zigbee-archived

[proven mason]

would it be smart to buy another sonoff dongle, upon getting it update the firmware, hook it up to a vanilla HAOS to make sure it works, then restore my backup?

im just trying really hard here to take a pragmatic approach that doesnt blow up my network. as IT people, we generally try to make sure we have contingency plans but a lot of this sounds pretty cavalier to me

[austere patio]

I don't know of any problems that would be solved by migrating from a ZNP to an EZSP dongle

Record a ZHA debug log for a few hours. After you ZIP it up, PM it to me and I can try to take a look

[hollow forum]

Updated SkyConnect firmware and tried re-pairing. It usually pairs successfully, only showing the cover entity. The open/close will work, but the stop will give an error. After a few seconds it goes unavailable permanently
I just get:
[0x1C7F:1:0x0300]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>')]

[austere patio]

What device is this?

Ah, an Aqara curtain

[mellow geode]

Older OSRAM devices are known to cause routing issues sometimes.

[mellow geode]

Can you briefly explain what issue you're currently having and what you're trying to solve it?

[mellow geode]

When you re-pair the device and not send any commands, does it react to a command after 10 minutes or so?
So does it only go unavailable when you send a command? (Do "open/close" work all the time?)

[hollow forum]

The cover entity starts in an Unknown state. After about ~10 seconds it goes Unavailable even without any commands. For those ~10 seconds the open/close will work

It seems to go back to Unknown sometimes, but commands don't work after this initial period

Maybe a polling event is still causing it to go unavailable? In the logbook it goes unavailable immediately after
LUMI lumi.curtain.agl001 Zha Event was fired

[mellow geode]

You should be able to subscribe to zha_event in the developer tools during the time that event is fired to see more details

[mellow geode]

Regardintg the quirk PR, do the open/close commands only work with the quirk (or also without)?

[hollow forum]

Thanks, I'll try and subscribe to see what happens. The open/close commands work without the updated quirk (immediately after pairing) but I do not recall if the direction is correct.

[mellow geode]

So open/close commands work without any quirks at all?

[hollow forum]

Yes, I didn't have a custom quirk before and it still received the open/close commands and went unavailable after a few seconds

[mellow geode]

weird, everybody on GitHub mentioned that "open/close doesn't work, only percentage does"

[hollow forum]

Yup, I had that with my previous controller the HUSBZB or whatever it's called!

[bold nymph]

My aqara leaking sensor which is connected to my home Assistant via z2m, keeps getting stuck on leaking state even when it’s not leaking at all. And every time I press the sensor to force it to update its exposes to HA, I keep receiving
Exception while calling fromZigbee converter: 'device_temperature_calibration' is not a number, got string ()}

Any help?

[last rain]

Hi All, when adding devices you get to the "Initialization complete, The device is ready to use" form. You have the ability to change the name of the device and also the Area. I find that somes it changes the entity IDs for the device and sometimes not. Any idea why that is?

[mental fog]

joining new device - static ones, mains powered (curtain motors).... they just jump around in and out of the network...

[wide ember]

Hey guys,
I got some ZBMINI-L2 installed via z2m as a wall switch to turn on / off lights, it shows up as a switch and I would like to see if it's possible to change it to be shown as a light ?

[sour shadow]

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/usage/integrations/home_assistant.html#exposing-switch-as-a-light

[rapid dawn]

@wide ember I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[sour shadow]

No

That's an example

[wide ember]

Or can I just stop at the light: part

[sour shadow]

Probably

[wide ember]

Okay, I'll give it a go! Thanks

[violet dagger]

or use the switch as x helper https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/helpers/

[mighty river]

Hey Im using ZHA and would like to use quirks. But my ZHA initialisation breaks when I add the directory path to my HA configuration file. "zha:
custom_quirks_path: /config/custom_zha_quirks/" I created the directory but always get the following error:

"Invalid config for [zha]: not a directory for dictionary value @ data['zha']['custom_quirks_path']. Got '/config/custom_zha_quirks/'. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 12)."

I hope Im in the right channel for that issue!?

[mystic verge]

Does the directory already exists? looks like it says is not a directory

[carmine hamlet]

And remove the trailing /

[mighty river]

yes, dir is created and I uploaded my custom py file

[mystic verge]

that shouldn't be an issue I think

[mighty river]

btw: im running HA in a docker on unraid

could it be a permissions thing? It seems everyone on the internet just adds this line and calls it a day, but for me it doenst work myseriously 😦
EDIT: Somebody at the Unraid forums just gave me the solution: The container hoem dir is already /config. So without the /config it works!! 🙂

[austere patio]

What quirk are you trying to use?

[novel gyro]

Hey, has someone successfully add a sonoff zbminil2 to zha?
The device never shows off while trying to add a new device

[violet dagger]

yes

[novel gyro]

seems that I have a defect one. The second worked.

It seems too, that I have totally misunderstood the function😩

the zbmini cut the power to my ZigBee light, so I can't control it anymore.
I thought I would have always have power on the lamp an can use my old switch too.

ACH mist

[wheat frost]

hi all i am lookint to get some smart stuff for the house , morespecifically reducing energy costs

i want a smart radiator thermostat that 1) does not need the internet ! 2) works with HA

theres a sale on amazon UK at the moment and im wondering what are some great deals to get , ive found these two on sale and was wondering if anyone with experience could guide me on these ? thank you (btw i dont have any experience with HA but im looking to get it onto my server , mainly worried about reducing energy costs so if there is some eco system with temp sensors etc im quite interested)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Radiator-Thermostat-installation-KE100/dp/B0BKQWGSMC/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aqara-Thermostat-Thermostatic-Geofencing-Compatible/dp/B0B6DTSGSJ/

[sour shadow]

You can strip everything from /ref= onwards

[wheat frost]

also to add : itll be about 6 radiators in 4 rooms, if theres other better options please feel free to let me know ! and any additional accessories i need like thermostats for rooms etc. budget needs to be resonable as i need to think will it ever pay back itself after the investment im doing

[proven mason]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BYJ9DN8H

yay or nay for HAOS?

[sour shadow]

More a question for #hardware-archived

[proven mason]

yeah i realized that as soon as i hit enter, my bad

i ordered another identical ZBDongle-P sonoff

im going to do what i said, upgrade the firmware on the new one, install it to another HOAS, load my backup

im too nervous messing with firmware on my production zigbee antenna

at the same time, im going to get away from the APU4 as the hardware and move to the NUC-style box above

[tepid nymph]

any idea how to limit the active power on a tuya neo smart plug? 🤔

[violet dagger]

Limit what?

[tepid nymph]

The outgoing wattage of the outlet

[violet dagger]

You can't, you can create an automation to turn off the outlet if the wattage exceeds a value

[tepid nymph]

that is unfortunate, thanks anyway! 😉

[jaunty flame]

Any idea 'bout that issue?
I've connected multiple zigbee devices using my Sonoff ZBDongle-P on HAOS.
Most of the day, everything is working well. But since some days, seems like the connections to the devices stops. For example switching a plug. Sometimes it works on the second or third try, sometimes it works with a delay of a few seconds.
This Error is in the logs:
https://pastebin.realhunters.de/ucezuhikoq.vhdl
Any ideas?

[sour shadow]

You forgot the error, and re-posted the rest of your question 😉

[jaunty flame]

Shit lol, was too long to Upload here😅

Gimme a sec

just updated

[mellow geode]

That means that you have a bunch of interference

Did you already put your coordinator on a USB extension?

Is it near any USB 3 ports, SSDs, WiFi APs, Bluetooth sticks, metal, ...?

[sour shadow]

USB 3.0 cables connected to USB 3.0 devices and ports can also be a problem

[jaunty flame]

Nope, 2 Meters away from the rpi itself via extension

[mellow geode]

Can you download the diagnostic information from the ZHA integration and upload that as a paste and send the link here?

It'll contain interference information at the bottom

[jaunty flame]

And was on usb2 port

Alright, will check, but will upload it tomorrow as it's late night here.

Edit: Brain woking too much because of that, cannot sleep lol.
Here's the diagnostic: https://pastebin.realhunters.de/xicutokoru.xml

which part of the json is the interference?

[austere patio]

The radio saying MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE means that it is too noisy and you can't transmit. Your network is on channel 15, which according to the above log has a utilization percentage of about 65%. Move your coordinator away from interference sources. If you can't do that, go to the ZHA integration's configuration page and click the pencil icon near your current channel. Let ZHA pick a new channel, it will probably pick 25.

[jaunty flame]

Alright, thanks! As all of the 2.4GHz transmitters are from neighbours (My wifi is running on 5GHz only), I cannot really change anything but moving the rpi and the dongle a few meters to the side, but I assume that will not change anything.

If changing the channel, do I have to update anything on the zha devies itself?

[austere patio]

Support for changing Zigbee channels isn't universal with all Zigbee devices, nor is it instant. It can take an hour for sensors to re-join and you may have to manually re-join them if they don't on their own. Usually, however, most devices migrate to the new channel.

[worldly spade]

Hi there, I'm trying to replace my Zigbee USB stick, but Zigbee2MQTT is giving an error, complaining that it's still looking for the old device.
I've changed the serial port in /config/zigbee2mqtt/configuration.yaml and restarted.
The configuration.yaml makes no mention of that USB device anymore at all so I don't even know where it's looking to find that string at this point. Am I replacing the serial port in the right place? Thanks

old device: usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0
new device: usb-Texas_Instruments_TI_CC2531_USB_CDC___0X00124B001949BF82-if00
error: https://pastebin.com/0Eh0jJNp
configuration.yaml: https://pastebin.com/CHqi5Zrd

[sour shadow]

CC2531

Why would you do that to yourself?

[worldly spade]

it's a backup

[sour shadow]

Not even sure you can migrate that way...

[worldly spade]

the electrolama got bent 😦

really, it's not compatible?

[sour shadow]

Well, you're trying to downgrade

And quite a massive downgrade at that

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/faq/#how-do-i-migrate-from-one-adapter-to-another doesn't suggest you can do what you're trying, but maybe it'll work

Have you checked the adapter settings in Z2M's own UI?

[ashen bluff]

Also check the addon config

[worldly spade]

z2m appears to crash because of this error I think? I get 502 bad gateway

[sour shadow]

That means that it's not started

Check the add-on logs

[ashen bluff]

Maybe you can solder it?

[worldly spade]

HA has been up for a while. I get several logs similar to the OP as if it's boot looping

➜  log pwd
/config/zigbee2mqtt/log
➜  log ls                  
2023-10-10.13-34-25  2023-10-10.13-34-31  2023-10-10.13-34-38  2023-10-10.13-34-44  2023-10-10.13-34-50  2023-10-10.13-35-01
2023-10-10.13-34-28  2023-10-10.13-34-35  2023-10-10.13-34-41  2023-10-10.13-34-47  2023-10-10.13-34-57

[sour shadow]

Not talking about HA not running, Z2M isn't running

That's what the 502 means

[worldly spade]

I meant that I've given HA lots of time to allow z2m to boot

[sour shadow]

HA is irrelevant

[worldly spade]

ok well look at the logs

[sour shadow]

Check the add-on logs, check the add-on settings

[worldly spade]

are those the right logs?

[sour shadow]

Yes

[worldly spade]

info  2023-10-10 13:38:49: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-10-10.13-38-48' filename: log.txt
info  2023-10-10 13:38:49: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.25.1 (commit #unknown)
info  2023-10-10 13:38:49: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.27)
error 2023-10-10 13:38:49: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
error 2023-10-10 13:38:49: Failed to start zigbee
error 2023-10-10 13:38:49: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
error 2023-10-10 13:38:49: Exiting...
error 2023-10-10 13:38:49: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0'
    at SerialPort.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.ts:146:28)
    at SerialPort._error (/app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/lib/index.js:198:14)
    at /app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/lib/index.js:242:12

[sour shadow]

Check the add-on settings

[worldly spade]

ah gotcha

yeah it was still the wrong device in the addon settings. thanks. you probably also saved me a lot of time letting me know that it's not so easy to migrate haha

[dire hedge]

So I have an Aqara sensor that is paired to the absolute farthest away device and I'd like to change that

Do I need to delete the sensor in HA first?

I tried pressing the on-device button 6 times to do a pairing like first time, not working

[austere patio]

Make sure to permit joins before doing so

[dire hedge]

I'm new to Zigbee as of last week so don't know what that means. Is this a setting for the Zigbee network or the router device?

Using SkyConnect and ZHA

[dusk meteor]

so amazon deal day, I am looking at maybe getting some presense detectors and room temp sensors, any recomendations?

[austere patio]

Just click the same button you usually do to allow devices to join the network

[pseudo forum]

I want one of those zigbee knobs but I can't find a seller that seems very reputable.

[keen merlin]

I switched from 15 to 25 and had no problems at all. I'm on a Yellow using ZHA

Sonoff Dongle-P vs Dongle-E

https://haade.fr/en/blog/zb-dongle-p-vs-zb-dongle-e-zigbee-sonoff
Both the Yellow and the SkyConnect use Si-Labs EFR32MG21 chip used in the Dongle-E

The EFR32MG24 is Multithread compatible, which simply means: Zigbee and Matter at the same time. I don't plan on using Matter any time soon The EFR32MG24 Soc is more powerful than the CC2652

[wheat rose]

Anyone had any luck getting these to work with ZHA? I've got it to add but there are no entities
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002954586484.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.529e1802C56G4M

[keen merlin]

Anybody know anything about this USB Zigbee Device
https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/10/11/smlight-slzb-07-low-cost-compact-zigbee-3-0-usb-adapter/

[astral seal]

Looks like a Zigbee adapter. Same radio and serial chipset as the Skyconnect.

[spare mural]

They make an Ethernet model with that chipset too: https://smlight.tech/product/slzb-06m/ (and also the same but with a CC2652P)

[lucid sparrow]

i bought an active usb extender to replace my passive one that wigs out occasionally at 30m length

that arrives tomorrow.. then someone here tells me about the poe powered one after that.. but whatever.. if this doesn't work, i'll buy one of those

if the active extender works, thats kind of nerdy anyway

[serene briar]

I try to ask here:
Do you guys, by chance, would know any good TRV i can buy which works with ZHA?

[violet wave]

I've got a bunch of https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004861758253.html. They are pretty cheap and they do the job

probably not the best you can have but maybe the least expensive one

I still have 2 PRs in progress to fully support them correctly

even with scheduling support

@austere patio if you could please spare some time to approve these btw : https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/87546 🙂

[austere patio]

Sure, will do in a bit

[violet dagger]

Winter is coming 🙂

[last rain]

Dumb question, but i cant find an answer - how do i view what zigbee channel my sky connect is currently on?

[sour shadow]

The ZHA diagnostics include that

[last rain]

Thank you, where do i find this in the diags? I have searched for "channel" but nothing there...

[sour shadow]

under the key ... channel

[sudden yarrow]

You have to download the diagnostics xml file. In it it can be found under "channel"

[sour shadow]

https://pastebin.realhunters.de/xicutokoru.xml for example

[sudden yarrow]

Oh... too late again 😆

[last rain]

Yep - have this file "zha-fb36f0c4910feb2344e608a86bc99b4f-Zigbee Coordinator-0105e7684e2757dad7c52b5be18f6c95.json.txt"

Ok got it. Thank you, i downloaded the wrong file. "channel": 15 so default.

thank yu!

[sudden yarrow]

Well.. we could have had it easier.

It is shown on the ZHA config page

[mellow geode]

Go to Settings -> Integrations -> ZHA -> Configure and it’ll say in the UI there.
You can also change it there

Or yeah, download diagnostics

[dire hedge]

Why is the Zigbee visualization hidden inside the add device menu, very odd placement

[sudden yarrow]

It had to go somewhere.

[dire hedge]

Ya I get that but like out of these 3 screens

Shoot, photo upload won't work

Seems like it would make most sense to add to top level of ZHA

[sudden yarrow]

Do you need it so often?

[mellow geode]

It's not only there. It's also there if you go to Settings -> Integrations -> click on ZHA logo -> Configure -> top bar

So basically at the top level where ZHA can put it

[keen merlin]

Anyone know what this means? Pops up occasionally in the log. Everything seems to be working fine.

Logger: homeassistant.components.zha.core.cluster_handlers
Source: components/zha/core/cluster_handlers/init.py:537
Integration: Zigbee Home Automation (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 3:12:18 PM (2 occurrences)
Last logged: 3:12:18 PM

[0xF9C9:2:0x0300]: [Min mireds is 0, setting to 153] Please open an issue on the quirks repo to have this device corrected

Quirks?

[sudden yarrow]

You can report that device to the ZHA device handler repo as an issue:
https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers

[keen merlin]

ok

[sudden yarrow]

A quirk is kind of a translation of a vendor specific functionality to ZHA

[molten linden]

Is that to sonoff-e router fw? I think they based that fw on the 💡 example from the silabs sdk even though there is no light…

[keen merlin]

yes ... it is

[molten linden]

I do t think it matters for the devices functionality

But if you want the warning to go, it will need a quirk

[keen merlin]

I noticed that the GUI shows some switches for lights. I toggled those controls and the leds on the PCB changed. Don't understand the purpose

[molten linden]

It was just an easy example in the sdk to use as a router

“Easy”

[keen merlin]

If it's not an indication of problem, then I'm OK. It seems to be working fine as router. I forced several end nodes to connect to it so I could make sure it was working

[keen merlin]

I guess its an easy way to confirm connectivity

I'm still outside the school of Zigbee making my way up to the door 🤣

[dire hedge]

Noice. That is better.

[mellow geode]

Can you check if the "light entity" in HA controls the light on the ZBDongle-E?

There's an LED on the board IIRC

I think it's only dimmable though(?)

(also mention that in your quirks issue)

[keen merlin]

After I first flashed it to router I added it to HA and I could change the values of LEDs using switches in the GUI

[dire hedge]

Well, I bought a bunch of Aqara devices (20) and didn't realize they were incapable of connecting to the nearest router when they move location. so that has been quite the chore.

Very annoying

[austere patio]

You generally shouldn't move devices. Most won't re-connect unless the original connection is completely broken.

[keen merlin]

I've forced connection to a new router by powering off the router that the end node is connected to and using the Manage Zigbee device GUI to read attributes from the end node

It may take a few cycles but it worked for my devices. YMMV.

[dire hedge]

Yeah, that's just bc I was pairing sensors at my desk as they came in, not realizing they would do that. Lesson learned!

What do these numbers on the visualization map mean

128/128

125/103

[carmine hamlet]

Link Quality Indictor each way

not particularly interesting if the device is working properly

[dire hedge]

yeah, was curious, they are red lines

these bulbs are maybe 10 feet from each other

[carmine hamlet]

those numbers are fine, nothing to worry about

[dire hedge]

I was taking red = bad, is it not?

[carmine hamlet]

no

[dire hedge]

ah, well then, maybe all is well then

Only reason I brought up the Aqara endpoint mapping is bc I put one in my mailbox and I had paired it at my PC upstairs. It still trying to connect to a bulb in my daughers room, furthest place away, vs something much closer.

(and its not working)

[keen merlin]

In general, the higher the number the better the link but not all devices are of equal quality

[keen merlin]

The colors are just to make it easier to follow links when you have a lot of devices , especially routers that link to other routers. End nodes don't form as many links

[dire hedge]

I automatically associated colors with link quality fwiw, this is common usage of the colors green, yellow, red.

Stop/Slow/Go, Bad/OK/Good

[keen merlin]

Remove it and and readd it while you have it close to the router that you want it to associate with. Or yo can try my forced reassociation technique above but you still need to have it near the preferred router

[dire hedge]

Ill give it a whirl, thanks for the tip

Does Read Attribute on the Manage Zigbee Device menu force it to find a new connection?

if it's original router is down?

[keen merlin]

There may be something to the color I just looked and I have some white links that are 0 🤣

[dire hedge]

hmmmm. I just added these two leak sensors and they have no connection at all.

just floating circles

[keen merlin]

It seems like it did for me after I powered off the router that the device was associated with and placed it near the prefered router

[keen merlin]

Looks like it can take a while to find the best router

[dire hedge]

Disregard this comment, maybe I just needed to wait for everything to sync up

Too excited by new sensors 🙂

thanks for help everyone. I'm pretty sure this is all bordering on sickness, but at least you're all as sick as I am.

[keen merlin]

Yeah .. I get it ... I'm only two months into HA and am completely hooked . I doubt there will be very many days where in don't tinker with it trying new things and finding more things to integrate or fooling around with dashboard and cards and hacs and ... If you haven't done so already be sure to add the Google drive backup. It will save you a lot of grief if you hose your system. I restored a couple times to undo something I screwed up. I take backup before I add any addon or make significant changes

[mellow geode]

yep, that's normal. You can trigger a refresh of the map in the UI. Come back to the visualization later (refresh page) and it should update there eventually. Depending on the network size, it can take quite a while though

[dire hedge]

@keen merlin yep! I've actually already used it when my VM on unraid ate itself

Ive had HA installed for a year but only used it to manage a handful of Lifx lights, then started going nuts in last 3 weeks

[keen merlin]

I went nuts right from the getgo. I'd been using a SmartThings hub a Hue Hub and Google for years. I had looked for and at other systems but for some reason had never come across HA.

Back in July I stumbled onto HA and loaded it up on a VM to check it out. After about a week, I knew it was what I wanted. I ordered Yellow, NVme, a Zooz 800 Z-Wave module and migrated every thing to HA. Then went crazy integrating. everything in sight that I couldn't with SmartThings. My wife asked for something to tell her when the pet gravity Water bowl was low so is setup a sensor using ESPHome.

[keen merlin]

Now my fridge, washer, dryer, weather station, Airthings air quality & radon monitor, grass moisture sensors, weather map, people and places map, weather alerts, AQI, weather forecasts, sun and moon phases, oven temperature probes, printer status and ink levels, ecobee thermostats and occupancy/temp sensors, UPS monitor, all our phones, my smartwatch, Smoke and CO detectors, leak sensors and Zooz Titan water shutoff valve, lights, are all integrated and I'm not done yet. Even the status of my Daughters Minecraft server is integrated.... Yeah I'm hooked

[serene briar]

do they support external sensors? also it doesn't seem to support % of open but just temp

[junior bolt]

Hi people, I am currently using an IKEA Tradfri Gateway to communicate with my bulbs, but I am considering getting Home Assistant SkyConnect. But will my IKEA phone-app be able to talk to the bulbs after the update? Or will I also need to setup a view in homeassistant?

[sour shadow]

No, the phone app talks to their hub

[junior bolt]

Yeah I figured... Which reduces the WAF-factor because the wife actually understands the app 😛 But the hub is already added to homeassistant also. So maybe I could just leave the lights on the hub, but add the new heaters to the stick and control it from HA. Would that work? Or is there an issue running both the sky-connect and ikea hub near eachother?

[sour shadow]

As long as you ensure that you're using a different Zigbee channel you'll be fine

[lament magnet]

Our company has newly developed a zigbee infrared remote control. The remote control comes with an air conditioner code library, which can control various types of air conditioners, TVs, etc. However, it has not yet been connected to Z2M and ZHA. Are you interested? ? We can provide control protocol documents and access methods

[sour shadow]

Well, you can submit a PR for Z2M to provide the required converter

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/advanced/support-new-devices/01_support_new_devices.html

ZHA has a similar process

[lucid sparrow]

active usb extender from china seems to work extremely well.. not bad for $34 aud shipped.. (21.77 usd).. thats with a power adaptor too

you can select your power adaptor too, eg, AU, US, UK, EUR etc

or without one

instructions say it supports usb 2.0, and it seems to be working just fine with 30m of cat5e

i still think poe is more convenient, but that is a more costly solution it seems

[stoic grotto]

Hi, today Home-Assistant didn't receive entities from Zigbee2Mqtt docker only for next device: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/TS0504B.html#tuya-ts0504b

Has someone the same problem?

[bold plume]

Has anyone bought one of these zigbee buttons:
"https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005941325665.html?"

Have ordered one, but Cannot get it into pairing modus.
Does anyone else have the same issue?

[violet dagger]

pairing mode instructions are provided with the device

[bold plume]

I did some more checking and there is a hidden button. which is very hard to press. even with a Sim remover

[violet dagger]

some more checking = reading instructions?

[bold plume]

The instructions do not mention that hidden button. or show where it is. dissasembled it and noticed a 2nd button

It did not include a sim remover as well, as would be normal with other switches. I think I might have received a "Return" order as the double sided tape was already applied beforehand

[violet wave]

For external sensor, I use cheap temperature module and I sync the temperature offset with them. They don't report how the valve is open if that's what you mean by %open

[knotty flint]

I have a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB dongle and an as-yet-unused Home Assistant Skyconnect dongle.

Is there any reason to not replace the Sonoff device outright so I can get Matter support?

Is there any way to transfer Zigbee devices between hubs that doesn't involve me resetting and pairing them all again?

[sour shadow]

TL/DR: Don't do it

The people in #thread-archived will tell you not to use multi-protocol, because that way lies madness and frustration

[violet dagger]

Use one for Zigbee and other for Thread

[knotty flint]

Gotcha, thanks

[knotty flint]

Ok! I'll look into that.

[knotty flint]

It's just worse than the standalone Zigbee hub?

Or I guess having one Zigbee and eventually one Matter hub, whether that's the SkyConnect or something else?

[knotty flint]

Does the other one work for Thread yet? The main documentation they have doesn't really mention that setup. https://skyconnect.home-assistant.io/

It advises setting it up for Zigbee first.

[sour shadow]

Hubs... no

Hubs are manufacturer locked crap.... ain't nobody got time for that

[knotty flint]

Well, dongles I mean - ways to add that functionality. I'm not highly fluent with the terminology yet.

[sour shadow]

Yes, as has been said, you want separate dongles (coordinators) for Thread and for Zigbee

[violet dagger]

The chip used in it has thread OBR firmware, obr stands for open border router

Matter doesn't need hubs if you have HA since HA is the "hub"

[austere patio]

Install the OpenThread Border Router addon and point it to the SkyConnect. It'll flash the appropriate firmware.

[violet dagger]

That sounds easy

[left magnet]

Hello! I have a raspberry pi3 + raspbee II for controlling some ligths. In the past 6 months it has been getting less and less responsive, I suspect a hardware problem. I am looking for recomendations for changing it, as winter is coming and I will need to control the lighting for the greenhouse again...

[stray slate]

Hey folks, would anyone be willing to offer some troubleshooting tips for getting an aqara (zigbee) motion sensor working with home assistant? I am able to pair successfully but the motion sensors don't detect motion after that initial pairing.

• Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus–ZBDongle-E (flashed with latest firmware)
• RPI 3 w/ latest HA
• Tried first with zigbee2mqtt and now getting same result on ZHA
• brand new battery
• no other zigbee devices, fresh install inches away from dongle
• wifi is channel 6, zigbee channel 25
• i have tried 3 identical motion sensors all with same result

[left magnet]

now having such issues with rasbbee II I am mot sure I want to go for the same solution. On the other hand, I got used to working with deconz and I am not sure I want to go for another system... unless you tell me raspbee is crap and there are other much better and more robust solutions

[austere patio]

It's unlikely you have a hardware problem, your issue is most likely environmental noise. What channel is your 2.4GHz WiFi network on? Are you near any SSDs or USB 3.0 devices?

[grim igloo]

are you moving them after pairing?

any routers?

go to settings -> integrations -> zha -> and click download diagnostics then share it here

[stray slate]

no moving after pairing and no routers... i am brand new to HA so I have just configured everything for the first time

[grim igloo]

how far away are the devices from the usb dongle

also

are you using a usb extender?

[stray slate]

any sensitive data in that diagnostic that i need to redact?

[grim igloo]

https://youtu.be/tHqZhNcFEvA 30 second clip that shows why you need a usb extender

[stray slate]

yes, i have a usb extender ~5ft

[grim igloo]

no

it redacts things for you

are you running on a pi or server or?

if server are you escaping the rack with the usb extender?

[stray slate]

https://pastebin.com/5EtzqzzX

[stray slate]

rpi 3, i moved it from my rack to the floor in my office for the purposes of troubleshooting this

[rapid dawn]

@grim igloo I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[grim igloo]

definitely channel 25 is the right one too

[left magnet]

No SSD in the vicinity. one Argon bluetooth reciever

I don't know on which channel my wifi is, I'll try to figure out

[stray slate]

the weird thing is that i can see motion/occupancy triggers immediately in the log when it is paired and then dead silence... i have waited several days to see if it triggers later. A quick tap on the sensors reset button doesn't make any event in HA but the sensor gives a quick blink

@grim igloo , i am also trying to figure out why I am power alerts from the RPI, I wonder if that could be related if maybe the dongle is not getting enough juice

[grim igloo]

definitely possible

pi just isnt a great device to run home assistant on

[stray slate]

i know my power source is 5V/3.4A so maybe i need to find a new microusb cable

[grim igloo]

i'd just buy a mini pc and use the pi for other things

you can get a used m910q or similar on ebay for like $80

on average they use like 10w of power for haos

[stray slate]

I have an unraid server and started with a docker but quickly ran into issues with it being "unsupervised" or something along those lines

[grim igloo]

ya

you need haos if you want addons

you can run it on your unraid server in a vm tho

i did that on my unraid box for a while

i prefer it separate... if server dies i dont want smart home going down too

[stray slate]

im not so sure mine can handle vms but i can look into that. Any thoughts on standalones like the yellow?

[grim igloo]

not ideal

that's just a pi in a fancy coat

[stray slate]

ty for all the help, i will see if i can dig up an old desktop to migrate to and try it again

[grim igloo]

i looked through the debug log and nothing jumped out but idk

power issues with the pi can fuck up all the things

[grim igloo]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256252516715 $99 for a 7th gen intel mini pc with an SSD and power supply

you can run haos on it or proxmox and haos virtualized w/e you want

[stray slate]

nice, i just switched the microusb cable and pulled out an anker525 charging hub. if I still get power alerts it may be time to retire ol peneloPi

[grim igloo]

Nerd

[left magnet]

It seems I am on channel 1, but it might change as the setting is "automatic" (choice of channel)

does it change anything ?

[austere patio]

What channel is your Zigbee network on?

[left magnet]

how do I figure this out ??

[grim igloo]

go to settings -> integrations -> zha -> and click download diagnostics then share it here. you can use dpaste.org to copy/paste it with

[mellow geode]

It's also shown in the UI: Settings -> Integrations -> click ZHA icon -> Configure

(there, it'll show the channel and will let you change it)

Diagnostics are useful, because they also include interference levels

[left magnet]

Mh. I am not using ZHA I believe

[wraith pelican]

If you're using the built in Zigbee integration, thats ZHA

[left magnet]

I am using deconZ

[wraith pelican]

Hm, regardless shouldn't that still show up under Zigbee under Devices > Integrations?

[left magnet]

I am on the UI, I go to settings->devices &services-> integrations

and apart from deconz, I have nothing related to zigbee

[wraith pelican]

Ok do you see deConz on that Integrations list

[left magnet]

OK, found the channel it is 15

It is visible from deconz/phoscon/settings / advanced (actualy I was there before, but for whatever reason the language was set to french and the translation is wired, so I didn't identify the field "channel")

So channe is 1 for the wifi and 15 for zigbee

[desert bloom]

Hi. I am new to Zigbee but not HA. I have a Conbee 2 dongle and several smoke alarms that are at the limit of its range (approx 30m through several walls). There is wired network access nearby though. Is there a way to place (eg) a RPi out near the zigbee devices with a Conbee (or similar) as a 'range extender' to improve connectivity?

[pseudo forum]

Can you plug in a zigbee plug roughly half way?

[desert bloom]

Not easily. The zigbees are in a nearby building. I have one of the smoke alarms as close as possible and the other is 10m further on. They don't seem to be 'meshing' though

I am using the Zigbee integration. Would the Deconz one be better here?

[fading briar]

I just picked up an inovelli Blue 2-1 Zigbee switch. (very nicely made piece of equipment, btw. I'm very impressed so far.)
It supports both ZHA and Z2M. I'm currently using ZHA for my other Zigbee devices. Is there any advantage to adding Z2M for these switches?

[fading briar]

Found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GG4cAMdtQI Is that a pretty good assessment? Is it out of date yet (it's a year old...)?

[astral seal]

If the smoke alarms are battery powered, they're not going to "mesh", they're going to be end devices.

[desert bloom]

Ok. Thanks

So is there such a thing as a device that 'meshes' in order to extend the range?

[fading briar]

Yes. Zigbee light switches and some bulbs will mesh to extend range. These are powered at all times.
Notably, Sengled bulbs do not extend the mesh. 😦

[astral seal]

Most bulbs, switches that use neutral wire, and plugs are router devices and will create a mesh.

[desert bloom]

Thank you. I’ll look into getting a bulb or two 🙂

[left magnet]

OK, so it looks, my Wlan is on channel 1 and zigbee on channel 15. Is this OK ? The raspberry pi is close to a lot of electronic stuff tough, as I have the radio, cd player, amplifier etc would you think this might be the origin of my problems ?

[sour shadow]

The pinned image covers channel choices rather well

All the other stuff may be a problem - how far away is the coordinator?

[serene briar]

I just bought a TRV (Unitec 30946) put in pairing mode but ZHA seems to not even find it...
I attach a pairing log, maybe it helps. There should be a quirk for it to work with zha on GH..

https://pastebin.com/u750wQYq

[safe niche]

Just got my Conbee 2 working with the deCONZ add-on and got my first light attached, took me some time to get it working but I got there, the issue I'm having now is I can't see the light in HA, is there anything I may have forgotten ? how is the light suppose to show up in HA ? any help appreciated thanks

[sour shadow]

You set up the deCONZ integration?

[signal moth]

Have you tried running: Service deconz.device_refresh
You could also try restarting your homeassistant and see if it shows up afterwards.

"Refresh with devices added to deCONZ after Home Assistants latest restart.

Note: deCONZ automatically signals Home Assistant when new sensors are added, but other devices must at this point in time (deCONZ v2.05.35) be added manually using this service or a restart of Home Assistant." From the deconz integration page.

[glossy marten]

How do you guys configure the hue dimmer seitch v2 with ZHA? so you get all the features

[lusty trench]

Hi, bought IKEA STYRBAR paired with HA but cannot find that device anywhere on the list? Found some information online about wrong firmware? But looks like i cannot update mine.

[sour shadow]

You said you were using ...?

ZHA? deCONZ? Zigbee2MQTT?

[lusty trench]

Zigbee2MQTT
STYRBAR remote control (E2001/E2002)
by IKEA
Firmware: 1.0.024

[sour shadow]

Does the device show in the Z2M UI?

[lusty trench]

Yes

[rapid dawn]

@lusty trench When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

[lusty trench]

But doesn't expose any entities

[sour shadow]

Well, look at the Device in HA, and if you're using add-ons there's known issues with the Mosquttito add-on

[lusty trench]

I am using Mosquttito add on so i bet i can't have this remote runnig in my setup?

[carmine hamlet]

That must be the British spelling 🙂

[lusty trench]

I think i found solution to manually update firmware, but that look like way over my HA skills 😦

[weak surge]

does anyone else having troubles with z2m after 10.2 update?

my z2m wont start on boot, the UI will glitch out and display big pictures of the devices, some devices will need to be repaired after restarting

[sour shadow]

Check the Z2M logs

[lusty trench]

Same, having the issues with UI

[versed lintel]

Spun up a new Z2M instance last night, paired a few ikea products, and it seems like somehow a remote and a light are interacting without me setting anything up in automations. How can I check if this is the case? Ikea tradfri on/off and ikea bulb

[sour shadow]

If you search you'll see that's a known behaviour with the Tradfri buttons

The solution should be there too, though I don't remember what it is

[versed lintel]

I've been searching, but I'll keep looking. Watching the logs it's not publishing on button press

[sour shadow]

From memory it's a default binding they have

[versed lintel]

Worked for years on my old install no issue, but of course redoing everything from scratch you forget all the tweaks and changes you make over time

deleted the device from z2m, it could still interface with the bulb on its own. So I reset the remote, it dropped the direct connection, readded to Z2M, everything seems to be working fine now.

[grizzled escarp]

I have a Tuya Siren (TS0601) and the batteries last only 5-6 days. Anyone experiences the same issue?

[violet dagger]

TS0601 can be a lot of devices, which one exactly exactly

[grizzled escarp]

this one: https://www.stationjo.com/products/coolcam-tuya-smart-siren-alarm

[violet dagger]

You know the battery is there just as backup power?

Main power source is USB

[grizzled escarp]

okay, sorry- i didn't know that 🤦‍♂️

i got that devices from a china dealer without package, manual etc.

[violet dagger]

But the details in how it's powered is on the link you sent

[grizzled escarp]

i also just came across this site when i was looking for the device.

thank you

[opaque helm]

which zigbee device got the best signal after usb dongle/repeater?

[violet dagger]

There is no signal ranking for devices

The one with the largest antenna appropriate for the wavelength theoretically wins

[opaque helm]

i got 4 ZBMini switches and their signa is kinda weak

[vivid turret]

Question: I have a hue dimmer and hue bulb, I've bound OnOff and LevelCtrl to both the bulb and coordinator, buttons on the dimmer control the bulb fine!

However, if I turn the bulb on/off using HA, the next time I press the dimmer on button it does nothing until I press it a second time

Can anyone explain the mechanism that's causing the switch to lose track, and is there any way around it?

Realise I could drop the binding and just do it all through HA but would like some fallback incase HA is down

Thanks! 🙂
(Using Z2M)

[weak surge]

getting an error while connecting ikea blinds remote to z2m

anybody have any idea on why?

[astral seal]

What kind of error?

[keen merlin]

My battery backed Zigbee Router:
Sonoff Dongle E flashed w/ Router firmware
Adafruit Power Boost 500 charger/500 mA 5V USB supply
12OO mAh battery
USB wall wart and cable
All it needs is a small enclosure
https://imgur.com/a/2snIo3X

[keen merlin]

Sorta true. Your mileage may vary with interference, radio quality, actual radio output power, as used antenna tunning and multipath fade.

[olive sequoia]

i have a radiator thermostat which was on a device list for workin with ZHA. im just starting out with homeassistant. I can see the thormostat and its state but when i try to change it, it resets. There are messages popping up in the bottom left, i think errors. but they go away too fast to read.

[violet dagger]

And most importantly where you put the device

[west forum]

i've recently set up zigbee2mqtt and i'm currently stuck with a ikea bulb i've stuck to a ceiling light

it works fine but for some reason the state in home assistant stays "on" even if i manually turn off the light via wall switch (not smart)

any idea why? availability feature is enabled and works as the device is offline in zigbee2mqtt

[keen merlin]

And most importantly where you put the

[safe niche]

Thanks mate, it looks like the deconz had not registered with HA as of yet, with the update to HA os this morning it showed up and I was able to authenticate with HA and now have my light on my dashboard 😁

now time to move my Philips stuff off their hub 😌

[fading briar]

Well... this can't be good. 😦
Error setting up entry ConBee II, s/n: DE2411473 - dresden elektronik ingenieurtechnik GmbH for zha

File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy_deconz/zigbee/application.py", line 464, in send_packet raise zigpy.exceptions.DeliveryError( zigpy.exceptions.DeliveryError: Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.NWK_INVALID_REQUEST: 194>

I've restarted HA a couple of times and even restarted the docker. Any other suggestions on what to do?
Is this a sign that my ConBee has just died?

[molten linden]

unplpug re-plug the stick?

[austere patio]

Is your Conbee any near new interference sources, like SSDs?

[daring ibex]

After upgrading my HA from SD to an SSD via full backup, my zigbee2mqtt is no longer communicating with my lights. Anyone know what might cause this or how to troubleshoot? I'm in the dark (literally) 😅

(Using Conbee 2, checked the config, and serial, all seems fine)

[molten linden]

SSDs can cause a lot of interference, make sure your conbee is on an extension cable far from the ssd

[orchid tundra]

Extension cables are a good idea in general for dongles

[fading briar]

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
re-plugged & restarted HA and I have lights again! TYVM

[fading briar]

My stick is 8' up in the air on top of a cabinet.
They said not to have it near a computer and I had a 10' USB extension cable laying around, so I figured I'd put it to good use. 😉

[opaque helm]

I assume zigbee light usually offer better coverage compared to light relay behind a switch, since then are in a box inside a wall. Am I correct or that doesn't effect much?

[violet dagger]

Depends

[opaque helm]

I think since light bulb is in the open(usually in the middle of the room) it has better coverage

[spring fox]

Hey there! Wondering if there is a simple way to migrate from zigbee2mqtt to ZHA with the same zigbee stick and WITHOUT re-pairing everything?

[serene briar]

Since I have zigbee lights that act as routers all around the house, is there a way of using something like an Ikea button to do room-context based actions based on which router picks up the signal or RSSI?

[opaque helm]

I'm just curious which zigbee lights you have?

[serene briar]

I use Philips hue, I have just one Ikea light that is a remnant of initial zigbee testing

Btw I think it's not really possible, is up to understand how the zigbee protocol selects a router, which might not be always the closest one

[opaque helm]

end-devices prefer coordinator over any other routers according to what I saw so far, even if the router is like literally next to them and coordinator like 5 meters behind a wall in another room...
end-device doesn't always act like wifi mesh where it connects to the closest one

[astral seal]

No.

[astral seal]

That's gonna depend on a bunch of things, like whether the electrical box and plate is plastic or metal, what the wall is made of, interference, the manufacturer of the switch or bulb, and so on.

[opaque helm]

True, that's my experience. We got on plastic boxes/plates and concrete walls in the house

[keen merlin]

If you have concrete walls you are going to have problems with RF transmission

[carmine hamlet]

Doh, my walls are made of interference

[opaque helm]

here is just for reference in my mesh https://prnt.sc/56kRwpeb2W4N

i can get kind of far with ZBMini switches but I feel they have "weak-ish" signal based on USB_repeater signal (plugged in a phone charger adapter), which is further than any other ZBMini switches

[austere patio]

When you set up ZHA, pick the "Use existing network settings" option. ZHA will slowly find devices on your network as they check in.

[daring ibex]

An extension cable solved the issue!

[mellow geode]

That's expected, as the Hue dimmers send alternating "on"/"off" commands instead of "toggle". (It's like this because it was only be meant to be bound in standalone mode -- so with no "Zigbee coordinator" on the network)

[compact oak]

**Hi, is it OK to connect zigbee devices? **
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005271016330.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.7.64cfRivTRivT7L&algo_pvid=f7c7d442-7444-45bb-b814-2e904e7f8243&algo_exp_id=f7c7d442-7444-45bb-b814-2e904e7f8243-3&pdp_npi=4%40dis!EUR!8.49!8.49!!!8.74!!%40211b5e2216973083707198854eafc4!12000032433818442!sea!IT!4236137478!&curPageLogUid=bBNdiNJJ1iHg

[sour shadow]

Assuming you'll use ZHA, should be ok

[spark plinth]

Hello I am moving away from the hue app and bridge and I have two questions in the hopes of rebuilding the functionality. I am using zigbee2mqtt. :

1. I have a hue tap (a very old one) and I used it with the hue bridge and app as a sort of visual doorbell when one of the buttons was pressed. The lights would blink on and off. In HA I have added the tap device and added actions for the 4 buttons, but I can only have them set a scene. I don't know how to make the bulbs blink. When I try to set up a scene there's an "effects" button on the bulb set up and it has blink, and breathe which would be perfect but when I save the scene and trigger it, the bulb just goes a solid colour. Should I be trying to figure out how these effects work, or should I be trying to figure out how to script some kind of blinking?

2. I had a second button that would toggle all the lights in a zone off, and then toggle them back on if you pressed the button a second time. The lights would be in their previous state. In HA it's easy enough to set up a toggle using two actions to set scenes for lights off, and then lights on, with a condition that checks if the lights are on or off. But it doesn't turn the lights on to their previous state, it just turns them on to a specific scene. Can you get the lights to just turn on to their previous state?

I have searched both the web and the discord for answers and found hints but HA is both awesomely promising, and overwhelming at the same time. I appreciate any guidance 🙂

[sour shadow]

1. Would be done with automations
2. You can use scene for this, snapshotting the state of entities and then restoring them

[rapid dawn]

Scenes

Instructions on how to setup scenes within Home Assistant.

Quality scale

:house: Internal

IoT Class

Unknown

Integration type

entity

Documentation

View the documentation

Source

View the source on GitHub

Issues

View known issues

[wicked spire]

Hi, i am using home assistant on my raspberry pi 4 would there be any way that i can connect zigbee devices dirrectly to the pi 4 to home assistant without using 3rd party apps that might send information to chinese servers. I know nothing about zigbee yet so this is why i am asking.

[sour shadow]

Yes

[rapid dawn]

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

[sour shadow]

Basically:

1. Pick ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT
2. Buy a supported coordinator (Tube and SMLight are the current best), and if USB connected put it on a USB extension cable
3. Buy some Zigbee routers and end devices
4. Profit!

https://blog.ceard.tech/2019/11/zigbee-and-home-assistant and https://blog.ceard.tech/2022/12/zigbee-tips explain about Zigbee and what some of those terms mean

[wicked spire]

I am currently using tuya devices and concerned with the fact that it talk to chinese servers, i would rather everything be local and faster.

[sour shadow]

Zigbee is always 100% local

[wicked spire]

Sounds good, i just want to be sure.

[wicked spire]

doe zha work with power-on state

[mellow geode]

Depends on the device. For Hue and IKEA lamps, it's supported for example

[wicked spire]

What about TRADFRI led bulb do you know?

[sour shadow]

The hardware in the bulb has to support it

[wicked spire]

Tradfri has power on state in the hardware

[sour shadow]

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/ can give you hints, but ZHA is different to Zigbee2MQTT and support will vary

[wicked spire]

According to that website the one i am planning to buy has power_on_behavior support in zigbee2mqtt

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/LED1836G9.html

[sour shadow]

Then ZHA may support it (or may not)

[wicked spire]

if it does not would it be that hard to simply use z2m instead :/

[jagged estuary]

Hello! My Aqara E1 radiator thermostat just doesn't want to connect to my Zigbee network and z2m... I pressed the ring several times and the pairing light blinked accordingly. I don't think it is a connection issue because I have a windows sensor not far away and many mesh-capable things a few meters away and the coordinator close too. Any ideas?

[sour shadow]

As long as you buy a CC2652(P) based coordinator not hard at all

[wicked spire]

Sounds good i will look at those ones

[mellow geode]

ZHA also supports that, as Tradfri and Hue implement it using the "Zigbee 3.0" way

[wicked spire]

Now i am confused on if i should go with ZHA or Z2B

[sour shadow]

"Yes"

[wicked spire]

Seems like Z2B has a website with guides and specs sheet of what works.

[sour shadow]

My TL/DR is that ZHA is easier, and standards compliant Zigbee devices will just work. There aren't that many devices that are standards compliant though, and it's easy to know what works with Zigbee2MQTT since they document it all

I run Zigbee2MQTT

[wicked spire]

I will go with z2m since i am a technical user and it looks to have allot of documentation seems like the right choice for me. lets just hope they don't decide to end it all in the future

[sour shadow]

Given how actively developed it is, if they stop a lot of us will be sad 😛

(it has a big user base outside of HA too)

[jagged estuary]

I'm using a Sonoff stick btw and I have 2 other thermostats running which work perfectly

[wicked spire]

@sour shadow you said you use z2M do you use it extensively or just for a few devices, also if you don't mind which adapter are you using?

[sour shadow]

About 90 to 100 devices, on a Zig-a-Zig-Ah! stick

I don't recommend the Sonof P stick, it's got ... problems

I've also got a Slaesh stick that I'm very happy with (I've run two meshes at times, for testing and stuff)

[wicked spire]

Did you have to flash those

[sour shadow]

Well, yes but no, but ... yes

They'll come pre-flashed, but you probably want to flash current firmware - easy to do though, and well documented

[wicked spire]

I see, but they seem to all be out of stock sadly

[sour shadow]

There are lots of options

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/adapters/#recommended

[wicked spire]

so any in the recommended section except the sonof stick

[sour shadow]

Tube also comes highly recomended

[wicked spire]

Yeah they are all out of stock lol

except for the CircuitSetup's CC2652P2 USB Coordinator

I will go with this one i guess

[molten linden]

I'll add more stock. thanks for reminder

lol

[wicked spire]

If you do when will you do it?

i might just buy one right now

[molten linden]

stock should be updated. on poe and usb/ethernet cc2652 and poe efr32

[wicked spire]

That would plug in to my raspberry pi4?

[molten linden]

hold on.

[sour shadow]

USB ones will, on a USB extension cable, PoE/ethernet are network connected

[wicked spire]

So, ones has usb and ethernet.

[sour shadow]

On a Pi you'll be fine with USB connected as long as you're not using any other USB connected devices. With other devices also USB connected you'll want a powered USB hub to avoid power problems.

[molten linden]

just added last one of the usb only (can be updated later to ethernet if ever desired https://tubeszb.com/product/cc2652p2-based-zigbee-to-ethernet-usb-serial-coordinator-2022/

[wicked spire]

That one plugs into the pi?

im confused rn

sorry

[molten linden]

yes comes with usb cable to plug directly into computer

[wicked spire]

Sounds good

if i am lucky i might be able to order it

Thank you for adding more stock!

[molten linden]

thank you

[wicked spire]

So basically i plug the adaptor in the wall, and i plug the usb cable to the computer and im good?

i might just be stupid sorry

I understand now it does both ethernet if i have a powered usb hub and plug in a ethernet cable, and then i can also just plug in straight in the pc without a ethernet cable

[jagged estuary]

Any ideas? Every other unit worked so far

[proven mason]

@sour shadow you said the other day that https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/tree/master/coordinator/Z-Stack_3.x.0/bin had the firmware for the sonoff, but that the latest was buggy

20230507 isnt stable

what version was that, and where do i find that on the github

[molten linden]

just usb into the pi

[sour shadow]

https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/discussions/478

20221226 seems to be the last "stable" (for most people)

[molten linden]

the model you got does not come with the ethernet module. (can be added later) but it just plugs straight into usb works like a stick, just on a cable, but you should put sticks on cables anyway so win win

[proven mason]

at the risk of getting raked over the coals: whats the different between router and coordinator in the zigbee world?

[sour shadow]

https://blog.ceard.tech/2019/11/zigbee-and-home-assistant#the-zigbee-mesh

[molten linden]

1 coordinator per mesh network, routers are mains powered devices that also repeat/route traffic, also there are endpoints which are typically battery powered sensors, these can connect directly to the coordinator or routers

[proven mason]

perfect i will read that

oh duh

[sour shadow]

Coordinator is the brains, routers just pass traffic around

[proven mason]

i got it

but im still gonna read that

and i would want the launchpad coordinator? for the firmware?

[sour shadow]

https://blog.ceard.tech/2022/12/zigbee-tips also has other stuff to help

You want the firmware for the stick/board you buy

[proven mason]

CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20230922.hex

hmmm

[sour shadow]

Different boards/sticks need slightly different firmware

[molten linden]

20230922 and 23 are testing fws

[sour shadow]

https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/tree/master/coordinator/Z-Stack_3.x.0/bin#tested-adapters

[proven mason]

oh i dont want testing so im going back to 202212-seomthing

[molten linden]

would stick with 20221226 until next release hopefully irons out issues

[proven mason]

CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_*.zip

ok i think i understand thanks to u both

the 478 thread doesnt have 20221229

[molten linden]

https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/tree/7398d834eb3a790876c280293c4181da96cc7114/coordinator/Z-Stack_3.x.0/bin

[proven mason]

my god, thanks

[proven mason]

i dont know why i couldnt find it

[wicked spire]

I see thats exactly what i wanted can't wait to start using zigbee

[proven mason]

u know what they say, ask once and look like a fool for 5 minutes

[molten linden]

I guess the easiest way is to go through the releases https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/releases

[proven mason]

https://sonoff.tech/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/SONOFF-Zigbee-3.0-USB-dongle-plus-firmware-flashing.pdf

lol that dont work for shit using the Flash Programmer 2

crashes as soon as i hit flash

[molten linden]

if you use HASOS with addons you can use my addon: https://github.com/tube0013/tubeszb_addons/blob/main/tzb-cc2652-flasher/DOCS.md

[proven mason]

that will work with the Sonoff ZBDongle-P?

i do use HAOS but was trying to not use my production machine 😦

but i guess i could use this when i setup the new HAOS box

[molten linden]

yes, you just have to manually trigger the Bootloader

[proven mason]

weird how sonoff directions dont say to do that

but some videos on youtube say to use bootloader mode

[left magnet]

So, meanwhile I have separated the 2.4 and 5 GHz WIFI, and I am making sure all device capable of using the 5GHz use it. You mean how far the WIFI coordinator is ? 10 meters and 10 cm of concrete wall away.

[molten linden]

there is a way to trigger it through software but my addon doesn't do that as it's sonoff specific, I may add it at some point

[proven mason]

hmmmm

the sonoff zigbee device shows in device manager but wants drivers

should that be some kind of serial driver?

end up trying CP210x_Universal_Windows_Driver

holy crip its a crapple

i got it, amazing how u have to piece together docs, github, videos, etc

so i could take an extra sonoff antenna and flash it with router software and it just exists in my house to be a router (repeater)?

and it just needs power?

@sour shadow thank you for the reading material, appreciate it

with regards to zigbee2mqtt vs zha. can you run both at the same time using the same coordinator? or is it one or the other?

for example, i bought a presense sensor and as soon as i realized it needs zigbee2mqtt i returned it. i also have outlets (in wall mains) that the only way to update the firmware is over zigbee2mqtt.

[molten linden]

It’s one or the other

zha supports fw updates

[proven mason]

not for the enlighten outlets though, let me look it up

i guess i could maintain a test environment that uses z2m

no wait, those are zwave, never mind

[mellow geode]

Every device that Z2M can do OTA updates for, ZHA can as well. Most images are linked here: https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-OTA/blob/master/index.json
You can drop them in your configured zha_ota folder and start the update: https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/wiki/OTA-Device-Firmware-Updates

At some point in the future, updates via HA update entities should be availalbe. But likely not in the near-future

[olive sequoia]

Hello. What is a recommended zigbee radiator thermostat for using with home assistant? the one i bought did show the current temperature but couldnt get set in ZHA, and with zigbee2mqtt it is able to be controlled but it doesnt show the current temperature. i just picked one off of the compatibility list when ordering one for testing.

[olive sequoia]

although the compatibility page for that hama thermostat says it should expose local temperature.

[sour shadow]

So meanwhile I have separated the 2 4

[blissful cipher]

I have issues with the radar motion sensor TS0601

[fervent tiger]

Almost 2 years ago I've upgraded my Zigbee coordinator. Wasn't easy, so I made a tutorial: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/tutorial-to-upgrade-slaeshs-cc2652rb-zigbee-usb-stick/374306/3 Today I want to upgrade again. Follewed my own tuto 😉 In step 4 I get an error
git clone https://github.com/JelmerT/cc2538-bsl.git xcrun: error: invalid active developer path (/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools), missing xcrun at: /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin/xcrun
Any clever Python experienced guy wants to help me? How should I proceed?

[sour shadow]

Mac?

[fervent tiger]

Yes

[sour shadow]

Google missing xcrun and you get many answers

[fervent tiger]

Thanks, this software requires 15,6 Gb!

Is it possible to remove the software once the upgrade is done? I only need it to upgrade my coordinator

[sour shadow]

Almost certainly

[wintry olive]

Hey, I just bought a light switch zigbee from tuya but I don't have a tuya zigbee HUB, only an Echo Alexa. I managed to connect the interruptor to the alexa, but it shows as a lamp and I can't select which button to turn on/off, only the entire 3gang on or off... Anyone knows how I can add on the alexa as an interruptor or any other way?

[fervent tiger]

Zigbee coördinator and Thread updated. Thanks

[wintry olive]

Bought this one
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005003269508944.html?aff_fcid=42dc97e8a7c847c387b8b02642de0b6d-1695092236269-00570-_AqgCdt&tt=CPS_NORMAL&aff_fsk=_AqgCdt&aff_platform=shareComponent-detail&sk=_AqgCdt&aff_trace_key=42dc97e8a7c847c387b8b02642de0b6d-1695092236269-00570-_AqgCdt&terminal_id=e39195d175f94cefa220037a3c77990a&afSmartRedirect=y&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra

[sour shadow]

Assuming you're using Home Assistant, you can use ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT and your choice of coordinator

[wintry olive]

I dont have any 😦

Just started my smart home

[rapid dawn]

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

[sour shadow]

There's one starter

[sour shadow]

And the top pin explains more about Zigbee

[opaque sundial]

Hi all! I think this question may have been asked multiple times. Does anyone know if it is possible to use a Ikea Trafdri repeater as a "range extender" for an already existing Zigbee gateway connected to Tuya? Because I've bought two of those, but my Tuya app does not pair with them

[sour shadow]

If you can pair it to the gateway, yes

[blissful cipher]

Did you put the tradfri repeaters into pairing mode?

[opaque sundial]

I'm treating them as sockets, so with a small needle I'm pressing the button in the small hole until it starts blinking. It quickly blinks for a couple of times ,then it stops blinking

[sour shadow]

It's possible the gateway only supports whitelisted devices

[opaque sundial]

I don't think so, maybe it's not really going in pairing mode as it doesn't blink

Side question, I've never looked into zigbee2mqtt, is it an alternative to pariring zigbee devices to tuya?

[sour shadow]

Yes, and so much better

[opaque sundial]

Do I need extra hardware?

and / or a good guide to follow so i can spend all the night? 😄

[sour shadow]

You need a coordinator, and they have awesome docs

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/ and click Get Started

[opaque sundial]

Got it, so I should throw away my zigbee gateway

[sour shadow]

You may be able to flash it if you're lucky

https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman/issues/319#issuecomment-789757269 has details of some hackable hubs

[paper umbra]

Hey guys,
I moved my HA to a new pi. I did a backup and restore and everything seems to work nicely, except zigbee2mqtt. My few test devices can't connect or I'm not receiving any messages.

I'd like to start over with zigbee, but can't delete the devices either.

If I remove the addon and the mqtt broker, will they properly remove all previous configuration?

[lucid sparrow]

is it common for the sonoff p dongle to have usb dropouts?

its triggering the absolute shit out of me

i have a spare one.. it does the same thing.. maybe its usb controller related?

[ashen bluff]

Have you tried re-flashing it? I heard it can have NVRAM issues

[lucid sparrow]

have not.. im keen to give it a shot though

does it require soldering iron?

it wont do it for like 12 hours.. and i think.. ahh.. its fixed.. then it will do it 3 times quick succession

[ashen bluff]

No. Search for from: tinkerer nvram here to see what I mean. I haven't had issues with my own though.
The ZigStarGW-MT can clear the NVRAM and flash but you can probably also use another tool. I use cc2538-bsl but only to flash.

[lucid sparrow]

and then just for lulsy.. call itself ttyACM1 the last time.. which i've worked around by using /dev/serial/by-id .. but that has issues with docker

it seems you need to run it in privileged mode and pass /dev/ through as a mount for that to work reliably

[ashen bluff]

/dev/serial/by-id is indeed recommended and should have no issues with docker. If you run privileged you don't have to pass anything

[lucid sparrow]

it passes through just the device id though

ie.. it doesn't update if the device changes its device number

unless you restart the container

[ashen bluff]

That's kinda the point of using /dev/serial/by-id. It should stay the same

[lucid sparrow]

it just creates a symlink to the device

but it only checks that the once when you start the container

[ashen bluff]

It's possible your USB ports are going into power saver mode or something. Check dmesg -T. Might have something useful in there

[lucid sparrow]

maybe.. or they're just crud

total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Oct 16 09:59 usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_20220817085207-if00 -> ../../ttyACM1
root@superbin:~# ls -l /dev/ttyACM1 
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 166, 1 Oct 16 09:59 /dev/ttyACM1
snadge@superbin:~$ docker exec -it home-assistant bash
89c9a6f2c585:/config# ls -l /dev/ttyACM0 
crw-rw----    1 root     dialout   166,   0 Oct 16 09:59 /dev/ttyACM0```

so the serial by-id name doesn't change

but you can see inside the container ttyACM0 (which is linked to that on creation time) is still 166, 0

instead of 166, 1

if i restart the container.. then it works

if you just pass through the device name as is.. it is static it seems.. so people work around that by passing /dev through

which is pretty hacky

i have a different host i can swap out to see if its the usb port / controller

[ashen bluff]

Yeah seems like this is still an issue for docker

[lucid sparrow]

thats okay though, i think i want to focus on the usb dropping out issue rather than the docker issue

which you can work around by passing through dev and using privileged mode, which is obviously hacky

because presumably even if the device drops out, gets a new device number.. the zha integration probably needs to reload

which my understanding is, it does that automatically

[wicked spire]

Hey, i am in canada i am looking for a zigbee light switch that would work well with smart bulb any suggestions?

[midnight hull]

Hi there.
I'm having troubles with getting connected the outdoor sensor via ZigBee. I have a ZigBee coordinator TI CC2531. Only end device I have is a temperature/humidity sensor Tuya (TS0201).
The problem is that when the sensor is outside (10 meters and 3 walls from the coordinator) I don't get any data from it. In logs I see that the sensor is pingable:

2023-10-16 15:48:25.945 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0xF41D](TS0201): Device seen - marking the device available and resetting counter
2023-10-16 15:48:25.945 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.device] [0xF41D](TS0201): Update device availability -  device available: True - new availability: True - changed: False

At the same place outside I have no issues with wi-fi having the accesspoint close to coordinator as well.

If I though bring the sensor close to the coordinator it gets data ok. But even then the LQI is just 115 when the devices are 5cm apart.

What might be the issue? Is it coordinator? I read this chip is quite old...

[astral seal]

It's an older chip but the problem is probably the "10 meters and 3 walls" situation. If you can get a router device like a Zigbee smart plug or bulb into the room before that exterior wall, it would probably help.

[midnight hull]

Thank you for the tip. Smart plug or bulb might be a solution.
What is the effective distance for the end device? Is it really that short? And what about LQI? I read its range 0-255, so I expected to see over 250 when ED and coordinator are 5cm apart.

[jovial thunder]

Hello, I have an issue with Zigbee2MQTT
Specifically, there seems to be nothing I can use in an automation, to tell me that a zigbee device is online or not.
Am I missing something, or is there genuinely no way to tell, short of trying to use it?

[keen merlin]

From Microchip:Received Signal Strength (RSSI) is a measure of incoherent (raw) RF power in a channel. The RF power can come from any source: other IEEE802.15.4 transmitters, Bluetooth, WiFi, FSK, or background radiation. RSSI is also called Energy Detection (ED) Level and is used for Clear Channel Assessment (CCA). For a single-hop network, RSSI may be used for LQI.

Link Quality Indication (LQI) is a cumulative value used in multi-hop networks to assess the cost of a link. LQI values can be modified at each step as the massage propagates through the mesh matrix. Messages taking different paths through a mesh may have different LQI values, the path with the best LQI is chosen for subsequent messages. Outgoing LQI values can be calculated from coherent (demodulated) Packet Error Rates (PER), RSSI and incoming LQI values. The exact method depends on the network stack being used.

The last line is significant .. There is no standard

[tight ibex]

I just received my very first CC2652P adapter today! I've never run zigbee2mqtt. The https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/ page talks about tools for flashing it. But do I need to flash anything and where can I find the image for it?

[paper umbra]

I haven't flashed mine, but I think I'm on a precious version.

The sonoff stick ist Pretty popular. Just watch 1-3 youtube Videos how to set them up

Or look for guides on the Internet. It boils down to installing mosquitto addon, zigbee2mqtt addon, configured both, finished

[tight ibex]

Yeah, going to run it in docker on a rpi. That part is straight forward and doesn't worry me. Its the flashing part before that I'm searching for. E.g. are the CC2656P coordinator image suitable for all makes of adapters?

[paper umbra]

no clue, mate. Maybe someone else?

[sick osprey]

i have a hama thermostat connected via z2m, what does the "auto-mode" option mean in HA? is there a way i can set what the auto-mode does?

[paper umbra]

Ah, yes, I have the CC2531 😉

[astral seal]

Always good policy to update the firmware on anything you just bought
https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware

And here's the other thing you'll need
https://github.com/JelmerT/cc2538-bsl

[tight ibex]

They work regardless of the adapter brand/make?

I.e. it is universal to the chip model, right?

[austere patio]

Look in https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/tree/master/coordinator/Z-Stack_3.x.0/bin

[tight ibex]

My device is from Ali and I got it by following the link on zigbee2mqtt page under Vision CC2652 dongle and followed the VS202 link to Ali, yet there is nothing in the product page on Ali that suggests either Vision or VS202. And Vision is not listed among the above table. Hmm...

[midnight hull]

From Microchip Received Signal Strength

[sick osprey]

somehow can't register with TI, always tells me my account doesn't exist :/

[dreamy surge]

Hi I’m rather new to zigbee and I’ve got an zigbee thermostat I’ve paired it and it shows up as an TS0601
by _TZE200_2ekuz3dz however I only got the RSSI and lqi parameter in zha it’s an TGR85-ZB-ep https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Beok_TGR85-ZB.html should I remove it from the fabric and add it again or is it just not that well supported?

[mellow geode]

It's not yet supported then. Check https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues for device support.

Although these custom quirks aren't completely optimal (partly also the reason they're not merged in zha-quirks at the moment), check out the ts0601_thermostat_avatto.py from https://github.com/jacekk015/zha_quirks.
You can use that as a custom quirk for now. It can break at any time though and isn't officially supported.

... although the _TZE200_2ekuz3dz is added to one official quirk ( tuya/ts0601_electric_heating.py MoesBHT)

[sick osprey]

had the same problem with my thermostats (different brand tho), updating HA helped for me

[mellow geode]

So yeah, if you're not running HA 2023.10.x, maybe create a new issue on the repo (linked above) too and please provide the device signature and/or device diagnostic information, so we can properly track the issue and what exact device/firmware you have.

[dreamy surge]

Thanks I’ll have look into it tomorrow!

[severe zenith]

Hello, is it possible to perform a raw attribute read using zha (without zha_tookit)? I am trying the following with no luck:

service: zha.issue_zigbee_cluster_command
data:
  ieee: 00:1f:ee:00:00:00:9a:e3
  endpoint_id: 1
  cluster_id: 0
  manufacturer: 0
  command: 0
  command_type: server  # not sure
  cluster_type: in   # not sure
  params:
    attribute_ids: [4]  # not sure

Or perhaps I misunderstood that "command" != "command"? I.e. one is cluster command (on/off) and second is low-level command (read attribute), with the later not being available to fire as ZHA service?

[mellow geode]

That is for ZCL commands, not reading attributes.
You can either use ZHA toolkit or read them using the "Manage Zigbee device" -> "Clusters" UI on the device page

Why do you want to read an attribute manually though?

[hollow forum]

Got the Aqara hub and confirmed my Curtain is on the latest firmware. After re-pairing to HA it immediately goes unavailable after the first open/close command and has the following event:

event_type: zha_event
data:
  device_ieee: ****
  unique_id: ****
  device_id: ****
  device_event_type: device_offline
origin: LOCAL
time_fired: "2023-10-16T22:21:56.342945+00:00"
context:
  id: ****
  parent_id: null
  user_id: null```

[mellow geode]

Can you check debug logs? You can enable them on the integrations page, re-pair, cause the issue again, wait a few minutes, and then disable the debug logs again (which will cause them to be downloaded).
You can put parts on dpaste or DM me the entire file (or parts) if you want

Also, what if you issue a set position command instead of open/close?

Does it also go unavailable then?

[hollow forum]

I'll DM you parts, and then I'll test that next!

It seems to break even just by doing the set position. Definintely unavailable, but stuck on Is closing

[glass badger]

Hi, I recently connected a bunch of IKEA Tradfri GU10 bulbs to HAOS through Z2MQTT. I noticed that it seems to discover the bulbs as "sensors", rather than "lights". As a result, I'm unable to setup automations and stuff which require interacting with the bulbs as a "light" device (eg. Brightness, color temp, etc).

Anyone has any idea/ suggestions please?

[merry talon]

I moved and have an old CC25xx USB stick and 3 aqara leak sensors I want to work. I had zigbee2mqtt running before I moved but I haven't tried this in 2+ years. Can someone help me figure out how to get one of these sensors recognized?

[merry talon]

the status page says "bridge state: offline" so start there?

root: dmesg
New USB device found, idVendor=0451, idProduct=16a8, bcdDevice= 0.09
[ 2.332138] usb 1-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 2.332150] usb 1-1.3: Product: TI CC2531 USB CDC
[ 2.332160] usb 1-1.3: Manufacturer: Texas Instruments
[ 2.332170] usb 1-1.3: SerialNumber: __0X00124B00194A2455
though I don't see it actually mounted to anything

[soft plover]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but is there any way to test z2m without all my zha devices being gone?
Background, I just have problems with my TS0601 Zigbee TRV's which do not show me all attributes in zha?

[violet dagger]

test on the same coordinator?

[lucid sparrow]

i had to remove my usb extenders.. and after testing for about a day (inconclusive) they were causing the dropouts on my sonoff-e dongle 😐

[austere patio]

If you're on Home Assistant 2023.10.x, ZHA will notify you if your network settings have been overwritten by Z2M and offer a restore repair

[severe zenith]

So zha.issue_zigbee_cluster_command can only issue Cluster-specific commands, but not "2.5 General Command Frames" (as per ZCL rev 8)?

[severe zenith]

Neither zha_toolkit nor reading an attribute manually is an option. 😦 I am trying to write manufacturer-specific attribute (which is missing in UI) of Array type (currently unsupported in zha_tookit - PR underway: https://github.com/mdeweerd/zha-toolkit/pull/210) For debug purposes I wanted to get rid of middlewares and get as close to zigpy as possible.

[mellow geode]

I think so, yes

[mellow geode]

Is the manufacturer specific attribute added using a custom quirk?

[dreamy surge]

Right i updated HA to .10 but still not supported, i'm now diving into quircks 🙂

right it's detecting that it needs an quirck but can't load the correct one

[shy plover]

hello
i have zigbee device (garden water control valve) in SmartLive app i see device correct and can on/off controll the valve. But in HA via Tuya integration this device is not possible controll. Other devices working well. Is there some chance to make this device work? Some workaround via Tuya developer or something like this? Thanks for help.

[violet dagger]

You can try to connect it using ZHA or Z2M if you have a supported coordinator

Another way is via the Tuya-Local custom component

[full needle]

i have a philips hue bridge and a hue light connected to it. i recently got an ethernet zigbee controller. can i remove the bridge and add the hue light and remote to the controller instead of hue bridge?

[violet dagger]

Yes

[minor dagger]

I just added a whole bunch of new switches in my house, through ZHA... How do I get the entire network to remap itself so everything is connected properly to the best connected devices, instead of directly to the coordinator which may be on the other side of my house?

[full needle]

yeah i worked it out htanks

i just can't work out the automation for the remote to change colour temp

[fading briar]

I've got an Aqara Temp & Humidity sensor. It's been working great for the best part of 2 years. All of a sudden, it's reporting unavailable.
I've got a graph charting battery level for most of my battery powered devices. When this last reported in about an hour ago, it was at 65% .
I've short-pressed the button. I've long-pressed the button. I've removed & reinstalled the battery. It still shows unavailable. All other devices are available and functioning, so it's not a general ZigBee failure.
What else can I try to revive this?

When I press the button, the blue light does flash, so I have every reason to believe the battery isn't dead. I did swap another battery into it (of unknown provenance) and a button press with that battery does not cause the light to blink, so I do believe the "other" battery is dead while the original one is good...

[violet dagger]

Change the battery

[fading briar]

Even though it was reporting 65% battery level and the light does blink?

I'll see if I've got any spares...

[violet dagger]

Yes

[fading briar]

Found a new battery in the package. No dice.

[fading briar]

Weird things have been happening lately - I've had a few Shelly devices drop off WiFi, only to reappear a day or so later. I guess this is just the next in line. I'll give it a couple of days to see what happens.

[oak condor]

I do updates on Monday of each week and since last Monday I've had a couple of zigbee devices go haywire. After I do my updates and the server restarts one of my Singled bulbs and a Third Reality Button (which is set up via automation to on/off the Singled bulb) don't work for about a day. For example, after the server restarts yesterday those devices didn't work. They show up in the UI but HA can't turn the bulb on/off (but Alexa can!). Then, as of this evening the combination works just fine. How can I go about troubleshooting this. Zigbee2MQTT

[severe zenith]

ZHA raw attribute read/write

[dreamy surge]

Hi maybe an weird question, do i need to use the tuya app to activate their zigbee devices or should it just work?

[violet dagger]

it should just work if they're supported by your integration

[final tulip]

Hello I hope your all doing well I just got my HA yellow and some aqara d1 switches that use zigbee and I want to connect them with the HA some ppl told me that I need another hub to connect the switch and then connect the hub with HA is that true??

[violet dagger]

no, HA yellow comes with a Zigbee coordinator

[sudden yarrow]

Dude, that's exactly the thing you asked in #yellow-archived yesterday and you got the exaxt same answer

[violet dagger]

but this time i answered so its got that special sumtin' sumtin'

[final tulip]

Yeah man I just got confused cuz I keep telling one of my friends and he keeps saying no it's impossiblee

In so sorry

I'm*

[violet dagger]

is your friend a smart home expert?

[final tulip]

Nope but he installed aqara devices in his house

[violet dagger]

yes, i also drive a car but don't have a clue on how to fix the engine

[final tulip]

That's why I'm asking the mechanic lol

[violet dagger]

but good news for your friend, you'll make the impossible into possible

[final tulip]

Omg I'm about to achieve something no one has ever donee

Thanks alot for the help guys I appreciate it 🙏

[sudden yarrow]

I would place a bet on:
he saw the label "*Aqara hub is required" on the packaging

[final tulip]

Nope it's all in Chinese so even if he did he wouldn't understand he told me he saw some YouTube tutorials and he assured that I need a hub lol now I'll surprise him nd make him get a HA yellow

[sudden yarrow]

I know someone, who has quite a good database, what is compatible with ZHA or other Zigbee integrations:
If your device is listed there and marked as ZHA compatible (the HA logo), it is almost a guarantee it works.
https://zigbee.blakadder.com/index.html

[final tulip]

Thank you so much I appreciate it

[dire hedge]

The Aqara door sensors drive me absolutely insane. They refuse to stay paired to the router nearest them, attempt to switch to farthest away device in house and go unavailable

[violet dagger]

They're fun like that

[primal echo]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but here goes:
I got a sonoff zigbee dongle connected to my raspberry pi running Zigbee2MQTT through docker.
That part is up and running.
Then on my NAS I got a docker container with Home Assistant and one with Mosquitto
That part is also up and running.
However I'm not sure if everything is connected or integrated. When trying to add the integration in Home assistant it asks for a host adress but does not say what or how to find that host adress.

[drifting flare]

I have 1 or 2 (of 7) aqara [temperature] sensors that do similar - I haven't worked out which routers they don't get on with yet. IKEA lightbulb maybe?

It's annoying that they need the long button push to reconnect to the network

[dire hedge]

I threw a liquid sensor under my fridge that's currently offline. I'm hoping I just pushed it under there too far and it's not also trying to pair to the farthest possible away device

It's funny you mention the IKEA lightblub....that's what my mailbox sensor attaches itself to

[austere patio]

They pick the first one they hear. Make sure to re-join it to the network by only permitting joins through the closest router, so that it has only one choice.

[dark ridge]

Hey all, any insight into the Skyconnect issue I described here?
#hardware-archived message

[austere patio]

You mentioned both Thread and Zigbee. Are you running multi-protocol firmware on it?

[dark ridge]

Yeah, I am.

[austere patio]

When you say "and after some troubleshooting what seems to be happening is that the Skyconnect essentially disappears as far as HA is concerned.", what do you mean?

[dark ridge]

Actually, I guess that's a slightly inaccurate characterization. It still thinks it sees it, at least in the sense that "home assistant skyconnect" shows up on the hardware page. But when I try to reconfigure ZHA/OTBR, it doesn't work, and they both fail to initialize on system start. But unplugging and re-plugging works like a charm.

[austere patio]

How reliably are you able to reproduce this issue? Do you have any Thread devices or just Zigbee?

I think you're running into https://github.com/home-assistant/addons/issues/3192, which I'm trying to reproduce (and get fixed)

[dark ridge]

So, I have Thread devices, but I have actually yet to get to successfully connect to HA. It is 100% reproducible, because the issue happens every time the VM and/or host machine restarts.

Looking at the issue you linked, it seems to be a different situation because it's describing intermittent failure during a given period of HA running. And restarting the host fixes it, rather than being an initiating event.

[austere patio]

So for your specific problem, you can fix it by fully rebooting the host, without physically unplugging your adapter? Does a reboot power cycle USB devices on your setup?

[dark ridge]

This is the only thread I have found were someone describes what I am seeing:
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/skyconnect-zha-issues/533619

[dark ridge]

No, the opposite. Sorry, I was saying that a full reboot seems to be a fix in the issue that you linked to based on reading the first post. In my case, everything is stable as long as my HA install keeps running after I plug in the skyconnect. But once the host restarts, OR if the VM restarts independent of the host, ZHA and OTBR fail to initialize on HA startup. And the ONLY way to resolve is to physically disconnect and reconnect the adapter, then reload the integrations.

[austere patio]

That sounds like the issue I linked to above, where the firmware on the stick crashes and no amount of rebooting or resetting will work unless you physically unplug it (or power cycle the system in a way to cut off power to the stick)

[dark ridge]

In the first post on that issue, the person says "usually requires a complete reboot of the host" and in my case that doesn't fix anything.

[austere patio]

They later clarify "Simply turning the VM for HAOS off and on nor just rebooting the host without the replug was not enough.", which sounds like what you're describing

[dark ridge]

Yeah, that part is consistent. Although it's interesting that the issue is talking about, seemingly, spontaneous failures. Rather than failures that seem to only occur when the VM restarts.

[austere patio]

There's possibly more than one bug involved here but if you're able to reproduce the issue somewhat consistently, I would love to know how. Does it still happen if your Zigbee and Thread devices are disconnected from power?

[dark ridge]

Don't know, haven't tried that. I can this weekend and report back.

[austere patio]

Tag me if you have any updates. Or leave a comment in the above GitHub issue. Thank you!

[earnest aspen]

What's the best way to set up ZHA on a remote system from my main HA instance?

I've got HA running on a full-sized server in my basement. Various Zigbee devices are upstairs, and it'll be a pain to run a cord from the server to the top floor. I have the ZBDongle-E.

I've got a spare RPI3 flashed to the newest debian headless. I learned last night that Z2MQTT doesn't like the ZBDongle-E, so I understand that I need to run ZHA. I can put HA onto the pi, but a) that seems like a lot just to run ZHA, and b) I don't even know if I can then connect that HA instance to my main one.

What do you folks recommend?

[grim igloo]

Is there Ethernet upstairs?

[earnest aspen]

No

[grim igloo]

😢

[austere patio]

Install ser2net on the Pi, set it up with the stick, and then have ZHA connect to socket://pi.ip.addr:port

[grim igloo]

Yea but over Wi-Fi…

That’s a worse end result than just leaving coordinator in the basement

[jade cliff]

Have I made a mistake by using the included battery in a smoke detector that's in a remote location 😖 the battery has been 100% for more than 2 months but in the beginning of the week it went down to 0% over 30ish hours

Theoretically it should've lasted at least 2 years

[earnest aspen]

Are you concerned about ping times?

[earnest aspen]

Thanks. I will take a look at that

[grim igloo]

yeah it's generally considered a bad idea to go from zigbee to wifi to home assistant

[earnest aspen]

My zigbee's are a couple of suckers that I don't need to go fast, but I can definitely keep that in mind

[grim igloo]

usually in your situation people will buy a PoE zigbee coordinator and connect zha or z2m remotely like ser2net does

[earnest aspen]

Put it this way: I'm nuking a Vera for this little frankenstein (who btw is going to act as a satellite microphone for voice assistant as well). Trust me - I'm already overjoyed with the stupid thing. It'll be hard to do worse than that horrid little box.

[earnest aspen]

Yep, up and running, and it's working great. You guys nailed it as always. Thanks @austere patio and @grim igloo (that's gotta be worth a ping)

[harsh mango]

i am having issues where my zigbee devices randomly show as "on" when they are not actually on, or in rare cases, get turned off with no interaction whatsoever. the logs show the devices being turned on/off however there is no automation, script, or user that is doing so. could this possibly be a zigbee issue rather than a HA issue? i saw somewhere in the logs that channel 11 is 94% utilization. at first i didnt think that could be causing the devices to toggle by themselves, but, maybe??

[brisk basin]

Hi Guys, I just got some Zigbee Temp/Humidity sensors (_TZE200_locansqn, TS0601) which can kind of be integrated (RSSI unknown, and no sensors detected). What would next step be? (Using ZHA/HA)

[violet dagger]

Create a custom quirk for them

[brisk basin]

ok, will try...

[molten linden]

search the quirks (zha_device_handlers) repo there are some issues that may have quirks that work within that have not been made official PRs to make it into a release.

[violet dagger]

https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/1286

[proven mason]

hey folks, it was explained to me the other day by this channel that i could effectively migrate from my Sonoff ZBDongle-P to the SkyConnect without having to do scortched earth. questions are, what makes that possible and how do i know that (aside from someone telling me that)? like, what is the resource or what am i looking at? is it the chipset? im trying to learn here because i need to do a backup/restore/migration to a new box and i am doing this SLOWLY because there's no clear documentation (from what i can see) about how do this without screwing my 100 device PAN.

fwiw, it am buying three of everything in total (one set is my production environment which i will not touch or involve in any testing, because, well, who does that?) and the other two sets will be for repetitive testing scenarios to document how to do this. i hope to write a github or forum post for others

[safe dock]

Hello there, I have a "simple ? " question about Zigbee devices under ZHA
I have a router, A power plug acting as relay and a thermometer as end device (yeah, it's simple)
I have often problem getting the refreshed values from the sensor, who's sending to me the same values for hours
I raised on HA the sensibility to 1/10 ° but it seems to not bother
Is there a way to send a service call or anything to force fetch the values ? I could use some automation to force refresh each 15/30mn (I know it will be power hungry, but I like my temperatur graphs refreshed often, and my BLE ones are doing it fine)

[molten linden]

a zigbee coordinator no matter what chipset basically has all the settings for the network stored on it. when they are backed up, the settings are written to a universal backup format that can be restored to any other supported radio to migrate the network to a new coordinator.

[proven mason]

ok

that is helpful, however, changing channels hypothetically, would require a forklift/rebuild

so as long as i stay on channel 25, the restoration and database restore, should work for most radios

[austere patio]

Just set up your new box with the old stick and make sure it works, go to ZHA's config page, and then click "migrate radio". It'll guide you through the rest.

[proven mason]

ok!

the migrate radio is ON THE NEW SYSTEM

i read somewhere that u do that on the old system

ah this makes sense, what if im using a new antenna, do i migrate on the old system first?

that would make sense

[austere patio]

It doesn't matter where you do the migration

[proven mason]

provided the restore is done on the new system FIRST?

ah ok, so i would plug in the old radio to the newly restored system THEN do a migration to a new radio

[austere patio]

If you do a Home Assistant OS backup/restore, move over all of your USB sticks, everything should work on the new system

[proven mason]

i was making a LEAP the first time, i was doing a backup of the old radio on the old system, restoring to new system and using a new radio

[austere patio]

Then you can migrate from one Zigbee stick to another

[proven mason]

i was skipping a step it seems

i was trying to just restore to a new radio from the getgo

[austere patio]

You can skip the step too, it doesn't really matter. Just make sure to use the "migrate radio" button but click "re-configure current radio", since you have no "old" radio

[proven mason]

right

i did that and all my devices lit up but didnt work

lit up like, i could toggle them in the dashboard

but they didnt actually work

whats that process look like? how long does it take for the devices to realize they got a new radio to report to/

[austere patio]

Usually instantly

Devices don't notice a change, since there is no "new" radio from their perspective

[proven mason]

argh ok, that didnt work for me like that, i waited like an hour

but like i said i went to a NEW radio (identical model with newer firmware)

[austere patio]

Migrate to the new system with the old stick first. If that works, then migrate to the new stick. If that doesn't work, let me know and we can figure it out.

[proven mason]

yeah ok, thats where im at in my head

i bailed, went back to old system, everything is working

i re-wrote the emmc on the nuc i have and am starting fresh

i gotta do zwave too, and that didnt work either

so what im going to do first is actually setup a NEW environment with a couple zigbee and couple zwave devices that i have extra

and practice the migration

next question, aside from backups, are there any HA/DR approaches? multiple boxes multiple radios, or a primary/secondary approach?

[harsh mango]

oo, that's a great question.

[austere patio]

As long as your new radio has no formed network (the state it's in after you migrate away from it with ZHA, or reset it manually with zigpy-cli), your network will be automatically re-formed from /config/zigbee.db on startup

So if your new system has a radio plugged in (and is configured to point to it, as each radio's /dev/serial/by-id/ path is unique), and your /config/zigbee.db file is somewhat up-to-date, the new setup will take over

[harsh mango]

sick

[austere patio]

Alternative is to set up a TCP coordinator with ser2net and have ZHA point to socket://ip.addr:port instead of a /dev/serial/by-id/... serial port

[proven mason]

is there a guide on how to reset it with zigpy-cli? because i definitely have my second radio orphaned on a system that doesnt exist anymore

[austere patio]

Truthfully, as long as you avoid the Sonoff USB Dongle Plus-P, you shouldn't ever experience a broken setup. That is the only stick that I'm aware of that can sometimes just "stop working".

[proven mason]

but could u have multiple coordinators via tcp?

jesus, thats what i have

fuck me

[austere patio]

Easy to fix by re-flashing firmware, which can be done remotely

[proven mason]

i did update the firmware to 20221226

apparently the latest stable

[austere patio]

You can only have a single active coordinator

[proven mason]

right

i figured as much

but nothing in the way of active/passive, i guess the DR plan is to have an extra radio and just migrate really quick

no HA, manual DR

High Availability!

not Home Assistant

[austere patio]

I've never heard of a stick failing unless you physically destroy it. Just have a way to re-flash its firmware and you will be fine with a single one.

[proven mason]

https://tenor.com/view/ralph-wiggum-learnding-learning-simpsons-gif-9251847

and a good backup!

lol which i have setup to go to my NAS

ugh, no gifs in chat, so sad

now i gotta go figure out zwave from that channel

[ember raven]

Anyone know of a zigbee switch (one I can build into a wall box) that works with momentary rocker switches?

[pine goblet]

Can anyone recommend me a zigbee switch relay that does power monitoring?

Or am I going to have to go Wi-Fi route?

[tranquil arch]

Is anyone currently having issues with ZHA? All of my devices won't connect. My system has been running smoothly for months. Tried reverting HA update

[astral seal]

Sonoff zbmini or zbmini-L2 depending on whether you have neutral wire. I have a couple of the L2 and they've been solid.

[austere patio]

Can you post a link to diagnostics JSON for the integration?

[tranquil arch]

How do I do this?

[austere patio]

Go to Settings > Devices & Services > Zigbee Home Automation (cog wheel) > three dot menu > Download diagnostics

[tranquil arch]

https://filebin.net/8y0ruu61jldwykuk

[austere patio]

Is your Conbee on a USB extension cable and away from interference sources such as USB 3.0 ports, SSDs, power supplies, 2.4GHz WiFi, mesh systems, etc.?

[tranquil arch]

Not on a usb extension cable, but it's been in the same location for over a year and the issue only started 2 days ago

[austere patio]

Move it onto a USB extension cable. There haven't been any changes to any code communicating with the Conbee is many months.

[tranquil arch]

I've tried to migrate the radio to a sonoff dongle but getting nothing but unknown errors.

I've started getting this error as well
Logger: homeassistant.components.zha.core.cluster_handlers
Source: components/zha/core/cluster_handlers/init.py:537
Integration: Zigbee Home Automation (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 8:18:02 PM (55 occurrences)

[austere patio]

Can you enable debug logging for the ZHA integration (same page you downloaded diagnostics) and post the errors?

[tranquil arch]

Sure
https://we.tl/t-Snxu3khIMd

[austere patio]

MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE in the log means the stick is refusing to transmit because of interference, so you really need the USB extension cable and to move it away from interference sources

Regarding the migration failure, however: could you upload a log for that too? There shouldn't be any issues with migration, especially from/to that stick

[tranquil arch]

Ok, I will try and move it away from everything now

[tranquil arch]

I'll see what I can do

[tranquil lily]

Greetings, I have a CLA60 RGBW OSRAM Bulb (ZHA) and want to set the level to a specific value with an automation. Via the zigbee-device management I can set the level but I wonder how I set it in my Automation. Its in the Cluster LevelControl the operation move_to_level (). How do I translate this to yaml? 😉 Thanks for any hint to documentation or snippets 🙂

[mellow geode]

So the light.turn_on service doesn't work for your use-case?

[tranquil arch]

https://uploadnow.io/f/Dv5jbtY
Error I get when trying to mitigate the signal

[austere patio]

zigpy.exceptions.FormationFailure: Network formation refused: there is likely too much RF interference. Make sure your coordinator is on a USB 2.0 extension cable and away from any sources of interference, like USB 3.0 ports, SSDs, 2.4GHz routers, motherboards, etc.

[tranquil arch]

Yeh, I've just ordered an extension. Will be here tomorrow so hopefully that will help. I just can't understand why it would be working so well for such a long time and then decide it won't work anymore 😑 forgot how annoying turning lights on and off was 🤣
Thanks for taking the time to help. Fingers crossed for tomorrow

[austere patio]

If you're anywhere with WiFi, it's very possible a new neighbor got a mesh system or your own router/mesh system decided to shuffle channels around

But get the USB cable for sure, especially with a Conbee. It working without one is unusual to begin with and likely introduced just enough noise to make anything extra break it.

[tranquil arch]

I've purchased the sonoff dongle P as I thought my conbee had broke. So if the extension fixes the issues I will be moving dongle either way

[tranquil lily]

So the light.turn_on service doesn't

[candid oriole]

i've got zigbee2mqtt working with a hues dimmer remote. one of these. https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/324131092621.html

i can subscribe to events and see the state change and watch teh counter hit 2 and 3 when i double tap and triple tap. but i can't seem to figure out how to create a trigger for that in an automation. any help?

and once i do figure out a trigger. it seems like it's always triggering the single tap when i double tap. how do i get around that?

[desert bloom]

Hi, I have a Conbee 2 currently set up with the Zigbee Home Automation integration. From reading here I believe that I may be better off using the deCONZ integration. Do any of you gurus have tips for the transfer? I assume I should delete the first before adding the second - anything else?

[astral seal]

Before you do anything, take a backup

[austere patio]

Why do you think deCONZ would be better for you?

[desert bloom]

It was an impression I got from a previous discussion on here. I’d rather not go through the process if it’s not necessary. The main reason I’m looking for answers is that my devices are about 80 feet away from the Conbee through several walls

[glass badger]

Hi, I recently connected a bunch of IKEA Tradfri GU10 bulbs to HAOS through Z2MQTT. I noticed that it seems to discover the bulbs as "sensors", rather than "lights". As a result, I'm unable to setup automations and stuff which require interacting with the bulbs as a "light" device (eg. Brightness, color temp, etc).

Anyone has any idea/ suggestions please?

Update: Just needed to update HA version as the older version resulted in Z2M having some issues.

[warm saddle]

Hello guyz, is there a device or an app for testing zigbee signal strength

[vale remnant]

Hi there,
Just wondering if anyone knows whether the Home Assistant SkyConnect dongle works with container installations yet? based on the website its implied it does not

"We will be looking into making this available for Home Assistant Supervised and Home Assistant Container installations afterwards."

[sour shadow]

Sure it does, even works with things other than HA

Now... the multi-protocol stuff... that's different, and should be avoided anyway

[vale remnant]

Ahh good to know, thank you for confirming 🙂

[sick osprey]

I've set up Hama Thermostats with z2m and in HA there's an "automatic mode" available for these thermostats. Is there a way to change these values for the automatic mode in HA or z2m or do i need their software or is that "hardcoded" into the thermostats?

[austere patio]

There's no difference between integrations when it comes to range, that's all determined by your devices alone

[mighty river]

Hi. I'm new to Home Assistant, and I'm trying to integrate a Danfoss/Popp thermostat valve into my setup. I discovered I need to merge in this PR in zigpy/zha-device-handlers to get proper support: https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/2150.

[buoyant spade]

When binding devices with ZHA, especially groups, should we choose all options? etc lightlevel, onoff, scene etc, or only "onoff" and "lightlevel" ?

[dire hedge]

I'm confused what the identify button is supposed to do

Mine errors, all devices

[limpid oriole]

Hi, i try undestand the xiaomi djt11lm axis, but i don't know how works, i try know when a canopy its open or close. I attached the sensor to structure of canopy and i can read the values, any tips?

[violet dagger]

it helps you identify the device, usually by flashing its LED @dire hedge

[limpid oriole]

when the device is with battery down:

args:
    rawValueX: 43
    rawValueY: 9
    rawValueZ: 1322
    X: 2
    "Y": 0
    Z: 88

and when the device is with battery up:

args:
    rawValueX: 62
    rawValueY: 16
    rawValueZ: 64862
    X: 0
    "Y": 0
    Z: 90

i don't understand how it's work.

Edit: i use the raw values this i think its more precise

[peak trout]

My garage has a 3gang switch (flood, coach and internal lights) but they're all 3way with another 3gang switch set for same lights inside the house. 1) what reco's do you have and 2) do I need 2x sets of swtiches or does one cover me?

https://www.amazon.com/GE-Enbrighten-SimpleWire-STANDALONE-47333/dp/B07WWHJQPW/ref=sr_1_24?crid=3EE3VV07K1IFO&keywords=zigbee+switch&qid=1697828965&sprefix=zigbee%2Caps%2C243&sr=8-24

would this work for me or not?

[desert bloom]

Ok. Thanks very much for your help 😁

[limpid oriole]

i don't understand the US installations but i think it's works, see this manual https://enbrightenme.com/mwdownloads/download/link/id/3533

[peak trout]

TY

[limpid oriole]

I found the problem and i fix it https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/2670. 😋

[snow roost]

I flashed my dongle-e from 7.3.1.0 to 7.3.2.0 with no loss of devices some of them got flaky afterwards so i just repaired all of them, can confirm these instructions still work (just had to jiggle my light bulb to get it to rejoin)

zigpy radio --baudrate 115200 ezsp /dev/ttyACM0 backup zigbee-backup.json
universal-silabs-flasher --verbose --device /dev/ttyACM0 flash --firmware ncp-uart-hw-v7.3.2.0-zbdonglee-115200.gbl
zigpy radio --baudrate 115200 ezsp /dev/ttyACM0 restore zigbee-backup.json

got those instructions here: https://github.com/darkxst/silabs-firmware-builder/issues/14#issuecomment-1676851313

[drifting flare]

Is it possible to (or how can I) extend a zigbee network over a distance so that lights in both areas can be part of the same zigbee group and bound to the same motion sensor? I have ethernet cable with poe between the two areas.

[delicate beacon]

what is the preferable way nowadays to use a sonoff zigbee dongle in terms of integration? is it zigbee2mqtt? something else?

zha?

[violet dagger]

depends on the dongle, the E version works better with ZHA since its still not marked as stable under zigbee2mqtt

[delicate beacon]

"SONOFF ZB Dongle-P Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus Wireless Zigbee Gateway Analyzer Zigbee2MQTT USB Interface Capture with Antenna"

[violet dagger]

that one works with both

[delicate beacon]

from my understanding zigbee2mqtt is more flexible long run?!

[violet dagger]

define flexible

[delicate beacon]

no clue. just read some comments.

i cant find an accurate comparison between the 2

[violet dagger]

what are you comparing

[delicate beacon]

z2m and zha

trying to understand on which system i should build

[violet dagger]

its like saying you cant find a vehicle comparison

[delicate beacon]

i am a developer, i am not scared of code (by the way)

[violet dagger]

you need to know what your comparing for

[delicate beacon]

i understand that but if i dont know either, i dont really know what to compare for

i dont understand where they differ

[violet dagger]

one requires mqtt the other doesn't

[delicate beacon]

i think i will go with z2m. i am used to mqtt from my job and it seems it could be more flexible for my understanding / custom usage

[violet dagger]

i mean, you can try both and see, they're all free

[drifting flare]

I use Z2M, very happy with it. I started with ZHA about 18 months ago, but went with Z2M because at the time I was curious about how zigbee networks hang together, and the Z2M UI exposes more of the Zigbee API

(I love the Z2M network map, does ZHA have that yet?)

[violet dagger]

yes, its in the integration

[drifting flare]

Also ZHA was causing me frustration with some IKEA device that (at that time) seemed better behaved in the Z2M network. That's likely a non issue now too.

With Z2M your zigbee devices appear in Home Assistant via the MQTT integration; with ZHA they are presented through the ZHA integration, and I think generally the ZHA UI aims to abstract away the zigbee details that Z2M exposes

The Z2M web UI runs along-side the HA UI, easiest to access if you tick option to add it to the HA main menu

[desert owl]

Hello! I am currently setting my Sonoff ZBDongle-E with Silicon Labs Multiprotocol (RCP Multi-PAN Firmware) and Zigbee2MQTT. Everything seems to be working, but I have some questions:

• LQI is always 255, even if devices are far from the Dongle, is that normal?
• I am not sure if I can change the ZigBee channel and Transmit power from Zigbee2MQTT, does this works or is this something I need to do in the Multiprotocol Add-on? I want to use channel 25 and set the transmit power to 20.

Thanks!

[keen merlin]

Is 6.10.3.0 build 297 still the preferred firmware version for the Yellow Zigbee?

[keen merlin]

I think the coordinators may always report an LQI of 255.
I'm using a Yellow and changed my channel to 25 and all the other nodes followed without any problems. YMMV.
I'm using ZHA

[violet dagger]

LQI is a scam anyway

[keen merlin]

It's a mystery for sure and apparently there is no standard method for determining it

[violet dagger]

as long as manufacturers can implement their own way of "calculating" it it'll be a scam

[keen merlin]

In given setup, does each device determine LQI or does the coordinator?

[violet dagger]

"LQI, or Link Quality Index is a value used to compute Link Cost for Zigbee and other stacks. Link Cost can be used for creating network routes, selecting network parents, determining neighbors and managing routing tables. In both the Zigbee and IEEE 802.15.4 standards, LQI is required, but unlike RSSI (Receive Signal Strength Indication -- a standardized value), it is left to the manufacturer to determine how to implement LQI. On-chip radios differ significantly, so the mechanisms to evaluate LQI must be specific to the radio."

[snow roost]

yes you can change txpower and channel in z2m

[lean stone]

I am looking for some guidance, I rebuilt my Rpi4 going from 32-bit Bullseye to 64-bit Bookworm. I have everything back and running except the Zigbee side of my Nortek HUSBZB-1. I wondered whether the zigbee.db file might have had issues going from 32-bit to 64-bit, but the other Homeassistant db files seems to function just fine. Any useful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[sour shadow]

No, there's no issue with any file in your config folder when you go between platforms like that

[agile yew]

Is there any way at all to play a custom animation with quickly changing color and brightness on my zigbee-controlled lights?
with precision at least to 100ms

[desert owl]

Where do you change the channel?

[keen merlin]

Integrations>ZHA>Configure

[solar dawn]

Is there a way to force connect an Aqara Zigbee motion sensor with a Philips Hue that's connected to the Z2M - Home assistant? I'm not sure if I'm asking it properly - apologies - im completely new to to Z2M

[stable monolith]

I installed a Zigbee smart switch from Moes today - already have several in the house - but ZHA can't find it, just searches forever. It's about 10 feet from a Zigbee light bulb. Tried flipping S1 until it beeps, still no luck. Left it outside the junction box, still no luck.HA 2023.10.1. Ideas?

[sour shadow]

Use the option to pair it via the Hue device

(look closely at the pairing button in the Z2M UI)

[astral seal]

Have you tried pairing it directly via the bulb with the "add devices via this device" option?

[stable monolith]

Yes, no luck there either. I bought 2 switches, in the daylight I'll replace the one with the other.

[astral seal]

Yeah you could have just ended up with a bad one I guess

[austere patio]

What issue are you having?

[wide laurel]

So I was informed tonight that one of my zigbee bulbs in a living room lamp has started making a high pitched buzzing sound. Any idea on why?

[lean stone]

The initialization of the coordinator times out. I was thinking it was a permission issue at first but then I noticed that a new release of of HA 2023.10.4 snuck out overnight which includes some ZHA updates. When I go back to 2023.10.3 everything works as expected.

[snow roost]

coil whine, run it max brightness and let it warm up

[wide laurel]

@snow roost thank you

[spring cloud]

I installed zigbee2mqtt on a raspberry-pi 2b running ubuntu 22.04. I have two IKEA Vindstrykers paired via a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus. The IKEA sensors have the latest firmware. I have mosquito MQTT broker configured on my Home Assistant OS. I also have MQTT Explorer add-on installed. It is receiving device sensor payloads from both devices like:
{"humidity":44,"linkquality":188,"pm25":2,"temperature":27,"update":{"installed_version":16777233,"latest_version":16777233,"state":"idle"},"voc_index":198}
but the devices found by the MQTT broker are all marked as unknown. I believe they are all logged in as the same Home Assistant mqtt-user.
I have run out of ideas to fix this - These are the first devices I have tried to connect to my first installation. Thanks...

I meant the sensors within the devices are marked as unknown

[spring cloud]

The Sonoff dongle also has the latest firmware I believe

[dreamy delta]

did 2023.10.4 broke ZHA?
I updated and my ZHA stop working
I downgraded to 2023.10.3 and its working again

[spring cloud]

@dreamy delta
Not sure if you'ree replying to me. I am using Mosquitto not ZHA. Not familiar with Discord...

[dreamy delta]

No, just a general PSA for anyone use ZHA dont update to 2023.10.4 yet
Cheers

[scarlet vigil]

Can anyone in the UK recommend a cheap ZigBee power socket that's not going to burn down my house?

[dreamy delta]

sent you a DM

[ashen bluff]

Why not post it here?

[dreamy delta]

Sure

https://uk.banggood.com/BlitzWolf-BW-SHP15-Zigbee-3_0-16A-3680W-Smart-Plug-Wireless-Power-Socket-Outlet-EU-Plug-APP-Remote-Control-or-Voice-Control-or-Multiple-Timer-Modes-Compatible-With-Amazon-Alexa-or-Google-Assistant-p-1856492.html?cur_warehouse=CN&ID=557527

[primal echo]

I am trying to debug my Ikea tradfri lights that I connect to with Zigbee2MQTT through Mosquitto
They show up in Home Assistant, and I can control them.
One time the change in color&dimming was instant, but after that it has just been incredibly slow, taking between 1-5 minutes to change, if it even does. Most of the time it just resets back to the original setting when i press anything.
I got no idea how to really start debugging what is wrong, any ideas?

[crystal stratus]

Does lutron use zigbee? I want to give their pico remote a try just don’t want to buy whatever hub they want me to buy

[sour shadow]

Can anyone in the UK recommend a cheap

[mighty river]

What is better zha or z2m

[sour shadow]

Yes

Neither are "best", they're just different with different advantages and disadvantages

[mighty river]

no

[crisp grove]

Hi guys, I have a 4 gang switch for outside lights. I am wondering if there is anything like the sonoff zbminiL for a 4 gang switch? I’m trying to avoid 1 module for each switch

[stable monolith]

Yes no luck there either I bought 2

[tough trout]

I am running zha and my new inovelli fan switches have an issue with the quirk. I am trying to fix it, but I am having an issue getting the zha config to use the new quirk.

database_path: /config/zigbee.db
enable_quirks: true
custom_quirks_path: /config/zhaquirks/inovelli

for some reason the new quirk is not loading.

[harsh mango]

is it more ideal for me to add zigbee devices directly to the main controller, or through other mains powered zigbee devices? i.e. a cluster of 4 bulbs.. i could add one bulb to the main controller, and add the other 3 through the bulb. idk if this would help with potential signal congestion in my home?

[lean stone]

2023.10.5 rolled back the ZHA bellows change. I can confirm that fixed the issue on my HUSBZB-1.

[lean stone]

I would expect this entry to work for you assuming that inovelli is a directory containing your quirks

zha:
custom_quirks_path: /config/zhaquirks/inovelli/

[lean stone]

It is not necessarily about signal congestion, it is more about quality and strength of signal. I always pair my devices to the nearest mains powered device that is closer to the coordinator than my device and let the mesh sort itself out from there.

[harsh mango]

what do you mean, "let the mesh sort itself out from there"?

[dreamy delta]

thanks for info, I updated to 2023.10.5 and ZHA is working for me as well
I'm using the SONOFF Bridge Pro with Tasmota firmware

[gaunt hull]

I've never selected where/how a zigbee device joins. I allow Join All when adding a device

[harsh mango]

sorry idk what that means

I cannot remember how I added devices actually

[gaunt hull]

Which Zigbee addon are you using? Zigbee2MQTT or something else?

[harsh mango]

addon?

I have my USB coordinator plugged into the proxmox server, usb passthrough to the VM

hang on lemme see if I can remember

devices shows it: SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2

everything is just connected through that.

[gaunt hull]

in Home Assistant, Settings -> Addons, what Zigbee addon do you see listed?

[harsh mango]

none

literally my only addon is visual studio code

[harsh mango]

am I supposed to have an addon for some reason?