work with matter

austere patio
rich jungle
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Yeah I figured as much, but I thought I might be able to switch over to Thread since I have to set everything back up from scratch anyway. But if the sensors can't support it (i.e. no firmware updates) then I guess that option is out.

austere patio
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Most Matter stuff also is via bridges at this point. So it "supports" Matter in that the manufacturer hub advertises itself as a Matter bridge to expose its sub-devices over Matter but it still talks Zigbee to the devices.

rich jungle
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Anyways, it does indeed seem to be an issue with the signal strength. I'll just grab another smart plug or something and put it in the middle somewhere. Thanks again for the help, puddly

heady sleet
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I was reading that the Sonoff tends to calculate LQI differently than other sticks. For example a device I have like 5 feet from my Sonoff Plus never gets above 130, others around 100, but no issues with actual responsiveness or connectivity. Has anyone else noticed the same?

forest cobalt
heady sleet
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Yeah, they all work fine, I was just thrown off by my map being all red

forest cobalt
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The map (and LQI) are really more useful for troubleshooting versus mesh health. If the devices are working, that's great. If they aren't, then you can use the map to see where you might imporve things (pairing sensors to their closest router, etc).

austere patio
rich jungle
# rich jungle Anyways, it does indeed seem to be an issue with the signal strength. I'll just ...

Back again unfortunately. I updated my setup and now have a much more reasonable signal strength on all the attached devices but I am still getting the 102 error from time to time, a delay on the API calls, and "flickering" when turning on or off the original plug. Not really sure what else to attempt at this point ๐Ÿค”

I've created another debug log, here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vb1iAcmrMXNT4NO8dIr-kB-kY7AUVK5E/view?usp=drive_link
This log was only enabled for a few seconds, just before toggling the plug on, then off. It "flickered" when transitioning to off, and I'm seeing a number of zha related python exceptions around then as well.

austere patio
rich jungle
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Oh I guess it kept a bunch of older stuff, looks like it starts at line 10376

austere patio
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It looks like you changed your channel to 26. Can you try changing it to 25 instead? Also, is your Yellow still in a networking cabinet?

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Any nearby USB 3.0 devices or SSDs?

deep plover
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Zigbee error

rich jungle
ashen bluff
austere patio
deep plover
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how do I send an error if itโ€™s too long?

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I saved it as a .txt but it doesnโ€™t let me send those

rich jungle
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I've got a hunch it's not any sort of interference, seeing as it only just started happening after around 6 months of no issues... but I can give it a shot.

austere patio
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So as far as the radio diagnostics are concerned, all they say is that the coordinator tries sending and spends a lot of time retrying, with the device often times never answering. Either there is interference on the coordinator side impacting the quality of the outgoing signal, or the switch itself is positioned near some sort of interference source and cannot reply back to the coordinator.

Does this happen to all of your plugs at once? Or just the one?

rich jungle
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This was the only plug I had until about an hour ago when I picked up another to act as a repeater. I'll try swapping the new with the old and see if it changes anything.

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ok I'm wrong about it not being interference. It looks like the issue is the wall in between, perhaps moving my PC out there is causing more issues than expected. Maybe I can get the connection to jump from underneath or something...
(swapped the two plugs and the new one in the old position is now having the issue, where as the old one in the new position is working fine)

rapid dawnBOT
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@deep plover Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

rich jungle
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ok, that's the dumbest problem ever... it's the powered USB hub that's causing the interference -_- never would have considered that...
Moved it to the other side of the switch and it's fine now

shadow tartan
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I moved a zigbee button to another room and now it's showing a LQI of 16 to the router it's connected to.

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But when testing the button to toggle the light I wanted, it's still very responsive. I guess as long as it works I shouldn't care?

faint epoch
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Hi there,
I'm having an issue with my Skyconnect device. When I connect it to my Home Assistant Green, I'm not seeing it show up in my integrations list.
I've tried going through the official troubleshooting steps, but that hasn't solved the problem. I've also checked the hardware and can see the USB device, but I'm still not able to get it working.
What would you suggest I try to resolve this issue? I'd appreciate any advice you can provide.

plain iris
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may I ask how do you consider Zigbee vs Thread/Matter?

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will Zigbee survive "the new fashion"?

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I feel that there are too many standards, if there are too many, there is no real standard ๐Ÿ˜„

sour shadow
plain iris
plain iris
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a bit OT probably, but is there a reliable leak sensor?
the aqara one is trash, first trigger is easy but sometimes it doesn't return to the original state, wet or dry when the condition changes.

sour shadow
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Third Reality

plain iris
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be patient, I'm am trying to learn ๐Ÿ˜„
how many devices can a "Innr smart plug" handle as a router?
Is three or four a reasonable number?

sour shadow
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A dozen or more

plain iris
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nice, thanks... ๐Ÿ‘

silk fog
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is it possible to change the timeout period of the IKEA Tradfri E1745 motion sensor with zha? I see it can be done with Z2M but I'm using zha and would like to bring it down from the 3 minute default

latent hatch
abstract perch
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Does anyone have suggestions on an AC or USB powered zigbee presence sensor and coordinator? I'm a complete newbie just getting started with IoT

sour shadow
forest cobalt
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I have a couple of the Linptech mmWave sensors. They are USB-C and are decent. Not great though. A better choice is the Apollo MSR-2/MTR-1. Also USB-C, but WiFi and ESPHome based. Plus, their support is fantastic.

abstract perch
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Hmm... I can't find anyone that has that coordinator in stock

sour shadow
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Tube is the maker, and he's usually pretty good about communicating

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I'd second the go Wifi for mmWave though

abstract perch
sour shadow
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Yup

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See...you say his name three times and you summon him...

molten linden
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I have mgm24 coordinators in stock

abstract perch
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hey tube. i just got one from you

molten linden
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See you donโ€™t have to tag me I just show up

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Ha thanks man!!

abstract perch
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i think you were in the process of updating quantities? initially it said all variants out of stock, but refresh ftw ๐Ÿ™‚

molten linden
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I think I did it all yesterday maybe cloudflare cache was slow to update

sour shadow
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The number of times people people post here about no stock and then you turn up with stock... it's almost like you're waiting for those posts ๐Ÿ˜›

abstract perch
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ahhh... so it's a conspiracy.... i see

carmine hamlet
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just-in-time manufacturing is real

sour shadow
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Lots of small batches vs a few large ones too

limpid light
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Except during covid

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JIT almost brought the world to a standstill

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Lol

abstract perch
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so mmWave is different than zigbee mesh?

carmine hamlet
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they are unrelated

abstract perch
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if I get an mmWave sensor it won't work with tube's coordinator?

carmine hamlet
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mmWave is a method of presence detection

limpid light
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Depends on the sensor

abstract perch
sour shadow
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The Apollo one isn't Zigbee, which is good

limpid light
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Wifi is best IMO

carmine hamlet
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how the sensor that implements it communciates with an HA system is a separate thing

limpid light
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The screek wifi ones I have beat the pants off the zigbee ones I've tried

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Especially for quick zone updates

abstract perch
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i don't see on the apollo product page where it says how it communicates ??

limpid light
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@abstract perch I would. Try the screek instead of that one

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That one only tracks one target

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And screek is cheaper

abstract perch
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okay let me do a bit more reading. thanks again all ๐Ÿ™‚

limpid light
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Commends say it's esp based

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Comments*

forest cobalt
molten linden
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takes a lot time to re-jigger things time I don't have when orders pending and life lol.

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hence no routers for a while, but I just got the new holders for the router panels printed (despite one printer's print head pcb dying in the middle of printing)

sour shadow
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You just need a minion to do the building for you ๐Ÿ˜›

molten linden
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I have 3 kids. I'm trying to get the oldest now 13 to freaking help me solder. he's afraid he'll burn himself ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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the others help folding boxes or once in awhile plugging in devices and hitting enter on the keyboard to flash via my bash scripts.

carmine hamlet
grim igloo
carmine lotus
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@forest cobalt Okay so I've had some time to tinker now.. At first I thought it might have been a power supply issue, so I managed to get ahold of an official power cable for the PI, problem still happening though. So what happens is that each time I try to configure Zigbee Home Automation for the ConBee II it reboots HA.
When starting HA I see no issues at all, but after I try to configure Zigbee the logs show a bunch of stuff which I am not smart enough to de-cypher. I have pictures of everything but I can't post it here.

rapid dawnBOT
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@carmine lotus Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

forest cobalt
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Share the logs that way. Images suck for logs.

carmine lotus
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I'm not sure how to get the logs in text form though

lofty kindle
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Any recommendations for a Multi-sensor that includes cO2, motion/zones, temp-humidity under ยฃ20?

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or am I asking too much for that price point?

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
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There's only one sensor that I know of that combines all of those and it's more expensive than that and WiFi (Apollo MTR-1 with the CO2 sensor added).

lofty kindle
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Figured. I mean I could do without the mmwave with zones, and stick with motion and luminence, but even then I guess it wouldn't make much difference?

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Apollo seems great, just outside my budget :/

carmine lotus
forest cobalt
abstract perch
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  • the one you guys were recommending, i mean
carmine lotus
forest cobalt
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Did you take that after a reboot?

carmine lotus
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After it restarted from me trying to configure Zigbee, let me do a reboot and grab that log

carmine lotus
humble storm
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Im looking for a better Zigbee solution as a replacement for my Conbee II. I'd like to have it Ethernet based so I can place it in a better central location in my house. Is the Zigstar UZG-01 still the way to go, or are there better alternatives?

sour shadow
forest cobalt
weak totem
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so at https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/ i was looking for a quirk for my ikea styrbar.. i couldnt find it when i looked for it myself but someone linked it one of the bug reports.. how do i go about finding it if i need it in the future again? does anyone know?

carmine lotus
forest cobalt
carmine lotus
forest cobalt
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Nope. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Still doesn't show where or why HA is crashing. Ok, do you have access to the console of your HA hardware?

carmine lotus
forest cobalt
carmine lotus
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rPi 3

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I feel like I'm stupid or something.. like I've missed turning on some setting that is currently blocking ZHA from installing.. I've tried googling to see if I can find someone else with the same issue but I'm not finding anything

forest cobalt
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Typically, ZHA should install like any other integration. But, my thought is that for whatever reason, it's crashing out when trying to access the USB port.

carmine lotus
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I've tried switching the USB port on the back too

forest cobalt
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๐Ÿค” Hold on... So, you've tried different ports with the same result?

carmine lotus
carmine lotus
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Want to be even more confused? I figured I'd try the deConz add-on, and well.. it's working just fine. It's seeing ConBee II, finding lights, everything as normal

forest cobalt
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Wait... what?! Seriously?! Hmmmm... Yeah, you really need to grab the logs when it crashes and possibly file an issue about it.

carmine lotus
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Wait

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Okay so you won't believe it

forest cobalt
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lol chances are... I would believe it... but, what?

carmine lotus
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So I just stopped the deConz add-on, tried configuring ZHA again and well.. it worked

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I do not know if it is because I did the deConz first or if it's because I tried it on Edge

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I've been trying to get this to work for a week now and I am just x.x

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Make it make sense

forest cobalt
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I... yeah, ok. I don't have an answer why that would work.

tropic depot
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You can not run deconz and zha at the same time

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Only one thing can talk to the stick at a time

weak totem
plain iris
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is there a way to force Aqara sensors to update their state?
I have a water leak sensor that sends update regularly because I see the updated temperature and the updated LQI but the "water leak trigger" sometimes does not return to dry...
is there a way to tell these devices to wakeup and correct their readings?

forest cobalt
sour shadow
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All mine were tested and cleared once dry

minor blade
sour shadow
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You can't poll sensors like that, they're asleep so won't get the message

plain iris
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Probably they need some time to notify the DRY state

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even a couple of hours

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it seems that they are working now...

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I don't know why sometimes they are fast (seconds) and sometimes requires two hours

mellow geode
weak totem
mellow geode
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Remove the custom quirk and make sure youโ€™re running 2024.6.x. It should be supported there.

weak totem
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ok i will try

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i am on 2024.5.5 atm

weak totem
mellow geode
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Itโ€™s not there yet

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Thereโ€™s a PR for it still

weak totem
mellow geode
weak totem
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k

exotic crater
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Hello Folks, I have a few of those Aquara Buttons in my home and I was wondering... Aquara says their three way But i can only configure single or double press... As I understand it there should be a long press option. Can anyboday help me out here?

forest cobalt
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Also, how do you have them integrated to HA? ZHA? Z2M? Something else?

exotic crater
# forest cobalt Can you be more specific? Which Aqara buttons?

Sorry I wasnt aware that theire are many. This one: https://www.amazon.de/Aqara-Mini-Funkschalter-Zigbee-Verbindung-3-Wege-Mehrzweck-Steuerknopf-Home-Anwendungen/dp/B07D19YXND/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_de_DE=ร…Mร…ลฝร•ร‘&crid=1FQJ88IIVZ81U&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.RY4ytcB62mnrTKiwfTj5ku7VKqUc3YwMfUv0NJzq99HmTqMzn2_02Oxt5WxORKYep0hYJaRKAP96oa4QKB39AYs4BGn4VEouhDz5XgbfzdstyoTS_Il6Kj5zgU_gzW2xhjSWtwZxVRfdS1VEqoOHuvt26t8ytnkBQpT6hgvw4qcfeqt4F_Ly7McXhsVMyfF40gSMjZLP7UOrJs8-qWa49wHy4zoJD3re7CBb78P019lmDXdOr8WuzE10CQ-F1GOxTmN_0SGONzgva7sUTvSucmKKIHBJtalJxQiP8gC3Wds.JrbFzU8-Cx4Ss0PPsKz7qMb4uAcr91-3fZtxVCjyMPQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=aqara%2Bbutton&qid=1718893841&sprefix=aqara%2Bbutton%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-4&th=1

forest cobalt
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Depending on how you have it integrated with HA, the long press might not be available. How do you have them hooked up to HA?

exotic crater
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I never needed the long press option but now I had a usecase and was just wondering why it wasnt there

forest cobalt
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It should show up in the _action sensor.

exotic crater
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Hm not realy sure what you mean. When I try to create a new automation I only can choose Single action; single click; double action; double click; batery ; voltage ;link ; quality ; and temp

sour shadow
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You can just type hold in for the state

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The editor only shows what HA has already seen, and sometimes not always that

exotic crater
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If I look into the yaml config i only see this:
platform: device
domain: mqtt
device_id: 62abd17c42cc5950bea3acd8335e33ca
type: action
subtype: single

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it does not show state at all

sour shadow
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Use a state trigger

exotic crater
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Ok i need to figure out how to do that with the german ui gimme a moment :S

inland jasper
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Hey, I am new to home assistant but not new to networking and I am looking for sensors and things to integrate. I'm building everything from the ground up so I don't really have any existing sensors at the moment to work with. My home assistant is running on my truenas server and I would like to continue with zwave for zigbee and was wondering what the consensus was on zigbee adapters, and door, temperature, humidity, and water sensors. I am comfortable with soldering and networking but if possible would like to keep it closer to plug and play. Lower is better budget wise. TLDR: I need a zigbee adapter and sensors fairly cheap. I don't know what's good or if there's any brand in particular that's reliable

brazen ivy
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I've been using the SkyConnect as a Zigbee coordinator, and no complaints so far

sour shadow
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Adapters: MGM24 based (#zigbee-archived message)
Sensors: Xiaomi Aqara - ideally the E1, T1, or P1 ranges
Zigbee routers: Innr plugs

brazen ivy
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From what I've seen on here, the community forums, and various product reviews, sonoff and tuya should be avoided

sour shadow
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Buying cheap stuff is a mistake, doubly so if you buy Tuya

brazen ivy
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I've been looking into aeotech, but haven't personally tried anything from them

inland jasper
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Gotcha ok

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What about cameras

sour shadow
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There are no Zigbee ones ๐Ÿ˜‰

brazen ivy
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Zigbee (and similar protocols) aren't an appropriate choice for high-bandwidth devices such as cameras

inland jasper
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Lol yea I figured

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Is there a list already or should I just ask again

sour shadow
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Search that channel's history, but ask over there

inland jasper
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Ight

heady sleet
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Best affordable Zigbee light switch relay? Some 2 and 3 gang, old school toggles