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pastel notch
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yea I get that a little bit, just got tripped up assuming the guide was right. Not sure what about my setup made it wrong. I also dont know where teh hell the config s

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the config in the config folder is nto being honored. The changes I made there didn't affect anything. i had to use the UI of the addon to configure it.

ashen bluff
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You can check what directories a addon/container mounts like this: <#add-ons-archived message>
You can get the name of the container via docker ps

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In this case you can also look here: https://github.com/zigbee2mqtt/hassio-zigbee2mqtt/blob/7e62cbe421da08de49f5aa4b90f9cd6fad1c7b96/zigbee2mqtt/config.json#L24-L27
And see that the default is in /config/zigbee2mqtt: https://github.com/zigbee2mqtt/hassio-zigbee2mqtt/blob/7e62cbe421da08de49f5aa4b90f9cd6fad1c7b96/zigbee2mqtt/config.json#L37C19-L37C38
And then come here: https://github.com/zigbee2mqtt/hassio-zigbee2mqtt/blob/7e62cbe421da08de49f5aa4b90f9cd6fad1c7b96/common/rootfs/docker-entrypoint.sh#L49-L53
So in conclusion the path is in data_path/configuration.yaml which is most likely /config/zigbee2mqtt/configuration.yaml
Hope that helps 😄

pastel notch
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yea i was trying to figrue out the data path because thats the yaml I am looking at, and it wasn't right

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my configuration.yaml has a few entries in teh mqtt section, but in the addon config section it was empty. when I changed the /config/zigbee2mqtt/configuration.yaml and saved it and restarted z2m, the changes weren't there

ashen bluff
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I'm not sure what takes preference or how settings are merged between the GUI and configuration.yaml.
Everything's a big rabbit hole as I demonstrated above.

pastel notch
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for other addons I thought the config in the UI was just teh normal yaml but it seems to be doing something wonky. Maybe it hides some stuff or the config is some sort of upper level override. Ah well, it works so I'm going to just be happy with that

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now to start shopping for more zigbee gadgets 🙂

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oooh soil sensor lol. I wonder if zigbee will reach far enough to my garden plot

fleet basin
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For the past three years, I've been utilizing a Phoscon ConBee II to manage my Zigbee devices. However, recently I've observed inconsistencies in my automations. When attempting to switch groups of lights on or off, some lights don't respond synchronously with the rest. Has anyone else experienced this? Could it be a sign that the ConBee radio is deteriorating? Appreciate any insights!

grim igloo
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i'd personally suggest moving to a different coordinator and using zha or z2m (i like z2m) but apparently conbee sticks can work okay on zha if there's no interference

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also i assume you are already using zigbee groups to control multiple devices to "sync" up properly - zigbee groups will send a multicast (three i think?) across the mesh to turn the group on/off/whatever all at once instead of unicast per device using something like home assistant groups or manually choosing multiple devices/entities in an automation action / script

sacred narwhal
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P, I have sensors falling off the network daily, yes it is on an extension to get it away from other radios and I have multiple routers in each room of my house

soft mirage
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Anyone know why ZHA since an unknown while ago "Self activate" debug logging?
I switch off, but after next reboot it is active again

raven jewel
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Did you change your configuration.yaml to enable debug logging at some point?

rapid dawnBOT
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@soft mirage I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
austere patio
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That config very much enables ZHA debug logging :). I would delete the entire thing.

soft mirage
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Delete even

logger:
default: info

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?

grim igloo
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sure

soft mirage
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Thank you!😍
No biggie but still annoying to have the warning icon on ZHA integration.

Have absolutly no idea how it started. Seems extremly unlikley that I wrote thoose lines.

elfin dagger
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Hey all, im on and off about a week trying to get my kwikset 914 to work with my z2m. The lock is a supported lock so not sure why it wont work. I'm able to pair them but thats about it. It was working when I using the sonoff E adapter (currently on P). Any help would be appreciated!

carmine hamlet
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you haven't said what isn't working

elfin dagger
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Oops! I',m getting the "...hardware is not supported"

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when trying to pair.

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hang on, I'll get the exact error

carmine hamlet
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you said you're able to pair them

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I have 3 of those and haven't had issues pairing or using them, but it's been a few months since I paired them

elfin dagger
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When I first used the sonoff ZBdongle-E adapter, it was working fine but had issues with z2m crashing. So I switched to ZBdongle-P

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even uninstalled mqtt, z2m, etc and tried again and can't get it to work

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it almost seems like the TS/converter files are missing

bold plume
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I need some help with a Zigbee Curtain/blinds switch

""TS130F by _TZ3000_dbpmpco1"" [Loratap curtain switch]

"Quirk: zhaquirks.tuya.ts130f.TuyaTS130ESTC"

The Issue I have is that when I close the curtains, the curtains themselves are FULLY closed, but the switch does not detect that they are closed, Pressing the stop button, the Curtains slider show up as 50-70% closed.

What Can I do to resolve this? so 0%= FULLY closed and 100% is FULLY open.

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When checking the logs I also get the following error for zigbee: ""Zigbee channel 20 utilization is 98.93%!""

How do I resolve this? [Currently running on the default firmware]

sour shadow
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You resolve that by moving to a channel with less utilisation ... which requires re-pairing everything

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Using a USB extension cable, if you aren't already, will probably help a lot

bold plume
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From what I know I am the only smarthome user in my area. I have about 45 devices [of which 6 are routers]

Would using a custom firmware be a better solution. since from what I could find, the default firmware only supports about 40 devices. and custom ones can support up to 100

sour shadow
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You know that Zigbee uses the same frequencies as WiFi and Bluetooth?

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And ... that 40 "limit" isn't what you think

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That's the limit of directly connected devices - with (Zigbee) router devices you can extend that by many hundreds

bold plume
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AAH OK. will check then if the error re-appears with more routers

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Would you also happen to know the solution for the issue with the Curtain/Blinds switch I have?'

sour shadow
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No idea, don't use those or ZHA

sour shadow
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Eg, WiFi, Bluetooth, USB interference, etc

bold plume
bold plume
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after checking under "Manage Zigbee device" I did find a parameter for "Physical_closed_limit_lift"

Which seems to be related to the closed state atribute.

sour shadow
robust forum
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I'm having a weird bug that started happening last night. Sonoff motion sensor under zigbee2mqtt became unavailable, but after turning on the logging in Mosquito MQTT broker, I can see in the logs that the specific motion sensor (Motion-Master-Closet) actually sent a MQTT message and status, yet the sensors show as Unavailable.

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Tried restarting Home Assistant and that didn't change anything.

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I'm lost as to the next steps to debug or get this thing working.

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Everything was working for a few weeks perfectly fine until yesterday.

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I'm doing a tail -f home_assistant.log and I'm seeing mqtt messages coming thru.

sour shadow
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Version of Z2M?

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Have you tried restarting Z2M?

robust forum
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I'm running Z2M on a separate raspberry PI, HA is running on a VM. I would have restarted, but the home assistant logfiles are showing the messages coming into HA.

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Version of Z2M was a new install from docker (installed a week ago).

sour shadow
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That's not a number

robust forum
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Sorry, but I'm looking it up.

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Version 1.33.0

sour shadow
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There's also been similar reports from others, solved by restarting one of Z2M or HA, can't remember which

robust forum
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Restarted HA, didn't change anything. Didn't consider restarting Z2M because the HA logs were showing the messages coming in.

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Trying a restart of Z2M now.

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Ok, that worked, but why did it work when I was still getting MQTT messages??? (or, a better question, how do I make sure it doesn't stop working again - wife angry when things don't work!)

sour shadow
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My theory is that when the messages from Z2M aren't retained that some recent change in HA is causing it to miss something important

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On 2023.8 and Z2M 1.32 that's not something I've seen, but there's been a few reports for 2023.9 and 1.33

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However, my setup also has all of Z2M's messages retained

frigid mica
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I haven't noticed any of that, not sure if I set my topics to retain either.

robust forum
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Ok, I will watch it for the next little bit and see if I can spot anything, cause it is weird that the MQTT messages are still coming through but the sensor is saying it's unavailable.

frigid mica
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i set up z2m about a year ago and it's just worked for me ever since

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not set to retain

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still working fine over here

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9 bulbs and one cheap button thing

robust forum
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The only thing that might be different in my setup is that I'm running 2 Z2M on two Rpis (two different base topics on the same MQTT).

smoky tapir
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In ZHA, is there a way to see temperature updates from a sensor in the logbook or similar? Curious about update rates.

smoky tapir
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I guess I can see "last seen" in the device info, but was curious how often it was updating

tiny nacelle
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Hey y'all, quick question regarding adding zigbee devices to my network: In ZHA, should I always just attempt to add all new devices via the coordinator, or via what I think is the closest router device? (i.e. a light switch)

Does it matter at all?

tropic depot
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Last seen is updated every time the device communicates so I wouldn’t go by that

tropic depot
smoky tapir
tropic depot
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Is it accessible?

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Just huff hot air at it 🙂

smoky tapir
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haha, yeah, I did that earlier, then moved it to outside where it's harder to get to

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the visualization of the zigbee mesh is a mess, so wasn't sure it was working

rapid dawnBOT
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@finite jay I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
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@finite jay I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
finite jay
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ok I think it's solved. I had ZHA installed also and I think that creates a conflit. After disabling nothing worked, I had to restart HA again.. anyways, it's working

robust forum
tranquil flume
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Has anyone gotten a SLZB-06 adapter to work with Z2M? I keep getting ' Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms' in the log. I'm powering the adapter by POE and i have "port: tcp://192.168.1.206:6638" in the serial section of the configuration. I have the proper firmware (CC1352P2_CC2652P_other_coordinator_20230507.zip) flashed from the Z2M supported adapters page, and the ESP firmware is at v0.9.9. I have confirmed that ZHA is not installed. There was a discovered ZHA device which I told HA to ignore. Not sure what the issue is as I think I've covered all the bases on the support pages. This is my first zigbee coordinator.

tranquil flume
sick osprey
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i just can't seem to get zigbee2mqtt running, i'm using the docker container and get that error:

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zigbee2mqtt | Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-09-16 16:48:10: Coordinator firmware version: 'undefined' zigbee2mqtt | Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-09-16 16:48:30: Failed to start zigbee zigbee2mqtt | Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-09-16 16:48:30: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions zigbee2mqtt | Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-09-16 16:48:30: Exiting... zigbee2mqtt | Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-09-16 16:48:30: Error: get network parameters Error:TIMEOUT zigbee2mqtt | at DeconzAdapter.getNetworkParameters (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/deconz/adapter/deconzAdapter.ts:1002:35) zigbee2mqtt | at runNextTicks (node:internal/process/task_queues:60:5) zigbee2mqtt | at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:538:9) zigbee2mqtt | at processTimers (node:internal/timers:512:7) zigbee2mqtt | at Controller.getNetworkParameters (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:360:44) zigbee2mqtt | at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:113:62) zigbee2mqtt | at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:101:27) zigbee2mqtt | at start (/app/index.js:107:5)

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sorry, took me some time mindblown

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no answer for that (to my knowledge) on the troubleshooting link

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i'm using a Conbee2 on a S12 Mini PC

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sometimes "Coordinator firmware version" gives me a value, sometimes it's undefined

ashen bluff
sick osprey
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sorry!

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no, it's directly connected to the backside of the device

ashen bluff
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There's likely USB 3 ports near which give off interference. See here for a demonstration: https://youtu.be/tHqZhNcFEvA
I'm not sure if this would cause this particular issue (not familiar with the deconz driver) but since this should be done any way it's worth a try to see if anything changes

sick osprey
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yeah found that post too, but changing the adapter is not an option tbh

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kk, i'll try, 1 sec

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is it also a bad thing to put the conbee in an USB3 port?

ashen bluff
sick osprey
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yeah, just checked, that's the case

sick osprey
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ty!

lavish ridge
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Is there a way to refresh the Skyconnect zigbee network?

sick osprey
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weird, now it's not working again, same error, extension usb cable is still connected

grim igloo
lavish ridge
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I have some sensors that aren't showing up after a system migrate. I use the word refresh loosely. Like reboot the zigbee network. Trying not to repair the sensor. But I may have too. @grim igloo

grim igloo
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i think depending on the device they wont wake up til they're used

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really not sure tho

lavish ridge
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Makes sense. I will give it a few and see what happens. Thanks

glass sequoia
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Hi. Strange problem in installing/migrating from ZHA/RaspbeeII to Skyconnect. Followed the guideline precisely, except Step 11 (Overwrite radio IRRR address) simply never appeared. I selected the Skyconnect at a USB port, and restored the auto-generated backup, but hitting submit simply ended the process- no prompt to overwrite the Skyconnect IEEE. Hard to understand how this can happen, given the IEEEs are reported as different, ZHA was stable, the migration process saw the USB-connected device, and the backup was restored... So now it is in limbo- where the RaspbeeII is still shown as the coordinator, just as offline since it isnt physically connected (RPI4). Running HA 2023.9.2, RPI4. Just seems impossible the code cannot determine that the IEEE values are different, but there is no failure on an attempted migration- there is no IEEE migration prompt- never was. No originally, not after a reboot, not after a power disconnect reboot. Any ideas? This just a QA failure?

mellow geode
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What's the SkyConnect firmware version? (Did you update it yourself?)

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Also, are all Zigbee devices working as expected? Is the coordinator only shown as offline in the topology map? If so, that's expected and you should be able to remove the old coordinator as a (ZHA) device from HA.

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Depending on the SkyConnect firmware version, the IEEE can be set as many times as you want. That's why it doesn't show the prompt.

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@glass sequoia ^

glass sequoia
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Hi. Sorry, Im not seeing the firmware variant in the Device Info list. The firmware subsection of the Skyconnect site says all new devices are shipping with the most current firmware, and this was shipped 3 days ago. Maybe I should reupload in case?

The zigbee devices are not working. Many show as 'connected' within the ZIgbee coordinator for the Skyconnect subinfo page, but all sensors read as 'unavailable.' None show as connected in the Visualization map. RaspbeeII shows as the coordinator, with an Offline state. Skyconnect shows as Coordinator, with no device state listed. It does show as a different IEEE however. Any idea how I set IEEE if this isnt available for edit under the Network Settings section? Seems I can update the Channel, but not IEEE. I can get to the Manage Zigbee Device dialog for it, but this doesnt seem to do anything. Example, I can select an attribute like Manufacturer (0x0004), and Read Attribute just shows and Orange blob with an exclamation point in it. Diagnostics doesnt seem to show firmware variant- just amfg code of 43981

glass sequoia
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So, seems they werent all that correct about the firmware as current and not needing update. The installed variant was 7.1.1.0 and the current is 7.2.2.0. Updated, reran the migration, and this time it asked if I wanted to have the Skyconnect inherit the legacy IEEE. So, yea, frustrating is an understatement. They need to do a much better job of documentation. How hard would it be to have a provision that just says to check the firmware vs 'we are so sure that the shipped firmware has no bugs, that no update is needed' along with the install/migration procedure, where their error makes following the procedure impossible? Anyway, I deleted the legacy RaspbeeII device, but I dont see connections yet from the devices. So, Ill do a reboot and give it an hour.

mellow geode
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The migration dialogs in HA mentioned that you have to be on a minimum Conbee/Raspbee version. Did you upgrade your old coordinator to that version before the migration? Otherwise, the migration won't work correctly. You'll have to power-cycle all mains-powered devices then.
Also, the version the SkyConnect ships with is fine and no update is needed.

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I dont see connections yet from the devices
The topology/visualization isn't live. Do not look at it to determine if "your network is healthy".
So, I'm assuming no devices are responding? If you have mains-powered devices, try power-cycling them and see if they show up as online.

surreal nacelle
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Hi! My zigbee2mqtt devices are "hidden by integration" - therfor i cannot adress the devices in ZHA areas. Anybody has an idea how to change the visibility in z2m?

sudden yarrow
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Have those entities been used with a helper?

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If so and the option to hide the used entities has been chosen, it sometimes sticks when removing the helper

grizzled steeple
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Hello people! Do you know of any plug that works as a router?

sour shadow
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That's all of them

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Only two-wire switches, Sengled bulbs, and a handful of other devices (like the Aqara FP1) don't

rough fulcrum
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Hey folks I have a 2ch weten (Tuya?) zigbee no neutral switch (for mounting in housing). Using ZHA it appears binding is only available as “in” (not out) in the clusters pane. And in the binding panel it doesn’t show any devices except the coordinator. Is this fixable/changeable at all?

rough fulcrum
rough fulcrum
deft burrow
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Hey, using zha + sonoff, I'm trying to listen to an event of a single button press with device _TZ3000_kjfzuycl / TS004F (it's not really that device though, it's more like ERS-10TZBVB-AA). If I click it, it sends 'on', if I double click it, it sends 'off'. But once it's considered "on", and I single click it again - it sends events with some random values: "Move To Level" and "Move To Hue". I want to listen to these events (they're not registered as regular HASS events, matter of fact nothing was until the recent August update) and act upon them, how can I do that? Or at-least debug the exact event that is being emitted?\

rough fulcrum
lost crane
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Hi, I am using an Ikea Light Switch with the Homassistant SkyConnect. When I press the on button a random Light turns on and not the one I assigned it in the Automation. It worked 1 week ago where I added the switch to my network. Any ideas whats going wrong?

hybrid cloud
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i've been getting the following log errors a bunch, does anyone have any idea what's going on in these 2?
https://dpaste.org/aaPr8
https://dpaste.org/oE8js#L13
i'm not super good at understanding these kinds of logs, so if anyone can point me in the right direction so i hhave an idea of what to investigate for the issue, i would greatly appreciate that 😅

rough fulcrum
hybrid cloud
strong path
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I would like to integrate Deconz into HA. I am familiar with this page. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/deconz/ It also describes the procedure for connecting Deconz to HA via Phoscon. However, this way I create a new API key and delete an existing key. And that's exactly what I have to prevent, because I share the gateway hardware with another app and therefore already have an API key. How do I set up Deconz (possibly by directly editing internal configuration files) so that I can enter the host, port, user, serial number and API key manually?

pseudo forum
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Hi. I can't find much info on how zha does encryption and if it turns on encryption when it pairs with devices automatically. I found mixed and very old information on forums and discord. Anyone know how it works?

pseudo forum
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Google's Bard says it generates a random key and sets up encryption with each device when it pairs.

pseudo forum
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I found that the zigbee plugs I just got don't support encryption. I need some zigbee plugs that can do encryption. I'm in the US.

hot fable
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Hey guys, I want to get into zigbee but aren't hugely tech savvy - the sky connect is easy for me to get but I was wondering how good it is for simple door sensors like the aqara door sensors?

lilac wharf
lost crane
sour shadow
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Hey guys I want to get into zigbee but

pseudo forum
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Google Bard says it does support encryption, so...

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They are eWeLink devices

violet dagger
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battle of ai's

pseudo forum
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I ran across this ieee_extend_security setting that might not be available until 2023.10

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I'm not sure whether I should worry about encryption. I will have a smart lock on my zigbee network soon.

lilac wharf
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Someone can sniff the network key under the right conditions and decrypt the traffic, but they'd need to (1) know you have a zigbee network, (2) want to target you for some reason, and (3) be close enough to do it

pseudo forum
rough fulcrum
lost crane
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Ahhh I found it, thank you. I manged to bind the correct lights. I had to re-pair one Switch though.

woeful urchin
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Did you ever figure this out? I couldn't get it to work with the dimmer switch.

Also, I'm having really bad reliability issues with my two new Econic fixtures.

hybrid vale
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I'm having a bizarre problem with my Sengled E11-N1EA bulbs where if I set it to somewhere between ~4650 to ~4750 K temperature, it instead goes to like 7000 K. And it's not a gradual thing, if I use the temperature slider it will instantaneously go from like 4600 to 7000 with no transition. Anyone know what could be causing this?

frank robin
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we have another problem the sonoff snzb-02d keeps losing the connection to the zigbee gateway, the thermometer that came with it does not lose the connection even though it is further away.

sour shadow
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Did you pair it in place?

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Did you pair it to a specific router/the gateway, or just let it pick?

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Did you check that your Zigbee channel is clear of WiFi?

frank robin
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the devices are 2-10m away from the gateway

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we will check tomorrow again

sour shadow
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  • You have to pair in place
  • You have to use a USB extension cable for your Zigbee stick (coordinator)
  • You have to ensure your Zigbee channel is clear of WiFi
dim turtle
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@sour shadow what do you mean by clear of wifi ?

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Not the same freq?

sour shadow
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Look at the pinned image @dim turtle

dim turtle
sour shadow
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No, we made it up just to mess with you...

cosmic chasm
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Afternoon!

I'm using Z2MQTT, routes through my private Eclipse-Mosquitto broker, making it's way into HA through the MQTT integration.

I updated all 3 docker containers yesterday, and since then HA has been erroring on what I believe are the main feature discovery messages for my ZigBee devices. Example:

Error 'string value is None for dictionary value @ data['name']' when processing MQTT discovery message topic

The documentation for the MQTT integration indicate that a null name will have the entity marked as a main feature by this excerpt from the "Naming of MQTT Entities" section.

It’s allowed to set an MQTT entity’s name to None (use null in YAML) to mark it as the main feature of a device.

I'm not sure why HA is throwing an error for this none type name now (and, consequentially, not generating the main entities, leaving me with a power measurement sensor entity but no light entity for my light bulbs, etc). Any assistance in understanding/resolving this, or who I should talk to next in my quest for knowledge/the right channel for this question, would be greatly appreciated!

dim turtle
brave fiber
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good evening, probably somebody can help me out, i upgraded hass from 2021 to 2023 and now i'm missing tons of valuable info especially in my mqtt section (zigbee2mqtt) like the good old "attributes" on my entities, like battery_status, voltage, link quality etc. is there a possibilty to get this info in a different way?

brave fiber
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good morning, probably somebody can help me today out 😄

sour shadow
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What version of Z2M are you on?

thorny plover
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My HA instance is completely unresponsive and I'm not sure how to debug, any ideas? My only hints are that I just installed the thread/matter add-ons and now, when I restart my rpi manually, it's only responsive until it says "please wait for zha" (or similar), at which point it hangs and I can do nothing. I can ping the IP address of my server, but it's just an infinite spinner when loading in a browser in incognito. I waited a solid 5 minutes after restart, restarted again, and nothing is changing.

ashen bluff
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If you have the SSH addon and are able to connect to it you can run supervisor logs and core logs.
Otherwise connect a keyboard and monitor to the device and run it through that.

thorny plover
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I'd just restore from the last backup but I don't actually know how to do that with ha backups -- info requires a specific backup ID and I don't see a way to list them

ashen bluff
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Type ha addons and note the slug of the addon. Then run ha addons uninstall slugnamehere.
For backups it's similar. ha backups then ha backups restore slugnamehere

thorny plover
brave fiber
brave fiber
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its a pity that tons of useful attributes are lost now 😦

alpine cipher
pseudo forum
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I just put out a couple of aqara leak detectors. They paired easily. They seem to become unavailable (or at least one so far). I suspect it's going into a sleep state but zha is still polling for its status. Is that normal?

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It says "This entity is no longer being provided by the zha integration. If the entity is no longer in use, delete it in settings." in the device's battery history dialog.

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It's behind a refrigerator and I'm wondering if there's RF interference or something.

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or maybe the refrigerator is pressing the reset button.

lilac wharf
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battery-powered devices aren't polled. aqara stuff tends to stick to whatever parent it was paired to; they rarely reroute when a better path becomes available

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did you pair it in place?

warm saddle
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Hello, anyone using this sonoff zbmini extreme?

violet dagger
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Are you starting a club of zbmini extreme users or is there a question related to the device?

pseudo forum
# lilac wharf did you pair it in place?

within a few feet of where I placed it. It's in an awkward place. I'll try pairing it closer and I'll try a different sensor to see if it's the sensor or something environmental. Thanks!

sour shadow
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Try also pairing it to a nearby router

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Aqara devices will pair to the first thing they hear, even if the signal is terrible

warm saddle
violet dagger
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you have to wire the switch according to the wiring instructions and your installation

warm saddle
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Yes, there are two difference type of wiring. Done them all, and still doesnt work.

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I have 2 of zbmini switch, tried both as well and stiill the same

muted meteor
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I bought some smart switches that go in the light backbox from Vesternet and they came with several kWh of usage recorded (I question Vesternet about why when I bought new but got no answer); it it possible to reset it to zero? I've been looking through all of the attributes in HA but can't find anything that looks like it.

sour shadow
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That depends entirely on what they are

muted meteor
sour shadow
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Try factory reset?

muted meteor
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Done that a couple of times, unfortunately didn't reset the value

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Read that manual a couple of times too, there's some info about the clusters it supports but not much else. ☹️

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Is it possible the kWh value is read only?

sour shadow
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Possibly something that can't ever be reset

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However, it's probably Tuya, so if you can find the underlying Tuya model you may find more information

muted meteor
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Fair enough, little bit annoying when they came from the retailer with nearly 8kWh on them already; ordered 2 and they both have 7+ kWh each

subtle eagle
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ugh, the batteries are dead in all of my sonos temp sensors again. i should graph this to understand it but it seems like i'm replacing these coin cells every couple months. I'd love to have something that used a lithium 123 cell like the nest room sensors

austere patio
subtle eagle
austere patio
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So with ZHA as a remote serial coordinator? Or with the Tasmota ZigBee firmware?

subtle eagle
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I suspect that my integration is polling too frequently and burning up the cells but have not dug into it

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looking

austere patio
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The sensors usually are not polled. They are given an attribute reporting configuration and the sensor itself decides if/when to send data. ZHA's sensor configuration isn't aggressive.

subtle eagle
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tazmota sonoff zhabridge 12.2.0.2

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i've been reasonably happy with it. my HA is a VM so it's not trivial to have a USB zigbee radio

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I just hate prying apart the sonoff temp sensors to replace the batteries. i'm using command strips to hold them in place so it's just a pain. a lithium 123 cell would last a lot longer

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oh man...... i just realized that these snzb-02 units use a 3v cr2032 and the lithium CR123A is also 3v. sounds like i need to 3dprint a new case for these

austere patio
subtle eagle
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zigbee home automation

austere patio
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When you re-install a battery, click the Reconfigure button to push the attribute reporting configuration again. They shouldn't be running out this quickly.

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For comparison, Aqara sensors with the same battery can last for about two years.

subtle eagle
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wow

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on HA?

austere patio
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Yes. The Sonoff sensors are buggy and inaccurate

subtle eagle
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I loved using the accurite sensors going to a dvb radio on my pi but failing root filesystem sd cards made me throw my hands up on that

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it was also mqtt and the integration was very manual

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i miss the display

stable monolith
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I have a SkyConnect and a couple dozen Zigbee devices. If I buy an eero 6 router will it "steal" those devices? How do you deal with multiple controllers?

subtle eagle
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the xiomi was really cute but the encrypted data stream was really a pain

sour shadow
subtle eagle
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huh, the aqara temp sensors are only $47 for a 3 pack on amazon at the moment. that's not awful.

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i still like my idea of macgyver-ing a CR123A onto a sonoff SNZB

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thanks @austere patio for the aqara suggestion. they will be here today and i will give those a whirl

shy hornet
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i have a question about this ZigBee have GLEDOPTO ZigBee 3.0 DC 5V TV Backlight USB Led Strip total 4. but it sometning disconnect keep it. or block so i remove only two work. do know why any conflict ?

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thanks

jagged estuary
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I'm using IKEA Tradfri E1812 light bulbs. Most of them work fine... except one.

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Brightness works fine, but when trying to change the color... that error appears. Any ideas?

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Z2M btw

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Magically works now

astral seal
# warm saddle This is my first time doing this bro. Got my self a HA container installed, and ...

Ok so I have two of those and they work fine.
If you can switch the light in HA, you wired the load correctly.
If the physical switch doesn't work, either you goofed up the switch wiring (not likely), shorted it (the switch terminals are very sensitive to shorting), or the zbmini is set to the wrong switch mode, ie momentary vs toggle. There is a button on the zbmini, I think you click it 3 times or something to change the switch mode but double check the manual. Do that and see what happens.

violet dagger
warm saddle
remote sonnet
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Are there any good Zigbee fan controllers?

warm saddle
# astral seal Ok so I have two of those and they work fine. If you can switch the light in HA,...

Bro, thank you it works. After just 3 click on zbmini now both the switch and HA working accordingly.

However i was trying to do test automation. Just a simple turn on at a specific/fix time, but it doesnt turn on. (Even though HA log noted that automation have been deploy) Do you have any idea what can i do wrong?

I check with local time, both inside HA setting and the machine running it.

Do i needed to copy codes or script into yaml file or something?

remote sonnet
warm saddle
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@astral seal i got the automation to works, my trigger/actions thing done wrong 😂. Thank bro

astral seal
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Yeah I thought that might be it. One of mine worked fine out of the box, the second one I got came set to the wrong mode.

oblique mango
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how do i get started with zigbee?

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in theory i think i should buy a hub (usb or something) and then some wall sockets that act as repeaters.
is that correct? if yes which ones do i buy?

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if someone recommends me something specific please keep in mind that i dont want US sockets. i want european ones. with round holes and 220v compatibility.

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thanks

violet dagger
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you choose the coordinator ("hub") thats most compatible with the integration you want to use so you need to decide on that first

oblique mango
# violet dagger you choose the coordinator ("hub") thats most compatible with the integration yo...

i am literally just getting started. i have a server running home assistant vm for a couple of android tvs, few smart lights and smark speakers.

i have no other integrations and certainly nothing zigbee related whatsoever. i'm new to this and all i know is that i need some water leak sensors in my house.

did some light asking around and found out that i need to create a kind of mesh network with a hub and light switches or sockets that act as repeaters.

so i thought that was a good place to start at. am i wrong?

violet dagger
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the good place to start at is choosing the integration you want to use

oblique mango
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can you rephrase that so that i can understand it better? i dont know what you mean by choosing integration first. do i go out buying the sensors that i want and then find hub and repeaters?

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are there no brands/hubs that are generally regarded as good ones? recommended to buy?

violet dagger
#

recommended way to use Zigbee in HA is through third party usb sticks

rapid dawnBOT
#

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

glacial quiver
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Lads, Im a bit lost as a newbie in Zigbee.
I bought a sonoff dongle-p, inserted it in the RPI4, installed Mosquito, zigbee2mqtt, added required port (sonoff ID) and put philips hue led strips in pairing mode.
When pressing find new devices, nothing happens. I can however see that in the mosquito broker two clients have connected.

Why is it that these devices are not showing up in zigbee2mqtt?

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Im currently not using an usb extension cable, also using stock software.
If changing these two helps, I have no issues doing so. Also I'm not 100% bound to using Z2MQTT if Z2M is more reliable

violet dagger
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get an extension, Z2MQTT and Z2M are the same thing

glacial quiver
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Aight, the interference explains why mosqito sees the light strips but not Z2MQTT? As in, the connection is not stable enough to connect?

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coordinator software is also from 2021 (20210708). Should I update or is it a 'if it aint broke, don't fix it' situation?

violet dagger
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how can mosquitto broker see the light strip if zigbee2mqtt which sends the information to the broker cannot?

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seems you're mixing up the terminology

glacial quiver
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Broker msg: 2023-09-21 12:46:09: New connection from 172.....:55116 on port 1883.
2023-09-21 12:46:09: New client connected from 172....:55116 as mqttjs_73a67a5a (p2, c1, k60, u'addons').

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but neither show in the web ui of mqtt

ashen bluff
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Please provide surrounding logs and context and don't censor the ip. It's probably a healthcheck

glacial quiver
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It seems to repeat the new connection, new client connected, client closes connection within a span of one minute in the mosquitto broker logs.
(What do we use to share logs?)
Nothing else going on.

ashen bluff
rapid dawnBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

glacial quiver
ashen bluff
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Actually mqttjs isn't the healthcheck. Could be lots of things but likely Z2M or something else JS based.
The ip hints toward an addon and since it's the same one... You can make Z2M use a specific client id if you want to be sure

glacial quiver
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Im thinking of anything else I may have misconfigured;
The zigbee dongle is still in 'discovered'. I thought it was just for Z2M but is it also for Z2MQTT?
The zigbee dongle is on an usb 2.0 port, and ive added the ID ( /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0 ) instead of /dev/ttyUSB0. Does it matter?

ashen bluff
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Discovered? Not sure what you mean with also for Z2MQTT

glacial quiver
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Yeah - In the integrations tab I can configure 'Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus'.

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but AFAIK none of the guides ive seen mention or do anything with it

ashen bluff
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Which integration are you talking about? Are you trying to use ZHA and Z2M at the same time? 🤔

violet dagger
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sounds like it

true vector
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I'm working to intigrate the IKEA TRadfi 5 button remote into my setup. I was able to add it no problem. Single button press works. However when I try long presses, it also executes a single (short) press at the same time.
For single press, I see a single ZHA event, for long presses, I see for ZHA events. Is there a fix to sort this out?

glacial quiver
ashen bluff
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I'd say try both but not at the same time

glacial quiver
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I'm not trying to do both right now, I'm sorry if I confused you with that

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main focus is Z2MQTT

ashen bluff
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In this case you should probably remove/disable ZHA

glacial quiver
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I've been doing some digging. the u'homeassistant' in the mosquito broker log seems to be the broker itself (uses the homeassistant account), and Zigbee2MQTT add-in uses 'addons' (which doesnt exsist?)

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not sure if that matters, or if its a default or reserved username without password

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I assume that means that the coordinator sees no devices (in pairing mode) and that I should buy the extension cable before putting in much more effort / time right

ashen bluff
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ZHA stands for Zigbee Home Automation so basically where you're looking at

ashen bluff
glacial quiver
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I guess I'm tired because I don't see what you want me to see, unless you mean that the message is similiar to the message in the github and that it is a health check

vivid egret
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Hi, I'm a student of electrical engineering and ICT, and my major is IoT. For my assignment, I need to measure temperature and humidity and send this data to Microsoft Azure IoT Hub. I've been given a Raspberry Pi from my school to complete this assignment. I have an idea how to do this. I want to use the Zigbee protocol because there are the sensors I need, but I don't have any experience with it. When I look for information, I always find solutions for home assistant. My main question is, can I read the data from Zigbee sensors via the Raspberry Pi if I use a Zigbee dongle and push it to Azure?

sour shadow
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Yes

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However... rather than coding it all yourself, try Zigbee2MQTT and then you only have to interact with an MQTT broker

vivid egret
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i have see that alot the zigbee2mqtt but i dont realy understand what its used for?

sour shadow
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The name is pretty descriptive

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It's a bridge between Zigbee and MQTT

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(and they have a spiffy web site)

vivid egret
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and can i publish from the raspberry pi to azure ?

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with mqtt

sour shadow
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Well, that's on you

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Hopefully you already have a plan for that

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(the answer is clearly it's possible)

vivid egret
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ok thanks

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for the help

sour shadow
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"All" you'll have to solve is reading from MQTT topics and publishing to Azure, both of those are solved problems

burnt jolt
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Hi, i dont know if its the place to check, but anyone knows if z2mqtt supports the Tuya SC20 smart knob? or if there is any work to support it?
(and if not, can someone point me a to a guide where i might try to create my own support)

lilac wharf
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There's also a link on that page with info on adding support for unsupported devices

sick osprey
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Hey, so i have a Hama thermostat and zigbee2mqtt, in the webgui of zigbee2mqtt i can change the set temperature but in home assistant i don't even have the control element. i've read about the legacy value, but i'm not sure if that would make it work or maybe ruin something

cosmic fulcrum
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hey guys, i have a bit of trouble with one of my motion detectors, apparently because it gives a link quality of 0 - how would i ideally fix this?

occupancy inactive
battery_low False
battery 100%
voltage 3000mV
linkquality 0 lqi

sensor is a Sonoff SNZB-03

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nvm, another sensor with 78 lqi won't react either

sick osprey
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ok, setting legacy to false didn't change anything or i did something wrong

tidal dove
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Hi, im currently migrating my deCONZ network to Z2M. I have around 40 devices most of them bulbs. When triggering them alone, they work fine. However when using a service to e.g. turn off all lamps, several lamps have a delay, around 20 seconds. Is this normal?

sour shadow
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Somewhat, yes

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Creating a Zigbee group can help there

tidal dove
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Group in Z2M?

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I think I did the same in deconz

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Can I create a group for all lights?

sour shadow
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Yes, and yes

tidal dove
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Ok I’ll try this.thanks a ton mate

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Can confirm this fixes it. Awesome!

golden heath
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Hi folks,

I have a problem with a component that I want to include from Zigbee2MQTT into HomeAssistant. The device in question is the ZBMINIL2, and it was successfully added to Zigbee2MQTT. The device works within Zigbee2MQTT; I can read all the sensors and control the relay. However, when I attempted to add this device to HomeAssistant, I added the MQTT service to my devices, and the ZBMINIL2 was detected. Unfortunately, only the sensors from Zigbee2MQTT are showing up, and the switch to control the relay is missing.

Pic:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PbaR8loPPJSEuX9qo8HOMb7MtSQd7L4p/view?usp=sharing

bright goblet
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Hey I want to buy a sensor for air inside of my room since I can now control my ventilation. My initial idea was just to buy the first sensor that I could find, but since I'm a dev, are there any sensors that still require work where I can provide support for and buy them to make the support better?

sterile sleet
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Anybody know how philips will enforce the account creation to toggle lights?

I just now restricted internet access for the hub, it is on FW 1.60.196006203
As I don‘t care about updates and don‘t even use the app - I should be safe right?

sterile sleet
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The only reason I still have the hub in use is because of a gradient light which z2m supports at least in dev currently but none of the media sync apps know z2m or mqtt.

grizzled kettle
sour shadow
sterile sleet
grizzled kettle
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I feel like recently when I tried to setup their lights I needed their app to get them into zigbee pairing mode.

sterile sleet
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you can use their remotes too, just hold them near and keep pressing on and off

grizzled kettle
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Don't own one.

sterile sleet
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oh do you mean the wiz bulbs?
afaik these are f*ed with that policy change

grizzled kettle
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No, regular Hue BR30s

sterile sleet
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ah, yes you need a remote then

grizzled kettle
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(or the app)

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I guess that's one place they can gatekeep.

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Actually sucks cause their app requires a fairly recent version of android. My ~3 or 4 year old phone it would refuse to attempt to install, had to borrow the wife's.

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Or try to find an ancient APK to sideload.

sterile sleet
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I just had a look at the FW version today, last time I opened the app was ages ago the app got unloaded on my phone

sudden yarrow
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The Hue lights should enter pairing mode by cutting power and re-powering them 5 times in a row 🤔

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At least with a firmware newer than 1.65.7

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(might be for the ones with Bluetooth only)

sterile sleet
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oh nice, I thought thats a tradfri exclusive thing

spark hawk
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No reason the IKEA repeater shouldn’t work with a Tasmota Sonoff bridge and HASS right?

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I could add another bridge but I really hate flashing the things.

elfin dagger
#

Hey all, I decided to start fresh with HA to figure out my issue with z2m unknown device that is supported based on z2m's supported hardware

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when pairing, i get the "Received message from unsupported device with Zigbee model 'SMARTCODE_DEADBOLT_10_W3_L' and manufacturer name 'Kwikset'"

slim wedge
#

Does anyone know of some US Decora style Zigbee wall switches that supports Multi-Tap? I haven't been able to find anything in the Blackadder zigbee database (https://zigbee.blakadder.com/)

I know the Inovelli Blue DOES support up to 5x on each button, and the Enbrighten/GE models do NOT, but I only know because I have them both.

What about the Leviton Lumina ZS057-D0Z, or the Quirky Tapt PTAPT-WH02, or the Aqara "Smart Wall Switch (With Neutral)"?
Is Inovelli the only one with multi-press events, or are there others?

warm saddle
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Hello guyz, using sonoff zbmini extreme on two way switch. Do we required 2 zbmini to works?

opaque helm
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I added Zigbee usb repeater today, I open map to see my mesh network and see this: 🤣🤣

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I didnt even plan this 😂

grim igloo
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maybe you live on ley lines 😛

sudden yarrow
#

Is the Innr bulb power-on behavior configurable in ZHA?

proper dock
elfin dagger
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Does anyone know where the device TS files are located?

night rain
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A few days ago I migrated from the Nortek dongle to the SkyConnect one, and while the backup and migration mostly worked, I have a handfull of devices that are having an incredibly hard time reconnecting. Are there any good trouble shooting steps for this, or would it be best to just wipe ZHA and start fresh?

molten linden
sudden yarrow
pseudo forum
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I'm starting not to trust these aqara door/window sensors.

astral seal
astral seal
pseudo forum
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One was reporting that it was closed when it wasn't. I had to fiddle with it to get it to report as open again. That's all.

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batteries seem to be draining quickly too

night rain
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That’s worked for most of my devices, except for a few Sengled bulbs (warm white only and warm/cool white are the ones having issues, my colored Sengled bulbs reconnected themselves right away). One or two of them won’t show up at all in the “add device” screen, even after being reset multiple times, and one or two of them will show up, but they get stuck on “configuring”

austere patio
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If you aren't receiving sensor updates and have already swapped in a new battery, make sure the sensor is joined through the physically closest parent router. Find the router closest to your sensor, click "add devices via this device", and then reset the Aqara sensor to get it to re-join. Also, make sure your coordinator is on a USB extension cable and away from interference sources such as USB 3.0 ports and SSDs.

pseudo forum
vast yoke
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When a Z2M device loses connection, what's the right way of fixing it without having to delete the device from Z2M, which gets the device deleted in HA and messes up all the automations involved?

sour shadow
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Re-pair it

bronze widget
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I'm having some trouble with 2 Aqara window sensors i just got. Both get added to HA via SkyConnect, but the states is always Closed and doesn't change. I tried reconfiguring but it didn't help. I got other aqara devies and door sensors and those work. Am i missing something?

austere patio
bronze widget
#

I do have an aqara smart socket

austere patio
bronze widget
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i kind of covered all of those, i did pair it next to the skyconnect stick and then also next to the socket in the room i'm trying to add it to

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also another strange thing is that the Battery status is UNKNOWN

sick osprey
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Hey, so i have this problem with zigbee2mqtt and HA. i have multiple devices (plugs, thermostats) on which i can only see some values and change a few things, but i have no option to turn them on or off... do i need to change something specific to get these options?

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on the webgui of zigbee2mqtt i see all options tho

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i've tried to turn off legacy, but that didn't change anything

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one of the devices is a hama thermostat and the other on is a blitzwolf plug switch

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i have the suspicion that HA is not listening to the right topic, since zigbee2mqtt shows a lot of stats but it also creates a topic called homeassistant

sterile sleet
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Did you try restarting the services in use?

vital ermine
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I'm getting this error way too often to have a reliable smart home: Failed to send request: device did not respond

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It's pretty new since some time, no hard ware has changed

austere patio
violet dagger
#

which efr32mg21 chip is in skyconnect?

molten linden
vital ermine
vast yoke
# sour shadow Re-pair it

Can you describe the exact steps? Do you mean deleting it from Z2M and repair? Or is there a way to avoid deleting it?

AFAIK if I delete it, all the entities and device from HA get deleted as well, which will break automations. Right?

carmine hamlet
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Hit 'permit join' and factory reset the device. It will leave the mesh and rejoin and HA won't know the difference

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You'll just need to redo any device settings that you changed

vast yoke
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so without manually deleting you mean?

carmine hamlet
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Yes

vast yoke
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perfect, will try, thanks

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yeaah! It worked. Thanks! I know it was silly, but I was deleting the device everytime (thought not doing so wouldn't count as repairing). Worked perfect.

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Side question, is there an indicator in Z2M that tells you if the device has "gone silent"? Often I only discover they've losty connection after looking at a flat graph, or eventually trying to turn on the light and it doesn't respond. When you check them in Z2M they apparently show as normal, even the LQI. Isn't there an indicator somewhere for picking it up as soon as it happens?

carmine hamlet
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it's not constantly polling the device

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which would be impossible for battery devices, but even for those that are plugged in

vast yoke
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that's what I mean. But even when it hasn't received a poll since long ago, it doesn't "say" this device went silent anywhere?

carmine hamlet
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it's not polling at all

ashen bluff
carmine hamlet
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well, nevermind 🙂

vast yoke
violet dagger
carmine hamlet
#

His cat walked across the keyboard

left venture
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I could use some help
I've recently changed from the original Philips hue bridge to sky connect and now the motion sensor from Philips won't detect Motion.
I've also got a Ikea motion sensor that works fine
Any idea what might be wrong?

violet dagger
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Have you tried pairing it again?

left venture
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Yes
Even tried a different sensor

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I've got 2 outdoor and one Indoor and none are working as they should

karmic kelp
karmic kelp
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It can’t be an issue of z2m or the Mqtt broker

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Somethings wrong with hass

ashen bluff
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Click the ⚙️ and see if you can enable it. Not every entity is enabled by default

karmic kelp
ashen bluff
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Gotta ask the Z2M devs. I guess it's to not bloat the database with "useless" stuff. Some of the diagnostic entities seem to be disabled by default

sick osprey
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still struggling with my problem :/

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you want me to state it again? 😅

ashen bluff
sick osprey
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sorry, next time i'll do that!

ashen bluff
sick osprey
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how do i add a screenshot here?

rapid dawnBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

sick osprey
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ok, so in that developer mode i see the value current_heating_setpoint: 5 on home assistant, but not on the device page, 1 sec, screenshot is on the way

#

is that the screenshot you need?

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and the device page in the mqtt integration only shows me this

ashen bluff
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I suppose Heating is your on/off?

sick osprey
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i could be wrong, but i'd say no. that value just shows if it's heating or not... in zigbee2mqtt there's a value called "system mode" which i can set to on/off/auto

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that's the zigbee2mqtt page of that device

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heating is still ON in this picture because i changed it on that page recently

ashen bluff
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And theres nothing related to that in the states if you search for thermostat_wohnzimmer? Might have to check the Z2M source

sick osprey
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system_mode on the dev. page on HA seems to be it

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tbh not sure what to do with that info..

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i see that this code block is used to read the system_mode

glossy needle
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just posted about this in a diff channel, trying to set up zigbee and its just giving me this, can't really decrypt the error

sick osprey
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even if i change that value to "heat" in the dev settings, it doesn't change anything in zigbee2mqtt

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feels like it's some kind of one way communication between HA and zigbee2mqtt

astral seal
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Things you change under "states" in the developer tools won't affect the device and so would not show in z2m. That feature is for simulating a state change for testing things that depend on that state change, like automation triggers.

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Under Developer Tools>Services, can you call climate.set_hvac_mode and change the mode of the thermostat?
Do you get more controls if you tap or click on "Local temperature..." under Konfiguration on the device page in HA?

night rain
#

Any way to stop hue bulbs from acting as router devices?

violet dagger
#

What?

lilac wharf
astral seal
cosmic juniper
#

just to follow up on this, after switching to the sonoff stick i haven't had any issues with devices going randomly unavailable. i changed nothing else with my hardware, so i have to assume there is some issue with skyconnect. i still see new reports from others of the same thing, which is part of the reason i'm giving this update. if you're having bad luck with skyconnect like i did, just get the sonoff.

sick osprey
vital ermine
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hi! im trying to find an offending zigbee device. Is there a way to eport a list of device names + zigbee address?

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2023-09-23 21:40:41.830 ERROR (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0x5AB8:1:0x0500] Traceback (most recent call last):
i got this only...

fresh citrus
#

Anyone managed to turn on/off the LED on IKEA Vindstyrka with HA?

broken stratus
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I baught a Zigbee Sonnof Dongle Plus and connected it to my rasp running Home Assistant, i followed a tutorial, done the mendatory configurations for mqtt and the zigbee config, but i am getting 502 Gateway Error and the other suspicious thing is that all the tutorials get a port: dev/tty/USB0 and i get dev/tty/ACME0 or something like that, can anyone help, did anyone run to this situation, it would be very helpfull, thank you in advance!

sour shadow
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What do the logs for Zigbee2MQTT tell you?

broken stratus
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Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-09-24 14:20:57: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-09-24.14-20-57' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-09-24 14:20:57: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.33.0 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-09-24 14:20:57: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.18.5)
Error: Reset error: Error: {"sequence":-1} after 10000ms
at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/uart.ts:299:23
at Queue.executeNext (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/queue.ts:32:32)

sour shadow
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Looks like it's having issues with the stick

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You didn't set up any integration for it did you?

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You've tried flashing it with current firmware, just in case there's an issue with the flash?

broken stratus
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At first I put it with the original flash I think I had the same problem, then I read about a firmware upgrade I did it on the computer, but still the same..

sour shadow
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You didn't set up any integration for it did you?

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You'll see problems if you've enabled ZHA

broken stratus
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via zha i was able to connect a snzb-01 buttons

sour shadow
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You can only use either ZHA or Z2M - to use both you need a second coordinator

broken stratus
dull ice
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hey! I'm using ZHA on RPi with everything up-to-date. I have a Tuya 4 channel switch and I believe that when connecting, the incorrect quirk is being used for the control. ZHA detected it as zhaquirks.tuya.ts000x.Switch_4G_Metering is used while I think it should use .Switch_4G_GPP instead. I think this is the case bacause:

  1. There is no data in the voltage, power, etc sensors - all equal to 0
  2. Through "manage zigbee device" I can change the switch type of the device (which should not be available for the metering device)

how can I force ZHA to use a specific quirk, different than the default, for this device?

violet dagger
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It is not incorrect, it's chosen according to the device zigbee and vendor IDs

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What you have is a device that requires a new quirk since it's reusing an existing ID

quartz wyvern
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Anyone using Xfinity XHK1-UE security keypad? Wondering if there is a way to control the beeping? It beeps when pressing buttons, but not when it gets armed.

dull ice
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@violet dagger where can I check device's ZigBee and vendor IDs? and where in the quirks code is the matching? I could check if this is indeed incorrect matching

violet dagger
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You look at the device card

dull ice
violet dagger
dull ice
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so is there anything else that should differentiate between them?

violet dagger
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Available clusters

dull ice
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if I understand correctly, ZHA would check the device model and then do some matching based on available clusters?

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my device seems to have the cluster available (when I go to "Manage Zigbee device" but then there is no data available there)

vital ermine
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somehow my zigbee network is on channel 11, according to the exported json backup. IF i decide to change it to 15 (first checking wifi around me), will the devices fallen off the network get its original entity naming? Or does HA see it as a completely new device?

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loosing entities if tough to get it up and working again.....

austere patio
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Not if you use the ZHA channel migration feature (pencil icon next to the channel number). The auto setting will pick a better channel than you would using WiFi network information alone.

vital ermine
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i came from a sonoff, which i think was 11. Then you helped me so migrate to a stick even before it was an option in HA

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so im stuck on 11, although it says AUTO?

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i assume HA doesnt change channels on the fly right....?

austere patio
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auto tells ZHA to scan and pick a channel after you click "submit"

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Instead of you having to pick one by hand

vital ermine
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so i can use this without loosing my complete network?

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i dont mind 1 or 2. but all 63 devices...

austere patio
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It'll ask devices on your network to migrate to the new channel. Some people lose no devices, some a few. If you are in a spot with so much interference that no packets can be sent out, that would prevent devices from migrating.

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If you can move your WiFi network, I would do that first

vital ermine
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ok so HA will choose a channel with least interference

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?

austere patio
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Yes

vital ermine
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it does a scan? ok thats smart stuff

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its set 11 now. gonna change to auto now

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i have loads of wifi around me.

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so i hope i will get less zigpy errors

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thx for the info! much appreciated

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and HA choose........ 11 again lol

austere patio
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Refresh the page

vital ermine
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15!

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you are right

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lets ee how this pans out over the next couple of days 🙂

austere patio
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Your routers (e.g. bulbs) should migrate instantly, sensors can take a 10-15 minutes

vital ermine
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ye, once they call in

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did a quick check and stuff works. Will do the house completely tomorrow

rapid dawnBOT
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@broken stratus I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
ashen bluff
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8123 is not your MQTT server's port

broken stratus
ashen bluff
tropic mason
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Hi all, just moving this from the general channel to this one - but unsure if I should be raising this forum post. I tried but I can't seem to google an answer for this.

I have this recurring error, which I assume is due to one of my Zigbee devices, but can I figure out which device is triggering it?

Logger: zigpy.device
Source: runner.py:186
First occurred: September 24, 2023 at 10:52:38 PM (47 occurrences)
Last logged: 3:49:27 AM

Failed to parse message (b'1c5f117d0af700413703280f05217b00092100010a2100000b20000c20010d231e0e000011230100000065202566208067203d6920026a21e11b6b2000') on cluster 64704, because Data is too short
turbid drum
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hey... I've got a dimmer switch that I'd like to control a light with. It's a lutron Aurora (has a outter ring that turns for dimming, and a center button for toggle).

In order to use it, I must use the mqtt events that fire, and while I've been able to figure out toggling the light based on event topic, I am not familiar enough with this method to get the dimming working... :\

I have a blueprint for this switch which "works" but, the state of the lights it's controlling don't stay in sync with HA. (just means having to push the button several times to get it to sync each time you use it).

I'm looking to move away from this blueprint, but... I don't even understand how the blueprint works :\
This is the blueprint: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/legacy-zigbee2mqtt-lutron-aurora-dimmer-control/452283

Anybody able to help me learn how to do this?

turbid drum
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When using the developer tools EVENTS to listen to mqtt events... what do I listen to?

grim cloud
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Hello. Looking for an advice for zigbee stick which plugs into the raspberry pi4 I would buy from EU sources.

violet dagger
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For ZHA?

grim cloud
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yes

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for replace my unsupported xiaomi gateway

violet dagger
vital ermine
grim cloud
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I found local store with this 3 options: CC2652RB from Slae.sh, SkyConnect, or Sonoff with EFR32MG21.
There is a small price difference, but its ok.

violet dagger
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skyconnect is designed to work with ha so, arguably, it would be the best choice

violet dagger
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In other news T1 Aqara sensors are available in european market

glacial quiver
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Took me some time, but after purchasing an usb extension cord Ive finally got two philips hue led strips in Z2MQTT.

Could someone tell me where I can find the entities in HA (e.g. state, brightness, color)? I can see and control them just fine through the 'exposed' section zigbee 2 mqtt addon.
If it helps: I do have some entities in the MQTT integration

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I'd assume I would have to check some setting in the zigbee add on? A Guide that added a led bulb to zigbee2mqtt seemed to have these entities available to them instantly

sour shadow
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Those aren't enities - those are attributes of the light entity

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That's how all lights work

glacial quiver
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Right. How do I makenthose attributes available to me in HA?

sour shadow
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You're taking the wrong approach

rapid dawnBOT
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The XY problem is asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem.

sour shadow
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What are you wanting to do?

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Controlling any entity is done with service calls

rapid dawnBOT
sour shadow
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Like the ones documented there

glacial quiver
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I want to be able to control my LED strips through my google voice assistant, which I can do if I have the state on/off available

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And sync them with google home for the WAF

sour shadow
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Well, control through Google voice just requires you to expose the light to Google

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Same for the second one

glacial quiver
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The issue I think Im facing is that I struggle to understand how I do this with zigbee devices, as I dont see the light as a device in HA

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That while I know its pairing through the add on, so I must be missing some connection

sour shadow
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Not a device, an entity

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You have a light entity

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That is what you expose to Google - via google_assistant or cloud

rapid dawnBOT
#
Entities

Open your Home Assistant instance and show your entities

sour shadow
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There's some o mine

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glacial quiver
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Thank you for trying to bring me up to speed with the right terminology.
To summarise you're saying that I should make the philip hue led strip, which is a light entity, available to google in order to control the light. I assume the doc you linked aids me in exposing/creating the light entity

sour shadow
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If you want to control it from Google, you have to expose it to Google

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Where that entity came from is irrelevant, just that it exists in HA

rapid dawnBOT
sour shadow
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Using that, or the cloud service

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You don't need Google to control the light from HA, or anything other than Google

glacial quiver
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Hmm, I guess I was/am confused because some attributes of the 'hue light entity' are available to me, just not the ones I desire

sour shadow
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You however do not directly change those attributes

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You call a service on the light entity

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Also, you're looking at other entities of the device

glacial quiver
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Right, and those are the commands found on the zigbee2mqtt website?

sour shadow
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No

glacial quiver
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Hmm.. I see its a bit of a learning curve comming from 'wifi only' devices

sour shadow
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The thing is, once in HA whether the device is WiFi or Zigbee, or wet string, is irrelevant

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All that matters is that it's a light or switch, or ...

glacial quiver
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Ill go have a look at the docs you sent over and 'tinker' 😜 with it for a bit

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Thank you for now

obtuse umbra
analog jackal
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So I added 2 magnetic door sensors to ZHA however their entity ids are basically the same, just the second one has a _2 which is not helpful when using them anywhere hah. I found an issue discussing it but I'm not really sure what the solution actually is here. For instance, my entity is sensor.lumi_lumi_sensor_magnet_aq2_* and I'd much rather it be sensor.front_door_sensor_magnet_* is that possible? https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/35336

violet dagger
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The solution is to change them

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You can rename the device and/or individual entity id's

analog jackal
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k, i just didn't know if renaming them removing some kind of link or anything. Im not really familiar with how all this works behind the scenes

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Is there a way to bulk rename them?

violet dagger
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Some kind of link?

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Why would you bulk rename devices?

analog jackal
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Device <-> Entity

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Bulk rename the entities

violet dagger
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You can rename the device and/or individual entity id's

sour shadow
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You can rename the device, which will rename the entities (if you didn't rename them already)

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Either way they remain linked to the device, you can't break that link

analog jackal
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Renaming the device does not seem to rename the entities

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ok thanks

violet dagger
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It does if you didn't already, it even asks you if you want to do that or keep old names

carmine hamlet
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it will if you tell it to (it asks), and if you haven't already manually renamed them

analog jackal
#

it did ask, but it did not do the rename

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and I have not manually renamed them

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Maybe i'm being unclear, by "rename" i mean the entity id

carmine hamlet
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Then rename to something else and back

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It should rename the names and entity_ids, but it won't if it thinks you've done something to them

analog shale
#

Anyone know a good zigbee smart plug type F that doesn't do coil whine ?

sour shadow
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I'd expect Innr to be fine since their UK ones are silent

violet dagger
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Coil whine perception can differ between people so no guarantees

sour shadow
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I can hear device whine only too well, but yeah

analog shale
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Il look into it whine is so anoyying

inner bay
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hoping this is correct channel.
trying to use IKEA Rodret (E2201) remote with z2m and in the long run Node red.

anyone had success using it ?

violet dagger
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If your question is if it's supported by z2m, yes it is

inner bay
#

so it might be node red then

violet dagger
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Node red still requires z2m or another Zigbee solution

inner bay
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i have z2m setup and working

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i'll hop over to node red channel as you just confirmed the support for z2m

mighty jasper
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Anyone know of a decent, affordable Zigbee multisensor that can be plugged in? Really trying to minimized the number of batteries in my life. There's a Zwave one for $37, (temp,humidity,motion,light) but I can't find a Zigbee equivalent

violet dagger
inner bay
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@violet dagger according to lots of posts it's only fully supported thru ZHA. z2m seems to struggle

violet dagger
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Then why is it on their supported devices list?

unborn sentinel
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Hi, I need a suggestion available on amazon canada

I got an Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 usb Dongle plus and bulb B05-A19 , and its work well on HA but i need to be on cloud

i need a light who can be controlled offline any suggestions ?
i have button SNZB-01 too

thanks

violet dagger
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Any Zigbee bulb is local only

unborn sentinel
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its not the same Sonoff B05 ?

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its writed Zibee on the side

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when i search on amazon i have , Sengled and Kaza

violet dagger
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It's writed where exactly?

unborn sentinel
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oh sorry i made a mistake , its writed SONOFF

violet dagger
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Understandable mistake, those two are easily confused

unborn sentinel
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thanks

violet dagger
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You can try SonoffLAN custom component for your wifi bulb

carmine hamlet
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they share no letters

unborn sentinel
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i need to switch wifi to local ?

violet dagger
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Sounded like you want to do that

violet dagger
unborn sentinel
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I have this , its there I change ?

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i mean to local

violet dagger
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If you don't want cloud you need to change to local

unborn sentinel
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ok I will retry

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the change will be instantly or i need to restart HA ?

violet dagger
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Why so many questions? Your HA will not implode suddenly

unborn sentinel
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sorry lol

thorn kelp
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I migrated my zigbee radio from Sonoff to Skyconnect last night.... but when I go into ZHA it's still showing the Sonoff dongle.

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if i click thru to Config, it'll show /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Nabu_Casa_SkyConnect_v1.0

mellow geode
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The integration name? You should be able to rename it

thorn kelp
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...strange

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Ahh ok fair.

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getting some strange behaviour post-migration so i was wondering if that was a factor.

mellow geode
#

Unlikely. Your old stick is unplugged, right?

#

What issues are you seeing?

thorn kelp
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certain zigbee bulbs aren't turning on/off with automations.... however they can be manually turned on/off

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a bunch of devices were giving me a "cant send message" error last night. unplug/replugging them seemed to fix it

mellow geode
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If you experience it again, turn on debug logging and send snippets of the failed requests here

unborn sentinel
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where is the best place to buy Zigbee bulbs ?

mighty jasper
thorn kelp
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very strange

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so bits of it work and others dont

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i'll check the trace to diagnose... just very very strange

mellow geode
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Is it a Zigbee group or a HA group?

thorn kelp
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HA

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for both

#

rather, "Helper" specifically

mellow geode
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Okay, should be good for "a small amount of lights".

thorn kelp
mellow geode
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Is the SkyConnect plugged into a USB extension cable?

thorn kelp
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50cm

mellow geode
thorn kelp
mellow geode
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Logs would be helpful at this point

thorn kelp
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zb and zw dongles are both on 50cm cables and about 50cm away from each other

mighty river
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Hello. I have an issue with switching from SD to SSD (Kingston a400) on Rpi4. Have a fresh HAOS on n the ssd, can boot it and then roll out the update. But I have issues with my ZHA devices - primarily with the lights. Cannot turn them on anymore. The ZHA window sensors and temperature sensors report data just fine. And idea? Logger: homeassistant.components.automation.licht_flur_aus Source: helpers/script.py:420 Integration: Automation (documentation, issues) First occurred: September 22, 2023 at 11:18:01 AM (4 occurrences) Last logged: September 24, 2023 at 11:45:05 PM Licht_Flur_Aus: Error executing script. Error for device at pos 1: Failed to send request: Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>

obtuse umbra
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unplug/plug your coordinator

rapid dawnBOT
#

@wraith pelican I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
mighty river
# obtuse umbra unplug/plug your coordinator

Did not solve the issue. I did not change anything in the setup exept adding a SSD via SATA Adapter to the USB3 port. ```[547598916416] Failed to send request: Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.NWK_ROUTE_DISCOVERY_FAILED: 208>
[547598916416] Failed to send request: Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE: 225>
[547617385408] Failed to send request: Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE: 225>
[547617385408] Failed to send request: Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.NWK_ROUTE_DISCOVERY_FAILED: 208>``

mighty river
latent hatch
#

is there some kind of zigbee relay that supports having a "timed output" on board? what i mean is that i want the device to turn itself off after a small fixed time of being turned on (for example, to send an open signal to a door), doing this kind of stuff in HA automations has failed me in the past because of unwanted delays and stuff, so i wanted to get some kind of devices that can have this auto shutdown programmed on board just like you can do with wifi relays

lament phoenix
umbral pivot
#

I just installed my SkyConnect, it picks up essentially all the devices I used to have on my Sonoff but it doesn't work past that. Any command I issue I get

Failed to call service light/turn_on. Failed to send request: Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>
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This is using ZHA

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I am also using a 1.5M USB extension cable, with the device situated about a meter away from the server.

wraith pelican
#

Same, its started happening in the last day for me. Previously worked just fine and nothing changed besides maybe a reboot

wraith pelican
#

The weirdest thing is that the closest ZHA devices still work, but everything else is failing (including Thread). The location/environment hasn't changed so that's even weirder.

vital ermine
#

For peeps who have trouble keeping the zigpy logs clear. since 2 days i switched zigbee channel from 11 to AUTO, and it selected 15 for me. SInce then my logs stays almost clear of an various errors and the network as a whole is way more snappy

lime locust
#

my old cc2531 stick can be reflashed to be a router ? and does this also need an extension cord in the phone charger ?

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can it even be flashed over usb only ?

echo sentinel
#

dunno what chaned in recent hass versions but it's just gone to absolute shit

vital ermine
#

Somehow recently I got scripts failing to run because of some ZigBee device not responding. Looks like the new Core made the whole script error out when that happened. That's new, old way it used to just execute the rest of the script

echo sentinel
#

I mean the ZHA integration won't even initialise lol

vital ermine
#

Now with the new channel things run smoothly, but that doesn't mean that new annoyance is fone

#

You need more help then I can give

echo sentinel
#

logs on my gateway just show hass connecting and giving up lol

Connect from host 192.168.0.222 fd=5
Closing existing connection
Connect from host 192.168.0.222 fd=5
Closing existing connection
Connect from host 192.168.0.222 fd=6
Closing existing connection
Connect from host 192.168.0.222 fd=5
Closing existing connection
Connect from host 192.168.0.222 fd=5
Closing existing connection```
echo sentinel
#

for exmaple, it's just connected fine on this restart of hass lol

thorn kelp
#

Everything seems to be a bit goofy since I migrated from my Sonoff to Skyconnect Zigbee radio.

At first I assumed, perhaps it was my USB extension(as my host uses USB3), even though my Sonoff stick was fine using the same cable.

Now... idk. I'm getting some bizarre issues that appear to be intermittant.

i.e. tried to turn on a zigbee bulb a moment ago. Worked fine. Turned it off, worked fine. Moments later when trying to turn it on..

Failed to send request: Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>
(full log: https://pastebin.com/zvxjhU9L)

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I've got just under 80 zigbee devices in total. probably 20+ routers. While my 2.4 airspace is pretty busy (living in a city), i haven't had these issues before migrating to Skyconnect

thorn kelp
#

Searching for EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102 seems to yield a lot of results here, many (but not all) referencing Skyconnect

umbral pivot
#

I just searched thru the bits and found this comment that seems to support my conclusion

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I was hoping for a bit better support on a official, commercial product

thorn kelp
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...at least in my case specifically

umbral pivot
#

Yes, the channel is just for good measure

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I think it's the network being fucky.

#

The auto adoption seemed too good to be true.

#

So it's a hard reset for all devices for me.

thorn kelp
umbral pivot
#

For me it's this or dumb lights so lmaoo

thorn kelp
#

Worst case scenario I'll migrate back to my Sonoff controller... Ironically I bough the SkyConnect expecting better support/reliability

umbral pivot
#

I can't wait for support to maybe come at some point.

thorn kelp
#

at this point idk if it is the SkyConnect for sure, but, i can say for sure that it was working fine 2 days ago(and for 2 years before that) with the Sonoff dongle

umbral pivot
#

I just want matter support, so it's not even on the table. I wiped the network in hopes of a smoother start

#

I think the devices I'm using just needs a reset.

#

Reset network key etc.

wraith pelican
#

I’m doing a reset right now and that’s fixing issues :/ but now I gotta fix automations lol

austere patio
umbral pivot
austere patio
#

auto is the default for the dialog but it's not a setting

#

It just says "pick a good channel" instead of you manually selecting one from the dropdown

#

"Resetting everything" usually fixes things because ZHA forms the new network on the best channel for your environment. If your current network is on a congested channel, moving the channel will have a nearly-identical effect.

umbral pivot
#

I've reset the SkyConnect three times to no avail, with both 11, auto and 15, so the way I'm seeing the next obvious step is resetting the devices.

main ruin
#

Does a ZigBee mesh require a coordinator to operate? Or could in case it fails the mesh still handle preconfigured actions?

umbral pivot
austere patio
lilac wharf
main ruin
#

How would I setup such bind

austere patio
thorn kelp
lilac wharf
main ruin
#

Hm I see so chances are good if I don't see it in the ui that it doesn't work

thorn kelp
austere patio
# thorn kelp https://pastebin.com/Bj6w1fAZ

I'm not seeing anything too out of the ordinary. Is your old stick still plugged in somewhere? Can you try re-orienting the SkyConnect or using a longer extension cable?

One thing to try is to update its firmware to the latest release, which you can do by disabling ZHA, installing the "Silicon Labs Flasher" addon, configuring it to point to the stick, then running the addon. Once it finishes (~30 seconds), you can re-enable ZHA.

thorn kelp
#

I'm not seeing anything too out of the ordinary.

Thanks for checking!

Is your old stick still plugged in somewhere?

Disconnected on a desk

Can you try re-orienting the SkyConnect

Done, no change

using a longer extension cable

tried as well. no change.

#

Firmware may be the ticket. I'll give that a shot tonight.

#

heading out for a few hours, probably not wise to flash firmware now haha

ashen bluff
#

If you put a space after the > the quote(s) will actually work

ashen compass
#

I'm using z2m and have a pair of ikea fyrtur shades. I'm looking to bind the remote, but when I click unbind it fails. Anyone have an idea on why? genPollCtrl is the only cluster remaining

dire owl
mellow geode
dire owl
#

Thanks

#

ZHA/multi-pan/SkyConnect

brave fiber
#

Hey guys, does somebody have knowledge of mosquitto bridging, i have troubles with my bridge setup since i upgraded from 1.6.x to latest mosquitto version 😦

violet wave
glacial quiver
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It took me some time to figure out, but I've found that I can 'make' light entities from the zigbee2mqtt if i add a mqtt: light: to my main configuration.yaml file (see below).

http://pastie.org/p/3LQ4WQnRiyKUYcz5Sd6TqX

I've not configured lights/devices through yaml before; If I were to add another light to the yaml it mentions using the same 'trick' (code snippet starting from light:...) it has a duplicate key and it errors.

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how do I add another entity to this list?

violet dagger
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The - makes it a list

glacial quiver
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I also have some difficulties 'translating' the mqtt page info into what I need to put in the light config.

Do I just look at the zigbee2mqtt output of the device and start trying to match the mqtt light docs from HA?

violet dagger
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Quick question: why are you doing it manually?

glacial quiver
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Uhh, if there's a way to do it automatically please show me.

I just want to control my lights using the voice assistant of Google home, and Tinkerer mention that I should make light entities for them so that I can send service calls to the light.

Before I edited the configuration.yaml, I was not able to control the led strips at all (yes, through zigbee2mqtt addon, but not through HA/GH)

violet dagger
glacial quiver
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Ok will have a look. As a non programmer it is a bit overwhelming with all the new terminology, so I'm not always sure what I'm looking at (e.g. with the link you provided)

thorn kelp
gleaming jay
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@molten linden is it safe to update esphome on the poe coordinator? Installed version is 2022.9.4, latest is 2023.9.0 so getting a year old now?

molten linden
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I have not tested 2023.9.0. so I do not recommend updating

austere patio
burnt nest
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does my zigbee light have to remain plugged in ?

austere patio
thorn kelp
austere patio
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So you are able to receive data, but you cannot send? That sounds like interference. What nearby devices do you have?

thorn kelp
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Device info
E11-N1EA
by sengled

^problematic bulbs

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Would that error be triggered because;

the message can't be sent or;

the message is sent but no ACK is received so HA says it wasn't sent.

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i don't know the answer, but given the instantaneous error message when hitting a button, i'm thinking it's the first one

austere patio
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It's possible there is a routing problem. Wait until the beta releases later today and try it out, there are a few changes that may help.

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Also, which Sonoff stick did you migrate from? The -P or the -E?

thorn kelp
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I'm seeing other references to that error here in the chat, many of those users have SC as well... so it feels like it's an issue with SC and not my environment but there's not enough data to say that conclusively.

thorn kelp
austere patio
thorn kelp
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Ahhh, good to know

glacial quiver
thorn kelp
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Hm, after some more googling it seems like a lot of people are getting <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102> with the SkyConnect. Seeing issues going back to early this year, several in the last 8 weeks or so.

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adding code that does a bunch of retries is a bit of a band-aid. Anecdotally, if i manually try sending the command over and over (once every 15-30sec or so) it continues to fail. If i come back in 30mins there's about a 50/50 shot it works.

austere patio
thorn kelp
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ahhhh, fair enough. that's what i get for making a layman interpretation.

austere patio
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Often times the -P's aggressive retrying can mask network issues behind slight delays

thorn kelp
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still a bit concerning to see such a big issue persist for so long

austere patio
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99% of the time the problem is environmental noise. The delivery failures are a symptom, not an issue directly. In either case, give the beta a try once it comes out. If it still doesn't help improve reliability for you, I'd be curious to know what exact devices you have on your network.

thorn kelp
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Thanks, and just for clarity when you say beta you're referring to SC firmware?

grim igloo
thorn kelp
austere patio
thorn kelp
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ahhh gotcha, thanks

thorn kelp
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@austere patio unsure if this info is valuable but it appears that the only affected devices are Sengled Bulbs, models; E11-N1EA, E11-G13, Z01-A19NAE26.

They're pretty dispersed around the house. Issue appears to be more prevalent with devices farthest away from the SC in the basement, however all of these bulbs have LOS to a router.

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i'll fiddle with some plugs to see if i can replicate the issue there. I don't recall it happening to a plug off hand, but it's rare that i cycle those on/off

languid swan
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i`m having some problems with ZHA and ikea tradefri the big 4 button one ( its not passing configuration)

thorn kelp
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the buttons chew through CR2032's at a shockingly fast speed

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batteries aren't accessible without a tiny philips driver. all around just terribly designed devices. Currently using the ThirdReality buttons and motion sensors. they use AAA's and it's just a matter of sliding a hatch to access the batts

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both of my ikea buttons came with dead batts, both of them consumed a duracell cr2032 in about 4 weeks.

mellow geode
mossy osprey
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I bought some TuYa WSD500A's (Ts0201 _tz3000_xr3htd96)

When using ZHA or Z2M, they report temps for about an hour or 2, then stop. Then after 12 hours, they go offline. Is there a way to tell them to continue responding without hitting the button ever hour?

molten linden
thorn kelp
molten linden
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there are certain mix of devices that can make sengleds just drop off the network until you power cycle them. Usually you see nwk conflicts (if using ezsp adaptor)

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^certain mix = random mix having a cc2652 router using z-stack router fw seems to make the issue worse in some situations

austere patio
thorn kelp
austere patio
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ApplicationController is not running shouldn't be happening, this means that your coordinator is not running. How are you running Home Assistant? OS? Or in a VM?

thorn kelp
inner bay
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@violet dagger just a heads up. IKEA RODRET (E2201) is supported but it took a restart of z2m and about 50 attempts to pair it be4 it properly configured. even tho z2m popped an error message that it wasn't paired properly when it actually succeeded

violet dagger
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Ok and?

inner bay
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are ikea stuff generally this tricky ?

violet dagger
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No

inner bay
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anyway. only wanted to share the info but seems it was of no interest. sorry for the ping then

thorn kelp
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I swear there used to be a way to @ someone without the ping. was that a dream? lol

carmine hamlet
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you're in Tinkerer's dream

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some kind of Discordception

thorn kelp
carmine hamlet
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you can switch it off in each reply

rapid dawnBOT
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When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

thorn kelp
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AHhhhhhhhhhhh Shift Click, that's it

bold nymph
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Can someone please help me understand how Zigby routers work? Does the Zigby router just gets the signal and passes it to a further distance without making it stronger?

Because I have 38 zigbee devices, 13 of them are routers almost all of them have below 80 LQI even though they are in 2-3 meters distance from each other, is it because the first router (i.e the closest one to the coordinator) has a low LQI to begin with?

{Please ping me when answering}

sour shadow
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passes it to a further distance without making it stronger
ablobconfused

lilac wharf
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LQI isn't a particularly useful metric on its own. If the device is working, then you can generally disregard the LQI

bold nymph
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My closest router from the coordinator has 40/60 LQI even though it’s just less than 2-4 meter distance and it passes it to the rest of the routers

sour shadow
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Could be interference

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Could be a really shit router

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Could even be both

bold nymph
bold nymph
thorn kelp
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NWK conflict is reported for 0x2ea2

Well that's concerning... I can't find a way to search by network addr though.

austere patio
mellow geode
thorn kelp
austere swallow
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Do dimmer modules with neutral and support rocker switches just not exist? Even the Samotech device which has the built-in switch is no longer for sale.

grim igloo
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Like just decora style?

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Inovelli blues

austere swallow
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No, either the dimmer modules or behind switch plate style. I want to reuse existing switches so need a dimmer module that supports rocket switches and neutral

pseudo forum
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One of my aqara door/window contact sensors doesn't have a line to anything in the network map, though it seems to be working. Is that normal?

grim igloo
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Network map not being accurate is normal

bold nymph
bold nymph
lucid sparrow
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darn it.. i just purchased an active usb to ethernet extension adaptor from aliexpress

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before realising its only usb 1.1 compliant.. will the zigbee sonoff p dongle work with usb 1.1?

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its only low speed serial anyway or so I thought

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im currently using a passive usb to ethernet which works fine.. except when theres a thunderstorm or a hot day, and it drops out 😉

lucid sparrow
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well i guess there's one way to find out.. there are usb 2.0 ones, but they cost significantly more

spare mural
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Might be misremembering, but zigbee I think tops out at 250kbps, while USB 1.1 is 12Mbps. Even counting overheads, think you'll likely be ok

lucid sparrow
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nice.. this could be a life hack then, because it advertises up to 60 metres

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like i said, the passive $2 one works.. but not very well.. im suspecting voltage dips

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thats at 30 metres anyway

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the ones that advertise 120m.. say to use cat6.. they're usb 2.0 as well.. and some of them over $200.. which is crazy, at that point you're better off using mqtt or whatever

spare mural
grim igloo
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What in the world.. just buy a PoE coordinator

near echo
grim igloo
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You and your cloud shit lol

near echo
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🙂 but it works and maybe save some money, if one is only using the machine for HA

lucid sparrow
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the whole idea of having your noisey 1ru in the garage.. and your zigbee dongle inside the house, makes a lot of sense

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running an mqtt proxy or using the cloud, kinda complicates things

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i already have a reverse web proxy setup in docker, so I can access my stuff remotely with the app/browser

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i dont need cloud

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and if my internet goes down.. i still have my wifi/lan/zigbee and can control the stuff in my house

grim igloo
lucid sparrow
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i do now.. how does that compare to the sonoff P dongle im using?

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right now im $30 (aud) in for the sonoff p dongle .. and it was $2 for the passive extender.. this glitches out very occasionally, which is admittedly annoying

grim igloo
lucid sparrow
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i just paid around $34 (aud) for the active usb 1.1 extender.. in theory, this should have enough bandwidth for the dongle, and should work.. im going to find out when it finally arrives from china

grim igloo
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I moved from p dongle to the link above

lucid sparrow
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if it still causes me dramas, then im going to buy one of those, and forget about this whole saga. Hehe.

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im bookmarking that

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at least i can confirm the passive dongle works.. but 30m might be right on the limit

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active says it works up to 60

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25m would probably work fine 😐

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(for passive)

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beauty of poe is it obviously supplies the power.. and will go a lot further

grim igloo
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Yeah idk man I wouldn’t even try long range usb

lucid sparrow
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sick.. and it comes in white.. which is the same colour as my wall

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its like its meant to be 😛

grim igloo
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Well you can 3d print your own case

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I have stl files for one with holes to mount on a wall if you need

lucid sparrow
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i just duct taped mine to the wall 😂

grim igloo
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Sadcat

lucid sparrow
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its a metal wall and the resin wont ruin the paint

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ive already checked it comes off safely

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if you say you have the stl files.. i could probably make it like the ikea stuff so it has a magnet in it

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and it just sticks to the wall with a magnet.. that would be rad

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what is the EFR32?

grim igloo
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For zha only

lucid sparrow
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does it support more than 50 devices?

grim igloo
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Why lol

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Both chipsets support hundreds

lucid sparrow
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right so that just means 50 directly connected

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they daisy chain or whatever

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i am using zha currently.. im just wondering why you would use one over the other

grim igloo
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If you use zha then you can buy either one

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I’m not sure of the ‘benefit’ other than thread support in the future

lucid sparrow
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im kinda of the opinion if i need thread support i'll worry about that later

grim igloo
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If I need that I’ll add another dongle or use thread border routers or something idk. More I learn less I like about thread and matter

lucid sparrow
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right.. at the moment, i use predominately zigbee and wifi, and there's little incentive to use anything else

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in my garage I have an ewelink ethernet hub, and that works using the sonoff integration.. i understand that's kind of a crappy way to do it, and limits me to sonoff devices

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but i only have one temperature sensor and door sensor in there anyway

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so I don't really care 😂

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oh and the light switch

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a future project could be to flash that gateway with a custom firmware, and then use it with mqtt

grim igloo
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Idk what that is but it sounds gross

lucid sparrow
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i have a whole bunch of ewelink/sonoff stuff anyway

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mostly door/window switches and temp senders.. and light switches

grim igloo
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The only thing sonoff I’d buy is the p dongle myself

lucid sparrow
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plus some ikea bulbs and remotes

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right, doing it this way allows you to use tuya stuff as well

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with the dongle that is.. connected to zha

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in the garage with its proprietary ewelink gateway.. no

grim igloo
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Ah I refuse to use tuya as well

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You get real weird with it lol

lucid sparrow
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i would like to have a door lock thats zigbee one day

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im sick of manually locking and unlocking my front door 😂

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but it has to be retrofitted to a sliding door.. and ugh

grim igloo
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I use zwave locks and light switches and zigbee bulbs and sensors

lucid sparrow
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sounds reasonable.. i already have a bunch of the sonoff wifi/zigbee switches.. and every bulb is zigbee

grim igloo
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Yea

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Idk much about good zigbee locks tho

vital ermine
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After some update a while ago I've been getting this. It is actually stopping scripts all together in stead of continuing with the rest...

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Failed to send request: device did not respond```
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Yes the light went offline, but why not continue with the rest of the lights and furthermore the whole rest of the script

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Its new and verrrry annoying

calm valve
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Here's an odd one. My ZigBee plug of about 3 years, used to monitor my tumble dryer, seemingly cuts off the power now?

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Worked good as gold up until yesterday then I thought the tumble dryer had packed in. Took the Zigbee plug out of the connection and we are good to go...?

violet dagger
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the relay most likely died if the plug is still operational Zigbee wise

mossy osprey
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Is there a way to tell the battery devices to always check in and stop falling asleep?

violet dagger
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no

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they do that to conserve battery

calm valve
violet dagger
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relay no worky no more

calm valve
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Hahabahabab

violet dagger
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but plug still on zigbee network

calm valve
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Aye, sorry. That was a stupid question. Maybe I should just reread the answer haha

austere patio
vital ermine
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Thank you

pseudo forum
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Someone mentioned that aqara devices will only connect to the first router it hears. I just ordered a "HIMOJO" scene controller. I think it's a tuya thing. Will that "travel" well within my house or will it latch on to one router and only talk to that router?

violet dagger
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Tuya and Aqara are different ecosystems

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Himojo is just a random assembly of letters pretending to be a brand which is, as you said, likely Tuya

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With Tuya you never know

sour shadow
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You know that it's going to be an adventure 😛

violet dagger
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Maybe if you reveal what device you're looking at more information will be available

wind marsh
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I have Smartthings which I have integrated with HA. I really like the Ikea buttons but the integration with Smartthings doesn't work so I bought a SkyConnect which apparently works well with Ikea stuff. Now that I'm reading the install instructions it asks if I want to create a new network or migrate an existing one.

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Which got me thinking, if I make a new network I need to then get more plugs to act as repeaters to get full home coverage. But is there a way to have this work with my existing Smartthings network so I can leverage all the repeaters I'm using for that?

violet dagger
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no

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you either move all of them to skyconnect or not

wind marsh
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I see, thanks.

grim igloo
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Which in general is a good thing to do anyways

wind marsh
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Would wall outlet repeaters count as a router?

grim igloo
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If it follows zigbee spec yea which most do

wind marsh
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I had no idea, thanks

grim igloo
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Do you actually mean smart plugs or outlets?

wind marsh
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Smart plugs

grim igloo
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I’ve seen zero outlets in the us only eu

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And they’re Chinese designed and manufactured which is a hard no

wind marsh
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I'm in the UK and yeah, I have seen some for sale

violet dagger
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outlets also route since they need to be mains powered

wind marsh
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Is there a way to visualize my zigbee network and see the signal strength at different devices?

grim igloo
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There’s a network map but it’s not 100% accurate

wind marsh
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I'm wondering if I've gone overkill with smart plugs 🙂

grim igloo
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That’s what mine looks like or did a while back

grim igloo
wind marsh
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Green means not mains powered?

grim igloo
wind marsh
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Well, I did just to be safe. Never said I was smart 🙂

grim igloo
wind marsh
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I assumed even if a device had signal, more coverage would mean better battery life.

violet dagger
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somewhat correct assumption but not a rule

wind marsh
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Now I need to decide if I have a 4th Zigbee network or not. Everything with HA is a rabbit hole.

violet dagger
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you didnt need the 2nd or 3rd to begin with

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unless you're testing things

wind marsh
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Well, two are hue bridges

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And the other is Smartthings

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I was running HA on TrueNAS Core before and USB passthrough didn't work or was a bitch to set up so Smartthings was good enough

grim igloo
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Why do you hate yourself?!

violet dagger
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ah, the thorny road of compromises leads to 4 separate zigbee networks

wind marsh
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I don't mind Hue tbh

grim igloo
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you can completely remove hue bridges from interfering

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and just have one big zigbee mesh

wind marsh
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I will probably at some point but it was the first smart home product I got and I quite like the app

grim igloo
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the app sucks balls yo

wind marsh
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I'm an Android user so can't use iConnectHue

grim igloo
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what

wind marsh
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And I'm bad at making dashboards so until I learn that, I'm going to stick with it

violet dagger
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do you even use home assistant?

grim igloo
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you're really doing everything wrong lol

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according to google iconnecthue combines multiple hue bridges to control cuz hue cant make a fucking bridge that will work with hundreds of devices

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i think you need to do some research, ask yourself some hard questions, and redo every-fucking-thing-you-have-setup

thorn kelp
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Why do you hate yourself?

violet dagger
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shhh, its fine... The Hue demands it!

grim igloo
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"i can save him"

thorn kelp
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@austere patio good news and bad news..

Good: you were somewhat correct. Ch15 was congested, Ch25 was giving me values of 2-20 on the energy scan, avg value over ~20 scans/4hrs was ~11 (ch15 was >40)

Bad: Having less <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102> but it's still significantly more than last week with the Sonoff coordinator.

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also, on the beta channel now per your suggestion

wind marsh
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I don't have problems with Hue at the moment so I'm prioritizing things that are problems for me. I'm sure doing everything ZHA is better but I just don't need it right now.

grim igloo
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we never said zha lol