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hybrid vale
half cradle
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Dude. You have other zigbee devices?

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ZHA or mqtt?

hybrid vale
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yes

half cradle
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That's your gateway

hybrid vale
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okay well i already did that, i set up automation for it after all

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but to return to my original problem, the device has no sensors

half cradle
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And you do the settings physically on the device per the manual

hybrid vale
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yes, the automation probably wouldnt work without it

half cradle
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Zero total? Not even open and close?

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Move closer to a stronger signal and try readding or

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It

hybrid vale
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worth noting that it's currently partially open, and the up arrow doesnt work

half cradle
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Yea. That's it

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Open and close

hybrid vale
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it doesnt seem to recognize partial open-ness, it never has both arrows usable

half cradle
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You do the bottom and upper limit settings on the device

hybrid vale
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arent those controls, rather than sensors? idk what the technical term for it is

half cradle
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Like I've said many times now

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Why don't you just do it. I got other things to do

hybrid vale
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but basically if i change the height of the shades with the physical buttons, HA doesnt see the change

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ideally i'd also see battery charge as well, but that might not be a thing this does

half cradle
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Dude. It remembers upper and lower on the device.

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Yes, I'm not sure about if battery is a possibility. Maybe on Z2m.

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Regardless. If you follow the limit settings your problem is solved

hybrid vale
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the device knows the min and max height, but it wont show HA the current height

half cradle
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Yes

hybrid vale
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if i didnt set the min and max height i feel like automation wouldnt be working lol

half cradle
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If you listened to me you would know it did already

hybrid vale
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know what did?

half cradle
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That it worked

hybrid vale
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what worked?

mighty river
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I just can't understand why does my aqara lumi aq2 sensor thing always trigger detection I recently lowered the cooldown to 5 second with hardware mod and stuff and it worked until sometime now it detects motion 5 seconds later it says there is no motion but immeadetly after it starts to detect motion again it is literally unusable did some other one experience this?

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I needed to take out the battery so it doesn't drain

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did we* broke the device with some kind of short circuit because we* didn't had thick wires so we* used many amounts of thin wires and one of the thin wires gone to unwanted place and it broke it?

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I tried to shake it but it didn't chance anything

bronze sigil
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Hi all, I decided to switch my yellow radio to Zigbee Only and get rid of the OpenThread Border Router...

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Should I just flash the latest version of EnberZNet (7.3.1.0)?

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Or is there an older version that is considered more stable?

marble mulch
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SONOFF ZBMINIL2 Questions.. Is it a good fit and will it work in these scenarios?

Here is what I'm wanting to accomplish and hoping someone can tell me if this device will do that..

Scenario 1: Have a switch box that has a neutral wire. It turns my ceiling fan / light combo off/on.. I have a Smart Life universal wifi fan/light combo installed that I have in HA to control fan and lights. However, switch has to be on to do so.. I want to be able to control the fan/light via HA/Alexa regardless if the switch is in off/on position.

Scenario 2: I have 3 switch boxes, all 3 way, that control our hallway lights. None have a neutral. Will this device provide HA on/off ability? If so, do I need to install 3 (one in each box)?

Scenario 3: I have a switch box with no neutral. Just want HA to have ability to turn lights off/on.

Also, for any of the scenarios that do work (if any), does the standard on/off toggle light switch work with them?

Thanks!

mellow geode
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I didn't check, but maybe you're able to just reload the ZHA integration

trim bay
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Can someone recommend a zigbee hub which connects over LAN? My hardware is in the basement and it would be a very bad location for a zigbee hub.

half cradle
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^^ what he said

hybrid laurel
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@violet dagger hi, saw ur blog about aqara h1, do happen to know why h1 loses power when in decouple mode? When in relay mode it doesn't. Is there anyway to make it always on while I'm decouple mode?

violet dagger
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I don't know, I don't use it in decouple mode

hybrid laurel
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Ok thx

lofty lichen
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I have 2 zigbee bulbs that are sharing 1 device name its confusing I cant seem to get them to work individually

In automations i see two devices

_TZ3210_it1u8ahz TS0505B
_TZ3210_it1u8ahz TS0505B

If i select the second one it says in Action "Right" but then after a few seconds it defaults to "Left" again I think its because there both conflicting names ?

tropic tulip
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So I am setting up my first zigbee network on HA using ZHA/skyconnect.
Should i just connect/pair everything to the skyconnect? and it will figure out the best route?
Or should i try and "plan" the routes? manually making the "mesh"
I'm currently starting with all my mains powered hue lightbulbs

violet dagger
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No unless you have Aqara sensors, those need to be paired through the closest router

tropic tulip
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OKay thanks! 🙂
I do however have one stubbon hue bulb, that don't want to pair.
any tip?

grim igloo
tropic tulip
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Thanks il give it a go

loud oyster
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I have just paired a Tradfri Motion Sensor

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When I initially first tested it

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It was showing as clear and when I moved it showed as detected

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but it now just stays as detected indefinitely

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When I restarted HA it seemed to do the same thing, initially working until becoming detected

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(It actually seems to now just stay Detected for longer than it should) often about 3-4 minutes after you have moved away

ancient hare
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I seem to be having issues trying to get a switch to keep on to start a Bulb that is in the ceiling rose. it rather puts the bulb into pairing mode and the switch keeps turning off do automation will not work with the sensors is there any good way around this? Switch is a MOES Tuya ZigBee Smart Touch Switch, Requires Tuya ZigBee Hub, No Neutral Wire No Capacitor Needed. Bulb is a AISIRER Alexa Smart Bulb WiFi Light Bulbs E27 Screw

heady kayak
loud oyster
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alright

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its fine i guess not much energy waste

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Also, I was reading some other messages in this channel and realised I never considered how I 'setup' my zigbee mesh.

I have no idea about this stuff so I will just send the visualisation tab and ask whether I need to do anything.
https://ibb.co/L8cXJbm

oak pike
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I just picked up a new Aqara P1 motion sensor, but it seems to not detect anything (literally its only job? :D) It just says clear 100% of the time. Zigbee map shows it without any direct line. Using ZHA. I've re-paired this thing a dozen times and it's all the same. Anybody ever see this before?

astral seal
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Yeah. Did you pair it through a nearby router or just hit "add device" under your zigbee integration?

grim igloo
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It’s a 3.0 one it shouldn’t need to be joined to a specific router

oak pike
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I just hit add device within my zigbee configuration, though I did it at my desk - my HA server with the stick is about 5ft away.

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the most recent log in logbook is that the LED trigger indicator turned off. Even if I turn that on, it just... stays off.

lime locust
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after a power outage (breaker) some lights dissappeared in z2m , and after 5 minutes they haven't popped up yet ?

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tried power cycling the lights

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do i need to reset them ? and repair ?

balmy fossil
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Hey. Im trying to bind a newly bought Ikea E2001 (Styrbar) to my lights, but it fails every time:
error 2023-08-05 18:18:25Failed to bind cluster 'genLevelCtrl' from 'Baby bedroom remote 2' to 'Guest bedroom light 1' (Error: Bind 0xa49e69fffe874e04/1 genLevelCtrl from '0x842e14fffe231976/1' failed (AREQ - ZDO - bindRsp after 10000ms))

Is it a known bug?

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other than binding, this E2001 is talking with my Zigbee2MQTT instance

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ahh dont mind me, i have re-paired it and now it works

tardy zinc
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I have one of those. It was great until I reached having a certain amount of stuff in my network closet (including a USB 3.0 backup drive), then it started complaining about too much interference. I could've moved it to another room, but I don't have a UPS there for power, so I switched to the Yellow's onboard radio instead.

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All my stuff including wired network equipment, several PCs, a MOCA adapter, and big metal shelves are all in that room, so it's no wonder it had trouble. And come to think of it, I was using it via POE on a flat ethernet cable, which probably isn't really proper twisted pair, so I can't blame the SLZB-06 for having trouble.

brave nacelle
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thanks for the tip. i just went to swap out my massive alfa antenna for the one that came with the sonoff, only to find it was barely screwed in. could be the reason too or part of it

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i've been going at this for days now

molten linden
grim igloo
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hot damn

violet dagger
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suh-weet

molten linden
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I can't get the build workflow to work, so they build local now, but fairly quick only a minute or 2 in my tests on HA Blue.

grim igloo
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can we get that pinned tinkerer^

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the PoE coordinator addons updater^

molten linden
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for skyconnect and yellow still recommend the offical HA Addon

half cradle
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sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttttttttttt

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@molten linden the link in the description doesn't work. just fyi incase you didnt know "TubesZB TI CC2652 firmware flasher add-on.
Visit the TubesZB TI CC2652 FW Flasher page for more details"

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for both add-ons

molten linden
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which link? can you dm me a screen shot

half cradle
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you got it

molten linden
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I fixed it. prob won't get an updated addon until I push a new version

brave nacelle
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so in trying to resolve all of this, it seems the main thing going wrong right now is zigbee (my install has recently started failing in several areas)

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swapped out the antenna to see if that'd help any

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still nada

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[139976759215936] Failed to send request: Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>

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Source: components/zha/core/cluster_handlers/init.py:75

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Integration: Zigbee Home Automation (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 3:42:09 PM (65 occurrences)
Last logged: 3:43:26 PM

    [0x92A2:1:0x0702]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [TimeoutError(), TimeoutError(), TimeoutError(), TimeoutError()]
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Source: components/zha/core/gateway.py:205
First occurred: 3:40:58 PM (2 occurrences)
Last logged: 3:40:58 PM

    Zigbee channel 15 utilization is 85.49%!
    If you are having problems joining new devices, are missing sensor updates, or have issues keeping devices joined, ensure your coordinator is away from interference sources such as USB 3.0 devices, SSDs, WiFi routers, etc.
mighty river
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Hit ignore would have also been helpful.

brave nacelle
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is anyone here using the zigpy-znp toolkit?

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i'm getting timeouts when supplying /dev/ttyUSB1 to it (the zigbee device)

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for an energy scan

grim igloo
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You can try tube’s new tool above

brave nacelle
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checking it out

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that does more than just handle flashing?

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seems i can't attach a screenshot here but i'm getting 'pragma: no cover' as the first error

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i'm wondering if this is all rooted in a more fundamental cause/issue

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because if a scan is getting a timeout, maybe it's a hardware issue?

grim igloo
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ah derp sorry

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are you using zha or z2m? zha has an energy scan built in if you click the download diagnostics from the dotsvertical on the integrations page

brave nacelle
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zha

grim igloo
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i think it takes a few mins after you click it

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then download the file and the scan will be in there

brave nacelle
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trying to find it now in the device list

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the dongle itself isn't listed, checking 'hardware' instead of devices dash

grim igloo
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nah i think it's just the three dots from the integration itself

brave nacelle
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ah

grim igloo
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sorry i use z2m never done it myself

brave nacelle
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no sweat at all dude, appreciate the efforts regardless

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wow

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every channel is basically high energy

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lowest one is 34

rapid dawnBOT
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@brave nacelle I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

grim igloo
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is the usb coordinator on an extension cord away from usb 3.x ports, SSDs, escaping a metal rack, not near a microwave, not near wifi APs, etc?

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channel 25 looks fine to me

brave nacelle
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it's 6 feet from the laptop, and 8 feet across from a wifi AP

grim igloo
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look at third pinned post in this channel

brave nacelle
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i'll find that out now, but zigbee network is on channel 15

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sure

grim igloo
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if wifi AP 2.4ghz is on channel 1 or 6 that could be affecting it

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especially if it's using 40mhz band width (change this to 20 regardless)

brave nacelle
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checking

brave nacelle
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interesting, just says auto

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ah, sec, enabling

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long friggin day man :/

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yeah it seems one of the APs is on 2.4

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erm, 6

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i've had enough for today

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time for call of duty

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what a shit fucking da y

grim igloo
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@brave nacelle i'd suggest moving to channel 25 when you're ready to deal with that fallout

brave nacelle
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i just switched 2.4 form 'auto' to 7

grim igloo
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with zha i've heard most stuff should just jump over but it's possible you'd need to actually re-pair some devices, certainly battery powered ones

grim igloo
brave nacelle
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gonna change to 25 also on zigbee

grim igloo
brave nacelle
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oh?

grim igloo
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  1. dont change to anything except 1/6/11 for wifi 2.4ghz
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  1. dont change zigbee channel until you're ready to re-pair devices that dont jump over
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it's not a "change it and go" thing

brave nacelle
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ah, ok

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thanks for the warning

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probably just saved me a bunch of grief

grim igloo
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ya

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that's not a "long day on a saturday" thing to do

brave nacelle
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no, it's not

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oof

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changed 2.4 wifi to channel 1

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lights (zigbee) are now responding

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gonna watch logs for a bit

grim igloo
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interference is a bitch yo

brave nacelle
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holy shit

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that's pretty serious

grim igloo
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it be like that

molten linden
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Added video walkthrough link to my post above so it shows in the 📌.

grim igloo
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You love to see it

tardy socket
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My Zigbee2MQTT installation is just doing absolutely nothing, using a Conbee II, not detecting any devices at all any ideas
its working properly, I have the web UI up and running everything says its fine, no logs

grim igloo
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Get a good coordinator then

tardy socket
grim igloo
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Usb or PoE

tardy socket
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i meant like specific

sudden yarrow
tardy socket
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I bought one that was more recommended anyways because after looking into it conbee has connection issues but one sec

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port: /dev/ttyACM0
adapter: deconz

grim igloo
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Conbee isn’t great for hardware dude

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Even if it works it’s not the best

tardy socket
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Yea i realize that now i got it recommended by someone else

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ill just return it tmrw

grim igloo
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Go slap them

tardy socket
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yessir o7

grim igloo
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Oh thought you said you bought a second

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So you want z2m right?

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Any cc2652p will do

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Do you have your hass setup centrally located in your house?

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If so get a usb one, if not try a PoE one more centrally located

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Are you located in the us?

tardy socket
grim igloo
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I recently moved to a tube PoE cc2652p dongle and am very happy with that

tardy socket
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thats the one i ended up buyin this time

grim igloo
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Can’t go wrong with this

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I have a PoE switch to power it though

tardy socket
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thanks :>

half cradle
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same

oak pike
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Does anyone have any tricks to getting a P1 aqara motion sensor to work? I already have one, works great, but just got a 2nd one and the thing never detects motion or reports battery level. There's only so many things I can try. Tempted to just turn it and get a non-P1. But the fact I already have another and it works kind of confuses me...

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Well isn’t that funny. My existing P1 literally just started acting up… won’t detect motion… might be time to roll back

astral seal
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I'm on 2023.8.1 btw and mine is working fine, so it's not HA, something else is going on.

north jungle
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Hi guys, just got my skyConnect, what is the best/easiest smart bulb light that can work with the usb dongle?

Thanks!

astral seal
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Any Zigbee bulb that follows specs should work no problem. Hue is the best, but expensive. Ikea is decent. A lot of the stuff you'll find on Amazon and whatever is buyer beware/ymmv but I've personally had good experiences with Gledopto's pro series rgbcct bulbs, Sengled stuff is OK ime, I have a couple of their 100W equivalent bulbs and a few of the candelabra type, just keep in mind they don't do anything to help your mesh since they're end devices for some reason.

oak pike
oak pike
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I dropped back to 2023.7.3 and still had the same issue. No idea what's going on... it's only the P1's acting up. Think I'm just going to cut my losses and return the one I just got and put the other one that suddenly started acting up on the shelf and scoop up two non-P1's as they're clearly less fussy.

astral seal
oak pike
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Ah well. Return just confirmed, lol.

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Side note - accessing the battery in the P1 is a hilariously bad design. Thankfully you have to do it less frequently on the P1, but still...

brave nacelle
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interesting, so my other wifi downstairs from another isp, might have been on a conflicting channel

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which i can't control from their app it seems

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once i turned it off, shit started working again down there

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turned it back on, still worked

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i think it changed channels during the restart

lean mist
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I have set up zigbee2mqtt with docker have this configuration.yml

permit_join: true
mqtt:
server: mqtt://172.17.0.1:1883
serial:

Could be either USB port (/dev/ttyUSB0), network Zigbee adapters (tcp://192.168.1.1:6638) or mDNS adapter (mdns://my-adapter).

port: /dev/ttyUSB0
frontend: true
homeassistant: true
base_topic: zigbee2mqtt

but i cant see the frontend while i can see the frontend of home assistant for example also exposed via docker the same way

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sour shadow
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What does your Docker configuration for Z2M look like?

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Hopefully you're using a compose file, but if not we need the run command line

lean mist
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yes im using docker compose i will sent it

rapid dawnBOT
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@lean mist I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

sour shadow
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mqtt:
  server: mqtt://172.17.0.1:1883
``` You should update that to use the hostname
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Also, does your broker not require authentication?

lean mist
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It does not require authentication zigbee2mqtt does seem to succesfully connect

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zigbee2mqtt | Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-08-06 10:17:55: Zigbee: allowing new devices to join.
zigbee2mqtt | Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-08-06 10:17:55: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://172.17.0.1:1883

sour shadow
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Well, that just says connecting

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What else does the log show?

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sour shadow
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You should see something like

info  2023-03-31 07:32:25: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://192.168.0.42
info  2023-03-31 07:32:25: Connected to MQTT server
info  2023-03-31 07:32:25: MQTT publish: topic 'z2m_test/bridge/state', payload '{"state":"online"}'
info  2023-03-31 07:32:25: Started frontend on port 0.0.0.0:8080
info  2023-03-31 07:32:25: Zigbee2MQTT started!
lean mist
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not exactly sure why but it works now

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been trying for hours

sour shadow
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Rubber duck debugging 😛

lean mist
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The worst thing is rubber ducks but I guess I need a tinkerer rubber duck

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Well thank you

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everything works now and i can add devices ive been trying so many hours thank you alot!

verbal shard
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Hi guys, do you have the Zigate+ v2 USB ? I'm trying to upgrade it but impossible

sour shadow
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Upgrade the firmware?

verbal shard
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Yes

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I want to upgrade the firmware because I have an error message on HA with the ZHA integration

sour shadow
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If you explain what you're doing and what errors you're getting then somebody can probably help

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Sharing errors from HA will help too 😉

verbal shard
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When i want to upgrade it with the JennicModuleProgrammer, i'm facing this issue

Setting baudrate: 115200
Error setting baudrate
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The documentation I use is in French, do you want me to link it though ?

sour shadow
odd atlas
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hello, anyone have an integration problem with Aqara E1 EU Hub sUSB stick?

sour shadow
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What problem are you having?

odd atlas
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after last HA update the device doesn't configure anymore

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it is always in trying configuration

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i can ping it

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and scan it with nmap

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HA, throught Device Homekit integration, can't discover it

hybrid kestrel
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does anyone here have experience with multiple hue dimmer switches connected to ZHA losing connections at random times requiring them to be re-paired? checked the batteries, not related to battery. it becomes unknown in the system. i have over 120 zigbee devices and zigbee coverage is not an issue as the entire house is lit by philips hue bulbs

pseudo rivet
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im trying to install zigbee2mqtt but is not starting

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info 2023-08-06 19:19:30: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-08-06.19-19-30' filename: log.txt
info 2023-08-06 19:19:30: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.32.2 (commit #unknown)
info 2023-08-06 19:19:30: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.17.2)
error 2023-08-06 19:19:30: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
error 2023-08-06 19:19:30: Failed to start zigbee
error 2023-08-06 19:19:30: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
error 2023-08-06 19:19:30: Exiting...
error 2023-08-06 19:19:30: Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT
at Process.ChildProcess._handle.onexit (node:internal/child_process:285:19)
at onErrorNT (node:internal/child_process:485:16)
at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:83:21)

sour shadow
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It can't find the USB stick on the path you gave

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(assuming you gave it one)

mighty river
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I'm struggling with adding a new Zigbee EcoDim in Zigbee2MQTT. The device should be supported as far as I can see in code, however, in Z2M it states unsupported:
Zigbee2MQTT:warn 2023-08-06 20:01:11: Device '0x84b4dbfffe089fc4' with Zigbee model 'EcoDim-Zigbee 3.0' and manufacturer name 'EcoDim BV' is NOT supported, please follow https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/advanced/support-new-devices/01_support_new_devices.html
I have also changed from Zigbee2MQTT to Zigbee2MQTT Edge. The dimmer is right next to my Sonoff Zigbee Plus stick while pairing and 2 light bulbs connected to both of the dimmers.
Any idea on this how to debug or fix?
If I look in ecodim.js, there is code for this dimmer:

            { type: 'Router', manufacturerName: 'EcoDim BV', modelID: 'EcoDim-Zigbee 3.0' ```
pseudo rivet
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sour shadow
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The Z2M docs are also clear you should use the /dev/serial/by-id/ path

pseudo rivet
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/dev/serial/ttyUSB0 like this ?

sour shadow
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No

pseudo rivet
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sorry i dont get it

sour shadow
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Mine is

/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_slae.sh_cc2652rb_stick_-_slaesh_s_iot_stuff_00_12_4B_00_21_CB_F2_30-if00-port0
pseudo rivet
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/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0

blazing mango
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Spoke too soon. Every single Zigbee device in the house dropped from the network and refused to reconnect. I had to delete them all and re-add.

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And they all re-added with different entity IDs, so a ton of automations broke. Whee!

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So much for a clean radio migration

pseudo rivet
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is this normal ?

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the >-

carmine hamlet
rapid dawnBOT
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@pseudo rivet YAML is the mark up language used by Home Assistant, consistent indenting (two spaces per level) is key. Here is a primer, and this explains multi-line templates. For validating YAML see YAML Lint.

carmine hamlet
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Z2M remembers the device and you just need to permit join, factory reset, and it auto-rejoins

blazing mango
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Using ZHA. Never liked Z2M

sour shadow
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Mult-line is explained there

carmine hamlet
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literally nothing changes outside of that

pseudo rivet
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info  2023-08-06 19:19:13: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.32.2 (commit #unknown)
info  2023-08-06 19:19:13: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.17.2)
error 2023-08-06 19:19:13: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
error 2023-08-06 19:19:13: Failed to start zigbee
error 2023-08-06 19:19:13: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
error 2023-08-06 19:19:13: Exiting...
error 2023-08-06 19:19:13: Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT
    at Process.ChildProcess._handle.onexit (node:internal/child_process:285:19)
    at onErrorNT (node:internal/child_process:485:16)
    at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:83:21)
blazing mango
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I mean, cool, but I'm not using Z2M...

sour shadow
pseudo rivet
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yes

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im using the addon

blazing mango
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ZHA was pretty good about bringing Zigbee devices back with the same entity IDs, but at some point it started arbitrarily numbering zigbee devices rather than using the serial number in the entity ID, and everything went to hell.

pseudo rivet
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but it works with ZHA

sour shadow
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You have removed ZHA?

pseudo rivet
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yes

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im restarting HA

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not working

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any ideas @sour shadow

astral seal
sudden yarrow
# pseudo rivet any ideas <@332579266623438848>

Add adapter: ezsp to your serial port configuration. Should look like that:

  port: >-
    /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0
  adapter: ezsp```
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If it is the E-Dongle it uses the EZSP stack. Maybe yours is a E one and not a P.

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Just a shot in the blue - if that doesn't work, remove the adapter line.

carmine hamlet
pseudo rivet
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[20:44:34] INFO: Socat not enabled
[20:44:34] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT...
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-06 20:44:36: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-08-06.20-44-36' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-06 20:44:36: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.32.2 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-06 20:44:36: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.17.2)
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-06 20:44:36: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-06 20:44:36: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-06 20:44:36: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-06 20:44:36: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-06 20:44:36: Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT
    at Process.ChildProcess._handle.onexit (node:internal/child_process:285:19)
    at onErrorNT (node:internal/child_process:485:16)
    at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:83:21)```
finite quest
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is there a good consumer review place for zigbee stuff?

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looking for a presence detector to hook up to my yellow for automating a hallway

sour shadow
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Not really, or more accurately many, most of which disagree with each other

finite quest
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fair

sour shadow
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The Aqara, Linkind, Hue, and Develco sensors are all good

finite quest
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the whole xkcd standards comic

pseudo rivet
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info  2023-08-06 20:44:10: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-08-06.20-44-10' filename: log.txt
info  2023-08-06 20:44:10: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.32.2 (commit #unknown)
info  2023-08-06 20:44:10: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.17.2)
error 2023-08-06 20:44:10: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
error 2023-08-06 20:44:10: Failed to start zigbee
error 2023-08-06 20:44:10: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
error 2023-08-06 20:44:10: Exiting...
error 2023-08-06 20:44:10: Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT
    at Process.ChildProcess._handle.onexit (node:internal/child_process:285:19)
    at onErrorNT (node:internal/child_process:485:16)
    at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:83:21)
astral seal
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I've done OK so far. My stuff all works and my Zigbee network is extremely stable (knock on wood).

pseudo rivet
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enabled: false
master: pty,raw,echo=0,link=/tmp/ttyZ2M,mode=777
slave: tcp-listen:8485,keepalive,nodelay,reuseaddr,keepidle=1,keepintvl=1,keepcnt=5
options: "-d -d"
log: false
mqtt:
  server: mqtt://core-mosquitto
serial:
  port: >-
    /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0
  adapter: ezsp
pseudo rivet
sour shadow
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Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT
Still can't find the stick

pseudo rivet
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yes but the question is why

rapid dawnBOT
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@pseudo rivet I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

brave nacelle
#

so i plugged in the sengled smart switch i had the fans on, once i disabled and restarted the wifi AP downstairs and everything seemed to be working - just checked state history, automation's been successfully turning it off and on

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so i'm thinking the AP downstairs was on 1,6,11 and causing issues

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(it's about 15 feet from said plug)

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strange though, i set automation to run it every 6 minutes, for 2 minutes

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it was on for 2, off for 4, on for 2, etc.

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i guess i better set it to 8

sudden yarrow
blazing mango
#

The "Reconfigure" button does nothing on any of my devices, tried that.

astral seal
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Hit add device and then reset the problem device, it'll come right back and keep the same ID and all that stuff.

blazing mango
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Yeah, that wasn't doing the trick either, it would always add as a new device with _2 or _3 added to the end of the name

#

I'm hoping this is all a side effect of migrating to a new radio

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I migrated the existing network, which worked fine for about 12 hours, before suddenly losing connection to all Zigbee devices

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Nothing I did would get my existing Zigbee devices to reconnect after that drop happened.

astral seal
#

I guess deleting them and starting fresh was probably the best option in that case.

blazing mango
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Kinda pushes me back towards WiFi based devices, if I'm honest. I got a new radio specifically because Zigbee devices have never been all that stable, and I was hoping a proper Sonoff dongle would fix that.

#

Not a great start >_>

#

I'm just glad I'm still using a Hue hub. It would have been an absolute nightmare to re-pair every Hue bulb in the house if they were talking directly to HomeAssistant via Zigbee

astral seal
#

I mean a decent dongle should help. I've never migrated a radio so I couldn't say if what you experienced after the migration was remotely normal or not. I had a similar issue with several devices when I changed channels, but the only ones that needed a whole reset were my Sonoff sensors and my door lock.

warm fog
blazing mango
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Nah, that's a completely different issue

warm fog
blazing mango
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All my Zigbee devices suddenly went "unavailable" about 12 hours post-migration from an older Zigbee dongle to a newer one.

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And re-adding them added them back as completely new devices, which screwed up a bunch of things that depended on the old device and entity IDs

warm fog
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Oh, that's a pain. Yeah, nothing like my issue.

woeful urchin
#

Zigbee2mqtt question here, not sure if I should ask here or in #integrations-archived, but I'll start here.

I have this one IKEA Open/Close switch that wasn't working anymore and the battery was showing as low.
I replaced the battery, still didn't work.
I had Z2M listen for new devices and clicked × 4 the pairing button on the remote, this has worked with other devices before, still no love.
I removed the device via Z2M, and then re-paired it and gave it the same name as previously.
I can now see it's working in the Z2M logs, but the device in HA isn't working, only recent logbook entries are "became unknown".
I can see it publishing properly to mqtt.

How can I get this device back into HA?

brave nacelle
#

i'd just like to thank everyone for the suggestions and support over the past few days while i was trying to diagnose issues here with my HAOS setup. i appreciate you all for giving your time selflessly as you do.

wide temple
#

posted this in integregation but maybee better in here since it's connected to zigbee: hello, I have updated ha os and latest release, but now have some trouble with my integrations against deconz. I know that deconz is running and I can control the devices from the addon page. But in devices I got the error, Failed setup, will retry and none communication between HA and deconz. Could someone plz help me how solve this error. Tried to reload but not working.

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hm, the device has changed ip for some reason. 😕

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ignore, managed to solve it.

alpine cipher
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Hello all,

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I'm equiping my new appt with zigbee switches

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I don't know which to buy from the lights : Aqara H1 or LELLKI - suggestions or remarks ?

#

For the shutters and boiler, I'm thinking of Loratap - suggestions or comments ?

violet dagger
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aqara is a much better choice

alpine cipher
#

do you have experience with LELLKI ?

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these are 16A whereas Aqara is 8A

violet dagger
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random chinese brand 16A is closer to 8A in practice

main ruin
#

Does running zigbee hardware with ha require manual configuring stuff or will it just get picked up similar to how it would work within like the hue environment

sour shadow
#

Well, any integration needs some setup

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And you still have to actually pair all those devices

main ruin
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I thought about having to manually add all stuff in yaml compared to some rather simple ui clicking

sour shadow
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It's going to be mostly UI

main ruin
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Nice, thanks👍

celest drum
#

Looking for extending zigbee range. Can I use the Sonoff zigbee dongle to extend the range? if yes, then is it ok to just use a usb charger to power it up? or it has to be connected to some HA-aware device?

steady coyote
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Hello, I cannot get zigbee2mqtt work on unraid. I move my whole HA docker installation. I install eclipse-mosquitto and zigbee2mqtt. Unraid discover my usb zigbee coordinator as /dev/ttyUSB0. Logs shows:

Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 14:26:59: zigbee-herdsman started (resumed)
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 14:26:59: Coordinator firmware version: '{"meta":{"maintrel":1,"majorrel":2,"minorrel":7,"product":1,"revision":20210813,"transportrev":2},"type":"zStack3x0"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 14:26:59: Currently 0 devices are joined:
Zigbee2MQTT:warn  2023-08-07 14:26:59: `permit_join` set to  `true` in configuration.yaml.
Zigbee2MQTT:warn  2023-08-07 14:26:59: Allowing new devices to join.
Zigbee2MQTT:warn  2023-08-07 14:26:59: Set `permit_join` to `false` once you joined all devices.
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 14:26:59: Zigbee: allowing new devices to join.
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 14:26:59: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://192.168.0.208
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 14:26:59: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.0.208:1883
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 14:26:59: MQTT failed to connect, exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 14:26:59: Stopping zigbee-herdsman...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 14:27:00: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.0.208:1883
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 14:27:01: MQTT error: connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.0.208:1883
sour shadow
sour shadow
rapid dawnBOT
#

@steady coyote I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

steady coyote
#
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 14:37:07: If you wish to re-commission your network, please remove coordinator backup at /config/coordinator_backup.json.
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 14:37:07: Re-commissioning your network will require re-pairing of all devices!
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 14:37:07: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 14:37:07: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 14:37:07: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 14:37:07: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 14:37:07: Error: startup failed - configuration-adapter mismatch - see logs above for more information
    at ZnpAdapterManager.determineStrategy (/app/zigbee2mqtt/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/manager.ts:229:35)
    at ZnpAdapterManager.start (/app/zigbee2mqtt/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/manager.ts:63:26)
    at Controller.start (/app/zigbee2mqtt/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29)
    at Zigbee.start (/app/zigbee2mqtt/lib/zigbee.ts:59:27)
    at Controller.start (/app/zigbee2mqtt/lib/controller.ts:101:27)
    at start (/app/zigbee2mqtt/index.js:107:5)
knotty flint
#

I have a number of devices set up with the SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle. It works fine.

I was thinking of replacing it with the Nabu Casa Home Assistant SkyConnect, (Zigbee / Thread / Matter USB Stick) so I can add Matter support and save some usb ports.

Is there any way to lift and shift a Zigbee setup between devices or do I just need to bite the bullet and reset everything?

steady coyote
violet dagger
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either wrong credentials or your broker doesn't accept nonlocal connections

steady coyote
violet dagger
#

that could be part of your problem

steady coyote
sour shadow
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By adding the same credentials to mosquitto

rapid dawnBOT
#

@steady coyote I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

steady coyote
#

So I have to make configuration.yaml file my own and out in only:

#listener 1883
#protocol mqtt
#password_file /mosquitto/config/passwd
```?
sour shadow
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Lines starting with # are comments

steady coyote
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Yes I will delete them

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how that passwd file should look?

sour shadow
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My (Docker) config looks like

persistence true
persistence_location /mosquitto/data/

password_file /mosquitto/config/pwfile
allow_anonymous false

log_dest file /mosquitto/log/mosquitto.log

listener 1883
steady coyote
sour shadow
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Well, you can touch it from anywhere, but you need to create the contents with the commands, and that's easier done in the container

steady coyote
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Do You nkow how to set permissions to mosquitto because it shows always Error: Unable to open config file /mosquitto/config/mosquitto.conf.

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I set to owner: nobody and read/write for all

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When I start Mosquitto I cannot make passwd file because container is restarting. When I try when stopped I have error that is not running. In mosquitto logs I see error that theres no passwd file.

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Now I try allow_anonymous true and mosquitto is working but have problem with zigbee2mqtt:

Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 15:53:36: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.17.2)
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 15:53:36: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 15:53:36: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 15:53:36: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 15:53:36: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-08-07 15:53:36: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: No such file or directory, cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0'
    at SerialPort.<anonymous> (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/znp/znp.ts:146:28)
    at SerialPort._error (/app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:75:22)
    at /app/node_modules/@serialport/stream/dist/index.js:111:18
violet dagger
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you either used the wrong path or didn't pass through the usb device to the z2m container

steady coyote
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Do You know what can I do to make HA to see my zigbee devices from old server?

sour shadow
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What do you mean?

steady coyote
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all my devices in HA are marked with ?

rapid dawnBOT
#

@steady coyote I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

steady coyote
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don't discover any device:

Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 16:12:08: Zigbee: allowing new devices to join.
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 16:12:09: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://192.168.0.208:1883
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 16:12:09: Connected to MQTT server
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 16:12:09: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/state', payload 'online'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 16:12:09: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/state', payload 'online'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-08-07 16:12:09: Zigbee2MQTT started!
lime locust
#

having a blitzwolf power plug near(25cm) my cc2652 stick won't cause interference .. ?

violet dagger
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who knows, it can

split peak
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This past weekend I switched my zigbee network over from living on a Hubitat with HA as a frontend to using a SkyConnect with HA. I'm having a lot of issues with bulbs being unresponsive - I'm concerned that the channel the SkyConnect defaulted to is maybe getting interference from Wifi? How would I go about determining that?

molten linden
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When the network was created with HA (ZHA) it does a channel scan and forms the network on the best looking channel (out of 11,15,20,25 - I think) at that time. you can get it to run an energy scan and see the results when you download a diagnostics file from the zha config page.

split peak
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Seeing a whole ton of these: WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.cluster_handlers] [0x925F:1:0x0008]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>')]

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Any idea what that's that about?

steady coyote
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@sour shadow do You have any clue how to make it discover my devices?

steady coyote
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my sonoff bridge with tasmota work, also trough mqtt

pseudo relic
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Hi folks, going to do a bit of automating lights and HVAC in our makerspace but need to use zigbee wall switches. Does anyone have any suggestions?

rapid dawnBOT
#

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
pseudo relic
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In the US, not sure of the budget (this will slowly grow over months), Only really need on/off for lights

pseudo relic
sour shadow
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ISTR that the Inovelli Blues are the recommended one in the US

grim igloo
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Either relays or inovelli blue at $50 each are what id use

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Is there a reason they must be zigbee?

pseudo relic
grim igloo
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In general sonoff kinda is a bad word for zigbee

pseudo relic
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Not really, I could use ZWave, but most ZWave I have at home wants to run as ZigBee (has both ZWave and ZigBee in the device, weird).

grim igloo
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I personally prefer smart switches with the ability to do hold, long hold, multi tap, etc

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If you’re talking about the nortek dual stick it’s a piece of shit and should be replaced

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Oh the devices themselves have both radios?

#

I’ve never heard of that

pseudo relic
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This needs to operate like a normal switch

leaden nest
pseudo relic
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Dozens of folks will operate thes and they just need to turn on or off the lights. 🙂 And I need to turn them on/off remotely.

grim igloo
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Whether he uses multi tap etc is up to him they’ll work as ‘normal’ switches too

pseudo relic
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Rats, paddle. Love them at home, might run into problems in the building (Historical building).

grim igloo
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Then relay is probably your best bet but I wouldn’t go sonoff

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Shelly with Wi-Fi is probably the answer

pseudo relic
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Thanks, will take a look

grim igloo
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I’m not sure about specific models I’d ask in #hardware-archived and take a look at what digiblur has written up / his videos

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I think the Shelly pm1 is the new cool kid on the block?

pseudo relic
#

Very similar to the Sonoff devices (I'll try both).

toxic herald
#

Can anyone explain to me about the Zigbee mesh network and LQI in Zigbee2mqtt. Network map in Z2M shows lines (cordinator and unit) and dottet lines (units to units) but I would say sometime LQI is very low like 10, but it have a lot of devices and around it. So I would like to have a more detailed explaintion. Or someone have a link to a video or text I can read to really get it.

grim igloo
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It’s basically rssi rescaled in that case

leaden nest
toxic herald
grim igloo
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I.e. aqara

#

Their battery zigbee stuff is great

#

And athom is fine for wled and some other stuff but basically same with them too

leaden nest
#

is that purely a security concern, or do you not trust mains powered devices from china for safety reasons?

half cradle
grim igloo
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Well manufactured in china is fine if they are etl or ul certified for us. Otherwise no

pseudo relic
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I like the Sonoff Zigbee stick, using at home. Will use it in the makerspace also (ZigBee HVAC)

grim igloo
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Just not designed AND manufactured in china for mains

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It’s a personal opinion with sound logic backing it

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For us based light switches that don’t need smart bulbs too I suggest zooz zwave due to cost

leaden nest
#

I have designed electronics and had them manufactured in china, and have seen what goes on there, so I understand the concern

grim igloo
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Due to lack of options of zwave rgb/w lights I suggest not going zwave if you want both smart bulbs and smart switches (on the same circuit)

half cradle
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The tasmato switches you linked are cheap tuya. Might as well get the zigbee version.

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I have them. Wife hates how cheap they feel.

grim igloo
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How cheap what feel?

half cradle
#

The tasmato switches in the link above

grim igloo
half cradle
grim igloo
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Yea athom is just china with a us storefront and warehouse

half cradle
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I'd 100% buy a sonoff to put behind an existing before those. Speaking from experience and someone who bought the zigbee version

grim igloo
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I basically only suggest athom for non diy wled controllers and Bulbs

leaden nest
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I've been using the sonoff s31 wifi plugs for power monitoring stuff flashed with tasmota. I believe I read that those are going away and was figuring I'd switch to the athom smart plugs in the future if I needed more. What would you suggest as an alternative?

grim igloo
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I like and use sonoff s31 flashed to esphome

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I haven’t heard of them going away

#

I meant no mains directly to times china stuff above

leaden nest
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I (or whomever wrote what I'm remembering) could be mistaken. It may have been speculation that they would be replaced with the S40 which is either more difficult or impossible to flash with tasmota?

grim igloo
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Yeah I mistakenly bought and returned them initially lol

leaden nest
#

are they impossible to flash, or just way less convenient?

lyric timber
#

For some reason my zigbee bulbs are no longer working, but the motion sensors and door magnets are. They all appear online in my HA app. Using Conbee II integration and HASS docker container 2023.2.3

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Tried rebooting the container, host, and replugging the zigbee controller. Idk what to do next.

balmy fossil
#

Hi. Is it possible to replace a Sonoff Zigbee Coordinator with another one without need to re-pair all the devices? What about flashing a firmware, if i flash it with a new firmware will i need to repair everything?

lyric timber
grim igloo
#

30 second video demonstration

heady kayak
#

that's a really loud click

woeful urchin
#

Yeah, but the table is acting like the membrane from a drum.

hoary crest
#

are there any recommended usb extension cords? i seem to have some interference problems with my rpi4/usb ssd/usb electrolama zigbee dongle, already have a "normal" usb extension cord between the pi and the stick but all of a sudden i get interferences again it seems 😦

austere patio
#

What channel is your network occupying and what nearby WiFi networks do you have?

grim igloo
hoary crest
austere patio
#

No neighbors?

hoary crest
ashen bluff
trim niche
#

are there any in-wall zigbee outlets? do you recommend them? (i'm tired of my Kasa wifi ones)

austere patio
carmine hamlet
#

why oh why did they do that?

grim igloo
#

Sadistic tendencies of it professionals?

austere patio
#

The channels are different widths so they're just...different 😅

grim igloo
carmine hamlet
#

and start at....11. It's like somebody made a typo and for 1 they just went with it

half cradle
#

Probably what happened

grim igloo
#

Wonder if they go have beers with the guys who make up the usb standard names

austere patio
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Huh, apparently 1-10 are in the 900MHz range

grim igloo
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Usb 3.1 super speed

half cradle
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Interesting.

carmine hamlet
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weird

half cradle
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Maybe there was a plan or potential

carmine hamlet
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couldn't get international agreement, ala zwave

austere patio
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Lower frequency exists and is supported by a few dev kits (and more by the new ZigBee spec from a few months ago), I don't know of any devices that use it yet

half cradle
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Especially with thread coming (well so they say) planning for not as congested 2.4, makes sense

grim igloo
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Puddly how do you feel about extended pan id being considered not part of security for randomly being generated?

half cradle
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Like how we eventually got 5ghz wifi

grim igloo
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Is there a reason not to randomly generate it like you do with zha?

odd atlas
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hi, is there someone can help me with an Aqara E1 usb stick?

carmine hamlet
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Vs a recommended USB coordinator?

odd atlas
carmine hamlet
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Yes

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Why would you use that?

odd atlas
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i use it to control 5 zigbee devices

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until 5 days ago everything working fine

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but now the homekit device integration seems not recognize it anymore

brave nacelle
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any suggestion on placement for a TubesZB repeater/router?

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didn't realize it didn't come with a power block woops

ashen bluff
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That's like asking where to place a light. Wherever you need it. Usually no more than 8m/25ft (can vary) away from the coordinator or next router.
Any reason you use a dedicated coordinator rather than something actually useful that happens to be a router?

brave nacelle
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i don't know about zigbee as much as I'd like to be honest, and lately there was a serious enough issue that zigbee devices weren't responding. I went through all of the checks I could think of from a usb extension on the sonoff, swapping the alfa antenna on it for the stock antenna, moving devices closer, adding more main powered devices in case it was a signal issue and trying to change the wifi setup before I finally found the cause to be a secondary wifi router/AP downstairs near the devices that were having issues. I bought this as a preemptive attempt so that if those trials failed, I'd have another I could either rule out or use as a solution. Now that it's here, I'm not going to return it so I figured it would be best to just make use of it and enjoy the strengthened signal

ashen bluff
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I see. It's definitely more useful than lying in a drawer

brave nacelle
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yeah 🙂

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as far as placement, I figured too close to the coordinator would be kinda pointless considering i'm trying to make sure things at the other end of the house and on the first level get signal

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wasn't sure how that would work (hence the question)

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anyhow, i hope everyone is having a wonderful night. time to tend to some work here

grim igloo
fathom ingot
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So I've got aqara wireless double rocker switch, it works fine with ZHA but I've got another problem. Switch also automatically pairs via Zigbee with random Aqara smart plug in my household and it drives me crazy. Has anyone encountered a similar problem?

ancient hare
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Can anyone recomend any switches that will work with Zigbee direct and I'm in the Uk. Also will the bulbs I have also be ok or can you recommend bulbs too that are colour. I have at present AISIRER Alexa Smart Bulb WiFi Light Bulbs E27 Screw, 2 Pack, 10W 1000LM, App or Voice Control, 90W Dimmable White and RGBCW Colour Changing Light Bulb

sour shadow
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That bulb clearly says WiFi, it's not Zigbee

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For the best bulbs buy Hue, but Innr are good too

grim igloo
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ikea seem to be okay, just not great in terms of color/cri or expected to last as long as say, hue

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i cant justify hue rgbw prices so i just buy their white/ambiance

sour shadow
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The CCT bulbs are fine TBH

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I've heard the colour ones aren't

grim igloo
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of ikea?

sour shadow
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Aye

grim igloo
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good to know

sour shadow
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I've got a few of them and they're all "good enough", maybe not Hue levels of good, but certainly not as bad as some dumb LED bulbs I've bought

ancient hare
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I also got told Hue are no good on the RGB light either but I have never tested them as they are expensive to not get it righ like me 🙂

sour shadow
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They're expensive and good

ancient hare
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but do they work

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colour

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these bulb I have I was not on Home assistant back then so why Im trying now to get fully onto Zigbee with bulbs as well as switches so I know Im on even if there i sno servers!

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they work great on my setup now but I want the same setup but with Zigbee!

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yes I understand they are expensive why I want to be sure on the switches!

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they was not cheap but Im kind and will give away!

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🙂

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the zigbee switches do they have a Capitor in ceiling rose

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🤦🏻‍♂️ £84 for my coloyr setup 🤣 🥶 mindblown

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where do hue get there prices from?

sour shadow
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Don't connect smart bulbs to smart switches

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Cutting power stops them working

ancient hare
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i like it that way!

sour shadow
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Cutting power to Zigbee bulbs breaks your mesh, and all your Zigbee

ancient hare
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not my setup now does not stop them! but no good in emercencys for me

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can we not figure a way?

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like what I have now but a driver for it to work local

sour shadow
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Don't connect smart bulbs to smart switches
Cutting power stops them working
Cutting power to Zigbee bulbs breaks your mesh, and all your Zigbee

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If you want to do that, don't buy Zigbee bulbs, or track down some Sengled bulbs

ancient hare
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so will Hue do the same and not work

sour shadow
ancient hare
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yes in Zigbee

grim igloo
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Why can’t he bind them?

sour shadow
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Sure, but that's not cutting power

grim igloo
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Derp didn’t read up

sour shadow
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Click the link

ancient hare
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i can ask for likes on and off right now and colour on my stairs!

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but thsi will fail if server is down by Tuya

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what link?

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this setup I have great and not £84

sour shadow
ancient hare
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its not going to a link with me

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this switch does not cut power!

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why I like it

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so the bulbs still work and do not put them into pairing mode!

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i just canceled my order for a new single switch for upstairs now to see another way with Zigbee

astral lagoon
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someone help me with a flash on a SONOFF Zigbee Bridge Pro

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"Failed to initialize. Try resetting your device or holding the BOOT button while clicking INSTALL."

ancient hare
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would bringing in one of these at the back of my switch I already have setup work with Home Assistant? (Philips Hue wall switch module 2-pack)

sour shadow
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That would require HA to be always running to control your lights

ancient hare
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do you mean the Raspberry pi? which again is better as I do not leave pc on now. But it woudl work would it?

sour shadow
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Well, whatever you're running Home Assistant on

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That has to be always running for HA to work

ancient hare
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yes what Im doign now to keep things running i just no stairs setup right yet

sour shadow
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And the "switch" (it's a remote) will work, but with no brains behind it nothing will happen

ancient hare
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so will you not be able to turn lights on and off from the switch?

sour shadow
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Yes, but no

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Yes, with Home Assistant controlling the lights

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If HA isn't running then there's nothing to control the lights

ancient hare
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so then the switch would not work. so I will be down to fully relying on a raspberry pi for lighting and use a Tablet for a switch but will still be able to use the main switch at front door?

sour shadow
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Well, it's not a switch

ancient hare
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no i mean the switch I have at mo as i need one there for people who are unaware

sour shadow
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will still be able to use the main switch at front door
If that cuts the power to your smart bulb then ... yes, but when you cut the power you can't turn it on until you restore power

sour shadow
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However, what you're talking about will work, as long as Home Assistant is running

ancient hare
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and i will have colour lights too and my switch as I have now and this Philips Hue wall switch module 2 with two of there expensive bulbs at the back and I then need candles in case all fails.

sour shadow
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And you need to ensure you don't turn off the power to the smart bulbs

ancient hare
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how do i do that

sour shadow
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By not leaving them wired to switches

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(which may not be legal)

ancient hare
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this switch I have now keeps it on will that be ok

tardy zinc
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Is anyone here familiar with writing ZHA quirks? I have some bulbs that lie about their color temperature range. The actual range is 2700-6500K, but they lie and claim they support 2000-6500K. So if you ask them for 2700k, they give you some undefined color temperature between 2700k and 6500k.
All the stuff I can find about writing quirks is all about reassigning clusters or something, not about altering numeric values.

ancient hare
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oh you mean have the Philips Hue wall switch module 2 in and no switch at all?

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i was thinking leave the switch there

tardy zinc
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Sadly, these bulbs were the only ones I could find that (A) stated their PWM frequency and (B) had a PWM frequency high enough to not make me feel sick like Hue lights did.

dire owl
sour shadow
austere patio
hoary crest
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z2m says: "Zigbee channel, changing requires repairing all devices! (Note: use a ZLL channel: 11, 15, 20, or 25 to avoid Problems)" which i would really prefer not to repair every single device 😦

austere patio
tawny badge
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Hi all,

I need your help / advices,
i'm trying to pair a "https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/ZBMINIL2.html", compatible with my zigbee2mqtt version (1.32.2), i'm also running a mosquitto v 2.0.15 (we don't care, but i'm as well running a HA 2023.3.6 Frontend 20230309.1) - all containers, and are working fine, I have dozens of zigbee devices connected

But, when i'm connecting my new SonOff ZBMINIL2, putting it in pairing mode (press wifi button for 5sec, then green light blinking), and putting my zigbee2mqtt on "permit join all", nothing appear + no logs about a pairing failed (checked in hte frontend and zigbee2mqtt container logs), so my questions are :

Is this device compatible ?
Am i missing something ?
I think i wired it correctly, the switch behind the ZMINIL2 is working when turning on/off my hand the external interruptor, and when pushing the "wifi" button on the ZMINIL2 the switching is turning on/off successfully, it's really a connectivity issue in my mind

Any help / idea appreciated !

It's not an issue about signal, i've one other device at 50cm with perfect signal next to it

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Ok Sorry just connected !
It succeeded after 5-6 attempts and a long waiting

digital thunder
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Hey guys, a bit of an issue, my power has been out for 24 hours. When it came back, I had issues with my server (Which runs HA), I got it back up and running, and now none of my zigbee devices are reporting, they're all "unavailable." My zigbee dongle is working fine (I just added a new device just to see if it works). Will it take a while for the zigbee devices to all call home?

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Or do you think something else is wrong?

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Ah, seems I can force an update by pushing the button on whatever device I'm looking at. Do I have to do that for all of them, or will they fix themselves eventually?

astral seal
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You might have to "wake" the battery powered devices and power cycle mains powered stuff.
If that doesn't work, you might have to go through your devices, add device/permit join whatever in your integration, and then reset the devices (without removing them from HA).

digital thunder
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Gotcha

astral seal
digital thunder
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The mains powered devices still seem fine (all my switches for fans just work) but the battery powered devices do need woken up

astral seal
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Get any mains powered devices you have working first and then do the battery ones.

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Cool

digital thunder
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Yeah I was wondering if that would be an issue, since they act as hubs

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Is there anywhere I can go to see which devices are and are not reporting?

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Even the ones that don't send data occasionally? (Like dumb switches)

ashen bluff
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They might "re-join" the mesh within 24 hours on their own

digital thunder
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I'll leave one unfixed for now to see if it rejoins

patent geode
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I've got a bunch of Sengled bulbs, and they seem to work fine for the most part. My main complaint is that in the event of a power outage, they come on FULL BRIGHT WHITE when power is restored. What setting do I need to adjust to make them either NOT come on at all, or default to a pre-defined dim red instead of look-directly-at-the-sun white?

sour shadow
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Do they have a setting for power on state?

astral seal
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They should.

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I have a few but I only have white ones, those have an "onlevelconfiguration" setting so I assume their RGBCCT bulbs should also have appropriate settings for power on.

elfin dagger
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Hey all, I just got the hubitat c-7 to try with my kwikset 914 zigbee lock and Sonoff ZBMINI Extreme.

I was able to get the lock to work with HA but I noticed that theres a delay when locking/unlocking. And also the status doesn't change so after lets say unlocking it, I can't lock it because it thinks its already locked. I can control the lock from Hubitat GUI and lock/unlock works perfectly with almost no delay.

2nd issue I have is getting the Sonoff device in HA. I tried rebooting, going thru the work flow on adding hub back to HA and only shows the door lock but not the sonoff switch.

Zigbee/zwave/etc are new to me just started learning about them. Are these issues with Hubitat or something else?

ancient hare
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Im not not sure what to do about going for Hue Bulbs as I never really got a yes they wil work

high turtle
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Are people able to “update” Aqara door/window sensors in zigbee2mqtt with skyconnect? All my Aqara plugs, light switches, temp sensors, and motion sensors are able to check and receive any software updates but my door/window sensors don’t have that option for some reason

austere patio
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There's no newer firmware for older Aqara sensors

high turtle
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I am not saying there is constant updates, but everything I have bought from Aqara has needed an update from out of the box. My door/window sensors I have only been able to update using an old Aqara hub and then connect them to skyconnect and Z2M. Would be more convenient to be able to update through Z2M like all my other Aqara devices

austere patio
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Which door/window sensor? As far as I remember, there haven't been any at all for the old generation, maybe there is for newer one. If someone manages to reverse engineer the API and extract the update, you'll receive a notification in the future, when/if that happens

high turtle
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Model: MCCGQ11LM. Not a huge deal about the update, I was just curious since my other Aqara stuff was able to check/receive updates

austere patio
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Yeah, that's the old one. No OTA update for it that I'm aware of, nor did I receive any for it when I checked it with an Aqara gateway a year ago

ivory pike
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Are ledvance devices zigbee or tuya? Unclear to me since these products need to be integrated through smartthings ,which is tuya right? But on the ledvance website i read zigbee allot

astral seal
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Smartthings is Samsung's home automation platform. Supports Zigbee, zwave, a range of WiFi devices etc.
SmartLife is the Tuya app.
Ledvance makes WiFi and Zigbee bulbs. Looks like their WiFi stuff is Tuya, so you would use the Tuya SmartLife app rather than the ledvance app to get one of those devices online and integrate it with HA.

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It also looks like people have had a range of problems getting their stuff, both Zigbee and WiFi, to work properly in HA.

grim igloo
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Tldr forget whatever you learned everything mentioned is shit

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Smartthings, tuya, etc

astral seal
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Yeah ngl based on all the threads and issues I just skimmed I probably wouldn't buy any ledvance devices.

ancient hare
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is there anyway to install a normal lightstrip into a wall switch?

violet dagger
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what's a normal lightstrip?

fossil mountain
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I am still looking into getting a Bosch light/shutter control II (BMCT-SLZ) to work. It looks like it needs a quirk to set a manufacturer spec. cluster to set the mode (light vs. shutter). I started an issue at https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/2518 and would be happy if anyone could point me towards a similar quirk.

ancient hare
# violet dagger what's a normal lightstrip?

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violet dagger
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thats not normal at all

sour shadow
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It's also quite clearly not Zigbee... again

ancient hare
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Yes I see its not zigbee but how do i get the same setup as zigbee as this is bit also that was not the question was can i put a lightstrip onto a switch does not matter reall on teh type its getting from 24v to a 12v at the back of switch is it not?

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will Hue setup do it for me they seem to be hard to contact to ask them as they will just same Home Assistant is nothing to do with us

sour shadow
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A smart strip, or a dumb strip?

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A dumb strip just needs wiring to a suitable transformer, connected to your switch

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A smart strip just needs wiring to a suitable transformer, not connected to your switch. Your switch needs to be smart so that HA can control the strip.

ancient hare
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what can of transformer would we be looking at to do this in the switch. why i want to do this is shortage of plugs sockets to power them so I thought I have a double switch spare to add power from it to a strip light to start it off. o rto take outside as wiring would need to go through the walls!

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I have one now to go outside and looks terrible on the wires and needs to be more hidden and neater setup to a switch to supply power to it

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I think i need somthing that will take a 24 ac to a 12 2a

sour shadow
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You should consult an electrician

ancient hare
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I will give them a call see what they say

sour shadow
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Your questions about electricity suggest you don't have any idea what you're doing, and that's a great way of killing yourself/burning the house down

astral lagoon
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it is possible to have two zigbee antennas, I have faults on the other side of the house and the idea was to keep the one here with the ZHA and put a zb bridge on the other side

sour shadow
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Two coordinators means two separate meshes, and the second one managed by Zigbee2MQTT

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Also, the ZBBridge is terrible

astral lagoon
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yes that would be the idea.
I have Bridge P installed with the original version and I never had any problems. I'm going to test it with another flash to see what happens

ancient hare
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I understand the safeties of electric and can do great sparks if i want too 🙂 but like now Im finding out what I need too so its done in a safe way I have contacted an electrician now! thanks!

fossil mountain
fossil mountain
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on second thought it would probably be stupid to invest in a quirk without looking how well the device would work with the set attribute first 😄

elfin dagger
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Has anyone tried using Sonoff ZBMINIL2 extreme with HA? I'm using hubitat and it won't discover the smart switch but does pick up other devices

soft plover
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Hello, I want to migrate my Conbee II which runs passtrough (Proxmox HA os) zha to the new SkyConnect. Unfortunately the migration stops at the point where I have to manually enter the serial-path strangely enough
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Nabu_Casa_SkyConnect_v1.0_aa1684c8b75aed118560ef165820eef3-if00-port0

austere patio
soft plover
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it´s new

astral seal
elfin dagger
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No matter what I do, I can't get the sonoff to be visible on HA

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Ive tried rebooting HA, re-adding Hubitat to HA, etc

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I'm guessing uploading images on this discord has been disabled?

astral seal
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I don't know anything about hubitat, I use a Zigbee coordinator connected directly to HA.
Does the device at least pair to the hubitat machine?

astral seal
dire owl
rapid dawnBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

elfin dagger
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Yeah the device is paired on Hubitat and has no issue controlling.

astral seal
elfin dagger
astral seal
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Could not load post

elfin dagger
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hang on.

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try now

sour shadow
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If you were using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT this'd be the channel, the problem is with the Hubitat integration, which makes it an #integrations-archived problem

elfin dagger
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Ah okay. I just ordered a USB zigbee gateway so I can try using ZHA and skip the hubitat

sour shadow
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What did you order?

sour shadow
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Be warned the first of those is known to have some issues

elfin dagger
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the 2nd one arrives same day and the sonoff one deliveres on friday, thats why i ordered both lol

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Ohh, good thing I ordered both. Is there a known better brand then THIRDREALITY?

sour shadow
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I don't see what chip is in that, so hard to know

elfin dagger
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which chip should i look for?

sour shadow
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Well, for ZHA you'll almost certainly be fine regardless

elfin dagger
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Gotcha

astral seal
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Looks like that Sonoff is (allegedly) the Dongle-P so it should be fine.

sour shadow
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(assuming it's a good one, and that you don't hit the stability issues)

astral lagoon
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I am trying to add sonoff zb pro via wifi to Zigbee2MQTT but without success. Is there a video that can enlighten me?

digital thunder
sour shadow
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The CC2652 works with Zigbee2MQTT and ZHA, but has ... issues

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The other works well with ZHA and is expermental with Z2M, but isn't known to have issues

elfin dagger
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I'll order the ERF32MG21

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Is there another brand others are using?

astral seal
astral lagoon
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@astral seal
the idea is to put two zigbee networks, one I already have operational through zha and I wanted to create another one with zonoff zb pro

astral seal
astral seal
astral lagoon
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@astral seal
I have many sensors in which they only receive and cannot expand the signal, the idea was to put another network on the other side of the house. wrong idea?

astral seal
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Wrong idea. You should add more router devices and/or relocate your coordinator to a more central location.

elfin dagger
astral lagoon
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@astral sealdo you know any that are plug and play usb type. or something else simple and small, because I don't feel the need or have space to put more equipment.

astral seal
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Router devices? Those are just going to be Zigbee smart plugs and most bulbs other than Sengled. Most mains powered Zigbee devices are routers that extend and support your mesh.

austere patio
# soft plover it´s new

Make sure you have USB/serial passthrough correctly configured. The errors you're seeing make it seem like HA isn't able to communicate with the stick despite seeing the stick, which happens when passthrough doesn't work, especially with Proxmox.

tiny hollow
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Hey guys, do you know about any cheap recommended Zigbee coordinator ?

astral lagoon
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@astral sealI have dozens of sonoff and tuya equipment assembled and none with zigbee MiniR4 / S20 / Basic / R3 etc

soft plover
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ConBee II (1cf1:0030)

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But why does the completely untouched system no longer work when I plug the conbee 2 back into it... or not when I restore a proxmox backup prior to the action

astral seal
austere patio
astral lagoon
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@astral sealthat's right, the problem is that between switches, systems, outlets, sensors, etc. there are almost 200 pieces of equipment.
I've seen it once, a small pen that looks like a pendrive just to expand the network and I can even put it behind the TVs discreetly. so I keep the wifi network that I can't complain that it works perfectly, but I'm adding new zigbee. the model Sonoff S26R2ZBTPF
I believe it is a way to expand the correct mesh

soft plover
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I don´t understand it - why on a other system too? Is it now a problem with conbee stick

austere patio
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Migrating to a new radio requires resetting the old one

soft plover
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The conbee stick itself?

austere patio
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So if you got halfway through the migration, your Conbee was reset. You'll have to restore a ZHA backup to write back the correct network settings if you want to use it again.

soft plover
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oh no

austere patio
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Go through the migration flow again but select "re-configure current radio", it'll offer you some automatic backups to restore

soft plover
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i relied on the autobackup because i forgot to press the download button beforehand

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ok

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i test it
But I think that I can forget the configuration thenBut I think that I can forget the configuration then

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I think I have to re-learn all zigbee devices with the SkyConnect now

austere patio
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No, the migration fully supports both devices

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What backups are you able to restore? You may have two: one with your actual network, and one with the reset Conbee's auto-formed network

soft plover
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The only problem I have is that I have restored a previous Proxmox backup

austere patio
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ZHA takes automatic backups every time you start so it will still have your old network settings, you just have to restore them. They're stored on the stick itself and won't be restored if you restore a block-level backup.

soft plover
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ok i hope so much

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ok i found a old auto backup from yesterday ... reboot now and hope

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It´s fine
Thanks so much @austere patio
But how do I proceed correctly with the migration? Do I have to connect the conbee and the skyconnect to the proxmox at the same time?But how do I proceed correctly with the migration? Do I have to connect the conbee and the skyconnect to the proxmox at the same time?

heady phoenix
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Morning, so just ran a scan using zigpy of the radio and looks like to me that channel 24 is probably the best channel? and given I have a bunch of devices already on the network at channel 11, i'll just have to re-sync them right?

for reference, 11 is 25.65%, 24 is 15.53% and everything else is > 30%

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channel 15 is 51.29%, 20 is 46.35% and 25 is 25.88% fwiw

austere patio
heady phoenix
austere patio
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The percentage indicates how much raw "noise" there is on the channel, it can't distinguish between environmental noise (WiFi, motors, etc.), and actual signal from your real network (routing devices just periodically communicating)

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25% is quite low, especially if you may have nearby routing devices. I wouldn't worry about it. If you're using ZHA you can use the auto channel migration feature to move to a new channel and not lose many (or any) devices, but it will likely just stick with 11

heady phoenix
sour shadow
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Hey guys do you know about any cheap

ancient hare
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if I have setup with a ZHA with Sonoff and things seem ok but you want to also use MQTT for things what going to be the best options to try to follow or do

sour shadow
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You would need to buy a second coordinator and set up a second mesh.

That is a Bad Idea ™️

ancient hare
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would it be good practice to do this and if there any info on the setup for it. thanks!

sour shadow
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would it be good practice to do this
blobcsignwtf

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You clearly aren't actually reading

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Good luck

austere patio
hexed cipher
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hi there. my zigbee integration broke a few days ago. getting this in the logs, anyone know how to fic that?
device reports readiness to read but returned no data

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not aware of anything using that serial port

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and checked theres no tty service running on it

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using znp

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TI CC2531

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hmm, so after a bunch of attemts at setting it up again it works

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so it seems sometimes i can get through but even if i manage to set it up i still get that error afterwards

hexed cipher
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must have misstyped when i checked if the service was running

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still doenst explain why systemd suddenly started ignoring my override file

tardy socket
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im going insane. nothing is connecting to Z2M. Ive tried EVERYTHING nothing will connect. Hue remote, awuara zigbee sensor nothing will even show up in the log i bought a sonoff zigbee antenna and its all properly connected, away from other stuff, and its still not working

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Im trying to pair them right next to the stick too and nothing.

ashen bluff
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Is Z2M pairing enabled? Did you check for interference?

tardy socket
ashen bluff
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What coordinator do you use? Which firmware?

tardy socket
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SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ZBDongle-P

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ill try updating firmware

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rn its just whatever came with it

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still nothing

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im so sick of this every other tutorial ive watched it just works and i have no idea what im doing wrong :)

carmine hamlet
royal sparrow
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Finally adding zigbee and want to know if the sonoff 3.0 plus comes flashed with latest firmware? Is it easy to know?

pulsar skiff
tough cypress
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Hi, i'm new to Zigbee and i have a little problem, my house isn't fully covered by the main antenna on my home assistant server and i bought a second sonoff efr32mg21 in order to put the rooter firmware on it, i didn't receive it yet, but i just have a question, how do i connect the router to the main server ?

violet dagger
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you pair it to the coordinator just like any other device

tough cypress
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Ho okay thank you ❤️

grim igloo
tough cypress
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I know that zigbee is mesh based but for the moment i just need to connect 2 smart object and don't wan't to spend like 200 bucks to replace all of my working setup ^^'

grim igloo
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Not great

tough cypress
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I know but until i've got enought money to replace all the stuff i got it will be enought

violet dagger
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there's nothing wrong with adding a dedicated router device, I run two USB powered myself

tough cypress
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I don't know much, but may be adding a dedicated router will perform better than a integrated one in a device ?

violet dagger
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depends on the chips and antennae used in both

tough cypress
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I see

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thank for the info 😉

violet dagger
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and also firmware

smoky trout
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I have an aqara vibration/tilt sensor and I am hoping to use it to let me know when I've left my garage door open. the current functionality of the device registers basically that the sensor is or isn't moving rather that it is tilted one direction or the other. the tilt functionality seems to be a bit buried, and is available through zha_events. I'm wondering if I somehow need to create a binary sensor that flips on/off based on the tilt degrees reported by the event - assumging that is possible? I'm very new to HA

sour shadow
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You could use a trigger based template sensor

rapid dawnBOT
smoky trout
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thanks I'll take a look

lofty junco
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Hey 🙂 I just bought a "Philip Hue Gradient Signe" lamp and connected it to my HA. Is there any way to control the different light-segments in HA? I know that, technically, the lamp supports this (can be also seen in images and videos) but i haven't found a way to control the segments each by HA :/

dire owl
mighty river
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Hi guys. I'm trying to initialize the configuration of my SkyConnect stick in ZHA, but I always get the error message "Error while testing the USB device"
HA ist installed on a Raspi4 4GB, its all up-to-date. I already restarted HA several times, but its not working....
Can someone please help me?

austere patio
paper gale
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what's that? some error from mqtt?(pic didn't follow 🙃)

mighty river
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Yes, I'm using the HA OS for the Raspberry Pi. The SkyConnect stick is new, I've never used it before, but a CC2531 stick.
In the meantime I've flashed the SkyConnect stick over https://skyconnect.home-assistant.io/firmware-update/
I think this is actually working, because I don't get the error message from above anymore! I was able to finish the configuration process, and HA also gave me the option to restore from an automatic ZHA backup during the process. I'm now waiting a few minutes, until the devices come back to life.... Hope this will work!

acoustic berry
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I just broke my ZHA integration. Hopefully restoring a back-up will help? Will have to try tomorrow.

If not; should I use this opportunity to switch to Z2M? I am new to MQTT, but since I pre-ordered the MQTT Button+ panel, this might be a good starting point to learn?

acoustic berry
# austere patio What did you break?

I do not know to be honest. I used my Conbee stick in a different HA instance which I use to test things. When I put it back in my live HA environment and booted it up, it became unable to communicate to my known devices. Though I can add new devices.

austere patio
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What is this other HA instance running? ZHA?

acoustic berry
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I was trying Z2M actually for the first time.

austere patio
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Z2M overwrites the network settings of any coordinator it starts up with, your Conbee's old network was erased. What you can do to restore is click the "migrate radio" button in ZHA's configuration page and then select "re-configure current radio". Once you get to the page that asks which backup to restore, find the second most recent one, which will be your old network.

mighty river
austere patio
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MAC_CHANNEL_ACCESS_FAILURE indicates that your coordinator (Conbee?) is experiencing interference and is refusing to transmit data

austere patio
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You need to put it on a USB extension cable and move it away from sources of interference, such as USB 3.0 devices and ports, SSDs, WiFi routers, etc.

hoary crest
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30cm usb cable was enough ^^

mighty river
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I have an extension and am at least 50cm away from any other devices, but let me experiment with the actual placement. Thanks for the explanation @austere patio

acoustic berry
austere patio
mighty river
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Good to know, thx. I moved some stuff around and closed the door to my rack and I'm now back in business 😎

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Going to disable the wifi on the RPI4 as well... I wonder if that will affect the BT Adapter too? Not that I'm using it for anything yet though.

hasty lotus
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Morning, I updated on Osram light bulb using OTA a couple of weeks ago and it upgraded to the latest image however, when the light is turned on it seems to go through a cycle of upgrading again. I have not enabled auto-upgrade for all bulbs of this type, I manually triggered the upgrade through the developer interface. Do I need to tell the light that the upgrade is completed successfully of should it do this automatically? - Using ZHA with a Conbee2

lucid sparrow
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I'm using TRADFRI bulb GU10 CWS 345lm, with ZHA, and I've checked that they're running the latest firmware. The colour temp range seems to be incorrect? I can either have warm light or slightly less warm light. No cool option. When the light first pairs and it doesn't have its full config settings, it allows you to set a cool setting. The colour temp range for my ewelink lights are 142 to 500, and for these TRADFRI bulbs its 250 to 454.

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I've tried overwriting the color_temp_physical_min/max settings.. but they seem read only, and it doesn't appear to allow you to write a setting outside that range.

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as a workaround I can set the light to white in RGB mode, but then it doesn't seem as bright 🤔

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tbh im tempted to take them back because I got 4 of them, they're $25 AUD each, and i feel some doubts as to whether this is fixable

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another option is to try the $99 AUD ikea gateway, and see if that allows me to set a cool colour, and maybe sniff what its doing to try and resolve the issue?

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The ewelink lights I got from china for about $8 aud, don't have this problem, but they're not quite as bright.

lucid sparrow
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perhaps one option is to create a quirk file for the device similar to this?

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to allow colour temp override for this device

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according to ikeas spec page, it supports 1780K to 4000K

lucid sparrow
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🤦‍♂️

austere patio
lucid sparrow
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yeah i just kind of realised after doing some maths, apparently those bulbs just aren't very good.. thats not a wide white range, they're not as bright as I would like

austere patio
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You can try changing the limits with a quirk but I doubt the firmware would let you actually set a color temperature outside of this

lucid sparrow
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apparently its a single RGB W not RGB CC (i dont pretend to understand the differences)

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but that would explain why you can have warm, or slightly less warm.. and not cool, which is obviously what I'm after

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i would need 5 or 6k for that presumably

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but I still feel the 4k setting should be a bit whiter, im not sure 🤔

molten linden
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for Zigbee2Mqtt use always get a CC2652 based radio, it will just work better. if using ZHA either will work fine.

quiet marsh
mellow geode
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It’s not supported at the moment

jolly plank
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I got a couple of devices, that have worked before with Zigbee2mqtt. Now i migrated from docker to hass.io and two out of six devices so far are shown as "not supported".

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Unsupported

molten linden
jolly plank
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what should be the current version?

jolly plank
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That was it

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now i have a failed interview with some other devices

molten linden
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the one I linked is current

jolly plank
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thx for that but now i have some "failed interview" errors with some devices. Anyone any idea?

short sandal
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Is migrating an HA install with a USB zigbee radio to new hardware likely to be a painful exercise? Docker currently, will be Docker on the new hardware (both running Debian Linux)

sour shadow
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If you're moving the stick it'll be painless

short sandal
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Excellent. Thanks very much. Can move the install of my fileserver and onto a 8W PC engines mini PC.

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Debian: 30 years old on Wednesday. RIP Ian Murdoch. We have much to be thankful for.

ancient hare
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you will be aware I have changed over to a different switch and all was fine first day but on day too the button do not work on the switch think this is due to be taking it out of Smartlife and just using HA but until I have some some help on it I no clue or the switch as got a fault on it and needs returning? works fine in Home Assistant only! I can't even put it into a pairing mode either now

sour shadow
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You know we need details to be able to help you

ancient hare
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why id rather inbox so i dotn have to keep repeating myself on things!

rapid dawnBOT
sour shadow
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That may be better then

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Or start a thread here

ancient hare
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ok bare with me learning how to do a tread! on here thanks

sour shadow
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on the right, when you hover over a post

ancient hare
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it maybe a little long to add to a tread so I added it to the Community Forum so I can try to explain more on it and work from that! thanks!

lucid sparrow
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i used to not be able to connect to my zigbee light switch out in the garage directly (the closest point to my house), so I bought a hub for it

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but my mesh is strong enough now that it detects and works.. so im adding the devices in the garage via that switch.. that's a win 👍

lucid sparrow
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this isn't HA as such its a bit cheeky, but im using the sonoff integration for that hub.. and because the devices are offline, I can't remove them 🤦‍♂️

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so now i have duplicate sensors that are offline that I can't remove

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hiding them is a trashy solution

lucid sparrow
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and the connection is dropping out so I spoke too soon 😂

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now i wont be able to remove the zigbee devices from home assistant probably

lucid sparrow
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got it sorted, you delete the hub/gateway the devices are attached to

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no preview.. no title.. awkward.. its titled "ZigBee professional" and it shows off my high tech mounting solution

tiny hollow
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Does anyone with experience with Zigbee devices know approximately how long the battery life of a door sensor can last? thanks in advance

grim igloo
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depends on the device

lucid sparrow
astral seal
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Command strips also work pretty well. That's how I mounted mine.

blazing mango
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Slightly weird request, but anyone know of a Zigbee sensor that can reliably read ambient temperature and humidity above 55c?

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I have a filament dryer I'm trying to monitor, and the 55c max temperature of most sensors isn't cutting it

hybrid kestrel
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hello. i've been getting some weird unexpected state changes of the zigbee fingerbot that I am using with ZHA. The adaprox fingerbot is recognized as a switch by ZHA, which is fine by me as I use it to control my old VRV AC system's wall remotes with it and when the AC is on, the switch is ON combo works for me.

However, I have noticed that if an automation sends the turn on command to the fingerbot when it's in ON state in HA, the fingerbot activates and presses the button again, changing the state of my AC to OFF however in HA the state of the fingerbot remains in ON state. I can replicate this issue easily by assigning a TURN ON command to one of my IKEA remotes and pushing it always makes the fingerbot physically press but no log entry gets added to the device logs and device stays in the same condition.

Is this HA or ZHA related, because I don't think that ZHA should send any message to a switch when the expected state and current state are the same. Thanks.

hybrid kestrel
blazing mango
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I've honestly never been able to get ESPHome to work properly. If I'm making my own it'll be an ESP8266 running Tasmota on Wifi. lol

jolly plank
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Hey, i got a couple of failed interviews with some light bulbs.

  • They worked before when i used Z2M on Docker with the same hardware.
  • Now on hass.io with Z2M they don´t
  • They are all from the same manufacturer
  • ONE of the same Manufacturer did pair
  • I tried using an extension cord
  • I tried pairing with <1m Distance to the coordinator
  • I tried using a different light bulb as the pairing router
  • I tried the one bulb that did pair as the pairing router
frigid dune
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Unable to connect Aqara Curtain Driver E1 to ZHA

jolly plank
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Müller Licht

hasty lotus
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Okay, these are Tuya Zigbee lights. Did you reset them to get them to readd to the network?

jolly plank
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If by reset you mean switch them on and off untill they start flashing colors, yes. I don´t know of any other method of reseting

bold plume
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Does anyone have a link for the "Sonoff zigbee 3.0 Plus type E" firmware with support up to 100+ devices.

chilly widget
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Hello, a question if anyone might be able to answer me.
I’m currently using Zigbee2MQTT with a dongle which isn’t even recommended anymore (was the original one) and am now thinking of replacing it as well as to move my HA instance into docker (making a kubernetes cluster)
Did anyone try both zigbee2mqtt and the one that is in built into HA now any recommendations as to which one I should go with further?
I tried finding info as for what devices etc. are supported on the HA one, however, couldn’t find anything.
Does there exist a hub that can be connected with either HA or Zigbee2MQTT which works over LAN the host location isn’t practical and would prefer to have the Hub somewhere else if possible.

violet dagger
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yes, there are a few ethernet coordinators available

mellow geode
bold plume
sour shadow
sour shadow
chilly widget
# sour shadow 1. If you're happy stay with Z2M and buy somethng CC2652 based (just not the Son...

The HA add on has been working more or less without issues so I’m good, since they added an interface it became even easier.
Right now I think I’m using the CC2531 dongle although back then there were no alternatives.
I’ll check the supported ones and see what options they have. A while ago I remember seeing somewhere on GitHub that they managed to get Z2M onto xiaomi gateway 3 if anyone has tried that although I figure not official still, seems like a possible alternative to me to for possible wireless option

sour shadow
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Zigbee + WiFi == pain

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Use wired, not WiFi

chilly widget
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Personally I prefer to avoid using Wi-Fi whenever possible although sadly old building so my options are limited. Will see what’s possible when o get to it otherwise I guess will just have to use some extenders to cover the blind spots.

calm shell
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Apologies if this is not the right channel, I just found the link to this discord from home assistant reddit pages.

We have renovating my mother in laws house later this year to hopefully move in later km the year or possibly early next year.

I would like but door/window sensors o.n the ground floor. This is a mix for security, knowing that our toddlers are safe and also just for the fun of it.

From what I have read I think using zigbee v3 devices os the way forward to try and keep the traffic as local as possible without data getting sent anywhere and to reduce lag times.

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I was did get a USB dongle a while back with the hope to get this working with raspberry pi but not sure of the dongle is not working rhe way it should or my lack of Linux knowledge is hampering me.

Anyway, I assume I need to get devices that are zigbee compatible and buy some hubs to for integration?

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As a lot of work is being done to the place, I'll be looking at using cabling where it makes sense

austere patio
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If you have a Zigbee USB stick, you don't need a hub. Plug it in and HA will (probably) auto detect it.

calm shell
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Perhaps hub is not the right word....extenders?

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Do I need hubs if I am using devices that use zigbee?

carmine hamlet
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"routers"

sour shadow
mint salmon
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Does anyone know if there are ways to add or create effects to lights? So far all my lights have no effects except where they have colour modes, in which case I have the option of “colour loop” and nothing else.
I’ve been a little spoilt I suppose with esphome that offers pulse and flicker out of the box without any additional configuration needed 😅

sour shadow
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No, effects are a hardware thing

frozen cosmos
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i'm hoping someone can help me with some troubleshooting? Every now and then a zigbee device on my network (I don't think it's been the same device twice), just partially drops off the network - popping back on regularly, and disappearing again.

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i do my usual chaotic troubleshooting, which usually ends up with removing and re-pairing. But i don't even know what to google to see if there's a regular solution!!

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I'm using Deconz, and my network is fairly solid otherwise

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does this sound familiar to anyone?

violet dagger
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Any device or a specific one with a name and model ?

frozen cosmos
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most of my bulbs are Hue

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the one i'm having an issue with at the moment is "LWB010 by Philips - Connected via Phoscon-GW - Firmware: 1.50.2_r30933"

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unavailble for 30 minutes, then online for 2 minutes..... repeat, repeat, repeat 😦

mellow geode
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There are updates in the zigbee-ota repo

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You should be able install them with your deCONZ stick

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May or may not solve your issue

mellow geode
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Otherwise, what firmware version are you running on your Conbee?

silk lodge
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Im trying to bind my Paulmann 500.67 remote to my Paulmann Amaris LIght Panel, the bind works, but the remote doesnt control the light.

First i unbound all existing binds in the UI, for both the remote and light. Sending a Mqtt Command to zigbee2mqtt/bridge/request/device/bind, with payload {"from": "Fernbedienung Paulmann Gästezimmer", "to": "Licht Büro Decke"} adds binds back to the remote and light.

Binds for the remote:
LevelCtrl OnOff Scenes LColorCtrl to the Light.

Light:
LevelCtrl OnOff LColorCtrl to the Coordinator.

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In the Logs, the Remote sends commands with GroupID 1.

split vault
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I ordered one of the tubeszb POE zigbee coordinators.. I'm migrating from a Conbee II. I have a backup from the Conbee II, and when i try to apply it to the tubeszb, I get "Unknown error occurred" 😦

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I guess I'm gonna have to reset up all of my zigbee devices... I dunno 😦

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I tried restoring back to the conbee II, and when I do that, some stuff comes back but some device are missing, and most all the entities and devices have new names

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so none of my automations are right

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no matter what it feels like I need to start over

split vault
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I wonder if this is a good time to switch to a mqtt setup

split vault
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damn, this is a mess 😦

crude nova
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Is it normal for OTA firmware updates to take a couple of hours? I kicked off a firmware update for a switch I just installed and it's saying that it'll be over 2 hours.

mellow geode
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yep

crude nova
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sheesh. OK!

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I didn't remember any of the other switches taking this long. lol

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Will it still function during the update? I just installed it in a bathroom, it's about to get dark.

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i'm on the other side of the house now.

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duh... I can turn it on remotely now.

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Hahah

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Yeah, it still works.

mellow geode
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yeah, it's only "downloading" the update for now. The actual "installing"/rebooting part is relatively quick

austere patio
ashen coral
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Dude. Don't do that.

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Mod is for emergencies

sour shadow
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I've never heard of a community where tagging mods to demand attention was a good thing @boreal moon - maybe you could enlighten us where you learned that?

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I can't give you the log right now because I can't get them right now
Then... why the bleep did you demand our attention? Why not simply post when you have the logs?

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Bonus points for tag and run

sour shadow
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On the up side you weren't daft enough to (try to) tag everybody...

jolly plank
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I am buffled...
I just flashed a fresh hass.io and restored a backup
Now all of my zigbee devices work and i can use my automations. But the "addon" section tells me the plugin is not running an i can´t open the Z2M frontend... help?

sour shadow
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You were using Z2M before, and not ZHA?

jolly plank
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correct

sour shadow
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Reboot?

jolly plank
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Did that twice already and restored the backup twice

sour shadow
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And the Devices show as connected via Z2M?

jolly plank
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they show as connected via mqtt
mosquitto ALSO seems to be not running but again i can use my devices...

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and non of the addons seem to start according to the interface

sour shadow
jolly plank
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ah didn´t see that channel thx

jolly plank
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Okay, i resolved that issue and can now come back to my original problem: I use Zigbee2mqtt. I got 45 Zigbbe devices that pair with no problems and three bulbs that keep failing the interview. They are all from the same manufacturer (Müller Licht) and ONE bulb from the same type as two of the troublemaker will not pair. They all did when i used Zigbee2mqtt on Docker. Now they fail. Could there be a problem with the channel? I picked channel 14 because of ma neighburs wifi but now i read "(Note: use a ZLL channel: 11, 15, 20, or 25 to avoid Problems)" in the zigbee2mqtt configuration. I can´t change the channel easy as that was the cause of my other problem today.

tardy zinc
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When I get "unknown error occurred" messages, it's sometimes actually caused by a "too much interference" error.

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If you open the setttings -> system -> logs, it should hopefully show something.

royal sparrow
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Successfully ported all my zigbee devices over from my hubitat hub. All compatible with zigbee2mqtt. Zwave is next. I didn't do any fw update but guess since it all works there's no point to?

jolly plank
# tardy zinc If you open the setttings -> system -> logs, it should hopefully show something.

Logger: async_upnp_client.ssdp
Source: runner.py:179
First occurred: 20:38:37 (132 occurrences)
Last logged: 21:11:10

Received error: [Errno 19] No such device, transport: <_SelectorDatagramTransport fd=51 read=polling write=<idle, bufsize=0>>, socket: <asyncio.TransportSocket fd=51, family=2, type=2, proto=0, laddr=('0.0.0.0', 52109)>
Received error: [Errno 101] Network unreachable, transport: <_SelectorDatagramTransport fd=54 read=polling write=<idle, bufsize=0>>, socket: <asyncio.TransportSocket fd=54, family=10, type=2, proto=0, laddr=('::', 50735, 0, 0)>

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no idea what to make of it

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also this:

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Logger: async_upnp_client.ssdp
Source: components/ssdp/init.py:365
First occurred: 20:38:38 (34 occurrences)
Last logged: 21:10:38

Received error: [Errno 19] No such device, transport: <_SelectorDatagramTransport fd=28 read=polling write=<idle, bufsize=0>>, socket: <asyncio.TransportSocket fd=28, family=2, type=2, proto=0, laddr=('0.0.0.0', 49152)>
Received error: [Errno 101] Network unreachable, transport: <_SelectorDatagramTransport fd=29 read=polling write=<idle, bufsize=0>>, socket: <asyncio.TransportSocket fd=29, family=10, type=2, proto=0, laddr=('::', 46109, 0, 0)>

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and something about a template

frozen cosmos
tardy zinc
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I tried Z2M, but I always end up going back to ZHA because Z2M buries the power usage sensors on my smart plugs in diagnostic sensors instead of showing it as a regular sensor.

carmine hamlet
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I'm again amazed at how slick and easy Zigbee is compared to ZWave and Insteon. I added a lot of Inovelli Blue switches today and adding the majority of them was as simple as hitting "Permit Join" in Z2M. Most just joined automatically, and for a handful I only had to pull the airgap and stick it back in. Binding for n-way switches or to control a plug is trivial, And it's fast, like hardwired fast. Having gone through the others, this is the future (upgradeable to Thread if and when that makes sense, too)

half cradle
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Binding is fantastic. I will say inovelli red zwave and most zwave are pretty easy too, just scan a qr code. But Z2m binding is so painless.

jolly plank
violet wave
river scarab
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In ZHA, is there a way to make a device not connect via a repeater but direct to the coordinator? I've got a Sonoff SNZB-02D temperature sensor that won't update automatically unless (it appears) it's connected directly to the coordinator.

molten linden
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you can pick the coordinator and join it directly to it, but you can't control whether it moves to a different parent after joining.

river scarab
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Ahh well, will have to use a different one

austere patio
river scarab
austere patio
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Yes. Devices stay "connected" to the router (or coordinator) they originally joined through. If you move it around but the connection is still there (even if it is weak or unreliable), the device won't waste power re-joining. You should join the device where it will end up sitting.

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Just click the "add device" button to open joins and then reset the sensor, you don't have to delete the device

river scarab
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Odd, according to the mesh map, it's connected to a repeater in the same room, not the coordinator. But I'll give it a go

austere patio
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The map is probably accurate. What router is it connecting through?

river scarab
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It's going through a Lidl smart power socket, which is only about 6 feet away from it