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lethal canyon
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that looks very interesting

wintry musk
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thnx for pointing me in the right direction

lethal canyon
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gonna order one and check it out

forest cobalt
lethal canyon
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ye I just found it tyvm

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but also the remote buttons on STYRBAR arent working after firmware update @forest cobalt 😂,

forest cobalt
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Awesome! Glad you got it fixed up!

lethal canyon
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I had another one that had the updated firmware from factory and it works ok tho

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this one is still connecting, and talking to ZHA

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but not sending any instructions on button presses anymore

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looks like it's gonna go back to ikea

forest cobalt
austere patio
lethal canyon
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1521lumen is great for me cause my 1100 lumen bulb is not really enough

austere patio
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If you manually enable the firmware provider and update the device, it may change the way it sends commands, which is what you're seeing

forest cobalt
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I use 3 of them in my outdoor lights and they are SUPER bright. Color changing is a bonus for holidays.

lethal canyon
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thats the weird part

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the one with that firmware from factory works perfectly

austere patio
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Make sure to re-join the device after updating firmware

lethal canyon
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oooh

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lemme try that

finite pawn
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Is there some way to change the page title for the Zigbee2MQTT front end?

forest cobalt
lethal canyon
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tysm

soft junco
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Hey people, I have the weirdest issue, i can't seem to resolve. i have a TS0601_dimmer_2 from moes (zigbee) that controls my garden lights. When i set them to brightness 254, after a few minutes they reset to 35. This happens if i set them to on via an automation or even just do it manually with a card on my dashboard.

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you can see in the log

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Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-04-29 21:01:09: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Switch-Garden-Dimmer', payload '{"backlight_mode":null,"brightness_l1":35,"brightness_l1_l1":254,"brightness_l2":35,"brightness_l2_l2":254,"countdown_l1":0,"countdown_l1_l1":0,"countdown_l2":0,"countdown_l2_l2":null,"linkquality":144,"max_brightness_l1_l1":255,"max_brightness_l2_l2":null,"min_brightness_l1":0,"min_brightness_l1_l1":null,"min_brightness_l2":0,"min_brightness_l2_l2":null,"power_on_behavior":"on","state_l1":"ON","state_l1_l1":"ON","state_l2":"ON","state_l2_l2":"ON"}'

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brightness is set to 254

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but little later is see a message

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Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-04-29 21:01:09: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Switch-Garden-Dimmer/l1', payload '{"brightness":35,"brightness_l1":254,"countdown":0,"countdown_l1":0,"max_brightness_l1":255,"min_brightness":0,"min_brightness_l1":null,"state":"ON","state_l1":"ON"}'

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with brightness 35

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i have removed all automations for this device

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so i think it's the device itself that is resetting the state, is this possible

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is there anyway to figure out who is setting the state to this brightness of 35

rapid dawnBOT
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@soft junco I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
soft junco
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and the thing is find werd, is why do i have brightness_l1 and brightness_l1_l1

forest cobalt
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This feels like a bug in the Z2M driver. I'd try posting it in their discord or create a discussion or issue in their github if you've ruled out HA as the culprit. Did you check for scripts and/or templated triggers or anything like that as well?

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But, it's also a Tuya device.... sooooo yeah.

soft junco
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removed all automations, there is nothing drivin this device

forest cobalt
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Ok, yeah, I'd bring it up in either the discord or the github discussions as it really sounds like an issue with the Z2M driver or maybe the device.

tall rivet
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hello - i have a small zigbee network going and seeing that one of my device is "hanging out" by itself and not linked to the "coordinator" or any other router. what does this mean?

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^image of my map

forest cobalt
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Sometimes it means the device has dropped, but the device could also be in the middle of establishing a route when you checked the map. Zigbee maps are point in time, so if the device is establishing a route, it may not report it at that time. Is the device itself still reporting or has it's last_updated been a while? Since it's a temp/humidity sensor, you can just go blow on it and see if it reports the humidity change. If it does, it's probably trying to establish a route. If it doesn't, it's probably dropped off the mesh.

tall rivet
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its been this way for 10 days 😦

tall rivet
forest cobalt
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If it's reporting, then I wouldn't worry too much about the map. The map is meant more as a troubleshooting tool than a metric to say how healthy your mesh may or may not be.

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You could always unpair and re-pair it to a close router and force it to update the route that way, but Zigbee is kind of a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" protocol.

tall rivet
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yea i may need to be more mindful next time i set up my devices that i setup them up at their intended location and not my office (where the coordinator is)

forest cobalt
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lol always a good rule of thumb.

forest cobalt
tall rivet
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Xiaomi*

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LYWSD03MMC

forest cobalt
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Ahhhh, interesting... Xiaomis aren't usually too bad. Might make sense to re-pair it to a nearby router and let it establish a stable route. But again, if it ain't broke...

tall rivet
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would battery life be impacted with what i believe is an ineffecient route?

tall rivet
forest cobalt
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It could affect battery life, sure. If the device is spending time trying to find a route, it would wake up more often to do that.

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Yeah, just delete from Z2M, put the device in pairing mode and then in Z2M select the closest router to pair to.

tall rivet
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hmm i didn't realize you could ask a device to pick a specific router

forest cobalt
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Yup. In the top bar in Z2M, you can drop that down and select which router you want to pair to. Kinda nifty 🙂

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I think they added that to ZHA as well, but I don't know 🤷‍♂️

mellow geode
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Yes, go to the device page of a router and click the three buttons -> "allow joins via this device"

tall rivet
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the 2 routers are philiips hue bulbs

tall rivet
forest cobalt
simple inlet
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Hi guys, I have a Zigbee infrared controller model ZS06 and I'm using Zigbee ZHA and it doesn't natively recognize it as a controller, I found this blog that tells how to use it https://smarthomescene.com/reviews/tuya-zigbee-infrared-ir-remote-zs06-review/ but I still can't get it to work. When I go into the device's settings Zigbee configuration but the option indicated on the blog does not appear. Could you help me? Thank you

tall rivet
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
tall rivet
forest cobalt
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Yeah, see that arrow next to the timer? Drop that down. All your routers should show up there.

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(So, your two bulbs should show up in that dropdown)

tall rivet
quick hare
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But the battery is so big, I was pretty sure it still had much more capacity.

tall rivet
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when its set to "all" it does it own its own

quick hare
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Is it ZigBee 3.0?

forest cobalt
tall rivet
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ok in that case, i can even set up when at my desk instead of standing like a fool in the bathroom with my paperclip trying to short the temp sensor 😆

simple inlet
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
simple inlet
shadow tartan
tall rivet
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LQI is now 168

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where as before it was in the 100s

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
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Also, don't put TOO much stock into LQI/RSSI... just like with the map, they are more for troubleshooting as opposed to "this is how my device is performing". Case in point, I have over 50 devices with a LQI of less than 100. They all work perfectly. You should only really care about the LQI if the device is dropping off the mesh a lot.

tall rivet
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i was thinking LQI from a battery prespective - ideally lower lqi more battery its taking to phone home?

simple inlet
forest cobalt
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Nope. Not at all 🙂

tall rivet
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hmmm i see

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so probably not worth fixing my basement sensor which is hanging out at 55 lqi

forest cobalt
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If it ain't broke... lol trust me, words to live by. I have over 150 devices in my mesh right now and I can't tell you the last time I looked at a LQI value.

tall rivet
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can you suggest a low cost zigbee led light strip? i need one to put under a media console to act as a notification light

lilac wharf
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the most devices i've ever had on a zigbee network is 78. now that we've moved to a smaller place, we're down to 34

tall rivet
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which works with z2m please

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i was going to get a basic one from ali express for like 6 bucks

forest cobalt
tall rivet
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had my eye on this one

forest cobalt
tall rivet
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hard to figure out if its approved for z2m

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
lilac wharf
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damn, that's wild

lilac wharf
tall rivet
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
tall rivet
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really dont want to get add zwave just for this one switch

forest cobalt
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Wait, where in the world are you? That matters

tall rivet
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usa

forest cobalt
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Ok. 1 sec

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Specifically wall mounted or do you want something "interesting"?

tall rivet
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i'm open to both 😉

forest cobalt
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Damn... looks like Sinope stopped selling theirs... BUT... you could get a Hue 4 button Dimmer and reprogram the buttons with automations in HA. Or, and here is the "interesting", check out the Aqara Cube Pro: https://www.aqara.com/en/product/cube/

tall rivet
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hue sticks out like crazy no? its huge

forest cobalt
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There's a blueprint up on the forums that enables something like 18 different actions from a single device for the Cube.

tall rivet
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i heard aqara actually is a big culpurt to not implement zigbee 3.0 correctly in their devices

forest cobalt
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Ish... it depends on the routers you pair them with. With Hue gear (like your lights), they work fine.

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I have well over 30 Aqara devices in my mesh... light strips, contact sensors, temp/humidity sensors, Cubes, wall rockers... you name it. lol

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Correction, I have 43 Aqara devices in my mesh.

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lmao I was about to say...

tall rivet
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yea user error

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no "s" in the name

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at the end*

forest cobalt
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🤣

tall rivet
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i may have to wait for amazon's summer prime day

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hopefuly some good deals on aquara

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42.5 bucks for a 2m led strip 😦

forest cobalt
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Oh that light strip is worth every penny though.

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I have 2 of them and they are great for notifications and other stuff as well. I use one under my desk and I put it into music mode and it pulses.

limber eagle
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Man reading other people's questions/issues/comments and the replies to them and I just got my mind blown. Never once crossed my mind to pair far away (from the coordinator) devices directly to routers closer to them. Fantastic!

tall rivet
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else it wont matter

forest cobalt
limber eagle
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I had one device I ended up giving up on because it was in a weird spot with respect to the coordinator and just would not stay connected. But there are many router devices with decent lqi around it. Time to dig it out of the box!

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Wonder what other lqi I can improve on existing devices!

forest cobalt
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Don't worry so much about LQI (as I said earlier). Worry more about the performance of your mesh and how the devices perform. Zigbee is self-healing (for the most part) and even if you pair with a router right next to an end device, there is no guarantee that the device will stay routed to it. If the coordinator and the mesh determines a better route, the device in question will probably take it. With that said, if you are having a problem where the device drops frequently, then pairing it to it's nearest router can help. But it's not a silver bullet fix. But, you also need to look at things like the firmware of the device, battery life (when in doubt, change the batteries), and other environmental factors (WiFI APs, microwaves (yes, microwaves), other computers, hell even USB3 devices can interfere with Zigbee).

limber eagle
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It's a mains powered ceiling fan canopy/remote. The one from wink/Hampton bay. Although I guess an interesting question would be...is it the remote or the canopy that is the actual zigbee device?

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But anyway the fan is on the back porch and it is understandable that it might have trouble reaching the coordinator from there based on house alignment. There are a number of Hue bulbs and other stuff in the vicinity though.

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The remote would be just inside the house and shouldn't have much trouble reaching.

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It has to be the canopy I'm sure. Just weird that the entry on the z2m page shows a pic of the remote

forest cobalt
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Ahhhh, iirc those have some crappy antennas in them. But yeah, re-pairing it near to one of the routers might help with that. Also, do those have a little antenna wire on them? Something that you can hang outside of the canopy?

limber eagle
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I think it had an antenna wire, yeah

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And you are correct about the crappiness of the antenna

forest cobalt
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I actually just went through and replaced 6 ceiling fans in the house with Tuya WiFi ceiling fans. I was going to go Zigbee on them, but all the ones I could find had craptastic chips in them (imho).

limber eagle
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But still. I ended up replacing it with a wifi switch. Would love to have one less wifi device!

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The whole fan is tuya or are you talking about those treatlife switches?

forest cobalt
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Well, they are all DC fans with Tuya controllers in them. I got them off Amazon for like $110/each.

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My old fans were here in since the late 80s, so it was time... hahaha

limber eagle
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Also I should add when I was using this device, I still had my Hue stuff on their Hub. So my z2m was separate and far weaker than it is now.

forest cobalt
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Ahhhhh ok, yeah. Try re-pairing it to the closest router and see if that helps. If it still has the antenna wire, see if you can route it to hang just outside the canopy.

limber eagle
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I will and I'm pretty excited about it lol. Been on a push to cut down on manufacturer apps and streamline as much as possible. This would help.

forest cobalt
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BTW @tall rivet Check out these Aqara rockers if you have neutrals (there's also a non-neutral version as well): https://a.co/d/6CRmcWv

forest cobalt
limber eagle
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Yeah. Almost. I have a sync box and I couldn't come up with a way for it to still work if my bulbs were on Z2M so I left the stuff around the TV on the hue hub. It's running a tiny little separate zigbee network. Eventually I'll overcome that part but it's ok for now lol.

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Everything else from 2 Hue hubs is now on Z2M as of last week and I'm digging it

forest cobalt
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I ditched my sync box when I got my Series X. It just couldn't handle the framerates and kept lagging out. Still haven't replaced that yet.

limber eagle
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I figure it'll eventually either crap out or someone smarter than me will come up with a seamless way to run it alongside Z2M. But for now this is fine.

forest cobalt
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It'll never come into Z2M as Philips will never open source their Entertainment API. It'd be like them lowering prices; We'll both be long dead before they do that lol

limber eagle
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But have you seen the diyhue addon? They found a way to mimic a hue hub which allows you to add your lights into the hue app. I messed with it for a long time but couldn't quite get it to set up correctly so I moved on. I think if that works...then using the lights with the sync box becomes a real possibility.

fleet forum
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Hi, I have a 3 floors house, I need to communicate the antenna that is on the third floor to the zigbee devices that are in the cellar(floor -1). Do you think is possible to do something like this? Thanks

forest cobalt
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Yup, I saw it. I was going to actually contribute to it until I saw they were trying to reverse engineer the entertainment api and that was just a hot mess. IIRC, they got close with it, but there are certain things that Hue does within their mesh that is WAY outside the Zigbee3.0 spec and couldn't be replicated.

forest cobalt
limber eagle
forest cobalt
fleet forum
forest cobalt
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In that case, I would actually go with something like a Zigstar or Tubeszb coordinator. They cost a bit more, but they pack more of a punch. The Dongle-P can do 20dbi (IIRC 🤔), but it's not nearly as good as going with a TI-CC2652-P2 chip.

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Plus, if you have PoE already, you can get them PoE powered and can put them anywhere. That's the other thing with a network based coordinator. You could put it up on a wall say on your first or second floor and then get routers to put around it on the other floors.

fleet forum
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That seems too complex for the original idea

forest cobalt
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It might be, yeah. I would only go this route if you are looking to add more sensors and such to your house. In my case, I have a LOT of devices (100+) all in Zigbee, so I put a lot of time and money into my mesh.

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BUT... if you're thinking of just starting off with Zigbee, the Dongle-P would be perfect, but it'll have a really hard time getting to devices in your basement.

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At least without a bunch of routers on each floor in-between.

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For your outdoor floods idea, a couple of WiFi smart plugs would be a good place to start as well.

fleet forum
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I'll try with a zigbee hub dongle and 2 plugs and see if they work, if they won't connect I'll send back to amazon and try other ways

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thanks

woeful elk
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Zigbee is self-healing (for the most part)

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Assuming that you have more than one router 🙂

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I'm tempted to get another Sonoff P or E stick and putting the router firmware on it - but right now, everything seems to work with just a single sonoff stick as a controller

tall rivet
tall rivet
woeful elk
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I figure if I actually get any thread devices, I'll care about that then

woeful elk
forest cobalt
gusty yarrow
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is there a way to change the ip address of a controller in zha without doing the whole migration process?

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zha communicates to the controller via a tcp socket

forest cobalt
woeful elk
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@forest cobalt do you have any way to verify the power level setting on the P stick?

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heh. P Stick 😄

tall rivet
woeful elk
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but that doesn't seem to be present in my HA version

forest cobalt
woeful elk
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yeah - currently, I'm on: Firmware: Z-Stack 20240315

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but it seems like there's nowhere to verify what the power level actually is

carmine hamlet
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changing the TX power is rarely useful, and often detrimental

forest cobalt
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5dbm is usually plenty as that only affects the transmit of the coordinator itself. The devices still don’t have enough power to reply and it usually causes more harm than good.

woeful elk
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nods

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hell, I'm a licensed radio guy - so I can do 40W on 2.4Ghz if I wanted to hahahah

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but verification is not the same as changing 🙂

forest cobalt
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hahaha true true.

woeful elk
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tbh, I'd probably go to 9dBm transmit anyway - but that's based on my normal preferences

forest cobalt
woeful elk
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or hell, go 10dBm - then that's 10mW - which is nice and easy to remember 😄

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my wifi kit is still 23dBm == 200mW

forest cobalt
woeful elk
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nods

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I don't actually know what the TX power is on the light switches I have.

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but that's also why I'm going to experiment with a 10db gain antenna on the P stick.

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I'm pretty sure the normal antenna is only 3db

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at least, in theory, that should assist in RX as well

forest cobalt
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I’ll guarantee you it’s not more than 5db. Probably more like 2db-3db. Battery devices are probably lower than that.

woeful elk
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interestingly, the Clear Air stats on my APs shows some nice details:

forest cobalt
tall rivet
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What is a dotted blue line in z2m?

woeful elk
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I was thinking that the "Continuous Transmitter" is likely the zigbee stuff - but that's in reference to Wifi Ch6 - and my Zigbee stuff is all on channel 26

forest cobalt
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Hmmmm makes me wonder what’s on ch6 then.

woeful elk
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I'm just about to break out the HackRF and see what I can see hahahaha

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yeah - I can see a signal on 2426Mhz

tall rivet
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Has anyone done custom firewware for hue bulbs?

woeful elk
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looks like another weak signal on 2440 Mhz - Maybe Zigbee channel 18

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hahaha - then my scanning headset dongle 😛 - but that's around Ch 11

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on wifi even

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depending on what I'm reading - the default may well be 9dBm now anyway

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but trying to find an exact answer is difficult

tall rivet
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@forest cobalt do you devices in z2m show "last seen"

light lantern
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Deconz questions can be asked here?

sour shadow
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Sure

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You'll almost certainly get better help on their Discord though

pulsar kelp
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Hey all, I'm trying to bind some sonoff buttons to lights in ZHA, I get no errors, but nothing is working. Anyone managed to get binds to work or is it broken?

forest cobalt
rigid wagon
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Does anyone know of a temperature sensor with a probe attached?

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I can use the probe to keep am eye on pool temperature

forest cobalt
heady sleet
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Z2M, is there a way to keep the map in the same position when I reload? They fly around and I want to keep them visually grouped together

grim igloo
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just.. not using the chair sensor

tall rivet
# forest cobalt Yup.

did you have to enable something in your config file? i cant seem to get my devices to show the "last seen" it just says N/A

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i did enable "Avaliblity (Simple)"

finite osprey
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When I look at the Zigbee Coordinator device info, diagnostic, etc page I see that the coordinator has "+51 entities not shown". Usually you can click on that link to see them, and pick which ones to enable. When I click on it, nothing happens. Any idea how to fix that?

finite osprey
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I went to where you can see hidden/disabled entities and enabled theme. Now the Diagnostics section is no longer displaying, including the enabled entities.

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A reboot of HA made them appear again.

spark star
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I have a Tuya Zigbee 3ch switch. Depending where I look the model is ts0003 or mini-z1-3ch. There is a ZHA quirk found. I would like to operate this in interlocking mode where only one output can be active at a time. How can I do this?

forest cobalt
timid mirage
# rigid wagon Does anyone know of a temperature sensor with a probe attached?

Inkbird has some, for instance this, but I think they have more.
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slate ravine
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Having a weird issue trying to add some Aqara devices, I've added a door sensor, a temp/humidity sensor, a cube controller, and a motion sensor all perfectly fine, paired basically immediately when I was pushing and holding the button. My problem though is when I try to add additional door sensors. i bought a 3 pack, and when I try to go to pair either of the other 2, nothing happens at all, and I can't see it show up in the logs when scanning either. Seems like it's treating all 3 as the same device maybe? I've got no clue honestly

I can sometimes get it to pair with one of the 3 door sensors, but once they're paired their statuses never update, they always just say "Closed" even though the sensor makes the sound when they come apart and I'm only like 5ft away from my Hub

Hub is connected by a USB 2.0 extension and is about 10ft away from the server it's plugged into

tiny timber
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I'm blanking. Is there a way to change the delay between when something is considered a tap and a hold for Zigbee devices using Z2M?

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
tiny timber
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Ikea button remote

slate ravine
tiny timber
forest cobalt
gusty yarrow
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is it possible to dump controller firmware from a EM3581? I'd like to try different ones but it'd be cool to have a dump just in case

forest cobalt
slate ravine
gusty yarrow
tiny timber
forest cobalt
slate ravine
forest cobalt
gusty yarrow
gusty yarrow
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That'd be convenient

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hmm --help doesn't bring up anything useful

forest cobalt
# gusty yarrow really?

I think. Been a long time since I played with bellows, but I seem to remember to being able to grab both NVRAM (NCP states) and firmware.

gusty yarrow
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there's the dump command but that dumps the comms frames, not the firmware

forest cobalt
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Hmmmmm yeah, it may not. But, you might be able to ping one of the zigpy devs and see if they have a way to

gusty yarrow
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I'd really appreciate that

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also, is it possible to make the mcu join a network as a router instead of creating one as a controller without flashing a router firmware?

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that's the Y problem I'm trying to solve

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My thinking was that I'd need to compile a firmware where the device acts as a router

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so before flashing it and messing it up I was thinking I should back up the firmware first

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Here's the help from bellows join

Usage: bellows join [OPTIONS]

  Join an existing ZigBee network as an end device

Options:
  -C, --channels CHANNELS     [default:
                              11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26]
  -E, --extended-pan-id TEXT
  -P, --pan-id INTEGER RANGE  [0<=x<=65535]
  --help                      Show this message and exit.
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idk if I could use that

forest cobalt
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That one I can answer at least. Yeah, you would have to flash a router firmware. On the ESP based coordinators, it’s pretty easy and even if the router firmware fails, you should still be able to flash the previous firmware fairly easily.

gusty yarrow
split sage
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Are the any No neutral Dimmer switches about that work in the UK?

There are a few that claim they are, but they still require a COM connection

forest cobalt
# gusty yarrow any ideas of what this does then?

Not that I know of, but throw an issue up in the zigpy GitHub or MAYBE Z2M’s issues or discussions. There are some very clever devs working on Z2M and if anyone would know, they would. Might also ask in the Z2M discord as well.

forest cobalt
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But they will never be routers.

molten linden
gusty yarrow
molten linden
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And zigpy-cli for backup/restore

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Bellows command line stuff is mostly deprecated

gusty yarrow
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any idea if it's possible to do it via a socket:// connection or does it have to go via a serial device?

molten linden
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Both are python and except socket://ip:port for the device

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I use them all the time 😂

forest cobalt
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And there’s the expert I needed! Thanks @molten linden !!!

molten linden
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If you want to actually dump the firmware you’d need j-link or similar and use silicon labs commander to pull the firmware

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AFAIK can’t be done over serial. EM3581 is pretty old and I think EOL or near

forest cobalt
molten linden
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I believe.

split sage
forest cobalt
split sage
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I’m not sure if that is entirely true tbh, I know about the router isn’t possible

tiny timber
forest cobalt
split sage
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I actually returned my Moes Star Ring wall switch, as it claimed it supports no neutral, but it actually doesn’t

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Shelly are wifi based unfortunately

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It’s just a shame that these manufacturers lie about support just for marketing

tiny timber
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I've had less issues with WiFi based devices than Zigbee devices. Just chew more power is all.

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
split sage
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Dimmers modules seem a better bet than switches tbh

tiny timber
gusty yarrow
# gusty yarrow any ideas of what this does then?

after monkeing around the bellows join command I was able to make it work, it seems to be some crusty code that used some functions that got updated and broke sutff. I got it working to the point where it shows as "unk_model by unk_manufacturer" in ZHA and it's listed as Power source: Mains however Device Type: EndDevice so it seems that i'll have to flash it anyways

glossy wyvern
#

Hi everyone, I tried to disable multiprotocol, I had an error saying failed to migrate zha, if I try to re-enable it, it says failed to start multiprotocol addon. ZHA either fails to start or start properly, but none of my zigbee device are available. I have a Yellow, I really don't know how to troubleshoot the issue

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Restoring a backup of a working home assistant does nothing, it looks like backup are useless with ZHA

austere patio
glossy wyvern
austere patio
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Once that's done, re-enable ZHA and click "Configure" on the integration. It'll bring you to a page that shows a "Migrate Radio" button. Click it, choose "Re-configure current radio", pick the Yellow's Zigbee radio again, and pick your Zigbee network's most recent backup from the list. Should work after that.

glossy wyvern
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ZHA does initialize, but none of my device are responding

austere patio
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In the list of network backups, how many did you see?

glossy wyvern
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But the recent backup was on the 29th, at this date I was still using multiprotocol, should I need to try to get multiprotocol back first?

austere patio
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No, that's not necessary

glossy wyvern
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Oh it's coming back

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I think Zigbee networks was self healing

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Well, thank you a lot, @austere patio, that was appreciated 🙂

finite osprey
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I have this issue every so often and while I can delete the "unk_manufacturer unk_model" device from ZHA by editing the core registry file, I'd like to know what the official way to do so is as there is no remove option. Screenshot: https://imgur.com/qQvcfHl

austere patio
rich wyvern
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I'm looking to replace a failing Conbee II and am reviewing options. I quite like the idea interfacing over wifi via zigbee2mqtt and dropping the USB tether. Also I would of-course want something with support of more recent features - like those kinetic-powered push buttons. This looks very promising: https://smlight.tech/product/slzb-06m/ - but I am a bit concerned about device support (listing seems only accessible from within Zuckworld). Aside from that, any general feedback on the device would of-course be very appreciated.

finite osprey
austere patio
finite osprey
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do i stop it right after it finished reloading?

finite osprey
finite osprey
umbral bane
#

Hey can someone help me with my Zigbee remote ?

I added it to Zigbee2Mqtt but I can only use X_single and X_double - X_hold is missing as action.

But possible values for my device are:
1_single, 1_double, 1_hold, 2_single, 2_double, 2_hold, 3_single, 3_double, 3_hold, 4_single, 4_double, 4_hold

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/TS0044.html

tidal peak
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hello im having trouble connecting my zbdongle p to z2m

rapid dawnBOT
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@tidal peak I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
sour shadow
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The P dongle is zstack not ezsp

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Remote the ezsp line and restart Z2M

tidal peak
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oops thank you

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trying to launch the web ui says The add-on seems to not be ready, it might still be starting. Do you want to try again?

tidal peak
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Even after the removal of the ezsp line

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Do I have to say adapter: zstack?

deep light
#

I'm using zigbee2mqtt with a Sonoff zigbee dongle. I am constantly having problems with my Aqara H1 switches and their HA dashboard entities being out of sync, but only when I physically use the switches. If I toggle a switch from my HA dashboard, it responds instantly, but if I press the physical switch, it may or may not update in home assistant. Sometimes, the Hue Button that I have doesn't respond at all and I need to press it 4 to 6 times till something happens, but other times it responds as if it were wired.

I know that this is being caused either by WiFi interference (though Z2M is set to channel 25 and I can't find any WiFi networks using that channel using a WiFi analyser app) or a weak mesh (which I can't fix right now because I don't have any other devices, and it will take me a while to be able to buy any).

Is there any alternative way to make the sync more reliable when I use the physical switches? Maybe a automation or something thag pings everything every few minutes? Or is there anything I can configure differently to make things more reliable?

sour shadow
tidal peak
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[18:34:26] INFO: Preparing to start. [18:34:26] INFO: Socat not enableda [18:34:27] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT. Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-05-01 18:34:30: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2024-05-01.18-34-30' filename: log.txt Zigbee2MQTT: info 2024-05-01 18:34:30: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.36.1 (commit #unknown) Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-05-01 18:34:30: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.40.3) Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-05-01 18:34:50: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-05-01 18:34:50: Failed Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-05-01 18:34:50: Check to start zigbee https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/ 20_zigbee2mgtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions Zigbee2MQTT: error 2024-05-01 18:34:50: Exiting.. Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-05-01 18:34:50: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms) at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee herdsman/src/adapter/z stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:103:27) at Controller.start at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29) at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:62:27) (/app/lib/controller.ts:109:27) at start (/app/index.js:107:5

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Sorry for messy formatting I'm on mobile

tidal peak
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should i change the socat port to the port that my mosquitto is running on?

rapid dawnBOT
#

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

sour shadow
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Share the config

tidal peak
sour shadow
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The socat stuff doesn't matter, you're not using it

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You don't have ZHA enabled? Didn't set up any Sonoff integration?

tidal peak
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I have zha enabled

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You want me to share my whole config file?

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But zha did stop working before so that might be the problem

sour shadow
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Ummm

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Do you have two coordinators?

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Tell me you have two

tidal peak
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No, only the zbdongle

sour shadow
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Well...

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You know what?

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You broke your own setup

tidal peak
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Uh oh

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What have I done

sour shadow
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You need one coordinator for ZHA and a different one for Z2M if you want to use both

tidal peak
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OHHHH

sour shadow
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Why you want to use both ... that's the real question

tidal peak
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WELL THAT EXPLAINS A LOT 😭😭😭

#

I also have a hue bridge on the network does that interfere?

sour shadow
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Maybe, but that's not your problem

tidal peak
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I'll delete zha then

sour shadow
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You may need to reboot to allow the Z2M add-on to get the stick, dunno

tidal peak
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Im Just going to reboot everything

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Rebooted everything, deleted zha and STILL it says that it hasn't started

sour shadow
#

What's in the log?

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That's always the question

tidal peak
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zigbee-herdsman [19:12:27] INFO: Preparing to start... [19:12:27] INFO: Socat not enabled [19:12:28] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-05-01 19:12:31: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2024-05-01.19-12-31' filename: log. txt Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-05-01 19:12:31: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.36.1 (commit #unknown) Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-05-01 19:12:31: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.40.3) Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-05-01 19:12:32: zigbee herdsman started (resumed) Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-05-01 19:12:32: Coordinator firmware version: '{"meta": {"maintrel":1,"majorrel":2,"minorrel":7,"produ ct":1,"revision":20210708, "transportrev":2}, "t ype":"zStack3x0"}' Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-05-01 19:12:32: Currently 0 devices are joined: Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-05-01 19:12:32: Zigbee: disabling joining new devices. Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-05-01 19:12:32: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://core mosquito:1883 Zigbee2MQTT: error 2024-05-01 19:12:35: MQTT error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND core-mosquito Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-05-01 19:12:35: MQTT Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-05-01 19:12:37: MQTT Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-05-01 19:12:38: MQTT failed to connect, exiting... Zigbee2MQTT:info 2024-05-01 19:12:35: Stopping zigbee-herdsman... error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND core-mosquito Zigbee2MQTT: error 2024-05-01 Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-05-01 Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-05-01 19:12:44: MQTT error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND core-mosquito error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND core-mosquito 19:12:39: MQTT error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND core-mosquito 19:12:40: MQTT error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND core-mosquito

rapid dawnBOT
#

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

tidal peak
sour shadow
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Hard to make that worse

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That's almost unreadable

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getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND core-mosquito is your problem though

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You do have the MQTT add-on running?

tidal peak
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Yes

sour shadow
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Well, strangely it's not resolving. Worth double checking that it's actually running

tidal peak
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Restarted mqtt. Let's see what happens...

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Same error

limber eagle
#

Here's my question for the day. I have a pretty solid z2m network running using the HA addon. Would there be any benefit to switching z2m to its own lxc separate from HA? And if so...how hard is it to migrate 😬

grim igloo
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i dont really see a benefit other than being able to restart the haos vm and z2m still run. but home assistant would be down so nothing using z2m would be working anyways

#

actually migrating would be easy tho

limber eagle
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Yeah ok I was thinking about being able to restart separately but yeah you are right that I would still need HA to be able to do anything. Doesn't seem worth it. Thanks.

spring olive
#

has anybody here used/have the ikea Fyrtur roller shades?

tidal peak
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im back and turns out there was an error in how i typed "mosquitto" in the config files. however that hasnt changed much because now im met with another error:

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nevermind i put in the wrong password, gosh im such an idiot

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it works!

forest cobalt
umbral bane
limber eagle
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After I did that, z2m recognized the different actions and I was able to program what to do with them in HA.

umbral bane
limber eagle
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Should be fine to do it any time after you have paired the device to z2m.

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If you pull up the device in the z2m UI and click on "exposes" you should be able to see the different actions pop up as you press the buttons on the remote

umbral bane
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Ok than probably it doesn’t work - when I long press a button it just run the single click action

forest cobalt
umbral bane
forest cobalt
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🤔 If you look at the _action sensor in Developer Tools>States, if you press and hold one of the buttons, does it show up as a hold action?

umbral bane
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No only single and double

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I tested now another Remote which z2m is also showing as the TS0044 and there it shows hold

forest cobalt
#

Hmmmm... sounds like the interview didn't go so well when you paired the device. Try unpairing it and then re-pairing it to the nearest router device you are going to be using it at.

umbral bane
forest cobalt
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And good batteries in the remote as well?

umbral bane
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Is there any pattern for hold ? It worked 1 time on my other remote - but often is recognized as single

forest cobalt
umbral bane
forest cobalt
# umbral bane Next to my socket which acts as router

When you did that, did you permit joining on that specific router? In the top bar of Z2M, there's a drop down next to the permit join button. Drop that down and select the router that you are closest to. I'm not saying it's a 100% guarantee it'll work, but sometimes it does.

umbral bane
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I think I got the issue - it’s not really a TS0044, because my second switch is working fine on hold

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The other remote is resetting when I press Button 1 too long

forest cobalt
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lol did you get it off Aliexpress? I've heard this story before regarding Tuya zigbee devices commonly bought off of Aliexpress.

umbral bane
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Amazon but for sure it’s also on AliExpress

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But in the description it says 12 Scene switch with single double and hold 😒

forest cobalt
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Huh... weird, but I'm also not surprised at all, tbh.

umbral bane
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Looks good 👍 I will give the T1 a try -m

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But thanks - maybe the 1st remote is faulty but anyway hold is now working for the 2nd 🤗

forest cobalt
umbral bane
coarse musk
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Deprecated driver 'ezsp' currently in use, 'ember' will become the officially supported EmberZNet driver in next release. If using Zigbee2MQTT see https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/discussions/21462

I had this warning n my Z2MQTT logs after updating it today. I kind if just 'use' my yellow and don't follow things like zigbee drivers. Is there a TL;DR on what actions I need to take to keep things working?

carmine hamlet
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that's very exciting

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change ezsp to ember in the Z2M config

coarse musk
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Is that all? the link talks about flashing firmware version and stuff. What about it is exciting? ezsp and ember both mean the same to me...

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I'll do a backup just in-case 😉

carmine hamlet
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The fact that that controller will be officially supported. It's always been experimental

coarse musk
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well agreed, that does sound exciting.

limber eagle
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So that's it? Just change the config and reboot?

coarse musk
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haven't tried it yet, will get some work out of the way first.
I'm planning to do this first to ensure I have up to date zigbee firmware. I don't how to check my firmware version currently installed.

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looks like the required 7.4.x firmware through the NabuCasa instruction is beta

mental granite
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headsup: if anyone here has a silvercrest/lidl ethernet gateway, then 2024.5 breaks it

ashen bluff
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That's vague.

mental granite
ashen bluff
mental granite
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google didn't return these for me, only the forums one. Seems core issue is the same.

coarse musk
placid dust
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tried searching for an alternate solution on forum but didnt find any.

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would appreciate any input or help 🙂

ashen bluff
placid dust
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2024-05-02 14:55:55: New connection from 172.30.32.2:47992 on port 1883.
2024-05-02 14:55:55: Client <unknown> closed its connection.
2024-05-02 14:57:55: New connection from 172.30.32.2:36480 on port 1883.
2024-05-02 14:57:55: Client <unknown> closed its connection.
2024-05-02 14:59:55: New connection from 172.30.32.2:52806 on port 1883.
2024-05-02 14:59:55: Client <unknown> closed its connection.

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the circle at mosquitto broker is green

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tried to remove server settings, still didnt work

ashen bluff
#

What do the logs say now without server?

placid dust
# ashen bluff What do the logs say now without `server`?

same - z2m: Logging to console, file (filename: log.log)
[2024-05-02 15:38:12] info: z2m: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.37.0 (commit #unknown)
[2024-05-02 15:38:12] info: z2m: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.45.0)
[2024-05-02 15:38:13] info: zh:zstack:znp: Opening SerialPort with {"path":"/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_8e9dc266ada4ed11a71cf3a32981d5c7-if00-port0","baudRate":115200,"rtscts":false,"autoOpen":false}
[2024-05-02 15:38:13] info: zh:zstack:znp: Serialport opened
[2024-05-02 15:38:13] info: z2m: zigbee-herdsman started (resumed)
[2024-05-02 15:38:13] info: z2m: Coordinator firmware version: '{"meta":{"maintrel":1,"majorrel":2,"minorrel":7,"product":1,"revision":20230507,"transportrev":2},"type":"zStack3x0"}'
[2024-05-02 15:38:13] info: z2m: Currently 0 devices are joined:
[2024-05-02 15:38:13] info: z2m: Zigbee: disabling joining new devices.
[2024-05-02 15:38:13] info: z2m: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://core-mosquitto:1883
[2024-05-02 15:38:13] error: z2m: MQTT failed to connect, exiting...
[2024-05-02 15:38:13] info: z2m: Stopping zigbee-herdsman...

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on HA supervisor - 2024-05-02 15:38:10.069 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.api.ingress] Ingress error: Cannot connect to host 172.30.33.1:8099 ssl:default [Connect call failed ('172.30.33.1', 8099)]

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mosquitto - 2024-05-02 15:39:55: New connection from 172.30.32.2:54032 on port 1883.
2024-05-02 15:39:55: Client <unknown> closed its connection.

fleet forum
#

Hi, is there a built in card that shows all information about a zigbee power plug?

sour shadow
steep jolt
#

Hi everyone, I currently have a SMLIGHT SLZB-06P7 and intending to return it to get the SMLIGHT SLZB-06 instead. Can i check do i need to repair all my devices? Running on Z2M and according to the website, it only says that I need to repair if changing to a more powerful adapter

forest cobalt
sour shadow
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Re-pairing isn't required moving between CCxxxx chips, but do read the FAQ on moving between adapters

steep jolt
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got it. thank you guys! it is a CC2652 and CC2652P7 btw

forest cobalt
#

You shouldn't have to repair. CC chips are awesome. 🙂

sour shadow
#

All you'll need is ||to change the IEEE address||

heady sleet
#

I have a ConBee II running Z2M, and about 8 Third Reality plugs (which are also routers). Can't seem to get a stable network going. It works great at first and then within a few days random devices become unresponsive. I always get a "Failed to execute LQI" error on at least one, but it's never the same one.

My 2.4 is on 11, my Zigbee is on 11 and my Hue is on 15, so no overlap on my WiFi. I have an extender on the ConBee, it's pretty far away from all other interference.

I had moved from ZHA where I couldn't keep a stable connection to anything at all, so Z2M has been much better, but still not great.

What to do from here? Is there a recommended distance the nodes should be from each other? I think between all of them it's no more than like 20-25', some through a wall but mainly down hallways.

If it's the stick, what should I be looking to replace the ConBee with?

austere patio
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Forcing your network to channel 11 will make it collide with 2.4GHz WiFi on channel 1. What WiFi networks do your neighbors have?

heady sleet
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There's very little interference with the neighbors, I'm the last house in a subdivision. I only pick up oa couple other networks that aren't mine on channel 6, and they're very weak signal

forest cobalt
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Typically, you want your Zigbee channel to be as far away from your WiFi channel(s) as possible. If your WiFi AP is on 11, you could try moving that to channel 1 or 6 and see if that helps.

heady sleet
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I can move my WiFi to 1 but then wouldn't I have to move my Zigbee off of 11 and 15?

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Since 2.4 Channel 1 overlaps 11-15 Zigbee?

#

Isn't 2.4 Channel 11 furthest from Zigbee 11?

forest cobalt
#

Yeah, sorry, didn't finish my thought there at all (multitasking between work and here lol). You'll want to move yourr mesh to ch 20 (or maybe 25).

heady sleet
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So move WiFi to 1, Zigbee and Hue to 20 and 25 respectively (or whatever gets them furthest from WiFI 1). I'll try that

forest cobalt
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Hue I would leave at 15 unless you are having issues there. Typically, you want those 2 meshes to be separated as well.

heady sleet
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But doesn't 15 overlap the tail end of 2.4 Channel 1 or is it not enough to matter?

forest cobalt
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It shouldn't be enough to matter provided your Hue mesh is strong (good amount of bulbs, etc). For whatever reason, Hue hubs always seem to be good at filtering out interference.

heady sleet
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Yeah, Hue has been pretty solid. I did have an issue originally before I knew about WiFi/Zigbee interference and they were running on the same band, but once I updated it on the bridge it's been great (unless my wife turns off lights with the switch and knocks out bulbs as routers, lol).

forest cobalt
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In all the years I ran a Hue hub, it stayed on ch 15 with my APs on 1 and 6 and my Z2M mesh on 20. That was with my APs BLASTING power.

heady sleet
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Will give all that a try, thanks.

If I do decide to try a different stick, what's the recommendation? Since i've seen lots of complaints about the ConBee 2 in general

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Also, and this is going down a rabbit hole, is there a way to have the coordinator more in the middle of the home? Right now my PC running HA and the main router for my mesh network are in my office in the very corner of the home and would have to stay here, but maybe having a Zigbee hub somewhere centered? I can't run ethernet (renting).

forest cobalt
#

Anything with the CC2652 chips would be a good choice. I prefer a networked CC2652P2 coordinator myself (from Tubezb). But Zigstars are also good along with the SMLIGHT SLZB-06. The Sonoff Dongle-P is also a solid choice.

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A networked coordinator is best (imho), but does require an ethernet drop. Even if you can run a cable somewhere, that would help. There are also options for wireless USB transmitter/receivers but I've always been leary of those.

sour shadow
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Tube's MGM24 based (network) coordinator is probably your best choice, even on Z2M

#

People using that have stable, responsive, meshes of 300+ devices... which isn't possible on the CC2652 chip

forest cobalt
#

I've been drooling over the MGM24 kit for a while now...

sour shadow
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If I was starting now that's what I'd use

forest cobalt
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I don't even see them on his site anymore 😦

sour shadow
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Even if I prefer the simplicity of USB connection over network connected

forest cobalt
#

But the CC2652P7 looks good too.

#

Ah, there it is! Thanks!

heady sleet
#

is PoE not recommended for something like that

heady sleet
forest cobalt
sinful fjord
#

I migrated my radio to a skyconnect, and I think I finally got all of my devices connected and working. However, under the device info for the controller, it still doesn't show any "connected devices" like the previous controller did. They do show as connected in the network visualization tab. Is this a problem that needs to be fixed?

forest cobalt
heady sleet
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Problem is I'm renting and don't want to spend a ton of time and money putting in permanent infrastructure that I have to revert when I move out. Like I'd much rather have smart light switches or Shellys instead of individual smart bulbs with a dumb switch, but don't want to undo it all when I move out. So I need to balance performance/stability with that unfortunately (which goes beyond Zigbee, like for networking, my Asus system is using 5-2 as the backhaul, no direct ethernet drops)

sinful fjord
forest cobalt
heady sleet
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Yeah, I suppose power isn't the issue, more the other way (getting ethernet to each room). So that one you recommended would easily work with my setup, plugged right into my Asus node upstairs, dead center of all the Zigbee devices

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
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Hell, a string and 2 cans would be better than the Conbee II imho. lmao (I'm kidding, but not, but am, but not). 😉

sinful fjord
heady sleet
#

I threw the Conbee on an Amazon wish list last Christmas and forgot about it, parents ended up getting it, so I figured I'd give it a shot. Right when I was getting deep into HA but didn't know enough about Zigbee, lol. So it's served its purpose

forest cobalt
remote marlin
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hello

#

I need some help, almost all day try to make a Skyconnect USB to work without success...

#

I try upgrade firmware, revert it... and nothing seems to work.

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On windows device management it appears with a yellow warning say it lacks of drivers.

#

I already try to install drivers, make it appear on COM ports devices, still not success to appear on HA

#

I'm using VMware for HA

#

what i'm doing wrong?

sour shadow
#
  1. What firmware did you flash to it?
  2. Did you configure VMWare to map the stick to the VM?
remote marlin
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i think it got now 7.1.1.0

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and on VMware I only have a option to add devices connected to usb, doesn't allow me to select what devices are

#

it can be a problem with VMware?

austere patio
#

It's 100% a problem with your VM USB passthrough

void patrol
#

Looking for outdoor rated ZigBee (USA Based use) outlets, anyone have good experience with a specific one?

remote marlin
#

on windows the usb should stay with yellow warning or list on COM port part?

forest cobalt
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How do you have it connected to HA? ZHA? Z2M? Also, what kind of coordinator do you have and how many router devices?

steep jolt
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Should I return my slzb-06p7? I read that the +20db does not work with the current cc2652p7 yet.. thinking of returning it and get the slzb-06 instead. Anyone can give some advice?

sour shadow
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There's zero point in helping the coordinator shout louder when the devices can't shout louder back

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You're more likely to benefit from reducing the transmit power

steep jolt
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Ohh interesting. So if you were to choose, you would keep the slzb-06p7? At least it has newer chip

sour shadow
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Yes

steep jolt
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Got it thanks

proper imp
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hi what is the best usb dongle that works with aqara wall switch h1 and wireless mini switch without needing a aqara hub

forest cobalt
proper imp
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I thought that the sonoff allowed me to replicate the aqara hub

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I'm new to this

forest cobalt
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Well, it does. It allows you to pair Zigbee devices to your mesh without requiring their hub. But, Aqara devices WANT to be on their hub and some different manufactures don't stick to the spec as closely as they should.

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So, if you want a well performing Zigbee network (mesh), you hhave to know about the devices you want to put on it. Otherwise, you're going to have a miserable experience.

proper imp
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that's why I'm here

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to learn

forest cobalt
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Alright... first things first... I'm assuming that the H1 and the mini switch are your first 2 devices, right?

proper imp
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no I have eve plugs as well, so here is my setup

Aqara m2 > h1 and mini switch
Apple tv > eve energy plugs

I want the nas to replace the atv and m2 so one device controls everything

forest cobalt
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Ohhhhhh right. I remember this conversation now...

proper imp
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I know it's stupid and spending money for no benefit but I like less plugs and lower electricity use

forest cobalt
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No, I get it... consolidation isn't a bad thing at all... So, the Eve plugs, I'm pretty sure you'll have to go with a dongle that is supported by OTBR (skyconnect and I think maybe one or two others?). The ATV, that one might be tricky if you have other Thread/HK devices in your home. But, throwing on a Zigbee dongle without a good amount of routers is going to be a BAD experience for you.

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TBH, it's not always about IF you can consolidate, but also if the experience on the other end will be better. In your case, I don't think it would be better unless you really want to start building out your Zigbee mesh. Router devices (things powered by your mains) would be your first purchase after a coordinator. Then and ONLY then would I migrate your Aqara kit over.

proper imp
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this is just for my bedroom and its literally just the stated devices

forest cobalt
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Same principal applies though. A Zigbee mesh is exactly that, a mesh. The coordinator shouldn't do all the work of routing and such. But, let me ask, do you have a neutral wire attached to the H1 switch?

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If you do, that would count as your routing device.

proper imp
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no neutral

forest cobalt
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Ok, so, you're still going to want to get at least one routing device... a smart plug, bulb, something.

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Even on a small mesh, you should have at least one routing device. While the Aqaras can connect directly to the coordinator, chances are they will fall off at some point and you'll have to repair them. Plus, if you want to add anything else to it, you'll have even more problems.

proper imp
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I wouldn't know what to add

forest cobalt
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Like I said... a smart plug hidden somewhere in your room or a smart bulb. Those would be easy.

proper imp
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I'm from the uk if that makes a difference

forest cobalt
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Not really... concepts are still the same. Just availability of devices are different 🙂

proper imp
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so even though I only have the 2 zigbee devices I would still need a router for stability

forest cobalt
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Pretty much. Honestly, if you have the M2 hub already, I would just stick with that until if/when you want to add more devices. Like I said, consolidation is great, but that's only if it will be better in the end. Plus, you're going to need OTBR for the Eve devices as well.

proper imp
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ok

proper imp
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are there any buttons I don't mind replacing the mini switch with a button

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preferably with 2 buttons

forest cobalt
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There are a lot of button devices. But, what do you want to connect it to? Also, what style are you looking for?

proper imp
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to turn light on/off and turn a smart plug on/ff, ideally A lights on, lights off, fan on/off

limber eagle
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
proper imp
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I do , I meant that would be a routr

forest cobalt
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Nope. Battery devices in Zigbee are never (99.999999% of the time at least) routers. You'd need something like a smart plug or a smart bulb that could route.

proper imp
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ok I understand

sour shadow
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They're never routers, but not all mains powered devices are routers

gleaming merlin
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I have a device that has a troubleshooting tip to remove it without the force option, but it keeps timing out (tuya motion sensor), are there any tricks to remove without forcing?

limber eagle
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Ok this is going to sound crazy maybe

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I have a device showing up in my list of z2m devices and I really don't know what it is

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I'm having trouble explaining lol

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There is an entry in my list of z2m devices that is named 0x001788010c780f90

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It is a Hue white bulb

forest cobalt
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lol what kind of device does it say it is? Manufacturer?

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Hmmmm

limber eagle
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I have many Hue white bulbs but they are all named and working correctly

forest cobalt
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Neighbor bought a Hue bulb maybe?

limber eagle
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I have force deleted this bulb twice and it keeps showing back up

forest cobalt
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Block it.

limber eagle
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Even if my controller is not in pairing mode lol

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I will block but I was hoping to solve first

carmine hamlet
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The only logical thing is to write an automation that repeatedly turns it on and off forever

forest cobalt
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lmao this 100%.

limber eagle
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It would be hilarious if it's a neighbor's! I've been toggling it a bunch each of the last couple nights 😂

carmine hamlet
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You'll either find it or piss someone off, both positive outcomes

limber eagle
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Today I'm using the blink function hoping to find it because it's driving me bonkers 😂

half cradle
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You need to write a Morse code message

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But you need to make it really elaborate, like horror movie message in a bottle or something

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I mean you could start with SOS because most people could figure that out.

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Make that for a week, then make the Morse code more complex

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I mean, you could also try and look at the z2m map, might not be perfect, but might help narrow

grim igloo
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dowsing rods maybe?

limber eagle
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I might have broken my z2m and I don't know what I did

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But anyway the addon logs can see all my devices but the front end is empty

limber eagle
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I guess it's not fully broken since the MQTT server can still see and control the devices. So I just screwed up the front end somehow.

tidal dove
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Hi everyone, I'm currently attempting to migrate my Zigbee dongles in Z2M and found some instructions involving a file called database.db. However in my Zigbee2MQTT Folder I can only find a database.db.backup. Does anyone know where the correct database is? Its much appreciated!

sour shadow
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What instructions are you following? Are you running Z2M as an add-on?

tidal dove
sour shadow
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I'd guess the add-on is doing strange things - when you've stopped Z2M is the timestamp of the backup file the same as when you stopped Z2M?

tidal dove
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Hmm wait. On OS level I can see the database.db file

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I was checking this in VS Code addon

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But why is it missing there?

ashen bluff
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The VS Code addon's config excludes a lot of things by default.

tidal dove
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Do you have any suggestion how I can download this file?

sour shadow
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Use the file editor add-on?
Or the Samba add-on?

tidal dove
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Ill check it out, thanks!!

ashen bluff
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You can use VS Code to edit its own settings.

tidal dove
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Thanks everyone, I got it working! Successfully migrated!! 😄

tender rock
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Hiya - I've got an issue with a TRV - the general connection goes TRV -> zigbee2mqtt -> Mosquitto -> HA, but because the TRV has a built in schedule, HA throws errors about the messages being too long (>255 characters), what's the best way to get around this?

trim stream
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Question, wondering if there's a pre made ZigBee <> addressable LED controller? If so, what's a good search term for it? If this is off topic where should it go?

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
tender rock
forest cobalt
trim stream
forest cobalt
tender rock
trim stream
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I get that. Looking for custom cabinet lighting.. this will let ll me light per item on the shelves.

tender rock
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(though personally I'd go for a non-tuya one if you can)

trim stream
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That does the color, but not per led addressable. And ya, many tuya things are kinda dodgy.

tender rock
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I've never really had a problem with the devices, but the tuya cloud is a pain to bypass

trim stream
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Thanks for the sanity check folk

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Ah . Their ZigBee battery powered items tend to lose link

tender rock
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Ah fair, the main thing I have from them is my AC which is very un-battery powered

tender rock
loud bobcat
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Hmmm.. so this is an odd one. z2m sees all my devices normally as i'd expect it to (and i can control them) but some devices don't get exposed to the rest of ha? "This entity is no longer being provided by the mqtt integration" in an orange error box...

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vbut it's only some... others are fine.

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entities says it's been restored ... what is going on and.... how do i fix it?

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i've restarted mosquitto - i stopped z2m too - then started it up after mosquitto was up and happy...

forest cobalt
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Check for that entity name with a _2. It happens in HA sometimes that a created entity name sometimes collides and it can't be restored, so HA creates a new one with a _2.

loud bobcat
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no such thing. my "example" entity is light.0_hall_wc_0 - that's misbehaving (ie restopred entitye but not provided by mqtt)

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there is no _2

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searching for all entities with wc in them... 🙂

forest cobalt
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Hmmmm, if you go to devices in the MQTT integration in HA, do you see the device there?

loud bobcat
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how do i look at th em there specificallty?

forest cobalt
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Settings>Devices & Services>MQTT (click on the device count in the lower left hand box). That will bring up the list of MQTT devices in HA.

loud bobcat
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(going to try an ha upgrade now just in case)

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the device is listed iin settings -> devices & servicwes -> devices - 0_hall_wc_0 is there coming from mqtt

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as you can see - it's greyed out though...

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z2m can turn the light on and off and it's fine over that side of the fence

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like some entities it has are there, some are not...

forest cobalt
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Yeah, that's odd. I'm thinking HA got confused on the mqtt discovery.

loud bobcat
forest cobalt
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I would unpair the light from Z2M, give HA a minute or two to clear it out (and manually do it if not) and then readd it to Z2M and see if that corrects it.

loud bobcat
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oh dear

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can i avoiiod that?

forest cobalt
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Maybe... yeah... try this... rename it in Z2M (and make sure to toggle "Rename in Home Assistant" and see if it recreates the device with the new name.

loud bobcat
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i have like maybe 50+ devices that would need that... and many of these will require i unscrew lamps from their fittings so i can press the reset button...

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so at least you're as mystified as i am... 🙂

forest cobalt
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Hmmmmm... I seem to have missed the part of "other devices"...

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hahaha that's not a good thing!!!

loud bobcat
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i guess a rename in z2m to unstick something maybe

forest cobalt
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That's my thought, yeah

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Get HA to bring in another copy of the device through mqtt disco and then allow you to remove the orphaned device.

loud bobcat
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FYI ... my main ha node just went dark about an hour ago - couldnt ssh into ha ot the ha kvm host ... was dead to the world (but could ping it)

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i pulled the power and rebooted and when it came back up .. i now have these devices partly broken

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if that helsp job any memories of similar things?

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let me just finish an upgrade cycle just in case is fixes things...

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then if it's still like that i'll try the rename thing...

forest cobalt
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Hmmmm... that could be an issue... if the hidden .storage files got messed up for some reason, that could explain the issue.

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But yeah, that sounds like a solid plan to me.

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If nothing else, it should at least get your devices back and then you can play clean up on asile HA. 🙂

loud bobcat
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i'd love to klnow which storage files i should poke at... 🙂

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for once my ha+z2m has actually been stable for a few months... 🙂

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until today

forest cobalt
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Nope. 🙂 I NEVER recommend poking around the .storage files. But, there are plenty of forum posts about that. lol

loud bobcat
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i wonder if i perhaps has some backup that ha has made ...

forest cobalt
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OR, alternately, when HA was unresponsive, it was still writing to the file system and then the power cut may have corrupted something.

loud bobcat
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wait... upgrade of ha and the lot.. and it's come back!

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it fixed itself in the process of the upgrade... WTF...

forest cobalt
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lmao... I'm going to have whiplash at the end of this.

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Welcome to HA?

loud bobcat
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hehehe y eah... hmm i've been running it now for what almost 2 years... this has been a lot of pain.

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it's not just ha - it'z zigbee. my zb network falls over if i have > about 100 devices on it. i eventually figured that out and had to now run 3 rpi's with 3 separate sonoff zigbee coordinators and split my devices across them and then bind it together with home assitant remote

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it 90% works - remote bound devices dont quite work the same as local but i can make it work

forest cobalt
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lol I'm 7+(?), but yeah, I've had some painful times myself. My current setup has been rock solid for a really long time though.

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Hmmmm... wait, 3 meshes? Seems a bit overkill. How many routing devices do you have?

loud bobcat
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7 years! wow... you will have seen some battles 🙂

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ummm

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total routing devices?

forest cobalt
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Yeah, how many mains powered devices? Bulbs, switches, plugs, etc?

loud bobcat
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on each network 73, 74,28

forest cobalt
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OH! Ok, yeah, 3 meshes makes sense now

loud bobcat
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106 ikea gu10 smart bulbs.

forest cobalt
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holy.... f**k lmao

loud bobcat
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i had kind of hoped they would do the trick for a solid zb mesh - with them all over the house i'd never be short of a router....

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little did i know that having TOO many routers will be a problem 🙂

forest cobalt
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Eh, Ikea kit is hit or miss.

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I pretty much yanked all the ikea bulbs out of my mesh because they sucked at routing and caused more problems.

loud bobcat
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yeah - the problem was getting gu10's that can to cool/warm at some decent rpice in quantity... and ikea was the way to go really.

forest cobalt
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Yup, true. Hue GU-10s are way too expensive.

loud bobcat
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as this was a whole house renovation... i kind of had to make a decision 🙂

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i might eventually replace them over time as they die...

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but 3 networks was a viable solution so i went that way.

forest cobalt
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tbh, I kinda was over Zigbee bulbs and went wifi for almost all of mine. Couldn't be happier.

loud bobcat
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i wrestled with this pretty much for a year or so...

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hmm wifi would mean i'd have to run a 16/16 ...

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i have far too many things 🙂

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203 zb devices on my 3 nets.

forest cobalt
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lmao you and me both. I justified getting my Unifi gear upgraded by all the WiFi devices I have. lol

loud bobcat
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and tbh i liked zb because... i didnt have any fear of devices phoning home... they cant. 🙂

forest cobalt
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That's what my firewall rules are for... 😉 But yeah, I get it. I liked having ZB lights, but I was getting ready to hit 120+ routing devices and really didn't want to run multiple meshes if I could avoid it.

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So I went with Wiz bulbs and never looked back.

tender rock
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interesting going for bulb level rather than at the switch - i found that much easier to implement as it's only 1/2 per room at most

loud bobcat
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yeah - i have the ubiquitii 48 port poe switch + 5 ubiquity wifi ap;'s - so i certainly have the coverage... but i like to keep my boatloads of cheap-made-in-china-and-unlikely-to-ever-get-updates home gadgets in their world away from my LAN

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also io kind of thought wifi builbs might have migh higher idle power consumptioon ... no?

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
loud bobcat
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@tender rock yeah - went for build level for gu10-'s because... my wife hates yellow light - she likes the clinical white one and i hate white - i prefer warm yellow. so i made it a "slide the slider" solution so she can't complain 🙂

forest cobalt
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But I have them all on their own VLAN that I open up once a month in case there's an update to the firmware... then they get blocked again.

loud bobcat
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i cant choose color unless i go smart builb for that... i do have main room lap lights and wall lights that are regular dumb bulbs with dimmer controllers stck in the wall or ceiling right where the lamp/light is wired in.

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@ornate thistle yeah - same as you - cant do "colors" without the smart ones.

tender rock
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haha fair (to both of you)
i was mostly interested in the hallway lights turning on when i got home from work in the winter, and room lights turning off when the room is empty cos i'm real bad at forgetting

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so nice and simple

forest cobalt
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I actually went with the Aqara wall rockers (neutral/non-neutral). Not a single button on them actually controls "lights". They all have automations in HA that do weird stuff lol

tender ridge
loud bobcat
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@tender rock i was renovating my house. i wanted to solve a bunch opf problems. 1. where to put the light switch - i made it a "stick a wireless zb switch wherever i like" problem instead of a "pay $1000's to electricians to keep rewiring stuff"... ans my wife is pretty bad at making decisions... i know where i'd want switches but i know she'd be unhappy 🙂 so made it a software + 3m tape problem instead 🙂

forest cobalt
loud bobcat
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  1. solve the color of the lighting fights (cold white vs warm white).
tender rock
loud bobcat
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  1. also have auto-lights. i have the hallway lights in my house all auto turn on when some aqara motion sensors ssee you - also utility rooma nd garage as you're always carrying things in/out of those and dont have a free hand 🙂
tender rock
tender ridge
loud bobcat
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  1. outdoor lighting is also controlled by hue outdoor PIR sensors now - the cctv cams dont do the motion detection well. they keep thinking bushes/tress moving is motion or cars on the road and their lights shining across my driveway as they drive past is motion. i'm relegating the cctv to just stream to disk and store stuff for when i need it
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interestingly the cctv streaming has proven very useful - aliexpress wanted proof for me disputing and wanting a refund for something that was never delivered. they claim it was delivered at some time... so i sent the vide of the entire hour slot during when the delivery should have happened to show no one came... 🙂 easiest way ever of proving "no delivery" 🙂

forest cobalt
loud bobcat
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@tender rock btw - i don't plan on taking my smarts with me. i bought the house. not moving in a hurry. moving means spending a fortune in stamp duty to buy a new house. it alway was like $100k of stamp duty to buy it and i got a discount... so the smarts will come with the house one day for whoever buys it - it'll be debugged by then i hope 🙂

tender ridge
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Good approach, similar here, except I kept physical switches wherever possible, 10min without light if stack goes down is, not perfect

loud bobcat
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@tender ridge if the power goes out... i have no power so no lights... i dont care smart of not 🙂 and it's very rare to ever have power out... other than "builders doing stuff" power has gone out once in 2y. the entire suburb was out of power.

forest cobalt
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lol yeah, I thought about having physical backups, but decided that for only the really important lights, those can be toggled via the lamp switches. Wiz bulbs have this cool feature called WizClick. You can set it up to do scenes and stuff by toggling the power switch on them.

loud bobcat
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i still have "master" light switches tghat have been covered up by plastic covers so no one can toggle them without sliding the cover off... but this is a maintenance thing - i can pull the power to all lights in any room with a mechanical switch if i want...

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that allows me to safely replace any smart controllers or bulbs or light fittings in that room ...

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but as a side effect many of my lights (the ikea gu10s" b default come back on as "on"

tender rock
loud bobcat
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not "last state". so in a dire emergency i can toggle that switch off and then back on and i have light if the smarts mess up for too long

forest cobalt
loud bobcat
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@tender rock oh bwhahaha still have radiators.. i see... i nuked the radiators from space (only way to make sure). it's all zigbee thermostats in every room + hydrolic under floor heating through the house. this is why it makes no sense ... if i pulles the bulbs and switches stuck to walls - i'd half-cripple the house with switches missing and ir motion sensors gone - with dumb gu10's i'd then have to buy and they will then be permantently on as they have to be on to be smart controlled and the other laps on the same circuit require it to be always on too...

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so i cant really take some of the stuff and not others... so the smarts go with the house. hell i'll prbably leave them the poe switch, wifi ap's and even my router pc too as well as all the HA stuff - the 4 android tablets on walls to controll stuff etc. - all come with the house. i'd have to figure out how to od a handover though for credentials....

tender rock
loud bobcat
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@forest cobalt i'd have to set "last state" on 100+ of them.. and i kind of like the emergency mode i get with the default

tender rock
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at least the switches are connected to actual wall switches, so even without any connectivity they work

loud bobcat
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if the house loses power and it comes back - they all come on indeed... but thats fine - as its so rare - just turn them all off. if it happesn when i'm away my vpn back home lets me remote turn them off anyway

forest cobalt
loud bobcat
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yeah - i know

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i can toggle it there...

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but i have to do that for 100+ of them

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one at a time...

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anwyay - crisis fixed.. time to update my 2 slave ha's and get food! thanks muchly for the suggestions and converstion 🙂

forest cobalt
lilac wharf
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so far so good with them on my end with zigbee2mqtt

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no issues pairing or otherwise

coarse musk
#

Anyone come across any ZigBee sensor for rain sensing? Kind of like what you see in a car windscreen?

I have some outdoor blinds that are automated to come down when raining, based on my weather station. Only issue is it's a tipping bucket gauge which tips every 0.3mm or so, which is a fair while if it's only a light drizzle. Looking for a cheap and reliable way to get a Boolean state for raining or not

half cradle
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Leak sensor?

coarse musk
jagged ivy
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Does anyone have any experience with the Aqara light sensor? I'm thinking about picking one up to throw in my garage to improve my automation for turning on lights when it's dark.

forest cobalt
jagged ivy
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Any particular reason to go one over the other? I hadn't decided which specifically I was targeting

forest cobalt
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Well, with the P2, you get motion AND lux... with the T1, you just get lux and I think they are comparable in price (maybe like $5 difference maybe?). Since they have the same sensor for lux, you get more features with the P2.

jagged ivy
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It looks like the P2 is Matter vs Zigbee, does that matter?

grim igloo
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if you want to use a protocol a lot of us consider completely broken yeah it matters

forest cobalt
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Yeah, I thought they had a Zigbee P2, but apparently not. But, you can also go with the P1 as well (it's usually on sale a lot of times (depending on where you are in the world)).

jagged ivy
grizzled dagger
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Hello, I need help. I've just set up a new Home assistant. And so far I have connected 10 devices, these all run via Zigbee2mqtt. 2 of the devices are remote controls from Ikea, the Ikea Styrbar. With both, however, I have the problem that functions for the control are missing. The first remote control lacks the "right hold" button and the second remote control lacks the "left hold", "right hold" and "arrow left release" functions. What could be the reason for this? And what is the best way to fix this? It would be really great if someone could help me with this.

forest cobalt
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Just for reference, I have about 6 P1s here that I use for lux and PIR motion.

forest cobalt
grizzled dagger
forest cobalt
# grizzled dagger 5 of them are router devices

Alright. In Z2M, when you go to re-pair the remotes, do not pair them to the coordinator. Pair them to the nearest router they will live at. You can do that in the top bar of Z2M by using the drop down button on the Disable/Permit join button.

grizzled dagger
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I've already reconnected them several times, so new keys have been added, but the ones that are still missing just don't want to come. The log always says that the interview was successful.

forest cobalt
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Fresh batteries?

grim igloo
grizzled dagger
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
grizzled dagger
forest cobalt
grizzled dagger
forest cobalt
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What version of Z2M are you running?

grizzled dagger
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I also got this error message: Failed to configure 'Fernbedienung 2', attempt 2 (Error: Bind 0x30fb10fffed268e2/1 genLevelCtrl from '0x00212effff085ba7/1' failed (waiting for response TIMEOUT) at DeconzAdapter.bind (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/deconz/adapter/deconzAdapter.ts:774:19) at runNextTicks (node:internal/process/task_queues:60:5) at processTimers (node:internal/timers:509:9) at Endpoint.bind (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/model/endpoint.ts:464:13) at configure (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman-converters/src/lib/modernExtend.ts:133:17) at Object.configure (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman-converters/src/index.ts:160:21) at Configure.configure (/app/lib/extension/configure.ts:121:13) at EventEmitter.wrappedCallback (/app/lib/eventBus.ts:174:17))

forest cobalt
grizzled dagger
forest cobalt
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This sounds like Z2M is still having issues with the Strybar remotes. I'd pop over into the Z2M discord and see if anyone there might have some answers in the general channel: https://discord.gg/YZVPCKPz

grizzled dagger
green hornet
#

Can I post a screenshot here?

rapid dawnBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

warped gazelle
#

hello, I have to start the alarm on a zigbee smoke detector to test it. In the help it says that I have to publish an mqtt message with a certain payload. But how can I publish an mqtt message? I have Zigbee2Mqtt and Mosquitto as a broker, but I didnt found any tool where I can write the message. Also tried to search on google but didnt find any help.... and this seems strange, I'm sure I'm doing something wrong and I dont understand how to do it

woeful elk
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
woeful elk
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based on tuya, but a custom firmware to add the stuff it doesn't currently have

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like router mode etc

limber eagle
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Why is the option to rename devices gone from my z2m? 😢

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Oh it's all in settings now? That's going to take some getting used to lol

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
limber eagle
woeful elk
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it doesn't exist for that hardware yet 🙂

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but the dude ordered one to take a looksee

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
woeful elk
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I need more routers :p

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I have 0

forest cobalt
woeful elk
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😄

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tbh, everything still works, so eh

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but having an actual mesh might be more interesting lol

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This is ok, right?

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The red device is red cos I pulled the batteries out 😄

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anywho - its 2am, I should be in bed 😄 😄 😄

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
opaque pike
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how do i get debug logging back in z2m?

forest cobalt
dire current
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So Zigbee is not just regular Wireless LAN?

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wich Zigbee coordinator is recommented?

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and can i controll with it also my bosch smart home devices?

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
dire current
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so i can again not controll my hue lamps in the garden without multiple bridges or multiple Zigbee coordinator? 😦 that was the main reason why i get a NUC for Home Assistant ^^"

forest cobalt
dire current
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and to get rid of all of the bridges

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i tought i can controll everything with wlan... ^^"

forest cobalt
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You CAN attach your Hue bulbs to HA directly, but you do need a coordinator to do that.

forest cobalt
dire current
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is matter using wlan? or it also require zigbee?

forest cobalt
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Matter uses WiFi or Thread. But it’s BUGGY.

dire current
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gosh ^^ what actually is buggy? matter itself or the metter plugin in home assistant?

forest cobalt
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Matter itself. It was rolled out too soon, only supports a small portion of devices and tends to not be stable at all.

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Plus, finding Matter devices versus Zigbee devices can be both challenging and expensive.

dire current
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Since I approached the topic believing that everything would become easier, but it is actually making everything much more complicated, I think I will give up on the plan to use a home assistant. I see no more added value. Then I have to deal with 3 Hue bridges and 2 Bosch controllers, adding another device that brings more complexity to everything...

forest cobalt
dire current
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I understand now. It's just frustrating... I need 2 Hue bridges and 2 Bosch bridges for my apartment because otherwise the signal isn't strong enough throughout the apartment. And despite having 2 Hue bridges, sometimes the sockets in the office are not reachable...

I have perfect WiFi everywhere because I have various repeaters, which in turn are connected directly to the router via cable. So it's optimally solved... But since all smart devices do their own thing and use their own protocols, it doesn't help at all. ^^

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maybe some day matter works like expected

forest cobalt
austere patio
dire current
austere patio
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No, I mean you mention signal quality but you have 2 Hue bridges. Why not use one bridge? Separate networks won't mesh.

dire current
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because with one bridge i have no connection to the devices in my sleeping room

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and i have a 3rd hue bridge in my basements

forest cobalt
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You would need to extend the mesh using routing devices (plugs, switches, etc).

austere patio
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You shouldn't need 5 (!) Zigbee bridges for a single apartment

dire current
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i need to enable this mesh stuff? i read about it but it seems not working for me

austere patio
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As @forest cobalt mentioned, do you have any bulbs or other devices that stay on all the time? Or is it just sensors?

dire current
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But I will never get rid of the bridge in the basement because it's 8 floors below me.

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i have only lights and my girlfriend is turning them sometimes off on the switch

forest cobalt
dire current
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i have great wlan in my basement ^^

forest cobalt
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There are devices that work over wifi (Tasmota, ESPHome, etc). Many of them are way cheaper than Hue too.

forest cobalt
dire current
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Ahh, I wish I had never started with the topic of smart home 😄

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Now I'm starting to look at ESPHome on YouTube again... it ends up costing a lot of money, then Hue and Bosch devices worth 1000 to 1500 euros end up in the basement and in the end, something doesn't work again 😄

forest cobalt
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Like I said, you could still use both the Hue stuff and the Bosch stuff. It doesn't have to become e-waste. You could also sell it on eBay as well. But in your case, the ESP route might be better as you can get pretty much everything covered using WiFi.

dire current
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i need to write code when i go the ESP way? or there are totally 100% finished plug and play chips?

austere patio
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If you can't make sure your light bulbs stay on, you should get other mains-powered routers to extend your mesh. Bulbs being turned off can potentially disconnect half of your network if there is no alternate route.

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It will also break sensors relying on them for connectivity. Some won't ever re-connect until their parent bulb turns back on.

forest cobalt
dire current
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thanks to you 2. but this is getting too time-consuming for me. i'm selling the NUC again 🙂 thanks for your time!

forest cobalt
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No problem! Good luck! 🙂

bitter gale
leaden grotto
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if one router is down, doesn't second router pick up?

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I have tried restarting the router, but stll doesn't work

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using zha

forest cobalt
bitter gale
forest cobalt
leaden grotto
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no updates

forest cobalt
forest cobalt
leaden grotto
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zigbee power plug acting as a router too

forest cobalt
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Usually, yeah, but this is a Tuya device, so there’s always a chance it just didn’t interview properly. Lots of factors to consider.

forest cobalt
leaden grotto
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Nwk: 0x67da
Device Type: Router
LQI: 84
RSSI: -79
Last Seen: 2024-05-05T02:34:06
Power Source: Mains
Quirk: zhaquirks.tuya.ts011f_plug.Plug

bitter gale
forest cobalt
leaden grotto
forest cobalt
forest cobalt
leaden grotto
forest cobalt
# leaden grotto i have automations added to it? what will happen to those?

That depends on if your automations use device triggers or entity state triggers. If you are using device triggers (very bad idea), you’ll have to update your automations. If you are using entity state triggers (much better idea), you’ll be fine as long as you name the switch entity the same name.

leaden grotto
forest cobalt
leaden grotto
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and choose entity as target

forest cobalt
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Then you should be fine.

bitter gale
leaden grotto
forest cobalt
bitter gale
mellow geode
leaden grotto
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no interview

mellow geode
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Did you reset the Tuya plug by holding down the power button on it?

leaden grotto
mellow geode
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To confirm, you’re on the "Add device" page with a spinning circle on some device?

leaden grotto
mellow geode
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Other ZHA devices are working correctly? If so, temporarily try to move the plug to another location and re-pair it there

leaden grotto
bitter gale
forest cobalt
frail finch
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Can someone help me?
I have this MOES Smart Knob.
And I do not know how to configure it using ZHA

forest cobalt
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You should be able to get it working by looking at the blueprint. 😊

frail finch
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thanks but I use zha not z2m

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nvm.

white dock
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Can you change the ikea pir to trigger on a certain amount of motion? As it just triggers for nothing at the moment

mellow geode
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Try changing the batteries. The IKEA sensors experience "ghost triggers" when the battery voltage is low.

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Upgrading the firmware might also help otherwise.

forest cobalt
tiny timber
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Hey folks, I just got one of these IKEA Symfonisk remotes. Z2M shows that it's on the most recent firmware and OTA says there's no update, however the actions it exposes are from the first firmware. This obviously isn't ideal as the actions have changed in the most recent firmware. What would be causing this?

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I did notice the section about the legacy options which I have set to false, however the payload is still delivering the actions like the old firmwares.

dusk zenith
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Guys, what's the recommended way to update the skyconnect to 7.4 firmware? It seems the home assistant web flasher only updates to 7.3

tidal dove
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Hi everyone, I did a migration from Sonoff E dongle to P dongle. It seemed that everything worked, however I have some issues

  • I cannot pair any new devices, they will not be found even when next to the coordinator. I tried different devices in different rooms

  • I get a lot of errors like this when starting up:
    Zigbee2MQTT:error 2024-05-05 11:51:34: Failed to read state of 'Bad Oben Spot 4' after reconnect (Read 0x00178801092f77f7/11 genOnOff(["onOff"], {"timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Data request failed with error: 'undefined' (25)))

  • LQI values seem pretty bad

  • Some devices dont work anymore

I think I'll have to restart my network. Can someone suggest the cleanest way to start from scratch?

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Also, when doing this - assuming I have still devices which fail to join, can I revert?
Sorry, forgot to add: Using Z2M

lime locust
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anyone recommend a good zigbee roller shade driver ?

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do they have enough torque to pull up a 2meter curtain ?

molten linden
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The tuya ones work surprisingly well. They are used by both Yoolax and smartwings. I have nearly 2 meter shades from Yoolax and they work with no problem.

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Of curse being tuya not all are the same

forest cobalt
molten linden
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Yep

white dock
lime locust
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ok just bought the Moes hope it can pull up the shades

austere patio
fading moth
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Hi all! I'm having trouble with Sonoff temperature sensors (SNZB-02, SNZB-02D, SNZB-02P) in home assistant. They just stop reporting after some time (e.g. it's been several days since some of them reported). I don't have issues with other zigbee devices such as switches so I wonder if anyone experienced the same, if it's a known problem, or whether i need to tweak something in my setup. Any pointers on how to get to the bottom of this would be gratly appreciated!

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(the temperature has been fluctuating by more than several degrees, so that shouldn't be the issue)

formal kestrel
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Greetings!! I know I seen a device where it detects if a person is in the room or not. Can anyone please recommend on what to get? I would like to walk in the office and automatically turn on light on/off whether I'm in room or not

forest cobalt
grim igloo
formal kestrel
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Thanks!

hybrid cloud
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I'm getting the following repeating at infinitum in the Silicon Labs add-on, I've tried to restart it, my vm, my ha instance, the add-on, zha, unplugging and replugging by stick, nothing seems to fix it. Any idea what's going on or how to diagnose it?

# 
[11:45:35:329054] Info: Client disconnected 
[11:45:36] INFO: Starting zigbeed. [11:45:37:553171] Info: New client connection using library v4.3.1.0 
[11:45:37:559393] Info : Endpoint socket #12: Client connected. 2 connections 
Listening on port 9999 for connection. 
Accepting connection. 
Accepted connection 7. 
[11:46:06] INFO: zigbeed ended with exit code 256 (signal 13 [11:46:06:107029] Info: Endpoint socket #12: Client disconnected. 1 connections 
[11:46:06:107103] Info: Client disconnected [11:46:07] INFO: Starting zigbeed 
[11:46:08:327904] Info: New client connection using library v4.3.1.0 
[11:46:08:334385] Info: Endpoint socket #12: Client connected. 2 connections 
Listening on port 9999 for connection. 
Accepting connection. 
Accepted connection 7. 
Socket connection has been closed, restarting.```
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So this is what's going on

austere patio
hybrid cloud
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Is there something wrong with multi pan?

austere patio
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It won't be receiving any attention for the foreseeable future so any issues you have will probably not be fixed

hybrid cloud
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Ah unfortunate

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Will multiprotocol or even just thread be supported in the future? I bought the sky connect for the dual capability

buoyant stump
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Hello there. Anybody else having problem with SONOFF ZBMINIL2? I just installed one behind a light switch. I was able to toggle it on and off a couple times, but now it completely stopped responding and HA gives me a "Failed to send request: Failed to enqueue message after 3 attempts: <EmberStatus.MAX_MESSAGE_LIMIT_REACHED: 144>" message

forest cobalt
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How far is it from the coordinator or another router?

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Oh... wait...

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Yeah, probably an interference or range issue. Your coordinator is trying to send the message and queuing up and finally reaching the max amount of messages without receiving a response.

buoyant stump
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okay, its a wiring issue

forest cobalt
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Oh, those are fun.

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(said no one ever)

buoyant stump
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I just disconencted the switch and only got the zbminil2 with the 2 wires now... and I can use HA to turn it on and off.... perfectly fine

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it seems I have no idea how to wire the switch

forest cobalt
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Woot! I like issues like this. lol

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Yeah, welcome to my world... me + electricity usually involves a lot of cursing and turning breakers on and off a lot lol

buoyant stump
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If I try to wire both S1 and S2 to the switch I run into problems

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but thats the only way it makes sense to me actually

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cant post images in here though... hard to explain

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but yeah, without the switch it works perfect

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but thats not what I had in mind xD

forest cobalt
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Hmmmm... sounds strangely like the switch might not be getting enough power then. Are there any LED bulbs on the same circuit?

buoyant stump
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nope

forest cobalt
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Yeah, I'm not certain then... You'll probably need someone with more electrical experience than I have 😦

buoyant stump
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alright. thx anyway

buoyant stump
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okay, I think I fried the poor thing... RIP

tidal dove
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Hi, does someone know the best way to wipe my Zigbee Network and restart?

arctic wave
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For Zigbee2MQTT I did the following:

  • stop zigbee2MQTT
  • edit the /config/zigbee2mqtt/configuration.yaml file

advanced:
network_key: GENERATE
pan_id: GENERATE
ext_pan_id: GENERATE

  • delete the coordinator_backup.json file
  • restart zigbee2mqtt

all your devices are removed and you have a brand new network

peak gazelle
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I'm using z2m and I have a weird issue: I got some new power sockets that also track power usage. 2 of them work perfectly fine as you'd expect, but one somehow doesn't seem to automatically get the usage data? Like it gets the new one whenever I click on the refresh thingy in z2m, but it doesn't get that automatically so HA just shows a straight line. Any ideas what that might be?

austere patio
hybrid cloud
austere patio
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Is multi-PAN functional?

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The migration assumes it can fully communicate with the coordinator. If it can't, you can't migrate with the button. It's not that much of a problem though, just uninstall the addon, flash the SkyConnect back to Zigbee firmware with the web flasher (or the flasher addon), and re-configure ZHA to point to the new device and restore the most recent ZHA backup.

hybrid cloud
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i believe i've restored the firmware back the zigbee-only, and i'm getting the exact same issue as before which leads me to think its with zha and wasnt an issue with multi-pan at all

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i updated to the latest core version this morning and it started happening almost immediately after

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i would assume it has something to do with this

2024-05-05 17:14:13.447 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.application] Connection to the radio has been lost: <NcpResetCode.ERROR_EXCEEDED_MAXIMUM_ACK_TIMEOUT_COUNT: 81>```
dry shadow
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Ok, this one is freaking weird. I tried adding a Phillips Hue bulb today and it knocked out my entire network. It triggered the reconfiguration of a Zigbee Surge Strip that would not finish (sat on the configuring window and scrolled hex codes). I kept getting this message in the log...homeassistant.exceptions.HomeAssistantError: Failed to send request: Duplicate TSN: 247... This would scroll by in lighting speed. I was able to throw the Surge Strip into rebind mode and the errors stopped and the network "healed". I'm gun shy trying the bulb again. Any ideas what happened?

hybrid cloud
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i loaded an old backup of 2024.5.0 and its still happening

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flashed the regular zigbee firmware and its still doing this

austere patio
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What hardware are you running HA OS on and what custom integrations and addons are you using? The error says that the radio sent something to the host but the host did not respond for many seconds. This only happens if HA Core is struggling to process data or otherwise locked up.

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@hybrid cloud ^

rapid dawnBOT
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@hybrid cloud I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
hybrid cloud
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oh i didnt realize it was that long, oops