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river scarab
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Which is, I believe, a rebadged Tuya TS011F

austere patio
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See if you can try some other router. Also, try to "reconfigure" the device from the device screen. It may take a few attempts. If this process fails initially when you join the device to your network, the device won't report attribute changes (e.g. the current temperature).

hidden canopy
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Hi, I am looking for some advice for a new user. At the spur of the moment I bought an IKEA Vindstyrka yesterday, which apparently is a Zigbee device. Right now, I am running Home Assistant as a VM image, but I wanted to installed it on my Synology NAS, but no luck there. So I am looking for a device that can both

  1. Allow Vindstyrka to connect to HA
  2. Run a Home Assistant server 24/7.
rapid dawnBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

sour shadow
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Tube sells network connected Zigbee coordinators

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Then where you run HA doesn't matter

hidden canopy
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So a CC2652/CC1352 USB device would solve 1 above (connecting the device to HA), but it does not allow running HA server, or does it?

sour shadow
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No, it's purely about Zigbee

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There's no one device (other than the Yellow, but just don't) that is a PC and has a Zigbee radio

hidden canopy
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haha, i take it i should not ask about the yellow

sour shadow
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Using a network connected coordinator allows you to run HA anywhere you want - VM, NAS, toaster

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The Yellow is a Pi4 (and almost impossible to buy), there's better hardware for the same price

hidden canopy
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in their infinite wisdom synology dropped support for docker on my NAS, so I want to find another host

sour shadow
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VM?

hidden canopy
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i run a vm on my windows machine right now, works well, but not anything i will have running 24/7

sour shadow
hidden canopy
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i have a raspberry pi 2b which i understand is too weak

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ok, so i will get a zigbee device from the list you shared

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and solve the hosting of the ha server separately

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many thanks!

median raft
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I'm also just getting set up and would like to run this on a Pi or something, but they don't seem to be all that available at the moment so I'd like to run it on an M1 Mac Mini instead (probably running in a docker container) - I looked around various of these pages to see if these sticks are compatible with apple silicon but didn't see anything one way or the other... anyone got any war/success stories?

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I have HA happily running in Docker on that machine already, I guess I'm just wondering if the USB sticks are compatible with the apple silicon hardware

sour shadow
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The sticks don't care about the CPU in your computer

median raft
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I would hope/expect so, but it's not always the case

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cool

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thanks

finite quest
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orange pi maybe?

median raft
molten linden
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the serial connection is over tcp

river scarab
median raft
# molten linden the serial connection is over tcp

ok I'm a little new to this but that sounds like it means that instead of taking my Mac Mini and plugging a zigbee coordinator USB stick into it, I could take a network connected coordinator, plug it into a switch, then tell my HA install to use it? It sounds like this device is taking the zigbee network events and forwarding them over TCP to some client(s), so I assume there's some latency in this (though if it's push/socket vs polling then it's probably negligible). Am I on the right track?

molten linden
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yes. there is no noticeable latency. as the serial connection is very low bandwidth, and is constantly connected. In a way its like using socat on a remote host to forward a serial port. in the case of my products they use an ethernet connected esp32 to run the serial over tcp.

median raft
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gotcha, cool

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so I guess you just need one of these per zigbee network, but you could also flash them as routers if you had a PoE switch and a place with no AC power but wanted to extend the zigbee network? I have a PoE switch in my attic and ethernet cable is much lighter and safer than running romex so this would actually be quite useful if it can indeed do that

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I plan to have around 100 zigbee bulbs, 50 zigbee switches, ~50 door sensors, ~100 misc other zigbee devices on this network: my Hue systems are not scaling well as I add more devices - how does this thing perform with a few hundred nodes?

molten linden
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One coordinator per network. Yes you can flash any of the coordinators as routers but the ethernet connection would not be used other than for power in the case of the PoE version

median raft
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yea makes sense

molten linden
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there are people who used them without problem with 100+ devices. I used one and hover around 140-150 connected devices.

median raft
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cool, thanks for the answers. So now I understand what Tinkerer meant by using one of those - the fact that my CPU arch is apple silicon is irrelevant if I also use a network connected coordinator, as all the Mac now needs to be able to do is speak is TCP 👌🏻

molten linden
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I have a test set up of HA running in UTM on a M1 mac mini, and it runs the natively on the M1, and flies. (off topic)

median raft
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I see pros and cons - it's nice that you can hot-swap the HA instance if the Mac dies (just boot up the docker container elsewhere and feed it the config), but it's also another thing that can break (hopefully also fairly hot-swappable) 🤷🏻‍♂️ seems like there are cases where the NCC is the preferred option (the PoE cases for example), but in my case it probably doesn't matter much as the USB stick should be compatible with my M1

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I think the key for me is probably the performance as I want to support hundreds of devices with significantly sub-second latencies - I guess the USB sticks must have something similar to the esp32 doing the same job translating zigbee events (except just translating to USB instead of TCP), so that could be a bottleneck for those devices

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one other thing that comes to mind is that I would have more freedom to locate a network connected coordinator centrally in the house - I'm probably overthinking this but a centrally located coordinator plus ethernet to a HA server might outperform a USB stick directly connected to the HA server if that server is located at the edge of the network. Maybe that makes a difference if there are hundreds of nodes in the zigbee network 🤷🏻‍♂️

lofty junco
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that's too sad :/ The workaround i have found online is to connect to the lamp via bluetooth from the smartphone-app, create a few gradient-scenes, and then there is some command i beliebe with that you can enable those scenes via HA... But custom settings via HA i haven't found yet sadly x_x

crimson phoenix
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good afternoon, can anyone help me, my sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb dougle plus device is not recognized in the homeassistant
how do i solve this problem?

violet dagger
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You go through the troubleshooting steps for your Zigbee integration

astral seal
quiet marsh
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works great, but cant change colors on the fly

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maybe in the future!

lofty junco
acoustic berry
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Hi all, what Zigbee smoke alarm would you recommend? I need 3 new ones which preferably can be linked to each other (in HA?). And I’d like to use the siren function for my home alarm (also HA) too.
Thanks!

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Oh I use Conbee II w/ ZHA

violet dagger
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One that is conforming to your country/local smoke alarm regulations

acoustic berry
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Gotcha, so I would need time research something on Dutch laws first. On it!

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So CE marking and some NEN norm

heady kayak
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just make sure it doesn't depend on your HA to function.

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if your power is out, your smoke alarms should still work.

shy plaza
half cradle
lucid sparrow
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have any of you experimented with passive USB extenders?

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I have 30m cat5e that im using at the moment.. and my ZigBee drops out maybe once a day something like that.. I have to replug the device and reload zha

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so I am going to try replacing that cable with cat 7

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because it's triple shielded and has thicker conductors etc.. less loss in theory

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if that turns out to be a waste I'll use it for something else like a 10gb nic

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USB over twisted pair presumably has different performance / loss characteristics when compared with ethernet I don't know

sour shadow
sick lynx
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Hello! I have bought a frient Motion Sensor Pro and I've managed to add it to ZHA (using SkyConnect dongle) and I can manually read values from it under Manage Zigbee Device, but it does not provide any entities, is there anything I can do to create entities manually and bind the to the correct value on the sensor?

ember valve
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Is there a way to enable Automatic Re-send in some way? I have some devices that are far away and it's kind of a 50/50 if they will hear the command, so I find myself adding 5x commands with 1 sec wait between being sent in my automations for them, and that seems to work fine. But it would be pretty nice if there was an option to have Home Assistant just continuously re-send previous orders if they're not received, but I can't seem to find an option for this. Does anyone know if there is, or if there's maybe some plugin or something that does this?

violet wave
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I have this message every 2 seconds :

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2023-08-15 14:53:49.600 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] Received command mac_poll[5, <DeconzAddress address_mode=AddressMode.NWK address=0x7889>, 255, -65]

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I identified the device but it doesn't have a poll control cluster

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weird thing is that I have about 20 similar devices but only a handful of them exhibit this behavior

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it's poluting the zigbee network with useless messages. is there a way to fix this ?

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sometimes resetting the device just works

astral seal
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The solution to that is to add some router devices between the "far away" devices and your coordinator

ember valve
ember valve
astral seal
ember valve
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I already have put a pretty big one on it. Everything works perfectly if I just add 5x do-wait actions in my automations, just a shame there's no easier built-in way of doing this software wise, seems like it would be useful. In my mind it makes sense for HA to have a set of like "wished states", and for it then to continuously send out signals on repeat until the real states match that.

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Anyways, thanks for the help

half cradle
broken talon
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Hi! I'm trying to get zigbee2mqtt to work on the Yellow. Interviewing works, but any command gets timed out (both get and set). Any ideas what might cause this?

austere patio
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Only the Conbee reports this info if I remember correctly, other coordinators just don't bother notifying the application when it happens

austere patio
shy plaza
sick lynx
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Hello I have bought a `frient Motion

violet dagger
bold plume
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Hello, I am trying to set up a smart temperature automation.

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Devices:
zigbee switch [Connected to a Infared heating panel]
multiple zigbee thermometers
Ikea styrbar

What I would like to do is being able to use the Ikea styrbar for temperature control [set: Set temperature to *C [in 1C increments, min/max 18-25C], meaning the room will heat to said temperature]

So if I press Bright-UP. set temperature goes up with 1.
if I press bright-down set temperature goes down with 1

Combined with a automation, I want to be able to heat the room to *C. with the Ikea switch acting like a override. for the set temperature in the automation.

I want to control the temperature in such a way that I can always override it trough a smart button

sullen hull
tall tusk
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as a newb how do i diag my own issues, how do i read logs or what logs should i read?

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some how i keep breaking ZHA even tho i did nothing protaining to it

nocturne vigil
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you can enable debug logging on the ZHA integration page and then disable it after your issue occurs and then read the log it downloads

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Im also relatively new though so there may be better ways - ive just upgraded to use zigbee2mqtt and portainer which has much better logging and is very clear when issues arise

tall tusk
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its 19mb of text how do i narroe it down?

nocturne vigil
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search for key phrases such as "warning" or "error"

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so like id go to the first "error" mention and read what it was etc

digital thunder
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Hey guys, question: I have a hard time adding devices through any other hub other than my main zigbee controller (connected via USB) I try adding things "through" other devices, but it often hangs on "configuring" device. Any advice?

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It'll work very occasionally, but most of the time it just doesn't. I tried moving the device to my main usb connected thing, then moving it to where it'll live forever, hoping it'll eventually figure out it's moved. Will that work?

sour shadow
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What coordinator?

digital thunder
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Sorry, I'm not 100% on the lingo, the coordinator is the usb connected thing?

sour shadow
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Yes

digital thunder
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Uh Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus

sour shadow
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P or E

digital thunder
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If that's the last letter in the model number, it's E

sour shadow
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ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT?

digital thunder
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zha

sour shadow
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And the stick is on a USB cable?

digital thunder
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Yes. To be fair, it's in the same room as my wifi router,.

sour shadow
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How far away?

digital thunder
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From the device I'm trying to pair,... on the other side of the 1500 square foot house.

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But I have.... 4 plug repeater things in between

sour shadow
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From the coordinator?

digital thunder
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Yes

sour shadow
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How far away from the coordinator is the WiFi router

digital thunder
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OH, 10 feet?

sour shadow
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Ok, and did you check that your Zigbee channel is clear of WiFi?

digital thunder
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No, I don't know how to do that

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I'll google

sour shadow
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The pinned messages are also your friend

digital thunder
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Ok thank you.

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I live near nobody so I shouldn't have any issues telling my router which channel to use (away from the zigbee channel)

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Ah zigbee is on channel 11, but my 2.4 ghz wifi is on channel 1

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So it... shouldn't... have interference

sour shadow
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Did you look at the pins?

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You should, there's a pretty image there that'll help you

digital thunder
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OH, sorry no... I thought zigbee was ALWAYS on channel 11, my mistake, I'll actually read

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Crap, ok, so I probably DO have interference. Now the question is, which is easier, changing the wifi channel or the zigbee channel. I think I'll try the former as that shouldn't mess with my zigbee network, and the wifi devices should be smart enough to figure it out.

sour shadow
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Changing WiFi is easier

digital thunder
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I wish I had a rtl-sdr thing that would work up at 2.4 and 5 ghz so I could actually SEE the signals, instead of all the terrible apps that try to do the same thing. (I know the apps are better on android, but that's not an option for me.)

brittle vale
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Hi I have a question? What do you guys use for a zigbee hub? Because I saw people with those usb sticks but does that work for all zigbee devices?

sour shadow
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Yes, they do

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(or more accurately, ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT do)

tall tusk
blazing mango
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Found my answer: Apparently most Zigbee temperature sensors can read read up to about 125c, it's just that the devices as a whole tend to only be rated to withstand 40 to 60c max.

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And unless you use a high-temp coin cell, the battery iteself will generally only be rated to withstand 70c

brisk haven
lucid sparrow
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im using a cat 7 cable as a usb extender.. just to see if that makes any difference 😂

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it probably wont.. but i have debugging enabled anyway

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what i can say for the moment is it is at least equivalent to the cat5e.. as in.. its detected and working

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i can use that for something else later anyway like my access point or workstation with 10gbe etc

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but if this fixes the problem.. 🤔

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then i will just keep using it

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and claim some sort of passive usb extension prize

lucid sparrow
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nope when i looked at the debug log its due to a command timeout to the light in the garage.. its right on the edge

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if you try to access it a few more times the whole device drops out

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but other devices will continue to work prior to that happening

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but 8 times out of 10 it works fine

lucid sparrow
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fixed it with a zigbee ethernet hub in my garage.. 🤦‍♂️

sullen hull
brisk haven
sullen hull
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can de E version be flashed as the router? cause i can only find cordinator firmware for it

brisk haven
sullen hull
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thnx

rapid dawnBOT
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@frank hare I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
warped rose
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I have some aqara temp/humidity pucks, and they seemed to work well at first, but now they will just drop off the mesh and become unavailable after only a few days. I don't think it's all bad batteries?? seems unlikely. Anyone else have some issue like this?

mighty river
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I have created 2 non-overlapping zha groups but when I add the group as a switch things go bonkers. A subset of lights in the other group go on/off, and if I toggle the other group similar stuff happens. I have conbee II, 4 ikea outlets in one group and 3 ikea floalt panels in the other. Any ideas?

fleet lodge
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Selling a few of our bed sensors B2C via link above! Working on GitHub repo to list .ota images + Z2M / ZHA converters! If y'all know anyone who may be interested in monitoring elderly, babies or athletic performance, please think of me! Thank you again to all who helped here 🙌

tough cypress
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Hi, i have a dumb question, but is there a way to force connect a device to a certain router ? because one of my devices is connected to another which is 10 meters away from him and a rooter device is just nexto it like 10cm away, and the router can still have like 31 device on his node

sour shadow
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You can pair it through that router

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Whether it sticks or not ... shrug

tough cypress
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i don't have the button connect device from this router button

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ho wait i'm just dumb

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i didn't see the three little dot and on clicking on it i saw the button xD

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my bad sorry guys x)

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hum i think i got an issue, i paired the device with the router i wanted, but it still connect to the old router 10 m away from him :/

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i'm still new to zigbee so i maybe forgot a step to do idk

strange drum
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I have a Samsung SmartThings Zigbee hub, it's connected via ethernet to my network.
Is it possible to use this with Home Assistant?

thorn stratus
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Hey i have a question,my sigbee doogle plus is pluged to my raspberry on wich is running HA,but it do not detect it

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Any idea ?

violet wave
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and the 20 other same devices I have (same fw etc) don't do it

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so maybe a firmware bug that triggers this I guess ? I'd need to find a fw upgrade but it's a tuya thing

lucid sparrow
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seems to be hard to find very bright gu10 zigbee bulbs.. and these seem to do the trick, but when I pair them to a SONOFF ZB Dongle-E.. they instantly turn on, instead of fade on like the ewelink/ikea ones 🤔

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i wonder if that might be a firmware thing? perhaps i should try their app or whatever

tardy zinc
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I got a "cariboulite" SDR that can go pretty high in frequency, but the software is buggy as heck, so I can't tell if a given signal is a wifi signal or what. I still need to find a better place for the Zigbee radio, it's at 80% channel usage on channel 25.

lucid sparrow
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ever since i switched the devices in my garage to a sonoff ethernet hub, via the sonoff integration.. my zigbee has been stable.. touch wood

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unfortunately I lose local access to that, unless I flash it with esphome or tasmota firmware.. and im not super motivated to do that for a door switch, a light and a temperature sensor in the garage

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if it grows in complexity and i end up wanting non sonoff/ewelink branded devices, that could be rainy day project

thorn stratus
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Hey and i Also unable to flash the USB,each time it tells me its not in pairing mode event if it is

random crow
rapid dawnBOT
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@random crow Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

sour shadow
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I added the device to the container, but I don't know how I could use it.
To which container?

split peak
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Hey folks - I have a house with a decent sized zigbee network using HA and zigbee2mqtt. On my property, I also have a barn which is too far away to relay the zigbee signals, but does have wired ethernet available. I've been thinking about the possibility of setting up some additional zigbee stuff out there, but I'd need to have a second controller for them because of the range. What would be a good way to go about this, but be able to integrate it with my existing HA setup?

sour shadow
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Plus, as mentioned already, a network connected coordinator

mystic zealot
split peak
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Huh - nifty. So the idea is that I'd run a second z2m service within HA, and instead of pointing at a USB device, I point at the IP?

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(sorry - still a bit new to z2m and wrapping my head around it a bit)

mystic zealot
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Tink sent the link 😉

split peak
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<heh> Yeah - that topic just says "use different base_topic and channel". I'm new enough that I need a little more info than that. 🙂

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Mostly, I don't understand how I'd add a second z2m to HA

mystic zealot
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well considering you already have it setup, adding that to the config should be easy 😉

sour shadow
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Base topic is an MQTT setting in Z2M

split peak
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Right, but I already have Z2M set up and using a zigbee device. I guess what I'm confused about is how to add a second one (once I have the device, of course)

mystic zealot
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yes, so you change the channel on the new adapter to something other than the one you're using

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and what Tink said

balmy fossil
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I have two Sonoff Zigbee dongle plus. One is old and is working as a coordinator of my Zigbee mesh. The other one is brand new. I want to reflash one of them as a coordinator (with the newest version of the firmware as the existing one has quite an old one), and flash the other one as a relay. Is there a way of doing that without need to re-pair all my zigbee nodes?

sour shadow
split peak
molten linden
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run stable and edge z2m addons

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or run z2m and zha

split peak
molten linden
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can only one instance of an add-on

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another option which is more complicated is fork the z2m addon repo, and add your fork and install the second instance from there.

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but then you have to keep your fork up-to-date

sour shadow
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HAOS limits you, unfortunately

split peak
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That's a bummer. I went to HAOS because I was just running core in a docker container and wanted to make use of addons and such. I thought HAOS was the "best" option. 😄 Would there have been a better choice?

sour shadow
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Container gives you more choices

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Add-ons are just software running in Docker, for the Supervisor

half cradle
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Running Stable and Edge sounds enough

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easy*

proven mason
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hey can someone help me

mystic zealot
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maybe

proven mason
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trying to get my new sonoff ZBDongle-P installed to a vanilla HAOS install

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im just trying to get it configured using ZHA

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and i get an error

mystic zealot
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when you say vanilla do you mean fresh install? or bare metal

proven mason
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JUST ERROR, not explanation

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fresh install on a pi 4

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HAOS

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on an SSD

mystic zealot
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are you plugged into the usb3.0 port by chance?

proven mason
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yes

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is that bad?!

mystic zealot
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yeah

proven mason
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hahah omg

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why?

mystic zealot
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you want to use an extension cable and not plug the dongle into that port

proven mason
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i have a 3 foot extension

mystic zealot
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because of interference on the usb3.0 bus

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yeah that should work

proven mason
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so why the heck is it advertised as a 3.0 item?

mystic zealot
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because it is

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it's the rpi4 that's the problem

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not the dongle

proven mason
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but then i plug it into the 2.0 port

mystic zealot
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per se

proven mason
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ok

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let me go swap, brb

mystic zealot
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yeah use the 2.0 port and the extension cable

proven mason
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so another question

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what is HAOS in terms of installation method? its the preferred method right?

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i would much rather run this on an APU2, because i have a bunch of them

mystic zealot
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HAOS is the easy way

proven mason
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but whats the best way to get HAOS on something NOT A PI

astral seal
proven mason
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ok

mystic zealot
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is the apu2 x86? you could prolly use the generic install

proven mason
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yes

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but do i get all the bells and whistles?

mystic zealot
proven mason
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i just glossed over the install options

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ok, ill check that there thanks

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i did the swap, lets see if i can add dongle now

sour shadow
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Also, you may need a powered USB hub if you have an SSD and a Zigbee stick

proven mason
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oy vey

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ok

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i am using the big usb c charger u get from cannakit

sour shadow
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The Pi has limited power for the USB ports

proven mason
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so its gotta be decent amount of power

mystic zealot
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it won't matter

sour shadow
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The Pi has limited power for the USB ports

proven mason
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i see

mystic zealot
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powered usb hub is the go to for external SSD on an rpi

sour shadow
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Doesn't matter if you gave it a gigawatt supply, it can't use it all

proven mason
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anyone recommend a hub?

mystic zealot
proven mason
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great

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and i need to select "create a new network" right?

sour shadow
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They're very hard to fuck up badly

proven mason
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should i bail on the sonoff in general?

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is there a better zigbee antenna?

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im coming from a setup where i used the nortek and had major issues using zigbee channel 15

sour shadow
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Sonoff.... yeah, not always the best, the P can have issues

proven mason
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ok whats a better option?

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ill order it right now

sour shadow
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For ZHA, the Sonoff E is fine

proven mason
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this has taken me a month to deal with and i havent begun my migration of 100 devices yet

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im not wed to sonoff, i just got it because people said it was good

mystic zealot
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Im still saving up for a zigbee stick and device

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lol

astral seal
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If you already have it might as well try to get it working. I've been running a Dongle-P for like, a year and a half? And it's fine, I just keep it far away from any USB 3 ports and SSDs.

mystic zealot
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yeah I wouldn't ditch the stick, i'd ditch the rpi personally

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if you have the APU2's I'd use those personally, then not have to buy a stick or a hub

proven mason
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ditch which stick?

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the P?

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ive been trying for weeks to get it to work

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ok then im gonna use an APU2, gotta figure out best install method next

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its got two usb3 ports though!

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on the apu2

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i would still need the STICKS on the apu2 no?

sour shadow
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For now, just buy the powered USB hub

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That'll probably solve your problem

proven mason
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ok ordering one now

south mesa
proven mason
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well hmmmmmmmm

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maybe ill pivot to the apu2 anyway

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i can get that stood up in an hour

astral seal
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You should be able to use the "generic x86" installation method if you want to mess around getting it running on the apu2.

proven mason
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ok

mystic zealot
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echo

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lol

austere patio
hybrid vale
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I'm looking for a cheap zigbee LED light strip controller, is Gledopto good? I don't need addressable segments

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If so, is it worth getting the 2ID/"mix" model? It's not clear to me whether or not HA (ZHA with Sonoff dongle) supports this RGB with white mode

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And when buying a power supply, do I just have to look at the voltage of the strip and get one that matches?

sour shadow
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Gledopto are good

azure talon
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As far as I remember there was a link with recommended ZigBee Dongles for a raspi. However I can not seem to find it, can anyone help me or even just give me a quick recommendation?

rapid dawnBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

azure talon
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Thank you. What is the reason not to go with EFR32MG21 chips? They seem to be cheaper and newer from what I have seen on amazon

sour shadow
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They're fine for ZHA, hence The current generation of EZSP sticks

azure talon
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Alright, then I will go with one of those for now, there isn't a whole lot I need it for rn just want to get rid of the hue and ikea hubs rn

astral seal
proven mason
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hey guys, one more question

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im redoing my whole setup from an haos install with a nortek and going to a new haos with a sonoff zigbee and a 800 zwave

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my issue was that i was on channel 15 on the old ha and had issues with my wifi, it slowed it down potentially and had major reliability issues with zigbee devices going dead often

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so aside from putting my new sonoff on channel 25, what other things should i be doing before i migrate 100 devices

proven mason
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is there really a lot of credence to the concept of pairing zigbee devices in a particular order? router zigbee devices starting closest to the zigbee antenna?

astral seal
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You should definitely start by pairing all your router devices.

mighty river
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I paired everything in its own place, starting from routers ,no problems with any device.

austere patio
grizzled valve
mighty river
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hello, I try to install Zigbee2mqtt with a SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle version E and when I start the add on I have the following error:
[17:50:16] INFO: Preparing to start...
[17:50:16] INFO: Socat not enabled
[17:50:19] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT...
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-08-18 17:50:25: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-08-18.17-50-25' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-08-18 17:50:25: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.32.2 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-08-18 17:50:25: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.17.2)
Error: Reset error: Error: {"sequence":-1} after 10000ms
at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/uart.ts:299:23
at Queue.executeNext (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/queue.ts:32:32)
Do you know what is wrong in my configuration ?

ember dust
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Hey guys. I'm having trouble with my zigbee network and wanted to flash another Sonoff model ZBDongle-P as a router. I'm using the Smart RF Flasher. I've followed every instruction that I could find, but no matter what, the flash fails immediately and has an error. I've held down the boot button for 10 seconds, as I plugged it into the computer. Everywhere I've looked, nobody has any problem like this. Has anybody ever heard of this behavior?

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I'm trying to upload or paste a screenshot, but it seems that every section of this server has a different method or different rules. I first put this post in #hardware-archived and was able to just upload the screenshot, but in #zigbee-archived, I can't find a way to do it.

rapid dawnBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

sour shadow
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Just share the error, as text, it'll help people help you

ember dust
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Here's the error I'm getting. ```

Initiate access to target: COM4 using 2-pin cJTAG.
Reading file: C:/Users/efunc/Downloads/CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_router_20221102/CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_router_20221102.hex.
Unknown record type: 3.
Reset target ...
Reset of target successful```

sour shadow
mighty river
azure talon
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I now have my ZigBee dongle set up with ZHA and connected a Zigbee remote from symfonsik (ikea) to it. I want to use this remote now to control certain things however I don't understand yet how to react to the pressed buttons. I can see them in the logs but I don't see a way yet to use them in scripts. Where can I find resources to learn about that?

sour shadow
azure talon
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Thank you, I will try that then

sour shadow
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Automations are how you get HA to "react" to anything

ember dust
# sour shadow <https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/issues/428> <https://github.com/Koen...

I'm trying to follow the instructions from the links, but I don't know enough about cmd line to navigate to the correct folder. If I'm understanding correctly, I'm suppose to copy the dongle hex file to the srecord bin folder, then in cmd line navigate to the srecord bin folder and run this command ```

.\srec_cat.exe "CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_router_20221102.hex" -intel -o CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_router_20221102.bin -binary```

Do I have the correct understanding and what do I type in the cmd line, to get from C:\ to the srecord bin folder?

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I don't get it. I can type "cd windows\system32" and go to that folder, but typing neither "cd program files\srecord\bin", or "cd programfiles\srecord\bin" works.

molten linden
ember dust
dire owl
austere patio
dire owl
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thank you, sir I will be looking forward to that 🙂

uncut sorrel
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I checked the number of packets/minute on my zigbee network with 36 devices: https://ibb.co/hDDPnvN. Seems to be around 2000/min. Sounds a lot to me, what kind of values others are seeing?

dire owl
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How can you check that?

sour shadow
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About ... 15 a minute on average here, with over 90

astral seal
molten linden
uncut sorrel
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I need to try to filter per device. That's a lot of work, or maybe I could script it

uncut sorrel
uncut sorrel
sour shadow
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Yes

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A simple multi-hour average out of Z2M's logs

uncut sorrel
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Does Z2M log all the packets?

ember dust
molten linden
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it's in the docs, just put anything in there

sour shadow
dire owl
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Thanks! Looks like this won't work with ZHA.

foggy dagger
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Any thoughts why i have two ikea power plugs but both on different firmware, OTA shows both up to date. https://imgur.com/b5Pfweb

austere patio
# dire owl Thanks! Looks like this won't work with ZHA.

Enable debug logging in ZHA and look for packet. @uncut sorrel is using Wireshark with a sniffer, which will log every packet, including retries, ACKs, polling, and so on. The ZigBee stick on its own only will expose a fraction of this to Z2M or ZHA.

ember dust
# molten linden it's in the docs, just put anything in there

I'm not going to keep bothering you, but I did want you to see the error that I got when I tried to flash the dongle again. I'm beginning to wonder if I have a bad dongle or something. When I flashed my coordinator a couple of years back, I didn't have any of these problems. I've tried 4 or 5 different methods and nothing works. I keep running into different hurdles that I don't have enough knowledge to overcome. I tried one method that might work, but I couldn't figure out how to navigate in Windows cmd line to a specific folder. Anyway, here's the error.s6-rc: info: service banner successfully started s6-rc: info: service cc2652-flasher: starting [15:26:34] INFO: Triggering Bootloader mode on 192.33.54.10 [15:28:42] INFO: cc2652-flasher-up script exited with code 28 s6-rc: warning: unable to start service cc2652-flasher: command exited 28 s6-rc: info: service banner: stopping /run/s6/basedir/scripts/rc.init: warning: s6-rc failed to properly bring all the services up! Check your logs (in /run/uncaught-logs/current if you have in-container logging) for more information. /run/s6/basedir/scripts/rc.init: fatal: stopping the container. s6-rc: info: service banner successfully stopped s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: stopping s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully stopped s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs: stopping s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully stopped s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner: stopping s6-rc: info: service s6rc-oneshot-runner successfully stopped

molten linden
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did you select flash USB device?

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and pick the appropriate port?

ember dust
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I did, but maybe I shouldn't have selected anything else.

molten linden
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yeah don't select the bootloader option as that's only for network coordinators

ember dust
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I also selected "enable bootloader mode in ESPHome" and "flow control"

molten linden
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yeah don't enable any of those

ember dust
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ok, cool

molten linden
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make sure you hold the botton when plugging in the stick ahead of time too

ember dust
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That seems to have done it!

ember dust
orchid bluff
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Hello, I am trying to migrate my network from conbee2 to skyconnect, I am using ZHA, but I don’t even see the skyconnect stick in hardware and migration seems ok, but no device is working

ember dust
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Now that I've flashed my second Dongle-P as a router, how do I join it to my zigbee network? Is it automatically in pairing mode when it's plugged in?

molten linden
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yes

ember dust
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Thanks

orchid bluff
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Tried it several times and got the same result… I don’t seem to find any information on why skyconnect would not appear under hardware

austere patio
orchid bluff
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yes

austere patio
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And you were able to migrate with ZHA's migration flow?

orchid bluff
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yes

austere patio
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Did you read the warning about Conbee firmware versions?

orchid bluff
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no errors

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I did 😄

austere patio
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If you have an old Conbee, it doesn't let you read some network settings so you won't be able to transmit data to devices until they're power cycled

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PM me/upload somewhere the debug logs for ZHA as well

orchid bluff
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thank you very much for your help

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I will retry and enable the debug logs

austere patio
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You don't need to migrate again if it worked the first time

orchid bluff
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one thing I don't really understand, until the ZHA setup is complete should the stick be visible under hardware?

austere patio
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Depends on how you're running Home Assistant. It usually is. If the ZHA migration worked at all, the stick is 100% functional.

orchid bluff
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running HAOS

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on RPI4

ember dust
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Man that dongle has some power!

karmic kelp
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if i Bind a remote to a lamp the remote wont work anymore in hass?

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because it seems like that

karmic kelp
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I have the E1743 Ikea switch, I was wondering if its possible to make this switch control/on/off/dim the nearby light?

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i read about Touchlink

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I think my coordinator does support this, EFR32MG21 based

austere patio
karmic kelp
karmic kelp
austere patio
karmic kelp
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ahh ok

karmic kelp
austere patio
karmic kelp
mellow geode
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You need to bind it through the "Manage Zigbee device" -> "binding" UI

karmic kelp
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yes thats where I did it

mellow geode
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can you check sw_build_id on the Basic cluster? (you'll need to press a button on the remote to read the attribute)

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ah, nvm. You're using Z2M and not ZHA

karmic kelp
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yes z2m

mellow geode
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But still check the sw_build_id/firmware version

karmic kelp
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the fw version of the switch is the latest i.e 24.4.6

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can i not upload images here hm

mellow geode
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Using Z2M, can you also bind it to the coordinator?

mellow geode
karmic kelp
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unless im misinterpreting this UI, it seems to be binded to the coordinator by default
ill upload one sec

mellow geode
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Bind LevelCtrl and OnOff on the coordinator

karmic kelp
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oh that worked
thanks

mellow geode
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nice!

karmic kelp
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it seems like updating the fw on this was a mistake, it can only be binded to specific devices not a group
so i cant mass control a bunch of lights w/o z2m/hass involvement...rip

mellow geode
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Yeah, that feature was removed in newer firmware versions. You should be able to bind it to multiple devices though

karmic kelp
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ooh, thanks

main ruin
#

Does any of you know what the expected range of one of those USB sonoff gateways is supposed to be?

austere patio
main ruin
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Hm so I probably will need an additional router to cover the second floor

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I suppose this will be a simple drop in if it figures out the mesh on its own

austere patio
astral seal
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Should be pretty easy to get that second floor covered, especially if there's somewhere approximately directly above where your stick is that you can put a bulb (not Sengled) or a smart plug.

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I have a Zigbee bulb in my attic light, which is probably about the same distance, maybe a little further, and same type of physical barriers as you've got in your situation and it works fine.

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Actually it's kind of right above where my HVAC is so it's got a big chunk of metal to possibly interfere with it and even so, no issues.

bold silo
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Hey everyone! I have a question. I have a THIRDREALITY zigbee motion sensor which I have configured via my Abode alarm integration.
The sensor works fine with the Abode alarm, but in HA it’s always in the “detected” state. If I manually set the state in HA to “off”, the it shows as clear, and next time it detects movement, it stays in detected again.
I have removed the sensor from HA and Abode, but the same thing keeps happening. Any idea how to fix this?
My HA (latest version) is running on an Oracle VM on a windows desktop

sour shadow
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How is that sensor connected to HA? Through Abode?

bold silo
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Yes, I use Abode as the zigbee hub.
I keep the security notifications and alarms in Abode, and then the integration with HA for other automations

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I have one original Abode sensor, that works flawlessly in HA. And was looking for cheaper sensor that would work, so I grabbed the thirdreality sensor during prime deals. Works fine with Adobe, but stays in detected state in HA

sour shadow
bold silo
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OK OK, I thought it could be, I’ll post the questions there. Thanks! 🙂

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I looked into somehow manually set the state (maybe via an automation triggered by detecting movement, after some seconds), but I would rather fix whatever is not working if possible instead

mighty river
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I need help, something extremely weird is going on with my Zigbee2MQTT add-on and one particular light bulb

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Z2M seems to be publishing about 10 messages per second to it to update the lamp's state (I guess it's the Adaptive Lighting causing it) which is spamming my Z2M logs. I assume that's not how it's supposed to be

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"'{"brightness":254,"color_mode":"color_temp","color_temp":200,"last_seen":"2023-08-20T11:48:56+02:00","linkquality":3,"power_on_behavior":null,"state":"ON"}'
info 2023-08-20 11:48:56MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/innr_lampe_arbeitszimmer_w', payload '{"brightness":254,"color_mode":"color_temp","color_temp":200,"last_seen":"2023-08-20T11:48:56+02:00","linkquality":3,"power_on_behavior":null,"state":"ON"}'
debug 2023-08-20 11:48:57Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/innr_lampe_arbeitszimmer_w/set' with data '{"state":"ON","transition":1.0,"brightness":254,"color_temp":189}'
debug 2023-08-20 11:48:57Publishing 'set' 'brightness' to 'innr_lampe_arbeitszimmer_w'
debug 2023-08-20 11:48:58Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/innr_lampe_arbeitszimmer_w/set' with data '{"state":"ON","transition":1.0,"brightness":254,"color_temp":189}'
debug 2023-08-20 11:48:58Publishing 'set' 'brightness' to 'innr_lampe_arbeitszimmer_w'
info 2023-08-20 11:48:59MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/innr_lampe_arbeitszimmer_w', payload '{"brightness":254,"color_mode":"color_temp","color_temp":200,"last_seen":"2023-08-20T11:48:59+02:00","linkquality":10,"power_on_behavior":null,"state":"ON"}'
debug 2023-08-20 11:48:59Publishing 'set' 'transition' to 'innr_lampe_arbeitszimmer_w'
debug 2023-08-20 11:48:59Publishing 'set' 'color_temp' to 'innr_lampe_arbeitszimmer_w'
debug 2023-08-20 11:48:59Requested color_temp 189 is lower than minimum supported 200, using minimum!
info 2023-08-20 11:48:59MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/innr_lampe_arbeitszimmer_w', payload '{"brightness":254,"color_mode":"color_temp","color_temp":200,"last_seen":"2023-08-20T11:48:59+02:00","linkquality":3,"power_on_behavior":null,"state":"ON"}'
debug 2023-08-20 11:48:59Publishing 'set' 'transition' to 'innr_lampe_arbeitszimmer_w'
debug 2023-08-20 11:48:59Publishing 'set' 'color_temp' to 'innr_lampe_arbeitszimmer_w'
debug 2023-08-20 11:48:59Requested color_temp 189 is lower than minimum supported 200, using minimum!"

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anyone know what's up and why this particular light bulb?

foggy solar
#

Anyone here using a Fingerbot?

unborn orbit
#

Any ideason this error with z2M when trying to OTA hue devices? Failed to check if update available for 'Bar Room Light Bulb' (localIndex.concat is not a function)

royal kettle
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I feel like my map is a clusterfuck. Is there a way to heal the mesh without manually removing and readding devices? I’m on zha

sour shadow
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You could power down the coordinator for 30 minutes

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Some devices will re-route after that, some won't

royal kettle
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Well better than nothing lol

sour shadow
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Are your devices working?

royal kettle
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Is there a way to remap individual devices without fully removing and readding?

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I have a few that are spotty

sour shadow
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You can just re-pair them via your chosen router

royal kettle
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I added a repeater but adding it after the fact doesn’t seem helpful

sour shadow
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Not every device will re-route, and even then only if the new route is "better"

royal kettle
sour shadow
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Well, don't use device triggers/actions and you're never at risk of that 😛

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However, simply enable pairing via the device, and re-pair it

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It should just reconnect via that router

royal kettle
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Would entity triggers fix that?

sour shadow
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State triggers, yes

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Devices are limited and problematic

royal kettle
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I’ll have to look at that

finite star
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Hello. I was recently pointed to the existance of the sonoff zbmini-l2. That device seems to fit my needs in the wiring. But as it is meant to switch zigbee bulbs i don't want those to loose connection to the grid. I saw that the bigger devices by sonoff have a "detach relay" feature. Does somebody know if this is available in the zbmini-l2 too?

astral seal
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Not a good device if you're wanting to switch smart bulbs.

finite star
astral seal
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Not any I'm aware of.

#

I believe some of the Aqara no neutral switches support decoupled mode, but that would be replacing the whole switch.

finite star
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ok damn

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so no zigbee bulbs with standard switches than?

sour shadow
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Generally no smart bulbs with dumb switches

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Sengled aren't routers, so you can "safely" cut the power, but you do that and you can't control them until they get power

finite star
sour shadow
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You can get modules that fit between the switch and the bulb

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Choices depend on where in the world you are

finite star
rapid dawnBOT
#

@finite star When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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No need to tag me to tell me that... you need to just tell the channel 😉

violet dagger
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There are Gira compatible Zigbee switches

finite star
finite star
sour shadow
violet dagger
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No

sour shadow
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@finite star ☝️

finite star
violet dagger
finite star
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better?

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Hm i fear those are far more expensive than some new bulbs

sudden yarrow
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The Friends of Hue ones are still not supported in ZHA, right?

violet dagger
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Why do people keep asking for recommendations for specific systems then complain it's more expensive than generics?

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Then just get a zigbee relayxand put it behind a switch

finite star
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I can't find one that i can use. Maybe I even just don't have the knowledge to find the right part and finding an eletrician who knows about smart home ist not that easy

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And the range of options is hard to oversee. actually that's why me( and i guess others) ask for help

finite star
violet dagger
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Finding an electrician that knows this is like finding a 🦄

finite star
violet dagger
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That's why I learned to do it myself

finite star
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It's just basically forbidden i germany. If you don't have a master degree in electronics and change your wiring you simply loose insurance coverage

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No way to do it myself

main ruin
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That's not really true

quiet ravine
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I just got the sonoff p dongle and installed z2m as HA addon, running on Raspi 4. It doesn't recognize any of my devices (tried with 3 different ones) during pairing mode. Even when I'm holding them right next to the antenna.
I've ordered an USB extension cable, but can the interference really be that big?

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(the 3 devices are supported by z2m)

sudden yarrow
quiet ravine
tight jungle
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Anybody use the IKEA Symfonisk Gen 2 sound remote? Interested in getting it for use with ZHA as it has 7 buttons, but wasn't sure how well it worked (think I saw something about a couple of the buttons not being supported/picked up?)

sudden yarrow
tight jungle
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Do all the buttons work for you and maybe I was just looking at an older issue someone mentioned?

sudden yarrow
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I was able to create 13 different triggers with it. Haven't realized anything not working.

tight jungle
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Perfect, thanks!

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I'm assuming single press on all + double press on all (except one)?

sudden yarrow
tight jungle
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Great info, thanks!

sudden yarrow
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But I haven't tried to look at the ZHA events in the developer tools yet. Maybe there is more usable to find.

tight jungle
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All of that is probably even more than I would need but I'll have to do some digging once I get my hands on one!

hard swift
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zigpy.zcl
['[0xE7D6:1:0x0000] Traceback (most recent call last):\n File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy/zcl/init.py", line 409, in reply\n return await self._endpoint.reply(\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy/endpoint.py", line 278, in reply\n return await self.device.reply(\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy/device.py", line 381, in reply\n return await self.request(\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy/device.py", line 293, in request\n await self._application.request(\n File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/zigpy/application.py", line 824, in request\n await self.send_packet(\n File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/bellows/zigbee/application.py", line 768, in send_packet\n status, _ = await self._ezsp.sendUnicast(\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\nAttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'sendUnicast'\n']
|--> 07:07:02 Tue, 22-Aug

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Help me if you know what the error is

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I just changed from Dongle-P to Dongle-E

strange harness
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Hello! I have been a long time nabu casa sub. I love the service! I am having a problem with my Zigbee2MQTT add-on. The addon start to act up. Lights not responding. I had the bright idea to change the zigbee channel within the Zigbee2MQTT add-on settings. Since then my Zigbee2MQTT add refuses to start up. To fix this problem, I reverted to a back up of my home assistant. I believe I did not in fact due the zigbee channel change properly? Oddly enough, my zigbee network still works but again acts up (lights take two to three times before responding, etc). I can see within the Zigbee2MQTT addon logs the MQTT messages regarding my zigbee network. However, the Zigbee addon fails to start up. Also I can't see within the addon logs what the problem is. There is no error messages that I can see regarding the fail to start. I only see the zigbee messages from my network.

strange harness
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nvm fixed it

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just need to update and restart the computer

maiden tartan
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Hi,
I migrated my ZHA network from sonoff dongle-e to skyconnect and it worked as expected.
Then I flashed a router firmware to the sonoff and plugged it in and connected it to the network.

Then I checked the visualization. The sonoff router is displayed as a rectangle and it has the device type coordinator. I cannot see the skyconnect in the visualization.
Why is the router seen as coordinator? Have I done anything wrong?
I was planning to improve my network, but now it seems that I have some kind of remote coordinator 🤷‍♂️

molten linden
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The original sonoff is sharing the same ieee address now. You need you can reflash to coordinator, download a backup and manually edit to change the ieee, the restore the backup and then reflash router fw.

maiden tartan
molten linden
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The migration writes the ieee from the original coord to the new one. It does reset the original but the duplicate ieee does present a new potential issue if reflash end as a router like you did

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you can do the backup/restore dance with zigpy-cli if you don't want to mess with your zha set up

maiden tartan
molten linden
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I'd let it be for now, change the ieee and re-write. you may have to manually edit some files to delete it or maybe puddly will see and have some ideas

bold nymph
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Hello everyone, I have an issue were some zigbee devices get stuck on a state at random times, like my aqara water leak sensor for some reason stuck on "leaking", my sonoff motion sensor stuck on "occupied", my aqara door sensor stuck on "closed" or sometimes "open" and they stay stuck untill I repair them back again.

All of these devices are in less than 2 meter distance from a router and have an average of 120 linkquality, what could be the issue?

Please ping me when answering, Thanks in advance

maiden tartan
molten linden
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just download one from the current coordinator config page, the backups are in the zigbee.db

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alternatively, flash the sonoff back to coord, use zigpy-cli to form a network, back it up edit, and restore all from cli

maiden tartan
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okay. I started with zigpy radio ezsp /dev/ttyACM0 info to try it out, but get an error. The path should be correct. Is ezsp correct?

near cypress
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Hi, i have a few Develco schuco power socket that all keep throwing some errors in the log. I believe the device "profile" is missing some details but not sure. Where would be the correct place to report this?

I can post the signature as well, but it was too long for a single message.

Error message:

Logger: zigpy.zcl
Source: runner.py:179
First occurred: August 21, 2023 at 15:04:03 (3544 occurrences)
Last logged: 15:41:35

[0xD257:1:0xfeed] Unknown cluster command 42 b''
[0xEE92:1:0xfeed] Unknown cluster command 42 b''

I have two of this device in this network and a few more in another network in another location. All throw the same warning.

olive flower
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Setting up a Phoscon Raspbee2 with Home Assistant

bold nymph
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Hello, I have a major issue, my zigbee network have been unstable for the past few days, I'm using z2m and sometimes a lot of the devices get stuck on a state and loses connection and I have to re pair them back, like for example my aqara door sensor gets stuck to "closed" or "open" until I remove it and pair it back again, my sonoff motion sensor gets stuck on "clear" or "occupied", same with my aqara water leak sensor, even though I literally have a router next to each one of them and all have an average linkquality of 120.

And now all of a sudden all of my zigbee devices stopped working, I can't control them at all! lights, ACs, switches, plugs, nothing! errors filled z2m, I tired to restart HA from developer tools and it didn't work, restarted the whole VM and still, for some reason updating to the latest update of HAOS somewhat fixed it, but I still get errors, very high delay. what logs should I look for to know what's wrong? here are some errors in the z2m logs page

2023-08-22 18:43:43Failed to read state of 'second-monitor.smartplug_desk' after reconnect (Read 0xa4c138273067efee/1 genOnOff(["onOff"], {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Timeout - 59494 - 1 - 16 - 6 - 1 after 10000ms))

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2023-08-22 19:26:32Publish 'set' 'state' to '3-gang.light-switch_kitchen' failed: 'Error: Command 0xa4c138edd7b14bb3/1 genOnOff.off({}, {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Timeout - 15998 - 1 - 30 - 6 - 11 after 10000ms)'

white knot
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Hello Zigbee experts, I was directed here after sending an email to the Nabu Casa support account. I purchased a SkyConnect dongle and I am trying to find a way to generate a Zigbee code for connecting a Zigbee 3.0 smart electricity meter. My energy provider says that this pairing code is required in order to reach their meter. From the docs I cannot find any way to generate this code. Can you assist me?

carmine hamlet
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As far as I know, neither ZHA nor Zigbee2MQTT support connecting to a power meter

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it's a completely different protocol (profile)

lilac wharf
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If I'm not mistaken, in general, the power meter is a coordinator itself as opposed to an end device

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In the US at least. Not sure about elsewhere

carmine hamlet
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Could be. All I know is that I have to unplug my Eagle Rainforest if I'm trying to pair an Inovelli Blue switch near the meter

lilac wharf
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Interesting

carmine hamlet
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there's some weirdo stuff going on there, described a bit on their forum

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lots of finger pointing

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but it's a reliable fix for me

lilac wharf
carmine hamlet
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only happens if the switch is somewhat near the meter & Eagle box

white knot
carmine hamlet
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my Inovelli Blue switches came with "install codes", but they have nothing to do with the energy profile

white knot
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According to the very friendly but not very helpful SmartMeter support folks at PG&E (California based electric company) they've had other folks with Zigbee 3.0 radios connect to the meters just fine after providing them with these codes.

carmine hamlet
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section 1.2 indicates that "ZSE" is different

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but I have no experience with PG&E

white knot
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Unfortunately that integration is poop with PG&E.

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They can only give you data 2 to 3 days after the power usage has passed, and even then it is spotty.

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Ok, well let's skip the power meter part of the question... Where does SkyConnect support the creation of "paring codes" for other Zigbee 3.0 devices?

carmine hamlet
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it's not a Skyconnect question, but the integration that you're using to control it

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ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT. And I don't know the answer to either

white knot
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AFAIK, the only option when installing that dongle was ZHA, since I got it to specifically enable Matter, but got the Zigbee part as a bonus.

carmine hamlet
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that thread is about a power meter

white knot
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So I need to dump ZHA and switch to Zigbee2MQTT?

carmine hamlet
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🤷

austere patio
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Install codes are just a Zigbee 3.0 feature. They let you join new devices more securely and are usually shown as a QR code on the box. It won't help with connecting to a smart meter, which requires a $10,000+ certificate. Pre-made devices such as that Eagle box have a certificate and are designed to join an existing smart meter's network, have you type in a code (or communicate directly with the power company), and then shuttle data to you. There's no way to do this with a SkyConnect or any other coordinator, and won't be.

carmine hamlet
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I'm not going to do any more Google searching 🙂

white knot
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OK, just so that I understand what I've gotten myself into here: I bought a piece of hardware from Nabu Casa and they sent me here for support. They don't support their own hardware?

austere patio
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What are you specifically trying to do with a SkyConnect?

carmine hamlet
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nothing that's occurred here indicates that

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it just sounds like you don't like the answer 🤷

white knot
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I don't have an answer that appears to be an answer is my point.

carmine hamlet
white knot
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🤷‍♂️ isn't an answer.

carmine hamlet
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alright, I'm out. you got your answer above

austere patio
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To connect to a smart meter, you need three things: an install code generated by your power company device, an expensive certificate that cannot easily be purchased, and software that can talk to your smart meter. Some power companies generate install codes so you can input them into a pre-made device (e.g. that Eagle box) but the latter two requirements aren't met.

white knot
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So it seems that the PG&E folks just don't know what they are talking about.

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Not surprising, but sad.

austere patio
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They probably do

white knot
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If they are asking me for an install code, then something is off.

austere patio
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I don't remember the specifics but it's either the device that generates it or your smart meter itself

carmine hamlet
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Mine is on a label of my Eagle

austere patio
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In either case, it won't let you communicate with the smart meter because the meter requires your Zigbee device to have a smart energy certificate and I'm not aware of any single DIY device on the market that comes with one. Just those pre-made displays and bridges (e.g. Eagle)

white knot
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That's what I would have thought, but the PG&E folks were so insistent that it's a code I needed to generate.

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OK, it's off to the Matter forum for the other set of SkyConnect questions, then. Thanks.

austere patio
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Good luck!

young solar
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Have been running a conbee II via USB for a while now without any issues. Im in the market now for a network zigbee device. Whats everyone suggest?

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POE would be a plus

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Def LAN and not a wifi device

long helm
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Hey since a couple of days pretty much all my Zigbee devices have stopped working.
I'm getting the following error when I'm trying to turn on a light.
Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>
https://pastebin.com/QQcnTC3Y
I'm using ZHA with SkyConnect.
Anyone has any clue what could be wrong and how to solve it?

sour shadow
young solar
sour shadow
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Well... that's not really a choice

young solar
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no?

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Tubes all the way?

violet dagger
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Why torn?

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Ihost doesn't do what you want to do

young solar
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Must be missing it

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says its a zigbee hub

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But the POE is pretty nice with Tubes

sour shadow
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A Local Private Server For Your House

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Server != Zigbee coordinator

violet dagger
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being a zigbee hub doesn't mean it works with homeassistant zigbee integrations

austere patio
cobalt bluff
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I purchased SkyConnect dongle from Ameridroid when it first came out and was never able to successfully install it. SkyConnect Multi-PAN
Zigbee Home Automation was successfully discovered and when I click on configure, And error message, “SkyConnect Multi-PAN
Zigbee Home Automation Unknown error occurred” appeared. Has anyone come up with a resolution on how to resolve this issue?

sacred narwhal
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I know this is likely my fault for turning off zigbee lights but is anyone else having major issues after adding in smart outlets from Ikea?

austere patio
ivory pendant
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Do end devices only make one connection to a router??

mellow geode
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To one router or the coordinator. They should switch if the chosen router becomes unavailable/offline

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Although some devices like (older) Xiaomi/Aqara gear do not switch in that case and you’ll have to re-pair it

ivory pendant
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So to get the individual end devices to connect to a closer router... I would need to use the "add devices from this device" in zha... correct? it seems my end devices just pick a router at random and in some ways make bad choices....

strong mason
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Is it me or are smart wall switches like Lutron just not a thing in 220v? The only non-trashy thing I can find is aqara's generic clickers.

mellow geode
strong mason
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I'd sonoff or Shelly all my switches but sonoff's zigbee relays have multi second delays in response for some reason and Shelly is wifi only and way too big to fit my teensy junction boxes

mellow geode
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Also note that the ZHA network visualization isn’t live and takes hours to update. A refresh may be triggered by using the button. You can refresh the page after ~5 to 40 minutes and it should have the new routes

ivory pendant
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Well I live on a Farm and I have tried to "extend" my reach with adding strategically placed routing devices and I just simply try to pair them generally ... so I thought it would pick the closest / strogest signal.... but they seem to pick some routers over other closer ones....

mellow geode
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Older Aqara devices pick the first router they see, so it’s basically random what they pick.
Other devices should scan before picking one

ivory pendant
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well I appreciate the info.,... I just paired these devices this afternoon... maybe Ill give them a while to settle in... I have a aqara button and temp/humidty sensor in my chicken coop with a cree bulb in the coop but none of the end decices are talking to the cree... so if it doesnt sort its way out... I will repair via "this device" and see if I can make them a bit more reliable...

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are not talking to the cree bulb is what I should have said... its 2:37 AM here

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Thanks You ! @mellow geode

near cypress
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Hi i have a few Develco schuco power

weak totem
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Any cheap but good motion sensors I can find on AliExpress? I saw some tuya and sonoff but not sure what is recommended

violet dagger
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most of the tuya ones perform ok considering you can get them for under 4$

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sonoff has firmware issues

sour shadow
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Xiaomi ones are ok, P1 are better than the original

weak totem
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So either Tuya or Xiaomi then

violet dagger
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preferably xiaomi but you said cheap

sour shadow
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Tuya is more likely to bring the pain

near cypress
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How about Aqara?

sour shadow
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Can also be pain, but as long as you know how they work you'll be fine

weak totem
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are the xiaomi ones only using the cr2450 batteries?

near cypress
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The new Aqara P1 sensors are zigbee 3.0, that being said, I'm using the old t1's and as long as you know the above they are pretty stable.

sour shadow
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Yeah, of my ~60 Aqara devices only one has even given me problems, and that looked to be faulty hardware

weak totem
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so when i look for the p1 on aliexpress it shows them as door and window sensors.. and are quite pricey, is that what you all talking about because i need just a motion sensor

sour shadow
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No, the P1 motion sensor

near cypress
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The P1 Motion sensors are more pricey than the old T1 motion sensors. The old version is still good for the price I think.

weak totem
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i guess thats not the same one then what you linked

waxen sonnet
sour shadow
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The P1 is RTCGQ14LM

waxen sonnet
weak totem
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ok

violet dagger
near cypress
weak totem
waxen sonnet
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yea, Aqara using P1 on two different sensor types is confusing

violet dagger
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ah my bad, the motion sensor is found in western markets

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i can buy it in my local stores

weak totem
violet dagger
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thats the old one

near cypress
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Yeah, the T1

violet dagger
waxen sonnet
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I've not seen the Aqara Motion Sensor P1 (RTCGQ14LM) on aliexpress, usually all I see is the older model RTCGQ11LM

weak totem
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oh

violet dagger
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because its not for chinese markets

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the E1 motion sensor is expected to be found there once its fully released

weak totem
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so if thats not a option, what was the tuya (or other brand) you recommended?

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oh is that soon @violet dagger

violet dagger
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no

weak totem
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dont think buying from there is an option for me

violet dagger
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or get the high precision one from alix

weak totem
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which is the high precisions one

violet dagger
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where in the globe are you?

weak totem
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israel

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usually buy things from aliexpress, als o can buy from ikea locally. i saw a sensor there for about 20usd

waxen sonnet
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I'd pick up the RTCGQ11LM (original) and test it out in your use case... Once you know the devices limitations, you can usually work around them

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I got the RTCGQ11LM here for about $12US

weak totem
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that one u just linked is like 50 cents

waxen sonnet
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you are falling for the aliexpress scam

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that is for the holder

near cypress
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no, that's the holder, check the "color" selector

weak totem
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o

waxen sonnet
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click on the single pir

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and the price will change

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but NOT the description

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been there, done that, 😞

weak totem
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ya i got tricked 😄

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cant tell you how many times i got relatives who ordered the wrong thing because of that trick

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besides being new, whats difference between p1 and t1?

waxen sonnet
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biggest diff I recall is the "timeout" to clear

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so once it detects presensce believe the T1 has a 75 second cool down period BEFORE it will pick up moment again

sour shadow
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P1 can be turned as low as 10 seconds for re-detection

near cypress
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P1 has two batteries, T1 has 1 battery. P1 is zigbee 3.0 vs zigbee 1.2, P1 has motion timepout config, T1 has 1 minute static timeout.

weak totem
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and how do these aqara t1 compare to the tuya ones?

lilac wharf
waxen sonnet
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don't know, i don't do Tuya

weak totem
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i got a couple of there temp sensors and they working fine so far for me for how much i paid for them

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@sour shadow do you know if the ikea motion sensor is really good? i saw it at the store but its basically 2x or 3x of the price of what we talking about here

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so i didnt buy it

waxen sonnet
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i got the Xiaomi blue tooth temp sensors

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as I try to keep the # of addon's to a minimum if possible

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they were about $4us a piece

weak totem
waxen sonnet
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quick glance, it looks to be on par with the P1

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dual batteries

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cooldown timeout selectable

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does not look to be available to me in the US

near cypress
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Ikea has released a few revisions of the motion sensors. I have had two of them (don't know their names), but have had some problems with keeping them connected to my ZHA system. They work great with the ikea tradfri hub.

weak totem
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by the way, how long are the aqara battery life?

sour shadow
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Year+

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Depends on how often they trigger, but between 1 and 3 years

weak totem
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oh nice

sour shadow
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I've got some of their door/window sensors that are going on 3 years now with original batteries

waxen sonnet
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I've got a P1 sensor back in March, and the battery is reporting at 100% still

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but of course, the environment (temp/humdity/etc) will also play in how long they last

azure talon
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Does anyone have any insight into resetting the scenic gira friends of hue switches and connect them to ZHA? The instructions only include how to connect them but not how to disconnect them from a hue system

austere patio
foggy copper
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Hey, is there a way to reduce how often an Aqara temp/humi sensor send values ?

sour shadow
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They don't have any settings to change, no

foggy copper
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Ok thx

coarse forge
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Hi, I have flashed a Sonoff Zigbee Bridge with Tasmota, and installed the ZHA template onto Tasmota, installed ZHA integration, and it successfully found the Zigbee gateway

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Now how do I go about adding Zigbee end devices e.g. control / sensors?

violet dagger
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You click Add integration then Add Zigbee device

signal osprey
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is in zigbee2mqtt any provision to reduce the pay load data for sending to mqtt broker? as i have few Xoami aquara door sensor & motion sensor. my mqtt broker complain about the big pay load 2023-08-19T23:43:40.231815Z ERROR rumqttd::server::broker: Disconnected!!, error: Network(Io(Custom { kind: InvalidData, error: "Payload size has been exceeded by 21323 bytes" }))

cosmic juniper
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hi! new to the discord. my frustrations with skyconnect finally pushed me to seek help. i did a search and it seems like several others are reporting problems similar to mine. devices just randomly drop off either by going unavailable, or i get a "failed to deliver" message when trying to control them. i'm using zha.

has a hardware or firmware issue been confirmed with the skyconnect? i just ordered a sonoff dongle to see if i have better luck with it, but i'd really like to use the skyconnect since i could potentially start using thread devices in the future.

grim igloo
cosmic juniper
grim igloo
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Can you download the diagnostic file from zha integration dotsvertical and share it here?

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It’ll show the environment scan and other things to help diagnose

cosmic juniper
grim igloo
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fuck

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is it on channel 25?

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should be in there i dont really debug zha much

# 
        "extended_pan_id": "**REDACTED**",
        "pan_id": 24158,
        "nwk_update_id": 0,
        "nwk_manager_id": 0,
        "channel": 25,
        "channel_mask": 134215680,
        "security_level": 5,
        "network_key": "**REDACTED**",
        "tc_link_key": {```
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ya it is

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if @austere patio is around he can try to help diagnose zha skyconnect issues. you probably need to provide some other logs though

cosmic juniper
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alright. well thanks for taking a look. i was super happy to get off of smartthings hub finally, but the zigbee stuff has been driving me crazy. at least my zwave stuff seems to be working fine.

grim igloo
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i use z2m instead of zha and use a tube PoE coordinator instead of a usb one

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but zha and z2m are both stable - i have absolutely seen some people having issues with skyconnect but it always ends up being interference related (shit mesh, bad channel choice, etc)

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this is also why i am very choosy with which devices i put on both my zigbee and zwave meshes

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do you happen to have inovelli blue light switches too?

cosmic juniper
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i don't. ge switches.

grim igloo
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y u c k

cosmic juniper
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lol

grim igloo
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i have almost all hue bulbs for zigbee repeaters and almost all zooz light switches for zwave

cosmic juniper
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i have sengled bulbs and they have been great up until now. as much as i hated smartthings because their service just constantly had problems, the hub itself never had connectivity issues with my devices. but as soon as i migrated to the skyconnect, now my bulbs keep dropping off.

grim igloo
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shit

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sengled bulbs arent repeaters and just generally arent great devices

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colors arent great, transitions flicker

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sengled bulbs break the zigbee spec for mains devices being repeaters so they dont help strengthen a mesh lol

cosmic juniper
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6 years using them no problem. then skyconnect.

grim igloo
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i suppose your ST hub might've just had a better antenna design / radiation pattern that allowed your lack of a great mesh to still work

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i'm not arguing with you just pointing things out

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zigbee and zwave are mesh protocols depending on repeaters to get signals across the house man

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what repeaters do you have?

cosmic juniper
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i have aotec plugs. 2 zwave. 2 zigbee. one of each upstairs, and one of each downstairs.

grim igloo
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damn

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my zigbee mesh has around 45 repeaters :/

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every blue device is a repeater

cosmic juniper
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i also cut power to the bulbs because i want switches to work like switches. but i guess that doesn't matter if you are saying they aren't repeaters anyway.

grim igloo
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in general that's a bad thing but yes because they arent repeaters, they are okay to cut power to technically

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that's the logic sengled used when choosing to violate the zigbee spec

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is your skyconnect centrally located in the house?

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i was using a sonoff P dongle

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PoE coordinators are nice because a lot of times someone's server/pi/whatever with the usb dongles hanging off it isnt really centrally located like a basement or corner of the house

cosmic juniper
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yeah, pretty central. but i've noticed it doesn't matter what the distance is from the dongle. devices near or far both randomly go unavailable.

grim igloo
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i see

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ya then could be something else. puddly is the zha maintainer and works at nabu casa and helps diagnose skyconnect related issues so he's your man but seems like he's not around right now

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hopefully he jumps in later/tomorrow and tags you

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not sure what else to suggest but ultimately you dont have a strong mesh.. regardless of "how things worked with smartthings"

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so my suggestion is to get some more repeaters :/

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it certainly wont hurt

cosmic juniper
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now that i'll have a skyconnect and a sonoff, can i use one as the coordinator and the other as a repeater / booster / router whatever you call it?

grim igloo
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you can flash router firmware on one yes

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you'll have to look up how i've never needed to

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it's suggested to just buy devices that repeat not dedicated repeaters with no added functionality

cosmic juniper
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alright. you might be right with the weak network. again, it just was never an issue with the ST hub. but it seems very plausible. thanks again.

grim igloo
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i'd buy a 4 pack of hue bulbs and replace some sengled bulbs and see if they magically work

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but killing power to them is just gonna make your mesh suck even worse

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cuz then known working routes will be dead

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some people just buy like smart plugs and sprinkle them around but again.. kind of silly to buy shit you dont really need to use

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light bulbs / light switches that you actually need / want is ideal

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are you in the us?

cosmic juniper
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do people rewire their smart switches to not actually cut power to bulbs when they are toggled? what happens in the event of a power outage / restoration. i don't want the lights just coming on in my kids rooms in the middle of the night.

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yeah, in the us

grim igloo
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no

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people buy smart switches with smart bulb mode

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and then the switch doesnt kill power to the bulbs (the relay)

cosmic juniper
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oh wtf i didn't know that existed

grim igloo
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yep

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i use all zwave light switches in smart bulb mode with all zigbee light bulbs

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and home assistant sees the light switch taps/double taps/triple/hold/etc

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and then automates off those

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downside to that is, if hass is down, or zigbee, or zwave, then my light switches dont work.

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workaround is using zigbee light switches + light bulbs and binding them so they work even if hass is down

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or zwave equivalent

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multiple options

lilac wharf
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Or if you have Tasmota switches and bulbs, you can set them up to talk via MQTT or with something called device groups which communicates over UDP. These are WiFi devices though

grim igloo
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so smart switches are always supplying power after outage but lights never come on cuz hue bulbs remember previous state

grim igloo
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or is there a noticable delay?

lilac wharf
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It's insanely fast

grim igloo
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cool

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i'm already over leveraged on wifi personally but good to know

lilac wharf
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In my experience, it's so fast it makes it look like it's just a regular switch

grim igloo
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i've realized i have way too many wled devices and had to add another AP cuz my phone kept getting bounced from AP to AP with airtime fairness issues i think

lilac wharf
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There's the occasional hiccup where some lights turn on slightly after the others, but that's just the nature of UDP

grim igloo
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ya but zigbee groups using broadcast basically operates on the same logic

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yet my 11 bulbs in my kitchen are always in sync when i call the zigbee group

lilac wharf
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Well, with Tasmota device groups, all devices in the group know the specific other devices in the group

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Not the case with zigbee groups sadly which are a broadcast that ends up being repeated three times by all routers on the network

grim igloo
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ya the zigbee broadcast across the entire mesh when you only target one zigbee group is crazy

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three times?

lilac wharf
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Yeah

grim igloo
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./giphy kekw-pain-dot-jiff

cosmic juniper
grim igloo
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yes

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i mean no i dont have them, yes it's a good one, yes it seems to have some routing related issues

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i was trying to draw a parallel to a few other cases with inovelli blue issues with skyconnect that people have had

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@fair mountain you're the guy still figuring out what's up with that right?

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but generally i do suggest inovelli blues cuz they seem to be the best hardware for us based people wanting smart zigbee switches (the alternatives are basically chyna designed and produced which is.. not great)

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i dont personally have any cuz $50 a switch is too much for me

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hence why i went zwave zooz switches lol

haughty sparrow
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I've been using an IKEA 4 button remote for a year or so with ZHA on Skyconnect. I just noticed that the device does not have any event entities. I'm guessing I need to wait for further updates to HA/ZHA?

sudden yarrow
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Yes. At moment it is just supported by Matter, Hue (integration), MQTT and HomeKit Devices

nocturne river
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im searching for an IR bluster/remote to controlle AC and old tvs. i found RM4 pro but i dont want to download an app in all the way of the prosses i want the home to be 100% offline. dose anyone know of something like that?

wispy seal
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Check these out!

fair mountain
grim igloo
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Bummer

fair mountain
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(and i havent updated anything.)

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im going to sell this house so im probably just going to abandon all the switches here lol

grim igloo
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All inovelli blues? Damn

fair mountain
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yep. except garage which is 2 inovelli

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er, leviton

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leviton zigbee

grim igloo
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That’s like 5% of their entire stock

fair mountain
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lol oh and that's the other problem ..

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they have no stock.

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it took me 2 months to get replacement switches for ones that were DOA

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oh back to skyconnect ...

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so, EMG (skyconnect) doesnt play nicely with Hue battery powered sensors. I didnt have any problems with Inovelli switches, though. However, z2m is very much "will eat your children" with EMG now, so you're basically stuck with ZHA.

grim igloo
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if you lived in dfw i'd come take all the switches and install home depot cheapos 😛

grim igloo
fair mountain
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i still have the box of decora

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just what a pain in the butt, would have to redo all the careful wire management and remove the neutrals ..

grim igloo
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so you never tried z2m to see if your issues magically went away?

fair mountain
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im on z2m now

grim igloo
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oh

fair mountain
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i switched away from ZHA because I broke my network up

grim igloo
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with efr32?

fair mountain
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no i am back on a cc stick, because I wasnrt willing not to be able to use $400 worth of hue sensors lol

grim igloo
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ya

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i like my hue motion sensors

fair mountain
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they are probably the favourite part of my zigbee network

grim igloo
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i'm happy with all my hue bulbs too tho

fair mountain
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me too

grim igloo
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so you split your zigbee into two networks?

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i was wondering if that would help

fair mountain
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i removed 10 year old hue stuff from my main network

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and stuck it on my second network, along with some Sengled plugs that really broadcast spam

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also removed a Linktap controller from my house physically (unplugged it)

grim igloo
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ya i've heard first gen hue is bad for routing

fair mountain
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okay so my most STABLE network (it lasted a month without any issues) has been TWO z2m 1.32.1, Z-Stack 20221226 on SMLIGHT SLZB-06 PoE.

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Z-StaCk firmwares after 20221226 are garbage, there's a massive issue about it on Github (and I warned them before they released it that its broken .. but eh whatever)

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ive got 166 devices on my first network and 12 on my second

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anyway, im so fed up with zigbee. it should "just work" most of the time and it doesnt.

grim igloo
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i'm on the latest stable now and think i've run into a couple issues but didnt bug me enough to chase down

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but my mesh is only like 55 devices

fair mountain
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im looking at moving to a larger house and im seriously debating what to do, i really like being able to control everything centrally and use adaptive lighting

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10 hue hubs? 😄 lol

grim igloo
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idk part of me says try splitting into sub 100 max devices per mesh and see if that magically fixes things

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i'm not really a fan of the hue hubs myself

fair mountain
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neither

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idk what the new house is going to be anyway, its possibly i will have to rewire the whole thing with neutrals

grim igloo
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the zigbee group control for 10+ bulbs in one room works better with z2m than it did on hue

fair mountain
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might not even have cat6 drops lol

grim igloo
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ye

nocturne river
grim igloo
nocturne river
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then what usb i should buy?

all i want is to controlle my ac and i spent 7h searching and getting nothing

nocturne river
grim igloo
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I would personally use a cc2652p based coordinator and z2m to control it

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Lots of good info pinned in this channel

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One cheap option is a sonoff p dongle for around $20-30 off amazon or less on alie

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You can also buy PoE coordinators which is what I’m using now. Let’s you place it centrally located

nocturne river
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coordinators are the "routers"?

grim igloo
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No

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Coordinators are the usb stick or PoE or whatever that controls the network

nocturne river
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oh i thought that called router

grim igloo
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Routers are mains devices that extend the mesh and repeat signal like light bulbs, light switches, smart plugs

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There are a few mains devices that don’t repeat like sengled bulbs. Don’t buy those

nocturne river
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thanks

grim igloo
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And have mostly hue zigbee bulbs which are all routers

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Then motion sensors and stuff that use the mesh as well but don’t repeat. Those are called end devices

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Like battery devices

nocturne river
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thats helped a lot, i thought all devises are the part of the mesh

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if i can ask one last thing, do u know of an ir bluster that uses zigbee?

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expet what i sent

grim igloo
grim igloo
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There is also open mqtt gateway but maybe more diy than you’re comfortable with

nocturne river
grim igloo
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Google it dude

nocturne river
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thanks for the info

hollow sierra
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Does anyone know why in MQTT I can see the value, but in home Assistant it doesn't appear?

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I am ruling our Z2M as I can see everything perfectly, and it is being passed correctly to MQTT....it just doesnt appear in HQ. (Everything else for the device is working and showing correctly)

orchid galleon
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Anyone know what the heck is going on here? Was working a minute ago, and since remotely turning it off, it doesnt work

Debug 2023-08-24 18:45:13Publishing 'set' 'state' to 'Hall'
Error 2023-08-24 18:45:23Publish 'set' 'state' to 'Hall' failed: 'Error: Command 0x60b647fffe53e8d8/1 genOnOff.on({}, {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (65))'
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Debug 2023-08-24 18:45:23Error: Command 0x60b647fffe53e8d8/1 genOnOff.on({}, {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":false,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (no response received (65)) at DeconzAdapter.sendZclFrameToEndpoint (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/deconz/adapter/deconzAdapter.ts:656:23) at Request.send (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/helpers/request.ts:81:20) at Endpoint.command (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/model/endpoint.ts:833:28) at Object.convertSet (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman-converters/src/converters/toZigbee.js:293:17) at Publish.onMQTTMessage (/app/lib/extension/publish.ts:248:36)
Info 2023-08-24 18:45:23MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload '{"message":"Publish 'set' 'state' to 'Hall' failed: 'Error: Command 0x60b647fffe53e8d8/1 genOnOff.on({}, {\"sendWhen\":\"immediate\",\"timeout\":10000,\"disableResponse\":false,\"disableRecovery\":false,\"disableDefaultResponse\":false,\"direction\":0,\"srcEndpoint\":null,\"reservedBits\":0,\"manufacturerCode\":null,\"transactionSequenceNumber\":null,\"writeUndiv\":false}) failed (no response received (65))'","meta":{"friendly_name":"Hall"},"type":"zigbee_publish_error"}'
austere patio
violet dagger
ivory pike
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Someone has same issue with aqara humidity / temp sensor? Device became unavailable.

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In HA

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Thanks

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Ill look into that

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To be honest , i think its broken. It felt when attaching to wall , or either it got to moist. I wanted to use it in the shower to prevent light going out while showering

austere patio
violet dagger
fair mountain
celest quail
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Hi friends. I got a ZigBee presence sensor and I've been trying to get the quirk to work and I have no idea what I'm doing anymore

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Ahh I can't post photos

tranquil mica
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anyone able to successfully Firmware flash a Sonoff Zigbee Dongle Plus?

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I am getting
error timeout waiting for ack/nack after synch

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it is pushing the dongle into Boot Loader mode, I can see the little light Turn Green

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but it just wont actually do anything

hybrid cloud
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i've got a particular devicie that keeps going offline, or sometimes "losign connection" without saying it's offline. the only way to reconnect it seems to be to go to add a zigbee device again and it'll reestablish connection and show the device. tapping the pair button on it etc doesnt do anything otherwise
how can i go about troubleshooting this to figure out whats going on?

sour shadow
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  1. What device?
  2. What router is it connected to?
  3. Did you check for WiFi interference?
hybrid cloud
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  1. Aqara vibration sensor lumi.vibration.aq1
  2. An ikea light, TRADFRIbulbE26WSglobeopal1100lm
  3. Current LQI 255, RSSI -65, there's a new network on wifi channel 4, that wasnt there before, which my phone picks up at between -60 to -80 dBm on the path between the sensor and the router. other than that one network, there's nothing on wifi that should be causing interference
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i thought it might have been the battery at first, but i still experienced the issue when i swapped batteries

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the battery measurement itself appears to be unreliable. it always sticks between 70-73% except for when i first repair the device where the battery hangs around 9-20% before eventually jumping back to that 70-73 range

violet dagger
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is power to the router bulb cut sometimes?

hybrid cloud
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nah, it's always plugged in and powered

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i was looking at my logs and it looks like the device was checking in fine, then my zigbee server restarted for some reason, and when it came back online, the device wasnt responding. So i had this from the multiprotocol addon

Restarting
[05:18:54:108619] Info : Endpoint socket #12: Client disconnected. 1 connections
[05:18:54:108907] Info : Client disconnected
[05:18:55:117675] Info : New client connection using library v4.3.1.0
[05:18:55:124479] Info : Endpoint socket #12: Client connected. 2 connections
Reusing socket from previous instance.```

And this line in my zha logs ````2023-08-25 05:19:01.362 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway] [0x4ADF](LUMI lumi.vibration.aq1) restored as 'available', last seen: 0:05:27 ago, consider_unavailable_time: 21600 seconds``
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but it never actually responded after that restart

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maybe i'll have to check in thefuture, see if this happens every time

hybrid cloud
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ok either this was a different issue al ltogether or it's related that the vibration sensor losing connection is being caused by a different device

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so i'll justhave to keep an eye out

hybrid cloud
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all i can say for sure is that whenever this happens, short tap on the pairing button makes it blink twice, which supposedly means the sensor is linked to thenetwork, but clearly its not sending its messages successfully

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if anyone has any ideas what to look for next time it happens, would be helpful

tranquil mica
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if it is an Aquara device, they are known to not follow proper Zigbee protocols. you need to find a compatable router, i know theres a list somewhere

eternal mason
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If I have a smart relay module, can I wire it up so that it can communicate with HA (over ZB) while not actually controlling anything (the lights that it'd normally control are smart, so I need them always powered)

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Specifically, I have a sonoff zbmini2. Im considering some zbmini (not 2) if necessary, because I suspect the 2s not requiring a neutral wire means they're dependent on the bulbs to complete the circuit

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Although perhaps when wiring the bulbs to always be hot, I could include the relays line out there as well

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I'll have an electrician doing it for me, but he's not familiar with relays so I want to work out how the wiring should go

sour shadow
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Well, why? Why have a relay that doesn't control the load?

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If that's so you can use the switch as an input for HA then the module has to support decoupled/smart bulb mode

violet dagger
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Which that one doesnt

eternal mason
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Would the zbmini 1, which does use a neutral wire, support that?

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Or alternatively, are there any recommended zigbee relays that do support that? I don't want to replace the whole switch because it's in a gang box with another smart relay + switch going to dumb bulbs

violet dagger
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if the device has a "decouple" or "smart bulb" mode it supports that

eternal mason
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Okay. I really like ZB but I haven't been able to find a ZB relay that has those modes, at least not mentioned in any product pages. I found an article mentioning Shelly (wifi) relays have that mode though, so I'll probably pick some of those up

violet dagger
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Some do but they are Tuya

astral seal
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Aqara also makes some that do.

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And then yeah if you want to go WiFi you could get a Shelly 1 or flash a Sonoff Mini with esphome.

eternal mason
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If the tuya relays still go through zigbee, does it matter? They don't need to phone home or anything, right?

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But yeah I just realized the Shelly relays are also wifi repeaters. That actually sounds awesome, so I think I'll do that

astral seal
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Tuya is known for devices that don't follow spec, and their quality can be hit or miss.

grim igloo
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if so, they dont do active connections

astral seal
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It looks like the new gen of Shelly stuff just provides WiFi range extension for other Shelly devices, so that's not really going to do anything for you unless you're planning on getting more Shelly devices and you have problems with WiFi coverage.

grim igloo
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weird

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yay for added interference on 2.4ghz tho!

eternal mason
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Just going off the product page it doesn't seem to only be a repeater for other Shelly devices

nocturne river
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are all Aqara zigbee based devices can be add to zigbee2mqtt without any active connection nor app? as far as i know Aqara wifi based devices do need an app

grim igloo
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active connection?

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they need a zigbee mesh or to be close to the coordinator

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no added app

nocturne river
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sorry, by saying "active connection" i meant by phoning home, etc for the init setup

sour shadow
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Zigbee devices cannot "phone home"

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They are by definition 100% local

grim igloo
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we wouldnt be buying chyna devices if they required phoning home

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well some people would cuz they dont care about privacy and might not be the smartest, but a lot of us wouldnt lol

nocturne river
sour shadow
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Ah, the good old vague "somebody"

grim igloo
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well better than somebody.. it was a youtuber trying to extract value out of people

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he must be trusted

nocturne river
rapid dawnBOT
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@nocturne river When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

grim igloo
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that domain looks extra trustworthy too